WEBVTT - Say It Ain’t So, Nicole and Keith Call It Quits 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:06.160 Hey, they're folks. It is Tuesday, September thirtieth. This will 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:11.360 not be an episode full of speculation, but rather sadness. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.280 Welcome to Amy and TJ. I don't necessarily say that 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:21.200 in some sarcastic way. I was truly like, it's certainly shocked, 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:23.120 but it's stung to hear that Nicole Kidman and Keith 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.400 Urban were splitting after nineteen years of marriage. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:28.800 You know, we see their smiling faces. There have been 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:33.080 so many interviews and pictures with them together over the 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.120 years that you felt like, my god, they've made it 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.560 this far. They've been together for twenty years, married for 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.880 nineteen and even as recently as their nineteenth wedding anniversary 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.600 on June twenty fifth, it seemed as though everything was good. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.280 And that's the thing, seemed as though no one really 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.600 knows what's going on. And even though they're celebrities and 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.360 they're beautiful people with lots of money and gorgeous homes 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.760 and a beautiful family, they still deal with the same 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.640 stuff that everyone else does. And yeah, it's sad when 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.119 you see two people who were devoted to one another 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.720 decide to part ways. And it may be what's best 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.520 for both of them and best for their family in 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.640 terms of where they were and are, who knows. But 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.280 it's still sad because we all were, without even realizing it, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.959 rooting for them and maybe even comforted by them. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.720 I didn't have to think about them and root for 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.920 them because they're just solid. Yeah, they're good. I don't 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.600 have to wonder if they're going to make it. This 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.039 isn't some new love. They got two kids in they've 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:38.120 actually been through some tough stuff together privately and publicly. Yeah, 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.720 they're solid. They're good. And every time I saw them 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.960 a picture, every time we had anything to do with her, 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:48.040 and it was just, eh, made you feel good. Oh 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:51.160 that's hey, how y'all doing everything good? Yeah, just kicking 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.080 it in Nashville. Everything's cool, like you always. That was 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.160 never thought in my mind that there was trouble anywhere. 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.160 Yeah. When I think of them and I think of 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.360 the pictures of them, they're always holding hands, They're always 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.080 touching each other, like physically, you could see their connection 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.920 and it seemed I mean it was I'm sure, of 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.400 course genuine, but yeah, we never thought to wonder. There 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.360 were never any hints or allegations or pictures of you 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.000 know he's on tour a lot, she's filming movies in 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.160 Fantastic series and winning awards and so. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.040 But they always just seemed good and. 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:27.920 Supportive of each other, very publicly, if it's his red carpet, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.200 her red carpet, music or movies, and even on stage, 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:35.160 they have declared their love in very significant ways. Look, 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:38.240 we never ever know for sure. We're not suggesting just 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.240 by a picture or anything else. But when you hear 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.960 about two people who made the commitments that they made 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.400 to each other, to their family, to moving to Nashville, 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.640 they got two both teenage. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.320 Girls, yes, seventeen and fourteen. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.640 Two teenage girls. All these things and not really a 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.320 hint of issues. And we're not supposed to I'm not 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.160 saying we're supposed to be they were supposed to let 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.560 us into their lives in this way, but they did 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.760 let into their lives in a lot of ways. And 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.520 from what we knew and from what we saw and 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.880 from what we were appreciative of, Ah, they made it. 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.480 They're even age appropriate, right. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.200 They're one year apart. She's fifty eight, he's fifty seven. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.000 But even in that there's a maturity or respect they have, 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:19.800 right she's had a previous marriage. These are tested people like, 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.400 oh they're good now. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.720 Yeah, he went through addiction, credited Nicole for helping him 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.600 through that. She's credited him with giving her a safe 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.240 home to come back to after she's traveling with these movies. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.399 And you know, that's a tough life. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.640 Anyone who is in that field, and certainly in the 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:41.280 entertainment industry knows you are oftentimes put in different places 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.520 around the world from one another. You have massive temptations 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.960 with other attractive people in your circles who you're either 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.160 on stage with or on film with where you have 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.680 romantic love scenes, and you're away from your partner. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.880 No, they went through and got through all of that. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.200 To be here. And again, we spend so much time. 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:08.920 This doesn't feel like it's not right. A celebrity scandalist, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:14.520 tabloid breakup. This is a shocking, shocking breakup because of 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.280 the year's in But. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.680 I do worry that it could become that. Look, I 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.599 hope it doesn't. But when you have two people and 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.279 by the way, neither Keith Urban nor Nicole Kidman, nor 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.760 any of their publicists, managers, etc. People who represent them 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.640 have said anything publicly in terms of a statement. We 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.640 know that several news organizations have independently confirmed it, so 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.080 it is true that they have separated, but we haven't 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:45.760 heard anything from them, And I just hope, but I've 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.919 already started to see it online. But I hope that 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.520 we will let them, when they're ready, tell their story. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.159 But for everyone else to tell their story for them 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.840 is usually what ends up happening, and everyone wants a 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.279 bad guy and a good guy. Most people can't handle 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:01.920 or stomach the fact that maybe two people just grew apart, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.440 maybe two people had whatever issue that didn't involve some scandal. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.680 But I do fear, because we have seen this and 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.359 we have lived it, that that is what people expect 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.880 and almost try to write to almost will it to happen. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:19.360 They're filling in blanks. They're filling in there's a huge 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.080 void of official information, and everybody is talking about it 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.040 and interested in it. So what we have experienced and 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.160 what you'll be seeing out there is at so many places, 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.960 so many outlets are looking to still get you to 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:34.800 watch and click and be interested in a story they 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:38.280 put out, but there's no information. So source says, this 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:42.240 friend close to the couple says this insider says this, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.359 There is a lot of that going on. We wrote, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.679 we discussed it beforehand. I might have pounded the table 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.279 when I was talking about it, like, I don't want 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.560 to mention a single word here of speculation on what 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.520 might have and if this, and whatever else. What we're 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:02.160 telling you is that, yes, several whose outlets have independently 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:07.159 confirmed that these two aren't together. That, folks, is all 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.800 that we are willing to say that we know right 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:11.279 this point. 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.760 Because the tabloids are already starting to go down that 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.120 path and it hasn't even been twenty four hours. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:17.800 So I fear. 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.680 Look, I just we know we've walked down this road. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:23.200 No matter who you are, no matter how big of 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.120 a celebrity you are. 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.440 This stuff hurts. And so I actually embracing. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.200 Myself for Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban and their two daughters, 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.960 for what may come next, because everyone is going to 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.960 want to have a good guy and a bad guy. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:37.560 They're going to want a reason. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.320 That they can understand that they feel good about that's 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.200 for whatever reason makes them feel safe or better than 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.000 them in their own relationships. And that is what is 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.400 almost certainly going to happen in the next coming hours 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:50.200 and days of the leaks. 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.480 But why, I mean, why is it everybody listening, everybody 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:59.560 knows that relationships aren't that simple, that you have a 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.679 good guy and a bad guy. Sometimes people grow apart. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.680 There's all kinds of reasons for it. But why is 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.719 it that the public are so many in the public 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.360 or are we just talking about the folks that yell 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.760 the loudest on social media have a problem with it 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.000 being just to that and accepting Why does it have 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:16.000 to be more. 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.000 White because that's not interesting, because that's not interesting, because 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.600 that's not compelling, because that's not something that you would 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.559 want to watch on TV or see in a movie. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.840 It's boring. So that's you know, look the j Lo 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.320 ben Affleck thing. He even talked about this, that people 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.280 wanted some specific thing that they could point to or 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.160 say this is why, and he said, sometimes it's boring. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.200 Sometimes it isn't what tabloids want to write, and so 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.320 they write something else and they fill in the blanks 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.640 and they all they have to say is sources close 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.520 to the couple say, insiders say, and they could be 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.600 making it up. And that is the truth. Because we 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.840 have read so many things about our personal lives that 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.080 are completely and patently false that we know no one 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.240 close to us would have ever said or told a tabloid, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.320 and yet they can continue to report it. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.880 They make it up based on a picture. 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.880 Based on something that they can read into or infer, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:09.680 and it's simply not the truth. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.360 So they are going to and I'm sure well they 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.640 are dealing with. Now. Look, a divorce for a excuse me, 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.000 a split, any relationship update for a couple that's been 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.600 this public, it's just a difficult time. Look, if you 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.320 don't have to deal with the public scrutin of be 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.520 any kind are enough, it's difficult. Even if you haven't 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.640 been divorced, excuse me, together for nineteen years. You've been 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.800 together for two years. A breakup hurts. They got family involved, 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.440 kids involved, There's a lot here, and your heart goes 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.520 out to him for what's happening. And this was again 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.000 we go back to he was raised in Australia but 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.120 born in New Zealand. But wait, we look at him. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.280 I see just I forgot he was down. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.800 I completely forgot because you just think of how he 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.040 sings his country music. 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.880 He's a country music star. Of course he's from Nashville 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.200 or Texas or wherever from the south, but that is 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:03.080 the case. They did meet, was it good a USA? 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.520 Good a USA galap from It's. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:09.280 Called the Australian American Association that I hadn't heard of, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.360 but yes, it is what it sounds like, this large 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.000 nonprofit that promotes relationship between the US and Australians. They attended. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.480 Obviously that two of. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.000 The biggest stars from Australia here. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.480 They met there and Sparks flew. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.079 I suppose yeah, pretty quickly too, they were they started dating, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.440 they were engaged I guess around a year later, and 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.080 married a month after that. So they actually officially got 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.600 married I believe in June of two thousand and six. 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.560 Correct. I guess it was June twenty fifth, because we 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.400 know their anniversary June twenty fifth, two thousand and six. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.280 And nice wedding wasn't as quickly as it I guess 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.840 they had it planned already. But they were engaged one month, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.400 married the next. This was a pretty big, extravagant wedding. 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:50.199 In Sydney, Australia. 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:54.640 Yeah, it was nice. Kendall lit some historic estates, so yeah, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:55.840 it was a big whoope doo. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.880 Yes, and then come along and pretty two daughters, so 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.040 oh seventeen and fourteen, so pretty quickly made a family 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.800 out of it, and a gorgeous family, a family that 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.439 walks the red carpets together, smiling and holding hands. I 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.120 think that's another thing, you know, when you only get 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.400 and we've talked about this so often, and we can 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.720 I can talk about it personally as well, when people 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.280 only see your Instagram photos, when they only see the. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:21.240 Pictures on the Red carpet. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.079 Of course you're smiling, of course you're putting your best 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.000 foot forward. Of course you're putting the happy moments out there. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.280 And so we all get this picture, this image that 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.200 other people have these perfect marriages and these perfect families 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.440 and these perfect relationships, and then we're shocked when we 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.240 find out that they're just like us. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.559 We say shot. And again you mentioned the Red carpet pictures. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.200 Theirs are pretty pretty good, a lot of theirs, and 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.959 I if you want to start paying attention to Red 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.679 carpet pictures, and I don't just do this when people 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.439 break up, but if you watch people on red, how 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.959 do couples interact when all the cameras and lights are 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.200 on them, and when you start paying attention to things, 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:03.360 you see how maybe the woman's head is leaning the 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.720 other way, maybe there's a little hint of space between 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:07.440 their shoulders. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:08.880 They're not touching, arm is. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.360 Around the other. Which direction are they interacting with each other? 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.160 When you start paying attention that I have more so 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.800 in the past few years to that stuff. Man, you 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.640 see little signs. Okay, I see where they're were, Okay. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.959 My point is you don't see that with these two. No, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.800 it's not just smiling and hamming it up for a camera. 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.040 You see kind of sometimes in some pictures, obviously not all, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.440 but an embrace, a playfulness. An intimacy is the word 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.480 I would use. When they're in front of cameras, everybody's 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.880 looking at us, we're still into each other. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:45.080 I love that there's an intimacy and an authenticy I 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.679 can't talk authenticity, thank you that. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.440 I think you can't fake. I mean maybe some people can. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.120 Granted, this is an actor and a performer, so you 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:55.880 know that's silly that I just said that. But I 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.800 do think in those moments when the cameras are flashing 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.359 and people are calling your names, I don't know, and 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.719 you look back, because of course now everyone's going back 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.360 through those photos, probably for the reasons you just mentioned. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.839 Look at a sign, yes, but if you look, you know, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.680 just as early as this past spring or last year, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.320 and even the interviews that they gave in the last 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:20.680 year of their relationship, they weren't just saying nice things. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:21.480 They were gushing. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.120 They were saying, she is the love of my life. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.240 She is the reason why I was put on this 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:31.200 earth to love her very very like he's my soulmate, 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.600 like things like that. So yes, of course we all 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.240 that that is why it's so shocking. But I would 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:40.199 argue that you can feel like feelings do change and 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.959 circumstances do impact. So you could have meant it when 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.600 you've said it, but a month later you might not. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.800 Mean it again. You know, that's the reality. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.760 There's a lot of people listening to us in the 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.680 cynical like of course they were just putting on And 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.480 I hate to be that kind of dismissive. And it's 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.640 fine if other folks want to. I just you gotta 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.480 believe in something, and this relationship, at least that we 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.280 have seen in the past twenty years, I find if 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.800 I fell for it, I don't think I did, and 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.360 I absolutely believed in it and looked up to it 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.160 to a certain degree. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.040 And so I think that's why people are looking for 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.200 something dramatic, must have happened. And I think that's where 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.960 the speculation and the rumors begin, because they think, if 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.320 they were so solid, the only thing that could have 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.000 happened is something dramatic, something specific, and it had to 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.520 be one of them who did it. And that is 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:27.959 exactly where people go. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.080 We have lived enough life to know that's not how. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.319 It is complicated. It is complex. It was most likely 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:35.560 years in the making. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.160 Yes, yes, yes, what was the I can't remember another one, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:44.120 but al Gore tip was it forty years? They were Rember. 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.840 I never believed that kiss. Oh that kiss was ridiculous, say. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.080 Terrible example, because that was the first image that came 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:51.680 to your mind. 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:52.840 That's a fake kiss. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.480 Okay, but that was him al Gore. But yes, he 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.240 even kisses stiffly, I. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:03.119 Mean, or it wasn't received with warmth either. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.240 Way, Come on you anyway. My point means that was 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.920 another shakra of people who had been through so much 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.720 in life, it seemed, and now all of a sudden 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.800 we decided we don't want to be together, that's okay. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.000 There was a lot of discussion about relationships after that one. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.240 It's okay to start over, to think you have another 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.280 shot or be with another campaign. Why do I have 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.800 to stay here? If this is what life is? I 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.600 think that. Can you remember another like a huge celebrity 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:30.640 couple been together. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.560 A decade Hugh Jackman and his wife. That was a 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.600 big chakra. I think they were twenty years and that 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.920 was recent as well. And he has been dealing with 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:42.960 bad press and publicity with his current relationship with Sutton Foster, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.320 so he's been dealing with that heat. But that was 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.400 shocking to a lot of folks. But his wife wasn't 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.640 I shouldn't say famous, but she wasn't in the same 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.040 celebrity status as him. So that's why I don't think 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.800 it rose to the level when you have two mega 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.920 celebrities like j Lo and Ben Affleck or yes, Nicole 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.000 Kidman and Keith Urban, you're going to get a lot 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:02.080 more scrutiny. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:06.600 Dude, if you tell me Eva that's something between Goldie 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:07.800 Hawn and. 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.880 Kurt Russell, although they don't have to get divorced. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.080 Divorced, but if if these two go there separate, I'm done. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.800 That would gut me, like actually gut me. 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.040 Okay, And we're not putting that out there or any 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.400 suggestion of that. But that's just another couple we look 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.400 at that's been together for a long long time and 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:28.320 seem to have figured something out about making it work. 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.320 I was just I couldn't. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.480 I should have Filt Smith and Jada pickin Smith too. 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.720 That was a big one. I mean, there's rumors around 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.280 it for a while, but it was still and we 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.640 still I don't even know what their relationship status is 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:38.000 right now. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.840 Okay, that's my point that was, it's not muddy the 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.800 waters here. We'll stay with us here, folks. When we 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:49.160 come back, we're gonna remind you these folks aren't just stars. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.120 They aren't just a movie star and a music star. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.480 These two I had to be reminded just how on 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.320 top of their games that they are. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:12.280 And and and continuing our conversation about these shocking and 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.440 sad news that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are officially 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:21.080 splitting up after nineteen years of marriage. Several news organizations 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.600 have confirmed their separation, although neither Star nor any of 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.120 their representatives have officially made any kind of comment about 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.760 it being true about what happened, about what the next 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.880 steps are, but certainly it's incredibly sad to see a 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.240 couple like that, a powerhouse couple who seemingly were so 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.440 in love and had figured out how to make marriage last, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.120 and not just last, but actually be happy. I mean, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.640 when you look at the pictures, when you hear the interviews, 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:54.840 recent ones, they seemed like they were still going strong. 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:58.800 I mean as late as June twenty fifth, that was 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.480 their nineteenth wedding. Animis Nicole Kidman put up a very 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.360 sweet black and white photo of the two of them 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.080 and alongside it said happy anniversary baby with a red heart. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.119 So you know, that was just three months ago, and 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.040 CNN is reporting and another news outlet I saw competitively 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.840 said they confirmed that the two have been living apart 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.560 this summer, So we don't know what happened. And another 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.119 question is do we get to know? Why do we 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.000 feel like we have the right to know. I know 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.240 we followed them, and I know we've shared along in 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.560 their journey, but it doesn't mean I think we get 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:35.520 into this trap as consumers of entertainment that somehow these 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.800 people aren't human that somehow these people owe something to us, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.679 that they owe us an explanation, and having been on 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.800 the receiving end of that's it's a really, really tough 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.879 spot in an already difficult moment in your life. This 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:50.640 has got to be probably one of the toughest things. 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.719 And I know Nicole Kidman went through a very public, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.960 difficult divorce with Tom Cruise as well, but this is 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.600 tough when you've got teenage girls who are deeply hurt 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.199 by this and are probably trying to figure out what 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.639 their new normal is. To have all this speculation and 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.840 all this conversation, it's tough. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.760 It's so hard. I just feel for everyone involved. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:13.680 Well, I don't to that point, and a lot of 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:18.320 celebrities get it, and there is a balance what your 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:23.240 obligation is to your fans, to the world and sometimes 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.200 I mean, we just saw Selena Gomez and Denny Blanc 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:29.480 will do this over the weekend, yes, where they put 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.200 it out, We shared it with you, and that's fine 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.639 if they wanted to. If they don't want to, that's fine. 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.440 But a lot of they get that my fans are 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:39.520 curious about me in my life, and I'm going to 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.800 let you in on this when it's difficult, like this, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.639 when it's now the news is negative, but now the 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:49.560 news is bad. I'm not mad if you now want 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.240 to pull back and just be private and not share 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.879 this thing bandful. But I think there does you talk 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.280 about an obligation people, There is not one. I think 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.760 oftentimes we hear people say it what you want to 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.760 share everything in the good times, and then you get 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.960 mad at us for also being interested in your bad times. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.280 I get that to a certain degree, but I think 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.800 also reasonable humans can say, I get why you don't 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:15.720 want to talk about this, and it's okay. Talk to 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:17.400 me when you feel good. 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:18.360 Yeah, if you. 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.000 Think about it as a friend of yours or a 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.040 best friend of yours, you don't want to pry and 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.720 push too hard when you see someone going through something painful. 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.760 In time, if they want to share it, you'll be 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.680 there to hear it and to commiserate. But until then 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.120 it's on them to say what they want to say, 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.520 when they want to say it. But we were talking 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.960 before we went to the break about just how incredible 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.280 these two individuals are just in terms of their art, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.320 and you were going through Nicole Kidman's movies and forgetting 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.120 some of her incredible and even if they weren't necessarily 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.000 film success, it's just movies we love. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.119 I forgot about the Ricardos that was fairly reason. But 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.680 she got an Oscar nomination for playing Lucil Ball, right, 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.000 I totally forgot. You've forgot that was there. 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:02.520