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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 5: It is Wednesday, February eleventh, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one,

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Speaker 5: episode number one hundred and seven. Welcome to the latest

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Speaker 5: O led Evo. We got our normal crew back today

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Speaker 5: after Super Bowl. I know Amber and Tommy were both

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl doing their thing out there, and me and

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Speaker 5: we held it down last week. I think we had

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Speaker 5: a pretty good show. We did. We did a nominal

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Speaker 5: show we did, so it was nice to have you

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Speaker 5: guys back. Actually, I want to open the show with

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Speaker 5: giving you both an opportunity to just talk about the

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Speaker 5: sights and sounds of super Bowl. I know it. Yesterday

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Speaker 5: Amber gave me a whole pitch, like, we need to

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Speaker 5: have our whole team down there cover super Bowl. There's

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Speaker 5: so much opportunity. So I'm sure she had a great time.

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Speaker 5: But tell me just let's I guess we'll start with you, Amber.

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Speaker 5: Just talk about the experience, what it's like being at

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl. Maybe something that stood out to you while

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Speaker 5: you were there covering the Bad Bunny press conference.

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Speaker 6: That's why she was there, Make.

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Speaker 5: No mistake about it. That's why she was there.

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Speaker 7: But go ahead, make no mistake about it. The Cowboys

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Speaker 7: did not pay for me.

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Speaker 2: We did not.

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Speaker 5: She went, make no mistake about it. She wanted to

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Speaker 5: go see She went on her own.

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Speaker 2: She wanted.

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Speaker 5: You can't have money, but you just she wanted to

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Speaker 5: go and see the Bad One interview, I mean the

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Speaker 5: press conference. And she was like, you know, can I

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Speaker 5: can I can I get a day? And I'm like, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: as long as you cover something. I think she did

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Speaker 5: he wrote something that day. I think you gave us

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 8: We had the Brazil music breakdown.

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Speaker 9: I can't afford to go to a regular Bad Bunny

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Speaker 5: By the way, she went to Mexico to see Bad

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Speaker 5: Bunny and concerts. So let's be clear, she isn't Bad Bunny.

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Speaker 8: You accumulate points.

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Speaker 9: Car if it was, if it was Leanne Ryme's doing

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Speaker 9: during the halftime show, you wouldn't have went her.

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Speaker 6: You wouldn't have spent all that money to go.

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Speaker 7: There's nobody else in the world I would have gone

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Speaker 7: but Bad Bunny because of what he means and and

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Speaker 7: the his historic moment and the historic importance of it,

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Speaker 7: and anyways, she could do a whole show about that.

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Speaker 7: But back to the Super Bowl experience, I mean, everyone

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Speaker 7: and their mother and family and everything, like, everyone was there.

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Speaker 7: Everyone was there, And I was telling Derek, we absolutely

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Speaker 7: need to make a trip over there that is paid

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Speaker 7: for from the Cowboy.

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Speaker 5: We're not gonna make a habit annually on your.

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Speaker 2: Time, right.

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Speaker 7: But there's so much content to get in Radio Road

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Speaker 7: is insane. You have everyone a bunch of setups. You

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Speaker 7: a great opportunity to network and talk to not just

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Speaker 7: you know there's always a topic happening at that time,

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Speaker 7: I was there, But just everything about it. You just

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was very lucky to go to my second

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Speaker 5: Young man has already been to t Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: Who emphasides on very lucky and thankful for the opportunity, but.

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Speaker 5: You get a great job, thank you.

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Speaker 10: I completely agree with Ambar. I think it's an awesome experience.

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Speaker 10: And you know, the great the thing about the Cowboys

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Speaker 10: is they're always relevant. There's always something going on, and

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Speaker 10: now that the Pro Bowl is the same week as

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Speaker 10: and then the current players too, you know, George Pickens,

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Speaker 10: Dak Prescott, and the NFL Honors comes around later in

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Speaker 10: the week where you have two three players who were

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Speaker 10: Dak Prescott for Comeback Player of the Year, and then

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Speaker 10: was there, talk to him a little bit on the

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Speaker 10: red carpet. So San Francisco was a great city. It

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Speaker 10: takes a lot to get around that city, but it

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Speaker 10: was definitely a lot of hills, Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 4: But it was a really good time.

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Speaker 5: The r ug Oh yeah, I've heard none.

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Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, what we all doing. No, it's

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Speaker 7: just I mean you mentioned the city is just there's

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Speaker 7: just like it's sad. It's just very, very sad and

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Speaker 6: It was like everywhere everywhere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, downtown can get a little can get a little dice.

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Speaker 5: Yet I mean they just this was just and obviously

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Speaker 10: He was shot in Keon White, Yeah, was shot in

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Speaker 5: Huh, I ain't a little baby was well allegedly involved.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, just saying, just just keep your head

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Speaker 5: was a great time. Tommy. I will ask you this.

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Speaker 5: I know you talked to a lot of different players,

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Speaker 5: former players, What was what if you had one one

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Speaker 10: Well, I think my favorite conversation that I had was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of I read that, Yeah, he's all in.

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Speaker 10: I think the the the quote that that kind of

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Speaker 10: but you know, he played for the Cowboys, he's going

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Speaker 10: to be optimistic. But he's just such a smart He

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Speaker 10: most was I asked him what do you look for

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Speaker 10: that's obviously such a huge need that Dallas has. He

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get you great players.

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Speaker 10: And one guy who pointed to I think this is

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Speaker 5: You know what's interesting about that that comment. I know

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what he was thinking, and that's what he's thinking.

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Speaker 5: But then I started thinking about it, I was like,

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Speaker 5: they got some really good defensive tackles. That's what Sean

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Speaker 9: Was an All Pro with Joey Ivy in front of him,

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Speaker 9: He was that kind of guy, and I just imagine

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Speaker 9: We just can't assume that all these guys are bad.

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Speaker 9: I ain't saying you saying this. I'm just saying, like

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Speaker 9: what's my Man's play? Josh Joe. Josh Josh Joe wasn't

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Speaker 9: course we want to go and get as much talent

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Speaker 7: There are a lot of guys that we know for

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Speaker 8: It's just not good. But nobody else's performance was good.

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Speaker 5: I look at teams like Seattle, I look at teams

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Speaker 10: And the NFL now defensively is such an exotic pressure.

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Speaker 10: You know, different kinds of looks and where you're making

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Speaker 10: all kinds of different ways. That's how you win in

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Speaker 10: doing that, But that's just Quarterbacks are way too good

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Speaker 10: nowadays at the here's my first three. If it's there,

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Speaker 10: If it's not, I'm throwing to three.

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Speaker 6: Time. He's so smart.

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Speaker 9: Seattle Pool there outside of corner, line them up at

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Speaker 5: Yeah I saw it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we would never.

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Speaker 5: But that's the talent that you have in creating these moments.

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Speaker 5: going outside. I shouldn't do all this other stuff, but

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Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe, Donald, it made a lot of sense that

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Speaker 6: I thought that was a briaging.

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Speaker 5: Move by him, and kept throwing different things at it

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Speaker 5: I thought the story of that game really was my

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Speaker 10: Here, right on the broadcast, that he's the first defense

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Speaker 4: Did I hear that right? That has to be That

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Speaker 5: But if that is, well, Bill Belichick was a defensive guy.

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Speaker 4: Was he a play caller?

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Speaker 5: You mean like was actually the defensive like he.

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Speaker 4: Maybe as a young manless.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think back. I don't I don't know that,

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think he was calling the place.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he was calling Sure Google, Yeah, you

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Speaker 5: dot com. All right, let's talk about George Pickens. There

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Speaker 5: was a lot of talk last week about him in

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Speaker 5: his contract. I think George said at one point in

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Speaker 5: an interview he's hoping for the best and love to

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Speaker 5: stay here in Dallas. He's maintained that during the season

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Speaker 5: and the off season. I know, Tommy, you talked to Jerry,

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Speaker 5: and Jerry made it clear that he wants him to

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Speaker 5: be a cowboy. I think Steven has also said the same,

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Speaker 5: They want me to be a cowboy. And then the

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Speaker 5: report came out, which I don't think was a surprise anybody,

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Speaker 5: because that's just the nature of how NFL business works

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Speaker 5: and free agency. But report came out from Adam schefter

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Speaker 5: uh saying the Cowboys are expected to use the franchise

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Speaker 5: tag on him. Here's my question for you guys. The

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Speaker 5: first question, Yes, Can.

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Speaker 8: I ask a different question before that one?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 6: People hate when I do.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where you go. It will if you

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Speaker 5: take me down the road that I don't want.

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Speaker 2: To go down. Yet.

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Speaker 8: No, it's still in the same topic.

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Speaker 7: I know, but I doubt I doubt you careful asked

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Speaker 7: this question highly die, that's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Chat about to be phone his head.

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Speaker 9: They about to let you do it, but they hate

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Speaker 9: when I.

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Speaker 8: All the time to purpose and thought.

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Speaker 5: Before anybody answers. Before anybody answers, I will let you

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Speaker 5: know whether you're allowed to answer or not. So go ahead,

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Speaker 5: ask you a questions.

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Speaker 8: Crazy, Okay.

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Speaker 7: My thing is, I just wanted to get something off

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Speaker 7: my chest first before diving into that, because so we

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Speaker 7: heard the comments and the little video that happened during

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Speaker 7: the problem with Pickens and Cidie was in there and

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Speaker 7: Micah Parsons in the back and all that. Then NFL

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Speaker 7: Honors at the red carpet, Tommy got a chance to

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Speaker 7: talk to Jerry and he gave a quote and I

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Speaker 7: was looking at the article and translating it for some

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Speaker 7: most cowboys.

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Speaker 8: As I'm translating, I'm like.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Jerry said he's looking forward to start the conversation

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Speaker 7: with the doing the negotiation, and I was just like,

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Speaker 7: it stopped me for a second and got me confused

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Speaker 7: because I'm like, what do you mean to start? So

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Speaker 7: like in my head, this is already happening weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: Like I'm thinking this is these are conversations that are

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Speaker 7: already in the works. And when I heard that specific comment,

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Speaker 7: to me personally, it stood out in the sense of.

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Speaker 8: What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 8: Why?

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Speaker 7: Why has this not come like, what do you mean

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Speaker 7: starting a conversation and it hasn't happened just yet.

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Speaker 6: But they had meant to do what Darek was talking about.

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Speaker 10: I know nothing, Well, gohead, I'm not it's CD and

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Speaker 10: then he's gonna get into the franchise.

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Speaker 5: This is a fair question, and it can lead to his.

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Speaker 4: It is a fair question.

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Speaker 10: And what I would say is I'm not here to

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Speaker 10: tell you what negotiated Asian strategies right or wrong. But

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Speaker 10: typically in these situations, this is across the NFL. The

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Speaker 10: NFL Combine, which is coming up in two weeks, is

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Speaker 10: usually the starting ground to have those initial contradition talks,

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Speaker 10: especially with bigger deals, because compline is everybody in the

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Speaker 10: NFL is there. You've got three hundred and thirty something

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Speaker 10: players I think who got invited today, so their agents

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Speaker 10: are going to be all the represents, you know, executives

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Speaker 10: will be there, head coaches will be there so everybody.

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Speaker 10: It's kind of just a massive conglomerate to people that

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Speaker 10: all get together.

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Speaker 5: It's a football convention.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially it's a football.

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Speaker 8: It sounds great.

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Speaker 7: I hear what you're saying, because that's kind of where

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Speaker 7: these conversations start happening at the combine. But my perspective

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Speaker 7: is based on recent history of how things kind of

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Speaker 7: have gone downhill.

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Speaker 8: I would be if it was me. Again, I'm not

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Speaker 8: in that role.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how those things work, but if it

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Speaker 7: was me, based on what recently occurred, let's say with

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Speaker 7: even Mica, I would start as soon as possible, because

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Speaker 7: you know, you know that's happening, Like, you know that

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Speaker 7: his his deal is up. He's about to become a

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Speaker 7: free agent. Do you either do the franchise or go

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Speaker 7: into a longer deal. You know that's gonna happen. So

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Speaker 7: I'm just curious, like why not get it started a

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Speaker 7: lot earlier.

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Speaker 10: Like I said, I wasn't here to tell you what

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Speaker 10: was right or wrong, but they're going to put the

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Speaker 10: tag on him so that they have the time to

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Speaker 10: do so and be the ability to nobody else can

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Speaker 10: negotiate with him at that point and they're also I

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Speaker 10: feel like they're going to explore all options. I'm not

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Speaker 10: saying they're going to move George Pickens, but that is

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Speaker 10: something that's on the table. Right if if they say, look,

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Speaker 10: do we want to do we have so many needs

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Speaker 10: on defense that we feel like we need draft capital

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Speaker 10: from this. My counter to that to be, and we

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Speaker 10: talked about this on the Draft showt yesterday, You're probably

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Speaker 10: not going to get much in return for George Pickens.

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Speaker 5: Maybe a second round pick, and DK metcalf went for

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Speaker 5: second and seventh and then you trade flip six.

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Speaker 4: That's not a lot exactly. So is it worth it?

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Speaker 8: Because now your answer is bleeding into Derek's question.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna.

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Speaker 5: So here's the question. So here's the question. If Dallas

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Speaker 5: does use his franchise, which we think we would suspect

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Speaker 5: they will, what do you think is more likely outcome

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Speaker 5: that they're using it to protect their rights and to

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Speaker 5: keep him at from going into free agency, or two

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Speaker 5: they want to get another year without committing to a

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Speaker 5: long term deal. Or three they want they want to

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Speaker 5: look the option of possibly trading.

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Speaker 10: I think it's option one. I don't think they want

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Speaker 10: to let him go in free agency. I highly doubt

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Speaker 10: George Pickens would play on the tag. I just don't

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Speaker 10: see that's.

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Speaker 5: How does that work though, because here's the deal. It's

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Speaker 5: one thing not to show up at training camp. It's

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Speaker 5: a whole different thing when you get into the season

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Speaker 5: and the games. Are you saying he would sit out

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Speaker 5: a full year if that were the case?

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Speaker 10: No, I'm saying there's going to be a deal done

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Speaker 10: before the season, and George pickensill.

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Speaker 5: Well with the franchise tag. I think in the deadline,

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Speaker 5: I think July fifteenth to have a deal before you

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Speaker 5: can actually like that's the deadline to have a franchise

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Speaker 5: tag player get a long term deal. I would expect

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Speaker 5: there to be a deal done before July fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as things stand right now.

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Speaker 10: Obviously everything like things change so quickly with with Mike

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Speaker 10: after the combine, it seemed like because it seemed like

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Speaker 10: just kind of done deal what mbar was talking about.

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Speaker 4: You know, what are we waiting for?

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Speaker 10: I would expects, as things currently stand, that both sides

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Speaker 10: get to a deal before then they're going to.

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Speaker 4: Use the tag.

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Speaker 10: Initially that that you mentioned the report that wasn't really

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Speaker 10: it's not, but I think they get a deal done

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Speaker 10: before then. I think they recognize how different this offense

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Speaker 10: can be with two number one receivers.

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Speaker 7: I absolutely agree with the tag. I think that's kind

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Speaker 7: of the way it's going to go down. They're going

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Speaker 7: to tag him and then get that contract going and

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Speaker 7: try to work something out.

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Speaker 8: However, I'm not quite sure on.

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Speaker 7: The timing of that, because yes, it sounds good, but

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Speaker 7: we've seen it already. We've seen it that sometimes these

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Speaker 7: conversations don't happen very quickly, like these deals don't always

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Speaker 7: get done very quickly, and I don't want to go

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Speaker 7: into a situation where he's not here during the offseason workouts,

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Speaker 7: which yes, he's proven to be what he is. We

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Speaker 7: saw it last year, but that's something that's also very

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Speaker 7: very important to be a part of these workouts and

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Speaker 7: be around the team, and it just can create this whole.

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Speaker 8: Dilemma. But we saw it with obviously Micah, we've.

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Speaker 7: Seen it with CD two, and I do think it,

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Speaker 7: like because you said the July so we're that's before

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Speaker 7: starting training.

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Speaker 5: Right the way I understand it, you can't go into

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Speaker 5: training camp with there a possibility of him still getting

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Speaker 5: a deal. He will either have a deal by then,

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Speaker 5: or he won't have a deal and he'll have a

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Speaker 5: franchise tag, and then it's just a situation of is

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Speaker 5: he gonna play on that tag or is he going

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Speaker 5: to sit out? And the most players I've never seen

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Speaker 5: a player sit out for Le'Veon Bill maybe the only

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Speaker 5: guy I've ever seen do that. So again, there is.

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Speaker 7: A possibility based on like on looking at the other

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Speaker 7: hand of the other side, is that he could potentially

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Speaker 7: not even participate in training camp.

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Speaker 5: Right, No, the only way he wouldn't participate it well,

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Speaker 5: the only way he wouldn't participate in camp is if

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Speaker 5: he's basically saying I'm gonna sit out, which I don't

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Speaker 5: know how that affects the money, And that's a question

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Speaker 5: we can figure out of does he get like is

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Speaker 5: he getting fined for all that time? Is he's missing

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't sign his franchise tag, or he's still

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Speaker 5: considered like unsigned to a franchise like I don't know

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Speaker 5: how that worked.

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Speaker 10: I think I would think he would probably have to

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Speaker 10: do what Micah did last year, where he didn't participate

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Speaker 10: but he he did a hold in, or he was there,

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Speaker 10: he was present with the team, but he wasn't participating it.

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Speaker 5: But that wasn't a franchise tax situation, wasn't it.

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Speaker 10: No, I'm just saying, but that was a you know,

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Speaker 10: pending kind of contract situation where maybe it's the same thing,

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Speaker 10: maybe it's not.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea, right, I guess the difference for

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Speaker 5: me here is it's not like he can go to

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Speaker 5: camp and then get a deal done. You will know

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Speaker 5: by the time you get the training camp whether he's

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Speaker 5: getting a new deal or not. And so if he's

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Speaker 5: sitting out, then it's just his own protest of I

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Speaker 5: didn't get it.

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Speaker 7: But again, to be clear, franchise tage money is really

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Speaker 7: good money.

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Speaker 5: What's the top it's the average the top five at

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Speaker 5: the position for a year. He doesn't give you long

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Speaker 5: term security, but for the year you get paid. I

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Speaker 5: mean it's a lot of money for a year, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know there have been guys who have

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Speaker 5: made a career getting franchise tags. You know, Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 5: has made a ton of money getting franchise tags. But

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Speaker 5: it's no long term security in it, you know, right.

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Speaker 10: And I think that would be the hold up with Pickens,

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Speaker 10: because obviously you want that. Yeah, Second, contract is what

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Speaker 10: so many NFL players strive for, and I think frankly,

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Speaker 10: he's earned it. And you know, again, this can all

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Speaker 10: change in a heartbeat. I think it did with Micah

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Speaker 10: because we were at the same time last year. I'll

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Speaker 10: sitting here saying, yeah, this is it's gonna have only

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Speaker 10: a matter of time, and it made so much sense.

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Speaker 10: And you know, right now Pickens makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 10: And it's a question of, you know, how much do

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Speaker 10: we have on offense money wise, because a majority of

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Speaker 10: their cap is going to be on offense. If they

702
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Speaker 10: they've paid Dak, they've paid CD, they've paid Tyler Smith,

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Speaker 10: they've paid Jake Ferguson, They're probably going to pay Devonte Williams,

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Speaker 10: and now you're probably going to pay George Pickens too.

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Speaker 4: What does that say about their defense?

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Speaker 10: And so that's why I think you can see things

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Speaker 10: changing on a dime. But I think the other big

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Speaker 10: difference here is Mike Approach last year, if we're just

709
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Speaker 10: comparing the situations, was much more hands on in his negotiations,

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Speaker 10: whereas George Pickens told us the pro Boy, He's.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, my agent's got that. I'm ANNs off.

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Speaker 10: I'm not I'm not dealing with any of that, and

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Speaker 10: you know, I'm letting my agent take care of it.

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Speaker 4: Does that make the process easier? Maybe? Does it make

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Speaker 4: it more difficult? Also? Maybe? Yeah, so a lot of

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 10: But as things currently stand, like I said, I think

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Speaker 10: they tagg him initially and they get a deal done

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Speaker 10: before camp.

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Speaker 5: Real quick, before we go to break Botch. Tell me,

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Speaker 5: of those three options, what do you think is more.

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Speaker 9: Likely more than likely? Shout out to Ambart who she's

723
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Speaker 9: She's right again. You know what I'm saying. I just

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Speaker 9: I don't want the jones Is to come in this

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Speaker 9: thing and try to win the negotiation.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: I don't want them to be like well, deadlines make deals.

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Speaker 9: But man, let's just all be happy, man, you know

729
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Speaker 9: what I'm saying. Let's just get it man his money

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Speaker 9: and be happy and just do I think so to

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Speaker 9: answer your question, they're probably tagging him so that they

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Speaker 9: can pay him later, just so he doesn't go and

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Speaker 9: get some deal from I don't know Green Bay that

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Speaker 9: for a lot of money and boom, it's just keeping

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Speaker 9: the caboy say that's you know, just answer your question.

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Speaker 9: But I just don't want Jerry, if you're listening, you ain't.

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Speaker 9: But if you listening, man, just take care of your business.

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Speaker 9: I don't want Jerry to and Steven and them to

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Speaker 9: Nickel and Dime, your superstar guys, Nickel and Dime, the

740
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Speaker 9: middle of the roster cats, the bottom of the roster cats.

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Speaker 9: Give GP his money.

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Speaker 6: He earned it.

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Speaker 9: You you wanted, you wanted to gamble on that one year,

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Speaker 9: which was last year, to see how we And look,

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Speaker 9: he didn't get arrested, He ain't punch nobody in the stands,

746
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Speaker 9: he ain't get pulled over. You know what I'm saying,

747
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Speaker 9: He maybe like a little late for me that something

748
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Speaker 9: like that he did like the other cat. Did you

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Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, The league don't say nothing about that,

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Speaker 9: but just just give him, give him his money so

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Speaker 9: that the offense can stay on a roll, so that

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Speaker 9: you could just build on last year and not just

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Speaker 9: GP walking around with an attitude just.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna do. We're gonna take our final break.

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Speaker 8: I'm about to be clear too real quick.

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Speaker 7: When Jerry wants something, he gets it. So if he

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Speaker 7: really wants Pickens, he's gonna get that deal done.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: We're in the last segment of The Break live from

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Speaker 5: SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, talking about George Pickens.

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Speaker 5: I want to take you guys down a path, so

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Speaker 5: just follow me on this, all right, So real quick,

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Speaker 5: We're going to go around the table. I want each

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Speaker 5: of you to just quickly. You don't have to give

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Speaker 5: me an explanation. Do you think George Pickens will end

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Speaker 5: up getting the top wide receiver money in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Top five or top ten or below that? Where do

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Speaker 5: you think he will land when this deal is said

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Speaker 5: and done in the NFL?

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Speaker 8: In the NFL, whether or not with the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm saying, just when it's all said, if he's

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Speaker 5: gonna be with the Cowboys or if he's gonna be

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Speaker 5: somewhere else, is he going to be the top guy?

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Speaker 5: Is he going to be top five? Is he going

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Speaker 5: to be top ten? Or is he gonna below that?

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Speaker 9: I think like five or six makes sense. I don't

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Speaker 9: think they're going to make him higher than Justin Jefferson

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Speaker 9: or like J mar Chase or something like that. I

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Speaker 9: think the CD Lamb thing is something that Mulagea can

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Speaker 9: use against him.

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Speaker 6: Hey, look at what he did.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 9: I think he can have that conversation. But I don't

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Speaker 9: think they'll let George get higher than four. So I'm

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Speaker 9: thinking five.

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Speaker 4: Top five, two, I'd say top five.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Now I was hopeful you guys would say that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: because here's the conversation that.

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Speaker 8: We need to have got chall where I want saying.

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Speaker 5: I think this is a conversation we have to make

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Speaker 5: team Derek. Do you think it's smart roster construction when

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Speaker 5: you start thinking about the fact that there is not

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Speaker 5: a single team in the NFL that has two receivers

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Speaker 5: that are in the top ten in salary per year,

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Speaker 5: average per year. You have several teams that have two

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Speaker 5: guys in the top twenty. Nobody has two in the

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Speaker 5: top ten. And on top of that, your quarterback is

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Speaker 5: the top. As I said before, he is the top

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Speaker 5: paid quarterback by five million. It's not even close. He's

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Speaker 5: at sixty million. The next closest guys at fifty five.

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Speaker 5: On a defense that we saw last year, what you get?

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Speaker 5: Are you willing to sacrifice even more of your resources

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Speaker 5: on an offense and do something nobody in the NFL

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Speaker 5: is doing when you know you got to fix your defense.

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Speaker 9: The Super Bowl winner dictates the rules. Yep, the winner

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Speaker 9: dictates the rules. If you win with Nick Foles, not

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Speaker 9: everybody going, hey man, we could possibly win without a Superstarques.

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Speaker 9: If the Cowboys go out there and do they thing,

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Speaker 9: the next big wave is about to be you need

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Speaker 9: two receivers. The Eagles one with I don't know what

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Speaker 9: their money situation was like, but like the Eagles had

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Speaker 9: two top tieries, two.

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Speaker 2: Top twenty, top twenty. Yeah hit.

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Speaker 5: I think dk not dk AJ is in the top

880
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 5: ten and DeVante is in the top twenty. I think

881
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: he's like sixteen or seventeen.

882
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 6: Okay, that's phenomenal for them.

883
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: And by the way, here's some teams. I'll give you

884
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 5: some examples. Here's some teams that are paying that kind

885
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: of money. You've got Miami who has two in the

886
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 5: top twenty. Horrible defense. You got Cincinnati who has two

887
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 5: in the top twenty. Horrible defense. You got Detroit. Detroit,

888
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: although they don't have a horrible defense, their defenses has

889
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 5: been part of the reason why they haven't quite been

890
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: able to get to some of the places they're trying

891
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 5: to go. So you do have to give something up

892
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 5: in order to do that, and they are I think

893
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 5: our team that's very heavy when it comes to their

894
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 5: resources on the offensive side of the ball. And then

895
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 5: you've got Philadelphia who has two in the top twenty.

896
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 10: Yeah, well did cataporn don't have to Detroit as they've

897
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 10: been decimated by injuries on.

898
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 5: Absolutely their best defensive player has been out.

899
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 10: I think if you're the Cowboys, you're hoping to follow

900
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 10: two blueprints. The Bengals are the Lions. Because the Lions

901
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 10: we talked about, you know, they have defensive players, it's

902
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 10: just they can't stay on the field. At the same time, Cincinnati,

903
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 10: remember they went to Super Bowl. Granted it was when

904
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 10: I think T Higgins and Jamar were still on their

905
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 10: rookie deal.

906
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were not making the money to make now.

907
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 5: But and they had a better defense at that point.

908
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 5: Their defense was much better than it is now.

909
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: Much better, and not by a lot. I don't think

910
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 4: they were all.

911
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 5: Right now right now. Cincinnati and total defense I think.

912
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 4: Was thirty oh much better than horrible. Yeah, they're terrible.

913
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: They're like the Cowboys as far as.

914
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 10: They were not a You look at Cincinnati and say,

915
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 10: oh my gosh, no, no, But that's my point.

916
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, My point is when you're dedicating that many resources

917
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 5: to quarterback and two wide receivers, is this what you

918
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: get on defense as opposed to back when they were

919
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 5: still on those rookie deals, they could afford to have

920
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 5: a much better defense.

921
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: What you need is the inverse. If you're going to

922
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 4: pay your offensive guys.

923
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 10: You need to hit on rookies and young players or

924
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 10: find some gems in free agency on defense, because if

925
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 10: you can't do that, then it's gonna make it really tough.

926
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: Is that?

927
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 5: Is that good roster constraint? Is that a good plan?

928
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: Though?

929
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 5: Because again, what we've seen in the NFL right now

930
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 5: is playing good defense is the way to win a championship?

931
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Right?

932
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Is it the textbook plan? No? But does that mean

933
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: and it can't necessarily work? Also? No, but I do

934
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 4: think it makes it much more difficult.

935
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 9: Let me ask the table this, Sorry, Chad, let me

936
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 9: ask the table this. Let's live in Lila Land for

937
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 9: two seconds. Don't worry about Cowboys defense. How do you

938
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 9: think the Cowboys offense currently constructed? How do you think

939
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 9: the Cowboy offense fares against the Seattle defense and the

940
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 9: Patriots defense in a Super Bowl situation a hypothetical virtual

941
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 9: Super Bowl situes? Do you think that the Cowboys offense

942
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 9: currently constructed could put up points on those defenses?

943
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 5: I don't think crazy points. I don't think they're hitting thirty.

944
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: I could see him hitting thirty.

945
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: I think I think they can hit thirty.

946
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: Let me ask you. We saw some games this year

947
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 5: wasn't offense. The offense didn't didn't put up a lot

948
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 5: of points. Get some better defense, like against Minnesota what happened,

949
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: Like there have been some good defenses they play against

950
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 5: Denver when they played good defense this year this year, Now,

951
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: that doesn't mean the offense goes to nothing, but it

952
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 5: ain't what it usually is. And that's my point.

953
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 9: I think that this Cowboys I was just watching, like

954
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 9: Drake may or whatever, right, some of the things that

955
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 9: Seattle was doing to Drake May, I was like, man,

956
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 9: they'll never do at the Dack. Dak would know what

957
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 9: to do versus that, or with Sam. Sam Darnold and

958
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 9: Drake May are limited in certain places that Dak is not.

959
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 9: Christian Gunzalees locked up Jackson and jig he got hurt,

960
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 9: locked up Cooper Cup and that Seattle offense looked a

961
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 9: little weird for a second.

962
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 5: Right, the run game was what got him.

963
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 9: You would have to do that totally different with Pickens

964
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 9: and Lamb. The Cowboys just not in the Super Bowl,

965
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 9: so we just haven't seen that. I think the Cowboys

966
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 9: offense currently constructed. I think it'll be foolish to assume

967
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 9: that Pickens can go away and we can find similar production.

968
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 9: Because if you're gonna win a championship is gonna have

969
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 9: to be through that. It's gonna have to be through four.

970
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 9: I want him to be as comfortable as as as

971
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 9: he could possible.

972
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: Okay, so here's the question for sure. What were the

973
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 5: things that Minnesota let's talk about Minnesota and Denver. What

974
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 5: were the things they did defensively to slow down this offense?

975
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 6: Tell me what they do it?

976
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: That was a long time.

977
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 10: Denver was just They've got eleven dudes on the field,

978
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 10: and I think their their defensive line was getting home.

979
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 10: That was a bad game for the offensive line. Certain

980
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 10: didn't really even play that much because he.

981
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: Was getting hanged up. Yeah, so it was more just

982
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: up front.

983
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 10: It was it was upfront, and I think I really

984
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 10: think that opening drive where they get to pick from

985
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 10: Trequise bridges on, like the third play of the game,

986
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 10: drive down the field, get to the one, and they

987
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 10: just get stuffed. That told you like, Okay, they just

988
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 10: can't win in the trenches, and this is a trench league.

989
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 10: When you can't win there, it's it's gonna be struggle.

990
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 10: That's what would give me fits about Seattle. Talking about

991
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 10: Super Bowl teams. What wouldn't give me is what you said,

992
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 10: where a lot of the younger player mistakes that Drake

993
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 10: May made is not something that you would expect Dak

994
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 10: Prescott to make.

995
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: So that gives me hope that, Okay, you could see.

996
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 10: This offense if they're playing their best and they're in

997
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 10: rhythm and they're clicking, score thirty points. But at the

998
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 10: same time, and we'll get to see this next year

999
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 10: at some point because they play the Seahawks and they're

1000
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 10: going to bring a lot of the same guys back.

1001
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 10: There were way too many instances this year where you

1002
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 10: look at this team and you say, this offense is

1003
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 10: way too good to only put up nineteen eighteen points

1004
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 10: in this game or whatever the point total was.

1005
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 5: But when did that typically happen. It happened when they

1006
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 5: were playing.

1007
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they were playing much better.

1008
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: And again that's not And I know you say those

1009
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: are eleven dudes in Denver. I believe that a lot

1010
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 5: of those eleven dudes are dudes that are in a

1011
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 5: great scheme and a great fit for them. That makes

1012
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: them dud. I don't know if you put those guys,

1013
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 5: If you put those guys on the Cowboys last year.

1014
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 5: I don't think they would have played in the same way.

1015
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: Maybe Stan because Certan's just different, sure, but I don't

1016
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 5: think a lot of those guys would have I think

1017
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 5: Minnesota's another great prime example. I don't think that those

1018
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: are dudes. I think they had a good game plan

1019
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: and a good scheme, and it started with the trenches.

1020
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 5: They were not gonna let the Cowboys run on them.

1021
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 5: And because they couldn't run on them, then they could

1022
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 5: use those resources on the back end to take care

1023
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 5: of those two wide receivers. And yeah, you might give

1024
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 5: up some yards, but at the end of the day,

1025
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 5: they weren't giving up nearly the points that the Cowboys

1026
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 5: had been used to giving. So my points still comes

1027
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: back to in the NFL, you're gonna have some games. Well,

1028
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 5: I don't care how good your offense is, You're gonna

1029
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 5: have those games where you run up against a really

1030
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: good defense. Do you have the defense to match if

1031
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 5: you have all your resources on the offensive side of

1032
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: the ball, are you giving yourself a chance?

1033
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 9: And those kind of games, I think for the Cowboys

1034
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 9: their best chance to win. I think it has to

1035
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 9: be with pickings and all those great defenses have like

1036
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 9: weird offense that aren't like super Tawer Tear like that.

1037
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 9: I think your best chance is to win with pickings

1038
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 9: and to build your defense as best as possible. I've

1039
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 9: got who I would listen to, Landlord and Henny on

1040
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 9: YouTube shouts out of the down.

1041
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 6: Those are real people's names.

1042
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 9: They was like, if we're gonna play without GP, you

1043
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 9: need to promise me a top five defense. I don't

1044
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 9: think the Cowboys can build a top five defense right now.

1045
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 9: So I think my best option is just roll with

1046
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 9: GP and build the best defensive.

1047
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 5: Well, we can see Seattle built one in one year.

1048
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 6: We ain't them.

1049
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: Why not?

1050
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: Do you tell me?

1051
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 5: Why not?

1052
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: Do you do?

1053
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 5: You?

1054
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: Do you think?

1055
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 9: Do you think the Joneses can How much money did

1056
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 9: New England spend last year? I mean last year building

1057
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 9: building their defense a stupid amount of lot. I don't

1058
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 9: I don't know if the Joneses are gonna hit all

1059
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 9: the buttons on all their contract players to get all

1060
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 9: that money and then spend all that But.

1061
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 5: You're saying will they I'm saying they can.

1062
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: They have the ability to.

1063
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 5: But that's my point. That's my point. That's my point.

1064
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 5: So Seattle in the same way Seattle decided, you know what,

1065
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 5: we're tired of messing around with this. We're gonna get

1066
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 5: rid of the quarterback we got because we think we

1067
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 5: can upgrade that, which a lot of people are like, huh,

1068
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 5: really they gonna do that, And then we're gonna go

1069
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 5: out and spend on our defense, and we're gonna bring

1070
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 5: in the right players, and we think this guy McDonald

1071
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 5: has the ability press all the right buttons to make

1072
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: this defense into a top defense. And that's exactly what

1073
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 5: they did.

1074
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 9: If Jerry and Steven are sick and tired of being

1075
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 9: sick and tired, then they'll send a pick to some

1076
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 9: team for some dysgreundo player And that's a that's a

1077
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 9: hell of a start. That's how I'm saying, like top

1078
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 9: five defense, that's where all to start. For me to

1079
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 9: go and get one of them cast that's disgrunled on

1080
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 9: some part of the country I can't say, and then

1081
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 9: build the rest of your team there. And if that

1082
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 9: has to be without GP, you have to promise me

1083
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 9: one of them, one of them kind of guys. Yeah,

1084
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 9: and look on that time, because it's flowing around social media,

1085
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 9: I'm not trading GP one for one for that Disgronald

1086
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 9: guy for some Discgronald pass rush.

1087
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna do that, So I'm just.

1088
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: I guess the point. The point that I'm making is

1089
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked if the Cowboys took the route

1090
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 5: of let's franchise tag him. We can have him for

1091
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: a year, let's not commit to the long term of

1092
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 5: we're gonna now have two guys that are top five,

1093
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: and you guys have.

1094
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 8: All said that's what's gonna happen.

1095
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: That's what I'm starting to think. But as you guys

1096
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: all said, if he's gonna get top five money, they're

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00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 5: gonna commit to pay the top quarterback in the NFL

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00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 5: and two of the top five wide receivers in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: I think you're gonna be totally hamstring long term, and

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Speaker 5: I think they might right now. I think I would

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00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 5: guess that the better option would be if you have

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00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 5: an opportunity to franchise him for a year and then

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00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 5: still be able to use those resources to try to

1104
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 5: start building up that defense. You gotta hit it out

1105
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: of the park in the draft this year. You absolutely

1106
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: have to, because you don't have as many picks. You

1107
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 5: got to kill the draft this year. Sure that gives

1108
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: you your best chance for the long term. It also

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00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 5: gives you another year to see is Ryan f llinoil

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00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: real number two?

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00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 3: Right?

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00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: We don't know that he showed us signs this year

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00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 5: that he can play. Can he be a true number two?

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00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 5: I think they probably want more information on that. So

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00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 5: I just if I'm looking at this holistically, and I'm

1117
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: looking at all the trends of the NFL, I'm looking

1118
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: at the finances. If it were my decision, I might

1119
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: go to route of saying I would prefer to maybe

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00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 5: put him on a franchise tag. You have one more

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00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 5: year with him, and then make a decision on what

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00:48:59,480 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: I want to do.

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Speaker 9: I don't think we would mind GP playing on the tag,

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00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 9: but I don't think the agent will let that happen.

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00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 10: That was gonna be my point is, I don't know

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00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 10: if George Pickens is going to be willing to.

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00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: Play on the tag. Could he be maybe? Who knows.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you don't.

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00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 8: Have much of an option when you're tagged, you.

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00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 5: Sit out, which but that's the yeah. But we have

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00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 5: seen one player do that. Now most players are not

1132
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 5: willing to say I'm going to take a year in

1133
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 5: my prime to not play football. Yeah, that's that's hard.

1134
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 5: There's a lot very hard.

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00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 8: You're sitting now for the play.

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00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 10: For sure, I'm not I'm not. I'm not disagreeing with

1137
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 10: It's a very hard saying that.

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00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 4: That is.

1139
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 5: That's an option, an option, an option?

1140
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: What had happened? Who knows?

1141
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 10: I think, Look, if you're going to do that and

1142
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 10: you're going to pay George Pickens, your best approach has

1143
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 10: to be. If we're talking super Bowl teams, you have

1144
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 10: to build like the Patriots did. It's different because they've

1145
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 10: got a rookie quarterback who's not being paid sixty million

1146
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 10: dollars a year. But when they when you talk about

1147
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 10: changing everything this offseason, you need to one spending free

1148
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 10: agency because they go and they get you know, Milton

1149
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 10: Williams and those kinds of guys. And then if you

1150
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 10: look at their draft class man, like all of their

1151
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 10: defensive guys that they got made an impact like Craig Woodson,

1152
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 10: especially what a game he had in the Super Bowl.

1153
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 5: And they got to kill the draft all year.

1154
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 10: You've got to make sure you hit your picks, not

1155
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 10: just the first two picks. But if you get a

1156
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 10: Day two pick through whatever means that may be, or

1157
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 10: in your Day three picks, you've got to find those

1158
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 10: diamonds in the roughlee eight that can help you immediately

1159
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 10: and help you quickly. So you know, we all we

1160
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 10: talked about then they've talked about we'll take the best

1161
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 10: player available at twelve and twenty. I honestly don't think

1162
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 10: they can afford that. I think they need to go

1163
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 10: defense on both of those picks.

1164
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Speaker 4: And I don't want it.

1165
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 5: And that's a whole different conversation. I just I get

1166
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 5: nervous when you start saying give me the give give me,

1167
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 5: I gotta get a defensive player, because that's how you

1168
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 5: not get a CD lamp, That's how you end up

1169
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 5: in the situation where you get a tackle. Charlton, I

1170
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: think you make mistakes when you say I just got

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00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 5: to get something at this position on this side of

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00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 5: the ball, versus saying I'm going to take the player

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00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 5: that's best available to me that isn't a that can

1174
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 5: play immediately. I think that's a caveat that you can say,

1175
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 5: like you would say, I'm not going to take a

1176
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 5: quarterback because he ain't playing that. I need guys that

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00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 5: can play now. But when you start saying I got

1178
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 5: to get a defensive player, I got get an air dresher,

1179
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 5: I think you make mistakes like that.

1180
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: If you have guys who are closely grated.

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00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 10: You got your offensive player who's here, and you've got

1182
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 10: three defensive players that you don't have as high but

1183
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 10: still need a better be That's what I'm saying.

1184
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 5: They better be touching tags. Let's put it like that

1185
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 5: to use y'all's draft, and now y'all draft the draft.

1186
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 5: They better be touching tags. I mean, they got to

1187
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 5: be that close to where I'm like, these are comparable players.

1188
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 5: I'm not taking risk on a guy just because I

1189
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 5: need a position.

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Speaker 10: If it's a huge jump, I'm with you. I don't

1191
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 10: think you can afford to do that. But if it's

1192
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 10: close enough to where you're weighing the options, you need defense.

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Speaker 7: Okay, this was just a quick Google search, so I

1194
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Speaker 7: don't know how accurate it was or not.

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00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 5: You don't trust Google.

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Speaker 7: That's why I said, I don't know how and we're

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00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 7: about we're way past the end of the but right,

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00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 7: but it says they would forfeit their entire salary for

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Speaker 7: that season. And according to this, it says that the

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Speaker 7: players are subject to a fifty thousand dollars fine each

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00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 7: day they.

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Speaker 5: Hold out wait during camp or during the season.

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Speaker 8: This says.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't specify, but it says it's them holding out

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00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 7: under the franchise.

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00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 5: Tie per game of per day that you say per day.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I was taking so.

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Speaker 5: Maybe, actually, yeah, you got money.

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00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 10: That's what I was talking about with Micah during his

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00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 10: training camp is I was wondering if that was the

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00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 10: same situation, because remember, just Pickens on a rookie deal.

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00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 5: So we got to get some info in that and

1213
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 5: figure out that's how because if that's how, it worries

1214
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 5: that that's why players don't sit out is because there's

1215
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 5: a lot of money. Money, that's a ton of money. Still,

1216
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 5: all right, I appreciate you guys jump. So we'll be

1217
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Speaker 5: back next week. We'll get back into our our player review,

1218
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Speaker 5: go through some more positions. Weren't talk about the running

1219
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: back position next week because I think there's some interest

1220
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Speaker 5: conversations there, particularly Javonte Williams and some of the guys

1221
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Speaker 5: that are coming up in free agency. I think there's

1222
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Speaker 5: some interesting conversations to be had. We'll do that next week.

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