1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: All of their listeners. I'm Marta Martinez, senior producer at 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Latino USA, and one of my favorite things about my 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: job is that I get to report on people who 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: you'll rarely hear anywhere else on the radio. People like 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: me who mix English and Spanish when they speak, and yes, 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: who have an accent. Happy thirtieth anniversary to Latino USA 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: and mutees, gratias for celebrating with us. This is Latino USA, 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: the radio journal of News and Kurturre Latino USC latin 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: Latino USA. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: I'm Maria Inojosa. We bring you stories that are underreported 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: but that mattered to you, overlooked by the rest of 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: the media, and while the country is struggling to deal 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: with these, we listen to the stories of Black and 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: Latino Studio United, Latino Front, a cultural renaissance organizing at 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: the forefront of the movement. I'm Maria Ino Jossa nose Bayan. Hey, 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: dear listener, just a quick editorial note before we start 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: this episode. We did this interview in September before the 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: current military crisis escalated in Gaza, So thanks for listening 19 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: and we appreciate you. We all have to have responsibilities 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: for our fellow citizens, to protect and care for each 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: other and sure everything that we had with each other. 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: Never be afraid to speak out, to step out, even 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: when people will criticize you, disagree with you, challenge you, 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: insult you have that inner courage. Each one of us 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 2: actually has it. We just have to act on it. 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: From Futuro Media and RX, It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: no Josa Today a conversation with legendary labor leader and 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the oldest living Latina national civil rights activist. 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: The Lord is Wertha. 30 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: You've probably heard this iconic rallying cry sizepwee yes we can. Well, 31 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: the mastermind behind that phrase is Dolores Werta, who began 32 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: using it in the early nineteen seventies when she was 33 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: a young organizer. When we were working in Arizona, people 34 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: there kept saying in California, you can't do that, and 35 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: let's say yes you can, scepe. So you know, that 36 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: kind of became our battle cry. Now a lot of 37 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: people are using that battle cry. Doloris was born in 38 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: the small mining town of Dawson, New Mexico. In nineteen thirty. 39 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 2: At the age of three, she moved to Stockton, California, 40 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: with her mom and her two brothers after her parents divorced, 41 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: and it was California that would shape her. Dolries became 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: an elementary school teacher and taught in the nineteen fifties, 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: and it was in the classroom where she saw farm 44 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: children coming to school well hungry, and that made her 45 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: ask herself how could she help them? During this time, 46 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: do Lotus also founded the Agricultural Workers Association. Soon after, 47 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Dolorus was introduced to labor rights icon Cesar Chavis. Then 48 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: the rest is history. In nineteen sixty two, Dolorius and 49 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: Caesar launched the National farm Workers Association, which later became 50 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: the United farm Workers Union. Later, Doltus and Caesar would 51 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: be a part of the historic Delano Grape Strike. The 52 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: strike began in nineteen sixty five and ended five years 53 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: later with grape growers agreeing to union contracts that would 54 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: ensure both better salaries and working conditions. 55 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: The workers are on the guys. There will be strikes 56 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 3: all over the states and throughout the country because you know, 57 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: the show for cambing done, and the workers know that 58 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: they are no longer. 59 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: Alone after decades of fighting for economic justice for workers 60 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 2: across the country. President Barack Obama awarded Dolores the Medal 61 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States, 62 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, and. 63 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: On a personal note, Dolores was very gracious when I 64 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: told her I had stolen her slogan ce Pa, Yes 65 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 4: we can. Knowing her, I'm pleased that she let me 66 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 4: off easy because because Dolores does not play. 67 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: Flash forward to today and Dolores is ninety three years 68 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: young and is showing no signs of slowing down at all. 69 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: I catch up with Dolors on Latino USA today. It's 70 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: part of our continued celebration of thirty years of Latino 71 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: USA and as part of our election coverage, the Latino 72 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: Factor How We Vote, I catch up with Dolores. I'm 73 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: recording this interview from New York City and Dolores is 74 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 2: speaking to me from California. We're going to talk about 75 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: everything from politics and the current state of organizing, too, 76 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: sex and passion O level loties, Maria, how are you 77 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: so happy to see you? I can see on my 78 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: screen and I'm so happy to hear you. It's great 79 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: to see you. You are looking fabulous as usual. Thank 80 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: you for that so Lo lot is welcome back to 81 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: Latino USA. As you know, we've actually been trying to 82 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: get you back on the show for a while. But 83 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: you are a very very busy woman. Yes, I know 84 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: I need to slow down a little bit. What do 85 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: you tell yourself about that? Well, I do say that 86 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: to myself, and then before you know it, I'm already 87 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: scheduling something else. You know, I don't listen to my 88 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: own advice. So how many hours are you dedicating of 89 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: your life to activism? It might be oftentimes more than 90 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: eight hours a day, depending on where I'm at and 91 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: what I'm doing. So sometimes I do go to the 92 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: office every day and I try to get there by nine, 93 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: and we usually worked until about five, by thirty or six, 94 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: and then of course sometimes we have events in the evening. 95 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: You know, we're still working on redistagreeing, we're working on 96 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 2: education issues, having to go to school board meetings, city 97 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: council meetings or other types of events. So some days 98 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: might be twelve hours or fourteen hours. But I am 99 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: blessed that, you know, I have the energy, and I 100 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: have the time, and I have the life that I 101 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: am able to do this. So the Lord is the 102 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: last time you were on the show, just to bring 103 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: you back, it was in twenty eighteen, and I don't 104 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 2: know if you remember, but we actually had you with 105 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: your daughter, Juana, she's also an activist, And what we 106 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: did was we had the two of you in conversation. 107 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: She was interviewing you, and you talked about your experiences 108 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: with gender and with power and activism and also like 109 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: those dynamics within your own home. So we dropped that show, 110 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: believe it or not, on election day five years ago. 111 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: And I'm going to go back to that tape, and 112 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: so here is something that Juanna asked you during that episode. 113 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: What advice would you give to the young women who 114 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: are activists and want to have children or do have children. 115 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Number one, I think everybody needs to be an activist 116 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: in one way or the other. And I know sometimes 117 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: it's hard because we all have a lot of work 118 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: in our personal lives and in our work lives. But 119 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 2: we need to take a few hours of our life 120 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: to become activists. If you have that conversation about activism, 121 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: I think is so important. We're seeing our democracy under attack, 122 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: we are seeing us as women. You know, the rights 123 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: that you and I well you definitely fought for I 124 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: was a kid, right, so I actually thetis. I want 125 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: to do something that we call a temperature check. How 126 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: are you feeling about the current state of the country, 127 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: especially when we consider that Roe v. Wade has been 128 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: taken away as the law of the land, where the 129 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: Supreme Court has lost all forms of respectability, and you 130 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: know we're still reeling from January sixth. Well, I, like 131 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: many of us, are very worried about the state of 132 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: our democracy. And I think we take a temperature check 133 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: of our United States of America, especially our government. We 134 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: have a very high fever, but a lot of people 135 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: are in denial. What do people need to be doing 136 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: more of in this moment when our democracy is being challenged, Well, 137 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: all of us have to really get out there and 138 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: start organizing. It's got to be a call to arms 139 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: to everyone to say we've got to save our democracy. 140 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: It's up to each and every single one of us 141 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: that we save our democracy. And we can only do 142 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: that by voting and electing good people to all levels 143 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: of government. So, for you, an essential part of the 144 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: role of a citizen with or without papers is to 145 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: be engaged at every level of electoral politics, but also 146 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: beyond that, right absolutely. You know, I want to quote 147 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 2: Caesar Chobbs when you talk about activism, And Caesar was 148 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: speaking to a group of students and he said to them, 149 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: when you go to school, you talk about history and 150 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: you write about history, right, but when you become an activist, 151 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: you make history. And so this is what we all 152 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: have to do right now. We have to make history. 153 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: We've got to save our country from the FASTI that 154 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: is invading our country. And I call them the haters, 155 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: all those people that are taking away women's or reproductive rights, 156 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: going after our LGBTQ community, trying to rewrite history and 157 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: to erase our history and a history of slavery and 158 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: of sexism. And people need to know about working people 159 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 2: and labor history and everything that unions have fought to 160 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: make life better for workers. And this anti woke movement 161 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 2: is really a pro ignorance movement, is what it is. 162 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: In light of the conversation about democracy, Dolt is, how 163 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: do you think that President Biden is doing? The United 164 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: farm Workers, by the way, endorsed President Biden. Well, when 165 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: we think of everything that our president has gone through, 166 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: going through the pandemic, so going through the craziness that 167 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 2: has happened in our country with the people that are 168 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: trying to destroy democracy, and yet being able to bring 169 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: so much assistance to the public, giving people assistance during 170 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 2: the pandemic, saving the small businesses so that they were 171 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: able actually to get money to keep their businesses open, 172 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: to help them as much as they could, and you know, 173 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: making the vaccinations available to everybody, build back better act. 174 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: Now we see all this construction that's going on in 175 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: our country. You know, I just went to a dedication 176 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: recently of a housing project for farm workers and homeless 177 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: veterans and low income people. This is all coming from 178 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: the work of President Biden has done, and he's had 179 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: to go up against all of the craziness again of 180 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: the MAGA people, and yet he has been able to 181 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: take the country forward. And he could have done maybe 182 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: even a little bit more had we had more progressive, 183 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: more Democrats in both the House and the Senate. But 184 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: I think we can really applaud President Biden for all 185 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: of the great work that he has done to save 186 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: our country. Right now, Well, that's a pretty extraordinary and 187 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: ringing endorsement of President Joe Biden. There is, as you know, 188 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: and I know that you understand the critique of other 189 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: parts of the Biden administration the complicated issue of immigration. 190 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 2: Some people are calling Joe Biden the expeller in chief. 191 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts of the critique that on 192 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 2: immigration the president should have done more, can still do more, 193 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: and should do more, which frankly would be you know, 194 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 2: an executive order would be an easy way to assure 195 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: Latinos and Latinas to vote democratic. Well, we would hope 196 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: that he can do that, But I think that we 197 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: need some permanent solutions. We need another immigration reform like 198 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: we had in nineteen eighty six when we passed the 199 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: Immigration Reform law. And I like to remind people that 200 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: it was actually Senator Ted Kennedy, Howard Berman from California, 201 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: Peter Rodino from New Jersey, and Schumer, who is now 202 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 2: the head of the Senate, that made that happen. And 203 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 2: I say that because I was in Washington working to 204 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: pass that bill in nineteen eighty six, and we no 205 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 2: Reagans have signed it, but it was all the Democrats 206 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: that made it happen. And so we need a few 207 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: more Democrats in the Senate and in the House so 208 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: we can get immigration reform. The second part of the 209 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: solution is that we really have to look at the 210 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: way that we treat our countries to the south, and Maria, 211 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: you don't I like to use the word bananas plot 212 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: I knows, okay. And when we think of bananas and 213 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: we think of coffee, how much money do we spend 214 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: on bananas every single day in the United States of America. 215 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: If all of the money that we spent on bananas 216 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: went to the people in Guatemala, in Salvadoro Dudas instead 217 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: of going to the American banana companies Dold Banana, Chiquita Banana, 218 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: then there would be no poverty in Guatemala or in 219 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: some of these other countries. And so this is I 220 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: think our foreign policy towards our neighbors to the south, 221 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: that this has got to be changed. And then the 222 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: other thing about global warming, any of them, you know, 223 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: are escaping right now global warming. The crops are dying 224 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: and so they have people are not going to starve. 225 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: And then we have to make up for all of 226 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: the past when we had the opposite of the Americas 227 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: and the dictatorship that we popped up in Latin America 228 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: and South America. We have a lot of repayment that 229 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: we have to do to our neighbors to the south, 230 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: and then in the meantime, we've got to welcome people 231 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: and not criminalize them, you know, And I hope that 232 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Biden can do better on that. Dolt says, I was 233 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: thinking about the interview you gon Tolo, respecto my elder 234 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: ninety three years old. I'm about thirty years younger than you, 235 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: but still somebody who's lived through, like you, like kind 236 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: of unimaginable moments in our country's history. And I in 237 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: many ways the living through history helps me to understand 238 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: where we are. You and I live through a time 239 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: when you know, political conflict in our country was resolved 240 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: through murder. I mean, you were there with Bobby Kennedy 241 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: when he was assassinated. We saw Martin Luther King Junior killed. 242 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Now you flash forward now and our children, your grandchildren 243 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: and great grandchildren have had to witness the murder of 244 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: George Floyd at the hand of police and violence in 245 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: the form of January sixth, right, So I actually was 246 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: very intrigued, how you understand this moment of history where 247 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: we're facing these extraordinary challenges. Well, I think it's very scary, 248 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: and I think it comes back to our lack of 249 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: education in some respects, because again, we have that racism 250 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: that exists and the sexism that exists, and we're not 251 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: doing anything in our public school system to fight that. 252 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: And I think it's the time that we have to 253 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: say that we cannot have any more neo Nazis. We 254 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: graduated from our public school systems people that are so 255 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: raci that they will drive miles to kill somebody in 256 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: a different city like they did than Apostle because they're Mexican, 257 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: or because they're Asians, or because they're Jews, or because 258 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: they're Gays, or because they're Muslims. We can't do that anymore. 259 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: And so in California, by the way, the Senate pastor 260 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: resolution that they are going to start teaching non violence 261 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: in all of our public schools in California. But we 262 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: know that our schools are being starved right now. They 263 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: don't have enough money for teachers. Teachers are very low paid, 264 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: they don't have the consulors, the social workers that they need, 265 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: and yet when we try to get more money for schools, 266 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: it's very difficult. So I think we have to rethink 267 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: the way that we fund our public school system because again, 268 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: education is the foundation of our democracy. And you know, 269 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: some of those haters, as you know Dolores are Latinos 270 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: and Latinas right the masculine in Alan Texas, it was 271 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: a Latino who was a member of a death squad 272 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: and he was killing Asian people because of his racial hate. 273 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: So Latinos and Latinas are central in terms of finding 274 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: a way of peace. But also you know there's a 275 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: lot of hatred in the Latino Latino community, and so 276 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: how are you feeling about that in general, about the 277 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: task ahead and what's going to happen in twenty twenty four. Well, 278 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: I like you, I'm very very concerned about the Latino vote. 279 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: I know that the haters are putting a lot of 280 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: money into our communities to divide us. They're dividing us 281 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: on the issues of abortion. They along with the religious leaders, 282 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: are saying to Latino women that abortion is wrong and 283 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: that you should vote for the haters because they think 284 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: that it's okay for to criminalize women on the issue 285 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: of abortion, like where Gavitt is doing in Texas and 286 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 2: some of these other states are doing. And so I 287 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: tell people, I'm the mother of eleven children. My children 288 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: like Juanita. My daughter has a dog named Bruno, okay, 289 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: instead of having any kids, and she's also a lesbian. 290 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: And again, you know how many kids you want to have, 291 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: that's your own human right. The same thing if you 292 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: want to live with someone of your our own sex, 293 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: that is your own human right. And so we have 294 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: to remind people of that and not let these haters 295 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: divide us on the issues of abortion or gay marriage. 296 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: The other thing I try to do is remind people 297 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: that we are one human race, and that our human race, 298 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: Homo sapiens, came from Africa, and so we can get 299 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: rid of the racism and the colorism that exists in 300 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: our own Latino community. You know, they say when a 301 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: child is born, tell Nina and how that maybe is 302 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: so beautiful because it's light skin. And we have to say, no, 303 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: we have to celebrate our indigenous ruths and say that 304 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: baby is beautiful, or Rieta, that baby is beautiful because 305 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: the skin is dark. So we have to reverse that, 306 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: be proud of who we are, be proud of the 307 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: fact that we're dark, and then join the movement to 308 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: say so we can't vote against our own self interest 309 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: because these haters are trying to divide us on the 310 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: issues of abortion around colorism. Coming up on Latino USA, 311 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 2: we hear lo lord is Worth does reaction to the 312 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: many labor strikes happening around the country and what she 313 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: hopes her legacy will be. Stay with us. Notes. 314 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 5: My name is Regardlo calling from Washington, DC, and I 315 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 5: remember exactly where I was when I first listened to 316 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: Latino USA. It was twenty fifteen and I was halfway 317 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: through my peace court service in the Philippines, and listening 318 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 5: to Latino USA really made me feel sean and connected 319 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: to my Latinidad during a time in my life when 320 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 5: I was feeling very disconnected, and from that day I would. 321 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: Look welcome back to Latino USA. I'm Maria no Josa. 322 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: When we left off, we heard lolari Is Werta talking 323 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: about the current political climate in the United States and 324 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: how she believes people should be responding and organizing. We're 325 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: going to pick up my conversation now with Dolores as 326 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: she talks about her thoughts on current labor strikes across 327 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: the country and what she hopes her long lasting legacy 328 00:20:50,160 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: will be. So I'm going to take you back to 329 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 2: our archives again the Lottes. So you don't remember this, probably, 330 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: but one of your first appearances on Latino USA was 331 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 2: back in nineteen ninety eight, and I want to play 332 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: a little clip of you when we asked you, has 333 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: there been ever any point in your life when you 334 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 2: felt that No? Well, never really. In terms of the 335 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: lessons I learned from Sessa, that's one of the great 336 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: ones that I learned from him. I remember when we 337 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: had our very very first strike in the grapes and 338 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: Sessa they broken our strike and he says, don't ever 339 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: say that. He says, you get back to your picket line. 340 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: You're the leader. 341 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: You wait and see and you must never, as a 342 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: leader ever show any kind of despair or discouragement. And 343 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 3: that was like, you know, learning cold water in my face. 344 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: And that was a big lesson that I learned from Sasa. 345 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: So what do you think about listening back to your 346 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: words from nineteen ninety eight talking about Sessa Chavis, Well, 347 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: I learned from Sasada. He would always say, we will 348 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: always win if we do not give up, no matter 349 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: how long it takes, we will win. And so I 350 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: have had to share that with other people because people 351 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 2: do dispair. We have to have that faith in ourselves, 352 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: of faith and the fact that that we can do 353 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: and that we can actually make the changes that need 354 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: to be made. And so I think, especially at this 355 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 2: moment right now that we are living through right now 356 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 2: in the United States, that we have to have that 357 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: faith in ourselves, the faith in other people, that yes, 358 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: we can make democracy work, but we've got to really 359 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: really use our resources to make it happen. And when 360 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: I say our resources, that is our time, because our 361 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: time is the biggest resource that we have. As a 362 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 2: matter of fact, O Lord is we are witnessing really 363 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: another moment of labor rising in the United States. I mean, 364 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: we've been living through the Writers and Actors strike. We've 365 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: been seeing picket line something that you and I in 366 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: the nineteen sixties and seventies we saw all the time. 367 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: We saw one of the largest healthcare workers strikes. We 368 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: saw the auto workers in Michigan. For the first time 369 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: ever a president of the United States, Joe Biden, joining 370 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 2: an actual picket line. So what advice do you have 371 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: for workers who are demanding better conditions. Well, the lesson 372 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: that we are seeing right now is that workers are 373 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: not happy they're not getting paid enough for their work. 374 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: With people talk a lot about having a minimum wage, 375 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: and maybe even seventeen dollars an hour. Had our wages 376 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: kept up with the cost of living, our minimum wage 377 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 2: would be close eren to forty dollars an hour, not 378 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: seventeen or fifteen or seven dollars an hour. But the 379 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: other thing that we have to understand when workers do 380 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: go on strike and they will get recognition like they 381 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: have the Starbucks in Amazon, but then the employers refused 382 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: to bargain, and we were lucky that the Writers Guild 383 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: was able to get their contract and the employers have 384 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: to sit down and bargain with them. But now they 385 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: have passed so many anti labor laws that it's very 386 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: difficult for workers, even after they go on strike, to 387 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: get a negotiated agreement with the attorneys. So I just 388 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: want to say that we have to follow the workers 389 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: and they're making the sacrifice of the strike. We have 390 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: to join them if we can. But then again we 391 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: have to go to the ballot box and we have 392 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: to make sure that we elect representatives that are going 393 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: to help us improve the labor laws so they will 394 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: be more beneficial to workers. Has it been exciting for 395 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: you to watch this labor movement kind of coming back? 396 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: How are you feeling. I think it's wonderful, and I 397 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: think more workers are going to be going on strike. 398 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: We've got to change the labor laws. But makes it 399 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: very difficult for workers to gain recognition, and so even 400 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: after they win, not all of the workers have to 401 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: join the union, and they have a hard time collecting 402 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: the union dues money that they need for representation and 403 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: to organize other workers. So when we look at the 404 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: percentage of workers that belong to unions compared to the past, 405 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: it's a very minimal part of our population. And yet 406 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 2: you know, the largest number of people in our country 407 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: are working people. So we have a long way to go. 408 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: You know, when I speak, I ask people, do they 409 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: know how we got to eight our day? You know, 410 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: we all work and aid our day? Take that for 411 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: granted all over the world. Well, it was there in 412 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: Chicago when they had Mayday, And so I asked people, 413 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: do you know what happened to the labor leaders that 414 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: the popularly aid our day? People don't know, Well, they 415 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: were executed, they were hung. And so this is the 416 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: kind of labor history that has to be also be 417 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: talked into our schools because so many things that we 418 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: got from labor, besides the eight hour day, weekends, social security, 419 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: workers compensation and disability insurance, public education. Labor leaders fought 420 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: for these rights for all of us that we take 421 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: for granted today and people do not know where they 422 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: came from. The Lord is we're going to talk a 423 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: little bit now about leadership. You have impacted so many 424 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: people's lives in this country generations. A lot of people 425 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: like myself look to you as an effective leader, you know, 426 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 2: one who does embody that sense of hope. What is 427 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 2: it that you think that has actually made you a 428 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: good leader throughout the years. Well, being a leader is 429 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: to empower other people. And sometimes you're at the front 430 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: of the parade, you might say, but you have got 431 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: to organize all of the other people to join you 432 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: in that parade. This is what being a leader is. 433 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: That we have to ask people to come in and 434 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: join the movement, that we can't do it by ourselves. 435 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: And also not not to be afraid. And I'm going 436 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 2: to say this to because I think a lot of 437 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 2: times we as women, we lack the courage to stand 438 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: up and take leadership. And so I think we as 439 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: women have got to know that we have the ability 440 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: to stand up and be leaders. And even we know 441 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: and as I have, people will criticize you though my 442 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: fun of you. They'll call you names, but that just 443 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: comes with the territory. But the main thing is that 444 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 2: we have the courage to step up and say yes, 445 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: I can do that. So do Lorees. You continue to 446 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: raise the bar, you continue to say, yeah, I'm in 447 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: my nineties, but that doesn't mean that I can't do 448 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: what I need to do. So I didn't know about this. 449 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: My team, in preparing for this interview, actually told me 450 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: that when you went on this strike at the Capitol 451 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: in Washington. 452 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 6: This comes after Texas congress member former labor organizer Greg 453 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 6: Cassard held an eight hour thirst strike Tuesday on the 454 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 6: steps of the US Capital to highlight the need for 455 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 6: a federal workplace he standard, which includes mandatory water breaks 456 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 6: for workers. He was joined by elected officials and advocates, 457 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 6: including United farm Workers Legend Delores Werta, as well as 458 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 6: workers like Fernando Arista. 459 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: And you actually got on a red eye the night 460 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: before to go to take part in a strike. A 461 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: thirst strike, so deprive yourself of water. So I have 462 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: drawn the line at one thing. I will not take 463 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 2: a red eye. I'm too old for red eyes. I 464 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: don't want to do a red eye. You are like, no, 465 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: it's okay, I'm going to do a red eye and 466 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: then I'm going to go on a thirst strike at 467 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: the Capitol. Why. How how do you do? How? Well? 468 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: I guess I'm very fortunate because I can sleep anywhere, 469 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: and I think of a red eye just as a 470 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: kind of a bedroom flight. Okay, because so, yes, a 471 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: bedroom flight. 472 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 473 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: I take my eyes all the time. I took some 474 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: last week. Actually, I can just sleep anywhere. So if 475 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: you had to say, like at ninety three, what is 476 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: the biggest lesson that you have learned in terms of 477 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: being an organizer and an activist, Well, I'd like to 478 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: say that each and every one of us has to 479 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: become an activist. We all have to have responsibilities for 480 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: our fellow citizens, protect and care for each other, and 481 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: sure everything that we had with each other. Never be 482 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: afraid to speak out, to step out, even when people 483 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: will criticize you, disagree with you, challenge you, insult you 484 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: have that inner courage. Each one of us actually has it, 485 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: we just have to act on it. Is that what 486 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: you tell yourself just like you can do this? Is like, 487 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: what is it that you say to yourself? Well, sometimes 488 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: what I say to myself when I have to make 489 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: a difficult decision and I just think, Okay, what's something 490 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 2: my mother used to tell me. Also, whenever you make 491 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: a decision, think about how it's going to affect other 492 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: people fifty years from today, and then don't think about it. 493 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: Just do it. Because if you think about all of 494 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: the reasons why you shouldn't do something, you won't do it. 495 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: I mean, when I put me in a school teacher 496 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: to become an organizer, not having any income coming in, 497 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: that was a crazy decision. I had seven children at 498 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: the time, I was a single parent, I had just 499 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: gone a divorce. All my family really thought I had 500 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 2: gone us. But I mean, to this day it's the 501 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: best decision that I ever made. But it wasn't rational. 502 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: So a lot of times are decisions. If we want 503 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: to help people, if we want to make changes, they're 504 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: not rational decisions. But if we don't make those decisions, 505 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: then everything stays the same, nothing changes, And we are 506 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: the ones that can make the changes. See, these are 507 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: the things that I love about you. The Lord is 508 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 2: that you know, basically you could be doing anything right 509 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: now right you could basically be anything that you wanted 510 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: to do. And I'm fascinated by how you choose to 511 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 2: spend your time. So we know that you work an 512 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: eight hour day, you're at the office by nine. I 513 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: actually want to know about what the lot is where 514 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: that do when she's not working. Nima Labrida is like, 515 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: what do you do? What's your guilty pleasure? Well, as 516 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: you know, I like music a lot, and I am 517 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 2: a jazz fan, so I love to hear you know, 518 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: any kind of live music, jazz especially, and so in Bakersville, California, 519 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: we have a jazz workshop every Tuesday night and it's 520 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: free for everybody. So if I'm in town, then I 521 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: will go to the jazz workshop. And even no matter 522 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: how tired I am, when I hear live music, it 523 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: really really uplifts me. I feel the energy come back 524 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: into my body. And so I would recommend that when 525 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: people are tired, hear music, okay, because it really really 526 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: helps a lot. Oh my god, I love that. So 527 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: my sister, who is older than me, she is now 528 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: a grandmother for the first time to a little baby girl, 529 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: and my sister is now spending a lot of time 530 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 2: with her granddaughter. And I look at that and I'm like, wow, 531 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: that's really beautiful. But then I'm like, I don't know 532 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: if I could do that. I think that if i 533 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: have all of my brothers with me and I'm still 534 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: able to do this work, I'm going to want to 535 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: be the journalist out on the street reporting doing that work. 536 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 3: You know. 537 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 2: And I think of you, Dolortus. I'm like, Dolors doesn't stop, 538 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, Dolores keeps ongoing. And so I'm wondering how 539 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: you see that conflict, especially as latinas I'm sure your 540 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: kids and your grandkids have said, well, I will eat that. 541 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: Why didn't Why don't you stop working and just take 542 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: care of me and go eat popcorn and take me 543 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: to the movies and buy ice cream. Well, you know, 544 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: I like to quote Eleanor Roosevelt. After FDR passed away, 545 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: and her daughters went to her and said, mother, you 546 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: were not a very great mother, but now that the 547 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 2: Franklin is gone, then they will have time to spend 548 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: time with your grandchildren. And she said, well, I wasn't 549 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: a very good mother. That means I probably won't be 550 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: a very good grandmother. And there's a lot of work 551 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: to do. And she went on ahead and she made 552 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: the Great Refugee Program for the United Nations. Luckily, some 553 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: of my grandchildren are older now and sometimes we can 554 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 2: take a movie. In fact, one of my granddaughters, Denen, 555 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: took me to see Barbie. She said, Grandma, you've got 556 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: to come and see this movie Barbie. And so some 557 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: of my grandchildren are older so they can come, and 558 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: you know, they're all in the movement also themselves, so 559 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, we can spend time doing marches and picket 560 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: lines and things of that nature. So I don't feel 561 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: very guilty about that. I have twins now great grandchildren, 562 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: but I haven't had a chance to see them, and 563 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: they don't want me to come around. They said, no, 564 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: you're around too many people. Okay, you can come when 565 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: you've been a week at home and they haven't seen anybody. 566 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: So I try to sneak in. And I am going 567 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: to be going to a King Signena this weekend for 568 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: one of my granddaughters. I love that. Well, speaking of 569 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: hanging out, I have a couple of quick questions. These 570 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: are fun questions. Dolores, what is your favorite form of partying? 571 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: I know that you like to listen to live music, 572 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: but is there one particular thing where you're like, oh 573 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 2: my god, this is my nirvana when you're thinking about 574 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: partying and staying out late. What is it? Well, I 575 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: think dancing to salsa music would be it. Okay, dancing. 576 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: What's your favorite salsa song? 577 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 5: Do you have one? 578 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 2: I like Carnival, and the reason I like that because 579 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: of the words of Carnival. Oh my god, I love 580 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 2: you so much, Dolores. We even have the favorite the 581 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: same favorite songs. I mean, Celia Cruz is the queen 582 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: and she faced so much challenge in her life as 583 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: an Afro latina, uh, you know, with a gap tooth 584 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: and who was Cuban and et cetera, and yet that 585 00:34:52,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: song La is like the celebration of life. Okay, you 586 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 2: are in phenomenal shape. What do you do to stay 587 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: in shape? I guess I just keep busy. I could 588 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: do more I try to do if you starts exercises, 589 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: walking whenever I can, and just keeping busy. So there's 590 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: a question that I wanted to ask you that is 591 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 2: an interesting question for older women. And again, to me, 592 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: do lotes you represent a very full, hopeful, and yes, 593 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 2: passionate life. I mean, you did have eleven children, so 594 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: with all due respect, do lots you know that? Main 595 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 2: that means that you were having a lot of sex basically, 596 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 2: So I want you to take us back to that 597 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 2: time and when really feminism, women's rights, sex passion was 598 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: an essential part of our experience of women. Just start 599 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: our Latin and as two and I'm wondering how you 600 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: think about that time in your life and how you're 601 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 2: processing it now as an older woman. Sex and passion. 602 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting that to ask that question, because 603 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: you know, I was married twice and it got two divorces, 604 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 2: and I never ever experienced sex and passion until my 605 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 2: third relationship with Richard Chabs okay, Caesar's brother, and that's 606 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: when I found out what sex and passion combined were. 607 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 2: Before that, I never knew that. And it's kind of interesting, 608 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: and I imagine that other women may have had that 609 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: same experience. And when you think back about that and 610 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: then you're just like, wow, there were a lot of 611 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: years in my life when for all kinds of reasons 612 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: that are often tied to our cultural issues. I wasn't 613 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 2: able to celebrate and enjoy my own sexuality or my 614 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 2: sense of passion enjoy and it's like, I'm the loss 615 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 2: of so many years, and I guess it's something that 616 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: we're not taught that, I mean growing up, because as 617 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, sex was kind of a taboo subject. And 618 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: even my own mother, who I considered way beyond her 619 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 2: times in terms of being a doer. She was a businesswoman, 620 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 2: very active in the community, and she never really explained 621 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: that to me. So I guess it's something that sometimes, 622 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: at least back in the day, you had to kind 623 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: of have to find out for yourself, right, and then 624 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you say, oh, this is what 625 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: this is supposed to be like twenty years later, yeah, 626 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: which leads me as we're wrapping up the lot is 627 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: you know, reproductive rights. Abortion rights are one of the 628 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 2: top issues for Latino and Latina voters for the first 629 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: time ever, it's in the top issues. What are your 630 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 2: thoughts about that? Well, I think that the haters they 631 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 2: are assuming that Latinos are against abortion, and there are 632 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: a lot of that are because we know that a 633 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: lot of Latinos are Catholics, are evangelical, and so they've 634 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 2: been they're being preached to. So while maybe personally they 635 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: don't believe abortion, but publicly they think that they have 636 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 2: to be. And so I'm spending a lot of my 637 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: time speaking to Latinas and Latinos and telling them, you know, 638 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 2: we have to believe in science and explain to people 639 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: that a fetus is not a child. But we have 640 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 2: to do a lot of work in our community because 641 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 2: the haters are putting a lot of money into Latino 642 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: communities and they're making headway. They're making headway, and so 643 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: we have to counter that. And I actually consider that 644 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 2: one of my missions that we have to do this, 645 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 2: especially as we prepare for the elections that are coming 646 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: up next year. Yeah, you really feel like Latinos and 647 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: Latinas are being targeted absolutely very specific like disinformation, misinformation. 648 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 2: So the beautiful thing about you, the lot is is 649 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 2: that even though you are this icon, you are this powerhouse, 650 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 2: you are not afraid of owning your power. Those of 651 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 2: us who know you and who have seen you and 652 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 2: been close to you, we also know that you are 653 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: somebody who really moves with a tremendous amount of humility 654 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: muchisima umil dad. So those are two kind of different, 655 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 2: you know polls, Like the one hand, really powerful, tiny 656 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: Mexican American Latina woman and on the other hand, somebody 657 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: who is prepared to own and be part of her 658 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: own humility. So when you think about your legacy, Dolories, 659 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: what do you want people to remember about Dolodi is 660 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: er Well, I would like people to remember me as 661 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: an organizer, someone who was out there empowering people to 662 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 2: become active, us to become engaged in the political process 663 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 2: and to stand up for themselves, and that they would 664 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: know that they have the power to make the changes 665 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: in their lives and in their community, and that they 666 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 2: are the only ones that can do They should deliver 667 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: wait for someone to come and do it for them, 668 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: because it's not going to happen. We have the power 669 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 2: within ourselves, and to me, that is the important message 670 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: that I want to give people the way that I 671 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 2: learned that message from Pedroz sing. 672 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 3: It's so. 673 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: Gracia and I just love seeing you, dolord is. The 674 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 2: next best thing is going to be seeing you in person. 675 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 2: Who knows when, hopefully very soon the Mutro. This episode 676 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 2: was produced by Rinaldo Leanos Junior and edited by Andrea 677 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 2: Lopez Cruzado. It was mixed by Julia Caruso. 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