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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 1: our number three Tuesday edition. Appreciate all of you hanging

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Speaker 1: out with us across this great country and this great land.

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Speaker 1: If you have missed the first couple of hours of

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Speaker 1: the show, well you need to go download the podcast

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Speaker 1: you can make sure you don't miss anything. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking about airline pilots at Southwest, John Gruden out at

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Speaker 1: the NFL canceled culture, what exactly is going on there?

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Speaker 1: Vaccine mandates all over the country, but some governors standing

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Speaker 1: up against them. Virginia governmentorial candidate Glenn Junkin was on

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Speaker 1: with us in the second hour. Much more to come

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Speaker 1: from today's program, but for those of you who just

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Speaker 1: heard the end of the second hour of the program,

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Speaker 1: great question that Dean in Orange County, Texas asked about

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Speaker 1: how all of this legally surrounding COVID vaccine mandates is

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Speaker 1: going to play out, And I will synthesize his question

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Speaker 1: in a kind of a way for people who might

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Speaker 1: not have heard his question. To close out our number

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Speaker 1: two we didn't have an ability to answer it. In

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Speaker 1: twenty seconds because it's a complex question. But he basically said,

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Speaker 1: how are federal vaccine mandates from Joe Biden going to

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Speaker 1: play out in confrontation and conflict with the opposite and

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Speaker 1: opposition to a COVID vaccine mandate which is being implemented,

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Speaker 1: for instance, in states like Texas by Greg Abbott. The

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Speaker 1: general rule, and I'll say this, by the way, they

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Speaker 1: tell you when you graduate from law school that you

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Speaker 1: could say I remember they said this at my graduation

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Speaker 1: about twenty years ago. The speaker, the dean of the

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Speaker 1: law school said, three years ago, when someone asked you

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Speaker 1: a legal question, you could throw up your hands and

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Speaker 1: say I have no idea. And he said, and now,

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Speaker 1: after spending three years studying the law and diving into

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Speaker 1: all of the complexities and becoming a learned legal scholar,

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Speaker 1: somebody can ask you a question about the law, and

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Speaker 1: after three years of legal education, you can say that depends.

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Speaker 1: Which is one of the things that drives people crazy

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Speaker 1: about lawyers, is it's really about analyzing probabilities as it

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Speaker 1: pertains to judges, as it pertains to cases. So the

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Speaker 1: general rule here is federal law would supersede state law

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Speaker 1: right in general, unless the power has specifically been restricted

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Speaker 1: to the States, we do not have a great deal

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Speaker 1: of legal history as it pertains to mandatory vaccines from

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Speaker 1: the federal government. My general rule here is I do

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Speaker 1: not believe Joe Biden has the constitutional authority to mandate

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Speaker 1: vaccines as expansively as he is attempting to do. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he has that ability. And the conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theorist in me, as we said earlier, Buck is saying,

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Speaker 1: the reason why we still haven't seen these OSHA regulations

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Speaker 1: is because the Biden administration knows that, and they're trying

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Speaker 1: to drag this out as long as possible and get

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Speaker 1: companies and CEOs to start to implement their vaccine mandates

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Speaker 1: before they get struck down by the course. Well, because

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Speaker 1: right now, it's all what you saw in New York,

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Speaker 1: for example, was in advance of mandate compliance from a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. And clearly the more they can get

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Speaker 1: that from the companies with over one hundred employees, the

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Speaker 1: happier they're going to be, because they've obviously added to

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Speaker 1: their vaccinated numbers, more momentum behind the program, and they

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Speaker 1: get to this point where they start to say, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: Look how well it's working already, and we didn't even

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Speaker 1: have to start finding companies whatever it is fifteen or

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand or you know, huge amounts of money. If

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Speaker 1: you don't comply with this ocean regulation it comes forward.

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Speaker 1: It's also just a reminder. You know, we've talked in

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Speaker 1: the past about government overreach, and I refer to the

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Speaker 1: many headed hydra of DC statism. Right, DC deciding that

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Speaker 1: of the country. Look at what we have been put

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Speaker 1: CDC think that it can tell people, oh, you're the

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Speaker 1: contract that you have and the state law that governs

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Speaker 1: it when it comes to your home and or a

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Speaker 1: contracts enforced and kick people out if they don't pay

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Speaker 1: the rent. We're just going to abrogate that because we're

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Speaker 1: the CDC. Right, you have so many of these government

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court may well weigh in. The problem is, by

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Speaker 1: just like with the COVID vaccine moratorium. Now, buck, we

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Speaker 1: the IRS looking into every bank account. I don't think

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Speaker 1: perspect Pelosi was asked about this today. Let's remember just

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Speaker 1: Severn understands. Yes, obviously the government and I've actually written

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Speaker 1: up some of these warrants. I know how this stuff goes.

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Speaker 1: The government can see your financial information if it's subpoenas

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Speaker 1: it right, but there are some requirements for anything over

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Speaker 1: to Americans who are concerned about that? Yes? What, with

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Speaker 1: all due respect, the plural of anecdote is not data.

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Speaker 1: I've said that before here. Yes, there are concerns that

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Speaker 1: they want seventy billion dollars for additional IRS agent funding.

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Speaker 1: sure we have some constitutional conservative IRS agents listening who

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Speaker 1: We've already caught the IRS abusing their authority when it

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Speaker 1: So how in the world could six hundred dollars with

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Speaker 1: I would think have transactions of six hundred dollars or more.

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Speaker 1: the terrorists, if the FBI guys and the wind breakers

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Speaker 1: that's point one. Point two is that that includes even

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck Show. Jensaki disagrees, which is of course, oh,

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Speaker 1: Ronda Santis has banned most but not all. I believe

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Speaker 1: I need to check on this. Vaccine mandates of any

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Speaker 1: mandates period by executive order. Here is Jen Psaki speaking

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Speaker 1: is in the interests of the people you are governing.

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Speaker 1: It's perhaps in the interests of your own politics. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's not in the interest of That would be news

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Speaker 1: not even like they don't even care about this stuff

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Speaker 1: to keep fighting this battle in this way. Buck. Remember,

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Speaker 1: what they are doing in these states is just giving

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Speaker 1: anti vacs would be I whether, by the way anti

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Speaker 1: vaxx really should meet or has meant. There's never I

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Speaker 1: that that's not even really no one really holds that position.

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Speaker 1: very very few anti COVID vacs. There's more people that

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Speaker 1: I don't like this vaccine, I don't trust it. It's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: There are people who say that. But the fight that

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen vaccine mandates. Get the shot or you lose

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Speaker 1: you have a religious objection, even if you go down

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Speaker 1: the list. That's what people are opposed to, and that

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Speaker 1: Jensaki in this White House, it's not surprising they can't

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Speaker 1: and then act like pyromaniacs. That's what they do. And

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Speaker 1: That's because many of those people are making rational choices

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Speaker 1: what I want the right to do. As a parent,

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Speaker 1: first grader. Right, they shouldn't have the same medical policies

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Speaker 1: We wish we could take. You know, look, there's so

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Speaker 1: has engaged in places across the country, the shutdown of churches,

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Speaker 1: And it's in that framework that I think you consider

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Speaker 1: And thank you to the Governor Greg Abbott of Texas

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Speaker 1: and also we had a lot of calls from pilots, Buck,

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Speaker 1: want to give a credit to Southwest Airline CEO Gary Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Buck and said he doesn't agree with the COVID vaccine mandate,

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Speaker 1: Will others continue to do so? And how much could

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Speaker 1: this rebellion grow. We'll continue to talk about that tomorrow

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Speaker 1: as we get ready for Wednesday's program. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be a voice of sanity in a world of insanity.

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Speaker 1: That's what we try to do. That's how we roll

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Speaker 1: here on the Clay and Buck Show. Be sure to

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