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This is 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the time of the week where we usually do don't 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: call it a throwback Thursday, and we have a lot 30 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: of fun and we're gonna go back to two thousand 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: and eight. I'm gonna give credit to Dan Byer because 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: he's the only professional in this group, because we all 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 1: wanted to mess around and have fun about two thousand 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: and He's like, you know, this is too big a story, 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: and he's right. Our job is to cover what people 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: are talking about. We can't start an hour of a 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: radio show and be a real sports radio show that 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: talks about what people are talking about without talking about 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: this run more story. So we're not gonna do don't 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: call it throw back Thursday, not that we wouldn't have 41 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: fun with it, not that we can't pocket it and 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: do it next week. So yesterday, at about this time, 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit late, like fifteen minutes, was when 44 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: this story broke. We have we are twenty four hours 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: into it, and the irony to it was Dan and 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: I along with who is our guest yesterday that Adam 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: Kaplan who covers the National Football League. We were talking 48 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: about jobs and I was like, hey, you know, maybe 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Sharon Moore in Michigan next year because I knew the pressure. 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: It's like, don't ever follow Harbaugh. It's going to happen 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: at Stanford. By the way he left, I don't ever 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: find it's too it's really hard. I mean, Caitlin de 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: bores in the College Football Playoff. Most people believe that 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: had they been left out of the college football Playoff, 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: they get fired. And there are people saying today that 56 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: even though they're going to play against Oklahoma, get a 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: rematch against team that they massively outgained Okay and they 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: got to play on the road, that he may leave 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: and take the Michigan job because following Saban it's like 60 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: following Caliperry when you're in doesn't work for anybody so 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: hard because the guys are they're so good, they have 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: it so wired, they have all their people, and then 63 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: they leave and it's really really hard to put that together. Again, 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: that's not why he. 65 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: Lost his job. 66 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: He lost his job because messed round with a woman 67 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: that not only was not his wife and he was married, 68 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: but he employed her. That's how they got and there's 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: no real defense for it. I mean, what what, what 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: do you like? The everybody's out to get me? And 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: like again, we can all in our minds speculate as 72 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: to the did it just happened once and then she 73 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: said something to somebody and then it got back to 74 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: her and that's why he went. 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Out And for we like, why are you telling people? 76 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: I don't know? It doesn't matter. 77 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: All it takes is once she works for you, Okay, 78 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: she can sue the entire university, you understand, and others 79 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: can sue as well, now for unfair hiring practices. 80 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: That's what he like. 81 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: We all look at the infidelity and it's I'm not 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: in any way saying infidelity is a good thing. 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: I'm not. 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying the reason he got fired is because it 85 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: opens up university to a litany of legal issues, and 86 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: universities almost always settle because if you go to court, 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: then it's got to be disclosure. Then everybody's text messages, 88 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: everybody's emails, everybody they know gets exposed, and there's always 89 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: something when you know, you open up the hood that 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: you don't like. 91 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: That's what happened, you know, that's the reality of it. 92 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: And if this is one of those we thought the 93 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: hiring cycle had kind of ended. But I want you 94 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: to stop and take a breath and think about this. 95 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Arkansas, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Kentucky forgetting, 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: forgetting some Oklahoma State, Iowa State, UCLA, well messing any 97 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Dan Byer that have come upen so far this year. 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: I think that's plenty. Yeah, I think. 99 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow, holy cow, Like if you thought 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: the transfer portal was something, we're talking about half of 101 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: the biggest programs in the Virginia Tech Sorry, insane, what's 102 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: happened in this sport? Obviously this is a different story 103 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: than those other ones, but there's some similarities there. 104 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: Crazy Dan, Where are you on the story right now? 105 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 4: So? 106 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the reason that I wanted to talk about it 107 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: is also when you were with George Reister. It's other 108 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: schools have had scandals before. You brought up my name 109 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: as an Ohio State fan, and I know there's no 110 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: qualms about that. Whatsoever. But it feels like the points 111 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: that I think people are talking about and then I'm 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: curious about, are being framed that this is coming from 113 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: a bias side. And when you're saying that Penn State 114 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: can't say anything, Michigan State everything. Yeah, everybody has gone 115 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: through it, but guess what, they're not going through it 116 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: right now, Like this is the topic that is going 117 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: on right now that we are talking about, So it 118 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: doesn't come from a bias. It comes from this is 119 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: the thing that people are talking about. And there are 120 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: legitimate questions about why this happened. When this happened, We're 121 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: hearing other rumors about Sharon more and maybe reaching out 122 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: to other females, whether they be only fans models or 123 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: ig models like these are all things that are starting 124 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: to pop up. But there's also the point of this 125 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: is that why did this investigation conclude on December tenth? 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: And why did this investigation which had been going on 127 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: for months that people close to the program had known about, 128 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: why did it happen then? And why wasn't anything done 129 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: at that time? And I think these are all questions 130 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: and I'm saying this because I don't have the answers 131 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: to them, I can guess, and I could be I 132 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: guess I could be an Ohio State fan and said, 133 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: you just wanted to be at Ohio State. But that 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: could be an absolute reason. They did it the week 135 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: after National Signing Day? Was that fair to the recruits? Like? 136 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: What are all these reasons? And all of these things 137 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: that are being brought up are legitimate aside from the 138 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: fact that he violated the university code. But as I 139 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: told you yesterday, the thing that wasn't different to me 140 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: was this is what broke the straw that broke the 141 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: camel's back, him having an affair with a staffer after 142 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: everything that has gone on within that program, that this 143 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: was the point where they said we can't have Sharon 144 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: Moore anymore. He still hasn't completed as full suspension from 145 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: his role in the counter Stallion's situation, like there were 146 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: still more games that he needed to serve via suspension. 147 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, but doesn't that doesn't that answer itself though? And 148 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: again the first thing is I understand what you're saying. 149 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: I'll get into the the and I apologize to you 150 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: if you thought the fan thing was casting dispersions on 151 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: your opinion, it was not I'll get to I'll explain 152 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: in one second. The first thing is you did you 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: basically laid it out yourself for as why there can 154 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: be no tolerance for it. You're still haven't served all 155 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: your game suspension and you have this like come on, 156 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: what are we doing here. 157 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: Second thing is. 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: It's one thing to be to have infidelity. It's a 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: whole other thing when she works for you. It's not 160 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: she works at the university. She works for you. Okay, 161 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that is lawsuit, lawsuit, lossuit. Everybody who applied for that job, 162 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: because it's a state institution, in order to hire somebody, okay, 163 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: they have to go through all these. 164 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Layers of hiring. 165 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: Or you have to do an emergency high where you're 166 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: like hey, and that that's when the president has to 167 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: get involved, the ad has to get involved in you 168 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: do an emergency high. So anybody who applied for that 169 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: job that doesn't get it can now sue Michigan for 170 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: unfair hiring practices because you hired somebody because they think 171 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: she was stooping the head coach. That's the real again, 172 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: that's the reality of what happens in these situations. Okay, 173 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: it is is a Title nine violation. 174 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: It is a. 175 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: What's the HR violation as well as a violation of 176 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: your contract and your and the university code, et cetera. 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: But more than anything, if you do something where your 178 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: school can get sued for it, you're going to get fired. 179 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: And then you factor in as you said, still hadn't 180 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: served all the suspension for the previous scandals, which has 181 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this, but it's the we we can't. 182 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it got to that level. I don't 183 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: think it had anything to do with any of that 184 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: other stuff. I do think they wanted them gone because 185 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: they weren't winning, like Ohio State was winning. And I 186 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: think it made it really really easy for him, and 187 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: it's really really dumb. 188 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: I agree with that, And that's why I say, if 189 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: there wasn't something happening in October, considering the damage, and 190 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: I actually think that the culture that Sharon Moore was 191 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: living in in ann Arbor, within that program, within that 192 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: university allowed him to think that he was superman. I mean, 193 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: he got away with everything he did, and so like 194 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: that's why I also think that some of the blame 195 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: then comes on Michigan and falls on them for how 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: this all transpired, and I think that there could be 197 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: blame if they knew about this for months in advance 198 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: and knew that something was going on. 199 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: It's a great question, but I don't Again, I don't 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: know the mike. Again, this is just a guess. Okay, 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: the guess is, yeah, they probably probably didn't know a 202 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: while back, right, there's no more secrets, only fact he 203 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: had to be revealed. 204 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 2: They probably knew. 205 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, again, it is curious that that they didn't 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: have the findings. But you also have to have a 207 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: thorough investigation. 208 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 5: You just do. 209 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: And had they come to the conclusion in the middle 210 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: of the season, you nap palm the year nap palm. Now, 211 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't know legal ease, and I obviously they have 212 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: to protect themselves. Like when you have these things going on, 213 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: all the lawyers get involved and you're like, you know, 214 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: so if they did it so that it was done 215 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: after the season had concluded, they did it under the 216 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: guidance of university attorneys. 217 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: Again, we're acting like we know, we're not. I'm not 218 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: an attorney. I don't know. 219 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: But something of this magnitude is never done without the 220 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: most important people signing off on the most important people 221 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: is the attorney right, because Michigan has a massive endowment 222 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: and all of that can be had with lawsuits. Right, 223 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: it's what's hindered Michigan State with the trainer. They had 224 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: USC had these issues as well. Okay, so well you're 225 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: you're not like, when do they know about this? And 226 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: that's also how people get fired. When did you know? 227 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: And what did you do about it? And did you 228 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: pass it up the chine of command. If you didn't 229 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: tell you're superior, then you're going to get fired today. 230 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: And if your superior got this information and didn't pass 231 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: it up to their superior, they're going to get fired today. 232 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: That talent. 233 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: That's how these things work, and that's why I started 234 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: the show going. I actually understand all these people are 235 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: going to be one everybody right, And it's crazy because 236 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: as you and I know, Michigan's basketball team is unbelievable. 237 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: They're being there smacking everybody by forty Nobody cares right now. 238 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: All they care about is football, and this is a 239 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: massive stain on an incredible university. But yet you're listen, 240 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: we're all right to speculate my issue on the or 241 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: my thought on the talk of being a fan is 242 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I do think that our fandom gets in the that's 243 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: where the well, you know, they were able to get 244 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: away with violations the Connor Stallions thing, and I'm like, dude, 245 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: I just don't see a correlation at all. 246 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: I just don't. 247 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: I know. You do you agree that Michigan was not 248 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 3: forthcoming with the NC double A throughout the investigation? 249 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: I do, but I have no I also hold on 250 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: holld let me finish my finish. But again that comes 251 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State basketball. Totally forthcoming, got penalized anyway, and 252 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: everybody tells you, like you know, it used to be, 253 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: follow the sword, tell them everything and you'll get you know, 254 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: and they'll lessen the punishment. And that doesn't happen. So 255 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: now it's like, don't say nothing, but nobody about nothing. 256 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Period's top again. And I but again, I just don't think. 257 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: I could be wrong and I could be naive on 258 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: this one. But I don't think because you because I 259 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: don't think they got away with anything with the Connor 260 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Stallions thing. 261 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't think. I don't think it 262 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: was a massive deal. We all do things in scouting 263 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: and trying to know somebody's play. 264 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: Cards, that's not the point we're starting to move away. 265 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: The point is is if Michigan did did cover up, 266 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: or was not forthcoming to the NC Douablea, then why 267 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 3: would we expect them to be forthcoming about their head 268 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: football coach in the middle of a football season that 269 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: you just said five minutes ago that they didn't want 270 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: to tank the season because they had a four million 271 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: dollar quarterback. However much Bryce Underwood was making, they only 272 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: had a loss to Oklahoma on their schedule. There were 273 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 3: still bigger fish to fry. And that's the question about 274 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: what about the timing of all of this, like the 275 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 3: Sharon More stuff is I think it's blatantly obvious if 276 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: you're having an affair with your staffer, whether you're married 277 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: or not, whether we have kids or not, can't happen. 278 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent correct. But how much did Michigan know, 279 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: Because that's the point of everything that happened in the 280 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: Harbaugh era and the conter Stallions thing, and even before that, 281 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: what did Michigan know and did they cooperate? Did they 282 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: think they could get away with it again? And then 283 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: when it was convenient for them to get rid of 284 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: a head coach, that boosters and other people were souring on. 285 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 3: They then acted on the opportunity. That's what every Ohio 286 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: State fan, Michigan State fan, every college football fan, every 287 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: sports fan wants to know and probably has a right 288 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: to know whether they're a fan of those teams or not. 289 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: And that's what we don't know right now. And that's 290 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: why I think this is such a huge story. And 291 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: as big as it. 292 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Is, when do they know, who do they tell, what 293 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: do they do about it? It's the it's where the 294 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: cover up becomes bigger than the crime. 295 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: I get it. 296 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with the crime, and I think the 297 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: allegations of a cover up we'll see. My guess is, again, 298 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: this is a guess. I don't know. I have zero facts. 299 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: I've had zero time to call people and dig in. 300 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: I just have. 301 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: My personal guess is they probably did find out about 302 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: it sometime in the middle of the season, and they 303 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: probably went to the lawyers and like, hey, what do 304 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: we do, Like you got to have a complete investigation, 305 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they probably said, like, let's have it 306 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: for after the game, after the season is done. 307 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 308 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a university policy that has 309 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: a uniformity with the timeline of investigation forty five thirty days, 310 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: forty five days, sixty days, six months. I don't know, 311 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: but I do believe that if there was an investigation 312 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: in which there. 313 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: Was Okay, that's what we were told, right, if. 314 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: There was an investigation, all of these things. Again, part 315 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: of it, part of the good thing in your desire 316 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: to get answers, is you will because it's at a 317 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: state institution, it's at a state institution, it was a 318 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: private school, then go none of your business, none of 319 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: your business. And it is It's also interesting that you know, 320 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald just got a job at Michigan State, right 321 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: he was He was fired because of allegations of mistreatment 322 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: of players. Okay, they did an investigation. We didn't find 323 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: out about any of those findings to it till he 324 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: took him to court and then he you know, there 325 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: was there were stories about it, but he took him 326 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: to court and was exonerated and I was back as 327 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: head coaching in the Big Ten. I don't think Sharon 328 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: Moore is going to be exonerated, but I do think 329 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: we'll find out all of those details that you want 330 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: to know. I don't think you can cover it, cover 331 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: it up when there's a university led investigation in the 332 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: state institution, especially. 333 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 2: One like Michigan. 334 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: That's that's that's a an educated guess. But again I 335 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 1: want to make sure that's clear. It's a guess you 336 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: will have. You will know when they knew, and you 337 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: will will probably have to assume some things, but you 338 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: will know who knew and what they did about it, 339 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: and if they didn't do enough, or if they didn't 340 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: pass up a chain of command, or they didn't alert 341 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: others to it, or if they made it. 342 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: So, hey, let's make the investment. 343 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: If there's an email that says, hey, let's make sure 344 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: this investigation comes to a conclusion. After football senison is over, 345 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: that person will be fired. That includes ward manual, that 346 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: includes the president of university, that includes anybody. 347 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: That's that's how it works. They all lose their jobs 348 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: if they didn't do the job properly. 349 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 350 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 351 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 352 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 6: listen live. 353 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: You guys know this, I do not so the Coliseum 354 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: Are they doing opening ceremonies back there again? Are they 355 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: putting the track back in the Colisseum for twenty. 356 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 3: Eight Yes, they're building a track that is actually going 357 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: to be elevated, I don't know, like six to twelve 358 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 3: feet above the ground. It's a unique setup, but it 359 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: takes a really, really long time to put together. And 360 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: they have the para Olympics coming up in late August. 361 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: So the teardown from all of that and then to 362 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 3: get the grass grow is the reason why. According to 363 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: the Times. 364 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: That could be crazy if you think about it, right, UCLA, 365 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: if you don't know, is moving to Sofi from the 366 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. USC would move to the Rose Bowl. I 367 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: mean USC would be in Sofi. The Rams are in Sofi, 368 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers are in so Fi. And I will tell 369 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: you that my two favorite stadiums occupy my two favorite teams, Packers, 370 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Lambeaux Classic. Right, it's been redone a bunch of times, 371 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: but the core of it, the lower Bowl is still 372 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: the same, and then Sofi, which is the newest. 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Ship fast 381 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: and free back by free road ASP protection with convenience 382 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: slation options like mobile Timeslation direct dot Com the way 383 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: tire buying should be. This is the Doug Gottlieb Show. 384 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: Let's welcome in. Daniel Jeremiah DJ joins us on. 385 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. 386 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 6: DJ. 387 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: I got to ask you about the Michigan story. One, 388 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 1: because well you cover football too. You your other one 389 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: of your other jobs is as the Chargers color analyst, okay. 390 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: And three your dad is a very very famous preacher 391 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: in the United States. When when you heard that story, 392 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: what was your what what went through your mind? 393 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 5: Well, I think probably like a lot of other people there, 394 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: you know, I'd heard rumors for a while that there 395 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 5: was you know, not all the details, but some of 396 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: the you know what was what ended up coming out 397 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 5: had been rumored about for a while in kind of 398 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 5: the football world, in football circles, So it wasn't totally 399 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 5: shocked and surprised by by it when it came out. 400 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 5: But my first thought, and this goes to the way 401 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 5: you know that I was raised, and and I hope 402 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 5: a lot of people think, but it's like Ali, I 403 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 5: just feel terrible for his wife and those kids, and 404 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 5: this girl and and all that she's gone through and 405 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 5: this whole thing. It's just it's a lot bigger than football. 406 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: You know, you start there first and foremost, and then uh, 407 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 5: you know, from that standpoint you look forward and go, man, 408 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 5: all these all these kids that are at Michigan currently 409 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 5: on the team, as well as all the people who 410 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 5: just signed up to go there. Man, they're left in limbo. 411 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just, it's just it's an awful, awful, 412 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: awful decision made by you know, this one person that 413 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: has just ripple effects through a lot of lives. 414 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: It's it is It's nuts how how all the different 415 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: entanglements and all the different things that it doesn't even 416 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: for hardball, it ends up. You know, you already had 417 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: the NC investigation for the Connors stallions. Now it does 418 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: put a little bit of a stain on. 419 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: His era there. The other big story of the week 420 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: was Philip. 421 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: Rivers signing the practice squad to the Indianapolis Colts. By 422 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: the way, guys, do we have that? Do we have 423 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: the met with Telesco? This is randomly what happened. Te 424 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: LESCo joins us every Monday, right every Monday. So you know, 425 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: we were reacting to Danny Dimes, you do have it 426 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: or don't have it? Okay, to Danny Dimes tearing his 427 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: achilles tendon. 428 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 3: Right. 429 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: So we had te LESCo on and he's like, I said, 430 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: how does this work? 431 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 6: Right? 432 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: Because being a general manager for twelve years, he's had 433 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: these situations where a guy goes down late in the year. 434 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: You know, you can't trade for anybody. H This was 435 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: the conversation we had. 436 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: Here we are, we're at December eighth. You've been in 437 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: a similar situation where I gotta find a quarterback here 438 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: you know who's on the street, and I got a 439 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: potential playoff team. 440 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 3: What's this? 441 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: What's the process? 442 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 6: Like? 443 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: How does it work. 444 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: Well? 445 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: At this point? Since you're past the trade deadline, you're 446 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: really your only chance. It's gonna have to be somebody 447 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: from your own roster at this at this point, unless 448 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: you just get lucky and there's a quarterback who's on 449 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: the street, who's been in a shame steaks like an 450 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: offense before I'd have to look it up for the 451 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 4: chances are slim. 452 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: So I mean you gonna call Philip Rivers get him 453 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: out of retirement. 454 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Phillip recently, and 455 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: mean he's coaching high school football I think right now, 456 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 4: so I think that may not work. 457 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: Crazy, right, I was like Philip Rivers, Okay, so there 458 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: have been lots of Oh, isn't there anybody else? My 459 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: thought was like, like Jeff George, right, you still come out? 460 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: Can I don't know if he can do it, but 461 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: he's basically like a quarterback coach, a savant who can 462 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: teach the system and yeah, maybe for for a game, 463 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: can come in while somebody else learns what they're doing. 464 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: You've been around both, You've seen how they work together. 465 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: Does this make sense to you? 466 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, that actually kind of does. You know. You say 467 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: a little bit of a hail Mary here, but there's 468 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 5: zero learning curve. He probably knows that offense even better 469 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 5: than the guy who's putting the play call in his headset, 470 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 5: so you have no no learning to take place there. 471 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 5: He's going to get you in the right run. Plays 472 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 5: you got a good offensive line and elite running back, 473 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 5: so he's going to help your run game from that standpoint, 474 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 5: and then to me, it's just, you know, not so much. 475 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: This first game, you know, fends up being the case, 476 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 5: which I would imagine it would be that he starts 477 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 5: against Seattle is going to be how did he come 478 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 5: out of it for the next game and then the 479 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: game after that, you know, that would be more of 480 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 5: my concern. I saw that there's like two touchdowns. You know, 481 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 5: they're saying Seattle this week, and I'm looking at that 482 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 5: going I don't I mean maybe if that was a 483 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: second or third week, but I think the first week back, 484 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 5: they'll they'll throw every screen imaginable, which Phillis can do 485 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 5: that until he's one hundred years old. And they're going 486 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: to run the ball with Jonathan Taylor, which will shorten 487 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 5: the game, and he'll get him in some good run plays. 488 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: You can't lose this step. You never here's me, here's 489 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: here's mine. 490 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 491 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 2: People are like, well, he can't lose the step you 492 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: never had. 493 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was just part of his games. 494 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he had never had. 495 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: I mean the only thing is going to be arm strength, 496 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: which faded how about this this here's a here's an 497 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: interesting one for you. You remember Tim Hasselback came Matt Hasseback 498 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: came back and started started a game. 499 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: I think he was like. 500 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: Forty when he won a couple of games coming back right, 501 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: and he could kind of barely throw it late. And 502 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: we've seen this before from Indy. But how many people 503 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: know they won eleven games in his last year there? Again, 504 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't great, but they know they It's not like 505 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: he went out and he was terrible and they won 506 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: two games and it was shame Like they won eleven games? 507 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 2: Is last year in Indy? 508 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: Yeah no, that'ought I'm saying. I feel the short little 509 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 5: first here. I think he'll be okay. My thing's going 510 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: to be how to come out of it after a 511 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 5: couple of physical games. I can't imagine. I got invited. 512 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: I just turned forty eight. I got invited to play 513 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 5: in a high school a lovenight baseball game, Like baseball 514 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 5: just jogg around chance, No chance would I ever do that, dude, 515 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: Like there's just even just the smallest bit of effort 516 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: trying to leg something out. Assuming I could actually put 517 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: the ball in play, which is quite an assumption. That's 518 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 5: just I don't have faith in my body to hold up. 519 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: There, Shudor what'd you think? What'd you think of sor Sanders? 520 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 5: I think there's some good stuff. You know, it's obvious. 521 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 5: You know you can go to the all the Raiders 522 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 5: and the and the Titans are the games, and the 523 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 5: quality of the competition's not great with those. You know, 524 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 5: his his two good performances, but he's he's pushed the 525 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 5: ball down the field, which I like to see from 526 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 5: a young quarterback. He hasn't you know, been scared the 527 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 5: way he's played. There's still stuff to clean up. He's 528 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 5: still put the ball in harms away a couple of times, 529 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 5: you know, continues to drift a little bit, which he's 530 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 5: gotten better, but that still needs to improve. But he 531 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 5: throws I mean, when he's clean and protected in there, 532 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 5: he throws a really pretty ball. He's very accurate with 533 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 5: how he throws it. So you know they'll step up 534 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 5: in competition this week. It'll be a better evaluation tool. 535 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: But you know, from what we saw with Dylan g Abriel, 536 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 5: just an unwillingness to try and get the ball down 537 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 5: the field. You can't score points, you know, so he's 538 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 5: given him a chance to push the ball and score 539 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 5: some points. So I think it's been a clear upgrade 540 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 5: over Dylan Gabriel And and it's a big it's a 541 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 5: big home stretch for him. If he could somehow show 542 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 5: them the upside that would that would take them out 543 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 5: of the quarterback market for this next year. They have 544 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: a lot of resources they could build up the rest 545 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 5: of their roster. 546 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the big question, right, Like if it was today, 547 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: And I know it's not today. I know they have 548 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: the rest of the season to evaluate, But if it 549 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: was today, because you can't keep him and there's no 550 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: quarterback competition, if you draft a guy with your first pick, right, 551 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: he's going to be the guy. So you got to 552 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: make a decisions either this is our guy in schnor 553 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: Sanders and he can't be a backup. 554 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: That's not happening. 555 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 5: Would you agree with that, Yeah, one hundred percent. 556 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just too big a personality, too big a name. 557 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 1: He's not a backup. 558 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So he's either your starter or you go draft 559 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: a starter. 560 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: If it was today and they ask you, DJ and 561 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I know you haven't gotten deep in to your evals 562 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks. 563 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 5: But what would you do based off where we are 564 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 5: right now and a couple of teams, you know, potentially 565 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 5: being ahead of him in the draft. Yeah, I would 566 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 5: stick with him for another year. I would give him 567 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: a full year audition. I wouldn't be in a hurry 568 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 5: to run right back into that market. I would give 569 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 5: him a year and then have infrastructure in place. You've 570 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: got extra picks you can have, you can have an 571 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 5: opportunity that in the twenty seven and you'll have a 572 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: better roster to support whenever you'd take a quarterback if 573 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 5: he wasn't. 574 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: The guy Stell Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 575 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to declare like being a Charger guy. 576 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: I don't want to call time of death on the 577 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: on the Chiefs, right. I don't want to be that guy. 578 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 3: Right. 579 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: Let somebody else do it. But in your mind, what's 580 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: your reaction to where they are in terms of, you know, 581 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: surprised or not, Like, what's your reaction to the Chiefs 582 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: season today? 583 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: Well, I think that should be a total surprise, just 584 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 5: because the roster just hasn't, you know, offensively been where 585 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 5: it needs to be, and they've tried a lot of different. 586 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: You know, guys in terms of playmakers, they just haven't 587 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 5: hit the right struck the right cord really since Tyreek 588 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 5: Hill left. And they've had enough with Kelsey and a dominant, 589 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 5: dominant defense that they were able to overcome it. And 590 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 5: now that the defense has taken a little bit of 591 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 5: a step back and isn't quite at that elite level, 592 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 5: they're finding themselves losing a ton of these close games, 593 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 5: low scoring close games. So you know, it's not that 594 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 5: to me, is a little bit of just the failure 595 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 5: of trying to put the right skill pieces around him. 596 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 5: They don't catch the ball while they drop a bazillion ball, 597 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: so there's it's not a total surprise. I also think 598 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 5: it's just, you know, we talked about a team that 599 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 5: goes to the super Bowl one year, and that's fatigue 600 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 5: that you have the following year. I mean, they have 601 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 5: made deep runs in the last ever since he came 602 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 5: into the league, they've made a deep run. So it 603 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 5: looks like a little older, a little tired group at 604 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: this point in time. 605 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Does it Does it in any way make the Patriots 606 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: look better? Because the Patriots did not have one of 607 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: these falloffs right the year they didn't make the playoffs. 608 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Was when Matt Kassel was their quarterback and Brady was hurt. 609 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: They still want eleven games that year. Does this in 610 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: any way make that Patriots run even more impressive? 611 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 5: Not for me, just because that was the that was 612 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: the worst division outside of the Patriots for so long. 613 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: And the Chiefs look up and you've got the Chargers 614 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: in the playoffs last year, likely this year, the Broncos 615 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 5: last year, likely this year. Now the Raiders suck, But 616 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 5: you've got two other high caliber organizations in your division 617 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 5: right now. I just thought the Patriots it was they 618 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 5: were playing the JV schedule inside their own division for 619 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 5: so many years. 620 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Radio, speaking of 621 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: that division. The Dolphins have quietly become kind of decent, 622 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: right the five hundred reasonable finish for the season, and like. 623 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: There's two levels to it. 624 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: One, didn't they get rid of the bad culture guys? 625 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 5: Right? 626 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey gone, Tyreek hillgne Oh my gosh. They're actually 627 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: a decent football team now. And I guess the question 628 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: is what do they do moving forward? New GM? New 629 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: GM's coming, But you still have the quarterback and coach 630 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: under contract. 631 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you're going to see the quarterback 632 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 5: and the coach back. You know, that's the way it 633 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: looks to me, the way that it's kind of turned 634 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: this thing around, and then see what they can do 635 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 5: in this next offseason to see if they can't improve 636 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 5: on where they are. But yeah, you know, when you 637 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 5: look at the draft where I am in the process 638 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: right now, I don't get blown away with the overall 639 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 5: depth and quality of the quarterback class. So I think 640 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 5: you're running it back with Tua and you're hoping that 641 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 5: this little late season magic that they've found, really with 642 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 5: the run game being cranked up as a key part 643 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 5: of that, you're hoping that that's going to carry forward 644 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 5: into next year. And you look inside that division now, 645 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 5: and you know, you got two of the better teams 646 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 5: in the AFC with New England in Buffalo. The Jets 647 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 5: haven't quite figured it out, but it's still a tall 648 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 5: order for them to get over those other two teams 649 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: with where they are right now. But I think they're 650 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 5: going to give this construction in terms of the head 651 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 5: coach and the quarterback one more crack at it. 652 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm kind of tight on time, But which team did 653 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: your opinion change on more Bears or Packers after that game? 654 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 5: I won't give you a long answer. I came away 655 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 5: feeling like these are two of the best teams in 656 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 5: the conference, and I think Roma Dunes say they get 657 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 5: him back with Chicago that to really help. But I 658 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 5: was very impressed with the overall speed of that defense 659 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,479 Speaker 5: in Green Bay and Jordan Love made throws, so I 660 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 5: was impressed with both of them. 661 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, you can check out the Move the Sticks 662 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: podcast or on the NFL Network or hearing Whinny call 663 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: us our Lightning Bolts getting big wins on Monday Night 664 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: Football DJ, You're the best. Thanks for joining us, Bud, 665 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Buddy, stug Gottlieb Show. 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Uh, if you listen to the podcast, 677 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: you can't hear the bumper music. It's Charlie Brown music. 678 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: If you listen to on the radio show, I still 679 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: like Charlie. You guys still like Charlie Brown Christmas? 680 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: Now? 681 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: Is it a different one where they go to go 682 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: to the chateau in Paris? Is that a different Charlie 683 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: Brown Christmas or I'm trying to remember. 684 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: It's been a minute. 685 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 3: I haven't watched it this year, but it will be 686 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: watched in the next few weeks. My son just he 687 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: does get a kick, He gets kick out of Snoopy. Yeah, 688 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: so I will give you an. 689 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: Update, Okay, because you guys you do know what I'm 690 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: talking about, right, Like, there's Charlie Brown Christmas. 691 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: I can't remember if which is the one where they 692 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: are overseas. 693 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 7: Sources are telling me, Doug the a the you said 694 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 7: chateau in France. Yeah, that is not not a part 695 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 7: of the Charlie Brown Christmas Special, Okay? 696 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: Is it Charlie Brown chateau or something? Maybe bon Voyage 697 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: Charlie Brown, that's where it is. Bon Voyage Charlie Brown. 698 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: There you go, because they have the Thanksgiving one, the bon. 699 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: Voyage, and the Halloween one. 700 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 8: Two. 701 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the great punkin Charlie Brown. That was 702 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 7: from Vince Vince Vince Giraldi. 703 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 3: Is that did all that? 704 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: The piano based Christmas music for Charlie Brown. 705 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: And let's get to the press, the press, Dan Byer, 706 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: give me the hottest topics and sports. 707 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: So Adam Schefter just quote retweeted a tweet sent out 708 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: by Stephen Holder, who covers the NFL and the Colts 709 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 3: for ESPN. Holder is saying that if you've watched the 710 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: last two days in practice, you would come away thinking 711 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: that Philip Rivers is prepping to start against the Seahawks 712 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 3: on Sunday. In his words, it isn't difficult to tell 713 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 3: who a team is prepping to start. That player is 714 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: Rivers here, do pr I'm just gonna tell you right now, 715 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 3: I love Philip Rivers. Do I think Justin Herbert's better? 716 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 6: Like? 717 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the fact that he can move and 718 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: not just And you know, but if you've ever met 719 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and been blessed enough to talk football with him, 720 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: it's impossible not to root for that guy. 721 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: I believe that. 722 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 8: Jason Stewart, I know you listen to the end of 723 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 8: Bones podcast every day down, but I just want for 724 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 8: the listeners that don't. My opinion is that Philip Rivers 725 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 8: should not have taken seventeen. I think he literally put 726 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 8: insults injury by taking the number of the guy that 727 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 8: just ruined his achilles forty eight hours earlier. He could 728 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 8: have picked any other number. There is only gonna be 729 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 8: for three weeks. Doug does not feel as passionate as 730 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 8: I do. Where do you wand on this? 731 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: I think that Rivers had it first, should have taken seventeen, 732 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: Like yeah, Guy's right, Yeah. 733 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: That that's like the classic. It was mine first. 734 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: I remember having arguments with my brother and sister and 735 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: I usually lost an argument, but that was my argument. 736 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 3: I would also say this, like the marketing in Philip Rivers. 737 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: If he would what does he does he have ten kids? 738 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: Like if you would have wornd ten, anybody who had 739 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: a Philip Rivers ten Colts Jersey would have been for 740 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 3: those these four games. I love that, which would be 741 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 3: very rare, like ten years from now, you'd be like, 742 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: you see that guy that River's Colts jersey wearing number ten. 743 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: Is he a grandpa? I forget didn't didn't we report 744 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 2: that story? 745 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: Yes? 746 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 2: Is he the first grandpa to ever played? Quarta Stark Star. 747 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 3: Quarterback Kavina and Rich said Brett Farv was so Farv 748 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: was a grandpa when he played at the end of 749 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: his career. 750 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 8: Did you guys see the tweet by Stefan Diggs? He 751 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 8: saw the story where Philip Rivers has ten kids and 752 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 8: Stefon Diggs quote tweeted at saying why would you have 753 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 8: all your kids with the same person? 754 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 3: That was a parody account. 755 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: What's the guy's name who keeps doing the the the 756 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: insider reports? But it's O they're all fake? 757 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 3: The is it Wesley Steinberg? Is that that's one of them? 758 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: There's one of them. 759 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: There's a couple of them. There's a college basketball one 760 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 3: as well, one that said you got suspended from the 761 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: radio show for a week. Yes, with that one, Yeah, 762 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: we knew that was fake as well. Steelers edge rusher TJ. 763 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: Watt spent the night at a Pittsburgh hospital after experiencing 764 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 3: this comfort with his lung in practice on Wednesday. The 765 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 3: team says his status for Monday's game against the Dolphins 766 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 3: is not known. 767 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: That would be Stella, right. He he coomes out in 768 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: like sex quarterback. He's got like the hospital bracelets still 769 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: on one long and I still got you. But that 770 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: scary stuff when you can't bring itt to the hospital. 771 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. 772 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 3: I've never seen an injury like parentheses lung never. 773 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, at least I had something called it's a lung 774 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 8: thing yep. And it makes you very uncomfortable. My guess 775 00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 8: is that it's ploris. 776 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: You kind of have general pleuracy. You make people uncomfortable 777 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: often the. 778 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 3: LA Bowl made people uncomfortable. But after six years, it's 779 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: coming to an end. Your buddy, Brett McMurphy for On 780 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: three says there are no plans to renew the contract 781 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: of the Bowl. That will end after six years. It'll 782 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 3: end Saturday with Washington taking on Boise States. Hey, what 783 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: was kids pour one out in La? It was in 784 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 3: Orange County? Was the California Bowl? 785 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: Was there was a Freedom Bowl at Freedom Ble He 786 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: used to be the Freedom Bowl at Anheim Stadium. And 787 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: that is the press bag it out there and press 788 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: that was the press all right? Check out the end 789 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 1: the bonus podcast. Uh, Jay Stu and I talk about 790 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: this Shroon Moore thing at at length, at nauseum really, 791 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: but kind of get deeper into it. Download it wherever 792 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: you download podcast type been Doug Gottlieb Show, This is 793 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sport Tridio