1 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: All right one two wan two to one too one two, three, four, five, six, seven, 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: eight nine ten. Hello everybody, and welcome to the Renee 3 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Stubs Tennis podcast. I am in my apartment with my 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: good friend Caitlin Thompson. 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: I just had a lot of candy. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: You did have a lot of candy. You stole all 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: of my candy that I was given as a gift 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: by my friend Erica. And it's from Bonbon in New York. 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: And if anyone has ever been to New York and 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: likes candy, it's a Swedish candy store and it has 11 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: very good candy, or as we call them in Australia, lollies. 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 2: One of the dumber things that I've ever heard. Okay, 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: out of said. 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, but okay, no, no, no, no, you've already started with this. 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: This is how we What is the difference between lollies 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: and candy? What's the difference between those? What is dumb 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: about one of them? 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw both you guys and England off a 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: cliff here because. 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: The Kamath you are born in a Commonwealth country. You're 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: gott to calm the farm. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: I won't. 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: I can't. 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: First of all, lollipops, which I assume are what Lolli's 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: are a diminutive for I just don't. I don't like 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: the diminutives. I just don't. Every time an Australian person 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 2: tries to give me a nickname, my cringe. For a while. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: In my office there was a guy who was Australian 29 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: called me Tomom. 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: I was glad, I don't tell you Tomo. I call 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: you worse to my face. 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: So, first of all, diminatives, just generally, I don't love them, 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: second of all, and the British to this too. This 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: is why I'm gonna throw the Brits also under the bus. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Here the idea of calling a category of things, which 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: is the meta category is candy one thing. Lolly's not 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: even a good version of the thing. 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: No, but we call chocolate chocolate, we don't call it candy. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: What do you call chocolate candy? 40 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: Chocolate? No, chocolate doesn't go into the category of candy 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: because it's different. Candy is a metatopic. Lolly's referred to 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: specifically lollipops. Similarly, I was talking to someone English, this 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: is before I understood a lot of their words, and 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: she was saying, oh at my wedding, We're gonna have 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: like maybe six or seven puddings. And I was like, 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 2: holy shit, wow, shocked, you're even gonna have one pudding? 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: Who even likes pudding? Because in America the definition of pudding. 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Is so narrow, So what's a pudding in England? 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: In England, it's all dessert. I didn't know that it's 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: stupid because it's stupid, but that's dumb, right, And I 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: was thinking, okay, well, I can only name like three 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: putt like tap yoca pudding. I guess rice pudding maybe 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: like a just a no, there's. 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: A trifle pudding. This trifle pudding or. 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: Trifle is a specific dessert made majority of pudding. 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Everyone, and welcome to the Reneice ub Senis Podcast. We 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: gotta talk about tennis is not candy? Oh my god? 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: Why do we get on these tangents? You're so weird? 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: Okay, well you shouldn't have given any candy or lally. 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Well that's the problem, you know that. Do I need 61 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: to bring give you a downer? Now? You did bring 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: me over brownies and I was super excited. You're like, 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: I brought you some brownies. I go, really, what's in them? 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: You're chocolate. I was like, unfortunately, Pumpkin, that's all right, Hi, everybody, Well, 65 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: what a week it's been of a women's tennis. 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: What a week it's but of women's tennis. 67 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: Marvels. We women's tennis were great, great, great. 68 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: Great tennis. 69 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Favorite match. 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: Coco Sabolenka. Actually, honestly the final Chin when Coco was 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: the final, third set tiebreak, just wow, that was great, 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: so great, I thought Chin when and Barbara Kujikova's match 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: was quite good, right, Just I'm struggling to think of 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: matches that were not quality. Yeah, the only match that 75 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: was not quality was Daria Kasakiina filling in the last 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: second for Jesse Pegoula after she totally understandably pulled out. 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: She looked like she had run out of a Yeah, 78 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: probably the ball had been struck. She was injured fair enough, 79 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: So Darikina comes into the eleventh hour, I think puts 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: one game on the board was not competitive. But other 81 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: than that, like literally every single match was predative, interesting 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: and it was really what you wi hope that tournament is, 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: which is eight best bringing their best. And yes, you 84 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: could argue maybe the eight best didn't make it Kadikova. 85 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: Obviously winning Wimbledon but not being ranked in the top 86 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: ten was a little bit controversial, But I think that 87 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: that's really who's for me? 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Who was the next in? Was it m Emma? 89 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: I think who was Emma? 90 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: And there was sorry Emma doesn't need the money. 91 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: I also think she played. 92 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: So many times just getting Emma, you know, I love you. 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: But anyway, lostory short. I feel like everybody who was 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: there played great tennis. Berber Kdikova made it to the 95 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: Semis and put up a very competitive match, but that final. 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: First of all, I want to say this about the final. 97 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Do you want to the final? 98 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Talk about you want to go to the final, you 99 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: want to go through the tournament a little bit. 100 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't really want to go through the tournament a 101 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: little bit, okay, especially because we've talked. We talked a 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: little bit about it last week. 103 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Don't forget we did, but not really we were halfway 104 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: through the tournament. Not even. 105 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: The thing that I want to say is I love 106 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: that the finalists were purple. Coco's new balance fit was 107 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: the best I've seen her. 108 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Oh but her stuff is so cursed. 109 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: I was often good, but a lot of times they 110 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: put her in extremely tight and very revealing clothes, and 111 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: this one I felt it was quite I mean, she's 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: got an insane physique, so you know, it's not like 113 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: anything can be unflattering on her. But this one for 114 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: me just was ten out of ten. And then I 115 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: really loved chin Win's sort of sass on the podium. 116 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw, but she was given 117 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: a lot of I'm on Vogue China's cover right now, 118 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: and it didn't look like she was that pleased to 119 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: have lost. 120 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: She like pissed, which I like, would you see the handshake? Yeah, Frosty, Oh, 121 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, she definitely is letting people know she does 122 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: not care. 123 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not. 124 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: She does not care about being friends with anyone. She 125 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: said in press conferences. I'm not here to bank friends. 126 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: I am. 127 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: They are my essential enemies. They are players that I 128 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: don't want to be friends with. I have to play 129 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: them all the time, and I understand that and I 130 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: respect it. I respect it, but at the same time, well, 131 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: it's it's becomes pretty tough out there. It's hard out 132 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: here for a pimp. 133 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: I can imagine it gets a little lonely. 134 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just hard. I mean to sitting in 135 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: a you know, locker room, and I know I played 136 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: out there twenty two years and it's hard when you're 137 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: out there on your own. I mean, I know she 138 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: has her friends and you know, people traveling with her 139 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, but it's like, let's 140 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: get lonely, you know, in the locker room. You can't 141 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: have a bit of a joke. 142 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: I'm here with you know, I'm a chin win right 143 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: a day. I love her game, but also I don't 144 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: mind a bit of a villain. 145 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: I know we need it, we need the We're good 146 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: with it. 147 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: The jorney's good storylines. The women's Tour has had great parody, yeah, 148 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: for quite a while now, and this final, the entire 149 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: week which we yes should talk through. For me, the variety, 150 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: the personalities, the various outfits, everything just really clicked for me. 151 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: I really liked it. 152 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: I want to reference a couple of things that were 153 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: said on Twitter as well, like somebody wrote about, oh, 154 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: you know, Coco tank the match against Kradjikova, so she 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: didn't have to, you know, so Eager couldn't get a back. 156 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: He can get through to the semi finals. And I'm like, No, 157 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that's not how it works. First of all, so Coco says, Okay, 158 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to lose to grid Jikova and then have 159 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: a possibility of play Krejikova again, or I've already beaten 160 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Eager and now if I lose to Grid Jcobar, then 161 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: I get to play Saba Lenka in the semis. 162 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 163 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: No way, that's not what she's thinking. She's thinking, I 164 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: want to win again. I want to get more money 165 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: in my pocket because if she had gone undefeated, she 166 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: would have made even more money. Oh really, yes, if 167 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: you go undefeated, you get an extra bonus on top 168 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: of that. Wow, so winning actually does count to your 169 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: bank account, even though look, we know Coco is going 170 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: to be set for the rest of your life forever. 171 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: But but so, and arguably you would say playing against 172 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: chin when at the time was easier than playing against 173 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Saba Lenka, why would you want to play Saballenka. You know, Okay, 174 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: she lost to Rebekkna, but so what we know how 175 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: good Rebuccina can be. And finally Rebukkina got a couple 176 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: of matches under a belt and was playing better, and 177 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: so I think she set the time we'll get into 178 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: that about next year. But I think for anyone to 179 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: suggest that Coco went in there with the dubious sense 180 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: of I'm going to kick out Eager is just nonsense. 181 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: There is no way you want to lose a match 182 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: going into the semifinals, and you don't want to lose 183 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: a match going into semifinals, arguably playing against the best 184 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: player on hard court all year in sable Anca. So 185 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: stop with the nonsense. That is not what happened. She 186 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: got beat. 187 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: What was that? And she was pissed about losing, and 188 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: she used it, obviously to motivate her to two fantastic 189 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: showings in the semis and finals. Yeah, just the idea 190 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: that somebody could go into a different gear and be like, oh, 191 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: I've been in top gear this whole time, and now 192 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to shift downward for this one match. So 193 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: the math works out that I get rid of Eager, 194 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: they're going to shift back up. Yes, So first of all, 195 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: it's really hard, yeah, And second of all, why would 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: you want to shift out of anything other than playing 197 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: your best tennis? That's right, you're in that mentality, you're 198 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: winning your role and you're feeling good. You don't mess 199 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: with the success, and so you don't want. 200 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: To lose to anyone because you have to play them 201 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: again at some point, and you want to be like, oh, yeah, 202 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: I lost to her last time I played her, and 203 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: your your opponent's like, oh I beat her in straight sets. 204 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: So you know, Kujica is going out against Coco next 205 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: time she plays. It's like last time a player, I 206 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: beat her in straight sets. So stop with the just 207 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: people on Twitter, people on that stupid bird site. 208 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: Quit Twitter. 209 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: You know, I wish I could. 210 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: You can you can do anything? 211 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but we promote our stuff on there. It's like 212 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: I've got like fifty thousand followers on there. Guys, would 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: you go to threads? Would you go to threads? Write 214 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: me on X and let me know if you'd go 215 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: to threads. 216 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got nothing to say. 217 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: Or what can we make another one? I don't know 218 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: a couple options. People say, you are right, I wish 219 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I could twitter? Did I wish I could twit? 220 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: The tweeter setting as out any political implications. It's just 221 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: it's it's boring. 222 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: It's so toxic. 223 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: It's so toxic, how predictable and how dorm it is. 224 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: It's like I don't need to spend any time with this. 225 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: I don't. I'm I'm this is this is the year 226 00:09:59,480 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: of protect. 227 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you were hoping that there was going 228 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to be the other way around. We weren't going to 229 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: get into that. 230 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: But no, I'm actually saying a positive thing. This is 231 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: for me the last couple of years. It's like, no, 232 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: I just got to protect my piece. Nah, like I'm not, 233 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: you know what, you want to do some dumb stuff, Okay, 234 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: let them Okay, so listen, let's get back to this. 235 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, I am very curious the people who follow 236 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: us and interact with us on Twitter, particularly you, because 237 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: you're getting questionable. Like let's see if we could get 238 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: a little thing going on threads. 239 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah or something. Anyway, But listen, youngest winned to win 240 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: the WTA finals since Serena, she said it was an honor. 241 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: She put a photo off of her and and just said, 242 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: what an honor. It's just it's interesting to me that 243 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Coco really still just gives so much credit to Venus 244 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: and Serena, because, you know, without them, it's it's arguably 245 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: that she would not have played tennis, you know, And so. 246 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: That famous photo of her as a kid behind Venus 247 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: is amazing Venus and she's got this little baby face 248 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: in your This is amazing. This is what our thrash 249 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: Kidesday is for. It's for kids to see in big. 250 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: And if they see they can be it. 251 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: For sure. For me, the Cocoa year that she had 252 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 2: late in the season, what a fantastic ending. Truly, I'm 253 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: really really pleased for her. I'm very excited, and I 254 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: think this bodes well going into obviously twenty twenty five. 255 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: It feels like she, as you said before the tournament, 256 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: if she serves fewer fewer than six double false per match, 257 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: she's gonna win the tournament. And I was like, Coo, 258 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: is not gonna win this tournament? 259 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, I really truly believed her. Hats after you, 260 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: thank you, Are you gonna clap. 261 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's the sound of one hand clapping. 262 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: I really felt that she was hitting the ball as 263 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: well as I've ever seen or hit the ball from 264 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: the back of the court. It's the reason why said 265 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: if she could keep the double faults to a minimum, 266 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: she would win the win the tournament. And I said 267 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: she would beat everybody. She didn't beat everybody. She lost 268 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: to Gridjikova. But also you have to remember it's really hard. 269 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: And I know this because when I was coaching carolinea 270 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: police go over, the same thing happened, where she dominated 271 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: her first two matches, beat Venus in straight sets, beat 272 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: fit Of in straight sets, and then had to play 273 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Ostapenko in the third match. But she'd already made the finals. 274 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: She'd already made it through the semifinals, and so it's 275 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: really hard to know that you've already made it into 276 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: the semifinals and sort of go out there with the 277 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: same dogged determination to win a third match in a 278 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: row to even though you've already made it through the 279 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: semi robber. So I'm not saying that Coco, and I've 280 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: already said that there's no chance she tanked that match, 281 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: and there's no chance she did it on purpose. But 282 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: there is a difference in knowing that you you will 283 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: die to win a match to get to the semifinals, 284 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: right as opposed to I'm already in you know, how 285 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: much do I want to dig in mentally? Maybe that 286 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: was on the Maybe maybe she wasn't digging in mentally 287 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: as much as she had been previously. 288 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: Maybe Krejukova and her back was against the wall. It 289 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: was a must win. Well that's the opposite, right, a 290 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 2: total opposite scenario where she's like, okay, win and you're 291 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: in and she's went in straight and I'm in and 292 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: she just really got it done. And also I think 293 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: Krydukova likes that match up to she struck me as 294 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: because of her of his hate the groundstrokes for her. 295 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: Of Coco's balls seem to be sitting up in a 296 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: really nice stroke zone on that home it. 297 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: Can I mean, I think Jigva struggles a little bit 298 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: with the ball high above her shoulders, and that's a 299 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: thing that Coco does better than anyone. And apparently I 300 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: heard just did another podcast earlier and apparently Wim facet 301 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: said something after she won her last match but didn't 302 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: make it through, is that he wants her to play 303 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: further back in the court on a hard court. 304 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: Wim Faset, who's now coaching Ego, wants to play further 305 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: back in the court, to play further back because of 306 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: the ball. 307 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Hey yeah, no, because of the speed of the court. 308 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: And it'll give her time now that I mean in 309 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: a way makes sense, right, gives them more time to 310 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: see the ball. She can finish on the forehand a 311 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: little bit more. But the problem with that is the 312 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: reason why Coco gets away with it. They're playing deep 313 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: in the court with her forehand grip. The way Eagle's 314 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: forehand grip is is that Coco's not afraid to throw 315 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: up a high ball. Coco will throw that ball up 316 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: in the air because she has the spin and she 317 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: doesn't have the racket at speed. Very different the way 318 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: she hits her forehand compared to Eager. Eager swings through 319 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: her forehand like a windshield wipe up right if you 320 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: can imagine a windship real fast, whereas Coca comes up 321 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: and brushes up behind it right so for her when 322 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: she's rushed on her forehand, rather than try and swing 323 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: through it, which when she does, she hits her forehand well. 324 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: When she gets in a bit of trouble or if 325 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: she's deep in the court with her speed, just like Eagers, 326 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: she is not. She's not going to try and hit 327 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: it flat back right. Eager wants to crush it. Still. 328 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: Coco throws it up in the air and throws the 329 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: ball way up in the air, which is really hard 330 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to attack unless you come into the net, which no 331 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: girl's coming in on that. I mean, I would say 332 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: as a ranker at her very best would come in 333 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: and swing that out of their swing. But that is 334 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: really hard to do, right, so they let it bounce 335 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: and then boom. Of course, of her speed, Coca gets 336 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: back into the point right eagers, I don't think has 337 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: that shot now. If he's going to make her play 338 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: back that deep, he better develop her heating that high 339 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: ball up to get back into the point. So we'll 340 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: see if if he wants her to play on a 341 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: fast court throwing in high balls and using your speed 342 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: like Coco does, and then turning the offense into a 343 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: defense into offense, we'll see. We'll see if that works. 344 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting. 345 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: I think that's a really insightful and interesting way for 346 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: those of us who are not experts at the game, 347 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: who are watching more casually at home, to sort of 348 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: understand how we too can adjust tactics, like yes, okay, look, 349 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: she's added a new shot. Essentially, she's created essentially a defensive. 350 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: It's a defensive weapon and has talked about it heck 351 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: a bit. She said she plays against Coco and the 352 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: thing that she found really hard is that Coco hits 353 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: the shit out of her backhand flat, hard, unbelievably accurate, 354 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: and her forehand she hits with spin and high. And 355 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: so you're getting one ball that's way above your shoulders 356 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: and then the other one that's down near your kneecaps right, 357 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: and one's coming one hundred miles an hour, the other 358 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: one's coming at eighty. It's very different. It's like facing 359 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: a picture. So you're constantly having to play up, play back, 360 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: come in, not come in, Oh god. And then not 361 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: only that, Coco doesn't it's not missing. Her forehand was 362 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: so good during this tournament. And of course what I 363 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: said was the most important thing was for serving. She 364 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: hit on average like two or three or four, maybe 365 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: five double faults in the match. On average, she hit 366 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: eleven against Eager. Two in the first set, nine in 367 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: the second set. And that's where Eager had a chance. 368 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Because Eager got up a break, she got broken, Eager 369 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: got up another break because of the double faults, got 370 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: broken again. So that was on Eager to not hold serve, 371 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: and she did not serve well enough, and she did 372 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: not take advantage of the crack that Coco gave her 373 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: from that second set by hitting nine double faults, which 374 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: is an enormous amount in one set, So she was 375 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: a virtually eager was virtually given two games on serve 376 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: right on break to break and then just handed it back. 377 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: So I don't know whether that's eager not playing well 378 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: enough in those moments, that's not eager serving well enough, 379 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: not being you know, a great whatever it was. She 380 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: didn't capitalize on Cocoa's cracking on serve and that was 381 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: a difference. And then and then once she had an opportunity. 382 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: I'll give cook her a lot of credit when it 383 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: got back to even like four all, and second that 384 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: she said great and that's what won in the match. 385 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: So her digging date and not panicking when she started 386 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: double folding, and also EGA just giving her that room 387 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: to get back into the match. 388 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: And I will say that match did to me feature 389 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: still some of the EGA that comes out when she 390 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: gets tight, which is panicking. She started panicking, then you 391 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: saw some shanks and you saw some gifts in the 392 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: middle of the net, just kind of like, oh, that's 393 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: something I want to not see more. Also because it's triggering. 394 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: It's like too relatable for my own junior when you're 395 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: panicking and you're like, oh God, like I just I'm 396 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 2: gonna rush now, and I'm gonna well also, you know, 397 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: condense my strokes, and like everything that you shouldn't do 398 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: starts becoming the thing that your body is doing, whether 399 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: you want it to do or not, and it's hard 400 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: to watch. So for me, I hope, just I hope 401 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: that that's something that wimp said. I mean, granted you 402 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: just started working together, but I do hope that that's 403 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: the panic button, is something that goes back behind that 404 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: safe you know, clear plast stick bucks that protects it 405 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: so nobody goes into panic mode because you just stay calm. 406 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one of the things also to recognize, 407 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: and this is when Coco won through you know, the 408 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: hard court season and last year and won the US Open. 409 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: She wasn't missing her forehand, right, Was she doing a 410 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: ton of damage on it? No, it's not like Coco 411 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: can step up to the baseline go whack with a 412 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: fourhand on the line like a sabal Anca or Rebekina 413 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: or you know, even Kadjikova and even Paulini and Jessica Bagula, Jesse. 414 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: It was shape on her forehand. So I think The 415 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: thing is, she's like a modern day and I said 416 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: this today on another pod. She's like a modern day 417 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: a rancher Sanchez for Curry. If you remember the way 418 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: a rancher played, and this is for us older folks, 419 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: a rancher when she was at her best and she 420 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: was playing against someone like Steffi, who was her biggest emesis, 421 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: Steffie would always be a rancher. But there were times 422 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: that she had wins against Steffie. And that's when Steffie 423 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: we got a little bit tight because a rancher wasn't 424 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: missing her forehand, because a rancher had a much weaker foehand. 425 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: And arguably Coco serve is much better, obviously, and getting 426 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: three points on a serve, but Coco's backhand is so good. 427 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: A ranch's backhand so good, right, A rancher had a 428 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: beautiful slice backhand. She could play defense like nobody's business. 429 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: A rancher come into the net, willing to come forward, 430 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: all the things. It's kind of like a modern day 431 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: a rancher when the forehand was not making errors. Where 432 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: do you get the point? Where do you win the point? Right? 433 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: And that's how Coco is when she's not missing her 434 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: forehand or not putting it. In short, she wasn't doing 435 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: in this tournament, and she wasn't giving you free double 436 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: faults and giving you twenty points a match. Where's the weakness. Yeah, 437 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not there. So I think this bodes so well 438 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: for her in the future. But she must continue to 439 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: work on that second serve. If there's one area, if 440 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: she gets that under control emotionally and you know, with 441 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: her technique, and that'll be the that would be the 442 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: off season work that I would do with her. My god, 443 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: like six months ago, I would not have said this. 444 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: She's gonna win a lot of Grand Slams if she 445 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: can continue with that style of not missing the forehand, 446 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: putting it into difficult situations, using the high ball, and 447 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: not missing her second serve. 448 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Well, this has to be on hardcourt. Just such a 449 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: triumph too. 450 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: She just needs to find on hard court just playing. 451 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: The people that she's plead in this tournament and showing 452 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: the level that she showed to me. This is a 453 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: this I feel much more bullish on her than I 454 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: did after she won the Open. 455 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh me too, I agree, and I think for me, well, 456 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: actually I feel the same about her now. As I 457 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: did after the US Open, because she wasn't doing the 458 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: double faults. Yeah, and she wasn't missing the forehand through 459 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: that period in the hard court season, and then all 460 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: of a sudden pressure got on her and she started 461 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: to sort of But this is where technique is very important, 462 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: particular on the serve when she gets nervous. Playing outdoors 463 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: is a lot different playing indoors. Okay, if she's double 464 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: folding indoors, that is a major, major, major problem. 465 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay. 466 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: Now the variable come in the wind? Is the wind 467 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: behind your back? Is it pushing the ball forward too 468 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: much on the toss? Is it the sun? Can she 469 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: vary this very that, Like, you've got to be able 470 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: to adjust outdoors, that will be a question mark. Still, 471 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: if she gets out under control, good luck. And I'm 472 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: super pumped because we've got chin Win, we got sabal Anka, 473 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: We've got Eager, We've got her those four Yeah. 474 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: And then a really fun sort of secondary cast of characters, Paolini, 475 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: You've got Danielle Collins who come, don't forget one, Indian World, 476 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: Miami and Charleston. And before she shut her season down 477 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: with injury, decided, Oops, I'm not retiring again, you're not 478 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: rid of me yet. So for me, the the just 479 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: personalities in the variety of style on the on the 480 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: WTA Tour continues to be really great, which actually I 481 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: feel really excited about because I think not to fast 482 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: forward to the men because I do want I have 483 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: a chin one question for you. But I feel like 484 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 2: now I'm excited about the men, like this is for me, 485 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: they're coming into another kind of golden age where and 486 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: maybe it's a little bit of the Big Three being 487 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 2: this is being the first atp Tour finals without any 488 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: one of them, I know, which is crazy, but we'll 489 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: get to that in a second. So for me, Chin 490 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 2: win up five to three in the third. She had 491 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: a great tournament. 492 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you followed me on ex Twitter, you 493 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: would have seen what I predicted, which was what So 494 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: first of all, when you when you're up already a 495 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: set and to love, which Chin win was right, and 496 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: a break two love serving, well, two loves she had 497 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: a break, but two loves serving and it was a 498 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: game that Coco won and broke surf. And when she 499 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: broke that game and went to two to one, I 500 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is going to be a completely 501 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: different match. Now because Coco said come on out loud 502 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: when she on that game, and you know how I 503 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: feel about this, and this is what I said about 504 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: Rafa when he won that epic five set match against Medvedev. 505 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, look at this poor little guy. 506 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: He's down two sets of love and he just said 507 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: Varmus down love forty. That's just my story because he 508 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: was letting everyone know, hey, I'm not going anywhere. I'm 509 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And guess who else was like, oh, 510 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere is his opponent? That's right, So 511 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: chin Win's down the other end. This is outside of 512 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: winning the Gold, the biggest match of her career, and 513 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Coco's like, come on, and she's 514 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: egging the crowd on, like let's go get in right, 515 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: and you, as a player, when you're out there, you go, 516 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: oh shit, I just let go of a massive opportunity 517 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: to go up a set and three love now, which 518 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: is still one. I don't know long way to go, 519 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: but to go all of a sudden, two won back 520 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: on serve and things changed dramatically. Right then, Coco struggled 521 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: serving out the set, loses a game at five to 522 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: three chin when you think, okay, maybe can goes into 523 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: the third set. So there's already vulnerability there from chin 524 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: Win for me to go. She couldn't close out the 525 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: match then, and when you can't close out the match 526 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: in two sets, what's to say it's not going to 527 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: be just as difficult in the third set, right, So 528 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: when I got to five to three, I said, on 529 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: I put it out on Twitter and I said, it's 530 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: a long way to go here, kids, believe me. I 531 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: don't know exactly the verbate like verbatim, but I was like, 532 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: long way to go here. And then it got to 533 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: five to four and I said, this is going to 534 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: a third set type break, yep, and it did. And 535 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: then when I got to a third set type break, 536 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: I said, Coco will now win. And the reason why 537 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: Coco had two match points at six' five on Chin 538 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: win surf and Chin win played two incredible, points great 539 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: serve out, wide huge winner, again another great, serf another 540 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: huge winner in that. Game, now as an opponent as Your, 541 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: coco you're, like first of, All i'm really lucky to 542 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: still be in this. Match potentially should have been out 543 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: in two, Sets potentially should have lost six to, three 544 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: in a third and then you get two match points 545 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are, like oh my, god now 546 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: she's going to feel like she should have won the. 547 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: Match but the difference was is that she lost those 548 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: two match points playing. Well she was. Outplayed, yeah so 549 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: Went this is where you as a, player as a tennis, 550 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: player go heyte two. Good now IF i hit a 551 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: bottom IF i hit a ball in the bottom of 552 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: the net and THEN i choked the next, Point Now i'm, 553 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: like oh my. God NOW i as a commentator and 554 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: a person watching and would, go oh, yeah kind of 555 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: like what happened To tin win at five? Three she 556 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: stopped hitting the big, ball she stopped going for, it 557 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: she started playing complacently and very, passively and all of a, 558 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: sudden you look down the other, end and if you're 559 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: an observant, player Which COCO i believe, is, goes, oh she's. 560 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: Tight and as a, champion which she, is as A 561 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: Grand slam champion and a player that's won a lot of, 562 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: matches you sense. That SO i Think coco was, like, 563 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: oh she's not going to hit me off the court 564 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: to win the. Match so now what DO i? DO 565 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: i lock? IN i lock in and make her beat, 566 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: me just Like rafa did at five all in the 567 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: fifth set at The Strain. Open, OKAY i choked that. 568 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: Game now you have to beat me Because i'm not 569 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: going to give. Up And, COCO i could see in 570 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: her eye she was, like Oh chin when got? Tight, 571 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: YEAH i know she hasn't closed me out in Two 572 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: she didn't close me out. There IF i hang around 573 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: long enough and play MY a grade, TENNIS i will 574 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: win this. Match and even losing those two match, points 575 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: as soon as the tie break, STARTED i knew That 576 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: coco went into that tie break still feeling good about 577 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: her tennis wass chin WHEN i wasn't sure she could 578 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: close it. Out and that's what. 579 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: Happened and you could tell you what's your takeaway for 580 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: her from this? Tournament? 581 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: GOOD i think she's playing. 582 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: GROSS i like that she was. 583 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: PASSED i, well. LISTEN i think she's a player that's 584 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: going to always be not a bad, loser that's not 585 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: the right, word but a player that's always going to 586 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: feel a sting when she. Loses And sabalanka is a great, 587 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: loser but she feels a. Sting but they respond very, 588 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Differently And sabalanka has talked about she was a bad 589 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: loser and blah blah, blah and she took it too. 590 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Much and Maybe chin when will get, there she won't 591 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: be as like cranky after she, loses you, know coming from, 592 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: ME i was a terrible, Loser So i'm not he 593 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: who custs the first time kind of. Thing but or. 594 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: She BUT i think her tennis and her. MOVEMENT i 595 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: think her movement has. IMPROVED i think her end range 596 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: shots have gotten. 597 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: Better, yes on the, run she's able to, generate especially 598 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: the back end, offense especially if the back, end which 599 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: is amazing because that two. Hands you sometimes don't see, 600 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: that especially on the women's. Side for, ME i JUST 601 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 2: i love the way she plays tennas. LIKE i love 602 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: how explosive she. IS i LOVE i don't mind the 603 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: hitch in the. SRUB i love the fact that she's coming. 604 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: IN i love her. ATHLETICISM i, mean. 605 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: She can get much better than. 606 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: That she can't get. 607 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Much she missed some really important vollies in this. Match 608 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: her technique was pretty. Terrible Pair, reba give me a. 609 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: Call BUT i thought that overall her tennis has improved 610 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: so much in the even since The Austrain, Open like 611 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: she's a way better player. 612 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: Than and that's kind of the POINT i was going 613 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: to ask you, about like for, me just seeing how 614 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: well she has competed and for me what this year 615 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: has been. About, obviously getting a gold medal is, incredible 616 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: but not super always, Indicative like we've had some pretty, 617 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: random you, Know olympic performances through the past years on both, 618 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: sides men and. Women so for, me it's more just, Like, 619 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: okay where did she start in the finals of The Australian, 620 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: open which was not a bad place to start the, 621 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: year but lost pretty, badly and THEN i think slowly closed. 622 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: Also the first real big matches for, Sure but ALSO. 623 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 2: I guess the only Point i'm saying IS i think 624 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: where she started the year and where she ended of the, 625 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: year she closed a pretty big gap between herself and 626 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: the very elite. PLAYERS i still think she's a step 627 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: below and, norms BUT i like very much that she's 628 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: competing and sort of taking it a little bit more 629 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: than just kind of getting hit, around which is is you, 630 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: KNOW i think where she was at the beginning of the, YEAR. 631 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: I THINK'ST i don't think she's a step below, THEM 632 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: i think she's half a step below. THEM i think 633 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: she's improved so much in the last three four months 634 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: her end Rained AS i, said her End ryane shots 635 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: are so much better BECAUSE i thought she got attacked 636 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: big time on the back end like she because the 637 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: way she her back and she's a bit a bit 638 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: risty on her backhand as opposed to sort of Like, 639 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: coco the way she hits her backhand d it's less, 640 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: shoulder a little bit too. Handsy it's, handy a little 641 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: bit like Ash, buddy Like Sam, stoza like those back 642 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: ends a little bit. Slappy SO i think that that 643 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: is a shot that can get a bit, better and 644 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: that comes with, strength and it comes with getting, faster 645 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: and which is she's absolutely improved her. MOVEMENT i think 646 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: she can get much better at than. Net her surf 647 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: can be even. Better SO i think there's a lot of. 648 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Upside the interesting thing is that Her cocoa And eager 649 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: have such heavy, top spinny forehandsy Western, yeah and that 650 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: is such an advantage in women's tennis because women do 651 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: not not men, either but particularly women do not like 652 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: the ball above their. Shoulders they're not as strong as 653 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the men above the. Shoulders they like the ball around hip, 654 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: level which is why they all hit the ball so 655 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: flat and hard and. Good but when you get the 656 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: ball above someone's, shoulders now you've got a that's not. 657 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Easy and when you're eating all, flat that's the worst. 658 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Shot Whereas coco actually likes her ball because the, spin 659 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: the top spin is, good but because of her, speed 660 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: she can get out there and she can spin it back. 661 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: Right So eager on, clay it's that's why Chen wyn 662 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Gives eager some trouble on, clay which is why she 663 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: beat her at The, olympics because that spin That eager 664 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: usually puts on people and jumps away from, them she likes. 665 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: That she actually likes it better up high Like coco 666 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: as opposed to down low around the knee level, like 667 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: which is Why pergola usually has a Great rekcoud Against 668 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: coco because the balls like around her knees as opposed 669 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: to her. Shoulders so there's so many variables in, tennis 670 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: and matchups are really. Important BUT i love the fact 671 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: that these three are coming with These western grips and 672 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: their kids are going to watch this and, go that's 673 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: HOW i want to hit my forehand, now because it's 674 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: very rare shot to see with a lot of top. 675 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Spin i'm shucked this the moment that you're coming out 676 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: in support Of western foehand. 677 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: Grips, LISTEN i haven't been the never a lot of 678 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: my life western forehand grip, Abuse, no, No but there's 679 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: a difference between A western grip and a Real western, 680 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: grip like Far, OVER i would never teach cocos forehand, never, ever, ever, 681 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: ever Ever eager's. FOREHAND i prefer An ash party for hand, 682 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: grip where she is a semi which is a Semi 683 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: western with a. Finner you can bull whip the, finish 684 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: you get the. Spin, Still sam's forehand was More western Than. 685 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: ASHES i would be in between those. TWO i would 686 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: absolutely not teach cocos Forehand. 687 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: Group way three in the. World who's the Most? 688 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: Western Coco, coco Then, eager Then, eager and THEN i 689 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: Think gin wins about Where eager, is but cheats a 690 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: little bit. Differently so there's also how you finish on 691 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: it as. Well do you get through the ball or 692 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: do you do windscreen. Wiper there's all different ways of 693 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: doing it. Well Like Sam stows is a perfect exam 694 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: when she was on finishing through her forehand good. Luck 695 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: but those. FOURHANDS i think we're going to see more 696 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: and more of them on the women's. Tour but it's 697 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: a little bit harder with the women because they're not 698 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: quite as strong as as a. Boy so a girl's 699 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: not quite as, strong so that she tends to hit 700 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: it a little bit. Flatter BUT i, think if there's 701 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: a good coach out, there you, know get, this get 702 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: the semi western and, really you, know get them working 703 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: that buggy whip forehand because it is such an. Advantage 704 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: and WHEN i stand. 705 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: Us i'm excited for next year based on this incredible. 706 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: FORUMCE i can't think of a, player, TRULY i cannot 707 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: think of one player who was at THE w two. 708 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: FINALS i can think of a player who gotten done 709 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: dirty by that, portrait which, is oh my. GOD i 710 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: want To Jasmine. Paolini they put you on a folding? 711 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: Chair what the? 712 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Fuck? 713 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: Like who You plini want to? Go and she went 714 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: to TWO sam. Finals if anybody's going to be on 715 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: the folding, chair put the trophy on the folding, chair 716 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: put a. Trophy BUT i want to say very, CAREFULLY 717 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 2: i really liked the photo shoot. Itself if you looked 718 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: at a lot of the different photos they took a 719 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: really interesting sort of, angle the tone of, it the, 720 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: angle the sort of depth of. Field And i'm calling 721 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: this out BECAUSE i don't want to be a, hater 722 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i think the idea of the you, know this 723 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 2: period of our, lives but also just like, okay let 724 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: them do whatever they. WANT i just want to, say, hey, 725 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: guys you came so, close like, great you picked a 726 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: great location for the. Shoot everyone looked. Great everyone's outfits looked. 727 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: Amazing chin went and stole the. SHOW i mean right 728 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: in the middle in that red like she really crushed. 729 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: It Jess pogula second place looked. GREAT i Mean cocoa also. 730 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: Great everybody looked. Great, yeah a little more depth of. 731 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: Field if you look at their individual portraits where you 732 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: see some of the Like Middle eastern architectural, features it's, like, 733 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: oh this is. Interesting it looks. Different and then they 734 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: put them all in front of this wall that could 735 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: have just been a bland. Studio if you didn't know 736 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: that they were shooting someplace, spectacular you would just, think, 737 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 2: oh they're in a dumb indoor studio with like a 738 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: paper behind. Them OH i thought it Was, no it's 739 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: at a beautiful Like Unesco World, heritage get out of, 740 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: here which is why it was so, frustrating BECAUSE i was, 741 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: like you guys. 742 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: Picked the right. Spot oh my, god. 743 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: You failed on a few really small things that ended 744 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: up being really. Dumb and so somebody AND. 745 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: I trust you being The racket, magazine which is so 746 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: beautifully shot and all that sort of, stuff and it 747 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: was funny because you're the one that sent me the 748 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: photo AND i was just, like, ah. Whatever and then 749 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: she was like the folding, chair AND i was, like 750 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: oh my, god you're. Right what do they put? 751 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: Chair they had two little, cities two little stools, essentially 752 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 2: and they Gave Jess bagoula one and they put the 753 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: trophy on the, other and then they ran out of, 754 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: them obviously because somebody was just, like, oh let's get 755 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: just your folding. 756 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: Chair it's like when you come over to my apartment 757 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: here AND i have a little outdoor, space YES i 758 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: do In New York. CITY i am, fancy and it's 759 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: not quite enough, chairs And i'll go down to the garbage, 760 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: area Which i've done in a couple of times. Recently 761 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: and because my Neighbors jeremy And, marty their chairs keep, 762 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: breaking and SO i keep finding chairs down in the, 763 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: garbage AND i keep bringing up for the guys, Sloky 764 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Like it's, like, hey, guys party. 765 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: And someone gets the mismatched dinner. Setting you're, like, hey are, 766 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: bad sorry we only have eight and you're, Yes but 767 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: in this, case it's like nobody thought of, this like. 768 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: Or just we know how many players were going and 769 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: it's the top. 770 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: Eight, ANYWAY i want to lose this tangent it. WAS 771 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: i want to use this tangent to introduce the, men 772 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: which their photo shoot is the most important topic on 773 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: my mind at the, moment which, is, uh they took 774 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: a picture which looks very, beautiful and again from the 775 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: general the general aesthetic is. Fine. Uh everyone wore like 776 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: kind of khaki double breasted suits and it looks. 777 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: Like the debate didn't have a double Breasted taylor. Disappointed 778 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: taylor did. 779 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 2: NOT i think sponde By. 780 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Boss, like come, on, dude what where is the Beautiful. 781 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: He should have been wearing a silk two, thousand you, 782 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: know and he's wearing. 783 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 1: You feel About? TAYLOR i, like BUT i think he's very, 784 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: handsome are you? KIDDING i think maybe it was somebody. 785 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: Else we were just watching him play medventive AND i was, 786 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 2: THINKING i get. 787 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: It, yeah he's incredibly, handsome and he. Did he looks 788 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: great in those Bust actually he did that like uh 789 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: that that like model fashion. SHOES i was, like, DAMN 790 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: i wrote him AND i was, like, damn you have 791 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: a second. Career. Bro yeah he looked like. 792 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: No, no, No i'm here For. 793 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: Taylor he looked like he looked like a guy that 794 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: was just like had no idea about. Fashion AND i 795 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: know more his girlfriend she knows what's. Up i'm surprised 796 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: she let him out the door looking like. 797 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 2: That that, SAID i don't know that he looked worse 798 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: Than Casper, rude who looked hippie in his double breasted 799 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 2: suit in the front at least to fit. Him it 800 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 2: didn't fit. Him, Again, taylor it's. Unflattering it looks like 801 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 2: he has it's A David beckham. Look David beckham can 802 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: pull it off because He's. Beckham no, booty because none 803 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 2: of those soccer players. Are he has no booty at the. 804 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: Bottom are you? 805 00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: Sure i'm not, positive but guys does Not David beckham. 806 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: As good As David beckham. Does David beckham has that 807 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: sacer body where it's Like Rangey casper has a little 808 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 2: junk in the. Trunk i'm just, saying maybe a double 809 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: breast is not the. Move the sum total is they 810 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 2: look like. Terrible they look like a high school debate 811 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 2: team that showed up at the state. 812 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: Capitol, yeah the lacrosse. 813 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 2: Team you're, like, hey, guys are your guys all waiting 814 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 2: in line to shake your local lawmaker's? 815 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: Hand oh my, god it's not. 816 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: The look they're going for. 817 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: It let's talk about the only singles match that we've 818 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: seen at THE atp To Ren finn and, yes of 819 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: Course sinner is the. Favorite DO i think he's going 820 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: to be affected by? It, NO i think he's going 821 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: to love being loved out there and getting a lot 822 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: of support into. RENT i think he's the. Favorite i'm 823 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: coming right now. WINNING i don't know how fast the cord. 824 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Is it's if it's really. Fast taylor has a really good, 825 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: Chot so let's get to. That so let's get to 826 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the meltdown today Of. 827 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: Medvede so there's been one match at THE atp in, 828 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 2: singles and it was a. Doozy it was a. Doozy 829 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: medvedev goes out To Taylor. Fritz it looked like the 830 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 2: first set in the half was, competitive sort of. Competitive 831 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: and then Obviously, medvedev god is very. Unlucky he's wont 832 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: To but before that he had broken his racket three double. 833 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 2: Faults he went off the, rails as it sometimes says With, 834 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 2: medvedev which is WHY i love him so. Much, yeah 835 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: he's A russian. 836 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Tragedy he's a box of, chocolates is what he. Is of, 837 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: course breakpoint at, two three thirty, forty big. Point but 838 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: also we all will we often see breakpoints and the, 839 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: boof it's gone and it's three. 840 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: Off great, serve great comes in on a great. 841 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: Shot taylor's In, deadsville hits a. Fourhand he's you, know. 842 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: Shanks it, fourhand has not hit a single. 843 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: String shanks it a perfect lob over the top Of 844 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: medvedev's head lands, IN i, mean the unluckiest way to 845 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: lose a point. 846 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: Ever but instead of just and you, Know taylor holds 847 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: up his. Hands he's, like oh, sorry. 848 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah but it's a set and for two down To, Taylor, 849 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 1: fritz he's you done. 850 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: Well he certainly was. Done there was no vomus. 851 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: Was a total mental. BREAKDOWN i, MEAN i. 852 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: Think it was three games worth of just. 853 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: Two and a half. Games he came, back did? 854 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: He he sort of recovered to hold the serve yet. 855 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: Again two broken, rackets one broken, microphone one broken. Microphone 856 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 2: at one point he had an Extended, no he didn't 857 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 2: break his second. 858 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: Racket he kept throwing it in the air and pretending 859 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: to catch, it and then and. 860 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: Then pretending that he was unable to catch. 861 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: It he looked at the, like, oh slippery. Hands oh, sorry, sorry, 862 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: sorry BUT i mean WHICH i. 863 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: GOT i appreciated the extended bit Of i'm trying to 864 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 2: catch my, racket But i'm not trying and everyone knows, 865 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: it But i'm gonna feign THAT i loved. 866 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: It we might get a lot of like interesting takes on, 867 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: this BUT i don't know, who BUT i hear laughing 868 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: my ass, off does anybody Just the commentators were, like, 869 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: oh this is some terrible sports. Ship, no they were, 870 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: saying it's just not dis, respect Disrespect Tailor. 871 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: Fritz it's. 872 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: Disrespect If I'm Taylor, FRITZ i am so fucking happy 873 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: down And i'm probably entertained with my opponent holding his 874 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: racket the wrong way around to turn. 875 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: Serve he's putting the handle out to return to the. 876 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: BALL i do think we need to Because i've been 877 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: a bit of a scold in the past When i've 878 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: used players as having a bad sporting. Attitude AND i 879 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 2: want to differentiate between when a person is exhibiting bad 880 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 2: sportsmanship towards their, opponent towards the, crowd towards the, umpire 881 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: and when an opponent is just having their own personal 882 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 2: meltdown that is contained within their personal space and their 883 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: personal body and their personal, psyche which is amazing and 884 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 2: that we should never get rid. Of he's not harming 885 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: anybody but. 886 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: Himself, YEAH i, mean, listen if he throws his reck 887 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: and he goes in the, crowd don ski. 888 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: And the second he hurts, Somebody, yes of course he's 889 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 2: gonna get fined for breaking that? Microphone should? He some 890 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: poor balkin had to go and pick up the pieces 891 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 2: of WHAT i assume as a very expensive piece of. 892 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 2: Equipment he's paying for, that and he, can and it's not. 893 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 2: Great i'm not condoning breaking, shit BUT i am, saying, 894 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: like this guy wants to do an extended bit where 895 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: he riffs off and like takes his point penalties and 896 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: gifts you know games and. Ships, yeah, easy let him. 897 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: Listen i've done. IT i have a very, memorable maybe 898 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: not so memorable moment in my. 899 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: Career memorable you blacked. 900 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: Out, No it was a moment WHERE i ran back 901 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: for a ball at THE Wta finals In la at 902 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: The Staples, center and the ball went over my. HEAD 903 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: i was running down a lob AND i was trying 904 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: to get it AND i was one of my best, 905 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: shots was actually running back and being able to hit 906 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: a ball from behind me and flick it back. Up 907 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: you know people do the. TWEENER i just would flick it. 908 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: Up in the, END i could hit. THAT i would 909 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: tell my partners a reverse, overhead a reverse, overhead AND 910 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: i would say to my, partners or even just a, lob, 911 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: right just a reverse. LOB i would say to my, partners, 912 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: LISTEN i KNOW i look might look Like i'm in, 913 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: trouble but trust, Me i'm going to get this. Back 914 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: And i'm going to get it back deep in the, 915 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: court whether it was on my backhand or on my, 916 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: forehand and, Anyway So i'm running it down AND i 917 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: ran out of room basically because of the, court, Right, 918 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: so AND i put my foot through the back of. 919 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: That you, know the sign was so mad because it 920 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: was in my way AND i broke that. Thing it's 921 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: not proud of, it so they would have had to replace. 922 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 2: That they, find of COURSE i. 923 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 1: DID i got a, warning or MAYBE i didn't get 924 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: a warning BECAUSE i SAID i ran into the, thing 925 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: WHICH i kind of sort of. Did THEN i kind, 926 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: of you, know went a little bit, extra kind of 927 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: Like medvedev day to catch the racket every time he 928 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: threw it in the. 929 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: Air So i'll say this. Too the way That medvedev 930 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: spirals is new every. Time, yeah it. 931 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: Is it's. True that is. True we haven't seen that. 932 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 2: Before, no he calls people small, cats he gives, lectures 933 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: he Speaks. FRENCH i don't know he's until he's harming other. 934 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: People I'M. Ok and If I'm Taylor fritz And i'm 935 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: looking very fit and very good in his and he 936 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 2: got rid of his blonde can look the blonde. Thing 937 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: his job was beach maybe for that, week but now he's. 938 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: BACK i just want to, say If i'm The, Fritz i'm, like, yeah, 939 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: cool let him let them let him. Go he's freaking. 940 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: OUT i don't, know like this is benefiting. Me get 941 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 2: another game. 942 00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: POINT i don't. Know taylor is not the type of 943 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: bee Like he's just, like oh, Yeah i'm just going 944 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: to serve an. Ace he looks, great and he looks incredibly. Fit, 945 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: Yeah i've ever seen he's running balls. Down he is 946 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: like his confidence is sky. High DO i think he 947 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: can win A Grand? Slam, yes come, on of, COURSE 948 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: i do believe that he can win A Grand. Slam 949 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 1: BUT i do believe, this AND i have actually spoken 950 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: to him about. This he's got to improve his, volleys 951 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: just even if it's, twenty if you can get it, better, 952 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: YES i will give him a lot of credit because 953 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: what did he do? Today because he knew that he 954 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: was winning that match match, point and he made the. 955 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: Volley it was ugly as, hell it was beautiful as a. 956 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: Point but come, on, MAN i know that you can do. 957 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: It and if he can come into the, net AND 958 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: i know he's allergic to, it but if he wants 959 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: to Beat sinner and if he wants to Beat, alcaaz 960 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: because those are the two guys that he's basically going 961 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: to have to beat to win A Grand. Slam going, 962 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: forward he must implement a very, basic easy put Away volly. 963 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 2: Well that match point hopefully was a good. Instruction open 964 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 2: up the, court, open open, court valley, Winner, yeah cross. 965 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 2: Court that's. It he doesn't have, to you, know pick 966 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: up balls out the, half bounce off the shoelaces Like 967 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: becker or. Anything just some competent going. In but also 968 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: he's so, big his service so, big and a lot 969 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: of these guys sound so far. BACK i actually think 970 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 2: this is like a totally Viable you have to be 971 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 2: able to come in to do that in a way that's, 972 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: exciting and he has a lot OF i think room 973 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 2: to improve in just generally taking away the. 974 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: Net you have to come into the. Net you have 975 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: to be able to finish off a. Point these guys 976 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: move too, well The alcarazes And sinners of the world 977 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: move too. Well you. 978 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 2: Can't they get you all. 979 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: Back they neutralized and they'll come in and they come. 980 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: In that's exactly you have to take the initiative After. 981 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: As And sinner come into the, net they finish off. 982 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: Points AND i, said the next great tennis player on 983 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: men's on the men's tour must have a Differentiated they 984 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: must come. In alcaraz has implemented the fourhand drop, shot 985 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: but he comes into the. Net sinner has improved his net. 986 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: Play it's why he wins matches. Now he finishes off 987 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: that big fourhand and comes. In That's Darren cahill like 988 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: getting him to finish points. There taylor must be able 989 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: to come into the net and finish off points at the. 990 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: Net and if he can do that and implement just 991 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: a ten to fifteen percent swing in coming, forward he 992 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: will win a Potential Grand. Slam till he does, that 993 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: he will. 994 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 2: NOT i THINK i want you after this podcast is 995 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: over to text him and, say when you have, time 996 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: give me a. 997 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: Ring Paul anakin is apparently one of his, Coaches Paul. 998 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: Anakhin all he did was. 999 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: Servant i'm also talking about the, valleys but also the 1000 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: single breasted. 1001 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: Blazer oh, yeah we can, talk. 1002 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 2: We can get. 1003 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: Well moggs needs to be on. That i'm surprised she 1004 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: let him get away with. That, Morgs i'm. 1005 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 2: Disappointed maybe it was a packing. Error whatever it, Is 1006 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: i'm excited he's playing. Well i'm rooting for, him And 1007 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 2: i'm excited for this. Week i'm going to end on this. 1008 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 2: NOTE i have two amazing projects that are going on right, 1009 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 2: now AND i have a movie. Recommendation that's, so, so 1010 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 2: so so. 1011 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 1: Good martha On netflix was, great. Y'all, What, yeah, Well 1012 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: Martha stuart documentary talk about a. Badass, yeah She's i'm 1013 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: obsessed with. 1014 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: She's She. 1015 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: The fact that she went away to prison for six 1016 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: months for forty five thousand dollars when she was at 1017 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 1: the time a billionaire is. Outrageous and you know what 1018 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: she did in, There she bloody made people's. Lives she planted, 1019 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: gardens she made jobs for. People she was. Awesome it's 1020 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: such a good. Documentary it also showed her business. Acumen 1021 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: it also showed her badass meess you, know and she 1022 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: was called not in very nice names by a lot of. 1023 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: People it also showed a really interesting perspective of. Her 1024 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: SO i urge you to watch it and get back 1025 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: to me on the socials and let me know what your. 1026 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 2: Thought which. Socials let's try out. Threads everyone see us 1027 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 2: on there and give it so we'll do a competition 1028 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 2: between who like two's movie. Better so you're Recommending mirth On. 1029 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 2: Netflix mine is also A netflix. Film even THOUGH i 1030 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 2: sat in, theaters it does not come out yet On, 1031 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 2: netflix will be Out. Wednesday emilia pees The Missus doubtfaire 1032 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 2: Mits courier musical starring z Is A Donna Selida gomez, 1033 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: okay transactress From. Spain, no it's. Nets it's a cartel 1034 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 2: movie that's also a musical with the cartel leader. Transitions 1035 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: it's bananas. 1036 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: From a man to a. Woman uh, huh oh my, 1037 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: god that's so. 1038 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 2: Good it's. Nuts and also It's french. 1039 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: Somehow oh, geez now you're making me. 1040 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: Worse not In, french but it's. Great it was by 1041 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: A french director Of Sean. 1042 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: Fred, guys, Guys i'm giving you a morning Weird, okay 1043 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: so just go into. It if you're, weird it is, 1044 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: your it is your. JAM i will watch it just 1045 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: because you said, so AND i wanted to get back 1046 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: to you guys next week about WHAT i thought. 1047 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: About i'll watch Mart martha and you watch it With. 1048 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: CLAIRE i Think claire will love it. 1049 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 2: More claire will love. It the tennis has been amazing 1050 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: to finish the. Year some of the. COMMENTARY i have 1051 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 2: a lot to say about. 1052 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: It we were talking about you, here talking about, it not. 1053 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: Me instead of naming names and talking about stuff that 1054 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 2: we don't, LIKE i THOUGHT i would ask you since 1055 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 2: you're widely regarded and in my, consideration one of the 1056 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 2: best commentators working today about a. 1057 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: Lot you wouldn't say that because you like to hate on. 1058 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 2: ME i don't like to hate on, you but you, 1059 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 2: honest you, know SO i will say, truly WHAT i 1060 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: like about your commentary is it's. Insightful there's technical. Elements 1061 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 2: you don't talk too. Much that's not always something that 1062 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 2: other commentators adhere. To so instead of hating on anybody 1063 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: or kicking anybody, publicly let's INSTEAD i want to ask, 1064 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 2: you what are things that you think good commentators? Do 1065 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 2: and if you're coaching somebody who wanted to get into, 1066 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 2: it what would your sort of like rules of thumb. 1067 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: Be, well SOMETIMES i talk too much AND i will take. 1068 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: IT i will take advice from. PEOPLE i do get, 1069 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: people you, know hating on me On twitter about, that 1070 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: and and it's. Hard sometimes you, know you want, information 1071 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: you want. It you see, stuff and you know, ME 1072 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: i like to critique AND i like TO i like to, inform, 1073 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 1: Right so sometimes you got to a little less is 1074 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: a little less is. More So i'm learning that through the. 1075 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: YEARS i have a great executive producer THAT i work with. 1076 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: Now his Name's mike, McQuaid and he's given me some really, 1077 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: great valuable. Information and one of the things that he 1078 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: always tells me is always tell me the why, renee 1079 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: so you, know you can make a comment, like, oh 1080 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: that was such a great. Shot that was in a 1081 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: difficult shot for eager to hit whie, Right so it is. 1082 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: Difficult twenty seconds is not a lot of time to 1083 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: be able to get information out in between. Points and 1084 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: as they, said you don't want to. Talk you absolutely 1085 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 1: should never talk when a point is in. Play And 1086 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: i'm very cognizant of. THAT i do not do. That 1087 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: and people say THAT i do, LIE i do. 1088 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 2: NOT i maybe they could be confusing you with many 1089 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: others because the amount of offenders on this point is. Prolific, 1090 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 2: YEAH i hate of mine and people are talking to the. 1091 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: Point the only SOUNDS i want my commentators to, make if, 1092 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: any are just gasps because it's so exciting while we're 1093 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: watching that they cannot help. It. Yeah, otherwise absolutely no. 1094 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: Talking, yeah no talking over. Points that really bothers. Me 1095 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,840 Speaker 1: and one of the things THAT i like to, do 1096 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: and if you listen to my, commentary is when there 1097 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: is a great point and or the crowd is clapping 1098 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: and is very. EXCITED i try not to talk. IMMEDIATELY 1099 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: i like to hear the, crowd so When i'm hearing 1100 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: it in my, HEADPHONES i like. That people like that as, 1101 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 1: Well SO i try and then talk once it slowly. 1102 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: Dissipates then tell the people WHAT i just, saw or 1103 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: what to, anticipate or what's. Happening SO i try not 1104 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,799 Speaker 1: to talk over the. Crowd real crowd, noise particularly at 1105 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: THE Us, open because THE Us open is so loud 1106 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: and the crowd is so loud that even when you're, 1107 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: commentating And i've said this to some of my fellow, 1108 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: Commentators i'm, like, Guys i'm sitting at. HOME i cannot hear. 1109 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: You the crowd is so loud and the ambient noise 1110 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 1: is so loud at THE Us. Open do not talk 1111 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: immediately after the, point unless there's a gasp where, ah 1112 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: or you, know Like patrick says, hello like things like. 1113 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: That that's. Okay but when you talk and the, Crowds i'm, 1114 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: LIKE i can't hear. You so all the things that 1115 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,280 Speaker 1: you said might have been some of the best, shit 1116 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: BUT i didn't hear. It SO i try and let 1117 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 1: the crowd go wild and then they start to, settle 1118 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: and Then i'll say. Something so that is a big 1119 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: thing of, mine another thing THAT i try and, do 1120 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: AND i will say THAT i learned this From Lindsay, 1121 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: davenport is that she tries to not talk too much in, 1122 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: tiebreaks AND i try that as. WELL i try to 1123 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: give and, again my executive, producer give me what we 1124 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: need to look for at the start of the. Tiebreak 1125 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: you know what's important to look. For what's you know out? 1126 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: Wide serve doesn't like titter foland down the. Line what it? 1127 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 1: Is get it out there before the tiebreak, starts so 1128 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: the listener at home can look for. 1129 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: It as you were saying, THAT i was thinking to, Myself, 1130 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 2: Yes Lindsay davenport has, Choice, yes. 1131 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: Minimal lindsay is one of my. 1132 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 2: Favorites she's because SHE i do LIKE i. Feel it's, additive, 1133 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 2: ye and it's informing. Me and then it's out AND 1134 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: i am and Then i'm, watching which is WHAT i 1135 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 2: really want to be. DOING i want to be helped 1136 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 2: to watch more. INCASIVELY i do not want a friend 1137 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: in my. EAR i want somebody to point something out 1138 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 2: to me and then let me see. 1139 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: It AND i like TO i like to. FORETELL i 1140 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: like to, say for, example THAT i put On twitter 1141 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: this is not over, yet BECAUSE i want people to 1142 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: not be, like, oh well this match is over and 1143 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: sort of turn THE tv off as. WELL i, SEE i, 1144 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: see you, know people's you, know anxiety on their face 1145 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: when they miss a, shot And i'm, like, oh this 1146 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: is so not. OVER i like to. FORETELL i like 1147 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: to SAY i think this is actually going to a 1148 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: tiebreak in the. THIRD i don't think this is. OVER 1149 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: i think that chinuin is going to get tight BECAUSE 1150 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: i want people to, go, oh, really oh this will be. 1151 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: Interesting let me let me. Look SO i like to 1152 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: help people actually see the nuances of the. Game SO 1153 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: i think that's really important to. 1154 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,839 Speaker 2: People is there a general rule about prognostication to people 1155 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 2: to debat? 1156 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 1: It? 1157 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 2: Do some people refuse to do it and other. 1158 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: People some people just. NO i just don't think some 1159 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: people see. IT i don't think some people see it 1160 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,600 Speaker 1: or feel. IT i just think that's a natural thing 1161 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 1: you either do or you. Don't and some people don't 1162 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: want to be. Wrong i'm not afraid to be. Wrong i'm, 1163 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: like well that was, wrong, geez she just served that 1164 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: match out easily, so And i'm happy to say. That 1165 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 1: BUT i Think i'm USUALLY i am more on the 1166 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: side of WHAT i see and WHAT i, feel And 1167 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: i'm usually more right than, wrong and there are times 1168 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: Where i'm, wrong, absolutely SO i think those are. Important 1169 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: but the one thing THAT i absolutely really agree with 1170 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: is when the crowd is going. Crazy the crowd is the. 1171 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: Story so let the crowd go. Crazy And i've learned 1172 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: that through the. Years i've had great producers in my 1173 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: ear that have, said you, know they'll sometimes some, yell 1174 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: some don't, yell but some will say less is more. Right, 1175 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: now let the crowd tell the. Story let the let 1176 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: the let the let the moment tell the. Story and you, 1177 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: Know I've i've, Listened i've been, Uh i've fucked. Up, 1178 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes i've talked. 1179 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 2: WHEN i shouldn't, have of, COURSE i, mean you're it's not. 1180 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: Normal but the one thing during the slams, rather the 1181 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: one thing THAT i want to call out also IS 1182 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: i always love AND i think increasingly as coaching is 1183 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 2: allowed and as there are more mics on the when 1184 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: the coaches, talk when when the coach is, talking or 1185 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 2: when the players are having an argument with each, other 1186 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 2: or the, umpire shut. UP i just want to see. 1187 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: It as they say In, spain. 1188 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: That's. It just let we can. Day we will be 1189 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 2: persing whatever goes on or kills me on the internet 1190 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,919 Speaker 2: for days, afterwards if not. More but during that, moment. 1191 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: Your point of view and your perspective and your words 1192 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: don't mean anything compared to what we could hear from the. 1193 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: Player and also What i've noticed is they're often. Wrong 1194 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: they're immediately, interpreting and you're kind of, like, hey we don't, 1195 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 2: know or actually this person is saying one thing with their, 1196 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 2: mouth their body is saying something. 1197 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 1: ELSE i will reverse that and SAY i think it's 1198 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: a person that was quite emotional can see that better 1199 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: than someone who was not. 1200 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 2: EMOTIONAL i guess my point is just until we know what's, 1201 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 2: happening nobody needs to interpret an on court, scuffle. 1202 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: Just not because they could be telling you exactly what 1203 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: they're feeling or seeing or can you imagine talking over 1204 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: that response to. 1205 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 2: Or a amount of players who come from countries where 1206 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 2: the language is not. 1207 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: Still there are people out there that understand is. 1208 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: Many so if A chinese, player if A spanish speaking, PLAYER. 1209 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: I just take a Ca. 1210 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 2: Russian like there's enough major major languages being spoken on 1211 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 2: these tours that if somebody is screaming, SOMETHING. 1212 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: I want to know what it. Is, YEAH i want 1213 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: TO i. Have WHAT i do IS i, say okay, 1214 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: PEOPLE i do not Speak russian Or chinese or. Whatever 1215 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: but that was clearly text me and not text. ME 1216 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: i was a tweet at me and let me know 1217 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: what they're. 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Ear so for, me especially with a lot 1227 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 2: of players who you, know are a little bit more 1228 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 2: florid with their linguistic choices on the, COURT i would 1229 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: love if some of these teams had EPs or at 1230 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 2: least maybe looked at the tweets or now we're going 1231 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 2: to maybe start, threading so everyone migrate and. 1232 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: Put a thread through. 1233 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 2: It, Right, well, look at, that we have to tour wrap. 1234 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 2: Ups we have movie, recommendations we have little bonus advice for. 1235 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: Commons anything less is, more but also make your point 1236 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: and don't, waffle don't waffle to and always remember the, 1237 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: why remember the. 1238 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: Why all, right let's check in after you get back From. 1239 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:17,320 Speaker 1: Hey, Guys i'm after The Billy Jean King cup In, Mulligha, Malaga, Mulligha, Maulagha. 1240 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 1: Malaga the accent is on the first Air. 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