1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Why from this budget thing is going to do nothing 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: with space forts. I still think it's interesting President Trump 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and Politics Colliding 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the Influencers, the insides. I 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: looked in. You really have a divide within Team Trump. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: The President has to do exactly what people send him 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: here to do, which is to get it done. This 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven fm h D two. President 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: Trump says Iran had plans to attack four U. S. Embassies. 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 1: We check in with Morgan Artega, spokeswoman at the State's Department, 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and new sanctions against Iran. What does it mean for 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: the de escalating tensions between the two countries. Meanwhile, breaking 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: news on the impeachment front, President Trump says he's going 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: to invoke executive privilege folks to block Balton testimony. We 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: begin tonight with impeachment because there's new developments on President 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: Trump now telling Fox News that he would in fact 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: invoke executive privilege to prevent John Bolton, his former National 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Security advisor, from testifying. This just breaking this afternoon. Meanwhile, Uh, 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi says that next week 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: lawmakers are going in the House representatives. They're going to 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: pick their folks on who's going to represent the House 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: and do the prosecution in the Senate impeachment trial, which 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: is a strong indicator that this is going to get underway. 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of that, plus the latest 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: on the US and a Ron tensions, and oh yeah, 29 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: it's Job's Day, uh, and Maddie Doubler's here for Job's 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Day and she's eager to talk about jobs. We're gonna 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: get to it, Maddie. But a just missing estimates on 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: our jobs number, and you're giving me the link link 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: I can talk. Um. It was the last month that 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: we had jobs dat there for twenty nineteens. With a 35 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: couple of conclusions we can off in that, and we'll 36 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: get to those conclusions coming up. Mattie, of course, his 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 1: senior fellow at the National Taxpayers Union and the former 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: Coalitions director for the House Republican Conference, Mark Ross is here, 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: CEO of Cherical Global, affirm that specializes in globalization here 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: based in Washington, d C. He's also our go to 41 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: China expert, and Eli Yoakley returns. He's a political reporter 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: for Morning Consult Alright, Eli, Executive Privilege, John Bolton. I 43 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: didn't see this coming, I thought the other day at 44 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: the press conference, President Trump indicated that he would be 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: okay with whomever was going to testify. But when you 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: have somebody so eager to come out that might have 47 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: bad information about you, and that's sort of your only move. 48 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing he did in the House trial. Look, 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: we did some pulling on this this suite pretty timely, 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: looking at weather voters thought witnesses should appear in the 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Senate trial. Over half thought they did, including the big 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: majority of Democrats. Half of Independence Republican voters are split 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: evenly on this. A good chuck of the American people 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: want to hear witnesses. Trump doing this sort of puts 55 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: him at odds with that. But you know, an impeachment 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: trial is very different than a than a trial and 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: a court and so I get right. I mean, you're 58 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna have lawmakers up there, and Speaker Pelosi is going 59 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: to be you know launching the She's she's initiating the 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Trump trial next week. And then you've got this witness 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: fight now really really heating up. And I'm all read 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: from the Bloomberg terminal by my colleagues Billy House and 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Stephen T. Dennis, who have just done stellar reporting on this. Speaker, 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi in the House will prepare to send articles 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: of impeachment against President Donald Trump to the Senate next week, 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: triggering a new more serious phase of the battle over 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: witnesses at the trial. And I mean, folks, literally right 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: after she made this announcement, then uh, Susan Collins came 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: out and she says that she wants she's talking with 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: GOP colleagues because they all want to hear testimony. And 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: now you've got the Bolton thing. Yeah, well, policy is 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: feeling pressure to um the same pole. We did found 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: that the majority of voters wanted her to get on 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: with this, including most Democrats, thought it was time to 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: get this to the Senate's court. I mean, you saw 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: Senator Dian Fine Stit of California come out opposite of 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Pelosi on this. She saw even one of her chairmen 78 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: do this. She had to rein them in and then 79 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: here we are on Friday with her announcing this is 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: getting rolling. I think that's where the public probably is. 81 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, it's not all good news for 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I mean, still a majority of the public 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: thinks he should be impeached. Um half of the bookers 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: think he should resign from office right now. So this 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: is not a good place to be. And this Mark Ross, 86 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: I mean, come in here, because the markets really haven't 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: moved on any of the the up and down, uh 88 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: really stayed a play of the Senate impeachment trial, and 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: I don't anticipate that they will I mean, or I mean, 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: how do you gauge this? I mean, it seems that 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: the driving forces for the market movers next week are 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 1: going to be that meeting with President Trump and China 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: Vice Premier Laha, and not about whether or not John 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: Holton testifies. Yeah, it does seem like impeachment. Conventional wisdom 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: is that this is a nothing burger, that the Republicans 96 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: will control the process and that you know, Trump come 97 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: out unscathed. But you know, politically down the road, this 98 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: is unattended. Consequence of this, we just don't really know 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: to have a first term president someone seeking re election 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: with the term impeachment trial, fighting the process. Um, I 101 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: think the damage can be done long term to President Frump. 102 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, the markets cared about two things. They 103 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: cared about the FED and they cared about US China 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: trade relations. Now the FED has all but paused. The 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: trade question is the one that's outstanding, and even that 106 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: has been ameliorated somewhat. So it'll be interesting to see 107 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: in what drives market sentiment. But to go back to 108 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the impeachment thing, I think what we really need to 109 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: focus on here that we haven't talked about is what 110 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: happens when there's a trial in the Senate. That means 111 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: that the U. S. Senators have to be in Washington, 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: d c. To could participate in that trial. Who does 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: that matter to? Well? Of course the US centers who 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: are running for president and the Iowa caucuses are now 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: where are we at the tenths so there are twenty 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: day ish days away, But I go ahead of it 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: so that that to me was there seeing. I found 118 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: that interesting that Nancy Pelosi was delaying delivering these articles 119 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: because the timing is so important for Democrats and whether 120 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: or not it pulls them out of Io at a 121 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: crucial moment. Well, that's my question, Eli Oakley is uh, 122 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: the whole I can't even get off the question because 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: my my head is about to explode. The whole argument 124 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: for Speaker Pelosi was that she had this leverage, that 125 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: she was going to use this leverage to get concessions 126 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: for the trial. And now it's what a month later 127 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: post holiday recess, and what did she get by delaying 128 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: the trial other than a massive headache for these Democratic 129 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: presidential contenders. Well, I mean it's obviously, um what leverage 130 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: did she have. I mean she well, you're going for 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: a big deal with the start. I mean in their 132 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: camp they said, well, we're gonna get this because now 133 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: we can we can decide when the start at the trial. 134 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: But but I don't did she get anything? Yeah? I 135 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: guess we'll see. I mean. Senator McDonald said this week 136 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: that the question of witnesses would come up later on 137 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: after they move past the initial rules for the impeachment trial. 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: That will be something that a lot of Senators will 139 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: get to vote on, and some have expressed interest. Spriculer 140 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: in the Republican side, you've seen Romney say that he 141 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: wants to hear from John Boltie've heard if In Collins 142 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: say something similar. But don't you think that by her 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: signaling that she's going to hand over the the articles 144 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: of impeachment, that she's essentially saying, all right, no, no concessions, 145 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll all right. So let me let me say this. 146 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: Who won? I'm gonna ask the same question quickly, who 147 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: won Speaker Pelosi and McConnell and the trial of the impeachment. 148 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: In terms of the timing, I think probably it depends 149 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: on he's reflective look at this from obviously, but probably McConell, 150 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: definitely McConnell. Nancy Pelosi for months, I think she's the 151 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: best political operative in this town. What did she get 152 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: by delaying the trial? Seriously, other stuff leaked out. She's 153 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: putting more pressure on Collins and Romney. You know, anytime 154 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: you're fighting the process as opposed to uh, you know, 155 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: saying hey, we're gonna bring it on witnesses, that's not 156 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: a good thing for the Trumps. Terra and I think 157 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: there's a win in getting I'm sorry, but like authority 158 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: host privilege, I would say it's not a good thing 159 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: for the Democrats because you're not talking about the issue 160 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: of what potentially if you're talking process, you're losing, and 161 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: that the Democrats have to do now because I interrupted. 162 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Number one. Point Number one is that here we are 163 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: with John Bolton saying he's willing to testify. That is 164 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: a win for Nancy Pelosi. The challenge here is you 165 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: talk to Republicans looking at elections this year, like the 166 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: head of the National Republican Congressional Committee trying to win 167 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: back the House, and he says he wants to be 168 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: talking about impeachment all year long, and so dragging this 169 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: fight past Christmas into this debate about the Iowa Caucuses, 170 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: it's just extending a debate the Republicans want to be 171 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: talking about this year. And remember that what is delayed 172 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: in the Senate by impeachment is U s M c A. 173 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: What has been the administration's primary goal for the last 174 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: year is getting that trade deal done. I mean that 175 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: talking point that ad rights itself. Democrats fixated on impeachment 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: have delayed the delivery of a free trade agreement that 177 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: would allow us to continue to open up new pathways 178 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: and econom make success with our training partners. And speaking 179 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: of trade again, that big marker calendar on Wednesday, Laha, 180 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: Vice Premier China, come into the White House for that 181 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: China Phase one deal with the United States panel is 182 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna stay. We've got so much more to talk about 183 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: the latest on Iran. Maddie, Maddie Doppler, Mark Ross, Eli Yoakley. 184 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, at 185 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 186 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: You can also find us on Radio dot com, I 187 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Spotify. The State Department's Morgan Ortega's coming 188 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: up next, Kevin Surreally, you're listening to Bloomberg. This is 189 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Sound On with Kevin Surley on Bloomberg one and 190 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven FM HD two. Did they 191 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: have large scale attacks plan for other embassies? And if 192 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: those were planned, why can't we reveal that to the 193 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: American people? Wouldn't that help me your case? I can 194 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: reveal that I believe would have been for embassies. That 195 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: was President Trump speaking earlier today to Fox News is 196 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram saying that that he believes that Iran was 197 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: probably targeting the U. S. Embassy in Baghdad and was 198 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: also aiming to attack other embassies when it's top general 199 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: following the killing of its top general, Cassum Salamani. Earlier 200 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: today on Bloomberg Television, I caught up with Morgan or Tegus. 201 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: She came into our Washington bureau. She, of course, is 202 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: the spokesperson for the State's Department. Take a listen to 203 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: our interview. After all of the heightened tentions that we 204 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: saw over the past week, a lot of people have 205 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: been asking us what is the administration's policy? Where are 206 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: you going with us? Your viewers will know that for 207 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: the past year and a half, since we withdrew from 208 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: the j c p o A, we have pursued what 209 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: we call a maximum economic pressure campaign UM and that 210 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: in campaign involves diplomatic isolation and economic isolation of the 211 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: regime in Iran until they want to behave like a 212 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: normal nation and change their behavior. Also, the President said 213 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, whenever he gave his speech, that he called 214 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: on European countries, UH and other signatories of the j 215 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: c POA to withdraw from what he is always considered 216 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: to be a fundamentally flawed deal. So again, your viewers 217 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: should know that there is no leaning back on the 218 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: sanctions regime, if anything, we're leaning in now. I want 219 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: to talk about Europe in a second, but I was 220 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: looking through my notebook on the way back from the 221 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: White House, and you know, construction medals eight senior Iran officials, 222 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: additional sanctions on anyone trading or owning in Iran's economy. 223 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: I mean, this is arguably the most tough sanctions that 224 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: have ever really been implemented against run thus far to 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: this point. And not only that, we also named leader 226 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: members of the Supreme Councilors leadership that that are also 227 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: being sanctioned. It's important to note that Secretary of Pompeio 228 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: pointed out that some of these people were directly involved 229 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: in the ballistic missile missile attack against the United States. 230 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: And I would remind everyone that that ballistic that those 231 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: ballistic missiles are in defiance of Human Security Resolution UH 232 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Security Council Resolution one. UM. So there is a pattern 233 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: of behavior here of not complying with with these international agreements. 234 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: But you are going to let this the administration is 235 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: going to let us investigators look into that plane. Yeah, 236 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: we think that's incredibly important. I mean, obviously, as soon 237 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: as the Ukrainian airliner crash Secretary Pompeo tweeted his condolences 238 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: to the family. We never want to see the s 239 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: at loss of life, and so we are waiting for 240 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: a thorough investigation. Secretary Manuchan has said, whether it's Americans, Canadians, 241 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: Ukrainians whoever asked for a waiver to be involved in 242 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: this investigation, that we will permit it. And I would 243 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: remind you that the regime in Iran is still denying 244 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: what all Western countries have realized is the is what 245 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: happened as it relates to the Milia missile attack. That 246 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: was Morgan Ortegas. She, of course, is the spokeswoman for 247 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: the state's department. Speaking with me earlier today on Bloomberg Television, 248 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: she came into our Washington bureau. Maddie Doublers here, senior 249 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: fellow at the National Taxpayers Union, former Coalitions director for 250 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: the House Republican Conference. Eli Yokley, political reporter for MORN 251 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: console to Mark Fross, CEO of Cerical Global, Mark, I'm 252 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna start with you because I'm struck by how we're 253 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: ending the week with de escalating tensions between the US 254 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: and Iran. They've added additional sanctions as we've just heard 255 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: from Morgan, and I'm struck from your perspective and given 256 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: your background with China and the Chinese economy, well, what 257 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: China must be thinking about this, especially given their reliance 258 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: on the straight of horror moves and how that is 259 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: such a dominant area for them to get energy from. Yeah, 260 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: it's a huge issue not only for China but also Japan, 261 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: who's sending more, deploying some of the navy to work 262 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: in that part of the world. I mean, the amount 263 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: of energy that is being shipped from the Middle East 264 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: to Asia nearly six China's oil. Uh, it's a huge issue. 265 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: And even during this whole skirmish, the Chinese Foreign Minister 266 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: and made a trip to Tehran. Um, it's a very 267 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: complicated was that What was that trip? I would have 268 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: to say, I don't know, Tuesday, It was definitely this week, 269 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday, but this week. I mean, think folks, 270 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: that the Chinese Foreign minister goes to Tehran in the 271 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: middle of all of this. I mean, that just illustrates 272 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: just how important, how much how much China doesn't want 273 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: escalating tensions either, Well in Japan too, Like I just 274 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: really really at the end of the day, the global 275 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: economy still depends on the Middle East oil. You know, 276 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: America has been blessed with energy and independence, but the 277 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Middle East, Korea, Japan, China, India, they're all exporting a 278 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: lot of fuel out of there, and stability is key. 279 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: Can we just understand. Yesterday I interviewed the UH the 280 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: David Bernhardt, the Department of Interior, he's the Secretary of Interior, 281 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: and I mean he noted that that for the first 282 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: time in years really ever last year, I think it 283 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: was the first year where we became as a country 284 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the first exporter. For the first time, we export more 285 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: than we import in terms of oil. And that's pre 286 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: and war decision. No one knows and that when that 287 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: will happen, but it's a very different Middle Eastern skirmish 288 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: when you're exporting more energy than you're importing more energy, 289 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: like that wasn't the case back in That's correct. It 290 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: has changing calculist domestically for the US, but as our rule, 291 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, our US and aba superior, our rulerotecting global commons, 292 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: the need to protect global commerce. The military is taking 293 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: more focused look, so we're still focused on that part 294 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: of the world, even though we're not directly impacting by 295 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: importing the al Right, so that's the geopolitics. Let's now 296 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: turn to the domestic political impact of US and Iran. Eli, 297 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: what are the polls saying, How are the parties reacting 298 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: to this? How are independence reacting on this? Will be 299 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: in the field this weekend Singer response to the strikes 300 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: against US troops in the Middle least after Trump's initial strike. 301 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: Though most voters really supported the initial strike, though they 302 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: did say it made them less safe in this country, 303 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: and a greater show even said that they said it 304 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: made more war more likely, which we kind of saw 305 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: this week. Um. The other thing is, though you know, 306 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: voters don't know a whole lot about Iran. One of 307 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: my colleagues at Morning Consul this week publishes this really 308 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: interesting story looking at if voters can find Iran on 309 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: the map, and it was less some three and tin 310 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: voters could pinpoint Iron on a map of the Middle East, 311 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: got even smaller when they saw a map of the 312 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: whole world. And a lot of Americans learned of Cosam 313 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: Solomoni for the first time on Sunday night. Yeah, this 314 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: is not a well known character across this and so 315 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: when the President speaking in Toledo, Ohio, and he doubled 316 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: down his supporters last night, particularly about that. So I 317 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: think Americans, what I'm hearing from you, Americans are still 318 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: sorting through all of this and processing this in their 319 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: minds before making up an opinion. Yeah. I think most 320 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: Republicans were on board this. Democrats were against it. Obviously. 321 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: That's what we've seen throughout the Trump alright, not the politics. 322 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Market reaction. Yeah, And I was gonna say the interesting thing, right, 323 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: but the interesting thing is you saw not much of 324 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: a market reaction. And this is he called the markets 325 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: and a part to what Mark is talking about, which 326 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: is we don't have this this energy complexity anymore that 327 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: we used to have. But also even with the Democrat 328 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: House of Representatives saying they're going to vote to restrict 329 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: the war powers the president has, they're still market That 330 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: happened last night, but they're still is in market anxiety 331 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: about that, which I find to be very very interesting 332 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: that it's never going to go. Why are we a 333 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: country that's becoming nerd to the thought of war. I 334 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I think they we're gonna find out pretty soon. 335 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: All Right, that's a great point. And again that vote. 336 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: The House, Democrat controlled House passed it just a couple 337 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: of hours before the President started speaking in Toledo. Coming up, 338 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: we could talk more policy and politics with our panel. 339 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Job to day, folks, Maddie Doubler is gonna weigh in 340 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: on that. I'm Kevin Sireli. You're listening to Bloomberg. This 341 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and 342 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven m h D two. Happy Friday, folks. 343 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 344 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Maddie Doppler's here, Mark Ross, Eli Jakali. Guys, 345 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like close to seventy degrees and Sonny 346 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC tomorrow. It's so, what are you gonna 347 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: do with Lila, your newborn? Um, Just go outside and 348 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: enjoy the weather. You know, I'm from Wisconsin, so like 349 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: when you get nice weather in January, you take advantage 350 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: of it, and you're gonna be rooting for the Green 351 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. For the Packers Goalpa goal. I think that 352 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm also rooting for the Green Bay Packers a right 353 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: because welcome to board, CAB. I'm still dismayed that the 354 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: league has not penalized Seattle for what was such an 355 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: egregious play, so unethical, so awful songe creep your revenge 356 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: on on he who must not be named, and just 357 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,959 Speaker 1: target him and just it's awful. League. The league should 358 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: have at least issue to fine. That's all I'm gonna say. Um, Okay, 359 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: let's talk about who are you rooting for. I'm rooting 360 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. My good friend Sarah is a 361 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: huge fan season to get holder. I do want to 362 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: let her down. She's obsessed. Alright, I'm on the bandwagon. Alright, 363 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, you might say to lives in Baltimore. So 364 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: I'm gonna root for them connection any like, I'm just 365 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: standing with the chiefs man, okay, and any big plans. 366 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Who's doing something fun. I'm gonna do some gardening tomorrow 367 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: because I'm anna January, but it feels like spring. I've 368 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: got to clean out my garden early to be gardening, right, 369 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to clean out some stuff. I don't have 370 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: a green thumb. I kill everything that is in anyway. 371 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: Jobs day missing the mark hundred of forty five correct 372 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: thousand jobs added to the U S economy in the 373 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: month of September December December, Kevin, I swear I'm awake 374 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: December hundred forty thousand jobs added in December, the least 375 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: since May, after a downwardly revised two hundred and fifty 376 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: six thousand advanced the prior month, according to the Labor 377 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Department that was released earlier today. We've got Larry Condo, 378 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: the President's chief economic advisor. He spoke with my buddy 379 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan Barrow on Bloomberg Television earlier today. Take a listen 380 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: to Condo. Rising stock market is in the aiding a 381 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of business and consumer confidence, in my judgment, and 382 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: I think it's forecasting essentially an even stronger economy in 383 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: the coming year. Okay, all right, So, as you mentioned, 384 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: a little soft on the number for the month in 385 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: December forty five, expectation was one sixty. But since this 386 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: is our last read for twenty nineteen, we can now 387 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: look at the entire year and see how we did 388 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: on the job's landscape. But a hundred seventy six thousand 389 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: jobs now is the average for each month in nineteen. 390 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: That is pretty darn good. In fact, that is ten 391 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: years that we've seen jobs expand we've seen payrolls rise, 392 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: which is unheard of since we started taking this data 393 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: eighty years ago. So, you know, we talk about when 394 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: you hear from Larry Carlow talking about how he's optimistic 395 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: for the future, there's a lot of discussion about whether 396 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: or not the expansion has legs and how long it 397 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: will continue. What we know, at least from the consumer 398 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: side and from the employment side that things look pretty 399 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: robust here and now. The one thing that always gets 400 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: a lot of attention every month is the wage number. 401 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Are people earning more money for the work that they're doing. 402 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: They are, but that number did come in a little 403 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: bit under where it was last the previous month. Came 404 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: in at two point nine percent from the previous December 405 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: on that reading, Now, what that means is that people 406 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: still have experienced a pay raise that is rising above 407 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: the rate of inflation. So that's good. But the we 408 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier how the FED has been kind of the 409 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: thorn in the side of the market and some policymakers 410 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: have been watching when it comes to economic policy for 411 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: the past year, and the question is what is causing 412 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: this softness in wages if in fact we have a 413 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: an employment market that is so fiery hot. Well, there's 414 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: a couple of different reasons that that could be happening. 415 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: One I think is a very interesting perspective. Now, some 416 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: good news in the jobs report on December was that 417 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: for the first time in ten years, more women are 418 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: working than men fifty Yeah, so the first time, for 419 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: the first time ten years, in ten years, in ten years, 420 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: ten years, there are more women working than men. Now. 421 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: The reason I prop the women beat out men by 422 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: a hundred nine thousand jobs um, which you know is 423 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: enough to edge out that first spot. But the reason 424 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I bring it up in the conversation about wages is 425 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: the demographics of who is working is partially why we're 426 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: still seeing a little bit of that softness in wages, 427 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: because it's a different demographic of who's in the workforce. Now, 428 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: there are other questions too about what's going on in 429 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: the workforce that would potentially result in wages not rising 430 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: as quickly as we would expect. I mean technology, when 431 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: you make a widget, it's less expensive to make. So 432 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: here's why I think it's still a good day for Trump. 433 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: A It's still very good number jobs above the rate 434 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: of what we need for population growth. Um wages in themselves, 435 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: real wages are still rising, So Americans are feeling better off, 436 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: and that's the most important part when they're voting. But lastly, 437 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: even if there is the softness in the wage number, 438 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: what that actually means it is probably higher profits for companies. 439 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: What does that show up in It shows up in 440 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: earnings and where does that make a difference in the 441 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: stock market? And we know how the president feels about 442 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: the stock mark, right And if that wasn't enough, if 443 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: you're looking at these numbers, you still really haven't seen 444 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: too much of a tariff drag in terms of tariffs 445 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: impacting I'm seeing you not but it's not it's not 446 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: a pronounced I know the business community. If you're in 447 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: your car, you're going to pull over and slam on 448 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: your brakes that I just said that don't drive safe, 449 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: But meaning it's not, it's not as much of a 450 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: hinder or explicit of a hinder in the jobs. Well, 451 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: and this is the challenge with those of us who 452 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: think tariffs are a poorer public policy tool, which is that, 453 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: of course you're not going to have the economic data 454 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: telling you that tariffs destroyed what is a very strong economy. However, 455 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: you kind of get me manufacturing where we lost jobs, 456 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: which is also another reason why we see fewer men 457 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: and more women in the workforce. Very interesting, all right, 458 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: speaking of tariffs, Mark Cross next week January Vice Premier. Yes, 459 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: January fifte Wednesday, we're expecting two hundred plus folks to 460 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: join two. Yes. The White House is rolling out the 461 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: red carpet not only for the Chinese delegation, but also 462 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: other members of the business community, trade associations. They're making 463 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: this a big deal. Um. I'm not going um yet yet. 464 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: Who knows I will get invited? Um. What's interesting though, 465 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: nobody is yet to see the text of the Phase 466 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: one deal. But let's not that hold us back. Uh, 467 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: this is a positive development, I think with these jobs numbers, 468 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: when I'm also looking at in the next few weeks, 469 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: you've got this big deal, the Phase one Keeping with 470 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: keeping with this for a minute, because we've we've covered 471 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: this every twist and turn of the US China Phase 472 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: one trade deal. Why is the President she coming? I mean, 473 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: why why not have the Trump She handshake photo op? Why? 474 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean that that's why because it's not a I mean, 475 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: in proper paralleance, it's not a proper trade deal. This 476 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: is essentially approval, doesn't congressional. This is one which would 477 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: indicate that it could be derailed at any time. This 478 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: is like classic dollar diplomacy by the Chinese. I mean, 479 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: all they're really promising is to buy more goods and 480 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: services from the US. I don't be cynical about it. 481 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: It is positive. We've like stopped, if you will, kind 482 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: of the negative US China, there's nobody's seen the text, 483 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: there's no exactly has essentially pursued this same approach with Japan. 484 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: With Korea, that's kind of administrative agreement that really is 485 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: more of understanding of how the trade relationship is going 486 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: to work. Um So, in that sense we have a 487 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: template for it working. But like Mark, you're right, like, 488 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: what what does it all mean in the long term 489 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: if we don't have something written, Well, what I'm looking 490 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: for is enforcement, Mark, what are you look at? The 491 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: Chinese also don't want to put on paper you know, hey, 492 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna buy x amount of goods. Because they also 493 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: have trading partners in Brazil and Europe. There, they're also 494 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: like what for me, the biggest thing to look for 495 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: is enforcement. How will it be in force? What's the 496 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: biggest thing for you to look for. I just think 497 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: it's we've just stopped kind of the degregational relationship. I 498 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: think we're gonna see more positive What are you gonna 499 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: look for in the deal? To me, it's not really 500 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: a deal. I mean, it's just like we're stopping phase two. 501 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: How So we're talking about the economy, Eli Yoakley, Morning 502 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: consult Reporter, how and we're talking about China. How is 503 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: How are Americans responding to that? How are voters responding 504 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: to that? Consumer confidence indicators suggest that there's still a 505 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: lot of confidence in the economy. But how is this 506 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: resonating at all? Is it's resonating with the Marcus? Is 507 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: it resonating with voters? We've seen consumer confidence drop a 508 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: little bit. But the big thing I'm looking at is 509 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: this question of Trump's approval. I mean, that's what matters 510 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the day on this. And in 511 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: December Donald Trump had his best net approval of two 512 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Even the mid all of this impeachment stuff. 513 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: He saw games in places like Maine and Iowa. He 514 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: did not fall in places like Michigan. This things are 515 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: looking good for him on the better for him on 516 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: the improvement front than they were before the beach but 517 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: started made is so interesting with the trade. Next is 518 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: there on lobsters and how crucial that is to their industry. 519 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: But also just like you know, may not really a 520 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: stalwart Republican state, but up state Maine is, and you 521 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: get there's that nuance alright coming up? What's on the 522 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: panel's radar? Oprah ways in on the Megan Markle Prince 523 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: Harry saga. I'm obsessed with the story and I'm telling you, folks, 524 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: it's better than the Crown. You can't make this up. 525 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: Netflix is probably rushing a new series just off of 526 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: this week alone by the Royal Family, completely upending in 527 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the Queen's all matter. This is I'm just anyway, Panel 528 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: stays I'll stay. Download the Boomberg Sound on podcast on 529 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes, a Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the 530 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. You can also find us on radio 531 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: dot com, I Heart Radio and Scotify. My name is 532 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Crelli on the Chief Washington Course monit for Bloomberg 533 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: Television and Radio. And you're listening to Bloomberg. Well, this 534 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg and 535 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven f m h D two. 536 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: Mary N. Williamson has dropped out of the Democratic presidential contest. 537 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: She's a friend of Bloomberg's Sound On program. She says, quote, 538 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: the primaries might be tightly contested among the top contenders, 539 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: and I don't want to get in the way of 540 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: a progressive candidate winning any of them. She went on 541 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: to say, we will not be able to garner enough 542 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: votes in the election to elevate our conversation anymore than 543 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: it is now Again, folks, author and spiritual guru Mary 544 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: and Williamson has ended her presidential campaign of Kevin Sireli, 545 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. Mattie 546 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: Doubler's here, Mark Ross and Eli Yoakley. It's time now 547 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: for what's on the panel's radar? Mattie, what's on your all? Right? Well, 548 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to tease a little bit of research I'm 549 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: doing about young people and their sentiments when it comes 550 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: to the economy. And this is going to how do 551 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: you define young people? Well, so I focus. So I 552 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: am guilty of focusing on millennials, but only because I am. 553 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm a medium millennial. If you're one of the people 554 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: born alright, so under the age of what so under 555 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: the don't make me do math now, yeah, thirty, I 556 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm here. Now you're gonna out me. I'm 557 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: thirty two, I'm medium millennial. Okay, I'll give you that, 558 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: um And I don't want to out anyone. So so 559 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: many personal things come up in the show for me, 560 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: havin So Anyways, when you look at millennials and kind 561 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: of their coming of age experience in their their own 562 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: like financial maturity, it was all during the Great Recession, 563 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: So you see a lot of shade being through at millennials, 564 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: and for good reason. But mostly this talk of how 565 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: they don't measure up to other generations, I think is 566 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: trash because we live in a different time, you know, Matt. 567 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: Now millennials can invest on their smartphones easier than they 568 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: can buy a house, yet they're still maligned for not 569 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: investing their life savings and an asset that might not 570 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: appreciate for them. So doing some research on that, I 571 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: think it's really interesting. Has a lot to do too. 572 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: I think with why this wage question isn't budging and 573 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: hope to have more answers to come out. We'll see. 574 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait. That's fascinating. I think. I think the 575 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: investment of retirement savings crisis in this country is one 576 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: of the financial sector financial reportings, biggest contribution that the 577 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: financial press is made. It's just it's it's alarming how 578 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: many people don't say for retirement anything. Yeah, and I 579 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: think that would be financially fit, and you've got to 580 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: be physically fit. That's that's the spiritually fit and that 581 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: which is why we just had that moment of pause 582 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: for Marianne. But I think they should teach that youth 583 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: financial literacy schools. Mark Rubio a Republican from Florida. He 584 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: has a bill called no Before you Go that really 585 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: allows I'm fortunate because I had an amazing English teacher 586 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: who was also my guidance counselor, Richard Roper, and he 587 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: was really my first fiduciary. Yeah. You think of these 588 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: kids all around the country when they're in their guidance 589 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: counselor's office. Who is your first financial fiduciary. It's your 590 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: guidance counselor make the first decision that you're making in 591 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: terms of debt and everything is your your college advisor, 592 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: and it informed. Having an inforimned financial perspective has cascading effects. 593 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the number of people who think that we 594 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: could just like fund the military if we tax every 595 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: millionaire one more cent is silly. Like we need to 596 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: have a greater global perspective, and there's that. It's not political. 597 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: It's not political. I'm saying from a mathematics part. It 598 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: was a mathematics question of yesteryear. And now you're all right, 599 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: no good stuff. I can't wait to see your research. 600 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: What's on your radar? I'm looking for what's next to 601 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic presidential race coming up next week, the first 602 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: one of the year. I'm so far this race has 603 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: been pretty solid. Not a whole lot of movement nationally. 604 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: We've seen some upticks for some candidates and some of 605 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: the early states and some weeks um just this week, 606 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: we actually put out we're starting to track each week 607 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: head to heads at Morning Council, seeing how each of 608 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: these candidates performing against s Donald Trump. And the person 609 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: who led this week was Joe Biden. He at the 610 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: biggest advantage compared to anybody against stald Trump going into 611 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: this election cycle really has that electribild the argument outside. 612 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: And last night in that rally in Ohio, President Trump 613 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: said that he's gonna have people channing where's Hunter if 614 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: he's the nominating So fascinating. You know, those stories really 615 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: didn't break through last year. We'll see if I'm sure 616 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: this year Donald Trump will try to make a bigger 617 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: deal out of him. All right, what's on your radar? Mark? Well? Globalization, 618 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: as you know, I love to talk about that and 619 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: focus on that. Next week, the EU Trade Chief Phil 620 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Hogan will be in DC for three days. So in 621 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: addition to the Chinese delegation coming over, we also have 622 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: a senior representatives from the European Union going to be 623 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: in town. What are they gonna talk about. We're gonna 624 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: talk about trade, economic development, getting the economy going forward. 625 00:32:54,240 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: In come up all positive? This is your positivity, your positivity, 626 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I would hope, But there's just so this comes from 627 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: the terror threat that the administration is issue that tax 628 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: on European wine and excuse me on French because the 629 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: French have decided they're going to at tax American tech 630 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: companies into a blo this. This is fascinating to me. 631 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: Where you've got this tax scandal that has erupted because 632 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: France Amalia on the CRAL decided that he was going 633 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: to go after he was going to go after Silicon 634 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: valid and Kevin. This is part of a broader So 635 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 1: the President Trump goes, Okay, you're coming after the Crown Jewels. 636 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: Is Larry cut Look as he goes, going after your 637 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: Crown Jewels? Right? Your wine? Right? And now wine is 638 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: more expensive and there's a tax on the other not Yeah, 639 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: but it'll be problematic, not just for importers of foreign 640 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: wine for the kind of ridiculous system that we have 641 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: here for distributing wine, will be a big promp for 642 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: domestic producers as well. But this comes as other O 643 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: E C D companies countries are contemplating the same thing. 644 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: They want to tax American tech companies, and they have 645 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: been very cavigory about this. They're not saying, oh, it's 646 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: just a corporate tech No, They're saying that they want 647 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: to tax tax tech companies and they want it to 648 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: be the American tech companies who take it on the head. 649 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: The President is right to stand up to them, the 650 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: teriff approach maybe not one that is as well. From question. 651 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: Next week is going to be obviously a dominant news 652 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: story because you've got the debate with China, uh Europe 653 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: and the course impeachment trial could start. But I mean, 654 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: the only story that has kept me glued to my phone. 655 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I'm obviously kidding, but my sides show story 656 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: that I when I go home after work that I'm 657 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: obsessed with is megsit. My whole family back home in Deelco. 658 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: They can't. We're all detection about what the heck is Oprah? 659 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: Now involved? Is your family text? Yes, there are there 660 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: are memes. Yes, Mama Sa really Chicky really is very 661 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: much up in arms over this, and we're divided, you know, 662 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: in terms of this. I'm gonna read from page six 663 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's an appropriate source for this. 664 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: Page six reports. Prince Harry and Megan Markle's close friend 665 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey has said she supports their decision to step 666 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: down as senior royals. The TV queen, who attended the 667 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: royal couple's wedding and is close to Megan's mother, said 668 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: in a statement, quote, I care about them both and 669 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: support whatever decision they make as a family. But see 670 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: the other reporting who's following this year it because this 671 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: is a big deal from an economic stamp. Why talk 672 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: about the economic component just the just the click advertising 673 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: alone for the Daily Mail. It's gonna deeper than as 674 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: well as you know t cozies and other kind of 675 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: memorabilia when you buy when you go to London. But 676 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: there's also rumors that the royal family, the Sausagees have 677 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 1: police trademarks on a hundred different irons, pencils, socks. They've 678 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: launched this website all under darkness that nobody is wait. 679 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: So they're gonna set up a foundation what they say, 680 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: and then the Queen says that they're going to take 681 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: their time on this and they put out a statement 682 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: the Royal Family and quote discussions with the Duke, The 683 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: Duke and Duchess of Sussex are at an early stage. 684 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: We understand their desire to take a different approach, but 685 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: these are complicated issues that will take time to work through. 686 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: So what they want to do is set up a 687 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: foundation allow of the Clinton Foundation, and they want to 688 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: seriously and they want to be able to solicit donations 689 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: in Canada and trademark their name. I mean, Eli, your 690 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: eyes are popping out of your head. I mean seriously, 691 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: like this is a true question, a quick question. Are 692 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: they going to be selling access to the royal family? 693 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: I think we'll yet to learn that. I thought it 694 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: was amazing the queens, the statement from the royal family. 695 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: That was a fierce sake. I can't wait to see 696 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Donald trump away on this chance. He said he did wait, 697 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: and I know he's like his respect for the queen. 698 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: He's someone embarrassed by the actions. He felt like Dave 699 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: stepped out of mount I'm not here that comes up 700 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: today said they stepped all right, Gosh, I missed this. 701 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: See Mark, thank you for being as as where's Joe 702 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: Biden on this? That's the real question. But I think 703 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: it really begs the question of again a member of 704 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: a powerful family breaking away or wanting to break away? 705 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: Can you sell access to your It's fascinating, It's a 706 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: sign of the times. Thank you for listening. Mattie Douppler, 707 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: thanks for being here, Mark Ross, thanks for being here. 708 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: Eli Yoakley, and of course I hope Lila was listening. 709 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: That's really you're listening to Bloomberg,