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Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep saying that Happy Hour
Speaker 1: drinks as motherfucker happy hour makes some Now, when we
Speaker 1: started this show, we said we wanted to do legends only.
Speaker 1: So this brother that's standing in front of me, for me,
Speaker 1: is the best producer of all times, all times. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. This is our Quincy Jones. I see him
Speaker 1: see music. I've seen him come into a session and
Speaker 1: just say yo and just change it and just this
Speaker 1: session become turquoise or purple and it just changed. The
Speaker 1: man has. He's a producer. There's people that make beats
Speaker 1: and there's people that produce. This is the producers producer.
Speaker 1: Then he's verged on into being an artist and he
Speaker 1: conquered dad and he he can work from anybody to
Speaker 1: an r A to Madonna and make it make The
Speaker 1: man is like Jesus. He walks on water and I
Speaker 1: don't see the pillow cases gone. In case you don't
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the incredible,
Speaker 1: the impeccable for brown. Motherfucking Now, I purposely didn't look
Speaker 1: at you when I was saying that, because I know
Speaker 1: how humble you are. You know, I know if for
Speaker 1: twenty years. I know how humble you are. But you
Speaker 1: are to certain people, fucking to certain people you are
Speaker 1: to me, I want the best producer of all time.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I've worked with everyone. This is me,
Speaker 1: me and my career. Um, you're you're the best producer
Speaker 1: I've ever worked with. Well, first of all, let me
Speaker 1: just say that I am. I'm you guys can hear me? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wearing my mask because I got nineteen kids
Speaker 1: and my parents are approaching seventies. So you know, we
Speaker 1: all tested it, but I'm just my wife testing everybody say,
Speaker 1: maybe it's like, let's do it. That's how I poured
Speaker 1: you off. For us, we still got to do it.
Speaker 1: Back to pouring you off. But being that you're not
Speaker 1: going to drink a spade are you're not gonna drink it?
Speaker 1: Because you know jay Z personally acts, would you get
Speaker 1: you high and some space? So if you're not keep
Speaker 1: picking with your bottle, actually drink why not the penguin?
Speaker 1: I already know what got damn I already knew what
Speaker 1: good damn it. But okay, so I wanted to say
Speaker 1: first and foremost, um uh, congratulations on you know, the
Speaker 1: continuation of your career. Um. And when I say continuation,
Speaker 1: I mean we're all pluralist. And somehow, when you're in
Speaker 1: the music industry, they convince you to only focus on
Speaker 1: one thing because they feel like, you know, they only
Speaker 1: want you to pay attention to their interest. And eventually,
Speaker 1: you know, the the the the the people in senior
Speaker 1: leadership positions of these companies recognize that these other potential
Speaker 1: revenue streams for these artists could also be you know,
Speaker 1: contributors to the marketing to their partnership. Um, but you
Speaker 1: saw this early, you were on this early. I remember
Speaker 1: when you were talking to me about it, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm thinking about going into this thing,
Speaker 1: Like I got this idea, I got this concept always
Speaker 1: have a camera. I didn't know why you always have
Speaker 1: a camera. My point is you were one of the
Speaker 1: first to do that, and and and you stayed focused
Speaker 1: until you realize exactly how you could, like you know,
Speaker 1: grow the audience and monetize it. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a that's beautiful. And I want to also say that
Speaker 1: I am grateful that you would even you know that
Speaker 1: I'm you even want to have me on more because
Speaker 1: I think you guys, you guys talk about things that
Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, you bring interesting guests
Speaker 1: on here, who really really say things that sometimes shock people,
Speaker 1: sometimes enlightened people. And I feel like, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I've always been like that about myself, Like I don't
Speaker 1: really find myself interesting. I'm always interested in the people
Speaker 1: I can collaborate with. So I've always felt like I
Speaker 1: would always be like a boring interview. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: thank you beginning than in the beginning, that's when I
Speaker 1: googled you, which you know your person. I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to google, but I wanted to do my research thoroughly.
Speaker 1: So it said early nineties. Now, when they say early nineties,
Speaker 1: what do they mean? Like? What was what? Were you
Speaker 1: and Chad hooked up in school? Correct? Yeah? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were in high school. Um, started making music then. Um
Speaker 1: we met when we were like twelve, started making music
Speaker 1: when we're like fifteen sixteen. Um, we got discovered when
Speaker 1: we were in high school. And so once we got
Speaker 1: out of high school, Um, you know, we went straight
Speaker 1: in with Teddy and uh people. Yeah, Teddy Riley, you
Speaker 1: know he did you know the Dangerous album. He did
Speaker 1: a lot of songs on a Dangerous album with Michael.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's Teddy is a legend. Um it takes two.
Speaker 1: I mean the show, Yeah, the show with Dougie Fresh
Speaker 1: rig like he's yeah, yeah, yeah, guy Black Street, He's
Speaker 1: I could just keep going on with this guy. The
Speaker 1: guy did Johnny Kimps just got paid. Or you want
Speaker 1: whatever you want, it's whatever you we live in your world. Brother,
Speaker 1: you want some Swan Swan tequila? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with the sense sah,
Speaker 1: we don't know how to open that, but we'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. Okay, So I'm gonna go with the say
Speaker 1: so when they say early nineties, Our first thing that
Speaker 1: we ever did was Tonights Tonight for Black Street. Whoa
Speaker 1: and then um and that was That was written by
Speaker 1: Tammy Lucas, who was on that. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: She's the reason why Teddy paid attention to us. By
Speaker 1: the way she she went to Teddy was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay attention to these guys. Wow. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: rumor is that you guys ghost produced. That's the rumor.
Speaker 1: The truth is, my first time meeting Teddy, it was
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night, which this is when I
Speaker 1: first realized that, like people in the music industry are vampires,
Speaker 1: right people talking to me about being a vampire, these
Speaker 1: guys are vampires. They literally wake up in the evening
Speaker 1: and the session doesn't start until eleven, sometimes two o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning, and then they go until you know,
Speaker 1: it's like eight o'clock in the morning. You leave in
Speaker 1: the studio, you're listening to what you just did. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that was that was a new
Speaker 1: world to me. That's that's when Teddy showed me like
Speaker 1: there was a nocturnal world of creativity. I never knew that, right.
Speaker 1: We we worked like we went to work. We work
Speaker 1: in the daytime and ship and that's on purpose that
Speaker 1: they would work that way. Yeah, yeah, but it's it's
Speaker 1: a very real thing. Thank you your brother. Um and
Speaker 1: then um, so I put the record. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you answered that or not. Yeah, get into tonight tonight.
Speaker 1: No no, no, I no know know tonight tonight. And
Speaker 1: I'm saying but but before tonight tonight, my first time
Speaker 1: meeting Teddy, he was working on rum Shaker. It was
Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night. So I want to do
Speaker 1: with zoom zoom zoom. They had everything. I Kill had
Speaker 1: put his first down, markl had his verse down, and
Speaker 1: Teddy was like, yo, you know, can you know? Can
Speaker 1: you can you you? I heard you wrap? It was
Speaker 1: like yeah, He's like, can you write my verse for me?
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, rapp your verse? All
Speaker 1: right right? Right? Yeah? He said can you write my
Speaker 1: verse to me? So I went in and like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, this is breaking news for us
Speaker 1: because I was confirmed or not the story. So the
Speaker 1: room was you made the beat, so that's where the
Speaker 1: people people mistake that, But no, I could never I
Speaker 1: could have never made that beat. That beat with like
Speaker 1: that beat transcended genres to me. You know, we don't
Speaker 1: know if you knew. Our show was about saluting our brothers.
Speaker 1: So we want to salute you. Salute you, my brother,
Speaker 1: because you know all motherfucking vampire boy did all this.
Speaker 1: We love you. So you wrote Teddy's verse. Let's take
Speaker 1: it from there boom. Then what happened on a Classic
Speaker 1: Records that's still to this day bumps. And then now
Speaker 1: this is your your because would you produce all artists? First?
Speaker 1: That was my next where we were we were just
Speaker 1: like we were self we can just we considered ourselves
Speaker 1: self contained artists. You know what I'm saying, you can
Speaker 1: do it all. Listen. You know what I love this
Speaker 1: is like so like this is like so thug, super thug,
Speaker 1: barbershop ship, people got all masks, people smoking weeds, you
Speaker 1: can we're smoking to drinking that you were contained. We're
Speaker 1: definitely here. By the way, why the only weirdos ever
Speaker 1: want to mask in them? So far? Okay, don't Okay?
Speaker 1: When you're your family listening drink. So was that your
Speaker 1: first time, like, because I'm know I'm bouncing all over
Speaker 1: the place, but you know, I've had sessions with you
Speaker 1: with you for twenty years, and I've walked into sessions
Speaker 1: sometimes where you working with an artist and you would
Speaker 1: have a complete record for them, and I just never
Speaker 1: knew that. I didn't knew. I don't know that sounds
Speaker 1: a little ghetto new, but I didn't know that people
Speaker 1: would present records like that. I think I think that
Speaker 1: was the first experience I ever saw like where he
Speaker 1: was like you, like you was like us, your justin
Speaker 1: tim and it would be you do the whole. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that that's what you did at the time,
Speaker 1: like it blew me away. I think it was in
Speaker 1: South Beast studios, the Marling studios once and I was
Speaker 1: just you just playing me records and I was sitting
Speaker 1: back like, holy ship, I didn't know that's what you did. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting that you say that, because when
Speaker 1: you say South Beat, you take me back to when
Speaker 1: we made nothing that's right, and you were you were
Speaker 1: kind enough because I knew that beat, the original beat
Speaker 1: was not good enough and and they were kind of
Speaker 1: like I think even Christmas, like what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? Like it's it's cool? And
Speaker 1: I was like no, now, and now come on, let's
Speaker 1: just let me. I'm gonna tell you my side. Do
Speaker 1: you tell me yours? This is gonna be a little
Speaker 1: long story, but just just sticking. I had just look
Speaker 1: next stoor to me at the time, was driving me back.
Speaker 1: He's driving all this crep. I'm I'm I'm good, but
Speaker 1: I'm not y'all real good. So I go do a
Speaker 1: record like Opposo and Leo cons comes to the studio.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you knew this part. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know the part. But Leo Cohens comes
Speaker 1: to the studio and he has the Jar Rule video
Speaker 1: and he plays it and it's me with my boys
Speaker 1: running around with Lamborghinis and you know, just just all
Speaker 1: this fancy rich shit. And he goes to me, how
Speaker 1: do you like it? And I go, I love it?
Speaker 1: And my boys like you love it? And then Leo
Speaker 1: says it's popcorn. And I never looked at popcorner is
Speaker 1: a bad thing in my life. He said it's popcorn,
Speaker 1: and I was like what, but he meant pop he said.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, I want to tell you a story, Nori.
Speaker 1: So he said, if I cut you, what would you bleed?
Speaker 1: So I said, I would bleed blood, he said, And
Speaker 1: I asked me the same question. So I said, if
Speaker 1: I cut you, what would you bleed? New york On
Speaker 1: said run dmc sucker mc. So I looked at him.
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, that's fucking great answer. I didn't
Speaker 1: say that. So he says to me, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: you this one more time as your solo career. If
Speaker 1: I cut you, what would you bleed? I said, super
Speaker 1: thug And he said exactly. For I was in Virginia
Speaker 1: waiting for you go out there, and he had already
Speaker 1: set up a session with you. So I've rented Virginia.
Speaker 1: Remember the original was, are you dudes really ready to ride?
Speaker 1: All you do? Want to come inside? You want to
Speaker 1: ride and ready to ride? So what you want to do?
Speaker 1: It was a whole different beat. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: whole different beat, and there's a whole different intro to that.
Speaker 1: And you told me to study the Jungle Brothers. You
Speaker 1: remember that. So he was like, um, it was uncle saying,
Speaker 1: Mike g say what the joint the slam with his
Speaker 1: bandage of Chris that joint this slammed five thousand boom
Speaker 1: and watch sound System stated at all now listen to
Speaker 1: nothing and all pop beat say what that man with
Speaker 1: his manager christ and then labeled the jest flaws. So
Speaker 1: on your watch you ain't you dudes her ground you
Speaker 1: maybe still you know what I'm saying. This can't tell
Speaker 1: he's a friendly with the Jungle Brothers. Don't. But you
Speaker 1: know what the first one you gave me before that
Speaker 1: it was he was like, Yo, listen to Vanilla Ice
Speaker 1: Ice Ice Baby, you remember that? You know what that was?
Speaker 1: I back, younger, who I can't do it? You gave
Speaker 1: me that first. I said, I can't. I can't for
Speaker 1: that ice. So if you listen to the fast holliba younger, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 1: it's Ice Ice Baby. All right, So let's let's let's
Speaker 1: bring it back. Yeah, we fast forward it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but there. So let's get back to you writing all
Speaker 1: these music because at first, like I just thought you
Speaker 1: was a hip hop producer. I didn't realize how how
Speaker 1: super talented you was. Like when you deliver these records
Speaker 1: of the people, these people you're giving them a piece
Speaker 1: of your soul. Like how did you develop that? Is
Speaker 1: that producing producing? Or is that we were just finding
Speaker 1: our way? You know what I'm saying. I think I
Speaker 1: think for us more than anything else, it was more
Speaker 1: like you know, um, we we were like, man, we're
Speaker 1: from Virginia. We don't know how long this is gonna last.
Speaker 1: Like yo, take that opportunity and like really really excavate
Speaker 1: as much as you can out of it, you know,
Speaker 1: all the excavate all the opportunity out of it that
Speaker 1: you can. It's like, yeah, I'm working with guys out
Speaker 1: of New York. I'm in Virginia. Like you know, there's
Speaker 1: no deaf jam in in in Norfolk. There's no like
Speaker 1: r c A in Virginia Beach. Like who wasn't like
Speaker 1: Mad Skills was one of the few that had come out.
Speaker 1: Yeah but he was, but he was up the road
Speaker 1: so he wasn't really around him like that because Virginia Beach, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we Virginia Beach. We love him. That's our brother. But
Speaker 1: like you know, that was like up the road. You
Speaker 1: know that that Richmond mas was. It wasn't Maryland or
Speaker 1: d C. But it might as well have been in
Speaker 1: terms of distance, like drop the hand that he dropped
Speaker 1: a Newport new the Richmond was like that was Viina,
Speaker 1: like the beginning of the South. No, because botom Ale
Speaker 1: is not the South. Maryland is not the South. Then
Speaker 1: it's it's the South starts in Virginia. So Maryland is
Speaker 1: the South. Baltimore is the South. It's Virginia. Botimore was
Speaker 1: not the South. Technically it is. Yeah. Yeah, forty three
Speaker 1: years on this earth means nothing. I've never thought of
Speaker 1: the bottoms to be in the South. I don't know
Speaker 1: if people in Baltimore consider themselves the South. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's the South. Even in football or south it's eastern
Speaker 1: football right sunny look up Okay, eastern. But but it's
Speaker 1: like it's not New York. It's like d m V.
Speaker 1: We're like the south west. You know, we all listen
Speaker 1: to go go. DC is considered the south too. I
Speaker 1: mean that's like child is all funked up right now.
Speaker 1: You can say, you can say it's up north from US,
Speaker 1: but it's south of New York. New York feels like
Speaker 1: north to us. Up north is the state area. I'm
Speaker 1: saying d C still is East Coast Okay, I think
Speaker 1: what you're thinking the Tri State area is what is
Speaker 1: the real Northeast. That's it. That's all we got. We
Speaker 1: got New York and that's pretty much your east to us.
Speaker 1: I thought Bortomore was us Nah Bottomore or No, that's
Speaker 1: like look how it look. Look that's a whole other
Speaker 1: world where they dressed the way talk. Everything that's not
Speaker 1: Philly is another world. But it's still a part of us.
Speaker 1: Philly is. But by the way, that's why they're part
Speaker 1: of the Tri State. You feel me like, once you
Speaker 1: get outside of the Try State, like you know, you
Speaker 1: get to that, you know, you start to get into
Speaker 1: them different kind of drawls, sudden draws, and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the way they dressed different and the
Speaker 1: fact that first of all, I think Philly is probably
Speaker 1: Philly is where mcs are born. They just grow into
Speaker 1: the goodness, you know what I'm saying. And the music there,
Speaker 1: the musicality there is unbelievable, you know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: But when as soon as you get outside of that,
Speaker 1: you hit that d C you know, go, go, I
Speaker 1: see people fishing in the club. Yeah, crazy, that's that
Speaker 1: Bake song. So you can see yourself a self producer. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: But you know, if I'm gonna say like where it
Speaker 1: came from first, right off the cuff, And I don't
Speaker 1: want abody to get mad at me, because my Maryland
Speaker 1: folks was mad at me when I said something about
Speaker 1: Go Go, and I didn't really mean in that way
Speaker 1: this because I was only really thinking about Baltimore at
Speaker 1: the time. But you know, when I think about like
Speaker 1: music coming out of the South, I'm gonna say Atlanta
Speaker 1: and and and Miami to me, at Miami made a
Speaker 1: lot of noise influence to you what from these areas influence?
Speaker 1: First of all, I mean in the eighties, like the
Speaker 1: Miami base was like everything you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like the Gucci Cruise and stuff like that, and it
Speaker 1: looks like so powerful, ready to claim Yeah wow, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so bouncing around right the nerves, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: all right? What is the difference from the Nerves and
Speaker 1: the Neptunes? So any r D was created because for
Speaker 1: a very long time we were trying as artists as
Speaker 1: the Neptunes to get a deal, but that never happened
Speaker 1: because I was just way too out there and too
Speaker 1: crazy and and time wasn't ready for me, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for time um um, and so the context
Speaker 1: just never made sense. But then you know, it just
Speaker 1: started like my influence being out there more like with
Speaker 1: the way I dress and you know, just like you know,
Speaker 1: like swagging and like saucing on other people's records and ship.
Speaker 1: The market started to warm up and pretty much the gatekeepers,
Speaker 1: the A and R s had to it had to
Speaker 1: be their idea first. When I was presenting, and it
Speaker 1: was like, remember, like I'd never forget your manager, rest
Speaker 1: in peace, love baby, Chris Man, I'll never forget. Like
Speaker 1: one day I was just like rapping so long, just
Speaker 1: kind of you know because at the time I could
Speaker 1: also like free St Island Ship and I was freestyling,
Speaker 1: and then they like picked up the phone call like
Speaker 1: while I was still rapping, and uh, I was just
Speaker 1: so full of myself at that time. I didn't give
Speaker 1: a ship. I just kept rapping or whatever. Like Rob
Speaker 1: Walker tell you that was a very funny story because
Speaker 1: Chris is like, yeah, you're hold on the second, I'm
Speaker 1: still rapping and ship. He walked out and take a
Speaker 1: call and come back, like you know, Chris was real
Speaker 1: like that, and uh, but it was it was one
Speaker 1: of those things where like it just wasn't that time.
Speaker 1: So by the time we met Calise and then we
Speaker 1: put her album out over at Virgin you know, Keith Uh,
Speaker 1: Keith Woods at the time. Yeah, Janet Jackson, Lenneykravis and
Speaker 1: a lot of great rock acts were there. And that's
Speaker 1: so it's like after we did the Callise album, um,
Speaker 1: and she came out and she was a she was
Speaker 1: a success. Um. We felt like they felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: what about you guys, Why don't you guys make a record?
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't want to make a
Speaker 1: record calling neptunes. At this point we're known as production,
Speaker 1: like we need to be something else. And that's when
Speaker 1: No One Ever Really Dies was born, which was n
Speaker 1: r D. But you thought, to a certain sting, you
Speaker 1: thought that was captain like calling yourself nerves because you're
Speaker 1: really not a nerd. No, but we're not. If you
Speaker 1: think about it right, it's an acronym, which is no
Speaker 1: one ever really dies? Do you have? You know, the
Speaker 1: revision of the Nerds. Those guys were horn dogs. They
Speaker 1: were bad, they were horny dudes a thing, you know.
Speaker 1: But I don't think looks. But here's the thing. We
Speaker 1: grew up in the nineties, right, We grew up in
Speaker 1: the eighties and the nineties where the nerds ended up
Speaker 1: They were nerds in school, but they ended up like
Speaker 1: driving the BMW's and the Mercedes, you know, and getting
Speaker 1: the all the nerds from. So we thought that was
Speaker 1: super cool. Every time that comes on, I think it's
Speaker 1: a beat about the drop because there's a note go
Speaker 1: it goes bones. Look at you to Um, I want
Speaker 1: to get back to you for a bit because I
Speaker 1: know you're humble and I respect that, but you need
Speaker 1: to be giving your flowers. Um, you're actually, if if not,
Speaker 1: the best whild I say you are. But the wait
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones put melodies together and put projects together, your
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones of Wrapped. Can you accept that? I cannot?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're gonna you also you also you also.
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot of your swan ship. Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot of that. What is it called?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, it's it's a shot. It's called it's
Speaker 1: called purple rain. Purple Oh got shot? Classes, Okay, give
Speaker 1: me some of that. It's not a shot it's more
Speaker 1: of a set. But okay, but we're gonna take the shot.
Speaker 1: Goddamn you gotta gotta he already ready, goddamnit. Don't give
Speaker 1: me a shot of that too. Okay, please gonna don't
Speaker 1: we shot? Don't shots special ohip big boy from the Outcast.
Speaker 1: Just text me. That's crazy. We got goody map on Monday.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a shot. I don't don't leaven forgetting my subject. Okay,
Speaker 1: you look so so. Let me let me take my
Speaker 1: mass off of this law for give me. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not supposed to be doing this crazy No, of course,
Speaker 1: take my shot off just to say this slut you know,
Speaker 1: cheers immediately text me since I took that so so so.
Speaker 1: When you first introduced me, you said super kind things,
Speaker 1: but you also included Jesus, and I just want to
Speaker 1: be clear, like for anybody that us believe, or people
Speaker 1: who are atheists or whatever, God is the absolute greatest.
Speaker 1: I could never ever be compared. And I knew it was.
Speaker 1: I knew you were being colorful, I knew you were
Speaker 1: being poetic. I was trying to do a parable of course,
Speaker 1: of course, but I just have to humble myself in
Speaker 1: that moment to just be like, Yo, God is the greatest.
Speaker 1: You gotta show about God on Netflix? Right, my uncle
Speaker 1: does call voices of fire? Okay, is this about? Let's
Speaker 1: break that down. So that is my uncle, um, And
Speaker 1: then I want to get back to giving it up
Speaker 1: to the guy. So you know, my uncle, um it
Speaker 1: was a child prodigy and uh at playing piano, and
Speaker 1: he was as a renowned um on the gospel world,
Speaker 1: was a renowned organist and pianist. They played for a
Speaker 1: lot of churches and at some point, you know, it
Speaker 1: was his calling to also become a pastor, and he
Speaker 1: became a bishop. And I just thought, man, if he
Speaker 1: has all of that talent and was known previously as
Speaker 1: being this great, you know musician, that his choir needed
Speaker 1: to be amazing. And Hampton Rhodes has so much talent
Speaker 1: that we wanted to make sure that we gave them
Speaker 1: a platform to build the you know, a great choir
Speaker 1: that pulled from all of you know, Newport News, Hampton,
Speaker 1: Newport News, Hampton, Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Poor Smith, um Chesapeake,
Speaker 1: Suffolk to pull them all in to get the best
Speaker 1: people who could arguably all sing lead if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: but have to work within the confines of being a
Speaker 1: choir and not being the one to sing the lead.
Speaker 1: So being so good that you're able to be humble
Speaker 1: and can be part of something bigger than yourself. So
Speaker 1: that was Voices of Fire. That's beautiful. So I want
Speaker 1: to go back to this thing. God is the greatest
Speaker 1: man God, And I'm not I'm not perfect, I'm not sinless,
Speaker 1: but I know when I look over, like I used
Speaker 1: to say it on all my like like a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of my career, like, man, why me?
Speaker 1: Like how did I get here? I know you've questioned,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you have as well. But the key
Speaker 1: is is because I think I think the universe puts
Speaker 1: us in this position because they because it knows that
Speaker 1: we're going to give back. It knows that we are
Speaker 1: gonna take our experiences and share the codes where the
Speaker 1: other brothers and sisters. And that's the reason why, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody else might not have wanted to share the codes.
Speaker 1: And you know that in the music industry where you
Speaker 1: see some people doing well, other people not. And it's
Speaker 1: only until you start feeling lucky that someone pulls you
Speaker 1: to the side and gives you the code, Like, why
Speaker 1: should we feel Lucky's branch Avenci positive energy? Positive Avencie
Speaker 1: sometimes positive energy. Why why why should we feel lucky
Speaker 1: that our brother or our sisters sharing the cod That's
Speaker 1: something wrong with the culture, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for me, I know it's my duty. I know
Speaker 1: I'm not just having these experiences because my own glorification,
Speaker 1: on my own enjoyment. It's because I'm meant to share
Speaker 1: the codes, and we're getting the shot of purple rain,
Speaker 1: and we just got to continue to do that. We
Speaker 1: got to share the cod. MA don't got to have
Speaker 1: colds got so I want to know the shot of
Speaker 1: purple rain. Got THEAMN. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not even ask what it is. No, it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's it has tequila in there. But that there's
Speaker 1: a there's a natural flower that turns the purple. M hmm.
Speaker 1: I'm bouncing around a little bit right now. We got
Speaker 1: the human race, yes, sir, okay, you got they got
Speaker 1: skin cream too. Yeah, that is that cold human race
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so this sneakers apparel human race, right,
Speaker 1: and then skincare. By the way, we got a box, fring.
Speaker 1: You got a boxing damn it? Can we can? We
Speaker 1: bring it out? Hut me and my wife remember my
Speaker 1: right right there, we're gonna do some STI kid gotta
Speaker 1: damn it. You're gonna do it. A looks beautiful your filming, filming, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: can you open it so? I want you? Okay, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm not a good opening. Yeah yeah, I'm not a
Speaker 1: good Give him his gift. We got some gifts too.
Speaker 1: We're sunny d We got to gift from you too.
Speaker 1: Goddamn holy ship. All I can take the tape off right,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, all right, boom, all right, now when
Speaker 1: you got the campus, zoom in on it. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. This this is too fly. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This is double box. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Come on, okay, we'll help me out
Speaker 1: this way at leave your dominican. Dominican is not to
Speaker 1: open every give it to him. You've been rags, bring
Speaker 1: some much whatever it is. It looks beautiful. Good yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's stuff right here too as well. And look
Speaker 1: it's another box. It's like the Russian dead. Look at
Speaker 1: that you focus it on that? Yo? Yeah, holy shit.
Speaker 1: So this is so elegant. It's just like I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm opening the g Q box you and thank
Speaker 1: you and then give given. So here's the thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's right here. Oh, this out, This is made
Speaker 1: in Japan. This is ye, this right here, and then
Speaker 1: this right here shows you like where to put it.
Speaker 1: This goes in your room. So that's your rice pot
Speaker 1: of cleanser. Wow, this is your exfoliator that has an
Speaker 1: ah callic acid in it, and it also has the
Speaker 1: lotus enzyme in there and that helps like exfoliate. And
Speaker 1: then it's the humidifying thing which also has a snow
Speaker 1: must room in it, which locks in. Noister, this is
Speaker 1: what's gonna go in y'all bathroom, says goddamn god me two.
Speaker 1: Much like eating the massage, but no reason. Come on, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on because the lead put it back together. Need
Speaker 1: to please. I want to put it in my cock.
Speaker 1: Come on, this is this. Let me take my shot.
Speaker 1: Let me take my shot. You did you hit your
Speaker 1: burger brain? Oh yeah? And the super doc o g short,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta gotta go. That's I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: we love you for over here. Sorry, sorry, we love
Speaker 1: you now. I know I'm bouncing around a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you got a chance to work with Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: is after Snoop had went through his termorial with death
Speaker 1: Row and then uh he went to No Limit and
Speaker 1: then after that, you got a chance to work with Snoop.
Speaker 1: How how was that for you? So? I think I'm
Speaker 1: trying to remember, and I'm really sorry if my memory
Speaker 1: is not serving me correctly. But I think when we
Speaker 1: did church to the Palace and Beautiful, I think that was.
Speaker 1: I think that was on No Limit. Yeah, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not sure. I think that was. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that was. Yeah, come on, how's you just sitting around?
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm sitting around thinking like you limits? Still
Speaker 1: that was? Yeah. I didn't feel like it might not
Speaker 1: have been it was right after that because there was
Speaker 1: the one with Snoops Beautiful. I felt like that was
Speaker 1: right after he left No Limit. Okay, maybe it was, Hey,
Speaker 1: but we got Google. We got we can't Google will
Speaker 1: tell us we can't guess. Yeah, let it shine, let
Speaker 1: it shine. Make sure you got that on camera? Oh man, Nah,
Speaker 1: thank you? Come on, I didn't even intend that. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to present it to you. Let us Shoine
Speaker 1: baby come on, just be here. Mm hmm. Wasn't that
Speaker 1: the one that was on the limit? That album Polly Graham, Well,
Speaker 1: that's what he made. He became like an executive problem
Speaker 1: and he re released all those albums. But I guess
Speaker 1: my question is to be a little sorry about that?
Speaker 1: Is um, you know this is this is a legend, right,
Speaker 1: He's worked with Dr Dre, He's working with all these
Speaker 1: other people. Is that pressures for you to produce, do
Speaker 1: something more? Or like what do you do like me
Speaker 1: in a situation like that? You know? I think pressure
Speaker 1: comes from um, from uh the idea of of of
Speaker 1: having to face the idea or the notion that you
Speaker 1: could fail. Right, And there's a lot of time that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time doing that. And as I said to you before
Speaker 1: we're from Virginia, I never lost that feeling like, man,
Speaker 1: what I get a chance to work with Snoop? The
Speaker 1: only thing I'm focused on and on is how crazy
Speaker 1: it could be. And my only job is to try
Speaker 1: to match what I'm doing with that feeling of man.
Speaker 1: You're not crazy, this could be. That's when I knew,
Speaker 1: just for a second, that's when I knew, like nothing
Speaker 1: was not where they needed to be until we got
Speaker 1: to that place and I was like, no, do you understand, Like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we did super Thunder, we gotta and we did no
Speaker 1: exactly were fun right, and then even some of our
Speaker 1: like other records that weren't even singles are good, like
Speaker 1: we just we had joints like one of our underrated ones.
Speaker 1: And then we'll go back to to to to big
Speaker 1: bro snoop is um no, I'm a I'm a g Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's pure. I was overweighted that time.
Speaker 1: I didn't translate in the video when the people see
Speaker 1: me in the video, I didn't look believable. I was
Speaker 1: just overweight. I was stressed out. So it's my fault
Speaker 1: that record didn't work. I'mna be honest, I'm taking that one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying that one because like I mean, it
Speaker 1: was it was translated because you know who picked that record.
Speaker 1: L A read el A. We hand picked that record.
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm going to bat for this record,
Speaker 1: but it was was. I was just so I was
Speaker 1: dealing with so much at the time, I couldn't focus
Speaker 1: on me. So the record was great. But like I
Speaker 1: told that to Buster, I was like, Yo, this time,
Speaker 1: you know what what I'm Busters? I'm sorry my all
Speaker 1: over the place. But Buster's album he has the look
Speaker 1: and the records. Sometimes you have the look and you
Speaker 1: won't have the record. Sometimes you have the records, and
Speaker 1: that's what do you enjoy Busters this album? Man, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy for him. See directing these videos for Buss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what's so happy for him, bro, because he's doing
Speaker 1: what he want to do now he want to do it,
Speaker 1: and he's saying all the ship he want to say,
Speaker 1: and by the way, he continues to reinvent himself every time.
Speaker 1: You're definitely happy for Big Bro. Man. I enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: so let's get back too. So with Snoop, it was like, Man,
Speaker 1: he came in on his tour bus and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, just give me that ship and
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and uh you know, uh he
Speaker 1: would we're working in there, and then like once I
Speaker 1: was ready, he would come down off his tour bus.
Speaker 1: Because we were still working in um Master Sound at
Speaker 1: the time was Hovercraft were with chat and I brought
Speaker 1: the studio and he when he came in, we did
Speaker 1: Church the Palace. He loved that, and he really loved Beautiful.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get beautiful. I didn't get Beautiful
Speaker 1: mainly because I was on there singing flat as fuck
Speaker 1: and um just just didn't hear it. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a fun record for Charlie Wilson, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: Charlie sounding amazing, and this feels good to me, but
Speaker 1: no one's ever gonna go for this. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: I thought Church the Palace because it was harder. And
Speaker 1: then when that record popped, I was like, wow, you
Speaker 1: know and and and and Snooze always been that guy
Speaker 1: that's like, yo, take me there, I trust you. Then
Speaker 1: you could tell that he worked with a season you know,
Speaker 1: a really seasoned genius producer who was really the really
Speaker 1: our generation's greatest producer of all time is Dr track two.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's sorry, man, I got you number one, Bro,
Speaker 1: just let go, letting you go, letting go. But Dr
Speaker 1: Dre is like man, Dr Dre Bro, but we respect him,
Speaker 1: of course, we love him. But um but um um
Speaker 1: Snoop was just like snoop. You know what, my our
Speaker 1: greatest rap records are always when I'm in the studio
Speaker 1: with someone who's a personality, and you guys were always
Speaker 1: like personalities. I didn't get a chance to work with
Speaker 1: Capone when I first met you, Capone and just he
Speaker 1: had gotten locked up already. See that's just something like that.
Speaker 1: It's a beat, the beat for you to make the
Speaker 1: introduce you. You got some perfect ring because I'm taking
Speaker 1: another shot. I got you want a little bit more
Speaker 1: purple on purplein. I ain't gonna lie, I'm doing the
Speaker 1: Swan and ordering purple rain. This is this is look,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot. He taking a whole glass. I
Speaker 1: ain't allow. I'm turning this into a shot, solid, solidtle finish. Um.
Speaker 1: That's it good. That's why I wish you didn't tell
Speaker 1: me it was the killer in there, because it's so good.
Speaker 1: I might so now I'm gonna be careful because I
Speaker 1: hate to kill. You only get to tequila when you
Speaker 1: just want your energy to be turned up. But I
Speaker 1: hate to taste. I can't taste it. This is why
Speaker 1: this is that swan. That's swine um. And you know
Speaker 1: for me, like I just feel like characters are always
Speaker 1: the ones that, like I'm able to give context to
Speaker 1: you know, Mona Lisa was a character, but Da Vinci
Speaker 1: was able to put the track behind her that made
Speaker 1: her face. Makes sense with that because if you take that,
Speaker 1: if you get her out of the photo and just
Speaker 1: look at the backdrop, it's like some rolling hills, a
Speaker 1: little bit of water. Big deal. But it was perfect
Speaker 1: for her, right And That's what I've always enjoyed as
Speaker 1: a musician. Chat and I is too. You know, we
Speaker 1: did what it is right now. For Buster, I would
Speaker 1: have never been able to make that beat if it
Speaker 1: weren't for him, If Buster wouldn't have walked in the
Speaker 1: end the studio with that energy, and I had made
Speaker 1: it for him. But that's just like yep, and you
Speaker 1: know you super thug. It's like Malik was was really
Speaker 1: good friends with Rob Walker and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy gnor to check them out, And I knew
Speaker 1: who you were because of blood Money. When I heard
Speaker 1: blood Money, I did not understand, like, because there's not
Speaker 1: too many like the thuggish characters who are really dedicated
Speaker 1: to being a character as much as they're dedicated to
Speaker 1: being a thug. There's you, there's Cameron. You know, there's
Speaker 1: just different guys. You know, there are new guys that
Speaker 1: I like today that I felt like they're going to
Speaker 1: character and like I just really love what they do
Speaker 1: and their verbs are great, but it's the the idea
Speaker 1: that they're willing to go there. The baby has that,
Speaker 1: you know, black youngster has that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like they're going to they stayed the character the whole time.
Speaker 1: A Black youngster TikTok is this is as funny, entertaining
Speaker 1: and as hard as his song. No but I see it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And people don't know the
Speaker 1: baby been around for a while. Yes, man, I remember
Speaker 1: b t was years ago. Like he's like really, he's
Speaker 1: like really a character. He's dedicated to that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Nellie, it's another one like more people
Speaker 1: don't know. More Real was very real and he stayed
Speaker 1: in that character the whole time. Band Aid under the eye.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, God to doing the dance,
Speaker 1: doing this. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, but
Speaker 1: those kind of guys, Snoop is one of them. I
Speaker 1: know I digressed a bit, but I wanted to make
Speaker 1: the sense, make the picture like, there's a reason you
Speaker 1: mentioned him because there's him you uh, but we supposed
Speaker 1: to focus on him. I'm sorry to cut you off.
Speaker 1: There's my kind of focus on him is because he
Speaker 1: had his whole aluxious career prior to you. So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, is like, Yo, are you thinking like
Speaker 1: you you're gonna mess this up? I'm gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna break a less record than you. Know what? I mean?
Speaker 1: What he what he's done with Dr Dre is that.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is no way. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I want to do whatever it takes to add to that.
Speaker 1: And I know what, Mike, I know what my ultimate
Speaker 1: competition was. I knew I had to make something that
Speaker 1: felt as good, not better, but as good as one
Speaker 1: seven on that the cover come as I glided through
Speaker 1: the called me Snoop Eastwood. You're like that, what this is?
Speaker 1: What a lot of people don't know how much of
Speaker 1: a hip hop person you like? You really are? Like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, And I would think that's the most
Speaker 1: is it? Would you say it's important to maintain that fandom,
Speaker 1: to be creative with these people, Yes, man, listen, Hey.
Speaker 1: When I first heard this is won't too long ago.
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to tell you these moments that
Speaker 1: when I feel it and I just fall over and
Speaker 1: I can't do anything with myself but just roll over
Speaker 1: and just die over and over again. When I heard
Speaker 1: Gucci mains peeping out the blinds? Have you heard that song?
Speaker 1: Find at these niggas, Find at these niggas, find out
Speaker 1: these niggas outside, I feel like Malcolm maxic people and
Speaker 1: all the blinds, It's gonna be fine hunting niggas. Sorry,
Speaker 1: when I'm feeling not finding these niggas firing and the
Speaker 1: siren and finding these niggas outshine, I feel like Malcolm
Speaker 1: makes some people and the blinds he's gonna be has
Speaker 1: done its own shot. Who your man now? Click cleck what?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? No, no man down? Click clack? Who
Speaker 1: your man now? I know you're heard about gut your man.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. You guys have to hear that. You know,
Speaker 1: when I get to that place, You're not it's nothing,
Speaker 1: It's it's over. It's like the first time I heard
Speaker 1: juveniles ha, oh my god. You know the first time
Speaker 1: I heard juven I was in New Orleans. I was.
Speaker 1: I was in there doing the Puerto Rican show at
Speaker 1: that in New Orleans. It's the weirdest ship ever, Like
Speaker 1: you got Puerto Ricans. Yeah, yeah, So what was your
Speaker 1: what is that first experience? Like when you hear other
Speaker 1: when you hear other people records and it is dope,
Speaker 1: do you say I wish I could have made that
Speaker 1: or do you say, what did you I get the
Speaker 1: first of the record that you ever heard? You said,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have made that better question? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, there's so many one off top trial called
Speaker 1: quest Lyrics to Go. Damn. I knew he was gonna
Speaker 1: go to drive. I just Lyrics to Go. I was
Speaker 1: at Tammy Lucas's house. Me g new Cam we bought
Speaker 1: that ship for the first time. We was over there
Speaker 1: listening to that ship and Shay was over there. We died.
Speaker 1: We died, We died. We all of us died. We
Speaker 1: died for like, it's dope. We died, okay, So and
Speaker 1: Bro gotta drunk. You died, come back and something's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, you died. And then like and then
Speaker 1: bro when he said ship like fan when he says like, um,
Speaker 1: you know when people are boxing and you know, somebody
Speaker 1: is drunk and they're boby get knocked out. Be l
Speaker 1: Now he did, he did, he did. He was saying, oh,
Speaker 1: he's in the cough okay. And or when someone's been
Speaker 1: drinking too much and you know they just finished for
Speaker 1: the night, like he's dead. He did a couple of times.
Speaker 1: And then when it's real bag, you're like, yo, he
Speaker 1: in the coffin, No bro, come get him here in
Speaker 1: the coffin. When it's real bag, to be like, yo, maggots.
Speaker 1: He's maggots right now, he's maggot, Come get them. But
Speaker 1: that's not we but we but we find that comical
Speaker 1: because you see a person that and they in the
Speaker 1: mix and it's like you already know they're about to
Speaker 1: have another rough twenty four hours of waking up crazy
Speaker 1: hangover just finished. So we just you know, So there's
Speaker 1: two kind of contexts of using the word dying and dead.
Speaker 1: We try to stay away from the third one. Yeah yeah, Amene, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've always been a guy. It's always been like woman
Speaker 1: is around all the time. Yeah, how do you develop that? Man?
Speaker 1: I think women are the greatest gift to us. Um,
Speaker 1: they actually give us life. You know, I don't understand
Speaker 1: hating women in any way, shape or form, because that's
Speaker 1: forgetting where you actually come from. Every last human being
Speaker 1: walking around here came from a woman, unless you came
Speaker 1: out of a test tube. And you know, God bless you.
Speaker 1: But other than that, like other than that, like I
Speaker 1: don't know where to go. But right, I mean right,
Speaker 1: all of us come from that amazing silver lining of
Speaker 1: an elevator through the conduit of a woman's body. So
Speaker 1: how could you not how could you hate on what
Speaker 1: gave you life? You know what I'm saying. And the
Speaker 1: other thing is like I say this all the time,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, man, we'll never know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be a woman because once a month they
Speaker 1: go through some ship that will never be able to understand.
Speaker 1: And they got to keep a smile in their face,
Speaker 1: and they got to continue to deliver. They got to
Speaker 1: continue to work. They kind come to work and talk
Speaker 1: to you about what they what what what what? In
Speaker 1: the Native American culture they call the moon. They can't
Speaker 1: talk about when they go through their moon or through
Speaker 1: their cycle or whatever. They got to just do what
Speaker 1: they do. I will never know. Can you imagine feeling
Speaker 1: like shit for three or four or five six days,
Speaker 1: and you still got to perform all thirty days of
Speaker 1: the month and thirty one days of the month, um.
Speaker 1: And then and then and then. The other thing that
Speaker 1: we'll never know the burden of being a woman is well,
Speaker 1: there's lots of them, right, like societal burdens that they
Speaker 1: get put through. They don't even get paid the same
Speaker 1: of us. Like it's like you, we couldn't even imagine
Speaker 1: that's a real Still it's like seventy cents on the
Speaker 1: man's dollar. Yeah. So like but then and that's a
Speaker 1: lot of them, right. I'm not talking about you know,
Speaker 1: women like Caryl Sandberg who they supersede, but even she
Speaker 1: could just tell you, like she goes through things, through
Speaker 1: things as well, or like you know our new vice
Speaker 1: president elect, um, you know Harris, you know Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: Like she could tell you things that she's going through, um,
Speaker 1: even in the highest position like one of the leaders
Speaker 1: of the free world. But the other thing that women
Speaker 1: do too, man, is they bring life into this world.
Speaker 1: They literally hold onto life. Like we don't as men,
Speaker 1: we don't know what that's like. We gotta do ship
Speaker 1: they keep doing stuff while they're carrying life in their bodies.
Speaker 1: Like my wife literally had four heartbeats and her body
Speaker 1: at one time because she had triplets, for god, right,
Speaker 1: so she grew through sets three sets of organs and
Speaker 1: her body while she had her own set of organs.
Speaker 1: So literally, my wife had four heartbeats going on at once.
Speaker 1: It's amazing, you know. So it's like it's it's just
Speaker 1: my my my feeling for women. I love them from
Speaker 1: a from a lovely place, I loved them from a
Speaker 1: lustful place. I love them all the way around, and
Speaker 1: I just you know, they've always been a huge more
Speaker 1: vational force for my music. You know, there's always that.
Speaker 1: There's always like women were always the concern like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what are the girl's gonna think, you know when they
Speaker 1: hit its beata, how they're gonna feel when they hear
Speaker 1: this this this melody or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's really the reason why I've always just happened
Speaker 1: in the beginning, like you know, from from Super Dog on,
Speaker 1: when we would play records or you will play records back,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't play a record unless a woman was in
Speaker 1: the second. You would be like your hold on nor
Speaker 1: like like like no, no, no, let's just just make
Speaker 1: sure like you always wanted a woman's opinion. And that's
Speaker 1: the reason why I knew Super Doug would work with
Speaker 1: the woman. I don't know if you remember, but Super,
Speaker 1: my album was done. I'm gonna get to the first
Speaker 1: thing I met. My album was done. And you said
Speaker 1: to me, you can't your album is not done, like
Speaker 1: you're cocky in the beginning, like like in the beginning,
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm trying to tell you, Like
Speaker 1: you look at me like it was like, no, you're
Speaker 1: not closing your album. Your album is not closed. And
Speaker 1: I was like I didn't know how to you know,
Speaker 1: what's it called re forecast? Like I learned that later,
Speaker 1: and you was like, this is this is the greatest story, right,
Speaker 1: not this part. This part of it's a part of
Speaker 1: the embarrassing. You know where it was that sound on
Speaker 1: sound studios? Oh my god. And I remember because Biggie
Speaker 1: used to go upstairs. A lot of people thought Biggie
Speaker 1: recorded and um bad boy, but around the corner from
Speaker 1: bad Way one block over. Remember it was on forty
Speaker 1: four uh Daddy's house, excuse me, and was sound on
Speaker 1: sound It's the first day I met you, I walked in.
Speaker 1: You quoted me quote the Bloody Money, brough the room,
Speaker 1: quote the Bloody Money to me, and I was like wow.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as you finish, you said, but
Speaker 1: I don't have one thug bone in my body. I said,
Speaker 1: I like this guy. He's rare, and then you said yeah.
Speaker 1: I was not closed though, and I said, so if
Speaker 1: you remember at the end of Super Dug, I'm actually
Speaker 1: saying in a R E Nori the remix, because this
Speaker 1: is actually going to use it as the remix to
Speaker 1: know r E. Because I was trying to do a
Speaker 1: big deal, but one more chance and one more like
Speaker 1: And what happened was we played the record too too
Speaker 1: to these NYC DJs. Oh, let me just I think
Speaker 1: it was all DJs, and you know what everyone said
Speaker 1: because they didn't understand that that tune sound at the time.
Speaker 1: All looked at us in our face and said, this
Speaker 1: is too dark of a record. Next, let me get
Speaker 1: to it. So listen they I'm sitting there because the
Speaker 1: record that we want to go with band from TV
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we gotta go with Super Thug. And
Speaker 1: we played it for all these people. They said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: do y'all understand what band from TV was? Does everybody
Speaker 1: know who was on that? Do people really understand? Yo?
Speaker 1: Do people really? I know? I I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I just want to just take a hold on a second.
Speaker 1: Do y'all understand how crazy band from TV is? First
Speaker 1: of all, the title alone and people don't know like
Speaker 1: the actual band from TV like at that time? Let
Speaker 1: me tell you so, did DJ say the record is
Speaker 1: too dark? Meaning like it's gonna work at a tunnel
Speaker 1: And that'sh it. So that's the reason why if you
Speaker 1: if you look at Super Dug video, there's not one
Speaker 1: night time shot in the video. We shot the whole
Speaker 1: ship in the daytime. We did. We shot the whole
Speaker 1: it was too dark. They swear to god, I should
Speaker 1: have clapped that goddamn But it was the whole And
Speaker 1: it was crazy because because that record spoke to us
Speaker 1: in the South immediately. Yeah, I had no idea, like
Speaker 1: like I was decided because to me, that was a
Speaker 1: South record. I'm like, oh, yeah, you always told me that.
Speaker 1: He always told me he made the South record, And
Speaker 1: I was like, really, I never understood that. Virginia's like,
Speaker 1: I'm clear to David sound well. Just to be clear
Speaker 1: and not to get political, but Richmond is the capital
Speaker 1: of Virginia, but Richmond was also the capital of the control. Right.
Speaker 1: So I get to this point and I'll break it
Speaker 1: down because you gave me two like I got ten
Speaker 1: top phone calls of my life and you're tool. I
Speaker 1: don't know who called you and told you that they
Speaker 1: were throwing cheers. Yes, but then you called me and
Speaker 1: said strict this phenomena and I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about. He's like, they can't play in the club,
Speaker 1: they don't cares. The greatest calls I ever when you
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, this is it's really
Speaker 1: like you just I was like wow, because you gotta
Speaker 1: remember I listen. I was supposed to go into a
Speaker 1: deeper story with my father, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that. But so you remember that called when you
Speaker 1: called me, was like they're throwing cheers, bro. I remember that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that call specifically, but I remember that time,
Speaker 1: and I remember that feeling. I remember Rob Walker calling me,
Speaker 1: going yo yo. They played the record in such and
Speaker 1: such and such. It was first time, first time. I
Speaker 1: guess that's where I don't know if it was there,
Speaker 1: but he was like, they played it in such and such.
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, and they had to turn the
Speaker 1: record off. They kept playing it back to back and
Speaker 1: after a while, like they got like everybody was just
Speaker 1: getting unruly and he was and he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: niggas was throwing chairs and niggas are throwing chairs and
Speaker 1: I'm like what. And that was like at the time,
Speaker 1: like that's not a big deal to whoever. You know,
Speaker 1: the kids that are listening now, they don't, they don't
Speaker 1: understand you. But we were, we were changing the tide
Speaker 1: of what what happened because honest, onest had a big
Speaker 1: moment where they were mash pitting and things like that
Speaker 1: as well. The only ones that we're doing right. But
Speaker 1: then here comes this guy that comes from you know,
Speaker 1: t O and Y and New York get the blood
Speaker 1: money would that guy? That guy, that guy had violator blood.
Speaker 1: He wasn't just like with with all due love and respect.
Speaker 1: He wasn't like just like a hood like Queen's Bridge Rapper.
Speaker 1: He was actually met the people who owned Left Rack.
Speaker 1: It was like really wild at the un Yeah, that yo,
Speaker 1: that the product. I just blew my mind. I met
Speaker 1: them at the u N and they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: such a left rack. I was like, met the like
Speaker 1: but but but but but I'm just saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew that you were a character when I heard
Speaker 1: blood Money. So here we go with this song and
Speaker 1: and and I felt like we had chatted. And also
Speaker 1: said to me, you said just listen to me like that.
Speaker 1: That's swear to God. And I was like, I am,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just was like, and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: He was the exact opposite because I had a four
Speaker 1: x on at the time. You remember, this was baggy
Speaker 1: baggage and you came in with tight clothes from him. Again,
Speaker 1: I was like, and for some reason, I just believe you.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get to the story and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna bounce back. You gave me, made me two beats,
Speaker 1: and I was on my way to Miami. This is
Speaker 1: why the Marland Hotel is always significant. So you said
Speaker 1: this third beat, don't listen to it to you land
Speaker 1: in Miami. And we landed in Miami the Kent Hotel.
Speaker 1: Whatever promoter is, he was a foul person. Can come on,
Speaker 1: I'll put you in the I'm not I'm not groundless.
Speaker 1: Never let this up. But anyway, so I go upstairs,
Speaker 1: and I remember they pooled us across the street from
Speaker 1: across the street, so I go there and I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember I played, so you played me the first
Speaker 1: two ones and sound on sound if you said the
Speaker 1: third one, don't listen to until you get to Miami.
Speaker 1: So I got to the King Hotel, whatever, get upstairs.
Speaker 1: I played at you and then you already had it. Man,
Speaker 1: well Noriega. It was the first time a producer took
Speaker 1: their time to make a beat for me. I don't
Speaker 1: think you guys understand what the hell I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: Like this time, people just give you a beat and
Speaker 1: if you like it, they'll just sell it to Cougie
Speaker 1: Rap or sell it to you know whoever. Like when
Speaker 1: I heard that ship, it blew my mind. You know,
Speaker 1: I wrote that whole ship in like twenty minutes. I
Speaker 1: was like, and I called you immediately. The only thing
Speaker 1: I said I said because Tammy Lucas was saying yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, cause she's changed it to what
Speaker 1: what he was like, tomorrow we'll do the right track.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm flying back tomorrow. And I
Speaker 1: flew back and that was that was probably like what
Speaker 1: made you do that? Like what made you put that?
Speaker 1: Because I swear to God I was. I was buying
Speaker 1: the beat just because she said my name before we
Speaker 1: was in the studio together. I was like, how did
Speaker 1: you what's the whole story behind? Because I always told
Speaker 1: my part, right, I definitely don't know your part when
Speaker 1: you're presenting me that beat. And MC light told me
Speaker 1: she had to beat once society told me he had
Speaker 1: to be an artist that was on what's Lucas Nabor
Speaker 1: Sipping Side Sipping Side records? He said he heard that beat.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I'm just saying I think
Speaker 1: I made something for Light and we were definitely trying
Speaker 1: to get because like looking at me was for B
Speaker 1: B D. If you think, but they're looking at me,
Speaker 1: that's for belvote. Yeah, I could hear that they passed
Speaker 1: on it. I don't think that. I don't think that
Speaker 1: it makes the time. Yes, but well look that's how
Speaker 1: God worked though. Man. I may look um are the
Speaker 1: queen Janet Jackson are siss? We made um slave for you?
Speaker 1: And she actually recorded it, but she just didn't use it.
Speaker 1: And when she didn't use it, we gave it to
Speaker 1: Britney Spears. Wow. So I've been blessed with a lot
Speaker 1: of that, where like artists did not feel like something
Speaker 1: was for them, but it made sense for someone else.
Speaker 1: Gave me Outlaw for Nas. Remember that crazy outlaw I've
Speaker 1: brung it to Nas, y'all And I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't get it. Yeah, remember, yes, actually made that for
Speaker 1: not Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you, bro, I don't know
Speaker 1: what happen my whole remember it because it was just crazy,
Speaker 1: because the crazy. It's crazy because I am such a
Speaker 1: I leaned forward so much that my chronology of things,
Speaker 1: like I told you, I thought maybe, like you know,
Speaker 1: Church to the Palace and Beautiful might have been on
Speaker 1: Um might have went on no limit and it was
Speaker 1: actually a priority. Sometimes I'll be I'll be mixing those
Speaker 1: things up. It wasn't the limit priority as well distributed
Speaker 1: it it was, it was, But I think they got smart.
Speaker 1: So that was one of my first my favorite. So
Speaker 1: did we finished the supertrug? I still want to know
Speaker 1: how that came to be? Did not? Thank you? So
Speaker 1: that time, at that time, we were still like we
Speaker 1: were making money, We were still making making music, you know,
Speaker 1: and Chad's moms and Chad's parents house. We still like,
Speaker 1: we just felt like I had a vibe in there,
Speaker 1: so we're going there and make new music. But they
Speaker 1: started getting too loud for his mom, and his mom
Speaker 1: was eventually starting to get six, so we had to
Speaker 1: like move up, you know, start just working purely in
Speaker 1: the studio. But there were times when we would go
Speaker 1: back in his mom's house and make music too, because
Speaker 1: we just felt like a big bottle of Man, do
Speaker 1: you mind you know this is that big because you
Speaker 1: were popping this big bottle? Yeah, listen, listen. Love the
Speaker 1: Big Bro. Loved the Big Bro, you know, you know
Speaker 1: the whole you know, he sent this personally, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He wanted you to get you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Goddamn it, I'm continuing stories. Wonderful um,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was Tammy was around. We was like
Speaker 1: making beats and stuff, and she would be there and
Speaker 1: sometimes she would hear things and she would sing on
Speaker 1: it and she heard that that what did you say
Speaker 1: it was at first? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Yes. Is the life y'all of a superstar?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, Well, no, Riega and the Philippines,
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, this is nigga, my dj
Speaker 1: it's fun to Philippines is ill. I was like whatever
Speaker 1: Google that was like he googled the nigger like it
Speaker 1: wasn't Google. I was like yo, he said yo. I
Speaker 1: felt obligated, so I wrote the whole rhyme. I came
Speaker 1: back the right track and I laid the whole ship.
Speaker 1: You know, the what what's is how I counted bars
Speaker 1: that was never meant to be the told me. I
Speaker 1: was like, what what what what? You know? You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that until like maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 1: You was like, listen, I remember laying because I didn't
Speaker 1: know how to punch in. You fucking young motherfucker's you
Speaker 1: your young motherfucker's with your punching. I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to punch in, bro, So I laid the whole ship,
Speaker 1: like straight, bro, I'm older than you though. By the way,
Speaker 1: seven damn godmn, you look at twenty seven. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this, goddam. By the way, this is the greatest,
Speaker 1: greatest session of my life. So that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I remember it. I don't remember sheh, but so I remember,
Speaker 1: and I just later I remember right track had the
Speaker 1: upstairs downstairs, so I think I ordered some food or
Speaker 1: something and you were just down there and I kept saying,
Speaker 1: you got I got the hook and he was like,
Speaker 1: I got the hook already. You would like just brushing
Speaker 1: me off. And I was like, alright, cool, I had
Speaker 1: no idea what you did with it. And I was
Speaker 1: just you just I just listened to you. It was
Speaker 1: just like fuck it. And I said, Yo, they're gonna
Speaker 1: laugh at me. And he said, this is your words.
Speaker 1: He said, and you're gonna laugh all the way to
Speaker 1: the bank. And I said, and you were right. And
Speaker 1: I had the number one record milbeb. He had much
Speaker 1: for Lil Bean the other day and he was like yo,
Speaker 1: bro like and he was telling me how he should
Speaker 1: have listened to me because I said yo. He was
Speaker 1: like he was saying, like he's like, yo, that sound
Speaker 1: at the time, like that's how they described the net
Speaker 1: tune sound at first, because I guess it was affiliated
Speaker 1: with me. They thinking you guys, because it's tough. They
Speaker 1: were saying, that's a dark sound, bro softest butter, I've
Speaker 1: never been a tough guy. But no, but you're right.
Speaker 1: There were times when people like yo, what's it'tn bro
Speaker 1: Little Wayne. Little Wayne took me around. We went to
Speaker 1: visit we were doing the show down there, and like
Speaker 1: he was a fan and he took us to UM
Speaker 1: this club down there and and it was the equivalent
Speaker 1: of being in d C. Like sometimes d C have
Speaker 1: you know what's what's what's what's what's bro name that?
Speaker 1: What's his name? Kevinn? What's his name? That do all
Speaker 1: the like d C clubs there he did dreams Mark
Speaker 1: Mark Barnes and why the said Kevin? So like they
Speaker 1: have like Mark, listen, love and respect to Mark Barnes.
Speaker 1: He has some of the craziest amazing clubs and venues
Speaker 1: that like life Life part took and with created at
Speaker 1: babies were made there um or at least initiated UM
Speaker 1: and and and and in in New Orleans, in Louisiana,
Speaker 1: there was like these clubs that were just as big,
Speaker 1: Like you go to a club that had three thousand
Speaker 1: people and Little Wayne took me the one and this
Speaker 1: was the most gangster shit. I mean, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of times where I was like in an environment, I
Speaker 1: lost my fucking mind, like and lead immediately like left
Speaker 1: the studio, like I mean left the club going, let's
Speaker 1: go make some music. Little Wayne took me to a
Speaker 1: place in New Orleans, Man and it was white teeth,
Speaker 1: white teeth, Central gold Tief, gold teeth everywhere, and you
Speaker 1: could just the guns were in the club. Bro, everybody
Speaker 1: had a gun. Bro. Like it could really it could
Speaker 1: have like it would have gone down. A lot of
Speaker 1: people would have got like like hit up and for me, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a tough guy, Bro, I I'm really I
Speaker 1: really believe in paying taxes because when you pay taxes,
Speaker 1: when you pay taxes, it's like you shouldn't feel no
Speaker 1: kind of way. Doling nine one one. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I'm saying that I'm like not tell
Speaker 1: the guy. Yo, listen, you think Steven Spielberg has many
Speaker 1: great movies he's ever made, or Standy Koprick. You think
Speaker 1: these guys are good fucking shots, the terrible shots, it's
Speaker 1: probably never been in the gun range. They can make
Speaker 1: the movie, right. I make the music because I'm inspired
Speaker 1: by it. Literally, we were were we the other night,
Speaker 1: we was we was at the Hit Factory. It was
Speaker 1: god yesterday they were shooting like four or five shots
Speaker 1: and ship well because that's in the so you know. So,
Speaker 1: so Kelly comes in, She's like, can I talk to
Speaker 1: you for a second winter session? He says, can I
Speaker 1: talk to you? Say like yeah, She's like yeah. So
Speaker 1: they're shooting in the parking lot. I'm leaving. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where then are you going on the shooting outside? You
Speaker 1: act like the sucking the uber or the lift is
Speaker 1: gonna pull up in the middle of the ship. But literally,
Speaker 1: I'm not a tough guy. I knew I'm staying my
Speaker 1: ass inside and the fucking FBI is on speed dial.
Speaker 1: Not a fucking tough guy. People say things about snitching.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking snitching. You know. Everybody plays their part. This
Speaker 1: is a movie, but you, guys, everybody plays the part
Speaker 1: guys snitching. This's doing nothing around me. I'm not doing
Speaker 1: for the nitching. Hey getting that out. Hey, I have
Speaker 1: a purpose. I have to be me. I have to
Speaker 1: do my job and I have to play my part
Speaker 1: in this movie. And my partner is I told you
Speaker 1: not to do that ship. I told you I wasn't
Speaker 1: built for this. I'm really sorry, but this is your deal,
Speaker 1: your honor. Jury are you guys are saying I asked
Speaker 1: him not to do this, and if he was gonna
Speaker 1: do it or she was gonna do it, don't fucking
Speaker 1: tell me, Well, you're civilian. You can get away with
Speaker 1: that one minute. The world everybody's everybody's not sucking nay
Speaker 1: five years in a condition you know you are not
Speaker 1: built for because you want to look tough. I am
Speaker 1: not fucking tough. You know, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to look like fucking free and having living my life.
Speaker 1: You get away with that totally. No street person in
Speaker 1: the world will be offended by saying that, because you're
Speaker 1: never claimed with tough. That's the problem. The problem is
Speaker 1: it's not people um that think like you. The problem
Speaker 1: is the people that that portrayed a certain image. You
Speaker 1: have never betrayed that image. So no one can ever
Speaker 1: be offended by that statement that you and how many
Speaker 1: people do you really know? Really right, and don't tell
Speaker 1: how many times y'all talk about y'all your friends is
Speaker 1: the hardest guy in the world. Motherfucker's like, it's a
Speaker 1: middle ground. There's a middle ground, but it's just how
Speaker 1: many just there's not just super gainst in telling there's
Speaker 1: a middle ground in there and you're here right now
Speaker 1: you're here right now. We're not we're not living against
Speaker 1: the life for not the perfect that. This is where
Speaker 1: we're at right here. This is guys who survived the street.
Speaker 1: Like what we're not telling you? But I mean, we're
Speaker 1: we're not involving ship. We're not involving that. We're not involving.
Speaker 1: We're not involving ship. Were not with nothing. We're good.
Speaker 1: We're good, good, hey man, when we play our taxes,
Speaker 1: I am a bicycle, not a four wheeler. Okay, I
Speaker 1: meant the ride, but there's only so much weight I
Speaker 1: can take, and there's only so much terrain I can take,
Speaker 1: and I can only go but so fast. I'm very
Speaker 1: clear on that. So let me switch the subject a
Speaker 1: little bit. You mentioned little Wayne, Little Wayne and put
Speaker 1: your teeth. Yeah, they had this discrepancy. Yeah, what was
Speaker 1: your stance on that? My stances. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: see that go that way? You know there was you know,
Speaker 1: um that didn't make me happy. I hate to see
Speaker 1: what him and Drake are going through, or what they
Speaker 1: went through. I hated to see all of it, every
Speaker 1: bit of it. It was never it wasn't it wasn't good.
Speaker 1: Drake's amazing and Drake is all powerful and he's so talented.
Speaker 1: Too far. You didn't push it with too far, you know,
Speaker 1: like I push it in and tell me because he
Speaker 1: knows I would have, you know, stood in front of
Speaker 1: him as much as I could. But he's a different
Speaker 1: kind of person. He's a tourist, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And tourist people. I don't know if there's anybody out
Speaker 1: there right now, but tourists April April. My daughter's a tourist,
Speaker 1: right So when you and when you feel like a
Speaker 1: line is crossed and you take off the gloves, that's
Speaker 1: just where your brain is at, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Where's Drake is a scorpio? And they never forget. And
Speaker 1: that's in the December, Yeah, like it was. It's just
Speaker 1: the worst combination of two people who are very pure
Speaker 1: and very loyal to the people that they love. And
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you you could do what happened to
Speaker 1: that boy? What push the t bird man? And when yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want that man. I didn't I
Speaker 1: It's still it still breaks my heart to this day
Speaker 1: because I would have loved to have heard those guys
Speaker 1: on a song together. Or heard a joint project together.
Speaker 1: You know, push it in Wayne or push your Drake,
Speaker 1: push it right. I would have loved to have seen
Speaker 1: that have been singing and push your hitting the balls whatever.
Speaker 1: And Drake, Drake got bars, bro, Drake got by the way,
Speaker 1: push your says, Drake got bars. Yeah. When Drake makes
Speaker 1: something that's amazing. We talked about it all the time.
Speaker 1: When something's a it's amazing, it ain't that. It ain't that,
Speaker 1: it's just that pushes up really tonicship relationship with Drake, like, um,
Speaker 1: has it affected it in any way? I mean we've
Speaker 1: talked several times. I love Drake, I mean even in
Speaker 1: the middle of all that stuff, like he would like
Speaker 1: he like he's said super nice and kind things to
Speaker 1: me on the d M and and and in public.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Drake doesn't. Neither one of them
Speaker 1: are into problems. They don't like it, like it's unnecessary.
Speaker 1: But they're both people who, like, you know, when when
Speaker 1: when they feel like they're being pushed to a limit,
Speaker 1: they gotta do what they gotta do. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's all good. I um, that didn't you know that
Speaker 1: didn't I wasn't happy about that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Um and I and and man, I talked to Push
Speaker 1: all all the time, like he's he's really a good guy.
Speaker 1: It's just in his mind. He just felt like when
Speaker 1: the gloves come off, gloves came off because he mentioned
Speaker 1: this girl, right that, Yeah, that was like that was
Speaker 1: a different kind of line. And by the way, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would have you know, if Drake had
Speaker 1: a girl and they were as serious, I'm sure Drake
Speaker 1: would have felt the same way. But again, it's like
Speaker 1: that's the thing with rap, like you know, there's there
Speaker 1: should be rules, but there's kind of no rules, and
Speaker 1: people will do and say anything. Man, the stuff that
Speaker 1: Big and Pop went through, and he had a Dida's
Speaker 1: deal because like I know, like you Big and Adidas
Speaker 1: as well, Right, Drake had Adida's deal and Push the
Speaker 1: Teak got him up out of there. He did, he
Speaker 1: did had he did have a deal there. But again,
Speaker 1: all of this was unbeknownst to me, Like Drake told
Speaker 1: me that he had a situation there, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know that any of this would ever come up, you know,
Speaker 1: and I like I would never I didn't want to
Speaker 1: see this, man. I didn't want to see this. I
Speaker 1: just think that they're super too, super talented guys that man.
Speaker 1: You know, black people and especially black men, we haven't
Speaker 1: had it so easy in this country and even in Canada,
Speaker 1: like it's not been so easy for black men there,
Speaker 1: and when you think about where this country is going,
Speaker 1: like seventy one million people did not like the turnout
Speaker 1: of this election, and they were all complicit and cool
Speaker 1: with a lot of the things that happened because they
Speaker 1: voted for it again. And um, I gotta give my
Speaker 1: respect just as a citizen, I'm supposed to respect, you know,
Speaker 1: the the current administration because they are the leaders of
Speaker 1: the free world. I don't agree with a lot of
Speaker 1: things that they say. I don't agree with a lot
Speaker 1: of the policies, and a lot of that has come
Speaker 1: down on, you know, on black males. And yes, you
Speaker 1: know they have been you know, um, they have been
Speaker 1: you know, reversing uh sentences and pardoning and doing all
Speaker 1: these things. I know, Kim was a very it was
Speaker 1: a very played the very intricral part of that. But
Speaker 1: I don't give a fun man. We are an endangered
Speaker 1: species black men. Bro. So it's like when you see
Speaker 1: two people who are so fucking powerful. And you see
Speaker 1: men that look like Drake die or be paralyzed with
Speaker 1: with police bullets in their back, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Or you see black men that look like Pusha who
Speaker 1: die with police bullets or dying just in general, just
Speaker 1: from like the the very dark forces of racism in
Speaker 1: this country. My only thing is to say, you guys,
Speaker 1: you guys are both live in great lives. And sure
Speaker 1: there's been some overstepping on both parts. I'll say, man, like,
Speaker 1: we better than this, and we gotta we gotta we
Speaker 1: we too. Zoom in right now, bro, we need to
Speaker 1: zoom out. We need to zoom out and see the
Speaker 1: bigger picture we we need We're stronger together. And and
Speaker 1: and I and I've wanted to do that, but it's
Speaker 1: not something that I can do. I mean, record you
Speaker 1: produce it. What do you mean? I'd be so honored.
Speaker 1: I do I do whatever for that, I do whatever
Speaker 1: I want that to be. I wish that that did
Speaker 1: not exist. You know what I'm saying, this didn't exist.
Speaker 1: I wish all of it just it was never It
Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't good for anyone. It was literally both
Speaker 1: of them, like feeling like, no, I'm not backing down,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, why should I back down?
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, you guys are you. Guys are
Speaker 1: bigger than you. Guys are bigger than this issue. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, Drake is arguably one
Speaker 1: of the biggest. No, he is the biggest artist right now,
Speaker 1: He's the biggest you know what I'm saying. And Pusher
Speaker 1: is like one of those guys that like he continues
Speaker 1: to up his ship like lyrically, people know he's the
Speaker 1: most he's one of the most respected lyrically, and like
Speaker 1: by the way he's consistent with what it is that
Speaker 1: he does. He just continues, like it seems like he's
Speaker 1: getting better and better and better. I just that would
Speaker 1: be the greatest thing for me. I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: come on here to talk about that necessarily, but man,
Speaker 1: this is hip hop. We just were just so much
Speaker 1: bigger and better than that. Man, And we need your
Speaker 1: opinion too, because people don't get your opinion. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I stay quiet on all of us. I
Speaker 1: tried to stay out of ship. Are we taking onto
Speaker 1: the show of Purple Rain? Let's taken on the shot
Speaker 1: of purple rain purples? Yes, please, we have legendary print
Speaker 1: stories here. Drink? Did he float the purple? Purple smoke
Speaker 1: every time? Prince, We're so cool. I've tried for years
Speaker 1: to make records for him. My first attempt at making
Speaker 1: a record with him for him, Uh, UM's fronting frighten
Speaker 1: was Prince, that's crazy. I'm finally figured this out. How
Speaker 1: far did that go? He didn't. He didn't want it,
Speaker 1: so he didn't even take it all right, tom On,
Speaker 1: did he hear the whole front? He heard? Um? I
Speaker 1: think he heard the melodies and again it's been so long,
Speaker 1: he might have heard the hook and maybe the melodies
Speaker 1: for the verse or whatever it was. When I finished
Speaker 1: the verses, No, I think I wrote a different version
Speaker 1: of it a little bit for him, and uh he
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't into it. It's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite real records of man. That was me pretending to
Speaker 1: be him. Really, Yeah, you got me my all of
Speaker 1: my I'm telling all of my you go see you
Speaker 1: all right? So you was trying to that's your Prince
Speaker 1: in person that I was trying to, just the one
Speaker 1: good I thought would have been good for him at
Speaker 1: that time, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, nah,
Speaker 1: but we did do either for it or after that. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the chronology drunk facts. We got drunk facts here. Uh,
Speaker 1: don't fire me, Richard mill Um, but my time is off. Um.
Speaker 1: So you've got that at one point five Richard mill
Speaker 1: On too. We'll get to that later. Were watching me,
Speaker 1: watching only but only dude, I know that you wouldn't hope.
Speaker 1: I think it's the only dude, I know what they
Speaker 1: only your mill But we'll give me that later. So
Speaker 1: so that one, I just felt like we did all
Speaker 1: this other one the remix called the greatest story that's
Speaker 1: ever been told. I think that might have been before.
Speaker 1: And then I tried to set then I tried to
Speaker 1: like make frightened for him, and he just was like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know we heard back. The answer was
Speaker 1: just no, I could hear him now that I think about,
Speaker 1: I could hear him on that, and that would have
Speaker 1: been incredible, dude, d yeah, that would have been I
Speaker 1: was like trying, that's why they're brown. Thank thank bang,
Speaker 1: thank thank thank thank But he wasn't into it. Michael
Speaker 1: Michael Michael turned us down because that's my next day,
Speaker 1: back to back Prince Michael. But they both turned us down.
Speaker 1: They were like, that's the second Remember I told you
Speaker 1: top ten phone calls in my whole life A second
Speaker 1: top ten is this is after you tell me they're
Speaker 1: doing cheers whatever. Alright, cool, it's really really blown now,
Speaker 1: oh no drops, And now I'm like elegant to a
Speaker 1: certain extent. People like Hype Williams video video. Right. That
Speaker 1: was where that was where whenever anything it was hot,
Speaker 1: we'd be like, remember that time. That was a different era.
Speaker 1: So you hit me and said, yo, I just said
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson some beats. I'm like, I'm like, like, I
Speaker 1: didn't understand this talk because I'm like, damn, I'm not
Speaker 1: no Michael Jackson ever at all. So I'm like, where
Speaker 1: you said to me? He told we, Nope, I don't
Speaker 1: think nor we will rhyme on that. I was like,
Speaker 1: my life is done. Yo. John mcclaim was his manager
Speaker 1: at the time. We sat him pretty much all the
Speaker 1: stuff you guys are hearing on the first Justified album.
Speaker 1: That's all the Michael stuff to justin Justin Timberla, Oh, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, all but one song. They were all written
Speaker 1: for uh Michael. Whatever of Michael's is. Remember the time
Speaker 1: era this is right at the super colg right, you
Speaker 1: robbed My World right before that and m and John
Speaker 1: McClain was like, man, Michael, don't want that ship. They
Speaker 1: want the ship that you're giving Nora. I'm like, immediately
Speaker 1: thought of Michael with the crypts in the blood picture.
Speaker 1: I don't know, no bosh it. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: he wanted that super thug. You know it wasn't other
Speaker 1: one y'all just did I would have been a crazy Michael.
Speaker 1: Remember where I called me? I was like, because I
Speaker 1: haven't really like I'm still a kid. I'm twenty maybe one.
Speaker 1: When he said that to me, It's like, yo, Michael
Speaker 1: told me I've been you said maybe the manager. He said,
Speaker 1: they want this ship that would no where we wrong
Speaker 1: on And I was sitting back like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I hung up the phone because in my mind it
Speaker 1: was a flip star Tech. So I hung up and
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund did? I just here
Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to assess that. And Farrell
Speaker 1: was telling me, no, I couldn't make wreck music for Michael.
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep you in mind, like something he
Speaker 1: would rhyme too, and I was just I was blown away.
Speaker 1: That's that's my top like Biggie called me before he
Speaker 1: passed away. So this is my top ten. Did Biggie
Speaker 1: say he wanted to r and yo? Yeah? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: It was crazy and what happened? What happened? Why? Why
Speaker 1: did it not happen? He was in l A when
Speaker 1: he called me, so you know, you know how God
Speaker 1: blessed that rest of the biggest smalls. But on that
Speaker 1: l A trip he had called me toking. Um. So
Speaker 1: this is my top ten calls on my whole life.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write him down. I don't write him down.
Speaker 1: IM gonna make a book my top but first of all,
Speaker 1: you have to do a book and you and it
Speaker 1: has to be my top ten calls, top ten calls.
Speaker 1: I think. I think I'm gonna make down a book.
Speaker 1: This is listen listen, and you have to be so
Speaker 1: vivid about these stories. Just your brother, you know, this
Speaker 1: is what I do okay with with the Michael Jackson story,
Speaker 1: I know, but hold on a second, let him produce.
Speaker 1: You brother, I've always my whole life got there, you know,
Speaker 1: like like it has to be ten calls. By the way,
Speaker 1: any any of the publishers that are listening to this,
Speaker 1: and let's the good ones come on, come out of
Speaker 1: the water works. This is amazing. It's super colorful because
Speaker 1: those calls are fucking crazy. Yo, fucking yo, notorious b
Speaker 1: I G wanted to get on and you know, my
Speaker 1: dumb ass bl I'm sitting there thinking my shirt is bootleg,
Speaker 1: so I'm like because it wasn't out, so I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: but I forgot nat Iris, who produced it, was worth
Speaker 1: a bad boy, so he played it for Biggie exclusively.
Speaker 1: Does anyone know how incredible nice Sheen Marix was it is?
Speaker 1: Does anyone know that Nashi Marix? Do you all understand
Speaker 1: what he did with Queen Bitch? Do you all understand
Speaker 1: Nashin Marix, brother, I think I've met you one time.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, you are absolutely a periodic inspiration.
Speaker 1: What you do and what you've done with so many
Speaker 1: songs has moved me. Chad pusha fam like you don't
Speaker 1: even understand. You know how many people got shot to
Speaker 1: Queen Beich, to Queen Bitch because no bullshit. Listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody to get shot. But I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you as a fan from a Stanley Kubrick Steven
Speaker 1: Spielberg perspective on the movie A bro Possess, how many
Speaker 1: times somebody got shot? To Queen Bread, to queen bitch?
Speaker 1: Are you here? Bla bla blackap You don't understand what
Speaker 1: they did two D the Norfolk Enforcement. You don't understand
Speaker 1: some of the most you listen. I know New York
Speaker 1: got guns, but you don't understand. We're listening in Virginia.
Speaker 1: They senselessly kill. It's a very different thing, you know.
Speaker 1: They just jealousy and envy. Envy from a distance was
Speaker 1: enough for you to get shot at. And that's not
Speaker 1: something that I was into because I was done. However,
Speaker 1: and the closest to the closest to the exit with
Speaker 1: my old g is going, are you good? They're not.
Speaker 1: They know not to do that dumb ship over here,
Speaker 1: shout all the like, all of my own g's, all
Speaker 1: of all the back one like them. They're like those
Speaker 1: guys were like deities walking around like Apollo and fucking
Speaker 1: they were different. However, shout that purple rain, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: shook one's blood. Money when number records came on in Virginia. Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand how to really communicate
Speaker 1: that to y'all. And nashe Marix was one of those guys,
Speaker 1: those beats that he would make. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the funk would possess this guy to put some of
Speaker 1: those baselines down to some of those samples. But man, listen,
Speaker 1: I take my hat off to you, brother. You are
Speaker 1: fucking different, and I encourage all young producers. It's not
Speaker 1: trapped music, it's not rap music up today. It's from
Speaker 1: a different era. And I'm telling you right now it
Speaker 1: incited riots. We're done. Go ahead, biggie. You wanted to
Speaker 1: be a biggie, wanted to be in be on T
Speaker 1: O n Y. That is like, oh my god. So
Speaker 1: this is from Charlemagne direct right, he said. I always
Speaker 1: wonder if in his mind did he ever compete with
Speaker 1: Timberland since they vote from Virginia, Like, was it ever
Speaker 1: like a competition? At one point I did think y'all
Speaker 1: was in competition. Timberland has always been better than me,
Speaker 1: and I feel sound wise it was a whole different lane.
Speaker 1: Timberland has always been better than me. Period. Timberland did
Speaker 1: like he four feet that's the respect that you have.
Speaker 1: Come on, Timberland. Timberland didn't he to be the guys,
Speaker 1: you guys, let's stop. Timberland did four page letter. Timberland
Speaker 1: did what are we talking about? It's just it's it,
Speaker 1: it's over. What is jigger man? Trigger man? Hit your
Speaker 1: van up. I'm gonna stop right then, come on, I'm
Speaker 1: beat anything on you on versus again? No man again
Speaker 1: city for anybody? Would you ever think about doing the verse? Never?
Speaker 1: Never know, because that's just it's not my thing. I
Speaker 1: love watching them, but I just like I would get
Speaker 1: in my own way. I stopped playing ship. I see
Speaker 1: like I play your records. You just you just it
Speaker 1: just wouldn't be the right look for it. But I've
Speaker 1: seen your comedies at you with like it's like like
Speaker 1: it's like back right, they say back, and he got
Speaker 1: baract the nigga speaker, right. So then the guy he
Speaker 1: says with Barrack says, and then it's the guy that says, well,
Speaker 1: I would I would like to be your nigga speaker
Speaker 1: at that night you say something cool cool, humble ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what do he means this? I get
Speaker 1: fun with this right, I'm telling me, I don't be
Speaker 1: like they listen to me. Bro, Holy moly, nobody can't
Speaker 1: your broom. I don't fry Timper. I mean speaking because
Speaker 1: I don't want to say nigga no more. I don't
Speaker 1: want to say that. Timber the king, Bro, Timber the King,
Speaker 1: Timber the King. All right, so would you pop out Kan? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You on Kan yea in Verson. That's your little man.
Speaker 1: Kanye is amazing. Bro. You wouldn't have that. I don't listen.
Speaker 1: I know my job, Bro. I'm not a boxer. I'm
Speaker 1: a trainer and and and at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: like you know, because I was I'm lucky to be
Speaker 1: able to throw a couple of shots and get a
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of belts. I'm very grateful. But
Speaker 1: this is not my fight, Like, it's just not my thing.
Speaker 1: How you can say that, I can't say that. They
Speaker 1: won't let me. They're trying to make me battle everybody. Well,
Speaker 1: how can you can say that? And you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just I just I know my place,
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jackson with that, No, No, I know
Speaker 1: my place. I will say this. I will say that
Speaker 1: you know I wasn't. I wasn't sure of what to
Speaker 1: expect here. I know I have a loving respect for
Speaker 1: your show, and I had such a I'm having such
Speaker 1: a great time. Man. Another shot of purple rate brand. Man.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know, man, our show is
Speaker 1: about saluting O. I see it. Legends, I see it.
Speaker 1: You know when they people got ten years and more,
Speaker 1: they say this over right now, you know there's this
Speaker 1: new young producers. Salute this new young producers. You don't
Speaker 1: feel like that. So I also think that you should
Speaker 1: have a partnership with a florist. So all the florist,
Speaker 1: what we need flowers, All the florists that are out there.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different brands, a lot of different versions,
Speaker 1: and a lot of different places coming from different places.
Speaker 1: Like there should be a Drink Champs like addition of flowers,
Speaker 1: because that's all these guys are doing and giving people
Speaker 1: their flowers that so you know, you need that. You
Speaker 1: you need to you need to call, write, email, do
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do to connect with these guys.
Speaker 1: And there should be a Drink Champs florist. And I'm
Speaker 1: just saying people will order, people will order from here,
Speaker 1: just because they want to be supportive of of of
Speaker 1: black and Latin X entrepreneurs like and they'd be very
Speaker 1: supportive of what you do because you do this on
Speaker 1: your podcast, like you said, you said, Yo, we like
Speaker 1: this is a show about giving people their flowers and
Speaker 1: ship right, so you should have that merchandise. They have flowers.
Speaker 1: You should actually have flowers. Were gonna have a girl
Speaker 1: give it to you because I feel uncomfortable giving you
Speaker 1: flowers right now. I'm telling you see the kind of
Speaker 1: money that you can make a right brother, I don't
Speaker 1: tell you something. Not only that, you also had the
Speaker 1: most disrespectful jury in the game. At one point. You
Speaker 1: would like to Eric be a rock Kim off the
Speaker 1: new producers like like you like, you know serious, Let's
Speaker 1: keep it real, Let's keep it real, Let's keep it
Speaker 1: brute diamonds. I didn't even know what that meant. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know. We just love it. Was like, let's
Speaker 1: talk about your jewelry game for one, Why are you
Speaker 1: really getting into it right now? Why not so jewelry wise?
Speaker 1: I um, I was what the fund is that? So
Speaker 1: what it's a mix of what and what? It's imagine
Speaker 1: a bloody Mary beer drink. Got it? That's my line. Okay,
Speaker 1: say again, everybody ever you listen. We know almost every
Speaker 1: company here. This is what this is. We all the
Speaker 1: fooboo of the media. Everything is yes, yes, And the book,
Speaker 1: the book, and the book is important. The book is
Speaker 1: important to the legacy. The book is important to the legacy.
Speaker 1: And the florest isn't it is important to the future.
Speaker 1: Like that, like the fact that you guys literally give
Speaker 1: people that we have to do. Man, that's what we
Speaker 1: have to do. Come on there, there's some flock and
Speaker 1: feel it right now, there's some some florist that's gonna
Speaker 1: contact you. Guys would be happy to be y'all's partners.
Speaker 1: And you pick them all out. God damn, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I must see you the pictures. You tell
Speaker 1: me which was to go with? When you start thinking
Speaker 1: about that, when you realize a kind of money for
Speaker 1: the make right now, you're gonna be very clear on
Speaker 1: what colors you want to pick. Good. So, wait, where
Speaker 1: where are we right now? Because because the purple rain
Speaker 1: is kicking out, we might need to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Purple rain, Okay, jewelry wise, jewelry rain, serious, bro so
Speaker 1: so jewelry wise, Um, I've you know, I would have
Speaker 1: my like I would have like my inspiration like some sounds,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you know what, you know, something as
Speaker 1: simple as a monopoly Um, thank you. Something that's simple
Speaker 1: as like a monopoly piece. I'm like, yo, I want
Speaker 1: to do this, So I want to do that, right
Speaker 1: I did never did that, but at the time I
Speaker 1: was thinking that way, or like when I was going
Speaker 1: through like my jury motions, I was also dealing with cars,
Speaker 1: so I would say, Yo, I want to do SpongeBob.
Speaker 1: That's what made him start doing SpongeBob. I want to
Speaker 1: do Smurfs. That's what had him doing Smurfs. Now he
Speaker 1: was an incredible artist on his own. He did something
Speaker 1: called the Kimpson's And it was at that same time
Speaker 1: that a sense of self discovery, that you realize that
Speaker 1: you could just have your own ideas and go in
Speaker 1: there and not just have to settle for whatever Tito
Speaker 1: was giving you, because I used to go to We
Speaker 1: used to go to Tito shout to listen to miss
Speaker 1: you love you brother every time he saw faces Man,
Speaker 1: and then and then there was and then I went
Speaker 1: to Then I went to Jacob and then like everything changed,
Speaker 1: and then I met Lorraine, So I you know, I
Speaker 1: stayed very very very loyal to Jacob and Lorraine. And Okay,
Speaker 1: who's Loine. That's another Lorraine Schwartz. Yeah, she's she's she's great,
Speaker 1: she's great. I have be happy to introduce you to her.
Speaker 1: So Lorraine is like Lizabeth Taylor, like you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like that, kind of like those kind
Speaker 1: of levels. Um, she did Kim's ring, she did these rings,
Speaker 1: she did my wife's ring. You know, we was early
Speaker 1: on the rain, like we you know, I'm very loyal
Speaker 1: to the people I partner with, whether it's a Dida's Lorraine,
Speaker 1: whoever it is, I'm turning the lights on, I'm turning
Speaker 1: everybody onto them. Um. And so jewelry wise, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to express myself, like you know what, I'm from
Speaker 1: any r D And you guys can keep getting fucking crosses.
Speaker 1: I've done that, but we're gonna do something else. And
Speaker 1: so there was this one moment colorful. There was one
Speaker 1: moment we went to the BT Awards. I don't know
Speaker 1: what year it was, but for a surprise, Stephen Hill
Speaker 1: brought on Slick Rick was Dougie Fresh on there with
Speaker 1: him too. At the first was Douggie Fresh on there
Speaker 1: with him as well? At first, I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: think he might have been. And if he's not, my apologies,
Speaker 1: because Dougie is every fucking thing and they got gotta dance.
Speaker 1: Years later, he's everything. Slick Rick was on there with
Speaker 1: a short suit, meaning a suit with shorts right, burgundy
Speaker 1: with Burgundy Clark's on m and his jewelry and I
Speaker 1: am seen on the b T. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was a BT Awards it or if it
Speaker 1: was the BT Hip Hop Awards. I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: can't remember. And he had on all that jewelry. And
Speaker 1: I called Jacob that night. I said, listen to me, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is in full transparency. There was no big Cuban
Speaker 1: links before this. He had on a cuban and I
Speaker 1: thought about some of the stuff that he didn't have
Speaker 1: one that night that I've always loved. And I called Jacob.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, we're doing three chains. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: a bigger Cuban than you've ever seen, and the Gucci
Speaker 1: link and then we're gonna do a much bigger Cuban
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna do a Gucci link. But the
Speaker 1: difference is I'm doing them in white gold and they're
Speaker 1: all gonna be pavede. There was no pavade cubanstinum, no platinum.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to lift my don know.
Speaker 1: That is like lots of diamonds, like you know when
Speaker 1: you see teeth, they're pavede, like paved, but paved. And
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, we're do wing. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: all sugar coated, basically paved. So pave Cuban link, paved
Speaker 1: smaller Cuban link, pavede uh Gucci link. And the first
Speaker 1: one is going to be of the one that I
Speaker 1: dout forget the Saints name that's on the crutch. That
Speaker 1: was okay, that was me imitating slick Rick full on,
Speaker 1: and I only wore it for a little bit and
Speaker 1: after a while I realized, okay, this is too slick Rick,
Speaker 1: and I gave it to Nigo that I replaced that
Speaker 1: with something that with with the BBC helmet, all all
Speaker 1: pavede out three D and then I did the one
Speaker 1: of ny R D but in the bait characters all
Speaker 1: in the color coded stones and then there was like
Speaker 1: one more and I can't remember what it was, but
Speaker 1: either way, then I got the bracelet that was an
Speaker 1: homage to slick Rick bro that was like, slick Rick,
Speaker 1: You're the King, You're the King, and you know I
Speaker 1: love slick Ricks so much. When he came home day
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want you to go in with
Speaker 1: a stick and I was like, what are you crazy?
Speaker 1: I'm doing for fucking free. What do you mean, it's
Speaker 1: fucking slick Rick. My brothers and I. All we did
Speaker 1: was right around and listen to that, you know, the
Speaker 1: adventures of slick Rick's story, like what that whole ship
Speaker 1: mona Lisa hang on record in the world. Just so
Speaker 1: you guys understand. I got my first role when I
Speaker 1: first got my first rolls, boys, I wrote a down
Speaker 1: in Virginia with some white models from New York. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you guys caught a coming to Virginia
Speaker 1: with me, and let's just drop a fucking round and
Speaker 1: slow motion with the hazard lights on. And I made
Speaker 1: them listen to that. They had never heard of it
Speaker 1: than their life, but you guys have to understand what
Speaker 1: this is. By the end of the night, they were
Speaker 1: all singing in the world that the songs together, it
Speaker 1: was great. Still Poppy is got them and keep talking
Speaker 1: that ship. So so when I when I made that jewelry,
Speaker 1: was like, that was everything. I'll never forget. The first
Speaker 1: time I unveil it, we did drop it like we
Speaker 1: played drop it like it's hot for the first time
Speaker 1: in the Staples Center and it was so many gangs
Speaker 1: in there that I was like, yo, are we really
Speaker 1: going out there? And Snoop was like, nah, pe, they
Speaker 1: love us, and like Bloods was in there and he
Speaker 1: saw first of all. That's when I realized it was
Speaker 1: more than one crip. And I thought it was just
Speaker 1: like Bloods and the crips, it's more than one of
Speaker 1: all of that. There was like the Grape Street Crips.
Speaker 1: They were in purple. I was like what. Then they
Speaker 1: were in purple. Then there was another group there was
Speaker 1: We're in green. I mean like there were so many
Speaker 1: of them. They were throwing signs and ship and we
Speaker 1: played dropping like inside and he was like go ahead,
Speaker 1: p and I unzipped the ship and you know, had
Speaker 1: my moment, what did you have on a bunch of
Speaker 1: babe stuff? I was it was baked at the time
Speaker 1: Nego still owned Babe, he hadn't sold it yet, and
Speaker 1: M yeah so bait yeah a long time ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh not my brother and not the general. So I
Speaker 1: don't wear it. I ain't. I ain't want babe and
Speaker 1: ship since I wait, I didn't know that. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you know, no disrespect to them or whatever, but it
Speaker 1: ain't Nego me and Nego is human made. Remember the
Speaker 1: first you gave me a pair of babes, they were
Speaker 1: like like brown Swede collectors items. Right now, I ain't
Speaker 1: got it, but let me just tell you how much
Speaker 1: I wore them ships in my hood. They joked on
Speaker 1: me the first pair like this is before no one had.
Speaker 1: You gave me a pair and I wore him in
Speaker 1: my hood And I was like yo, and I kept
Speaker 1: saying they hunting people like those is fake up doll,
Speaker 1: like this is bait man, And they're like, yo, those
Speaker 1: this weak, Yo, what the fun are you doing? Like Yo,
Speaker 1: this is for felling them sneaker. This is gonna blow yo.
Speaker 1: They baked on me I'm talking about I was just
Speaker 1: they were just laughing at me, and I just said
Speaker 1: fuck it. I rolled with it. And now all the
Speaker 1: dudes like you're my bad. Yeah, that's that's Nigo Bro.
Speaker 1: Nigo Nigo is you know, and and you know we
Speaker 1: talk about like us and rap music and like, you know,
Speaker 1: that culture. You know, part of that time. What made
Speaker 1: you even wanted to get into that type of world
Speaker 1: because you already dominated. So you asked me about the jewelry.
Speaker 1: J By the way, I had a whole of the
Speaker 1: lifetime after the big jewelry. That's when we just started
Speaker 1: getting them more sophisticated, like just thinking about things a
Speaker 1: little bit differently. Yeah, I see your your whole risks
Speaker 1: just difference. Is that a Cardier blast it made for
Speaker 1: you for Cardia? This is Nigga. Nigga made this. This
Speaker 1: is a human maid. This is a human maid bracelet
Speaker 1: like Cardier, Yes, sir, Yeah, elsewhere. And that's Cactus plan
Speaker 1: She's Cactus Yeah, yeah, Captain Planning. She got she's over
Speaker 1: with Nike as well. She's something else. So he's a
Speaker 1: crazy thing. So Jacob, you asked me about the jury.
Speaker 1: So Jacob called me. He said, you know, I got
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, he likes your stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, good good, good, good, good client.
Speaker 1: He's a good client. You know, he's from Japan. You
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't know this guy, and mego, he's
Speaker 1: fucking reach. He's you know, he's got this company used
Speaker 1: to check it out. Jacob was the one that introduced
Speaker 1: me to Nigo and Bait because Nego kept coming to
Speaker 1: New York. Go and listen, you're making jury for this guy.
Speaker 1: You made him this Cuban link. You made this for
Speaker 1: him in yellow. I wanted in yellow, and then I
Speaker 1: wanted in rows, and then I wanted in white, and
Speaker 1: everything that I got for a couple of years before
Speaker 1: Nigo met me, he would get everything that I got
Speaker 1: in in different versions, one in rows, one in yellow,
Speaker 1: and one in white. And Jacob was like, look, look,
Speaker 1: you don't believe me. He pulled at his desk, he
Speaker 1: opened the drawers and they showed me the photos of
Speaker 1: me and the jury, that jury, the jury that Jacob
Speaker 1: had made for me. And Nego was a fan. She said,
Speaker 1: I have this because he asked for the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy. You gotta meet this guy, trust me,
Speaker 1: just do me a favor. So Lloyd knew him as
Speaker 1: well because when Lloyd went out there with Calise when
Speaker 1: he was like road managing her, they went over to
Speaker 1: Nego and they met Neigo to send the other So
Speaker 1: I needed a studio to do something. When I was
Speaker 1: out there, and Jacob kept going, Yo, you need to
Speaker 1: go sit with this guy. He's a fan of yours.
Speaker 1: So when I went to Neigo's office where his studio was,
Speaker 1: he he had an office that had a showroom, production
Speaker 1: room for clothes and sneakers, and then like in Italia,
Speaker 1: and then he also had a showroom and below that
Speaker 1: was the studio. He was like, Yo, you need a studio,
Speaker 1: Come use my studio. So I used the studio. I
Speaker 1: got done doing I needed to do at one upstairs,
Speaker 1: and I saw all these bib stairs that kind of
Speaker 1: looked like ups down up towns in a in a
Speaker 1: a in a way. But the color ways was so
Speaker 1: fucking crazy and literally, like, let's say, so those first babes,
Speaker 1: they was already made as you as you saw. I
Speaker 1: walked in the showroom and then I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: sample size. I'm a nine nine, nine and a half.
Speaker 1: So let's say there's three colors here and there's not,
Speaker 1: but let's say there is green, white, and beige. He
Speaker 1: would have a babe that was green white, and beige.
Speaker 1: But then he would have it where the colors were reversed,
Speaker 1: so literally each colorway he would do twice and just
Speaker 1: reverse where they were. And I walked down there and
Speaker 1: I was like, this motherfucker's a genius. I've never seen
Speaker 1: nobody do that, because really, right now, if you think
Speaker 1: about a sneaker drop right, you see a color away,
Speaker 1: it's one pair. What if the toe box and the
Speaker 1: heel switched the colors, but it's the same three colors
Speaker 1: but just rearranged. When I saw he did that, I say, hey,
Speaker 1: hey man, who are you who? I just want to
Speaker 1: learn from you and he was like no, like I
Speaker 1: help you. And then that's when we did BBC together,
Speaker 1: and that's when we did ice cream together, and everything changed.
Speaker 1: And that changed my life because at that point I
Speaker 1: was only thinking about the beat. The beat was my
Speaker 1: only concern. Then are the beat in the in the
Speaker 1: songs were my only concern? Then I realized that like
Speaker 1: there's beats, there's music, and then there's merch, and then
Speaker 1: there's like clothes. And he really opened me up. He
Speaker 1: really really really really made me look at things very differently,
Speaker 1: and I saw that this guy's imagination had no bounds.
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized that like, not only I
Speaker 1: could do this, but like the kids that we see today,
Speaker 1: they're doing it. But that's when I realized that that
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I was like, because if I see this,
Speaker 1: they're gonna see it, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that that, like that like changed everything. And I mean
Speaker 1: he was different, this guy. Like some people put their
Speaker 1: ship in the safe. This guy when I went to
Speaker 1: his house and like his apartment, he had like a
Speaker 1: big Mac toolbox that that they use when they're like
Speaker 1: service in in the pit stop of like a formula one.
Speaker 1: You know those big toolboxes with the wheels on it,
Speaker 1: and ship, you know the big blue toolbox that was
Speaker 1: like you had trades and ship. Motherfucker had his jewelry
Speaker 1: in there with lights like he was. He blew my mind.
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, oh, I'm never I'm
Speaker 1: never going the other way like I am. We we
Speaker 1: have the ability to do whatever the funk we want.
Speaker 1: That's like, you're gonna do this book like you guys
Speaker 1: will mark this day we are? We is this December? Right?
Speaker 1: This is December? Someone up. There's so many publishers have
Speaker 1: heard of this, and some of the young scouts have
Speaker 1: heard this. You're gonna do this book, and there's a
Speaker 1: florist or botanist has heard this interview and they're gonna
Speaker 1: do this with you. Right, you're gonna text me a
Speaker 1: all me. By the way, You're not only gonna text
Speaker 1: me or call me. But do you guys, do you
Speaker 1: guys get the positive asks for affirmations that I get
Speaker 1: from this man, Yo, this ube. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: something I would be Listen. I'll be caught up in
Speaker 1: so many things that I'm doing and I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk where I am in the world. Or if
Speaker 1: you look at this last you know, twelve to twelve
Speaker 1: to let's call it twelve to fourteen, fifteen months of
Speaker 1: like what we've been going through with COVID because some
Speaker 1: of us knew earlier than others. Um this man relentlessly.
Speaker 1: If not every week, every two weeks, if not every
Speaker 1: two weeks, every three weeks, but then after that third week,
Speaker 1: it might be three three consecutive weeks. This man will
Speaker 1: hit me. Just say hey, positive vibes, and let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. God is a is a reciprocal god.
Speaker 1: This universe. This universe is a reciprocal universe, and you
Speaker 1: have no idea. When you send me those positive affirmations
Speaker 1: and those positive words, you need to know it's coming
Speaker 1: back to So it don't mean none of us. You
Speaker 1: sip to it, and I'll just tell you that, man,
Speaker 1: I was coming back to you, broa because I loved
Speaker 1: I love it, because we live such a beautiful life.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. You know, what we've been through,
Speaker 1: like the fact that we're surviving and we're alive during
Speaker 1: this crazy times that we're going through. Is that's the
Speaker 1: what we should be spreading. And it's like, yo, positive energy. Man.
Speaker 1: Wherever you add in the world, I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's a rule, but I don't care if it's fucking
Speaker 1: left Rack, I don't care if it's Newport News. I
Speaker 1: don't care if it's fucking you know, wherever it is,
Speaker 1: Like we we should, we should. We gotta respect each
Speaker 1: other and just be happy to be with so many
Speaker 1: people that we lost just this year, these messages for
Speaker 1: years for nothing. That's why I've been like that. And
Speaker 1: I'm really like love bro thank you man, same to
Speaker 1: you and your family. And when I say that I
Speaker 1: hope he you know, hope you are able to Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah he is, you know, you know. But let me
Speaker 1: just tell you from a super outsider like and y'all's
Speaker 1: and y'all solar system, I'm Pluto. That guy is all
Speaker 1: about you and and and he go on and for years,
Speaker 1: for years, it's always been when I talked to him,
Speaker 1: it's like here, it's such a y I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: down with my wife. It was like, I know when
Speaker 1: you entered his life. It was a very big difference
Speaker 1: because it was always whenever I talked to him, you
Speaker 1: were always in the equation. And that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy for you guys. Actually on some
Speaker 1: family ship every for the past couple of weeks. Thank
Speaker 1: you for doing the Grinch movie because I got two
Speaker 1: young kids, and every morning that's what we're watching and
Speaker 1: I can stand it because the music is amazing, the
Speaker 1: narration is amazing, So thank you for that contribution as well.
Speaker 1: With the parents and children, thank you, thank you, flossing
Speaker 1: you because this is a direct question from home. He said,
Speaker 1: I want all forty stories for him, get him high,
Speaker 1: which I'm not gonna do. I talked to him over
Speaker 1: producing Despicable Me. Wow, just funny ship that happened to him. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get you. I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: But this is you know what, Sean Carter, I don't
Speaker 1: know dea I've involved you were, but now I get it.
Speaker 1: Get show Hester say, I get it because he's getting
Speaker 1: involved with everybody. When but when I like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's been He's been there. He's a great guy.
Speaker 1: He's always been there. I remember, I remember when you
Speaker 1: guys were in the very beginning, when you guys first
Speaker 1: started clicking up whatever, and you had tasted Armadale for
Speaker 1: the first time. I hated it, and you were so
Speaker 1: vocal and I was always about I was so my
Speaker 1: haircut and put Armadale on me and I'm terrible. I
Speaker 1: loved them. I love no Helou was saying, by the way,
Speaker 1: by the way, he knows, I'm bringing it up because
Speaker 1: that was hated as much he's loved as much as
Speaker 1: he loved them. That always blew my mind, like damn, Like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're so honest about that ship. Well you didn't want
Speaker 1: to rock either. I'm always bringing that up. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you gotta relax. I was put I was affected from
Speaker 1: Armadale that never tasted a ski. I was bringing like
Speaker 1: it was I I was. I was like, you were
Speaker 1: the only one. Maybe you had a pink You had
Speaker 1: a pinky drink you remember with milk in it? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I never shipped it. Crazy that much alcohol
Speaker 1: wheel you had to figure out. You don't remember cream? Yeah? Cream,
Speaker 1: it was cream based. Yeah, it was c Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was like hell no, it was like, um, it
Speaker 1: was like imagine like a kulua, like a strawberry version
Speaker 1: of a kula even scared, but to do something to you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand. Then I went home. I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute. It was even I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on right now. But it was a beautiful thing
Speaker 1: at the time when you realized how much of never
Speaker 1: you are. Know, you're you're, You're super yo. In my book,
Speaker 1: you're my number one producer of all time. Listen, if
Speaker 1: I have one last album, which I would like for
Speaker 1: you to do. Listen if I had one last album
Speaker 1: to do, right the fuck it? I keep it real
Speaker 1: with the Lives album, I had one last song to do. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. He just went from last twelve or
Speaker 1: eleven down to one the whole album, bro, that is,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get me out of this somehow five songs
Speaker 1: or something. But you're gonna, as you know, in my
Speaker 1: schedule might be crazy because God is the greatest. God
Speaker 1: is the greatest. That was oxymaronic. But we're gonna let
Speaker 1: that go. Um, you're you know your your your credit
Speaker 1: is always good with me. Yes, yes, it's always good
Speaker 1: with me. And no, there's no I don't you don't
Speaker 1: talk to talk, there's no we're I'm talking about budgets
Speaker 1: and ship like that, like you know what you gave me.
Speaker 1: I realized what you feel like I gave you. But
Speaker 1: I okay, let me take this off. I realized what
Speaker 1: you feel like, you like like I gave you, and
Speaker 1: Chad has given you. Shut the chat chat Chad. He
Speaker 1: was a fucking savant genius of the highest order. Is
Speaker 1: I said, it is of the highest order. I will
Speaker 1: never behalf of the fucking musician that he is. A
Speaker 1: man can pick up an instrument leaving for two hours,
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker's playing on it like a like an
Speaker 1: ingenious improvisational you know, person who spent eight years on
Speaker 1: the instrument. That is Chad. Chad is a genius. But
Speaker 1: I realized what you feel like we have given you,
Speaker 1: but you need to understand what you gave us. And
Speaker 1: that is at the time we had done I had wrote,
Speaker 1: I had written Teddy's verse rum Shaker. Then I had
Speaker 1: like a little small, really really ill fitted verse for
Speaker 1: an f w V remix that didn't get used, but
Speaker 1: they chopped up part of my verse to use that
Speaker 1: that's that's double double double V that went into right
Speaker 1: here to Teddy Riley remix. Then we did Tonights Tonight.
Speaker 1: Then we did looking at Me, Looking at You're looking
Speaker 1: at me right, and then we did Super Thug. Super
Speaker 1: Thug made every hard rapper at the time look at
Speaker 1: us very differently. At the time, we had did Tonights
Speaker 1: Tonight for s w V, and that was like the
Speaker 1: biggest thing we had done, with the exception of uh
Speaker 1: and I'm somewhat as produces. With the exception of Tonight Tonight.
Speaker 1: It made people who had heard about us look at
Speaker 1: us very differently. Why because we worked with a hard rapper. No,
Speaker 1: because we worked with a hard character. You need to
Speaker 1: understand the difference. There's a hard rapper and then there's
Speaker 1: a hard character, a hard rapper cool until the way
Speaker 1: you rap goes out of style. But because you were
Speaker 1: a hard character, you were more than just a rapper.
Speaker 1: You were able to do super thug. We then did
Speaker 1: oh no, like you went on to do great things.
Speaker 1: And we are sitting here where everybody in this room
Speaker 1: to feel me, we're sitting here in you show me.
Speaker 1: You show me your contemporary. You showed me your peers
Speaker 1: that came out when you came out. You show me
Speaker 1: what they're doing now. And we love them and we
Speaker 1: respect them, and we hold them to the highest esteem.
Speaker 1: And there's so many of them that I could get
Speaker 1: into the greatest knockdown dragouts about who had the best
Speaker 1: fucking clue mix tapes from that era. But you show me,
Speaker 1: You show me who has jay Z sending them fucking questions?
Speaker 1: You got me? Well, you show me, right, that's all
Speaker 1: that's our big brother. He's a billionaire, like he's really
Speaker 1: really yeah, but yeah, to help him get to that
Speaker 1: billy right, right, you show me, you show me. I
Speaker 1: don't think you can. You know, podcast charting not like
Speaker 1: podcast podcast, I'm sorry, charting podcast very different. We invented
Speaker 1: like rappers doing podcasts and making it cool. But you
Speaker 1: got your own podcast, let's past network. What is it called?
Speaker 1: The other? Ours? Yours because you had ours, this other tone,
Speaker 1: the other tone because you had you had an Apple
Speaker 1: show at first. Yeah. Well, what's his name? Broke Scott
Speaker 1: Scott Viner, Yeah right, and that's the guy he had
Speaker 1: something to do with entourage, right, yeah, yeah, And I
Speaker 1: wanted to do it because I knew that he was
Speaker 1: much more equipped with like discerning what is the right
Speaker 1: ship that should be on there? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that I wanted him to have a platform because
Speaker 1: I've always thought that he was a genius um and
Speaker 1: I really do believe that. And then you know the
Speaker 1: cool thing is this is him and this next turnaround,
Speaker 1: it's it's him, myself, our brother family, right, family too,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about and he just warming up.
Speaker 1: He just warming up to get ready for his own
Speaker 1: ship um as well. But again, like it's been great man,
Speaker 1: and and and when you think back to the fact
Speaker 1: that you were early on it. First, my wife canna
Speaker 1: kill me with all this footage with my mask off,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I just needed you to see
Speaker 1: my face I wanted you to really see my face
Speaker 1: and hear me. Yo, you're a different guy, bro, You're different.
Speaker 1: And we've had our ups, we've had our downs, we've
Speaker 1: had our rounds. And what you did for Chad and
Speaker 1: I and essentially everybody that I worked with, you lifted
Speaker 1: us to a different kind of place. You should know
Speaker 1: that like you lifted us to a a different, different,
Speaker 1: different place. And the crazy thing is the entire time
Speaker 1: beyond it all. I would say the number one characteristic
Speaker 1: of our bond and our report is that you would
Speaker 1: trust me when I say, yo, listen to me. I
Speaker 1: would shut the funk up every time I would say, yo,
Speaker 1: just trust me, listen to me. And you moment I
Speaker 1: met you, that was the first word you said to me.
Speaker 1: You said, trust me, You're gonna go number one. And
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just I just I just
Speaker 1: always remember that moment was a sound on sound. I
Speaker 1: could listen if we go to sound, so I could
Speaker 1: tell you the exact space we was at. I could
Speaker 1: be like you, look, you were right here. I was
Speaker 1: right here, and you know what I was never wrong?
Speaker 1: You will you guess what you were never wrong? So
Speaker 1: you know, do sometimes compare us to Snoop in like, oh,
Speaker 1: bro bro, super Thug, Man, Yo, do you understand super Thug?
Speaker 1: Do you understand my brother Iverson went to jail right
Speaker 1: around that time because of the chair throwing in the
Speaker 1: chair back. If I'm not wrong, the night that our
Speaker 1: brother Iverson went to jail, wasn't that the night that
Speaker 1: you guys were in the club at the bowling Alley?
Speaker 1: Was this in Hampton or Norfolk? This is all for
Speaker 1: Princess and Road. Look, okay, I remember my brother who
Speaker 1: was managing him at the time. Somebody hit him over
Speaker 1: the back with a chair and they hit him so
Speaker 1: hard that he said he started speaking to two different people.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm making this up like Billy, because that's
Speaker 1: the story he told me when he got hit with
Speaker 1: that chair. It was a different night, but that's what
Speaker 1: super Thug was doing the people. As my point, Fam
Speaker 1: is correct. That was a different night, but that's what
Speaker 1: that's what Super Thug was doing to people. And Rob
Speaker 1: Walker was calling me from New York like, Yo, Yo,
Speaker 1: do you understand what this song? One of y'all gonna
Speaker 1: record this for me and give me that sound. Somebody
Speaker 1: is gonna give me that sound, and it just was
Speaker 1: a different time, bro, Like that record changed the mentality
Speaker 1: of how people were thinking. And another forget Chris was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when you're coming wrapping in my
Speaker 1: office and like we went and signed, y'all. He was
Speaker 1: like he felt differently about it then, and he was
Speaker 1: chrisly was a genius. Love to Chris Lighty and his
Speaker 1: children and his spirit wherever it is right now in
Speaker 1: the universe, because if it ever existed, it still exists.
Speaker 1: Where just because you can't hear it don't mean it
Speaker 1: don't exist. It's here and it might talk to some people.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Chris Lidy is here. And
Speaker 1: Chris Man, you had the most amazing vision, the idea
Speaker 1: that you were able to see into Cameron and see
Speaker 1: into Noriega, and see into Missy and see into Buster
Speaker 1: and see into q Tip. Y'all understand that this man
Speaker 1: was just going, Oh, you're like us. You're your violator,
Speaker 1: your violator, your violator, and your violator and your violator.
Speaker 1: Chris Lity had the fucking vision, Broa Like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just had to just take a moment just for him.
Speaker 1: And the Purple Rain is kicked in and it's and
Speaker 1: it's this is how happens. And by the way, no disrespect,
Speaker 1: but it's Swan, right, it's not like that. We're not
Speaker 1: I'm not from New York, so that's not me like
Speaker 1: with the New York Act saying saying swine swan. It's swan.
Speaker 1: It's here in Miami. It's me and Dave Groutman and
Speaker 1: purple rain is one of our drinks. Right away, did
Speaker 1: you realize Tony Tony Tony was this in New York
Speaker 1: from back in the days to New York from back
Speaker 1: in the day and never fains and south thank Calforn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said it may be cold on the East Coast
Speaker 1: on the other side of town. You never noticed that
Speaker 1: Tony Tony is a foul people. Raphael City doesn't strike
Speaker 1: me that. I'm gonna tell you why, Okay, because I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, because he's like our weather conditions. But
Speaker 1: you never saying he said East coast. He just say
Speaker 1: in New York. He could have been Boston. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you just just you just to turn the tri state
Speaker 1: areas just the East coast. Just determined that earlier about
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes he was circumstantial minutes. Look, I don't know
Speaker 1: that rafaels the deep mean that just because Rafael is
Speaker 1: such a loving guy and him and Q Tip are
Speaker 1: so fucking close. In D'Angelo, who was also from Virginia, Richmond, Virginia,
Speaker 1: he loved he loves those guys so much. I can't imagine.
Speaker 1: All right, God that let's make some Luis. I'll keep
Speaker 1: it in Fox. So this is really nice, man Madonna, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: where are you at? Madonna calls you. He says, I
Speaker 1: want you to be Tiger King. Did you say I
Speaker 1: want you to be Tiger King? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, you know, I don't know why I
Speaker 1: thought that. Let it wants you to be the king
Speaker 1: from Flix. No mcdonna call. No, he was too wild
Speaker 1: because you had the Michael Jackson call first. Right, So
Speaker 1: when did you get the mcdonna call? The Madonna call
Speaker 1: was definitely in the two thousands. Um, I want to say,
Speaker 1: I was still working at the Marlin at time. Does
Speaker 1: he already have black children? I'm asking? No, this is real, yeah, serious, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she had children already? She had black children? UM? Bad?
Speaker 1: Those weird, But I gotta ask because I just want
Speaker 1: you to know so super clear. How you do this ship?
Speaker 1: Super clear? The real questions coming on in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: ye jay z No, some Madonna calls you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is real. Madonna calls and she's like, yo, let's
Speaker 1: get together. And I'm like, okay, she's aggressive. I feel
Speaker 1: like mcdonna's aggressive. She's aggressive, she's aggressive, she's outpul female.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that she's aggressive. Um he's like,
Speaker 1: I wanna let's make some music. I love what you
Speaker 1: guys do. And it's cool. So we we you know,
Speaker 1: I'm going back between Florida, my in me and um
Speaker 1: London and we work on Hard Candy h And that
Speaker 1: was cool and it was It's interesting because she worked
Speaker 1: with me and then also she had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Tim too, and Tim knew her too because he knew
Speaker 1: her from before when he was with with DeVante and
Speaker 1: DeVante had worked on her album, so they knew each other.
Speaker 1: So excuse me. So when we went in and like
Speaker 1: we just did a bunch of records, it's interesting because
Speaker 1: one record that we did call on and On, we
Speaker 1: put Kanye on this early in his career with Madonna
Speaker 1: looking listening On and On, He's on that record, his
Speaker 1: mama came to the studio and literally, like I want
Speaker 1: to say, a little while after that when she passed.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. That was last time I saw her. She
Speaker 1: came to the session with Madonnald's bless Yeah. Absolutely, sorry
Speaker 1: to take my trains out. Um, that was a crazy time. Donna. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did you do with Madonna? So? Look, you have Madonna, Prince,
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, who else from the eighties? Did you the
Speaker 1: biggest artist in the world. Yeah? I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. If you actually retire right now,
Speaker 1: no one will be mad at you because I feel
Speaker 1: like you worked with everybody. Is this somebody you didn't
Speaker 1: work with that you wanted to work with? I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: People asked me that, They've been asked me that for
Speaker 1: about ten years. I love working you. So have you
Speaker 1: worked with everyone on your wish list? Is your wish
Speaker 1: list complete? Nah? Who? Who? Who? Don't tell me Gucci bad?
Speaker 1: We work with Gucci, I work with Goodier. Do somebody
Speaker 1: you want to work with you haven't worked with? That's
Speaker 1: live pretty much everybody I've wanted to work with. We
Speaker 1: always end up finding our way working together, not one soul.
Speaker 1: Older people, those are the ones that say no, they shady.
Speaker 1: We were able to do a remix for Prince. We
Speaker 1: did a remix for he was gone already. No, we
Speaker 1: did the greatest romance ever been told, the greatest, greatest
Speaker 1: story that's ever been told, greatest romance. I'm sorry forgive
Speaker 1: me one of the two. Yeah, Prince Michael. I never
Speaker 1: worked with Michael. Michael was amazing. Though. Michael called a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah. One time you and Justin was
Speaker 1: in the studio again, Yeah, and he called when you
Speaker 1: was justin st Yeah, and he's eating popcorners. He was
Speaker 1: eating popcorn in my She was crazy. I was like,
Speaker 1: That's when I knew it was him. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is because that's his normal to eat popcorn. You
Speaker 1: call you over and over and over again and then
Speaker 1: start eating popcorn. I was like, I'm thinking of Thriller
Speaker 1: when he's watching the movie he's I'm like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is definitely definitely him. And what was he And he
Speaker 1: was in the studio with Justice. Yeah, in the studio
Speaker 1: with Justin. And this is another story that I read
Speaker 1: that was very At some point, Clips was on job,
Speaker 1: Justin was on Jove Clips called beef with Job and
Speaker 1: you chose not to work with Justice because he was
Speaker 1: on job? What was because you know, I imagine you
Speaker 1: guys are friends. What's that conversation like? What is that like?
Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't know, it's getting a little deep,
Speaker 1: but you know, I chose what you chose not to
Speaker 1: work with Justin because because honestly, it was the advice
Speaker 1: that I was given, and Justin took that super personal
Speaker 1: legal advice. I plead the fifth Okay, so whatever, But
Speaker 1: now that's when I don't snitch. But I will say
Speaker 1: that my my the advice seal out there. Bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: my team and advised not to do that, not to
Speaker 1: continue to work with Justice. Just no, no, just to say, Job,
Speaker 1: I can't work on anything that y'all have because I
Speaker 1: need you all to do right by the clips. But
Speaker 1: that's not how they told it to Justin and and
Speaker 1: and he was very disappointed by that because he would
Speaker 1: have understood that had it been explained a certain ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you know, I just give the advice was
Speaker 1: bad and the execution was bad. And I had to
Speaker 1: bribe with that because I didn't think that all the
Speaker 1: way through to be like, no, you're all wrong about this.
Speaker 1: We this is not excuse me, this is not Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm twisted. This is not how we should do this.
Speaker 1: We should explain this to him so he can be
Speaker 1: in choreography with us, you know. And I regret that
Speaker 1: because still to this day it's like, I mean, we
Speaker 1: talked about it, but still to this day, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that I look at and go, Damn.
Speaker 1: If I were the person that I am now, I
Speaker 1: would have totally told my younger self, Yo, don't do that.
Speaker 1: That's just that's not right, Like that's your that's that's
Speaker 1: that's your team thinking shortsighted. They thinking zoomed, and they're
Speaker 1: not thinking zoomed out. Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: as a producer, you could have said, yo, let me
Speaker 1: still get this money on the side. So what what
Speaker 1: made you take that stance and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay. I mean, I know you kind of
Speaker 1: explained that, but I just want to get it the
Speaker 1: artist friends, because you know, you could have been like
Speaker 1: yr Clips, Yo, listen, I get it, that's y'all beef
Speaker 1: with job. But you know I got this whole justin
Speaker 1: these were my brothers, you know, and Justin as my
Speaker 1: brother and as far as I was concerned, and the
Speaker 1: way it was explained to me, which made sense at
Speaker 1: the time, like he would get it, he'd be okay
Speaker 1: if we just needed to delay a couple of months
Speaker 1: for the record label to do the right thing. When
Speaker 1: you said he would he would get you too much, Justin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he didn't get it because we never gave together.
Speaker 1: We could have strategized better and would have been he
Speaker 1: would have been, but that's not what happened, you know.
Speaker 1: And they told him, Yo, this guy doesn't care about you,
Speaker 1: you know, and they turned him against me. And it
Speaker 1: took a minute how long you're talking about two year period?
Speaker 1: It was different. We had a very um, you know,
Speaker 1: we had a very uh. It was very strenuous, and
Speaker 1: he was being made to convince that like I felt
Speaker 1: like I was more than what I was to him.
Speaker 1: And really all justin Justin was a friend to me,
Speaker 1: and I was a friend to him, and you know,
Speaker 1: when he was going through tough times, I was there
Speaker 1: for him, and when I was going through tough times,
Speaker 1: he was there for me. But they but they they
Speaker 1: vilified me to him. And when you're young, and even
Speaker 1: you know, everything essentially goes right for you, and something
Speaker 1: goes left, and there's a person that you've known for
Speaker 1: a minute and they go and it seems like they're
Speaker 1: going left on you. You're gonna feel a certain kind
Speaker 1: of way. I understood that they painted a picture a
Speaker 1: certain kind of way. He didn't really understand that I
Speaker 1: was just trying to stand in solidarity with my brothers,
Speaker 1: and I should have brought him along with me on
Speaker 1: that journey. He actually could have helped us change that narrative.
Speaker 1: But the advice that I was given, I trusted to
Speaker 1: stay away from job period and not cut him off.
Speaker 1: Not cut him off, but just like, no, I can't
Speaker 1: work on nothing for you all right now? But what
Speaker 1: about justin? He's not your brother. And then they went
Speaker 1: back and took my words and it's like no, they
Speaker 1: went back and just took my words to the you know,
Speaker 1: it just totally blew it out to him, and he
Speaker 1: and I talked eventually, and that's when I explained to him, like, no, listen,
Speaker 1: this is what I was trying to do, but I
Speaker 1: should have involved you. That was my mistake because I
Speaker 1: didn't think holistically. My greatest fault in this lifetime is
Speaker 1: it sometimes I'm too zoomed in. M meaning like, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm just sometimes I'm just too zoomed in, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I need to zoom out. Sometimes we all need a
Speaker 1: zoom out. Sometimes we're just thinking about what we're going
Speaker 1: through and what what we need, And even if it's
Speaker 1: for somebody else, it's still too zoomed in. You got
Speaker 1: you gotta m out, you gotta zoom out. You gotta
Speaker 1: have a bigger picture of things. Make sure you guys
Speaker 1: can hear me when I say that. Man, this is great.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna puol me some more US space anybody wants.
Speaker 1: You're giving it out the first yet better drinking space
Speaker 1: right now, because you know why, Man, this is the
Speaker 1: best producer of all fucking times in my in my life. Um,
Speaker 1: you know I was. I don't want to say a
Speaker 1: local wrapper because I want to say the War Report
Speaker 1: is a classic? What do you mean you want to say?
Speaker 1: Are you saying? Are you taking it? I want a
Speaker 1: ship of that. Yeah, you know it's zoomed out. It's
Speaker 1: a classic. Now we all understand that. But maybe when
Speaker 1: you was in that moment, you didn't know, and like
Speaker 1: I said, when I met this man that was right
Speaker 1: here to my left of me, and he said, man
Speaker 1: listened to me, and I listened to you, and my
Speaker 1: life has never been the same since. And you know,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm glad what you're saying to me, but
Speaker 1: I want to give you your flowers while you're here
Speaker 1: because it changed my life because it was a different sound,
Speaker 1: just like Band from TV was a different sound. Like
Speaker 1: when Band from TV dropped, people were sitting around like
Speaker 1: that's what ship is not I give it even better.
Speaker 1: I'll give you even better example forever. And this is
Speaker 1: my friend, Um, Big Tiger, thank you, bro, take it
Speaker 1: from the basement. Yeah, you know what he said to
Speaker 1: me after old old drop And I swear to God,
Speaker 1: this is on my father's life. Big Ticket says, stopped
Speaker 1: working with the Neptunes. All that ships sound the same.
Speaker 1: I will never say this. Um, Then you do you
Speaker 1: understand who Big Tigger was at this moment. And he
Speaker 1: sat there and I had I had super dog that
Speaker 1: I had. Oh no, he was in control of the
Speaker 1: biggest fucking hip hop station at the time. He pulled
Speaker 1: me to the side, stopped working with the Neptunes. I
Speaker 1: looked at him I wanted to do. I don't this
Speaker 1: is the old nor what I said to myself. I'm
Speaker 1: all right, I know where this is gonna go. And
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I've never revealed this story ever in my life,
Speaker 1: so as a woman. But said there was there was there.
Speaker 1: I want to just say this. I mean, you didn't
Speaker 1: asked me. It wasn't the thing that was that warranted
Speaker 1: a response. It was just like interesting information. But I
Speaker 1: want to say to him, listen, love, brother, you know
Speaker 1: that's what you felt at the time. That's what you felt.
Speaker 1: And you know what, at that time I might have sounded,
Speaker 1: we might have sounded like everything that we did was repetitious.
Speaker 1: And I knew I needed to grow beyond that. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm grateful. I'm grateful that he felt
Speaker 1: the same thing we might have felt of our excuse me,
Speaker 1: that we might have felt at the time. And I
Speaker 1: appreciate your loyalty and I appreciate his loyalty to the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: none of us are mad. He is somewhere doing what
Speaker 1: he's doing and being the very greatest everybody's doing. You're
Speaker 1: you're at the greatest height of what you're doing. And
Speaker 1: I am still just saying thank you God, but really
Speaker 1: quick to piggyback of all this as a DJ, though
Speaker 1: originally I could hear the same sounds, but I started
Speaker 1: to say, this is genius because you could these records
Speaker 1: seamlessly going to each other and then be the whole
Speaker 1: sound right right, but then even going even further coming
Speaker 1: you know, out of Miami and the Caribbean being very
Speaker 1: influential too, what we do. I'm looking at dance all
Speaker 1: and how the rhythms all it's the same rhythmic yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So was there any thought like that to what you
Speaker 1: guys were doing? So I fell in love with the
Speaker 1: clap of chord because it could be as radical as
Speaker 1: a guitar riff from like led Zeppelin or Metallica, and
Speaker 1: it could also be as rhythmic as um, you know,
Speaker 1: more technical music, and so we were very loyal to
Speaker 1: that for a while. Um and I think, and I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I did. The very first time
Speaker 1: we ever used a clap chord was on Super though,
Speaker 1: so when you're do dot dot dot dot dot dot dot.
Speaker 1: And then after that we were given the remix to
Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys record, and then we were giving the remix,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, superb Man, and then we were given um,
Speaker 1: then we were given the remix to a Locks record
Speaker 1: h and then it just it's just that's when the
Speaker 1: Neptune sound. But it started with super Thub because if
Speaker 1: you listen to uh when This Feeling by STBUV or
Speaker 1: you listen to um uh um use your Heart by STV,
Speaker 1: which was the bigger song because that was a single,
Speaker 1: it didn't have that particular sound. If you listen to
Speaker 1: it tonight tonight, it didn't have that particular sound either.
Speaker 1: We developed our sound after we've made super Thub, but
Speaker 1: you guys consciously say, well, this is our signature sound. Now,
Speaker 1: we never said it. We just kept going back to
Speaker 1: what felt good. And that's like a thing for me,
Speaker 1: like I might not like some people are so good
Speaker 1: at what they do that they make a declaration. I've
Speaker 1: never been good at that, and every time I make
Speaker 1: a declaration, I'm wrong. So I've learned to not make
Speaker 1: a declaration and just continue to declare my action. And
Speaker 1: that clavichord that's what gave us that which is not
Speaker 1: new because like for example, like Premiere, you knew what
Speaker 1: a Premiere beat sounding. It was the sounds of it
Speaker 1: premier but celebrated enough. But let me just say I
Speaker 1: gotta say this, that Neptune Run is nothing like Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm because I got to be honest. What would you
Speaker 1: say that the Neptune Run when after after oh no,
Speaker 1: after that, No, there was entire mixed shows of just
Speaker 1: Neptune record. People still send me faking up tune beats.
Speaker 1: I love it. Let me, Oh my god, I can't.
Speaker 1: I know the guy, but what do you understand? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it's It's one of the proudest
Speaker 1: moments of my career, is because I had a chance
Speaker 1: to believe in you guys. And like I said, you
Speaker 1: you gave me the every baby you want me and
Speaker 1: I've brung it to Nas. Nas didn't get it. I
Speaker 1: forget what what for Jay? But we can leave that alone.
Speaker 1: But to see where you at, it's a beautiful thing
Speaker 1: for me. You understand nobody clear, Listen, listen, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this again. Please, good, bad and different up down
Speaker 1: around what we were you like were you y'all know
Speaker 1: what you're doing here too with this motherfucking we love
Speaker 1: and we're being family in here, like two minutes what
Speaker 1: y'all doing here. Y'all know what, y'all know what the
Speaker 1: funk you're doing. You have fun. This is definitely a
Speaker 1: formulator works. We have fun. And our big brother isn't
Speaker 1: just leaning in and sending them bottle for nothing. But
Speaker 1: oh shoot, I gotta finish my purple rain purple fill
Speaker 1: them up. I was filling them up. Holy Moly, guaka mole.
Speaker 1: You tell me what to stop Pete m h ship.
Speaker 1: Do you know what holy Moley is? Definitely don't so.
Speaker 1: Moley is this herb that was given to someone and
Speaker 1: back to stop him from being under a spell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were trying to like put him under a spell
Speaker 1: and they yeah, and they gave him this what was
Speaker 1: called moley m O M m O l y And
Speaker 1: that's why we say holy Moly to this day. But
Speaker 1: moley was was something that was given to him to
Speaker 1: keep him from not falling under the spell of over sorceress.
Speaker 1: Actually not meduced. It was a sorceress who turned all
Speaker 1: of uh, Okay, maybe I'm mixing this up. This was
Speaker 1: given to run you know, Odyssey, Odysseus am I saying
Speaker 1: it right? Okay, Well, so it was given to him
Speaker 1: to stop him from turning into a pig, like they
Speaker 1: turned the rest of his squad into um and he
Speaker 1: was able to like, you know, convince her to like
Speaker 1: take the spell off of his of his guys and
Speaker 1: turn them back into human beings from the swine that
Speaker 1: she turned them into. And then he liked had like
Speaker 1: to make love to her for like a like a
Speaker 1: four year straight. But Moley is what is a herb
Speaker 1: that she gave him? That that that that that made
Speaker 1: him immune to the to the spell that she was
Speaker 1: putting him under. And we had to walk Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not Hercules's odyss Odysseus. Oh the person you mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut that shows like purple man. Is that Swan?
Speaker 1: You guys got to go to Swan. It's in the
Speaker 1: design district. So is this a perfect cold that we
Speaker 1: have to say you gotta have. It's gonna be a secret.
Speaker 1: It's not Swine's Swan. So here's the thing. I knew
Speaker 1: that was a thing. You went to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: I said, you guys, I'm not from New York. I'm
Speaker 1: not from New York either, right, And so if you
Speaker 1: say you said Swan, Swan people from New York. I
Speaker 1: think you're saying swine, right, Yeah, that's just swine, but
Speaker 1: we really means swan. It's really the thing that floats
Speaker 1: on top, but it's really doing a lot of work
Speaker 1: on the bottom. Swan the bird. Yes, Dave Grupman, myself,
Speaker 1: Alex Perez and also interior designer Can Folk well only
Speaker 1: say that there's a restaurant called Swine down the street.
Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah, we're not swine. Swine's actually been in there. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's actually really yeah, but we're swan. We're want to
Speaker 1: design just strict right across from time four. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I've been there a couple of times. Liquors yeah, hit that. Ready,
Speaker 1: this is called quick time with Slin. This is just
Speaker 1: one of the other ready. Yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 1: need your whole intention. Okay, sorry, I'm going away for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm here. Are you ready? I'm good? J Or Snoop
Speaker 1: both Terry Rowdy or Quincy both this noise or that noise?
Speaker 1: I love? I love Timper car Yeah both just a
Speaker 1: timper leg or Robin Dick? Who's that? Who's your both?
Speaker 1: Nicky or Cardi b both? You have some random people?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm just gonna police both. And I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, let's please you know. I love them both,
Speaker 1: and and and and and and given given all of
Speaker 1: everything that I'm going through, like it's man, I love
Speaker 1: them both despite all everything. I love Calise, man. I
Speaker 1: want the best for her, despite everything. Girl from right, No,
Speaker 1: that wasn't my girlfriend, no no, no, no, yeah he
Speaker 1: went he went side. But you know what, she's definitely
Speaker 1: somebody who taught me about fashion um and um. I
Speaker 1: felt like we both taught each other about music and
Speaker 1: art um and we made fantastic music together. I love
Speaker 1: her and I want nothing but the best for her.
Speaker 1: I'm nothing, but I'm only like Calise is like a
Speaker 1: sister to me. I'm only going to have positive things
Speaker 1: to say, period. That's it. And when it comes to
Speaker 1: Missy like we were born in the same state, like man,
Speaker 1: we may on and all together. That's amazing. But man,
Speaker 1: Missy Elliott, I need Missy here on Dreams. Elliott is
Speaker 1: like she's a fucking dream like like period, like she
Speaker 1: was at Adidas before I got There's an uber legend, man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so listen for the both of them, absolutely nothing but
Speaker 1: love and respect. I'm not gonna actually no more. It
Speaker 1: was clear that you was like the very everybody. It's
Speaker 1: love for everybody. I love that about you for us,
Speaker 1: he makes a noise for yourself. No, here's what I
Speaker 1: want to make noise for. I want to make noise
Speaker 1: for God. Man, bro, I'm gonna take my masks off
Speaker 1: of this one. For God. Listen. I'm talking about mistakes. Listen.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. But she could be what
Speaker 1: I'm about to say could be Swiss cheese, the funk
Speaker 1: up mistakes, bad choices and all. God is the greatest.
Speaker 1: Because what I was told today, you know, by my
Speaker 1: uncle who's a bishop. He said, you know what like
Speaker 1: it doesn't like you're bad mistakes or you're bad decisions
Speaker 1: or whatever it is that makes you human. God ain't
Speaker 1: gonna give up on his purpose for you. Whatever God
Speaker 1: has for you, He's gonna see to it that that
Speaker 1: happens because that's for him. And whatever lessons that you
Speaker 1: have to incurage because you've made bad decisions, that's on you.
Speaker 1: But whatever He has for you, no man, no situation,
Speaker 1: and not even the ill informed or ill instinct decisions
Speaker 1: that you make kid get in the way of that,
Speaker 1: because whatever fate has for you, Fate has for you.
Speaker 1: Whatever God God for you, no man can get in
Speaker 1: the way of And so for me, when you say,
Speaker 1: can I give it up for myself? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I just want to take this time.
Speaker 1: I don't know how often y'all have done this. But man,
Speaker 1: I know there's alcohol in the room. I know there's
Speaker 1: weird in the room, and there are people who are
Speaker 1: gonna have judgments by me saying this. But if you
Speaker 1: think God is only in the in the church and
Speaker 1: in the synagogue and in the mosque, then you don't
Speaker 1: understand what this world is. You don't understand what this
Speaker 1: universe is. The universe is God. Bro, We are inside God.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just telling you right now, I'm not
Speaker 1: giving shut up for myself what I want to in
Speaker 1: the super kind of you. And I know I need
Speaker 1: to excuse myself because the purple rain has kicked in,
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna excuse myself bym just saying you guys,
Speaker 1: don't get it sucked up. God is the greatest the
Speaker 1: blunts in your mouth, the alcohol is in front of you,
Speaker 1: the entire room, and envision and feeling is in front
Speaker 1: of you. But make no mistake, bro, God is the greatest. God.
Speaker 1: Damn it, God is the greatest. I feel like I
Speaker 1: got one more, Lenna, wrap it up. So for years
Speaker 1: I know you for twenty years. What is it since nineties?
Speaker 1: I want to say since nineties seven, because the record
Speaker 1: dropped at ninety eight and at that DA we needed
Speaker 1: like a year in advance to drop it. So I
Speaker 1: want to say ninety seven. But I've never realized how
Speaker 1: crazy you watch games spoke about the jury, okay, because
Speaker 1: you only do that. I know that's that mill one
Speaker 1: point five million people. Please, it's okay. We're gonna make
Speaker 1: sure no one does nothing because we kill anybody. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this was in commemoration to the fact that, like
Speaker 1: we went to Mars in nineteen seventy six, you know,
Speaker 1: like and you know, as as as as human beings,
Speaker 1: we sent our our first probe in nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 1: and actually a woman that worked on it. Her name
Speaker 1: was Katherine Johnson. She was called a colored computer because
Speaker 1: when she came into NASA, black people were still still
Speaker 1: deemed as colored because you produced that movie too about them,
Speaker 1: Yes sir, yes, yes, call Hidden Figures. So she worked
Speaker 1: on that. She helped get that probe there. She was
Speaker 1: one of the mathematicians to help get that probe there
Speaker 1: from NASA to the surface of Mars okay Um. But
Speaker 1: the idea that Mars is so important to us, and
Speaker 1: that you know, the ones right after us are the millennials,
Speaker 1: are the ones after that are gen zers, and the
Speaker 1: ones after that our children. They have the Mars generation
Speaker 1: because they'll go back and forth to Mars like a snowball.
Speaker 1: They're talking about now too, Yes, sir, absolutely, So I
Speaker 1: say all that to say that, like, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Mars is back on our horizon. It's back and popular,
Speaker 1: and so you know, we wanted to make a Richard
Speaker 1: and I wanted to make a watch that sort of
Speaker 1: commemorated that we really wanted. We really wanted. No one
Speaker 1: knows Richard, yeah, Richard, Yeah. We have another one that's
Speaker 1: coming out pretty soon. It's already sold out, it's gone,
Speaker 1: but it's actually going to hit the market pretty soon.
Speaker 1: And that is the Sapphire version, which is super clear.
Speaker 1: So a lot of watches pride themselves on being double skeletal,
Speaker 1: but this entire thing is X ray, meaning you can
Speaker 1: see through the side. You can see the front. You
Speaker 1: can see through everything, not just the top and the bottom.
Speaker 1: Like skeletal is just the bones. But this is X
Speaker 1: ray we see at all leaving. Yeah, that was not
Speaker 1: a Dominican way to pop the bottle? What was the
Speaker 1: Dominican way him dancing? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, continued, you
Speaker 1: know it's okay, Um, so listen. By the way, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't spend enough time talking about Richard.
Speaker 1: Richard Mill has been not only so good to me,
Speaker 1: but he like cares about you know, if he cares
Speaker 1: about children. Uh, you know what he does the various
Speaker 1: programs that he has and he's a watch company. But
Speaker 1: he sponsored so many olympiads and people who like, you know,
Speaker 1: running the Olympics and training the Olympics and actually performing
Speaker 1: dancing and Olympics sorry interrupting, Yeah, yeah, breakdancing and skateboarding
Speaker 1: and Olympics skateboard. We get your skateboard. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: gave me the component oria and when that was that
Speaker 1: was hard. I'm gonna mount that bitch up and skatering
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. But Richard has just been so good man,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, like you think,
Speaker 1: he's just you know with Bubba Watson and the doll
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever. But Richard actually really cares about like
Speaker 1: the youth and his like programs. He's a lot of
Speaker 1: programs and and and a lot of them are very
Speaker 1: you know, child child and sports oriented. And I've just
Speaker 1: been so grateful because I've loved to watch them since
Speaker 1: what I was talking about it and can I have
Speaker 1: that like that? Like I don't know what is the
Speaker 1: two thousand six or seven and and um, and he
Speaker 1: just you know, to meet the guy and see what
Speaker 1: he really cares about. How does this happen? Because I
Speaker 1: put it in can I have it like that? And
Speaker 1: he heard about it and he sort of sought me out.
Speaker 1: So he kind of came to me. It was weird,
Speaker 1: you know, and then so we just started working together.
Speaker 1: And you know, the funniest thing is that because because
Speaker 1: it's because he's weird, because like I would have never
Speaker 1: thought to go to him at the time. That's my brother.
Speaker 1: Kanye Kanyu is a smart guy. Kanye, when he has
Speaker 1: an idea, he goes after it. For me, I would
Speaker 1: have these ideas and if I was lucky enough, the
Speaker 1: idea come to me. What happened? What Kanye came to
Speaker 1: you with no no example. Kanye is different because when
Speaker 1: he thinks things, he goes after it. And I wasn't
Speaker 1: like that. I was more like I would think these
Speaker 1: things and if I uttered them in a song, sometimes
Speaker 1: those things would come to be like you know. Only
Speaker 1: after a while I realized, oh, I gotta go after
Speaker 1: these things that I say, you know, I have to
Speaker 1: really turn to help turn them into fruition. And Richard
Speaker 1: Mill was one of those things where I didn't go
Speaker 1: after it. I said it in a song me and
Speaker 1: Gwen and that song can happen about that? Yeah, make
Speaker 1: because you just use the first name, you're killing us here. Sorry,
Speaker 1: listen to Purple Rains kicked that Yeah, purples fun so
Speaker 1: like so like so like um you know. Richard reached
Speaker 1: out and he was like, look, I'm so honored that
Speaker 1: you talked about it to saw us do something together
Speaker 1: and at the time Happy it came out and he
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I saw you do kid, I have
Speaker 1: it like that, but then you have the song happy
Speaker 1: like let's do something. And I was like, man, I
Speaker 1: really love like I love the idea of like man
Speaker 1: being um man seeing himself going out there into the
Speaker 1: into the into the universe and making his mark. And
Speaker 1: as a black man, I want that for my culture.
Speaker 1: I want my culture to continue to look at things
Speaker 1: like that, like like, yo, we can do anything. I know,
Speaker 1: we lost a brother out there and you know in
Speaker 1: the first Space Shuttle explosion, Well we can, we can.
Speaker 1: We could go there, we could go to any one
Speaker 1: of these planets or any one of their moons and
Speaker 1: bake it. And he was like, okay, cool. So then
Speaker 1: we did the Watch together and I just remember him
Speaker 1: just telling me about all these programs where he was
Speaker 1: sponsoring all these Olympic like watch on right, yeah, he
Speaker 1: was sponsoring all these Olympics. Yeah, but he was sponsoring
Speaker 1: all these runners. And I was like, yo, you're like
Speaker 1: you're like killing it in the Watch game right now.
Speaker 1: You're surpassing everything. The resale on everything that you do
Speaker 1: is doing really well, Like you don't have to care
Speaker 1: about all these black people. Watches exist, though, but hear me,
Speaker 1: he's sponsoring all these black people. Yes, right now, actively
Speaker 1: as we speak, he's sponsoring all these like black like Olympiads.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. No one knows this, and so for me,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh yeah, hell, yeah, I'm gonna work
Speaker 1: with you. Not only did I want to work and
Speaker 1: he was already doing it. Yeah, he had been doing it.
Speaker 1: And so like if you talk to him right now,
Speaker 1: there's like there's like Olympic running of people who are
Speaker 1: actively competing, who have watches, and you didn't know that
Speaker 1: they were like based on like Olympic runners, and these
Speaker 1: guys are actually all benefiting from it. It's unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: he's he'll sponsor a village, He's I mean things you
Speaker 1: don't even know what. Listen, what I'm saying to you
Speaker 1: is he's a good man. He's got every opportunity to
Speaker 1: just be like a European man who's literally just making
Speaker 1: his money, but literally he's not. He's thinking outside of
Speaker 1: his continent and going to the places where we are
Speaker 1: and where we're most afflicted, whether it is thinking about
Speaker 1: the safety of children on the road or or or
Speaker 1: or thinking about what we're going to need when we
Speaker 1: are really talented, but we don't. We come from very
Speaker 1: modest means, and we come from a community that can't
Speaker 1: provide for us. I would encourage you to do the
Speaker 1: homework and see the programs that Richard Mill has. It's
Speaker 1: not just like superior Swiss movement and like very expensive,
Speaker 1: like you know, record breaking um um um um um
Speaker 1: price tax. It's a culture and culture and good from
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, it's changed the way that I think.
Speaker 1: I used to just think it was just like a
Speaker 1: cool design of a watch. Now I know that it's
Speaker 1: really the personality of a man. I'm surprised you don't
Speaker 1: work with Elen it anyway. Yeah, I think Ellen is amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm just using first names because that's all he's doing. Elon.
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is amazing. Um. We talked a couple of times.
Speaker 1: We're not I would say that we're friendly, but we're not.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't talk to him all
Speaker 1: the time, talk to him here and there. You know,
Speaker 1: like what would be the initiative with him if you
Speaker 1: were to work with him, what would yeah, what would
Speaker 1: you envision a collaboration between y'all two? You know, Let
Speaker 1: me say this first before I answer a question. Elon
Speaker 1: Musk is a man who thinks about things from a
Speaker 1: very different perspective. He thinks in the future. When he
Speaker 1: answered when you asked him a question, he's going to
Speaker 1: give your answer this, So you want to be very
Speaker 1: careful and cognizant of what you're asking him. You want
Speaker 1: to make sure you're asking the right thing at the
Speaker 1: right time. And I would ask him to think about
Speaker 1: how to I would want to go to him. I
Speaker 1: would look at him as a problem solver, because that's
Speaker 1: what he is. But he's been a problem solving for
Speaker 1: the things that he deems most important. I don't from
Speaker 1: his POV and I don't disagree with the things that
Speaker 1: he has thought about. But I if I were him,
Speaker 1: I would think, how do we get Elon Musk to
Speaker 1: put his brain cells to consider how to make our
Speaker 1: supremacist brothers and sisters understand the plight of the people
Speaker 1: that they hate. M. If we could get Elon Musk
Speaker 1: to think about racism, If we could get Elon Musk
Speaker 1: to think about federal subsidies, if we could get Elon
Speaker 1: Musk to think about women M and we could get
Speaker 1: a lion must to think about the plight of women.
Speaker 1: I think that he's such a genius that if when
Speaker 1: he applies himself to a situation, he figures his way
Speaker 1: out his the way that he's looked at sonap Solar
Speaker 1: panel solar panels, and that business has been ingenious. If
Speaker 1: we could get him to think about the plight of
Speaker 1: black Americans and how to translate that to are less
Speaker 1: empathetic and even sometimes apathetic white brothers and sisters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we could get him to think about so many things.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing I would say for Nikolai Tesla.
Speaker 1: He named his company right, he named his company after Tesla.
Speaker 1: Same thing I would say to Einstein. It's like man theory,
Speaker 1: theory of relatively we needed that, But brother, we needed
Speaker 1: you to for so much more. If you could, Mr Eerstein,
Speaker 1: if you could have sat down with Malcolm, imagine coming
Speaker 1: up also during World War Two. He's Jewish during Nazi.
Speaker 1: But that's my point. If we could have gotten you
Speaker 1: to beat Mr Malcolm, Mr Einstein, if we could have
Speaker 1: got you to meet you know, Mr Martin Ellen, if
Speaker 1: we could have gotten you to sit down and have
Speaker 1: a conversation with who which. By the way, by the way,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a white savior type of way.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if we could have gotten because
Speaker 1: I started. But there's gonna be people. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: people who cut up everything that I'm saying all things
Speaker 1: that like a white savior could save everything, and they
Speaker 1: didn't hear the context. I started this conversation by saying,
Speaker 1: you said to me about Ellen thinking about things right.
Speaker 1: But what I'm what I'm saying is when you talk
Speaker 1: to Ellen Musk, you asked him a question. And the
Speaker 1: times that I've talked to him is in nineteen I
Speaker 1: think I talked to him in twenty twenty about like
Speaker 1: cars and ship that I needed because we have four children.
Speaker 1: But when you ask Ellen a question in he gives
Speaker 1: you an answer forty or forty or right. So if
Speaker 1: we could have had him, mama, so we could add
Speaker 1: Ellen ask a question, don't count you or or or
Speaker 1: or or or give a contributor a contributive, give a
Speaker 1: contribution to the thought of some of these considerations. I'm
Speaker 1: selling you what I would have wanted him to weigh
Speaker 1: in on that SI should be illegal. Teach you get
Speaker 1: the shots. That's beautiful looking thing. Yo. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: you're yeah, bro, I'm glad I'm here. I thought I
Speaker 1: thought you will never come that family. Wait, let me
Speaker 1: get a shot. Hold on with the test me like that.
Speaker 1: Cheer up man, Let's thre me with a good time,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Now I was, I was
Speaker 1: just doing bakado song in my mind. Oh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: right now. How long you know for real lap tunes,
Speaker 1: the whole family, break it down, family tuning for us
Speaker 1: right at least? Well I knew, I knew for real
Speaker 1: before the nap tunes. Yeah. Um, long story shot. He
Speaker 1: used to come out neighborhood. WI grew up at Huntsville.
Speaker 1: He was coming out there back then, and that's how
Speaker 1: we initially met and then linked back up a couple
Speaker 1: of years later when he was doing music. But when
Speaker 1: you got met, were you doing music already in the beginning? Now?
Speaker 1: But I got a wild story that like when I um,
Speaker 1: when I first linked back up with him, I heard
Speaker 1: he was doing music and I've seen him in the
Speaker 1: club one night on my birthday and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I heard you doing music and he no, a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, you said he here that rapped. So he
Speaker 1: was like, you'll do something for me right now, and
Speaker 1: I was like super drunk. It was like my birthday
Speaker 1: and Ship. So I was like, Ship didn't even put
Speaker 1: me on the spot, but I brought for him. And
Speaker 1: then just like you'll come through see how the music
Speaker 1: world work, and then been rolling every since. It's been
Speaker 1: my mind. So how did you How do you feel
Speaker 1: when you've seen the clips the first take off? Oh no,
Speaker 1: I was happy for my brothers. Yeah, I was there
Speaker 1: for what wasn't all that I was there. I've seen that.
Speaker 1: I remember all that Protectlar because I want to say,
Speaker 1: like you know yea, oh no, it was like it's grinding.
Speaker 1: I remembering he was so excited about grinding. He told
Speaker 1: me coming to the gym and I flew, Oh, I
Speaker 1: drove to Yeah, he was in. Yeah, that were you
Speaker 1: when you was in the video of that crib that
Speaker 1: you they shot you and that's like, my people are
Speaker 1: doing right up the se from that. That was definitely
Speaker 1: still cooking. Crack out there, let's make some Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's just out there still cooking. Was crazy. But
Speaker 1: now to see the clips do the thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you understood when you was writing, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I'm alright, man. I stayed. I stayed the
Speaker 1: whole time. I stayed the whole time, understand as you would. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but to see the clips do it, man, was it
Speaker 1: went for all of us like you know, like you said,
Speaker 1: were from Virginie. You don't really get to see that.
Speaker 1: And just seeing you know, my family take off, it
Speaker 1: was like, let's go. And this is a question for
Speaker 1: both of y'all. How weird is it to see malice
Speaker 1: go one way and then push you? So this case,
Speaker 1: you wants some aces SPA because you know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm on that Prince Rogers, Nelson, Alight, we better know
Speaker 1: Nelson Rodgers want this guy one. You don't know this guy.
Speaker 1: So look so look when you mentioned guy, that's when
Speaker 1: I got to sit up in my seat. I gotta
Speaker 1: get it right, h What was your question again? The
Speaker 1: malice and pushing the difference? I just want to make
Speaker 1: sure because the purple brain is kicked in every time
Speaker 1: everybody one to three. I'm sorry. So that's a Swan
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen in the design district, Craig Robbins, I'm drop.
Speaker 1: Can we get this on film? Somebody? I always want to.
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to know, like like like, okay,
Speaker 1: so at Swan you can get just being clear on
Speaker 1: drain chants like I guess what they would be anything,
Speaker 1: any kind of any kind of officiating or you know,
Speaker 1: any kind of officiating in any level. It's like it's
Speaker 1: going to be on drain chance. Thank you to appreciating
Speaker 1: continue that flash it. He was talking about your question.
Speaker 1: So your question is about Malice and push you. So
Speaker 1: Malice had a conviction. Something came over him, and I
Speaker 1: never really got into it because I was afraid of it.
Speaker 1: I was afraid to hear what it was because I
Speaker 1: was afraid to hear that, Like if I heard it,
Speaker 1: it would transform me. It's funny, and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: a T shirt that says beats in the hood, right,
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something right now, with the
Speaker 1: simple rearrangement of the st it could go from beats
Speaker 1: to beasts. And that's kind of like what I was
Speaker 1: feeling at the time when I saw Malice being hit.
Speaker 1: I was afraid of asking what happened to him because
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't I wasn't ready for it. I
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for it. He told me was gonna transform me,
Speaker 1: and what hit him so long ago hit me later
Speaker 1: on in my life. And when we saw him go
Speaker 1: through that transformation, all of us we had the utmost respect.
Speaker 1: But you need to know I don't think just because
Speaker 1: a person a person has accepted God in their lives
Speaker 1: or in their life, that they don't think the same
Speaker 1: things or have the same instincts. Their instincts may change.
Speaker 1: But who you are is who you are. And when
Speaker 1: God enters your when God and the universe enters your life,
Speaker 1: what you are doesn't change what to you, what you are,
Speaker 1: it remains the same. But what you do it for,
Speaker 1: that's what changes. And I wasn't ready for that. I
Speaker 1: was afraid of that. But then, like you know, when
Speaker 1: I did, like get lucky, blurred lines and happy at
Speaker 1: the same year, and all that ship came out. The
Speaker 1: ship wigged me the funk out right. I never touched
Speaker 1: cocaine one of those. And by the way, by the way, already,
Speaker 1: let me be real clear about that. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that do. And I ain't got nothing against him. Bro.
Speaker 1: You see a lot of cocaine sessions. Part about it,
Speaker 1: all of it, Man, A lot of people fun with coke. Bro.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't judge, man,
Speaker 1: we judge, we see. Oh so here's the thing, bro,
Speaker 1: they're fucking judging you. Man, not judging nobody people do
Speaker 1: ship like that, and it's okay, people do other ship.
Speaker 1: You know what you could be do you be doing worse?
Speaker 1: You could be a fucking like you could be a
Speaker 1: sex trafficker. Wait a minute, you could be a fucking pedophile.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you could be a fucking kidnapper. There's
Speaker 1: so many things you could fucking be if that's what
Speaker 1: you've chosen, because that ship makes you feel better than ever.
Speaker 1: I don't condone it, and I'm not gonna celebrate you,
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna judge you. And that's the most
Speaker 1: important part. I'm gonna judge you. Judging that that, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: there would be no Miami like that ship built Miami.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, game boys, right and ship both. I'm
Speaker 1: not celebrating it and I'm not condoning it. But what
Speaker 1: I am not doing, I'm gonna what I'm also not doing.
Speaker 1: I'm just not just tosting you. I'm just tolting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I've told you though, feel up because it's that
Speaker 1: big boy. Look what I'm saying. What I'm saying to
Speaker 1: you is white white society living. Come on, family. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you is what we gotta stop doing,
Speaker 1: even when it's the ship that we hate. What we
Speaker 1: gotta do is we gotta stop judging, bro, because the
Speaker 1: judging is what what keeps people doing dark ship and
Speaker 1: dark circles and hiding it versus like saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you, brother, and I'm not judging you, brother.
Speaker 1: I'm angry at what you're doing, but I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at you because I realized something that's happened to you
Speaker 1: and that you need help. And unfortunately, what happens with cocaine,
Speaker 1: it's like people get caught up in that place where
Speaker 1: they feel like they can't really say it. They're either
Speaker 1: celebrating it or they're hiding it. And what we need
Speaker 1: to do is we got to get to a place
Speaker 1: as black people in the Latin X where we say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna judge you. I just
Speaker 1: feel like you might need a little bit of help
Speaker 1: and there are functional users. By the way of all kinds.
Speaker 1: I'll just be honest with you. We love cocaine stories. Here.
Speaker 1: You have a cocaine story. I do not. I do
Speaker 1: not not at all, not at all. I know I
Speaker 1: know I have cocaine stories that I'm not gonna gonna
Speaker 1: gonna share for my friends who were who were absolutely
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking game. I would never And that's because,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you why, I would never respect
Speaker 1: that watch this purple rain sip. I would never share
Speaker 1: because I always made it very clear to my friends
Speaker 1: who were involved in that business. Brother don't involve me,
Speaker 1: because I'm telling so. I would never share because there's
Speaker 1: nothing for me to share except that one part. Don't
Speaker 1: do no ship in front of me, because I ain't
Speaker 1: built like that. You're tough, you live that life. You
Speaker 1: do what you do. Don't share that ship with me
Speaker 1: because I ain't built for it. No one one is
Speaker 1: my friend, you know. So I say this, So I
Speaker 1: say this, like, look, we gotta get to a place
Speaker 1: as a culture where we start to like embrace our
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters all their flaws. They're gonna all do
Speaker 1: some ship that you don't like. But you know what,
Speaker 1: we live in this world, and you know what, it
Speaker 1: don't matter who won this White House. What matters is
Speaker 1: the general population. And seventy one, seventy one million of
Speaker 1: them agree with some things that don't really agree with
Speaker 1: latin X. You see, we have a we have a
Speaker 1: we have a a system here in America. When you
Speaker 1: make it to the American beaches, you can request for it,
Speaker 1: like you know asylum, right, yeah, what food for Cubans.
Speaker 1: But then we have them that that that that think
Speaker 1: to themselves law, they should be arrested. You see. We
Speaker 1: need to spend more more time empathizing. So I'm not
Speaker 1: judging my black brothers and my brown brothers. I'm not
Speaker 1: judging anyone really at the end of the day. What
Speaker 1: we gotta do is we gotta learn empathy. Man. And
Speaker 1: there's some ship that you're gonna look at. You gonna
Speaker 1: be like, now, funk with that at all. But you
Speaker 1: gotta understand that's a sickness, bro. Education as well. We
Speaker 1: got to educate people more things, educate ourselves, and educate
Speaker 1: each other because there are sitnesses in history. Motherucker's don't
Speaker 1: know street anymore, so they don't have no historical context.
Speaker 1: You don't know shit. We gotta get to that place.
Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is I'm not I'm not there
Speaker 1: right now. Where where I'm at is. Look, I'm not perfect,
Speaker 1: I'm not special. What I am is I'm lucky to
Speaker 1: be alive and to exist and be able to to
Speaker 1: to contribute, to be a conduit, two things to to
Speaker 1: the greater purpose, and that is for us unifying and
Speaker 1: accepting each other and educating each other where we can,
Speaker 1: and not judging. That's the problem. The judging is that's
Speaker 1: what fox us, you know, because they do what the
Speaker 1: fun they do all the fucking time, and then when
Speaker 1: that person does it, go, oh, he's a fucked up individual. No,
Speaker 1: all of you motherfucker's do that. It's just that that
Speaker 1: one got caught. But for us, we and when I
Speaker 1: say us, I mean people who know that they're not perfect.
Speaker 1: Not just color lines, not just sexual lines, are genitalia lines.
Speaker 1: Because some people don't have identify as gener dir what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about his spirit. If you identify as generally
Speaker 1: a good spirit but you've got some issues, guess what
Speaker 1: you are. You're fucking human. Right. We gotta get to
Speaker 1: a place where the good spirits get together and say, look,
Speaker 1: none of us are perfect, but let's hold each other
Speaker 1: accountable and let's get each other to help that. We
Speaker 1: need to get to that great place because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, this land was Native American. It
Speaker 1: was built by black skin and black sweat. And the
Speaker 1: first commodity traded ever in this country was on Wall Street?
Speaker 1: What do you think it was? People? Okay? And that's
Speaker 1: because we had to stand against the what what do
Speaker 1: we have to stand against the wall? Why do you
Speaker 1: think they call it wall Street? That's us. So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I don't give a funk what color you are,
Speaker 1: if you have some sort of good spirit in you,
Speaker 1: we need to unify, bro. We got to educate each
Speaker 1: other and stop judging. And you know what, we also
Speaker 1: need to stand behind our minorities man like, you know,
Speaker 1: not just black, not just Latin X, but also l
Speaker 1: g B, t q I, because they're human beings. They
Speaker 1: gotta brain, they gotta mind, they have ambitions to be acknowledged. Yea. Like, listen,
Speaker 1: just because you don't agree and you don't get it,
Speaker 1: it ain't for you to agree. You know what it's
Speaker 1: for you to do stand there and be there for
Speaker 1: your brother and your sister and whatever God God deems judgeable.
Speaker 1: Let God and that person deal with that. You ain't
Speaker 1: the fucking judge of the jury. We need to be
Speaker 1: there for each other. That's what we need. That's what
Speaker 1: I want for my brother, That's what what I want.
Speaker 1: That's what I want for for for for Draking Pusha,
Speaker 1: That's what I want for you name it. All the
Speaker 1: people that got good in their heart. Man, you saw
Speaker 1: God's plan. You know who Drake is. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if you look at them, and if
Speaker 1: you and if you look at and if you look
Speaker 1: at what Pusha has done for like Virginia, like you
Speaker 1: know what the funk he is like, we gotta we
Speaker 1: have to unify all the good willingness that we have
Speaker 1: in our hearts. That's what we need to unify. And
Speaker 1: I know people of partly listening to be like funk that,
Speaker 1: but listen, after everything I've been through and all the
Speaker 1: sessions I've been in, and the people that I've encountered,
Speaker 1: and the people who have enlightened me and taken me
Speaker 1: to a two different places and different heights, this is
Speaker 1: this is my result. This is my son. If you
Speaker 1: ask me, if I add up everything I've ever done
Speaker 1: in my life, from listening to my parents to get
Speaker 1: my wife, my kids, my family, listen is God is
Speaker 1: the greatest and we got to be loyal to that. Bro.
Speaker 1: Also got to ask you the same question cut you
Speaker 1: Lee super thuck. If you cut me, and this is
Speaker 1: where I know I need to sign off Christmas. If
Speaker 1: you cut me right now, what will come? Who'sin't out
Speaker 1: of my my body? My God is different? Got them?
Speaker 1: My God? God got need some gutting family, you know,
Speaker 1: being down down the left tunes from the beginning, How
Speaker 1: does it feel like, you know to see this guy
Speaker 1: and this a Luxuria's a beautiful position that he is
Speaker 1: and use an artist, I won't be Yeah, yeah, to
Speaker 1: be honest, this is my brother, man, Like what's good
Speaker 1: form is good for me? Just dead like as he grow,
Speaker 1: I learned what makes some Graham made me happy. This's
Speaker 1: my brother. So it's like, I'm happy man. I love
Speaker 1: to see what he is. And I sat from the
Speaker 1: music and all the stuff you're doing. That's really like
Speaker 1: my brother. So I'm happy. God, this was great. I'm gonna.
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