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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone.

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Speaker 2: It is the Local Toy Dealers KSR postgame show. Kats

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Speaker 2: lose a heartbreaker in Baton Rouge on a last second

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Speaker 2: shot that makes what would have been an exciting win

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Speaker 2: end up a very disappointing loss. You can give a

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Speaker 2: shout a five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: You know what do you say? That's a that's a

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Speaker 1: brutal loss.

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Speaker 2: One that uh, that is gonna It's gonna hurt Kentucky

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Speaker 2: come the seed line. Not so much because of tonight,

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Speaker 2: but because you've now lost a number of these kind

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Speaker 2: of games over the course of the season, and our

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Speaker 2: dreams of Cavin having a top four seed are are probably,

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Speaker 2: if not gone, they're on live support. And you know,

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Speaker 2: it looks more and more like Kentucky's back to not

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Speaker 2: having a double by in the SEC tournament and maybe Bit's.

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Speaker 1: More frustratingly back to losing.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, I watched the game at KS bar with

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Speaker 2: Ryan and Drew. We had a packed house. The fan base,

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Speaker 2: this fan base wants to wants this team to be

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Speaker 2: good so bad. This fan base loves this team so

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Speaker 2: much and wants them to be good so bad. And

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Speaker 2: that's why it is so frustrating to watch them lose

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Speaker 2: these games. You know, you had two really special performances, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Antonio Reeves had twenty five points in like, you know,

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Speaker 2: twenty four minutes and was great, scored his thousandth point

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Speaker 2: at Kentucky. And then the last ten minutes for Rob Dilleham,

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Speaker 2: he had twenty one and was just absolutely special. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was amazing in the last ten minutes. So you

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Speaker 2: have these two singularly really great performances, and yet you

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Speaker 2: still lose. And I feel like that's sort of been

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Speaker 2: emblematic of this season, which is you got these plays

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Speaker 2: that everybody likes, and you got this talent that is

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Speaker 2: like other worldly talent in some ways, and yet you

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Speaker 2: go lose to a five hundred team that probably missed

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Speaker 2: six layups and what six seven free throws, like they

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Speaker 2: could have beaten us by more. I mean, I was

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Speaker 2: very disappointed when we lost, but in some ways we

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Speaker 2: were stolen it if we had won, because we were

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Speaker 2: so bad in the second half defensively that we kind

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Speaker 2: of didn't.

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Speaker 1: Deserve to win.

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Speaker 2: Gave up forty eight points in the second half to

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, look on social media, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of chatter about various stuff. The three or

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Speaker 2: four things that I think matter most. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the end. It'll get lost in the shuffle. But Dillingham

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Speaker 2: was amazing in those last few minutes. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: way he got to the basket. The and one is

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Speaker 2: one of the craziest shots I've ever seen. The final

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Speaker 2: shot he hit was awesome. I mean, to be really good,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have a dude that can do that, and

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Speaker 2: he can do it. I mean, I wanted him. I

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Speaker 2: wanted him to take that final shot, and he made it.

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Speaker 2: I saw some stuff online that people said he went

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Speaker 2: too early. I vehemently disagree with that. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: were losing, Okay, If the game is tied, then you

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Speaker 2: don't go for it until there's about five or six

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Speaker 2: But when you're losing, you have to go for it

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Speaker 2: earlier because if you miss, then you still have another

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Speaker 2: chance because you can foul them. And you know, Elis,

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Speaker 2: you had missed a lot of free throws, but even

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Speaker 2: if they make them, you have the ball up three

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Speaker 1: Made it.

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Speaker 2: But then they did everything. I mean the LSU shots luck.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's luck. Now it's bad luck, but it's luck.

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Speaker 2: Like a dude blocked the shot. The guy made a

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Speaker 2: shot blocked, catches it and while he's falling out of bounds,

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Speaker 2: passes it back in. You know, I'm not sure there

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Speaker 2: the decision to go for it early was the right one.

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Speaker 1: Dillingham made it. It just didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: But you lost the game because you had a fifteen

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Speaker 1: That's why you lost.

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Speaker 2: He gave it up in five minutes of game We

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Speaker 2: And you know, Kentucky is too good to be doing

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Speaker 2: this stuff. We've lost eight games this year. We have

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Speaker 2: led in the second half in seven of those eight games.

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Speaker 1: This is Kentucky. You can't keep losing like this.

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Speaker 2: And you know, in a lot of these other games,

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Speaker 2: I've had specific disagreements with something Cow did or whatever. Tonight,

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Speaker 2: my disagreement is just more big picture, like we can't

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Speaker 1: We just can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is they got too many good dudes

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Speaker 2: to not be more successful. And Dillingham and Reeves had this,

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Speaker 2: had great offensive games.

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Speaker 1: A dude played pretty well defensively, but we got too

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Speaker 1: many guys out there who I mean just can't do

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Speaker 2: And then they play big minutes. I mean, I I

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Speaker 2: like DJ Wagner. I think he's gonna he's had a

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Speaker 2: lot of good games. I think he'll have more good games.

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Speaker 2: But he played too much tonight. He was not good,

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Speaker 2: and they just kept putting him out there. And you know,

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Speaker 2: he plaid twenty one minutes, he was oh for five,

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Speaker 1: He got beat defensively.

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Speaker 2: Just too many minutes, right, I mean, Ugo played thirty

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Speaker 2: two minutes and he had two points. You're the top,

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Speaker 2: just it's just disappointing. It's disappointing to watch. LSU was

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Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in the country giving up threes.

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Speaker 2: We shoot forty percent, but we only take twenty Reeves

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Speaker 1: There's just we just make bad decisions. And then when

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Speaker 1: it's over, Cow says, well, we lost because of fifty

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Speaker 2: Because we gave up a fifteen point lead on the

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Speaker 2: was a sequence when I was sitting there. You all

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Speaker 2: lsh you shot an air ball and one of our

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Speaker 2: dropped it. LSU got it, kicked it out, hit a

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Speaker 2: I was like, that's a key playing the game that

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Speaker 2: it was close. So you know, I'm like a lot

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Speaker 2: of you all, I'm just tired of losing these games.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it is unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: We're now very likely to be the fifth or sixth

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Speaker 1: tired of watching the team lose these games and then

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Speaker 1: when it's over. This isn't the biggest deal in the world,

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Speaker 1: but it is a deal.

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Speaker 2: You know, cal takes two questions and leaves with According

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Speaker 2: to the reporters, they're multiple hands up.

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Speaker 1: He's a sore loser now, unfortunately, And he didn't used

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Speaker 1: to be like that. He did not used to be

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Speaker 1: like that. But you know, when they won Saturday, he

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Speaker 1: came in, talked a lot of trash. He came in

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Speaker 1: came in, talked about all the All Stars, etc. Well,

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Speaker 1: I was okay with it. I'm all right with that.

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Speaker 1: I like that. That's what we like about it.

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Speaker 2: But you can't do that and then lose and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I can just take a couple questions. We got an

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Speaker 2: early game Saturday, the game is at four pm, and

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Speaker 2: just saving those ten minutes, you think that's going to

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Speaker 2: really show itself against Alabama Saturday. That is just not

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Speaker 2: facing the music when things don't go your way. And

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Speaker 2: he's better than that he is better than that. He

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Speaker 2: didn't used to do that, and that's why. And I've

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Speaker 2: said this multiple times, you'll probably hear me say it again.

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Speaker 2: This whole thing comes down to March. This team can

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Speaker 2: beat anybody this They just beat Auburn, one of the

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Speaker 1: And we just lost to a mediocre LSU.

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Speaker 2: Team that will host someone in the n IT and

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Speaker 2: and we just lost.

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Speaker 1: That's this season. So it's gonna come down to March,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna come down to these games that are

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Speaker 1: gonna be coin flips against teams that.

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Speaker 2: We should be a lot better than. You may have

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Speaker 2: heard me on the show say right now. In the

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Speaker 2: tournament we play Seaton Hall. Let's say we played Seaton Hall.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna be infinitely better than Seaton Hall, and

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Speaker 2: we might beat them by twenty and we might lose

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Speaker 2: by ten and we have no idea and this team

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Speaker 1: We're too good for that.

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Speaker 2: We are too good for the situation we're in, and

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Speaker 2: I think that is ultimately it's what frustrates me, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's what frustrates a lot of you. Hey

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Speaker 2: nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, it's late

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Speaker 2: at night. Billy and I were just saying, when Dillingham

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Speaker 2: hit that shot, I had like ten seconds where I thought,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the bar was like jumping up and down,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, this is gonna be a fun postgame show,

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Speaker 2: and then the opposite. So we'll take your calls. Hopefully

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Speaker 2: we'll make as much fun of it as we can.

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Speaker 2: It's a five nine two eighty Seven's the Local.

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Speaker 1: Toy Dealers KSR Postgame Show Welcome Back. It is the

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Speaker 2: Cats lose again and they are now six and six

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Speaker 2: in their last twelve games and almost certainly now going

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Speaker 2: in another season where they don't win the SEC. This

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Speaker 2: will be what when was the last time we won

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Speaker 2: the SEC regular season? It's been I think we've won

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Speaker 2: it once since twenty seventeen, which is.

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Speaker 1: Really disappointed. I'm gonna be honest with you, this.

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Speaker 2: This this the gold standard is I've been the gold standard,

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Speaker 2: and tonight's another example in the abstract. This one loss

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Speaker 2: is not the worst thing in the world, but it's

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Speaker 2: on top of all the others that makes it frustrating.

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Speaker 1: All right, Billy, who's up first, Thomas? Thomas, go ahead, Thomas.

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Speaker 4: You know I'm gonna loss? For words? Is the lineup?

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Speaker 4: Should we limit this lineup to five seven players?

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Speaker 2: It's hard because you never know who it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: right like like you like, I mean, I know I

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Speaker 2: want Reeves in at all times. Between Shepherd and Dillingham,

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Speaker 2: I gotta have one of them. Most time, I'd want

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Speaker 2: to have both of them. But we've had games that

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Speaker 2: Wagner played well. He played pretty well against Auburn. We've

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Speaker 2: had games oo Goo play well. Edwards has been better.

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Speaker 2: I don't know Cal's fascination with getting Burke's minutes right now,

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Speaker 1: For me, this is just me.

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Speaker 2: I almost wish Cal had less options and he would

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Speaker 4: Give me three shooters and then two bigs. I'm done.

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Speaker 2: I like to see and I appreciate the call. I'm

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Speaker 2: Sheppard and dilling him all the time. Just let them go.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have some bad games, but let them go.

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Speaker 1: Wagner or Edwards at the four, depending on who's playing well.

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Speaker 2: And give me Thierro or Ugo at the five and

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Speaker 1: But like, what does playing these seven footers do?

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Speaker 2: Like when we give up offensive rebounds, what does it

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Speaker 1: I thought he played well against Auburn, so it's not

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Speaker 1: like I don't want him to ever play, but like tonight,

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Speaker 1: he was almost unplayable. But yet we played him thirty

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Speaker 2: You know, we had six straight offensive possessions from the

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Speaker 2: Reeves is on the bench and we have Bradshaw and

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Speaker 1: How does KL think that's gonna work?

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Speaker 2: I know Reeves had three fouls, but dude, like there's

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Speaker 1: What are we saving him for?

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Speaker 2: And we did not score during that period of time

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I don't why do we want

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Speaker 1: Who's next?

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Speaker 5: It's gonna Brett, Brett?

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Speaker 6: How's it going? So I just wanted to see I

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it about why it was twenty seconds.

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Speaker 6: It went straight to twenty seconds, and so I vote

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that was, unless it's a rule

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Speaker 6: I couldn't find any rule that it would either be

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Speaker 1: But but it was just what it was, just tip. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it showed thirty and then as soon as

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Speaker 6: we ambounded it like it jumped from thirty to twenty.

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Speaker 2: It was I didn't understand that either. I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: terrible goaltend call.

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Speaker 2: They get it right and take away the bucket, but

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Speaker 2: He didn't call it, maybe because it shouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: In college, these arrogant the refs that are arrogant think

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you and Thomas talked on a little bit,

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Speaker 6: I feel like you would rather want to live or.

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Speaker 2: Die with Yeah, although I mean struggled in that first half.

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Speaker 2: I mean the first half, the reason the reason we

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Speaker 2: we lost this game because of lineups, but I also

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Speaker 1: I just I think what frustrates me about the lineups

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Billy. It feels like it's

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Speaker 7: I completely agree, especially when Big Z comes in for

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Speaker 2: Why, I mean, why, Now, look big Z, we go

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Speaker 2: Like I don't understand, Like why at one point our

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Speaker 7: Like really, I think that's him still putting everybody out

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Speaker 5: And but why.

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Speaker 2: But I mean that was in the second half. But

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Speaker 2: That's what I don't get. I don't understand. Like, if

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Speaker 2: get Bradshaw some minutes, put him out there with four shooters,

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Speaker 1: And I don't get it. I really don't. I wonder

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Speaker 2: Even practice together? Because there's so many different combinations. There's

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Speaker 2: no way these guys practice together. I just I don't

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Speaker 5: Who's next, Brad, Brad?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Brad?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 8: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Matt doing all right? How about you? I'm okay?

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Speaker 8: So you know, they say the hallmark of a of

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna flip this onto the Kentucky fan base. Are

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Speaker 1: You know what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: I mean when you say, when you say we're not

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Speaker 2: we should? Yes, but it would be absurd to say

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Speaker 2: we will get our choice of you know, all but

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Speaker 2: three coaches in the country would want to come here.

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Speaker 1: So yes, well we are still a blue blood.

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Speaker 2: Program, just as North Carolina, Duke, Kansas, Yukon they are

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean I would I would disagree with you there.

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Speaker 9: I mean I agree with your first assertion, but like your.

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Speaker 8: Second in terms of like when he leaves, I mean.

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Speaker 9: We've all heard it nauseam that you know, we've heard

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Speaker 9: He's not going to leave the money.

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Speaker 2: That's a different point though. That's a different point as

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Speaker 2: to whether or not he will go. That's a different point,

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Speaker 2: and that's a different discussion. But whenever he goes, however

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Speaker 2: able to hire Bill self. I don't think they'd probably

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Speaker 2: be able to hire Danny Hurtley, but pretty much anybody

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Speaker 8: But it still doesn't guarantee success.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. But that's true of every school. That's true

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Speaker 2: There's no school that is guaranteed when they hire a

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Speaker 9: And the point that I'm trying, ultimately kind of going

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Speaker 9: I'm thirty eight, so you know, you and I are

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Speaker 1: But why would you say that Tennessee hasn't won.

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Speaker 9: Ea, it pains me, but Tennessee hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Won anything in football in twenty five years. Kentucky a

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Speaker 9: Last men, we're getting we're getting there when we're when

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Speaker 2: Time, we're still Tennessee's never been to a Final four. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're I mean like in Tennessee football hasn't been Tennessee

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Speaker 2: football hasn't even been to an He's been to one

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Speaker 1: It's not so I think it's acceptable. Now we're not

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Speaker 2: And we haven't even been to a Final four in

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Speaker 2: Now in the last five that's different. And in the

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Speaker 1: If why can't we But if Cal leaves, why can't

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Speaker 2: Gets out there, all the coaches of the programs that

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Speaker 1: If Scott Drews won a national championship.

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Speaker 9: I mean was a one off man you're talking about.

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Speaker 9: You think the Kentucky fan base is gonna go crazy

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Speaker 9: if we get a Scott.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they'll go crazy, but I think they'll

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Speaker 2: be fine. Scott Drews won a title. How many current coaches, sir,

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Speaker 2: have won a title.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I grant you that you don't win a

440
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Speaker 8: national title.

441
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Speaker 1: So he's not lucky.

442
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 2: Now, listen, is he the sexiest higher in the world. No,

443
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: but he went to a program that's not good at

444
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 2: basketball historically, has never been good, and he did something

445
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 2: that almost no one does. No one takes a program

446
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: that is not have a history and wins a title.

447
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 2: Tell me another one who's ever done it in the

448
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: last thirty years. Give me another coach that's taken a

449
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Speaker 2: non to use your term, blue blood program and won

450
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Speaker 2: a title since nineteen ninety one. You can't find him.

451
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Speaker 9: Arkansas.

452
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: Arkansas though, was good in the in the eighties and

453
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Speaker 2: the seventies, and that was in nineteen and they were

454
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Speaker 2: good for a number of years. So if Scott drew

455
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: is as good as Noan Richardson, you would want him

456
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Speaker 2: to be the coach at Kentucky.

457
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Speaker 9: I would take the guy from Arizona before I.

458
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Speaker 1: Would say, who's won nothing. Ever, he's just young if

459
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Speaker 1: he's not won anything. Fact, but he's not.

460
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Speaker 2: Won a thing, and so I mean, I appreciate the call.

461
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Speaker 2: So I'm just saying I'm not listen.

462
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Speaker 1: I'm not First of all, I'm not saying Cal's gonna

463
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Speaker 1: be gone, and I'm certainly not saying that Scott Drew

464
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Speaker 1: is a slam dunk like he'll crush it if he

465
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Speaker 1: were the coach here. But while I am frustrated, like

466
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: Kentucky basketball will survive who whatever happens, there are people

467
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Speaker 1: out there, and I know you're not doing this, sir,

468
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: because you're being critical of Cal, but there.

469
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: Are people who are Cal supporters who act like there's

470
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: no chance will be good if he's not the coach.

471
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Speaker 2: That's not true.

472
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Speaker 1: Now.

473
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Speaker 2: For years, what I would say is you better be

474
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Speaker 2: careful if you wish for somebody other than Cal.

475
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Speaker 1: How many people are better? And four years ago or

476
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: five years ago, I firmly believe that. But I'm gonna

477
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: be honest with you if we don't have a good March.

478
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: And then we were going on four tournaments with one

479
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: combined NCAA win and one SEC win since twenty seventeen.

480
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of coaches that can do that.

481
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Speaker 1: There's not another coach in the country that can probably

482
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Speaker 1: do what he does from twenty ten to twenty seventeen,

483
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: But from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty four, there's a

484
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Speaker 1: lot of people who can do that.

485
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 5: Who's next, WHOA, let's go to Cody.

486
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Speaker 1: Ain't I wrong about either of that, No, you're not.

487
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 5: It was just it took a while to get there.

488
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I wanted to give the guy a chance. Listen,

489
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: we don't have light at night. I gotta make sure

490
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: we still get.

491
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Speaker 5: I got a plane to catch, So we've got a.

492
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Speaker 1: Cody, Go ahead, Cody.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Matt, first time, long time? Who I had no

494
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Speaker 10: from the game.

495
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Speaker 11: Man.

496
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Speaker 10: Look, let me tell you that game was not sold

497
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Speaker 10: out like we're used to for us Kentucky fans.

498
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: That live in Louisiana.

499
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 10: That game was not even crazy we had that game.

500
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Speaker 10: I just felt like he took Reeves out the game

501
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 10: way too early. Once he took the Reeves out of

502
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 10: the game, we lost the lead. I just felt like,

503
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 10: you gotta stop going to that floppy action and start

504
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 10: drawing up some real offense, like call on John wells

505
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 10: see what he's got. I'm just seen that floppy action

506
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 10: laden games with Reeves. Because that stuff doesn't work. Let's

507
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 10: do something that's more modern. Let's do something that stretches

508
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 10: them out a little bit. Reeves is a bucket, then

509
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 10: leaves a bucket. We shouldn't lose games when we're up

510
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 10: fifteen and a half. That's all I got to say.

511
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Speaker 1: Thank you. I agree with it.

512
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Speaker 2: I think all that makes Thank you, man, I think

513
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: all that makes sense. And it is that is a

514
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: good point. Like, it wasn't like that place was wild.

515
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't like you couldn't hear. It wasn't like that

516
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 2: atmosphere was crazy. It was like seventy percent full. So

517
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: all right, well let's take a break. Eight five, nine

518
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Speaker 2: two eight to Zho twenty two eighty seven.

519
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Speaker 1: It's weird.

520
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: I'm in a weird position where like I'm critical of

521
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 2: the job Cows done the last couple of years, but

522
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: I still am very adamant that this is Kentucky basketball,

523
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: Like we are not some We're not Indiana Tennessee football

524
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: is Indiana basketball.

525
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: We're not there yet. Well what's happened has been unacceptable,

526
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: but I mean Indiana he's going to miss the tournament again,

527
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: so we're not there. We'll take a break.

528
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: Per Right back, it's a Local toy Dealer's KSR postgame show.

529
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: Walking back, there's a local Toyota Dealers KSR postgame show.

530
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: I didn't realize this show would become like a Scott

531
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: Drew conversation, but well, the text machine is just like

532
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: all people pro and con Scott Drew.

533
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: But one other things to remember about him, by the way,

534
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: is he took over a program, if you remember Billy,

535
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: where the players were accused of like trying to kill

536
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: each other and they were basically on the death penalty.

537
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, one grade over there.

538
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: It was awful, Like I think they were down to

539
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: like four scholarships for his first year or two. And

540
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: when he took over the job in two thousand and three,

541
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Speaker 2: they had only made the NCAA tournament once in their history.

542
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: In their entire history, they've been there one time.

543
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Speaker 5: Wow.

544
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: And he ends up building that program to where he's

545
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 1: National Coach of the Year twice and they won an

546
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Speaker 1: NCAA turnament. That's pretty good. Now.

547
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's necessarily the right guy. I

548
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: do think that's where who Mitch would hire. But like,

549
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: I just don't accept the premise that, like no one

550
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: can win him. Everyone that's coached here except Billy Gillespie,

551
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 2: has been a good coach. Everyone everyone that's coached here

552
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: is a college Basketball Hall of Famer except Billy gillisbie.

553
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: So like, we'll be able to find a coach. The

554
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: question is what are we gonna do this March with

555
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: this coach?

556
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Speaker 1: Who's next?

557
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: Gabe is next?

558
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: Gabe, go ahead, Gabe.

559
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: Hey, Matt, Hey, listen, you are exactly five months to

560
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: the day older than me. So we've been through a

561
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: lot in the Kentucky basketball here and especially this Caliperier.

562
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: But unfortunately, I'm I'm not sweeping any of the losses

563
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: under the rug. This season was about one thing and

564
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: one thing only. It was that tournament in March. Fortunately,

565
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 3: we shut ourselves on the foot. We're gonna have to

566
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: just like twenty fourteen, We're gonna have to play a

567
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: high seed like which it's All State. We're gonna have

568
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: to beat them, I agree, take over their seed in

569
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: the tournament, and you know we can become a to

570
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: a one, two or three seed by beating that team. Unfortunately,

571
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: that's our only that's the reality.

572
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right. You are one hundred percent correct.

573
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: And I've said this all year. None of because of

574
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: the circumstances of the last three or four years and

575
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: this year, none of this really matters until March. And

576
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: the goal all year was gonna be March because of

577
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: the past, and I'd hoped we would get a one

578
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: to two or three seed or have this success, and

579
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: that hasn't happened. So you're right, it's all gonna come

580
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: down to We're gonna have a first round game against

581
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: somebody we're better than but can beat us, and then

582
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: we're going to go have to beat somebody that had

583
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: a better year than we did in the second round

584
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: in order for this to be what you and I

585
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: hope it will be.

586
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: And we both know this team can do it.

587
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: I know they can, but I also know here's what

588
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: I hate. I know this team can do it. But

589
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: the frustrating thing for me is part of the joy

590
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: of Kentucky basketball is that we care about it all

591
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: the time, right like anybody can care about it March.

592
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: Everyone in the world carries about it, cares about it March.

593
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: We care about it in November, and I'm just tired

594
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: of finishing eighteen and eight and nineteen and nine and like,

595
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: like that's the stuff that drives me crazy. But you're right,

596
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Like twenty fourteen, that season, if you remember, was unbelievably frustrating,

597
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: but nobody cares because we went on a run. So

598
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: they can do that here. You're exactly right, all right, thanks, Matt,

599
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I mean that twenty fourteen team, we now remember it

601
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: for all those.

602
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Shots during the year we lost every way imaginable if

603
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: we looked really frustrated, but then they went on the run.

604
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: So maybe this one can do it too. They certainly

605
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: have the talent to do it. Derek, Derek, go ahead, Derek.

606
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Speaker 11: Uh yeah, Hey, Matt, Gabe kind of stile my first point.

607
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 11: I got a quick comment and then a question. So yeah,

608
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 11: we have read there who's literally the leading three point

609
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 11: shooter in the SEC and he took one three pointer night.

610
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 11: I feel like he's got to be a little more aggressive.

611
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Although he didn't play well, he made he made some

612
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: bad errors, but you're right, I still wish he would

613
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: shoot more.

614
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 11: And yeah, my comment more optimistic note is that we've

615
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 11: always said, you know, March is kind of a guard dominated,

616
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 11: guard dominated tournament, and I think we have a couple

617
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 11: of the best cards of the country. So if there's

618
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 11: any reasons for optimism, I think that's the army of Reeves.

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Speaker 3: Edward's playing better.

620
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 11: Dylling Ham is insane. So that's kind of what I'm

621
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 11: holding my holding my hat on at this point.

622
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: I agree with all that. I still think the best

623
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: version of this team, like you said, can beat anybody,

624
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: but sure would be a lot easier. Don't you think

625
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: if we were a one or two than being a

626
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: six or seven? He's gone And that's what That's unfortunate,

627
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. You know, right now

628
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: we're trending towards Billy. What would be the worst schedule

629
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: we could get, which was a sixth seed? Do you

630
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: know what time? What time they play at the SEC's

631
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: urdam an affair of six seed? What time nine to

632
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: thirty on Thursday?

633
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 7: And for us, oh, I don't know if we can

634
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 7: do that.

635
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if I could do that.

636
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: If we're a sixth seed, that's what we'll be. And

637
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: remember we don't have the tiebreaker against South Carolina, so

638
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: because we lost to him, who's next.

639
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 5: Hoo hoo hoo, what's up?

640
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Speaker 12: Hey, Matt, I agree with you. We're still blue bloods.

641
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 12: And any coach we you know, any coach would die

642
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 12: to come to Kentucky and could recruit at Kentucky. I'm

643
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 12: just so tired of the same old song and dance.

644
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 13: We have all these.

645
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 12: And this team is unbelievable, but we just don't have

646
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 12: a coach that can coach dexas and those. When we

647
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 12: get up fifteen in the second half, that shouldn't be

648
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 12: a time to put in different berks and people like that.

649
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 12: And that's the time you step on people's necks.

650
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Speaker 1: And yeah, and when you're up fifteen, the game should

651
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: be over. When you're up fifteen in the second half,

652
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: the game should be over. Should be over. But not

653
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: only was it not over, they came back in five minutes,

654
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: you know.

655
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, And you know last year I was like,

656
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 12: you know, the year four, I was like and the

657
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 12: year four I was like, yeah, I've lost it. I mean,

658
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 12: he can't once he does build up these freshman classes,

659
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 12: I mean they're just not he seated Himer, or there's

660
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 12: some flaws or some of them don't work out, and

661
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 12: and and when we go up against better coaches, we

662
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 12: get out coached, especially in uh, these big time critical

663
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 12: situations at the end of games.

664
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Speaker 1: And well, I don't know that he got I don't

665
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: know that I think he got out coached.

666
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: I think we actually played the end of the game

667
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: pretty well. I mean, that last play was fluky, man,

668
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean it was like that ending, you know.

669
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 12: But yeah, but well, and we get caught ball watching

670
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 12: a lot.

671
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 2: We did get caught. We get caught ball watching a lot.

672
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: And and that there were a couple of those plays

673
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: that were really bad. That Reid had one where he

674
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: was ball watching and then Ugo was kind of ball

675
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: watching on that three at the end.

676
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, and Reid had one one when he turned it

677
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 12: over in the lane.

678
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he ball watched and then turned it over

679
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: right back to back plays.

680
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 12: Okay, yeah, yeah, but the rest of the team was

681
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 12: by watching when he had it in the lane. Somebody

682
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 12: could just cut, you know, but they were Yeah, well, I'm.

683
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: Not putting that on other people. He dribbled into three

684
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: people and dribbled it off his leg. That's on him.

685
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 6: He did.

686
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 2: He did, that's on him. You we can't just excuse

687
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: whatever he does I mean, he he, You're right.

688
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: When you dribble in the lane and there's three people

689
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: and you dribbled off your leg, that's on you. That's

690
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: not anybody else.

691
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 12: Okay, But my thing is it was last year.

692
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 14: Down needs to go.

693
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 12: But they had this great class and I love this

694
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 12: team better than any team that I've liked in a

695
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 12: long time.

696
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: And well, hopefully they'll be able to do it time.

697
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope. So I appreciate you call you.

698
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: Here are the Here are the coaches, Billy that are

699
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: currently coaching that have a title.

700
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: All right, Rick Patino, don't think we're gonna bring him back?

701
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 5: Jellyble experience, Yeah.

702
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: Tom is Oh, I don't think we're gonna bring him here.

703
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: Tony Bennett, who I would rather pick my nails with,

704
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: like have them taken off.

705
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: My finger than watch him coach. No offense to him.

706
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: He's a good coach.

707
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: But Bill self and Danny Hurley who aren't leaving, and

708
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: Scott Drew and then.

709
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: John Kelpy and that's it.

710
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: That's all there the only active coaches with a title. Mmm,

711
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: so just keep that in mind. Who's next.

712
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: Let's go to Chris, Chris, what's up?

713
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: Chris.

714
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 15: Hey, man, uh, I want to say I appreciate you man,

715
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 15: how judicious you are throughout all this. You know, you

716
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 15: just mentioned the coaches that are coaching that have a title,

717
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 15: but Cal didn't have a title before he came here.

718
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Rick didn't. But Cal had been to the championship first

719
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: of all.

720
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: It's Rick had been to the final four with Providence

721
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: and then coached the Knicks. Cal had been to the

722
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 2: final four with you, Mass had been to the championship

723
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: game and should have won with Memphis. I want you

724
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: to show me the coaches out there that have resumes

725
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: like that. I mean that they exist.

726
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: There's a couple, but there ain't many, so like there

727
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: ain't many, right, You're right.

728
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 15: Look, man, that's not my point, and my point is

729
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 15: to kind of agree with you on Kentucky can bring

730
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 15: the recruits in. We need a coach that can coach.

731
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: Man.

732
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Speaker 15: I'll be honest, man, I'm almost fifty years old. I

733
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 15: saw Rick do his thing. I'm I'm aware of our

734
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 15: prowess as uk as a blue blood, I'm not. I

735
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 15: don't hate Cal. I love him for who he is

736
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 15: as a person. In a lot of ways, He's done a

737
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 15: lot for our state. I just I just don't think

738
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 15: he's the coach man. I'm all over the map because

739
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 15: I just have something.

740
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: No, I listen a lot of us I think I'm

741
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you go listen to my

742
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: first segment comments, I'm all over the map because it's frustrating.

743
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of the frustration is people,

744
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 1: myself included, just they think we should be we should

745
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: be better. We should not be eighteen and eight.

746
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: We should be like twenty one and five and sitting

747
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: there going you think we can get a one seed

748
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: what like, like that's what we should be doing. Instead

749
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, we're eighteen and eight and we still

750
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: have to play Alabama and we still have to play

751
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: Tennessee and we still have to go to Mississippi State.

752
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: Like that's where we are. Unfortunately, I can I ask

753
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: you one question.

754
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just I kind of I've been going back

755
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 15: and looking at the recruiting classes of final fours.

756
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: Most of them areness highs.

757
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: Are and I'm not, of course I love it, Yeah,

758
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: but I wonder, you know, it would be interesting to

759
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: see and I appreciate the call. In the era of

760
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: the transfer portal in nil. Is it different with these

761
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: recruiting classes?

762
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Now? You know, I don't know if you saw Billy

763
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: in college football.

764
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: This is the fewest underclassmen to declare for the NFL

765
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: Draft since like two thousand and nine.

766
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 5: Hmm.

767
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Really well, and like I want to say.

768
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: It is half of what it was in like twenty fifteen.

769
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: And the reason is in il right, like guys have

770
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: some incentive to stay. Now college basketball, there's some chatter

771
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: that they're going to be the most older people, meaning

772
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: like juniors are older to be picked in the first

773
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: round in a long time and the last decade. So

774
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: I do on some point wonder if this is getting

775
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: older and what how does that work?

776
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: Right? We'll see, but.

777
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: We should be better than eighteen today A five, nine, two,

778
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: eight zero, twenty eighty seven. Let's take a break and

779
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: we will come back to the final segment. This is

780
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: the Local Toy Dealers KSR Post Game Show.

781
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: Welcome back by a satement Local Toy Dealers KSR Posts

782
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: Game Show.

783
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: I have to tell you, Billy, as I see the

784
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: various people who write me again, I cannot believe Scott

785
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Drew became a big part of this conversation. I will

786
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: say this for everyone that thinks there should be a

787
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: coaching change, it's going to be. There ain't gonna be,

788
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: but it's gonna make everybody happy, because, like I said,

789
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: if that dude's resume is not enough for that, I don't.

790
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: Know who you think you're gonna get. Yeah, I know,

791
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: there's no perfect I mean I just told you there's

792
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: only seven dudes who won a title. You know, like

793
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: you're not gonna hire.

794
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: I mean I can give you three or four names

795
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: that they would never hire because of like sort of

796
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: character stuff. Yeah, they would never hire Natoates, they would

797
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: never hire Musselman, They'll never hire Chris Beard, so like,

798
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: forget that. I don't think he would ever hire Bruce

799
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: per So all those sec names, forget it. And then also,

800
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: none of those dudes have ever want anything Like That's

801
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: another thing, no remember want anything. Musselman's only probably had

802
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: the most success and they're terrible this year.

803
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: So you know, I.

804
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we who knows if we'll get to that point.

805
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Hopefully we have a good march, and these conversations are unnecessary.

806
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: Who's next? Todd? Is next? Todd? Go ahead, Todd, Hello Matt.

807
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 16: After our win against Auburn the other day. Excuse me,

808
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 16: I was afraid that that might have been Fool's Gold.

809
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: I was nervous about.

810
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 16: Tonight's game two, and when we had that fifteen point lead,

811
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 16: I thought, well, all's well, you know we're gonna win this,

812
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 16: and then it wound up being fools Gold from Saturday.

813
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that I agree it's fools Gold.

814
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: I just think they're inconsistent. I mean, you know, they

815
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: have now beaten some really good teams.

816
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: I mean they've beaten an Auburn team that's really good,

817
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: a North Carolina team that's really good.

818
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: So they are not fools Gold. It's it's not like

819
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: they're not. You know, they got lucky. But I think

820
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: they also can lose to anybody.

821
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: So that's you.

822
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I disagree with you a little bit

823
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: about Fool's Gold, but like, I don't think there's any

824
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: game that you can go.

825
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: Well, we're definitely gonna win this one.

826
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 16: Well, I just expected us to continue our excellent defense

827
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 16: like we was doing against Auburn and everything, and another thing, I.

828
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Boy, we did for a half. We did for a

829
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: half rather than the second half. It was different. But

830
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: go ahead.

831
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 16: Is Ugo and Big Z and a guy to throw

832
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 16: Bradshaw in there too. They do seem uncoordinated like they

833
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 16: you know, I mean you can box shots, no doubt

834
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 16: about it. But you know, when he it's hard though

835
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 16: for a guy Hugo's sides. I'm surprised at how uncoordinated

836
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 16: sometimes Bradshaw looks.

837
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: Hugo's a big dude. It's hard for big dude. Like

838
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: they many big dudes that size that are really coordinating.

839
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: There's something they ain't. Many Z is just lost. He's

840
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: just lost. I mean, I like when he's out, he's lost.

841
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: Bradshaw has surprised me. I mean, Bradshaw, you know, you

842
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: gotta remember there was a time where Bradshaw was the

843
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: number one ranked player in the class.

844
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: He didn't finish like that, but he was at one point.

845
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: And I've been kind of shocked at how ineffective he's

846
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: been exactly. And I'll tell you another thing.

847
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 16: If everybody on the team played with much with as

848
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 16: much energy as the air Row does, we would be dangerous.

849
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: Well that's true. I mean he's been I think he is.

850
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 16: I think he is the most the He don't score

851
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 16: a lot, but I mean he gives it all he's got.

852
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: You do watch sometimes, I have to say, and if

853
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: you think about it and you look at the guys

854
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 2: and you say, Okay, who on this team is getting

855
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: the most out of their talent? You would almost certainly

856
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 2: pick out three people, Thiero, Reeves and Mitchell. And it's

857
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: probably not a coincidence that there are oldest players, you

858
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

859
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

860
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 16: You he's gonna he's gonna be uh, he'll be back.

861
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I hope he is. I hope he is. I

862
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: think I said, I appreciate the call. I said that

863
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: earlier today, that he could be the leader of the

864
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 2: team next.

865
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean, he gets more out of his I assumed

866
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: he'd be the dude that didn't play this year and

867
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: he you got to put him out there because he

868
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: plays so hard. Billy, let's do three more and we'll

869
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: go to Ben. Who's next?

870
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 5: Okay, let's go to Brandon in Vegas.

871
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: Brandon, how are you? Brandon? I'm good man, How are

872
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: you good?

873
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 17: I haven't talked to you since that die bar in

874
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 17: Boise in twenty eighteen.

875
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that was a long time ago. Well, that

876
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,760
Speaker 2: was a fun, fun tournament run that especially that boise.

877
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have another one.

878
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, it's looking like we're heading west to some

879
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 17: Nowheersville city too.

880
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: Well, we might not now because we lost, we might

881
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: end up moving down and actually being closer to home oddly.

882
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 17: Yeah well, I mean you, you know, you and I

883
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 17: adamantly disagree politically, but for your game with this, yes, totally.

884
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 17: I can't disagree with what you said in your opening monologue.

885
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 17: I took a lot of heat from my call after

886
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 17: the Gonzaga loss, A little disappointed in that, but I mean,

887
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 17: here we are again. You know, Okay, we won two games.

888
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 17: You know, you're supposed to win at home, and it

889
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 17: was a good win at Auburn, and really tonight was

890
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 17: a fluke. And if if tonight was like our third

891
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 17: or fourth loss, no big deal. But you lost three

892
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 17: at home, and now you do this again.

893
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

894
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 17: On Tennessee, we'll beat Tim But I don't know, do

895
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 17: we beat Alabama Saturday.

896
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Or you know that we'll see they need to win.

897
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: But Alabama nearly lost at home tonight to Florida, so

898
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: they're definitely beatable.

899
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: You know, we just gotta listen. I feel like i'm

900
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: repeating myself.

901
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: But we can beat anybody, and we can lose to anybody,

902
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: and that's just how the rest of this year is

903
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: gonna be.

904
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we'll lose to Bandy at home.

905
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: But besides that, we can beat anybody left, and we

906
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: can lose to anybody left, and that's just how it's

907
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: gonna be.

908
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 17: I think, Well, that's the frustrating part. I mean, you know,

909
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 17: we'll see how this goes post saban Era in Alabama football.

910
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 17: But why is Alabama basketball even in the discussion when

911
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 17: Kentucky basketball?

912
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: Now?

913
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 17: I mean, we love cal I love every player on

914
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 17: this team. I don't know what we're doing with lineups,

915
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 17: but I can't stand the way that this is gone

916
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 17: since twenty eighteen. I mean eighteen was a Fluke notes

917
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 17: about how to beat with with Buffalo.

918
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: So well, look, I appreciate the call Flukes, you know.

919
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean.

920
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: We beat them three times, lost the fourth in twenty nineteens,

921
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: so you can I mean, Flukes can go anyway. I mean,

922
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: they go both ways. We've had some Fluke good runs,

923
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 2: We've had some unfortunate Flukey losses. You judge a coach

924
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: and you judge a program, by the whole and the

925
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: hole in the last five years has been disappointed. And

926
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of where I am right now.

927
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: Two more.

928
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 5: You think they're gonna give Reeves First team All American?

929
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: Probably not, But like I think he'll make first, second,

930
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: or third. I don't think he'll probably make first. If

931
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: we were better, he would.

932
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 7: So they got Ryam Yeah, and then two lottery picks,

933
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 7: potentially with Robin red.

934
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: And Yeah, the top five player coming out of high.

935
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 5: School and you've lost six games to unranked teams this year.

936
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's it's it's hugely disappointing, hugely disappointed,

937
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: no doubt.

938
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 5: Let's go to Jay Jay.

939
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: What's up? Jay? What we're watching? Kentucky basketball?

940
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 17: And just home the point Dame Snight was played in

941
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 17: the Pete Marriviche.

942
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: For the Players of All Time. Good having to read

943
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: the name, you know his record?

944
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: His record is Yeah. I'm sorry your phone keeps breaking up.

945
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't hear what you I'd like to

946
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say, but I can't. I

947
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: can't hear you. I appreciate the call.

948
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: We'll do. I have to do two more. If you've

949
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: got him on there, but yeah, I got him. You

950
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: were you were breaking up speaking of the Pete Marritage thing.

951
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: Jay Williams, man, and I like Jay Williams, but what

952
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: the hell was he talking about tonight?

953
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 5: I'm so glad I didn't get to hear any of it.

954
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: He's still arguing about Caitlin Clark, Like, dude, stop, I mean, basically, ear,

955
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: if you don't have a title, you can't be.

956
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: Great in college basketball. Like come on, man, there's you know,

957
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: not everybody goes to Yukon in women's basketball or I

958
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I don't get his his whole

959
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: thing about this, Kate. You talk about a weird hill

960
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: to down, but he's he's clearly going to do it.

961
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: They talked about it for five minutes in the game.

962
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,479
Speaker 1: It happened to be the five minutes we were playing

963
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,959
Speaker 1: bad too. Who's next?

964
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 5: He can't help himself. Let's uh, let's go to Derek.

965
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: Derek, go ahead, Derek.

966
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 13: Hey man, I wanted to make two comments if I could.

967
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 13: I'm frustrated with the way they played, But man, what

968
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 13: about you know Bradshaw never crashes the board whatsoever when

969
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 13: we're shooting the ball. As soon as somebody shoots it

970
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 13: from Kentucky, he runs, you know, he runs back instead

971
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,879
Speaker 13: of crashing the board. And I also wanted to say,

972
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 13: what about the unfair fallon calls of the game that

973
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 13: I mean, it was even the commentators were saying that

974
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 13: we didn't get a bunch of fouls go our way,

975
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 13: and then we got a bunch of tiki tac fouls

976
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 13: on us, and I feel like they took us out

977
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 13: the game a lot and slowed the game down.

978
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: And I thought there were some bad calls, but I

979
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: didn't think that's why we I mean, you know what

980
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: they We had nineteen fouls called on us. They had thirteen.

981
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a crazy difference, to be honest,

982
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: because they were attacking the basket and we were shooting

983
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: from outside, So I mean they missed calls.

984
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: There was one drive where I thought Reeves got fouled.

985
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: He shot that airball and they didn't call it. There's

986
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: no way he shoots an airball there unless But at

987
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: the same time, there was a play they got towards

988
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 2: the end that little that baseline move the guy made

989
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: where we fouled am minute should have been an and one.

990
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: They didn't call it. I mean, like you could do

991
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: that all game. I did not think that's why we

992
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: lost it, certainly, and why we gave up a fifteen

993
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: point lead.

994
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 13: You know, I feel like that's one reason. Let's stop

995
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 13: the fifteen point lead, because they changed the base of

996
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 13: the game so much.

997
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: With all the they hit three.

998
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: They scored thirteen point points in about three minutes of

999
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: game action, So I don't know, and three of those

1000
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: were threes, So I just can't.

1001
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: I can't blame that on you know. I mean, I

1002
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: appreciate called. Nineteen fouls is not a ridiculous number of

1003
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: fouls for a game. You know. That's again, they messed

1004
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: up calls.

1005
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: That happened, but like, you know, they didn't mess up

1006
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: enough calls for us to give up a fifteen point lead.

1007
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: In three minutes. Who's next, wad Wade? What's up? Wade?

1008
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 17: Hey man?

1009
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: How's it going?

1010
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 13: Uh?

1011
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 17: I've got a I think the biggest problem with this.

1012
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 14: The program as the disconnect between the administration and the

1013
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 14: basketball team.

1014
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: I feel like.

1015
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 14: CAL has been kind of set out on an island

1016
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 14: by Niche and yeah, that's for facilities or whatever, and

1017
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 14: it's just been.

1018
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Told Note he said, I know he said, he's put

1019
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: himself out on that island. Listen, I'm very harsh and

1020
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: critical Imich at times. The problems between the problems between

1021
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: the administration and CAL are mostly on Cal. I'm just

1022
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 2: gonna be real with you. It's not you know, let

1023
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 2: me ask you a question. I mean, let's be again,

1024
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Let's be real.

1025
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: Does any others Does any other program on campus have

1026
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: a problem with the athletic director? No, exactly so.

1027
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 2: But but if there's twenty coaches, do who get along

1028
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: and one doesn't, you're gonna blame the athletic director. Listen,

1029
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: Mitch drives me crazy about some things. He can be

1030
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: a puritan on stuff. I think he tries to put

1031
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: his own moral beliefs over what the majority wants often

1032
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of things I can be critical

1033
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 2: with him about out But I just ask you to

1034
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: think about this. In like the last four years, Cal's

1035
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 2: relationship with the administration, with the media, and with donors

1036
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: have all gone away in the last three or four years.

1037
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: Is that everybody else's fault or is that his fault?

1038
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 14: Well, you know, when was the last time Kentucky basketball

1039
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 14: had an on cap on campus? UH facility built for them.

1040
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: It was built bill, but they got to have somebody

1041
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: to pay for it.

1042
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: And you know why I can't get ready to pay

1043
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: for it because the donors don't want to give it

1044
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 2: to him. Somebody's got to pay for this stuff. This

1045
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 2: stuff doesn't come out as he has But you know, okay,

1046
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 2: but again he's offered to raise a portion of hang

1047
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: out a second.

1048
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: You want answers? Do you want do you want the

1049
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: actual facts or do you just want to All right,

1050
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I've tried.

1051
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: The donor facility he raised, he got pledges for some amount,

1052
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 2: but there's still another seventy.

1053
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: Percent to raise.

1054
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: And the reality is there's a handful of people who

1055
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: can write those checks, and cal doesn't have relationships with

1056
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: them and they don't want to write them. So you know, again,

1057
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: winning will solve a lot of these problems.

1058
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this.

1059
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: Do you think that LSU team that just beat us

1060
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: has better facilities than we do and has better administrative support?

1061
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, no, stop, did you and see Wilmington did

1062
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: Saint Peter's.

1063
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: No.

1064
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 2: We are losing and it is no one's fault but

1065
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: the people who run the program. If we win, in

1066
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: March and we make a run and Cal wants a

1067
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: practice facility or or whatever, he'll have a lot easier

1068
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: time getting it. But when you lose to Saint Peter's

1069
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: and you go nine and sixteen, and then you lose

1070
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: to Saint Peter's and then the next year you lose

1071
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: in the second round after being disappointing, and then you

1072
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: look and go, build me a practice facility. What are

1073
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: people's incentives at that point? So no two way street

1074
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: that's negative is all one person's fault. I'm not saying

1075
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: everything is Cow's fault, but a lot of relationships have

1076
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: broken down.

1077
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: In the last few years, and there's one common denominate.

1078
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: Cal used to have a great relationship with Mitch Barnhardt,

1079
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: with the donors, with the media, with the other programs

1080
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: on campus, and now they have none of those.

1081
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Why Well, everybody can make their own decision as to

1082
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: why that is disappointing loss. Hopefully on out against Alabama

1083
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: on Saturday, which should be a great atmosphere and reparina.

1084
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can get a Marquee home win. Thanks to

1085
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: Billy for staying up, Thanks to all of you for listening.

1086
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: We'll be back in the morning, right back at this here,

1087
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: in about eight and a half hours, this has been

1088
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: the local toy

1089
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Dealers KSR post game show