Speaker 1: I Do Part Two is a unique podcast that is
Speaker 1: all about finding love again. Maybe you didn't get it
Speaker 1: right the first time, or maybe you had love and
Speaker 1: you lost it and now you are getting back out
Speaker 1: into the dating scene. Well, I'm one of your hosts,
Speaker 1: Jana Kramer, and today I wanted to touch base with one
Speaker 1: of our celebrity mentors you love her on this podcast,
Speaker 1: former Real Housewife of New York Ellie Benzimone. Kelly, Can
Speaker 1: I just first just can we just talk about how
Speaker 1: beautiful you looked at the iHeartRadio jingle Balls, jingle Balls,
Speaker 1: jingle Bells, jingle Ball jingle Balls. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: and it was so funny my husband when you know,
Speaker 1: I had my husband come in and meet everyone because
Speaker 1: he hasn't met that I Do Part two crew. I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I've seen her. I was like,
Speaker 1: she was probably up like on a you know, like
Speaker 1: you probably had her on your walls or something because
Speaker 1: she's she's she's a model, she's beauty. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like, she's she's a beautiful lady. I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, she's stunning.
Speaker 2: Thank you, that's so nice.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you guys, youse are the greatest couple.
Speaker 3: You guys are so sweet and loving and just oh god,
Speaker 3: you're just like the perfect couple.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. I mean that's very sweet to say.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's do you actually believe that
Speaker 1: there's a perfect couple.
Speaker 2: I believe. I mean you guys have that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you guys have just like nice, really just
Speaker 3: quality energy. It's just like, you know, he's really respectful
Speaker 3: of you and you're really respectful of him.
Speaker 2: And I just think that's just like those are that's
Speaker 2: those are like a couple.
Speaker 3: Goals when you have like the you know i mutual admiration,
Speaker 3: mutual respect.
Speaker 2: That's just I mean, thank you, and it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's Jenny has.
Speaker 1: The word too perfect, is yeah, and is yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm just the one odd one out. Oh not at all.
Speaker 1: But let's let's talk about Oh oh my, says the model,
Speaker 1: says the you know, beautiful, tall, thin model. So let's
Speaker 1: let's take it back to Los Angeles because we let's
Speaker 1: well we'll take it back all all the way to LA.
Speaker 1: But also, you know, you shared some things on the
Speaker 1: last podcast that we did that you know, you've been
Speaker 1: kind of talking to two different people, so I want
Speaker 1: to I want to touch on that, but I also
Speaker 1: want to see you know, we had some listeners come
Speaker 1: out and what was what what was the vibe? Like
Speaker 1: did how did it? How did it go for for
Speaker 1: you and and the listeners there? Was there anything that
Speaker 1: you noticed or anything happened that I didn't see because
Speaker 1: I was truth be told. I you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: kind of old in the area where it's like I
Speaker 1: always prefer to go home and be in my cozy's.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what, babe, I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: a VI piece that we're invited to. Let's go up
Speaker 1: there and just have some fun. And I'm so glad
Speaker 1: we did because it was genuinely such a good time.
Speaker 1: But I saw you guys over there, and you know,
Speaker 1: I was I was rootin and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it's going good. But what was
Speaker 1: your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I saw you and your cozy slippers,
Speaker 2: so you're I did that.
Speaker 1: I was like, that was the only way with me,
Speaker 1: I'll make it. I'm like, if I'm going up there,
Speaker 1: I'm changing my heels to slippers so I can still
Speaker 1: all still rock the outfit, but like I need to
Speaker 1: be somewhat cozy, right.
Speaker 2: I love that you look so good, and I was
Speaker 2: super jealous.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, it's like I'm like in
Speaker 3: these like sky I was like, literally, I think it
Speaker 3: was like six to one on Friday night, which was
Speaker 3: which was fun and tall and they're just you know,
Speaker 3: the guests were just they're really they're really really nice girls,
Speaker 3: really really nice and they've been through so much. So
Speaker 3: when we were we were in the car, you weren't
Speaker 3: in the car with us, and I sat in the
Speaker 3: back with them and was just listening to their stories
Speaker 3: and they were telling me their stories I mean of
Speaker 3: just infidelity, and I mean.
Speaker 2: I was shocked. I was really.
Speaker 3: Shocked at to hear the stories that these guests had
Speaker 3: gone through.
Speaker 2: I mean I was really really shocked.
Speaker 3: And so that even gave me more of an impetus
Speaker 3: to be like, let's have fun at ihear and just
Speaker 3: you know, have so.
Speaker 2: Much fun ging gole ball.
Speaker 3: You know, I always feel like I was actually talking
Speaker 3: to my young my oldest daughter about this. I always
Speaker 3: feel like when you're in a situation like that, it's
Speaker 3: not always like you're looking to date someone. But it's
Speaker 3: just nice to just genuinely be open to meeting a
Speaker 3: lot of different people. And you know, I saw a
Speaker 3: lot of people that I knew and I just was
Speaker 3: literally walking around with them and I introduced them to
Speaker 3: Like I literally was just smiling at people and people
Speaker 3: were like hi and I. It was literally just introducing
Speaker 3: them to absolutely everyone that was responding to you know,
Speaker 3: six foot one smiling woman. It was It was really,
Speaker 3: it was fun. We had a really really good time.
Speaker 3: We had a really good time. He one one guy
Speaker 3: was there and he was like talking to us and
Speaker 3: he was having a great He had like serious jewelry
Speaker 3: game on, like these massive diamonds and I was talking
Speaker 3: about this jewey and his wife came out. She was
Speaker 3: like what did he say. I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: but that jewelry game is firing. She was really cute
Speaker 3: and funny, and so we had a really nice time
Speaker 3: just like chatting with them. And afterwards they were like,
Speaker 3: you can't you told you were talking to the wife.
Speaker 3: I'm like, so, I'm like, by the way, like you're
Speaker 3: single and I'm single. You never know who people know
Speaker 3: and they could be like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: She was really fun.
Speaker 3: She you know, was just talking to us and she's
Speaker 3: you know, just having a good time, and like I
Speaker 3: couldn't care less if she's married or not. Like I'm
Speaker 3: not trying to go after her husband. I'm just having
Speaker 3: meeting people and having a good time. So we had
Speaker 3: had a lot of fun. You know, I had a
Speaker 3: lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Introducing them to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But with like what you just said, some of my
Speaker 1: best like memories of even going out is I've met
Speaker 1: actually girlfriends from going out and being places. And so
Speaker 1: whether it's a love connection or you know, a man connections,
Speaker 1: it's usually it's a people connection. You know, I met
Speaker 1: one of my best friends in the middle seat of
Speaker 1: a Southwest flight, you know. So it's like I think
Speaker 1: it's being open to any connection when you go up.
Speaker 3: I mean, they got to meet Teddy, they got to
Speaker 3: hang out, they were hanging out with me, They got
Speaker 3: to meet a lot of people that they probably wouldn't
Speaker 3: have met from you know, the Golden Bachelor and Bachelorette.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of people that they got to meet.
Speaker 3: And to your point, you know, you never know who
Speaker 3: you're going to meet and how you're going to meet people.
Speaker 3: And so I was just talking to everybody, and I
Speaker 3: think that's really I mean, just from my own experience,
Speaker 3: that's how you meet great people.
Speaker 2: It's just being out and about and.
Speaker 3: People just see your energy and feel your energy and
Speaker 3: you're having a good time. They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: that looks like a good crew. Let's get to know them.
Speaker 1: It was about the experience, and I think, like, you know,
Speaker 1: and for me, like, okay, obviously I'm there and my
Speaker 1: husband's on my arm, but like I got to sit
Speaker 1: next to Ali, you know, Larder, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's cool. Like I've always thought she's an amazing actress.
Speaker 1: And I took this was kind like and it took
Speaker 1: me a second. Well, she was like it took me
Speaker 1: kind of. I'm like, really weird when it comes to
Speaker 1: like people were there receipts or whatever, and you know,
Speaker 1: some of the interns were like do you want to
Speaker 1: sit down? Like no, no, like you are sitting like
Speaker 1: just because like you sit, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: so we stood up in the back like for for
Speaker 1: most of it, and then they got up and they're
Speaker 1: like no, sit down. I'm like no, like seriously. But
Speaker 1: then I'm like okay, fine, Like when you do that,
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, all right, fine, we'll sit now.
Speaker 1: So when we sat down, I notice is really beautiful
Speaker 1: blonde next to me, and they were they were trying
Speaker 1: to like take a photo, and I'm like, I'll take
Speaker 1: it for you. But when I took her phone to
Speaker 1: like take the photo, I was like, oh, that's Ali Larder,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I'm like, like, she's
Speaker 1: like I love her work, and well no, but and
Speaker 1: like I'm like, I know, she has no idea who
Speaker 1: I am. She's got to probably think that or she
Speaker 1: probably saw that I registered it while I'm taking their photo,
Speaker 1: you know what i mean, like her and her friend's photo.
Speaker 1: So I'm like this is cool. But then I'm like
Speaker 1: her foot her camera was kind of dirty, so I
Speaker 1: like cleaned it, you know what I mean, and like
Speaker 1: it sound like and then like I took, I took
Speaker 1: a picture of them. But that to that point, it
Speaker 1: was like it was an experience and like I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. I was like that was cool. I got
Speaker 1: to like have an interaction with her, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I've got to you know, run and have you know,
Speaker 1: see Teddy again and give her a hug and squeeze
Speaker 1: her and then see you know, the the Golden Bachelorettes, Like.
Speaker 2: It was there just so fun there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just they're so fun, so beautiful and so
Speaker 1: vibrant and you know, so yeah. I think it's all
Speaker 1: about when you go into dating worlds to remember the
Speaker 1: experience of it, because there's always going to be a
Speaker 1: new experience one one doesn't look the same. And to
Speaker 1: go on that. Was there anything that came up for
Speaker 1: you in La? Were there any old flames that might
Speaker 1: have texted you, Kelly, or did you have any run
Speaker 1: ins when you were there?
Speaker 2: One of my clos was like, oh, let's let's get drinks.
Speaker 2: And I'm like okay.
Speaker 3: And we're sitting there and he's telling me how he
Speaker 3: owns this vineyard and I'm like that's great, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just listening to him. And then he was telling
Speaker 3: me how he's, uh, he's a player.
Speaker 1: I was like, what what guy wants? What guy just
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 3: And I'm just like that doesn't make me. First of all,
Speaker 3: you're my client.
Speaker 2: Second, that doesn't make me wanting to jump up on you.
Speaker 2: And then and then he goes, you know how.
Speaker 3: Old was he, he said, in like sixties, mid sixties.
Speaker 3: Then he goes to me again, that makes sense, Telly.
Speaker 3: He's like, I really, I really don't like brunettes. But
Speaker 3: I'm okay with you.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we are not. I'm not allowing you
Speaker 1: to date him. I'm sorry. I'm going to pull the
Speaker 1: mother card on this and you cannot date him. And
Speaker 1: it's not for you who says that.
Speaker 2: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I think that you know, listen, as hard as it
Speaker 3: is for girls, it's the same thing with guts. And
Speaker 3: you know, we were talking, you know about like, you know,
Speaker 3: our game, That's what we were.
Speaker 2: Talking about together.
Speaker 3: And you know, some people just think that this kind
Speaker 3: of like being aloof or saying things like I'm so great,
Speaker 3: who are you?
Speaker 2: Is going to make the other person like you more?
Speaker 3: But does Like I can see right through that. I'm like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, chat with you and have.
Speaker 3: Fun and you know, have a glass of wine and
Speaker 3: talk to you about what you're where you're you know,
Speaker 3: what you're doing with your real estate career.
Speaker 2: But I'm just not like that is not happening. That
Speaker 2: does not work for me.
Speaker 1: That's not happening. But at the concert, though, I did
Speaker 1: hear from someone saying that you were a little flirty.
Speaker 1: Who were you flirting with?
Speaker 2: I don't know who was I find that's amazing. I
Speaker 2: was flirting. I love it.
Speaker 1: You don't even know.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: There was a photographer that I know that he's so
Speaker 3: cute and he's always like he's like, hell, you're very flirtatious.
Speaker 3: I think that, Like, I'm just very easy around men.
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know if you knows. I
Speaker 3: have a twin brother, and so I'm just very relaxed
Speaker 3: around men.
Speaker 1: Like the diamond guy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, the
Speaker 3: diamond guy that was married, yeah, Kelly, I didn't know,
Speaker 3: never ring. And then his wife came out and I
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, he's got great game, he's got diamonds
Speaker 3: and he's fun and I know that guy.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, got it.
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 3: You know. I always say too, like you never know,
Speaker 3: like who you're going to meet and who they might know,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like you may be
Speaker 3: like he might be like, hey, you guys, like I'm married,
Speaker 3: but you should meet my friend.
Speaker 2: He's over there in the suite, like you never know,
Speaker 2: you don't know.
Speaker 3: I met a vegan farmer. He was the other another
Speaker 3: guy that like, I just smiled at him.
Speaker 2: He was like hey, and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I started starting, you know, striking up a conversation for
Speaker 3: the two guests, my two friends, my two new friends,
Speaker 3: and like, you know, he's telling me about being a
Speaker 3: vegan farmer. And that's when I found out about, you know,
Speaker 3: this whole thing with my with my love of gummy
Speaker 3: bears and how it's you know, completely over because everything
Speaker 3: is going to be all natural and healthy and my
Speaker 3: life is so much better.
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: But he was very cute and then yeah, and then
Speaker 3: the woman came out and she was like.
Speaker 2: That's my husband. I was like, okay, great.
Speaker 3: One thing about this whole thing about like meeting people
Speaker 3: that I'm married, is that if you're if you're married,
Speaker 3: if your husband or wife are married, and you can
Speaker 3: walk around and have fun with someone who's not, that's
Speaker 3: a true testament to the relationship you have with your wife.
Speaker 3: I Mean there's men that are like looking for people
Speaker 3: that's totally inappropriate if you're married, but like, if you
Speaker 3: can have fun with people in general and just like
Speaker 3: laugh with them, Like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with like,
Speaker 3: you know, smiling and like having like a fun little banter.
Speaker 2: With the opposite sex. Zero.
Speaker 3: What is wrong is engaging in inappropriate activity That is wrong,
Speaker 3: like being like hey, can I get your number exactly?
Speaker 1: Or if you find out that the person is you know, misleading,
Speaker 1: married or or you know, has a wife, that's when
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, you need to be respectful.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course.
Speaker 3: I mean I know, I've I've been married and I've
Speaker 3: had women be disrespectful to me and to my marriage,
Speaker 3: so I know what that feels like.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, same. But you like we're like same,
Speaker 1: same z is how does a girl up to a
Speaker 1: man at their own, you know, bachelor party and slide
Speaker 1: their number? Like that's just so disrespectful, Like don't don't
Speaker 1: go up to the groom, you know and give your
Speaker 1: number or have.
Speaker 2: The groom tell me like that he should have married me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, speaking of though, because we've both been in
Speaker 1: some you know, not great relationships with good not great men,
Speaker 1: what is the quality that you're most looking for now
Speaker 1: in a relationship from oh, from a man, Like, what's
Speaker 1: the quality that you are hoping like what's the number
Speaker 1: one quality you want them to have?
Speaker 2: You know, I was talking to my therapist today.
Speaker 3: We were talking about this exact question, and it's safety.
Speaker 2: It's just this emotion. I'm craving this emotional safety.
Speaker 3: It's like I I give this to my kids, to
Speaker 3: my friends, you know, I make them feel like they
Speaker 3: don't have they don't have anything in the world to
Speaker 3: worry about as long as I'm their friend.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like that.
Speaker 3: And that's one thing that I'm craving is just to
Speaker 3: be able to be like, hey, you had a great podcast,
Speaker 3: or it's reading outside, or you know, just stupid things
Speaker 3: that are just I just want to like include that
Speaker 3: person in my life with all of those different things
Speaker 3: that have happened, whether they're significant or insignificant. I mean
Speaker 3: basically every thing that happens to your partner significant if
Speaker 3: you really really care about them. And emotional safety, I
Speaker 3: think is something that like I've never had and I'm
Speaker 3: I'm craving it.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, No, I I definitely. And that's there's a
Speaker 1: there's such a safety like what it does for your soul.
Speaker 1: Having that safe safety, it gives you so much, like
Speaker 1: that peace is just that feels it's not chaotic, you know,
Speaker 1: like you can really just kind of rest and rest
Speaker 1: in peace, and that's a that's a really beautiful place
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that's like, but I'm looking
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: And I'm going that's the thing out of the two
Speaker 1: guys that you talked about, because on the last episode
Speaker 1: you talked about two guys that you or I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you're like deciding between, but you're also
Speaker 1: just entertaining both. Is there one that you feel more
Speaker 1: safe with? Like is that maybe where you'll where you'll
Speaker 1: end up or is it because I almost think, okay,
Speaker 1: and maybe this is wrong, But so I was talking
Speaker 1: to a guy when I was you know, and we
Speaker 1: were not official or anything like that. We were just
Speaker 1: kind of casually dating, and you know, and then I
Speaker 1: met Alan. I knew immediately. I was like, he's done.
Speaker 1: This is my person, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just knew, like I didn't even want
Speaker 1: to entertain anybody else. Well luctually that was even before.
Speaker 1: But at the time, like I was, wasn't talking to anyone,
Speaker 1: and then when I started talking to Alan, he kind
Speaker 1: of came back around. He's like texting me like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, no, like, I actually like,
Speaker 1: I don't want anything. I don't want to be with
Speaker 1: you at all. So is it do you think the
Speaker 1: fact that you're even kind of like hmming and hauling
Speaker 1: one or the other that neither one of them might
Speaker 1: not because it's like you don't have a strong pull
Speaker 1: for one.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that. I mean, I wish I could.
Speaker 2: I wish I could blame.
Speaker 3: Them, but I'm gonna have to blame myself for this
Speaker 3: at this time, you know, because we've only been I've
Speaker 3: only been going through this new metamorphosis for the past
Speaker 3: you know, month, six weeks, and so I'm starting to
Speaker 3: recognize the things that I want and that I I
Speaker 3: am going to get.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Whether these guys are the greatest guys in the world,
Speaker 3: you know, I really like both of them.
Speaker 2: I think they're great.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that one of them is really
Speaker 3: a really, really amazing guy. I just don't know like
Speaker 3: where he is and in terms of like where we
Speaker 3: would be in our life, because I mean, I want
Speaker 3: to get It's not people are like, do you want
Speaker 3: to get married? It's not that I want to get married,
Speaker 3: but I want a committed relationship and I want a
Speaker 3: family for my family. That's what I've always wanted to
Speaker 3: stay one. That's why I got divorced, Like, I want
Speaker 3: a family for my family. And so I'm looking for
Speaker 3: that man who is going to be that partner in
Speaker 3: love crime with me and Mike and me and my
Speaker 3: family and his family. And I'm getting closer to understanding
Speaker 3: what I really want. And one thing that my therapist
Speaker 3: and I were talking about today is just there's there's manifesting,
Speaker 3: which was so great when I wrote that letter to
Speaker 3: my future husband. It really put a different narrative in
Speaker 3: my head versus the you know what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2: What you know? People don't like me? Do I like them?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Just all of this.
Speaker 3: Self doubt And so now she was, She's like, I
Speaker 3: really want you to be proactive about talking positively about
Speaker 3: yourself and about what you really really want.
Speaker 1: And what you deserve too, because I think that's where
Speaker 1: I always went wrong, was I didn't think I deserved X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. You know, yeah, So.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm sorry for that.
Speaker 3: You're like such a I mean every time that we
Speaker 3: get to hang out together, I'm like, oh, I love her.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad that you're doing that manifestation though, because
Speaker 1: I do believe in that too. Like there is, yes,
Speaker 1: there's healing work, but there's also positive talk. And I
Speaker 1: think that's if you're going to positive time and like
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna find anyone, well, then you're not going
Speaker 1: to find anyone because you're you're not going to have
Speaker 1: the outlook to find someone.
Speaker 2: And I just think positive talk is really really important.
Speaker 3: And so you know where again, like to just answer
Speaker 3: your question, you know, I'm working really working hard on
Speaker 3: myself and I'm hoping that the people that are you
Speaker 3: know around me are seeing that.
Speaker 2: And you know, you don't know what's going to happen in.
Speaker 3: Life, but I feel really good about today and I'm
Speaker 3: going to feel even better about tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I mean, write it on a postcard. That's so good.
Speaker 2: It's so good ascard, I know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's good. Okay, let's go to just
Speaker 1: the people that are, you know, wanting some more dating advice.
Speaker 1: When you're out and you see a cute guy and
Speaker 1: you send over a drink to get his attention, have
Speaker 1: you done that before? Is that something that you've done.
Speaker 1: Have you ever? Actually I bought a drink for another
Speaker 1: guy and never, I mean I haven't either. I'm curious
Speaker 1: if guys like that boldness or not.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if men would like
Speaker 2: that boldness for me.
Speaker 3: I think that they would be kind of like, wow,
Speaker 3: who is that?
Speaker 2: What is she doing? I think that they would take
Speaker 2: it the wrong way to be honest.
Speaker 1: With you really, see, Okay, So I'm gonna play devil's
Speaker 1: advocate on this one because I almost look at you
Speaker 1: and I as I would be intimidated to talk to you. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: though you're lovely and I know you now because you're
Speaker 1: so beautiful and like you're strong and like if I
Speaker 1: was a guy, I might be a little and which
Speaker 1: also you want a strong guy, right, But I think
Speaker 1: it was I think if you've gotten the you know,
Speaker 1: guys are intimidated or by you or something, and it's
Speaker 1: like maybe it's okay to make the first move so
Speaker 1: that way they know that, like you want to be approached,
Speaker 1: because a lot of times, even though girls say they
Speaker 1: want to be approached, they really don't want to be approach.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just the theory.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting people.
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's some people that have said like that,
Speaker 3: you know that I'm I'm kind of intimidating, but then
Speaker 3: when people meet me, they're like, oh my god. No,
Speaker 3: not at all, Like they're like, oh my god. Everyone
Speaker 3: always wants to come talk to you. You're smiling, you're
Speaker 3: having a good time, You're always like engaging people, and
Speaker 3: when they do meet me, I mean, I'm I'm outwardly,
Speaker 3: I'm outwardly confident, but inwardly very very very very insecure
Speaker 3: really so so it's like, there'll meet me and but
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, listening to Jenny and she's like
Speaker 3: follow me in the car, and I'm like I would never.
Speaker 1: Could never out of crawled inside like yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so like I've always wanted to, like like with the
Speaker 1: guy like that, but like I don't have That's where
Speaker 1: I'm like insecure, Like, well, maybe they wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: follow me.
Speaker 2: Then I don't know what if he turned left?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is your biggest insecurity? Like you say, you're
Speaker 1: outwardly you know, confident, but you know, inside you know, insecure.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious, what is what is that insecurity piece?
Speaker 1: What is it telling you.
Speaker 3: It's telling me this is what we talked about before
Speaker 3: about the safety. It's like, are they are they really
Speaker 3: interested in knowing about me as.
Speaker 2: A person or me as you know.
Speaker 3: It's like when they talk about the idea of a person,
Speaker 3: like I think that and maybe this is just me
Speaker 3: being I don't know, insecure more insecure. It's just like
Speaker 3: I think that people just real like the idea. I
Speaker 3: get very very very Insecure's it? I just get rawly insecure.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm going to have thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 1: You know, I think we all deal with insecurities, and
Speaker 1: you know, we need to like speak truth into what
Speaker 1: the actual you know, truth is around it. And obviously
Speaker 1: we have amazing therapists that can help us do that
Speaker 1: and friends too.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know the real reason why I'm
Speaker 3: so insecure? The real reason that I'm so insecure is
Speaker 3: because when I went on television before social media, I
Speaker 3: had just gotten divorced and you know, obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: my ex husband was not faithful to me and I
Speaker 3: was you know, I had to put up with a
Speaker 3: lot of of infidelity for the sake of my girls,
Speaker 3: and so you know, I had the confidence to get
Speaker 3: divorced and happy that you know, he can be a
Speaker 3: father to him in the way that's good for him,
Speaker 3: and my girls are healthy and well. But then I
Speaker 3: wanted a television show where I was literally like laddered
Speaker 3: against a wall for having confidence and being able to say, like,
Speaker 3: I don't like when people talk badly to me. I
Speaker 3: was really really I was literally slammed up against the
Speaker 3: wall in terms of like socially, and people were like, oh,
Speaker 3: is she really that mean? And I'm like, no one
Speaker 3: ever in my life has ever called me mean ever,
Speaker 3: never never. Okay, maybe my kids when I won't give
Speaker 3: them what they want, but no person, even any guy,
Speaker 3: has never said that I'm mean. They've said I'm distant,
Speaker 3: they say that, you know, certain other things, but they've
Speaker 3: never no one ever has used those words, that word
Speaker 3: to describe me except for this what happened like literally culturally,
Speaker 3: and it was really it's been very, very very difficult
Speaker 3: to get past that and to get through that and
Speaker 3: to get to go to be on the other side
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's one thing that I've really really.
Speaker 1: That's it almost identified you in the in the wrong way,
Speaker 1: Like it's not who you are, but like you yet
Speaker 1: you've been ident you're label to identified as this when
Speaker 1: it's like you're fighting to be like that's not who
Speaker 1: I am, right, yeah, that's it's and that's hard to
Speaker 1: because it's it's such a like it's almost like you're
Speaker 1: being gas lit by other people, like always by other
Speaker 1: people and everybody. But it's like, but no, that's not and
Speaker 1: then you feel like you have to defend. But it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's exhausting real.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it was never like, oh, like, you know, you're
Speaker 3: so nice to say to give me a compliment.
Speaker 2: Most people do never do that.
Speaker 3: They're always like, oh, that's from that's from this, or
Speaker 3: she was like that and she was so mean to
Speaker 3: this person and she's mean, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, right, well, and at this you know, this stage.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of guys sorry to interrupt you,
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of guys because they think
Speaker 3: that's what it is, so they also kind of try
Speaker 3: to gaslight me too. And in the past like month
Speaker 3: and a half, I used to get gas lit and
Speaker 3: and like internalize it and be like oh my god,
Speaker 3: like that's how they see me, that's how they feel
Speaker 3: about me. That's how people sat to when I walk
Speaker 3: outside the street, that's what people think about me. And
Speaker 3: now I'm just like, no, that's not how people think
Speaker 3: about me. And it doesn't matter if they think about
Speaker 3: me like that anyway, right, I just I don't I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel different.
Speaker 3: I feel like I have a new shield or like
Speaker 3: like I said, like the metapomorphosis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's recognizing. And I think that's for anyone listening.
Speaker 1: There's always someone that said something about you that isn't true.
Speaker 1: They've spoken untruth into you because of something either they
Speaker 1: heard or they might have witnessed from a you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we're having a bad day or something. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know who
Speaker 1: you are, you know your own truth, and you know
Speaker 1: what's in your four walls. And that's always kind of
Speaker 1: whenever I get a little shaken by something that has
Speaker 1: been said, you know, allan's always like the four like
Speaker 1: that's that we know who is in the four walls,
Speaker 1: and that's right. Really, all the people that really matter
Speaker 1: to it's only like your family knows you are loved,
Speaker 1: and does anything else matter outside the four walls.
Speaker 3: No, right, you know it doesn't. My dad used to
Speaker 3: call it your like inner coconut. Don't let people into
Speaker 3: the coconut. Like what you know who your people that
Speaker 3: you are close, close, people you're very close, friends, your family,
Speaker 3: people that are your friends who are become your family.
Speaker 3: And I totally agree with that. And I just feel that,
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny I just said. I actually said
Speaker 3: it was a metamorphosis. And I feel like I'm a butterfly.
Speaker 1: Love that I'm a butterfly. You're a butterfly. Okay, So
Speaker 1: speaking of butterfly and fluttering into DMS, do you believe
Speaker 1: in the DM in a route fluttering into DMS? Do
Speaker 1: you believe in that route? Listen, I have blindly DMed
Speaker 1: when I was single, and I've had some good connections,
Speaker 1: you know, some some good you know, friend connections from
Speaker 1: from them from there too. They obviously weren't love connections.
Speaker 1: But I know my husband he love connected me, you know,
Speaker 1: with with dming me. But I think some women might
Speaker 1: be like, no, I want to be approached. But in
Speaker 1: this day and age and you have status and being
Speaker 1: able to go onto Instagram, you know, is there. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say a celebrity, but is there someone
Speaker 1: that you want to reach out to in DMS? And
Speaker 1: would you do it? And if not, can I do
Speaker 1: it for you? Wing woman?
Speaker 2: I was like, give me your phone.
Speaker 1: I was like all this because because this is this
Speaker 1: is what So my girl Jesse Decker when I was single,
Speaker 1: She's like, who do you want me to DM? And
Speaker 1: I was like, Jesse, like nobody. She's like no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: let me think about this. Okay, this is this guy
Speaker 1: and she she was just straight up DM dudes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like, I'm like, you are so like she was
Speaker 1: like the best wing woman. I just really think we
Speaker 1: need to find the person. You don't have to say
Speaker 1: his name, but I am going to challenge you to
Speaker 1: DM someone and take that bold step because I think
Speaker 1: it's a good thing.
Speaker 2: Today, I have to think about, like who that was
Speaker 2: like right now, I'm like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking like Kevin Costner.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking about.
Speaker 3: He he looks good in a cowboy hat.
Speaker 2: I like good in a cowboy We have so much
Speaker 2: in common.
Speaker 1: You doser. Oh wait, he's on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you are hilarious. You are so funny.
Speaker 2: Here wait, can Kelly.
Speaker 1: D m him right now from your phone. I want
Speaker 1: you to do it right now, and I want we
Speaker 1: want we need to see proof of this, okay, and
Speaker 1: we'll put it on socials.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's going to be like, hello, okay.
Speaker 1: Just be like, okay, be like your ears must be ringing,
Speaker 1: and like, I like it's something like cute, like I think,
Speaker 1: are your ears ringing? Winky faced? Talking about my love
Speaker 1: for horses and your name popped up? Let me know
Speaker 1: if you're ever in New York?
Speaker 2: Talking love? Gosh, this is so good.
Speaker 1: Because you gotta like put thrown an interest. Okay, so
Speaker 1: everyone listening, if you want to reach out to someone
Speaker 1: thrown an interest that you know that they're like you
Speaker 1: guys both like love and share. Say you know, thinking
Speaker 1: of something you know or like you know, your your
Speaker 1: ears ringing? Whatever?
Speaker 3: Okay, your ears must be ringing talking my love for
Speaker 3: horses and your name came up?
Speaker 2: When are you in New York? Also?
Speaker 1: Put Jana Kramer in your next movie.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm getting kidding.
Speaker 2: My great friends a great actress. You'll love her. I
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I need you to pressend.
Speaker 3: You know what's so funny though, is that because I
Speaker 3: always say aloha? Like we don't you don't. I don't text,
Speaker 3: but like every time, like I would be like aloha.
Speaker 3: That's my way of saying hello. And when I was
Speaker 3: on Riah this summer, you know, I was like saying
Speaker 3: aloha and everyone's like, they were like.
Speaker 2: Do you live in Hawaii? I'm like, no, why would I.
Speaker 1: We're going to drop the aloha. I love you. We're
Speaker 1: dropping aloha. Please do not aloha? Kevin Costner, Kevin, did
Speaker 1: you send that?
Speaker 2: Not say a loha? By the way, thank you?
Speaker 1: Did you send it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Let me see. I don't believe you.
Speaker 2: I haven't anything. I sent it. So good.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's something we get to recap on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see what he says. Let's see does it
Speaker 3: get read. It's probably like his publicist.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: But like at the end of the day, well great
Speaker 1: that this publicism be like wow, you know then Kevin,
Speaker 1: here you go. But I think it's something. Keep thinking
Speaker 1: of other people DM DM away because you know what's
Speaker 1: the worst can happen They don't read it, or they
Speaker 1: don't respond, or they do and guess what, You've got
Speaker 1: a fun little you know, you know, drink date come
Speaker 1: in your way.
Speaker 3: Or you know whoever all to the listeners too, whoever
Speaker 3: is listening, if you if you have an idea of
Speaker 3: someone that you think would be really good for me,
Speaker 3: because before I was like no athletes, no actors, like
Speaker 3: I had all these rules, and now I'm just like
Speaker 3: as the butterfly, I'm like, no, no, no, I am
Speaker 3: open to meet all these different kinds of people. So
Speaker 3: if you guys think of anyone too that you think
Speaker 3: would be good for me, please let me know and
Speaker 3: I will let my fingers do the walking.
Speaker 1: And her wings do the floppen. Okay, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Are we wanting to be in a relationship or we
Speaker 1: wanted to just continue this single?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, in a serious relationship and ready to go
Speaker 3: like I have.
Speaker 1: That's the intention for twenty twenty five. I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: Be in like not like, not.
Speaker 3: Like oh, let's date, like in a very very serious
Speaker 3: relationship that's moving forward towards getting being being married.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And you know what, and this is the thing for
Speaker 1: everyone listening to project what you want. Don't say you're
Speaker 1: never going to find or this, that and the other.
Speaker 1: Project it say what you want and go out and
Speaker 1: find it. You know.
Speaker 3: What was interesting too, is just being in LA with everybody.
Speaker 3: Like I never thought of LA as a place that
Speaker 3: I would live. I always thought of an La as
Speaker 3: a place that I went to work and then came back.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm at lunch with my friends the
Speaker 3: other day and I'm like, you know what, I love LA.
Speaker 2: Like it's a it's very me. It's like it's very
Speaker 2: high and very low.
Speaker 3: Like people are just having a really good time and
Speaker 3: they're walking around in T shirts and then they go
Speaker 3: to their you know, they do their work, and it's
Speaker 3: just it's I feel very, very good and healthy in LA,
Speaker 3: whereas it's you know, I work in Miami and Florid
Speaker 3: in Palm Beach, and I've been going there all my life.
Speaker 2: I just when I'm there, I just don't feel good.
Speaker 1: When I'm yeah, well, I mean listen, listen to yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, and like if that's the places it's not
Speaker 1: my friend too, she's divorced. She's like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: there anymore because it's not filling my soul, like my
Speaker 1: soul cup, you know, I'm gonna She actually loves Miami,
Speaker 1: but again, we're we live here in Nashville, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of it's fun.
Speaker 2: I love working in Miami.
Speaker 3: I just have never I'm just it's just never been
Speaker 3: a place where I'm just like this is Maybe it's
Speaker 3: because there's no horses and there's you know, I really,
Speaker 3: I really do. I love I love the beach and
Speaker 3: I love horses. I love that I love those are
Speaker 3: the two lives.
Speaker 1: I really yes, we love that so much. And you know, Kelly,
Speaker 1: we are going to be you know, just on this
Speaker 1: journey with you. We're excited for twenty twenty five. You've
Speaker 1: put out the intentions and you know, stay tuned for
Speaker 1: a Yellowstone Part two.
Speaker 2: I'm just having so much fun.
Speaker 3: Was telling my kids over the weekend, like it's just
Speaker 3: so nice to be in an environment or like I
Speaker 3: feel safe, Like I feel safe to communicate, I feel
Speaker 3: safe to tell you like how I'm why I'm so
Speaker 3: deeply like I'm scarred. I have total PTSD from my
Speaker 3: experience is like on Housewives, complete and utter, very very
Speaker 3: serious PTSD one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Well, you're doing all the work, and.
Speaker 2: I just feel so good now.
Speaker 3: Just being able to communicate and to be able to
Speaker 3: to just be myself and you know, I'm super flawed,
Speaker 3: and you know what, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't have to be like a.
Speaker 1: Men's sister, you know, and someone's gonna love all the parts.
Speaker 1: Like I have so many flaws, and I've seen such
Speaker 1: a weird past and not weird past, but a hard past,
Speaker 1: and like he loves every piece of it, you know.
Speaker 3: So, by the way, I'm a ass singer. You were amazing.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, I know her.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm so sweet, thank you, all right, I love you. Kelly. Well,
Speaker 1: Kelly is the best, and it was so great catching
Speaker 1: up with her, and it's really truly amazing to see
Speaker 1: how far she's come since that first episode we taped
Speaker 1: a few months ago, just coming off the heels of
Speaker 1: that broken engagement, and just you know, I just I
Speaker 1: feel like she's just happier and stronger, and it's just
Speaker 1: really been great to watch her along this journey. Listen to.
Speaker 1: This podcast is all about you, guys, the listeners, who
Speaker 1: have also had difficult times with finding love, and we
Speaker 1: want to hear from you and give you advice. So
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