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Speaker 1: I smell pop culture with Eastern Allen and I heart

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Speaker 1: radio podcast Hey, friends, that's right, is Easton Allen. I

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Speaker 1: am all in podcasts. I smoke pop culture when over

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Speaker 1: them productions. I heart radio. I heard me, I heart podcasts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know it's not Scott Patterson. Let's get that straight here.

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Speaker 1: I know we've been on for a few weeks now,

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Speaker 1: but if you're just joining us, this is not Scott Patterson.

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Speaker 1: This is not his voice. My name is Easton Allen.

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Speaker 1: I'm the sound guy here on the I am all

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Speaker 1: and I are very very close. So, just in case

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Speaker 1: This is a major fixture. This guy is such a

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Speaker 1: pop culture icon, not just in the world of Gilmore Girls,

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Speaker 1: but entertainment at large. When I told my mother that

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Speaker 1: She started screaming. She just absolutely lost control. She can't

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, aren't those great commercials? I know? Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's the thing in podcast apps where you can skip ahead.

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Speaker 1: the I Smell pop Culture podcast on I Am all In.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we do here. Gilmore Girls is a treasure

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Speaker 1: trove of popular culture. Every show or every episode, they

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Speaker 1: mention really exciting things from real life, from pop culture,

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Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls. They talk about it, and we dive deeper.

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Speaker 1: We take those references and we expand upon them. We

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Speaker 1: week we are talking to Mario Lopez. That's right, a C.

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Speaker 1: Mario has a connection to Gilmore Girls. Why say by

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Speaker 1: of made me think of something interesting. Gilmore Girls is

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Speaker 1: Mario Lopez. We're going to talk to Mario Lopez. I'm

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Speaker 3: The girl was trying to get her guide jealous, and

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this. Moriw you're just

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Speaker 1: the best. You're an icon. We're all such big fans

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Speaker 1: and we wish wish all the best. Man. Thank you, you.

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