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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: I I'm so live on a matchup Thursday issue of

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Brown's Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the

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Speaker 2: great z How you living, buddy, fifty and warm light

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Speaker 2: over here.

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Speaker 3: I don't have a light gibe. I don't have a

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Speaker 3: light on this new studio. I was trying.

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Speaker 4: I was trying to give you.

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Speaker 2: I do like give a signal. You can't see me

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Speaker 2: on the zoom today, but I do like give me signal,

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Speaker 2: zoom signal.

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Speaker 3: That's at all quite conspicuous. That's something. This weather is great.

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Speaker 3: It's great, perfect bum that we endure. We endured everything

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Speaker 3: we endured, and then now we're not gonna get a

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Speaker 3: white Christmas. So that bummo, we're not. That bumms me

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Speaker 3: out bigley greatly. But here we go. Here we are

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Speaker 3: Elbude sixteen today, come on on his way right now,

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Speaker 3: so look out on the roads. On his way right

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Speaker 3: now to go get his license.

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Speaker 4: Like the actual license or like the temporary He's sixteen, gibe,

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Speaker 4: So I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: I don't know when around here? When can you drive?

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Speaker 2: Like I couldn't go.

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Speaker 4: Get my text till I was sixteen in the state

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Speaker 4: of Ohio. No, clearly that.

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Speaker 2: Whole license at sixteen not true?

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Speaker 4: Yes, you were not here.

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Speaker 3: You could drive at sixteen, dude, Maybe you had special

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Speaker 3: rules because literally like you like you had you had

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Speaker 3: the classroom portion done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, were to turn in sixteen and at sixteen you

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Speaker 4: got your tempts. Wow, that is clearly changed here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, jeration, I think I want to think that you

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Speaker 3: would have that correct. But you also stood on the

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Speaker 3: table for Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Night tape also fact, that's fact.

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Speaker 3: You also said that I don't know this it was

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears and that your coach here candidate was

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson. So it's hard to know.

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Speaker 2: He covers his base.

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Speaker 4: He will always leave him wanting more.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys remember about when you got your

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Speaker 2: first when you got your license, the day you went

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Speaker 2: to get it, What do.

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Speaker 3: I remember about it? So this says in Ohio teens

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Speaker 3: geta learns permit fifteen and a half and get their

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Speaker 3: license at age sixteen, which is that's exactly okay, it's

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Speaker 3: exactly right. I wonder when that changed. Maybe that changed

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Speaker 3: at some point. I'm going to dive deeper into this,

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Speaker 3: Gibbet and try to figure this out. That's fine.

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Speaker 4: When's the first time he's gonna be allowed to drive

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Speaker 4: with the female in the car, just the two of them?

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Speaker 2: Saturday?

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Speaker 3: I say, I think that enough from the says Gibbet

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Speaker 3: is correct. The law has changed. Go Gibbe, Golan, I

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Speaker 3: gotta tell you something. I don't know what you were

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Speaker 3: doing here.

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Speaker 4: If anybody's if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: The clod yeah going, he's got so he's got your back.

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Speaker 3: I mean in California, I know what it was in Montana,

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Speaker 3: California sixteen. I went in there on my birthday driver's license.

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Speaker 3: I'm driving.

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Speaker 2: So you could I mean, this is crazy. You could drive.

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Speaker 2: You could drive a farm vehicle at twelve in Montana,

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Speaker 2: so like I would drive semi truck full of grain

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Speaker 2: into town at like thirteen, fourteen. I want to say,

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Speaker 2: the learners permit you could get at fourteen and then

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Speaker 2: full driver's license at fifteen. I failed my driver's test.

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Speaker 2: The driving, the driving, barking. Yeah yeah, I mean I could.

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Speaker 2: this stuff. But I failed my driver's test. Here's how

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Speaker 2: it happened. I go to pull out of the courthouse.

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Speaker 2: You go to you go to the courthouse in Connrad, Montana,

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Speaker 2: and you go do the license. I go to make

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Speaker 2: a right out of the courthouse, and the street had

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Speaker 2: the other little nervy too, even though I'd been driving

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Speaker 2: pull this back around? And I said, I'm like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: and she's like, you're driving on the wrong side of

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Speaker 4: Oh, but I'm trying to do this right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I failed. I failed the driving part once,

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Speaker 2: you were sixteen, So then sixteen, I passed them all

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Speaker 2: before that got it all done. But then I panicked

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Speaker 2: when I moved to Ohio because you had to do

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Speaker 4: You can already miss like three or four, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not test taking.

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Speaker 2: You got to get like forty six out of fifty.

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Speaker 2: And when I moved to Ohio and seven, like when

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Speaker 2: I moved from Montana to Florida, they just transferred, but

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Speaker 2: then Florida, Ohio, you had to retake the test.

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Speaker 4: That's how Illinois to Ohio. And in Illinois there are

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Speaker 4: no rules other than if you can't drive being the

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Speaker 4: at least fifteen over the speed limit.

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Speaker 3: Fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, crazy, that's yeah.

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Speaker 4: Kevin just messaged the law changed in July of nineteen

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Speaker 3: There you go, man, that's wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe you're six.

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Speaker 4: It was like I was almost I was closer to

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Speaker 4: seventeen by the time I actually got my license. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And like to this day, I remind my kids, I said,

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Speaker 4: of these people that are giving you the driving test

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Speaker 4: for your license. They don't put on the seatbelt. You

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Speaker 4: have to ask, and if you don't, it's an automatic

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Speaker 2: Sorry sir, yep, yeah, wow, they definitely tried to trick you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was that's a scene. Well, good luck for real Boots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got I feel very confident, he's prepared, cautious.

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Speaker 4: Would you make him a dinner of noodles?

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Speaker 3: He did some Bukatini. Pukatina was the birthday pastave choice,

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Speaker 3: little Bookatina. Last night Easy came over. We had some

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Speaker 3: got some good guy obviously college news on Ard Andrea,

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Speaker 3: which will very cool share when she makes her final decision.

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Speaker 3: But it's nice to have some good options.

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Speaker 4: Can we do an official decision on the set, like

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Speaker 4: with like the hats, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I'll ask her if she wants to, I'll ask

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Speaker 3: her if she'd like to do that. We I mean

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Speaker 3: we could. It'll be the off season. We've got time,

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Speaker 3: so we'll see. We'll see. There are a couple of

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Speaker 3: good contenders though, good, very good contendent. That's exciting for

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Speaker 3: young art Andre.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very very exciting.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: I was posed a question this morning that I want

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Speaker 2: to post to the both. Well, let me do this.

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Speaker 2: Let me do the little bit of housework here. Firstly,

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Speaker 2: let's do a little bit of football back in practice today.

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Speaker 2: Miles back, Joel Botonio back, Tevin Jenkins back did not

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Speaker 2: practice today. Denzel chief Jack, Dylan Samson, Mike Hall. So

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Speaker 2: those are all dnps. Any of those sound off some

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Speaker 2: alarm bells other than what we already anticipated.

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Speaker 3: Doctor Zey, you don't know what the illness is, but

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Speaker 3: you'd image with an illness that can get you back

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Speaker 3: pretty quickly. And Denzel yesterday sounded optimistic. We'll see tomorrow

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Speaker 3: will be a big day for him. Less optimistic about

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Speaker 3: Najoku and Conklin and Dylan Samson. But hopefully you can

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Speaker 3: get Denzel back, because you know what we saw last

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Speaker 3: week is, you know, Miles Harden's played pretty well as

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Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see you, really, Denzel. Plus, Denzel's got

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Speaker 3: a little bit at stake here as well. So Denzel

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Speaker 3: has made history and that in each of his first

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Speaker 3: seven seasons, he's had at least ten passes defense and

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Speaker 3: two or more interceptions. Okay, this year he has one

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Speaker 3: interception and eight passes defense. So he's only got three

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Speaker 3: games left to keep that street going. That's the longest

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Speaker 3: would like to see him get that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, track down a little bit, I mean. And

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Speaker 2: so he currently holds the record.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for the longest streak, such streak to start your career.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so he needs to tack on that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Would be nice if he could, it would be very nice.

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Speaker 2: Here in the last three games. As for Buffalo, they

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Speaker 2: opened the twenty one day window for Nicole Hardman. He

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Speaker 2: was limited yesterday, not practicing over in Buffalo. All three

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Speaker 2: to run this by you. So you remember yesterday or

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Speaker 2: maybe was it Tuesday when I had the Four Christmases take? Yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday, Okay, Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the four Christmases Take. So someone hit me up in

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Speaker 2: a mail bag the following question, and I thought it

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Speaker 2: was built for the two of you. Okay, The email

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Speaker 2: said mention that Four Christmas Is Past Love actually is

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Speaker 2: your favorite adult Christmas movie got me thinking. Three actors

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Speaker 2: who made their name in adult comedies also made iconic

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Speaker 2: Christmas movies. Vince Vaughn, as mentioned, Will Ferrell, Elf and

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Speaker 2: then of course a Litany Chevy Chase. You can only

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Speaker 2: have the library of one and none of the library

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Speaker 2: of the others. Which do you choose?

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Speaker 3: So you can have the.

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Speaker 2: Vaughn library, the Feral library, or the chevy Chase library.

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Speaker 2: Now I think I mean Anchorman is clearly a Feral vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Wedding Crashes is clearly a Vaughn vehicle. But you'd get them.

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Speaker 2: The only one they share is old School, where it's

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Speaker 3: Both of the I mean, he's still in wedding crashers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't no, no, yeah, you get that,

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Speaker 2: but you don't get yeah that but but yeah, you

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Speaker 2: would still get those.

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Speaker 3: You get old Yeah, you get a great many things

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Speaker 3: with So I'm an Aryl.

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Speaker 2: Vonda Chase, and you cannot watch any if of the

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Speaker 2: ones you don't choose, you don't get any of it.

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Speaker 3: The only thing that I watch with and I do

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Speaker 3: love Fletch, but the only thing that I watch with

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Speaker 3: any regularity from the Chevy Chase catalog is Christmas Vacation.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 4: What about Caddyshack?

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Speaker 2: There you go?

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Speaker 4: What is That's what I was waiting for.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that was I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 3: Was ready not true?

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true.

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Speaker 4: I'm going the Feral catalog.

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Speaker 3: I still think I'd probably take the Feral catalog.

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Speaker 3: Those are staples. No, those are movies that I watch

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Speaker 2: My favorite day. Now, Chase, isn't it anything in thirty

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Speaker 3: I can't believe I totally dropped on Caddy Shack? So

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Speaker 3: Why can't I say? Why can't I say? I should

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Speaker 3: be able to watch Caddyshack then, because caddy Shack is

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Speaker 2: It's those three.

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Speaker 2: No, that's that's that is that is do that is

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Speaker 3: It's every at Owen Wilson vehicle.

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Speaker 3: I said, they're on the same level. But that does

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't not have Caddy Shack or Chris's vacation

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I could not have Wedding Crashers.

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Speaker 2: I mean in Swingers was a seminal movie for me

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Speaker 3: That's that's a good Wings is a great movie.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I I mean, I don't I

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Speaker 3: On Swingers. He stole the show on Swingers. But that's

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Speaker 3: a Favreau vehicle. That is not vehicle, that's they're both,

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Speaker 3: that's dual bid Fare is one hundred percent the main

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Speaker 2: It's it's okay, that's semantics. But if it's sixty percent fabro,

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Speaker 3: It's all that's show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his show. Yeah, yeah, some good I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's literally his face. It's him doing the toast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing the toast exactly.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a good one and I thought

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Speaker 3: So in the caddy Shack, the original Caddyshack poster, it

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Speaker 3: in the back is Chevy. Then there's the other version

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Speaker 3: that is a movie. That's the movie poster, the original

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Speaker 3: all stuck in a golf hole together, the nineteenth toll

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Speaker 3: in front of the clubhouses in the background, and that's

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Speaker 3: got Chase in the front, Murray in the back, Dangerfield

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like to be able to keep Caddyshack.

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Speaker 3: If I could keep Caddyshack somehow, I could be fine

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Speaker 3: with going with Farrell or Vaughn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta keep Cads.

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Speaker 3: I cannot have Chases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's no way to separate Chase from Caddyshack.

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Speaker 2: There's no way you can't do it.

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Speaker 4: Who's getting old score, We're separating that.

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Speaker 2: That's a split pred you can get it. That goes both.

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Speaker 2: In my view, that goes both because they're equal. Build Okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this Caddy Shack is written. The

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Speaker 3: Danny Noonan played by Down on his Luck works as

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Speaker 2: don't know that anybody thinks of Danny Noonan as a

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Speaker 3: Even on he doesn't even get any poster react.

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Speaker 2: Now it's those four, I don't I would bet that

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Chase, Murray Smiles, and Dangerfield. I would bet

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Speaker 3: I think you're exactly right.

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Speaker 5: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: Is there a comp to Josh Allen that you can

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Speaker 7: Tingston plays a run is prevalent in the league. But

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Speaker 6: Is there something you shouldn't draw? Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 8: Steve was a little bit shorter, but reminds me of

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Speaker 8: that was you know three five is good run defense,

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Speaker 8: but the consistency of getting three in four and five.

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Speaker 8: We had a couple of streaks against Chicago where we

439
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Speaker 8: lost like four snaps in a row, five snaps in

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Speaker 8: a row, and on those eighty yard touchdown runs. And

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Speaker 8: you if you allow a team to run the ball

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Speaker 8: that way, then you know they're going to be able

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Speaker 8: to control the game. So I'd probably say that's that's

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Speaker 8: probably the biggest, the biggest thing for us.

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Speaker 10: But everybody's got injuries and you have to play Jim,

446
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Speaker 10: But how much do you miss cant out yesterday? It

447
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Speaker 10: sound like he's gonna plan a way to week. What

448
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Speaker 10: a difference could he make.

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Speaker 8: If you do when coming Well, he's one of the

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Speaker 8: best corners in the NFL, So you know, I mean,

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Speaker 8: you know, certainly, you know, having a guy like out

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Speaker 8: there not only helps in the past game, but also

453
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Speaker 8: can affect a run game just because of his ability

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Speaker 8: to cover allows.

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Speaker 6: You to devote more resources to the run. Right.

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Speaker 8: But you know, guys that can't play, I mean, that's

457
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Speaker 8: that's part of the business. And you know, the other

458
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Speaker 8: guys have to step up. We have to come up

459
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Speaker 8: with a good, good plan for them, you know, you know,

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Speaker 8: I think we also, like we see how valuable Malik

461
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Speaker 8: was to the middle of our defense, penetrating, rushing the passer,

462
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Speaker 8: tackles for losses, those kind of things, and we need

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Speaker 8: some other guys.

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Speaker 6: We've had a couple of injuries there.

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Speaker 8: Aiden's been out for a little while and you know,

466
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Speaker 8: a bunch of different stuff there, and Mason's been sort

467
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Speaker 8: of banged up a little bit, but he's been soldiering through.

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Speaker 6: But we need to replace that production.

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Speaker 11: Also, file scared of the fact that, you guys, whenever

470
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Speaker 11: we talk to defensive guys, they're all excited to rally

471
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Speaker 11: around him and help him try to get this record

472
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Speaker 11: and all that. The fact that he is getting so

473
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Speaker 11: close to it does that kind of add some excitement

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Speaker 11: to your unit and give you guys something.

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Speaker 12: To rally around and play for.

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Speaker 8: I mean, as soon as he was with him five,

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Speaker 8: we all thought he could he could do it in

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Speaker 8: that game. I mean, because he's done that before. So

479
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Speaker 8: you know, I mean, you know that that just is

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Speaker 8: that just is what it is. But I'd say this,

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Speaker 8: and this goes back to the theme that Jeff and

482
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Speaker 8: Tony were talking about, Like nobody ever sacked a run play,

483
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Speaker 8: you know, and you know, you can get tackles for

484
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Speaker 8: losses and they can affect the game the same way

485
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Speaker 8: a sack for four, tackle for loss for four second

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Speaker 8: and fourteen you.

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Speaker 6: Know, good.

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Speaker 8: But like if if, if we don't consistently stop the

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Speaker 8: run game, if we don't throw teams into second and

490
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Speaker 8: long situations and third and long situations, it makes it

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Speaker 8: hard to rush to passer. So we have to do

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Speaker 8: our part in there. We have to you know, we

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Speaker 8: have to get like you know, last week we saw

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Speaker 8: third down, we saw screens, you know, we saw stuff

495
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Speaker 8: like that. Because everybody knows what our what our strengths

496
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Speaker 8: are and how they try to combat that. And it's

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Speaker 8: up to us defensively, both individually in scheme and you know,

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Speaker 8: in all eleven to force teams to be able to

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Speaker 8: have to drop back and pass, which would which would

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Speaker 8: help Miles, right, you know, I mean if if if

501
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Speaker 8: Buffalo comes out and runs a six sixty times, you're

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Speaker 8: not gonna get any sacks, you know if if you know,

503
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Speaker 8: if he gets a lot of opportunities, his success rate

504
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Speaker 8: is pretty high. And you know, we're pretty good pass

505
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Speaker 8: rush team. So I like those odds.

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Speaker 6: But all ties back and and that's the message.

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Speaker 8: That's the message we have is we gotta we got

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Speaker 8: to force teams to drop back and throw and don't

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Speaker 8: let them control the game with the run game.

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Speaker 2: All right, Keys, massive task this week as the reigning

511
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Speaker 2: most valuable player of this league is at the controls

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Speaker 2: for the Buffalo Bills offense. He's, of course, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: He might win it again, still three weeks to make

514
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Speaker 2: his case. Here he is at the podium behind enemy lines.

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Speaker 12: Miles Garrett does have a chance at setting the all time.

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Speaker 13: Record for you to be a quarterback that that record

517
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Speaker 13: would need to be set against.

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Speaker 14: Have you thought about it at all?

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Speaker 15: No, I haven't thought about it. I do like highlight tapes,

520
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Speaker 15: but I don't like being a part of other people's

521
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Speaker 15: highlight tapes. I mean, he's an absolutely tremendous football player.

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Speaker 15: He's one of the greatest of all times. And yeah,

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Speaker 15: I mean he's he's a force to be reckoned with,

524
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Speaker 15: and we got to be ready for everything that they

525
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Speaker 15: can throw at us. But you have to be aware

526
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Speaker 15: of we're ninety five's out at all times about.

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Speaker 3: His style of play. He's just what he's able to do.

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Speaker 15: I mean, he's the biggest guy out there, is the

529
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Speaker 15: fastest guy out there. His ability to get off box,

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Speaker 15: his motor is higher than really anybody else that you'll

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Speaker 15: ever play. He can beat you with speed and power.

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Speaker 15: I mean, he's just the all around football player.

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Speaker 5: Get in the field room.

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Speaker 16: To start Petting's defense and Miles, is there anything watching him.

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Speaker 6: A little bit exterest closely if it's supplied to.

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Speaker 15: I wouldn't say him specifically. We all know how great

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Speaker 15: he is. But he's not the only guy that they got.

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Speaker 15: You know, they they've they've got a really really great unit,

539
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Speaker 15: got a really good secondary. You know, two of the

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Speaker 15: top corners in the league. They got one of the

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Speaker 15: best you know rookies playing their their linebacker position. So yeah,

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Speaker 15: you gotta be like I said, all hands on deck,

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Speaker 15: and it's gonna take every single guy to go out

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Speaker 15: there and accomplish what we need to accomplish.

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Speaker 12: But the downfield passing against the Patriots have changed so

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Speaker 12: much first out to second half. I know there was

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Speaker 12: a lot that goes into it, and I want to

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Speaker 12: say it was like two point two yard our air

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Speaker 12: yards to nine pot four or something. Just what went

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Speaker 12: into that getting the downfield game going later in the game.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, guys, just trusting what Joe's calling myself, trusting my

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Speaker 15: feet and my eyes and giving guys opportunities to go

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Speaker 15: make some plays. And you saw that in the second half.

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Speaker 12: In every game, however, the defense allows. But what can

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Speaker 12: happen when that downfield passing game is going.

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Speaker 15: I mean it just it forces teams to to really

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Speaker 15: think about, you know, every every inch of turf fed

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Speaker 15: on that field. When we can get the deep again,

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Speaker 15: that's that's when you're a pretty dangerous offense. Is when

560
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Speaker 15: you can run the ball, you can attack the short

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Speaker 15: and intermediate game, and then you also have to worry

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Speaker 15: about some of the deep throws. And you know, we're

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Speaker 15: still still working on that. I'm still working on that,

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Speaker 15: and it's something that I'm looking forward to continue working

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Speaker 15: on this week. And you know, if the opportunities to

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Speaker 15: present themself, you know, have to take advantage of them.

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Speaker 3: Guys are down twenty four to seventy from on the.

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Speaker 14: Second half, start to kind.

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Speaker 6: Of get back into the game. What's Sean McDermott life

570
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Speaker 6: robs like that?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I think he fully trusts his team. You know,

572
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Speaker 15: he really allows us to have the keys to to

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Speaker 15: drive this ship. And he's very calm, you know, but

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Speaker 15: he's also very uh you know, supporting, i would say,

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Speaker 15: and going out there and giving us, like I said,

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Speaker 15: the reins to to go be ourselves and play the

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Speaker 15: game of football free.

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Speaker 16: That you live in a world now with defenses are

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Speaker 16: so complex, if you just go through progressions, you'll be okay.

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Speaker 16: You don't have to worry about post snap all the

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Speaker 16: different things that happen. Have you seen that kind of

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Speaker 16: where defense is just trying so many different things. You

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Speaker 16: just have to kind of trust your guys if people

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Speaker 16: are supposed to be to go through your progressions to

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Speaker 16: get there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: I mean you can have a plan going into into

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Speaker 15: the game and watch every evidence of film that you

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Speaker 15: want to watch, and once you get into the game

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Speaker 15: and defenses, you know, are are doing different things and

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Speaker 15: you haven't seen on film and kind of throwing stuff

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Speaker 15: at the wall and seeing what sticks. And I feel

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Speaker 15: like that's when, honestly, when we play at our best

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Speaker 15: is when we're not really caring so much about what

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Speaker 15: they're doing.

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Speaker 2: We're calling our.

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Speaker 15: Plays and we're doing what we need to do and

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Speaker 15: focusing more on ourselves than what they're doing, because again,

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Speaker 15: we've got guys that are extremely smart that can find

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Speaker 15: spots and zones. When we can run the ball extremely

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Speaker 15: well with James Cook, it opens up so many different

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Speaker 15: opportunities for us. And yeah, I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 15: just trusting the confines of what Joe and the staff

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Speaker 15: have put in throughout the week and just going out

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Speaker 15: there next scooting each each and ever given play awesome

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Speaker 15: thing as.

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Speaker 2: A time for our matchup, it is the Browns defense

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Speaker 2: versus the Buffalo Bills offense. Garrett Allen, you could argue

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Speaker 2: to the best offense and defensive player in the game.

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Speaker 3: Here's Duc de Zie. The Bills are real good. This

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Speaker 3: is a darn good offense. Number one rushing offense, number three,

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Speaker 3: total offense, number three, scoring offense, number one in time

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Speaker 3: of possession. They generate the fourth most first downs per game.

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Speaker 3: They are number three in goal to go situations. They're

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Speaker 3: number four on third downs. This is just a dominant,

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Speaker 3: dominant offense. They've got two Pro Bowlers on the offensive line,

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Speaker 3: Dion Dawkins and Connor McGovern. They've got Josh Allen. They've

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Speaker 3: got James Cook right now, who has got a career

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Speaker 3: high this season. He's got in terms of total yards

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Speaker 3: already sixteen hundred and eighty six, twelve touchdowns. He's got

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Speaker 3: eleven games already this year with one hundred scrimmage yards.

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Speaker 3: That's the most in the NFL. And then there's Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: who has been sensational twenty five touchdowns passing. He's got

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Speaker 3: another twelve touchdowns rushing. He's already accounted for over basically

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Speaker 3: right around thirty eight hundred yards of offense and thirty

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Speaker 3: seven touchdowns. Rating is one hundred and four point three,

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Speaker 3: and Josh Allen is one touchdown away from doing some

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Speaker 3: pretty incredible things. He will become the youngest player by

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Speaker 3: two years to reach three hundred career offensive touchdowns in

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Speaker 3: NFL history. The previous was Peyton Manning thirty one years,

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Speaker 3: two hundred twelve days, Dan Marino thirty one years, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty two days, Russell Wilson thirty two years,

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Speaker 3: three hundred twelve days. He will do it at twenty

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Speaker 3: nine years, two hundred and fourteen days. He will also

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Speaker 3: become in terms of games played, the fastest to three

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Speaker 3: hundred career offensive touchdowns. The previous best was Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty four games. Josh Allen will do

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Speaker 3: it in one hundred and twenty six games.

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Speaker 9: Geez.

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Speaker 3: So they are that's what they do. They are incredible.

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Speaker 3: They don't really have a number one receiver. Khalil Shakier

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Speaker 3: leads the team in both catches and yards. Dalton kin Kaid,

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Speaker 3: who's probably hurt with a knee injury, left last week.

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Speaker 3: He leads the team in receiving touchdowns. But they are

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Speaker 3: just a very very good offense, and they just find

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Speaker 3: ways to keep drives going and to run offensive plays.

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Speaker 3: And that's why they possess it for thirty three minutes

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Speaker 3: a game on average. This is going to be a

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Speaker 3: tall test. Our run defense of the last few weeks

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Speaker 3: has been not what it was early in the season,

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Speaker 3: and so the Browns have their hands full. It is

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Speaker 3: the number one passing defense and the number three total

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Speaker 3: defense against the number you know, three overall offense. So

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Speaker 3: we got to see if we can slow them down

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Speaker 3: that way. But the ground game and Low's explosives, that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be key. The Browns cannot allow those explosives on

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Speaker 3: the ground or explosives through the air really and try

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Speaker 3: to get after josh An has been sacked thirty three

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Speaker 3: times in fourteen games this year, just about two and

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Speaker 3: a half a game. Got to try to get him

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Speaker 3: on the ground. What's wild is the year before he's

665
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Speaker 3: only sacked like sixteen times the whole season, So he's

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Speaker 3: getting sacked a little bit more this year. But this

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Speaker 3: is gonna be a tough one. This would be a

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Speaker 3: tough one. This is a big, strong offensive line. They

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Speaker 3: run the ball really effectively. They're not afraid to use

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Speaker 3: multiple tight ends, they're not afraid to use a fullback

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Speaker 3: Reggie Gilliam, and they can run it. James Cook right

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Speaker 3: now trails Jonathan Taylor and Johnthan Taylor was you know

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Speaker 3: for a while they're talking about maybe an MVPs behind

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Speaker 3: him by the thirty yards. So this is a good offense.

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Speaker 3: This is a tough, tough test, and if we do

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Speaker 3: not have Denzel Ward, I think it makes it even

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Speaker 3: tougher in this game. But Miles is going to go

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Speaker 3: against a lot of Dion Dawkins. On the other side.

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00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 3: They got Spencer Brown and you know, or one sack

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Speaker 3: away from tying the record, one and a half from

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Speaker 3: breaking it, and you certainly would like to see that

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Speaker 3: at home last week though for Miles only one tackle

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Speaker 3: for a loss, so still seven away with three games

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Speaker 3: to go from tying that record, eight away from breaking it.

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Speaker 2: When you met, I didn't consider like that. That was

686
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Speaker 2: an interesting stat about Allen with the quickest ever to

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Speaker 2: three hundred touchdowns or whatever was that? What it was

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00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: total offensive touchdowns, so that they started because you had

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Speaker 2: Manning was one and whatever the record was and it

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Speaker 2: was age thirty one, so you said, well, obviously it's

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Speaker 2: the rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: So then you pull it up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got seventy seven rushing touchdowns in his career.

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Speaker 3: Seventy seven crazy, crazy, twelve or more and three straight seasons.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the part I was going to make is

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Speaker 2: it's really usually with quarterbacks who score with their feet,

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Speaker 2: it usually comes earlier in their career and then it

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: gets less. His is the opposite. I mean, he's fifteen, twelve,

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Speaker 2: twelve the last three years. His first season where he

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Speaker 2: had double digit Now he was always good. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's eight nine, eight, six, seven, but then it goes

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Speaker 2: all the way to fifteen and twenty three, twelve and

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Speaker 2: twenty four, twelve and twenty five already just rarely see

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Speaker 2: it go the other way.

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Speaker 3: He's about to He needs three more touchdowns the rest

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Speaker 3: of the season to tie Aaron Rodgers with six seasons

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Speaker 3: of forty or more offensive touchdowns. That's the most anybody's ever.

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Speaker 3: Rodgers has six, Allen's going to have six. Brady has four,

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Speaker 3: Mahomes three, Breeze three, and he's just getting going like

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Speaker 3: he will. He will he will put up a record

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Speaker 3: for that that is untouchable.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, yeah, and those and by the way,

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Speaker 2: and it hit me as we're doing this conversation about

714
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Speaker 2: the best defensive player in the game, probably the best

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Speaker 2: offensive player in the game. They they were in back

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Speaker 2: to back drafts and we had number one overall in both.

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Speaker 2: Now there was nobody clamoring for Josh in eighteen.

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Speaker 3: The friend of Dorsey was friend of Dorsey was remember

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Speaker 3: there was a.

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Speaker 2: Friend of Dorsey wasn't here then, but it was a

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Speaker 2: lot of sad.

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Speaker 3: There was a friend of Dorsey that supposedly Peter King

723
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Speaker 3: said that a friend of Dorsey, and that became like

724
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Speaker 3: a funny gimmick that wanted wanted Josh Allen. It just

725
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Speaker 3: that was it. But you know, you never know. Listen

726
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Speaker 3: Lamar went at the end of the first round in

727
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Speaker 3: that one, the first three quarterbacks taken, if I'm not mistaken,

728
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Speaker 3: were it went Baker, then darnld Arnold, then Alan, then Rosen.

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Speaker 2: Rosen was fourth, so Alan.

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Speaker 3: And Allen, then Rosen and then way way later was

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Speaker 3: Lamar Lamar. Yeah, that's why it's it's a hard it's

732
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Speaker 3: a hard it's a hard thing. And he's done a

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Speaker 3: great job. He's improved his completion percentage we talked about yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He's you know, he's actually playing better this year than

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Speaker 3: his MVP season. Despite what Mantiteo would lead you to

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Speaker 3: believe on Good Morning Footballer's like, we really haven't seen

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen. Geez, what do you mean I ever had

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Speaker 3: to do more? No, he's absolutely, You're exactly right. Their

739
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: defense is not as great, but yeah, he's he's unbelievable,

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Speaker 3: and James Cook is unbelievab in their homework. James Cook's

741
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Speaker 3: a home run hitter, like the guy is a home

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Speaker 3: run hitter. And so that's that's been kind of our

743
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Speaker 3: achilles heel, you know, certainly the last few weeks in

744
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Speaker 3: with the running game, and so we've got to make

745
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Speaker 3: sure we don't let that happen in this game. This

746
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: is gonna be this is a tough one. Listen. You

747
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: are ten point dogs at home for it is. Yeah,

748
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Speaker 3: that's big in the end, that's monstrous. In the NFL,

749
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Speaker 3: like I think if we were in Buffalo, it would

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Speaker 3: be fourteen.

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Speaker 2: The biggest is Vegas. It's the Vegas game is fourteen

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Speaker 2: Vegas Houston. Yeah, I think it's like fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: Are we the second biggest.

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Speaker 3: Well, certainly because that's in that's in Houston, right, Yeah,

755
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: we're the biggest. We're one of the biggest road Dot

756
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 3: our home dogs of the year for sure.

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Speaker 2: around the league. DeVante Adams listed as doubtful for tonight's

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Speaker 2: huge game against the Seahawks. Boy, how about prime They

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Speaker 2: had Cowboys Lions two weeks ago and now they get

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good one. That it is massive, is

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Speaker 3: a good one.

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Speaker 2: I think he's calling. He's definitely calling two.

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Speaker 3: Run him down his schedule.

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Speaker 4: So he's doing Thursday night football. Yeah, they will land

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Speaker 4: in Norman, Oklahoma, around five am Friday morning. They have

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Speaker 4: a two hour game day, and then he has to

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Speaker 4: call the game tomorrow night Oklahoma Alabama, and then they're

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Speaker 4: flying to Texas.

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Speaker 2: No way.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they get at at two am Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: He's doing the noon game.

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Speaker 4: I don't think actually eleven am he's not doing. I

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Speaker 4: don't think he's doing the game. I think he's doing

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Speaker 4: the three hour game day because there's a there's a

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Speaker 4: three hour game day today morning.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you how can you? He is great,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know how you could be good at all.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't matter how much prep time. Now, that's a

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Speaker 4: lot to consume.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's that's that's craziness to try to do

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Speaker 2: all of that.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I also think college football. I know they wanted to

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Speaker 2: stay away from the NFL, but that is criminal. To

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Speaker 2: make Texas A and m play at eleven o'clock am

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Speaker 2: local against Miami.

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Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. That's tough.

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Speaker 2: Just play it at night. And if you don't have

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Speaker 2: the audience because you're losing the NFL in some markets, fine,

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00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: the people that care about A and M and Miami

807
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: is a massive audience. Anyway. It's not going to beat

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But that's okay. I just do what's right

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Speaker 2: by your sport. For once.

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Speaker 3: Agreed college football, Nate agrees concurs.

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Speaker 2: Colt's opening the twenty one day window for quarterback Anthony

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Speaker 2: Richardson as well. So there you go on that hard

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Speaker 2: to know if I mean they got three after you

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Speaker 2: got Rivers on Monday night against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Here we go Fantasy semifinals in most cases, Again, this

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Speaker 3: isn't You're not reinventing the wheel here. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: dancing with what brung you. For the most part. That's

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Speaker 3: the way that you approach this. Now, some people may

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Speaker 3: have lost, you know, you may have lost Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: So you need a quarterback. I like Jacoby Brissette. If

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Speaker 3: he's on the waiver wire against Atlanta, he should be

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Speaker 3: picked up because he's put up such big numbers everywhere.

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Speaker 3: But I think that he's somebody that you can start

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Speaker 3: this week. Trevor Lawrence is playing good ball, but Denver

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Speaker 3: don't like that matchup, so you might need to look

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Speaker 3: for somebody else. Kirk Cousins, we saw it last week.

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Speaker 3: Got a little longer week or prepare. Maybe get Drake

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Speaker 3: London back, you get Arizona. Tyler Shuck has put up

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Speaker 3: some decent numbers against the Jets, who are in nept

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Speaker 3: on offense, so they should possess the ball a lot

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Speaker 3: in that game. Running backs. Again, it's it's the guys

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Speaker 3: that you know now, guys who could potentially help you

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Speaker 3: out this week. Tyrone Tracy's been playing pretty well of late.

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Speaker 3: Woody Marks if he is good to go against the

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders is an excellent start. Michael Carter looks

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Speaker 3: like he's gonna have to be the bell cow for

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Speaker 3: Arizona this week, so he's somebody that potentially you could

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Speaker 3: pick up and you could play and get into your lineups.

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Speaker 3: You've got to look at, you know, Otter Ca estimate

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Speaker 3: potentially in New Orleans being the main man, there's the

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Speaker 3: kid Jordan who is with Houston that in the event,

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Speaker 3: in the event that Woody Marx can't play, that you

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Speaker 3: would play in that situation. Your receivers again, you know

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Speaker 3: who you're playing. Really, the one area where you can

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Speaker 3: kind of help yourself out here is defense. And for

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Speaker 3: some leagues that have big defense, it's unbelievable what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Our internet is very difficult to use. They can't even

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Speaker 3: cycle through to the defensive page. But I'm gonna try

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00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: to do it off top of my head. This week,

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Speaker 3: you got New Orleans, the Saints have the Jets. That's

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Speaker 3: a good matchup. Texans against Las Vegas is obvious the

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Speaker 3: best matchup. Kansas City gets Tennessee, but I think it's

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Speaker 3: the Saints that get the Jets. I like that matchup.

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Speaker 3: Vikings d has been pretty solid of late in terms

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Speaker 3: of turnovers. They get the Giants, So those would be

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Speaker 3: kind of some of the defenses I would be looking

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Speaker 3: at this week as well. And there you go, who's.

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Speaker 4: Bo Any of your boys still in Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah they I don't know what's going on with the

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Speaker 2: Bems's He's got some sort of a league where like

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Speaker 2: they're adding He's in an ESPN league and they're like

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Speaker 2: adding points from previous I don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 3: ESPN does two week playoff? Each round is two gross?

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Speaker 3: It sucks. It's ridiculous because then the the final week

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00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: of the Super Bowl is going to be week eighteen,

870
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 3: where you could have people sitting people who have buys

871
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 3: and it's I toltally.

872
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: I thought his thing was done. I'm like, you're done.

873
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm still in it. I'm like, this

874
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: is absurd. I've never seen such a stupid thing of

875
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: two week fantasy things. But apparently that's how ESPN does it.

876
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: So he's still in it and buy What are you

877
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 4: still in?

878
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: Oh yeah? Oh yeah, Me and s going for our

879
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: fourth title. Look at him, Get a little snack, a

880
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: little snack right there, Get a little snack. Oh tasty.

881
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: My villain, the one that I've been in for twenty

882
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: five years of in the semifinals, and it's it's it's

883
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: one that matters if you win. And the thing that

884
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: is interesting is and I really hate this spot. The

885
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: guy I'm playing in the semis buddy of mine have

886
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: known him for quarter century. He's got all Niners on

887
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: Sunday or Monday night, so he's got and he's got

888
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor. So he's got Jonathan Taylor, CMC Jennings. Like

889
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: all these guys going Monday night and I'm all done

890
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: by like eight o'clock Sunday.

891
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: It's the waiting game Monday Night. It's gonna be tense.

892
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tense. I hate every league matters for

893
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: the pride. That's why we play this game.

894
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

895
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: I just Ohio, I have I do have a question

896
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 4: from a listener, Ohio resident getting out ahead of ask

897
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 4: CBD need fantasy advice full point ppr RB two between

898
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: Kareem Pachecko, Michael Carter and a flex between Watson, Jay Reid,

899
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 4: and Jay Downs.

900
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: Watson has in Christian Watson, Yes, I think he might

901
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: be banged up, so I'd go Jane Reid of those three,

902
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: and then I'd probably go if Carter's starting in the

903
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: guy he'll put up bigger numbers than Kareem. Is completely

904
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: touchdown dependent to have a decent week and check they've

905
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: been dreadful. I don't expect that they're going to become

906
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: all of a sudden a better team without Patrick Mahomes.

907
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, I already have cmc McBride, Hurts, AJ

908
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 4: Brown and T mac already starting.

909
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: Well, that's good.

910
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: It's a nice little ross in a pretty good spot.

911
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, read yeah, I would go read on the

912
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 3: of the other three. They're starting to get like he's done.

913
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: He's done pretty well.

914
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, this is it? Man, Semifinals this week,

915
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Finals next week. I'd never heard the double week thing.

916
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: Is that standard for them?

917
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

918
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: That standard for the way ESPN does it, which I

919
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 3: think is I like it. On one hand, I like

920
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: it because it eliminates, you know, a one week or

921
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: where one injury could you know, cripple you and end

922
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: your season. But the timing of it is not great

923
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: and it ends up being I end up not liking it.

924
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: You'd almost have to start at the week before. I

925
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't want anything having to do with week eighteen.

926
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd have to start. I agree with you. You have

927
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: started a week before. And it also makes it impossible,

928
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: like you can only have four teams make an ESPN

929
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 3: playoff league, which is fine, I mean, not everybody deserves

930
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: to be in there. But most if you're in a

931
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: twelve team league, most leagues would have six people.

932
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: Make it the guy that runs are bored, the fabulous

933
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: Michael Boem on game days Boom shout out, Boom out

934
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: of nowhere bo Nicks or c J.

935
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: Stroud Bonexico or CJ against Vegas.

936
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: The problem with CJ is that he could end up

937
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: not having to throw it that much. But I like,

938
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: he's just back and forth. Today it's just back and

939
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: it's like conducting an orchestra. We just put a fit

940
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: bit my fit.

941
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: Beit what's the like, what's the outfit today?

942
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 3: A beautiful suit, brown leather, monks strafts that ended in

943
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: a Italian course. For sure, Yes, you got to.

944
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: Go next there, I think. Boom. I think so as well,

945
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: because you could have I mean that Houston thing could

946
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: be over in half and you're just running it. Yep,

947
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: so they got any think That's also what's tricky at

948
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: fourteen and a half in that one, which is makes

949
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 2: that one because you just don't know, Like I think

950
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 2: it'll be fine, but it's that's that's the other part

951
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: that's tricky with the game, with that big of a mismatch.

952
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: All right, second hour with the program Coming up next,

953
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: Ego's one on one with Rex Sunahara. You have that

954
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: to look forward to, which is very very nice. We'll

955
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: do the other side of the matchup though, coming up next,

956
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: our offense versus the Bills defense. You listen to cleveand

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966
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Speaker 2: that matchup, our offense versus the Buffalo Bill's defense. We

967
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968
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,840
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969
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: here's your offensive coordinator Tommy.

970
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 17: Reese performance against Chicago. What was the thing that maybe

971
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 17: then that game? I mean for all them bad. Maybe

972
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 17: that that you saw the positive step forward.

973
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 18: Now, yeah, well, I mean there were some explosive plays there,

974
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 18: Like I thought the third down, Ry hit IB down

975
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 18: the middle of the field. You know, the drop was

976
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 18: really good, the timing was good. That was a look

977
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 18: that we kind of had prepped forward, knewing how they

978
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 18: were going to play, and just felt like there was

979
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 18: a real improvement there on seeing the coverage, recognizing the

980
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 18: timing that it needed to come out on and making

981
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 18: that explosive. Had a good alert there on the post

982
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 18: IB versus zero stayed in the pocket through it on

983
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 18: time to a spot getting hit you know, evades the

984
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 18: rush well, you know is able to extend, and you

985
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 18: know there's always.

986
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 5: Positives to draw on.

987
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 18: You know, they don't always result, you know, drive home results,

988
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 18: but there's always things, little things within the game that

989
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 18: you're gonna have positives on and look to continue to

990
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 18: build upon. And then look, there's gonna be ups and downs,

991
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 18: and there's gonna be things that you want to coach.

992
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 18: That's certainly across the board for our players right now.

993
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 18: So it's import to find those both positive reinforcement things

994
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 18: that you're doing well and then find the areas that

995
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 18: we need to continue to improve on. But he's been

996
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 18: really good this week in terms of taking all that

997
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 18: in and being excited to go out and continue to

998
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 18: improve and continue to build upon the things that he's

999
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 18: doing well for us right now.

1000
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 9: Yesterday a lot about his completion percentage. It sounds like

1001
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 9: it's a teaching point he's been given. What's the problem there?

1002
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 9: He's twenty points down from college numbers. I know there's

1003
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 9: going to be a draw it off.

1004
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's different. You know,

1005
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 18: there's a different level, right and there's different types of

1006
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 18: throws you're being asked, I think for any young player,

1007
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 18: for any young quarterback, the adjustment of playing in this

1008
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 18: league of what is open versus what's not open?

1009
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 5: What does timing look like? Versus waiting on things?

1010
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 18: When is it time to try to extend versus taking

1011
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 18: what might be there? You know, the completion percentage is

1012
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 18: you know, we talked about the sack numbers very early

1013
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 18: in the year and talking about that's not solely on

1014
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 18: the offensive line, and talking about the run game not

1015
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 18: solely being on the offensive line. The completion percentage is

1016
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 18: also not solely on the quarterback. There's other areas where

1017
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 18: as an offensive unit we need to improve and help

1018
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 18: them out, and then there's some areas there where we

1019
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 18: can take completions and find completions that are accessible, and

1020
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 18: then we got to finish the play at other spots. So,

1021
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 18: you know, we want to be efficient, but we also

1022
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 18: want to be able to create explosives, which he's done

1023
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,479
Speaker 18: a nice job of and finding that balance is something

1024
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 18: as a young player that we're going to continue to

1025
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 18: work on with them.

1026
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 17: You look at the Bills deep their pass defend the

1027
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 17: second in the league, utilize their run name to help

1028
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 17: open up those opportunities in the past game and create

1029
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 17: that balance.

1030
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1031
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 18: Look, they do a lot of good things in coverage.

1032
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 18: They got veteran players in the back end that have

1033
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 18: been in that system a long time. Obviously head coach

1034
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 18: is a defensive back guy by trade, and they take

1035
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 18: a lot of pride, you know, and their ability to

1036
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 18: have a vary of coverage, to have disguise in their

1037
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 18: coverages and trying to keep you off balance. They do

1038
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 18: a really nice job there and they focus on coverage.

1039
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 18: You know, I think we have to find a balance.

1040
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 18: We have to find the ability to run the ball.

1041
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 18: You know, it's kind of been hot and cold for

1042
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 18: us throughout the year, and we got to really rely

1043
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 18: on that and find ways to get Q going and

1044
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 18: allow our allow our offense to be complimentary. Like when

1045
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 18: you can run the ball well, it really opens up

1046
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 18: a lot of things and you can stay efficient and

1047
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 18: it keeps you in better situations on third down. So

1048
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 18: definitely a huge point of emphasis for us.

1049
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 19: There's been a lot of commentary lately about like coverage

1050
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 19: versus progression reads kind of going on around the NFL lately. Yeah,

1051
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 19: I'm curious from like your perspective, especially having coach in

1052
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 19: college too, how do you what do you see from

1053
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 19: like a young quarterback and in terms of how do

1054
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 19: you teach that and how do you sort of how

1055
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 19: hard is that to sort of adjudgte from one to

1056
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 19: the other.

1057
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 18: Yeah, the progression thing is interesting because I think as

1058
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 18: soon as like McVeigh started talking about being in progressions,

1059
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 18: like Stafford's playing the league how long and if they're

1060
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 18: doing it, then you know, the adage with the progression

1061
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 18: read for a long time was like it's great for

1062
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 18: young players. You don't need to know the coverage or

1063
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 18: one two three, four, you're across the board.

1064
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 5: You know, I think that's all true.

1065
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 18: I think where you start to really see the success

1066
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 18: of it is like guys can eliminate progressions pretty quick

1067
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 18: based on coverage. So when you have a pretty good

1068
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 18: idea of coverage and you're in a progression read you

1069
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 18: can get to the right side of the progression pretty quickly.

1070
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 18: You know, when you play these teams that play a

1071
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 18: lot of coverages, it gives you answers versus what you

1072
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 18: could see instead of attacking a specific coverage. And then

1073
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 18: you know, when you're not sure because of disguise and

1074
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 18: you're trying to pick a side or play those types

1075
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 18: of past game concepts, then it's easier to say, we're

1076
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 18: going to starterrise on this defender and we're going to

1077
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 18: work through it. So look, there's a couple of different

1078
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 18: types of reed families that they have gone around, but certainly,

1079
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 18: you know with young players with guys that are veterans,

1080
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 18: you know, I think those still have a lot of

1081
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 18: merit of kind of having catch all for all the

1082
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 18: you know, defensive coaches are really good. They do a

1083
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 18: good job with their coverage packages, and you know, you

1084
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 18: want to have answers for your quarterback as often as possible.

1085
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 10: The fact that whinchup's getting hit behind the line is

1086
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 10: so often. And then why yesterday talked about, you know,

1087
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 10: facing six men up front, you gotta win all you

1088
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 10: won on the block. He's a play called how do

1089
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 10: you combat that when they're obviously.

1090
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 5: Trying to things to run.

1091
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 18: Yeah, we've got to be creative and ways to get

1092
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 18: Q going right, Like if they're gonna be heavy in

1093
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 18: certain areas, we got to find ways to to you know,

1094
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 18: access the part of the field where they're not. And

1095
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 18: you know, against Chicago kind of you start backed up

1096
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 18: and you go three and out and then you're you know,

1097
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 18: it's a there's a swing in the game there where

1098
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 18: all of a sudden, you know, you're you're off script,

1099
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 18: you're off openers, you're off you know, what you intended

1100
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 18: to be at. And we got to find ways even

1101
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 18: within those times to to continue to focus on, you know,

1102
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 18: allowing Q to He's created a lot of explosives for us,

1103
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 18: He's carried games for us, So finding ways to continue

1104
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 18: to have them, you know, impact the game.

1105
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 9: So your jumbo package was obviously affected by depth in Chicago.

1106
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 3: I mean you got.

1107
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 9: You got guys off the street. It's tough, I guess

1108
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 9: to integrate them into your jumbo pack, but you get

1109
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 9: the full.

1110
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: Back back now.

1111
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 5: You love Aiden Man.

1112
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 9: I just wondering if.

1113
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 7: That will help quick.

1114
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 18: Sean, Yeah, Aid, Like I've said, Aiden does a great

1115
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 18: job and the things that we ask him to do.

1116
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 18: You know, we've had some injury issues, we've had some

1117
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 18: depth issues. Tight end o line.

1118
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 20: You.

1119
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 18: I do think it helps our group. You know, we've

1120
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 18: been effective in that personnel grouping. He's Aiden's done a

1121
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 18: great job for us, and you know, I'm sure that

1122
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 18: breeds confidence into those situations for the rest of the group.

1123
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 18: You know, Aiden's got a lot of energy. Like he

1124
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 18: comes in the huddle, he's ready to go. He's hardheaded.

1125
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,919
Speaker 18: I mean, he definitely instills some juice into the group

1126
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 18: when he's on the field.

1127
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 5: So we're excited to have him back.

1128
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 18: He's provided a lot of value for us this season

1129
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 18: and it's good to get him back healthy for certain

1130
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 18: All good, Thanks guys.

1131
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: All right, for the other side of that matchup, we

1132
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: head back to Orchard Park. Here his Bills head coach

1133
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott.

1134
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Sean, you've got this year in your defense, so

1135
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: many of these guys that are just ag betans that

1136
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: have really stepped in for you in play, well, guys

1137
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 4: have come back to the team.

1138
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: Can you maybe quantify how important that's been you. I

1139
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: didn't know you get to beyond guys, but.

1140
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 6: These veteran guys have really kind of stepped up for you.

1141
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have.

1142
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 21: You know, you've got a group over here, as I mentioned,

1143
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 21: I think of his on Monday in the press converence

1144
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 21: of big time you know, experienced veterans, and you've got

1145
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 21: a group of a quotion of young guys who are

1146
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 21: just learning what the NFL is about, right first first

1147
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 21: year players in particular. So it's good to have some

1148
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 21: of these guys who can teach by example number one,

1149
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 21: and then also get shoulder to shoulder with some of

1150
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 21: these young players too in part some of the wisdom

1151
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 21: that they've learned over the years just around the NFL

1152
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 21: and our system, what have you. And and some of

1153
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 21: those guys in this part of the equation are also

1154
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 21: you know, real tone cetters for us and from a

1155
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 21: toughness standpoint as well known.

1156
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 20: Your staff have had a lot of success in adjusting

1157
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 20: the second half, especially on defense.

1158
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 5: What's that like.

1159
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 20: For the players and what have you learned about your

1160
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 20: team in having to do that multiple times? I know

1161
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 20: you do it every game, but substantially multiple games.

1162
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 4: During this year.

1163
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 21: Yeah, you know, it's you know, as I've said before,

1164
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 21: the person that was in the league when I was

1165
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 21: younger said to me and to our staff years ago, Hey,

1166
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 21: it's one thing to have a game plan, but it's

1167
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 21: another thing to have a staff that is able to

1168
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 21: adjust in the midst of a game, whether it is

1169
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 21: at halftime or you know, second quarter or what have you.

1170
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 21: That's critical. And again, but it takes two right, It

1171
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 21: takes the staff to be able to know how to

1172
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 21: do that, but also then the players have to execute that.

1173
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 21: Because you can have adjustments, the players aren't in a

1174
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 21: spot or space where they're able to adjust and execute

1175
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 21: those adjustments. And so that combination of buying from the

1176
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 21: players is huge for us.

1177
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: Maybe two months, is there anything that you saw leading

1178
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: you to believe in Matt Milano still have that type

1179
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 3: of game in him? There progressions that you kind of

1180
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 3: saw a day in and day out.

1181
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 21: Yeah, right here right there, that says everything. He has

1182
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 21: an elite mindset, and I know he doesn't say a lot.

1183
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 21: I know it's kind of been talked about, but he

1184
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 21: knows who he is, and he has a goal and

1185
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 21: a vision for himself and nothing's going to get in

1186
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 21: the way of that goal and vision that he has

1187
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 21: for himself. And I have a ton of respect for

1188
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 21: him and how he goes about his business day in

1189
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 21: and day out. Like I said, I know you guys

1190
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 21: may not get a lot out of him, and I

1191
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 21: think he's okay with again knowing who he is and

1192
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 21: how he carries himself.

1193
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 5: So I respect that Sean.

1194
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 13: On Monday, Bobby was asked about this stat of the

1195
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 13: defense allowing.

1196
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 5: Thirty one or more in a game.

1197
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 13: You guys are actually four and zero in those games,

1198
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 13: and his response was pretty blund He said, it's disgusting

1199
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 13: with us, To be honest with you, how do you

1200
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 13: view holistically where the defense is in terms of you know,

1201
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 13: you made key takeaways against Cincinnati that helped them win.

1202
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 13: You've made these adjustments in games that we've talked about,

1203
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 13: including last week, But you know that number of points

1204
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 13: is it's tough. It's tough living to continue to give

1205
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 13: up that many and still win. So how do you

1206
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 13: view heal you know, holistically, where the defense is.

1207
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 21: Yeah, we're working to find the right combination of guys

1208
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 21: out there. As you know, we've hit some bumps in

1209
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 21: the row with just some of the guys being in

1210
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 21: and out of the lineup through the course of the season.

1211
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 21: I think the coaching staff has done a phenomenal job

1212
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 21: of managing that, and then players have stepped up to

1213
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 21: the challenge and overall, I mean, you look at the

1214
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 21: game last week, is what do you do in the

1215
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 21: moments are the brightest when they need to stop five

1216
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 21: series in the second half four stops. One was an

1217
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 21: explosive play which can't happen right back to back stops

1218
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 21: consecutively to win the game. You know, stop them on defense,

1219
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 21: go on offense, have to punt the ball back with

1220
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 21: give them a chance to win the game, stop them,

1221
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 21: get them four downs. I think that really speaks to

1222
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 21: the mental toughness of our of our defense. That said

1223
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 21: to your point, yeah, it's hard to win when you're

1224
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 21: giving up explosive chunks and they're scoring like they are.

1225
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 21: So we continue to try and spend the dial to

1226
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 21: figure out what's the best combination of players of scheme

1227
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 21: and so on and so forth. So that's been the

1228
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 21: case pretty much most of the year. To your point,

1229
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 21: the takeaways in the second half, fourth quarter, in particular

1230
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 21: the Bengals game. I'm not sure we win that game

1231
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 21: without those two takeaways. So a lot of it's good, Jay,

1232
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 21: I know you want to focus on the negative over here.

1233
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 21: I'm going to stay focused on both ends of the

1234
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 21: spectrum because that's this perspective I have to have and

1235
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 21: how you get things corrected and we play our best ball.

1236
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: That's the goal moving forward.

1237
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: What have you made of what you see Shugaris Anders

1238
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 3: so far?

1239
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 21: Good player, a good young player, off to a great start,

1240
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 21: you know, dangerous with the tools said that he brings

1241
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 21: to the table, you know, and he's done a great job.

1242
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 21: I think their offense is actually ratcheted up since since

1243
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 21: he's been under center, So that'll be a big challenge

1244
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 21: for us.

1245
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 2: It's amazing you pick up on that where Sean was

1246
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 2: talking about, I know you're going to focus on the negative. Yeah, like,

1247
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: what's the negative over there? Look just a different level, man,

1248
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: Look all.

1249
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: Right, even three years with ten or more wins, Yeah, it's.

1250
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: Been pretty good, pretty smooth sailing.

1251
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: All right, frit listen to the bottom right bottom lines.

1252
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: We got we got to hit big plays. And if

1253
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 3: Door has done anything and you heard him kind of

1254
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 3: allude to it there. Since week twelve, when he became

1255
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: a starter, shirtist four completions of more than fifty yards.

1256
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: Only Sam Darnold and c. J. Stroud, who have two each,

1257
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: which adds up to four, have more than one in

1258
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 3: that span. So he's hitting big plays. Isaiah Bond obviously

1259
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 3: getting behind the defense. He has three catches of more

1260
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 3: than forty yards since week twelve. Brown's got to keep

1261
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 3: him going. Harold Fanning, by the way, he gets one

1262
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: catch this week will break a tie with Kevin Johnson

1263
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 3: for the most receptions by a rookie in Browns franchise history.

1264
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: Here they're both currently tied right now at sixty six.

1265
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: Quin Shawn Judkins, how about this, James Cook in this game,

1266
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 3: thirty three percent of his rushing yards have come before

1267
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: contact this year. Quin Shawn Judkins five percent. Five percent

1268
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: of his yards have come before contact this season, one

1269
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 3: of the worst rates in the NFL. You're going against

1270
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: a team that is right now they are not a

1271
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: great run defense, but it's partially because they've been given

1272
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 3: up some explosives lately and the Browns really, well, you

1273
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 3: haven't hit any explosives in the ground, but we had

1274
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: those early in the season, just not lately. They're giving

1275
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: up five point four yards to carry twenty three touchdowns

1276
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: on the ground. But they're the number two passing defense

1277
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 3: in the league in terms of getting after the quarterback.

1278
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: They don't do a great job thirty one sacks of it.

1279
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: Greg Russo's got four sacks. They also have so far

1280
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: this season. On the other side, Joey Bosa, the five

1281
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 3: time Pro Bowlers Pro Bowler last year with the Chargers,

1282
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 3: he's got a team high five sacks, so it's kind

1283
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: of spread around a little bit. Aj Epanessa, their second

1284
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 3: rounder from twenty twenty's got two and a half sacks,

1285
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: but he's got who had six sacks in each of

1286
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: the last three seasons. A couple of former Browns on

1287
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: this d defense Larry Ogan Jobi He has been there

1288
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: now for eight games. Jordan Poyer has back there where

1289
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 3: he was a former Pro bowler in the first team

1290
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: All Pro. Their corners Christan Benford was out last week,

1291
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 3: but he's got two He's scored two touchdowns this year.

1292
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 3: How about that? Christian Benford has as many touchdowns as

1293
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: a lot of offensive players in this league this year too.

1294
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 3: He's got a pick six, He's got a thumber return

1295
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: for a touchdown. He was out last week with a toe,

1296
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Speaker 3: but looks like he could be backed a rookie first rounder,

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Speaker 3: Maxwell Harriston's played well, two picks, five passes defense in

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Speaker 3: eight games. Their safety, Cold Bishop is they're leading the

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Speaker 3: team three interceptions, he's got seven passes defense and he

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Speaker 3: also has seventy six tackles. They've got Taron Johnson, they

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Speaker 3: got Tredavias White on the other side, who got his

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Speaker 3: first interception of the season last week, and a team

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Speaker 3: my eight passes defense, former two time Pro bowler. They

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01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: got Matt Mulano at linebacker, Terrell Bernard, Shack Thompson, the

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Speaker 3: former first round pick with the Carolina Panthers, Dorian Williams.

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Speaker 3: So they've it's there's it's a solid defense. They're not

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Speaker 3: gonna make a ton of mistakes. They're gonna play that

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Speaker 3: four man front a lot of nickel. Obviously, they get

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Speaker 3: Tredaevius White, Poyer, Arren Johnson, Cole Bishop, and then they

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Speaker 3: get Benford out there. My guess is this week they'll

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Speaker 3: probably get a lot more. Maxwell Harrison's been playing well,

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: so I think he'll play a lot. So they've got

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Speaker 3: their deep at corner, four deep legit starters, they got

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Speaker 3: their good safeties and Bishop and Poyer to solid defense.

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Speaker 3: Solid defense. But again, the key to beating this football

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Speaker 3: team is you've got to hold them to twenty or

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Speaker 3: less and when you do that, you maybe have a chance.

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Speaker 3: And their losses they've been beaten twenty three to twenty,

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Speaker 3: twenty four to fourteen, thirty to thirteen, and twenty three

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Speaker 3: to nineteen. When they win, they win big lee. But

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Speaker 3: what I'll say is this, if you look at their

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Speaker 3: recent history here we're talking the last six games, they've

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Speaker 3: given up thirty thirty two twenty three seven. That's the anomaly.

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01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: That's the Steelers thirty four thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Who are their four losses to ze? Do you have

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Speaker 2: it up there?

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Speaker 3: The New England Patriots. They lost twenty three to twenty

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Speaker 3: at home in October the fifth. The very next week

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Speaker 3: they went to it Land. Oh that's right, on Monday

1330
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 3: Night football and they lost twenty four to fourteen to

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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons. They then lost to the Miami Dolphins

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 3: thirty to thirteen in Miami in November the ninth, week ten,

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Speaker 3: and then in week twelve they lost at Houston twenty

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Speaker 3: three to nineteen. So three of their losses are on

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Speaker 3: the road Atlanta. Their last three losses in fact all

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Speaker 3: on the road Atlanta, Miami and Houston.

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Speaker 2: Two truly strange losses in there too that are hard

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Speaker 4: Hello Gibbe, Hi, gentlemen, Just a couple of quick ones here.

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Speaker 4: Another fantasy question for you, mister Zegura man. With Justin

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 4: Jefferson basically being a non contributor to my team, would

1360
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 4: any of you consider the thought of benching him for

1361
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 4: DK Metcalf in my semi final match. That's the situation

1362
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Speaker 4: I'm in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, unfortunately, Yeah, Pittsburgh plays Detroit. Yeah that should be

1364
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: a shootout in Detroit or in Pittsburgh in Detroit in

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 3: a dome. Yes, yeah, I'm Justin Jefferson at this point

1366
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 3: is what Justin Jefferson is.

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Speaker 2: Isn't crazy though?

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01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 3: Twenty three yards and nothing.

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 2: It's clearly the right Reid. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: it's like you probably drafted him number one overall or

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01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: number in the top five or six. Yes, yes, and

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Speaker 2: you're it's just crazy how fantasy football works, you know.

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, here's the reality is if his name

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 3: wasn't Justin Jefferson, right He's not on He's not on

1375
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: a single roster in fantasm right now, not not starting now.

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Speaker 3: He's not on a roster.

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 2: No. But in the back of your head, you're going,

1378
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 2: you know he's capable of nine for one eighty seven

1379
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: and two scores. Of course you know that's there, but

1380
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Speaker 2: I don't know it's there. He can.

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Speaker 3: That's what sucks, is like, here's the reality of it.

1382
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: His last three games, his last he last scored a

1383
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 3: touchdown against Detroit. He has gone one to six games

1384
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: without a touchdown, and in that span without a touchdown,

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01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 3: he's got four for thirty seven, five for sixty one.

1386
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 3: By the game way the game he scored touchdown, he

1387
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 3: had six for forty seven. He went six for forty seven,

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01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 3: four for thirty seven, five for sixty one, four for

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Speaker 3: forty eight, two for four, two for eleven, and two

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Speaker 3: for twenty two. Yeah, I mean Justin Jefferson for his career,

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 3: was the all time leader and receiving yards per game

1392
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,480
Speaker 3: coming into this season, he is no longer that anymore.

1393
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 3: He went eighty seven and a half yards a game,

1394
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 3: ninety five yards a game, one hundred and six yards

1395
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Speaker 3: a game, one hundred and sven yards a game, niney

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01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 3: yards game. This year's at fifty fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder what it's all said done, Like, will

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01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: people remember what happened this year to him? Because he's

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01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: a first ballot, gold jacket start to his career totally

1400
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: like this, You're gonna look back five years ago and

1401
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: go what happened in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: He's still gonna get to one thousand yards? I would think.

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 3: So he's got three games, three games, and he needs

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight yards, He'll get there.

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Speaker 4: I would think, Yeah, Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold.

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 2: Baker against Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Baker just Baker hasn't played well of late from a

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01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 3: fantasy standpoint. Last week was his best two seventy seven

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 3: and two. He'd gone four straight games before that with

1410
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 3: fewer than two hundred yards passing and no multiple touchdown games.

1411
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 3: He's only had two multiple touchdown games since October the twelfth,

1412
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: his last one two, three, four, five, six seven, eight

1413
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 3: eight games, two multiple touchdown games, no three hundred yard games,

1414
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 3: and in fact he's only been over to hundred fifty

1415
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 3: yards twice. I mean, yep. I know Mike Evans is back,

1416
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 3: so maybe that helps, but I have a hard time

1417
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 3: playing him right now. Not that Donald's been on fire

1418
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 3: lately either. That's a tough though. That's not a good

1419
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: that's now get Jacobe Brissette.

1420
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Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking up Thursday night football, it's time for a

1421
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Speaker 4: Thursday night football score or ramm it on the road.

1422
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 4: Tons of travel issues. They had to get two planes

1423
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: because the one plane they had had mechanical issues. Yeah,

1424
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 4: ram it on the road in Seattle. This for the

1425
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: number one seed in the NFC. Zigura quickly score.

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Speaker 3: A lot of trouble right now with the Rams Pooka

1427
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 3: Akua making headlines, they don't want no DeVante Adams. Boy,

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01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: it just feels like it's all set up for the

1429
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 3: Seattle seahawky is at home to just go and make

1430
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 3: a statement here and get the job done. The Seahawks

1431
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 3: waves on a roll, on a roll. The tide is

1432
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 3: rushing in. The Hawks are gonna win.

1433
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Speaker 2: Well played out of you, Samesey's on that that's a

1434
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: real song, by the way, I know, yeah, I didn't

1435
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: think you made that up. That's good, Jebety All right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Zego's one on one with Brown's long

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Speaker 2: snapper Rex Suna Hara. You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 3: and very happy to be joined by Brown's long snapper

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Speaker 3: Rex so Nahara. Rex, this is a conversation that you

1446
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 3: and I began on the Kevin Stefanski Show, but we

1447
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 3: ran out of time, we had constraints, and now we

1448
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 3: said we must revisit this immediately. So here we are.

1449
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to sit down with you and we're

1450
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 3: going to talk. You know what, We're gonna talk about,

1451
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 3: YEP wrestling, and we're going to start off by talking

1452
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 3: about John Cena's final match. Your thoughts.

1453
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 14: I have always been a huge like ever since Triple

1454
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 14: H took over Creative and you know, they kind of

1455
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 14: moved into this TKO type of thing. I always I

1456
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 14: was like, you know what, Triple H was a wrestler.

1457
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 14: He understood the business, he understood what was going on.

1458
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 14: I thought he was going to do what was right

1459
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 14: for the business. I have different thoughts now. I thought

1460
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 14: that there was. To me, there was no build up

1461
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 14: to that match. There was no clear next step after

1462
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 14: that match. John Cena hadn't tapped out in twenty years.

1463
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 14: Why would he tap?

1464
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: Like?

1465
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 14: Now, yeah, we all know, we all love Professor like

1466
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 14: we love professional wrestling. We understand that it is a

1467
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 14: scripted thing. We get that, but that does nothing Like

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 14: Gunther has done nothing for me. I don't I don't

1469
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 14: understand human ambient. He like puts me to sleep. There's

1470
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 14: no draw there, There was no there's nothing. Yeah, there

1471
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 14: was Like Now if you now, let's say he goes

1472
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 14: and he wrestles Randy Orton, he wrestles Cmpunk, he wrestles

1473
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 14: even AJ styles. I I'm cool with that. I'm cool

1474
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,440
Speaker 14: with any of those. He loses that one, that's fine.

1475
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 14: He never has had a single match at least to

1476
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 14: my knowledge, he's never had a single match with Gunther.

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 3: No, there's no history there, there's nothing.

1478
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 14: I thought that was booked completely wrong. I didn't like

1479
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 14: the I didn't like the finish. I didn't like any

1480
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 14: of it. Everything about it seemed forced. I waited it.

1481
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 3: I said, if I said a letter, I give it

1482
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: an F. It's an F.

1483
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 14: You and I talked for for a little bit at

1484
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 14: this fancy show about how I got the opportuny to

1485
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 14: work with Jeff Jarrett. So I was talking with Jeff

1486
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 14: Jared about and Jeff Jarrett obviously he's been in this

1487
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 14: business forever and understands the business, and you know it

1488
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 14: is the time honor tradition that you always go out losing.

1489
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 14: But he was like this, it's just he thought it

1490
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 14: was the everybody was there to see John Cenall win

1491
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 14: one more time. And to me, the sign of something

1492
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 14: being an epic failure is when there was like no

1493
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 14: heat on Gunther at all. No, the heat was on

1494
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 14: triple h for the booking because they've exposed everything to

1495
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 14: the point so much if they're and if they were,

1496
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 14: how can you be worried about time honor traditions and

1497
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 14: then at the same point, be like, here's us behind

1498
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 14: the scenes telling you who's gonna win the royal rumble

1499
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 14: and showing everything like and Triple H got booed more

1500
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 14: for that than Gunther did, which means that's a failure.

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01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 14: People are saying, they're just rejecting what the plan was.

1502
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 14: And the thing is, you mentioned Triple H. He's an ego, mate,

1503
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 14: it keeps making all this about himself.

1504
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1505
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, but here's like, like you said, there

1506
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 14: was no problem. I had no issue with John Cena

1507
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 14: losing because you're right, fine, everyone you know, no one

1508
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 14: is going to be upset if he loses. But he's

1509
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 14: got to lose the right way, and that to me

1510
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 14: wasn't the right way. Now if you go like, but

1511
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 14: you're right, Triple H does this stuff where it's he

1512
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 14: wants to make it about him, Yes, he wants to

1513
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 14: make it about him.

1514
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: He wants to make it.

1515
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 14: About Oh, I'm doing all these great things. It's me.

1516
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 14: It's me, it's me, it's me, and any right, I

1517
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 14: don't agree with any of it.

1518
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 3: I think if you could have picked his dream opponent,

1519
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 3: who would have been anybody, like anybody, anybody on I

1520
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 3: think it's Randy.

1521
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 14: I think it Randy Orton, Okay, I do I mean

1522
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 14: those I think it's Randy Orton or I think it's

1523
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 14: the HM Punk. So I would have picked Edge Edge,

1524
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,600
Speaker 14: brought Edge back, they get out of Clothes or the

1525
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 14: Rock because they have a lot of history and then

1526
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 14: it doesn't really matter who like in those some of

1527
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 14: those situations, he could win and it wouldn't matter like

1528
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,839
Speaker 14: Seena could win and the other persons still a megastar, correct,

1529
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 14: And I think so the reason I said Randy Orton

1530
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 14: or see him Punk. Yeah, those that was like kind

1531
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 14: of my childhood of like John Cena was always the

1532
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 14: babyface and then you always had you know whether it

1533
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 14: was Randy Orton who played who just naturally is a

1534
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 14: better heel than anything else. Same with Seham Punk. Those

1535
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 14: ones to me were like that's nostalgia.

1536
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 3: To me, I was like when Punk won and then

1537
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 3: took the belt and to get money in the bank,

1538
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: like that's peakier or from unbelievable.

1539
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, that money in the bank is one of the

1540
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 14: most incredible. Another reason why I love professional wrestling, because

1541
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 14: you're like, well, they're not just gonna lie about this

1542
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 14: like he he took the belt. He's leaving. They didn't

1543
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,919
Speaker 14: see him for four months, Like yeah, of course he's gone,

1544
01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 14: but yeah, I mean, I don't know that just my

1545
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 14: I didn't like it. I was watching it in the

1546
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 14: training room the night before the game. I was watching

1547
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 14: it with Alex Right and we were both we were

1548
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 14: both talking.

1549
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: We were like, coun there, like it's ridiculous. And I

1550
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 3: think what I'm afraid of is that they're so into

1551
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 3: this that I think they're talking about you know, Jericho

1552
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: is going to come back and do a retirement tour. Really,

1553
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: aj Styles is going to retire soon, and Brock is

1554
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 3: going to retire soon, and that they might have Guntha

1555
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 3: retire all of them, which would be like it's so

1556
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 3: it's not even believable, Like it's it's And I get

1557
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 3: that there are certain people that like his style, like

1558
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 3: I understand that, and it's trying to be more real

1559
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 3: and blah blah, But I mean it's chop European uppercut, clothesline, sleeper,

1560
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 3: power bomb, and then the worst splash maybe in the

1561
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: history of the business. And that's the entirety of his

1562
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 3: move set.

1563
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 14: But is that what they're trying? Like, so did you

1564
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 14: see his Instagram post where he was like professional wrestling

1565
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 14: greater than sports sports, which fine, just fine, completely fine.

1566
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 3: But I like calling it pro wrestling. But I do too,

1567
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 3: and it's but.

1568
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 14: But my thing is is I don't think he is

1569
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 14: the I don't think that's the face of pro.

1570
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 3: Wrestling, absolutely not. Did you watch any of Monday A Touch?

1571
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 3: Did you watch his promo? Like his heat was weak heats? No,

1572
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 3: it was kind of like xpot go away heats. Yeah,

1573
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that was like the sex Pock,

1574
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 3: Who's a fine man. I've got to meet it many times,

1575
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 3: very nice guy. You don't ever have like.

1576
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 14: There is but like you said about Triple H, like

1577
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 14: there was more heat.

1578
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 3: On him, yes, the booker.

1579
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 14: The booker then Gunther ever has like.

1580
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: That's bad for business, It's horrible for.

1581
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 14: Business, Like I have never like, I don't think Gunther

1582
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 14: has been over a day in the company. I don't

1583
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 14: think there there were so many better heels that they

1584
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 14: could have put out there.

1585
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:36,839
Speaker 3: I would have I'd.

1586
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 14: Rather have would have rather almost had it gone Cody,

1587
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 14: Like again, had it gone Cody rhodse Verus, John Cena, that's.

1588
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 3: Fine, it would have been fine. But yeah, all right

1589
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 3: if you when you you talked about kind of a

1590
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 3: little bit of the ear you came in when you

1591
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: said me two questions, But the first one is what

1592
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 3: would be the match that you would show somebody who

1593
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 3: was a friend of yours that wasn't a wrestling fan.

1594
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 3: You're like, this is why you this is this is

1595
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 3: professional wrestling. So there's two.

1596
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 14: Oh good, I have so WrestleMania seventeen The Rock and

1597
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 14: Stone Cold Ohka, I love that one. Really one is unbelievable.

1598
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 14: And then also I love WrestleMania eighteen and I think

1599
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 14: it's Toronto Hogan, Hogan in the Rock, Hogan.

1600
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: So that's my answer. Hogan in the Rock is the greatest.

1601
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 3: It's it's perfect. It's it's that is pro wrestling. It's perfect.

1602
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm getting goosebumps right now. I love it.

1603
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 14: But I also loved like, for some reason, I loved

1604
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 14: the do and maybe it was because I didn't know, Like,

1605
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 14: I think social media has a has a down like

1606
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 14: played a bit of a downfall in professional wrestling because

1607
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 14: because there's no secrets, there is no secrets anymore, and

1608
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 14: that was kind of the great thing about professional wrestling.

1609
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 14: We're like you kind of know, but you didn't. Yeah,

1610
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 14: and it was so like I loved. I loved the

1611
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 14: entirety of WrestleMania seventeen. I think it's the best.

1612
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: WrestleMania ever because is that that's the one. The first

1613
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: one I ever went to live was nineteen, So I

1614
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 3: was at nineteen, twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

1615
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 3: twenty four. My kid was born, so I was there

1616
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 3: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. I went

1617
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: to all of them, twenty nine, thirty thirty one, not

1618
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 3: thirty one thirty two. Yeah, I've been to and then

1619
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: more rose and I've been to it. I was front

1620
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: row for twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven. I had

1621
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 3: a good run where I was like, that's awesome right

1622
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 3: in the mind, I would love to do that. So

1623
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 3: like Undertaker Shawn Michaels the first one and the second

1624
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: one the cage match, yep, Sina Batista, Oh yeah for yeah,

1625
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 3: under Triple H. And the twenty eight was Triple H

1626
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 3: and Shawn Michaels against the Undertaker.

1627
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 14: Well, Shawn Michaels the referee.

1628
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 3: I Sewan Michaels a referee right where they do the

1629
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: Super kick pedigree anything.

1630
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 14: It's like that sequence where did he has him he

1631
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 14: has him in the tombstone super kick into the pedigree.

1632
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, it's over. The streak's over. Yeah,

1633
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 3: but that's I was there for when Brock's streak. When

1634
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 3: Brock broke the streak and they had cut to me,

1635
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 3: I have my hands on my head. They showed what'd

1636
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 3: you think of that?

1637
01:19:58,960 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 4: To me?

1638
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 3: Like Brock was, I got it like you. Undertaker was

1639
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 3: okay with it, being because he's brock Less, like Brock

1640
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: Lester is the band's dude that I think that's ever

1641
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 3: been in wrestling, like full stop, the most believable, like

1642
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: everything about right, So I was, I was fine with it.

1643
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 3: At some point, you had that streak, which started kind

1644
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 3: of as an accent. They didn't realize until like five

1645
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 3: or six years in that he was, oh my god,

1646
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 3: wait we have this, and then it became a thing.

1647
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 3: And so at some point you want to put somebody over.

1648
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 3: So to me, in that case that you put somebody

1649
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 3: over that was worthy of it, whereas in this case,

1650
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 3: like they're trying so hard with good to whereas Brock

1651
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 3: was already like a dude. So I was okay with it.

1652
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, I you didn't like it.

1653
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: No, it's that I was never like also like I

1654
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 3: never was.

1655
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 14: I didn't know brock Lesner, like I didn't know because

1656
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 14: I didn't you know, I was a bit too young

1657
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 14: even for when.

1658
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 3: He oh ude, he was a beast, right Like.

1659
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 14: I mean, and now like now all these things come out,

1660
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 14: like I see the tape of him at ov W,

1661
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 14: I see all this stuff where it's like, holy crap,

1662
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 14: the guy was unbelievable. But I knew brock Lesner as

1663
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 14: the UFC fighter. So then when he comes back, I

1664
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 14: think it was the raw after Mania when I was.

1665
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 3: There Miami Florida.

1666
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 14: Yeah, so he comes back Rosania destroys John Cena. I'm like,

1667
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 14: who the hell? Like I had no idea who really

1668
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 14: who he even was?

1669
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: Oh Ma, like to me, you should go back and

1670
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: watch some of like his stuff from I want to say,

1671
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 3: two thousand one two. I think was kind of in

1672
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 3: the time when he was like coming out two thousand

1673
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 3: and three. Even is when he's in the main event

1674
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: with Kurt Angles nineteen, he would he was bad. Like

1675
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 3: when he first came out he was working with the Hardy's.

1676
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 3: It was nuts. He was like a whole different animal

1677
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 3: because he looked so believable. And I thought Batista was

1678
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: similar to that, whereas I was a big Batista guy.

1679
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: But okay, that's interesting. So we're similar on the matches.

1680
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 3: I think Rock Cogan at eighteen when like Cogan can

1681
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 3: do a backbreak and the place goes nuts. Yeah, so

1682
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: the match I did the opening sequence, just the opening

1683
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 3: sequence was the opening it for a rock hug and

1684
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 3: where you like go back and like pose and like

1685
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: do all that. So we had I had a little

1686
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 3: bit that because I was like, I love that so

1687
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 3: much that So I.

1688
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 14: Had heard her. I had heard or watch something where

1689
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 14: it was like it was supposed to be the roles

1690
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 14: were supposed to be flipped in.

1691
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 3: Yes, Broc was supposed to be the baby facing Hogan,

1692
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 3: the heels n w a Hogan right.

1693
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 14: And so like and then it complete flip because everyone

1694
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 14: was just so in love with Hogan so they had

1695
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 14: to do it. And like the Rock being so good.

1696
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 3: At this was able to stuff like that, which that's

1697
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 3: but that's the magic there, that's the magic. He's about

1698
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: her too.

1699
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 14: Where it's like that's like what we're talking about, Like

1700
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 14: that's when I show people, and like my friends hate

1701
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 14: when I talk professional wrestling.

1702
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 5: I hate it.

1703
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 3: I can't understand why. I like it, tell him to

1704
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 3: grow up. It's great, but.

1705
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 14: Like I'm like, this is the one you gotta watch, yeah,

1706
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 14: because and then I talked to him about the backstory

1707
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 14: of it, and it's like they're like, well, like we

1708
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 14: don't care that there's another rival promotion, Like I don't

1709
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 14: even understand, Like no.

1710
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 3: Just watch it, just watch it, yes, and you get

1711
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 3: kind of like when he hulks up the first idea,

1712
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, going nuts, it's the best, all right.

1713
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 3: So who's your Mount Rushmore? Top four only limited it

1714
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 3: to four Top four And this doesn't have to mean

1715
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: that you think that they're the grace.

1716
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 14: This is your like your favorites, your mind to four favorites. Okay,

1717
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 14: so I'm going to go the Rock, Yes, of course,

1718
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 14: the Rock. I'm gonna go Undertaker.

1719
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 3: Okay. Those are two guys who could be on the

1720
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 3: like just correct pure Mount Rushmore.

1721
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 14: The Godfather, The Godfather, The Godfather. I loved the Godfather,

1722
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 14: I was I loved you all aboard, all aboard. That

1723
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 14: is incredible, The Godfather, and then probably four for me

1724
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 14: in oh man, it's it's it's one of two, And

1725
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 14: it depends on which era you want to talk about.

1726
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 14: I think it would for me four would be either

1727
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 14: KOFE Kingston or the road Dock.

1728
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 3: Jesse James Sophie Kingston by the way, tremendous human being.

1729
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 3: Night whenever I was a got the opportunity to be

1730
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 3: backstage driver, was always so nice my kids when they

1731
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 3: were like blowing up and you know, my kids were

1732
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: had the whole the unicorns. Yeah, I loved it. Him

1733
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 3: and Biggie and they were so nice. They gave him

1734
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: like bootios, they gave them much. So my kids love Covid.

1735
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 3: Kingston is a great guy. I got when he won

1736
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 3: the title. That was we were at that WrestleMania and

1737
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 3: at the he was just like it was like a

1738
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 3: boyhood dream like he was just genuinely so touch that

1739
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,759
Speaker 3: he got to experience that and do that, and he's

1740
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: an awesome dude. And those were always like the best

1741
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 3: road dogs great too.

1742
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean that's all they're mixing though, that's older

1743
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 14: stuff like good Godfather and that's attitude r Us with

1744
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 14: road dog. But that was like one of the best

1745
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 14: things that I think ww we ever did was getting

1746
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 14: on Peacock and put the whole role of Darkchive for sure,

1747
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 14: everything because I had never seen that stuff up until

1748
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 14: probably it's probably twenty or whatever it was. It twenty

1749
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 14: twenty was when it went on there and like COVID,

1750
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 14: so I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna watch old wrestling things.

1751
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 3: I was, Oh my, do you ever watch any old ECW?

1752
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 14: So the I'm not great there. I've watched one night Stand,

1753
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 14: I've watched that. I'm talking like, really, sye, I never

1754
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 14: saw it easy, so I would think there's do you

1755
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 14: like like the guy?

1756
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: Like? Did you like Jeff Hardy?

1757
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, love Jeff Hardy, loved, loved the Dudley's love, Sandman love,

1758
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 14: Tommy Dreamer, like all those guys, ro yeah, Rob Van

1759
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 14: Dam the whole and show rv.

1760
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 3: D is the best. Like he would be I don't

1761
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 3: know if he would make it onto my rushboard. He'd

1762
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,719
Speaker 3: be up there. Macho Man would be on mine for sure,

1763
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 3: Rock probably Macho Man. It's interesting when I have to

1764
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 3: actually think about that. I mean the Hulkster for sure,

1765
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 3: and then I would probably my fourth would be a

1766
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 3: wild card, might be mister perfect. I was a big

1767
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 3: mister perfect guy.

1768
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 14: Okay, big see I never saw much of him, he was.

1769
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 14: I know about it.

1770
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 3: I know about I was a big Rick Rude guy,

1771
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 3: got ravishing.

1772
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 14: Because Rude was the first guy that really kind of

1773
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 14: kicked off the wars, right.

1774
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was one. He appeared on bowl shows in

1775
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:56,639
Speaker 3: the same night.

1776
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 14: Crazy yeah, which man, right, imagine doing that now and

1777
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 14: then everything back then it was nobody knew, right, So

1778
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 14: it's so much It was so much better that way.

1779
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 3: See, I always want Gotthol Razor. I was.

1780
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 14: I thought that whole thing was awesome. Scott Whole's story

1781
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 14: was sweet and you know, like but I also loved

1782
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 14: you know, pre wrestling. Like they think about like pro wrestling,

1783
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 14: it's just like you know what, like fake wrestling or

1784
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 14: whatever it is like, but there are real people in

1785
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 14: that and like you look at you look at a

1786
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 14: guy like DDP. DDP has saved so many people's lives exactly,

1787
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 14: like so many people like I think he Lex Luger

1788
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 14: was never supposed to walk again. No I'm walking yeah

1789
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 14: because of that. Yeah, And like people don't you love about.

1790
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 3: It, and people don't understand the physical toll that it

1791
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 3: takes on their bodies. Like people think it's a trampoline.

1792
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 3: It is not. I am. It would be like just

1793
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 3: falling on this floor right here on your back as

1794
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 3: hard as you can. It's really not much. I mean

1795
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: it's a little better than that, but it's not much.

1796
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 12: You know.

1797
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 3: It sucks. Oh I when I went there, I did

1798
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 3: a hundred flatbacks the first aid. That's like what they

1799
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: made me do is like part of my train to go,

1800
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 3: and like I could feel my heith rattling my it

1801
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: was terrible. I'd have to add the miss because he's

1802
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: a great personal friend of mine, and and of course

1803
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 3: Matt Cardona because that's my dude with the Broski.

1804
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 14: Where did where did the mis go to high school?

1805
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 3: Uh?

1806
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: Nor?

1807
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 6: No?

1808
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 3: Not? Nor do you go to in Parma?

1809
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 4: No?

1810
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,879
Speaker 3: He went in Parma to Normandy. He went to Normandy

1811
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: Normandy Invaders? And then did Ziggler go to Ed's Ziggler did? Yeah?

1812
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 4: Got it?

1813
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then went to Kens. Ziggler is a great dude,

1814
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 3: a great worker.

1815
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 14: My brother and I so my brother Argenta. That was

1816
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 14: where we low Like, so did you guys ever have

1817
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 14: a tag team name? What was your tag? So we

1818
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 14: actually never did. We just wrestled each other. We never

1819
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 14: we never actually did that, but it was but we

1820
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 14: because that was like we hated Dolf Sigler. We hated

1821
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 14: Dolph Sniggler, we hated the miz because that was like,

1822
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 14: oh we hated him, couldn't stand it.

1823
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 3: We by the way, he failed to win our Fantasy

1824
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 3: League again this year was still zero titles, zero I

1825
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:55,799
Speaker 3: have three, no big deal deal.

1826
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 14: But like because that was like because the faces in

1827
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 14: that time were like in the mid card where you know,

1828
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 14: we had Zach Ryder, you had Evan Bourne, you had

1829
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 14: Kofe Morrison Morrison as well. That was awesome, like and

1830
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 14: it was always Dolf and Vicky Guerrero. Yeah, god, I

1831
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 14: hate it. Excuse me those two when they would walk

1832
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 14: out with brother and I would just be like, this

1833
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 14: is miserable, Like why can't we turn this off? Like

1834
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 14: turn like can one of these guys just kick his

1835
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 14: ass and then we can be done with this?

1836
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,480
Speaker 3: So good? I mean, but hey, all right, the business,

1837
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 3: we gotta wrap this up. We'll do We'll have Tobe.

1838
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: We'll come back and revisit this next week. Because this

1839
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 3: is like Chris m J, what's up the great M

1840
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 3: j Emerson walking by M j Emerson A fine man.

1841
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 3: All right, if you were to be a wrestler, have

1842
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 3: you ever given yourself a wrestling And I just wrestled

1843
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 3: under my own name, but like when I was playing

1844
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 3: two K or whatever, I'd always have, you know, like

1845
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 3: a different name, to have you what's your what's your name?

1846
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: What would be your gimmick so that you don't have

1847
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 3: this you're thinking about. You never you wrestled your brother

1848
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: and you just you guys just wrestled. We just wrestled.

1849
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: We didn't have like a championship belt. We didn't scw

1850
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: sooner our championship wrestling. We didn't. We didn't. I know.

1851
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 14: It was bad, bad on our ball, bad on our part,

1852
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 14: but yeah, we just we would like watch it and

1853
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 14: then we would just like just try random stuff.

1854
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 3: Okay, and that was so what was your finisher? Did

1855
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 3: you have a finisher?

1856
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 14: I loved the tombstone pile driver was always because I

1857
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 14: never understood where, like how that guy wasn't dead every time. Yeah,

1858
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 14: I remember I hit my brother. It was luckily it

1859
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 14: was on like our our bed, like our child in

1860
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 14: our childhood room, and like I hit him with the tombstone,

1861
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 14: and I was like, oh my god, I actually get that. Yeah, now,

1862
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 14: I under could be bad, this could be very bad,

1863
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 14: but I think the tombstone would have been I also

1864
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 14: love like like a big show choke slam. That would

1865
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 14: be fierce. Yeah okay, those two would have been the finisher.

1866
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 3: And then did you ever contemplate like an outfit, like

1867
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 3: what you how you wanted your gear to look.

1868
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 14: I loved the old school scena. I loved the gene shorts,

1869
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 14: the baggy, the baggy like retro jersey jerseys.

1870
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, basic economics. Loved Rex soon Ahara. Yeah, well this

1871
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 3: is fantastic. I can't wait. I can't wait to see.

1872
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 3: Do you ever play the video game? Do you ever

1873
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: play Two Keys?

1874
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1875
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you put yourself in there. Yeah okay, and

1876
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 3: that's what you go. I go, It's fantastic, this is great,

1877
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 3: This is great. Rex, always a pleasure man. Good luck

1878
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: the rest of the season, living out the dream. And

1879
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 3: then one day we got to get you in the

1880
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 3: squared circle.

1881
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:18,600
Speaker 5: I would love that.

1882
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, You've got all right. That was

1883
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 3: Brown's long snapper, Rex Sunahara, and folks, for those of

1884
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: you that enjoy that, for those of you that like

1885
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: the world Professional wrestling. REX is gonna be back with us.

1886
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna do like a Royal Rumble show. We're going

1887
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 3: to a road wrestle Mania show, WrestleMania reviews. So we're

1888
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 3: gonna get some some wrestling with Rex, which I think

1889
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 3: is gonna be a lot of fun going forward. So

1890
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 3: something for everybody right there to look forward to. I

1891
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 3: want to thank everybody for joining us today. Always good

1892
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 3: to go through those matchups right here. This is gonna

1893
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 3: be a tough game. Let's let's just be honest about

1894
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 3: it right now. The Buffalo Bills is a very good

1895
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 3: football team. They've got the reigning MVP, could be the

1896
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 3: MVP again and Josh Allen. But tomorrow we're gonna go

1897
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 3: get into everything again. We're gonna go through the keys

1898
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 3: to victory for this game. We're gonna have a little

1899
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 3: over unders. The champ is still here. That's right. We

1900
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 3: can still say that here because we have not retired

1901
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,799
Speaker 3: on this program. And we're going to go ahead and

1902
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 3: invite you to pay attention to the scores. Pay attention

1903
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 3: to score. So normal Friday lineup, getting you ready for

1904
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 3: the big weekend, the start of Christmas Week, the start

1905
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 3: of the holidays. It's going to be an absolute blast.

1906
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 3: So I want to thank you all for being with us.

1907
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 3: Don't forget tonight tonight, seven pm the Kevin Stefanski Show,

1908
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 3: all along the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network, joined myself,

1909
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 3: Gerrod Cherry, your head coach at Cleveland Browns, and Browns

1910
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 3: kicker Andre Schmidt, who made a boyhood dream come true,

1911
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 3: made a field goal and soldier field. You're going to

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01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 3: hear about all that that's coming up tonight right here

1913
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,040
Speaker 3: on the Kevin Sefanci Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland

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01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 3: Browns Radio Network. That will do it for us here

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Speaker 3: on this edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to you

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Speaker 3: by Bally bett On behalf of Bo Bishop, the Great Gibbe,

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Speaker 3: the g Man, Doctor Jit. And of course I would

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Speaker 3: be remiss if I didn't finish this show by saying

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01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:01,839
Speaker 3: happy birthday, Happy sixteenth birthday to my son Bryce L. Boots.

1920
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: I love you, and folks, get ready, the Boots is

1921
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 3: going to be on the road. He's a good driver,

1922
01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:10,439
Speaker 3: though very very good driver, so we got another good

1923
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: one out there. Folks, go Boots, all right, that'll do

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01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 3: it for us. Thanks for listening to Clean Browns Daily

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Speaker 3: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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