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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back everybody to Inside the Draft. I'm Matt

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Speaker 1: Taylor inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio, joined

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Speaker 1: by Casey Vale. And this is of course a special

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Speaker 1: post draft edition of Inside the Draft as we recap

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Speaker 1: the Colts hall consisting of twelve players from last weekend,

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Speaker 1: the most of the franchise in a draft since the

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Speaker 1: league went to a seven round draft in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: and the most since it had thirteen in a twelve

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Speaker 1: round process back in nineteen ninety two. It was headlined,

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Speaker 1: of course by quarterback Anthony Richardson four overall to the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. And to talk about that and the rest

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Speaker 1: of the Colts draft is our good friend Shane Hallum,

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Speaker 1: who's back again from NFL Draft Countdown. Shane, thanks again

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Speaker 1: for the time today after the draft. How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I'm doing great, Glad to be back

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Speaker 2: and excited. We had a fun draft.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now does your Twitter account still work or is

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Speaker 1: it a cap on how many tweets you can fire

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Speaker 1: off in one weekend? Because I loved it, I really did.

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Speaker 1: I'm just giving you grief. But you watch tape of

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Speaker 1: every single player drafted this year, you had a tweet

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Speaker 1: with a synopsis after every single selection. You had sixteen

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Speaker 1: hours of streamed draft content there on Draft countdown dot com.

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Speaker 1: Uh shan got to ask you, on a scale of

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Speaker 2: I think I think I'm hitting the seven or eight. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: eeast right now. But you know, the sixteen hours of

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Speaker 2: streaming takes a lot, but it was, you know, it

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Speaker 2: was exciting to finally see the culmination of everything. And

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Speaker 2: I was excited that I had watched every single player

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Speaker 2: that was my goal this year, after the Colts got

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Speaker 2: me last year in the seventh round with their linebacker

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Speaker 2: out of Yale.

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Speaker 1: This year, I was, oh, good, Rodney Thomas Hose you

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Speaker 2: He he did? He did last year. One player I

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Speaker 2: didn't watch last year, it's not gonna happen again that

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Speaker 2: any player with with that athletic testing. I was watching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he came back. He's probably gonna be a

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the top of the draft

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Speaker 1: and kind of recap things. So the Colts draft Anthony

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Speaker 1: and Will Anderson there at two and three respectively. Let's

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Speaker 1: begin there. Were you at all surprised the Texans didn't

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Speaker 1: overthink this and actually picked up a quarterback at two,

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Speaker 1: and in fact it being CJ. Stroud, who we kind

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised, just because the buzz

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Speaker 2: to default, and I think everyone should that that these

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Speaker 2: NFL teams are smart. They know what they're looking at too.

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Speaker 2: I think everyone out there that watched CJ. Stroud knew

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Speaker 2: he deserved to be a top quarterback pick in the

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Speaker 2: I'm a final Marck draft. I had Stroud falling to

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's stay there at the top again.

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Speaker 1: Richardson goes to Indianapolis for overall. Obviously, a lot of

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Speaker 1: he's going to succeed in this situation under Shane Steiken.

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Speaker 2: I think the Shane Stiken offense is exactly why he

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Speaker 2: I think Shane Steiken was a great hire because he

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson fits what he wants to do. But it

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Speaker 2: mold them a little bit more. For Richardson's abilities as

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Speaker 3: Now one of the questions we'll continue to ask until

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Speaker 2: And I think that really it's the best thing for

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Speaker 3: Now, one of those things that as I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 3: with Stroud, Richardson, and then Levis going to Tennessee, how

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Speaker 2: I think it's tough to judge. I think we have

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Speaker 2: That's tough. Like you said, it's very thin because I

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Speaker 2: we just need to be patient. I mean, you looked

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Speaker 1: Right, Shane, what'd you make of the rest of the

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Speaker 1: How much better did the Colts get last weekend with

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Speaker 2: I think they got much better because not only did

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the game there in Indianapolis, that's what

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, what they're doing there. When we talked

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Speaker 2: in terms of technique, but in terms of fitting an

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you talked about Julius Sprint's the local product out

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Speaker 2: because I think when he watched Brent this season, you know,

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Speaker 2: I thought some of the weaknesses maybe pushed him down

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Speaker 2: When you have a player with the ninety nine point

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Speaker 2: He could look at Joeys Frents being one of the

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Speaker 3: Now, Josh Down's the receiver out of North Carolina set

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Speaker 3: a lot of records there at North Carolina back to

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Speaker 2: I think he definitely has that potential. It was a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a surprising pick to me. The only

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Speaker 2: I think for a slot receiver you don't necessarily need

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Speaker 2: and have that explosive step. That's what Downs has. He

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Speaker 3: Now you talk about those athletic scores. One of the

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Speaker 2: You don't see those very often. No, and it shows

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Speaker 2: And I think the Colts maybe could take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: I got a double back here. You and Case. You

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Speaker 1: the r AS is the relative athletics score that measures

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Speaker 1: a prospects performance at the combine. And when you relate that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that rad scoor is created by Kentley Platt.

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Speaker 2: We had him on our podcast. He's a good friend

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Speaker 2: a perfect ten. So Anthony Richardson's a perfect ten. That

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the average score very high for the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and why does that matter? Can you give us

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Speaker 3: Now, post draft, you always kind of go back and

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Speaker 2: One big one for me was rakeem Jarrett, the wide

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Speaker 2: why didn't the guy get drafted? Well, it doesn't play

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Speaker 1: At a boy, All right, Shane, get your energy, drink,

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Speaker 1: throw some water in your face. Got to ask you

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Speaker 1: turn it on. Who's the number one overall pick in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four? You already have like a day three

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Speaker 1: mock draft for twenty twenty four, No kid, and I

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Speaker 1: saw it. You posted it, I saw it, I clicked

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Speaker 1: on it. So you got me, well done? Who is

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in twenty twenty four? Hedging our

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Speaker 1: bets here on May first, second, third, whatever day it is, Well.

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Speaker 2: Put your money down now it's going to be Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 2: the quarterback from USC Yes, it doesn't matter who gets

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Speaker 2: If you pick a number one, you take Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: He's He's going to be one of the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: Followed by who in terms of the best non quarterback prospect.

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 2: I think Marvin Harrison Junior, the receiver for Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: is there. I mean I think he should be. But

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Speaker 2: also drop Olufashanu the offensive tackle stay and Joe All

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Speaker 2: really good offensive class next year.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Shane Hallam from NFL Draft Countdown. Follow

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Speaker 1: him online. He's fantastic at what he does at Shane P.

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Speaker 1: Hallam on Twitter. That's ha, double lam Shane. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time, man. You've earned some time off, so

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. Get reacclimated there with your family and friends.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy your time off here in the summer, and we

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Speaker 1: look forward to doing again this time next year around

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Speaker 1: February and March for twenty twenty four, going all in again.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to do it again next year. Thanks

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Speaker 2: for having me, guys,