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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley,

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Speaker 1: joined for the last time in season INTOY twenty five five.

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Speaker 1: Mike Mayor the first a way I frame that it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you're stepping away. I will be the one

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Speaker 1: who is not doing the show anymore for the next

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Speaker 1: couple of months. This is my annual responsibilities on the

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Speaker 1: football side just get to be too much and the

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Speaker 1: company decides to have me step away from the cycle.

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Speaker 1: It is not something I fight, but not necessarily my

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Speaker 1: choice either. Don't come strictly yell at me, but it

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Speaker 1: does kind of make sense all around with everything we

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Speaker 1: have going on in August for.

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Speaker 2: A draft seasons.

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Speaker 1: So just right off the bat admitting it that Mayor

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Speaker 1: isn't pushing me away. This isn't because we hate each other.

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Speaker 1: This is because I have to go to a lot

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Speaker 1: of football work over the next couple of months. But

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Speaker 1: you are in good hands. The cycle is continuing. Mayor

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Speaker 1: will be here and hosting, which I know everybody loves.

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Speaker 1: Kelly Kirby will be joining him for most of those shows.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if she's not available here and there,

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Speaker 1: maybe some other guests, but it'll largely be Mayor and

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Speaker 1: Kelly going forward, So Mayor, go ahead and celebrate that

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Speaker 1: I'm stepping away.

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Speaker 2: I know you're really excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I had the ability to like add

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Speaker 3: like drops in real time and like just like hit

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Speaker 3: a button and bring in that like boo this man meme,

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Speaker 3: like boo this man boooo.

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Speaker 2: They're saying boom boo.

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Speaker 3: Oh Simpsons reference from you.

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Speaker 1: I know I need that was just for you for

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Speaker 1: our last show of the year, A treat, But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know it'll be the same show that you guys

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Speaker 1: have heard before when I'm out with Mayor and Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and you know, nothing will change of with just the

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Speaker 1: the voices on here. So Mayor will be hosting and

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Speaker 1: you guys will all have fun doing that going forward. Today, Mayor,

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Speaker 1: we are taping an extra day you know later, because

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Speaker 1: we wanted to leave room to react to the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: We normally taped on Thursdays, the deadlines at four pm

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday. We were like, let's not just you know,

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Speaker 1: talk about stuff that hasn't happened yet and have it

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Speaker 1: be out of date by the time this episode post

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Speaker 1: that's trade deadline.

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Speaker 3: Has My boy would happened.

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Speaker 1: Very much, so, so we're gonna be doing some trade

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Speaker 1: deadline reaction. There's not really like a framing for this.

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Speaker 1: This isn't We're not talking about it in terms of

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Speaker 2: We also run through our kind of.

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Speaker 1: A typical news and notes, and then because the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline has passed in most fantasy leagues also, we're not

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Speaker 2: This is all in part.

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Speaker 1: Two, by the way, we're gonna be splitting this episode

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Speaker 2: Does that sound good, mayor.

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Speaker 3: That sounds great? Let's do it all right.

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Speaker 2: Let's start off with the news and notes here.

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Speaker 1: Lots of injuries, particularly to my contending Dynasty team, which

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Speaker 1: I know nobody cares about, but Ronald Acunya obviously had

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Speaker 1: So as of right now, none of these appear to

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Speaker 3: And so that's when it becomes really interesting when you

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Speaker 1: Obviously this isn't something that should impact him next year,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so definitely concerning all those names this time of

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Speaker 1: reaction here. Basically just wrote down a bunch of the

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Speaker 1: We don't have to spend a ton of time on

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Speaker 1: And there was basically no order to how I put

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Speaker 1: Of course, the first ones I wrote down were the

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Speaker 1: Orioles ones. They were sellers as they should have been.

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Speaker 1: I fully supported it. The biggest trade they made was

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Speaker 1: Well, we will be getting back to them with probably

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Speaker 1: But yeah, for these Orioles ones, they got a lot

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Speaker 1: Padres like fourth prospect in their system. They're sixth, they're

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Speaker 1: according to MLB pipeline. So a lot of names coming

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Speaker 1: back for this. Clearly, those names aren't going to really

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Speaker 1: impact fantasy for seeable future. They're not like mega dynasty

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Speaker 2: By you.

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Speaker 3: Not eligible now, but he's expected to start at their place,

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Speaker 3: He'll be eligible at third.

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Speaker 1: I think definitely what's his roster percentage right now? Actually

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Speaker 1: Do you want to He's about rostered as much as

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Speaker 1: but also the ballpark is a difficult factor at this point,

437
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Speaker 1: So are you interested in picking him up?

438
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,040
Speaker 3: I feel like I would have been more interested in

439
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 3: him like a year ago talking about the Rays and

440
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:48,959
Speaker 3: their success with pitchers. I feel like some of that

441
00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,200
Speaker 3: success is kind of fluctuated. And then also, yeah, the

442
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,639
Speaker 3: ballpark situation is not great for you know, Yankee. We

443
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,560
Speaker 3: already we all talk about Yankee Stadium. It's the same

444
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 3: dimensions as Yankee Stadium and in Florida where the ball

445
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 3: is going to fly even further. So I don't think

446
00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,080
Speaker 3: it's gonna get any better as that, you know. You know,

447
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 3: now that we're into August, it's not any cooler down

448
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 3: there in Florida.

449
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dustin May, your boy to the Red Sox, your boys?

450
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,879
Speaker 2: What do you think about this one?

451
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 3: I like Dustin May. I hate the trade.

452
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,560
Speaker 2: You hate the trade, but you like Dustin May.

453
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,719
Speaker 3: I like the trade. But it's two months of Dustin May.

454
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,919
Speaker 3: He's not under contract pass this year, which you know,

455
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of jokes on on social media

456
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 3: where people were saying, no, maybe Craig Brezlo at the

457
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,119
Speaker 3: Red Sox. It's just like the rest of us. And

458
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,000
Speaker 3: they just assumed that Dustin May had another year of

459
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Speaker 3: team control. But shocker, he doesn't. And they traded the

460
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 3: prospect they got in the Devers deal for him, which

461
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 3: like makes no sense, and I know, like the Dever's

462
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 3: deal was really just a salary dump and like getting

463
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 3: him out of the clubhouse. But I mean, you got

464
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 3: a good decent prospect for him. He wasn't doing well

465
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,920
Speaker 3: this year, but to flip him for two months of

466
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 3: Dustin May is wild, especially when they were like rumors

467
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 3: at the end of the deadline at the Red Sox

468
00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 3: were in on Joe Ryan and and they were close.

469
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 3: And then there was even like one I don't know

470
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,679
Speaker 3: if he saw this was on social there was like

471
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: one I think it was John Morossi put out like

472
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 3: a tweet saying that the Red Sox are making a

473
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Speaker 3: late push for Joe Ryan, and Fox Sports MLB just

474
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 3: went with the Red Sox are acquiring Joe Ryan, and

475
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 3: then I think Yahoo also copied them and said the

476
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: Red Sox are acquiring Joe Ryan with like the graphic

477
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 3: posts and not true, and so they had to pull

478
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 3: those back. But it was a while thirty seconds, so

479
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,359
Speaker 3: worked thought Joe Ryan's going to the Red Sox, but

480
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: he did not. We got justin May.

481
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Speaker 1: You feel you know, do you feel like May will

482
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Speaker 1: have more of an opportunity, like maybe a longer leash

483
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: in Boston. I feel like I was often worried about him,

484
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,479
Speaker 1: just like not getting enough starts and not getting enough

485
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 1: innings in his starts with Los Angeles. Do you think

486
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Speaker 1: he'll get more of an opportunity in Boston? Do you

487
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 1: think he will earn more of an opportunity in Boston.

488
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 1: He has to pitch well for it.

489
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Speaker 3: To met get more of an opportunity, just because you know,

490
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: at least a short term opportunity. The doughter is pretty

491
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: much Aready said he was moving to the bullpen, and

492
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 3: even you know, they have a ton of injury, but

493
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: with the pictures they have coming back, you know he

494
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 3: was gonna be the odd man out there. That's why

495
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 3: it's even more weird weirder wilder that the Red Sox

496
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 3: gave up like a pretty like one of the top

497
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: five prospect on their system for him for two months.

498
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: But I mean, I do like Dustin May, and I think,

499
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 3: you know, I'm intrigued to see what the Red Sox

500
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 3: can do with him. The Red Sox pitching program has

501
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: had mixed results. You know, last year was really exciting

502
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: because like Tanner Hawk was breaking out and Cutter Crawford

503
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: was looking really good and now some of those, you know,

504
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 3: maybe we're just smoking mirrors. Like Tanner Hawk fell apart.

505
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: Nick Pavetta left the Red Sox and is having his

506
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: best year ever. Brian Bayle looks really good, Lucas Giolito looks,

507
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: you know, resurgent Walker, Bueller not so much. Garrett Corchet

508
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: obviously is really good, but it's probably on his own.

509
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: Not much, not really anything the Red Sox are doing

510
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 3: with him. But maybe, you know, just that Red Sox

511
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 3: pitching program, maybe they can unlock something. Because I do

512
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: like dust to May. He has some very interesting stuff.

513
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 3: I like him as a pitcher, but weird trade, weird value.

514
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 3: He will be a starter, so you can take a

515
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 3: flyer on him.

516
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't even we don't need to look up what

517
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: his roster percentage is. But yeah, you have him in

518
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: our Fan Trax league, right, yep.

519
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 3: I haven't read a couple of leagues. Yeah, I have

520
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 3: the opportunity to keep it for one dollar in one league,

521
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 3: but DVD if I.

522
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: Will au Heno Suarez to the Mariner's fun story. They

523
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: were like holding up the plane for him and he

524
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: kind of got on at the last second. You know,

525
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: he was given everybody hugs and everything obviously has been

526
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: on a real heater at least, you know, earlier in

527
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Speaker 1: the summer.

528
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: I believe it was.

529
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: I might be misremembering the stat now because I didn't

530
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Speaker 1: write it down, but I think I saw a stat

531
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: that this is the most home runs a player has had,

532
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 1: like at the point of being traded in season before,

533
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: or at least in a long time. I can't remember

534
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: this petic stat, but it's something along those lines. So

535
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: obviously having a great year, Mariners have needed hitting for

536
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: as long as we can remember.

537
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: He's been there before. What do you think about this fit?

538
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 3: I think, you know, he's going back to where he

539
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: had some previous success. So a lot of times with

540
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: the Mariners in that ballpark you worry about, you know,

541
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 3: can they perform. It's it's a place where hitters tend

542
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: to have trouble seeing the ball for whatever reason, or

543
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 3: just have you know, worse home performances there. He already

544
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: did it for two seasons, so we've already seen him

545
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,239
Speaker 3: do it there, so there's less of that concern. And

546
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: as long as the power keeps up, they don't really

547
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: have to worry about his batting average because that's not

548
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 3: really what he wanted, wanted him forward to begin with.

549
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 3: It has been better to last couple of seasons. You know,

550
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 3: he's a guy who's hovered around two hundred in his career.

551
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: Over the last you know, a couple of seasons, he's

552
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: been around two fifty, which is fantastic. If you can

553
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: get that those power numbers with an average, it isn't

554
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: going to kill you. So hopefully you see more of

555
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 3: that and not, you know, more of those averages around

556
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: like two ten.

557
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: Rest of the season, you would say he's third base.

558
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 2: What for you in your rankings?

559
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: Let's see, I had my rankings up right here. I'd

560
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: probably have to move him up because he was out

561
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: of the top ten, but he probably needs to be

562
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 3: close to the top ten, like he's over these guys.

563
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: Would you put him over Jordan Westbrook.

564
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, even in Seattle High with yeah.

565
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: And then Matt Chapman, I assume you would put him over.

566
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

567
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: What about Jazz.

568
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: It feels like a good back to back and.

569
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: In front of Jazz Camaro, Austin Riley, I might have

570
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: to drop down he's not having a good year.

571
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could justify dropping Riley. But like

572
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: like Suarez is clearly like I'd rather have camin arow

573
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: than him, so like it feels like that jazz spot

574
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: is a good shelf of you know, above or below,

575
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: but not any further then I.

576
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 3: Have him right around nine, right now nine, Okay.

577
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: A couple of relievers on the move to the Yankees,

578
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: Camillo d'vall and David Bednar.

579
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: Obviously, Devin Williams is still there.

580
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: He did blow a savory you know, the other day,

581
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,239
Speaker 1: but he has been pitching much better than he was

582
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: in April and early May. The Yankees have said he

583
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: is still the closer because he has had some issues

584
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: this season. It's fair to wonder if that will last

585
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: if those issues kind of crop back up.

586
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: Do you do you kind of just want to stay

587
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: away from this bullpen?

588
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you have Devin Williams, you're

589
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: still starting him until they announced that he's no longer

590
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: in that spot. But it feels like there's not really

591
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: much actionable with Deval and Bednar. There might be something

592
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 1: actionable on the other side of those bullpens that they

593
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: are now vacating and kind of leaving those, particularly in

594
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Is that is are you kind of seeing

595
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: things the same way I am in that regard where

596
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: there's not much on the Yankee side, but maybe take

597
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: advantage on the other sides.

598
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so it seems like Devin Williams is

599
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: the guy for now, but at that leash just got

600
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 3: real short. He's already lost the job at periods this year.

601
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: And I was listening to the CBS guys this morning

602
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: and they brought up something I didn't realize. They actually

603
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: mentioned that Devin Williams is not under contract next year,

604
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: which I did not know. I just assumed they had

605
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 3: another year of control there for Devin Williams. But you know,

606
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 3: if he starts performing poorly again, like they have no

607
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: reason to hold on. And you know, it's not like

608
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: they're worried about like hurt Field going into next year,

609
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: like if he kind of implodes again, like they can

610
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: just you know, move to bed Ardbaal. And you know,

611
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: there's a reason they acquired those guys. Obviously they needed

612
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: more bullpen help, but they it's you know, fitting that

613
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: they went out and specifically acquired guys with closing experience,

614
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: and so, yeah, interesting situation over there, But yeah, I

615
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: don't think it's someone I'm targeting. I think you said

616
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: it right. If you have Davin Williams, you just keep

617
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: running out there until the wheels fall off. But then

618
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: on the other side there's more vacated saves on where

619
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: those pitchers are coming from.

620
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say I already and I think we're

621
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 1: going to talk about this guy in part two, so

622
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, keep an eye out for that I already

623
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: in our league that I mentioned earlier than I'm trying

624
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: to contend and picked up Randy Roder you Guez for

625
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: the Giants because he's been awesome this sear He actually

626
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: had a bad outing his last time out, but by

627
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: a Larchie has been pretty awesome this season. Sixty two

628
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: strikeouts in forty five innings, one twenty era zero point

629
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: eighty four whip you know, sixty two strikes comparted just

630
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: nine walks this year. So he's somebody that I was

631
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: already like really kind of interested in, and now that

632
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: Dove All has, you know, kind of vacated this opportunity

633
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: for saves. He's somebody that I would be trying to

634
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: get pretty aggressively, truthfully.

635
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: All right.

636
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: Next up, Meryl Kelly to the Rangers, any thoughts on this.

637
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: One solid pitcher having a solid year. I don't know

638
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: that it does a whole ton to his value. I guess,

639
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 3: you know, getting out of Arizona where they're not having

640
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: a great year, but like the Rangers aren't really sitting

641
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: the world on fire either, But uh, you know, I

642
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: think he's a perfectly cromulent pitcher who will continue to

643
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: be so.

644
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: All right. How about Mike Ustremsky to the Royals.

645
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that I have a ton of interest

646
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: in Mike Scremsky. Whatever I was going to say is there.

647
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: I just wrote down because I saw it. I was like,

648
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, is it even worth talking about? I don't know.

649
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: Does that is that your stance too?

650
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, pretty much. I was already looking ahead to

651
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: the to the bigger one on the horizon. I do

652
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: want to mention before we get to I think we

653
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: should close with the big one. I don't want to

654
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Speaker 3: like take.

655
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for you, but no, no, no, I I

656
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: was actually just about to say the same thing I

657
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: was about say, I'm gonna move down the big one.

658
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: I think this next one is interesting. Jose Cabaliro to

659
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: the Yankees, just because he was a really solid source

660
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: of stolen basis for you in certain leagues if you

661
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: were starting him, and it sounds like he might not

662
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: have an everyday roll with the Yankees, so that could

663
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: just be value plummeting.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

665
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Speaker 1: I mean, would you would you like drop him in

666
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: anticipation of that, or if you had him even think it's.

667
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: Too early to drop him. I think you have to

668
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: see how this week plays out, and if he's you know,

669
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, if he's if he's sitting every other day,

670
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: then you know, there's not what you can do.

671
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Speaker 1: I mean, by the way, he's not very rostered. He's

672
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: sixteen percent of Yahoo, So if you have.

673
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: Him it's the steeper leagues then yeah. Yeah, but he's

674
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: got a lot of stolen bases. That's actually kind of

675
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 3: love expected.

676
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: He does have a lot of stolen bases. Harrison Bader

677
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: to Philly.

678
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: It sounds like he should play almost every day. He

679
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: seems like he's going to take Max Kepler's spot. My

680
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: worry that is that he's gonna play like almost every day,

681
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: and so you know, if the Phillies have seven games

682
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: in a week, maybe he starts five with them, which

683
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: you know, you already like have a pretty low ceiling

684
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: with Harrison Bader, and now if I'm losing a couple

685
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: of starts a week, then you know it makes me

686
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: less interested. But that's an upgrade for him, and he

687
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: should get plenty of playing time therester on CBS. I'm

688
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: sorry to interrupt you, but it's.

689
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: Still under fifty percent. But no, it's it's worth noting.

690
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: Uh Joan Duran to Philly? Is it Duran or Duran?

691
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: I never I'm so bad at pronunciations.

692
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 3: I always said thought it was Duran.

693
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: I was looking at Baseball Reference earlier it to do

694
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: it looks like it's Duran. No way, according to Baseball Reference.

695
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: I haven't done any more research on the fact, so

696
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: as I always say, this is what I get for

697
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: mostly reading baseball instead of listening. But anyways, a good

698
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: closer on the Twins going to Philly probably the second

699
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: best closer over to this will definitely the second best,

700
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: right unless I'm forgetting somebody?

701
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: Is he somebody?

702
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's not much actionable here because he

703
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: is already gonna be rostered everywhere where closers are relevant.

704
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: But do you see this as a step up in Philly,

705
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: just because there'll be more wins opportunities.

706
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, I mean, I I.

707
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean I should have even asked

708
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: the question, like obviously it's a step up.

709
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why I even asked.

710
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't have to see where I'm gonna

711
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: move in my closer rankings, like top five.

712
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, this is a good way. Is he

713
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 2: under contract after this? No he's not.

714
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: No, he is.

715
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: That's why I think that's see.

716
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: I thought that was like part of the deal.

717
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh, he's arbitration eligible. I'm sorry I was.

718
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: I was looking at the contract status which he says

719
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: there's only signed for this year, but it's it's because

720
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: it's still an arbitration. So yeah, yeah, this is a

721
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: somebody that I'll be excited about the rest of this

722
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: year and next year.

723
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, two more years of control.

724
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

725
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Free agent twenty twenty A seeing that too, all right?

726
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: Blue Jays Shane Bieber, ty France and any I mean

727
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Bieber obviously somebody who's just not been healthy recently. Ty

728
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Franz is the guy that you've recommended on the show before.

729
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I love like that.

730
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: France, Kelly always teases me about my love for Ty France.

731
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: Whenever like something ty France happens, I always like send

732
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: Kelly a screenshot of it, just and she's like, will

733
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: you stop. I wonder. I don't think he's gonna play

734
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: every day though, so not probably a lot actionable there,

735
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: at least on the Ty France side. Shane Bieber is

736
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: really interesting, like he's he's on the verge of returning

737
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: from Tommy John surgery and looks pretty decent. And yeah,

738
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: Roster Resource doesn't even have they have him as a

739
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: Writy platoon, so he's probably gonna platoon with like I

740
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: don't even know someone who.

741
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: Wasn't I forget who it was, but I saw somebody

742
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: joked that the Blue Jays made this trade. So they

743
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: can just sell a bunch of like Blue Jay's jerseys

744
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: that say Bieber on the back, because justin Bieber's Canadian

745
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: and will we'll get a lot of sales from that.

746
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: So maybe they'll sell a bunch of France jerseys too,

747
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: French Canadians.

748
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good point.

749
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Actually, both France and Bieber kind of appled that's a

750
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: great point, all right. And then Willie Cash Joe the

751
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: last one we have written down here before the big one,

752
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: which you will get to.

753
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, that you would think it's an upgrade for him,

754
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: but like, is he gonna play every day going to

755
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: Where did he go to the Cubs?

756
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: In my blanking the Cubs, right, did you go to

757
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: the Cubs?

758
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? With the Cubs where it kind of seems like

759
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: he doesn't really have an everyday job. He's more of

760
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 3: a utility guy unless something either like someone gets hurt

761
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 3: or like Matt Shaw, you know, continues to struggle and

762
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 3: kind of loses his job. But he seems like he

763
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: was someone more valuable in deeper leagues and now maybe

764
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: not so.

765
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's do the big one. Mason Miller to

766
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: the Padres. And there was multiple pieces in this deal,

767
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: but the big headliners were Mason Miller going to San

768
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: Diego and one of the top prospects in baseball, Leo

769
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: de Vries debrees.

770
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 2: All right, forg we just had this conversation like a

771
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: week ago.

772
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: Devrees, I believe, debrees, Leo Devrees going to the Athletics,

773
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: which is really remarkable. This is the highest ranked prospect

774
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: traded at the deadline, I believe since Eloy Jimenez in

775
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. This is somebody who was like, has a

776
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: chance of being the number one prospect in baseball going

777
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: in the next season once these kind of official graduations

778
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: from prospect lists happened with guys like Roman Anthony and

779
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Chase Burns and everything. This year, like he is already

780
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: inside the top five at a lot of places, at

781
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: the very least top ten everywhere. I think he's I

782
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: think he might be third on MLB pipeline and like

783
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: again or I think he's behind Connor Griffin. Now, at

784
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: any rate, he will be in the conversation for number

785
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: one prospect in baseball going in the next season. Eighteen

786
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: years and then moved him for a closer, which is

787
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: now Mason Miller has there's been talking about him starting

788
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: in the past. Maybe that's part of the plan for

789
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: the Padres. I don't know if you've seen anything to

790
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: that effect. He's also under contract for a while, so

791
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: like just having a really excellent, elite closer with this

792
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. He was kind of having a down

793
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: year this year, but this kind of you know, great

794
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: stuff level closer for a while. I mean, the Padres

795
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: are very willing go all in right like this, this

796
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: is what the Padres do, but really wild. I did

797
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: not expect to see Devrezes moved like just no, flat out,

798
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: very very shocking.

799
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially because you know, as a Red Sox fan,

800
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: I was following the projects pretty closely because they were

801
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: very aggressive and trying to get Daron Durant from the

802
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: Red Sox and they even offered their other top prospect,

803
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 3: Ethan Sallas in in trying to get Duran and the

804
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: Red Sex just kept saying no. And I was like,

805
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: I would keep saying no unless we're talking to Breeze,

806
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: but I assume he's not on the table. And then

807
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: all of a sudden they traded in for a closer.

808
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: I think I have not seen anything about him potentially starting,

809
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: but I do think the only way you make this trade,

810
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: this long tram outlook trade, is if maybe down the line,

811
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: you see Mason Miller as an a starter for you,

812
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 3: which I mean it has to be. You can't trade

813
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: the one of the top prospects in baseball for a closer,

814
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: like I don't. I just don't get it. It's wild.

815
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: But you know, as they say, flags fly forever and

816
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: and no prospect is a sure thing. He's a very

817
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: young prospect, he's eighteen years old. He's in hy A

818
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: right now. He looks very good, but also like no

819
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 3: prospect is a sure thing, and so you know, it's

820
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: like the mystery box thing, you know. Uh, it's like

821
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: Leo DeVries is awesome, but uh, you know, he could

822
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: be Mason Miller or Mason Miller has already Mason Miller.

823
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: And so where do you have Mason Miller amongst closers

824
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the season.

825
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: Let's see, I have I have him ranked pretty aggressively.

826
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: I think I had him number one, which is not

827
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: true anymore. But uh, he's top five for sure. Number

828
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: one might be uh do Ran now? Which I looked

829
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 3: up and apparently you are saying that correctly, Do Run?

830
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I finally go on, do Ron?

831
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: What about what about debris? From the Dynasty perspective? We

832
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: obviously talked to George Bissel last week about some Dynasty updates.

833
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: Do you, when thinking about prospects that you are, you know,

834
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 1: trying to hold on to in Dynasty sash a guy

835
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: this far away, do you care all that much when

836
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: they move or is it still just like the talent

837
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: is the talent? And you'll evaluate the major league situation

838
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: when he gets there, because, like the AA is like,

839
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: do you have some hitters now? This ballpark is not

840
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: going to be permanent for them, So I don't really

841
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: know what Like the Vegas ballpark is going to look like,

842
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: there's some more uncertainty than there was in San Diego.

843
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: But right now it's a better ballpark than his home

844
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: park would have been with the Padres.

845
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: But again, he's probably two years away. So so does this.

846
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: Move the needle for you in terms of how interested

847
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: you would be in a dynasty format for degrees? Or

848
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: is it like you just don't care what he's this

849
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: far away?

850
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I feel like I don't care as much. Obviously,

851
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: you want him to go to a place that has

852
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 3: the track record of you know, producing and you know,

853
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: like promoting these these prospects. But the A's have you know,

854
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: like you said, they have a bunch of young hitters

855
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 3: coming through now, and so maybe they're doing a better

856
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: job of it. They've done it, you know better in

857
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: the past, and I feel a lot better now that

858
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: they're out of the oak and Cosseum. I WO wouldn't

859
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 3: feel great if he was walking into that as a

860
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 3: twenty year old. But like you said, they're in a

861
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: very good offensive ballpark right now, and potentially a good

862
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: ballpark in Vegas. P'all be you don't know what that

863
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: papark is gonna look like.

864
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to wait and see on that. All right,

865
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead and wrap up round in the bases there.

866
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: That was part one of the cycle this week. Be

867
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Speaker 1: sure to keep an eye out for part two, whether

868
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: you're on YouTube or on audio, where we talk about

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