1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Tourists. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm a homegrowd that knows a little bit about everything 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: and everybody. I don't know if you don't lie about that, 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: right la, Hey, y'all, what's up at Laura de Rosa? 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: And this is the latest with Laura de Rosa. 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: This is your DELI dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: news and all of the conversations. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: That shake the room. 9 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: Baby. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Now, we always start off with a behind the scenes 11 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: check in, a behind the scenes of the grind. And 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: I am currently right now as we speak, uh, in 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: real time. 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: I'm just. 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: I'm in a space of I wouldn't even it's not 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: learning how to delegate, but we are basically at a 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: space where like we need to expand the team. We 18 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: are trying to figure out a day to day kind 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: of like a like a personal executive assistant type role, 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: somebody who would like go with me to events and 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, just like help me organize a lot of 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: the things that I'm like incurring during the day. And 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: because I am one of the things that I've like 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: told myself from the beginning of this is like I 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: want to just keep making sure I get up and 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: I show up for work and I don't mean it 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: like I don't want to call out to the breakfast 28 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: club or skip podcasts or you know what I mean. 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: I mean in a sense of I want to be 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: able to like, not worry about. You know, there's a 31 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: lot of things that come as you build platforms. So 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: there's events happening, and now we have the merch at 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: brown girlgrinding dot com. You should go check it out, 34 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: especially for Women's History Month, because it's empowering the best 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: women in your lives. But when all this stuff is 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: starting to come and things are starting to move, there's 37 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: a lot to be done. There's a lot of instruction 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: to give, There's a lot of execution that happens, and 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: I want to be able to just focus on doing 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: the work, focus on my stories, focus on building myself 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: in that space of telling the stories and getting you know, 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: the information, just doing all the things that I always 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: had time to focus on when all the other things 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: weren't bubbling as much because the platform wasn't as big. 45 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: Now we are over eight million listeners strong here at 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: the latest. We've learned the roads of the podcast and 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: all of the things, so you guys can imagine, you know, 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: how things have grown. So that is what in real time, 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: the behind the scenes of the grind is looking like 50 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: for me. I am trying to figure out, like this 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: is a new space for me. I've had an administrative 52 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: assistant for probably like three years now who's been like 53 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: she's a writer. 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: So shout out to her. 55 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Shout out to Site Solutions if you were in the 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: Delaware Philly, Jersey area and you need virtual assistance, they're 57 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: not in person. And that's the only thing that now 58 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: I'm growing to a space where I need some I 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: do need someone day to day with me in person. 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: But if you need a person who can do you know, 61 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: your back end admin operations, and I would say from 62 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: or like day to day businesses so like real estate 63 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: and you know, doctor's office, daycare, stuff like that that 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: has a lot of like paperwork and day to day 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: to dos that are very like structured. Because my world 66 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: is so crazy, I feel like it's structured, but it's 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: so not, like everything is forever changing depending on what's 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: happening in the news, and you know. 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Just so many things. 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: I think that that's their strong point though, working with 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: businesses who are very structured, who have the same beating 72 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: temple daily, but really need help, you know, building out 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: the structure and making sure there's structure and what you've 74 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: set in place and who does what and you know 75 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: all that type of stuff is consistent to shout out 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: to her. But we're trying to figure it out. We're 77 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: trying to figure out what this looks like, who we 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: bring in. We do have job listings out there, and 79 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: it has been a tay. There's been a time only 80 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: because it's like we find someone and it's like, oh no, 81 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: but this, And then we find someone and it's like, 82 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: oh no, but this, and we find someone, I'm like, hmmm, Personally, 83 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that's the person I want to bring 84 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: into like my space. And it's not just about me 85 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: now either. It's like I'm interacting with people on a 86 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: daily who also you know, have various things that they 87 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: protect and you know things. Is just different when when 88 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: the platform starts to build, Like there are a lot 89 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: of conversations about the business behind building, but like I 90 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: do want to have more conversations that get more into 91 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: like the minutia, like the small questions that you don't 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 2: just like ask in an interview because you want to 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: get to the bigger stuff like, well, how do I scale? 94 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: How do I get loan? Try to know? 95 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: I ask questions like what type of bank accounts do 96 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: you put your money in that you're gonna use to 97 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: pay your taxes later? How many bank accounts do you have? 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: How do you how do you divide? You know your money? 99 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: How are you llced or incorporated? For cause? You know, 100 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: like in today's world, I was gonna say in what 101 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: I do, but it's not even in what I do. 102 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: I feel like in twenty twenty six, in general, you 103 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: can have the most Like I'm gonna call it regular 104 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: and it's not a job. It's just me trying to 105 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: classify the type of job I'm talking about. You could 106 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: have a regular job, right like you could be a 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: corporate banker, like I used to work at Barclay when 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: I first graduated from college in the community relations department, 109 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: and it was like it was great benefits, great pay, 110 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: go to work, go home. Nowadays you could be doing that, 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: Like you could have that job and you could be 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: online talking about the fact that you have that job 113 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: and build an audience for yourself and that now creates 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: other income outside of that job about what you do 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: or doing it for other people in another space, like 116 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: the opportunities are endless nowadays, so managing business is so different. 117 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the things that has 118 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: been like so new for me because I don't have 119 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: other people in this space that I can go to 120 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: that are like family. Never really understand it because it's 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: so new at this level. But look, I call charloatune 122 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: An Envy all the time or even just in person 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: and ask them questions about things as I'm trying to 124 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: figure out all of this stuff. 125 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: But it's scary. It's like imagine having a baby. 126 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: In the day that your baby is born, when your 127 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: baby literally first cry, You're like, okay, I'm gonna hear 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: my baby over to this person who's gonna have my 129 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: baby for twelve hours a day. I feel like I've 130 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: been working so hard all of my life to get 131 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: to certain points that I'm literally living in my answer prayers, 132 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: and God has so much more in store for me. 133 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: But I know I need certain things at a very 134 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: small level because again I'm still building. Everything is still new, 135 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: but I just want to have things organized. I want 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: things to be seenless because I just want to focus 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: on the work. And it's scary, trusting somebody with your 138 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: baby like it is. It's not that. So those are 139 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: just some of the things that like, you know, driving 140 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: her to the podcast today. 141 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: I was just. 142 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Thinking and having conversations about like scale and scaling and 143 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I saw recently that Hanifah, who 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: is a clothing designer. She's a black woman clothing designer 145 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: from the DMV area. Well really and then we call 146 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: her hanif for but her name is Anifa, but her 147 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: brand is Honefa And you guys may or may not 148 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: recognize the brand. It's it's a clothing brand, it's a 149 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: fashion brand. But she has been doing this for like decades. 150 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Like she was one of the first designers I ever 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: saw have like a three D virtual like what AI 152 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: and all this virtual and tech stuff is. She did 153 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: that so long ago. She had a full fashion show 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: in the pandemic when we can go around people virtually 155 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: and it stopped the world. She's been doing clothes and 156 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: doing things for a long time. But she recently decided 157 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: to take a pause from her business just because there 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: was a lot of conversation and backlash online from customers 159 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: not receiving orders and you know, waiting months for orders 160 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: and just a ton of different things. 161 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: And when I look at that, I'm like, you know, 162 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: scaling a. 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: Business is so much more than like how do I 164 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: find funding? That is such such a big part of it. 165 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna you know, I'm not saying that 166 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: to say you don't need the money to scale, because 167 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 2: you do. Even in hiring people, you need money to 168 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: be able to pay them, right. But what I'm saying 169 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 2: is that knowing what to do with it right because 170 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: Honeyfa has a following Honeyfa as customers, so the demand 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: is there even though she might not have her And 172 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm not ever gonna say, Mike, she's a black woman designer. 173 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: I know she don't have everything she needs when it 174 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: comes to financial backing. But she was successful to a 175 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: point where things were moving and she still had to 176 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: take a pause to figure out a lot of things, 177 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: is my point. And I saw that this week and 178 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: just you know, the the media covering it and people 179 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: have a conversations about it, and I'm like, dang, it 180 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 2: don't matter what level of success you get to because 181 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: of what we were not taught. There's always a sense 182 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: of like having to teach yourself having to figure it 183 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: out in real time in front of the world, especially 184 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: if you're on a platform and building a business, and 185 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: the fifty to fifty chance that like you might mess 186 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: up or you might not and being able to recover 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: from that mess up. And that's like my biggest fear 188 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: is one day I wake up and like all of 189 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: this is like not there, and I try to get 190 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: out of that mindset. It's like a little bit of 191 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: like imposter syndrome and like do I deserve what's happening 192 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: and not deserve it like what was me? 193 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: But more so like. 194 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: I always think I'm gonna wake up one day it's 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: gonna be like the jig is up and you didn't 196 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: really like you're not as good as you think you 197 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: are or you've always been or people think you are. 198 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: And that's a weird feeling to have because again, when 199 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: I say I always just want to come to work 200 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: and do the work, I don't even think about stuff 201 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: like that. I literally just like do the job I 202 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: know to do because I'm passionate about being able to 203 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: like talk and tell stories and create stories and all 204 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: that like, and I want to do it in so 205 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: many different ways. So at this level right now, and 206 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: what I'm doing looking at a Hanifah and you know, 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: her decision to take a pause for a bit, she 208 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: made it very clear, is only a pause. I then 209 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 2: go into looking at my own stuff behind the scenes, 210 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, here's everything that I feel 211 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: like I'm lacking. Here's all the holes, and how can 212 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: we begetting to like fix this stuff now, even if 213 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: just small fixes. How can we make things more seamless 214 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: and you know, just everything so that as things do grow, 215 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 2: because they're like it's just naturally happening, I'm able to 216 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: keep up. Like on the business on the back endside 217 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: of it, I'm able to keep up. But you know, 218 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: I thank God for having good people, like being able 219 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: to pick up the phone and call pep who've been 220 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: doing this for so much longer than I have at 221 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: a very high level, you know, and ask honest questions 222 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: and get honest answers and get resources. 223 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I am so proud of that. 224 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: But let's get on into the latest because speaking of 225 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: business and conversations, we talked about Matthew Knowles in the 226 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 2: interview that he abruptly ended, but he says that this 227 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: whole conversation is skewing the narrative and he's threatening legal action. 228 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: I think it's because it's impacting or could potentially impact 229 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: his business. 230 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: Let's get into the latest. 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 2: So Matthew Knowles, father of Beyonce, who was married to Tina, 232 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: knows Miss Tina Knowles and mister Matthew knows the parents 233 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 2: of Beyonce, and I keep just saying Beyonce, excuse me, 234 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: the parents of Beyonce and Solange Knowles. 235 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: He is now sitting. 236 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: Down and clearing up a lot of the issues that 237 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: came out of the conversation with pixe Levin and a 238 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: reporter named Kendis Gibson. Now, I told you guys on 239 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: a previous episode. We also talked about this on the 240 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club about how you know this interview was forty 241 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: plus minutes long. I gave you guys some look some 242 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: more like deeper looks into the interview yesterday, the full 243 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: interview yesterday, and now he is having another conversation. So 244 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: mister Matthew Knows uploaded a conversation with his team just 245 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: about everything that has been going on. So I want 246 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: to play a clip where he kind of explains why 247 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: he walked out of the interview and just just addressing everything. 248 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to mister Mathew Knows. 249 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: I think I calmly what I said, and I'm actually 250 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 4: quoting what work did she put in? 251 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: It was a question when I look, I don't do 252 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: interviews colors. I have conversations, yeah, and I have the 253 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: right as you know, you know about college professor. I 254 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: didn't know what he meant by that, So I'm saying, calmly, 255 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: what work did she put in? That was a question. 256 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: I don't know how that became a comment, but it 257 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: was a question. And then the gentleman went on to 258 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 4: say her hair, Well, Tina did way more than just 259 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: her hair. And if you look after interview, you I 260 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: said her hair, No, she did the styling, built the 261 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: image for destiny. Shall when you agree, that's way more 262 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: than just saying someone did the hair. 263 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: Now, I told you guys on the previous podcast episode, 264 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 2: we did speak to Kitness Gibson who said, who was 265 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: the journalist who conducted the interview for pix eleven, who 266 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: said he was not late. His call time and the 267 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: crew set up time were different. And mister Matthew Knows 268 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 2: just happened to be there a bit earlier, and who 269 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: also said that there was no he alleges that you know, 270 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: there wasn't a bad vibe during the interview. I from 271 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: the interview I watched. I mean, I wasn't There was 272 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: a statement that was put out the Page Chicks yesterday 273 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: and I wasn't really sold on the statement from mister Knowles. 274 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: But he's speaking for himself now, and I'm like, I 275 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: can understand where he's coming from a bit more. 276 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: However, I do think the tone of his. 277 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Response in that original abrupt stop, let's let's play that again. 278 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: I think that is the issue. Let's listen. 279 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 5: You've earned your flowers, and so the same thing to 280 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: Christina Knowles. You guys put in the work and obviously. 281 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: The talent was there with your kids and your grandkids. 282 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: What work did she good at. 283 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: In the hair. 284 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: Right at the end of styling, the style of imaging 285 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: she claim to have prayed on the name. 286 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: And different aspects of that. Sure, yeah, it's. 287 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 4: A joint effort. 288 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: We'll stop. 289 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: I said something wrong, Thank. 290 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: You, thank you. 291 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: I think that is the issue, because I know mister 292 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: Matthew Knows is debating that you know, he gave miss 293 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: Tina Knowles her flowers and he wasn't trying to disparage 294 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: and you know, all these things. But I think when 295 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: you hear his response after what was said, right, because 296 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: it's like, y'all are equally receiving your flowers and you know, 297 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: and he's like, we need to be able to have conversations. 298 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: It's like. 299 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: I would assume that mister Matthew knows is very aware 300 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: of Miss Tina Knowles's contributions to Destiny's Child, and and 301 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: again he says in that interview, and you guys just 302 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: heard him say her contributions and making sure that she got. 303 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: Her just due for them. 304 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: So it just came off of and I think, look, 305 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: even if that wasn't his intention, that's what happens when 306 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: you do these interviews, like the way that the Internet 307 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: can take something and make it one way and make 308 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: it another. If that is what he's arguing, I can 309 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: understand that I don't know necessarily, and it's not about 310 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: my feelings. I'm just here to tell you guys what happened, 311 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: not how I feel for the most part. But I 312 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: also can very clearly see why people took this as like, hey, 313 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: don't do that to miss Tina because she is just 314 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: as much a part of Destiny Child's legacy as you are. 315 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: In and you know, mister Matthew Knows talked a lot 316 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: about where him and Miss Tina knows his relationship is today. 317 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to that, which a lot of 318 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: the media is not actually like posting. They're only posting 319 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: that one response that we just listened to. So let's 320 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: take a listen to where the relationship is today and 321 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: if they even have even discussed this, like, is it 322 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: something that they even cared about? 323 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: Was it on their meter? 324 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: I mean, so at this point, it's like it's nothing 325 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: we could do but move on. I know mister Matthew 326 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: Knows is threatening uh to take legal action, and you know, 327 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: I'll figure trying to figure out exactly what his angle 328 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: in there uh in on that would be. But I 329 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: would assume it's because of all of the negativity in 330 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: the in the negative conversation that he received following this clip, 331 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: and the clip wasn't have from what I was told 332 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 2: I was I was told that mister Matthew Knows and 333 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: team allegedly had that part of the interview removed. So 334 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: if that is the angle, and again this is just 335 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: my educated guest that that is what what what would happen? 336 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: And even if it's just you know, him going at 337 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: various journalists or media outlets who reported it, I think 338 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: it would be him going after any people, anyone who 339 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: tried to interpret what he did as disparaging to Miss 340 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: Tina Knowles indefinitely, Like I think fair use. There's something 341 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: called fair use where it's like, you know, if you're 342 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 2: a person of the media or a news organization, you're 343 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: able to utilize various assets, interviews, photos, and just conversations 344 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: and have conversations in a certain way because you're granted 345 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: a certain level of I won't say immunity, because media 346 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: is not immune in twenty twenty six and every action 347 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: has a reaction. It's free speech and free that is 348 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: very clear. But fair use is normally brought up when 349 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: a media outlet is trying to it's trying to have 350 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: a conversation about what is granted, Like how much can 351 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,239 Speaker 2: I do because I'm a person of the media and 352 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: in my job it is my job to inform the 353 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: public and have certain conversations about certain things. But I 354 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: will say that even with that, there are responsibilities, like 355 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: there are there are ways that you can and cannot 356 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: talk about things and people. The definition of fair use 357 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: in the media is legally using copyrighted material without permission 358 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: through fair usementary criticisms, news, education, or using content that 359 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: is in the public domain. Under Creative Commons licensing, key 360 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: considerations include if the use is transformative, the amount that 361 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: you use, and the impact on the market. So yeah, 362 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: I in my opinion, I think if he is actually 363 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: moving forward with legal action and that's not just something 364 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: that he's saying, because you know, he feels a way 365 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: about the outlet that put out this video which was 366 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: page six, I think his issue would lie there, it 367 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 2: would lie with the outlet. But we'll keep you updated. 368 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated. I don't want to, I don't 369 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: want to speak for anybody. I just want to, you know, 370 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: keep you guys updated as it happens. So that is 371 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: what we will do. But speaking of things and the 372 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: Internet and things being miscontrued and you know all that 373 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: is happening, Queen Latifah uploaded a video to Instagram today 374 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: and Queen there was a big announcement that went down 375 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: that Queen Latifa and Taraji p Henton, you know, Queen 376 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: Latifa has her Flavor Unit Entertainment, Taraji has Taraji p 377 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: Heinton and her production company. They're going to partner together 378 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: to be working on some things for Lifetime and they'll 379 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: be telling stories across the platform and they're gonna, you know, 380 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: bring Taye Diggs into it as well too. So it 381 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: was like a celebratory day for her. And then all 382 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: of a sudden, I saw her process video not too 383 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: long ago on her Instagram and I'm like, what happened? 384 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: Like what is she responding to? Let's take a listen 385 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: to the video. And I still have yet to answer 386 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: this question. 387 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 2: That is something that we will bring back in our 388 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: later episode, potentially on The Breakfast Club, because this is 389 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: all just happening right now in real time. But I'll 390 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 2: tell you what has been speculated on the Internet that 391 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: I didn't even know was a thing until she posted 392 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: this video. 393 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Queen Latifa. 394 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: The morning It's sweets, Okay, I think be sure you 395 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 5: can't believe with your on your internet book or seeing 396 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: Commie can't believe that now right. 397 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Now? Like I said, here's the tricks that the internet plays. 398 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: So when she posted this video instantly My next thought 399 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: and storytelling is, Okay, there had to have been a 400 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: rumor about something health wise because she's posting basically a 401 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: proof of life video. But I know that there's also 402 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: been issues with deep fake videos but also AI photos. Right, 403 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: Dolly Parton, we talked about it here on the podcast. 404 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: Dolly Barton had to get on her social media platform 405 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: and let people know she was alive too. And then 406 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: when we went to Miss Patti Labelle's house for Thanksgiving, 407 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: Patti LaBelle told us at the Breakfast Club when we 408 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: did a Christmas breakfast with Miss patty Leabelle on the 409 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, and she told us as well, she's had 410 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 2: to really address things that she would have never addressed 411 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: because they had her, you know, out of here as well. 412 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: At one point with Dolly Parton that was something about 413 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: her in a Netflix series coming. I saw a post 414 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: speaking of, you know, just random things in medical They 415 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: were saying that Miss Patti LaBelle was going to be 416 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: doing a free hospital where people could go and get 417 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: care for for free, which was completely not true. So 418 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: these things happened, but when you talk about it as 419 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: the celebrity in the situation, it makes us go and 420 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: look like, okay, well. 421 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: What was the people saying? Like what was happening? 422 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: So instantly I go to Google and I google what 423 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: is wrong with Queen Latifah. I see threads and TikTok 424 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: and random post on Instagram, two different things. So I 425 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: see a death hopes where people like thought she wasn't alive, 426 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: and then I see something about her having some sort 427 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 2: of blood cancer and people feeling like she revealed to 428 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 2: the world that she had blood cancer. And I'm like, 429 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: and I see, like from five days ago, there's like 430 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: a fake photo of her and somebody posted on their 431 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 2: Answer story and it's like prayers up for the Queen 432 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: from Jersey. And in the photo, Queen Latifah is in 433 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: a bed, she has like a tube in her nose 434 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: and she's toning up a sign that says I have 435 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: late stage cancer. This might be my last post, Please 436 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: pray for me. And then the headline on this post 437 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 2: is Queen Latifah is blood cancer icons Midnight Revelation sparks 438 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: global outpouring of prayers and love. So basically, she had 439 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: posted this allegedly according to these fake reports, because we 440 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: know they're fake. The fake reports were saying that she 441 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: posted this, you know, one late midnight, and everybody was 442 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: freaking out, and now she's not good, Like to the 443 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: point where Queen Latifa, who is so out the way, 444 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: who does not address anything, had to get online and 445 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: post a video to show you guys that she is good. Look, 446 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: I'm not mad at mister Matthew knows and saying he 447 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: look legal action, y'all gonna stop playing with me. 448 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: Now. I'm a journalist. 449 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: I'm in the media, so I never want to throw 450 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: another media outlet under the bus and say they deserve 451 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: legal action or whatever. But when it comes to, you know, 452 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: protecting your name on the other side of it, when 453 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: it comes to protecting your name and things, I get 454 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: it because in twenty twenty six, there's so much take stuff. 455 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: It's actually scary. Like it's really scary because I feel 456 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: like when I first started doing this, like being in 457 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: the media space with a real outlet. Before that, I 458 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: was just doing interviews on YouTube, right, And when I 459 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: would hear or see something like what Queen Latifa had 460 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: to post and response too, I would either wait because 461 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: they may or may not respond. On social media, Instagram 462 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: was so new you could barely do fifteen second videos. 463 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: When I was doing my YouTube stuff and just responding 464 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: on social media and taking back your platform wasn't a 465 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: big of a thing. 466 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: Like at that point, it. 467 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: Was like people would only give statements to the media 468 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: or you would have to wait until they do their 469 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: next interview to hear from them. So I would be like, Okay, 470 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: I need to get the next interview, and that's how 471 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna find out if any of this is real 472 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: or not, or. 473 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if it was real, we wouldn't be able 474 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: to get it. But nowadays things are so. 475 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Different, and it's like, I think the fake news and 476 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: all that stuff spread so fast. So it's like, as 477 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: the celebrity or as the business, you have to be 478 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: able to react. I wouldn't say fast, because I don't 479 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: think a fast reaction is the best anytime anything circulating, 480 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: but you have to be able to react in a 481 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: way that like, if it doesn't jump ahead of what's happening, 482 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: it dominates the story. So Queen Latifa does not get 483 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: online in the dress anything ever, what's all There don't 484 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: be no statements and nobody know nothing, and she posted 485 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: this video. That means it's not about reacting fast, it's 486 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: about she knows the impact Queen Latifah posting a video 487 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: is gonna make the whole world stop and listen because 488 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: she doesn't do it. So this is her controlling and 489 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: taking back the narrative. It's crazy to have to see 490 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: her do that knowing that she doesn't do it right, 491 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: knowing that she does not do that. What be Goldburgers 492 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: had to do that with the Epstein File. I was like, 493 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: these are people and what be Goldberger is on the view, 494 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: but she don't and she had to apologize for laughing 495 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: at something on America's Next Top Model Because of social 496 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: media as well, these are people that, even if outspoken, 497 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: don't really they don't get into the semantics of like 498 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: the people and what's happening with the people saying, They 499 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: push through, they do what they gotta do, and. 500 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: They move on. Things have done changed. 501 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 2: Okay, this has been another episode of the Latest with 502 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: Laura la Rosa. I'm your host, Lauren Rosa, and I 503 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: tell you guys, every single episode, y'all could be anywhere 504 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: with anybody, but you guys choose to be right here 505 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: with me, my lowriders. 506 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I will see you guys in my next episode.