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Speaker 1: The Charlie kirkshow starts Now, I.

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Speaker 2: Think the campaign was hard.

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Speaker 1: Do you think what President Trump went.

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Speaker 3: Through was hard?

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Speaker 4: And it was?

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Speaker 3: The road ahead will not be easy. I can attest

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Speaker 3: personally that in my work as the Director of National Intelligence,

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Speaker 3: I feel the same frustration that I see many of

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Speaker 3: I feel this frustration every single day. We are pushing hard,

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Speaker 3: know that they are pushing hard back.

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Speaker 1: The left is panicked.

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Speaker 5: Why because you aren't playing by their rules anymore. They

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Speaker 5: They want you to stay in your lane. Little did

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Speaker 5: go right through them. You all stand unapologetically for free

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Speaker 5: speech in the places that they thought they owned.

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Speaker 6: Tonight, I'm talking to you.

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Speaker 1: We got the.

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Speaker 6: Most secure border in the history of this nation, in

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Speaker 6: their history. Early Grayson done ninety six percent that these

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Speaker 6: ninety six percent less people are coming, We're ninety six

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Speaker 6: percent less people are coming how many women are being

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Speaker 6: great by the cartels, how many children are dying journey,

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Speaker 2: So you know he's not a communist either, right, So

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Speaker 7: Says he wants to sees the means of production, but

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Speaker 2: He's not authentic.

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Speaker 7: Do you know how I know he's not a communist.

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Speaker 3: His teeth.

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Speaker 8: You gotta check out his teeth. They're not just white,

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Speaker 8: they're toilet bowl white. You're whiter than Joe Biden's. And

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Speaker 8: we've seen Joe Biden's teeth. Right, you don't get away.

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Speaker 8: You don't get that sort of color of teeth without capitalism.

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Speaker 8: That's cosmetic dentistry, that's zoom, that's veneers, it's capitalism.

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Speaker 2: He's a fraud, he's a phrony.

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Speaker 7: We all know that.

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Speaker 9: We're going back to gender neutral, color blind, merit based

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Speaker 1: We don't do politics. I don't care.

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Speaker 9: In my formations. I mean, I have my political views.

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Speaker 9: But I don't care in my formation. If you're a

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Speaker 10: What do I think about amnesty for farm workers? I

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Speaker 11: Are you joking?

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Speaker 10: We have like sixty million illegal aliens in the country.

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Speaker 10: The country bears no resemblance to the country I grew

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Speaker 1: Be who you are.

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Speaker 12: Don't pretend you're a lefty in order to win any

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Speaker 1: He's not worth it.

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Speaker 12: Get your d on your paper because you refuse to

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Speaker 12: argue that capitalism is bad and wear it like a

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Speaker 12: badge of honor. Bring it with you into your job interview,

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Speaker 12: Don't say that you support flamed parenthood the way they

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Speaker 3: And that's how we.

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Speaker 1: Spread the good word. The youth delivered the White House

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Speaker 4: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 4: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve

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Speaker 4: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 4: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, radio stations across the country honored to be

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Speaker 1: with you as always were back in the Bitcoin dot

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Speaker 1: it's the exact opposite, insurer, I've never worked so hard

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Speaker 1: Part of it was that the grassroots had questions. The

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Speaker 1: even crazier. But we decided to push ourselves harder than

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Speaker 1: we believe the nation is at stake, the nation is

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Speaker 1: at in peril now. Plenty was said this last weekend

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows my opinion about the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble.

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Speaker 13: I can tell you that at this moment Germany massively,

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Speaker 13: There will be more.

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Speaker 11: President Trump is also threatening to punish Russia with tariffs

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Speaker 11: shock following a deadly shooting at a small rural church

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Speaker 11: he killed a seventy two year old mother and her

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Speaker 11: thirty four year old daughter. Two men were hit as

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Speaker 11: well and are reportedly fighting to recover at the hospital.

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Speaker 11: One of the victim's family members believes the shooter came

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Speaker 11: to the church looking for a woman he has three

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Speaker 11: the woman after starting to shoot. The guy is said

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Speaker 11: to have a history of mental health, drug and angry issues.

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Speaker 11: That's a great check off your headlines. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 11: Now let's get you back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Speaker 4: Sent American Maid and Darn proud of it the Charlie

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Speaker 4: Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, we have some videos going viral on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: In fact, Marina from our team on Turning Point USA

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Speaker 1: twenty million views. I was like, what are what is happening?

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Speaker 1: It's one of the ways we reach the next generation.

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Speaker 1: Can we show that picture of the Student Action Summit?

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Speaker 1: You don't want to know one of the reasons. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why we had seven thousand students in

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Speaker 1: reach them every day on TikTok. Right now, over seven

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Speaker 1: point five million businesses America are thriving on TikTok, businesses

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Speaker 1: that employee over more than twenty eight million people. But

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Speaker 1: Dano's Seasoning from Kentucky who use TikTok to reach new

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Speaker 1: success means jobs, support for families, stronger local economies because

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Speaker 1: when small businesses thrive on TikTok, so do the communities

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Speaker 1: around them. Learn more about TikTok's contribution to the US

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Speaker 1: economy at TikTok economic impact dot com. The stories you

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Speaker 1: guys can check it out right now. The stories behind

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Speaker 1: the stats go to TikTok economic impact dot Com. Portions

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Speaker 1: of our program are brought to in part by TikTok

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Speaker 1: Economic impact dot com. Okay, breaking news. President Trump did

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Speaker 1: a press conference this morning with the head of NATO

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Speaker 1: to announce that there is a little bit of an

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Speaker 1: arms deal. It's different than what Biden did, but let's

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Speaker 1: walk through the basics. First, Trump recently paused weaponshipments to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Also said he'd only send defensive weapons to avoid escalating

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Speaker 1: the war. But President Trump has apparently gotten very frustrated

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Speaker 1: with Russia, believing they're not serious about reaching a peace deal.

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Speaker 1: Let's start to get some tape about this, guys. As

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Speaker 1: as I go through some of the facts here, please

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Speaker 1: so today, in a press conference along with NATO Secretary

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Speaker 1: General Mark Rute, Trump said America will quote send the

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Speaker 1: best military equipment to other NATO members, including offensive weapons,

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Speaker 1: which they are free to transfer to Ukraine. Per President Trump,

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Speaker 1: we are just being an arms dealer selling to our

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Speaker 1: allies who can do whatever, who can do whatever. But

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Speaker 1: it's clear this is meant to be up to up

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Speaker 1: the ante against Russia. President Trump is also announced a

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Speaker 1: fifty day deadline for Russia to make peace or face

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent secondary tariffs, which apparently would be tariffs

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Speaker 1: on nations that buy Russian oil. Let's play cut two

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Speaker 1: eighty four.

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Speaker 14: Please, We've made a deal today where we are going

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Speaker 14: to be sending them weapons that they're going to be

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Speaker 14: paying for them. The United States will not be having

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Speaker 14: any payment. May we are not buying it, but we

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Speaker 14: will manufacture it and they're going to be paying for

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Speaker 14: our last meeting of a month ago is very successful

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Speaker 14: in that they agreed to five percent, which is more

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Speaker 14: than a trillion.

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Speaker 15: Dollars a year.

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Speaker 14: So they have a lot of money and they have

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Speaker 14: These are wealthy nations. They have a lot of money.

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Speaker 14: I want to do it.

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Speaker 16: They feel very strongly about it, and we feel strongly

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Speaker 16: about it too.

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Speaker 1: Now Here, the situation is a little bit different than

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Speaker 1: what Biden did. But I'm gonna give you my thoughts,

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Speaker 1: which is it's not a direct just weapon transfer to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: At least somebody is purchasing them. Now, we have to

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Speaker 1: make sure this actually ends up happening, and I believe

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Speaker 1: it will. So NATO or Europe is basically going to

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Speaker 1: be an intermediory arms dealer with the United States that

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Speaker 1: will buy the arms from the United States, hopefully generating

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Speaker 1: some revenue, and then bringing them and sending them to Ukraine. Now,

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Speaker 1: I want to see an end to this Ukrainian Russian war. Personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't want us to send any more arms to Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I want you, if you

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Speaker 1: agree with me in principle, what would you do if

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Speaker 1: you were President Trump. He's in a very difficult position here.

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Speaker 1: So let's walk through this, because I've done a lot

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Speaker 1: of thinking about this. So President Trump started by trying

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Speaker 1: to warm up the relationship between Vladimir Putin and America.

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Speaker 1: Good phone calls, kind of talking like more friendly. Remember

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden had that relationship dead, that relationship was dead

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Speaker 1: to rights. We didn't even have a back channel. And

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Speaker 1: right out of the gate there was a very bullish

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Speaker 1: trend and he gave Putin a huge leash. And there's

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Speaker 1: no better way to tick off President Trump. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: it would tick me off if I was in the chair,

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Speaker 1: would tick you off if you were president. Where you

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Speaker 1: have a great conversation with a foreign leader. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: everything's great, let's do a deal, and then boom, Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin is bombing churches on Palm Sunday, which did happen?

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Speaker 1: Now Russia will say, well, you know, there's been assassination

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Speaker 1: attempts against us, and we're responding in that capacity that regard, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a war. There's always I guess a couple sides

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Speaker 1: of this, but some open advice for Vladimir Putin. Don't

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Speaker 1: play Trump as a fool. This is not Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: this is not Barack Obama. And so President Trump has

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Speaker 1: tried outright diplomacy multiple times. Now. If you think about it,

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Speaker 1: President Trump does not want to see the Russian army

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Speaker 1: march all the way to Kiev on his watch. I

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Speaker 1: don't think anyone wants to see that that would not

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Speaker 1: be good. So it's a very difficult balance. It's a

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Speaker 1: very difficult balance because of course Ukraine has not been forthright.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is the greatest salesman since P. T. Barnum.

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Speaker 1: He shows up to America, you know, dressed like an

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Speaker 1: uppity foreigner in a black T shirt, and he ends

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Speaker 1: up with sixty billion dollars. I mean, Zelenski's the greatest

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Speaker 1: salesman we've ever seen. President Trump wants to see the

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Speaker 1: war end. He doesn't want to see the war lost.

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Speaker 1: And as someone who honestly I'm not I'm kind of like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see more arms to Ukraine. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've said that, repeat, I said it under Biden. I

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Speaker 1: Trump here. And I'm not just saying that because he's

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Speaker 1: a friend and I know him. And if you disagree

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Speaker 1: with me, then email me what you would do if

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Speaker 1: you were president, because this is not an easy one.

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Speaker 1: This one's a toughie. So President Donald Trump is doing

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Speaker 1: rationally the most important thing of which there is really

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Speaker 1: no downside in the pursuit of diplomacy if you think

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Speaker 1: about it, Vladimir Putin thinks that he understands domestic American politics.

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Speaker 1: Here's Vladimir Putin's perspective. He's not feeling Russian angst, as

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Speaker 1: his troops in the rural parts of Russia, not from

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Speaker 1: Moscow or Saint Petersburg, where the Russian elites or oligarchs live.

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Speaker 1: So it's basically very poor Chechenians that are dying in

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Speaker 1: the war and are just being used as cannon fodder

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Speaker 1: for Vladimir Putin's agenda. So Vladimir Putin is making a bet.

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Speaker 1: And here is the bet that Vladimir Putin is making.

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Speaker 1: He is betting that America does not have the stomach

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Speaker 1: to keep financing or to keep sending American weaponry. Almost

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Speaker 1: all of Vladimir Putin's political calculus is based around the

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Speaker 1: first principle that America domestically is done with this, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to seize on that and he's going to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of it. So President Donald Trump is saying, no,

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Speaker 1: your first principle is incorrect. Play cut two ninety four.

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Speaker 4: Will these be patriot missiles specifically or a patriot batteries

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Speaker 4: that you're planning, and.

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Speaker 17: When you win everything, patriots and all of them, it's

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Speaker 17: a full compliment with the batteries.

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Speaker 15: And when you expect him to arrive in the crisier, well,

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Speaker 15: the ones they have.

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Speaker 1: So President Donald Trump saying this is now as he

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Speaker 1: now has a leverage point against Vladimir Putin. Oh really,

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Speaker 1: mister Putin, you're gonna tell me that you want to

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Speaker 1: do a deal and you're starting to go bomb children's

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Speaker 1: hospitals or whatever. I mean again, it's a warm Ukraine's

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Speaker 1: doing stuff they shouldn't be doing. Russia's doing stuff they

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Speaker 1: It's so it's, by the way, it's a very confusing

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Speaker 1: war to follow. Seven thousand people died last week, and

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Speaker 1: our shoulders. We're gonna roll our eyes over all that.

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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump continues and cut two ninety three, saying

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Speaker 1: that he'll impose very severe tariffs of the one hundred

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Speaker 17: I'm disappointed in the President of Putin because I thought

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Speaker 17: if it doesn't seem to get there.

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Speaker 16: So based on that, we're going to be doing secondary

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Speaker 16: ters if we don't have a deal in fifty days.

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Speaker 17: It's very simple, and they'll be at one hundred percent.

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Speaker 17: And that's the way it is. That can be more simple,

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Speaker 17: but it's just the way it is. I hope we

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Speaker 1: Now. Here's the argument that some are making. They're saying

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Speaker 1: this is a problem for NATO or Europe to be

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Speaker 1: and America into this conflict. But I actually don't share

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Speaker 1: that view, and I think President Donald Trump has beyond

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Speaker 1: earned our confidence and our trust after what happened with Iran.

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Speaker 1: I think President Donald Trump has shown he does not

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Speaker 1: want a war against Russia. He does not want a

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Speaker 1: hot kinetic war. He doesn't and he didn't want one

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Speaker 1: against Iran. He doesn't want a quagmire. So I don't

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Speaker 1: share that view. Do I think that we could potentially

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Speaker 1: be stuck with a funding problem and a relentless kind

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Speaker 1: of armament problem. Yep, I could see that. Could I

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Speaker 1: see this war going on longer, then we would like it.

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Speaker 1: But let me repeat. If you are in my philosophical camp,

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Speaker 1: which I bet a lot of you are, and you're

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Speaker 1: kind of fatigued with the war in Ukraine, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to keep on financing it. You're kind of like,

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Speaker 1: what are you guys even fighting for another one hundred

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Speaker 1: extra miles so another five hundred thousand people can die?

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Speaker 1: What would you do differently? And if your answer is

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Speaker 1: a major geopolitical and political risk that Ukraine will no

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Speaker 1: longer exist as a country. Now, some people hold that view,

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Speaker 1: that is a firm view. Some people say that, hey,

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Speaker 1: if Russia wants it, Russia gets it. Now. The counter

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Speaker 1: to march all the way to Paris Now they're not.

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Speaker 1: Actually Article five will prevent him from even stepping foot

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Speaker 1: gonna march tanks through Warsaw and then next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: he'll be running Brussels. No, Ukraine is different. So the

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Speaker 1: or Paris or Madrid. The more important question is are

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Speaker 1: that is a very complicated question. Now are you okay

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Speaker 1: morally or do you want to involve militarily. I'm of

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Speaker 1: the opinion that this is not our fight and this

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Speaker 1: is not our war. But President Donald Trump has to

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Speaker 1: manage a global economy as well. He wants to keep

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Speaker 1: the dollar as the world reserve currency status. This is

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Speaker 1: not an easy one. We need to aim for a ceasefire,

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Speaker 1: and I think President Donald Trump has that as an

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Speaker 1: ultimate destination. And I also think President Donald Trump dismisses

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Speaker 1: some of the more radical clamoring people, oh yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna roll tanks all the way into progue, No he's not.

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Speaker 1: Just just stop it. That's not gonna happen. Will he

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Speaker 1: potentially take over Ukraine? And would it be a gut

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Speaker 1: punch to the European psyche and to continental Europe. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and so he's threading the needle. And so Putin basically

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Speaker 1: is not taking what Trump was saying seriously because Putin

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Speaker 1: was saying now, he didn't say it, but he was

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Speaker 1: acting as if, well, Trump, you have no cards. Well

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Speaker 1: now Trump does have some cards, actually, and that's why

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Speaker 1: he's doing the full compliment. Putin may be misreading the

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Speaker 1: that wants no involvement in Ukraine. That's why I think

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Speaker 1: Putin's first principle is incorrect. And so Donald Trump says, oh,

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Speaker 1: you think you understand where we're at, Well, now I'm

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Speaker 1: doing a full compliment for Ukraine. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: negotiate now, mister Putin. So I have all the confidence

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Speaker 1: that President Donald Trump is going to keep us out

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Speaker 1: of any sort of kinetic dragging us into it. I

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Speaker 1: have no concern whatsoever. The reason why Iran I had

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Speaker 1: Why with Iran is because we didn't know the rationality

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Speaker 1: the other thing. Russia does not want to hot war

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Speaker 1: against America. But now President Donald Trump This is key.

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Speaker 1: The aim should be the ceasefire, and I have faith

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Speaker 1: President Trump now has the cards to get that done.

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Speaker 1: Be right back.

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Speaker 16: To that thing, being big, big big could have done

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Speaker 16: it all day long. Broke to the record by one

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Speaker 16: I told the story. You had this great group of

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Speaker 16: young ladies and they grew up with each other because

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Speaker 16: She looked left and she saw the same girl she

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Speaker 16: She looks at her right. She saw the same girls,

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Speaker 16: but there was this giant standing right next to her,

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Speaker 16: transitioned and she was never seen her before. And when

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Speaker 16: he had a little lunch, and then he came back

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Speaker 16: and watched the rest of the young ladies finisher. The

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Speaker 16: whole thing is crazy, and it's so demeaning to women.

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Speaker 16: It's so demeaning to women, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, welcome back. Email us as always Freedom at

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Speaker 1: Charliekirk dot com and subscribe to our podcast. Let's see

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Speaker 1: here I want to do we have a partner and

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Speaker 1: tell you about or no, okay, I want to now

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Speaker 1: get to another story here. Actually, let's just play some

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Speaker 1: of the best moments from the student actions while it's

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Speaker 1: still fresh. We had some amazing speakers. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we have our student actions some at Strawppole results coming

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Speaker 1: out soon. Let's play cut two forty six from Tom Holman,

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest accomplishments from this administration, it needs

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Speaker 1: to be repeated on a daily basis, is how now

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Speaker 1: we now have a hermetically sealed border and the invasion

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Speaker 1: is over. It is a incredible accomplishment. Please cut two

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Speaker 6: But I'm talking to you. We got the most secure

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Speaker 6: border in the history of this nation, in their history.

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Speaker 6: Early rumor gresson down ninety six percent. Then these ninety

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Speaker 6: six percent less people are coming. When ninety six percent

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Speaker 6: less people are coming, how many women are being raped

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Speaker 6: by the cartels, how many children are dying making that journey.

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Speaker 6: How many pounds of fat and aw is to get

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Speaker 6: into the country kill American.

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Speaker 1: What they've been able to accomplish, What President Trump has

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Speaker 1: been able to do at the southern border, He can

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Speaker 1: golf for the next couple of years and still call

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Speaker 1: this presidency a success to stop the invasion of foreigners

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Speaker 1: into the United States of America. Now it's time also

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Speaker 1: for mass deportations, and we are getting mass deportations. We

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Speaker 1: was an honor to have our good friend Pete Hegseth,

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, sect deaf man. I've seen motorcids in

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Speaker 1: my life. That is the closest thing to a presidential

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Speaker 1: motor kid. When Pete hegg Seth pulled up to our event,

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Speaker 1: he came in with forty three people. It's amazing. But

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Speaker 1: for a fortitude, excellent resolve. Here's Pete Hegseeth at the

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Speaker 1: Department of Defense. One of the best rated speeches, play

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Speaker 1: cut two forty eight.

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Speaker 9: We're going back to gender neutral, color blind, merit based

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Speaker 9: performance standards. We do readiness, we do accountability.

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Speaker 18: We do war fighting, we do lethality.

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Speaker 9: We don't do social experience experiments.

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Speaker 2: We don't do politics.

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Speaker 9: I don't care in my formations. I mean, I have

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Speaker 9: my political views and you have yours, But I don't

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Speaker 9: care in my formation. If you're a Republican or a Democrat,

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Speaker 9: do you love the country? Have you sworn ill to

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Speaker 9: defend the constitution?

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Speaker 1: And you know, we had dozens of young men, I

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Speaker 1: think some young ladies, but mostly young men that said

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Speaker 1: They have hit their recruitment goals so early they need

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Speaker 1: the recruitment goals. And under Biden, the recruitments were record

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Speaker 1: lows recruitment. Military recruitment is a poll test of national morale.

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Speaker 1: When you are hitting your national recruitment numbers, when you

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Speaker 1: indicator for national revival, for national revitalization. We also hosted

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Speaker 1: a debate Josh Hammer versus Dave Smith about Israel, and

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Speaker 1: I think we're going to be airing part of that

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Speaker 1: on Real America's Voice. We should post that sooner rather

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Speaker 1: We have all sorts of incredible content and we have

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer coming up an hour two. So actually, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to spend time on that because we'll do

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Speaker 1: that with Josh Hammer will kind of go through that.

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Speaker 1: But let's go to this one here, which also went

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Speaker 1: very very viral. I could tell you that which is

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson smashing the push for amnesty Play cut two

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Speaker 10: What do I think about amnesty for farm workers? I

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Speaker 10: think it's the most grotesque.

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Speaker 18: Thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 11: Are you joking?

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Speaker 1: Amnesty for farmer?

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Speaker 10: We have like sixty million illegal aliens in the country.

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Speaker 10: The country bears no resemblance to the country I grew

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Speaker 10: up in, and it's not better, it's worse. So I'm

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Speaker 10: not gonna sit for another lecture from anybody telling me

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Speaker 10: we need to import more people to write code, or

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Speaker 10: pick grapes or any other task. Period it hasn't worked.

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Speaker 10: The country hasn't gotten richer, it hasn't become more unified.

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Speaker 10: Those words should burn on the tongue of anyone who

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Speaker 1: How dare you talk like that?

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Speaker 2: Amnesty?

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Speaker 1: This was the most successful student action summer in history.

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Speaker 1: We made a lot of headlines, We had a lot

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Speaker 1: of spirited debate, a lot of discussion. Was a phenomenal success.

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Speaker 1: Email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. Subscribe to our

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Speaker 1: podcast second, how We're coming up? Okay, everybody, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Email us as always, Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. We

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Speaker 1: podcast That is the Charlie Kirkshow podcast page. Joining us

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Speaker 1: now is Alexmarlow, Editor in chief of Breitbart dot Com,

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Speaker 1: host of The Alexmarlow Show. Alex, great to see you.

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Speaker 1: We were just with each other a couple days ago

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Speaker 1: in Tampa, Florida. Remind our audience walk them through what

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Speaker 1: this event was like for you.

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Speaker 7: It was an amazing event for me. Charlie, congratulations are you.

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Speaker 7: Guys are the centerpiece of the political universe right now,

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Speaker 7: and that's the point. We're a free Ida, free speech country.

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Speaker 7: We should be a movement that is routinely checking in

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Speaker 7: and where we stand on various issues. It's one of

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Speaker 7: the things I admire most about President Trump, and it's

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Speaker 7: why I was so enthusiastic about guys like you know,

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Speaker 7: Robert Kennedy, not a traditional Republican, being a part of

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Speaker 7: Trump's cabinet. It is the spirit of challenging ourselves to

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Speaker 7: be sharp on all the ideas, and your conference has

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Speaker 7: just become the absolute nucleus for that.

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Speaker 2: So it's there.

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Speaker 7: Is if you go to these things and you just

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Speaker 7: want it to be combaiot agreement all the time.

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Speaker 2: Then you're just being so lazy.

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Speaker 7: And that's some of the vibe I'm getting online is

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Speaker 7: just outrage that you guys would have discussions about certain things.

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Speaker 7: Just no, no, thank you, please stop count me out

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Speaker 7: of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So what would you have to say to people

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Speaker 1: that they saw a speaker they didn't like and then

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Speaker 1: they try to blame me for having that speaker because

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Speaker 1: goes all it's all across, you know, it's on both

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Speaker 1: every possible garden variety of that. How should we approach

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Speaker 1: that question of platforming and of running an event like this?

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Speaker 1: You have something to say about this running Brightbart as

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Speaker 1: long as you have, please, I love your commentary on this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to never want authority on this thing.

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you. I can only speak for

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Speaker 2: myself here, Charlie.

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Speaker 7: But once you tell me I cannot have a person

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Speaker 7: that I've chosen as editor in chief of Bright Part

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Speaker 7: to platform on my platform, I have no other choice

867
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Speaker 7: but to have them again over and over again. So

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Speaker 7: you're actually hurting your own cause by suggesting that you

869
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Speaker 7: can't have X, Y or Z person speak, especially if

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Speaker 7: you use in a public way, because then I don't

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Speaker 7: have any other moves. My only move is if we're

872
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Speaker 7: playing chess here is to platform them again and again

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Speaker 7: and again. And so if you really want to get

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Speaker 7: through to me, that's just not the way to do it.

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Speaker 7: And yet I did see that a lot online, Charlie

876
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Speaker 7: telling you, well, we can never do this again.

877
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Speaker 2: Well, then what's your reaction.

878
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Speaker 7: Your reaction is probably going to be, well, now they're

879
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Speaker 7: just going to be the centerpiece of the whole thing

880
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Speaker 7: because you can't tell me what to do. Charlie, you

881
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Speaker 7: didn't do this for ten twelve years, but you've done

882
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Speaker 7: turning point to have people chirping online to say that

883
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Speaker 7: to try to control what you're doing in your platforming

884
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Speaker 7: and which voices you want a feature, that's not why

885
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Speaker 7: you built this. So I know this is someone who

886
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Speaker 7: built something similar and was told the same stuff. So

887
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Speaker 7: I find it to be something. It'll blow over, people

888
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Speaker 7: will calm down. But overall, the vibe of the event

889
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Speaker 7: was very exciting, and I think it is wevery vibrant

890
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Speaker 7: movement with a lot of super interesting, smart people who

891
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Speaker 7: were constantly challenging each other to bring the heat. I

892
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Speaker 7: watched the whole debate last night on the plane with

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Speaker 7: josh Hammer.

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Speaker 1: Now, what'd you gave that?

895
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Speaker 7: They're so they're both so sharp. It's like, I agree

896
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Speaker 7: with Josh way more than I agree with Dave. But

897
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Speaker 7: they both had commanding presences. There was the right amount

898
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Speaker 7: I think of emotion because it's an emotional topic without

899
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Speaker 7: it being too emotional. And they were bringing all this

900
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Speaker 7: detail and facts and that I didn't know all of it,

901
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Speaker 7: and I read this stuff twenty four to seven, so

902
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Speaker 7: I thought it was a total treat. And it's not

903
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Speaker 7: something you're getting anywhere else. So why are we saying, oh,

904
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Speaker 7: this is unique, this original, No one else is doing this.

905
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Speaker 7: Oh well, then let's just stop doing it. No, that's

906
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Speaker 7: the exact wrong way to approach media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and honestly, I don't want to give too much

908
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Speaker 1: credence because I think the criticism rises to the surface.

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Speaker 1: The audience loved it. I've gotten hundreds of hundreds of

910
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Speaker 1: messages and thousands of comments because I'm moderated. I think

911
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Speaker 1: I have very strong views on this stuff, and I'm

912
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Speaker 1: very much in Joshua's view. I think Dave brought up

913
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Speaker 1: some points on the neo conservatism stuff that I'm fully

914
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Speaker 1: in alignment, but as anti Trump stuff obviously I don't

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Speaker 1: agree with. But what would you say when people say, well,

916
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Speaker 1: you can't platform that person even though it's in the

917
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Speaker 1: in the scope of a debate.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I completely disagree with that, And I'll tell you why,

919
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Speaker 7: because I learned so much about Dave from this, because

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Speaker 7: it's the most i've heard him speak, And to be

921
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Speaker 7: honest with you, I didn't find his arguments overly persuasive,

922
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Speaker 7: but I felt like that was actually comforting to me

923
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Speaker 7: that I felt like, as someone who's mostly pro is

924
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Speaker 7: reel very much as Zionist looking at this debate, I

925
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Speaker 7: did not feel overly intimidated, but I got to understand

926
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Speaker 7: where he's coming from. I'm very empathetic and sympathetic to

927
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Speaker 7: someone who's coming from the sort of rom Paul wing

928
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Speaker 7: where rom Paul's invindicated again and again over the years.

929
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Speaker 7: And if that's sort of your baseline and you're just

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Speaker 7: going to assume that, basically, I'm taking that he's my

931
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Speaker 7: north star and then I'm gonna pick and choose from there.

932
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Speaker 7: It helps me understand where people are coming from. How

933
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Speaker 7: am I going to understand where he's coming from unless

934
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Speaker 7: if I'm not one to seek out his content, unless

935
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Speaker 7: someone like you is moderating a form like this. It

936
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Speaker 7: just it makes perfect sense to me. And the key

937
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Speaker 7: to media, the key to getting people's attention right now

938
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Speaker 7: is you have to do something unique, you have to

939
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Speaker 7: do something original, and where else you're getting a debate

940
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Speaker 7: like this, I haven't seen one in forever.

941
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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, and by the way, it is one

942
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Speaker 1: that our students especially are seeking clarity on. Yeah, they

943
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Speaker 1: don't really know how they stand on these issues. They

944
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Speaker 1: don't really oh, because they're told one thing and what

945
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Speaker 1: I was, what I was. The biggest takeaway is like Charlie,

946
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Speaker 1: thank you, I have more clarity of how now I'm

947
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Speaker 1: going to think about this. Their their mind is not

948
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Speaker 1: going to be made up in an instant. These things

949
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Speaker 1: are culminating over periods of time. And again, we have

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer coming on later in the show. I encourage

951
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Speaker 1: everyone to watch it. It's on our YouTube channel, we're

952
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Speaker 1: posting it on our podcast, that's on our x feed.

953
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Speaker 1: It already has millions of views. The way I moderated though,

954
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Speaker 1: because I watch a lot of debates, and I participate

955
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Speaker 1: in a lot of debates. What ends up happening is

956
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Speaker 1: debate or a and debated b start talking past each

957
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Speaker 1: other and you end up discussing a nuanced portion of

958
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Speaker 1: the rabbit hole that nobody in the audience cares about.

959
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Speaker 1: So they were talking about like something and like a

960
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Speaker 1: prime minister of Israel in two thousand and two, like guys,

961
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Speaker 1: is no one knows what you are talking about, okay,

962
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Speaker 1: or the Barracks bombing in nineteen eighty three. So it's

963
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Speaker 1: the moderator's job to try to bring it back into

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Speaker 1: a place where the audience can actually follow it. Otherwise

965
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Speaker 1: they're like, no, the sixteenth point you made is incorrect. No,

966
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Speaker 1: my sixteenth point is right, and you miss number one,

967
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Speaker 1: two or three. Yeah, And so I also, I can't

968
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Speaker 1: stand when you know, there's interruptions of debates, and it's

969
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Speaker 1: just it's very important to try to keep decorum. And Alex,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you say, though, this makes it a lot different

971
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Speaker 1: than the Democrats. Would you would you ever find a

972
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Speaker 1: Democrat conference where they would have a debate like this

973
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Speaker 1: on in front? I don't think so, right, So, if.

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Speaker 7: You want to go back into my history in the

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Speaker 7: conservative movement. I've been think I don't think it's overly

976
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Speaker 7: I know that it's self praise, but I've been I

977
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Speaker 7: think had some of the most longevity and effectiveness in

978
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Speaker 7: the conservative.

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Speaker 2: Wh'vement of the last few decades.

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Speaker 7: It all started when I was UC Berkeley and I

981
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Speaker 7: thought I was a libertarian. But u C Berkeley there's

982
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Speaker 7: only one conservative club, the College Republicans, and I just

983
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Speaker 7: showed up because I thought, I think I'm a political guy.

984
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Speaker 2: I think I'm a conservative.

985
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go and they would do debates amongst themselves.

986
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Speaker 7: They would have the Ron Paul Libertarians, who were sort

987
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Speaker 7: of no war, very limited government, and then you would

988
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Speaker 7: have the George Bush style Republicans, who were huge government.

989
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Speaker 2: Every war.

990
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Speaker 7: They agreed on nothing. And yet somehow we were in

991
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Speaker 7: the same club. And I found that to be utterly fascinating.

992
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Speaker 2: And so if that's.

993
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Speaker 7: The moment we're in, it's fine with me. It's I'm

994
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Speaker 7: a pro Israel guy. I tend to give the Israel

995
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Speaker 7: to benefit the doubt on a personal level, but I

996
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Speaker 7: don't mind being challenged.

997
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Speaker 2: And if you do, then grow up. Stop being a baby.

998
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Speaker 1: Yes, and doesn't it make us stronger. And look, I

999
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Speaker 1: have a lot of sympathy for the rom Paul stuff.

1000
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Speaker 1: There's so much stuff that Ron Paul said that. What

1001
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Speaker 1: it did is it made me at least reconci a

1002
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Speaker 1: certain foreign policy doctrine and dogma. Definitely made me less

1003
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Speaker 1: neo conservative. But I don't agree with everything wrong. Paulse

1004
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Speaker 1: id to legalize all drugs and you know no that

1005
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: that stuff is silly. But I want to just kind

1006
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Speaker 1: of get to a point here, which is that here's

1007
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Speaker 1: a question, then, Alex, then where do we draw the line?

1008
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Speaker 18: Who?

1009
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Speaker 1: Then do we not platform? What criteria? Then would you submit? Again,

1010
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm running the event. You know you're you're a great advisor.

1011
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: What what would a matrix criteria be for such a thing?

1012
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: Here's where my criteria is, either you're a good faith

1013
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: actor or bad faith actor. It's very easy, it's self

1014
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: evident to use a Jeffersonian phrase. If you're a self

1015
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: evidently bad faith actor, you're not You're not going to

1016
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Speaker 1: get a platform from me or an organization out.

1017
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Speaker 7: Yeah, here's the thing I would say to you in

1018
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Speaker 7: private triial. Try to say it exactly the same in

1019
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 7: public as I would say in private. A lot of

1020
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Speaker 7: your power, if not all of your power, is because

1021
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Speaker 7: you've built a lot of credibility within conservative politics, which

1022
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 7: is legitimate power, and that when you weigh in on

1023
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Speaker 7: something politically, when you're leading your herd somewhere politically, it

1024
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Speaker 7: makes a difference. And you don't want to waste that

1025
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Speaker 7: for just for a few extra clicks.

1026
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: And we're in a media.

1027
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 7: Economy where attention seeking behavior is rewarded right now, whether

1028
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 7: it's good or bad attention, it is rewarded in the marketplace,

1029
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 7: in this sort of podcast marketplace that we're in, and

1030
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 7: you have to pay attention to people who if they're

1031
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 7: tipping a little bit into the I'm just trying to

1032
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 7: get attention and clicks at the expense of substantive arguments,

1033
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 7: at the expense of seeking out truth and what is

1034
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Speaker 7: productive for the movement, not just over the next three weeks,

1035
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Speaker 7: but over the next thirty years. Then I feel like

1036
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Speaker 7: it's probably not worth the time. But that said, you

1037
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 7: can always check yourself by trying something new. And I

1038
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 7: always remind myself of this at Bright Part News. If

1039
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 7: i feel like I'm too set my ways, I'll try

1040
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 7: to do something different just in order to try to

1041
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Speaker 7: challenge myself and see what it's like and to test waters.

1042
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Speaker 2: So you're free to do that.

1043
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Speaker 7: You should feel boldened to make mistakes, but overall you

1044
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 7: feel like you could be erouting some of the trust

1045
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 7: people have built in you.

1046
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Speaker 2: Politically, Then I feel like, here's about.

1047
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Speaker 1: Again, this is for me to decide because I'm in

1048
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Speaker 1: charge of YEA and yeah, they can say whatever they want.

1049
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Speaker 1: I have to make the decision. Are you seeking to

1050
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: be a statesman or a philosopher or are you a

1051
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: performer or an actor, which in the ancient virtues were

1052
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: the lowest of all the ancient virtues. So if again,

1053
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Speaker 1: if we have the appearance over lots of period of

1054
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Speaker 1: time that you're just like trying to basically be a

1055
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Speaker 1: court jester and you're a bad faith person to just

1056
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Speaker 1: try to get clicks and there's not deeply held beliefs

1057
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Speaker 1: or can be explained with prudence or wisdom or at

1058
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Speaker 1: least to have some sort of admission or reconciliation towards wisdom,

1059
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Speaker 1: then you know you're not gonna come on stage criticizing

1060
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Speaker 1: as hard building as hard coalitions are hard, the student

1061
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Speaker 1: actions some it was a major success. Alex Marler continues after.

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Speaker 16: Booth, I said, wait a minute, give me a tank

1063
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Speaker 16: of guess and I'll fly it to Pakistan, or I'll

1064
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Speaker 16: fly it to someplace, or I'll fly back home. Why

1065
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Speaker 16: is it cheap or it's just cheaper. That's when I

1066
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Speaker 16: realized the guy was grossly incompetent. Okay, tell me it's

1067
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Speaker 16: cheaper to leave a plane than it is that the

1068
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Speaker 16: place goes to one hundred and fifty million apiece.

1069
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Speaker 2: Let's leave it, sir.

1070
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Speaker 16: It's just great. And they did. They left all. You

1071
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Speaker 16: know they I was taking everything, but they left it behind.

1072
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Speaker 16: But when you look at what happened and compare that

1073
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Speaker 16: to what we have now, we have a We have

1074
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Speaker 16: a real great machine. I rebuilt the military my first term.

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Speaker 19: And we left.

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Speaker 16: We left some of it to Afghanistan and the Taliban,

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Speaker 16: and they have their parades. I hate those parades. Every

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Speaker 16: year they have a parade wheeling down our equipment on

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Speaker 16: some very unattractive street that's, you know, their fifth avenue.

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Speaker 16: They show our equipment going down just it's getting older

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Speaker 16: and older. But I hate to say it, but we're

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Speaker 16: going to be working together to protect our children with

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Speaker 16: the grace of God and blessing of Providence, we will

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Speaker 16: lead our country to heights that it's never seen before.

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Speaker 16: I think we're going to be more successful in many ways,

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Speaker 16: but I think we're going to be more successful than

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Speaker 16: we've ever been. And I do think this if we didn't.

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Speaker 19: Catch it, Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 1: Email us as always predam at Charliekirk dot com and

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Speaker 1: subscribe to our podcast. Alex, you were around the conference

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Speaker 1: in Tampa. What would you look at Bitcoin dot com studio?

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Speaker 1: What did you learn from the students. What did open

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Speaker 1: your eyes about how they're feeling, what they're sensing from

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Speaker 1: a political standpoint, Because it was buzzing with youthful energy

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Speaker 1: that which I wish most of our leaders would take

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Speaker 1: time to seek to understand.

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Speaker 7: Smartlowe, Yeah, it's really important to understand. This is these

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Speaker 7: so they want to be reached, they want to be

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Speaker 7: talked to, they want to be respected, and one of

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Speaker 7: the reasons why is because they're leaving these online lives

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Speaker 7: and they don't get that physical interaction. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: just seeing people is such a pleasure for them to

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Speaker 7: see the people who are their favorite characters in the

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Speaker 7: Because this is Charlie, we know we're witnessing the greatest

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Speaker 7: movie of all time, the Trump era of American politics.

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Speaker 7: We've never seen anything like it. It's the most entertaining

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Speaker 7: thing ever. And these are their characters, and they see

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Speaker 7: them show up in person and they're talking to them

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Speaker 7: and tailoring messages to them.

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Speaker 2: It just really delights them.

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Speaker 7: So it's really important for them to do this, and

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Speaker 7: I'm glad that you keep getting.

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Speaker 2: These great rosters of speakers. But they're also so much smarter.

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Speaker 7: Than I mean, I'm not exactly an old guy, but

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Speaker 7: when I was on the campuses twenty years ago, eighteen

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Speaker 7: years ago, whatever it was, I didn't have a fraction

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Speaker 7: of the information is the normal person does who's just

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Speaker 7: going around these campuses because of the Internet, because of

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Speaker 7: the accessed information. So these are incredibly smart people and

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Speaker 7: they're very mouldable and so but they have to be

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Speaker 7: expected too because they like agency, they like dignity. So

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Speaker 7: I mean, it really is terrific to get to understand

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Speaker 7: what's important to them and what interests them and what

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Speaker 7: draws them into the political fraight.

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Speaker 1: What would you say, uh, Because there's like a couple

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Speaker 1: major issues Aid to Ukraine, mass deportation, slash some not

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Speaker 1: President Trump whispering amnesty. What were the what were some

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Speaker 1: of the biggest issues that you were hearing about. I

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Speaker 1: know Epstein got a lot of attention. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk much about that. Okay, I think we've exhausted it.

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Speaker 1: I told people in the audience, like, I am trusting

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Speaker 1: my friends the administration to precede the balls in their court.

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Speaker 1: I Cash, you're the man, Bongino, you're the man, Pam,

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Speaker 1: great friend, balls in your court. Take it, run with

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Speaker 1: it the full faith. I think all that all that

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Speaker 1: is said is needed to be said this last week,

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Speaker 1: and it's just repeating the same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 1: But what else, What was like the most shocking thing

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Speaker 1: that you wish an average older conservative could learn from

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Speaker 1: what you saw at the event or the conference.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but I think the Epstein thing, what's in about

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Speaker 7: it is not is that that's worth mentioning. Is that

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Speaker 7: the transparency thing is is a big deal. And authenticity

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Speaker 7: and feeling like you can trust the government is a

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Speaker 7: big deal. And over promising and undering under delivering is

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Speaker 7: going to affect newer voters to the coalition. And I'll

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Speaker 7: tell you, Charlie from my audience. I had put a

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Speaker 7: lot of cold water that we were ever going to

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Speaker 7: get great answers on Epstein. I figured they were either

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Speaker 7: too complicated to release and they could really interfere with

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Speaker 7: the lives of innocent people, or there wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 7: as bad as people thought.

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Speaker 19: Is.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we knew as bad obviously, but that stuff

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Speaker 7: was out there, so I was always very skeptical we

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Speaker 7: get much. But it's the over promising from certain members

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Speaker 7: of the administration that things were going to come out

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Speaker 7: that's the real problem.

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Speaker 2: And that's the point.

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Speaker 7: Is the authenticity and the transparency really makes a big deal.

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Speaker 7: They do not want to go and fight useless wars

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Speaker 7: for other countries, that is flat out, and that's why

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Speaker 7: it is. I think that's a very important pressure because

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Speaker 7: I think the way Trump handled the Iron situation was perfect,

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Speaker 7: but I think gay World War three or ground war

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Speaker 7: is totally it would be intolerable to the whole nation.

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Speaker 2: So it's good to see that.

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Speaker 7: And I do think there's a deeper concern that the

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Speaker 7: system is rigged to favor a few people the very

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Speaker 7: very top, and that is something that the right is

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Speaker 7: not I don't think we're grappling with that. And you

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Speaker 7: brought this up as much as anyone, Charlie, that if

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Speaker 7: we don't figure out a way to message on this issue,

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Speaker 7: we run the risk of seeing the mam Donni's rise,

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Speaker 7: who have terrible ideas. But you say it with a

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Speaker 7: smiley face, and maybe you say it persuasively and it

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Speaker 7: could get through to.

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Speaker 2: Some low information people.

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Speaker 1: And if we do not have more young people be

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Speaker 1: able to own homes and stop renting, political radicalism will rise.

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Speaker 1: Political radicalism will set in to the nation and the country.

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Speaker 1: Final question here, Alex Marlow Biden auto pen. You've covered

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Speaker 1: Biden a lot. I got to let you riff on this.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the This is exactly what we thought we

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Speaker 7: were getting when we had heard that. This is the

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Speaker 7: best case scenario in terms of people who think the

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Speaker 7: Biden administration was basically illegitimate. When you see that he

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Speaker 7: did not approve many of the name's pardoned with the autopen.

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Speaker 7: This is where the legal apparatus, if worked effectively, can

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Speaker 7: start unraveling parts of his administration, because if we can

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Speaker 7: determine that was in fact illegal, it should be the

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Speaker 7: president's supposed to sign this stuff whoever came with his

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Speaker 7: autopen it is for certain things. For certain things, maybe

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Speaker 7: they'll determine it was okay. But for certain things this

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Speaker 7: is absolutely illegitimate. This could open up some of those

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Speaker 7: investigations to try to get justice for President Trump and

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Speaker 7: for the American people who.

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Speaker 2: Got railroaded by this guy.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not surprised, but I'm very heartened that we

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Speaker 7: now have attack vectors in terms of trying to unravel

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Speaker 7: some of the horrible stuff Biden did.

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Speaker 1: Alex Marlow check it out. Breitbart dot com does excellent work, Alex,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Charlie email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. So yesterday

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Speaker 1: we hosted a now very viral debate of Israel topic

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say Israel verse whatever, it was just

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Speaker 1: Israel with Josh Hammer and with Dave Smith. I want

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Speaker 1: you all to check it out. It's on our YouTube page,

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Speaker 1: it is on our x feed. We're going to post

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Speaker 1: it actually as a podcast, so I want you guys

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Speaker 1: to check it out. We're going to recap part of

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Speaker 1: it with Josh Hammer, as I think it was the

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Speaker 1: first to bed ever moderated. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 11: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice News break. I'm

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Speaker 11: Terrence Bates. You're looking live at the White House where

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Speaker 11: President Trump is set to participate in this Faith Office

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Speaker 11: lunch and it's set to get underway here momentarily. We'll

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Speaker 11: try to take you there live the moment it happens.

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Speaker 11: You can see everyone simply waiting for the President to arrive.

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Speaker 11: In the meantime, the President also hosting NATO's Secretary General

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Speaker 11: there at the White House. The two leaders discussing everything

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Speaker 11: from sending weapons to Ukraine, to negotiating with Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 11: and trying to end the war between Russia and Ukraine,

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Speaker 11: to the success of the recent Natal summit.

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Speaker 13: This is really big, This is really big. You called

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Speaker 13: me on Thursday that you have taken a decision, and

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Speaker 13: a decision is that you want Ukraine what it needs

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Speaker 13: to have to maintain to be able to defend itself

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Speaker 13: against Russia, which you do, want to Europeans to pay

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Speaker 13: for it, which is totally logical. And this is building

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Speaker 13: on the tremendous success of the Natal Summit, the five percent,

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Speaker 13: but also the decision to keep Ukraine strong and the

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Speaker 13: decision to increase our defense, industrial production. So based on

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Speaker 13: that that was europe stepping up. This is again Europeans

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Speaker 13: stepping up. So I've been in contact with many countries.

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Speaker 13: I can tell you that at this moment Germany massively,

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Speaker 13: but also Finland and Denmark and Sweden and Norway and Kingdom,

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Speaker 13: the Nevlands, Canada, they all want to be part of this.

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Speaker 13: And this is only the first wave. There will be more.

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Speaker 11: President Trump is also threatening to punish Russia with tariffs

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Speaker 11: if there isn't a deal to end the war with

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Speaker 11: Ukraine within the next fifty days. Lexington, Kentucky, remains in

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Speaker 11: shock following a deadly shooting at a small rural church

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Speaker 11: on Sunday. Investigators say the suspect was shot and killed

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Speaker 11: by responding officers, but only after he shot a state

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Speaker 11: trooper and then barged into Richmond Road Baptist church, where

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Speaker 11: he killed a seventy two year old mother and her

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Speaker 11: thirty four year old daughter. Two men were hit as

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Speaker 11: well and are reportedly fighting to recover at the hospital.

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Speaker 11: One of the victim's family members believes the shooter came

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Speaker 11: to the church looking for a woman he has three

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Speaker 11: children with. He reportedly stormed it to the church asking

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Speaker 11: said to have a history of mental health, drug and

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Speaker 11: angry issues. That's a great chuck off your headlines. I'm

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Speaker 11: Terrence Bates. Now let's get you back to your regularly

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Speaker 11: scheduled programming.

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Speaker 1: Smith also on the show. But we could have Dave

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Speaker 1: back on at another time. But Dave I do want Josh,

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Speaker 1: I do want to take this opportunity just to promote

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Speaker 1: the debate for those that haven't seen it to recap it.

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Speaker 1: So Josh, I want to get your opinion. Then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna play some pieces of tape and then Josh, I

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Speaker 1: want to give you an opportunity to maybe finish some

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Speaker 1: points that you might not have had time to do so.

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Speaker 1: But first, Josh, your impression, your experience at the turning

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Speaker 1: point USA high profile Israel debate.

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Speaker 20: Well, first of all, Charlie, thank you for the imitation

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Speaker 20: to appear at the debate, and thank you for moderating.

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Speaker 20: You moderated an outstanding debate. I told you in person

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Speaker 20: afterwards that I thought it was ten out of ten.

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Speaker 20: You did a fantastic job there. Look, it's a very

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Speaker 20: emotional topic and emotions run high there, but there are

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Speaker 20: a lot of substant points on both sides. One of

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Speaker 20: the things that I that I want to do, and

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Speaker 20: now that we've already seen what happened, I think it's

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Speaker 20: very clear in retrospect that it was a deliberate, one

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Speaker 20: of many deliberate tactics on my end to try to

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Speaker 20: make sure that the people there understand and the audience

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Speaker 20: watching at home around the world that MAGA and America

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Speaker 20: first and the Trump doctrine of foreign policy simply does

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Speaker 20: not mean why Libertarian isolationists like Dave Smith think that

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Speaker 20: it means or what they think it ought to mean.

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Speaker 20: The Trump doctrine of foreign policy is a nationalist, realist

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Speaker 20: foreign policy. It is a third wave form policy between

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Speaker 20: the equally absurd extremes of neo conservatism on the one

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Speaker 20: end and isolationism on the other end. And Charlie, that

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Speaker 20: was a theme that I tried to hit over and

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Speaker 20: over and over again through the course of this debate.

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Speaker 20: It was a very lively audience. The audience was super engaged.

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Speaker 20: There all sorts of applause lines I thought for both

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Speaker 20: of us, the occasional boo at times as well. But

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Speaker 20: it was an incredibly enriching and rewarding experience, and I'm

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Speaker 20: deeply happy that I did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I want to play some pieces of tape,

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Speaker 1: but I want to congratulate both you and Dave. Usually

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, the rule it works at the rule at

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Speaker 1: Turning Point USA events is Sunday. We'll be lucky to

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Speaker 1: have like one third of the room filled. It's just

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Speaker 1: the way it is. People fly home, they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I had a long night the night before. But it

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Speaker 1: was packed. I mean, it was the most packed closing

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Speaker 1: to a summit we've ever had outside of having Trump

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Speaker 1: or something like that, obviously. So let's just play some

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01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: pieces of tape here that have gone viral. But first

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Speaker 1: I want to go to a piece of agreement that

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Speaker 1: I think is important. I want to first play cut

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Speaker 1: two fifty seven where I throw it down and I say, look,

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Speaker 1: we and you can criticize the net and Yahoo government, great, Dave, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you know you can have a view on you know,

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Speaker 1: Irani intervention, but we're not gonna put up with this

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Speaker 1: jew hate stuff. It's not gonna happen. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: put up with it. Play cut two fifty seven. There

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01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: is a rise of I just think some disgusting stuff online.

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming you for this. I'm not one of

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Speaker 1: those people, right, But what do you have to say

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: that there's this like dark jew hate out there and

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Speaker 1: you see it and I see it. I hate it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not good. Yeah, and everyone in this audience, guys,

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01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: don't get yourself involved in that. I'm telling you, well,

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: rot your brain. It's bad for your soul. It's bad,

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Speaker 1: it's evil. I think it's demonic, Josh. I think that

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01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: was an important point. Dave agreed, and it really kind

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Speaker 1: of fenced in where this is what I think good

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01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: faith argumentation versus kind of the slop that we see

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Speaker 1: emerge far too often online.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and this is the critical distinction.

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Speaker 20: Look, there are so many parts of US is relation

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Speaker 20: of US involvement in the Middle East, more generally US

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Speaker 20: involvement in this in the twelve Day war against Iran.

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Speaker 20: I think all this is totally fair game. What should

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Speaker 20: the level of USA to Israel?

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Speaker 18: What should it be?

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Speaker 20: Should there actually be a Dave and I actually agree

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Speaker 20: that that aide should be phased out. We disagree on

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Speaker 20: the timeframe, but we broadly agree that US aid to

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Speaker 20: Israel ends up being something of a mutual bear hug that,

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Speaker 20: in my judgment, actually ends up undermining both the United

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Speaker 20: States and Israel in the midtal long term. So there

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Speaker 20: was actually no small amount of agreements when you kind

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Speaker 20: of go between the lines there. But this clip that

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Speaker 20: we just saw, Charlie is so important, and throughout your

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Speaker 20: entire career you've just been such a stalwart friend of

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Speaker 20: the Jewish people, defender of the Jewish people.

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Speaker 18: Charlie. You and I are friends.

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Speaker 20: We talk a lot offline, and you know I've told

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Speaker 20: you that what you go through on college campuses when

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01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 20: you have these crazy people that have gone down these

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Speaker 20: rabbit holes on social media that are talking to you,

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Speaker 20: Charlie Kirk, a young Evangelical Christian, about what is in

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Speaker 20: the Talmud.

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Speaker 18: First of all, my heart breaks.

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Speaker 20: So this is where we are in the year twenty

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Speaker 20: twenty five, that a young conservative Christian is being asked

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Speaker 20: to defend the Talmud. It's just an utterly absurd thing.

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Speaker 20: On his face, it is just totally absurd. But more importantly,

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Speaker 20: you do an amazing job with it, an absolutely amazing

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Speaker 20: job of defending the dignity of the Jewish people, the dignity.

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Speaker 18: Of the of the Jewish date of Israel.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 20: So God bless you and thank you for all you've

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Speaker 20: done throughout your career to defend the Jewish people in

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Speaker 20: the Jewish dam think. I think the crowd and everyone

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Speaker 20: watching at home saw that yet again yesterday, thank you.

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Speaker 1: For saying that, and that is such a good point.

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Speaker 1: And look, some people are you know, how Charlie, how

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Speaker 1: dare you platform? Can you respond to that, Josh, because

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Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, why'd you platform? Dave Smith? By

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Speaker 1: the way, And I think that's ridiculous, but it was

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Speaker 1: a debate. Obviously, you know that. I think that we

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Speaker 1: actually get stronger through debate. We should be unafraid to

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Speaker 1: have those kind of discussions. How would you respond to that, Josh?

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Speaker 18: So, first of all, this actually is not my first

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Speaker 18: time debating Dave Smith. Try.

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Speaker 20: I actually debated him back in February at Princeton University

1406
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 20: in New Jersey as part of the Steamboat Institute's Campus

1407
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 20: Liberty Tour, I think is the name for that tour.

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Speaker 20: So this is my second time in just six months

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Speaker 20: debating him. So if people are blaming Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 20: Turning Point USA for throwing Dave Smith into a debate,

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 20: then they probably have other organizations to blame as well.

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Speaker 20: Look Dave Smith, for better or for worse, Your mileage

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 20: may vary. I obviously am not a fan to put

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Speaker 20: a mildly of what the guy says.

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Speaker 18: I think I think a lot of it.

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Speaker 20: Is egregiously wrong, to the point at times of just

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01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 20: being utterly offensively wrong. But he has a platform, and people,

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Speaker 20: especially a lot of younger people, really really really tend

1419
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 20: to do glom on to what he says and to

1420
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Speaker 20: take what he says seriously and to the extent that

1421
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Speaker 20: we're debating legitimate substantive issues are what is the nature

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Speaker 20: of US israelations? What should US Israel relations look like?

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Speaker 20: I think that is entirely legitimately fair game. Now, Charlie,

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Speaker 20: it would have been very different if we had gone

1425
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,799
Speaker 20: there on that stage and U, as the moderate said, Okay,

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Speaker 20: you know, Josh and Dave Wanni debate whether Israel is

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Speaker 20: a Nazi enterprise committing a Nazi esque holocaust in Gaza,

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Speaker 20: god forbid, or less debate whether Israel.

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Speaker 18: Is in apartheid state.

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Speaker 20: You know, there are some things that I think definitely

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Speaker 20: should not be subject to a legitimate debate, especially a

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Speaker 20: high profile, highly influential conference like TPUSA Student Action Summit.

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Speaker 20: But that's not what we did on stage yesterday. And

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Speaker 20: I'm really just quite pleased.

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Speaker 1: With how it went. I want to play one more

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Speaker 1: piece of tape here, but now I want to get

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Speaker 1: let's just play this here.

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Speaker 16: This is.

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Speaker 1: Towards the end and the agreements, and let's just go through.

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Speaker 1: You and Dave both agreed on a sun setting of

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Speaker 1: aid to Israel that the United States should decouple. And

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Speaker 1: I've said this for a while. By the way. Bb

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Speaker 1: Net and Yahoo has also said this that if Israel

1444
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: is betting on the domestic support of the American body politic,

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Speaker 1: that is a risky support, risky bet. Things can change

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Speaker 1: over time. Let's go to the agreements. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: cut two fifty four. I want to just summarize, this

1448
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: was time well spent. Both Dave and Josh agree on

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Speaker 1: some plan to wind down US Israel aid that was

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01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: an agreement, correct the timeline. You can debate about number two.

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Speaker 1: They both say every humans man image of God, and

1452
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: we should not trivialize when you know the people are killed. Also,

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01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: I think we all agreed October seventh was awful. It

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 1: was terrible and should be talked about more and it

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Speaker 1: needs to be emphasized. We also agree this jew hate

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01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: stuff has no place in public discourse, period, end of story.

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Speaker 1: And I don't like it. It's disgusting and we need

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Speaker 1: to call it out when we see it. And finally,

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Speaker 1: I think the fifth is that I hope we demonstrated

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01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: both our participants got a little lively at times, that

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Speaker 1: this is a debate worth having, that it's better to

1462
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: have this out in the open than silence people and

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01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: censor them and call them names instead. This is how

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Speaker 1: we solve our problems. Give it up for Josh and

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01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: Dave one last time, everybody, Thank you, So Josh comment

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Speaker 1: on the agreement.

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Speaker 20: So you know, we talked a little bit about the age, Charlie,

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Speaker 20: but I'll just kind of reiterate my basic points here,

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Speaker 20: which is that US aids to Israel. I've been criticizing

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Speaker 20: this arrangement for the past decade. In fact, a pack,

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Speaker 20: first of all, APAC is not the boogeyman. A lot

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Speaker 20: of people think that it is. We have this conversation

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01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 20: on stage yesterday. They simply are not anywhere close to

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Speaker 20: as powerful as I think a lot of people think

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Speaker 20: that they are.

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Speaker 18: The Easiest way to know that is.

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Speaker 20: That a pack failed to stop Barack Obama's a nuclear

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Speaker 20: deal back in twenty fifteen. It was the number one

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Speaker 20: priority of the entire decade.

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Speaker 18: They failed. But nonetheless, despite.

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Speaker 20: That point, I'm not personally a fan of them because

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Speaker 20: they exist effectively in large parts to get these large

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Speaker 20: scale and annual aid appropriations roughly three point eight billion

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Speaker 20: dollars in the most recent aid package every year from

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Speaker 20: the US to Israel. Now, in my opinion, that aid

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Speaker 20: ends up being harmful to both countries. From the United

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Speaker 20: States perspective, it does end up being a crony capitalist

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Speaker 20: bit of the military industrial complex the President Dwight Eisenhower

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Speaker 20: famously warned about in his farewell address. You end up

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Speaker 20: essentially subsidizing Boeing North of Grumman, very large fat cat

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Speaker 20: defense contractors. People, you know, the kind of companies that

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Speaker 20: Lindsay Graham lobbies for. Are you frankly don't need any

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Speaker 20: more money falling into their coffers. But from issues of

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Speaker 20: you know, they should understand I think Israel that the

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Speaker 20: more that they are reliant on foreign aid, the more

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Speaker 20: that you embolden other countries that are not in this

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Speaker 20: case Israel to essentially wag a finger and know you

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Speaker 20: can't do X, Y Z thing, or else We're going

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Speaker 20: to cut off your aid. We saw that time and

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Speaker 20: time again, and from the Biden administration in particular after

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Speaker 20: October seventh. Then if you actually believe in Zionism, Charlie

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Speaker 20: Zionism is his word that has been tarred and feathered

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Speaker 20: by the Jihads, the cafia clad radicals on canvases. Zionism

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Speaker 20: is a very simple and actually beautiful concept. It is

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Speaker 20: the notion rooted. I would argue in the Book of

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Speaker 20: Genesis no less that the Jewish people have a god given, ancestral,

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Speaker 20: biblical right to their homeland. That's literally all the Zionism is.

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Speaker 20: So if you believe with that very simple, rudimentary proposition,

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Speaker 20: it stands to reason that the Jewish people actually should

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Speaker 20: determine that and that they should not be reliant on

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Speaker 20: anyone ultimately other than themselves to the extent possible. There So,

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Speaker 20: I think that this aid arrangement ends up undermining both countries'

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Speaker 20: interests in the mid to long term. Again, I think

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Speaker 20: Dave and I disagree very much on the timeframe. I

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Speaker 20: wouldn't I wouldn't cut that off, God forbid, in the

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Speaker 20: middle of an active seven front war, the likes of

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Speaker 20: which Israel has been facing since October seventh. But I

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Speaker 20: definitely think that in the mid to long term it

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Speaker 20: would be a good idea for both countries. And just

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Speaker 20: really briefly on the Genesis one twenty seven point Charlie.

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Speaker 20: In my book Israel and Civilization, I talk about how

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Speaker 20: Genesis chapter one, verse twenty seven the divine image imperative.

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Speaker 20: But sel Milchem, we would say in the Hebrew Amago

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Speaker 20: Day for our Catholic friends in the Latin this is

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Speaker 20: the foundational, ethical and moral imperative of all of Western civilization,

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Speaker 20: literally everything. In fact, I argue that Thomas Jefferson never

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Speaker 20: would have been able to write the words that he

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Speaker 20: wrote in the Declaration Independence. We hold these truths to

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Speaker 20: be self evident, that all men are created equal. Well,

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Speaker 20: where is he getting that from the Fourteenth Amendment, sweeping

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Speaker 20: claim of equal protection in section one the fourteen Men

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Speaker 20: the equal protection clause? Where is that coming from Martin

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Speaker 20: Luther King's speech in Washington, the civil rights at the

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Speaker 20: nineteen sixty four all these sweeping moral assertions of genuine

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Speaker 20: human equality in the American legal and moral order. It

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Speaker 20: has its roots root is the Hebrew Bible, and that

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Speaker 20: root is Genesis one twenty seven. So yes, we obviously

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Speaker 20: all care about the dignity and the humanity of every

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Speaker 20: single human being across the world, and is very important

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Speaker 20: no matter what conflict we're discussing, whether it's Gaza, whether

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Speaker 20: it's the Many Civil War or anything there. And I

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Speaker 20: do think it's curious by the way the law people

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Speaker 20: tend to assert this concern when it comes just to Gaza,

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Speaker 20: but tend to be a little silenced when it comes

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Speaker 20: to Yemen or Syria or Boca Harama, Nigeria and so forth.

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Speaker 20: So I will call them out for some hypocrisy there,

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Speaker 20: but I try to be consistent in trying to believe

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Speaker 20: in Genesis one twenty seven what that means for all

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Speaker 20: conflicts all throughout the world.

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Speaker 1: Josh, thank you very much. Stay right there, Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 1: Everybody should check out the debate that Josh Hammer had

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Speaker 1: versus Dave Smith. Josh what points do you wish you

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Speaker 1: would have made or that you would have made more

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Speaker 1: completely had you had more time.

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Speaker 20: Charlie, I would have liked to spend a little more

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Speaker 20: time and to be clear as a night you or

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Speaker 20: fault is. It's just the nature of how these debates go.

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Speaker 20: But I would have liked to take taken a little

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Speaker 20: more time to explain the the proactive humanitarian measures that

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Speaker 20: the Israeli military takes in Gaza to prevent civilian casualties.

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Speaker 20: There's a lot of exchange, a lot of accusations. Dave

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Speaker 20: Smith and people who agree with Dave Smith tend to

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Speaker 20: oftentimes accuse Israel doing terrible things, of slaughtering babies, of

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Speaker 20: indiscriminately just opening fire. Now on the debate, which I

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Speaker 20: agree with, when should go ahead and check out the debate.

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Speaker 20: I did talk a little bit about how we actually

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Speaker 20: have some numbers when it comes to civilian to combat

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Speaker 20: in death ratio one to one point five, as crunched

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Speaker 20: by John Spencer, the head of Urban Warfare studies at

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Speaker 20: West Points, a number that he says is the lowest

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Speaker 20: in the entire history of recorded urban warfare. Literally ever

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Speaker 20: so the most too main But I would have liked

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Speaker 20: to explain a little bit more about how the IDF

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Speaker 20: going back at least as far as the twenty fourteen

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Speaker 20: war in Gaza, arguably as far back, I think maybe

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Speaker 20: as even the prior conflict twenty twelve. They will literally

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Speaker 20: drop leaflets out of the sky onto buildings. They will

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Speaker 20: individually call up apartment buildings and stores and houses and say,

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Speaker 20: there is going to be a military operation here because

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Speaker 20: there is a Hamas facility headquartered as the case may be,

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Speaker 20: in the mosque where you are, in the housing area

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Speaker 20: where you are there.

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Speaker 18: So we're gonna have to take care of this.

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Speaker 20: So you have thirty sixty minutes, two hours, four hours,

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Speaker 20: whatever it is to basically get the heck out of Dodge.

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Speaker 20: They do this all the time there. So look, in

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Speaker 20: many ways, Israel is the idea of along the US

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Speaker 20: Army is the most moral warfighting machine.

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Speaker 18: In the modern history of the world.

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Speaker 20: So these continued allegations of just effectively just trying to

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Speaker 20: turn the old blood libel smear and then turn it

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Speaker 20: on the Jewish military when it comes to Gaza. It's

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Speaker 20: really just a frankly despicall line. I would have liked

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Speaker 20: to have taken a little more time to explain why

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Speaker 20: it simply is not the case there, because again they

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Speaker 20: go above and beyond Charlie. Sometimes, frankly, even some folks

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Speaker 20: in the US military have looked what Israel does, and

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Speaker 20: I've heard some veterans say, wow, I mean, we would

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Speaker 20: never do such a thing there. So, you know, we

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Speaker 20: complain a lot about how Barack Obama put overly restrictive

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Speaker 20: rules of engagement on our own place here in the

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Speaker 20: US military, Israel's goes so far, arguably, one might even argue,

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Speaker 20: but perhaps the times too far to impose ultra ultra

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Speaker 20: ultra strict rules of engagement on their own forces, all

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Speaker 20: trying to basically appease these nefarious and scandalous allegations of

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Speaker 20: industrially slaughtering children, none of which is even remotely true.

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Speaker 1: And closing here, Josh, what would you say is the

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Speaker 1: takeaway of how young people are viewing this issue and

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Speaker 1: what you may be learned throughout the debate on a

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Speaker 1: better way to keep framing it to win over younger people.

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Speaker 20: Charlie, Look, you and I are are in our thirties

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Speaker 20: at least I think you're in your thirties, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 20: I'm thirty six, So we're effectively the same age. And

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Speaker 20: we grew up in the context and in the immediate

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Speaker 20: aftermath of the failed regime change, moralistic boondoggles in Iraq

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Speaker 20: and Afghanistan. And for younger millennials and gen z who

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Speaker 20: grew up in this context, they rightfully are skeptical when

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Speaker 20: it comes to US military involvement overseas. I think that

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Speaker 20: Operation Midnight Hammer, Trump's twelve day War, the thirty seven

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Speaker 20: hour be Too bomber runs in Iran could potentially be

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Speaker 20: an inflection point in showing to young people than not

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Speaker 20: every use of an Arkan military force. Trump did the

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Speaker 20: same theme with Kasaim Sulimani and Abu Bakar al Baghdati,

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Speaker 20: the head of ISIS, by the way back during his

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Speaker 20: first term. I think he has shown yet again with

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Speaker 20: this extraordinarily successful surgical strike in Iran, a strike, by

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Speaker 20: the way, that would not have been possible. We're not

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Speaker 20: for the idea of essentially neutralizing the Iranian air air

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Speaker 20: control and missile launchers and all that there. But with

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Speaker 20: this strike, I think that Donald Trump has highlighted for

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Speaker 20: young people for maybe the first time in their lives,

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Speaker 20: what a truly surgical strike, nationalist realist bombed the crap

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Speaker 20: out of randemies who want to kill us, and then

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Speaker 20: get the heck out what that kind of foreign policy

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Speaker 20: can actually look like.

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Speaker 2: Charlie.

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Speaker 20: It is the Trump doctrine in action, as I've been

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Speaker 20: arguing for the past month, and I'm just proud to

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Speaker 20: call this man commander in chief because again he fulfilled

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Speaker 20: multiple campaign promises.

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Speaker 18: With one strike of the blow.

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Speaker 20: He has set Iran's nuclear ambitions back by many years

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Speaker 20: on the one hand, and two he did so without

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Speaker 20: starting a war, without a single American casualty.

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Speaker 1: Check out the Josh Hammer Show and choutout newsweek dot com. Josh,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Email us as always Freedom at

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