WEBVTT - “The Manning 7” with Peyton Manning | 2013 Season Opener: Broncos vs. Ravens 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:08.880 Thursday, September fifth, twenty thirteen, Sports Authority Field at Mile High, Denver, Colorado. 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:15.000 Lightning might not strike the same place twice, but Peyton 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:21.360 Manning can strike the enzone seven times. This is the 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.000 Manning Seven. I don't know what that voice was, but 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:29.680 I love it. That was amazing, The Manning seven. Hello, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.200 and welcome to Games with Names presented by win Bet. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.000 I'm Sam Morrel and I'm Julian Edelman, and we are 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.360 on a mission, a search, a journey to find the 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:45.199 greatest sports games of all time. In today's episode, the 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.520 Baltimore Ravens versus the Denver Broncos on the NFL Kickoff 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:54.400 Week one, twenty thirteen, we got Peyton Manning. On today, 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.040 we got the sheriff. That's a big get. We got 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.680 my second favorite Manning in the world. Secondly, my second 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.800 favorite also, I guess actually I might even put him third. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:10.119 I might go Archie. Damn Archie. My dad loved Archie. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:13.479 Archie hasn't come on the show. No, he hasn't give paid. 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.000 But Archie didn't also knock Archie didn't knock me out 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.080 of it. Two ABC Championships, fair enough, you know that's 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:21.960 but he but he gave birth to someone who did. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.560 He he did, didn't give birth. That's not how bad 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.640 I'm stupid. It was his seed, it was the seed though, 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.640 it was his seed. But in Hin's site, you know, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:38.319 Peyton Maning, he did take Wes Welker. That gave him 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.560 my opportunity. That opened things up for you, open things, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.080 open things up. First thought, when you think of this game, 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.720 I think Peydon Manning through seven freaking touchdowns in a 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.320 game that's insane, and this set him off to set 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.240 the pace for him to break the single season touchdown 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:58.680 record fifty five fifty five. I mean, after watching this 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:04.000 game and seeing the weapons that Peyton Maning had, Julius 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:09.560 Thomas Wes Welker with his new edition that offseason, you 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.320 know you have Damerius Thomas Eric Decker, who's just like 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.040 have you ever seen Eric Decker? Oh yeah, he's like 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:21.240 so good looking, he's hot, dude's and he's a wonderful father. Yeah, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:22.960 he's a rad dack. He's a hand pull up a 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.600 picture of Eric Decker. Yeah, dude, you get lost in 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.520 his eyes. I mean he's tall, he's dark, he's handsome, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.400 he's got a receding hairline. He makes it look good. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:36.079 Look at him, Jesus, I like you threw a little 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.600 nag though at the end. He's handsome, he's baldingbody pulls 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.320 it off. He's my boy. He's my boy. He's a 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.600 handsome guy. You're a handsome guy, Julian And I like 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.520 that though. Jeez. I don't know, dude, God God worked 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.040 when he made that one. But back to our reactions, 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:58.240 Uh yeah, when when you got those kind of weapons? Moreno, God, Well, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.400 where do you rank this offense all time? I mean 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.640 Peyton had Edrin, James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie, Wayne, Brandon, Stokely, 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.880 Dallas Clark on that Colts team? Where do you rank 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:14.320 this all time? I mean the Brady twenty two thousand 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.639 and seven, twenty eighteen to one. I mean, you got 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.359 some of these chief teams that everyone keeps putting up there. 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.680 I mean it's hard because you got you got some 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:28.520 really good offenses out there. And yeah, they did fifty 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:32.440 five touchdowns. Did they win the Super Bowl this year? 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:36.800 They did not? I don't know. I don't know, but 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.480 let's just go back. I don't want to talk. We'll 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.400 leave that for the close after we hear from Peyton himself. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.600 Let's go to Let's go to September fifth, twenty thirteen. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.600 Number one movie, Lee Daniels The Butler. Did you see 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.200 that one? I think? I think I did you know 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.880 this was a Weinstein production movie. I did not see 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.320 that movie. Well, this is it's weird say that movie. 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.600 But I will not cancel this anti cancel whatever. Well 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.880 that season in jail, it's different. That's different than anthe 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.520 We are an anti cancel podcast, but Weinstein's an exception. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.240 You know, it's weird that it's a Weinstein production and 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.520 it's like a delicate film on race. It's it's literally 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.560 like if you did Jeffrey Epstein presents the Elliott Page 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.000 story or something like what are we doing? Weinstein's come on? 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.520 Oh sorry, go ahead? Number one song Blurred Lines by 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.480 Robin Think. Everyone remembers this, featuring t I and Farroh. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:32.520 Everybody's standa hey, I saw him, Emily Woodage kowski Ite, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.599 Oh my, yeah, they're on the map. Yeah, that put 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.400 her on the map. That put her on the map. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.720 I just walked by and I saw him. She was 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.719 on what Chanel? Is she doing? Chanel? Now she're doing? 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.000 Is she doing Chanel. We'll get that from Jackie at 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.640 the end. But yeah, that song, it was a it 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.440 was a hitter in thirteen. It was. It's tough because 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.719 it's as date rapey as they come. But man, is 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:57.719 the beat good? Right? It really? It really tested you 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.760 know you want it? Like do you? I don't know? 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:05.960 Oh I got it. This is also the year the 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.080 world the word selfie. Oh my god, this is the year. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.919 Is this the year? What do we do? Because you 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.760 didn't do it. Before you did that, it wasn't a selfie. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.240 You were just a sad person. Like if you did 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.599 it on like a disposable camera, you were a psycho. Yeah, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.000 it was. It definitely changed probably rout around this time. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.240 I remember I meet you ever heard the selfie kid? No, 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.480 he's I met him at like the Grammys or something, 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.320 and like he was notoriously known for like taking selfies 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.440 with people. And I do remember this a little Yeah, yeah, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.280 they're looking at this guy. Yeah we took a selfie. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.280 Oh me and j T. Whoa, that's like that's a 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.359 good gimmick. In twenty fourteen, now it's like you're third's 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.680 the thing and everyone does it. Thirteen You ever have 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.200 someone trying to take a picture with you, and they 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.040 don't do a selfie. They're like hand it to Somebody're like, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.800 what are you doing? When I came in another thirty 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.000 seconds to this interaction, I I just take the picure. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.919 Sure you got the phone. It's honestly more personal now, Like, 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.840 wouldn't you rather do a selfie? Like, hey, we were 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.920 close enough to take a selfie? Like, that's what I do. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.800 If I'm gonna ask someone for a picture, I'm going selfie. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.400 It's twenty twenty two. You flip up, you hit the 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.919 little button, and we're wam bam. You Just to let 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.320 everyone know, you can press on an iPhone the bottom 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.400 of the left too, and it'll snap the photo. You 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.120 don't have to bring your other hand in to do it. 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.559 You can snap it with your other the left side. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.000 Oh yeah, who doesn't know that? Everyone should know that. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.560 I see it all the time. Also, you can tell 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.480 if someone's a little arrogant though, if they if they 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.000 swipe up for the photo and it's already on them. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.719 You're like, you're sending selfie if it's not the other way. Yeah, 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:45.520 I never thought about that. They looked into that. What else, Mom, jeans, Mom, 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:48.320 jeans are cool? Is that the high cut? Is that 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.599 the high cut? That was like the eighties jeans, the comfy. Yeah, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.719 they had the high up up here. They're coming back 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.920 to that. They haven't left, They never left. I see 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.239 him all the time. Mariano pitched in his final game. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.080 You know what I will say about the Red Sox fans, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.800 It really kind of surprised me. They gave him a 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.440 standing now. I remember they gave him a standing out 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.040 and I was like, Wow, the Red Sox fans didn't 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:19.000 expect that. Hey, Man Revere Rivera, Geez Mariano Rivera, Rivera, Rivera, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:25.000 Mario Mariano Rivera, Mario Mariano Rivera. You nailed it. Met 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.040 my guy a thousand times too. I apologize. We actually 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.240 had a play name him a thousand times and that's 0:07:30.280 --> 0:07:32.360 how he said his name. Ah, like twice, but it 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.200 sounded better one thousand. Yeah. Uh. We had a play 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.360 that was named after him because you ran a stopper 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:43.120 on the outside and he was the ultimate stopper or closer. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.440 The Patriots had to play named after a Yankees great. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.360 Yeah we did. I mean he was he was a great, 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.920 all time great. He gotta you gotta tip your hat 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.040 to people that have that. He would come in the 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.200 game you play, they play Enter Sandman and you would 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:00.720 get chills. You knew the game was over. Just the greatest. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.960 What about this Snowden? Remember Edward Snowden And I say 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.320 the Yeah, that was huge. Movies about the documentary? Uh 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:15.160 they podcast? Docusees he's still in Russia. Le's he? Now, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.600 I don't know if he had to seek asylum he 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.720 we we got to find that out. But he's definitely 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:27.160 probably if he's in Russia. Probably not a good time 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.000 to be in Russia. Well, he his woman stayed by him. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.880 This woman like she went to Russia with him. Now, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:34.520 I don't I couldn't get a movement to move to 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.080 New York. He got a woman to Russia? Are you 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:42.360 kidding me? He's a closer. He's a closer. He's Mariana. Now, uh, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.520 when you like, does he have to like be a 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.040 does he have to be scared of his life in Russia? 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.559 For his life like there was the Russian government working 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.880 with him? Maybe or how does that work? I think 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.120 as long as the US government hates and prudence like 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:59.360 keep him around. Yeah, I'd still be scared. I'd still 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.960 be scared. I want to live there. What we got Jackie? Yeah, 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.160 it looks like he's been granted permanent residency in Russia 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.240 as of twenty twenty. Permanent rut. That's how you get 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.880 citizenship in Russia. You just piss off our government. That's 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:17.760 how you do it. Jeez, what were you doing? What 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.960 was thirteen thirteen? It was it thirteen? This was fourteen thirteen. 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.440 What was I doing? I had just come off I 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:29.040 won a comedy festival in uh Atlanta called the Laughing 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.840 Skull Festival, and that helped me. So I was on 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.400 the road like every week, playing strip mall clubs, headlining 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.360 some shithole rooms. So you want to comp I want 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.679 to camp. There was a lot of there were a 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.240 lot of comedians in it, and I shouldn't have won, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.120 is the truth? I I that's a true, that's a true, 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.800 that's a true champion, right? It was. They gave it 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.360 to me because I was younger than the other guy. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.000 This other guy, Tom Simmons, super funny comic, had a 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:56.600 better I did really well every round to get there, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:58.240 but in the final round I think he had a 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.959 better set than me. But they gave it to him. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.640 But it's kind of like chopped though. You know, you 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.000 have your your appetizer, you have your your maine, and 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.280 your dessert. If the guy that wins the dessert in 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.040 the final two didn't win the appetizer or the main 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.280 but got them over there, are you a chopped head? 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.040 I like Child. I love Child. I used to love 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.040 I used to watch it a lot more. I'm more 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.040 of a guy Fierti grocery games guy. Now that's a 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.680 good one too. I love the Food Network. There's something 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.880 weirdly comforting about watching all these chefs have had like 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.360 tortured lives too. They're like artists. They're like they all 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:31.120 used to be in like gangs and shit. You see 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.800 them like tat it up. Yeah. I have got a 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.320 lot of chef buddies. Let's just say they know at 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.080 a party, they oh they, I mean, they go as 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:41.800 hard as anybody. They they are maniacs because you can 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.079 get fucked up while you're cooking. You can, right, well 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.160 they I asked them that, and they go, well, when 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:51.440 you're in this lifestyle, you're always entertaining people, You're always 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.559 you know, having to cook, and when you're cooking afterwards 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.360 you're drinking and then you know, one thing leads to another. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.880 I don't know that's what you see them these like 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.120 I think there was this guy, Irone Sanchez, you know, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:04.800 he's like one of the main guy and it was like, yeah, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.719 cooking saved me from going down the wrong path. And 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.280 I'm like, what fucking gang were you in? Would they 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.760 let you walk off to pursue the culinary arts? Is that? 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:13.800 Is that a normal thing? Are they that supportive? He 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.800 had to get jumped out? Probably he had. He probably 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.640 just cooked him a meal. If you think about these 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.559 tacos were so good. We're giving you a second chance 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:25.400 at life. That's who you get. Let's get in these teams. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.319 Twenty thirteen Broncos thirteen and three. I believe one of 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.280 those losses was to us when we came back from 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.880 a twenty four to zero deficit at halftime in the 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.719 Fox Did they knock you out of the playoffs? Yeah, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.160 they knocked you out of the plaoffs. So in the 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.480 FC Championship they were first in the AFC West coach 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.839 by John Fox, big player coach. I heard heard, uh, 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.840 he used to have a lot of fun. Big wins. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:52.760 Week one against Baltimore, the defending Super Bowl Champions thirteen 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:59.839 against the Chiefs. Names clearly Peyton Manning, Damarius Thomas, my dog, 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:07.680 Julius Thomas, Wes Welker, Eric Decker, Von Miller and Chris 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.880 Harris Weet super Bowl MVP and von Miller too. Von Miller, yeah, stud. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.520 And then he just got another. He got another Super 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.679 Bowl this last season. He's like thirty five and he's 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.000 just got like another on hundred million dollar deal. I 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.840 played the wrong position. God did not touch me enough 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.640 to be big enough, fast enough, strong enough to tackle 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.920 quarterbacks for a living. God should have touched you more. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.839 You should have God should have molested you, dude. You 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.200 would have been awesome. They were knocked out of the 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:40.640 divisional round by the defender, by the Super Bowl Champions AFC. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:45.679 Or they were knocked out in the twenty twelve divisional 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:50.560 round by the Ravens in two overtimes at Mile High. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.560 It was a little revenge game here, the little revenge game. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.360 And this was revenge. I mean paydon just torch them 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.199 five touchdowns in the second half. And to give some contexts, 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.640 you know, Peyton, he was out from the Colts, had 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.960 a severe neck injury comes back his first year with Denver, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.440 new team still has to get used to, you know, 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.600 being a new environment. He was he was a god 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.280 in Indianapolis for a long time. Falls short. They get 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.200 a couple key additions the next year, and that's when 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:26.360 this year started. In the twenty thirteen NFL kickoff against 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.440 the Ravens, let's get over to the Ravens, who we 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.719 got defending Super Bowl champs. They beat the forty nine 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.320 ers in the Horrorball Bowl. I mean that was the 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:41.080 Harball the Harbawl. Joe Flacco man, remember blacked out there. Yeah, dude, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:42.920 we were like, I was, I remember this because we 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:47.439 went that was Beyonce, right, that was a Beyonce. It 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.960 could have been Beyonce. But I just remember the Niners 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:56.960 went to the Super Bowl and with Cap and uh 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:59.920 we lost in the AFC Championship. And I was getting 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.440 so many calls from all my Niners friends like if 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.800 we go, if we go, if you guys go and 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.400 the Niners go, you got to hook me up. And 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:12.200 you know we didn't go, So damn coach by John Harball. Yeah, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:16.800 big Wing, Big wins Week ten Ver Cincinnati Notable Losses 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.800 Week sixteen versus New England, and that was a huge 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:23.640 win on the road in Baltimore, hostile environment, that place 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:27.720 is always hard to play. We have Joe Flacco was 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.000 on the team. Is he elite? Is he not elite? 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.600 He won two Super Bowls, got paid, won one Super Bowl? 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.400 He definitely got paid. Justin Tucker arguably one of the 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:41.400 most clutch kickers in the world. T Rice, remember ray Rice, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.720 Ray Rice was there. I remember that awful video obviously, 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.200 and I remember wanting to see it because I was like, 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.240 how horrible is this? I was just curious and I 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.520 clicked on it and there was a YouTube ad before 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.960 the videos like someone's making money off this. That's how 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.480 fucked up the world is. Hey, that's what happens when 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:05.880 you live in a capitalist society. Buddy YouTube, man YouTube 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:11.680 and Hellodi Nada. He was a beast, t Sizzle, Terrell Suggs. 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.160 But they were lacking. They were lacking old ray Lewis 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.800 and Reed. Yeah, the big two on that Big two. Yeah. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.040 This team was obviously coming off a Super Bowl win, 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.280 lost a couple of key pieces on defense with Ray 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:31.680 Lewis retiring and Edred off to Houston. H Joe Flacco. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:37.200 Joe Flacco former Colts on this team too. Dallas Clark 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.600 was a tight end and they had Brandon Stokely. Stokely, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.160 so we Paydon's former boys. This is this is kind 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.680 of that. That was that was a little probably heart 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.720 heartwarming to see those guys on the other side in 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.960 a different uniform. Well he was in a different Uni 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:54.360 Worm uniform. Things we remember from this game. I mean this, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.160 it's the seven touchdowns, it's Paydon being like, You're like, 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.720 ship Peydon is still elite, Peydon is still one of 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:04.800 the guys eyes. Yeah, Peyton came out with the booms 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.800 for you know in twenty twelve, coming off that injury, 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.200 everyone was talking about his arm strength. Comes out this year, 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.840 put in a lot of work. Was that something that 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.680 you guys were talking about in the locker room. You're like, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.840 it is Peyton does he still have it or what? No, 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:23.040 you knew you knew that with the severity of what 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.720 the injury he was dealing with, that it was going 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.320 to take him some time. Yeah, but you also know 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.800 with Peyton Manning, he's all about preparation. He's gonna get 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.640 his team in the right play and he's he's gonna 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.720 find a way to compete at a very high level, 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.120 which he did this year by setting the record fifty 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:45.200 five touchdown passes seven in a game. I mean, it's 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:49.600 pretty mind bottling to hear these stats, say, mind bottling, Yeah, 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.320 because I have to bottle up all my thoughts after 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.080 thinking to be Jack to that one. It's boggling for sure. No, 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:59.440 it's bottling. I'm bottling all my thoughts up because I 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.960 have so many thoughts I have to bottle them for 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.600 you know what I'm thinking about Peyton Manning over here 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.200 beating us in the the AFC Championship, you know, for 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.520 you know, the first of two consecutive check Can we 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.800 get a check on that? We'll accept it? Except, okay, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.840 I stand corrected. This is a statement game to start 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.919 the season. What are some things that we've forgotten? You know, 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.800 the lightning delay to start the game, the Ravens having 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:30.560 a Joe Flacco banner in Mile High Stadium. Why are 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.800 they in? It's so weird. So that they had to 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:37.120 play because of the Baltimore Orioles having a home game 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.760 on this date, there was some mix up. They share 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.639 a parking lot, so the Ravens had to play in 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:48.040 Denver a home game. Yeah. I mean that's if I 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.840 just won a super Bowl and we got to start 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.160 the NFL season off on an away game. I would 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:53.600 have been pissed on a game that should have been 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.760 a home game. Yeah, well it shouldn't have Yeah, bullshit. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.320 And it's also that altitude focks you up in Denver, right. 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.800 I don't think it's that bad. It annoys me. I 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.480 get allergies. You're more of like a badass jew and 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.399 I'm more of like a Jewish stereotype. Yeah, you know, 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.040 I'm You're more like I can tough through, and I'm 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.920 more like, ah, my allergies are killing me. You gotta 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.560 you gotta you gotta have that David mentality bubbs David. Yeah, David, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.040 I'm already walking different just doing a podcast with you. Man, 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.560 I'm feeling the how's your neck? Are you able to 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.439 get down there? I'm working on it all right, all right? 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.280 I mean, look, I play through pain too. It's a 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:33.480 different type of pain, you know. You know, sometimes I 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.760 pap a muscle relaxer to do it. Sometimes I just 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.239 you know, say I can fucking I'm gonna do it. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.960 I can't do muscle relaxers. Why not. I don't know. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.520 I just get I don't like them, really, I don't 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:45.680 like them. You put one of those, have a couple 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.760 of glasses of whiskey, you're gonna be feeling nice, my friend. Yeah, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.840 but then you just can't you can't even move something. 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:55.000 Not my style, not my style, my style. And then 0:18:55.000 --> 0:19:01.920 we also the Elvis Dumerville off season facts gate, which 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:06.240 resulted in him leaving right Denver. Which could you imagine 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:10.399 if they had Dumerville and von Miller like going on 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.960 with these next couple of years, which I believe the 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.880 agent got fined. What are we doing? Agent? That's when 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.920 you're going to your agent? You fuck me? Yeah, because 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:21.720 you'd rather be I mean, you'd rather be on this 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.880 Denver team as a Yeah. I mean if you got 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:26.879 someone like von Miller on the other side, and you 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.919 got Peyton Manning and the weapons that they had, yeah, 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.120 I mean, that's that's a complete football team. Yeah. Let's 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:37.240 get over to the gaming corner presented by win Bet. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.560 Let's make our prop bet. What do we think? And 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.919 I think, uh, how many times can we compliment Eli 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.240 Manning while talking to Peyton is a good one I'm 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.639 an I'm an Eli Manning guy. When it comes to 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.320 you know, Manning's let's just say that Eli is the man. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.800 I'm already doing it. I'm getting warmed up. So what's 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.800 our over and under? Then? I think we can hit. 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.600 I think we could hit. So let's say five to five. 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:04.639 That's gonna be tough. You don't think we could do it. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:09.080 We're gonna find out. Will we buckle under the pressure? 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.920 Looking in the eyes of the great Peyton Manning? Oh, 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.440 can we deliver and sing the praises of his brother NonStop? 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.440 Only time will tell, We'll say we will find out 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:24.919 here on games with names presented by win Bet. But 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.119 all right, before we hear from Peyton, let's take a 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:32.480 quick little break, and now we are going to welcome 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:37.879 a man that doesn't need really any introduction. Legend of 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:44.159 the game, revolutionized the pre snap quarterback play, countless all pros, 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:50.360 countless Pro Bowls, five time MVP, five time MVP, two 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.560 time Super Bowl champ with two different teams. Pretty insane, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:58.440 Pretty crazy. We got Peyton Manning. Thank you for joining us, Bubs. Hey, Julian, 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.479 thanks for having me. Thanks for not including my record 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.720 against the Patriots. And that bio. I appreciate you leaving 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:08.399 that part out, but it's great to be on with 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.479 you guys. Peyton, I can't say anything to you. You 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.080 owned me and when you were in Denver and we're 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.840 here to talk about the Peyton seven when you opened 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:23.560 up the twenty thirteen season with seven touchdown passes against 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:27.120 the defending Super Bowl champions, which always insane to come 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.159 out firing hot like that. But I gotta open this 0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:33.520 up by just letting everybody know. If you guys can see, 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.640 Peyton texts me. I haven't talked to him. Our booker 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.760 booked us together and everything. I gotta text him thanks 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:45.680 for coming on. But he sent me a book, literally, 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.879 a book of notes of this game. And I'm sitting 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:52.560 here thinking like, is this what playing with Peyton would 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.480 have been like? Is that what it would have been like? 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.760 Just get these notes pre game on a Tuesday, going 0:21:56.760 --> 0:22:00.000 into Wednesday practice. Hey, I mean when you can't throw 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.360 very far, when you can't run it all Julian preparations 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.159 where you get an edge. So taking me back to 0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.399 twenty thirteen, it's quite some time ago. So I had 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:13.959 to do a little study in pregame scouting report if 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.000 you will. Peyden, if you think you can't throw far, 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.480 you should see me throw a football. It's pretty pathetic. 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.000 You can throw it pretty far. Well, I don't know. 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.239 I mean Jullians a quarterback as well. He probably has 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.760 the best armor in the group right now. I don't 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.320 know Peyton. I changed the receiver for a reason. Let's 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:33.119 just say that now. A lot of people don't realize, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.640 you know, when Peyton left the Colts, we were all 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.480 in fucking shock, like what's gonna happen is is he's hurt? 0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:42.600 And the fact that like a folk hero like Peyton 0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:45.720 Manny wasn't playing in a season like it was fucking 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:49.680 it was crazy. And then he goes in signs with Denver. 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.240 First year gets knocked out in the divisional round against 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.679 the defending or the Super Bowl champions of that year 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:59.160 of the Ravens, and then next year goes in gets 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.440 a couple key with Wes Welker. I have a real 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.600 quick question before we get into the game. How much 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.240 is Adam Gates giving you for all the head coaching 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:10.320 jobs that you've got him. I have not seen any 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:16.200 residuals yet, but uh uh, Adam was great for me. Uh, yeah, Julian. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.919 It's funny. A lot of people wondered why I stayed 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:24.040 uh in the AFC after UH, you know, getting let 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:26.639 go by the Colts. You know, you're tired of play 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.280 in the Patriots in the playoffs, so you get tired 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.320 to play at Baltimore and Uh, I really feel like 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.760 that was the reason that I've stayed because I was 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.960 an AFC guy. I was familiar with those teams. Sure 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.320 we'd lost to him, but I missed the division. I 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.680 felt like to go to the UNFC, I probably would 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.160 have been out of my comfort zone. So I believe 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:49.400 it or not, the Patriots and Ravens were a big 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.080 part of probably why I chose Denver to stay in 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.840 the AFC and get into that. Now, when you signed 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.600 with Denver, did you come in with your scheme, your 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.280 system or very collaborative with that, like, hey, how do 0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:07.320 we make you comfortable? Yeah, that's a great point, great question. Uh, 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:11.920 Denver was extremely collaborative, and you know, I was coming 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.119 off an injury, so I was spending a lot of 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.920 time on my rehab. I think to learn an entirely 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:21.399 new offense. I'm matrit. An article on Kirk cousins who's learning. 0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.600 I want to say, like this third offense in the 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.560 past five years, but it's completely new offense. He said. 0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.240 He feels like an eighth grader playing tackle football for 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.320 the first time. That is not a comfortable feeling as 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:37.080 a quarterback. So for me, Denver basically took my Colt's 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.800 playbook Julian and says, Peyton, we will put in all 0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.760 the plays that you like. We'll put in your snapcout. 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.680 We'll call the formations the same way that you called 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.639 them with the Colts, but these are some plays that 0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.040 we think will be good for you at this point 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.280 in your career. We'll form a hybrid offense and that 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.720 allowed us to get off to a fast start in 0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:01.000 my first season in twenty twelve. Peyton, know, this is 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.280 like your comeback. You know, it was weird to see 0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.159 you not play for you then your back It's like 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:09.320 your Travolta pulp fiction Payton's back moment. You know, how 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.960 much pain were you? And I've had neck problems where 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:14.080 the doctor says I can't perform kind of lingus you're 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:18.359 playing football, you know, I mean, how how much pain 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:23.160 were you in week to week? Yeah? My pain really 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:27.119 started in twenty eleven, which forced me to have several 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.240 surgeries which forced me to miss the entire season. My 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.359 pain kind of went away after my surgeries. It was 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:36.520 just my strength and my weakness. You know. I had 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.399 you know, essentially nerve damage in my right arm and 0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.639 right hand, so I just couldn't function the way that 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.720 I used to and I kind of lost my grip. 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.680 I lost really my awareness of my arm in space 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:55.520 had appropriate reception issues. So listen, I've had this unbelievable 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.639 string of help my entire career, going back to high school, 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:02.280 college in the NFL. So missing that entire season was tough. 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:04.680 I mean, I remember I was in a hospital bed 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:09.000 in California watching the Colts play their opening game against 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:13.320 the Texans, Carried Collins as the quarterback, and I don't 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.200 cry a lot, but I was emotional. I cried during 0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:19.240 that game because because I wasn't out there the first 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:21.520 time I had been out there, and so that was tough. 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.280 Uh So to finally get back out of the field, 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.800 albeit with a new team, uh it was a It 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:32.320 was It was a very satisfying feeling, knowing all that 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.919 I've been through to get back to that point. It's 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:37.920 weird when you're hurt the psyche that you have as 0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:40.960 an athlete. It's kind of like you want your team 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:42.480 to do great, but you don't want them to do 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.119 too great. It's kind of like watching someone kiss your 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.720 wife or like, you know, take your wife on a date. 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.520 Some guys are in that. Some guys that's called the cuts, 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:57.520 it's called the true competitors. Yeah, I mean, I mean that. Look, 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.640 it was a it was a miserable scene and I'm injured, 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.399 I'm not playing, our team is not winning. Uh, you know, 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.640 it's it was just it was just a tough year 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:11.160 all the way around. So twenty twelve couldn't have come 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.439 sooner enough. And you know, got off to the you know, 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.000 a kind of a nude chapter with the Broncos, and 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.879 it goes to show you the competitiveness and and the 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:22.840 adversity of the ability to overcome adversity that Peyton shows 0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.280 throughout his career to literally, I mean, this guy had 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.560 a nerve thing that where he couldn't grip a football. 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.679 I've been on I've been on notice to tell everyone 0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:35.200 that I hate quarterbacks with gloves. He gets the only exception, 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.960 because you know, he could barely probably feel his arm. 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.720 But that that goes to show you the competitor was 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:45.440 stay in the conference. Fuck Brady, fuck the Ravens. We're 0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.600 gonna go out here. I know him, I'm gonna go 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.080 beat him. And that's the kind of guy Peyton Manny is. 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.720 Now you're you're jumping into week one and week one, 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.760 especially if you play in the opening night game, which 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.760 this is the opening night game for the Ravens, but 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:03.720 it took place in Mile High, which is usually kind 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.919 of weird. We saw that. No, they were trying to 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.800 make it somewhat of a home atmosphere. They had the 0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:14.160 Joe Flacco fucking banner on your guys' sideline. You guys 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.520 kind of start slow. There's a lightning storm, there's rain, 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.280 the place is probably electric because you do have the 0:28:21.280 --> 0:28:24.719 defending Super Bowl champs. But after you guys score that 0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:29.520 first touchdown and after you get the adjustments going, because 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:31.960 this is a game of adjustment, especially week one, you 0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.719 got teams that are game planning for fucking six months 0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.480 for this game. They got a whole new bunch of 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.840 things that you haven't seen on tape. There's no tape 0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.000 to study, Like when did you settle down after that 0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.680 first touchdown is when you started seeing things. You started 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.640 letting things lay out. All Right, we do this, We're 0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:51.360 gonna get that. Yeah, I mean, Julia, like you said, 0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:53.880 the beginning of the game was very strange. I mean, 0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:57.360 the fact that Joe Flacco's picture was on mild Eve 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.800 Stadium just tells you this is different, right, And you know, 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.720 going back, I mean, like I said, the Ravens had 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:08.719 beat us in a playoff game in Denver, a devastating loss. 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.880 They hit this eighty yarder with like a few seconds left. 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.080 They go on to win the super Bowl, like you said, 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:16.040 And you know, like when you win the Super Bowl, 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.040 you're supposed to play your first game at home, right, 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:20.880 I mean, that's kind of what you earned. And the 0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:25.160 Orioles didn't want to give up like a home Thursday 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:29.600 baseball game because they share a parking lot. So nice partners, 0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.880 Baltimore Orioles, And they tell the Ravens, sorry, you're gonna 0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.600 have to go on the road and play your opening 0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:39.000 game as a Super Bowl champion in Denver. So I'm 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.760 sure the Ravens weren't real happy going in. We were 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.320 motivated coming off that loss from the year before. There's 0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.480 a lot of emotion. You mentioned the rain delay. You're 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.200 all ready to play all of a sudden, go sit 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.480 in the locker room for forty five minutes. So it 0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.080 took us a while to get on track. And you know, 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.480 everybody thinks, oh, you blew the Ravens out that day. 0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.720 We were actually down seventeen to fourteen going into the half, 0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.000 but we had you had a couple of touchdowns, hit 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.080 Julius Thomas on a couple of touchdowns. We felt like 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.760 we had some momentum going into halftime, and then uh 0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.960 came out in the second half. It just uh, I 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:14.840 mean it was just hard. It was hard to miss. 0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:19.000 Guys looked wide open to me. Uh, the ravage weren't 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:23.760 missing ray Lewis. Okay, I will say that was significant, right. 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:27.960 Ray Lewis had retired the season before. Right went out 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:32.000 in style. Uh that was Look, that's a big that's 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.680 a big void, right. I felt like they were still recovering, 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:39.680 uh from that loss, and uh, uh will take advantage 0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.160 of that. Ed Reid was gone as well. Remember he 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.640 signed with the Jets, and people don't really Yeah, I 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.719 mean that's that is the Ravens at that point, So 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.280 there's no doubt we took advantage of that. I can 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.120 remember playing against the Ravens, and I bet you Peyton's 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:56.760 got these seaming exact stories and you'd line up in 0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.520 a formation in a certain down and distance and fucking 0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.280 ray Lewis is calling out the play Like that's the 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.760 kind of guy ray Lewis was. He was listening to 0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.200 everything that Peyton was saying. We all know Peyton's pre snaps, 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.360 like theatrics. He's over here, given this that, trying to 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.640 see get the defense to jump out of their disguise. 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.560 Then it becomes a chess match once you lose that 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:18.720 figure and you have a guy like Peyton Minning who's 0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.200 a fucking player coach, Like once they figure it out, 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:27.479 you knew something crazy was gonna happen. Like yeah, I mean, 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.840 I couldn't agree more. Ray Ray was a quarterback there 0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:33.400 on defense. Then you add it Ry, who never lined 0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.160 up in the same place, was gonna do things the 0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.920 opposite of what he should do just to use the quarterback. 0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.520 Although those guys weren't there, I will say that Ravens 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:48.440 defense was extremely well coached, well trained because of Ray 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.960 and Ed's presidence you know, the guys filling in for 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:57.120 them were still strong football players, were very aware, understood 0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.960 our offensive game, playing our tendency. So it wasn't like 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.560 it was a cakewalk by any means. But I will 0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.320 say I did not mind not seeing number fifty two 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.360 and number twenty in that game. In different now. You 0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.120 threw five touchdowns in the second half, that's almost more 0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.560 insane than seven in a game. Five and one half 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:18.520 sounds insane against a well trained defense, against defending Super 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.880 Bowl champion. It was we hit, like I said Thomas 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.720 a couple of times in the first half, we hit 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:30.720 Welker down there on the goal line in the red zone, 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:33.080 you know, kind of a place where Wes has sort 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.440 of made his name on these little option routes, the 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.360 same routes that Julian Rayan as well, hard to cover. 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.680 And that was my first game with Wes. Right, we'd 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.840 had offseason training head preseason, but you never really know 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.720 until you get into a game. So the fact that 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.840 he and I hooked up for two touchdowns, if his 0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.120 very first game as a Bronco, was a really good feeling. 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.520 And then I want to say, we get caught well 0:32:57.000 --> 0:32:59.160 down the left sideline and then we ended up hitting 0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.400 the Marrity Thomas on a go route on the right 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.560 and then this scrubbing My favorite play. It was a 0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.400 one yard pass by me. You know, it was a 0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:11.800 screen pass to Demarrius, but we caught the Ravens in 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.760 a blitz and look, I had thrown that wide receiver 0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.800 screen before. I had never thrown it to a six ' four, 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.320 two hundred and twenty two pound grown man and to 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:26.080 Maryus bought that ball split the same and it it was gone. 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:29.160 And he did that tid in our time together. So 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.800 that was pretty cool to witness, even though I didn't 0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.960 really do anything on that play besides the one yard pass. Yeah, 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:36.880 he says he didn't do anything, but he saw the 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.000 tendencies at the defense gave him. He knew it was 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.120 fucking blitz zero. So the best thing to do to 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:44.200 bleat beat blitz zero is throw the jailbreak screen on 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.480 the outside. It's a matchup, but we also have very 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.040 different definitions of not doing anything. I'll show you not 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.800 doing anything. I'm a lazy man, but yeah, I mean 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.840 you bring up Wes Welker. This is an interesting season. 0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:59.440 Wes comes to the Broncos you guys worked together for 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.840 a first season, and that opened up things for Julian 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.280 in New England to kind of do what West did. Ye, 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.479 So thank you, thank you Peyton. Well, I mean, I 0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:11.560 mean you're welcome. I guess, uh, I appreciate yeah, I 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:16.200 uh yeah. Playing with Wes what was fun because you 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:21.400 could tell of his knowledge, his understanding of defenses after 0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:25.640 playing with Tom playing of that sophisticated Patriots offense, so 0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:27.239 we were able to kind of pick up on a 0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.680 lot of things quickly. We sort of copied the Broncos 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:36.080 uh uh platebook when I signed Julian. We incorporated a 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.600 lot of the same routes and concepts that you guys 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:41.759 ran in New England. Hey, Wes, obviously you like this play, right, 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.400 you like Gotti right, go with an option route. We're 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.720 going to put that play in. And so that allowed 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.239 West to play fast, especially in that first game. You know, 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.640 you had so many different players and and and the 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.160 great thing about what you could do is you could 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.680 get the players in the best possible situation for their strengths. 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.640 And you saw that this whole game DT catch and 0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:06.120 run DT down the sideline, you know, Julius Thomas down 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.439 the middle west on his option routes, his pick routes 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.120 in the red area. And that's what a quarterback like 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.719 Peyton can do now after stealing Wes Welker from us, 0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.560 which thank you, I appreciate that it gave me my 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.919 opportunity along with Aaron Hernandez drama. You know, when guys 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.120 are leaving, that gives opportunity for he left for a 0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:27.640 different reason. He left for a different reason. But did 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.239 you have kind of like a like a little fist 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:32.560 pump moment when you go out and you steal Tom's 0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:34.840 favorite receiver and you give him two touchdowns in the 0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.680 first game. You know, it's funny like when you throw 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:40.800 a touchdown in the first game to a new receiver, 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.080 like you sort of think about all the things that 0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:47.160 happened prior to that. I remember being down in Miami. 0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:49.880 I was playing golf with Dan Marino of all people, 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.359 and saying, to day, I got to skip this whole 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:58.520 and I called Wes Welker and went into full college 0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.279 recruiting mode. It right, just like when I was back 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.520 at Tennessee, I felt like I had a good track 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.600 record as a recruiting host. Right, I was a pretty 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.520 good closer, and I went into that mode with Wes Welker. 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.000 It was apart five. Gave me lots of time to 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.920 give him all my cheesy pitch lines and kind of 0:36:16.080 --> 0:36:18.640 kind of sealed the deal. All of a sudden, you know, 0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.040 he becomes the Broncos. We do off season growing together 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.000 at Duke University, off campus, We're hanging out and you know, 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.360 all those things matter, right, Julian. I mean all that 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:32.280 time you spend together, It's not just on the NFL 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.600 stadium field, right, It's these off season workouts in May 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.480 and June and nobody's around. And to have all that 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:40.680 hard work be put in in a short period of 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.200 time and to have that payoff in that first game, 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.560 and you know I would end up being kind of 0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.160 a record breaking season. That was pretty cool. That makes 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:51.839 all the hard work work. While to me, what kind 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.880 of pitch are you giving, Wes? I mean, are you 0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.479 saying things like Tom doesn't love you like I love you, dude, 0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.560 Like he doesn't appreciate you. Yeah? Probably, so I'm afraid 0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.920 to you know, you know, eight on on you know 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.399 other people, right, And that's what recruiting is, right, Hey, 0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.600 if you go to Georgia. There's no way you're gonna 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.319 get as good an education as you would get at Tennessee. Right, 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.440 so it shouldn't even be shouldn't even be a comparison. 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.600 So let's tell you got people to Tennessee the education, yeah, 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.960 back then nothing else? Uh yeah, Look, I mean you 0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.359 pull out all stops a west, We're gonna throw it 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.960 every time. You don't have to block. Uh you know, 0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:32.120 we're gonna you know, keep the ball outside. We won't 0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.480 send you across the middle, right, I mean, everything is 0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.200 on the tape man. And you also, let's like you 0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.040 got d T, which you know I spend a little 0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.800 time with DT. You know, it's horrific what happened to 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.120 our guy. You know, can you can you shine a 0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:49.080 little light on DT? I know you you set up 0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:54.400 a scholarship for uh de Marius? Yeah yeah, Now, I 0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:57.120 mean Julia Haaber is one of my favorite favorite teammates. 0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:03.720 Sweet guy, unbelievably talented, incredibly unselfish, right, put the team 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.360 over self. You know, Look, receivers want the ball, I 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.200 get it. But Marius was different. I mean he took 0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:14.560 pride in the fact that defenses were double covering in 0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:17.560 right We're rolling a safety to his side, and that 0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.160 was going to allow Julius Thomas to be wide open, right. 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.680 I mean, de Marius took pride, but he says, hey, 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.080 because of me, they're focused on me, somebody else is 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.080 going to have their day. That is not a normal attitude. 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.160 I mean, was as excited to see my kids after 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:40.400 the game. Coaches. Kids had this incredible smile, tough, played hurt, 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:45.000 never complained, never came out of the game. So yeah, 0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.200 I missed him every day. We started the scholarship at 0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:51.520 Georgia Tech in his honor. Every year, Julie and Georgia 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.880 Tech is going to give the number eight jersey that 0:38:56.000 --> 0:39:00.000 was what Damarius wore at Georgia Tech on August eighth, 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.640 eight eight of every year he was eighty eight for 0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.399 the Broncos. Eight. At Georgia They're gonna give to their 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:10.520 top player leader senior, the number eighth jersey every year 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.040 on that date. And I think that's a pretty cool 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.880 way to keep his legacy a lot. That's that's awesome. 0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.719 It's awesome. I mean, you know, with these kind of antics, 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.360 it makes Peyton slide up in my mating scale of 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.000 who I like more. Well, We got to talk about 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.200 Eli for a second, because I'm a Giants fan. I 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:30.120 love Eli. What he's done for this city. I mean, 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.400 what he's done for our confidence. We've had some of 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.080 the other franchises in New York. We're dragging a little bit. 0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.479 That the Giants won. It made me happy to see 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.319 you cheering for Eli at that first Super Bowl. I 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.279 thought that was really cool. But there's got to be 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.640 some sibling rivalry, especially once Eli got his second You're 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.520 in Denver, was a part of you like, I gotta 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:52.160 I gotta match my brother. Well, look, certainly that was 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.040 the goal every year, and you know, we'd had great 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.400 seasons in Indianapolis and some great regular seats at Denver, 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.360 but just couldn't quite get o the Hawk, you know, 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:05.600 lost the Super Bowl. And so look extremely proud of Eli, 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.960 the way he you know, handled himself, handled New York. 0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.360 You mentioned that Super Bowl. That was one of the 0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.840 greatest football experiences for me, and I was in the 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.319 stands watching your brother lead a team in a two 0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.120 minute thrill to win a Super Bowl. So it's funny 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.839 you mentioned Eli uh and the Ravens, you know, thinking 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.520 about you know what happened in the past to get 0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:30.200 you to this point. You know, Super Bowl season two 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.640 thousand and seven, Hall of Fine and Dandy. I want 0:40:32.680 --> 0:40:36.640 to say it was two thousand and four, Eli's rookie year. 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:40.480 They went to Baltimore against Ray Lewis and a kids 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.239 ed reed. Eli tells the story better than that, better 0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:46.760 than him. But two things I remember about that game. 0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:50.839 He had a zero point zero quarterback rating, which is 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:55.000 actually hard to do because it's not because it's not 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:59.320 like over for twelve. It's like four for twenty seven 0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:04.240 with three interceptions and twenty one yards like the math 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.360 has to beer. You actually have to have a couple 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.560 of completions to get the zero point zero rating. It's 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.560 hard to do. And also, he said, Julian, you'll appreciate this. 0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.160 Eli was up there calling the bike. He's like, no, no, 0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.200 he a number fifty nine is the mic and Raves 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.120 going no, no, no, fifty nine is out the mic. 0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:22.160 I'm the bike And Eli said, oh, yeah, you're right, 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:24.720 fifty two is the mic. I mean it's not normal 0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.520 for the bike linebacker on the other team to be 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:32.080 dictating the protection call for the quarterback. So the Ravens 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.279 had a big impact on Eli. I think getting to 0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.640 that Super Bowl. Uh you know several years later, well 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.480 you talk about Kerry Collins, the Ravens beat my Giants 0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:43.120 with Kerry Collins. I think it was one and that 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.160 was my first taste of that Ravens d when I 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.200 was like, damn raight Louis two thousand, there's something else. 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.040 But uh, yeah, we have in a tradition. There was 0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:55.799 a pride there. Lord dance thugs, you know, Adelius Thomas, 0:41:56.000 --> 0:42:00.879 H McAllister. I mean, believe me, Peter Bulwer, they were, 0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:05.720 they were specials. They were and uh, it just goes 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:09.840 to tell you, you know, with all the rough times 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.399 for Eli Manning to you know, he getting called out 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:14.279 Mike points by the other team, to see him go 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.640 out there and and win two like he did. I mean, 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:19.480 he's just got a short memory and that's what you 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:21.799 have to have as an elite quarterback. And he did 0:42:21.800 --> 0:42:24.520 it twice against the Patriot. It made me very happy 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:30.279 New York about too. And when so you have this offensive, 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.399 even this insane season, throw fifty five touchdowns, you set 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:37.719 the record, where do you rank this offense? Not just 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:39.440 for you but all the time because you had insane 0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.960 offenses in Indianapolis too. Yeah, I mean, look it was. 0:42:44.360 --> 0:42:46.239 It was you know, people say it's like playing a 0:42:46.320 --> 0:42:50.880 video game. In some ways, it was because we had 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:56.319 a bunch of guys Welker, Julius Thomas, Eric Decker, uh 0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:02.000 Demarus Dreas and Tammy no show. They love football. They 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.480 loved it. They love to work, they love to practice, 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.319 they love those offseason you know, throwing sessions. And so 0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:09.520 when you have a bunch of guys that just love it, 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.880 that are unselfish, that realize, hey, today might be Decker's day, 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.439 today might be Welfer's day. I mean it just made 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.840 for a fun offense to play in. And we played, 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.040 you know, some teams that we hadn't played a while, 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.560 they didn't really have any idea what was coming. We 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.279 through a ton of touchdowns I think against the old 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.319 NFC East, if you will. So, yeah, it's pretty cool. 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.840 I see you know no Sean here in Denver, I 0:43:33.920 --> 0:43:37.520 see Joel Dreeson and you know, fifty five touchdowns in 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.799 a sixteen game season, right, I mean they've gone to 0:43:40.840 --> 0:43:43.520 seventeen games. They still haven't gotten it. I'm sure it's 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.760 going down. Brady's on a mission to break every record 0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:49.760 that I have, right, I mean, he will. He wants 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.799 to break that fifty five and trust me, right Mahomes, 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.759 I'm sure is going to get there at some point too. 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.719 So most of my records have fallen. That's one that's 0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:02.040 kind of on around, you know, for a little while. 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.879 I mean to tell you how competitive Brady is now. 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.680 He goes out and he gets more retirements than me, right, 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.120 I mean what I mean seriously like you, I mean, 0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.120 can't I just have something you know over time? No? No, no, 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.360 I'm gonna have two retirements. You know, I'm gonna have 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:19.560 more than Peyton. Yeah, but Peyton he owned us when 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.080 you're in Denver. You owned us when you're in Denver. Okay, 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.840 I get you're trying to be mister humble right now, 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.920 but you became the sheriff in that that orange uniform 0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:33.120 that we all remember in the AFC Championship in thirteen fifteen, 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.319 and we could keep it going, We could keep it going. 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:40.040 But I have a quick question, Like we talk about 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.880 the pre snap tendencies that you do. Did you jump 0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:47.240 into plays with two plays always or were you straight 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.399 audibling into other plays? Like did you have a check 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.839 with me with a two high look, a one high 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:57.160 look pass to run or was it? Did that change 0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.719 up according to who you're playing, because you're clearly a 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:02.759 game playing kind of guy. Yeah, Julian, that's how it 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:06.800 started way back when in Indianapolis. Uh. You know, around 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.200 that two thousand, two thousand and one, Uh, we were 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:13.480 calling almost three plays in the huddle. We were calling 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.799 a run to the right, run to the left, and 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.719 then an alert to a pass play right. We were 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.359 a one back offense, as you know, you know, when 0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.120 a fullback's in there, you can kind of call plays 0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.719 and it's called you know, c I alight call it 0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.239 and run it right. The fullback's gonna block the extra guy. 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.719 In a what back offense, the defense can have too 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.440 many guys in there and forcing to a bad place. 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:37.040 We wanted the flexibility, and as we got into the 0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.000 no huddle, Uh, Julian, you know, basically I want to 0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:42.440 I'm gonna say its two thousand. We were starting a 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.560 lot of games. We were losing. We were down fourteen 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:47.600 to nothing, and the coaches said, hey, let's go no puddle, 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:49.960 let's pick it up. And we started playing well. And 0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.240 finally we said, why are we waiting to get down fourteen, 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.319 nothing to go, no huddle, Let's just start the game 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.200 that way. And that's how it began. And at that 0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.600 point we stopped doing the three plays and just kind 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.720 of calling one play. And then if I saw something 0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.280 that the defense was doing like that all outlets cover zero, 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:11.960 I had the flexibility to audible to a wide receiver 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:14.640 screen and get us out of bad plays. What's the 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.319 main thing. It wasn't always trying to get to the 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.080 perfect play, it was getting us out of bad situation. 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.720 And because of that, that two thousand and no huddle 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.200 like type offense. I mean, the last part of my 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:30.280 like the final four parts four years of my career, 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.200 you're starting to see all this no huddle. Let's get 0:46:33.239 --> 0:46:35.319 to the ball, let's play fast, Let's tire out that 0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.200 defensive line. They got too many guys that get the quarterback. 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.120 The faster you could play, the more the quarterback and 0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:43.759 the OC can talk to each other. So there's a 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.920 little advantage with that. You can get lined up, you 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:51.360 can see what the defense is doing. And he revolutionized that. 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.680 I mean, that's what Peyton Manning was all about. Getting 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:57.239 his team in the best play, in the best situation. 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.000 And you know you can argue there's no one better, 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:02.719 and and you know I have nothing but respect. I 0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:06.319 always bust your goddamn balls because you know, you took 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.520 two from me in the AFC Championship. And but I 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:11.880 gotta love you because he also took Walker away. So 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:16.040 you know, I just want to well, I certainly appreciate 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:18.960 that you Joe, and I agree. You know, uh uh 0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:22.279 play callers right, some are on the sidelines, some are 0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.440 up in the there's a big debate, you know, what's 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.759 the better view. There's no doubt that the best view 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:32.279 of the field is the quarterback on the field. Right. 0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.839 He can see everything, you know, if you can give 0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:40.920 him some some some you know, freedom to get you 0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.759 out of bad place. Hey, they're finally playing man the 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.320 man let me check to a option route to Edelman 0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:49.680 in the slot, right, I mean press box sideline. Then 0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:53.040 even compare to the view that the quarterback has if 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:56.319 he can handle that freedom and responsibility, you know. So 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.360 we had Brandon Marshall on here and he said he 0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.400 were he didn't play any playoff games, and this is 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:03.359 games with names, and he's a good friend of mine. 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.840 We were on inside the NFL, which streams on paramount 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.279 plus of course, and so we had to do the 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.320 Pro Bowl where he scored four touchdowns and recap that 0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.080 for five to five touchdowns four I'm sorry four. And 0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.359 he was telling a story that you threw a dart 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:20.640 route to him in the in the red area and 0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.480 he dropped it, and he said, you gave him the 0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:27.720 death stare from one thousand miles away for four minutes 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:30.600 straight and you didn't throw the ball to him ever. Again, 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.040 is that what to expect from Peyton Manning if you 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.480 drop his ball? I mean the Pro Bowl. It's a 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:40.759 different type of motivation, right, If you're lucky enough to 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.520 be named the starter. Usually the coaches that I played with, 0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.520 a starting quarterback, you can stay in as long as 0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:49.920 you want. When you're ready to come out, you want 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:52.600 to come out, and the goal is to try to 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.359 throw as many touchdowns as you can so you can 0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.960 get the MVP award and win the car. That is 0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.800 the goal, right. I remember Rich Gannon was the starter 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.480 my first Pro Bowl. I was the third guy. Rich 0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:06.319 Cannon's like, I'm going down the field three times, I'm 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.480 gonna throw three touchdowns, I'm gonna win the car. I'm 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.360 getting out on the second series, Jeff Fisher put me 0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:13.600 in the game because he wanted me to throw a 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:17.000 touchdown to Jerry Rice because I like said that week 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.799 could be cool to throw a touchdown to Jerry Rice. 0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.399 Rich Cannon was so mad, He's like, wait a minute, 0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:23.960 I'm not coming out like this. This is my deal. 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.799 So when Marshall dropped that dart route, it was gonna 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:29.440 be a touchdown and that I thought I needed that 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.719 touchdown to win the car and he dropped it. So yeah, 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.680 and basically he cost me a car. Well, recently, Julian 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.960 threw me the bathroom key on our floor and I 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.400 bobbled it and there's been some trust issues since between us. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:47.160 So you gotta trust the guy that's catching your balls. Day. 0:49:47.280 --> 0:49:49.000 You gotta trust the guy that's catching your balls. And 0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:51.800 I don't catch your balls, Peyton, that's forgot touch it. 0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:55.719 If you touch it, you gotta catch it. That's the rule. Yeah. No, uh, 0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:58.160 that's my rule of sex too. I don't know what 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.960 that means, but uh, Peyden, Uh, what would do you 0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:03.920 wish you guys played together? I feel like you guys 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.480 could have had a cool I mean, you had Welker 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:07.960 who kind of did some similar stuff that Julian did. Yeah, 0:50:08.160 --> 0:50:11.600 do you guys think you could have had a cool connection. Oh? Absolutely, yeah. 0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.000 I mean, look, I love you know, just from watching 0:50:14.080 --> 0:50:16.920 from afore, I could tell Julian was a stuard of 0:50:17.000 --> 0:50:19.719 the game. I could tell him it's confidence Tom had 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.360 in him. And so look, I know what that's like. 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.719 You know, Wes Welker, Brandon Stokely is another guy that 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.440 kind of comes to mind. You know, it's the slot receiver, 0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:31.920 fearless across the mill, right. I mean, look, not not 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:34.440 picking on guys that play outside, but you're in the slot. 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.400 Julian will tell you you got linebackers in there, right, 0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.040 You've got ray Lewis the bike linebacker. You got safeties right, 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.640 because you're going down the middle of field. It takes 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.520 a special guy. And uh, and you really got to 0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:49.920 understand defenses, right. You have to understand the difference between 0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:53.719 cover two, cover two, man, cover four, cover eight. Right. 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.560 And then because of you know Brady and you know 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:59.520 the quarterbacks are trying to confuse the defenses lining up 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:03.320 and one defense on the snap rotating to a different defense. 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:06.360 The receiver has to see that on the run. Nobody 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.960 did that better than Julie. Well, you gotta have like 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.160 he said, you guys gotta have the same You gotta 0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.839 be on such the same page where what you're doing. 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.319 You know, he wants you to do that, and he's 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.480 got to trust you because that's where it's got to be, 0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.719 and that comes through repetition, like he said in the offseason, 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.280 learning guy's body mechanics. But speaking of Tom, last question, 0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.680 I've gotten you on my podcast, I've gotten Eli and 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.160 my pad cast. Can you can you put a word 0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:33.080 into Tom to get him to come on my own 0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:37.280 goddamn podcast because I know you guys. I mean I'll try, 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:41.440 you know, I mean, uh, you know getting Uh that's 0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.360 a big that's I mean, that's a big ask. I 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.759 mean it's a big ask. I feel like, you know, 0:51:47.200 --> 0:51:49.160 it needs to be more than just a kind of 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.480 a simple text joining. I mean, you gotta, you know, 0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.000 maybe send him something. You know, what do you send 0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.640 a man that has everything? What the fuck else can 0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.920 you give him? He's got a model wife, he's got 0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.160 seven Super Bowls, two different teams? What do I do? Peyton, 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:04.239 I don't know how to do this? Tell me about it? 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:07.359 I write him? He you know, he retires the first 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:09.440 time I asked for his address, I'm like, I'm not 0:52:09.480 --> 0:52:12.640 gonna just text you congrats on this incredible career. I 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:16.840 write him this, you know, eloquent. It's probably self serving, 0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:21.880 but handwritten letter, cursive writing on my stationary. Mail it 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:25.839 bottle of wine? Right, mail it, congratulations? What kind of way? 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:28.120 How expensive a wine? Are we talking? What do you get? 0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.080 Tom Brady as a one? I mean a nineteen ninety 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.640 nine bottle? Right, he's I mean a yeah, nineteen ninety 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.360 nine bottle, and he's rook here, No, two thousand, he 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.239 was one hundred and ninety nine. Pick what year was 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:43.600 he drafted? Thou two thousand thousand, one hundred and ninety nine, 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.200 pick right, two thousand bottle. Anyway, the point is when 0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:50.000 you come back and play, I should get the letter 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.440 back and the wine back. No, oh, Tom, Tom's just 0:52:53.520 --> 0:52:55.520 keeping it right. I mean suppose when he reads the 0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:58.520 letter often just to see the nice things that I 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.439 said about I'm like, if if he expects another letter 0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:05.319 whenever he retires in twenty thirty two, he's mistaken. It's 0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:07.600 like a destination wedding. If it doesn't work out, I 0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:10.000 want my money back for the flight. That's what I say. 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.239 It seems fair. It seems that seemed like too much 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:16.440 to ask for. I mean, Peyton Manning, you see that 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:20.400 he called himself the closer with those kind of skill 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.239 sets to be able to give a handwritten cursive letter 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.480 a bottle of wine from the year you were drafted. 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.440 I'm sure he used to close a lot. Thank we 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:34.120 love it, Giant. This is you might you might slide up, man, 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:35.600 this might have to be a one A one B 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.719 with the Peyton with the Mannings. You know what I mean. 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.480 I like it. I like it. But uh, Peyton, thank 0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:43.960 you a bunch for coming on. It's been awesome having you. 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.440 It's been awesome seeing you on TV on your stream. 0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:51.319 Uh with Monday Night football. You're fucking killing it on there. 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:56.319 Manning cast every commercial that I watch. It's awesome seeing 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.439 you and those two. So uh, you know, I'm sure 0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.440 I'll be seeing and you probably when I get home 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:03.680 and throw on my TV. So I look forward to 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.880 seeing you. Hey, I appreciate it, Julian. Great to be 0:54:06.920 --> 0:54:09.839 all with you guys. Love the idea, I love the show. 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:12.600 Thanks for having me be a part of it. Thanks Bob. 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.439 What's the legacy of this game, just that Peyton still 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:19.040 got it. I mean he's still got it, and now 0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.799 was he still got it. He's still the MVP. I mean, 0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:27.439 this is crazy that he comes out guns blazing like this. Yeah, 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:31.799 this is like ELI and the Super Bowl type behavior. Yeah, 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:36.560 you know that just ruined my train of thought. Sam, 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:39.839 thank you once again. But I am an ELI guy. 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:43.800 Like I said, when you sit down with it with 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:47.960 a great like Peyton Maning and you interview him, it 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.920 just reiterates why he was so good. Yeah, I mean 0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:56.319 anything from the three thousand, five hundred and sixty two 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.799 word fucking essay he sent me before the interview, yes 0:54:59.880 --> 0:55:03.560 d to allow me to have his notes what about 0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:07.560 the game, to the preparation skills that he had, to 0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:11.719 the relationships he had with his teammates. You know that 0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:16.080 that's that's those are the intangibles. Those are the things 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.960 that make great leaders and great leaders, great quarterbacks. And 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.239 and he had he tried to say he didn't have 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.640 an arm. I mean, this guy was playing with like 0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:28.800 fucking broken nerves and nerve damage like most people wouldn't 0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:30.719 even be able to walk. And he's over here playing 0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:34.120 in football games. So fucking just a gritty guy, more 0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:36.600 gritty than I thought he actually, Uh, I think I 0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:38.080 think I put him. Was there ever a knock on 0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:40.920 him for not being gritty? No, I don't think there was. 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.040 But you know, you don't You don't think of Peyton 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.320 Manning as like a greedy You kind of do. But 0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:48.040 you think when someone's such a skill guy, sometimes that 0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:50.480 knocks him down in the grid department. No, you just 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:51.800 think of when you think of him, you think of 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:55.440 a big brain. Yeah, you just think of, you know, hey, 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:57.360 this guy, he's gonna get the team in the right 0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:59.560 plates having a coach on the field. Just like you 0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.080 said when we were doing the interview, he goes, Hey, 0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:04.440 the best of you is the guy on the field, 0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:06.680 not the guy in the press box, not the coach 0:56:06.760 --> 0:56:09.080 on the sideline, the guy in the field. Yeah, and 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.760 that's why he was so goddamn good. Yeah. Will willing 0:56:13.800 --> 0:56:17.120 to riff, Will willing to change, you know, at the 0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:21.640 line of scrimmage audible audible. Yeah. Other seven touchdown passing 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:24.759 games we got Drew Brees at my New York Giants. Ugh, 0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:28.560 we'll strike that. Nick Foles twenty thirteen against Nick Foles, 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.800 seven touchdown game. Nick Foles had a very interesting career. 0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:39.560 Goshi Manning, Joe Capp, sid Luckman, Chicago, nineteen forty three. 0:56:40.080 --> 0:56:43.439 First the New York Giants. He's on the wall jew 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:47.759 and he's a Jew. Yeah, I love it. Put a 0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:50.560 point up for the for the squad, for the tribe. 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:55.040 Let's settle this prop bets Jack, what we got. We 0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:57.520 set the line at five and a half right at 0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:00.880 the buzzer. Sam got us to six, just like Eli. 0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:03.759 The type of thing Eli would have done in a 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:07.359 two minute drill. Yeah, we had to escape a few. Uh. 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.080 I threw I threw that lean moments there too. I 0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:14.680 threw that Eli compliment right to Plexico. Now I think 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.880 he more threw it into that team meeting and it 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:22.040 miraculously came down on a helmet or cover five down 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:26.640 the sideline in front of people. So Peyton Manning's current records, 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:29.520 he is the most MVP awards. Aaron Rodgers is one 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:31.760 behind with four. Do you think he'll catch that or no? 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.320 I don't know. It's it's gonna be tough. Aaron Rodgers 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:39.240 lost his best target. We're gonna We're gonna see. Isn't 0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:43.720 that crazy? Ye? He re signs and they lose his dude. Yeah, 0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:46.840 when you when you put that much money towards the quarterback, 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:50.919 would you have hard to keep others? That's how it goes. 0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:54.000 Would you have advised him to take less? I wouldn't 0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:56.200 have advised him to do anything. It's about him. Yeah, 0:57:56.400 --> 0:58:00.280 you know so, But that's not the Patriot way. What 0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.200 is the Patriot way? You tell me or the Patriots? 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.200 I can't tell you because that's the Patriot way, not 0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:09.560 telling people anything. Damn. It's like fight club. Is there 0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:11.600 a fight club? I don't not that I know. I 0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.760 thought we're just making soap over here, that's what we're doing. Yeah. 0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:21.480 I am Julian Edelman, my alter ego. He's my ulter 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.880 comedic ego. When I fight is Edelm. When I do 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.640 a little better, But when I when I tell a 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:33.840 joke like morell, I just I look around. We got 0:58:34.920 --> 0:58:37.080 what what's the record Manny will hold the longest? Do 0:58:37.120 --> 0:58:41.680 you think it's tough? Because you got these the seventeen 0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:46.400 game season now, so you know you and especially with 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.920 how these offenses are going. Yeah, you know, spread shred. 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:52.880 There's so many good football players. There's a lot of 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:56.920 merging unbelievable young quarterbacks in this league. Who could touch it? 0:58:57.040 --> 0:59:00.800 Mahomes Alan who Yeah, Mahomes could get hot, could get hot. 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:04.560 You just never know because the game's changed. You know, 0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:07.520 what if what is that the Peydon talks about Brady 0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:09.920 touching all of his records? What if Paiden through for 0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:14.720 fifty six? Brady? Why did I say Peyton? Sorry? What 0:59:14.840 --> 0:59:18.080 if Brady through for fifty six? Oh? He's definitely gonna 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:22.360 go for it. Yeah, he's got to. He wants them all. Yeah, 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:27.640 he's lying. Yeah, King of the Jungle. Oh yeah, and 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:31.520 I'm like little baby Mouf or baby Cimbo when he 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:35.880 just raises me. And we got to get someone photoshop 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:40.440 that of a Brady holding up a little Julian. It 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:45.720 was like that picture of you guys, fucking Brady. Can 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:46.920 we get him on the can we get him on 0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:51.680 the podcast? What's going on here? Most touchdowns by a 0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:57.320 QB receiver duo in NFL history? Manning and Harrison? What's greenk? 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:01.959 Gronk and Brady? Oh they need ten? Grunk and Brady 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:05.000 need ten. He's grunking to play this year. I don't know. 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:08.400 Mann and Harrison they really were They were the connection 1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:12.080 for so many years. Dude, that little back shoulder fade 1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:14.240 that I used to watch them run all the time. 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.880 It was it was nuts. Where does Peyton Manning land 1:00:19.200 --> 1:00:22.800 in the QB hierarchy? I think he's no doubt top 1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:24.600 five And it's like, where do you put him in 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:26.800 the top five is a question? How about what do 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:30.280 you think I would put him in? Top three? I 1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:32.120 think I would too. I think I think you gotta 1:00:32.160 --> 1:00:38.440 go Brady one. Is it Montana to? Or what you're 1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:41.200 going Montana to? No question? Right, I don't know Kyler. 1:00:41.240 --> 1:00:43.440 Where do you rank him? Jack? What do you you 1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:55.520 rank him? Three? Jack Manning? Yeah? Four? Jack Dante Culpepper, 1:00:57.280 --> 1:01:00.320 he had a cannon. He also was on the mat 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:03.520 and cover. I got a wild top five I put 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:07.240 I think I go three too. He was incredible. He 1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:10.240 revolutionized the game. I mean incredible. Like he said in 1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:12.360 two thousand, he was runn this no huddle, It's getting 1:01:12.400 --> 1:01:14.600 played two minute quick, and that's what all the teams 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:16.760 are doing now. I can remember putting those same types 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:20.720 of schemes in NASCAR with the Patriots in like two 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:24.640 thousand and nine, two thousand and ten, and then we 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.040 got away from it. Because it gets hard. You got 1:01:27.120 --> 1:01:29.080 to everyone on the same page. Everyone's got to be 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:30.920 smart enough and to have a guy that can get 1:01:30.960 --> 1:01:34.040 everyone on the same page that quick. All the time. 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:39.120 I mean everyone's saying yo, maha, everyone's saying all that stuff. Everyone's, 1:01:39.520 --> 1:01:41.400 you know, at the line of scrimmage, trying to dick 1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:43.880 around with the defense because that's what Peyton Manning did. 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:47.040 So this is a good one for you. Where do Demius, Thomas, 1:01:47.280 --> 1:01:50.600 Welker and decker a stack up against all time receiving rooms. 1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:55.120 I mean, they they were good. They were they were 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:58.040 damn good. I'd have to put they have to be. 1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:02.000 They were probably top three four, top three, top four. 1:02:02.600 --> 1:02:03.880 Got I don't know that. I don't know the order 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:06.320 I got. I'd have to put on all these films 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:08.920 to really watch. I mean you got some, I mean, 1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:12.680 greatest show on turf. Tory Hold, Isaac Bruce, Ricky Proll. Yeah, 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:16.720 you know those old seventy Steeler teams. You had Lynn Swan, 1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:22.720 John Stalworth, then Peyton over at freaking the Colts had 1:02:22.800 --> 1:02:27.080 Marvin Harrison, Reggie, Wayne Dallas Clark left off Stokely here too, 1:02:27.920 --> 1:02:32.320 Stokely Dola Gronk and jewels. That's pretty good. Hey man, 1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:34.800 we don't we didn't get you know, we're not in 1:02:34.880 --> 1:02:37.040 that category. But we did win in the in the 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:39.880 in the PA to two super Bowls. That's you know, 1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.040 when it mattered. We don't have the numbers, but you 1:02:42.080 --> 1:02:44.840 know we have the hardware, Rings and things out here. 1:02:45.200 --> 1:02:48.160 Rings and things is the greatest offense of all time. 1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:50.440 It's in the it's in the conversation. I don't know 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.840 if it's the best ever. Uh. I think the Rams 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:56.080 you got to put in that conversation because the running 1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:59.800 back Christ and Marshall Fuck, I mean falk is without Falk, 1:02:59.800 --> 1:03:02.120 I think it's more of a conversation. But Marshall Fawk 1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:07.240 is like unlike anything I've ever seen. He could run 1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:09.560 with receivers. He could he could run her out like 1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:12.840 a receiver. He could run like an inside tackle running 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:17.200 running back. Yeah. Yeah, I have to go with the 1:03:17.240 --> 1:03:20.560 greatest show on turf or the I'm gonna go with 1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:23.720 the Seven Pats, you know, I'm gonna go with the 1:03:23.920 --> 1:03:27.440 Seven Giants. I think Eli and Plax had a great connection. 1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:32.680 Amani Tumor was a great security blanket. I mean, it's 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:35.000 the thunder and lightning combo of a mad Bradshaw and 1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:36.840 Brandon Jacobs. I think it's it could be any of 1:03:36.880 --> 1:03:39.880 those groups. I personally lean O seven Giants. We all 1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:43.760 have our opinions. We all have our opinions. Sam, Yeah, Jack, 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:48.760 do we miss anything We hit our prop bet. We 1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:52.040 talked a little bit about Manning's record versus Patriots. He 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:55.440 was six and eleven all time against Brady, but did 1:03:55.560 --> 1:03:57.920 have the edge in the playoffs three and two. Wow, 1:03:58.680 --> 1:04:01.920 which is a bit surprising. And we mentioned Eli recording 1:04:01.960 --> 1:04:05.160 that zero point zero in which that was true. That 1:04:05.280 --> 1:04:08.320 came in Week fourteen versus Baltimore and he was replaced 1:04:08.360 --> 1:04:10.440 in the fourth quarter by Kurt Warner. That was when 1:04:10.640 --> 1:04:13.920 Kurt Warner was with the Giants. Man yep one year. 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:17.800 We talked about the halftime show of The Hardball Bull 1:04:17.880 --> 1:04:22.720 that was Beyonce joined by Destiny's Child, and we mentioned 1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:28.120 Faxgate a little bit deeper on that. Elvis Dumerville agreed 1:04:28.120 --> 1:04:31.160 to take an eight million dollar contract instead of twelve 1:04:31.320 --> 1:04:33.240 with Denver, so he's taking a pay cut. I hope 1:04:33.240 --> 1:04:35.680 his agent did not commission him on that, because he 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:38.960 fucked up pretty bad. His agent was running around Miami. 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:47.160 It was a man. Okay, he was six minutes late 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:50.000 getting it in and instead the Ravens signed him to 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:53.160 a five year contract worth thirty five million. His agent 1:04:53.320 --> 1:04:56.400 was fired, as you can imagine, but also fined twenty 1:04:56.440 --> 1:05:00.680 five thousand dollars by the NFLPA and suspended for six months. Yikes. 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:04.880 He's a loser there, so that sucks. And oh we 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:08.520 talked a little bit about the scheduling conflict which made 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:11.760 this game take place in Denver. There was some parking 1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:16.600 issues the MLB Wooden Budge. There was also some religious 1:05:16.600 --> 1:05:20.520 holiday exemptions down the line that the Orioles sighted. But 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:23.400 in the long run, the Oriols ended up losing four 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:25.520 to three to the Blue Jays that night. I'm hauling 1:05:25.560 --> 1:05:27.200 the fourth place in the Al East. I don't know 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:29.840 if it's karma, it's just the Orioles. I think that's 1:05:29.880 --> 1:05:33.160 just what happened to the Orioles, but karma two for sure. 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:35.640 Naming the game, is it the Manning seven? Gotta be 1:05:35.680 --> 1:05:37.640 the Maning seven. I like it because it reminds me 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:40.160 of the Magnificent Seven too. It's kind of a fun title. 1:05:40.400 --> 1:05:42.960 And then you also have the Brady six that old 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:45.680 documentary were the six guys that were drafted before Brady. 1:05:45.920 --> 1:05:48.800 That made him cry on that one documentary. And we 1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:52.800 had long hair, long beautiful hair, and you know that 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:55.280 made me cry when I saw him cry a little. Yeah, 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:57.840 you know fired me up. You're connected, man, Let's score 1:05:57.920 --> 1:06:00.520 it stakes. It's a weak one game, so we got 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:03.000 to go low on the stakes. Yeah, but it is 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:05.800 the team that knocked you out. So there's pride at stake. 1:06:05.920 --> 1:06:10.040 There's definitely pride. It's it's it's early in the year. 1:06:11.080 --> 1:06:15.400 You're learning your team. Five to five five five five 1:06:15.520 --> 1:06:18.000 five star power. You got to go pretty high here, 1:06:18.040 --> 1:06:19.960 I think. I mean you got Peyton Manning, Hall of Famer, 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:23.760 you had d T Julius Thomas. This was a year ago. 1:06:23.840 --> 1:06:26.720 We were going even bigger because we lose Ray Lewis 1:06:26.800 --> 1:06:29.840 and Ed Reid's Yeah they weren't there, but that was 1:06:29.920 --> 1:06:31.880 a defending Super Bowl team and you had the elite 1:06:31.960 --> 1:06:35.440 Joe Flacco on there. So Flacco got his ring. Man, 1:06:36.040 --> 1:06:37.479 I have to I'd have to give it to seven 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:41.760 five seven five seven five gameplay. It's good gameplay because 1:06:41.760 --> 1:06:44.760 we're watching a guy put on a clinic, clinic and 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:47.080 it started out a little slow. It was I mean, 1:06:47.160 --> 1:06:49.840 they were losing at halftime. The Denver Broncos were losing 1:06:49.920 --> 1:06:52.720 at halftime. So in the ra and the Ravens sniffer 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:55.760 sniff around a little bit toward the end. So there's 1:06:55.800 --> 1:07:00.320 a little excitement there was. We'll give that a seven 1:07:00.440 --> 1:07:05.600 five to yeah, as in also the name the Brady 1:07:05.920 --> 1:07:12.640 or the Manning seven seven seven, that seems appropriate. Seven. 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:15.680 So what is this is a six point eight five? 1:07:22.200 --> 1:07:24.160 And there's no bias here because they knocked us out 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:26.919 of the AFC Championship or anything either. You know, that's 1:07:27.080 --> 1:07:30.520 just how it goes. It goes. You can't win them all. 1:07:31.120 --> 1:07:35.200 You certainly cannot six point eight unless you're ELI, unless 1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:37.160 you're elying the Super Bowl against the Patriots, in which 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:41.920 case you can win them all. That is once again true, Sam, 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:46.120 That's once again true. Let's hey, but this was a 1:07:46.160 --> 1:07:50.360 great episode. This was a great episode of Games with 1:07:50.520 --> 1:07:54.960 Names presented by win Bet. Thank you to all our listeners, 1:07:55.080 --> 1:07:59.440 our wonderful sponsors. Be sure to follow us on all 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:03.520 the social platforms at Games with Names we have them 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:09.160 on all write a review, click like, swipe, whatever you 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:11.800 have to do. I'm Joan Edelman, I'm Sam mourrel thanks 1:08:11.800 --> 1:08:12.320 for listening,