1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: It's another addition to the Dave Pash Podcast. I'm your 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: host Dave Pash, ESPN announcer and Arizona Cardinals play by 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: play voice. Today, our guest is Colt McCoy, Cardinals quarterback 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: who started the last three games, providing wins over the 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and Seahawks. Great dialogue with Cold talking 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: a number of subjects, including what it was like to 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: be back out on the field, how that continues to 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: drive him and rejuvenate his love of the game, getting 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: to play three games all of a sudden, you just 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: feel like, man, I really enjoyed that. You know, it's 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: been a while. His relationship with Kyler Murray and his 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: role as mentor to Kyler and to others in the 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: locker room, what it's like being the elder statesman, and 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: what a veteran of our military told him that gave 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: him and all of us listening at the time chills. 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Colt talks about his family, being a father of four. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Mac Brown is head coach at the University of Texas, 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: and whether coaching is something that Colt would like to 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: do down the road. 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Colt, First of all, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals wouldn't be nine and two without you, And 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: I know that you're not gonna sit here and take 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: credit on that. I'm not asking you too. I text 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: a Cliff after the game and said, hey man, I'm 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: happy for you, and he said, I'm happy for Colt. 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: What's the last three weeks Ben like for you? Two wins, 34 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: one loss, you get injured in the loss, But to 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: come out of this two and one with roadwins at 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco and at Seattle and Division games, I assume 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: over all year. Please, but what what's this been like 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: the last three exist journey for you? Yeah, it's been 39 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: It's been fun. It's been several years since I was 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: able to play three games in a row in the league. UM. 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: So you know, you always say like while I'm I'm prepared, 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: I'm I stay on my routine. I do the same 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: thing every week, you know, And for the most part, 44 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: that's right. You know, you just now you're getting reps 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: in practice, now you're getting ready to playing games. Um. 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: It was a little uncertain at times because you didn't 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: know if Kylie was going to come back if he wasn't. 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: So I just tried to stay focused on my job 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: and executing what we've been able to do all season. 50 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: And I looked at it as, look, this is this 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: is why Arizona brought me here. This is my role, 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: this is my responsibility to be able to come in 53 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: here and play when called upon, and right now that 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: now's the time. So I did my best to approach 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: it that way and play with confidence. We got a 56 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: big win on the road in San Francisco, U we 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: sort of laid an egg against Carolina. I certainly didn't 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: play my best a lot of reasons, you know, I 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: just as a whole, we didn't play well, you know. 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: So going into the Seattle game, I did think Kyler 61 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: was going to play. I didn't know for sure, but 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: now that that's over, I'm grateful that, you know, Kyler 63 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: gets two more weeks to get healthy, that we pulled 64 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: off a win in Seattle, that I was able to 65 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: go play and perform and help our team, you know, 66 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: rebound from the loss against Carolina and put ourselves in 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: position to be where we want to be as we 68 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: move forward to the second half of the season, and 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: letting us enjoy Thanksgiving in the bye week and a 70 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: lot of positive things there. But good teams, you know, 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: don't let one turn into two, and they just they 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: rebound from those and they respond. And this is a 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: good football team and I'm grateful to be a part 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: of it. So we had Kurt Warner on this podcast, 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: and I've worked four years with Brian Greacy, in four 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: years with Greg McElroy in college football, and those three 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: guys have all been in a similar situation to you, 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: where they've been a backup at some point and had 79 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: to be ready to step in and be a starter. 80 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: And we always hear the cliche, well, you have to 81 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: prepare as if you're going to start. What's that like 82 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: when you're going through the week and you're not the 83 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: last three weeks, but on a normal week where you're 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: not expected to play, how do you mentally stay sharp? 85 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: And what does that look like? Take us kind of 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: inside the mind and kind of the daily activity of 87 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: the guy that's the number two. Yeah, well it's it's 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: very mental. I think throughout my years, I've put a 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: routine together of you know, how much tape I watch, 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: how much I break down the opponent, how much I 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: study our game plan and how we want to operate 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: this week. Because our Cliff does a great job with 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: scheming and our plan and going against our opponent. There's 94 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: new stuff every week. And then the physical part of 95 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: staying in shape right, like working out, getting your wind right, 96 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: knowing that you're not going to get any reps. And 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: then a lot of what I do is and I 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: listened to Kyler, I listened to Cliff, I listen to Cam, 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: our quarterback coach. I listened to you know, we go 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: to practice and then we come in the meeting room 101 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: and we talk about plays and like, well, if if 102 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: this happens here, we want to throw the ball here. 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: And I'm just writing it down and I'm watching how 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Kyler runs these plays and how he operates and talking 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: to him about it, and sometimes he's asking me what 106 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: I see, how I see it, what timings of motions, 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: landmarks of routes like little things like that, And I'm 108 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: communicating with the receivers and the tight ends and the 109 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: old line. And it's a lot, right, It's it's a 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: lot to force yourself to do every week knowing that, sure, 111 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, there's a chance I'm probably not gonna play 112 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: this right, right, but this may be for nothing, but 113 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: I have to do it and I have to set 114 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: the example for Kyler too, right exactly. But the reason 115 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: that I do it is because one, I love the 116 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: game and I love the process. But two is because 117 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: when that does happen, you want your teammates and guys. 118 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: You've never been out there with them, so they don't 119 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: really know, but they've seen you every day. They see 120 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: your process, they see how you are at practice, they're 121 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: how engaged you are, like you know when they come 122 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: and ask you a question. You are an extension of collegs. 123 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell exactly what Kyler wants tryer. This is 124 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: this is how he sees it, right, and so I 125 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: just that's what I try to do right, and by 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: no means am I perfect at that. I'm constantly learning 127 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: and evolving. But that's sort of my approach every week, 128 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: so that when you know, if it's the fourth quarter 129 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: and something happens and you got to go in and 130 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: play like nobody, nobody blinks. They may be uncertain if 131 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: you're going to be able to get it done or not. 132 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: But I'm going to come in and just do it 133 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: on coach to do, and I'll be prepared. I've heard 134 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: stories going back to camp, actually going back to when 135 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: you were signed, about your relationship with Kyler in terms 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: of him looking up to you growing up. I mean 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: if you were growing up in Texas when you were 138 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: in high school, and then when you were in Austin, 139 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: every young kid would know who Colt McCoy was. And 140 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: I remember Michael Bidwell even saying of all the moves 141 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: we made, that's the best move bringing in McCoy, not 142 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: just because that in a pinch you could go in 143 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: and win games, but because you can mentor Kyler. How 144 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: has that relationship grown you and Kyler and how have 145 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you seen him change since you got here? Yeah, it's 146 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: been really good. I didn't really know I had met 147 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Kyler before, I hadn't spent a lot of time with 148 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: him before I got here. He is also as a 149 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Texas high school football player. Everybody knows Kyler. I mean, 150 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he lost a game in high school 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: in Texas, right, So everybody you know, two sport athlete, 152 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy, I mean, everybody knows Kyler Murray. I'm fortunate 153 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: throughout my career to have been a starter in the 154 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: league for several years, to have been a backup, to 155 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: have guys who backed me up that really impressed me 156 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: and helped me, and some who didn't. And so I know, 157 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: like how important a quarterback room is. I've been in 158 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: some good ones and some you know, someone's that needed 159 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: some help. But the first things. First, like, I wouldn't 160 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: have signed and kept playing if I didn't think I 161 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: could play. I still want to play. I still think 162 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: I can play. I love the role in the situation 163 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: that I'm in. But secondly, it's important to have a good, 164 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: trusting quarterback room. Cam does a great job with us. 165 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: I came in and started learning. The first thing I 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: did was just watch our games, watch Kyler how he played, 167 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: like he does some things that's like, dude, I can't 168 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: do that. Like nobody I told somebody like Cliff called 169 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: a quarterback draw. You know, they hadn't played a bunch 170 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: of man, but in the second half they were switching 171 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: things up. In that last drive to go score, they 172 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: showed me different looks almost every play, right, and so 173 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: he called in a quarterback draw and I was like, huh. 174 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: And so it worked, right, James made a nice block, 175 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I got through the line of scrimmage, and I was like, 176 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: the only difference between me running I got the first down. 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: Kyler probably would have scored right there. So I mean, 178 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: there's things that Kyler can do that I just can't. 179 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: But I know how Cliff sees this offense and how 180 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: he wants it to work, and I rust in that, 181 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: and I think the guys trusting that too, and we 182 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: were able to do that. But going back to Kyler, 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: like our relationship has been great. Kyler is so unique 184 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: in how he sees the game like it's it's very impressive. 185 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: He's very smart and he plays with feel. Throughout my 186 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: years and watching other quarterbacks and talking to guys in 187 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: the offseason, and some of the guys I've played with 188 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: are just very routine in structure, and they know the 189 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: game so well. They're great at situational football. They study it. 190 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: They and Kyler is at the top of the list 191 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: on a lot of those things, Like he sees it right, 192 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: he plays the feel, he knows the coverages and structures, 193 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: and he knows how Cliffs wants to the offense to 194 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: be running. So a lot of the things that have 195 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: happened this year is me like me, I'm learning too. 196 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: Like there's some things he does it's like impressive to me, 197 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: and I want to I want to incorporate some of 198 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: that if I can. And I think there's some things 199 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: that I brought to the table, some of the things 200 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: that I have seen or or I like or if 201 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: he plays here and there that Kyler's implemented right. And 202 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: so it's been real health I know how bad Kyler 203 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: wants to be out there. For him to miss three weeks, 204 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: he hasn't really missed a game in his career, Like, 205 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: I know how bad it's been hurting him. And I 206 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: want him to be back. Everybody wants him to be back. 207 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm thankful that we were able to win a couple 208 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: of road games in our division. You know, we have 209 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: the best record in the league right now. We have 210 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: sort of our goals in front of us, and hopefully 211 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: Kyler comes back healthy and we can just continue to 212 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: play good football. And I think we're in a position 213 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: to do that. This is a question that maybe Kyler 214 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: can answer better. But I am curious from your standpoint 215 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: as a father of four and Kyler a young guy 216 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: coming into the NFL. You know, how have you mentored 217 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: him in that role as somebody who's you know, significantly older. 218 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: I won't say how much older, but it's significantly older. 219 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: And you're in a different place in your life personally 220 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: than he is. Yeah, yeah, totally different. My next step 221 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: is to have him come over and babysit, so my 222 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: wife and I go out to dinner or something that's coming. Yeah, 223 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: we are in two totally different places, but it's very 224 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: health The funny conversations go on, and he never changed 225 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: the diaper in his life. He doesn't know what I'm 226 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, he still goes home and plays 227 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: video games and is still young, right, but his maturity 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: and his wisdom in the game is very high, and 229 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: we have lots of great conversations. You know, He's captain 230 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: on the football team. I think there's ways that we've 231 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: been able to talk through things. How do you see this? 232 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: What do you think I should do here? How should 233 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: I handle this? All those things that again, I just 234 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: think it's been very healthy and productive, and after playing 235 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: in the league for so long, I'm happy about that 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: because I said this earlier, but I understand the importance 237 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: of having a good QB room right and the starter 238 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: knowing that like, hey, this guy's gonna see it, he's 239 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna help me, he's gonna be supportive, he's gonna be 240 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: an extension of kind of like what I see and 241 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: how I talk to communicate to the coaches, to the receivers, 242 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: and that it's just been It's been productive and thankful 243 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: to be in the position that we're in, and we 244 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: just gotta day the course. In the Cleveland game, no 245 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and Cam Turner, So I'm guessing you were 246 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: more vocal than you normally are. Did you almost serve 247 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: as quarterback coach in that game? And is coaching something 248 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: that eventually you want to do, because I could definitely 249 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: see you doing it. I was probably more nervous than 250 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: that game than anybody to be honest, because Spencer did 251 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: a great job, you know, calling the plays. And the 252 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: good thing about that week is Cliff had the plan in. 253 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: He was here all the way through Friday, so all 254 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: the all the teaching, the walkthroughs, how he wanted to operate, 255 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: all that was all in right now. It's just we 256 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: just got to call the plays. And Spencer did a 257 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: great job. But we would come out and I would 258 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: have the call sheet Spencer and how we would walk through, 259 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: like what do you like here? What are you seeing? 260 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: We burned through our red zone plays like in the 261 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: first quarter because we got turnovers down there, like all 262 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're like down to like our last screen. 263 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: But it was it was fun, and yeah, I was 264 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: definitely what if you want to call it coaching Kyler. 265 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: I was suggesting some things to Kyler. You know, there 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: was a couple of times in that game where you 267 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: know who you're playing against, right, you're playing against Clowning, 268 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: You're playing against Miles Garrett, guys who collapse the edge. 269 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: They don't want you to move laterally side to side. 270 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: And early in that game, Kyler had a couple of 271 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: players where he escaped kind of out and it's hard 272 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: to get around those guys. I mean, they're elite. And 273 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: when when lanes were up and you know, we got 274 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: into the second half here or no, we scored on 275 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: a third and nineteen and he moved up in the 276 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: pocket threw a strike to Christian for a touchdown. It's like, dang, 277 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 1: that worked. It's weird for me to come in and say, Kyle, 278 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: you gotta step up. We can't. We're not going laterally right, 279 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: like there's nothing out there. Move and if it's not, 280 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: there's run, you know. And third and nineteen from a 281 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown like that was that was great? Right 282 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: and he you know, so that's not something I wouldn't 283 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: normally say because our communication is like that. But you know, 284 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of magnified a little bit more when your 285 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: quarterback coach is not there, head coach is not there, 286 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: the assistant receivers coaches calling the plays, and you're kind 287 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: of suggesting some things here and there. It's like and 288 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: when you suggest to play, you're just like, I hope 289 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: this is where I'm essentially calling this play. I hope 290 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: it works, you know, and kind of holding your breath. 291 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: But it was great, Like at once that game was over. 292 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: I was more tired than ever because you just mentally 293 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: and like you also had to be ready to play 294 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: right in those moments. So it was fun. You've been 295 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: around good coaches. I love Mac Brown. Got to know 296 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: Mac a little bit when he was at ESPN, and 297 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: now we were there for the Clemson game two years ago. 298 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: I think it was when they almost beat Clemson and 299 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Mac is like the best, and I you know, how 300 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: much of an impact is he had on you? And 301 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: again let me because he didn't answer. Is coaching something 302 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: that you think you want to do when you're done? Maybe? 303 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: You know. My grandfather was a women's basketball coach and 304 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: track coach for forty one years in college. My mom 305 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: actually was his point guard at one time for like 306 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: four years UM at Ablyn Christian. My dad played football 307 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: at Ablen Christian and he was also a coach. He 308 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: was my high school coach. I know coaching is sort 309 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: of in my family, um, and so I definitely am 310 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: not shutting the door to that. I think that could 311 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: be part of my future for sure. I do love 312 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: the game. I love studying it. You know, there's so 313 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: many good coaches here to Cliff Jeff Rogers so so smart, 314 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: situationally situational football. You know, I learned a lot from him, 315 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: ask questions, Cam Turners, seen a lot like the there's 316 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: some there's some coaches here that just really good to 317 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: bounce ideas off of. Talk to like I see it, 318 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: I see it the way they see it. And then 319 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: playing from Coach Brown in college. I was there for 320 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: five years. We won a lot of games and fortunate 321 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: to be on good teams there. Coach Brown sort of 322 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: coached me just like my dad. You know, when my 323 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: dad dropped me off, he was like, he's all yours, 324 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: he's ready, you know, so talk to him like I 325 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: would talk to him. So he never held back on me, 326 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: for sure. But it was great. I learned a lot 327 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: and and grew up a lot and thankful to have 328 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: played with him and the staff that was there was 329 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: pretty consistent the whole time I was there. Coach Greg Davis, 330 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: so I love all those guys, um, and I know 331 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: that coaching. You know, you you have a chance to 332 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: call plays and win games and all that, but you 333 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: also have a chance to be around football and be 334 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: around guys and um just the week to week. In 335 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: the process, I mentioned how much I love that. So 336 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: you could do this for a long time. You could 337 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: keep I mean being in a situation you're in with 338 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you could do this for five more guys 339 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: playing into their forties. Now. Yeah, I think that's why 340 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm not like thinking about coaching that much because I so, 341 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, getting to play three games all of a sudden, 342 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: you just feel like, man, I like, I really enjoyed that. 343 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a while and you played well 344 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: and you won. Yeah, and we won. There's nothing better 345 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: than like losing sucks at any level, but in the NFL, 346 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's just magnified, right, and winning is why 347 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: we do it. It's fun. It's you know, there's a 348 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: like plane rides home from division road games after a 349 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: win or just there's nothing. You can't explain it. There's 350 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: just nothing like it. And so all those things are 351 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: great and uh, but we'll see. I'm not going to 352 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: shut the door to it. I think you know, you 353 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: mentioned I have four kids, Like football does require a 354 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: lot of time, and you know, part of my routine 355 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: is I try to do everything I can hear. I 356 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: get here early so I can go home and read 357 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: books to my kids and bathtime and bedtime. You know, 358 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: that's important to me. So just balancing all that is. 359 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm having the time of my life right now, 360 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: and that's sort of I'm kind of type A. I 361 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: just kind of focus on that and keep my son's 362 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: shades on and not look about what's gonna happen in 363 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years. But it could happen. Why'd you 364 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: pick the Cardinals? How did that come about? I heard 365 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: a story that Sean mcvagh recommended you to Cliff. Somebody 366 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: I guess had told you that story, and you didn't 367 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: even know that that if Sean really wanted me, he 368 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: could have got me. Sean is Sean is awesome. Sean's 369 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: one of my best friends. I was with him in 370 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: Washington for four years. Kevin O'Connell same way. I really 371 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: really love those guys are super bright football, you know. 372 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: I think that that means a lot to me, that, 373 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, Sean would make a call for me or whatever. 374 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: I didn't really know. You know, two years ago, I 375 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: was contemplating retiring. I missed a whole season because I 376 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: had a broken leg and had like three surgeries and 377 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: I just didn't feel right, you know, and then I 378 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: sort of got healthy through COVID and worked really really 379 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: hard to just try to feel right and give myself 380 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: a chance to say if I want to play or 381 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: not play anymore. And ended up going to New York 382 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: for a year and and uh played a couple of 383 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: games there, felt pretty good on my leg, like sort 384 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: of kind of got revived a little bit. And and 385 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, in the offseason, had an opportunity to come here. 386 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, free agency last year it was tough for 387 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: anybody unless you were in an you know, an elite, 388 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: elite guy. And so I just I had several opportunities, 389 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: and I actually wanted to come here. I mean, you 390 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: don't want to ever just show your cards. But my 391 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: wife had a baby on March thirtieth and came had 392 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: called me like probably a week before, said hey, we 393 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: want you to come in on the thirtieth. You know, 394 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm out of town. We've got all these COVID protocols, 395 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: but we really want to host you. We want we 396 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: want to bring you in. I was like, all right, 397 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, let's play it by ear my wife. You 398 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: know she's pregnant. We you know, the dude dates like 399 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: it was the due date was like April fifth or 400 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: something like that. I was like, so, if you know 401 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: something happens, I would keep you posted. But I think 402 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: that'd be great. And there was a couple other teams 403 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: calling me at the time, wanted me to come before 404 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: that because they knew that I was going to come 405 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: out here on the thirtieth. And so all of a sudden, 406 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: the thirtieth rolls around and my wife's like, I think 407 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm having a baby. Like I'm like, okay, well let's go. 408 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: So she has the baby early in the morning, like 409 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: two am of the thirtieth. My fight leaves it like seven, 410 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: so I don't bring it up, and she has the baby. 411 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: We're all excited, everything's here, and she's like, what are 412 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: you doing. You gotta go on a plane. I was 413 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: like no, it's like I can't do that. She was like, no, 414 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: I know you want to go to Arizona. Why don't 415 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: you just why don't just go, like give me some time. 416 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here because you couldn't have visitors. This 417 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: is her fourth kid. So she's like, just let me 418 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: have my space. I'll just I can just rest, I'll 419 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: give the baby to the nurses. You can go and 420 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: then come back like I know, this is, this is 421 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: we all have been praying about this, and you know, 422 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: and so I did. I left, I went, I got 423 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: to the airport, I didn't sleep. I slept on the 424 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: plane and got out here. They hosted me. It was great. 425 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: I ended up signing flying back and just flew back 426 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: and took the same uber back to the hospital and 427 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: stayed there for another day and then went home. And 428 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of you know, So I felt like it 429 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: was the right thing, the right moves kind of meant 430 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: to be. And I'm very fortunate to be here. And 431 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: I have a lot of this season and this team 432 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: and the things that I've learned as a player, the 433 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: things I've learned as a person being around Cliff and 434 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: Cam and our offense. Like I'm just I'm in a 435 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: good place. My occupation obviously is different than years, but 436 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: like this is my twentieth year with the Cardinals. I 437 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: got this job when I was twenty nine. I was 438 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: in such a different stage of life twenty years ago 439 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: than I am now. I got the ESPN in two 440 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: thousand and three. I've been there eighteen years. And when 441 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I got hired, like you know, I was kind of 442 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: like the up and comer, and they'd put me with 443 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: some of the older veterans, and then after time I 444 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: started working with a lot of the younger guys. I 445 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: mentioned Greg McElroy. He was twenty eight when they put 446 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: him with me, about six or seven years ago. And 447 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: so my role has changed over Tom. I love it. 448 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: I love all the people I get to work with, 449 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: and I still get to work with people that are 450 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: more established. And I worked NBA with hughby Brown is 451 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: eighty eight. It's incredible what he's create at his age. 452 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: My question is, how do you brace because you were again, 453 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: great legend in Texas in high school, at University of Texas, 454 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: you go to the National Championship Game, and then in 455 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: the NFL high draft pick third round starter. Now your 456 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: role has changed. How do you embrace kind of being 457 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: a leader in the different stage of your career. I 458 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: know you talked about that a little bit. I'm just 459 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: wanting you can go a little bit deeper on that one. Yeah. 460 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: I think when you're in college and you're starting, things 461 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: are going great, and you come to the NFL and 462 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: you start for a couple of different teams and you 463 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of it's easy to be a leader. 464 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: It's easy to be who you are and you're kind 465 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: of the voice and guys listen to you. I think 466 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: I've had a big transition of understanding the term leadership 467 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: just by being the guy who's not on the field, right, 468 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: the guy who's kind of behind the scenes. And I 469 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: saw a seed as like the glue. Right, you're talking 470 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: to receiver, as you're talking to lineman, coaches Kyler, and 471 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: you're you do it all from the standpoint of you 472 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: understand what it's supposed to look like, how Cliff wants it, 473 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: how Kyler sees it, and so I enjoy that, like 474 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: I enjoy doing all that. It helps me learn the game. 475 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: It helps me understand the game, It helps me relationships 476 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: with guys on the team. But it's it's different than 477 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: when you're on the field and you are calling the 478 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: plays and you're making the plays, and you're leading the 479 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: team against two different roles but in the same leadership category. 480 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: And I went back to UT for a practice probably 481 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: five years after I had graduated, and our practice fields 482 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: that UT are named after this guy, Frank Denias, who's 483 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: recently passed away, mentor of mine, very successful in life, 484 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: but at seventeen, he's storing the beaches of Normandy right 485 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: kind of when it enlisted, he was too young, but 486 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: served our country all. He's just a very very he 487 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: was probably late eighties maybe ninety. We were sitting there 488 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: talking and he asked me, he said, how do you 489 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: how would you define leadership? And I'm sitting there thinking, like, 490 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything when I was seventeen, right like, 491 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: and so I gave a few cliche answers, you know, encouraging, motivating, 492 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing the right thing all the time. And 493 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's that's good, you know. He said, 494 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: A leader is a man who can manage his own fears. 495 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: And that's always stuck with me. So whether I'm on 496 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: the field playing, whether I'm off the field talking and 497 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: having conversations and working out and getting myself a fady 498 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: to play, like, I understand that having myself available and 499 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: ready for any situation that comes up, like managing myself, 500 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I think allows me to operate in the role that 501 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: I have, whether I'm on the field or off the field. Well, listen, 502 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: it's it's clear the impact you've had on the organization. 503 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: On the field off the field, mentoring others, leading, and 504 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. I know Cardinal fans are as well. Man. 505 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 1: It's been great to see what you've done the last 506 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: few weeks on the field and best of luck the 507 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: rest of the way. Hey, thanks glad. This was fun 508 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: and enjoyed it. From the delivery room to the conference 509 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: room at the Dignity Health Arizona Cardinals Training Center, Colt 510 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: McCoy signs a contract and he told us he went 511 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: to bed that night at eight o'clock Arizona time because 512 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: he was exhausted, had quite the twenty four hours being 513 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: there for his wife giving birth to their fourth child, 514 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: and then flying here to sign a contract to play 515 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals. Great stuff. You can hear the humility, 516 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: the professionalism, the maturity of Colt McCoy and again why 517 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: he said such a big impact on this franchise as 518 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: a leader but also as a player, winning two games 519 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: and being a big reason the Cardinals were able to 520 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: get through that time without Kyler Murray, without DeAndre Hopkins 521 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: and have the best record in the National Football League 522 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: at nine and two. We are presented by bet MGM, 523 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: the official sports betting partner of the Arizona Cardinals and 524 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: by Hila River Hotels and Casinos. You can follow along 525 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: with us on Twitter at pash pod. Thanks again to 526 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals quarterback Colt McCoy. I'm Dave Pash. We'll talk to 527 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: you next week on the Dave Pash Podcast