WEBVTT - Ep. 101: Bear Grease [Render] - Mississippi Turkey Camp 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.520 My name is Clay and Nukam and this is a 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.680 production of the bear Grease podcast called The bear Grease Render, 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.160 where we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:30.000 scenes of the actual bear Grease podcast presented by f 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.320 HF Gear, American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:42.120 that's designed to be as rugged as the places we explore. Okay, guys, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.320 I'd like to read you all a little something here. Okay. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.839 In the spring, these woods are flooded in waves by 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.600 legions of hunters that are cut from a different cloth, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.080 a breed born into an obsession otherwise never seen For 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.480 those sacred few weeks of the year, their state of 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.360 minds shifts seemingly overnight, carry themselves differently. They become difficult 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.520 to get in touch with and eventually speak only when 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.800 spoken to. Jobs are lost, relationships fade, and health becomes 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.760 an afterthought within the eyes of a turkey hunter. Beneath 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.959 the stains of bloodshot that grow with every passing day, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.200 there is an inevitable restlessness building by the hour. Some 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:24.240 are admired, some are hated. Neither of them care. They 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.399 know the cost of this lifestyle are to be paid 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.240 up front or due time and time again, and are 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.319 exchanged for a single chance. But to them, to us, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.840 it's worth it. People know a real turkey hunter when 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.800 they see one, and the book goes on, this is uh, 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:46.120 that was He's got a way with words. That was 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:50.280 the first couple paragraphs of of of a book I've 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.360 got in my hand to hear called the Ballad of 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:56.240 a Turkey Hunter. Hunter. You guys know Hunter, Yeah, we 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.520 both know him. He's a friend. Mississippi guy. Yeah, young guy, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.280 I am Mississippi or something. Our age, yeah, he's he's 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:06.240 right around our age. Yeah yeah, our age yea. And 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:12.120 Jordan's forty three, man, hey, yeah, he's our age. How 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.919 old are you, guys? I'm thirty three, okay, thirty one. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.120 I got a decade on you. Yeah. Man. So before 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:22.200 this started, I was, well, let me introduce my guests. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.040 Got Lake Pickle, the famed, one and only, one and 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:30.760 only Lake Pickle. It's great to have you, man. Slightly overstated, 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.960 but yeah, yeah, he can't be the only person named that. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.760 And yeah, have you met another Lake Pickle? I've met 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.240 another Lake I've met in my lifetime. I've met three 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.560 other individuals named Lake, but never met another Lake Pickle. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.800 Would you have met the other guy's named Lake if 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.440 your name wasn't Lake? One of them? Yes, The other 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.519 two were like, Hey, you got to meet this other 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.600 person named Lake, And I was like, that's fair. Not 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.040 too many dads named you Lake because after he was 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.160 a bass fisherman. He was, he was and is an 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.520 obsessed bass fisherman, and that's where the name Lake came from. Okay, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.160 my wife just yesterday said that she thinks Lake Pickle 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.720 is the most unique name she's ever heard. Will I 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.639 mean probably, I think I haven't met another one. I don't. 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.280 I don't know if I've told you this, but when 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.400 we came down last year to meet you, I just 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.360 assumed it was your Instagram name, And then when I 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.760 met you in first I was like, oh that's he's Yeah, 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.359 he took on his handle as his real name. Yeah, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.920 there was a there was a guy. Um oh you 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:37.640 got answered? Answered, Hey, will that jer hanging from strap? 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.080 Did you? Uh? He was well a little bit of both. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.400 He was hanging by that leather strap. Everybody, Will primost 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.280 is just called Lake Pickle. Tell Will he's on the 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.200 Bear Grease podcast. Will You're currently on the Bear Grease podcast. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.120 We were recording and you called, so I answered, good, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:04:23.320 you can do that podcast. Okay, how could you have 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.719 a podcast and Mississippi start any better than this? Will 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.640 Primo show up in the midst of the podcast? Should 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.920 we just shut it down down? Yeah? We're done this day, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.080 This is done. This day just keeps getting better. Why 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:43.559 oh man? We so Lake Pickle, which we most people 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.160 know like from the years that he worked at Primos, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.719 and we'll talk about that a little bit later. Now 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.720 you work for on X, I do. Yeah, it's been 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.120 about a year. Yeah, because the first time you and 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:54.839 I went Turkey on was right when I started that 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:59.200 transition to on X. Yeah, so that's great. To your 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:04.360 right is Isaac Neil Bear Grease, assistant to the regional producer, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:08.240 Isaac Neil. Good to have you, Isaac, glad to be here. Yeah. Man, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.800 we've had a heck of a twenty four hours. We 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.000 have not even twenty four hours. We have we have 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.960 we have, so you're right, Jordan bliss it, yes, sir? 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.960 How you doing? Man? Man, I'm wonderful. I couldn't be 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.400 any better today. Actually, yeah, I mean I'm assuming people 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.320 kind of get the gist of what's going on after 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:31.640 Whal's conversation. Yeah, yeah, Now, Jordan, I would have known 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.719 you from Primos two, which you don't work at premos 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.119 now you tell tell me what you're doing now pretty 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.719 much just doing real estate and I also help people 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.920 get healthy, so to doing two things at once. Yeah, 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.640 but you you met Lake and that's where we would 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.960 have I would have known your face and voices from 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.640 some of the premos, like and I worked together at 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.320 Promos for six years doing a true series there and 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.000 traveled all over the place and this became best of 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.880 buddies and and what's the name of the realty company 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.360 Open Season Properties, and that that factors into where we 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.880 are right now, right is kind of why. I mean, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.800 while we have access to haunt this place. So what 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:17.400 we do is we specialize in like recreation tracks, like developing, 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.480 you name it. I mean, everything to do with the 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.919 hunting land. We pretty much do it. And uh, like 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.599 the place we're on right now is part of our 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.480 brokerage and it's eventually going to be, you know, up 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.599 for sale for somebody else looking for a recreation place 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:38.000 Clay unless unless say what, let's go in four ways 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:43.640 after this morning more in a couple millions claim squatters rights. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.440 Can you describe the room that we're in right now, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.599 clay or the building where the So this this house 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.839 that we're staying in is on the National Historic Register 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.760 yea of historic Places. Yep, there's the site. There's a 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:02.200 little plaque out there. And uh, so the house was 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.120 built eighteen seventy, that's what it is say as established now. 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.840 The actual house may have been built for that before 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.840 they I don't know exactly the whole history on it us. No, 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.640 it's been here for a minute. Yeah, it's an old 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.640 but beautiful, well taken care of house. This room that 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.400 we're in is is it's all wood, all dark wood. 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.880 I feel like it's probably pine that's been stained. It 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:29.000 could be wrong, but it has very immaculate trim work, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.680 very unique immaculate trim work, even on the ceilings. And 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:39.040 uh there's a there's an old fireplace. It's almost like 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:43.080 a gingerbread house. Not that girly, but like that ornate. Yeah, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:48.920 there's just woodwork everywhere. Yeah, and a big big bookshelf, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:54.400 Duck Decoy's Dear old Guns. Yes, it's a great Turkey camp. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.440 This was the man room, you know, this is in 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.320 my mind. I imagined I can envision somebody sitting over 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.200 on that couch smoking us a go are talking about yeah. Yeah. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.000 We were out here last week and we had never 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.160 been inside this thing, and we were starting to put 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.200 this hunt together for you to come down here. And 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.600 I was like, Jordan, is that house even livable? He's like, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.080 I don't know, ain't been inside. We walk inside and 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.679 we see this big wooden room and all this stuff 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.280 on the wall, and then there's a painting of a 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.360 bear and her cubs running out of a cabin. And 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.440 I was like, yeah, clayol like this place just fine. Yeah, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.960 oh it's it's incredible. And then that picture right there 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.480 behind you got what's that too? Grizzly he's looking at 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.719 a hunter's fisher fisherman okay out fly fishing. He's being 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.360 wall There's some there's some classic art in this place too. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:44.000 Really is it's pretty unique? All all across the board, 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.280 to place, the ground, the house, all of it. Okay, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.160 I got a question. I'll start with you Lake and 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.559 then I'll come back to you, Jordan. All of all 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.839 the years working at Premost, traveling with Will and all 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.960 the guys, what's what is? If you had one story 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.320 to tell that would be most memorable story of traveling 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.880 and hunting, let's just say with Will. Okay, what would 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:09.560 it be? So this just the one that popped right 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.679 in my head. It was my first spring at Premos. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.440 And when I started at Premos, I started like right 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:17.520 at the beginning. So it was elk and deer season 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.920 and waterfowl season first, and I was actually I started 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.480 as like contract work, and I didn't know if I 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.560 was gonna They were kind of keeping me on as 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.280 a trial basis and like my whole goal because what 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:32.200 kind of hooked me into watching Will and being a 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.400 Premos fan growing up with spring turkeys, that was like everything, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:37.760 And so I was like, man, I hope they just 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.959 liked me enough to keep me through at least one spring. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.719 I just wanted to do one spring with Premos. And 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.680 so you know, I made it through deer season and 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.679 into January and they, the executive producer, John Gibson at 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.199 the time, called me, was like, Hey, we'd love to 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.560 use you through spring if you're interested. I was like, yeup. 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.560 And so the end of spring, I really hadn't got 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.160 to hunt with Will that much. At all, and they 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.840 put together this hunt right around the first of maye 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:10.679 in New Mexico. There's gonna be me, Wilbur and Brad Ferris, 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.559 if I remember correctly, And I got so excited because 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.920 I remember watching from being like a you know, a 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.839 kid growing up in central Mississippi. I would watch these 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:24.440 videos of Will hunting these big, just majestic mountains and 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.000 these big white fan Merriam turkeys, and it just was 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.679 like it seemed just like almost fantasy like to me, 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:33.360 like something that wasn't attainable. And they scheduled this trip 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:34.720 and next thing I know, I'm in a truck with 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.200 Wilbur and Brad. We're driving out there, and we go 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.600 out there the first morning and we get in some 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.240 turkeys and I'm just hearing these Merriams. I mean, we 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.440 all know how Mariam sounding. Those mountains just oh blah 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.600 blahlah blah, just echoing the cross and I'm just completely 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.600 lost in the moment. And I think it was the 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:55.520 second day that we ended up killing one, but it 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.880 was I'm gonna say early afternoon, probably like two o'clock 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.520 we spotted this turkey he was in and uh, he 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.120 was actually in an old like a like a wildfire 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.040 had come through that place from a strike of lightning, 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.200 and so he was in that old burn and we 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.440 circle around, we'd get up above him yelp, and the 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.680 turkey gobbles immediately and we scramble and we sit down 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.520 and classic Wilbur's he's shooting like this old side by 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.640 side shotgun with hammers on it, you know, just Wilbur 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.800 loves his old school stuff. But the turkey answers and 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.200 immediately immediately starts coming. And I just see this white 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:30.920 fan break and there's this big, beautiful mountains behind him 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.400 in the background, and I just remember being just completely 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.040 lost in the moment. Turkey comes in, gets to twenty yards, 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.800 Wilbur shoots him, and he goes out there, he gets 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.480 the turkey, and he's, you know, standing there looking at 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.240 Will and Brad and I'm video and and I just 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.520 remember just having this surreal moment of like, how in 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.679 the world did I end up here? You know, how 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.600 did I end up in mountains with Will Primos and 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.920 Brad Ferris. I just felt like I didn't I didn't 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:58.440 know how I got there. I didn't feel like I 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.920 deserved to be there. It was just all these mix 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.520 of emotions and we get through video and and I'll 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:08.400 I'll never forget it. We're standing no I hear record, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.400 No no, no, no, no, no no, It's is a little 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.400 bit more I guess, uh, heart string pulling than that. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.920 We're staying like we're standing there and and we're done 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.600 filming everything, and Will says, wait a minute, and I 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.240 was like, what he said, We're gonna give thanks before 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:26.320 we leave right here. So Wilber laid that turkey down. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.400 Me and Brad and Will stood in the circle, took 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.199 our hats off and prayed right there. And as I'm 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.040 not I'm not not emotional, but I'm not necessarily an 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.000 emotional person. But I don't know, it's just like I 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.040 got just welled up because I just the moment was 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.240 too much for me, you know. But he sat there, 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.240 it was like, we gotta give thanks, and he said 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.840 a prayer and then back down the mountain we went, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.640 that's awesome. That's awesome. And that wasn't on film, No, 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.320 it was not. I mean, that wasn't That wasn't an act. No, 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:01.400 that was just Will being Will Will being Will. Yeah. Man, Yeah, 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.959 that's that's a good one. That's a good one, Jordan, 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.720 what about you? Most memorable thing, man, I'm open for 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.680 like a train wreck story. No, I mean this one 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.679 was so good. This was this was enough like meat 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:20.680 on the bone sentiment, a heart felt, like spiritual son. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.600 The first thing that came to my mind was a 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.680 turkey hunt. Wheel Or we had a county south of here, 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.520 probably forty five minutes south where we're at right now, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.559 and uh will call me. It was a week day. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.040 He called me afternoon before because he knew I'd been 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.520 chasing some turkeys out there on the National Force. He's like, hey, 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.280 if you got time in the morning, gonna go with 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.079 me and we'll try to film a hunt. I got 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.520 permission to hunt his place over here in Madison County. Like, hey, yeah, 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.599 let's go. And uh it was my first spring. That 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.520 was my second spring at promos and uh, man, I 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:58.440 hadn't got to actually sit and hunt with Wheel, just 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.120 like one on one. Usually a group deal, three or 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.679 four of us going and like this this was it 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.720 was pressure like trying to video, but at the same time, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.280 it wasn't like we were two states away and trying 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.679 to under under like a deadline. And we get out 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.360 there that morning, and he had been hunting these turkeys 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.680 a couple of days by himself, and he was like, man, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.920 I think I got him somewhat figured out. We all 0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:25.560 to try to video it, and we get in here 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.320 is just beautiful hardwood and big old growth pine stand. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.280 I mean, lake's been on the place and this is gorgeous. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.840 Timor on me, it looks like a park. And we'll 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.480 get in there that morning, and didn't here the turkeys 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.640 where he thought they'd be. So we just go to start, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.520 you know, walking around and prospecting a little bit, and 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.240 finally get about a quarter a mile half mile where 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.800 he thought they should be, and we yelp and one 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.400 answers us, all right, well we get closer to him 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.720 and get in a spot where we think we can 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.080 yelp him up without him seeing us. We didn't have 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:00.360 any decoys particular morning, so we were just like us 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.360 in the turkey, right and uh, this turkey man. It 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.800 went on for two hours. He was standing in his ground, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.480 we were standing ours. We did him silent treatment on him, 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.400 got aggressive with him, yelping, and he never would break 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.680 and finally uh he uh, we just said, okay, we're 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.240 gonna go quiet for thirty minutes, which is hard for 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:25.480 me and Will because we're like yelping, especially yes and uh. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.320 Every time he reached down there, he told me, he's like, hey, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:33.280 don't let me yelp. And he told me to look 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.840 at my clock on my phone, like, okay, it's I 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.080 don't remember what time was this, so it's like it's 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:44.240 like nine o'clock, I said. He said, look at time, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:45.840 what time is it? I was like, it's you know, 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:49.000 nine o'clock. All right, we aren't you up until nine thirty. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:53.800 And uh, anyway, this it worked if Gobbler finally like 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.480 cut some distance on us and gobbled, and after that 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.400 we answered him and he got fired up and started coming. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.440 Then he went quiet on us. And it's just like 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.560 that anticipation part of it. And we're looking up this 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.480 ridge expecting him to come down his finger to us 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.040 and he can shoot the top of it if he 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.880 comes over. It looks down so to kind of paint 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.360 a picture of what the scenario is, and there's another finger, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.680 Like we're sitting on side of a bowl. There's another 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.080 finger comes down to our left and we're sitting there. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.960 I mean, wheels, guy's going up We're both like, just 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.960 scanning everywhere, just expecting this thing to pop up any second, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.720 and to our left, we're here. It was a gobbler 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.560 yelping and he comes running down his heel yelping at 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.120 us instead of gobbling. The first time I'd ever seen that. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.200 I've heard about it, but usually expect the gobbler to 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.040 fire off and be goblin. But he's yelping looking for 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:53.200 the hen. And anyway, Turkey comes down there and Wilbur 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.680 shoots him, and the excitement that I got to witness 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:01.440 that morning in the Passion, there's a we used the 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.400 quote that he had that morning and so many videos 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.240 since then. It's a sound bite, and I don't remember 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.240 exactly how it went, but if you've listened to any 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.520 of the truth Open Ends on the YouTube channel that 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.240 you've heard, we'll talk about what he said that morning. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.320 But the biggest thing that stood out to me and 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:23.680 well forever be remembered is he, uh, after he said 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.240 thanks the Lord for it happened in that morning, he 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.800 was like, man, I sure do love this, and I 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:31.480 was like, I do too, will Bred and we just 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.920 sat there and talked about that turkey for thirty minutes afterwards. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.200 And this one of those deals growing up in the South. 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.560 I mean, Will promos might as well be Elvis to 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:46.119 a turkey hunter, you know. Yeah, sitting there with him 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.920 talking about that hunt, and that's one of those deals 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.720 I'll never forget, just like I've made it. Yeah, my 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.960 dreams have came true right here. Yeah, got to yelp 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.080 at a turkey wheel and we killed him and just 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.400 celebrated it. Yeah, So that was one of stuck out 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.359 to me. It is something to see with Wilburt like it, 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.600 because I mean, think about how much he's turkey hunted 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.160 since he starts, especially since he started doing the video 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.880 stuff and Jordan like nothing about what Jordan said was embellish. 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.680 There's been times we'll be hunting around here and we'd 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.479 be going all day, walk however many miles and we 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.080 finally hear a turkey and Wilburt just turns into a 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.520 different human being, just gets giddy. He just gets so excited. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.479 And it's to see someone like that just get that 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:35.359 fired up. It's contagious. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know the 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.080 thing about and I've not spent a lot of time 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.399 around Will, but I did get to hunt with him. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.879 Last spring with you Lake, and everybody's always wondering, Well, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.119 I wondered what he's like off camera? You know, people 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:53.040 ask that about people that they know from media some way, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.720 and they're like, well, but what's he like when nobody's around? 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:02.520 And Will Primos? I like, Will Primos better off camera 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.399 than on camera. I mean, he's just a passionate, genuine, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:11.200 caring guy that just just is not We talked about 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.520 this last night. Is not concerned with fame, like it really. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.760 You hear people say stuff like that and you're kind 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:21.080 of like, really, but I saw it. I have a 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.359 couple of stories that it's like he was he was 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.040 not interested in being famous, and uh, and that's why. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.240 That's why he's so authentic. But he he is uniquely 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.600 passionate about life and not just about turkeys. That's what 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:38.480 I saw behind the scenes with Will Primos's He's a 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.880 he's a passionate businessman. He's he's passionate about just anything 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.840 he's doing, hyper passionate about it. Isaac, what's your favorite 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:53.280 Will Primo's story? Well, I have very few of them. No. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.719 We we came down and recorded that podcast with him 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:58.040 last year, and that was just about the only interaction 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.480 I've had other than I saw him this year at 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.840 NWTF and he was making tracks. Well, he made an 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.639 impression on me and you when we were here for 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.440 that podcast, we talked about him the whole ELM. Yeah, 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:12.199 that guy. He just has such a galvanizing personality, like 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.240 you just want to be on his team and pull 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.840 the pull in the same direction as him. Yeah, it's 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.000 it's truly remarkable. And these guys have told us both 0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:24.280 this morning and how how much Will has helped them 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:29.280 to to Will's detriment, like he's not He's not just 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.399 trying to get a bunch of people, yeah, doing stuff 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:35.880 that He's been one of those people that come into 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.439 your life and just a positive influence. It wants to 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:42.199 help you, genuinely wants you to win. Yeah, this is 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.000 a like super short story about Will, but it's a 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.800 like a just to chose his character now he only 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.640 had one Oh yeah, he calls me one morning during 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:53.680 the summer night hunting season. He calls me on Saturday 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.680 and he says, Hey, I guess some stuff going on 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.399 at going on the house. Can you come help me? 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:59.760 And this was not abnormal as like sure, yes, all right, 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.679 there knock on his door, expecting we're doing something in 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:04.720 his garden or in his barn, and he's just he says, hey, 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:07.440 come inside. I'm like okay. He says, you want any coffee. 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.040 I'm like, uh sure, And he's like, all right, go 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:11.960 in my office, just sit down. At this point, I'm like, 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.760 what are we doing? You know about? Yeah? Am I? Am? 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.720 I good? Like? Am I in trouble? But I go 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:18.480 in there, his office, him sitting there, his coffee. He 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.119 walks in, He sits down the chair across from me, 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.240 and he says, hey, man, he's at the office this week, 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.600 and I could tell something was bothering you. I don't 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:28.320 know if it's work, I don't know if it's personal. 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.240 But me and you, we're gonna sit in here. We're 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:31.920 gonna talk about it till we figure it out because 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.680 I don't like seeing you that way. It's just wilbur 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:41.280 m Wow, So what happened? We want the deets? Man? Man, 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.760 I'm kidding. No, that's that's that's a great story. It's 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.800 pretty Yeah, that's a pretty remarkable experience to have with 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.600 a boss. Yeah, yeah, it really is. It really is. Well, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.080 so we're right in the middle of every year on 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:02.480 Bear Grease. At this time year we focus on turkeys, 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:08.119 and so we've now had two Turkey Stories podcasts, and 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.680 I love those because you just get to hear I 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:16.440 love hearing people tell stories, people that are passionate about 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:20.399 what they're doing, that are really knowledgeable, and because you you, 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:24.280 everybody that tells the story is gonna do something different. 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.919 The way they the way they saw things happen, the 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.600 way what they emphasize, what they don't emphasize is always 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:35.639 so interesting to me. But now you listen to that 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:37.560 first one, was there a story that stood out to 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:38.720 you on that one? Or you just thought it was 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:44.360