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Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Matti

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Speaker 2: Glab alongside of CBS Sports. NFL analyst Chris Drapasso, who

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Speaker 2: joins us for the show today and Chris, the players

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Speaker 2: are back out there for practice again as otias are underway.

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Speaker 2: And just as otis are underway, the off season rolls

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Speaker 2: on more players getting signed to big time contracts. A

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Speaker 2: player in the AFC East who's caught a lot of

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Speaker 2: passes from Tuatugabailoa just signed a contract extension with the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins. Jalen Waddle, agreeing to terms on a three

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Speaker 2: year deal worth eighty four point seven five million dollars,

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Speaker 2: which includes seventy six million dollars guaranteed, makes him one

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Speaker 2: of the league's top five highest paid receivers. He's put

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Speaker 2: up three straight one thousand yard seasons since coming into

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Speaker 2: the NFL, and did so last season just playing in

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Speaker 2: fourteen games. Also has eighteen touchdowns so far in his

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Speaker 2: NFL career and has had three straight seasons with at

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Speaker 2: least seventy catches. The Dolphins are not just paying Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 2: they are also paying Tyreek Hill. That's two players who

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Speaker 2: are making around thirty million dollars per year. Wow, Jalen

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Speaker 2: Waddle another receiver getting paid big time money. This receiver market,

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Speaker 2: it's going crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's going absolutely insane.

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Speaker 4: We still have I mean, I do think Jay the

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Speaker 4: Model probably deserves that type of money you mentioned, going

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Speaker 4: over one thousand hours only in fourteen games, kind of

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Speaker 4: dealt with like nagging injuries last season. But we still

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Speaker 4: have Brandon Ayuk who wants a new deal. T Higgins

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Speaker 4: of course in Cincinnati, and then the big ones, you know,

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Speaker 4: justin Jefferson, what's he going to ultimately get? Are we

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Speaker 4: going to see wide receivers, you know, more than thirty

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars. I think we probably will, or thirty million

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Speaker 4: dollars per year. We probably will. And to mention that

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Speaker 4: Miami has two of these players, it's a total stark

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Speaker 4: contrast from what we have in Buffalo with the Bills.

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Speaker 4: They're really not paying anyone big money anymore. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs does have the dead cap hit, but we're

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Speaker 4: starting to see that some teams are willing to shell

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Speaker 4: out the huge money to their pass catchers. And then

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Speaker 4: teams like the Bills, like the Chiefs, and like the

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Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers, who have let go of elite veteran

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Speaker 4: AFC East. Just like that dichotomy of the financials at

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Speaker 2: Receiver spot, it's interesting to see how teams put their

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Speaker 2: rosters together. We are now months out of the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 2: which I believe is the last time we saw each

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Speaker 2: NFL Scouting Combine, which was in preparation for the NFL Draft,

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Speaker 2: and teams are looking quite different now that they have

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Speaker 2: built up their rosters through the draft and free agency,

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Speaker 2: and players are getting signed to big time deals, Jalen

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Speaker 2: receiver who got an extension with the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 2: a one year contract. He was a restricted free agent

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Speaker 2: a one year contract extension to keep him with San

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Speaker 2: Francisco through the twenty twenty five season. The deal's worth

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Speaker 2: up to fifteen point four million dollars with ten and

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Speaker 2: a half million guaranteed. This is another player who's been

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Speaker 2: in the year for three seasons, like Jalen Waddle. In

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Speaker 2: his career seventy six catches, nine hundred and sixty three

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Speaker 2: receiving yards, seven touchdowns. He had two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: do the math, he's making about seven point seven million

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Speaker 2: dollars per year. This is a player who the forty

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Speaker 2: worked at the University of Tennessee. He was a receiver

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Speaker 2: the university fell in love with. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 2: He really really cares about the sport. We hear and

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Speaker 2: we learned when Stefan Diggs was here. He was a

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Speaker 2: be better players. And that is somebody who Jwan Jennings

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Speaker 2: is He just really cares the game, has such a

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Speaker 2: grow as a collegiate football player now into the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But bringing it back to the seven point seven million

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Speaker 2: dollars per year, according to reports that we've seen, Curtis

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Speaker 2: Samuel's deal for the Bills is three years, twenty four

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Speaker 2: about eight million dollars per year two different receivers. Curtis

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Speaker 2: has spent more years in the league. Juwan Jennings not

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Speaker 2: as much, but Juwan Jennings stats aren't anything crazy. Now

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Speaker 2: they're thinking about what he can do in the next

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Speaker 2: two years with this team. But you look at those

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Speaker 2: two deals and you say, good job Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 4: And that's been my thing that I've been hammering this offseason,

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Speaker 4: that getting Curtis Samuel for only eight million dollars per

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Speaker 4: year when we're seeing Jalen Wattle at twenty six million

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Speaker 4: dollars per year, Devonte Smith good wide receiver for the Eagles,

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Speaker 4: but the number two to aj Brown twenty five million

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Speaker 4: average per year. To it, Curtis Samuel for only eight

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Speaker 4: You mentioned with the context of Juwan Jennings to be

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Speaker 4: very close to that. I think with Josh Allen, Curtis

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Speaker 4: Samuel probably can be the best player that he's been.

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Speaker 4: He's kind of been held back in Carolina when Brandon

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Speaker 4: Bean was there twenty seventeen all the way through twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: and then in Washington never really had a high caliber quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Now he gets that kind of feels similar to the

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Speaker 4: John Brown signing in twenty nineteen, like this mid tier

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Speaker 4: never had the elite level production. Because of the quarterback play,

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Speaker 4: could be looking as early as maybe October and say, wow,

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Speaker 4: this looks like a huge bargain. Two other things about

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Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel the wide receiver financials that I'm thinking about.

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Speaker 4: I wonder paying Tyreek Kill that money, paying Jalen Waddle

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Speaker 4: now twenty five twenty six million dollars per year, what

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Speaker 4: happens with Tua, Like there's kind of a give and

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Speaker 4: the Dolphins saying, hey, we kind of believe in our

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Speaker 4: be interesting to see because they had to let Christian

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Speaker 4: Wilkins go in free agency, their star defensive tackle who

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Speaker 4: the last couple of years. They allocate the money to

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Speaker 4: Jalen Wadel. What happens with Twetunguovailoa And then one other

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Speaker 4: wide receiver that I forgot, Ceedee Lamsill has to get

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Speaker 4: his contract too in Dallas. So I think within the

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Speaker 4: gonna be like, yeah, a top number one wide receiver

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Speaker 4: deal to me with Ayuk, with Deebo Samuel, Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 4: the offense runs through him in San Francisco. Now you

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Speaker 4: re signed Jennings. You drafted Ricky Pearsall in the first

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Speaker 2: You're saying, he's looking like a great receiver already out there.

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Speaker 4: It's too crowded of a wide receiver tight end room.

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Speaker 4: What happens do we see at Brandon Ayuk trade. It

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Speaker 4: kind of feels similarly going way back ten years ago,

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Speaker 4: when the Bills drafted Sammy Watkins, it was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: they have Sammy Watkins in Robert Woods and Stevie Johnson,

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Speaker 3: Was traded like two days later.

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Speaker 4: We obviously haven't seen that yet in San Francisco, but

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Speaker 4: there's just only one football to go around and so

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Speaker 4: many weapons, and now like you're saying to invest in

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Speaker 4: Juwan Jennings for the next two years, to me, indicates

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Speaker 4: that either Debo or Brandon Ayuk is probably going to

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have so many weapons on both sides

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Speaker 2: out of the bye week. It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 2: what the forty nine ers look like toward the back

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine Ers at home. And Chris,

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Speaker 2: I haven't gotten to talk to you since OTAs have started.

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Speaker 2: Since the guys have really been back for workouts since April.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the roster as it is right now, what

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Speaker 2: are some of your biggest takeaways of how this Bills

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think to go into this offseason, it was not

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Speaker 4: even just locally but nationally, like, what are the Bills

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Speaker 4: going to do? They have so much dead cap space,

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Speaker 4: they trade Stefon Diggs. It was kind of a seismic thing,

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Speaker 4: and that came after releasing Jordan Poyer, Mitch Morse, things

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Speaker 4: like that. I think Brandon Bean has kind of done

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Speaker 4: what he's always done bargain bin free agent signings. I

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Speaker 4: love that he made a ten player draft class that

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Speaker 4: the offensive line, I think Cole Bishop is going to

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Speaker 4: think the defense needed that type. And then even Javon

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Speaker 4: I think that's again another kind of niche type of

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Speaker 4: you can pinpoint, you know, strengths and weaknesses of the

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Speaker 4: entire draft class, Mike Edwards, Chase Claypool, so many pieces

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Speaker 4: that Brandon Bean has brought in that are not gonna

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Speaker 4: be you know, breaking the bank. We talked about Curtis

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Speaker 4: working both the draft and not overspending in free agency,

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Speaker 4: but diversifying and not just pushing all his chips into

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Speaker 4: one or two free agents, but adding a lot of pieces,

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Speaker 4: even Austin Johnson to be that backup to day Kwon

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Speaker 4: looks like one of the most complete, well rounded rosters

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Chase Claypool, that was a late addition for

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and the roster you know, may not

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Speaker 2: be exactly set right now as we head into training camp.

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Speaker 2: Guys may get added to the roster, people may leave

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Speaker 2: the roster, there may be some, you know, a move

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Speaker 2: here or there as we move into June and July,

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Speaker 2: but Chase is one of the light additions to the

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Speaker 2: addition because of how people may perceive him in the league,

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Speaker 2: that he did play for. Someone who started out hot

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Speaker 2: and if you didn't catch it yesterday, it was on

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Speaker 4: and we've seen a lot of these players deal with

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Speaker 4: injuries in the past. Maybe they all just stay completely

437
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Speaker 4: healthy and the Jets are one of the more formidable teams,

438
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Speaker 4: but I think it's a very risky bet for this team,

439
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Speaker 4: not even just Hey, you know, Curtis Samuel got injured

440
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Speaker 4: what twenty twenty one, but he's younger, it's easier to

441
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Speaker 4: bounce back. He played at a pretty good level last

442
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Speaker 4: season relative to the quarterback play. When you're talking Aaron

443
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Speaker 4: Rodgers at forty one, Tyron Smith into his thirties, Morgan

444
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Speaker 4: Moses at thirty three, you're dealing with older players that

445
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Speaker 4: have not just dealt with an injury last year, but

446
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Speaker 4: have just gone through the bumps and bruises of multiple

447
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Speaker 4: NFL seasons.

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Speaker 2: And we've seen this offensive line get hurt over and

449
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Speaker 2: over and over again. It's not something that just happened

450
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Speaker 2: last season. I mean it was this season prior to

451
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Speaker 2: that too, where they've dealt with injuries and had to

452
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Speaker 2: have several different fronts come across from Week one to

453
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Speaker 2: week Week eighteen. It's been a lot of different versions

454
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Speaker 2: of the offensive line that they have had to go through.

455
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Speaker 2: Where thankfully the Bills last season they were lucky with Hey,

456
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Speaker 2: we're gonna roll with the same five guys pretty much

457
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Speaker 2: the entire season, minus hey, this person needs to come

458
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: off the field for five snaps to deal with something.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that's the case again for the Bills, because I

460
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Speaker 2: think we saw the offense really benefit from having the

461
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Speaker 2: same five guys on the field, and we saw that

462
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Speaker 2: through the run game opening up and James Cook really

463
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Speaker 2: coming on strong toward the end of last season. Ty

464
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Speaker 2: Johnson sprinkled in there as well. I'm really excited to

465
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Speaker 2: see what Joe Brady does with this offense and how

466
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Speaker 2: he involves the running game in it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and one point to that, I've been the biggest

468
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Speaker 4: proponent of you know, this is a Josh Allen offense.

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Speaker 4: We heard that from Joe Brady that the Bill should

470
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Speaker 4: be one of the past heaviest teams on first down,

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Speaker 4: neutral score situations, just any situation they should lean. You know,

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Speaker 4: one in doubt, let Josh Allen throw the football, but

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Speaker 4: in those critical situations and if the defense is dictating

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Speaker 4: giving James Cook, Ray Davis, and Ty Johnson's light boxes

475
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Speaker 4: and there's five, six, seven guys in the box and

476
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Speaker 4: you have a bigger, more formidable, physical offensive line than

477
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Speaker 4: you had maybe two or three years ago with Ocyrus Torrens.

478
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Speaker 4: David Edwards is one of the bigger left guards in

479
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Speaker 4: the league. Connor McGovern's going to be one of the

480
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Speaker 4: biggest centers in the league this season. If the defense

481
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Speaker 4: is is begging you to run, you have a talented,

482
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Speaker 4: super talented running back dynamic in James Cook. I don't

483
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Speaker 4: think you just always throw the football just because you

484
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Speaker 4: have Josh Allen. There should be times we saw it.

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Speaker 4: It was perfect in that Dallas Cowboys game last season.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was billed as this, you know, potential shootout.

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Speaker 4: Then it's crappy weather, it's rainy. They're like, you know what,

488
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Speaker 4: maybe we don't have to throw the football forty times

489
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Speaker 4: this game, and James Cook has over two hundred yards

490
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Speaker 4: from scrimmage and they were able to win a key

491
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Speaker 4: game that a lot of people thought, Hey, this is

492
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Speaker 4: where the Bills playoff run kind of halts. They're going

493
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Speaker 4: to lose to the Cowboys that can score all these points.

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Speaker 4: If you have the ability to be multi dimensional, I

495
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Speaker 4: think it's good to have that in your back pocket

496
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Speaker 4: and going in from the back half of last year

497
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Speaker 4: into this year. I think the Bills are more apt

498
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Speaker 4: to be successful consistently on the ground, and they've been

499
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Speaker 4: really at any other stage of the Josh Allen arrow.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to bring that game up. They

501
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Speaker 2: had two hundred and sixty six rushing yards to just

502
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Speaker 2: eighty five passing yards, and I remember Joe Brady was

503
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Speaker 2: calling the plays by that point in the season, and

504
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Speaker 2: everybody kept saying, including Sean McDermott, when we heard from

505
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Speaker 2: players and coaches in postgame press conferences, it was kudos

506
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Speaker 2: to Joe Brady to sticking with the run game. They

507
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Speaker 2: had a plan going into this game that most likely

508
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Speaker 2: was not, let's run the football the entire game. They

509
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Speaker 2: probably worked hard at not probably, they did work hard

510
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Speaker 2: at installing things, at figuring out how can we beat

511
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Speaker 2: this Cowboys defense with Josh's arm and with the wide

512
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Speaker 2: receivers that we have. But the run game started to

513
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Speaker 2: work at one point and they stuck to it. And

514
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Speaker 2: I think it says a lot about an offensive coordinator

515
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Speaker 2: to throw your game plan away and just stick to

516
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Speaker 2: what's working on the field, because you're putting your pride

517
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Speaker 2: aside to do what's working.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of the on field embodiment to me

519
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 4: of what Brandon Bean always talks about that roster wise,

520
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: they're always trying to improve and we're coming up on

521
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Speaker 4: June first. They could be another signing like a Leonard

522
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Speaker 4: Floor signing last year. It's the on field embodiment where, yes,

523
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Speaker 4: you know what you have in Josh Allen. You want

524
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Speaker 4: to keep the fastball offensively and throwing the ball through

525
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Speaker 4: the air, but just continue to improve to get the

526
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Speaker 4: run offense better and for as good as Devin Singletary

527
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Speaker 4: and Zach Moss Frank or that group was. Early in

528
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Speaker 4: the Josh Allen era, there were a lot of games

529
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Speaker 4: where it's like, man, the Bills just really can't run

530
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Speaker 4: the ball when they need to.

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Speaker 3: There's you know, everyone's chasing.

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Speaker 4: The Kansas City Chiefs and Isaiah Pacheco has been a

533
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Speaker 4: godsend for that team early on last season, throughout the

534
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Speaker 4: mid mid portion of the season, where the Chiefs weren't

535
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Speaker 4: really themselves offensively, they were not having the production at

536
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Speaker 4: the wide receiver spot. Travis Kelsey was a little bit

537
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 4: dinged up. They were able to lean on their defense

538
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Speaker 4: and Isaiah Pacheco to be that just grinder to get

539
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Speaker 4: you one hundred yards on the ground to eat the

540
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Speaker 4: clock and then the defense can make a play and

541
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Speaker 4: then suddenly the Chiefs are winning a lot more football game.

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Speaker 4: So for as much as I again I want and

543
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: believe the Bills will be pass heavy, it's very important

544
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: to have a run game that when needed, whether it's

545
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Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter of a game or the fourth

546
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Speaker 4: quarter of a season, it's vital, I think in today's NFL,

547
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Speaker 4: especially when teams are going to come in saying we

548
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: need to stop Josh Allen. Then suddenly James Cook can

549
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Speaker 4: go off for one hundred and fifty plus.

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Speaker 2: If you can run on light boxes, I mean, you

551
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 2: can do a lot for your team. That's just you know,

552
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Speaker 2: a cheat code right there. We've got a Twitter topic

553
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Speaker 2: for today, what has been the best offseason moved by

554
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: the Bills? You can give as a call at eight

555
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: h three to five point fifty will be answering some

556
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Speaker 2: phone calls. Next, we also have Doug Farrar coming on

557
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Speaker 2: the show USA Today, NFL writer and editor. He will

558
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: join us at two o'clock. So we've got some great

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Speaker 2: stuff coming up. Don't go anywhere here on One Bill's

560
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Speaker 2: Live represented by Clidahalth on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back

561
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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live medi glab alongside of Christrapasso.

562
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Speaker 2: We've got a topic for you today. What was the

563
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: best off season move by the Bills. You can tweet

564
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Speaker 2: at us or give us call it eighth three five

565
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Speaker 2: point fifty, But before we go to the tweet sheet

566
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Speaker 2: and the phone lines, I wanted to get your opinion first.

567
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Speaker 2: What would you say is the best move?

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Speaker 3: All right, I.

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Speaker 4: Won't spend too much time at repeating myself, but I

570
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Speaker 4: think just in terms of one transaction, it was the

571
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Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel signing to get him at eight million dollars

572
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Speaker 4: per season. We mentioned it in the first segment. We've

573
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Speaker 4: seen just the beginning of the explosion of the wide

574
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Speaker 4: receiver position. Financially, we're going to get three or four

575
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Speaker 4: more giant deals. And I use the DeVante Smith comparison

576
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Speaker 4: because when I was in last week and i've I

577
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: did a little comparison or a projection of based on

578
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Speaker 4: what John Brown, Cole Beasley, and Stefan Diggs the boost

579
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Speaker 4: that they got coming to Buffalo with Josh Allen, Curtis

580
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Speaker 4: Samuel should be right around eighty catches one thousand yards.

581
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Speaker 4: That was Davonte Smith's stat line last season. He's making

582
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Speaker 4: twenty five million per year. Curtis Samuel eight million.

583
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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: But to go Galaxy Brain, to kind of go next

585
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: level for you. The wasn't really a move by the Bills.

586
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Speaker 4: It was a decision from one of their players, Von Miller,

587
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Speaker 4: to just walk up to Brandon Bean and say, I

588
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Speaker 4: will reduce my salary from seventeen point one million.

589
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Speaker 3: To about eight million.

590
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: This year was huge for the Bills to sign Nicholas

591
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: Morrow and Mvs and Mike Edwards and resign Aja Epanessa

592
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: and day Kwon Jones. Maybe Dion Jones at linebacker is

593
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 4: a good insurance option. Early on Chase Clay we talked

594
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Speaker 4: about him. That was something that none of us expected.

595
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you did. I certainly thought Von

596
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Speaker 4: Miller's gonna be like, hey, you traded for me, or

597
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: you signed me. You gave me this gigantic deal over

598
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars. You got to pay it out.

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Speaker 4: But von Miller said, I'm willing after last season, with

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Speaker 4: such a disappointment, to bet on myself, so to me

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Speaker 4: in terms of Brandon Bean being able to restock the

602
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Speaker 4: shells with bargain bin free agents. That decision from von Miller,

603
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Speaker 4: I think was a very veteran leadership type move to say, look,

604
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Speaker 4: I've made an insane amount of money in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: I'll reduce my cap hit, maybe earn him back and

606
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Speaker 4: sentives to give me motivation and also allow Brandon Bean

607
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Speaker 4: to make some more moves in free agency.

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Speaker 2: I really hope he comes out in Week one early

609
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Speaker 2: on in the season, von Miller and just is the

610
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Speaker 2: player that we all wanted him to be in this

611
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's uniform because last year was disappointing for himself,

612
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: but for all of us too, who wanted to see, Okay,

613
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Speaker 2: what can this guy do? What can he give us

614
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Speaker 2: when we know what he's done in big time games.

615
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: So hopefully we get that version of von Miller this

616
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Speaker 2: season with a healthy day Kwon Jones next to him.

617
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you think about this defensive line being

618
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Speaker 2: healthy with players like Greg Russo and aj Epanessa in there,

619
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Speaker 2: and Ed Oliver of course, with some of the new

620
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Speaker 2: players that we got through free agency and drafted in

621
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Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter, John Solomon, Austin Johnson, Dwayne Smooth, like, some

622
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Speaker 2: of these guys could be great rotational players for this team.

623
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Speaker 2: And if you look at the starting four that we're

624
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Speaker 2: projecting could be the starting for this could be a

625
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Speaker 2: pretty great defensive line if they stay healthy, I believe.

626
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Speaker 4: And Sean McDermott is going to rotate as much as

627
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Speaker 4: any defensive coordinator head coach in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So I think you're.

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Speaker 4: Reading off all those names, You're like, man, they have

630
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Speaker 4: so many defensive linemen, Well, they need that, And I

631
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Speaker 4: think that's been integral to defensive players wanting to sign

632
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Speaker 4: here and being okay with one years because they know

633
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: that their coach is not gonna max them out and

634
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: wear their bodies down for future years and for late

635
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: into a season, so to get some more pieces up

636
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: front to have to go seven eight deep, I think

637
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 4: really has helped and is a great philosophy for Sean McDermott.

638
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like the opposite or the similar

639
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: track as the wide receiver position, where there's so many

640
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: bodies you know not all of them are gonna hit,

641
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 4: but if one or two of the defensive lineman hit,

642
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 4: suddenly you're already six or seven deep. You have some

643
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 4: defensive linemen on rookie deals as well, then Sean McDermott

644
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: will really have what he wants.

645
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Speaker 3: Bobby Babbitch too.

646
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Speaker 4: We don't know what he's gonna ultimately do with the defense,

647
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: but we know they want to rotate up front, and

648
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 4: we've seen von Miller twenty twenty two, he was like

649
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Speaker 4: tracking toward maybe being a defensive Player of the year.

650
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Speaker 4: Fluke injury against the Lions on Thanksgiving doesn't look like

651
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Speaker 4: he really does anything to his and he tears his

652
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Speaker 4: ACL And what's interesting to me, it kind of got

653
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Speaker 4: lost in that game in the Division A round loss

654
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Speaker 4: to the Chiefs. Von Miller was good in that game.

655
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: There was the last I think two Chiefs possis the

656
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: Bills were able to hold them before they kind of

657
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 4: ran out the clocks to get the Bills back into

658
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: that game. Later rush snaps and wins where he was

659
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: close to Patrick Mahomes and was going to maybe be

660
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: that closure. Maybe getting a sack or a forced fumble

661
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: certainly pressured Patrick Mahomes, so it kind of came alive

662
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: a little in the final game of the season. Maybe

663
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: he just wasn't at his age fully back from the

664
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Speaker 4: injury until you know, mid January. Now he has an

665
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: entire offseason, no surgery, no injury setbacks. If von Miller,

666
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: now at a lesser cap number, can be even eighty

667
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: or ninety percent of what he was in twenty twenty two,

668
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: along with all the additions up front that will rotate

669
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Speaker 4: through the you're mentioning, Maddie, I think we're going to

670
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 4: be looking at another top flight Bills defensive line in

671
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four.

672
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Speaker 2: Yeah. In twenty twenty two, von Miller did have a

673
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: great season up until you know the second half of

674
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: it when we didn't see as much of him. But

675
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: he finished the season with eight sacks playing in just

676
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: eleven games. That's almost a sack of game. And I

677
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: think if we get something like that out of him

678
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: this season, it would really take that group to the

679
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: next level. I will quickly say what I think was

680
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: the biggest offseason move by the Bills. I'm going with

681
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: the coaching staff Joe Brady hiring him as offensive coordinator

682
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: and hiring Bobby Babbage as defensive coordinator. The way that

683
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: we've heard the players inside the building talk about these two,

684
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 2: rave about these two the defensive players say Bobby Babbitche

685
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: is the smartest guy I know. He just has a

686
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: brain knack for football like no one else does. I

687
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: really am excited to see what it looks like when

688
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Week one comes around. I know we don't know yet

689
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: if he's going to be the one calling play Sean

690
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 2: McDermott said, Hey, ask me that question once we get

691
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: into training camp. Right now, we're just trying to get

692
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: a handle on things and teach guys this playbook. But

693
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: I think having him in that position is going to

694
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 2: do a lot for for this defense. And then you

695
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: have Sean mcderant as the head coach, who's just a

696
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: defensive minded coach. We saw what he did last season

697
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: in that DC position, and just having him over Bobby

698
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: Babbitch as someone who can help guide and lead him

699
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: as Bobby is in his first time, first year as

700
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator, I think is great for Bobby and

701
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: is great for Sean. I think those two will pair

702
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 2: up really nicely together. And I can't wait to see

703
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: what this defense looks like under Bobby. And for the

704
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: offense too. I mean, all these players have been saying

705
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Joe Brady wants to create an offense that's for us.

706
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 2: We're all going to eat this is Josh Allen's offense.

707
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: Things that we've heard Joe Brady say. And I just

708
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: feel like the relationship aspect between the players and Bobby

709
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: and the players and Joe is so great. They're younger guys,

710
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: so I feel like they jive with them a little bit,

711
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: they relate it a little bit better, and that's gonna

712
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: pay off once the games start, because this time right

713
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: now is about creating these relationships with these players and

714
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: if you can, if you can hit a home run

715
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: in May and June by doing that, We've heard Josh

716
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: Allen say, I cannot state how important it is to

717
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: build those relationships right now because it really does pay

718
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: off once the season starts. If Joe and Bobby can

719
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: do that right now with these guys, I think we're

720
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: going to see something special in September.

721
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very quickly. How about this.

722
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 4: There's obviously national talk about what's this Bills offense going

723
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: to look like?

724
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 3: Without Stefan Digg's right to me, we've already seen it.

725
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: I mean last year down the stretch, there was that

726
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: line of demarcation going from Ken Dorsey to Joe Brady.

727
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 4: From the game against the Jets at home, Joe Brady's

728
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 4: first game as the Bills offensive coordinator. Through the regular

729
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: season finale, Stefan Diggs only averaged five catches in forty

730
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: five yards per game. And then he has three catches

731
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 4: for twenty one yards in the Divisional round, seven catches

732
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: for fifty two yards in the wildcard round against the Steelers.

733
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Speaker 4: So he's right at that average, just about about four

734
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: or five catches a game for about forty or fifty yards.

735
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Speaker 4: He was not the elite player that Ken Dorsey and

736
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 4: Brian Dable could lean on earlier in the Josh Allen era.

737
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: And I think what Joe Brady did without Stefan Diggs

738
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 4: was kind of maybe I don't want to say, push

739
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: Stefon Diggs out the door, but made Brandon Bean a

740
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 4: little bit more okay with Hey, I've seen him spread

741
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: the football around. You mentioned everybody's eating. So to me,

742
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 4: that is the most encouraging part is that he's not like, oh,

743
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: I kind of have my hands tied behind my back

744
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 4: now because I don't have an elite receiver.

745
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 3: He was on the field.

746
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 4: Last year, but he was not the big producer down

747
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: the stretch in the Joe Brady offense last year.

748
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: So what do you guys think is the best offseason

749
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: move that the Bills have made in the last couple months.

750
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: So we've got Frank from north Tonawanda who's been hanging

751
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: on the phone line, so we'll get right over to him. Frank,

752
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: what do you believe is the best move the Bills

753
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: have made?

754
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 5: Thanks for taking my call. I think what the best

755
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: move was to make was actually a bunch of moves.

756
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: Getting a bunch of white outs who actually aren't the

757
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: traditional wide outs in terms of production, but actually our

758
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: big guys like these six three sixty four guys who

759
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 5: can actually back up the rule receivers or pass catches

760
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 5: we have on this team who are Dalton and Kate

761
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: and Knox. But I've been thinking the Bills offense this

762
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 5: year as what I call the twelve man two tight

763
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 5: ends set up with Dalton and Kate and with Knox

764
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 5: as the two starters on the team, and the white

765
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 5: Outs are there to replace. Actually, what Diggs's role was

766
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 5: not in producing catches, but really as a threat that

767
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: freed up those tight end guys to go out and

768
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 5: get the ball. And Gabe Davis was I think he

769
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: was like zero production in a number of games during

770
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 5: our Big five wins at the end of the season,

771
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: and actually, I think his blocking ability is something we're

772
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 5: going to have to replace. So I think when we

773
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 5: look at Kapoole and all the guys that we picked

774
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 5: up at wide receiver, it's actually going to be the

775
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: good blockers, the guys who can flex and go wide

776
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: or who can come in and play like almost a

777
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: tight end position, that are going to be the key.

778
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 5: And we're really going to see the Bills really to

779
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: the position list receivers and things like that, and this

780
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: is really going to be intriguing as the year goes on.

781
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Frank, appreciate it, and yeah, that's

782
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a great point. By talking about the

783
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: receiver room all the receivers they've added to it. The

784
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: point about blocking, Joe Brady brought up Curtis Samuel the

785
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: other day when asked about what he's done so far

786
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: and what he's looked like so far, and Joe Brady

787
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: mentioned he's one of the greatest blockers I've ever seen.

788
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: So to be able to use some of these players

789
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: as blockers and set up different things, you know, could

790
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: be another new wrinkle to this offense, another new look

791
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: to this offense.

792
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: And then how about the.

793
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: Fact too, that you're thinking of, you know, envisioning Mac

794
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 4: Collins or MVS or Justin Shorter, who we actually haven't

795
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 4: talked about today, which is the first for me being

796
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 4: it's normally always calls about Justin Shorter.

797
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: I'm certainly intrigued as well. Chase Claypool.

798
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: You have a back in James Cook that is a

799
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: low four to four guy that has proven to be

800
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: someone that has early in his career developed with his

801
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 4: vision in following his blocks between the tackles. But he

802
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: wants to get outside. And I think in that Cowboys

803
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: game a few others where James Cook went over one

804
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: hundred yards or maybe was a low volume guy but

805
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: hit a few big plays. He's in the middle, bounces

806
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 4: to the outside. That's where you get a Chase Claypool

807
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: block or in the past a Gabe Davis block that

808
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 4: springs a twenty yard gain into a forty or fifty

809
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: yard game. So that's a good point by Frank. And

810
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: you were mentioning that too, that you thought just throwing

811
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: a bunch of darts at the wide receiver room off

812
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: the air to me that you like that decision.

813
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: Something's gonna stick. Yeah, I like it too, because, hey,

814
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: the Bills did not have lots of money to spend

815
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: in the off season. Brandon Bean And told that countless

816
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: numbers of times not to expect anything huge in the

817
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: offseason in terms of players, because you're paying a quarterback

818
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: like Josh Allen, you're paying some other premier positions. You know,

819
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: you trade stuff on digs, but you still have to

820
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 2: eat some of that money. And so you look at

821
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: a position like the wide receivers in a different way,

822
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: and you say, how can we load up here and

823
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: make life easy for Josh by having guys talented players

824
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: to throw to, but not paying somebody twenty five to

825
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars a year. And they do that by

826
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: signing a slew a different of different players who I

827
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: think can bring a lot to the table. And then

828
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: you do it by drafting someone who I think has

829
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: great upside.

830
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the two receivers to me that I think

831
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 4: will harken Josh back to twenty twenty, last three or

832
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 4: four years, Curtis Samuel Khalilshek. Here they can get open

833
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 4: Dalton Kinkaid is one of the smoothest tight ends. I

834
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: said last year in the draft that he was not

835
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 4: my number one tight end, but he was definitely the

836
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: smoothest separator he could get open. But what I also

837
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: like is now you have an element and gave Davis

838
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: gave the Bills some of this more earlier in his

839
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 4: career than the last few years. But they're these bigger

840
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 4: bodies that are back shoulder rebounder types that allow Josh

841
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: Allen to see the tiniest little window, trust his arm

842
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: strength and his arm talent and his accuracy, and to

843
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 4: just rip the football when you're doing that. Even to

844
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs or John Brown or Cole Beasley, that's not

845
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: really their games. But Chase Claypool certainly is keyon Coleman.

846
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: If he has a specialty, it's probably that MVS as well.

847
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 4: So I think you kind of give Josh Allen both

848
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: flavors of guys who he will see open and others

849
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 4: down the field, those slot fades in the red zone

850
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 4: that he can just say, Eh, that guy's not really open,

851
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: but I'm just going to fire a seventy mile power

852
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: fastball to them and let them use their bodies to

853
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: kind of box out and win in those rebounding situations.

854
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: Think about what this team is going to be able

855
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: to do in the red zone this season. A lot

856
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: of the times in the last few years, our red

857
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: zone target was Dawson Knox because he was one one

858
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: of the biggest guys on the roster. And now you

859
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: have several guys on the roster who are considered bigger receivers,

860
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: bigger players. You're going to be able to toss that

861
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: ball up not just to your tight ends this season,

862
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: but to several different wide receivers. You're opening things up

863
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: for the team in the red zone in terms of

864
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: who you can get to get the ball to. That's

865
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: going to pay off in more touchdowns, more points on

866
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: the scoreboard.

867
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

868
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: And I think even with it being so condensed there,

869
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 4: they can still run the football. We talked about that

870
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 4: in the first segment, but there were times, not as

871
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 4: much last year, but twenty twenty two where the Chiefs

872
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: were just creating all these different formations in the red zone.

873
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: They were so good there. The Bills had some struggles there.

874
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 4: They've again done what I think Brandon Bean is always

875
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: working to do. Improve the roster and to be better

876
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: in the run game and when we move it inside

877
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: the twenty, and the Bills can move it from twenty

878
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 4: to twenty as good as any team in football. We

879
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: need to be able to not just have a Stefon

880
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 4: Diggs getting open or like you're mentioning, Dawson Knox is

881
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 4: a crazy high touchdown numbers relative to how many catches

882
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: he's head in the NFL. Maybe it's a Justin Shorter,

883
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a Chase Claypool. Maybe it's a cool play

884
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: design to James Cooker, to Ray Davis. They have way

885
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: more options that are going to be viable threats inside

886
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: the ten, inside the twenty this.

887
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Speaker 2: Year, we got to take a break. When we return

888
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: reading more answers off of the tweet sheet. What move

889
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: do you think was the best move the Bills made

890
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: this offseason? Give us a call here eight oh three,

891
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: five fifty. We'll be right back on One Bill's Live.

892
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: We're presented by Clydehealth on Buffalo Bills Radio. We're back

893
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: here on one Bills Live and we're discussing what you

894
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: think the best off season move? What that is? What

895
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: was it? Is it? The tight ends is it the

896
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: tight ends getting older, not new tight ends because we

897
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: didn't draft any time it ends. But is it you

898
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: know what we can expect out of these guys in

899
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: their second season and don't kinkaid. Is it the wide

900
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: receiver room which looks very new right now. Is it

901
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman, the offensive lineman. I mean, you could

902
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: pick a position. There's a lot of new players on

903
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: this team, so we want to know what you think

904
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: is the best offseason move that the Bills have made.

905
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Mike in Mississippi on the phone. Mike,

906
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: how are you doing?

907
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm doing good. I just want to let y'all know.

908
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 6: I drive from Tunica to Golf Court on Mondays and

909
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 6: from Gulf Court up to Tunica on Fridays, and this

910
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 6: is all I have on the radio is WGR five.

911
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: Point fifteen of the amazing Thank you.

912
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 6: The drive just flies by because of you guys. Listen.

913
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: I just wanted to bring something up, and I'm going

914
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 6: to go to the tight ends, and that is when

915
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 6: we drafted Ken Kate. We had a tight end that

916
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 6: had almost one hundred catches in the two previous years

917
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 6: missing for our games, and they had sixteen tds. I

918
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 6: think so. I think that when McDermott went for another

919
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 6: tight end, it wasn't to upgrade, it was to compliment.

920
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: And I wanted to get your opinion. Do you think

921
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Speaker 6: we may be seeing something similar to what they had

922
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Speaker 6: in New England when they had Gronk and Hernandez as

923
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 6: primary targets where they were one and two and put

924
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Speaker 6: up big numbers. Do you think we're going to see

925
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: that with the two D case and at tight end.

926
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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Mike, appreciate it. Chris. I'll start

927
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Speaker 2: with you first. Do you believe that we could see

928
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more out of those two this season?

929
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

930
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 4: And I kind of liken it to Dallas Goddard and

931
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: Zach Ertz a few years ago in Philadelphia that Ertz

932
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: was the established veteran, was maybe not someone that was

933
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: going to have an extremely high ceiling anymore. I mean,

934
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Speaker 4: he set the tight end catch record the one season

935
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Speaker 4: before Evan Ingram broke it last year. But he was

936
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Speaker 4: just consistent on a day in and day out basis.

937
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: That's Dawson Knox and then Dallas Goddard was the bigger athlete,

938
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Speaker 4: had more pass catching upside. It feels very similar to me,

939
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Speaker 4: just in terms of the dynamic that I think to

940
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Speaker 4: his point, it was not to just upgrade and to

941
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Speaker 4: kind of toss duston Knox aside. I mean, we saw

942
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Speaker 4: that they signed him to an extension. They believe in

943
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Speaker 4: Dawson Knox. What I like too is if you think

944
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Speaker 4: back to twenty nineteen when they drafted him, he was

945
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Speaker 4: on that famous Ole Miss team where you're like, how

946
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 4: do they not win the national title? They had AJ Brown,

947
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 4: DK Metcalf, and they also had Dawson Knox. He was

948
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: very raw as a pass catcher and he was able

949
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 4: to produce in the red zone, like you're mentioning early

950
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: in his career when he maybe wasn't an amazing separator

951
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: route runner, but in that time early in his career.

952
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: Over the last few seasons, Dawson Knox has become one

953
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 4: of the better, more athletic blockers in the league. So

954
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: that twelve personnel why it's so difficult for defenses to

955
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: defend Ian. We saw Josh Allen, you know, with Ken,

956
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 4: Dorsey and Brady have a passer rating over one hundred

957
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 4: out of twelve personnel with both of those coordinators last season,

958
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: is it going to be a run? Is it going

959
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: to be a pass? Are both tight ends running routes

960
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: is one staying into block. It gives the defenses so

961
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: much to think about when you're in four wide or

962
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: five wide receivers, it's all right, this is going to

963
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 4: be a pass. We don't really have to worry about

964
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Speaker 4: the run. The pass rush is different, the safeties, the

965
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: linebackers played differently. So I think, yes, we will see

966
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Speaker 4: maybe not as much twelve personnel as maybe Ken Dorsey envisioned,

967
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 4: but I think it will be a staple of the

968
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Speaker 4: offense because not a lot of teams have two really

969
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: good and athletic players. You have Kinkaid, who even as

970
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Speaker 4: a rookie, established that rapport with Josh Allen, and certainly

971
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Speaker 4: Dustin Knox has that rapport, you know, having only come

972
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: into the league one year after Josh Allen. So that

973
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: really makes for a difficult mismatch for corners, for safeties,

974
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: for linebackers. When the Bills are in that formation, we

975
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 4: don't see it a lot from other teams because most

976
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 4: teams have one good tight end and there's a huge

977
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Speaker 4: precipitous drop off in terms of their tight end too.

978
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Speaker 4: That's not the case here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: For Dawson too. He was placed on injured reserve last

980
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: year with that wrist injury. He only played in twelve

981
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: games last season. So I don't think we've entirely seen

982
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: what Dawson and Dalton are going to look like together

983
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: on the field yet because we haven't seen a healthy, full,

984
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: healthy season out of both of them together. So I'm

985
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: excited to see what that looks like in year two

986
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: for Dalton Kincaid and what he can do building on

987
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: the offense, building on being Hey, I'm a second year

988
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: player in the NFL. Now I have a better handle

989
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: on things, and then hopefully a healthy season for Dawson

990
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Speaker 2: Knox as well. We've got to take a break, but

991
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: when we return, we're gonna hear from Doug Farrar, who

992
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: works for USA Today as an NFL writer and editor.

993
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 2: He did an awesome piece on Josh Allen. We're going

994
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: to dig into that and more so don't go anywhere.

995
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live. We're present by Clyde Health on

996
00:49:54,280 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

997
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: It's One Bill's Live presented by Calledlida Health.

998
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: Welcome into our number two of One Bill's Live. Matti

999
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: Glab alongside of CBS Sports NFL analyst Chris Drapasso, who

1000
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: is filling in today and Chris and our number two.

1001
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: We are gonna bring somebody on the show who just

1002
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 2: that's a really cool interview with Josh Allen. We're going

1003
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: to dig into all of that and some more. So

1004
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: let's bring on USA Today NFL writer and editor Doug Farrar,

1005
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: who is joining us right now. Doug, thanks for taking

1006
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: the time to be with us.

1007
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 8: Oh, thanks so much. I always appreciate you guys having me.

1008
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 2: Doug, you just wrote a piece about Josh Allen, a

1009
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 2: lengthy piece that covers the past season, this upcoming season,

1010
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: Joe Brady, and some of the new pieces within this offense.

1011
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: I have to ask you first, what was your biggest

1012
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 2: takeaway from getting to talk to Josh.

1013
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, we spent about ten minutes on Zoom a few

1014
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 8: days ago. I think the having talked to him a

1015
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 8: few times before, just how much he's sort of taken

1016
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 8: command of the team. He seemed, you know, with all

1017
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 8: the changes on defense and certainly with his receiver corps.

1018
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 8: I think Khalioshakir is the only guy left on the

1019
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 8: roster as a receiver who kind of passed from Josh

1020
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 8: last year. That's a lot. He just seems really kind

1021
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 8: of in command of the thing, and coming into his

1022
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 8: seventh year, he's ready to take ownership. He's tremendously excited.

1023
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 8: Not that he didn't have ownership before, but you know

1024
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 8: what I mean, he's really excited about working with Joe Brady,

1025
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 8: which manifested itself on the field to a point in

1026
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 8: twenty twenty three. But as you guys certainly know, no

1027
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 8: coach can come in halfway through the season going from

1028
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 8: you know, to OC and put his whole off in. So,

1029
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 8: you know, Josh telling me he's got all these new

1030
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 8: concepts that makes you want to, you know, work on

1031
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 8: my footwork, in my eyes and you know, my arm

1032
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 8: angle and everything. He's just really excited about the way

1033
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 8: this is going to go. So, you know, he just

1034
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 8: he seemed very very up, very happy about the way

1035
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 8: things are are going to go in the season, and

1036
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 8: very much you know, this is he's he's really taken

1037
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 8: ownership of the whole thing again, not that he didn't before,

1038
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 8: but there he seems like a bit of a different

1039
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 8: guy in that regard.

1040
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: My biggest takeaway Doug was the I think a huge

1041
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 4: quote from Josh Allen saying that his previous offense was

1042
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 4: a little bit mundane.

1043
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 3: Do you think that's spot on?

1044
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 4: And kind of how do you view going from the

1045
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 4: Ken Dorsey offense first half of twenty twenty three into

1046
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 4: what will and you mentioned in your article the first

1047
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 4: full year of the true Joe Brady offense in twenty

1048
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 4: twenty four.

1049
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 8: Right, what he said was, it's not the same mundane

1050
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 8: things I've been doing for the last six years, which

1051
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 8: would bring Brian Dabel into it too. It's different stuff.

1052
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 8: My eyes have got to be better, my footwork is

1053
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 8: it has to be better, and ultimately the bald placement

1054
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 8: has got to be better. So it's forcing me to

1055
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 8: be a better quarterback and to learn different things, which

1056
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 8: I'm all about. Well, when you go back to when

1057
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 8: he was selected in twenty eighteen, and I think the

1058
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 8: biggest Josh Allen stan would admit this when he came

1059
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 8: out he was kind of a developmental guy. It wasn't

1060
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 8: all there yet, which you know everybody knows. It's not

1061
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 8: slamming Josh. He's come a long way and good for him,

1062
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 8: but you know, Dabell gave him man beaters and let

1063
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 8: him use his legs and w when team switched his

1064
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,439
Speaker 8: own he went to more quick games, so Dabel brought

1065
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 8: him along. We'll always wonder, you know, a couple of

1066
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 8: more years of the table what it might have been.

1067
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 8: I think with Dorsey, and I kind of mentioned this

1068
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 8: at the time when Dorsey was was let go, that

1069
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 8: it wasn't a bad passing game. But and certainly this

1070
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 8: this came to light when I got to see what

1071
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 8: Brady was doing as the season went along. There maybe

1072
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 8: with Dorsey wasn't a sense of the routes weren't layered

1073
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 8: and nuanced together in the way that Brady had done it.

1074
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 8: Through the end of the season, you know, there were

1075
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 8: more four strongs, there were more crossers, there were more

1076
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 8: mirrored routes with Brady, and I think that gave Josh

1077
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 8: more of a sense of Okay, I can see the

1078
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 8: whole thing in front of me. They actually used less motion,

1079
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 8: They used less twelve personnel, which had a lot to

1080
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 8: do with Bus and Knox having the wrist injury and

1081
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 8: the illness. I think they'll use more twelve with those

1082
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 8: two guys in the season. But I think with Brady.

1083
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 8: You just saw more of a complete, more of a

1084
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 8: modern passing game. And again that's with him only coming

1085
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 8: in halfway through the season, installing what he could with

1086
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 8: limited practice time. So when Josh says that now Brady's

1087
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 8: installing all these new concepts, I'm really excited to see

1088
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 8: what that looks like.

1089
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: I want to cover the quarterback going into his seventh

1090
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: NFL season a little bit more and look at it

1091
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: from a big picture of an NFL perspective. By the

1092
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: time you get into your seventh season, regardless if you're

1093
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: the Bills quarterback or the Dolphins quarterback or the Packers quarterback,

1094
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: you know how the game is played. You have a

1095
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: good feel for everything. You have a good feel for

1096
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 2: understanding defenses. And probably by that time you've been in

1097
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: one to two offenses, at least if you have had

1098
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 2: multiple offensive coordinators. But does year seven and beyond, if

1099
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: you're stuck with the same OC, does it get mundane

1100
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: for most quarterbacks because you already understand the game. You

1101
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: already have a feel for the game. So could it

1102
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: be a good thing that he's getting a new OC

1103
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 2: in his seventh season to push him to learn new

1104
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: things about how the game is played.

1105
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 8: I think that can be the case. I think it

1106
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 8: was Mike Hombern who said after about year ten, no

1107
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 8: matter how good a coach is, the message starts to

1108
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 8: give a little stale. So maybe that's what Josh was

1109
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 8: talking about to a point. I know that I asked

1110
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 8: him for his three favorite plays, and one of the

1111
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 8: plays was the touchdown passed to Dalton Kinkaid against the

1112
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 8: Steelers in the wildcard round where they ran mirrored crossers

1113
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 8: to either side and Kinkaid was right up the you know,

1114
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 8: they were an empty and Kinkaid just ran a vertical

1115
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 8: route with Miles Jack the linebacker, trying to cover him.

1116
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 8: And they had done a lot of tapework with the

1117
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 8: on the Steelers obviously the week before and before the

1118
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 8: headset cut off in Josh's helmet, Brady came down and said, Josh,

1119
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 8: we got exactly the look, and before Brady could finish

1120
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 8: the sentence, Josh says, like, We're like, I know, we

1121
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 8: got it. So that kind of communication, no matter what,

1122
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 8: and that requires a lot of confidence in and regard

1123
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 8: for each other, the coach and the quarterback. So I

1124
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Speaker 8: think even more than the schemes, when you have that

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00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 8: kind of relationship and a quarterback who's that excited about it.

1126
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 8: I think that it magnifies no matter what you're calling,

1127
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 8: it's just going to help the overall thing, because you know,

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00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 8: you can put all the ex's nose on the field,

1129
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 8: but at a certain point, if the quarterback doesn't completely

1130
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 8: believe in them, you know you're only going to get

1131
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 8: so far. So I think you know it, it can

1132
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 8: go both ways. You can get an oc with a

1133
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 8: quarterback later and everything. And we've seen this also where

1134
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 8: the quarterback knows enough to know this isn't right for me,

1135
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 8: and that can be a real problem. So I think

1136
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 8: in Josh's case, he has a guy who he knows

1137
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 8: is trying to advance him in his productivity, in his efficiency.

1138
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 8: You know, he leads, you know, all these categories since

1139
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 8: he came into the league. He also leads league interceptions

1140
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 8: since twenty eighteen. So there is a there is a

1141
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 8: yolo aspect to Josh's play, and I think Brady is

1142
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 8: good at not only he'll encourage that. On one hand,

1143
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 8: because I also asked, Josh, you know, how do you

1144
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 8: balance structure and improvisation, And you don't want to take

1145
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 8: that away from a guy when he's you know, Josh Allen,

1146
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 8: But I think Josh has completely butt into what Brady

1147
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 8: wants to do. And more so than oh they're running

1148
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 8: a bunch of thirteen personnel or oh they're running you

1149
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 8: know more trap or wham run plays. That belief that

1150
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 8: the quarterback has in the system is everything, and that year, one,

1151
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 8: year twenty, it doesn't matter. You have to have that.

1152
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 4: Something else that really stood out to me in this article,

1153
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 4: which you can find on touchdown wire dot usa dot com,

1154
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 4: it was just a great overview of your you know,

1155
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 4: ten minutes zoom that you reference with Josh Allen, which

1156
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: is awesome, was Josh Allen said something that on the

1157
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 4: surface seems to make a lot of sense. That he said,

1158
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 4: you know, situationally, understanding how to play quarterback is very important.

1159
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: And he said, you know, if it's a third and

1160
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 4: short situation and that underneath target is covered, he's probably

1161
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: gonna lean on his legs, which, being Josh Allen, certainly

1162
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: makes sense. It's third and long, say, he likes to

1163
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: kind of tell to throw the ball deep, do you

1164
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 4: think because it's kind of been a grape of mine

1165
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 4: for as good as the Bills offense has been the

1166
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 4: last four or five years, the yards after the catch

1167
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: have not really been there. They have been near the

1168
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 4: bottom of the league and at best like an average

1169
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 4: yards after the catch team when the forty nine Ers,

1170
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 4: the Bengals, the Chiefs certainly have been so good after

1171
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 4: the catch. Do you think that this current Bills team

1172
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: tight ends, running backs, wide receivers, these skill positions around

1173
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: him are better positioned for Josh Allen to maybe trust

1174
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 4: hitting that check down on a third and eight and saying, hey,

1175
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 4: let Curtis Samuel Khalil Shakir, you know, create after the catch.

1176
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Speaker 3: Or do you think that's.

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Speaker 4: Maybe taking away of part of what is the best

1178
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 4: of Josh Allen that is really just foot on the

1179
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 4: gas pedal in those kind of high leverage situations.

1180
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Speaker 8: Well, I think it goes back to the point of

1181
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 8: the layered and nuanced route concepts, which I think with Dorsey,

1182
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 8: and this is not to bash Dorsey, but there were

1183
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 8: more ISO routes. There was more like let Josh be Josh,

1184
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 8: Josh kind of pull it out of the fire and

1185
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 8: you know, do his amazing stuff. I know coaches have

1186
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 8: had issues with Aaron Rodgers, you know who can improvise

1187
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 8: and maybe at his prian Rodgers may have been the

1188
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 8: best pure passer I've ever seen. But you know, you

1189
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 8: have to you have to balance the two things. And

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01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 8: for Josh to say things like with scrambled drills, we've

1191
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 8: done a lot of breakdowns on it for our offense,

1192
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Speaker 8: I think there's been a lot of off season work,

1193
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 8: and I think Brady did a lot of offseason work

1194
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 8: to say, Okay, it's not just we have this athletic

1195
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 8: freak who's six five, two fifties bigger than the linebacker

1196
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 8: who's trying to tackle him, and he can do everything.

1197
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Speaker 8: It's well, let's really take a look at what ever.

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01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 8: We're talking to Bruce arians years ago and when he

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Speaker 8: had Carson Palmer and Drew Stanton in Arizona, he said,

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Speaker 8: you know, I'll give the quarterback my fifteen, but I

1201
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 8: want his fifteen because if he doesn't like what I'm calling,

1202
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna call it. So I think there is

1203
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 8: there's more of a togetherness, there's more of a you know,

1204
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 8: an alignment between coach and quarterback. So yes, I think

1205
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 8: there will be that, but just in an overall sense,

1206
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 8: it's really going to be more about what does Josh

1207
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 8: do best? What does Josh believe in? You know, what

1208
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 8: are his fifteen and we'll go from there.

1209
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: USA Today NFL writer Doug far Our joining us on

1210
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: Oneville's Live right now. Doug, I want to ask you

1211
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 2: a bit about what you just said with Bruce Arian saying, Hey,

1212
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: I want to be able to call the plays that

1213
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback wants me to call. We've heard a lot

1214
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: simple right right exactly, but it's not always true within

1215
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: the NFL, and I think it's not always true still

1216
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: today you hear more and more about, oh, this coach

1217
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 2: wants to be for the players, wants to call things

1218
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: that the players like. And we've heard a lot of

1219
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: that already from offensive players about Joe Brady. Josh Allen

1220
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: has said that Joe Brady himself has said, this is

1221
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's offense. I want to call plays that are

1222
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: gonna fit what players I have in it. I want

1223
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 2: them to eat. We're all gonna eat. It's gonna be

1224
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: an offense that maybe there's not a number umber one guy,

1225
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: but we're going to rely on every single person who's

1226
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: going to line up against the defense. When you hear

1227
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator say that. I know some offensive coordinators

1228
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: can say that and it's a half truth, But how

1229
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: much do you believe that that is true within what

1230
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 2: Buffalo is trying to create in twenty twenty four.

1231
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Speaker 8: I think it's true, Maddy, and I think it resonates

1232
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 8: because Josh is the one saying it's Joe Brady's offense,

1233
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 8: and I'm here to make it better. So when when

1234
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 8: the OC says it's the quarterbacks offense, and the quarterback

1235
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 8: says it's the OC's offense, that's and you're like, Okay,

1236
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 8: they're on the same page. So I don't you know,

1237
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 8: like you said, you hear that a lot, and sometimes

1238
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 8: you go in watch the tape and you go, I

1239
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 8: don't think it's anybody's offense. I don't know what they're

1240
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 8: doing here. And there were elements of that last year,

1241
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 8: especially for the Bills in the first half of the season,

1242
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 8: which is one of the reasons I think it probably

1243
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 8: made the change. I think in this case, everyone believes

1244
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 8: in it. Another thing Josh said about Brady is you

1245
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 8: can tell how much he loves the game and how

1246
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 8: hard he works because he's always in the building and

1247
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 8: those you know, we again, we talk about the x's

1248
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 8: and o's and the schemes and the metrics and all that,

1249
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 8: and that's all cool, But when you establish a buy

1250
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 8: in a culture of belief, that's to me more important

1251
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,919
Speaker 8: than anything because it just it amplifies everything you're trying

1252
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 8: to do. So yes, I think in this case it

1253
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 8: does it. I think it will play out as everyone

1254
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 8: has said, as opposed to over going to sale this stuff,

1255
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 8: then we're going to run this on the field and

1256
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter.

1257
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 4: I have a short and sweet one about twelve personnel

1258
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 4: Joe Brady. We know that last year in the ramp

1259
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 4: up to the twenty twenty three season, Ken Dorsey just

1260
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 4: talked about twelve personnel over and over and over again,

1261
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 4: and like you mentioned, they were never really able to

1262
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 4: establish that. I mean, Josh Allen was very good in

1263
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: twelve personnel, you reference it in your article, but with

1264
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 4: Dawson Knox getting hurt, they couldn't do that. Do you

1265
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 4: think this season, being Joe Brady's offense, do you think

1266
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 4: that he has that same type of buy into twelve

1267
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 4: personnel or you know, from his days in New Orleans

1268
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: with the Saints and certainly at LSU with Justin Jefferson

1269
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 4: and Jamar Chase more wide receiver centric. Do you think

1270
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 4: he'll maybe lean toward you know, there's so many wide

1271
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 4: receivers in this Bill's room Maddie's talking about. You know,

1272
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Speaker 4: there's not going to maybe be a number one, but

1273
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: there's maybe going to be a bunch of number twos.

1274
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 4: How do you see the Bills maybe personnel wise? Are

1275
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: they going to lean toward twelve personnel or maybe eleven

1276
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 4: where there's more wide receivers on the field.

1277
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 8: Well, the twenty and twenty two season, no team ran

1278
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 8: fewer snaps with two or more tight ends. In the Bills,

1279
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 8: it was hilarious, like forty snaps the whole season. I

1280
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 8: think the second least team was over one hundred. So

1281
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 8: then they took Ki Kid with a twenty fifth overall pick.

1282
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 8: They sign Knox that big extension and with Dorsey it

1283
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 8: was a lot of twelve and Josh played well in it.

1284
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 8: The play that Josh referenced to me the touchdown to

1285
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 8: Kinkid against the Steelers that was in twelve personnel, get

1286
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 8: a leave a fifty one yarder against the Patriots which

1287
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 8: was in twelve and both Knox and Kincaid were in

1288
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 8: the bunch left and Kinkaid ran the deep crosser over

1289
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 8: the middle, and Knox ran the little just a release

1290
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 8: route to the flat, and the Patriots were in cover

1291
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 8: zero and just that little thing with kret Sherfield running

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Speaker 8: kind of a fifteen yard up over the numbers. It

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 8: took their man concept and just blew it apart. So again,

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Speaker 8: that is twelve personnel. It is later in nuanced route concepts,

1295
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 8: and it's with both Kinkaid and Knox on the field.

1296
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Speaker 8: And I think especially with so many new receivers. I

1297
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 8: mean again, Kleoshakiro is the only guy who knows Josh

1298
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 8: Allen from before, so they've got to get all those

1299
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 8: guys together. Early in the season, you could see a

1300
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 8: lot of twelve personnel because those are the only guys

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01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 8: Josh knows those targets. So you could certainly see a

1302
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 8: lot more of that early in the season. I mean,

1303
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 8: you dropped one tight end in the first round, you

1304
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 8: give your other tight end a deal over fifty million dollars,

1305
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 8: that is certainly your intent. And Brandon Bean has talked

1306
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 8: about how especially against nickel defenses, which is, as you

1307
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 8: guys know, the new base in the NFL how much

1308
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 8: you can really mess with a nickel or a big

1309
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 8: nickel or a dying defense with two tighten sets. I

1310
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 8: mean the Chiefs and nobody thinks about this, but the

1311
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 8: Chiefs have led the NFL in thirteen personnel in each

1312
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 8: of the last two seasons. We think, oh, air raid,

1313
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 8: they're spreading it out. No, not really. They want their

1314
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 8: tight ends on the field. So I think, especially early

1315
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 8: in the season, as everyone's getting on the same pigel

1316
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 8: on new receivers, I think you can see a lot

1317
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 8: more twelve as long as everyone's healthy.

1318
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Speaker 2: The Bills offenses over the last several seasons, the last

1319
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: three four years have looked different. Under Sean McDermott. We've

1320
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: seen an iteration of this offense where it was smaller

1321
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: wide receivers who were faster, and based on the draft

1322
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: and some of these pickups and free agency, we've seen

1323
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: this offense get a little bit taller and stronger in

1324
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 2: the receivers they're putting on the field. Right now, a

1325
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: lot of people are counting out the Bills just because

1326
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: so many faces that were familiar faces left this building

1327
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: in the offseason. You bring in a lot of new

1328
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 2: players on offense and defense, but sticking to the offense,

1329
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: why should opponents not overlook this team? Why could this

1330
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: offense be just as good, if not maybe better in

1331
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four when a lot of these teams don't

1332
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: have tape on what this group is going to look like?

1333
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 8: Right, it's a good question. I think, well, well, Kean Coleman,

1334
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 8: you have that absolute ball winner at the point of attack,

1335
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 8: and he can you know, you big guy run fast.

1336
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 8: I mean, those are good attributes you have, and he

1337
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 8: certainly is. And Josh told me they're they're force feeding

1338
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 8: him the whole playbook. They want him to be the EXI.

1339
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 8: So there's no question about that. They've made that clear.

1340
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 8: I think again, with one thing that I know Brady

1341
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 8: said in this week's during this week's team participation is

1342
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 8: that he wants to make real that he's calling the

1343
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 8: right things for all the receivers. So he he is

1344
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 8: drilling down and making sure that he understands the attributes.

1345
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 8: You know, well, what's best for curtis Samuel? How can

1346
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 8: I best utilize Chase Claypool and then the next level,

1347
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 8: and I think Brady is really good at this is

1348
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 8: how can I utilize a formation in which it's you know,

1349
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 8: Knox and Samuel and Claypool maybe in you know, a

1350
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 8: bunch left or trips left. What are their best routes?

1351
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 8: How can I mess with this the most? Against cover three?

1352
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 8: You know, what's my quarters beater? Because teams are playing

1353
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 8: so much more quarters, So it's not only getting the

1354
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 8: best routes together for each receiver. And this includes the

1355
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 8: backs as well, because the Bills under Brady went to

1356
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 8: a ton much or for strong receivers either motioned or

1357
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 8: routes go fo receivers to one side of the field,

1358
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 8: and they were really successful with that. So it's not

1359
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 8: just the best stuff for every receiver. I think you

1360
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 8: see a lot more route concepts that are advantageously to

1361
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 8: the receivers. But giving Josh favorable reads and then the

1362
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 8: time and just using his acuity to know where to

1363
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 8: go with the football. I don't think that was there

1364
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 8: as much in the first half of the season. It

1365
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 8: was a little better in the second half, and I

1366
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 8: think you're going to see it more in twenty twenty four.

1367
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 8: So if the offense is better, I think as everyone

1368
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 8: gets on the same page. And again it's rare to

1369
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 8: see one position group grow, you know, this much change

1370
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 8: in one offseason, so it might take a minute, but

1371
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 8: I think over time you could see a situation where

1372
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 8: maybe the Bill's offense looks a little creaky at first

1373
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 8: just because everyone's new, and then it could come together.

1374
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 2: I have a quick follow up to that. You spoke

1375
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 2: about Joe Brady putting in concepts that work for every

1376
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 2: wide receiver, running back, titan that's a part of this group.

1377
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: Do you believe that's a tougher job as an offensive

1378
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: coordinator to really look at what you have and create

1379
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: an offense based on what you have, rather than thinking, Oh,

1380
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: here's the offenses I've ran in the past, here's the

1381
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: teams I've been a part of in the past. We're

1382
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: just gonna implement a bunch of these things and putting

1383
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 2: on the field and try and see if it works.

1384
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: Which one is tougher to do?

1385
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 7: Oh?

1386
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 8: Interesting, Well, I think you're always looking to I mean,

1387
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 8: Brady's not He's not going to change his whole offense

1388
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 8: because they can't. You know, Let's say let's say they

1389
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 8: wanted elite neighbors and they couldn't get him, so they

1390
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 8: got Ken Coleban. Oh, I have to change my whole

1391
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 8: offense because they didn't get elite neighbors. I don't know

1392
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 8: if that's true. I'm not you know, throwing hypotheses hypotheses

1393
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 8: out there. Every offensive coordinator has systems that he would prefer,

1394
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 8: and he's trying to align the players that he can get,

1395
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 8: either in the draft refregency or the ones he already

1396
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 8: has if he's coming in new But I also think

1397
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 8: that in today's NFL you have to be multiple on

1398
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 8: offense because defenses are so much more multiple. We've all

1399
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 8: seen this, and it's certainly with the Bills with player

1400
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 8: player and hide and their experience and Trey White when

1401
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 8: they were all together. A lot of cut switches, a

1402
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 8: lot of different fronts, a lot of overloads and blitzes

1403
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 8: and stunts. You have to be more multiple on offense

1404
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 8: because defenses are counteracting that multiplicity with their own multiplicity.

1405
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 8: So if you're not on the same page with everything,

1406
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 8: it's going to be a tough go. And that that's

1407
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 8: true no matter who you are or who you have

1408
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 8: on the field.

1409
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 4: Last one for me, for as fun as it is

1410
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 4: to talk about offense and Doug, you you've done a

1411
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 4: great job kind of giving us an overview of what

1412
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: this Bill's offense might look like that as so many

1413
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: new pieces switching sides to the defensive side of the ball.

1414
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 4: Yesterday we talked about who is the most and we

1415
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 4: kind of posed a question out there on Twitter, gave

1416
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 4: our own thoughts on the most underappreciated or more or

1417
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 4: most underrated player around the Bills. You recently wrote about

1418
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 4: that and picked for Sewell Douglas. Can you just kind

1419
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 4: of talk about what you've seen on film, the four

1420
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 4: interceptions last year, and just his fit in this more

1421
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 4: zone heavy based defense here in Buffalo.

1422
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was hard not to talk about one of

1423
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 8: the linebackers, but and I'm going to restue douglas fan

1424
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 8: for a long time. In Green Bay. Last season, before

1425
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 8: the trade, he allowed twenty three catches on thirty four

1426
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 8: targets for two hundred and seventy four yards, one hundred

1427
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 8: and two yards after the catch, three touchdowns, one interception,

1428
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 8: and an opponent passed rating of one. On nine point two

1429
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 8: with the Bills, twenty three catches on forty one targets

1430
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 8: for two hundred and sixty four yards seventy seven yards

1431
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 8: after the catch, one touchdown, four interceptions, and an opponent

1432
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 8: passer rating at forty four point two WOW, which I

1433
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 8: believe was fourth best for any cornerback taking at least

1434
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 8: fifty percent of his team snaps. So with Douglas, it

1435
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 8: was okay, I found the right home. These guys were

1436
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 8: using me the way I should be used. I think

1437
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 8: we all saw with Green Bay's defense last year, and

1438
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 8: it's why they made their own change that really wasn't

1439
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 8: the case. So, you know, I've always liked Douglas as

1440
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 8: a He's a due all. He can play zone, you

1441
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 8: can play man, he can play off. He can He's

1442
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 8: a decent presser, probably a better off guy. But I

1443
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 8: think he really you know, and we've all seen the

1444
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 8: transitions in the secondary in the offseason. He really helped

1445
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 8: I think more than probably not more than you guys

1446
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 8: realized because you're talking about the Bill all the time,

1447
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 8: but more than most people naturally might have realized how

1448
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 8: much he helped that defense, especially in the push down

1449
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 8: the stretch. I just think he's a really and you know,

1450
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 8: every player is a system player. You know, there are

1451
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 8: very few who are scheme transcendent. But when Russell Douglas

1452
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 8: got the Buffalo Boy, you could just see it right

1453
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 8: away that this guy was aligned really well to what

1454
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 8: Sean McDermott and his staff wants to do on that

1455
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 8: side of the ball.

1456
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: And the Bills needed Russeull Douglas so much at that

1457
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: point when they traded for him, it was a hey,

1458
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: you got to come in here and you got to work,

1459
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 2: and he did exactly that, and we're excited to see

1460
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 2: what he can do this season as well. Doug, thank

1461
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us on One Bill's Live.

1462
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 2: Appreciate the time.

1463
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 8: Thanks Doug, my pleasure, Thank you so much.

1464
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: All Right, that was Doug Farar explaining quite a bit

1465
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: in detail when it came to talking to Josh Allen

1466
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: his expectations for the offense and for Joe Brady. I

1467
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 2: thought it was a really nice article to read and

1468
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: had a lot of great information there from.

1469
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean for someone in the media field to

1470
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 4: be able to sit down and zoom with Josh Allen

1471
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 4: for ten minutes talk xes and o's, and then like

1472
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 4: we've kind of all been chomping at the bit for

1473
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: it to kind of spin it forward and get some

1474
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 4: maybe some early details of sneak peek at what the

1475
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 4: Joe Brady offense might look like, I think that's really

1476
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 4: cool to get that in May.

1477
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the fact that he called out you know,

1478
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 2: I'm excited for a new offense. I'm excited to learn

1479
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: some new things. Not too much of a shot at

1480
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 2: the people before, but just the type of outlook that

1481
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: he has of playing the quarterback position, wanting to continue

1482
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 2: to add different elements to his game. I think says

1483
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: a lot about who Josh Allen is as a player

1484
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: and as a quarterback, always wanting to get better and

1485
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: trying to learn more about the game. We'll see what

1486
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: it looks like in terms of statistics when we start

1487
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: playing here in September.

1488
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 4: And I think, too, this is where I've kind of

1489
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 4: been all off season. For as good as the Bills

1490
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 4: have been the last five or six years, it wasn't

1491
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 4: good enough. I think they ran it back after getting

1492
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 4: to the AFC title game, and after thirteen seconds they

1493
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 4: ran it back again, same coaching staff, almost the exact

1494
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 4: same roster. And even though Joe Brady did I think

1495
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 4: a very good job for being thrown into the fire

1496
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 4: midway portion of the season with the Bills, you know,

1497
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 4: right there around five hundred, not in a playoff spot,

1498
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 4: not certainly at the top of the AFC. East did

1499
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 4: a great job maximizing the talent that he had, but

1500
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 4: a lot of those pieces, Gabe Davis gets hurt down

1501
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 4: the stretch, has a couple of goose eggs to fon. Diggs,

1502
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 4: comes up short in some key moments and just was

1503
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 4: not the elite level producer that he was even in

1504
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 4: the first half of twenty twenty three, that it was

1505
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 4: maybe time for maybe not just a new receiver room,

1506
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 4: but new set of eyes on the offense as a

1507
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 4: whole in Joe Brady and a quarterbacks coach in Ronald Curry.

1508
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 4: It was probably time for just some new pieces on

1509
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 4: the sidelines as well. So that's really interesting and to me,

1510
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 4: very encouraging moving forward for this Bills team that is

1511
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 4: trying to go from being great to being Super Bowl champions,

1512
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 4: And maybe that's what they needed, just some fresh blood

1513
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 4: on the roster and the side.

1514
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes all you need is a little bit of

1515
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: shake up to get where you really want to go.

1516
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: All right, When we return, we're gonna dip back into

1517
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 2: the tweetsheet answering, reading off some of your answers about

1518
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: our Twitter topic. What has been the best off season

1519
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 2: move by the Bills. You can also give us a

1520
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 2: call here at a three oh five fifty. We'll be

1521
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: answering some calls when we return back on One Bill's Live.

1522
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 2: We're presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

1523
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: we're back here on One Bill's Live. Who what has

1524
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 2: been the best off season move by the Bills? Who

1525
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: has it been? Is there a player on your list

1526
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: where you're saying, Hey, this guy is gonna make such

1527
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: a big difference in twenty twenty four. Give us a call,

1528
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 2: let us know who you believe it is. At aight

1529
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty, we've got a few people

1530
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: hanging on the phone. We're gonna go over to Rick

1531
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: from Arizona, who joins us on the show. Hey, Rick,

1532
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: it's Richie.

1533
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 7: But that's okay, man. I've waited longer on the phone,

1534
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 7: but I think it's been for Direct TV to correct

1535
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 7: some imperfections in my reception. But it was worth it.

1536
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 7: How's everybody today?

1537
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: We're doing good. We're doing good. Do you have a

1538
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: question for us or you want to weigh in on

1539
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 2: the twin topic?

1540
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 7: The young gentleman had answered the phone is a gracious person.

1541
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 7: And I've always said, in any business, a lifeline between

1542
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 7: you and your your customers is a person on the phone.

1543
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 7: And he did a great job. Anyway. I was born

1544
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 7: in Patavia, so I've got all I know all the

1545
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 7: back roads up there, and I've been out here in

1546
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 7: Arizona for twenty eight years. But when Chris said this

1547
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 7: morning about Aaron Rodgers, that he echoed everything I'd been thinking.

1548
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 7: I don't this is a personal opinion. Now, I don't

1549
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:57,200
Speaker 7: think Aaron Rodgers is going to last if he even

1550
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 7: makes a couple of games. I mean, he took three

1551
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 7: or four app and he was out and when and

1552
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 7: that's the first indication that you guys made me aware

1553
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 7: of that he's having the trouble, like with his foot there.

1554
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 7: Yet I don't he personally and nothing. He looks old,

1555
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 7: and I don't think he's going to be very mobile,

1556
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 7: and frankly, I don't think he's going to I agree

1557
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 7: totally with Chris. I've been I've been trying to call

1558
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 7: for a long time. But Chris, when he mentioned this today,

1559
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 7: I thought, boy, he was right in my wheelhouse. Because

1560
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 7: I feel that way. If I think if they're counting

1561
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 7: on him to carry the mail for the New York

1562
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 7: Jets this year. I think they're in trouble. But anyway,

1563
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,879
Speaker 7: you guys do a great job. And commend that gentleman

1564
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 7: that took my call. And like I said, I know

1565
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 7: all the back rows from Buffalo to rot. I've been

1566
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 7: used to ray horses Buffalo race away in the Pavia

1567
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 7: Downs and owned them and so on. But you guys

1568
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 7: are doing a great You discussed football the way it

1569
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 7: should be discussed, not like ESPN and all of it is.

1570
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 7: He's thinking. You stick right to the information. And I'm

1571
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 7: grateful and thank you so much.

1572
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: Have a great day, Thanks so much for the call,

1573
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 2: appreciate it. And listening to the show.

1574
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 4: National Show, we had Mississippi. We were getting the geography

1575
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 4: of Mississippi in the last segment, now Arizona. So this

1576
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 4: is not just like Western New York people listening. We

1577
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 4: got your country, multiple time zones for one Bill's lives.

1578
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: Pretty awesome, Pretty awesome, huh uh. Talking about Aaron Rodgers

1579
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: and if we think he's gonna make it an entire

1580
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 2: NFL season, I want to bring it a step further.

1581
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 2: Let's say he doesn't make an entire NFL season. Is

1582
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: he retiring next year?

1583
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 3: I can't.

1584
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it's so hard to get inside the mind

1585
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 4: of Aaron Rodgers that it doesn't seem like the type

1586
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,600
Speaker 4: of retirement he would have envisioned in his head to

1587
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 4: have back to back seasons not being able to finish

1588
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 4: the season for his illustrious of a first ballot Hall

1589
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 4: of Fame career as he's had. But at that point,

1590
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 4: to come back to back seasons getting injured, there will

1591
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 4: almost assuredly be a new head coach, a new GM,

1592
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 4: a bunch of new different pieces in New York. It

1593
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 4: wouldn't shock me if he kind of goes into the

1594
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: more health conscious or political realm.

1595
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 3: If that happens again with him this.

1596
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: Season with the Jets, yeah, it would be really hard.

1597
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: I mean, kudos to him for coming off of this

1598
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: Achilles injury and going through with this NFL season. I

1599
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 2: mean a lot of us talked about after he came

1600
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: off the field and we figured out what it was,

1601
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 2: is he going to come back? Is this it for

1602
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers? And at the age that he's at, with

1603
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: how long he's played the position in the NFL, you

1604
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: can hang up the cleetson be fine. He's had a

1605
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 2: great career and for him to say, you know what, No,

1606
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna train, We're gonna get better. I'm

1607
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: gonna come back, and I want to take this team

1608
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. I want to be the quarterback of

1609
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: a team that has some really, really great pieces. You

1610
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 2: got to commend him for doing that.

1611
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.

1612
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 4: And to your question too, I caught recently during I

1613
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 4: think it was maybe after Jets Ota, that Aaron was

1614
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 4: very candid and said, you know, I get it that

1615
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 4: if we don't do it this year. He didn't say

1616
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 4: what it was, but maybe get to the playoffs, you know,

1617
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 4: be above five hundred, win the game in the playoffs.

1618
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 4: He's like, a lot of us are not going to

1619
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 4: be here next year. So to me, I don't think

1620
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 4: that was a direct indication that he's like, Hey, if

1621
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 4: I don't do it this year, I'm going to retire.

1622
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 4: But he knows, and I think it's obvious that the

1623
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 4: Jets are all in and a lot of that hinges

1624
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,719
Speaker 4: on him and his health.

1625
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 2: This season, we've got another caller, Mark from Orchard Park

1626
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 2: joins us on the show. Mark, how are you doing?

1627
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm fighting? How are used today.

1628
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 2: Good, We're doing good? What do you have for us?

1629
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 9: Well, you know I called yesterday. I sus the thing

1630
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 9: in with aj Epanessa. But what I'm calling about, you know,

1631
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 9: yous are talking about Aaron Rodgers. Yep, probably Hall of

1632
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 9: Fame quarterback, no doubt about it. But who cares about that.

1633
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 9: We're talking about Buffalo Bills. And I think what they

1634
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 9: are doing management wise is they're setting it up. Yes,

1635
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,679
Speaker 9: we love Stefan dis he did so great for us

1636
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 9: for you know, four years in a row. But the

1637
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 9: offense is gonna change. And what I was listening to

1638
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 9: what Chris said, and it made sense to me. They're

1639
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 9: going to spread the things out. How this is gonna work.

1640
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:50,799
Speaker 9: It's gonna be Josh Allen's game. He finally is twenty

1641
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 9: eight years old. He's in probably the top echelon of

1642
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 9: where he's gonna be for the next two years. They

1643
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 9: have to have those receivers and he's gonna spread the ball.

1644
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 9: The offense is gonna totally change. I see this offense going,

1645
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 9: you know, way back to when Mouse used to run

1646
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 9: it for Jim Kelly and the Buffalo Bills. So I'm

1647
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:17,759
Speaker 9: gonna let you go with.

1648
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: That, all right, thank you so much for the call, Mark,

1649
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: And yeah, the wide receiver room. The offense is definitely

1650
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: going to change, but I've been saying this that I

1651
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: don't think that means it's a bad thing, and I

1652
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: think that was what Mark was getting at too, is

1653
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: this iteration of the Bills offense could be just what

1654
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 2: this team needs to get over the hump. You never

1655
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 2: know unless you try. You never know what something is

1656
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: gonna be unless you give it a try, and and

1657
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work, then you've gotta Then you gotta,

1658
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: you gotta pivot, you gotta do something different, and that's

1659
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: what the Bills are doing right now. Stefan Diggs was

1660
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 2: incredible for this team when he was here, and Gabe

1661
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: Davis gave us some really great games. But hey, if

1662
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: you try and you're like, we might need to pivot

1663
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: here for several different reasons. Maybe it's a salary cap,

1664
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 2: maybe it's what's upcoming in the draft class, Maybe it's

1665
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 2: it's a new offensive coordinator. There's several different reasons why

1666
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: people make different decisions to decide to move on or

1667
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: decide to try something new, and the Bills are doing

1668
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: that right now. And We don't know exactly what it's

1669
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 2: gonna look like because we haven't seen it yet. We

1670
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: haven't seen Week one come yet, but who knows. I'm

1671
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: excited because it is something different and what we have

1672
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: had in the past with this offense. I don't want

1673
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: to discount it at all because it's worked wonders for

1674
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. It's worked wonders for getting this team to

1675
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 2: playoff appearance after playoff appearance. But maybe a couple switches

1676
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: here and there could be the determining factor into, you know,

1677
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: getting to what the players have called the promised Land,

1678
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: getting to the Super Bowl. You never know unless you try,

1679
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 2: and the Bills are doing that right now.

1680
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what the Bills are after last season

1681
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 4: in the Chiefs during the regular season had seven different

1682
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 4: leading receivers in a game. The Packers had nine different

1683
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 4: receivers lead the team in receiving in a given game.

1684
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 4: The Bills only had five different guys and it was

1685
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 4: mostly Stefan Diggs. So not that the Chiefs and the

1686
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 4: Packers you necessarily have to copy them, but the Chiefs

1687
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 4: have won back to back Super Bowls. The Green Bay

1688
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 4: Packers are not paying a star receiver they traded DeVante

1689
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 4: Adams when everyone thought, what the heck are you doing?

1690
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 4: This guy's elite and look where they are now. They're

1691
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 4: way ahead of the Las Vegas Raiders in terms of

1692
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 4: their team building process. They were a few plays, just

1693
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 4: like the Bills were away from reaching their respective conference

1694
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 4: title game. So I think being closer to having seven

1695
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 4: to ten different receivers leading in a specific game where

1696
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 4: one game it's Shakir, the next game it's Ray Davis

1697
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 4: out of the blue, then it's Dawson Knox, then it's

1698
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 4: you know, Curtis Samuel. I think that's what the Bills

1699
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 4: ultimately want to go for after getting so much production

1700
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 4: out of Stefan Diggs, but then reaching that point in

1701
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 4: the midway point of last season where it's, oh, Digs

1702
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 4: doesn't go off, what happens to our offense? And I

1703
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 4: think that's really where the attack screeched to a halt

1704
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 4: that led to Ken Dorsey's firing.

1705
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: And you have to you were paying a guy like

1706
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs, which means that you can't pay everybody else.

1707
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to have elite wide receivers on your roster

1708
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 2: and have multiple of them. So maybe having several guys

1709
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: who you aren't paying twenty five million dollars is going

1710
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: to help in terms of we can deploy different people

1711
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 2: depending on what teams we're playing, different defenses. There's gonna

1712
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 2: be some holes that you can exploit with a tight end,

1713
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,959
Speaker 2: or with a running back, or with a Curtis Samuel,

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Speaker 2: a gadget guy like him, that maybe this is the

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01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 2: better option to go with. Again, we don't know what

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01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna look like, but these are the possibilities out

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Speaker 2: there for this team. Right now, we're gonna take a break,

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01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: but when we return, we're gonna wrap up the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet and close things up here on One Bill's Live,

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01:26:56,479 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: or presented by Clyde Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,919
Speaker 2: we're back here on a One Bill's Live. Let's finally

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01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 2: get over to the tweet sheet. It's presented by Corgan

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01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills,

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01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: and we'll go first with Mafia member Pod. So far,

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01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: I think it's drafting Keon Coleman, getting rid of digs

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: and making trades and making the trades they did to

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01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 2: get him. It could turn out to be a great

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01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 2: move for the franchise for years to come. Plus, his

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01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 2: vibes are immaculate. I can't wait to see what Keon

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01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 2: Coleman becomes in a Buffalo Bill's uniform because while his

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: vibes are immaculate and we love the person that he is,

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01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: when he gets on the field, he is serious. He

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: is a worker. I've watched him on the sidelines, I've

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01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: watched him in drills, and this is somebody who's who's

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01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 2: talking to us, talking to other wide receivers. You can

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01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: see he's trying to learn from the vets on this roster,

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01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: and when he puts his helmet on, this dude is

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01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: all about ball. It's not about joking around out there.

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01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: It's about making sure he understands how to play the

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01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: position at an NFL level. And I love that because

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01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 2: he can balance both things for sure.

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Speaker 4: And what I love is that he doesn't need to

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01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 4: be a ninety five catch fourteen hundred yard wide receiver

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01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 4: as a rookie. Dalonkin, Cage, Shakir Samuel, We've talked about

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01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 4: him a lot. It will help him just acclimate doesn't

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01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,160
Speaker 4: need to be hit the ground running type of player

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01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 4: instantly in Buffalo.

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01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: How about this one from Seth. He says, getting younger

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01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Ray Davis and Cole Bishop in the draft, especially Davis

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01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 2: will be an excellent compliment to Jimbo and Brady's scheme,

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01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 2: eventually replacing Cook when he prices out, and I think

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01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Bishop maybe a star immediately. We could see him used

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01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: as a rover, making plays all over the field. Why

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01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: did you like those two editions?

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01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Cole Bishop when you watch him on film,

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01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 4: he did everything at Utah. He was constantly aligning his teammates.

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01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 4: He kind of felt like a bigger, faster version of

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01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 4: Jordan Poyer. And for as amazing as Jordan Poyer was,

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01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 4: I think he even has a decent candacy to eventually

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01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 4: be a Bill's Wall of Famer, Cole Bishop is just

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01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 4: the younger, faster version. And so to Seth's point there,

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01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 4: I think it was probably time with him, with Mitch Morres,

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 4: Trey White, even Stefan Diggs to just get younger, infusome

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01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 4: youth into this roster.

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: Here's one more from Connor. The addition to the wide

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01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: receiver room, they have put together a room that looks

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01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: like an NBA team. Samuel Jaquira, the guards, Coleman and

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01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: mvs are the forwards. Holland's shorter and shavers are the centers.

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01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: A great combo size and ability go Bills. Hey, yeah,

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01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: you could look at as at it as an NBA roster.

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01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: You do have a lot of size now in that

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Speaker 2: wide receiver position.

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Speaker 4: And that's not really something that the Bills had. They

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01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,440
Speaker 4: had a bunch of smaller separators. Now you have more diversity,

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01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 4: like I said earlier, for Josh Allen to be able

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01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 4: to look at different types of wide receivers once he's

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01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 4: you know, in the pocket or outside of the pocket.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do us here for one.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live. Thanks Chris for pointing in. Uh, Steve Tasker

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01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: is gonna be back tomorrow. Guys, have a good rest

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Speaker 2: of your day.

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