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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Battleground Podcast. You'll please for all things

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Speaker 1: resting and exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers.

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Speaker 2: Podcast stop it, what's up you guys? It is Battle

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Speaker 2: from one oh five nine in the Rock, Nashville's Classic

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Speaker 2: Rock and Iheartrado's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast, and

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Speaker 2: we are super excited coming up here Friday night SmackDown

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Speaker 2: Live from the Bridge Don Arena, October fourth, and on

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Speaker 2: the show today, I really wanted to do this, but

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Speaker 2: I was like, he's done this so many times a day.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we got triple H, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not doing it. We got Tamasa Champa on the show

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Speaker 2: with us, Sir, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm fantastic And you can go ahead with your triple

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Speaker 1: H all you want. I do get it all the time,

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Speaker 1: even prior to our Truth, I got it all.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been ten years worth. Now.

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask, like, because we've had Truth on before,

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Speaker 2: you're doing those segments with him on live TV? How

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Speaker 2: hard is it to not like just start busting out

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Speaker 2: laughing when he started doing those things.

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Speaker 1: So the cool part with Truth is that he added

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Speaker 1: libs almost everything he does, and which is not the

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Speaker 1: case for everybody. You know, Like obviously you try to

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Speaker 1: roughly stay to a script or whatnot. But even when

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Speaker 1: you're kind of like brainstorming or just you know, going

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Speaker 1: back and forth and oh, we could do this or that,

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Speaker 1: I feel like he like knows what he's gonna do

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Speaker 1: or say, but.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm gonna hold this one. I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to tell you until the camera's on

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Speaker 1: and the lights on, so he does.

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Speaker 3: That's this that he tries to crack.

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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm pretty decent at putting myself in a whole

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Speaker 1: different place when the camera's on and it's I think

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Speaker 1: I'm very hard to uh, and I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he got me.

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Speaker 1: Ever, if he did it, it would somebody would have

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Speaker 1: to tell me or show me.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he's he's been.

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Speaker 1: He's so funny and he's such a good ad liber

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Speaker 1: And that's the hardest part is when someone.

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Speaker 3: Can just do it off the cuff like he can.

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Speaker 1: That's years and years of it though he's been at

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Speaker 1: it for like what twenty something years now. He's so

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Speaker 1: darn good, he's so entertaining, so funny, such a cool

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Speaker 1: dude two backstage, like just one of the best.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and uh we we talk about the best,

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Speaker 2: and I would think on this show one of the

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Speaker 2: best tag teams in WW. Of course it's got to

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Speaker 2: be d I Y when you think about tag teams,

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Speaker 2: one of the most beloved tag teams in NXT history.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about the d Y from NXT

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Speaker 2: compared to this main roster d I Y.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a year ago and now is different answers, Right,

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Speaker 1: I think we're I think we're finally in our groove.

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Speaker 1: I think it took us a bit, though, and we

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Speaker 1: expected it to be honest, because what the DIY was

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Speaker 1: in NXT was very organic, very natural, very created by

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Speaker 1: the crowd and the NXT audience, and it was just

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Speaker 1: so easy to overlap truth and creative. Two kids, independent

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Speaker 1: wrestlers weren't signed to a contract, get these opportunities. Crowd

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Speaker 1: brings us back, brings us back, brings us back, It

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Speaker 1: becomes its own thing. May roster. Now you're looking like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well fast forward eight years and they're not just ending

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Speaker 1: kids anymore. So we couldn't go back to the same like, hey,

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Speaker 1: well this worked the first time, it's going to work

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Speaker 1: the second time. In reality, we had fought each other

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Speaker 1: how do they blend and how does that work? And

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Speaker 1: I honestly think we just just hit our stride in

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Speaker 1: the last few months kind of on the outskirts after WrestleMania,

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Speaker 1: end of our time on Raw, coming into SmackDown. But

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Speaker 1: now I'm I'm really liking what we're doing. Like we

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Speaker 1: we're really in our pocket again of I can be me,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we're we're in that groove now in ring

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Speaker 1: We've we've been in it, but character wise, we're finally right.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned character and the evolution of you has

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Speaker 2: wrestler to the black cart to where you are now

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Speaker 2: has been absolutely incredible to watch. How much of your

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's hard to overlap everything, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the character has the same value.

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Speaker 1: I guess they do deep into that, but to some

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Speaker 1: extent and wrestling, it's like you just are who you are.

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Speaker 1: You know, like the way you look, your voice, the

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Speaker 1: into the character. Like you can't act a certain way

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Speaker 1: with a microphone and then a different way when you're rerestling,

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Speaker 1: and then the two don't coincide. So it's when you're

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Speaker 1: doing it. I've been doing it. I'm coming up on

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Speaker 1: version I believe you'll get of me as a human

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Speaker 1: being as a wrestling persona. The difference always is when

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Speaker 1: I turn heel because I prefer being a heel, uh

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Speaker 1: and I find a lot of pleasure and like I

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Speaker 1: think in everything right, Like in your real life, you

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Speaker 1: get those friends of yours, they might have started ticks

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Speaker 1: I love picking up on those and then putting them

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Speaker 1: and that. But even that, that's part of me as

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Speaker 1: a person. It's it's I'm doing the things I don't like. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, putting that forth. So it's it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely for sure.

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Speaker 2: And it's it's fun to see, like you said, how

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Speaker 2: you that I am a hill fan of Tomaso. I

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Speaker 2: the baby face tomas which makes me perfect sense. Mary

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Speaker 2: House divided in our house when it comes to less.

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Speaker 2: You know what's been fun to watch and you've had

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Speaker 2: What do you think is the biggest differences between those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm guessing, and this is just a guest. I

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Speaker 3: Who he is.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna give you this same Trick Williams that

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Speaker 1: and put you in this position, and that's that's very

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Speaker 3: You know. So that was like, all right, how do

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Speaker 1: And and how do I how do I do this

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Speaker 1: and stay true to myself? And like that's where it

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see less of that now. I

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Speaker 1: think now there's a lot more. Obviously Sean's running creative.

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a way smoother transition for people going forward, which.

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Speaker 2: Is awesome, yeah for sure. And of course WWE is

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Speaker 2: just on fire right now. You've got ww rall moving

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Speaker 2: on some channel. Walk us through when you guys got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, you don't hear a ton internally, Like it's

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Speaker 1: you hear rumblings, but you hear the same rumblings that

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Speaker 3: Here's who follows the internet.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know it was official until I saw a

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Speaker 1: I heard Jesse Vandora was coming back for it, which

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Speaker 1: in an XT. He's a true fan of the business, right,

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Speaker 1: so he takes things that he's like, well, I remember

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Speaker 1: this as a performer. Let's bring it back King of

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Speaker 1: of the Ring, all matches one night, but sat In

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Speaker 1: at bringing back things. Helena Cell's coming back, you know,

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Speaker 1: war games he brought back. Like it's awesome when he

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Speaker 1: Like I just I hope I can just continue and

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Speaker 1: can continue to contribute to different events like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And you mentioned all the elements that

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Speaker 2: and all this other stuff. So I've seen everything change,

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Speaker 2: and it's really cool to see the little elements changing,

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Speaker 1: Like it's exciting to see tag teams getting that light

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Speaker 3: Crowd you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Like, they're just such a Even when we just did

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Speaker 1: Like I welcome that. That elevates your game, it forces

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna put that out in the universe, and

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Speaker 1: Already have five teams in nine for that ladder match.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that that's what you do, right. You

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Speaker 2: wrap this up here shortly. We're talking about ww SmackDown

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Speaker 2: returning to Nashville Bridge don Arena October fourth. You can

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Speaker 2: still grab tickets ticketmaster dot com. But at the end

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Speaker 2: our guests and we turn to our computer analyst, our

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Speaker 2: It's usually off the wall, it's usually random, and today

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Speaker 2: if you had to choose a tag team partner for

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Speaker 2: Who are you picking to help you out in that apocalypse?

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Speaker 3: I'm going solo with my broken crutch. Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you said Johnny Gargana with some sort of

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Speaker 3: But a bunny suit, I'm out. Man. I'll take my crutch,

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Speaker 3: you'll take the crutch.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it well, Tomaso. I really

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Speaker 2: do appreciate you spending some time here with us today.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to seeing you in Nashville on October fourth.

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Speaker 2: And before we let you go, is there anything you

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Speaker 1: Ww's the machine, right, they do all the promoter and

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Speaker 1: they do it better than anybody else. We're excited for Nashville.

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Speaker 1: One of the last times was there was Summer Slam weekend.

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Speaker 3: It was insane. We spent the whole week out there.

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Speaker 3: Like I love the area, I love the crowd out there.

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Speaker 1: Funny that you even say tickets are so available, because

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Speaker 1: we costly have selling everything out, so if they're available,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, we're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: Man, I have no idea what I'll be doing that night,

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