Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl, a podcast that began with
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars wandering through Castle Survived Beaches, spent
Speaker 1: an entire season debating the social hierarchy of cocktail parties.
Speaker 1: Along the way, Will and I riffed on what I
Speaker 1: thought was an entirely hypothetical observation, Maybe arranged marriage isn't
Speaker 1: the worst idea. Apparently our producers were listening. So now
Speaker 1: we're watching Married at First Sight season twenty, a show
Speaker 1: where complete strangers meet at the altars, say I do,
Speaker 1: and only then begin the awkward process of discovering whether
Speaker 1: they have anything whatsoever in common. We are Wilfordell, who
Speaker 1: loves love and believes marriage should be about the marriage,
Speaker 1: not the wedding, and Wright Strong, who loves love and
Speaker 1: made one observation about arranged marriage and is now being
Speaker 1: forced to defend it for an higher television season. Join
Speaker 1: us as experts, therapists, family members, and complete strangers all
Speaker 1: attempt the oldest social experiment in human history with confessionals.
Speaker 1: This is Pod Meats Twirled, All or Nothing? All right, well,
Speaker 1: Episode three, I feel like this is where the rubber
Speaker 1: beats the road.
Speaker 2: I don't think you none of them have. I was
Speaker 2: going to make a rubber joke forget it. You're right,
Speaker 2: it's fine.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is something that we haven't gotten
Speaker 2: the rubber stage yet or something, but you're.
Speaker 1: Right, it has no I feel like once because this
Speaker 1: episode we get past the actual wedding. Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: you know, I say it in the intro, but this
Speaker 1: is something you've always said, which is what you know.
Speaker 1: A lot of this wedding conversation which led to this
Speaker 1: season was based on In the City, where you felt
Speaker 1: that so many of the people on that show got
Speaker 1: married for the sake of having a wedding and not because.
Speaker 4: They were actually on a wedding a marriage, stay married, right,
Speaker 4: And so I feel like this episode was eye opening
Speaker 4: for me because it made me realize, like, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: we're gonna get like because it has been so much
Speaker 4: about the wedding so far, the actual day, which and
Speaker 4: it still is for most of some of this episode.
Speaker 3: But then we turn up the heat. Then in the road, Jesus.
Speaker 1: My god, I'm so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I love how In the City made me uncomfortable, not
Speaker 2: you uncomfortable, And this makes you uncomfortable and not me uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I wonder why. We'll have to figure
Speaker 3: out why that is.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, Like, yeah, it's like the steaks.
Speaker 1: The lack of steaks made me more comfortable, I think,
Speaker 1: and make you feel like why are we doing?
Speaker 2: But it also maybe just people fighting all the time
Speaker 2: made me very like like yeah, right, it made ancious.
Speaker 3: So we're this I'm just I'm in fully in again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I'm so uncomfortable. I want people to Yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Should be running bets every week.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we are not like a bookie
Speaker 2: uh station, where it's like, all right, six to week,
Speaker 2: we're six to one Nicky and Sean. We are we
Speaker 2: we had three to two against Devin and Caitlin. Like,
Speaker 2: let's start betting on which one of these couples is
Speaker 2: gonna stay together?
Speaker 1: Okay, So we found out two episodes ago that we
Speaker 1: they have an eighteen percent ess rate, So that means
Speaker 1: what if you round that up to twenty percent, that's
Speaker 1: a one in five chance round it.
Speaker 3: That's awful. It's like, yeah, it's so much terrible.
Speaker 1: So how many couples are there?
Speaker 3: Eight three, four, five, six seven seven.
Speaker 1: Seven seven seven. Really, only one or two of this
Speaker 1: season are going to I.
Speaker 2: Bet you one or two are gonna make it and
Speaker 2: stay married past the show. And only one of those
Speaker 2: couples is still going to be married in a year.
Speaker 1: Not a single couple, not a single couple from season nineteen.
Speaker 2: States producer just said, then, they literally had exactly the
Speaker 2: same track record as you and I did oft of
Speaker 2: setting those people up last year. Oh my, we we
Speaker 2: we were. We weren't even involved that we had zero percent.
Speaker 2: They didn't all and they were zero zero percent.
Speaker 3: How do you not? Were these the same matchmakers Mattie
Speaker 3: from last year?
Speaker 2: The same, the same uh, doctor Paz and everybody else.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Paul was because he was on the
Speaker 1: UK version.
Speaker 3: Okay, because maybe they you'd have to fight.
Speaker 2: I mean again, if you have a basketball coach that
Speaker 2: goes oh for seven in games, you fire that coach.
Speaker 2: So if you've got two matchmakers that are together that don't,
Speaker 2: not a single couple stays together, get rid of those
Speaker 2: matchmakers would be what I would say.
Speaker 1: I say, I mean, this is like the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: More of the marrier. I think we need to pass.
Speaker 1: I agree, we need like a yes there should be
Speaker 1: ten matchmakers. They should like, what are we doing? I agree, Like,
Speaker 1: only more expertise would be more people wa tribunals.
Speaker 2: Like we should see the tables around. Were like, no,
Speaker 2: this person should go with this person.
Speaker 3: What are we doing? I agree?
Speaker 5: Yes? All right?
Speaker 1: Episode three picking up with Nicky and Sean at the
Speaker 1: altar and this horrible, horribly painful where either she is
Speaker 1: just not feeling it or I think she literally does
Speaker 1: not realize he is the room until she has to
Speaker 1: really like they say it, meet your groom, and then
Speaker 1: she like literally, I think she it's like invisible, like
Speaker 1: he's just invisible to her because he's so not attractive.
Speaker 2: You could kind of see the soul of her body
Speaker 2: a little bit, and it was like, oh no, yes,
Speaker 2: I didn't think I thought she was joking, but now
Speaker 2: the more that you're saying it, maybe she wasn't, which
Speaker 2: is just terrible.
Speaker 1: No. I think she literally was like, oh, I'm ready now,
Speaker 1: so I just stand here like she thought he couldn't
Speaker 1: possibly be here yet, because this guy is just a
Speaker 1: dude in in a suit. It's not like if he
Speaker 1: dressed more in a tux, like if he had a
Speaker 1: black talks on. I think every indication was that he
Speaker 1: was like the help or like because of the color
Speaker 1: of his outfit and the fact that he just did
Speaker 1: not register for her.
Speaker 2: She might also have thought to herself, and again not incorrectly, Hey,
Speaker 2: I stressed to the matchmakers that I wanted somebody six foot.
Speaker 1: But then she also said, but I'll take it right.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, so she like, what do
Speaker 2: you remember from time? And it's not even like you
Speaker 2: gave me somebody five ten or five nine when I
Speaker 2: asked for six foot fifty six, which is not a
Speaker 2: not a big guy.
Speaker 3: I mean that.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's why she's like, well, can't possibly they
Speaker 2: couldn't have possibly something with this guy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, maybe you're right, and she really didn't know.
Speaker 1: I think, oh no, dude, And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's one of these things like because I
Speaker 1: have I know, you know, I have friends who are shorter,
Speaker 1: and I think that it's one of those things like
Speaker 1: women don't consciously realize how much how important, you know,
Speaker 1: Like they will often say like, oh no, I'm totally
Speaker 1: open to it, but unless they've like already dated a
Speaker 1: short guy or literally said the phrase short came you know,
Speaker 1: like if they're like conscious of it, you can. But
Speaker 1: if you haven't really thought about it and you just
Speaker 1: always dated taller guys, it doesn't occur to you.
Speaker 2: I think it's also in proportion though, meaning like cam
Speaker 2: in Michelle don't look like they're in proportion. He's so
Speaker 2: much taller than her, and you had this. You have
Speaker 2: the same thing with with with Adam, where it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you want somebody six five, that's great, you look funny together,
Speaker 2: like sorry you do. Whereas you're five eight, I'm five
Speaker 2: to nine. But our wives are shorter, but in proportion
Speaker 2: to us, Like we're still the taller guys in the relationship.
Speaker 2: We're not towering anything, but our wives are smaller. So
Speaker 2: it looks okay together. Whereas you get these people. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: but the Cameron and Michelle, it looked uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: It looked odd, whereas Nikki and Sean, frankly, they kind
Speaker 3: of look like they go together. I don't think she
Speaker 3: feels that way.
Speaker 1: But it looked right. I know, all right. He starts.
Speaker 1: She gives her speech first, and I thought she did
Speaker 1: pretty good. She seems to recover and sort of get
Speaker 1: into it. He then gives his and emphasizes his ambition,
Speaker 1: his hard work. He says, he's bought two of everything
Speaker 1: up until this moment, and my question.
Speaker 2: Is what things I would imagine two from my from
Speaker 2: my own perspective, it's action figures because you take you
Speaker 2: keep one in the packaging and you can play with
Speaker 2: the other one.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's talking about. He's like,
Speaker 1: and it's a nice sentiment. He's like, I've bought two
Speaker 1: of everything planning for this moment, two of what, two
Speaker 1: apartments sets of sheets? I don't know. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: then they give a little kiss, and he asks, which
Speaker 1: is nice?
Speaker 3: Can I give you a little kiss?
Speaker 1: It does little kiss, But this is the beginning of
Speaker 1: the progression of his like physical stuff, which is then
Speaker 1: we get a jump the broom moment, which is so cool.
Speaker 1: I love this.
Speaker 3: What is this tradition?
Speaker 1: It's an African American tradition. It goes back to It
Speaker 1: goes back to slave times when people would have to
Speaker 1: get married in secret, probably in secret, so they created
Speaker 1: their own ceremony, which was you jumped the broom as
Speaker 1: a couple to signify that you've gone from one side.
Speaker 1: So it's like a pure African American tradition, and I'd
Speaker 1: heard about it, but I've never seen it, and I
Speaker 1: just love how beautiful, the gorgeous, just like this whole deck.
Speaker 2: So she said it's supposed to resemble crossing the threshold. Okay,
Speaker 2: so like you've gone from what's your own threshold?
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was nice.
Speaker 2: It's nice to see see that the kind of cultural
Speaker 2: differences that can happen in marriage.
Speaker 1: And I love that she recognizes it. As his mom
Speaker 1: brings in, it's like, oh cool.
Speaker 3: His mom, by the way, who looked like superhero? Did
Speaker 3: you see her?
Speaker 1: She looked like her? So cool?
Speaker 3: She looks She seriously looked like a superhero.
Speaker 1: Was awesome. I know she was cool. Then they're walking
Speaker 1: away and he's like, oh, give you a give you
Speaker 1: some handspace, and she's.
Speaker 3: Like, yes, thank you. I was like, oh shit, yeah.
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, little little break.
Speaker 3: I'm already seeing where this is going to go.
Speaker 1: By the way, I know, she brings up that she's
Speaker 1: a sabio sexual again, hoping she's hoping that his mind.
Speaker 3: Is trying to convince herself down.
Speaker 1: They start talking. They are both smart, which I really like.
Speaker 1: I love the way they talked each other. But is
Speaker 1: that the thing? This is where he corrects that he
Speaker 1: is an educational doctor, not a medical doctor. Dude, you say,
Speaker 1: this's like.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, you know, doctor doctor Sean. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean that you don't.
Speaker 2: You don't start with doctor if you have a PhD
Speaker 2: or a doctor and I'm sorry, you do not.
Speaker 1: You don't do it.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you're a professor and you're in you're standing
Speaker 2: in front of your students and you're teaching psychology or
Speaker 2: something like that, then yes you can be doctor whatever,
Speaker 2: but don't.
Speaker 3: You can introduce yourself that way.
Speaker 1: And I like actually that the show didn't clarify that
Speaker 1: until this moment because it puts us in her shoes
Speaker 1: a little bit because it was I was shocked. I
Speaker 1: was like, wait what because when she was either talking
Speaker 1: about epinephrine and adrenaline, I was like, and she says like, oh,
Speaker 1: well you're a doctor, so you know all these terms.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he should. And then he's like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm like, oh, I felt her. Of course
Speaker 1: I was also appointed. Anyway, he is very very smart.
Speaker 1: She is very smart. I like them individually, I am
Speaker 1: not feeling their connection. It's a bummer. But I also
Speaker 1: there's part of me that thinks this is a reality show,
Speaker 1: that thinks that they're gonna do this, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 3: We're specific we put together that no were they're.
Speaker 1: Going to tilt the story, yeah, early in the season,
Speaker 1: so that there's a journey certainly possible. There's part of
Speaker 1: me that thinks that the journey, the story of Nicky
Speaker 1: and Sean is going to be that despite the odds,
Speaker 1: they actually I told you I would love that dude.
Speaker 2: The season one, one of the first couples you meet
Speaker 2: is this tall, incredibly goofy guy who is drenched in sweat,
Speaker 2: and when I mean drenched, I mean comically drenched in sweat.
Speaker 3: Standing at there at the front of the stage.
Speaker 2: Albert Brooks yes in broadcast as she can, and she
Speaker 2: walks in and she's stunning, I mean, like a model.
Speaker 2: They get married, she runs out basically in tears. They're
Speaker 2: still together this day and have kids. It's like that,
Speaker 2: so you never know, you but it was.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that that's the art with these two because
Speaker 1: I really like them, and yes, like honestly, of the
Speaker 1: people on the show, these are the people I would
Speaker 1: probably like to sit and have a conversation. Maybe not
Speaker 1: Sean so much.
Speaker 3: Well thank you.
Speaker 2: I felt that way because by the end with Sean
Speaker 2: he was saying some stuff that was a little cringey.
Speaker 1: I know, but it's all yes, right, And so it's
Speaker 1: all because of it's cringey because it's not landing.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: If if he was like with a woman who was like,
Speaker 1: sixty nine, let's go, it would be like, cool, you
Speaker 1: found your match. But it's but I actually think as
Speaker 1: a person he's pretty great, like raised religious to it
Speaker 1: as confident, he's confident. So like I I think like,
Speaker 1: of all the people on the show, these are the
Speaker 1: two that I would like have dinner with separately and
Speaker 1: be like, I like the person. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to them more. But to god, they're they're making me.
Speaker 2: But I also feel like it's that thing where if
Speaker 2: the exact things he was saying about sixty nine and
Speaker 2: all that stuff and he was six foot two and gorgeous,
Speaker 2: she would have giggled and me like, oh stop, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, as opposed to like ill, So yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be this could be wrong. This could be wrong.
Speaker 1: All right, then do we meet Caitlin and Devon. He's
Speaker 1: immediately hiking, and his first quote about himself is most
Speaker 1: people think of a bag, which it's like, it's quite
Speaker 1: as Devon. I did too, because they do look like
Speaker 1: a huge bag. You're a rugby. I love this the
Speaker 1: anti Adam. This is the anti atom because he's all
Speaker 1: the same things in the sense that his presentation, he
Speaker 1: cares about sports and his looks, and he's got the
Speaker 1: frosted dips and all the things, and yet he's aware
Speaker 1: and he's able to see might think I'm a douchebag,
Speaker 1: but I'm not, and I'm like, good for you, dude.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Well, he sees his he and his future partner paddle boarding, hiking,
Speaker 1: her sitting between his legs on a mountaintop.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: He needs someone who can work remote. Cut to Caitlin.
Speaker 1: She can work from anywhere. He says he wants Sydney Sweetey.
Speaker 1: She wants Nick Bosa sports ball reference. I don't know cool.
Speaker 1: He has no relationship with his dad. They both want kids.
Speaker 1: She's been in toxic relationships. Uh. He doesn't want to
Speaker 1: become his dad doesn't want to yell doesn't want to
Speaker 1: put himself above his partner. He wants to feel full
Speaker 1: of butterflies and rainbows. Lisa call him a gentle giant.
Speaker 1: I like I did too. I immediately like cool, there's
Speaker 1: a there's he lost with the really okay you got married?
Speaker 3: With his glasses on the top of his head? Are
Speaker 3: you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Right? That's why most people think he's a doude.
Speaker 3: People might be right, I hope not, because he seems
Speaker 3: like a good guy. He seems like a good guy.
Speaker 1: There's a self awareness here on both of their parts.
Speaker 1: That and and I'm also I feel like my impression
Speaker 1: has been colored by the fact that, as we'll get
Speaker 1: into they seem really good. Yeah, but they do so
Speaker 1: but so so at this point in the episode, while
Speaker 1: we're recapping, I will say I was a little like,
Speaker 1: is he actually a douchebag? I don't know, but but
Speaker 1: I I do like their self's self awareness.
Speaker 3: You're right, Adam does not have in any way, shape
Speaker 3: or form, does not have no.
Speaker 1: And also there's something about you know, it's just people
Speaker 1: like acknowledging their vibe, like acknowledging who they are, what
Speaker 1: they're actually into, and not put it on errors, right,
Speaker 1: Like Adam is putting on errors when he sits at
Speaker 1: the piano, he plays fourteen minute song. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're trying to be you.
Speaker 3: Think you're so like yeah, yeah, and Devin doesn't.
Speaker 2: Devin's like, I'm not I'm not that cool, and I'm
Speaker 2: he's not that cool.
Speaker 1: He's in fact, he's basically he says, he's a douchebag.
Speaker 1: It's equivalent of being like, I'm a big loser a door,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's his version of that.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: You don't ever see Adam. I can't agine.
Speaker 2: One of the things that people walk away from Adam like,
Speaker 2: you know, what he is is really self deprecating, like
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's seriously.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Caitlyn talks about how her dad is not pumped about
Speaker 1: her marrying somebody she doesn't know because he's more traditional.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. We see Devin with his great grandmother,
Speaker 1: which is super cute. Then we meet Jeff the dad,
Speaker 1: and he is super nervous sitting in the ceremony. He's
Speaker 1: kind of aggressive aggressive, I'm gonna punch.
Speaker 2: You watched that twice and then put on the subtitles,
Speaker 2: making sure he actually said that. Somebody said to him, so,
Speaker 2: are you ready to meet your new steps are your
Speaker 2: new son in law?
Speaker 3: And he turned around's like I'm gonna punch that guy
Speaker 3: right in the face, Like Jesus, yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, but my god, but you know, going from
Speaker 2: nervous to to like violent tendencies like Yike's.
Speaker 1: Truly not a fan of Jeff Not. I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of Frankly, I do not like I don't matter.
Speaker 1: I think that there's more to this.
Speaker 3: I think so too. I feel the same.
Speaker 1: I think everybody is like having to accommodate this baby's
Speaker 1: emotional outburst.
Speaker 2: He is a and he seems like he might also
Speaker 2: be a bit of a bully. Yeah, yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't this is so either he got better, but it's
Speaker 2: only because he couldn't get worse.
Speaker 1: Oh only because yeah, only also because Devin is just
Speaker 1: too cool a guy, and he like, who's willing to
Speaker 1: accommodate this baby? Like this guy sucks one. Devin shows
Speaker 1: up with sunglasses on his head, which I immediately was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, we thought the same thing were bad?
Speaker 2: Is he he's.
Speaker 3: Going to keep Why? Why the point I put mine
Speaker 3: on the top of my head?
Speaker 2: And I just started saying to suit, like I'm going
Speaker 2: to marry you all over again, marry you all over.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Jeff is not happy, which I kind of agree
Speaker 1: with at this point because because of the sunglasses.
Speaker 2: I'm giving the benefit of Dowdy forgot he put him
Speaker 2: on his head. That's the that's what I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: him benef the I know, I know, but giving him
Speaker 2: the better for the doubt that he forgot to put
Speaker 2: him on his head.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: So then there's this funny moment where the officiant says,
Speaker 1: are you ready to meet your bride? And he says, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but dead but dead. She walks down the aisle, makes
Speaker 1: a silly face, and then she says, they found him.
Speaker 1: I could not believe it. I was like, okay, who
Speaker 1: about you?
Speaker 2: But it wasn't even like under his breath the efficient
Speaker 2: you read ready with your brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she's like, let's go. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, these people I might have found him,
Speaker 1: they might have found they might have found them man.
Speaker 1: And then her dad stands up apropos of nothing Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: And then he's like the whole thing is crazy to me,
Speaker 1: gives a little speech seems like maybe if it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem, but then it's not. He's just managing
Speaker 1: to make this wedding about him.
Speaker 3: It's like what Logic did, but without any humor.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's like with like high stakes seriousness, get
Speaker 1: over yourself.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Devin presents himself kind of as a goofball, and her
Speaker 1: response is super encouraging. I love that. She's just like,
Speaker 1: you're responsible for my phone and ray line, super endearing,
Speaker 1: just on it. Like again, not delusional, they are aware
Speaker 1: of who they are. She's like, I lose my shit,
Speaker 1: I lose my phone and my keys. I need somebody
Speaker 1: to take care of this part of my life. And
Speaker 1: he's like, I got your high pockets or whatever. His response,
Speaker 1: he's like cool, It's like that's the way to be.
Speaker 1: Just like walk into a wedding or into a relationship
Speaker 1: and being like I do this really poorly.
Speaker 5: I do this.
Speaker 3: That's what makes a relationship too.
Speaker 5: The man.
Speaker 2: Susan always says she never knows where we're traveling until
Speaker 2: we're actually on the plane, Like I take care of everything,
Speaker 2: and she knows that.
Speaker 3: She's like, that's that's that's not good with that stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I thought their kiss was super good, crowded,
Speaker 1: I know, throughout the episode. Yeah, there's this is a
Speaker 1: so far I'm very curious because I could feel, you know,
Speaker 1: as all these like again, the arc of these reality
Speaker 1: shows is that they set you up and it'll be
Speaker 1: really interesting to see where these two go because so far,
Speaker 1: this is the couple that I put them.
Speaker 3: On that this one really interesting.
Speaker 1: I say, this is the best match couple. This is
Speaker 1: the couple that I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, they're they're
Speaker 1: gonna go.
Speaker 3: I also like that they're the ones I would put
Speaker 3: my money in.
Speaker 1: My second position. I would too, but second position.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like and are more uh
Speaker 3: what's sort of like they're more mature in themselves and
Speaker 3: in what they want in the relationship.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I don't think that that
Speaker 1: means them more success.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just I wondered if Devin and Caitlin are still
Speaker 2: too young, too young emotionally, but possibly yeah. Do you know,
Speaker 2: like sometimes it's just like you stick it out exactly
Speaker 2: sometimes sometimes another recovering alcoholic is what keeps you sober?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you never know yea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just yeah, there's something about their vibe, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like them. It's funny because they're well see, they're
Speaker 1: not the people I would actually want to hang out with,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like this crowd would
Speaker 1: make like when guy wears the sunglasses Rugby whoooo. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm out, this is not my scene, but I appreciate
Speaker 1: it and I respect their their the way that they're
Speaker 1: vibing with each other.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: I think the person I like the most, just one
Speaker 2: single person out of everybody I think so far, might
Speaker 2: be Courtney.
Speaker 3: Courtney is the person.
Speaker 2: That I think, so far I would have the most
Speaker 2: like Okay, she's like my little sister and want to
Speaker 2: hang out with her like that.
Speaker 3: That's what I would say, I see.
Speaker 1: I like her too. Yeah, I like her. I also
Speaker 1: really like Nikki, even though I don't like the way she's. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't blame her, but I don't blame her necessarily.
Speaker 1: I really like her. Like everything out of her mouth.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're cool, Ye're smart.
Speaker 2: I'm holding I'm holding my judgment because I'm afraid and
Speaker 2: I think we saw a little bit of this. I'm
Speaker 2: afraid what Nicky's gonna do is what sometimes people, it's
Speaker 2: not just women or men, people do when they're not
Speaker 2: necessarily attracted to the person where with which is they
Speaker 2: start nitpicking and start picking fights so that the other
Speaker 2: person will leave or and they don't have to do it.
Speaker 2: And then it's like, well, I try talked about I
Speaker 2: just become insufferable.
Speaker 3: Feel like that might happen with them.
Speaker 1: No, I know, I'm afraid she's being a little mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm feeling I feel like it's gonna she I
Speaker 2: think she's got the ick and I think I think,
Speaker 2: no matter what Sean does, it'll never be enough.
Speaker 3: And I think that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, all right. Cut to Cameron and
Speaker 1: Michelle awkward height difference as they try and do their
Speaker 1: dance and this is.
Speaker 2: It looks like a father Sunday, our father daughter dance
Speaker 2: and and it's the daughters in the kindergarten.
Speaker 1: I but I put this on him, like, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: a tall guy, you must have dated, but he hasn't.
Speaker 1: He's only been six more relationships, so he doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to deal with It's like, bro, you're taller than
Speaker 1: like almost anybody, like you've dealt with short women before.
Speaker 1: Put her hands when we belong. Don't make a show
Speaker 1: out of how awkward it.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Her brother gives a speech. He makes this weird bald joke,
Speaker 1: which I didn't cat.
Speaker 2: I think what her Michelle probably doesn't like bald men.
Speaker 2: So what she's saying is she's happy that she got
Speaker 2: down the aisle and you went a.
Speaker 3: Full head of hair.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: We find out that she loves Disneyland.
Speaker 3: Is she now? Does she love Disneyland or is she
Speaker 3: a Disney adult? Because those are two different things. I
Speaker 3: love Disneyland, I don't know, but you are you a
Speaker 3: Disney adult? No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's there's how do you feel Aboutney adults?
Speaker 3: Look, hey, you're talking to a card caring NERD.
Speaker 2: I play D and D, so you know I'm no
Speaker 2: one to judge that that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I think for me, the hard part about Disney adult
Speaker 1: is not like, because I agree like the nerddom. The
Speaker 1: sense of wonder amazing, the idea of like enjoying play
Speaker 1: and enjoying fantasy and enjoying imagination and joining storytelling are
Speaker 1: all of that I to love. So that aspect of
Speaker 1: Disney adult. I'm totally on board with, like let's run
Speaker 1: around and be kids childish or childlike childish, but there's
Speaker 1: something about Disney as a corporation and the money and
Speaker 1: the like the limiting sort of worldview of Disney, like
Speaker 1: that Disney is fundamentally like a hermetically sealed version of imagination.
Speaker 1: The Disney itself like like yeah, like Disney is very
Speaker 1: safe and very like sweet and very like Princess and like,
Speaker 1: I know the exceptions, but in general, Disney as a
Speaker 1: corporation as a sort of brand is conservative in the
Speaker 1: in the in the not in the like political sense,
Speaker 1: but conservative in the like cultural sense, like in the
Speaker 1: like very little baby steps. And also just it's all
Speaker 1: about money. Like there's so much money about Disney that
Speaker 1: drives me crazy. So like if the adult Disney is
Speaker 1: like also into other childish imagination things, and being a
Speaker 1: Disney adult is like one aspect of also going to
Speaker 1: rent fairs, also playing D and D also loving the
Speaker 1: Star Wars, also loving just yeah, I'm totally on board,
Speaker 1: but if it's just Disney, it's a little limiting to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's more of there's more versions of the
Speaker 1: same sort of impulse and the fact that you've attached
Speaker 1: yourself to just Disney. I would be like, your your
Speaker 1: world isn't that open, Like your world is a little limited.
Speaker 1: I feel the same thing.
Speaker 2: It's also I don't understand wanting to go to the
Speaker 2: park four days a week and wait in line and
Speaker 2: do It's like I remember that I met a couple
Speaker 2: where all they did was the band that used to
Speaker 2: play in Tomorrowland.
Speaker 3: They used to go like, well, the band's playing tonight
Speaker 3: with have to go.
Speaker 2: I'm like you're driving, or because you want to see
Speaker 2: the band that plays it that does covers in They're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're the best.
Speaker 3: It's like oh okay, Like hey, do you do your thing?
Speaker 1: I mean it's sort of like you know, going to
Speaker 1: the mall for your hang Yeah. I'm like it's to me,
Speaker 1: it's just consumerist and a little like limiting. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I like unique experiences. I like going into the woods.
Speaker 1: I like getting lost. I like finding that weird little sit.
Speaker 3: There's adults that will wait.
Speaker 2: In line an hour to meet the character that's or
Speaker 2: the person in the Mickey costume. I mean that's where
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, me too, it's hard for me. It's
Speaker 2: just not my thing. I just can't relate to it.
Speaker 2: It's not my nerddom. So I love Disney It's a
Speaker 2: great place to go a couple of times a year.
Speaker 2: I really enjoy that, especially if if I'm with a kid,
Speaker 2: like when we went when we brought Indy and that
Speaker 2: that was like I got to experience it all over again.
Speaker 2: It's like Christmas with a kid. It's like it starts again.
Speaker 2: So that was cool. But I don't want to just
Speaker 2: have Sue and I go to Disneyland.
Speaker 3: Like all right.
Speaker 1: Cut to Nicki and Sean. Her friends ask her how
Speaker 1: she's feeling, and she is changing the subject, which.
Speaker 5: Was a little.
Speaker 1: I know, well this is the thing, but she isn't
Speaker 1: feeling it, like it's obvious.
Speaker 3: You got to say something.
Speaker 2: Don't be like, well is this a pano Like don't
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, you're you're making light of the
Speaker 2: fact that you are not attracted.
Speaker 5: To this man.
Speaker 1: She says she wants to take it slow. His dad
Speaker 1: is telling him to be patient.
Speaker 5: Advice.
Speaker 1: All right, Caitlin and Devon people are clinking their glasses
Speaker 1: and they are kissing non stop. Yeah, which is hysterical.
Speaker 1: And then Devin talks to Jeff baby dad, uh and
Speaker 1: watching this conversation the thing that was the most disturbing
Speaker 1: to me. So it's it's Devin talking to Jeff and
Speaker 1: giving him what Jeff needs, which is what I understand
Speaker 1: when you're the dad. The mom is between them, her
Speaker 1: face is just this, oh, dude, she has been through
Speaker 1: so much. You could see that she has to sit
Speaker 1: there and deal with her freaking husband, Jeff, and his
Speaker 1: emotional requirements and what he needs from the guy who's
Speaker 1: marrying his daughter. And you just see her like sitting
Speaker 1: there going like I have to I mean, what this
Speaker 1: woman has been through being married to Jeff. This is
Speaker 1: where I was like, I don't like this dude, because
Speaker 1: I could see in her face that she has had
Speaker 1: to put up with so much bullshit from this guy
Speaker 1: where he makes it all about whatever his worldview is.
Speaker 1: I really That's why I was like, you know, and
Speaker 1: she's not saying anything, She's not going to do it
Speaker 1: on the TV show. She's just gonna get through it.
Speaker 1: But you know that this woman has made their life
Speaker 1: possible while he has made their life just so much harder,
Speaker 1: all right, And we get to Bell Jolie with her
Speaker 1: friends and she's saying that she thought maybe they were
Speaker 1: gonna kiss, but she made a promise. So this whole
Speaker 1: cheek is still kissing.
Speaker 3: It is still going on here. Let it go, Let
Speaker 3: it go.
Speaker 1: And then Dad gives logic, is mega crap, Like you
Speaker 1: clearly had an erection?
Speaker 3: The hell is that all about?
Speaker 1: Let this go? Like he's he's playing both sides, because
Speaker 1: in the last episode he was like telling bel Jolie like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know you didn't want.
Speaker 2: To you know.
Speaker 1: It's like he's playing. He's just every whoever's in front
Speaker 1: of him. He's just trying to like be the person
Speaker 1: that's most entertaining.
Speaker 2: Let's be on camera.
Speaker 1: I don't know again, just like Jeff, like these dads
Speaker 1: making it about them, like step back.
Speaker 2: Like just I don't feel there's any there's any animis
Speaker 2: in logic though, as opposed to where you know, Jeff,
Speaker 2: when you're say I'm gonna punch you in the face,
Speaker 2: It's like, what what the hell?
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 1: He's aggressive. He's aggressive. It's he's insecure and it comes
Speaker 1: out in the worst ways. Then we get Nick and
Speaker 1: Courtney where she's asking why did he go on so
Speaker 1: many realities share. His friends downplay it. I mean I
Speaker 1: like that she just straight up asked them. I think that,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, like, she's not holding back. She's like,
Speaker 1: this is the right flag. Tell me that it's okay.
Speaker 1: And his friends say like, no, he is doing this
Speaker 1: show for love. He is not doing the show for
Speaker 1: the cameras. You're not a hundred, you're not convinced.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not getting nance at all. This is again,
Speaker 2: you can go on one reality show as a lark.
Speaker 2: I can totally see that. Oh my god, my friends,
Speaker 2: my friends bet me or dared me to go on
Speaker 2: Survive Big Brother whatever.
Speaker 3: Of course you can do that. You go on four
Speaker 3: or five. This is what you want in your life.
Speaker 2: You want to be a famous reality star and you
Speaker 2: want to have, you know, be an influencer, and you
Speaker 2: want to be on Instagram.
Speaker 3: That's how you want to live your life.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't buy it for a second that
Speaker 2: this is the one where all of a sudden he's
Speaker 2: going to do it.
Speaker 1: What if he owned it a little bit, Like what
Speaker 1: if he was more like, yeah, I want to be
Speaker 1: a reality star, but I also I'm looking for love.
Speaker 2: Then I would respect that at least he would say, yeah,
Speaker 2: but sitting there denying it, like, no, no, it just
Speaker 2: I just so happened to be on five reality shows.
Speaker 1: Come on, dude, that's interesting. That's interesting. Yeah, he kind
Speaker 1: of has to downplay it in order to increase the
Speaker 1: fact that he's here for love. But yeah, and.
Speaker 2: If you if you think for one second that if
Speaker 2: this couple stays.
Speaker 3: Together, which who knows what the future holds.
Speaker 2: If you don't think this couple stays together and he
Speaker 2: doesn't at some point, you don't think he's going to
Speaker 2: sit her down and say I think they would do
Speaker 2: a reality show about us, our life after merrit at
Speaker 2: first sight. If you don't think that's a conversation he's
Speaker 2: going to have with her your nuts. Of course he is,
Speaker 2: and he'll try to try to bank on whatever happens.
Speaker 2: Oh that seeks he's either they're either not going to
Speaker 2: stay together and he's going to be on a different
Speaker 2: reality show in a year, or they are going to
Speaker 2: stay together and he's going to try to pitch a
Speaker 2: reality show about the two of them.
Speaker 3: I guarantee you, as I said here, guarantee you is
Speaker 3: what he wants. Nobody does five reality shows by accident. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's such a red flat.
Speaker 1: Keep choosing and he's probably he's probably submitted himself for absolutely,
Speaker 1: accepted for absolutely.
Speaker 3: He's doing it every weekend.
Speaker 1: That's his weekend activity, making videos.
Speaker 2: I bet you reality show agents. He's got an agent
Speaker 2: and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Of course it is no, they don't. They say that
Speaker 1: he doesn't have an agent. They actually say that later.
Speaker 3: Sure I think they did.
Speaker 1: Sure Felippe and Torri cutting the cake, he says, I give,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you know, you give the cake to
Speaker 1: the most important woman in your life. And then he says, mom,
Speaker 1: I love you, and then hands I like and then
Speaker 1: she goes out of her way to hand it to
Speaker 1: his mom.
Speaker 3: This is where my money is. This is my money's
Speaker 3: on the two of them.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: Then Nikki and Shaw garter belt moment. Oh, she's like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing this? This lap dance? Apparently it is?
Speaker 2: Did you do this at your with She Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 2: I didn't do any of this, any of this.
Speaker 1: You didn't use your mouth to pull off a guy
Speaker 1: did not. That's a poor guy. Like just take the hand, yeah, relax, relax,
Speaker 1: Just give her some space.
Speaker 2: Let he's gotta feel it, right, do you think he's
Speaker 2: so oblivious or do you think he's just trying to
Speaker 2: make the best of a bad situation.
Speaker 3: I mean he's got to see that she's not feeling it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he says it. Later he says she's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I but why he's not adjusting his behavior?
Speaker 2: What I mean, like, let's not do the guarter belt thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll just make it a dance. Let's do something,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, reassuring her, Hey, we're going to
Speaker 2: take this super slow. I'm just as nervous as you are.
Speaker 2: And you know I like taller women and you're not
Speaker 2: tall either, so let's we'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. There's like he's really like embraced a sort of
Speaker 1: a vision of himself as like this confident, funloving guy, which,
Speaker 1: on one hand, that's greatesome, but it's not.
Speaker 3: It's not you're not going to bulldoze your way through
Speaker 3: He's not.
Speaker 1: He's not, yeah, exactly, he's not recalibrating. He's just sort
Speaker 1: of like, I'll just keep going with my doctor, best,
Speaker 1: doctor best, and it's like, hey, dude, like the doctor
Speaker 1: thing's not working, yay, And then be the sexual stuff
Speaker 1: is not landing, so let it pull back a little.
Speaker 1: Let that happen.
Speaker 3: John Best, PhD. Is different than doctor Best.
Speaker 1: Marissa and Adam. His friends describe him as chill, and
Speaker 1: I was like, are you getting there? Knew what they
Speaker 1: talk about how he's obsessed with jet skis, which guess
Speaker 1: what she's clocked cut to him talking about jet skis
Speaker 1: to everyone and everyone.
Speaker 3: Who I'm sorry, who is this into jet skiing?
Speaker 1: So I did efoiling just this weekend, which is basically
Speaker 1: like a surfboard with a propeller at the bottom and
Speaker 1: you ride it around. It is so much fun. It's
Speaker 1: it's a crazy expensive sport. It's difficult, it requires so
Speaker 1: much go. And I was talking to I just as
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend who had an e foil
Speaker 1: and we were staying at their lake and I'm on
Speaker 1: this road trip was super fun and it'll go once
Speaker 1: in a lifetime opportunity because it's like fifteen thousand dollars
Speaker 1: to buy one of these things. It's not going to
Speaker 1: I'm never going to be in there things you read,
Speaker 1: so it's a great right. But we were talking because
Speaker 1: there's all these jet skiers where we're doing this epoi
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what's the deal with jet ski Like
Speaker 1: it's not that exciting. He's like, no, it's the dumbest
Speaker 1: thing you It's like a minute in and you're like, cool,
Speaker 1: I did the thing. I've always felt this way. I
Speaker 1: the first time I did jet skis, I was twelve
Speaker 1: years old and I did the oldest stay where you
Speaker 1: stand up. Yes, that was hard on fun. It took
Speaker 1: me all day to learn and hard and fun. Same
Speaker 1: with e foiling, hard and fun. Ride in a jet
Speaker 1: ski like the WaveRunner style. It's the most absolutely what is.
Speaker 2: Your entire life is based around just doing something that
Speaker 2: twelve year olds can do that you can rent with
Speaker 2: their your dad's signature like it. I don't get even
Speaker 2: riding motorcycles or dirtbikes takes a lot more that You're
Speaker 2: just You're just on a jet ski.
Speaker 3: How have you made this? Have you picked this to
Speaker 3: be your life? Jet ski and pickle? It's like, are
Speaker 3: you It's the weirdest thing to.
Speaker 2: Pick to be the thing that you talk to about
Speaker 2: with everyone is jet skiing.
Speaker 3: It's so strange.
Speaker 1: Devin and Caitlin. She's already wearing his jacket while they're
Speaker 1: dancing this just as comforting.
Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna have I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's so great.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 1: Then Jeff the dad gives a speech, Let's make it
Speaker 1: all about you again, yourself. He gets to tell about
Speaker 1: how he wasn't gonna come five days ago. Who gives up, Jeff,
Speaker 1: don't come. Jesus Christ God, I think Jeff's got chefs here.
Speaker 1: It gets to turn it all around, and now he's
Speaker 1: rooting for them. Good for you, all right. Cut to
Speaker 1: Courtney and Nick out with her parents. He has won
Speaker 1: everybody over. She's so happy. Okay, I guess she's gonna
Speaker 1: accept the uh, the reality. Well, I think at this point.
Speaker 2: I think she's she's gonna, hey, I'm I'm here. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna trust the process. Like we talked about, make make
Speaker 2: you know I'm all in. They said this guy's right
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: Who knows. Let's let's see.
Speaker 1: This was interesting the way she's talking to her parents
Speaker 1: in this scene. She says he's won everybody over. So
Speaker 1: it's not he's won meal right, It's not like, oh
Speaker 1: I am totally on board. She's like, I guess everybody
Speaker 1: likes him.
Speaker 5: She likes.
Speaker 2: She said, She's like, that's attractive to me that he
Speaker 2: won everybody over.
Speaker 1: But that's interesting, that's a it's an interesting phrasing that
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think she's rightfully leary of why this guy's motives.
Speaker 1: Totally, and we get a montage of everybody's weddings ending,
Speaker 1: lots of partying, dancing, streamers, things happening Belgium. Lie and
Speaker 1: Mecca in their car. They both revealed their parent situations.
Speaker 1: She's never had her dad in her life, He's never
Speaker 1: had his mom. He explains how he wants to be
Speaker 1: exemplary with kids, which is this is cool because this
Speaker 1: is like one of their big connecting factors we saw
Speaker 1: in their previous episodes that they haven't shared with each other,
Speaker 1: and we get Cameron and Michelle in their car. He
Speaker 1: talks about being used to being alone because yes, he
Speaker 1: has not been in a relationship more than six months,
Speaker 1: she has only been alone for three years after being
Speaker 1: in a three year relationship. That is gonna be yeah,
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is bad, this is this is
Speaker 1: this is bad, this is I mean again.
Speaker 2: Adam has kind of funny red flags where it's like, dude,
Speaker 2: are you seriously like, really with all this kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: this is like a this is like a big one.
Speaker 2: This is a big weird relationship. You one to be
Speaker 2: thirty seven years old.
Speaker 1: I just also just feel no chemistry. I just you know,
Speaker 1: it's right. If we're just going on vibes and chemistry,
Speaker 1: there's nothing here. Now, I don't think Nick and Courtney
Speaker 1: you're on a couch. They're discussing their insecurities. She says,
Speaker 1: everyone liked you, which is the great. She takes her
Speaker 1: makeup off and looks kind of different, attractive but different.
Speaker 1: He makes a comment about tanning bed, how she maybe
Speaker 1: shouldn't be going to the tanning solon.
Speaker 2: Now, I asked you about this so tanning bed, and
Speaker 2: so we went back and actually listened. She doesn't say,
Speaker 2: I get I go in the tanning bed all the time.
Speaker 2: She says, I it's spray tanned. So spray tanning is
Speaker 2: healthier than the tanning bed. The tanning beds bad, Like
Speaker 2: if you're going to go to the anning bed every day,
Speaker 2: that's really bad. Spray tanning is probably still spraying carstonogens
Speaker 2: on your skin, but a lot less so than sitting
Speaker 2: in a tanning bed.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, they have an awkward bed conversation, which
Speaker 1: I realize now is par for the course with this show.
Speaker 1: Like who's going to sleep? Jesus, you sign up for
Speaker 1: a reality show where you're basically going to have to
Speaker 1: sleep with us? Yeah, like maybe have sex. Probably have sex.
Speaker 2: At least this at least these people feel awkward about it.
Speaker 2: Go watch Love is Blind where they can't wait to
Speaker 2: jump in bed with each other every night and trade
Speaker 2: partners and every other thing. Oh yeah, dude, you mean
Speaker 2: Love Love Island? Sorry, yeah, where it's just they just
Speaker 2: that's like, all right, everybody, you've picked Liam, You're going
Speaker 2: to go and be in in his bed tonight.
Speaker 3: And they're like I can't white to Bay with Lam.
Speaker 3: It's like you're oh my god. Yeah. So it's just it's.
Speaker 1: Awesome if you signed up for that.
Speaker 3: That's what they're signing up. Yes, it's a big orgy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's a great way to That's a great.
Speaker 5: One, all right.
Speaker 1: Mecca and Beljiu Lee. He asks what she's afraid of.
Speaker 1: She doesn't have anything, and then he expresses that he's
Speaker 1: scared she will think he's weird. This is Mecca's thing,
Speaker 1: probably because he has a father who has made is
Speaker 1: that what it is? I mean again, honestly, like he's
Speaker 1: so insecure when he shouldn't be. Yes, yes, And then
Speaker 1: she's like, what could possibly make you make me think
Speaker 1: you're weird? And he's like, I brushed my teeth in
Speaker 1: the shower. This guy is so scared of rejection.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, he's also scared of Look again,
Speaker 2: this is the thing we've talked about it being on camera,
Speaker 2: scared of looking stupid, and.
Speaker 1: Because his dad is mean, that's what it's got. But
Speaker 1: he spent his whole speech making him the whole point of.
Speaker 2: A relationship is finding your person to be stupid with
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: That's the damn point. So yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: She says that it's a romantic vibe, but that she
Speaker 1: is standing on business, meaning they're not going to have sex.
Speaker 1: She's really holding to this with the cheek thing that
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, I mean, I get it,
Speaker 1: I guess you know, you got to respect somebody's boundaries.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting that she's on one hand saying like
Speaker 1: I am attracted to him, I am feeling it, but
Speaker 1: then also insisting on these kind of like predetermined things. Okay,
Speaker 1: now we get Adam and Marissa. I love that his
Speaker 1: question so revealing. He wants to know what she thought
Speaker 1: of him, and then loves hearing about what she thought
Speaker 1: of his shoulder.
Speaker 2: And I were just absolutely dumbfounded by this conversation.
Speaker 3: So what's the first thing you thought about me when
Speaker 3: you walked down yet? Would you think like me, Oh
Speaker 3: my god? And He's like, my shoulders really big? They
Speaker 3: look big in this suit. It's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: And this guy loves to tell the camera he's not
Speaker 1: worried about being naked with his wife.
Speaker 3: I've trained him, I've trained for this.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: They just had the worst sex ever this night. That's
Speaker 1: what they did. Like that. They closed those windows, they
Speaker 1: closed the doors, the cameras went away, and he was like,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna have sex just like I played the piano. Long, boring, steady,
Speaker 1: but professional.
Speaker 3: Eventually, I'll train you to be the perfect love for professional.
Speaker 3: Let me do it.
Speaker 1: Let me show you. I am so good with my penis.
Speaker 1: I am a professional penist. I am a.
Speaker 3: Professional pianist and a pianist.
Speaker 1: I'm a pianist, professional, dude, it's just cold blooded, cold
Speaker 1: blooded professional. So and you know it's like, oh, now
Speaker 1: I have to have the cold blood professional orgasm that
Speaker 1: you demanded of so much more firefar bro super Yeah,
Speaker 1: just that.
Speaker 3: Whole I could not believe that I have trained for this.
Speaker 1: She's wishing she had that kill Swift.
Speaker 3: I just choke him.
Speaker 1: Kill the engine? Can I just kill the engine? He's
Speaker 1: been twenty minutes, Dude, are you done yet? And he's
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, I got another one to play another
Speaker 1: song with.
Speaker 3: D let me take somewhere.
Speaker 2: He's got a little safe in his house, and in
Speaker 2: the safe there's a letter saying, okay, all this is
Speaker 2: a joke. I'm going to go on merrit at first
Speaker 2: sight and be the biggest douchebag on the planet.
Speaker 1: Is all act. He planned, He determined who he was
Speaker 1: gonna be. He's like a look smaxer. He like wrote
Speaker 1: out a list of like what a real man does.
Speaker 1: A man is artistic, he can play the piano. A
Speaker 1: real man has sex for twenty five minutes or six
Speaker 1: five that is what I will do. He is six.
Speaker 1: He is like plan this, he has trained it and
Speaker 1: it is so mediocre and boring and just like it
Speaker 1: is so funny. It's like it is just inhuman. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like, how do I learn to be a
Speaker 1: human being?
Speaker 2: What is the first thing you thought about me when
Speaker 2: you walk down the aisle?
Speaker 1: My shoulders good because I do shoulders on Tuesdays and
Speaker 1: I've been working them on every Tuesday for the last
Speaker 1: six years. So I'm glad you noticed my Tuesday shoulder.
Speaker 3: You think she's falling for it.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe, I don't know. No, I think it's
Speaker 1: like it's like, how do you fall for an android?
Speaker 1: Like it's not interesting, dude, Like it's like you need
Speaker 1: to he needs to like be broken down and be
Speaker 1: a human.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, but it's the whole thing is
Speaker 2: just it's it's amazing in.
Speaker 1: A weird way. I wonder if Adam would be better
Speaker 1: match for Courtney.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I think Courtney would see through
Speaker 2: him too. I think Courtney, she is a bodybuilder, she
Speaker 2: does do a she is sort of in some ways
Speaker 2: a female version.
Speaker 1: She's not a douche. I'm not I don't I'm not equitting,
Speaker 1: but I think that she might be able to break
Speaker 1: him down.
Speaker 3: I don't you know who's actually think it would be the best.
Speaker 3: The best match for him is Nicky.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, he's tall, he makes a ton of money, he's
Speaker 2: got knows exactly.
Speaker 3: What he wants in his life. That's nick It should
Speaker 3: be Nicky.
Speaker 2: And at him, he's young enough to still have kids
Speaker 2: with her.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think he's smart enough though.
Speaker 3: I think he thinks he doesn't read.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she actually reads.
Speaker 3: You don't read everything every day reader, are you?
Speaker 2: Which, by the way, both Stu and I heard that
Speaker 2: when he's like, she's like maca chee's and reading all day,
Speaker 2: and we were both like, it sounds like a magical day.
Speaker 3: It's an incredible day.
Speaker 1: Much better than twenty five minutes of twenty five minutes
Speaker 1: of jet skis. And then I'm gonna give you a concert.
Speaker 1: And then when we're done with that, it's do all
Speaker 1: of Beethoven tonight. I also entered us in to pick
Speaker 1: a ball tournament. Back, Babe, let me warm my hands
Speaker 1: up in the fire. Let me warm my hands up
Speaker 1: in the fire, because I've got a forty five minute song.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Then Sewn and Nicky are getting ready for bed. They're
Speaker 1: gonna stay on different sides, and she finally says he's
Speaker 1: not my physical way necessarily yes, Surprise Surprise tells him
Speaker 1: to keep his shirt on, and she says, I don't
Speaker 1: quote feel attracted to him and makes a sixteen, makes
Speaker 1: a sixty nine joke, not the time, bro, not the time,
Speaker 1: and he says, I'm teasy, and then she's like are you?
Speaker 1: Are you? Then then she say it's her favorite position,
Speaker 1: and this is we're like a little bit of hope.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I mean, I know I'm holding
Speaker 1: out that maybe this is the story arc that these
Speaker 1: two will actually fall in love because he's just kind
Speaker 1: of barky and trying hard the.
Speaker 3: Way his favorite position is a sixty nine.
Speaker 2: I mean it's I don't hate it, obviously, but it's
Speaker 2: not whose favorite position is a sixty nine. It's like
Speaker 2: it's you're at work, but you're also getting what it's
Speaker 2: this is some times is too much just saying it's
Speaker 2: like that, it's fine, I don't hate it, but again,
Speaker 2: favorite position is a sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Really, I find more often it's people's lead, That's.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's where I would find a lot of people, a
Speaker 1: lot of women that I've talked to really find it agreed.
Speaker 1: But that's why I think the fact that she says
Speaker 1: it's her favorite position, I'm like, okay, so maybe there
Speaker 1: is some maybe here. I don't know. All Right, Caitlin
Speaker 1: and Devin getting ready for bed. They're vibing physically. She
Speaker 1: says she has no ick. She like grabs his hands
Speaker 1: and puts them on her cheeks. I'm like, yeah, still my,
Speaker 1: still my like number one, bet.
Speaker 3: No, I'm going with, still going with Filipin.
Speaker 1: Tori, Michelle and Cameron are on a couch. She brings
Speaker 1: up the six months relationship thing again. Yes, he is
Speaker 1: rubbing her shoulder in this scene, which I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: a little bit so much me yep. She says it
Speaker 1: was awesome to hear that he is is ready for commitment,
Speaker 1: and that's where I was like, well, obviously he's unbearried
Speaker 1: with at first sight, so I don't think that's like
Speaker 1: a proof that he is there.
Speaker 2: Also, I just noticed they're also by far the biggest
Speaker 2: age difference thirty twenty eight, So that's there there by
Speaker 2: far the biggest, the biggest age difference.
Speaker 1: She's been in more long term relationships.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: Felipe and Torri are getting ready for bed. He takes
Speaker 1: off his shirt. Oh, this guy's a stud, talks about
Speaker 1: being a go and then he takes off his shirt
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, get as, you've made up for it,
Speaker 1: you've made up where and he's so proud of himself
Speaker 1: and she says he's hot.
Speaker 3: But just yeah, they're into each other.
Speaker 1: He says, he's feeling like you won the lottery. And
Speaker 1: they they lay back and they talk in bed. And
Speaker 1: the way that they're laying back in bed, this is interesting,
Speaker 1: is bad for the camera, right, like straight back it's
Speaker 1: the only yeah, yes there. And I thought that that
Speaker 1: was a great indication that they're actually just having a
Speaker 1: time together because both of them lay back like they
Speaker 1: don't sit up like everybody else. It's like they're sort
Speaker 1: of posing for the These two are already just like
Speaker 1: laying down and talking and they're not caring that the
Speaker 1: cameras shooting up their nose and make you know. I
Speaker 1: thought that was super endearing and like weirdly indicative of
Speaker 1: like a comfort level that nobody interesting.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't put that together, but your on
Speaker 3: hundred percent right.
Speaker 1: Definitely, they're just in there, just into each other. They're
Speaker 1: just like testing each other out, they're getting to know
Speaker 1: each other. They're like already invested in, like laying down
Speaker 1: and talking intimately in a way that like I just
Speaker 1: didn't see it from the other people. So I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think Felipe and Tori are.
Speaker 3: Like, that's my that's my goat, that's where I put
Speaker 3: my money right now.
Speaker 1: They're my number two, Devin Caitlin or my number one.
Speaker 1: I think obviously Nicky and Sean are the ones that
Speaker 1: they're setting up to be the failed couple. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying it now, they're going to turn out to be
Speaker 1: much better for each other.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means all less, but I
Speaker 1: think they're the arc of them is going to be
Speaker 1: holy shit. They actually do have something, okay, but I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm ultimately. I think chemistry is too important.
Speaker 1: I don't think she feels it.
Speaker 3: So who do you think is going to have the
Speaker 3: roughest road?
Speaker 1: Cameron and Michelle?
Speaker 2: Interesting, I think it a strange way. It might be
Speaker 2: nick and Courtney. I think Courtney. I think Courtney's clocked him.
Speaker 3: At this point.
Speaker 2: I think this could I think it could get bad
Speaker 2: or it could be Adam memory if Marissa ever wakes
Speaker 2: up and is like, if he let's put it this way,
Speaker 2: if he stays this way.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, we haven't gotten enough of Marissa's
Speaker 1: interpretation yet. We have not seen she has been so accommodating.
Speaker 1: She has not expressed any doubts really yet, So we
Speaker 1: have no reason she could just this could be she
Speaker 1: could she could just she could love We haven't gotten enough,
Speaker 1: Like I don't love it, but I think you know,
Speaker 1: she could be the want to be trained. She could
Speaker 1: want to learn how to not drink and just avoid
Speaker 1: cancer causing chemicals and play pitoyball.
Speaker 3: That could be, she could love it. You're right, man,
Speaker 3: we don't know yet.
Speaker 2: We have to talk about what an arrangement, which what
Speaker 2: I am for some reason now only going to say
Speaker 2: it like Tony Danza, And today we are going to
Speaker 2: be talking about Czar Peter the Third and Catherine the Great.
Speaker 1: It's always royals, it's always.
Speaker 2: The marriage arranged by Empress Elizabeth. They married in seventeen
Speaker 2: forty five. The marriage was deeply strained, reportedly remained unconsummated
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 3: While Catherine was highly.
Speaker 2: Intelligent and immers her stuff in Russian culture and Enlightenment ideas.
Speaker 2: Peter was considered immature, eccentric, and obsessed about Prussian military.
Speaker 2: Catherine then overthrew her husband, Zar Peter the Third in
Speaker 2: a bloodless palace coup in seventeen sixty two. Their arranged
Speaker 2: marriage was notoriously unhappy, plagued by Peter's immaturity and lack
Speaker 2: of interest in ruling. Capitalizing on Peter's unpopularity, she seized
Speaker 2: the throne and ushered in.
Speaker 3: Russia's Golden Age. Wow, yeah, she took over.
Speaker 2: She was arguably Russia's great one of the greatest rulers
Speaker 2: of all time.
Speaker 1: So wait, once he took up, Once she took over,
Speaker 1: where did he? I think she had him excommunicated? So
Speaker 1: oh my god? So did she just rule alone? Then
Speaker 1: she never found another partner.
Speaker 3: After Catherine, She's a throne.
Speaker 2: In July seventeen sixty two, Peter Third was forced to
Speaker 2: abdicate and was imprisoned in the village of Rapsha. Just
Speaker 2: eight days later, he was assassinated, likely by Alexi or Love,
Speaker 2: a key co conspirator, though the official government cause of
Speaker 2: death was stated to be hemorhoidal colic. So not only
Speaker 2: do they assassinate the guy. But then they've got to
Speaker 2: make it like the most embarrassing thing in the world,
Speaker 2: death by act. He choked on his own dick, like
Speaker 2: like oh no, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Oh, I only call it a bloodless coup. But he
Speaker 1: still got like imprisoned and eventually.
Speaker 3: Well no, he got fassinated. Hey, hey, thank you very
Speaker 3: much hemorrhoidal colic.
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