Speaker 1: What is up?
Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets
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Speaker 2: We're not gonna go too deep into the games, like
Speaker 2: we're not gonna give you a full breakdown of Freddie
Speaker 2: Peralta's last start as New York Met. We will talk
Speaker 2: on on Sodo injury, We'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: McLain the big stuff. Of course, as always, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: your favorite part of this weekend, James, Mine was Emmastone
Speaker 2: filming a movie at the stadium.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think it was the realization
Speaker 1: of Emistone and I might have the same retro Mets
Speaker 1: ad which I think that was. Also. She's a Padres
Speaker 1: fan though, so like in a legitimate one too, But
Speaker 1: me Emmstone Ernie, we're hat triplets. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just it's kind of a sleepy series. I got really
Speaker 1: mad about the Brett Baity era on Saturday. Ex take
Speaker 1: it mad. Yeah, I got really mad about that one
Speaker 1: because I just found that I claim was pitching well
Speaker 1: against a really good lie up. I felt like I
Speaker 1: kind of disrupted his rhythm. And the rest of the
Speaker 1: season is just about our guys, and I'm dying for
Speaker 1: the Snolan McLain Rookie the Year possible. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it was just an annoying series. Like I the
Speaker 1: game on Friday was like, oh, we're just We're just
Speaker 1: not gonna win this. The whole time, he felt it
Speaker 1: was another team doing all of the little true baseball
Speaker 1: things right, moving runners over, taking extra bases, working better
Speaker 1: at bats, getting their sackflies that won them the game,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, this is just a better
Speaker 1: baseball team by far than we are. Yes, sleepy series.
Speaker 2: Do you buy into the rumor that Juan Soto actually
Speaker 2: got hurt filming the movie and that they wanted him
Speaker 2: to start the game and then they knew that they
Speaker 2: were gonna pull them because they didn't want the movie
Speaker 2: to be the reason why he got hurt.
Speaker 1: That can't be real.
Speaker 2: That's what people are trying to say on the internet,
Speaker 2: because this is what the New York Mets fan base
Speaker 2: has come to.
Speaker 1: I've been so off Twitter this weekend specifically, and I
Speaker 1: get I'm like, a good move. I'm trying to scroll less.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to tweet more, scroll less just to
Speaker 1: add to the chaos, but not deal with the aftermath
Speaker 1: of it. It's just it's really bad out there right now,
Speaker 1: even like, let's just get full jump around by Freddie
Speaker 1: perraulta first, because let's go with him.
Speaker 2: This was the Freddie Peralta encore as a Met. It
Speaker 2: was as bad as it's been the entire time. There
Speaker 2: was never really a moment of peace, despite the fact
Speaker 2: that his stuff. I think his fully stat back like
Speaker 2: he was getting swings and misses. The fastball was zippy.
Speaker 2: I think it has definitely would you watch this one,
Speaker 2: just he doesn't know where the ball is going, like
Speaker 2: this is more of.
Speaker 1: The old school Freddy Peralta, Like this is the Freddie
Speaker 1: Pelton we've come to know over his entire career. But
Speaker 1: fastball getting whiffs with good Ford in the nineties. Like,
Speaker 1: that's a guy. That's a guy I would trade an
Speaker 1: easy two top hundred prospects for if I had to.
Speaker 2: If I didn't see the entire prior ninety innings of
Speaker 2: his season, oh yeah, all day. Just if I saw
Speaker 2: miles per hour in whiffs, I'd be in. The problem is,
Speaker 2: I think nobody's just looking at those things.
Speaker 1: I actually think it's exactly what the FRED officers are
Speaker 1: looking at. Yeah, for sure, but it just I think
Speaker 1: the kind of I don't know, I think Freddy Perlt
Speaker 1: is going to be another one of these very divisive
Speaker 1: guys in the lore of the Mets, where if some
Speaker 1: other Freddie Perolt's name over the next few years, you'll
Speaker 1: hear horrible epithets being thrown around. Yeah, but like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I kind of just genuinely feel bad for
Speaker 1: the guy. Especially his press conference after the game. I
Speaker 1: thought he was really really just authentic and really apologetic
Speaker 1: about how this whole thing has gone, how disappointed he's
Speaker 1: been in his own performance, and how he know he
Speaker 1: knew that he was brought here to do a job,
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything close to it. Just the quotu
Speaker 1: here that went on the s y metsic count on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I'm thankful and grateful to be part of this organization.
Speaker 1: So far, I let them down. I haven't done what
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do, but I'm grateful to be here.
Speaker 1: While he was completely and honestly talking about that this
Speaker 1: was definitely gonna be his last start in Met uniform, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way that he makes another start for the
Speaker 1: New York Mets.
Speaker 2: It definitely sucks. It's a guy that I will I
Speaker 2: will like hate. The performance of him as a player
Speaker 2: doesn't even come close to one of my most hated
Speaker 2: Mets of all time. Like, it doesn't even complose most
Speaker 2: hated Mets of the last twelve months now, not even close.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, he completely shited the bed, completely shipped down.
Speaker 2: Is like this season basically couldn't have pitched worse for
Speaker 2: this team and is a big reason why the Mets
Speaker 2: have struggled as much they have. He's not the only
Speaker 2: reason why they're fifteen sixteen games under five hundred. Pretty
Speaker 2: sure as hell didn't help at all get that team
Speaker 2: even closer to it.
Speaker 1: It sucks. He seems like a really good guy.
Speaker 2: He always spoke to the to the press, which is
Speaker 2: something that a lot of times you will see these
Speaker 2: guys coming in they get a little bit sheltered or
Speaker 2: they avoid as much as possible. Freddy Prault to seem
Speaker 2: to not do that at all took a lot of
Speaker 2: accountability to These are all things that I wish I
Speaker 2: never had to say, because it sucks. I feel bad
Speaker 2: for Freddy Prawl to the person.
Speaker 1: He is a human.
Speaker 2: He definitely was trying, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the reality of the situation was he was absolutely.
Speaker 1: Dreadful, literally one of the one of the worst pitchers
Speaker 1: in baseball. This went as bad as it possibly could
Speaker 1: have gone from the Mets perspective, I guess until we
Speaker 1: see what the trade winds up being, we can't fully
Speaker 1: say that. But I'll say again talking about this stuff, Hello, Braves, Yankees, Brewers, Rays,
Speaker 1: everyone wants to hear right in anybody. I don't care
Speaker 1: you get whoever, who, I'll send him whatever, wherever you
Speaker 1: give us the best prospect, give me, give me JoJo's
Speaker 1: I heartstrut. Please. But he's been trying, I think for
Speaker 1: months now, to try and distinguish separate between his slither
Speaker 1: which is now more sweepersh and his like tiler curveball.
Speaker 1: I think finally lest he starts has actually been able
Speaker 1: to do that. Those shapes have looked distinct. He's been
Speaker 1: able to mix them in different spots and truly get
Speaker 1: the glove side movement on that slider more so, and
Speaker 1: the heart down action on the curveball, and the fact
Speaker 1: again the fastball's ben Zippi. It was kind of lagging
Speaker 1: for a while. He missed tons of bass. Today he
Speaker 1: was getting tons of ugly swings out of his own.
Speaker 1: It just wound up being his command to the Dodgers
Speaker 1: being incredibly patient and kind of making him work harder
Speaker 1: than he had to. But he's this is still someone
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to beat. This drum will demand
Speaker 1: a lot in trade package, and I think the second
Speaker 1: he's in a good situation with a winning team, I
Speaker 1: think he's probably gonna repoff a nice stretch. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: just seems like probably not a right fit here.
Speaker 2: I think I saw I saw a bunch of people
Speaker 2: tweeting out like the most insane things this weekend, and
Speaker 2: of course you had old Boob Nightingale doing his like
Speaker 2: whenever it's about the Mets. They're desperate, They're this, they're that,
Speaker 2: whatever the crazy wording that's going to be used. I
Speaker 2: will talk about the Curtis meeting Connelly early trade too
Speaker 2: because I got to talk about Buster Olne's tweeted about it.
Speaker 2: But also at the same time, like when you look
Speaker 2: at the pitching market and the guys who will definitely
Speaker 2: be available, obviously it starts and ends with Trek Scoogle.
Speaker 2: He is in a class of his own is completely different.
Speaker 2: Right now, we don't know if he's definitely availed, he's
Speaker 2: getting traded. I think he probably is, but they haven't.
Speaker 2: It seems like that's not firmly.
Speaker 1: Been or fair.
Speaker 2: Freddy Pralta is definitely getting traded, and of the other
Speaker 2: guys available is he's in that tier two. So like
Speaker 2: I think the Mets are going to get a borderline
Speaker 2: top one hundred prospect. They might even might even get
Speaker 2: a pretty comfortable top seventy five, maybe at the absolute ceiling,
Speaker 2: and then I think they're gonna look to get a
Speaker 2: second guy who's either a big helium guy but still
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in. They want good prospects. Freddy
Speaker 2: Praulta is going to fetch back a decent haul. That
Speaker 2: might be the best thing that Freddy Pralta ever does
Speaker 2: is New York met get us some pieces back.
Speaker 1: And if that's what he gets us, fine at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, if you can get something relatively
Speaker 1: close to the package that you gave up, and sprot
Speaker 1: and Jet right now, sprote Is tell a star that
Speaker 1: that's trying to work his way off the fringe, but
Speaker 1: the stuff's exciting. And Jets a prospect who's lost tons
Speaker 1: of helium in the last year. And you still have
Speaker 1: a chance to make something of Tobias Myers over the
Speaker 1: next like four years. So like there's still the way
Speaker 1: the arbitrage is. And make this not we won't have
Speaker 1: to look back upon this one of the worst trades
Speaker 1: in mess history. Just be a regular bad one. Yeah
Speaker 1: it We'll just I mean, there be a long list
Speaker 1: of the bad David Sterns trade. Some way, somehow, this
Speaker 1: one ends up being there. He's kind of trade for
Speaker 1: more unproven players.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: I also think we Mark and I've been flirting with
Speaker 1: this idea for a while. They were waiting for after
Speaker 1: the trade deadline to do it, because man, this challenge
Speaker 1: is gonna be the Doldrums. Then we're gonna go through
Speaker 1: long video and we're gonna grade or at least review,
Speaker 1: every single move in the David Sterns era.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we go chronologically like from Tyrone Taylor and
Speaker 1: from Adrian House there. Yeah, and then we sever you know,
Speaker 1: and we go all the way to the trade deadline
Speaker 1: trades that we're going to see by next week.
Speaker 2: Do we start with the first move that David Stearns
Speaker 2: ever made, which was firing Buck Showalter.
Speaker 1: I'd be okay to start with that. Yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool,
Speaker 1: that's super cool with me. But again, that was another
Speaker 1: big thing in this series. I guess instead of talking
Speaker 1: game by game, let's just nail all the pitchers and
Speaker 1: then talk about the small stuff. Yeah. And then also
Speaker 1: like you guys don't care about it about the games, Yeah,
Speaker 1: bladles want to be as positive as I can for
Speaker 1: the first year. Short it's because it's hard to find
Speaker 1: any of that right now. Like Sean and I I
Speaker 1: think pitch quite well on Friday, Like that was the
Speaker 1: version of Sean and I think we hope to see
Speaker 1: in general, that's a version of Sean and I that
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw up with them paying him
Speaker 1: twenty one million dollars next year.
Speaker 2: I've got to did you see what the White Sox
Speaker 2: apparently are saying what that they would take They they're
Speaker 2: desperately wanting starting pitching. They don't want to move a
Speaker 2: top prospect, but they will eat the money. Do you
Speaker 2: think that there's ever a world you could like pawn
Speaker 2: off shanman I or do you want to keep them?
Speaker 1: I mean, I would definitely trade him if we could,
Speaker 1: just to clear things up, But I think Sean and
Speaker 1: I would then wind up having the highest single year
Speaker 1: aav in White Sox history. Yeah, I think I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're willing to take on that much money.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been like a Foster Griffin
Speaker 1: comment or something instead of Seawan M and I come
Speaker 1: three mil. I don't think they're trying to take on
Speaker 1: twenty mil next year for a guy that you still
Speaker 1: don't know. But no, if you split back to when
Speaker 1: Shawm and I started to look okay and pitching deeper
Speaker 1: into games, it was the middle of May May seventeenth.
Speaker 1: He's got three point seventy five RA over thirteen hours,
Speaker 1: and half of those being stars. All of those at
Speaker 1: least three four innings and again recently now it's been
Speaker 1: more like five or six. He and Gary and Ronnie
Speaker 1: were talking about this. I haven't seen him this confident
Speaker 1: in his fastball. I felt like in two.
Speaker 2: Years since twenty twenty four when he was confident in
Speaker 2: that fastball literally and like it doesn't sound like a
Speaker 2: big deal for most guys in the league before Shawn.
Speaker 2: It is where it was ninety one to ninety three
Speaker 2: basically the entire night until that last inning, and he
Speaker 2: was doing something that he used to do back then,
Speaker 2: which is what made shawmana is such a difficult at bat,
Speaker 2: where with that crazy release point and extension, he was
Speaker 2: really comfortable going inside to pitters from both sides of
Speaker 2: the plate. Yes, like the way he was able to
Speaker 2: work both sides. I was like, that is really good.
Speaker 2: And again he was confident that fastball.
Speaker 1: He used it sixty one percent in time the double
Speaker 1: his season average, Like it was a really that in
Speaker 1: itself was encouraging. Got a lot of help from Carson
Speaker 1: benj as well with the one hundred mile an hour
Speaker 1: throw a home. But that was another one where like
Speaker 1: if Shawm and I is sp three to four next year.
Speaker 1: I don't want to puke. No, I mean i'd prefer before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: i'd prefer four, but like months of him being good, yes,
Speaker 1: I would agree. I he's not pukeable right now. He's
Speaker 1: a major league pitcher. He's more than a major league pittcher.
Speaker 1: He'd be one of the best pitchers on this team.
Speaker 1: He is one of the best pictures on the seat.
Speaker 1: I mean again, awkwardly of four good pictures right now. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: Christian's gotten Olan maclan don't tell some of the other
Speaker 1: people that we have some good pitching. We're oping you
Speaker 1: guys back and again McLain in that start on Saturday, great,
Speaker 1: Like I love the fact that I can still kind
Speaker 1: of get a little bit uiced up for McLean pitching
Speaker 1: against another one of the best pitchers in baseball, though
Speaker 1: another one of tho starts where I thought the curveball
Speaker 1: he had better feel forth even though some missed by
Speaker 1: a lot. And again he's gotten himself so comfortable and
Speaker 1: confident in that high fastball, which is a weapon. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even say he came into the season with. I
Speaker 1: would say trying to use that pictures would blow him
Speaker 1: up in the world Baseball classic Yeah, a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 1: way back when. But like it was like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: watching this version Nolan McLain. He still doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: it's all quite right, and he's still just so unbelievably effective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean got that right down to three point three. Like,
Speaker 2: this stuff looked really good.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for the Brett Bady error, it's a
Speaker 2: much cleaner line for him. But something happens to Brett
Speaker 2: Bady when he plays first base that I can't even
Speaker 2: believe it.
Speaker 1: He just malfunctions. That was such a bad play.
Speaker 2: It was It's like a nice play to actually get
Speaker 2: to the ball, be athletic, and then the throw it
Speaker 2: was just doink right off the helmet, not even give
Speaker 2: us a chance to get one out. The game moves
Speaker 2: fast for Brett Baty at times, and especially when he's
Speaker 2: playing these new positions, it looks like it's moving at
Speaker 2: a million miles an hour.
Speaker 1: When I watch Brett Baty play third base, like just
Speaker 1: looking at his boduy of movements to the way he
Speaker 1: can like grab a ground ball and make those throws
Speaker 1: from their base, I'm like, this guy has the tools
Speaker 1: to be like one of the best defensive first basement
Speaker 1: in baseball, purely based on tools. But when he puts
Speaker 1: on the new glove and stands on that side of
Speaker 1: the diamonds, he's a lost animal and it's terrible. And
Speaker 1: then also the media fire not the media, the Twitter firestorm.
Speaker 1: When it looked like Lindor could have watched that catch,
Speaker 1: people were so ready to completely blame him. Again, don't
Speaker 1: really get it, but whatever do you. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: how it goes. That's just it. But again, it felt
Speaker 1: like that kind of botch some of the momentum for McLay,
Speaker 1: especially when Alvarez has one of the worst pass balls
Speaker 1: I've ever seen right after that, as rumors around him
Speaker 1: continue to swirl as well, and again like just hard
Speaker 1: to get the chase. His misses were bad, but you
Speaker 1: watch Nolan McClain pitch, I'm just so confident that we're
Speaker 1: watching a guy who's going to be just such an
Speaker 1: absolute dude for a while.
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Speaker 2: think flashed lately, CNL Perez. I know the era is high,
Speaker 2: but they've got him up to like ninety nine right
Speaker 2: now from the left side, and he makes he forces
Speaker 2: some really ugly whiffs. Yes, does Yeah, I never want
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Speaker 1: As a pop up bullpenk guy. We're trying to leave
Speaker 1: this stretch with anything we can, you know, grab onto
Speaker 1: like he feels like one of them. Yeah, definitely, I
Speaker 1: mean a Tyrone tale il Be saying with Tyrone Taylor Leaves,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: But he's playing some He's playing like the best baseball
Speaker 2: he's probably ever played in his life and a big
Speaker 2: reason why he has made changes at the plate. He
Speaker 2: is swinging the bat significantly harder than he has previously,
Speaker 2: and what do you know, his quality of contact is
Speaker 2: way way up. He's playing inspired baseball.
Speaker 1: And the way that we're seeing any apps, any competent
Speaker 1: right handed hit there in any way seem like they're
Speaker 1: going to go for like starting pitcher prices on the market.
Speaker 1: It's a good sign that right now, you can sell
Speaker 1: Tyrone Taylor as a plus defender who has a better
Speaker 1: than league average bats Cleveland Guardians, Can I interest you
Speaker 1: in him? Oh, it's a Tyrone Taylor Louise Robert package
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Guardians that could change both to game.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking that we've been talking about this in
Speaker 1: a lot of the other videos and some of the
Speaker 1: Mets stuff we've talked about in the wind up as well, where.
Speaker 2: I really want the best to package these guys together
Speaker 2: just to try and.
Speaker 1: Get the most possible. I just want quality over quantity
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that might be not how
Speaker 1: some people feel about this, but I just want to
Speaker 1: get my hands on any prospects who are showing that
Speaker 1: they have the chance to be like kind of like
Speaker 1: rocket ship guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna probably package the outfielders, but
Speaker 2: I think that we're gonna see I think outfielders this
Speaker 2: is gonna be tough. I do think that we're gonna
Speaker 2: see this pitchers get packaged together, though, like I feel
Speaker 2: like it, it's impossible not to try and get whoever
Speaker 2: trades for Freddy praulta or Clay Holmes to be like,
Speaker 2: why don't you take Brooks Raylei aj Minterer two?
Speaker 1: Look, Luke Weaver right here, you don't want this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like there there, there's gonna be packages made. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been good.
Speaker 2: Tyrone Taylor, though, is gonna go get us a real
Speaker 2: toolsy nineteen year.
Speaker 1: Old in the DSL. I'm open, I mean fingers crossed
Speaker 1: on that one. Also, it was kind of like a
Speaker 1: punch in the gut to watch Kyle Talker have a
Speaker 1: good series. Oh yeah, he woke up completely like I
Speaker 1: don't know what the opposite of of like Buyer's like
Speaker 1: buyer's remorse would be, but that's definitely how Kyle Talker
Speaker 1: must feel walking into City Field. If this was actually
Speaker 1: like a series consideration form any point in his free agency,
Speaker 1: he must be like, Wow, what a bullet I.
Speaker 2: Dodged, I mean dodged quite the bullet. Indeed, although maybe
Speaker 2: the season would.
Speaker 1: Look different, I don't know maybe, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: butterfly effect. This was season from hell, through and through
Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys just sucking. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: did you.
Speaker 2: See all the conversation about aj ewing this weekend?
Speaker 1: Too? Again? I was a non a workout this weekend.
Speaker 2: A lot of people talking about how apparently scouts around
Speaker 2: the league have said that it's it's obvious that the
Speaker 2: grind has hit aj Ewing and Carson bench. This is
Speaker 2: how long the major league baseball season. It was like,
Speaker 2: they're playing good baseball.
Speaker 1: I don't really know where this is coming from. I mean,
Speaker 1: we mentioned that last episode because there was a bit
Speaker 1: of again, there was some people upset that for these
Speaker 1: next two weeks only because we have to showcase lose
Speaker 1: Robert for a trade and basically only for these next
Speaker 1: six days, yeah, that those guys would get regular off days,
Speaker 1: And we were like, I think that's good because again,
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize that the minor league season
Speaker 1: is like fifty games short than the major league seasons
Speaker 1: long season for these guys. We saw Francisco Alvarez hit
Speaker 1: that wall figures going his first season.
Speaker 2: And they have guaranteed off days every single week in
Speaker 2: the minor League's really Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like a Monday or Thursday, no matter what. I think,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Six games on, six games off, or I mean six
Speaker 2: games on one game off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then six again. Yeah, So again makes sense for
Speaker 1: these guys to get a day, and we have to
Speaker 1: mention the fact that Wan so those injured, it looks
Speaker 1: like one to two months, fine, whatever, let them be
Speaker 1: the year. Good news looks like Mike Talkman's back soon,
Speaker 1: so oh, thank god, we're gonna we're gonna plug that
Speaker 1: hole up real quick. After that, his lineup, it's sad
Speaker 1: with Oh, it's a sad I don't know how many
Speaker 1: more times throughout the year we're gonna score eight runs
Speaker 1: without Wan Soto win this lineup, especially because the number
Speaker 1: I think Boba shed has one extra base hit in
Speaker 1: the month of July, which just can't.
Speaker 2: I heard something I don't remember if it was when
Speaker 2: Gary was doing the game or if it was when
Speaker 2: we got to hear Joe Davis, thank God, talking about
Speaker 2: how Bobashett was like, I need to get back to
Speaker 2: be an rhythmic hitter, and I was like, I think
Speaker 2: you need to get back to swinging at strikes because
Speaker 2: against yeah, it was against Rochi, I was like, Roki's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw you the splitter a hundred times.
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Roki. Watching that star had me
Speaker 1: really buying back in on Roki. Yeah, it's a rollercoaster
Speaker 1: with him. He looked good.
Speaker 2: He looked great in this start without doubt, and he's
Speaker 2: throwing harder. I do wonder how long it lasts. And
Speaker 2: one of the big things that was scary about Roki
Speaker 2: when he came over from Japan, all the Japanese fans
Speaker 2: were talking about that elbows hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 2: I'm worried how long this velo can actually without the
Speaker 2: significant injury risk. But this start unlike the last start,
Speaker 2: like it was better velo, but wasn't like the start
Speaker 2: last Friday against the Yankees, where it was like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna throw more one hundred miles ourt of pitches than
Speaker 2: I have in my major league career at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've never seen Rokie nail spots with the fastball and
Speaker 2: the slide. They're consistently like he did like that, and
Speaker 2: then when he's nailing those spots, that's splither and again
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 1: Kind of called ankle problem. When he's nailing the spots
Speaker 1: to that fast stuff, and then you could drop the
Speaker 1: splither off and you actually have to be prepared for
Speaker 1: him to hit a spot. It's like, oh, I have
Speaker 1: no chance right now that it's got a big glove. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got like like fifteen whips on that splitter. It
Speaker 1: was crazy. He was absolutely dominant. I didn't have a chance.
Speaker 1: I loved him. Gary and Ron talking about him too,
Speaker 1: because again, similar to most Mets fans, they take in
Speaker 1: so much more Mets baseball than other baseball. Ron definitely
Speaker 1: bit more because he does more national games. So they
Speaker 1: were talking all about Rokie's accolades, like the fact that
Speaker 1: he got he retired fifty six consecutive batters. He's twenty
Speaker 1: years old in the MPB. He's a freak. Like that's
Speaker 1: like you hear that, You're like, oh my god, yeah
Speaker 1: I do this guy actually is still a phenom. But
Speaker 1: think worse. Yeah, the first year and a half is
Speaker 1: kind dulled to shine. But you watch that, You're like,
Speaker 1: this is is potentially he is insane. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then you got people like me calling him soft because
Speaker 2: he cries. All yeah, but like, I mean, that's a
Speaker 2: take I'm gonna have no matter what, that's not gonna stop.
Speaker 2: If you cry as an adult on the baseball field
Speaker 2: like that and your name's not Wilmer Flores, you're soft two.
Speaker 1: Whether twenty two is an adult, I don't know if
Speaker 1: twenty two is an adult. I was hanging out my
Speaker 1: cousins today. I don't think twenty two is an adult.
Speaker 1: Twenty two year old is a stupid adult. But they
Speaker 1: could drink their adult true, that's true. Drink you could drink,
Speaker 1: and separately you can drive, play lottery to all that
Speaker 1: stuff separately, separately, separately and very important word there, But
Speaker 1: I think again, it's basically it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what else would I like to talk about from
Speaker 2: this series? I mean, Francisco Avres continues to be great
Speaker 2: at the plate. Defensively he's a complete disaster, but offensively
Speaker 2: he looks phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Still.
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Speaker 1: So let's do those transition now, talking more about the trademark. Cool,
Speaker 1: we got a really good indication about how things look
Speaker 1: right now, just in a sense, maybe or maybe not
Speaker 1: because Craig is a mad man. But on Saturday night,
Speaker 1: if you guys are sickles like Mark and I, you
Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about Curtis meet for Connolly Early. I
Speaker 1: think it's one of the most fascinating, like like trades
Speaker 1: to seek out value in the market that currently exists
Speaker 1: in like the last few years, and thinking about what
Speaker 1: CURTI me gott in five and a half years of
Speaker 1: control of a left handed starting pitchrew I think has
Speaker 1: monster potential Connolly Early. It does make me think about
Speaker 1: how value positionless right handed hitler who can mash could
Speaker 1: be on this market. Oh, I'll never I think.
Speaker 2: The first thing I texted you is I'll never forgive
Speaker 2: Mark Viento's for completely shitting a fucking brick.
Speaker 1: I know he's not gonna play. He could never play
Speaker 1: second base.
Speaker 2: He could barely play the position that he's been playing
Speaker 2: his entire life.
Speaker 1: You see Mark Fianto's second base. Yeah, Mark Vianto's if
Speaker 1: he plays second base. I'm like, they'd be like playing
Speaker 1: with seven defense.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying no that I'm like using that as
Speaker 2: like my argument of like, I understand it's not one
Speaker 2: to one Curtis met and Mark Viento's comp but the
Speaker 2: idea is there's a lot of similarities in that Curtis
Speaker 2: Mead is an optionless guy who really doesn't play the
Speaker 2: field well almost anywhere. They're gonna play him at second base.
Speaker 2: I think you said he fielded eight ground balls at
Speaker 2: that position this year for zero oaa.
Speaker 1: He might be complete dog shit there. It's a good chance. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I was transitioning to this conversation in talking
Speaker 1: about Francisco Alvarez, where I think Francisco Alvarez is probably
Speaker 1: a slightly better catcher than Curtis Meat will be a
Speaker 1: second baseman, yeah, probably right. And Francisco Alvarez is a
Speaker 1: right handed bat that could mash. I think we've we
Speaker 1: have an over index because having a left handed bat
Speaker 1: is pure cheat code. I think so many teams are
Speaker 1: so lefty heavy, and we've seen the Mets to this
Speaker 1: the last few years, where a tough left he comes
Speaker 1: on the manager like, ah, shit, we can't, we can't
Speaker 1: hit this guy. Like the Yankee talk about it all
Speaker 1: the time, how they need right handed bats. So anybody
Speaker 1: have Rob Refsneider, where's he lying around? But it's to
Speaker 1: see a rite a flawed right handed hither again, like
Speaker 1: you said, with no options, who's had half of a
Speaker 1: good season at the big league level, who's twenty five
Speaker 1: years old, who was once a really highly taed prospect,
Speaker 1: was DFA twice in the last calendar year. Yeah, picked
Speaker 1: up by his current team in like March, I think,
Speaker 1: or April, like the first week of April. It does
Speaker 1: make me think about how absolutely insane a return for
Speaker 1: Francisco Overres could possibly be.
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be absurd, And I think that's why teams,
Speaker 2: I ultimately think that's why he's not going to be traded.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why whoever wanted that to be
Speaker 2: floated out there was like, well see.
Speaker 1: Let's see what comes knocking.
Speaker 2: Let's try and find out what this market is going
Speaker 2: to look like, because, like you said, if Curtis Meat
Speaker 2: is going to command Connelly early back, who I think,
Speaker 2: coming into the season was like one of the most
Speaker 2: exciting left handed pitching prospects in baseball. I know, I
Speaker 2: don't know if he's still technically had the prospect shine,
Speaker 2: but I'm calling him that.
Speaker 1: Start Game three of the Red Sox, at least the
Speaker 1: last Red Sox elimination game.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, like prospect shine, like if he's
Speaker 2: technically if he was technically classified as one, but like
Speaker 2: it's not like he's pitched bad this year.
Speaker 1: He had the injury.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty much the one smudge that you'd
Speaker 2: put on his resume right now. But otherwise he was
Speaker 2: one of the most exciting left handed pitchers young in baseball,
Speaker 2: and he did just get moved for a a right
Speaker 2: handed power bat that is still relatively unproven. I know
Speaker 2: a lot of things under the hood have looked good
Speaker 2: this year, great, but I mean, Curtis Meade up until
Speaker 2: June wasn't playing every single day, So like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Red Sox overpaid. But maybe that's
Speaker 2: what the market is. And I'll tell you what if
Speaker 2: that is what the market's gonna look like for this deadline,
Speaker 2: it is a great time to be a seller.
Speaker 1: And that's why, again, why I'm trying to position this
Speaker 1: specifically about Alvarez, because something could come to your desk
Speaker 1: where it's just too good to turn down. I think
Speaker 1: that's why they put that out there. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's why. Also that press conference for David Stearns on
Speaker 1: Friday that you continue to, you know, smirks and smug markings.
Speaker 1: I was tagging a lot of a couple of videos
Speaker 1: about so you guys, you see the smirk here? You
Speaker 1: guys said you missed the smirk?
Speaker 2: What is it about the smirking that gets people? So
Speaker 2: I feel like Jerry Seinfeld there, what is it about
Speaker 2: the smirk?
Speaker 1: The one that I was tagged in a bunch was
Speaker 1: the one where someone was like, you could you have
Speaker 1: to grieve the season? He's like, I'm too busy to grieve, man.
Speaker 1: I saw people.
Speaker 2: I think it was just laughing. I think it was Braziller.
Speaker 2: Is that the guy's name. I think he asked him
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 1: Like do you grieve? He started laughing. Look at him laughing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's a fucking insane question. If we
Speaker 1: can't understand the absurdity of asking the president baseball operations
Speaker 1: of the Mets if he's grieving having to trade some
Speaker 1: of the guys. What the fuck are we talking about?
Speaker 1: If you have like a really thick long Island accent
Speaker 1: and you try to say the animal gorilla and then
Speaker 1: Zach Braziller, that's that's a rhyme Coller, Yeah, Zila. But
Speaker 1: it's just I think I think you just wear the
Speaker 1: spot where it's fine. Fans have their opinions, it's not
Speaker 1: going to change. Yeah, one hundred percent. And this team
Speaker 1: is absolute dogshit. We have to contracts on the roster. Underwater.
Speaker 1: There's a good tweet from a Noah Danglar. I saw it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. I want to read that right now. No
Speaker 1: one's doing good. No it just made a really cool
Speaker 1: tool called ephis and why you're right now doing sabermetrics.
Speaker 1: Cool dude, I've been yeah, yeah, happen with him. But
Speaker 1: whereas I want to see this one about how much
Speaker 1: war the mess have gone for the crew of players.
Speaker 1: It's zero point eight yeah, and all of them are
Speaker 1: under contract next year. Here's this bo Bob Bachette, Horiy Bolanco,
Speaker 1: Marcus Simeon, Sean and i At Devin Williams CA Sanga
Speaker 1: have produced accumulative zero point eight war this season. So
Speaker 1: far the Mets have. The Mets plaid the total of
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty two million dollars for this group
Speaker 1: of six players, and all of them are under contract
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's absolutely absurd. How unvaluable all these
Speaker 2: guys have been.
Speaker 1: This is again it's a shocking. Who's accumulating all the
Speaker 1: war on the Mets? Yeah? Who's actually getting the war? There?
Speaker 1: We're not a cue between that crew?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do we get to point eight? Because I
Speaker 2: think Bobachet's like right around zero, is he not?
Speaker 1: And Blanco it has to be around zero semi, he's
Speaker 1: got to be a negative and that's the worst in baseball.
Speaker 1: That's definitely a lot of minaia at Devin Williams. Let's see.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he's using fangrafts or not for the
Speaker 2: for the war on that one?
Speaker 1: Do we know?
Speaker 2: I would assume this is a fangrass boy. Okay, so
Speaker 2: that would make sense because I'm fangraft wore. Bobochet's got
Speaker 2: one the negatives. Now now we're we're in the ye.
Speaker 2: I can see the vision because on Baseball Reference, I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know how.
Speaker 1: We get there? No, not at all, especially because like
Speaker 1: reference like strikeouts get out of town. Anyway you slice it,
Speaker 1: it's an absolute disaster. No, this is I think this
Speaker 1: is going to be an exciting thing. Is not the word.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very what the Red Sox they want Bobachett.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe fu fucked, but they would have to
Speaker 1: guarantee that you don't sign that contract to opt out,
Speaker 1: just that you're gonna opt out. It's like an you
Speaker 1: take an opt out at gunpoint.
Speaker 2: God, bobas sheet, God damn it, dude, in a bad season,
Speaker 2: you couldn't even be good enough to be traded.
Speaker 1: No, I really just wish he could hit better. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. He's got again on the hits.
Speaker 1: We've got bobichet defensive specialists on this team. Doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. No, it's it's honestly a sick fucking joke
Speaker 1: that it really is one of the most five years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the glove's perfect. It's exactly what they need to beef
Speaker 1: to actually make that contract not feel underwater. If you've
Speaker 1: got average Boba shed production at the plate.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I mean, god, Mark Fientos, if you
Speaker 2: hit for anything, you would have been traded for something valuable.
Speaker 1: It seems like, which is insane to say, how loud.
Speaker 1: Interestingly coming up, though, I think the Mets are gonna
Speaker 1: make some of the first trades that actually go down
Speaker 1: this week. I think we're gonna be highly involved in
Speaker 1: like every single conversation. It's the sellers are have all
Speaker 1: the power right now. It seems like it's this is
Speaker 1: going to be a fun Okay, fund's the wrong word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fund's not the wrong word. Get an interesting word. Interesting
Speaker 1: week for the Mets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at the standings right now, just talking Bigger
Speaker 2: Baseball about teams that are probably gonna be firm sellers.
Speaker 2: I think the Marlins are gonna be sellers right now,
Speaker 2: considering they can't win a baseball game for their life.
Speaker 1: It's the shame.
Speaker 2: Mets are obviously gonna sell. The Reds are going to
Speaker 2: sell even though they're only five games out, but they're
Speaker 2: gonna sell. I think don't have much to sell. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a bad team. I don't think the Cardinals are
Speaker 2: gonna sell no way. Giants will sell anything they possibly can,
Speaker 2: Rockies will sell anything they possibly can. Mets have better
Speaker 2: players than those teams, so, like Luis arrives as the
Speaker 2: one trump card over any of the guys that Mets
Speaker 2: really have right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but a Rise isn't gonna go for a lot.
Speaker 1: He's a rental and I still think a lot of
Speaker 1: teams won't super buy into the defensive resurgence. We'll see who.
Speaker 2: Trades for him, and that will kind of tell us
Speaker 2: if they think the defense is real or not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Blue Jays are probably selling Blue Jess. Gosman is the
Speaker 2: foil to bar Alta on the mast, but he's similarly
Speaker 2: pitching horribly for two straight months now. And it's different
Speaker 2: of Freddy's all stuff, no command, and Gosman's got no
Speaker 2: stuff anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, No, it's command to a Gosman because it just
Speaker 1: as a two pitch guy. When he loses that fastball,
Speaker 1: then he can't there. Titters aren't chasing the split and
Speaker 1: they needs to come back in the zone with the fastball.
Speaker 1: It's not a great fastball, and that's how that's gonna go.
Speaker 1: But he also can cost you three times as much
Speaker 1: dollars as a team for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: So that's how Freddy continues to again, like we keep
Speaker 1: trying to harp on come back and be a significant
Speaker 1: piece of this deadline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Angels, they suck like their guys are all controllable.
Speaker 2: They're gonna ask for a ton the a's. I don't
Speaker 2: really know who they are gonna trade. We we had
Speaker 2: this conversation on the Lindup where like, they have no pitching,
Speaker 2: that's who you would move. You're not moving any of
Speaker 2: the hitters.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, at least I mean Jeff McNeil.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Jeff McNeil. Did you see Tyrone Taylor's living
Speaker 2: in Jeff mc neil's house. That's really cool that Tyrone
Speaker 2: was talking about how this is the first season that
Speaker 2: he's had his family live with him in New York
Speaker 2: uh during the year, and they're renting out Jeff McNeil's
Speaker 2: house in Long Island.
Speaker 1: That's really sick. Now, now I'm actually said he's gonna get traded.
Speaker 1: Now I feel bad. I feel really bad. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what happens is this season. It's a gotta agree
Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah, gotta agree if you are the season.
Speaker 1: And also you gotta give yourself a little bit of credit.
Speaker 2: Who said that Mark Fiantos a little bit of props?
Speaker 2: Was that what it was gonta give myself a little
Speaker 2: a little props.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a Shane. He's gonna play so much more
Speaker 1: in the second half. That's gonna be depressing to watch.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get hot too, by the way, Yeah, great
Speaker 1: buyas backing for next to him baby. But just a
Speaker 1: couple more things to talk about. One, happy for Carlos
Speaker 1: Beltron Hall of Famer METS hat in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I like that we wore the cool hats on Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the black house with the blue brims. That was a
Speaker 1: classic Mets hat. I feel like we had way more
Speaker 1: drip in the two thousands, oh so much more drip.
Speaker 2: But this is also the to get into a jersey
Speaker 2: talk here a little bit something I'm passionate about and
Speaker 2: fanatics coming over and taking over her majestic and now
Speaker 2: like there's like stupid rules about the amount of jerseys
Speaker 2: that you can have. Remember when the black jersey first
Speaker 2: got rolled out, they could only wear them like six
Speaker 2: times during the season. I don't know why as a
Speaker 2: league that is claiming there's such a lack of revenue
Speaker 2: coming in that we might have a lockout and have
Speaker 2: to put in a salary cap to make sure everyone's
Speaker 2: making money. I've got a really really easy way, more merchandise.
Speaker 2: The NBA sells a billion jerseys. Do it make more?
Speaker 2: Who's complaining? Seriously?
Speaker 1: I checked the other day if Fanatics had gone back
Speaker 1: in stock of Landry Shamba jerseys and they still had
Speaker 1: you still since the NBA finals. If you want to
Speaker 1: get me a niche issue right here, But guy, I
Speaker 1: gotsawn a four year deal that I wanted Shamba jersey.
Speaker 1: You have to accustom jersey right now on Fanatics again,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely ridiculous. But out the sports.
Speaker 2: I tried to buy Adulton Varshow jersey last year during
Speaker 2: the playoffs because I did like giveaway of it, and
Speaker 2: I had to wait until I believe, like April fifteenth
Speaker 2: this year to get it to the guy.
Speaker 1: What couldn't even order custom ones. It was app absolutely insane,
Speaker 1: Like they've absolutely fucked it big time. I there should
Speaker 1: be more jerseys like the black Mets jersey where it
Speaker 1: says New York across the front as opposed to Mets.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Also, I don't know who dictated the rule
Speaker 1: this weekend that these teams who had players going into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame or just teams in general. Every
Speaker 1: team was wearing it. They were wearing mismatched hats and jerseys,
Speaker 1: Like why were the Diamondbacks wearing their cool purple hat
Speaker 1: and their awful maroon gray jerseys?
Speaker 2: Why would we not do an entire Cooperstown like collection
Speaker 2: that weekend? Like everybody wears a Cooperstown jersey for the weekend.
Speaker 2: And guess what, you could sell a million of them.
Speaker 2: You got idiots like me, We're gonna buy them all up.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. We want to buy these things.
Speaker 1: That's the most annoying part about what's happened to take
Speaker 1: my money sports merchandising, Like the San Diego Padres two
Speaker 1: from Enos Aires. He's like, someone should have vi tho
Speaker 1: this hat in Unicombo. It was insane. It's the Navy
Speaker 1: San Diego hat that they wore like ten ish years ago,
Speaker 1: and then a brown and yellow jersey. Why are you
Speaker 1: wearing this?
Speaker 2: A lot of people really don't do think and it
Speaker 2: seems like at times, and what should be truthfully one
Speaker 2: of the easiest decisions, wear more jerseys, nice things again,
Speaker 2: We'll buy them.
Speaker 1: We want to buy some sports where I got a cool,
Speaker 1: Mike Piazza, retro batting practice, Mitchell and next Jery is
Speaker 1: this week. So I've got a mester is in a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, it's like the orange one. Yeah with
Speaker 1: the blue fringe. Great sick jersey again cool. I want
Speaker 1: to buy cool jerseys. I still love the Medaic because
Speaker 1: that's the one that I have. Do you have the
Speaker 1: orange one? I think I do. I know you had
Speaker 1: that way, I've never seen you wear that. It doesn't
Speaker 1: it's a it's a thick jersey, Okay, I see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a it's an April May jersey.
Speaker 1: It's April May septembers over Yah to put over a
Speaker 1: hoodie jersey. That's what I'm saying. And again he'll beat
Speaker 1: the ballpark September again. Discord link is in the description.
Speaker 1: We want to get you guys in discords if we
Speaker 1: want to organize some messed up community events at the
Speaker 1: stay for them, people seem lack comments about them. But
Speaker 1: we want to beat you guys. We want to chill,
Speaker 1: We want to hang out city Field. We want to
Speaker 1: just do some really stupid when we get there, and
Speaker 1: especially now that we all get ten dollars for free.
Speaker 1: It's like five dollars beers. I can't wait. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be really trying to get people in the door, and
Speaker 1: they should be.
Speaker 2: But other things to talk about, Uh, Jonathan Santucci promoted
Speaker 2: triple A.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. We're probab We're goin to get to see
Speaker 1: Santuci to the major league this year now, which is nice,
Speaker 1: or at least have a shot early next season. You
Speaker 1: probably give him one look in September. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I'm just excited for Santuci to get
Speaker 1: the triple as. I really want to see just the
Speaker 1: pitch data. I want to see where the change it is,
Speaker 1: if it's coming along, where the where was I gonna say,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just lost my train of thought.
Speaker 1: Where the fastball shape is, if you can actually miss
Speaker 1: bats in the zone against major league di is like
Speaker 1: there's a lot to learn about public for public data
Speaker 1: with John the Santucci. So I can determine how excited
Speaker 1: I feel like he's been ripping right for like the
Speaker 1: last two months now destroy double A. But again, it's
Speaker 1: he's the kind of thing where those big lefties who
Speaker 1: have a nice breaking ball can kind of just rip
Speaker 1: apart those levels then, similar to John Tong with his fastball,
Speaker 1: want to get a triple A? We could, We could
Speaker 1: try to figure it out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm waiting for when I can't wait?
Speaker 2: I can't wait for Brooks Raley, AJ Mintor to be
Speaker 2: traded and I get to see the major league debut
Speaker 2: of my boy, Jeffrey Yon, the most electric pitcher.
Speaker 1: In baseball, Lefty.
Speaker 2: He's been dominating triple A walks twenty five percent of
Speaker 2: the guys, striking out forty percent of them.
Speaker 1: Give me some Jeffrey on innings. I can't wait another
Speaker 1: big one too. Mets prospect group. He's big time on
Speaker 1: the Mets lower end of the system. I guess you
Speaker 1: keep the track of his Twitter account, Windy, I see
Speaker 1: yah yeah, yea one hundred eleven mile an hour max
Speaker 1: ex Offlasie whoa sixteen years old? He's sixteen? He's sixteen?
Speaker 1: We signed him, yes, well, when we signed him? How
Speaker 1: old is he now? I think he's still sixteen. We
Speaker 1: just signed him this class. We signed him a few
Speaker 1: months ago. How do you spell his name as wow?
Speaker 1: He's sixteen? Wow? If a high schooler did that, they
Speaker 1: would be getting talked about his numbering overall pick for
Speaker 1: two years. That's pretty sick. I think he was like
Speaker 1: the top sick, top money guy, right he was. And
Speaker 1: I think we grabbing from Yankees get some weirdness in
Speaker 1: their class. Yeah, I mean, there's always some weird stuff
Speaker 1: going on there. I don't know. We're gonna see some
Speaker 1: We're gonna see some interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: Like the Mets are going to stink on the field,
Speaker 2: there is no doubt about it. But we'll somehow find
Speaker 2: a way to take some positives out of all this
Speaker 2: stuff down the stretch, for sure.
Speaker 1: We're trying to. I mean again, you guys also tells
Speaker 1: anything you want here because this this is good to
Speaker 1: get ugly this team the second half. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a lot of uh Nick Morribito playing in the outfield.
Speaker 1: I got a feeling I'm cool with that to me too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fine, let's find out what you got, young blud. Let's
Speaker 1: see some balls run fast again. The talkman ewing more
Speaker 1: budo outfield banjofday. Wow, that's good. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: be in the stadium with a rotisserie chicken club. But
Speaker 1: you've done. You got anything else? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, oh, could I can I find that
Speaker 2: Busser Roleney tweet really quickly?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, let's let's get some hit outs and medium
Speaker 1: marvels quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, I will say this once again. Guys, trade
Speaker 2: deadline season, remember to keep an eye out for the
Speaker 2: real people who actually know what they're talking about. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be looking at aggregators to be breaking news. Feels
Speaker 2: like that's something that I definitely would not trust by
Speaker 2: any means. Okay, here it is Busterrolney. The price the
Speaker 2: Red Sox paid for Curtis met seems excessive. Connelly Early
Speaker 2: has less than a year of service time and looks
Speaker 2: like he'll be a really good starter for a long time.
Speaker 2: But keep in mind that starting pitching is generally plentiful
Speaker 2: in this trade market, while good right handed hitting is scarce.
Speaker 2: A premium was paid for me to who's having his
Speaker 2: best season. If the Mets would have made that trade,
Speaker 2: I think he would have said that this is one
Speaker 2: of the dumbest organizations in baseball. He started by saying,
Speaker 2: seems excessive. Let me tell you why it's not, which.
Speaker 1: Is again why we have these conversations that stemmed from
Speaker 1: a Bob Nightingale report that the Mets are desperate to
Speaker 1: trade Louise Robert Junior, which I mean, no shit, you
Speaker 1: you have to trade the guy, but there's literally a deadline.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the dumping on the Mester making
Speaker 1: a trade like that, where it's like, yeah, sure, getting
Speaker 1: Louise Robert Jr. You want to talk about a high
Speaker 1: risk move. Yeah, we knew what that was. At the time.
Speaker 1: It was called a brutal mistake. I was like, there's
Speaker 1: been a lot of mistakes, trading for him was not
Speaker 1: one of them. I would have made that trade twenty
Speaker 1: times out of twenty. We gave up Louise on Helicunu,
Speaker 1: who might get defayed by the White Sox after this season.
Speaker 1: He's horrendous, Like he's just not very good. And again
Speaker 1: we have to pay money, I do who cares? Who
Speaker 1: gives a shit? It's all of a sudden, now we're
Speaker 1: caring about money again. Well, I mean now on a
Speaker 1: one year deal. We've seen what's going on in like
Speaker 1: a lot of these baseball fans recently. Apparently people do
Speaker 1: really care about billionaires pockets, So I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1: You got to make sure that the billionaires keep as
Speaker 1: much of their money as possible. They've earned it. Have
Speaker 1: you seen the commercial at MLB airs. I don't even
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. The crypt discus.
Speaker 2: One of the funniest things is they have a met
Speaker 2: fan talking about money.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are we doing? How was it bad?
Speaker 2: Can you wear that shit and say that you want
Speaker 2: a salary cap? It is legitimately going to hurt our
Speaker 2: ability to spend.
Speaker 1: This is funny. This guy's a foul territory. Marlin's are
Speaker 1: on a twelve game losing streak right now, the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jumbo Shrimp Marlins triplay team. I saw twelve game losing streak.
Speaker 1: How's that happen? How is it even possible with a catastrophe? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What a catastrophe? What else was there? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: the laughing stuff is funny. The weird discourse around Louise
Speaker 1: Robert trades like it's just so senseless. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: wanted Louise Robert to play a lot better than he
Speaker 1: did this year, but we also know because stop the
Speaker 1: sens have to play. Yeah, just play. That's actually really
Speaker 1: where it is.
Speaker 2: I just I wish he played more because I feel
Speaker 2: like when he was healthy, because clearly he wasn't healthy
Speaker 2: for a moment and tried to play through it, and
Speaker 2: the Mets even tried to get him to play through it.
Speaker 1: Seems like the injury, with the random off days, it
Speaker 1: started popping up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it it did those Yeah, I do remember
Speaker 2: that it didn't work. Oh no, we gave up Louise
Speaker 2: on hell Akunya, who if his last name was Jones,
Speaker 2: no one would care about.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't be a major league player. I think I
Speaker 1: think Roberts played pretty decently in these last few games
Speaker 1: coming off the break. The walks are still there's something time.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get us something more valuable Luisa Helakunya.
Speaker 1: So if you just said that some that Steve Cohen
Speaker 1: had to pay fourteen ish million dollars and you've got
Speaker 1: to upgrade the prospect worth it?
Speaker 2: I also do I have noticed that a lot of
Speaker 2: the complaining about the Luis Robert trade is actually not
Speaker 2: even for Mets fans. It is other fan base is
Speaker 2: telling us how much money we spend. And I said,
Speaker 2: tell me, you tell me you're poor without telling me
Speaker 2: you're poor.
Speaker 1: Yees, Just that doesn't matter. You don't get extra points
Speaker 1: for winning games without spending money.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cool. Sadly he gets really dumb, but I think that's
Speaker 1: that's all I got. Yeah, us think we're good. Uh
Speaker 1: apparently the Mets have been scouting.
Speaker 2: It's I swear this is how you say his name,
Speaker 2: like Terry Yuki Sato third basement in Japan. My Japanese
Speaker 2: source shout out wheels beast. One of the best hitters
Speaker 2: in the league this year, plays third base pretty well.
Speaker 2: Something to keep an eye out for this offseason.
Speaker 1: I think we have fangrafts data on him via TJ
Speaker 1: status and I pulled up for a second. Pulled up
Speaker 1: for a second, just because why not, Yeah, we're here Sato.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's almost spelled like Terry Yaki, but
Speaker 2: instead of why, it's a you.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe who don't have that? Actually, I feel like
Speaker 1: I've seen it floating around. Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: But he he's like put up some of the best numbers,
Speaker 2: uh average ex v low ninety six miles an hour
Speaker 2: in the MPB. He hit a home run one seventeen
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: O kaind of nice good power. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: times though you have to like move everyone down to
Speaker 1: defensive leather grade coming from the MPB. Third basis probably
Speaker 1: end up being a first baseman. We need one of
Speaker 1: those desperately. We could use one of those. Gotta feeling
Speaker 1: Horriy Polock goes almost never gonna play first base again
Speaker 1: for this team. My god, Horry Plank. Every time I
Speaker 1: think of Hory Ploko, get up said, my dad was ripped.
Speaker 1: My dad was just ripping mad about Horiy Ploko, the sunglasses,
Speaker 1: today's coke bottles. I get. I still no hate, no
Speaker 1: shame for Horry Plock. We played great last year. I
Speaker 1: just it's really frustrating how this has all gone down.
Speaker 2: It really makes me upset, absolutely terrible. Wait are we
Speaker 2: doing a series preview?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Rod about that? Yeah, let's do it. Fine, that's okay
Speaker 1: with me. Also played by Luke Weaver today. That was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete.
Speaker 2: I really totally forgot we do serious previews this part
Speaker 2: of the episode. I mean again, you guys are forty
Speaker 2: minutes and you're not coming to hear us talk about
Speaker 2: the series anymore.
Speaker 1: No, the the Brakes to come ass of the Alstar
Speaker 1: break ripping hot. They've only lost three games so far
Speaker 1: they've they've been playing well, they're kind of I think
Speaker 1: they might have like half ended the Padres season. Have
Speaker 1: we only played like seven? I think we played nine
Speaker 1: so far, nine to ten. The breaks are seven to
Speaker 1: three out of the break after I proclaim them dead
Speaker 1: in the end, at least right at the break, of course.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have a big time lefty off on
Speaker 1: Monday night. Oh, Zach Thornton, Martin Perez, right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: god's gonna wait. That's cinema. And then Tuesday, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be in the ballpark for this one Chris Sale versus
Speaker 1: Christian Scott, so Chris OSSes Chris Off. And then Wednesday
Speaker 1: Mattine one pm, Grant Holmes, Sean and I as a
Speaker 1: junk off, I do believe I'll be there for a
Speaker 1: Wednesday's game. Yeah, So if you also, if you want
Speaker 1: to get into those games, just looking right here on
Speaker 1: the ticker at ESPN the ship to tell you the
Speaker 1: cheap ticket eleven dollars, ten dollars, six dollars. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys saw the siki gad earlier in today's episode.
Speaker 2: Go over there, use our code. You're gonna give him
Speaker 2: more money off one hundred per cent SEEKI for this game,
Speaker 2: easy pasy.
Speaker 1: You want to watch Chris Sale pitch legend, Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might as well go out there and just
Speaker 2: have a nice day. Now, Oh what that reminds me?
Speaker 2: Shout out Andrew Claudio, friend of the friend of the podcast.
Speaker 2: I wish I could find the exact tweet, but he
Speaker 2: had a really good tweet the other day talking about
Speaker 2: going to a Mets game and basically like a lot
Speaker 2: of the same sentiment, but said like much nicer than
Speaker 2: mirror you would ever necessarily say it online about how
Speaker 2: ah here it is. Went to City Field tonight easily
Speaker 2: seventy percent. Dodgers fans loud ovations for Otani, Freeman, Betts,
Speaker 2: all their champions and their champions all game. Soto left
Speaker 2: with an injury. Home fans have stopped singing along to
Speaker 2: my Girl. Dodgers won as expected, and yet I wasn't
Speaker 2: bothered at all. Food was good, fireworks were cool. Wife
Speaker 2: and I had fun night out with my sister in law,
Speaker 2: took her and her boyfriend around the stadium for a tour.
Speaker 2: Five years post will Pond and this is where we
Speaker 2: are most, if not all, general baseball watching it enjoyment
Speaker 2: completely drained from its fan base. No anger, no embarrassment
Speaker 2: that your building was taken over, just pure and genuine
Speaker 2: apathy knowing that this is what they are and the
Speaker 2: person who put them together isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's apathetic.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna like it's sad that we're at a
Speaker 2: point where I go have fun. That's why we're going
Speaker 2: to the game, not to watch baseball necessarily.
Speaker 1: Just openly, patently feel nothing for this team right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that should be the biggest olr bel for Steve Gowin homously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. But that's also like, it's kind of it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of you've now created an experience that is
Speaker 1: not reliant on the product. We talk about how much
Speaker 1: we want to figure out that out all the time
Speaker 1: for our stuff. Yeah, literally like that. That's kind of
Speaker 1: what they've achieved with this Mets team. Where good they're bad,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a certain amount of people in that
Speaker 1: stadium and they're gonna love the food and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, have a fun time of the Mets game.
Speaker 1: Oh they played baseball. Didn't even know this, didn't even
Speaker 1: know through a couple of beaths. That's about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really it. Dom Smith returned to the city. Field's
Speaker 1: gonna be funny. I guess he guess he has. Has
Speaker 1: he been back, since he's been back, has to have been.
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna see someone really fun this series.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you guys know about Brewer Hickling. Brewer Hickland,
Speaker 1: thirty year old rookie, thirty year old rookie. I think
Speaker 1: he's a Huntsville boy, so he's probably a Braves fan.
Speaker 1: Through and through him and Jim Jarvis have showed up
Speaker 1: to hit eighth and ninth for this Braves team, and
Speaker 1: they've been infectious. And what they've done the bottom of
Speaker 1: the they've single handedly won multiple games as Brace team
Speaker 1: over their seven to three stretches the All Star break. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's disgusting, it is. It makes me sick to my
Speaker 1: stomach to watch these guys come out of the Brave
Speaker 1: system for no good reason and help plug the holes
Speaker 1: for them. And then he plugged while they helped figure
Speaker 1: this everything out and try to get these guys healthy again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't for the life of me figure it out.
Speaker 2: But that's the Greek alex Antopolos voodoo magic right there
Speaker 2: working its job.
Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin also is on a walk rampage right now.
Speaker 1: You've been seeing Drake baldon walk numbers. You gotta know
Speaker 1: I'm not locked into that. He should you should be.
Speaker 1: So he walked three times today on Sunday three times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: walk three times. Stay on Sunday. Hendron walk in a
Speaker 1: few games. But if you go back to Wednesday, two
Speaker 1: walks and the day before that Tuesday, three walks. So
Speaker 1: even without walking in three straight game games, in six games,
Speaker 1: he's running eight walks.
Speaker 2: His line is so funny as twenty homers and six doubles.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. How do you hit no doubles?
Speaker 2: Real power? Yeah, real power and you missed a month
Speaker 2: and a half, three hundred play appearances.
Speaker 1: Oh, this guy's so good. Like the Braves hit today
Speaker 1: in their game against the Orioles to win a series,
Speaker 1: Mauricio Dubon fifth and Dominic Smith sixth. Like that's that.
Speaker 1: If you close your eyes, you could believe that's who
Speaker 1: the Mets would have hitting fifth and six. It's painful,
Speaker 1: and I think this is going to be a coonia
Speaker 1: back on Monday too, which is perfect. Yes, it seems
Speaker 1: like that's going to happen, So we're gonna help the
Speaker 1: Braves get on there. I got on the streak. Also,
Speaker 1: Michael Harris had an amazing season. He still he will
Speaker 1: never draw a walk and he doesn't care.
Speaker 2: And also doesn't matter. I'm just I'm excited to see
Speaker 2: Zach Thornton go up against this lineup.
Speaker 1: Yes, will be a good test for Zach Thorton and
Speaker 1: good test for Christian Scott as well. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's it. We got Frankie Peppers. Oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: got frank Oh, Francis, you're tying. Here comes, here comes
Speaker 1: Francis Peppers. Can't wait to hear him.
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppers.
Speaker 1: Say, don't uh.
Speaker 3: Taking one out of three front of the Dodgers is
Speaker 3: a than expected because I expected this team to lose
Speaker 3: a trillion to eight every game. So I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: I ain't know one Soto's hurt now, and I think
Speaker 3: he's uh. I think it just might be better for
Speaker 3: his for his morale if he doesn't need to be
Speaker 3: on the field for all these games, because I know
Speaker 3: I want to quit. So my hot take is that
Speaker 3: winning games is fun and the mens considered doing it
Speaker 3: more often, And so I thought this year's went a
Speaker 3: little better than expected play wise. So, gentlemen, tell me
Speaker 3: about the time that things went better than expected for you.
Speaker 3: It's your favorite time things went better than expected. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna roll with these questions. Boys, all right, take care,
Speaker 3: Let's go, Mets, and I will talk to you soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Frank, is a really question the time was something went
Speaker 1: better than expected? I got a good one. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a good one too. Yeah. I think he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit, could be a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Who knows. I don't think so. I think mine is
Speaker 1: starting the Mets of the podcast. It's definitely got better
Speaker 1: than ten. Yere High school reunion went pretty well for me.
Speaker 1: I don't rushed it. I don't know anyone who has
Speaker 1: been ard.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I was at stage chats on them Saturday. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: look at those two bets, those two stools over there. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's remark but DC, Yeah, it's hilarious. It's just God,
Speaker 1: there are two good ones, two good ones right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good things that have happened in our lives. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's that's it. That's it.
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Speaker 1: Catch guys on the next one. Peace out that guys,
Speaker 1: let's go Mets.