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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: We are not monolithic. There are so many ways in

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Speaker 2: which all of us, as Black women, as people in

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Speaker 2: the world can exist, and our intention is to create

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Speaker 2: that space for Black women to be their fullest selves

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Speaker 2: without judgment.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplooking

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Speaker 2: women like you. We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Brussard, a

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Speaker 2: college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 3: And Terry Lomax, a techy and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 3: world where Black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please

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Speaker 3: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 3: fibroids to fake friends, and create a safe space where

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Speaker 3: black women can just be.

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Speaker 2: All right. Our quote of the day. The power of

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Speaker 2: Black sisterhood means so much because as Black women, it's

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Speaker 2: important for us to come together and lift each other

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Speaker 2: to support all of the positive images instead of all

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Speaker 2: the negative images we see. We have to join forces,

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Speaker 2: and I think we're more powerful together than we are

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Speaker 2: are split apart. And that quote comes to us from

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Speaker 2: Natri Naughton, and I'm gonna say it one more time

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Speaker 2: for the folks in the back, because it's a mouthful,

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Speaker 2: but it's a word. The power of Black sisterhood means

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Speaker 2: so much because as Black women, it's important for us

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Speaker 2: to come together and lift each other up to support

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Speaker 2: all of the positive images instead of all of the

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Speaker 2: negative images we see. We have to join forces, and

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Speaker 2: I think we're more powerful together than we are split apart. Now, Tea,

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Speaker 2: we've been cultivating this sisterhood here for five years now,

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Speaker 2: and somebody who might be listening today might be tuning

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Speaker 2: you got two hundred and fifty episodes to catch up on.

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Speaker 2: So get your tea, get your wine, your coff or

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Speaker 2: whatever your favorite drink is, and catch these gems. But

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Speaker 2: tea for the person who is listening for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Who are you, Oh Dad? We jumping right on in. Okay, wow, Well,

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Speaker 3: let me just I'm thinking about the quote that you

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Speaker 3: shared real quick, Dome. I just want to share something

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Speaker 3: about that before diving into who I am, which feels

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Speaker 3: that we've had together for five years and who I

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Speaker 3: You know, we say I love us for real. There's

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Speaker 3: communing together in safe spaces. I think about when I

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Speaker 3: And I feel like anytime we link up, anytime black

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Speaker 3: And we're going to tell you a little bit about

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Speaker 3: but before before we get into that. As far as

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Speaker 3: reinvent yourself. One of my mentors she has literally had

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So you know when I think of those those

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Speaker 2: I think the beautiful thing about what we're doing with

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Speaker 2: that there is a lot about us that you do know. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know, one of my favorite quotes comes from my

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Speaker 2: you just aren't going to know about me because it's

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Speaker 2: not for public consumption. But generally speaking, you all get

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Speaker 3: Oh Dom, Okay, I appreciate you sharing that, and it

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Speaker 3: made me think of a couple other things. I feel

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Speaker 2: the process, right, y'all know, that's like my favorite phrase,

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Speaker 3: Hey lady, have you ever been listening to the podcast

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Speaker 3: I often talk about how we wish we could bring

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Speaker 2: I know that some of the conversations that we've had

432
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 2: over the years is Okay, how do we want to

433
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: frame this because like, for me, like I'm a licensed

434
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: therapist out here in these streets, like, and what does

435
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: that look like for someone to see a therapist openly

436
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: talking about sets, right, or even sharing more about their

437
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: personal lives Because what we were taught in school was

438
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 2: that you have to be kind of like a blank

439
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: slate and people don't get to know who you really are.

440
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: And as I reflect back over the course of these

441
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: years and also just thinking about, like, you know, I'm

442
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,719
Speaker 2: forty now, and just from like a developmental like growth

443
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: person perspective, just for myself, witnessing within myself this level

444
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: of no fucks right, and recognizing that I have become

445
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: way more comfortable in my skin in terms of who

446
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: I am and recognize and becoming more comfortable in showing

447
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 2: all of who I am in professional settings, right, and

448
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: wanting to also bring that to the podcast and showing

449
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: other women that it's safe, that it's Okay, to have

450
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: a whole PhD out here in these streets and participate

451
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: in to our church.

452
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that is so important. Don I'm so glad

453
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: you mentioned that because that's definitely another aspect that we

454
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: talked about, celebrating the multifaceted women. And I know when

455
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: we first started the podcas cast, we were really on

456
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 3: the fence about we were really mindful right about our

457
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: our what is it our reputation, but also the perception

458
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: of us. And I remember us having a conversation where

459
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 3: we were like, Okay, I know for me, before I,

460
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 3: you know, joined this cold venture with you, Dom, I

461
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: had previous brands and I would say they were very clean,

462
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: like I didn't talk. I would I had a certain

463
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: polished image that I wanted to portray because even though

464
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm blackshit and I got my Ratchets side, and my

465
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 3: best friend is known about this since we were team

466
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: that like before we were teenagers. I am also like

467
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: one of the eldest I guess you could say like

468
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like viewed as like the eldest, right,

469
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: and my siblings look up to me, and I have

470
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: young people. As a motivational speaker, I would be going

471
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 3: into schools, and so I was very mindful about when

472
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm putting online and how I'm portraying myself. But like

473
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: you said, now I don't know if it's about something

474
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: about the thirties and the stage that I'm in. But

475
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: now I'm in a space where I'm like, I'm not

476
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: living for anyone else, and I've started to slowly come

477
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 3: out in a way into who I really am. And

478
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: although I'm not going to share all the aspects with everyone,

479
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: there is a lot more that I want to share.

480
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 3: And so I've been slowly, like on social media, priming

481
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 3: people like, hey, my brand is no longer for young people.

482
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 3: Don't tell you girl, Oh don't say that. Don't give

483
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 3: me listen girl, I might be poor, girl, don't get

484
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: me started. I might it might be wild when I'm forty,

485
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: because let me tell you, it already feels wild right now.

486
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 3: But I've been slowly telling people like, don't tell your

487
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: kids that on the role model because people used to

488
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: always say like, oh, my daughter, I want to be

489
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: like you when you grow up. I'm like, don't tell

490
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: her that now. And although even I have a even

491
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: though I have a daughter dom and even though I'm married,

492
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: they're still I think that it's still important to be

493
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: an individual and figure out who you are as a

494
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: as a being and not by the roles that you're

495
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: tied to. And so now, like I've posted some twerking

496
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: videos now and I'm letting people know, like y'all want

497
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: see more this ass. I'm in a gym working. I'm

498
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: gonna say, yn't want see more ass, Okay, but I

499
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: want people to know that one like you said, you

500
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: can be a professional woman and there's a time and

501
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: a place for everything, and who knows. Like at our

502
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: live event tomorrow, we're going to be on stage sharing

503
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 3: our stories and after we're going to be working at

504
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: ass in t Work Church because we're having a t

505
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: Work workshop Lady after our live event for the VIP session.

506
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, Dom, I think that celebrating the multifaceted woman

507
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: is amazing and I think it's important. And I love

508
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: the fact that we've had ministers on the show like

509
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: doctor Tama and we're able to ask her during the

510
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: old you blatchet segment, you're going to work or you're

511
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: going two step, and I think she says she's going

512
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 3: to do both right, and so being able to see

513
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: these educated black women who are showcasing other aspects of

514
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: themselves that exist within many of us. I think it's

515
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: so liberating, and I think that it's also a spectrum

516
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: dom Like everyone doesn't have to be online to working

517
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: that if they don't want to. But I think that

518
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: if some of us feel inclined to do that and

519
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: express that sensuality and that sexuality, it's okay. It's not

520
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: for everyone, but for those that it is for. Do

521
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: you have a thing booth?

522
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, And I think it's about creating space for

523
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: who it is for right, recognizing like you said, that

524
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: there is there is a spectrum, there is We are

525
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: not monolithic. There are so many ways in which all

526
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: of us, as black women, as people in the world

527
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: can exist, and our intention is to create that space

528
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: for black women to be their fullest selves without judgment.

529
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: I have a question for you, don So. I know

530
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: within myself one of the things that as I'm building

531
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: this new brand for myself and figuring out how much

532
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: of them myself do I want to share with the world,

533
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: What does it look like? Do I want to start

534
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: the OnlyFans not necessarily to be like show my pussy

535
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: and nothing craze like that, because that's that's a bit,

536
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 3: that's that's a lot for me. But again, no judgment

537
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: to those that might do that. That's just not where

538
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: I am. But I might work my ass on there,

539
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I don't I'm still trying to

540
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: figure out what it looks like. For My question for

541
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 3: you is when we see people like make the Stallion, right,

542
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 3: we see our tworking online, we see our already working online, right.

543
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: I see in the comments there's like a it's kind

544
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: of going back and forth. Right. There are some people saying, oh, yeah,

545
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: get a girl, your body looks fine, work that ass whatever,

546
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: and then they're at the comments that oh my gosh,

547
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: that's all she ever do. All she do is for

548
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: a grass. And I'm very mindful of the dialogue there.

549
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: And I know that some people are triggered by women

550
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 3: showing their bodies and twerking. So I want to know,

551
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 3: what do you think about that conversation around oh why

552
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: they always got to be talking, or just around women

553
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: having ownership of their bodies and expressing it in the

554
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 3: way they want to. So if someone wants to shoulder

555
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: pus see wherever they want to show it, Like, what

556
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: are your thoughts on that whole conversation?

557
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: Like there is a space for everyone. And I think

558
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: the thing is is that because of the society that

559
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: we live in, this patriarchal masculine, you know, society where

560
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: it's how are things catered to heterosexual men?

561
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

562
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: And it is not about them? Can we stop making

563
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: it about the men?

564
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: How do we do that? Just sound clear or just

565
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: so we're all clear?

566
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: So I think how we stop making it about them

567
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: is we stop caring about what they say, and we

568
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: stop formulating our opinions based on them, right, And I

569
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: want to be clear that this is a more nuanced

570
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: and complex conversation around how men engage with women and how.

571
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: You know, there's conversations back and forth about well she

572
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: should be women should be covered up, and you know,

573
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: how they dress it determines the attention that they get.

574
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: We should learn to reign in ourselves, rein in our

575
00:32:51,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: own judgments, and allow people to be themselves, allow people

576
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: to express who they want to be, who they authentically are. Listen,

577
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: if if I had an ass like make the sallience,

578
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: you might see more on my ass out here on

579
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: these streets like come on, come on, you know body positivity, like.

580
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 3: And you know dom I think about Caribbean culture, right,

581
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: and I think about people who are raised around that environment. Okay,

582
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: so of course being in San Francisco, right, we just

583
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: have pride and then we also have like the Falsehood

584
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: Street Fair here every year, and you see people walking

585
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: around new like we saw somebody but as naked woman

586
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: walking on the street, but as naked or her backpack on.

587
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: And part of me, I'm always mindful of the kids.

588
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: So and when I say everything I'm saying, lady, it's

589
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: always like protect the kids. Right, there are certain things,

590
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: especially without context, I think kids just don't need to

591
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 3: be exposed to or see. But when we were talking

592
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: about adults here, I'm like, if they are certain things

593
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: are normalized, like you're to sing titties and asks and

594
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: stuff like that, it's not a big deal to you.

595
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: So I like, I love kids.

596
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: If it's normalized for kids that's cheat to see people

597
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: walking around nude, then it's not. If it's normalized, then

598
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: it's not taboo.

599
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: It's not like this icky thing that we have to

600
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 3: hide from. And I do think that if it's normalized,

601
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 3: then it's not a big deal because I love showing

602
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: off my body and there's I mean, I've worked so

603
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: hard on it, and I'm like, I want to show

604
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: this body off. It's sexy. I'm not gonna look like

605
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: this when I'm eighty. So I'm like, I better get this,

606
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: I better show off and do my thing. And I

607
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: love to do it for myself, but also just to

608
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: be able to share. And so when I think about

609
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: that dom it makes me. It makes me think about

610
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: the fact that, like you said, when we do create

611
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: space for that, it becomes normalized, right, So, and I

612
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: find myself really trying to restrain myself. So for instance,

613
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: when I wear something outside like I probably only wore

614
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: wrang shorts and a stuff like one time, and the

615
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: one time I walk outside with shorts on, somebody calls

616
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 3: out the window, and of course it's a guy, and

617
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn Joe.

618
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: Also to degrees half the year, I'm sorry.

619
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: That's true. Yea coldas hell code is true here. But

620
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: it's like I feel like a lot of times it's

621
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: the men that make it difficult to really be in

622
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: our in our full selves and show off the way

623
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: we want to because it's always like, oh, is this

624
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: person going to try to They already try to talk

625
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: to you when you walk down the street, right, cat

626
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: calling and all that, but you don't feel safe sometimes,

627
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 3: And it makes me think about Suki Hannah, right, Suki

628
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Hannah is a contract I want to say. She's like

629
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: a controversial rapper and influencer, I guess, And she's done

630
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: a lot of sexually. She's had a lot of sexually

631
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: explicit content online, and she's very open about sex and

632
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 3: what she desires and all these things, and she says

633
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: a lot of things. I believe it's shock value, right.

634
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: But there was an incident recently where she was on

635
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: a podcast and she was also at an event and

636
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 3: these men were just coming on to her in a

637
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: way that you could see that she was visibly uncomfortable

638
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 3: and she wasn't interested in the attention they were giving her.

639
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: And so they were conversation online with people going back

640
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: and forth about well, she's so sexual, da da da,

641
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: And I was just like, y'all really got it twisted.

642
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 3: Just because a woman is sexual and can come online

643
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: and say, you know, I like to suck dick or

644
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 3: whatever it might be, doesn't mean that that means all

645
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: the dicks in the world, like she wants y'all lined

646
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: up at her door, which it fix out like no,

647
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: whoever she gives consent to and who she's interested in,

648
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: that's who she's referring to. And I think, like you've said,

649
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: a lot of it, a lot of it comes back

650
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: to men and them being reprogrammed to realize that we

651
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: are not commodities. Just because you see something that looks

652
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: good to you doesn't mean that you have to yo.

653
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: You don't need to say anything like keep your thoughts

654
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: in your hands to yourself, and if a woman is interested,

655
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: she'll engage, or maybe she'll give you a signal, she'll

656
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: let you know that it's okay. So I think that

657
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: a lot of it does have to do with just

658
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 3: society in general having like a reprogramming of the way

659
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 3: that we think about women and sexuality and body autonomy

660
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: and things like that, what are you thinking?

661
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: And I think that that's exactly why we created this podcast,

662
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: right that we created it so that it would be

663
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: a space for black women in particular to feel comfortable,

664
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: to feel safe, to feel welcomed, two be their authentic selves,

665
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: and to see from the from the conversations that we

666
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: have to see themselves reflected in the topics that we covered, right, Yeah,

667
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: and and know that there there is space for black

668
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: women to be whoever it is you feel comfortable being.

669
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: So te Yes, I'm gonna switch it up a little bit. Okay, So,

670
00:37:51,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: over the course of these five years, right in creating

671
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: this space for black women, right, creating the space where

672
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: they are feeling healed, empowered and resilient. And lady, if

673
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: you didn't catch that, that is the her acronym healing, empowerment, resilience.

674
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: And what are the lessons or some of the things

675
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: that you've learned from us being in business together over

676
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: these last five years.

677
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a really great question. I low key wish

678
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: I would have prepared for this because I know I'm

679
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: going to listen back to this and be like, oh damn,

680
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: I should have said this. But let's just let's just

681
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: go off the episode every episode, right, Okay, So I'm

682
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: gonna say Number one is the power of delegation and

683
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 3: having a team. Oh so, I just was reminded so

684
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 3: greatful for our team. Shout out to Jewels and Ashley,

685
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 3: Daniel and Jay, Like our team is so helpful because

686
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: they really allow us to When you have a team,

687
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: that allows you to focus more on the strategic side

688
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: of the business, right and it frees you up to

689
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: be able to do more. And so we were hands on,

690
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: like extremely hands on doing all the things solo in

691
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: the beginning, and we were when we were able to

692
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 3: get a team that was really impactful for us. I

693
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: would say having a team and delegation, I would say, no,

694
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: like I don't I don't know if we can always

695
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 3: cut this out if you feel like this is too

696
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 3: much information to share, but I feel like we have.

697
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: We didn't start this podcast to be like make money.

698
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't pay ourselves. We're not like, yeah,

699
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: we're not like profitable, but we we've invested thousands of

700
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: dollars into this podcast to get started. And now that

701
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: we have sponsorships and we're making money, our money goes

702
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: to our team because we have to pay the people

703
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: that work with us, and then it goes back into

704
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: the business. So we're not making any money. We have

705
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: a live show tomorrow that we're hosting. Not yet, yeah,

706
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 3: not yet, but like just so y'all know, we're five

707
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 3: years into this and this is where we are. We're

708
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: still working full time, we're still hustling. But when you

709
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 3: think about people just dom and you might be able

710
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 3: to shout out some names. When you think about people

711
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: who are super successful now, they was grinded for a

712
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: long time. Oftentimes right, they were grinding for a long time.

713
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: And some people don't want to travel that journey and

714
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: they just want to see the end result. And so

715
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 3: I'm appreciative of this journey that we've had because once

716
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: we get to the millions, and once we get to

717
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: the you know, we find our team out first class

718
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: and we're doing all that will be so much more

719
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: appreciative of that stage because we've gone through, We've been

720
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: in the trenches. So I would say, okay, we got delegation,

721
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: we have investing in ourselves, I would say also building

722
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: our relationship outside of the podcast, I think that's important,

723
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 3: and also just thinking about what type of relationship do

724
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: we want to have, because I do think that sometimes

725
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 3: you're in relationship with someone or you work with someone

726
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: and maybe you're just like, you know what, I like

727
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: us being professional professional colleagues and keeping it at that.

728
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: But I know we also connect outside of work, outside

729
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: of the podcast and create space and time to have

730
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: one on one time where we're prioritizing our connection or

731
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 3: we're catching up on the t of our lives. Because

732
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: it be juicy, y'all think we talk about shit on

733
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: this podcast, and shall we talk about outside be juicy?

734
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: It be juicy, So stuff like that. I feel that

735
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: there might be another one. But I'm going to ask

736
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 3: you the same question, don what have you learned about

737
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: being a business together for the past five years.

738
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna piggyback off of the last the last one

739
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: that you mentioned and just being intentional about building the relationship.

740
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: You know, what I appreciate is that what we've cultivated

741
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: with our team as well, that we have looked at

742
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: how we are treated on the various full time jobs

743
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: that we've had, and we have taken the lessons from

744
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: that and brought that into how we show up as

745
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: business owners and bosses with our team. And I'm very

746
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: proud of how we engage with our team that we

747
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: still clearly are very about our business, but we are

748
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: also people first. We put people.

749
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: First our team, but also I think about our interview processes,

750
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: like when we've interviewed folks, we have been so intentional

751
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: with the you know, how you get the rejection email,

752
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: which we call I forget. I think we call it

753
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 3: something else. But we've been so intentional about how we

754
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: deliver the news, and we want people to feel dignified.

755
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: So I think we do a good job of treating

756
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 3: people the way we want to be treated. And if

757
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: someone doesn't want to be treated the way we want

758
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: to be treated, we get feedback on how do they

759
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: want to be treated, so we can treat them the

760
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: way they want to be treated. So I didn't mean

761
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 3: to interrupt down, but I had to piggyback off of that.

762
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 3: Anything else that you feel like you've learned from this

763
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: business relationship and just us being in business over the

764
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 3: past five years five years, damn, I know, I know.

765
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: I think about communication and the importance of communication right

766
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: that we have to because we are running this business together.

767
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: We have to communicate when things are getting in the

768
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 2: way of us being able to show up right when

769
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: things are going really well. Because I think we're also

770
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: like part of our communication with each other is we

771
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: give all the feedback, right, so it's and we keep

772
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: each other abreast of what is going on. So when

773
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: there's good things happening personally and professionally, we're sharing that. Right.

774
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 2: When there are things that might be interfering with how

775
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: we might show up, we share that. And when there

776
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 2: are things that we might need support with, we communicate

777
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: that as well. Like we like, we are constantly in communication,

778
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: and it's been a lesson for me in how do

779
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: you really want to show up in your relationships?

780
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: Right?

781
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: And so there's that the communication, the intentionality and the relationships,

782
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: and then the final thing is protecting your business and

783
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 2: your brand, and so thinking about you know, we were

784
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: in conversation earlier with our trademark attorneys shout out to

785
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: Rookie the Plug and how important it was for us

786
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: to trademark our name, and I think about that process

787
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: of we started out as her Space podcasts and some

788
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 2: people still call us her Space and makes sense because

789
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: you look at our all of our social media handles,

790
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: our email account, all of that still says her Space, right.

791
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: But once we learned that we couldn't trademark her Space

792
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: and we needed to pivot, as we mentioned on our

793
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: in our conversation with Rookie, like that involves some grieving

794
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: to allow us to say okay, well, we've been at

795
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: this for almost two years and now we have to

796
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: change what and then saying, okay, well wait, this is

797
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: an opportunity to rebrand because we also learned right around

798
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: that same time that the logo that we had that

799
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: we paid someone to create for is they actually didn't

800
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: create that. They actually pulled it off of the internet

801
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: somewhere and decided to put our name on it and

802
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: sell it to us. And so you know, those were

803
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: those were learning lessons, right, like how do you really

804
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: protect your brand?

805
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: Excellent don I'm so happy you shared that. I do

806
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: want us to talk a bit about what we look

807
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: forward to in the next few years, but I do

808
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: just pivot. I'm gonna pivot real quick. Down, and just

809
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: to lady as you listen, I just want to also

810
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: emphasize the fact that I don't know why I feel

811
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: emotional right now, but the work that we do right

812
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: to release this podcast every Friday for the past five years,

813
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 3: it takes an incredible amount of work. Like down, I'm

814
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: thinking about the consistency, the consistency, but I'm being like

815
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 3: also as energizing as it is to have this brand

816
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 3: and to be able to do this work, and what

817
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: a privilege. It is like I'd be so tired sometimes,

818
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: like we're going through a very rough like not rough,

819
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: but like a very busy season right now. So working

820
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: full time, I have a ton of personal stuff going on,

821
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: like so much personal stuff that's like weighing on many

822
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: aspects of my life. And then we have full time jobs.

823
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: You got family, you know you got family, Several people

824
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: are pulling on you and asking for stuff, and then

825
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: we're planning a live event in the midst of all this,

826
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: And I think about the fact that this morning, at

827
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: seven o'clock, right, we were up to do an interview.

828
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: And let's be clear, the interview started at seven, so

829
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: we were up the well before that to be ready

830
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: for the interview.

831
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 3: Yes, so I was probably up at like five something,

832
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: getting prepped up, making sure my baby girl is good,

833
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: getting ready for the interview, then full time job, long

834
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: ast day doing work, then picking up the baby, getting

835
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: ready so we can meet now to record this podcast episode,

836
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 3: and then we still have live event stuff to do later.

837
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: So there are some days where I'm like, we're literally

838
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: like we are so looking forward to the day that

839
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: this really really, I mean, it's taken off already but

840
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: like where we go to the next level because it

841
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: is so it's so much work. It's a lot of work,

842
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: and I'm so grateful for our partnership because I feel

843
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: like there are ways in which you fill the gaps

844
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: and areas that I may miss, and we can divvy

845
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 3: up work and vice versa. And it's so nice to

846
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: have a team member that you can depend on, who's reliable,

847
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: who can have my social Security number and my address

848
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: and my personal information. Right, yeah, I don't like you

849
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: have my car, like my care taking my car go

850
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: do like I feel safe like that. You don't always

851
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: get that, and so to have that type of rapport

852
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 3: and connection, I'm so grateful for you, don and so

853
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: grateful for what we built together. And so I just

854
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: wanted to call out lady, like, yeah, it might look like,

855
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah, y'all pop and y'all got this, but this

856
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: shit takes a lot of fucking work. It takes so

857
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: much work and so much sacrifice, sacrifice the people don't

858
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 3: see all the time.

859
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: You know, yes, my table could tell you, like I

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Speaker 2: might be traveling to visit family, and it's like, wait,

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Speaker 2: hold on, y'all, I got a podcast thing.

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Speaker 3: I gotta do.

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Speaker 2: Keep it down, y'all, keep it down right, or they

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Speaker 2: might be visiting me and I might be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm about to be locked up in my room. I

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Speaker 2: need y'all to keep it down because I'm recording and

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Speaker 2: I can hear when y'all get loud and crazy. So

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Speaker 2: come on, now, keep it quiet. You not on an episode,

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Speaker 2: so keep it quiet, you know.

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Speaker 3: But I do want to say it does get better.

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Speaker 3: So keep pushing wherever you are on your journey, lady,

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Speaker 3: But just be realistic with yourself that there are going

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00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: to be some days that feel hard. You will have

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Speaker 3: some days when you be crying, okay, because we be crying,

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Speaker 3: I'll be crying. It's tough. But speaking of the things

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Speaker 3: that we are looking forward to, there's so much more

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Speaker 3: that we're looking forward to. And I'm just going to

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Speaker 3: shout out a couple of things I do want to say. One,

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Speaker 3: On July eighth, which is Saturday. If you're listening to

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Speaker 3: this episode, that means it's tomorrow, okay, at seven pm

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Speaker 3: in Oakland, California, we are hosting our very first live

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Speaker 3: show in Oakland, Okay. So we're so excited. We're going

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Speaker 3: to have the vibes. Okay, we got drinks, we got refreshments,

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Speaker 3: we have photographer, we have Domina. Are going to be

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Speaker 3: on stage doing the live show, but we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: icebreakers and a chance for you to build community and

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Speaker 3: network with other folks. And then we're gonna have a

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Speaker 3: VIP experience where we're going to have Brazy the Twork

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Speaker 3: Goddess the Twork Queen herself is going to be in

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Speaker 3: the building. Hey, Brazy, and we're gonna be tworking at

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Speaker 3: ass after we get off stage, and it's going to

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00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: be such an amazing experience, just positivity and good vibes.

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Speaker 3: So head on over to her space podcast dot com

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Speaker 3: so you can get your tickets and we hope to

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Speaker 3: see you there and meet you in person. So we

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Speaker 3: hope to do more of that. But the thing is, lady,

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Speaker 3: as you listen, like if you're a huge fan of

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Speaker 3: the show, we need to hear from you. We need

899
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: to see your support, and the best way for you

900
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Speaker 3: to communicate with us is Instagram. That's typically where we are,

901
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: that's where we pull our audience. So be engaged with

902
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Speaker 3: our content, like when you you know, I know you busy,

903
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: life is busy but if you're on a toilet one

904
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Speaker 3: day and you're just like, oh, I gotta take a poop,

905
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 3: and you just gonna be there anyway it happens. We

906
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Speaker 3: human yo girl, go to our but go to her

907
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: space podcast on Instagram, go like some posts, go comm

908
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: and go see what our story is doing. Because the

909
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: more feedback you provide us with, the better we'll be

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00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 3: able to cater the content to you. But also, we

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Speaker 3: can't be hosts in live shows if people don't show up,

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Speaker 3: So we need y'all to really support wherever you are,

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Speaker 3: let us know what city to come through. Leave us

914
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Speaker 3: five star reviews on iTunes, like speak to us because

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Speaker 3: we are Our ears are wide open. We're here for you.

916
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: We created this for you, the same for us. We're

917
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Speaker 3: not making money yet, Okay, I told y'all this is

918
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Speaker 3: for you, so let us know so we can show up.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna be making money real soon. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would say the live show is one thing Dom.

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Speaker 3: What else are we looking forward to the years?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're hoping to host retreats right like, we want

923
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Speaker 2: to be able to spend days with you all and

924
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: really just being in community and focusing on our wellness

925
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Speaker 2: and our healing and our growth together, right, Like we

926
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Speaker 2: want to be able to find ourselves in a nice,

927
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Speaker 2: beautiful island location somewhere where all the meals are provided

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Speaker 2: for us and everything is for our wellness, right and

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Speaker 2: there's massages and we do yoga, and we go on

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Speaker 2: walks and something tedious. But we drink and maybe we

931
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Speaker 2: throw that ass in a circle at the end of

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Speaker 2: the night because we having a good time.

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Speaker 3: A little bit of weed, Okay, a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit yeah, yeah, you know, whatever your pleasure.

935
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Speaker 3: Whatever your pleasure, some edibles, whatever it is, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: We want to continue to build community with you. We

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Speaker 2: want to be able to not just have you all

938
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Speaker 2: listening to us, but we want you all to be

939
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Speaker 2: able to actually see us and engage with us, because

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Speaker 2: we are like, we're like real people out here. We're

941
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Speaker 2: normal people out here in these streets. Like we do

942
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Speaker 2: everything that you do. We create this podcast, we create

943
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Speaker 2: our episodes for you, lady, and so the live show.

944
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Speaker 2: We want to host retreats and if you have ideas

945
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Speaker 2: on things that you would like to see us do again,

946
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Speaker 2: let us know because cultivating her Space is your space.

947
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Speaker 3: Mike Tribe. And with that Domini. Are we done? Should

948
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Speaker 3: we head to the head to the after Sure? So

949
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Speaker 3: visit her Space podcast dot com pick on Patreon if

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Speaker 3: you want to tune into the after show or see

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Speaker 3: us on the video. And if you don't know what

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Speaker 3: we look like and you're listening and you feel the

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Speaker 3: vibes to go to our instagrams you can yes as well.

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Speaker 2: Hey lady, it's doctor dom here from the Cultivating her

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Speaker 2: Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the state

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Speaker 2: of California and contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so,

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Speaker 2: please reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brusard dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's d R D O M I N I q

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Speaker 2: look forward to hearing from you. Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: Please note that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice,

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Speaker 2: self empowerment, and mental health, but is by no means

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Speaker 2: meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal relationship

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Speaker 2: with a trained mental health provider. If you are someone

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Speaker 2: you know is in need of mental health care, please

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Speaker 2: visit a Therapy for Black Girls directory psychology today or

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Speaker 2: contact your insurance provider.

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Speaker 3: If you liked what you heard and want to keep

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Speaker 3: the conversation going, visit our website at herspacepodcast dot com

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Speaker 3: and be sure to click the Patreon tab to get

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Speaker 3: access to video content bonuses in our weekly after show

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Speaker 3: and before we Meet Again, repeat after me, I am

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Speaker 3: worthy of a happy life.