WEBVTT - Episode 241 w/ Pharrell 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.480 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:18.400 and I heart Radio and his Drink chas motherfucking podcast. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.160 He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's see it's your boy 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:24.960 in O R He's a Miami hip hop and mioneer 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.000 is d j e f N. Together they drink it 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:31.680 up with some of the biggest players in the most professional, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.840 unprofessional podcast and yet number one source for drunk fast 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.840 drinks motherfuckings New Year's e. That's time for Drink Champs. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:50.400 Trick up, motherfuck mother would a good being, hopefully super 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.400 This is your boy in O R E. What up 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.960 is dj e FN And this is Miller Tammy Crazy Bold. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:56.840 I don't know why I keep saying that Happy Hour 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:03.760 drinks as motherfucker happy hour makes some Now, when we 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.560 started this show, we said we wanted to do legends only. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.960 So this brother that's standing in front of me, for me, 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:18.920 is the best producer of all times, all times. I'm 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:24.240 talking about. This is our Quincy Jones. I see him 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.319 see music. I've seen him come into a session and 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.280 just say yo and just change it and just this 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:36.560 session become turquoise or purple and it just changed. The 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.720 man has. He's a producer. There's people that make beats 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.440 and there's people that produce. This is the producers producer. 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.800 Then he's verged on into being an artist and he 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.720 conquered dad and he he can work from anybody to 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:01.520 an r A to Madonna and make it make The 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:07.440 man is like Jesus. He walks on water and I 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.919 don't see the pillow cases gone. In case you don't 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.519 know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the incredible, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:22.919 the impeccable for brown. Motherfucking Now, I purposely didn't look 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.120 at you when I was saying that, because I know 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.160 how humble you are. You know, I know if for 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.120 twenty years. I know how humble you are. But you 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.359 are to certain people, fucking to certain people you are 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.800 to me, I want the best producer of all time. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.680 Like I mean, I've worked with everyone. This is me, 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.320 me and my career. Um, you're you're the best producer 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.160 I've ever worked with. Well, first of all, let me 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.200 just say that I am. I'm you guys can hear me? Okay, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:55.720 I'm I'm wearing my mask because I got nineteen kids 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.720 and my parents are approaching seventies. So you know, we 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.720 all tested it, but I'm just my wife testing everybody say, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.520 maybe it's like, let's do it. That's how I poured 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.360 you off. For us, we still got to do it. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:13.520 Back to pouring you off. But being that you're not 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.840 going to drink a spade are you're not gonna drink it? 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.760 Because you know jay Z personally acts, would you get 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.840 you high and some space? So if you're not keep 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.720 picking with your bottle, actually drink why not the penguin? 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:29.800 I already know what got damn I already knew what 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.679 good damn it. But okay, so I wanted to say 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:39.120 first and foremost, um uh, congratulations on you know, the 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:44.080 continuation of your career. Um. And when I say continuation, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.760 I mean we're all pluralist. And somehow, when you're in 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.920 the music industry, they convince you to only focus on 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.080 one thing because they feel like, you know, they only 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.400 want you to pay attention to their interest. And eventually, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.880 you know, the the the the the people in senior 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:06.800 leadership positions of these companies recognize that these other potential 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.040 revenue streams for these artists could also be you know, 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:17.279 contributors to the marketing to their partnership. Um, but you 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.520 saw this early, you were on this early. I remember 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.240 when you were talking to me about it, like, yeah, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.560 you know what I'm thinking about going into this thing, 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.960 Like I got this idea, I got this concept always 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.719 have a camera. I didn't know why you always have 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.240 a camera. My point is you were one of the 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:38.039 first to do that, and and and you stayed focused 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.800 until you realize exactly how you could, like you know, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.360 grow the audience and monetize it. And I think that's 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.560 a that's beautiful. And I want to also say that 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.320 I am grateful that you would even you know that 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:55.000 I'm you even want to have me on more because 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.080 I think you guys, you guys talk about things that 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.839 because I feel like, you know, you bring interesting guests 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.520 on here, who really really say things that sometimes shock people, 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.200 sometimes enlightened people. And I feel like, you know, you know, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.159 I've always been like that about myself, Like I don't 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.039 really find myself interesting. I'm always interested in the people 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.440 I can collaborate with. So I've always felt like I 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:24.960 would always be like a boring interview. I'm just saying 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.320 thank you beginning than in the beginning, that's when I 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.360 googled you, which you know your person. I shouldn't have 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.880 to google, but I wanted to do my research thoroughly. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:39.719 So it said early nineties. Now, when they say early nineties, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.640 what do they mean? Like? What was what? Were you 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.440 and Chad hooked up in school? Correct? Yeah? Yeah, we 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:49.120 were in high school. Um, started making music then. Um 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.080 we met when we were like twelve, started making music 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.640 when we're like fifteen sixteen. Um, we got discovered when 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:58.800 we were in high school. And so once we got 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:02.640 out of high school, Um, you know, we went straight 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:07.359 in with Teddy and uh people. Yeah, Teddy Riley, you 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.599 know he did you know the Dangerous album. He did 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.599 a lot of songs on a Dangerous album with Michael. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:15.400 I mean, he's Teddy is a legend. Um it takes two. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.360 I mean the show, Yeah, the show with Dougie Fresh 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:23.920 rig like he's yeah, yeah, yeah, guy Black Street, He's 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.440 I could just keep going on with this guy. The 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.920 guy did Johnny Kimps just got paid. Or you want 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.960 whatever you want, it's whatever you we live in your world. Brother, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:37.440 you want some Swan Swan tequila? You know what I'm 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.080 gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with the sense sah, 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.520 we don't know how to open that, but we'll figure 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.600 it out. Okay, So I'm gonna go with the say 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.560 so when they say early nineties, Our first thing that 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:53.880 we ever did was Tonights Tonight for Black Street. Whoa 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.000 and then um and that was That was written by 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:02.320 Tammy Lucas, who was on that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.640 She's the reason why Teddy paid attention to us. By 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.000 the way she she went to Teddy was like, Yo, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.040 you gotta pay attention to these guys. Wow. Yeah. The 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:14.280 rumor is that you guys ghost produced. That's the rumor. 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.440 The truth is, my first time meeting Teddy, it was 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.520 like eleven o'clock at night, which this is when I 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.920 first realized that, like people in the music industry are vampires, 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.120 right people talking to me about being a vampire, these 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.560 guys are vampires. They literally wake up in the evening 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.440 and the session doesn't start until eleven, sometimes two o'clock 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.480 in the morning, and then they go until you know, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.120 it's like eight o'clock in the morning. You leave in 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.400 the studio, you're listening to what you just did. You 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:41.920 know what I'm saying that was that was a new 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.880 world to me. That's that's when Teddy showed me like 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.680 there was a nocturnal world of creativity. I never knew that, right. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.360 We we worked like we went to work. We work 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.600 in the daytime and ship and that's on purpose that 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.760 they would work that way. Yeah, yeah, but it's it's 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.440 a very real thing. Thank you your brother. Um and 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.800 then um, so I put the record. I don't know 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:06.400 if you answered that or not. Yeah, get into tonight tonight. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.160 No no, no, I no know know tonight tonight. And 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.400 I'm saying but but before tonight tonight, my first time 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.400 meeting Teddy, he was working on rum Shaker. It was 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.760 like eleven o'clock at night. So I want to do 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:24.200 with zoom zoom zoom. They had everything. I Kill had 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.800 put his first down, markl had his verse down, and 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.320 Teddy was like, yo, you know, can you know? Can 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.480 you can you you? I heard you wrap? It was 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.440 like yeah, He's like, can you write my verse for me? 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.600 I was like, all right, cool, rapp your verse? All 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.120 right right? Right? Yeah? He said can you write my 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.160 verse to me? So I went in and like, I 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:48.679 don't know, you know, this is breaking news for us 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.200 because I was confirmed or not the story. So the 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.199 room was you made the beat, so that's where the 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.160 people people mistake that, But no, I could never I 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.240 could have never made that beat. That beat with like 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.400 that beat transcended genres to me. You know, we don't 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.439 know if you knew. Our show was about saluting our brothers. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.680 So we want to salute you. Salute you, my brother, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:11.679 because you know all motherfucking vampire boy did all this. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:17.360 We love you. So you wrote Teddy's verse. Let's take 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.960 it from there boom. Then what happened on a Classic 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.600 Records that's still to this day bumps. And then now 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:26.800 this is your your because would you produce all artists? First? 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.719 That was my next where we were we were just 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.359 like we were self we can just we considered ourselves 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.640 self contained artists. You know what I'm saying, you can 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.880 do it all. Listen. You know what I love this 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.240 is like so like this is like so thug, super thug, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:47.640 barbershop ship, people got all masks, people smoking weeds, you 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.960 can we're smoking to drinking that you were contained. We're 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:55.679 definitely here. By the way, why the only weirdos ever 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.640 want to mask in them? So far? Okay, don't Okay? 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:12.520 When you're your family listening drink. So was that your 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.360 first time, like, because I'm know I'm bouncing all over 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.559 the place, but you know, I've had sessions with you 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.800 with you for twenty years, and I've walked into sessions 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.760 sometimes where you working with an artist and you would 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.520 have a complete record for them, and I just never 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.560 knew that. I didn't knew. I don't know that sounds 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.640 a little ghetto new, but I didn't know that people 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.839 would present records like that. I think I think that 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.160 was the first experience I ever saw like where he 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.680 was like you, like you was like us, your justin 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.560 tim and it would be you do the whole. I 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.040 didn't know that that's what you did at the time, 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:46.200 like it blew me away. I think it was in 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.199 South Beast studios, the Marling studios once and I was 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.000 just you just playing me records and I was sitting 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:54.480 back like, holy ship, I didn't know that's what you did. Well, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.559 you know, it's interesting that you say that, because when 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.320 you say South Beat, you take me back to when 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.800 we made nothing that's right, and you were you were 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.080 kind enough because I knew that beat, the original beat 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.800 was not good enough and and they were kind of 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.800 like I think even Christmas, like what you're talking about? 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.679 Like what do you mean? Like it's it's cool? And 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.560 I was like no, now, and now come on, let's 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:19.360 just let me. I'm gonna tell you my side. Do 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:24.800 you tell me yours? This is gonna be a little 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.079 long story, but just just sticking. I had just look 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:31.120 next stoor to me at the time, was driving me back. 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.040 He's driving all this crep. I'm I'm I'm good, but 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.439 I'm not y'all real good. So I go do a 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:43.800 record like Opposo and Leo cons comes to the studio. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.840 I don't know if you knew this part. I don't 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.319 know if you know the part. But Leo Cohens comes 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.120 to the studio and he has the Jar Rule video 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.760 and he plays it and it's me with my boys 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.640 running around with Lamborghinis and you know, just just all 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:00.839 this fancy rich shit. And he goes to me, how 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.680 do you like it? And I go, I love it? 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.040 And my boys like you love it? And then Leo 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:10.800 says it's popcorn. And I never looked at popcorner is 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.920 a bad thing in my life. He said it's popcorn, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.120 and I was like what, but he meant pop he said. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.840 He said, he said, I want to tell you a story, Nori. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.640 So he said, if I cut you, what would you bleed? 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.719 So I said, I would bleed blood, he said, And 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.960 I asked me the same question. So I said, if 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:31.079 I cut you, what would you bleed? New york On 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:36.880 said run dmc sucker mc. So I looked at him. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.760 I was like, damn, that's fucking great answer. I didn't 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:41.720 say that. So he says to me, I'm gonna ask 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.400 you this one more time as your solo career. If 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.959 I cut you, what would you bleed? I said, super 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:51.960 thug And he said exactly. For I was in Virginia 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.760 waiting for you go out there, and he had already 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.199 set up a session with you. So I've rented Virginia. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:01.079 Remember the original was, are you dudes really ready to ride? 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.839 All you do? Want to come inside? You want to 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.559 ride and ready to ride? So what you want to do? 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:13.520 It was a whole different beat. Yeah, it was a 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.760 whole different beat, and there's a whole different intro to that. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.320 And you told me to study the Jungle Brothers. You 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:23.280 remember that. So he was like, um, it was uncle saying, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.719 Mike g say what the joint the slam with his 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.000 bandage of Chris that joint this slammed five thousand boom 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.160 and watch sound System stated at all now listen to 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.559 nothing and all pop beat say what that man with 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.840 his manager christ and then labeled the jest flaws. So 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:40.760 on your watch you ain't you dudes her ground you 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:45.720 maybe still you know what I'm saying. This can't tell 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:53.200 he's a friendly with the Jungle Brothers. Don't. But you 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.120 know what the first one you gave me before that 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.320 it was he was like, Yo, listen to Vanilla Ice 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.280 Ice Ice Baby, you remember that? You know what that was? 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.760 I back, younger, who I can't do it? You gave 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.640 me that first. I said, I can't. I can't for 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:11.240 that ice. So if you listen to the fast holliba younger, whoa, whoa, 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:22.400 it's Ice Ice Baby. All right, So let's let's let's 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:24.920 bring it back. Yeah, we fast forward it a little bit, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:30.000 but there. So let's get back to you writing all 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.360 these music because at first, like I just thought you 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.920 was a hip hop producer. I didn't realize how how 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.360 super talented you was. Like when you deliver these records 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.400 of the people, these people you're giving them a piece 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:45.640 of your soul. Like how did you develop that? Is 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.080 that producing producing? Or is that we were just finding 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.040 our way? You know what I'm saying. I think I 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.400 think for us more than anything else, it was more 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:59.240 like you know, um, we we were like, man, we're 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.800 from Virginia. We don't know how long this is gonna last. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.720 Like yo, take that opportunity and like really really excavate 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.400 as much as you can out of it, you know, 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.040 all the excavate all the opportunity out of it that 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.360 you can. It's like, yeah, I'm working with guys out 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.920 of New York. I'm in Virginia. Like you know, there's 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.400 no deaf jam in in in Norfolk. There's no like 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.840 r c A in Virginia Beach. Like who wasn't like 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.040 Mad Skills was one of the few that had come out. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.000 Yeah but he was, but he was up the road 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:33.480 so he wasn't really around him like that because Virginia Beach, right, yeah, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.040 we Virginia Beach. We love him. That's our brother. But 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.480 like you know, that was like up the road. You 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.840 know that that Richmond mas was. It wasn't Maryland or 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.600 d C. But it might as well have been in 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.720 terms of distance, like drop the hand that he dropped 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:50.320 a Newport new the Richmond was like that was Viina, 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.800 like the beginning of the South. No, because botom Ale 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.800 is not the South. Maryland is not the South. Then 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.280 it's it's the South starts in Virginia. So Maryland is 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.760 the South. Baltimore is the South. It's Virginia. Botimore was 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:08.280 not the South. Technically it is. Yeah. Yeah, forty three 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.080 years on this earth means nothing. I've never thought of 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.120 the bottoms to be in the South. I don't know 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.000 if people in Baltimore consider themselves the South. Yeah, but 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.560 that's the South. Even in football or south it's eastern 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.960 football right sunny look up Okay, eastern. But but it's 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.560 like it's not New York. It's like d m V. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.000 We're like the south west. You know, we all listen 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.840 to go go. DC is considered the south too. I 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:36.040 mean that's like child is all funked up right now. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.640 You can say, you can say it's up north from US, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.360 but it's south of New York. New York feels like 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.800 north to us. Up north is the state area. I'm 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:53.200 saying d C still is East Coast Okay, I think 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:55.560 what you're thinking the Tri State area is what is 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:59.600 the real Northeast. That's it. That's all we got. We 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:07.040 got New York and that's pretty much your east to us. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.520 I thought Bortomore was us Nah Bottomore or No, that's 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.560 like look how it look. Look that's a whole other 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.320 world where they dressed the way talk. Everything that's not 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.120 Philly is another world. But it's still a part of us. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.000 Philly is. But by the way, that's why they're part 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:28.439 of the Tri State. You feel me like, once you 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.359 get outside of the Try State, like you know, you 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.480 get to that, you know, you start to get into 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.560 them different kind of drawls, sudden draws, and you know 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.760 what I'm saying, the way they dressed different and the 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.400 fact that first of all, I think Philly is probably 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.399 Philly is where mcs are born. They just grow into 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.640 the goodness, you know what I'm saying. And the music there, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:54.280 the musicality there is unbelievable, you know what I'm saying. Um, 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.000 But when as soon as you get outside of that, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.480 you hit that d C you know, go, go, I 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.040 see people fishing in the club. Yeah, crazy, that's that 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:08.600 Bake song. So you can see yourself a self producer. Yes, yes, 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:10.639 But you know, if I'm gonna say like where it 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.720 came from first, right off the cuff, And I don't 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.439 want abody to get mad at me, because my Maryland 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.160 folks was mad at me when I said something about 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:18.920 Go Go, and I didn't really mean in that way 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.879 this because I was only really thinking about Baltimore at 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.199 the time. But you know, when I think about like 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.960 music coming out of the South, I'm gonna say Atlanta 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:32.560 and and and Miami to me, at Miami made a 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.760 lot of noise influence to you what from these areas influence? 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.919 First of all, I mean in the eighties, like the 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.160 Miami base was like everything you know what I'm saying, 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.480 like the Gucci Cruise and stuff like that, and it 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:56.760 looks like so powerful, ready to claim Yeah wow, okay, 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:03.800 all right, so bouncing around right the nerves, yes, sir, 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.040 all right? What is the difference from the Nerves and 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.480 the Neptunes? So any r D was created because for 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.800 a very long time we were trying as artists as 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.479 the Neptunes to get a deal, but that never happened 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.360 because I was just way too out there and too 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.159 crazy and and time wasn't ready for me, and I 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:27.520 wasn't ready for time um um, and so the context 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.679 just never made sense. But then you know, it just 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.399 started like my influence being out there more like with 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:36.000 the way I dress and you know, just like you know, 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.280 like swagging and like saucing on other people's records and ship. 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.120 The market started to warm up and pretty much the gatekeepers, 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.040 the A and R s had to it had to 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:47.320 be their idea first. When I was presenting, and it 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.399 was like, remember, like I'd never forget your manager, rest 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:55.040 in peace, love baby, Chris Man, I'll never forget. Like 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.719 one day I was just like rapping so long, just 0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:59.240 kind of you know because at the time I could 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.520 also like free St Island Ship and I was freestyling, 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.719 and then they like picked up the phone call like 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:09.760 while I was still rapping, and uh, I was just 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.880 so full of myself at that time. I didn't give 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.520 a ship. I just kept rapping or whatever. Like Rob 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.440 Walker tell you that was a very funny story because 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.000 Chris is like, yeah, you're hold on the second, I'm 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:19.639 still rapping and ship. He walked out and take a 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.000 call and come back, like you know, Chris was real 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.639 like that, and uh, but it was it was one 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:31.119 of those things where like it just wasn't that time. 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.320 So by the time we met Calise and then we 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:41.640 put her album out over at Virgin you know, Keith Uh, 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.960 Keith Woods at the time. Yeah, Janet Jackson, Lenneykravis and 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:47.840 a lot of great rock acts were there. And that's 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.600 so it's like after we did the Callise album, um, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.399 and she came out and she was a she was 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:59.840 a success. Um. We felt like they felt like, you know, 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:01.840 what about you guys, Why don't you guys make a record? 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:02.960 I was like, well, I don't want to make a 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.400 record calling neptunes. At this point we're known as production, 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.000 like we need to be something else. And that's when 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.480 No One Ever Really Dies was born, which was n 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.159 r D. But you thought, to a certain sting, you 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:14.560 thought that was captain like calling yourself nerves because you're 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.720 really not a nerd. No, but we're not. If you 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.600 think about it right, it's an acronym, which is no 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:22.359 one ever really dies? Do you have? You know, the 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:26.040 revision of the Nerds. Those guys were horn dogs. They 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.800 were bad, they were horny dudes a thing, you know. 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:35.000 But I don't think looks. But here's the thing. We 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:36.840 grew up in the nineties, right, We grew up in 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.479 the eighties and the nineties where the nerds ended up 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.160 They were nerds in school, but they ended up like 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.679 driving the BMW's and the Mercedes, you know, and getting 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:51.159 the all the nerds from. So we thought that was 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.240 super cool. Every time that comes on, I think it's 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:57.560 a beat about the drop because there's a note go 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:09.280 it goes bones. Look at you to Um, I want 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.280 to get back to you for a bit because I 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.560 know you're humble and I respect that, but you need 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:22.840 to be giving your flowers. Um, you're actually, if if not, 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.640 the best whild I say you are. But the wait 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:32.400 Quincy Jones put melodies together and put projects together, your 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.960 Quincy Jones of Wrapped. Can you accept that? I cannot? 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:41.760 Oh my god, we're gonna you also you also you also. 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.040 Let's take a shot of your swan ship. Let's go. 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:46.840 Let's take a shot of that. What is it called? 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.280 It doesn't matter, it's it's a shot. It's called it's 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:54.040 called purple rain. Purple Oh got shot? Classes, Okay, give 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.560 me some of that. It's not a shot it's more 0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:59.680 of a set. But okay, but we're gonna take the shot. 0:23:00.440 --> 0:23:05.280 Goddamn you gotta gotta he already ready, goddamnit. Don't give 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.000 me a shot of that too. Okay, please gonna don't 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:13.720 we shot? Don't shots special ohip big boy from the Outcast. 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.840 Just text me. That's crazy. We got goody map on Monday. 0:23:17.240 --> 0:23:19.160 I'm so glad you're I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:26.240 take a shot. I don't don't leaven forgetting my subject. Okay, 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.080 you look so so. Let me let me take my 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.800 mass off of this law for give me. I'm I'm 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.920 not supposed to be doing this crazy No, of course, 0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.600 take my shot off just to say this slut you know, 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:51.200 cheers immediately text me since I took that so so so. 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.560 When you first introduced me, you said super kind things, 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.480 but you also included Jesus, and I just want to 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:00.960 be clear, like for anybody that us believe, or people 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:04.560 who are atheists or whatever, God is the absolute greatest. 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.840 I could never ever be compared. And I knew it was. 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.000 I knew you were being colorful, I knew you were 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:12.480 being poetic. I was trying to do a parable of course, 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:16.359 of course, but I just have to humble myself in 0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:20.360 that moment to just be like, Yo, God is the greatest. 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:24.120 You gotta show about God on Netflix? Right, my uncle 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.920 does call voices of fire? Okay, is this about? Let's 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.399 break that down. So that is my uncle, um, And 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:30.760 then I want to get back to giving it up 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:35.240 to the guy. So you know, my uncle, um it 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.679 was a child prodigy and uh at playing piano, and 0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:42.280 he was as a renowned um on the gospel world, 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:45.760 was a renowned organist and pianist. They played for a 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.720 lot of churches and at some point, you know, it 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:54.240 was his calling to also become a pastor, and he 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.600 became a bishop. And I just thought, man, if he 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:02.320 has all of that talent and was known previously as 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:06.400 being this great, you know musician, that his choir needed 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.919 to be amazing. And Hampton Rhodes has so much talent 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.720 that we wanted to make sure that we gave them 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:15.919 a platform to build the you know, a great choir 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.520 that pulled from all of you know, Newport News, Hampton, 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:28.160 Newport News, Hampton, Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Poor Smith, um Chesapeake, 0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.840 Suffolk to pull them all in to get the best 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.399 people who could arguably all sing lead if they wanted to, 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.639 but have to work within the confines of being a 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.760 choir and not being the one to sing the lead. 0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:43.919 So being so good that you're able to be humble 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.720 and can be part of something bigger than yourself. So 0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:54.360 that was Voices of Fire. That's beautiful. So I want 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.440 to go back to this thing. God is the greatest 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:04.960 man God, And I'm not I'm not perfect, I'm not sinless, 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.359 but I know when I look over, like I used 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.320 to say it on all my like like a lot 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.119 of a lot of my career, like, man, why me? 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:15.040 Like how did I get here? I know you've questioned, 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.240 and I'm sure you have as well. But the key 0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:23.160 is is because I think I think the universe puts 0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.040 us in this position because they because it knows that 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:30.080 we're going to give back. It knows that we are 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.840 gonna take our experiences and share the codes where the 0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.080 other brothers and sisters. And that's the reason why, you know, 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.159 maybe somebody else might not have wanted to share the codes. 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:42.119 And you know that in the music industry where you 0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.520 see some people doing well, other people not. And it's 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.879 only until you start feeling lucky that someone pulls you 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:48.639 to the side and gives you the code, Like, why 0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:52.000 should we feel Lucky's branch Avenci positive energy? Positive Avencie 0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:57.680 sometimes positive energy. Why why why should we feel lucky 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.760 that our brother or our sisters sharing the cod That's 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.080 something wrong with the culture, you know what I'm saying. 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.800 So for me, I know it's my duty. I know 0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:10.360 I'm not just having these experiences because my own glorification, 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.800 on my own enjoyment. It's because I'm meant to share 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.719 the codes, and we're getting the shot of purple rain, 0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.159 and we just got to continue to do that. We 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.320 got to share the cod. MA don't got to have 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:24.560 colds got so I want to know the shot of 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:26.080 purple rain. Got THEAMN. I don't know what it is. 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.000 I'm not even ask what it is. No, it's just 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.480 it's it's it has tequila in there. But that there's 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:33.520 a there's a natural flower that turns the purple. M hmm. 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.040 I'm bouncing around a little bit right now. We got 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.320 the human race, yes, sir, okay, you got they got 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.040 skin cream too. Yeah, that is that cold human race 0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.640 as well. Yeah, so this sneakers apparel human race, right, 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.360 and then skincare. By the way, we got a box, fring. 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.720 You got a boxing damn it? Can we can? We 0:27:54.760 --> 0:28:00.000 bring it out? Hut me and my wife remember my 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.880 right right there, we're gonna do some STI kid gotta 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:13.800 damn it. You're gonna do it. A looks beautiful your filming, filming, Okay, okay, 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.800 can you open it so? I want you? Okay, alright, cool, 0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:22.480 I'm not a good opening. Yeah yeah, I'm not a 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.080 good Give him his gift. We got some gifts too. 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:26.800 We're sunny d We got to gift from you too. 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:30.960 Goddamn holy ship. All I can take the tape off right, 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:39.480 all right, cool, all right, boom, all right, now when 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.920 you got the campus, zoom in on it. Thank you, 0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.840 thank you, thank you. This this is too fly. You 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.400 know what I'm saying. This is double box. You know 0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:59.240 what I'm saying. Come on, okay, we'll help me out 0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.040 this way at leave your dominican. Dominican is not to 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:10.040 open every give it to him. You've been rags, bring 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:18.520 some much whatever it is. It looks beautiful. Good yeah, 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.440 and it's stuff right here too as well. And look 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:26.120 it's another box. It's like the Russian dead. Look at 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:30.760 that you focus it on that? Yo? Yeah, holy shit. 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.160 So this is so elegant. It's just like I feel 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:38.840 like I'm opening the g Q box you and thank 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:45.600 you and then give given. So here's the thing. Okay, 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:51.320 So that's right here. Oh, this out, This is made 0:29:51.360 --> 0:30:03.479 in Japan. This is ye, this right here, and then 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:05.400 this right here shows you like where to put it. 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.800 This goes in your room. So that's your rice pot 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.680 of cleanser. Wow, this is your exfoliator that has an 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:17.280 ah callic acid in it, and it also has the 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:21.480 lotus enzyme in there and that helps like exfoliate. And 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.160 then it's the humidifying thing which also has a snow 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.680 must room in it, which locks in. Noister, this is 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.600 what's gonna go in y'all bathroom, says goddamn god me two. 0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:39.240 Much like eating the massage, but no reason. Come on, yeah, 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.040 come on because the lead put it back together. Need 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.160 to please. I want to put it in my cock. 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:45.960 Come on, this is this. Let me take my shot. 0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:49.520 Let me take my shot. You did you hit your 0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.240 burger brain? Oh yeah? And the super doc o g short, 0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.520 you know, we gotta gotta go. That's I'm sorry, man, 0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.360 we love you for over here. Sorry, sorry, we love 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:08.600 you now. I know I'm bouncing around a little bit. Yeah, 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.760 but you got a chance to work with Snoop Dogg 0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.040 is after Snoop had went through his termorial with death 0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.560 Row and then uh he went to No Limit and 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.920 then after that, you got a chance to work with Snoop. 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.760 How how was that for you? So? I think I'm 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.160 trying to remember, and I'm really sorry if my memory 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.920 is not serving me correctly. But I think when we 0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.400 did church to the Palace and Beautiful, I think that was. 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:42.560 I think that was on No Limit. Yeah, Okay, I'm 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:48.600 not I'm not sure. I think that was. Yeah, I 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.480 think that was. Yeah, come on, how's you just sitting around? 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:58.880 Come on, I'm sitting around thinking like you limits? Still 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.480 that was? Yeah. I didn't feel like it might not 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.680 have been it was right after that because there was 0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:13.960 the one with Snoops Beautiful. I felt like that was 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.040 right after he left No Limit. Okay, maybe it was, Hey, 0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.240 but we got Google. We got we can't Google will 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.080 tell us we can't guess. Yeah, let it shine, let 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.520 it shine. Make sure you got that on camera? Oh man, Nah, 0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.280 thank you? Come on, I didn't even intend that. I 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.480 just wanted to present it to you. Let us Shoine 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:46.120 baby come on, just be here. Mm hmm. Wasn't that 0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:54.080 the one that was on the limit? That album Polly Graham, Well, 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:56.160 that's what he made. He became like an executive problem 0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.160 and he re released all those albums. But I guess 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.240 my question is to be a little sorry about that? 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.040 Is um, you know this is this is a legend, right, 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.479 He's worked with Dr Dre, He's working with all these 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.440 other people. Is that pressures for you to produce, do 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.880 something more? Or like what do you do like me 0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.480 in a situation like that? You know? I think pressure 0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:19.400 comes from um, from uh the idea of of of 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.040 having to face the idea or the notion that you 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:26.040 could fail. Right, And there's a lot of time that 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:27.480 there's a lot of people that spend a lot of 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.520 time doing that. And as I said to you before 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.360 we're from Virginia, I never lost that feeling like, man, 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.760 what I get a chance to work with Snoop? The 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.040 only thing I'm focused on and on is how crazy 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:41.440 it could be. And my only job is to try 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:46.320 to match what I'm doing with that feeling of man. 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.120 You're not crazy, this could be. That's when I knew, 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.200 just for a second, that's when I knew, like nothing 0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.920 was not where they needed to be until we got 0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.920 to that place and I was like, no, do you understand, Like, Yo, 0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:00.400 we did super Thunder, we gotta and we did no 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.880 exactly were fun right, and then even some of our 0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:11.360 like other records that weren't even singles are good, like 0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.920 we just we had joints like one of our underrated ones. 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.319 And then we'll go back to to to to big 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:23.680 bro snoop is um no, I'm a I'm a g Yeah, 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:29.279 I'm you know, it's pure. I was overweighted that time. 0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.239 I didn't translate in the video when the people see 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.160 me in the video, I didn't look believable. I was 0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.479 just overweight. I was stressed out. So it's my fault 0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:39.000 that record didn't work. I'mna be honest, I'm taking that one. 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.320 I'm gonna saying that one because like I mean, it 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.560 was it was translated because you know who picked that record. 0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.279 L A read el A. We hand picked that record. 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.200 He was like, I'm going to bat for this record, 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.560 but it was was. I was just so I was 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.200 dealing with so much at the time, I couldn't focus 0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.920 on me. So the record was great. But like I 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:57.719 told that to Buster, I was like, Yo, this time, 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.120 you know what what I'm Busters? I'm sorry my all 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.160 over the place. But Buster's album he has the look 0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.800 and the records. Sometimes you have the look and you 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.600 won't have the record. Sometimes you have the records, and 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.279 that's what do you enjoy Busters this album? Man, I'm 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:21.399 so happy for him. See directing these videos for Buss. Yeah, 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.759 that's what's so happy for him, bro, because he's doing 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.520 what he want to do now he want to do it, 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:27.279 and he's saying all the ship he want to say, 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.919 and by the way, he continues to reinvent himself every time. 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.520 You're definitely happy for Big Bro. Man. I enjoyed it, 0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.680 so let's get back too. So with Snoop, it was like, Man, 0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:44.120 he came in on his tour bus and uh, you know, 0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.520 he was like, Yo, just give me that ship and 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:51.000 I was like okay, and uh you know, uh he 0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:53.680 would we're working in there, and then like once I 0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.480 was ready, he would come down off his tour bus. 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.319 Because we were still working in um Master Sound at 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.000 the time was Hovercraft were with chat and I brought 0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:06.319 the studio and he when he came in, we did 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.480 Church the Palace. He loved that, and he really loved Beautiful. 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:13.560 I didn't. I didn't get beautiful. I didn't get Beautiful 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:17.719 mainly because I was on there singing flat as fuck 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:23.200 and um just just didn't hear it. I thought it 0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.839 was a fun record for Charlie Wilson, and I was like, man, 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.200 Charlie sounding amazing, and this feels good to me, but 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.440 no one's ever gonna go for this. So yeah, so 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.840 I thought Church the Palace because it was harder. And 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.520 then when that record popped, I was like, wow, you 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.000 know and and and and Snooze always been that guy 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.000 that's like, yo, take me there, I trust you. Then 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.840 you could tell that he worked with a season you know, 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:51.040 a really seasoned genius producer who was really the really 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.600 our generation's greatest producer of all time is Dr track two. 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.560 You know, he's he's sorry, man, I got you number one, Bro, 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:02.319 just let go, letting you go, letting go. But Dr 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:06.640 Dre is like man, Dr Dre Bro, but we respect him, 0:37:06.680 --> 0:37:09.480 of course, we love him. But um but um um 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:15.000 Snoop was just like snoop. You know what, my our 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.760 greatest rap records are always when I'm in the studio 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:24.040 with someone who's a personality, and you guys were always 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.920 like personalities. I didn't get a chance to work with 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.400 Capone when I first met you, Capone and just he 0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.000 had gotten locked up already. See that's just something like that. 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.520 It's a beat, the beat for you to make the 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:38.799 introduce you. You got some perfect ring because I'm taking 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.600 another shot. I got you want a little bit more 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:44.400 purple on purplein. I ain't gonna lie, I'm doing the 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:48.200 Swan and ordering purple rain. This is this is look, 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.920 I'm taking a shot. He taking a whole glass. I 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:59.520 ain't allow. I'm turning this into a shot, solid, solidtle finish. Um. 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.759 That's it good. That's why I wish you didn't tell 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:09.200 me it was the killer in there, because it's so good. 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.200 I might so now I'm gonna be careful because I 0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:16.239 hate to kill. You only get to tequila when you 0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.600 just want your energy to be turned up. But I 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.839 hate to taste. I can't taste it. This is why 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:31.719 this is that swan. That's swine um. And you know 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:38.400 for me, like I just feel like characters are always 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.400 the ones that, like I'm able to give context to 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.040 you know, Mona Lisa was a character, but Da Vinci 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.799 was able to put the track behind her that made 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:53.200 her face. Makes sense with that because if you take that, 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:54.800 if you get her out of the photo and just 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:56.960 look at the backdrop, it's like some rolling hills, a 0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:01.440 little bit of water. Big deal. But it was perfect 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.360 for her, right And That's what I've always enjoyed as 0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:09.279 a musician. Chat and I is too. You know, we 0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:11.080 did what it is right now. For Buster, I would 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:12.680 have never been able to make that beat if it 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.320 weren't for him, If Buster wouldn't have walked in the 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.719 end the studio with that energy, and I had made 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:25.800 it for him. But that's just like yep, and you 0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:32.319 know you super thug. It's like Malik was was really 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.600 good friends with Rob Walker and he was like, yeah, 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:39.000 this guy gnor to check them out, And I knew 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:43.680 who you were because of blood Money. When I heard 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:48.840 blood Money, I did not understand, like, because there's not 0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:55.520 too many like the thuggish characters who are really dedicated 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.680 to being a character as much as they're dedicated to 0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:03.040 being a thug. There's you, there's Cameron. You know, there's 0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.560 just different guys. You know, there are new guys that 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.840 I like today that I felt like they're going to 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.279 character and like I just really love what they do 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.480 and their verbs are great, but it's the the idea 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.719 that they're willing to go there. The baby has that, 0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.719 you know, black youngster has that, you know what I'm saying, 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.680 Like they're going to they stayed the character the whole time. 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:27.240 A Black youngster TikTok is this is as funny, entertaining 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:33.320 and as hard as his song. No but I see it, 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.400 you know what I'm saying. And people don't know the 0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:41.520 baby been around for a while. Yes, man, I remember 0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.480 b t was years ago. Like he's like really, he's 0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.840 like really a character. He's dedicated to that. You know 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.399 what I'm saying, Nellie, it's another one like more people 0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:53.760 don't know. More Real was very real and he stayed 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.640 in that character the whole time. Band Aid under the eye. 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.040 You know what I'm saying, God to doing the dance, 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:01.800 doing this. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, but 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:05.120 those kind of guys, Snoop is one of them. I 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:06.960 know I digressed a bit, but I wanted to make 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.600 the sense, make the picture like, there's a reason you 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:16.320 mentioned him because there's him you uh, but we supposed 0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.120 to focus on him. I'm sorry to cut you off. 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.920 There's my kind of focus on him is because he 0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.200 had his whole aluxious career prior to you. So that's 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.560 what I'm thinking, is like, Yo, are you thinking like 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:28.600 you you're gonna mess this up? I'm gonna I'm not 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:31.160 gonna break a less record than you. Know what? I mean? 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:33.279 What he what he's done with Dr Dre is that. 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.160 That's what I'm saying, is no way. I'm like, man, 0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:37.960 I want to do whatever it takes to add to that. 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.920 And I know what, Mike, I know what my ultimate 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.520 competition was. I knew I had to make something that 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.879 felt as good, not better, but as good as one 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:53.040 seven on that the cover come as I glided through 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:59.160 the called me Snoop Eastwood. You're like that, what this is? 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.040 What a lot of people don't know how much of 0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.320 a hip hop person you like? You really are? Like, 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.560 oh my god, And I would think that's the most 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.760 is it? Would you say it's important to maintain that fandom, 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:13.399 to be creative with these people, Yes, man, listen, Hey. 0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.080 When I first heard this is won't too long ago. 0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:18.640 But I'm just trying to tell you these moments that 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.440 when I feel it and I just fall over and 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.759 I can't do anything with myself but just roll over 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.759 and just die over and over again. When I heard 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:30.399 Gucci mains peeping out the blinds? Have you heard that song? 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:35.839 Find at these niggas, Find at these niggas, find out 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.279 these niggas outside, I feel like Malcolm maxic people and 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:42.799 all the blinds, It's gonna be fine hunting niggas. Sorry, 0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:46.120 when I'm feeling not finding these niggas firing and the 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:50.280 siren and finding these niggas outshine, I feel like Malcolm 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:53.600 makes some people and the blinds he's gonna be has 0:42:53.640 --> 0:43:00.120 done its own shot. Who your man now? Click cleck what? 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:06.880 Oh my god? No, no man down? Click clack? Who 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.120 your man now? I know you're heard about gut your man. 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:15.040 Oh my god. You guys have to hear that. You know, 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:20.120 when I get to that place, You're not it's nothing, 0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.200 It's it's over. It's like the first time I heard 0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:27.359 juveniles ha, oh my god. You know the first time 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.560 I heard juven I was in New Orleans. I was. 0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.400 I was in there doing the Puerto Rican show at 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:37.960 that in New Orleans. It's the weirdest ship ever, Like 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:42.560 you got Puerto Ricans. Yeah, yeah, So what was your 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.319 what is that first experience? Like when you hear other 0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.879 when you hear other people records and it is dope, 0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:49.759 do you say I wish I could have made that 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:54.080 or do you say, what did you I get the 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:55.680 first of the record that you ever heard? You said, 0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.200 I wish I would have made that better question? Oh 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:07.080 my god, there's so many one off top trial called 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.279 quest Lyrics to Go. Damn. I knew he was gonna 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:14.160 go to drive. I just Lyrics to Go. I was 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:19.279 at Tammy Lucas's house. Me g new Cam we bought 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.000 that ship for the first time. We was over there 0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.879 listening to that ship and Shay was over there. We died. 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.120 We died, We died. We all of us died. We 0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:36.560 died for like, it's dope. We died, okay, So and 0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.880 Bro gotta drunk. You died, come back and something's amazing. 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.080 It's like, yo, you died. And then like and then 0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:52.319 bro when he said ship like fan when he says like, um, 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.120 you know when people are boxing and you know, somebody 0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:56.960 is drunk and they're boby get knocked out. Be l 0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.279 Now he did, he did, he did. He was saying, oh, 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.480 he's in the cough okay. And or when someone's been 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.120 drinking too much and you know they just finished for 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:09.560 the night, like he's dead. He did a couple of times. 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.320 And then when it's real bag, you're like, yo, he 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.400 in the coffin, No bro, come get him here in 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:22.920 the coffin. When it's real bag, to be like, yo, maggots. 0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.719 He's maggots right now, he's maggot, Come get them. But 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.920 that's not we but we but we find that comical 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.160 because you see a person that and they in the 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.080 mix and it's like you already know they're about to 0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.440 have another rough twenty four hours of waking up crazy 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.319 hangover just finished. So we just you know, So there's 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.759 two kind of contexts of using the word dying and dead. 0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:49.000 We try to stay away from the third one. Yeah yeah, Amene, Yeah, 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:53.120 you've always been a guy. It's always been like woman 0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:59.120 is around all the time. Yeah, how do you develop that? Man? 0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:03.799 I think women are the greatest gift to us. Um, 0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.720 they actually give us life. You know, I don't understand 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.160 hating women in any way, shape or form, because that's 0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:14.640 forgetting where you actually come from. Every last human being 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.839 walking around here came from a woman, unless you came 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:19.680 out of a test tube. And you know, God bless you. 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.840 But other than that, like other than that, like I 0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:27.680 don't know where to go. But right, I mean right, 0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:30.840 all of us come from that amazing silver lining of 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:33.520 an elevator through the conduit of a woman's body. So 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.560 how could you not how could you hate on what 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.279 gave you life? You know what I'm saying. And the 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:43.279 other thing is like I say this all the time, 0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:47.239 you know, you know, man, we'll never know what it's 0:46:47.320 --> 0:46:50.000 like to be a woman because once a month they 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:52.960 go through some ship that will never be able to understand. 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:54.600 And they got to keep a smile in their face, 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.520 and they got to continue to deliver. They got to 0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.560 continue to work. They kind come to work and talk 0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:01.080 to you about what they what what what what? In 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.120 the Native American culture they call the moon. They can't 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.160 talk about when they go through their moon or through 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.440 their cycle or whatever. They got to just do what 0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:11.120 they do. I will never know. Can you imagine feeling 0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.879 like shit for three or four or five six days, 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.040 and you still got to perform all thirty days of 0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.839 the month and thirty one days of the month, um. 0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:21.719 And then and then and then. The other thing that 0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:25.399 we'll never know the burden of being a woman is well, 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.560 there's lots of them, right, like societal burdens that they 0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:30.600 get put through. They don't even get paid the same 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.600 of us. Like it's like you, we couldn't even imagine 0:47:33.719 --> 0:47:36.719 that's a real Still it's like seventy cents on the 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:41.000 man's dollar. Yeah. So like but then and that's a 0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.400 lot of them, right. I'm not talking about you know, 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:48.880 women like Caryl Sandberg who they supersede, but even she 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:51.080 could just tell you, like she goes through things, through 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:53.319 things as well, or like you know our new vice 0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:58.960 president elect, um, you know Harris, you know Kamala Harris, 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.400 Like she could tell you things that she's going through, um, 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.160 even in the highest position like one of the leaders 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:09.400 of the free world. But the other thing that women 0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:11.359 do too, man, is they bring life into this world. 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:14.160 They literally hold onto life. Like we don't as men, 0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.000 we don't know what that's like. We gotta do ship 0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.960 they keep doing stuff while they're carrying life in their bodies. 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:24.359 Like my wife literally had four heartbeats and her body 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:29.759 at one time because she had triplets, for god, right, 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.200 so she grew through sets three sets of organs and 0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.040 her body while she had her own set of organs. 0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.799 So literally, my wife had four heartbeats going on at once. 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:44.920 It's amazing, you know. So it's like it's it's just 0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:50.480 my my my feeling for women. I love them from 0:48:50.520 --> 0:48:52.400 a from a lovely place, I loved them from a 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:55.719 lustful place. I love them all the way around, and 0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:59.839 I just you know, they've always been a huge more 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.400 vational force for my music. You know, there's always that. 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:07.080 There's always like women were always the concern like, Okay, 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.480 what are the girl's gonna think, you know when they 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.719 hit its beata, how they're gonna feel when they hear 0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:14.359 this this this melody or you know what I'm saying. 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.880 So that's really the reason why I've always just happened 0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:20.440 in the beginning, like you know, from from Super Dog on, 0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.000 when we would play records or you will play records back, 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:26.520 you wouldn't play a record unless a woman was in 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:28.600 the second. You would be like your hold on nor 0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.400 like like like no, no, no, let's just just make 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.719 sure like you always wanted a woman's opinion. And that's 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:36.560 the reason why I knew Super Doug would work with 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:42.280 the woman. I don't know if you remember, but Super, 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.080 my album was done. I'm gonna get to the first 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.120 thing I met. My album was done. And you said 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:51.400 to me, you can't your album is not done, like 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:56.720 you're cocky in the beginning, like like in the beginning, 0:49:56.800 --> 0:49:58.440 like this is what I'm trying to tell you, Like 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:01.399 you look at me like it was like, no, you're 0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:04.400 not closing your album. Your album is not closed. And 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:07.160 I was like I didn't know how to you know, 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.799 what's it called re forecast? Like I learned that later, 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.920 and you was like, this is this is the greatest story, right, 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:16.560 not this part. This part of it's a part of 0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.680 the embarrassing. You know where it was that sound on 0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.800 sound studios? Oh my god. And I remember because Biggie 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.320 used to go upstairs. A lot of people thought Biggie 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:30.480 recorded and um bad boy, but around the corner from 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.800 bad Way one block over. Remember it was on forty 0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:38.160 four uh Daddy's house, excuse me, and was sound on 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:40.360 sound It's the first day I met you, I walked in. 0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.080 You quoted me quote the Bloody Money, brough the room, 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:46.319 quote the Bloody Money to me, and I was like wow. 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:47.920 And then as soon as you finish, you said, but 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.719 I don't have one thug bone in my body. I said, 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:53.920 I like this guy. He's rare, and then you said yeah. 0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.560 I was not closed though, and I said, so if 0:50:56.600 --> 0:50:59.040 you remember at the end of Super Dug, I'm actually 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.719 saying in a R E Nori the remix, because this 0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.520 is actually going to use it as the remix to 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:07.840 know r E. Because I was trying to do a 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:09.880 big deal, but one more chance and one more like 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:15.960 And what happened was we played the record too too 0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:21.759 to these NYC DJs. Oh, let me just I think 0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.520 it was all DJs, and you know what everyone said 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:27.520 because they didn't understand that that tune sound at the time. 0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.239 All looked at us in our face and said, this 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:37.960 is too dark of a record. Next, let me get 0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:44.480 to it. So listen they I'm sitting there because the 0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.520 record that we want to go with band from TV 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:49.440 and I'm like, we gotta go with Super Thug. And 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.719 we played it for all these people. They said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:58.760 do y'all understand what band from TV was? Does everybody 0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:04.400 know who was on that? Do people really understand? Yo? 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:06.480 Do people really? I know? I I don't want to. 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:09.000 I just want to just take a hold on a second. 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:14.080 Do y'all understand how crazy band from TV is? First 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.719 of all, the title alone and people don't know like 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:21.120 the actual band from TV like at that time? Let 0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:25.239 me tell you so, did DJ say the record is 0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:28.920 too dark? Meaning like it's gonna work at a tunnel 0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.200 And that'sh it. So that's the reason why if you 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.439 if you look at Super Dug video, there's not one 0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.560 night time shot in the video. We shot the whole 0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.560 ship in the daytime. We did. We shot the whole 0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:44.880 it was too dark. They swear to god, I should 0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:50.160 have clapped that goddamn But it was the whole And 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.000 it was crazy because because that record spoke to us 0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.040 in the South immediately. Yeah, I had no idea, like 0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:58.560 like I was decided because to me, that was a 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:01.520 South record. I'm like, oh, yeah, you always told me that. 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.880 He always told me he made the South record, And 0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:09.480 I was like, really, I never understood that. Virginia's like, 0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:12.640 I'm clear to David sound well. Just to be clear 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.280 and not to get political, but Richmond is the capital 0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:24.279 of Virginia, but Richmond was also the capital of the control. Right. 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.320 So I get to this point and I'll break it 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.920 down because you gave me two like I got ten 0:53:30.080 --> 0:53:36.840 top phone calls of my life and you're tool. I 0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.400 don't know who called you and told you that they 0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:43.279 were throwing cheers. Yes, but then you called me and 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:47.880 said strict this phenomena and I was like, what are 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:51.239 you talking about. He's like, they can't play in the club, 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:57.279 they don't cares. The greatest calls I ever when you 0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:59.560 called me and he was like, this is it's really 0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:03.799 like you just I was like wow, because you gotta 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:07.000 remember I listen. I was supposed to go into a 0:54:07.040 --> 0:54:08.759 deeper story with my father, but I didn't want to 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.200 do that. But so you remember that called when you 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.320 called me, was like they're throwing cheers, bro. I remember that. 0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.640 I don't remember that call specifically, but I remember that time, 0:54:17.680 --> 0:54:20.200 and I remember that feeling. I remember Rob Walker calling me, 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:23.560 going yo yo. They played the record in such and 0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.320 such and such. It was first time, first time. I 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.000 guess that's where I don't know if it was there, 0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:29.799 but he was like, they played it in such and such. 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.360 He was like, yo, and they had to turn the 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.239 record off. They kept playing it back to back and 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.360 after a while, like they got like everybody was just 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.480 getting unruly and he was and he was like, yo, 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:44.239 niggas was throwing chairs and niggas are throwing chairs and 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:47.879 I'm like what. And that was like at the time, 0:54:48.000 --> 0:54:49.800 like that's not a big deal to whoever. You know, 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:51.600 the kids that are listening now, they don't, they don't 0:54:51.640 --> 0:54:54.640 understand you. But we were, we were changing the tide 0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:59.600 of what what happened because honest, onest had a big 0:54:59.719 --> 0:55:01.680 moment where they were mash pitting and things like that 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.200 as well. The only ones that we're doing right. But 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.640 then here comes this guy that comes from you know, 0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.680 t O and Y and New York get the blood 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:19.000 money would that guy? That guy, that guy had violator blood. 0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.600 He wasn't just like with with all due love and respect. 0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:27.080 He wasn't like just like a hood like Queen's Bridge Rapper. 0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.920 He was actually met the people who owned Left Rack. 0:55:31.040 --> 0:55:35.279 It was like really wild at the un Yeah, that yo, 0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:42.319 that the product. I just blew my mind. I met 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:43.920 them at the u N and they were like, yeah, 0:55:44.040 --> 0:55:48.279 such a left rack. I was like, met the like 0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.080 but but but but but I'm just saying, you know, 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.879 I knew that you were a character when I heard 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:06.560 blood Money. So here we go with this song and 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.359 and and I felt like we had chatted. And also 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:12.840 said to me, you said just listen to me like that. 0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:14.719 That's swear to God. And I was like, I am, 0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:17.440 I don't know why. I just was like, and it's crazy. 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:20.239 He was the exact opposite because I had a four 0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:22.600 x on at the time. You remember, this was baggy 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:25.640 baggage and you came in with tight clothes from him. Again, 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.560 I was like, and for some reason, I just believe you. 0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:36.000 So I'm gonna get to the story and then we're 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:38.200 gonna bounce back. You gave me, made me two beats, 0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.440 and I was on my way to Miami. This is 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:46.160 why the Marland Hotel is always significant. So you said 0:56:46.520 --> 0:56:49.560 this third beat, don't listen to it to you land 0:56:49.640 --> 0:56:53.880 in Miami. And we landed in Miami the Kent Hotel. 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:59.320 Whatever promoter is, he was a foul person. Can come on, 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:04.720 I'll put you in the I'm not I'm not groundless. 0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:08.200 Never let this up. But anyway, so I go upstairs, 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:13.520 and I remember they pooled us across the street from 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:17.960 across the street, so I go there and I remember, 0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.880 I remember I played, so you played me the first 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:22.960 two ones and sound on sound if you said the 0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.400 third one, don't listen to until you get to Miami. 0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:28.960 So I got to the King Hotel, whatever, get upstairs. 0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:32.520 I played at you and then you already had it. Man, 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:38.600 well Noriega. It was the first time a producer took 0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:45.959 their time to make a beat for me. I don't 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:48.640 think you guys understand what the hell I'm trying to say. 0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:52.280 Like this time, people just give you a beat and 0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.240 if you like it, they'll just sell it to Cougie 0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:57.640 Rap or sell it to you know whoever. Like when 0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:00.480 I heard that ship, it blew my mind. You know, 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.040 I wrote that whole ship in like twenty minutes. I 0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.080 was like, and I called you immediately. The only thing 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.400 I said I said because Tammy Lucas was saying yeah, yeah, 0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:10.400 and I was like, cause she's changed it to what 0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.439 what he was like, tomorrow we'll do the right track. 0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:15.960 So I was like, I'm flying back tomorrow. And I 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:20.080 flew back and that was that was probably like what 0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:22.680 made you do that? Like what made you put that? 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:24.640 Because I swear to God I was. I was buying 0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:27.320 the beat just because she said my name before we 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:29.480 was in the studio together. I was like, how did 0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:33.320 you what's the whole story behind? Because I always told 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:36.280 my part, right, I definitely don't know your part when 0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:38.880 you're presenting me that beat. And MC light told me 0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.800 she had to beat once society told me he had 0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:45.240 to be an artist that was on what's Lucas Nabor 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:47.600 Sipping Side Sipping Side records? He said he heard that beat. 0:58:48.400 --> 0:58:51.880 I don't know about that. I'm just saying I think 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:58.600 I made something for Light and we were definitely trying 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:02.680 to get because like looking at me was for B 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:09.240 B D. If you think, but they're looking at me, 0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:15.160 that's for belvote. Yeah, I could hear that they passed 0:59:15.200 --> 0:59:17.880 on it. I don't think that. I don't think that 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:24.160 it makes the time. Yes, but well look that's how 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:28.720 God worked though. Man. I may look um are the 0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:33.680 queen Janet Jackson are siss? We made um slave for you? 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.360 And she actually recorded it, but she just didn't use it. 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.520 And when she didn't use it, we gave it to 0:59:38.560 --> 0:59:42.720 Britney Spears. Wow. So I've been blessed with a lot 0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:45.080 of that, where like artists did not feel like something 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:47.680 was for them, but it made sense for someone else. 0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:52.000 Gave me Outlaw for Nas. Remember that crazy outlaw I've 0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:55.480 brung it to Nas, y'all And I was like, I 0:59:55.560 --> 1:00:02.240 don't get it. Yeah, remember, yes, actually made that for 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:06.000 not Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you, bro, I don't know 1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:12.720 what happen my whole remember it because it was just crazy, 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.520 because the crazy. It's crazy because I am such a 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:20.600 I leaned forward so much that my chronology of things, 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:22.840 like I told you, I thought maybe, like you know, 1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:24.880 Church to the Palace and Beautiful might have been on 1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:28.600 Um might have went on no limit and it was 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.520 actually a priority. Sometimes I'll be I'll be mixing those 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:35.040 things up. It wasn't the limit priority as well distributed 1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:38.680 it it was, it was, But I think they got smart. 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:41.160 So that was one of my first my favorite. So 1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.120 did we finished the supertrug? I still want to know 1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.440 how that came to be? Did not? Thank you? So 1:00:46.600 --> 1:00:48.960 that time, at that time, we were still like we 1:00:49.040 --> 1:00:51.920 were making money, We were still making making music, you know, 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:57.440 and Chad's moms and Chad's parents house. We still like, 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:59.000 we just felt like I had a vibe in there, 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:00.360 so we're going there and make new music. But they 1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:02.360 started getting too loud for his mom, and his mom 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:05.160 was eventually starting to get six, so we had to 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:08.400 like move up, you know, start just working purely in 1:01:08.440 --> 1:01:10.680 the studio. But there were times when we would go 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:14.680 back in his mom's house and make music too, because 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:16.520 we just felt like a big bottle of Man, do 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:18.560 you mind you know this is that big because you 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:22.520 were popping this big bottle? Yeah, listen, listen. Love the 1:01:22.520 --> 1:01:24.720 Big Bro. Loved the Big Bro, you know, you know 1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:26.920 the whole you know, he sent this personally, you know 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:28.200 what I mean. He wanted you to get you know 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:32.280 what I mean. Goddamn it, I'm continuing stories. Wonderful um, 1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:36.200 But yeah, that was Tammy was around. We was like 1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:38.640 making beats and stuff, and she would be there and 1:01:38.760 --> 1:01:40.560 sometimes she would hear things and she would sing on 1:01:40.640 --> 1:01:43.880 it and she heard that that what did you say 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:47.880 it was at first? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:01:48.080 --> 1:01:52.600 yeah yeah. Yes. Is the life y'all of a superstar? 1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:57.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, man, Well, no, Riega and the Philippines, 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.400 and I was like, dude, this is nigga, my dj 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:05.320 it's fun to Philippines is ill. I was like whatever 1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:08.840 Google that was like he googled the nigger like it 1:02:08.920 --> 1:02:12.040 wasn't Google. I was like yo, he said yo. I 1:02:12.360 --> 1:02:15.000 felt obligated, so I wrote the whole rhyme. I came 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:17.560 back the right track and I laid the whole ship. 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:20.280 You know, the what what's is how I counted bars 1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:22.640 that was never meant to be the told me. I 1:02:22.760 --> 1:02:24.400 was like, what what what what? You know? You know, 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:26.360 I didn't know that until like maybe ten years ago. 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:30.840 You was like, listen, I remember laying because I didn't 1:02:30.840 --> 1:02:34.320 know how to punch in. You fucking young motherfucker's you 1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:36.840 your young motherfucker's with your punching. I didn't know how 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:39.480 to punch in, bro, So I laid the whole ship, 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:43.000 like straight, bro, I'm older than you though. By the way, 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:49.680 seven damn godmn, you look at twenty seven. I'm gonna 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:58.800 do this, goddam. By the way, this is the greatest, 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:00.920 greatest session of my life. So that's the reason why 1:03:00.920 --> 1:03:04.000 I remember it. I don't remember sheh, but so I remember, 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:05.960 and I just later I remember right track had the 1:03:06.040 --> 1:03:09.080 upstairs downstairs, so I think I ordered some food or 1:03:09.160 --> 1:03:12.120 something and you were just down there and I kept saying, 1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:13.360 you got I got the hook and he was like, 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:15.440 I got the hook already. You would like just brushing 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:17.360 me off. And I was like, alright, cool, I had 1:03:17.440 --> 1:03:19.840 no idea what you did with it. And I was 1:03:19.960 --> 1:03:22.480 just you just I just listened to you. It was 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:24.919 just like fuck it. And I said, Yo, they're gonna 1:03:25.000 --> 1:03:27.080 laugh at me. And he said, this is your words. 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:28.760 He said, and you're gonna laugh all the way to 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:37.920 the bank. And I said, and you were right. And 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:40.720 I had the number one record milbeb. He had much 1:03:40.760 --> 1:03:43.040 for Lil Bean the other day and he was like yo, 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:45.680 bro like and he was telling me how he should 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:48.600 have listened to me because I said yo. He was 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.080 like he was saying, like he's like, yo, that sound 1:03:51.200 --> 1:03:54.000 at the time, like that's how they described the net 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:58.560 tune sound at first, because I guess it was affiliated 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:03.000 with me. They thinking you guys, because it's tough. They 1:04:03.040 --> 1:04:10.840 were saying, that's a dark sound, bro softest butter, I've 1:04:10.920 --> 1:04:14.240 never been a tough guy. But no, but you're right. 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:16.880 There were times when people like yo, what's it'tn bro 1:04:18.320 --> 1:04:20.920 Little Wayne. Little Wayne took me around. We went to 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:22.760 visit we were doing the show down there, and like 1:04:23.440 --> 1:04:26.680 he was a fan and he took us to UM 1:04:27.360 --> 1:04:31.040 this club down there and and it was the equivalent 1:04:31.120 --> 1:04:33.240 of being in d C. Like sometimes d C have 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:36.520 you know what's what's what's what's what's bro name that? 1:04:37.800 --> 1:04:42.480 What's his name? Kevinn? What's his name? That do all 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:46.240 the like d C clubs there he did dreams Mark 1:04:47.400 --> 1:04:50.200 Mark Barnes and why the said Kevin? So like they 1:04:50.280 --> 1:04:53.080 have like Mark, listen, love and respect to Mark Barnes. 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:57.120 He has some of the craziest amazing clubs and venues 1:04:57.240 --> 1:05:00.680 that like life Life part took and with created at 1:05:01.800 --> 1:05:07.200 babies were made there um or at least initiated UM 1:05:09.000 --> 1:05:13.240 and and and and in in New Orleans, in Louisiana, 1:05:13.320 --> 1:05:17.080 there was like these clubs that were just as big, 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:19.200 Like you go to a club that had three thousand 1:05:19.280 --> 1:05:21.040 people and Little Wayne took me the one and this 1:05:21.200 --> 1:05:25.520 was the most gangster shit. I mean, there's a couple 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:28.360 of times where I was like in an environment, I 1:05:28.480 --> 1:05:31.880 lost my fucking mind, like and lead immediately like left 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:34.720 the studio, like I mean left the club going, let's 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:36.840 go make some music. Little Wayne took me to a 1:05:36.920 --> 1:05:41.320 place in New Orleans, Man and it was white teeth, 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:48.560 white teeth, Central gold Tief, gold teeth everywhere, and you 1:05:48.640 --> 1:05:51.440 could just the guns were in the club. Bro, everybody 1:05:51.520 --> 1:05:54.040 had a gun. Bro. Like it could really it could 1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:56.520 have like it would have gone down. A lot of 1:05:56.600 --> 1:06:01.840 people would have got like like hit up and for me, like, 1:06:02.960 --> 1:06:07.880 I'm not a tough guy, Bro, I I'm really I 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:11.080 really believe in paying taxes because when you pay taxes, 1:06:12.440 --> 1:06:14.880 when you pay taxes, it's like you shouldn't feel no 1:06:15.000 --> 1:06:18.720 kind of way. Doling nine one one. You know what 1:06:18.760 --> 1:06:22.760 I'm saying. Like I'm saying that I'm like not tell 1:06:22.760 --> 1:06:26.960 the guy. Yo, listen, you think Steven Spielberg has many 1:06:27.320 --> 1:06:29.640 great movies he's ever made, or Standy Koprick. You think 1:06:29.680 --> 1:06:33.520 these guys are good fucking shots, the terrible shots, it's 1:06:33.520 --> 1:06:36.120 probably never been in the gun range. They can make 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:40.920 the movie, right. I make the music because I'm inspired 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.640 by it. Literally, we were were we the other night, 1:06:43.680 --> 1:06:46.680 we was we was at the Hit Factory. It was 1:06:46.760 --> 1:06:50.160 god yesterday they were shooting like four or five shots 1:06:50.200 --> 1:06:56.600 and ship well because that's in the so you know. So, 1:06:56.800 --> 1:06:58.600 so Kelly comes in, She's like, can I talk to 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:00.200 you for a second winter session? He says, can I 1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:03.000 talk to you? Say like yeah, She's like yeah. So 1:07:03.080 --> 1:07:05.360 they're shooting in the parking lot. I'm leaving. I'm like, 1:07:05.880 --> 1:07:07.640 where then are you going on the shooting outside? You 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:12.920 act like the sucking the uber or the lift is 1:07:12.920 --> 1:07:15.680 gonna pull up in the middle of the ship. But literally, 1:07:16.000 --> 1:07:18.320 I'm not a tough guy. I knew I'm staying my 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:22.040 ass inside and the fucking FBI is on speed dial. 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:27.720 Not a fucking tough guy. People say things about snitching. 1:07:27.760 --> 1:07:33.760 I'm fucking snitching. You know. Everybody plays their part. This 1:07:33.920 --> 1:07:36.600 is a movie, but you, guys, everybody plays the part 1:07:37.360 --> 1:07:42.560 guys snitching. This's doing nothing around me. I'm not doing 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:50.760 for the nitching. Hey getting that out. Hey, I have 1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:52.880 a purpose. I have to be me. I have to 1:07:52.960 --> 1:07:54.800 do my job and I have to play my part 1:07:54.840 --> 1:07:57.840 in this movie. And my partner is I told you 1:07:57.960 --> 1:08:02.240 not to do that ship. I told you I wasn't 1:08:02.240 --> 1:08:06.560 built for this. I'm really sorry, but this is your deal, 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:13.160 your honor. Jury are you guys are saying I asked 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:15.640 him not to do this, and if he was gonna 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:17.639 do it or she was gonna do it, don't fucking 1:08:17.720 --> 1:08:20.680 tell me, Well, you're civilian. You can get away with 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:27.760 that one minute. The world everybody's everybody's not sucking nay 1:08:27.840 --> 1:08:30.200 five years in a condition you know you are not 1:08:30.479 --> 1:08:33.760 built for because you want to look tough. I am 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:35.599 not fucking tough. You know, you know, I don't want 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:39.400 to look like fucking free and having living my life. 1:08:40.160 --> 1:08:42.240 You get away with that totally. No street person in 1:08:42.280 --> 1:08:44.519 the world will be offended by saying that, because you're 1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:46.800 never claimed with tough. That's the problem. The problem is 1:08:46.840 --> 1:08:49.280 it's not people um that think like you. The problem 1:08:49.400 --> 1:08:53.280 is the people that that portrayed a certain image. You 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:55.200 have never betrayed that image. So no one can ever 1:08:55.280 --> 1:08:57.439 be offended by that statement that you and how many 1:08:57.479 --> 1:08:59.920 people do you really know? Really right, and don't tell 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:02.640 how many times y'all talk about y'all your friends is 1:09:02.720 --> 1:09:06.000 the hardest guy in the world. Motherfucker's like, it's a 1:09:06.080 --> 1:09:08.800 middle ground. There's a middle ground, but it's just how 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:11.360 many just there's not just super gainst in telling there's 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:13.920 a middle ground in there and you're here right now 1:09:14.520 --> 1:09:16.719 you're here right now. We're not we're not living against 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:19.439 the life for not the perfect that. This is where 1:09:19.439 --> 1:09:21.880 we're at right here. This is guys who survived the street. 1:09:21.960 --> 1:09:25.479 Like what we're not telling you? But I mean, we're 1:09:26.040 --> 1:09:29.320 we're not involving ship. We're not involving that. We're not involving. 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:35.880 We're not involving ship. Were not with nothing. We're good. 1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:39.120 We're good, good, hey man, when we play our taxes, 1:09:42.000 --> 1:09:47.160 I am a bicycle, not a four wheeler. Okay, I 1:09:47.320 --> 1:09:49.760 meant the ride, but there's only so much weight I 1:09:49.800 --> 1:09:52.000 can take, and there's only so much terrain I can take, 1:09:52.200 --> 1:09:54.320 and I can only go but so fast. I'm very 1:09:54.360 --> 1:09:56.080 clear on that. So let me switch the subject a 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:58.960 little bit. You mentioned little Wayne, Little Wayne and put 1:09:59.040 --> 1:10:03.280 your teeth. Yeah, they had this discrepancy. Yeah, what was 1:10:03.360 --> 1:10:05.720 your stance on that? My stances. I didn't want to 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.560 see that go that way? You know there was you know, 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:13.000 um that didn't make me happy. I hate to see 1:10:13.040 --> 1:10:14.720 what him and Drake are going through, or what they 1:10:14.800 --> 1:10:17.000 went through. I hated to see all of it, every 1:10:17.040 --> 1:10:20.760 bit of it. It was never it wasn't it wasn't good. 1:10:21.960 --> 1:10:25.639 Drake's amazing and Drake is all powerful and he's so talented. 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:28.320 Too far. You didn't push it with too far, you know, 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:33.320 like I push it in and tell me because he 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:35.880 knows I would have, you know, stood in front of 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:38.320 him as much as I could. But he's a different 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.920 kind of person. He's a tourist, you know what I'm saying, 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:42.840 And tourist people. I don't know if there's anybody out 1:10:42.880 --> 1:10:48.559 there right now, but tourists April April. My daughter's a tourist, 1:10:48.720 --> 1:10:50.280 right So when you and when you feel like a 1:10:50.400 --> 1:10:52.519 line is crossed and you take off the gloves, that's 1:10:52.560 --> 1:10:54.679 just where your brain is at, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:58.840 Where's Drake is a scorpio? And they never forget. And 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:03.600 that's in the December, Yeah, like it was. It's just 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:07.040 the worst combination of two people who are very pure 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.400 and very loyal to the people that they love. And 1:11:10.479 --> 1:11:12.320 it's crazy because you you could do what happened to 1:11:12.400 --> 1:11:16.200 that boy? What push the t bird man? And when yeah, 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:18.160 you know, I didn't want that man. I didn't I 1:11:18.640 --> 1:11:20.760 It's still it still breaks my heart to this day 1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:22.920 because I would have loved to have heard those guys 1:11:23.840 --> 1:11:26.559 on a song together. Or heard a joint project together. 1:11:26.760 --> 1:11:29.599 You know, push it in Wayne or push your Drake, 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:31.720 push it right. I would have loved to have seen 1:11:31.840 --> 1:11:34.759 that have been singing and push your hitting the balls whatever. 1:11:34.960 --> 1:11:38.559 And Drake, Drake got bars, bro, Drake got by the way, 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:43.320 push your says, Drake got bars. Yeah. When Drake makes 1:11:43.360 --> 1:11:45.240 something that's amazing. We talked about it all the time. 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:48.640 When something's a it's amazing, it ain't that. It ain't that, 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:53.640 it's just that pushes up really tonicship relationship with Drake, like, um, 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:57.160 has it affected it in any way? I mean we've 1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:59.360 talked several times. I love Drake, I mean even in 1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:01.040 the middle of all that stuff, like he would like 1:12:02.080 --> 1:12:06.280 he like he's said super nice and kind things to 1:12:06.360 --> 1:12:09.160 me on the d M and and and in public. 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:13.680 Like I don't think Drake doesn't. Neither one of them 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:20.600 are into problems. They don't like it, like it's unnecessary. 1:12:21.800 --> 1:12:24.439 But they're both people who, like, you know, when when 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:26.320 when they feel like they're being pushed to a limit, 1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:28.280 they gotta do what they gotta do. I don't know, 1:12:28.360 --> 1:12:31.680 it's all good. I um, that didn't you know that 1:12:31.760 --> 1:12:36.200 didn't I wasn't happy about that, you know what I'm saying, 1:12:36.840 --> 1:12:41.280 Um and I and and man, I talked to Push 1:12:41.360 --> 1:12:43.679 all all the time, like he's he's really a good guy. 1:12:43.960 --> 1:12:49.519 It's just in his mind. He just felt like when 1:12:49.560 --> 1:12:52.200 the gloves come off, gloves came off because he mentioned 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:55.160 this girl, right that, Yeah, that was like that was 1:12:55.200 --> 1:12:56.960 a different kind of line. And by the way, and 1:12:57.200 --> 1:12:58.920 I'm sure it would have you know, if Drake had 1:12:58.960 --> 1:13:01.439 a girl and they were as serious, I'm sure Drake 1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:05.080 would have felt the same way. But again, it's like 1:13:05.800 --> 1:13:09.040 that's the thing with rap, like you know, there's there 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:11.200 should be rules, but there's kind of no rules, and 1:13:11.320 --> 1:13:13.960 people will do and say anything. Man, the stuff that 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:17.799 Big and Pop went through, and he had a Dida's 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:19.960 deal because like I know, like you Big and Adidas 1:13:20.000 --> 1:13:22.120 as well, Right, Drake had Adida's deal and Push the 1:13:22.200 --> 1:13:25.120 Teak got him up out of there. He did, he 1:13:25.240 --> 1:13:27.360 did had he did have a deal there. But again, 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:30.160 all of this was unbeknownst to me, Like Drake told 1:13:30.200 --> 1:13:33.200 me that he had a situation there, but I didn't 1:13:33.240 --> 1:13:36.439 know that any of this would ever come up, you know, 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:41.560 and I like I would never I didn't want to 1:13:41.600 --> 1:13:45.320 see this, man. I didn't want to see this. I 1:13:45.439 --> 1:13:51.120 just think that they're super too, super talented guys that man. 1:13:52.479 --> 1:13:57.639 You know, black people and especially black men, we haven't 1:13:57.680 --> 1:14:01.080 had it so easy in this country and even in Canada, 1:14:01.200 --> 1:14:03.320 like it's not been so easy for black men there, 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:06.280 and when you think about where this country is going, 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:10.360 like seventy one million people did not like the turnout 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:14.000 of this election, and they were all complicit and cool 1:14:14.200 --> 1:14:16.360 with a lot of the things that happened because they 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:20.720 voted for it again. And um, I gotta give my 1:14:20.840 --> 1:14:25.720 respect just as a citizen, I'm supposed to respect, you know, 1:14:26.120 --> 1:14:28.800 the the current administration because they are the leaders of 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:31.040 the free world. I don't agree with a lot of 1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:32.800 things that they say. I don't agree with a lot 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:35.360 of the policies, and a lot of that has come 1:14:35.439 --> 1:14:41.680 down on, you know, on black males. And yes, you 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:46.400 know they have been you know, um, they have been 1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:54.840 you know, reversing uh sentences and pardoning and doing all 1:14:54.880 --> 1:14:56.360 these things. I know, Kim was a very it was 1:14:56.400 --> 1:14:59.120 a very played the very intricral part of that. But 1:14:59.200 --> 1:15:01.400 I don't give a fun man. We are an endangered 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:04.760 species black men. Bro. So it's like when you see 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:07.280 two people who are so fucking powerful. And you see 1:15:08.040 --> 1:15:12.280 men that look like Drake die or be paralyzed with 1:15:12.640 --> 1:15:15.240 with police bullets in their back, you know what I'm saying. 1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:20.160 Or you see black men that look like Pusha who 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:26.840 die with police bullets or dying just in general, just 1:15:26.960 --> 1:15:29.439 from like the the very dark forces of racism in 1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:32.120 this country. My only thing is to say, you guys, 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:35.599 you guys are both live in great lives. And sure 1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:40.479 there's been some overstepping on both parts. I'll say, man, like, 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:43.400 we better than this, and we gotta we gotta we 1:15:43.680 --> 1:15:45.600 we too. Zoom in right now, bro, we need to 1:15:45.680 --> 1:15:47.720 zoom out. We need to zoom out and see the 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:52.120 bigger picture we we need We're stronger together. And and 1:15:52.320 --> 1:15:54.519 and I and I've wanted to do that, but it's 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:59.439 not something that I can do. I mean, record you 1:15:59.600 --> 1:16:03.040 produce it. What do you mean? I'd be so honored. 1:16:03.280 --> 1:16:05.840 I do I do whatever for that, I do whatever 1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:09.519 I want that to be. I wish that that did 1:16:09.600 --> 1:16:12.160 not exist. You know what I'm saying, this didn't exist. 1:16:13.000 --> 1:16:15.479 I wish all of it just it was never It 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:19.360 didn't it wasn't good for anyone. It was literally both 1:16:19.439 --> 1:16:22.120 of them, like feeling like, no, I'm not backing down, 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:24.760 you know what I'm saying, Like, why should I back down? 1:16:25.320 --> 1:16:28.360 But it's like, no, you guys are you. Guys are 1:16:28.400 --> 1:16:31.960 bigger than you. Guys are bigger than this issue. You 1:16:32.000 --> 1:16:35.120 know what I'm saying. I mean, Drake is arguably one 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:38.120 of the biggest. No, he is the biggest artist right now, 1:16:38.240 --> 1:16:40.839 He's the biggest you know what I'm saying. And Pusher 1:16:40.960 --> 1:16:44.120 is like one of those guys that like he continues 1:16:44.200 --> 1:16:47.400 to up his ship like lyrically, people know he's the 1:16:47.439 --> 1:16:50.280 most he's one of the most respected lyrically, and like 1:16:50.360 --> 1:16:52.000 by the way he's consistent with what it is that 1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:55.800 he does. He just continues, like it seems like he's 1:16:55.800 --> 1:17:01.200 getting better and better and better. I just that would 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:03.200 be the greatest thing for me. I mean I didn't 1:17:03.200 --> 1:17:05.360 come on here to talk about that necessarily, but man, 1:17:05.960 --> 1:17:10.880 this is hip hop. We just were just so much 1:17:10.920 --> 1:17:13.360 bigger and better than that. Man, And we need your 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:16.120 opinion too, because people don't get your opinion. Yeah, well, 1:17:16.439 --> 1:17:18.479 you know, I stay quiet on all of us. I 1:17:18.600 --> 1:17:20.320 tried to stay out of ship. Are we taking onto 1:17:20.320 --> 1:17:22.320 the show of Purple Rain? Let's taken on the shot 1:17:22.360 --> 1:17:33.280 of purple rain purples? Yes, please, we have legendary print 1:17:33.320 --> 1:17:37.519 stories here. Drink? Did he float the purple? Purple smoke 1:17:37.680 --> 1:17:45.280 every time? Prince, We're so cool. I've tried for years 1:17:45.320 --> 1:17:48.240 to make records for him. My first attempt at making 1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:57.040 a record with him for him, Uh, UM's fronting frighten 1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:03.200 was Prince, that's crazy. I'm finally figured this out. How 1:18:03.320 --> 1:18:07.080 far did that go? He didn't. He didn't want it, 1:18:07.880 --> 1:18:09.280 so he didn't even take it all right, tom On, 1:18:09.720 --> 1:18:16.360 did he hear the whole front? He heard? Um? I 1:18:16.479 --> 1:18:22.800 think he heard the melodies and again it's been so long, 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:25.080 he might have heard the hook and maybe the melodies 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:27.120 for the verse or whatever it was. When I finished 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:29.439 the verses, No, I think I wrote a different version 1:18:29.520 --> 1:18:32.840 of it a little bit for him, and uh he 1:18:33.240 --> 1:18:35.439 you know, he wasn't into it. It's one of my 1:18:35.520 --> 1:18:38.320 favorite real records of man. That was me pretending to 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:43.160 be him. Really, Yeah, you got me my all of 1:18:43.200 --> 1:18:49.120 my I'm telling all of my you go see you 1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:51.599 all right? So you was trying to that's your Prince 1:18:51.680 --> 1:18:53.599 in person that I was trying to, just the one 1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:55.960 good I thought would have been good for him at 1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:58.160 that time, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, nah, 1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:01.120 but we did do either for it or after that. Again, 1:19:01.160 --> 1:19:04.360 I'm sorry the chronology drunk facts. We got drunk facts here. Uh, 1:19:04.560 --> 1:19:09.920 don't fire me, Richard mill Um, but my time is off. Um. 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:12.040 So you've got that at one point five Richard mill 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:14.320 On too. We'll get to that later. Were watching me, 1:19:14.400 --> 1:19:17.559 watching only but only dude, I know that you wouldn't hope. 1:19:17.560 --> 1:19:18.960 I think it's the only dude, I know what they 1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:24.400 only your mill But we'll give me that later. So 1:19:24.880 --> 1:19:30.200 so that one, I just felt like we did all 1:19:30.240 --> 1:19:33.160 this other one the remix called the greatest story that's 1:19:33.200 --> 1:19:35.360 ever been told. I think that might have been before. 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:37.120 And then I tried to set then I tried to 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:39.560 like make frightened for him, and he just was like, 1:19:41.439 --> 1:19:43.160 I don't even know we heard back. The answer was 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:45.960 just no, I could hear him now that I think about, 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:48.160 I could hear him on that, and that would have 1:19:48.240 --> 1:20:14.080 been incredible, dude, d yeah, that would have been I 1:20:14.280 --> 1:20:18.759 was like trying, that's why they're brown. Thank thank bang, 1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:26.559 thank thank thank thank But he wasn't into it. Michael 1:20:26.640 --> 1:20:30.680 Michael Michael turned us down because that's my next day, 1:20:31.000 --> 1:20:33.720 back to back Prince Michael. But they both turned us down. 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:37.640 They were like, that's the second Remember I told you 1:20:37.840 --> 1:20:41.599 top ten phone calls in my whole life A second 1:20:41.680 --> 1:20:45.479 top ten is this is after you tell me they're 1:20:45.479 --> 1:20:50.040 doing cheers whatever. Alright, cool, it's really really blown now, 1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:55.080 oh no drops, And now I'm like elegant to a 1:20:55.160 --> 1:21:01.080 certain extent. People like Hype Williams video video. Right. That 1:21:01.240 --> 1:21:03.320 was where that was where whenever anything it was hot, 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:08.120 we'd be like, remember that time. That was a different era. 1:21:08.600 --> 1:21:12.920 So you hit me and said, yo, I just said 1:21:13.000 --> 1:21:17.840 Michael Jackson some beats. I'm like, I'm like, like, I 1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:20.800 didn't understand this talk because I'm like, damn, I'm not 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:25.360 no Michael Jackson ever at all. So I'm like, where 1:21:26.720 --> 1:21:30.519 you said to me? He told we, Nope, I don't 1:21:30.560 --> 1:21:35.160 think nor we will rhyme on that. I was like, 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:45.839 my life is done. Yo. John mcclaim was his manager 1:21:45.880 --> 1:21:48.519 at the time. We sat him pretty much all the 1:21:48.560 --> 1:21:50.920 stuff you guys are hearing on the first Justified album. 1:21:51.040 --> 1:21:55.719 That's all the Michael stuff to justin Justin Timberla, Oh, yes, okay, 1:21:55.760 --> 1:21:59.120 go ahead, all but one song. They were all written 1:21:59.200 --> 1:22:03.400 for uh Michael. Whatever of Michael's is. Remember the time 1:22:03.439 --> 1:22:05.880 era this is right at the super colg right, you 1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:14.360 robbed My World right before that and m and John 1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:20.920 McClain was like, man, Michael, don't want that ship. They 1:22:21.040 --> 1:22:29.320 want the ship that you're giving Nora. I'm like, immediately 1:22:29.400 --> 1:22:31.400 thought of Michael with the crypts in the blood picture. 1:22:36.280 --> 1:22:38.200 I don't know, no bosh it. He was like, yo, 1:22:38.320 --> 1:22:40.880 he wanted that super thug. You know it wasn't other 1:22:40.960 --> 1:22:47.000 one y'all just did I would have been a crazy Michael. 1:22:48.080 --> 1:22:50.920 Remember where I called me? I was like, because I 1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:54.320 haven't really like I'm still a kid. I'm twenty maybe one. 1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:57.559 When he said that to me, It's like, yo, Michael 1:22:57.640 --> 1:23:01.720 told me I've been you said maybe the manager. He said, 1:23:02.000 --> 1:23:03.800 they want this ship that would no where we wrong 1:23:03.920 --> 1:23:06.200 on And I was sitting back like, I was like, 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:07.920 I hung up the phone because in my mind it 1:23:08.000 --> 1:23:11.519 was a flip star Tech. So I hung up and 1:23:11.600 --> 1:23:15.120 I was like, what the fund did? I just here 1:23:15.640 --> 1:23:18.519 like I didn't know how to assess that. And Farrell 1:23:18.680 --> 1:23:23.679 was telling me, no, I couldn't make wreck music for Michael. 1:23:23.840 --> 1:23:26.400 I wanted to keep you in mind, like something he 1:23:26.439 --> 1:23:29.240 would rhyme too, and I was just I was blown away. 1:23:29.280 --> 1:23:33.800 That's that's my top like Biggie called me before he 1:23:33.840 --> 1:23:36.799 passed away. So this is my top ten. Did Biggie 1:23:37.120 --> 1:23:41.880 say he wanted to r and yo? Yeah? Oh my god? 1:23:42.160 --> 1:23:45.040 It was crazy and what happened? What happened? Why? Why 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:47.000 did it not happen? He was in l A when 1:23:47.040 --> 1:23:48.720 he called me, so you know, you know how God 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:51.760 blessed that rest of the biggest smalls. But on that 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:54.680 l A trip he had called me toking. Um. So 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:56.360 this is my top ten calls on my whole life. 1:23:56.360 --> 1:23:58.479 I'm gonna write him down. I don't write him down. 1:23:58.479 --> 1:24:02.240 IM gonna make a book my top but first of all, 1:24:02.439 --> 1:24:05.240 you have to do a book and you and it 1:24:05.320 --> 1:24:09.200 has to be my top ten calls, top ten calls. 1:24:10.000 --> 1:24:11.479 I think. I think I'm gonna make down a book. 1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:15.560 This is listen listen, and you have to be so 1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:19.320 vivid about these stories. Just your brother, you know, this 1:24:19.439 --> 1:24:22.160 is what I do okay with with the Michael Jackson story, 1:24:22.240 --> 1:24:25.160 I know, but hold on a second, let him produce. 1:24:25.200 --> 1:24:30.920 You brother, I've always my whole life got there, you know, 1:24:31.120 --> 1:24:35.080 like like it has to be ten calls. By the way, 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:37.320 any any of the publishers that are listening to this, 1:24:37.479 --> 1:24:39.439 and let's the good ones come on, come out of 1:24:39.479 --> 1:24:42.880 the water works. This is amazing. It's super colorful because 1:24:42.920 --> 1:24:47.920 those calls are fucking crazy. Yo, fucking yo, notorious b 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:52.600 I G wanted to get on and you know, my 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:56.160 dumb ass bl I'm sitting there thinking my shirt is bootleg, 1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:58.200 so I'm like because it wasn't out, so I'm like, yo, 1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:02.080 but I forgot nat Iris, who produced it, was worth 1:25:02.160 --> 1:25:05.080 a bad boy, so he played it for Biggie exclusively. 1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:12.439 Does anyone know how incredible nice Sheen Marix was it is? 1:25:13.760 --> 1:25:19.320 Does anyone know that Nashi Marix? Do you all understand 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:22.519 what he did with Queen Bitch? Do you all understand 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:27.040 Nashin Marix, brother, I think I've met you one time. 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:34.200 If you're listening to this, you are absolutely a periodic inspiration. 1:25:34.920 --> 1:25:38.960 What you do and what you've done with so many 1:25:39.160 --> 1:25:48.320 songs has moved me. Chad pusha fam like you don't 1:25:48.360 --> 1:25:52.400 even understand. You know how many people got shot to 1:25:52.560 --> 1:26:06.479 Queen Beich, to Queen Bitch because no bullshit. Listen, listen, listen, listen. 1:26:07.840 --> 1:26:10.439 I don't want nobody to get shot. But I'm just 1:26:10.560 --> 1:26:14.240 telling you as a fan from a Stanley Kubrick Steven 1:26:14.320 --> 1:26:20.639 Spielberg perspective on the movie A bro Possess, how many 1:26:20.760 --> 1:26:26.559 times somebody got shot? To Queen Bread, to queen bitch? 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:35.800 Are you here? Bla bla blackap You don't understand what 1:26:35.880 --> 1:26:38.799 they did two D the Norfolk Enforcement. You don't understand 1:26:38.840 --> 1:26:41.240 some of the most you listen. I know New York 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:45.120 got guns, but you don't understand. We're listening in Virginia. 1:26:45.200 --> 1:26:49.439 They senselessly kill. It's a very different thing, you know. 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:53.840 They just jealousy and envy. Envy from a distance was 1:26:54.000 --> 1:26:56.720 enough for you to get shot at. And that's not 1:26:57.160 --> 1:27:03.719 something that I was into because I was done. However, 1:27:05.080 --> 1:27:08.360 and the closest to the closest to the exit with 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:10.320 my old g is going, are you good? They're not. 1:27:10.479 --> 1:27:12.200 They know not to do that dumb ship over here, 1:27:12.960 --> 1:27:15.880 shout all the like, all of my own g's, all 1:27:15.880 --> 1:27:18.400 of all the back one like them. They're like those 1:27:18.439 --> 1:27:21.599 guys were like deities walking around like Apollo and fucking 1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:27.400 they were different. However, shout that purple rain, Yeah, that 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:37.840 shook one's blood. Money when number records came on in Virginia. Listen, 1:27:37.880 --> 1:27:41.720 I don't understand. I don't understand how to really communicate 1:27:41.800 --> 1:27:46.320 that to y'all. And nashe Marix was one of those guys, 1:27:47.040 --> 1:27:49.360 those beats that he would make. I don't know what 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:53.040 the funk would possess this guy to put some of 1:27:53.080 --> 1:27:59.320 those baselines down to some of those samples. But man, listen, 1:27:59.439 --> 1:28:02.479 I take my hat off to you, brother. You are 1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:08.800 fucking different, and I encourage all young producers. It's not 1:28:09.000 --> 1:28:13.640 trapped music, it's not rap music up today. It's from 1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:19.080 a different era. And I'm telling you right now it 1:28:20.439 --> 1:28:26.280 incited riots. We're done. Go ahead, biggie. You wanted to 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:28.720 be a biggie, wanted to be in be on T 1:28:28.880 --> 1:28:32.560 O n Y. That is like, oh my god. So 1:28:32.720 --> 1:28:35.920 this is from Charlemagne direct right, he said. I always 1:28:36.000 --> 1:28:39.200 wonder if in his mind did he ever compete with 1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:42.880 Timberland since they vote from Virginia, Like, was it ever 1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:44.960 like a competition? At one point I did think y'all 1:28:45.040 --> 1:28:47.640 was in competition. Timberland has always been better than me, 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:50.559 and I feel sound wise it was a whole different lane. 1:28:51.400 --> 1:28:57.400 Timberland has always been better than me. Period. Timberland did 1:28:57.680 --> 1:29:02.320 like he four feet that's the respect that you have. 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:08.040 Come on, Timberland. Timberland didn't he to be the guys, 1:29:08.320 --> 1:29:13.919 you guys, let's stop. Timberland did four page letter. Timberland 1:29:13.960 --> 1:29:18.880 did what are we talking about? It's just it's it, 1:29:19.240 --> 1:29:23.840 it's over. What is jigger man? Trigger man? Hit your 1:29:23.960 --> 1:29:30.439 van up. I'm gonna stop right then, come on, I'm 1:29:30.479 --> 1:29:34.519 beat anything on you on versus again? No man again 1:29:34.600 --> 1:29:45.000 city for anybody? Would you ever think about doing the verse? Never? 1:29:45.400 --> 1:29:48.680 Never know, because that's just it's not my thing. I 1:29:48.760 --> 1:29:52.599 love watching them, but I just like I would get 1:29:52.600 --> 1:29:54.840 in my own way. I stopped playing ship. I see 1:29:54.920 --> 1:29:57.439 like I play your records. You just you just it 1:29:57.560 --> 1:29:59.040 just wouldn't be the right look for it. But I've 1:29:59.040 --> 1:30:01.040 seen your comedies at you with like it's like like 1:30:01.400 --> 1:30:04.240 it's like back right, they say back, and he got 1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:07.240 baract the nigga speaker, right. So then the guy he 1:30:07.360 --> 1:30:14.920 says with Barrack says, and then it's the guy that says, well, 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:16.719 I would I would like to be your nigga speaker 1:30:16.760 --> 1:30:22.120 at that night you say something cool cool, humble ship, 1:30:22.120 --> 1:30:26.920 and I'm like, what do he means this? I get 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:36.680 fun with this right, I'm telling me, I don't be 1:30:36.800 --> 1:30:41.479 like they listen to me. Bro, Holy moly, nobody can't 1:30:41.760 --> 1:30:49.000 your broom. I don't fry Timper. I mean speaking because 1:30:49.000 --> 1:30:50.280 I don't want to say nigga no more. I don't 1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:53.639 want to say that. Timber the king, Bro, Timber the King, 1:30:54.400 --> 1:30:58.679 Timber the King. All right, so would you pop out Kan? Yeah? 1:30:58.720 --> 1:31:00.720 You on Kan yea in Verson. That's your little man. 1:31:03.960 --> 1:31:09.240 Kanye is amazing. Bro. You wouldn't have that. I don't listen. 1:31:09.400 --> 1:31:12.200 I know my job, Bro. I'm not a boxer. I'm 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:14.920 a trainer and and and at the end of the day, 1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:17.479 like you know, because I was I'm lucky to be 1:31:17.520 --> 1:31:19.040 able to throw a couple of shots and get a 1:31:19.080 --> 1:31:22.360 couple of a couple of belts. I'm very grateful. But 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:26.240 this is not my fight, Like, it's just not my thing. 1:31:26.360 --> 1:31:27.960 How you can say that, I can't say that. They 1:31:27.960 --> 1:31:31.479 won't let me. They're trying to make me battle everybody. Well, 1:31:31.520 --> 1:31:32.880 how can you can say that? And you're like, I 1:31:32.960 --> 1:31:35.240 don't know, I just I just I know my place, 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:44.040 you know, Michael Jackson with that, No, No, I know 1:31:44.160 --> 1:31:46.160 my place. I will say this. I will say that 1:31:46.439 --> 1:31:48.240 you know I wasn't. I wasn't sure of what to 1:31:48.320 --> 1:31:50.920 expect here. I know I have a loving respect for 1:31:51.000 --> 1:31:53.680 your show, and I had such a I'm having such 1:31:53.720 --> 1:32:01.639 a great time. Man. Another shot of purple rate brand. Man. 1:32:02.360 --> 1:32:04.000 I just want you to know, man, our show is 1:32:04.000 --> 1:32:07.320 about saluting O. I see it. Legends, I see it. 1:32:07.560 --> 1:32:09.200 You know when they people got ten years and more, 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:11.439 they say this over right now, you know there's this 1:32:11.560 --> 1:32:15.760 new young producers. Salute this new young producers. You don't 1:32:15.760 --> 1:32:20.840 feel like that. So I also think that you should 1:32:20.920 --> 1:32:24.599 have a partnership with a florist. So all the florist, 1:32:25.680 --> 1:32:29.519 what we need flowers, All the florists that are out there. 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:32.400 There's a lot of different brands, a lot of different versions, 1:32:32.439 --> 1:32:34.479 and a lot of different places coming from different places. 1:32:34.600 --> 1:32:38.760 Like there should be a Drink Champs like addition of flowers, 1:32:38.800 --> 1:32:40.760 because that's all these guys are doing and giving people 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:46.560 their flowers that so you know, you need that. You 1:32:47.080 --> 1:32:49.720 you need to you need to call, write, email, do 1:32:49.800 --> 1:32:51.920 whatever you need to do to connect with these guys. 1:32:52.560 --> 1:32:55.160 And there should be a Drink Champs florist. And I'm 1:32:55.240 --> 1:32:58.200 just saying people will order, people will order from here, 1:32:58.280 --> 1:33:00.519 just because they want to be supportive of of of 1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:05.240 black and Latin X entrepreneurs like and they'd be very 1:33:05.320 --> 1:33:07.560 supportive of what you do because you do this on 1:33:07.680 --> 1:33:09.960 your podcast, like you said, you said, Yo, we like 1:33:10.280 --> 1:33:12.160 this is a show about giving people their flowers and 1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:16.280 ship right, so you should have that merchandise. They have flowers. 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:18.360 You should actually have flowers. Were gonna have a girl 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:20.360 give it to you because I feel uncomfortable giving you 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:24.439 flowers right now. I'm telling you see the kind of 1:33:24.479 --> 1:33:33.120 money that you can make a right brother, I don't 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:36.640 tell you something. Not only that, you also had the 1:33:36.720 --> 1:33:40.400 most disrespectful jury in the game. At one point. You 1:33:40.439 --> 1:33:43.720 would like to Eric be a rock Kim off the 1:33:43.920 --> 1:33:48.120 new producers like like you like, you know serious, Let's 1:33:48.160 --> 1:33:51.080 keep it real, Let's keep it real, Let's keep it 1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:54.479 brute diamonds. I didn't even know what that meant. I 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:59.120 didn't even know. We just love it. Was like, let's 1:33:59.120 --> 1:34:01.720 talk about your jewelry game for one, Why are you 1:34:01.800 --> 1:34:05.320 really getting into it right now? Why not so jewelry wise? 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:13.760 I um, I was what the fund is that? So 1:34:13.880 --> 1:34:16.679 what it's a mix of what and what? It's imagine 1:34:16.680 --> 1:34:23.160 a bloody Mary beer drink. Got it? That's my line. Okay, 1:34:24.320 --> 1:34:34.679 say again, everybody ever you listen. We know almost every 1:34:34.720 --> 1:34:36.920 company here. This is what this is. We all the 1:34:36.960 --> 1:34:47.080 fooboo of the media. Everything is yes, yes, And the book, 1:34:47.200 --> 1:34:49.760 the book, and the book is important. The book is 1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:53.400 important to the legacy. The book is important to the legacy. 1:34:53.960 --> 1:34:56.360 And the florest isn't it is important to the future. 1:34:56.479 --> 1:34:59.439 Like that, like the fact that you guys literally give 1:34:59.479 --> 1:35:02.160 people that we have to do. Man, that's what we 1:35:02.240 --> 1:35:04.560 have to do. Come on there, there's some flock and 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:07.120 feel it right now, there's some some florist that's gonna 1:35:07.160 --> 1:35:09.960 contact you. Guys would be happy to be y'all's partners. 1:35:10.479 --> 1:35:13.200 And you pick them all out. God damn, you're not 1:35:13.200 --> 1:35:15.080 gonna lie. I must see you the pictures. You tell 1:35:15.120 --> 1:35:16.840 me which was to go with? When you start thinking 1:35:16.840 --> 1:35:19.720 about that, when you realize a kind of money for 1:35:19.880 --> 1:35:22.200 the make right now, you're gonna be very clear on 1:35:22.280 --> 1:35:32.559 what colors you want to pick. Good. So, wait, where 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:35.000 where are we right now? Because because the purple rain 1:35:35.120 --> 1:35:38.080 is kicking out, we might need to figure it out. 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:44.720 Purple rain, Okay, jewelry wise, jewelry rain, serious, bro so 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:49.600 so jewelry wise, Um, I've you know, I would have 1:35:49.800 --> 1:35:53.120 my like I would have like my inspiration like some sounds, 1:35:53.120 --> 1:35:55.920 I'm like, oh, you know what, you know, something as 1:35:55.960 --> 1:36:00.240 simple as a monopoly Um, thank you. Something that's simple 1:36:00.280 --> 1:36:02.240 as like a monopoly piece. I'm like, yo, I want 1:36:02.280 --> 1:36:03.599 to do this, So I want to do that, right 1:36:03.640 --> 1:36:05.800 I did never did that, but at the time I 1:36:05.880 --> 1:36:08.599 was thinking that way, or like when I was going 1:36:08.680 --> 1:36:11.360 through like my jury motions, I was also dealing with cars, 1:36:12.280 --> 1:36:15.400 so I would say, Yo, I want to do SpongeBob. 1:36:15.880 --> 1:36:18.840 That's what made him start doing SpongeBob. I want to 1:36:18.920 --> 1:36:21.640 do Smurfs. That's what had him doing Smurfs. Now he 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:24.479 was an incredible artist on his own. He did something 1:36:24.520 --> 1:36:29.200 called the Kimpson's And it was at that same time 1:36:29.280 --> 1:36:31.680 that a sense of self discovery, that you realize that 1:36:31.760 --> 1:36:34.040 you could just have your own ideas and go in 1:36:34.080 --> 1:36:36.080 there and not just have to settle for whatever Tito 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:37.519 was giving you, because I used to go to We 1:36:37.640 --> 1:36:41.240 used to go to Tito shout to listen to miss 1:36:41.320 --> 1:36:46.599 you love you brother every time he saw faces Man, 1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:52.519 and then and then there was and then I went 1:36:52.560 --> 1:36:55.840 to Then I went to Jacob and then like everything changed, 1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:57.560 and then I met Lorraine, So I you know, I 1:36:57.640 --> 1:37:03.040 stayed very very very loyal to Jacob and Lorraine. And Okay, 1:37:03.040 --> 1:37:08.960 who's Loine. That's another Lorraine Schwartz. Yeah, she's she's she's great, 1:37:09.040 --> 1:37:10.960 she's great. I have be happy to introduce you to her. 1:37:11.520 --> 1:37:15.519 So Lorraine is like Lizabeth Taylor, like you know what, 1:37:15.600 --> 1:37:18.439 I'm kind of like that, kind of like those kind 1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:24.000 of levels. Um, she did Kim's ring, she did these rings, 1:37:24.080 --> 1:37:27.320 she did my wife's ring. You know, we was early 1:37:27.439 --> 1:37:31.200 on the rain, like we you know, I'm very loyal 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:33.879 to the people I partner with, whether it's a Dida's Lorraine, 1:37:33.920 --> 1:37:36.120 whoever it is, I'm turning the lights on, I'm turning 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:41.479 everybody onto them. Um. And so jewelry wise, I just 1:37:41.600 --> 1:37:45.280 wanted to express myself, like you know what, I'm from 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:50.679 any r D And you guys can keep getting fucking crosses. 1:37:51.479 --> 1:37:54.840 I've done that, but we're gonna do something else. And 1:37:54.960 --> 1:38:00.280 so there was this one moment colorful. There was one 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:03.760 moment we went to the BT Awards. I don't know 1:38:03.920 --> 1:38:09.280 what year it was, but for a surprise, Stephen Hill 1:38:10.600 --> 1:38:17.519 brought on Slick Rick was Dougie Fresh on there with 1:38:17.640 --> 1:38:20.400 him too. At the first was Douggie Fresh on there 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:24.680 with him as well? At first, I'm not sure. I 1:38:24.760 --> 1:38:27.839 think he might have been. And if he's not, my apologies, 1:38:27.840 --> 1:38:30.200 because Dougie is every fucking thing and they got gotta dance. 1:38:30.880 --> 1:38:36.479 Years later, he's everything. Slick Rick was on there with 1:38:36.680 --> 1:38:42.680 a short suit, meaning a suit with shorts right, burgundy 1:38:44.200 --> 1:38:51.400 with Burgundy Clark's on m and his jewelry and I 1:38:51.520 --> 1:38:54.800 am seen on the b T. Yeah. I don't know 1:38:54.840 --> 1:38:56.600 if it was a BT Awards it or if it 1:38:56.800 --> 1:38:59.680 was the BT Hip Hop Awards. I'm not sure. I 1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:03.560 can't remember. And he had on all that jewelry. And 1:39:03.640 --> 1:39:07.719 I called Jacob that night. I said, listen to me, Okay, 1:39:08.439 --> 1:39:12.840 this is in full transparency. There was no big Cuban 1:39:12.880 --> 1:39:17.320 links before this. He had on a cuban and I 1:39:17.400 --> 1:39:19.080 thought about some of the stuff that he didn't have 1:39:19.200 --> 1:39:21.960 one that night that I've always loved. And I called Jacob. 1:39:22.000 --> 1:39:24.479 I said, listen, we're doing three chains. We're gonna do 1:39:24.920 --> 1:39:27.559 a bigger Cuban than you've ever seen, and the Gucci 1:39:27.680 --> 1:39:30.679 link and then we're gonna do a much bigger Cuban 1:39:32.720 --> 1:39:35.400 and then we're gonna do a Gucci link. But the 1:39:35.479 --> 1:39:40.519 difference is I'm doing them in white gold and they're 1:39:40.520 --> 1:39:47.160 all gonna be pavede. There was no pavade cubanstinum, no platinum. 1:39:47.160 --> 1:39:49.720 I wouldn't have been able to lift my don know. 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:53.200 That is like lots of diamonds, like you know when 1:39:53.240 --> 1:39:58.360 you see teeth, they're pavede, like paved, but paved. And 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:01.560 I was like, listen, we're do wing. It's gonna be 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:07.599 all sugar coated, basically paved. So pave Cuban link, paved 1:40:07.720 --> 1:40:13.679 smaller Cuban link, pavede uh Gucci link. And the first 1:40:13.760 --> 1:40:16.920 one is going to be of the one that I 1:40:16.960 --> 1:40:20.320 dout forget the Saints name that's on the crutch. That 1:40:20.479 --> 1:40:23.400 was okay, that was me imitating slick Rick full on, 1:40:23.600 --> 1:40:24.920 and I only wore it for a little bit and 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:27.000 after a while I realized, okay, this is too slick Rick, 1:40:27.200 --> 1:40:29.960 and I gave it to Nigo that I replaced that 1:40:30.560 --> 1:40:35.400 with something that with with the BBC helmet, all all 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:39.720 pavede out three D and then I did the one 1:40:39.800 --> 1:40:44.120 of ny R D but in the bait characters all 1:40:44.240 --> 1:40:47.519 in the color coded stones and then there was like 1:40:47.720 --> 1:40:50.439 one more and I can't remember what it was, but 1:40:50.520 --> 1:40:54.479 either way, then I got the bracelet that was an 1:40:54.520 --> 1:40:59.439 homage to slick Rick bro that was like, slick Rick, 1:40:59.479 --> 1:41:03.160 You're the King, You're the King, and you know I 1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:06.200 love slick Ricks so much. When he came home day 1:41:06.280 --> 1:41:07.320 was like, yo, I want you to go in with 1:41:07.320 --> 1:41:09.040 a stick and I was like, what are you crazy? 1:41:09.080 --> 1:41:10.840 I'm doing for fucking free. What do you mean, it's 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:14.000 fucking slick Rick. My brothers and I. All we did 1:41:14.120 --> 1:41:16.800 was right around and listen to that, you know, the 1:41:16.880 --> 1:41:20.439 adventures of slick Rick's story, like what that whole ship 1:41:20.600 --> 1:41:24.640 mona Lisa hang on record in the world. Just so 1:41:24.720 --> 1:41:29.360 you guys understand. I got my first role when I 1:41:29.479 --> 1:41:31.960 first got my first rolls, boys, I wrote a down 1:41:32.000 --> 1:41:34.360 in Virginia with some white models from New York. I 1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:36.000 was like, yeah, you guys caught a coming to Virginia 1:41:36.040 --> 1:41:38.720 with me, and let's just drop a fucking round and 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:41.160 slow motion with the hazard lights on. And I made 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:42.720 them listen to that. They had never heard of it 1:41:42.760 --> 1:41:45.320 than their life, but you guys have to understand what 1:41:45.560 --> 1:41:47.559 this is. By the end of the night, they were 1:41:47.600 --> 1:41:49.600 all singing in the world that the songs together, it 1:41:49.680 --> 1:41:53.920 was great. Still Poppy is got them and keep talking 1:41:53.960 --> 1:41:58.400 that ship. So so when I when I made that jewelry, 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:01.280 was like, that was everything. I'll never forget. The first 1:42:01.280 --> 1:42:03.360 time I unveil it, we did drop it like we 1:42:03.439 --> 1:42:05.360 played drop it like it's hot for the first time 1:42:05.400 --> 1:42:10.120 in the Staples Center and it was so many gangs 1:42:10.200 --> 1:42:13.160 in there that I was like, yo, are we really 1:42:13.240 --> 1:42:14.920 going out there? And Snoop was like, nah, pe, they 1:42:15.000 --> 1:42:16.880 love us, and like Bloods was in there and he 1:42:16.960 --> 1:42:19.000 saw first of all. That's when I realized it was 1:42:19.080 --> 1:42:21.560 more than one crip. And I thought it was just 1:42:21.640 --> 1:42:23.720 like Bloods and the crips, it's more than one of 1:42:23.800 --> 1:42:26.799 all of that. There was like the Grape Street Crips. 1:42:27.240 --> 1:42:29.800 They were in purple. I was like what. Then they 1:42:29.840 --> 1:42:32.560 were in purple. Then there was another group there was 1:42:32.600 --> 1:42:34.800 We're in green. I mean like there were so many 1:42:34.880 --> 1:42:36.519 of them. They were throwing signs and ship and we 1:42:36.560 --> 1:42:38.200 played dropping like inside and he was like go ahead, 1:42:38.280 --> 1:42:41.720 p and I unzipped the ship and you know, had 1:42:41.800 --> 1:42:45.519 my moment, what did you have on a bunch of 1:42:45.560 --> 1:42:47.320 babe stuff? I was it was baked at the time 1:42:47.400 --> 1:42:50.600 Nego still owned Babe, he hadn't sold it yet, and 1:42:50.960 --> 1:42:54.639 M yeah so bait yeah a long time ago. Yeah, 1:42:56.760 --> 1:43:00.160 uh not my brother and not the general. So I 1:43:00.200 --> 1:43:02.080 don't wear it. I ain't. I ain't want babe and 1:43:02.360 --> 1:43:06.560 ship since I wait, I didn't know that. Yeah, no, 1:43:06.640 --> 1:43:08.519 you know, no disrespect to them or whatever, but it 1:43:08.560 --> 1:43:12.760 ain't Nego me and Nego is human made. Remember the 1:43:12.840 --> 1:43:16.479 first you gave me a pair of babes, they were 1:43:16.520 --> 1:43:24.040 like like brown Swede collectors items. Right now, I ain't 1:43:24.080 --> 1:43:25.840 got it, but let me just tell you how much 1:43:26.000 --> 1:43:29.120 I wore them ships in my hood. They joked on 1:43:29.360 --> 1:43:32.479 me the first pair like this is before no one had. 1:43:32.600 --> 1:43:34.760 You gave me a pair and I wore him in 1:43:34.840 --> 1:43:37.439 my hood And I was like yo, and I kept 1:43:37.479 --> 1:43:41.840 saying they hunting people like those is fake up doll, 1:43:43.880 --> 1:43:47.320 like this is bait man, And they're like, yo, those 1:43:47.439 --> 1:43:49.599 this weak, Yo, what the fun are you doing? Like Yo, 1:43:49.840 --> 1:43:53.680 this is for felling them sneaker. This is gonna blow yo. 1:43:53.800 --> 1:43:57.920 They baked on me I'm talking about I was just 1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:00.280 they were just laughing at me, and I just said 1:44:00.320 --> 1:44:03.640 fuck it. I rolled with it. And now all the 1:44:03.800 --> 1:44:13.160 dudes like you're my bad. Yeah, that's that's Nigo Bro. 1:44:13.320 --> 1:44:15.800 Nigo Nigo is you know, and and you know we 1:44:15.920 --> 1:44:19.519 talk about like us and rap music and like, you know, 1:44:19.680 --> 1:44:22.800 that culture. You know, part of that time. What made 1:44:22.840 --> 1:44:24.880 you even wanted to get into that type of world 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:28.920 because you already dominated. So you asked me about the jewelry. 1:44:29.479 --> 1:44:31.040 J By the way, I had a whole of the 1:44:31.120 --> 1:44:34.080 lifetime after the big jewelry. That's when we just started 1:44:34.080 --> 1:44:37.439 getting them more sophisticated, like just thinking about things a 1:44:37.479 --> 1:44:40.080 little bit differently. Yeah, I see your your whole risks 1:44:40.200 --> 1:44:45.360 just difference. Is that a Cardier blast it made for 1:44:45.560 --> 1:44:48.040 you for Cardia? This is Nigga. Nigga made this. This 1:44:48.200 --> 1:44:50.599 is a human maid. This is a human maid bracelet 1:44:50.880 --> 1:44:55.280 like Cardier, Yes, sir, Yeah, elsewhere. And that's Cactus plan 1:44:56.920 --> 1:45:01.479 She's Cactus Yeah, yeah, Captain Planning. She got she's over 1:45:01.560 --> 1:45:04.720 with Nike as well. She's something else. So he's a 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:06.880 crazy thing. So Jacob, you asked me about the jury. 1:45:06.960 --> 1:45:09.519 So Jacob called me. He said, you know, I got 1:45:09.640 --> 1:45:12.439 this guy. You know, he likes your stuff, you know, 1:45:13.240 --> 1:45:17.519 you know, you know, good good, good, good, good client. 1:45:17.640 --> 1:45:19.960 He's a good client. You know, he's from Japan. You 1:45:20.000 --> 1:45:21.840 don't know, you don't know this guy, and mego, he's 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:24.160 fucking reach. He's you know, he's got this company used 1:45:24.160 --> 1:45:27.000 to check it out. Jacob was the one that introduced 1:45:27.040 --> 1:45:30.320 me to Nigo and Bait because Nego kept coming to 1:45:30.439 --> 1:45:34.120 New York. Go and listen, you're making jury for this guy. 1:45:34.320 --> 1:45:37.280 You made him this Cuban link. You made this for 1:45:37.400 --> 1:45:39.760 him in yellow. I wanted in yellow, and then I 1:45:39.880 --> 1:45:42.280 wanted in rows, and then I wanted in white, and 1:45:42.439 --> 1:45:45.840 everything that I got for a couple of years before 1:45:45.960 --> 1:45:48.240 Nigo met me, he would get everything that I got 1:45:48.960 --> 1:45:51.920 in in different versions, one in rows, one in yellow, 1:45:52.000 --> 1:45:55.200 and one in white. And Jacob was like, look, look, 1:45:55.240 --> 1:45:57.280 you don't believe me. He pulled at his desk, he 1:45:57.400 --> 1:45:59.920 opened the drawers and they showed me the photos of 1:46:00.160 --> 1:46:02.519 me and the jury, that jury, the jury that Jacob 1:46:02.560 --> 1:46:05.280 had made for me. And Nego was a fan. She said, 1:46:05.439 --> 1:46:07.400 I have this because he asked for the same thing. 1:46:07.520 --> 1:46:09.840 It's fucking crazy. You gotta meet this guy, trust me, 1:46:10.000 --> 1:46:13.240 just do me a favor. So Lloyd knew him as 1:46:13.320 --> 1:46:16.680 well because when Lloyd went out there with Calise when 1:46:16.760 --> 1:46:19.479 he was like road managing her, they went over to 1:46:19.600 --> 1:46:22.160 Nego and they met Neigo to send the other So 1:46:22.320 --> 1:46:24.040 I needed a studio to do something. When I was 1:46:24.080 --> 1:46:25.920 out there, and Jacob kept going, Yo, you need to 1:46:25.960 --> 1:46:28.280 go sit with this guy. He's a fan of yours. 1:46:28.640 --> 1:46:32.560 So when I went to Neigo's office where his studio was, 1:46:32.680 --> 1:46:36.160 he he had an office that had a showroom, production 1:46:36.280 --> 1:46:40.200 room for clothes and sneakers, and then like in Italia, 1:46:40.760 --> 1:46:43.600 and then he also had a showroom and below that 1:46:43.720 --> 1:46:45.840 was the studio. He was like, Yo, you need a studio, 1:46:46.040 --> 1:46:48.120 Come use my studio. So I used the studio. I 1:46:48.200 --> 1:46:50.599 got done doing I needed to do at one upstairs, 1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:52.760 and I saw all these bib stairs that kind of 1:46:52.800 --> 1:46:54.800 looked like ups down up towns in a in a 1:46:55.000 --> 1:46:57.560 a in a way. But the color ways was so 1:46:57.760 --> 1:47:02.920 fucking crazy and literally, like, let's say, so those first babes, 1:47:03.120 --> 1:47:05.439 they was already made as you as you saw. I 1:47:05.600 --> 1:47:08.479 walked in the showroom and then I'm a I'm a 1:47:08.560 --> 1:47:10.800 sample size. I'm a nine nine, nine and a half. 1:47:12.000 --> 1:47:15.080 So let's say there's three colors here and there's not, 1:47:15.920 --> 1:47:20.960 but let's say there is green, white, and beige. He 1:47:21.000 --> 1:47:23.280 would have a babe that was green white, and beige. 1:47:23.840 --> 1:47:26.080 But then he would have it where the colors were reversed, 1:47:28.479 --> 1:47:32.800 so literally each colorway he would do twice and just 1:47:33.000 --> 1:47:36.400 reverse where they were. And I walked down there and 1:47:36.479 --> 1:47:40.840 I was like, this motherfucker's a genius. I've never seen 1:47:40.880 --> 1:47:42.840 nobody do that, because really, right now, if you think 1:47:42.880 --> 1:47:45.639 about a sneaker drop right, you see a color away, 1:47:46.160 --> 1:47:49.880 it's one pair. What if the toe box and the 1:47:50.000 --> 1:47:54.439 heel switched the colors, but it's the same three colors 1:47:54.600 --> 1:47:58.639 but just rearranged. When I saw he did that, I say, hey, 1:47:59.760 --> 1:48:05.920 hey man, who are you who? I just want to 1:48:06.000 --> 1:48:08.720 learn from you and he was like no, like I 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:11.360 help you. And then that's when we did BBC together, 1:48:11.400 --> 1:48:13.719 and that's when we did ice cream together, and everything changed. 1:48:14.439 --> 1:48:17.439 And that changed my life because at that point I 1:48:17.560 --> 1:48:20.600 was only thinking about the beat. The beat was my 1:48:20.760 --> 1:48:23.280 only concern. Then are the beat in the in the 1:48:23.360 --> 1:48:25.600 songs were my only concern? Then I realized that like 1:48:26.040 --> 1:48:29.559 there's beats, there's music, and then there's merch, and then 1:48:29.600 --> 1:48:33.680 there's like clothes. And he really opened me up. He 1:48:33.880 --> 1:48:36.679 really really really really made me look at things very differently, 1:48:36.760 --> 1:48:39.679 and I saw that this guy's imagination had no bounds. 1:48:40.520 --> 1:48:43.680 And that's when I realized that like, not only I 1:48:43.760 --> 1:48:48.360 could do this, but like the kids that we see today, 1:48:48.400 --> 1:48:51.000 they're doing it. But that's when I realized that that 1:48:51.120 --> 1:48:52.920 was gonna happen. I was like, because if I see this, 1:48:53.040 --> 1:48:56.360 they're gonna see it, you know what I'm saying. So 1:48:56.520 --> 1:48:58.599 that that, like that like changed everything. And I mean 1:48:58.680 --> 1:49:00.800 he was different, this guy. Like some people put their 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:02.479 ship in the safe. This guy when I went to 1:49:03.240 --> 1:49:06.680 his house and like his apartment, he had like a 1:49:06.800 --> 1:49:10.479 big Mac toolbox that that they use when they're like 1:49:10.640 --> 1:49:13.599 service in in the pit stop of like a formula one. 1:49:14.360 --> 1:49:16.840 You know those big toolboxes with the wheels on it, 1:49:16.920 --> 1:49:19.560 and ship, you know the big blue toolbox that was 1:49:19.640 --> 1:49:22.280 like you had trades and ship. Motherfucker had his jewelry 1:49:22.320 --> 1:49:26.840 in there with lights like he was. He blew my mind. 1:49:27.400 --> 1:49:30.599 And that's when I was like, oh, I'm never I'm 1:49:30.680 --> 1:49:33.840 never going the other way like I am. We we 1:49:34.080 --> 1:49:36.519 have the ability to do whatever the funk we want. 1:49:36.600 --> 1:49:39.120 That's like, you're gonna do this book like you guys 1:49:39.160 --> 1:49:43.160 will mark this day we are? We is this December? Right? 1:49:43.240 --> 1:49:47.760 This is December? Someone up. There's so many publishers have 1:49:47.960 --> 1:49:50.240 heard of this, and some of the young scouts have 1:49:50.360 --> 1:49:53.400 heard this. You're gonna do this book, and there's a 1:49:53.439 --> 1:49:56.800 florist or botanist has heard this interview and they're gonna 1:49:56.840 --> 1:49:59.800 do this with you. Right, you're gonna text me a 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:03.240 all me. By the way, You're not only gonna text 1:50:03.320 --> 1:50:05.519 me or call me. But do you guys, do you 1:50:05.600 --> 1:50:08.240 guys get the positive asks for affirmations that I get 1:50:08.320 --> 1:50:13.320 from this man, Yo, this ube. Let me tell you 1:50:13.439 --> 1:50:18.400 something I would be Listen. I'll be caught up in 1:50:18.520 --> 1:50:20.880 so many things that I'm doing and I don't give 1:50:20.880 --> 1:50:23.200 a funk where I am in the world. Or if 1:50:23.240 --> 1:50:28.400 you look at this last you know, twelve to twelve 1:50:28.520 --> 1:50:31.080 to let's call it twelve to fourteen, fifteen months of 1:50:31.200 --> 1:50:34.080 like what we've been going through with COVID because some 1:50:34.200 --> 1:50:41.760 of us knew earlier than others. Um this man relentlessly. 1:50:42.880 --> 1:50:46.800 If not every week, every two weeks, if not every 1:50:46.840 --> 1:50:49.200 two weeks, every three weeks, but then after that third week, 1:50:49.280 --> 1:50:53.360 it might be three three consecutive weeks. This man will 1:50:53.520 --> 1:50:58.519 hit me. Just say hey, positive vibes, and let me 1:50:58.560 --> 1:51:04.000 tell you something. God is a is a reciprocal god. 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:08.960 This universe. This universe is a reciprocal universe, and you 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:11.960 have no idea. When you send me those positive affirmations 1:51:13.200 --> 1:51:15.880 and those positive words, you need to know it's coming 1:51:15.920 --> 1:51:22.280 back to So it don't mean none of us. You 1:51:22.320 --> 1:51:26.840 sip to it, and I'll just tell you that, man, 1:51:26.920 --> 1:51:29.240 I was coming back to you, broa because I loved 1:51:29.320 --> 1:51:34.040 I love it, because we live such a beautiful life. 1:51:34.439 --> 1:51:39.080 I don't give a fuck. You know, what we've been through, 1:51:39.760 --> 1:51:43.320 like the fact that we're surviving and we're alive during 1:51:43.400 --> 1:51:47.920 this crazy times that we're going through. Is that's the 1:51:48.240 --> 1:51:51.880 what we should be spreading. And it's like, yo, positive energy. Man. 1:51:52.240 --> 1:51:53.800 Wherever you add in the world, I don't care if 1:51:53.840 --> 1:51:55.599 it's a rule, but I don't care if it's fucking 1:51:55.680 --> 1:51:58.760 left Rack, I don't care if it's Newport News. I 1:51:58.800 --> 1:52:01.160 don't care if it's fucking you know, wherever it is, 1:52:01.400 --> 1:52:04.439 Like we we should, we should. We gotta respect each 1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:07.720 other and just be happy to be with so many 1:52:07.760 --> 1:52:12.800 people that we lost just this year, these messages for 1:52:13.280 --> 1:52:17.920 years for nothing. That's why I've been like that. And 1:52:18.000 --> 1:52:21.040 I'm really like love bro thank you man, same to 1:52:21.120 --> 1:52:23.920 you and your family. And when I say that I 1:52:24.000 --> 1:52:27.920 hope he you know, hope you are able to Yeah, 1:52:28.560 --> 1:52:34.560 yeah he is, you know, you know. But let me 1:52:34.640 --> 1:52:38.280 just tell you from a super outsider like and y'all's 1:52:38.680 --> 1:52:42.840 and y'all solar system, I'm Pluto. That guy is all 1:52:42.880 --> 1:52:50.599 about you and and and he go on and for years, 1:52:50.840 --> 1:52:53.120 for years, it's always been when I talked to him, 1:52:53.200 --> 1:52:54.640 it's like here, it's such a y I'm gonna come 1:52:54.640 --> 1:52:57.559 down with my wife. It was like, I know when 1:52:57.600 --> 1:52:59.479 you entered his life. It was a very big difference 1:52:59.479 --> 1:53:02.960 because it was always whenever I talked to him, you 1:53:03.040 --> 1:53:05.200 were always in the equation. And that's a beautiful thing. 1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:13.360 And I'm so happy for you guys. Actually on some 1:53:13.520 --> 1:53:18.120 family ship every for the past couple of weeks. Thank 1:53:18.200 --> 1:53:20.120 you for doing the Grinch movie because I got two 1:53:20.200 --> 1:53:24.040 young kids, and every morning that's what we're watching and 1:53:24.120 --> 1:53:26.439 I can stand it because the music is amazing, the 1:53:26.560 --> 1:53:29.760 narration is amazing, So thank you for that contribution as well. 1:53:29.880 --> 1:53:33.679 With the parents and children, thank you, thank you, flossing 1:53:33.760 --> 1:53:37.559 you because this is a direct question from home. He said, 1:53:37.560 --> 1:53:39.720 I want all forty stories for him, get him high, 1:53:42.520 --> 1:53:45.720 which I'm not gonna do. I talked to him over 1:53:45.760 --> 1:53:53.120 producing Despicable Me. Wow, just funny ship that happened to him. Wow, 1:53:53.560 --> 1:53:55.040 I'm not gonna get you. I'm not gonna do that. 1:53:55.560 --> 1:53:59.800 But this is you know what, Sean Carter, I don't 1:53:59.840 --> 1:54:03.280 know dea I've involved you were, but now I get it. 1:54:05.680 --> 1:54:10.599 Get show Hester say, I get it because he's getting 1:54:10.600 --> 1:54:12.600 involved with everybody. When but when I like, I'm like, 1:54:12.920 --> 1:54:15.680 you know, he's been He's been there. He's a great guy. 1:54:15.840 --> 1:54:17.800 He's always been there. I remember, I remember when you 1:54:17.880 --> 1:54:20.400 guys were in the very beginning, when you guys first 1:54:20.400 --> 1:54:23.439 started clicking up whatever, and you had tasted Armadale for 1:54:23.520 --> 1:54:26.479 the first time. I hated it, and you were so 1:54:26.760 --> 1:54:32.960 vocal and I was always about I was so my 1:54:33.080 --> 1:54:39.240 haircut and put Armadale on me and I'm terrible. I 1:54:39.320 --> 1:54:42.920 loved them. I love no Helou was saying, by the way, 1:54:43.040 --> 1:54:45.400 by the way, he knows, I'm bringing it up because 1:54:45.520 --> 1:54:47.920 that was hated as much he's loved as much as 1:54:47.960 --> 1:54:51.200 he loved them. That always blew my mind, like damn, Like, yo, 1:54:51.280 --> 1:54:53.440 you're so honest about that ship. Well you didn't want 1:54:53.520 --> 1:54:55.760 to rock either. I'm always bringing that up. Hey man, 1:54:55.960 --> 1:55:01.960 you gotta relax. I was put I was affected from 1:55:02.080 --> 1:55:05.800 Armadale that never tasted a ski. I was bringing like 1:55:07.080 --> 1:55:10.640 it was I I was. I was like, you were 1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:12.960 the only one. Maybe you had a pink You had 1:55:13.000 --> 1:55:16.000 a pinky drink you remember with milk in it? Oh 1:55:16.120 --> 1:55:20.720 my god, I never shipped it. Crazy that much alcohol 1:55:20.760 --> 1:55:24.920 wheel you had to figure out. You don't remember cream? Yeah? Cream, 1:55:24.960 --> 1:55:29.000 it was cream based. Yeah, it was c Yeah, it was. 1:55:29.640 --> 1:55:32.640 It was like hell no, it was like, um, it 1:55:32.840 --> 1:55:38.320 was like imagine like a kulua, like a strawberry version 1:55:38.360 --> 1:55:42.960 of a kula even scared, but to do something to you, Yeah, 1:55:43.200 --> 1:55:46.040 I didn't understand. Then I went home. I was like, 1:55:46.080 --> 1:55:49.680 wait a minute. It was even I don't know what's 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:52.520 going on right now. But it was a beautiful thing 1:55:53.000 --> 1:55:59.480 at the time when you realized how much of never 1:55:59.560 --> 1:56:03.880 you are. Know, you're you're, You're super yo. In my book, 1:56:04.200 --> 1:56:08.320 you're my number one producer of all time. Listen, if 1:56:08.360 --> 1:56:10.560 I have one last album, which I would like for 1:56:10.680 --> 1:56:14.720 you to do. Listen if I had one last album 1:56:15.080 --> 1:56:17.440 to do, right the fuck it? I keep it real 1:56:17.760 --> 1:56:22.480 with the Lives album, I had one last song to do. Wow, 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:25.920 that's a lot. He just went from last twelve or 1:56:25.960 --> 1:56:31.080 eleven down to one the whole album, bro, that is, 1:56:31.560 --> 1:56:35.520 I'm gonna get me out of this somehow five songs 1:56:35.560 --> 1:56:42.440 or something. But you're gonna, as you know, in my 1:56:42.520 --> 1:56:44.920 schedule might be crazy because God is the greatest. God 1:56:45.000 --> 1:56:48.920 is the greatest. That was oxymaronic. But we're gonna let 1:56:48.960 --> 1:56:54.400 that go. Um, you're you know your your your credit 1:56:54.520 --> 1:56:57.720 is always good with me. Yes, yes, it's always good 1:56:57.760 --> 1:57:05.320 with me. And no, there's no I don't you don't 1:57:05.400 --> 1:57:08.120 talk to talk, there's no we're I'm talking about budgets 1:57:08.160 --> 1:57:12.000 and ship like that, like you know what you gave me. 1:57:15.000 --> 1:57:19.600 I realized what you feel like I gave you. But 1:57:19.720 --> 1:57:25.120 I okay, let me take this off. I realized what 1:57:25.240 --> 1:57:28.600 you feel like, you like like I gave you, and 1:57:28.760 --> 1:57:33.680 Chad has given you. Shut the chat chat Chad. He 1:57:33.880 --> 1:57:41.280 was a fucking savant genius of the highest order. Is 1:57:41.560 --> 1:57:44.800 I said, it is of the highest order. I will 1:57:44.960 --> 1:57:48.320 never behalf of the fucking musician that he is. A 1:57:48.440 --> 1:57:50.920 man can pick up an instrument leaving for two hours, 1:57:51.320 --> 1:57:54.200 and the motherfucker's playing on it like a like an 1:57:54.360 --> 1:58:00.440 ingenious improvisational you know, person who spent eight years on 1:58:00.480 --> 1:58:07.000 the instrument. That is Chad. Chad is a genius. But 1:58:08.600 --> 1:58:10.760 I realized what you feel like we have given you, 1:58:11.000 --> 1:58:15.480 but you need to understand what you gave us. And 1:58:15.600 --> 1:58:20.640 that is at the time we had done I had wrote, 1:58:20.800 --> 1:58:24.720 I had written Teddy's verse rum Shaker. Then I had 1:58:24.800 --> 1:58:29.080 like a little small, really really ill fitted verse for 1:58:29.160 --> 1:58:31.720 an f w V remix that didn't get used, but 1:58:31.800 --> 1:58:33.680 they chopped up part of my verse to use that 1:58:33.840 --> 1:58:37.200 that's that's double double double V that went into right 1:58:37.280 --> 1:58:41.440 here to Teddy Riley remix. Then we did Tonights Tonight. 1:58:45.440 --> 1:58:49.440 Then we did looking at Me, Looking at You're looking 1:58:49.480 --> 1:58:54.480 at me right, and then we did Super Thug. Super 1:58:54.600 --> 1:59:00.960 Thug made every hard rapper at the time look at 1:59:01.040 --> 1:59:04.000 us very differently. At the time, we had did Tonights 1:59:04.000 --> 1:59:05.640 Tonight for s w V, and that was like the 1:59:05.680 --> 1:59:09.240 biggest thing we had done, with the exception of uh 1:59:09.440 --> 1:59:12.640 and I'm somewhat as produces. With the exception of Tonight Tonight. 1:59:13.800 --> 1:59:18.280 It made people who had heard about us look at 1:59:18.360 --> 1:59:22.440 us very differently. Why because we worked with a hard rapper. No, 1:59:24.360 --> 1:59:29.160 because we worked with a hard character. You need to 1:59:29.280 --> 1:59:32.560 understand the difference. There's a hard rapper and then there's 1:59:32.560 --> 1:59:36.760 a hard character, a hard rapper cool until the way 1:59:36.840 --> 1:59:39.520 you rap goes out of style. But because you were 1:59:39.600 --> 1:59:42.880 a hard character, you were more than just a rapper. 1:59:43.320 --> 1:59:45.360 You were able to do super thug. We then did 1:59:45.440 --> 1:59:48.640 oh no, like you went on to do great things. 1:59:49.000 --> 1:59:53.720 And we are sitting here where everybody in this room 1:59:53.760 --> 1:59:57.640 to feel me, we're sitting here in you show me. 1:59:58.520 --> 2:00:01.880 You show me your contemporary. You showed me your peers 2:00:02.320 --> 2:00:04.480 that came out when you came out. You show me 2:00:04.600 --> 2:00:06.560 what they're doing now. And we love them and we 2:00:06.720 --> 2:00:09.520 respect them, and we hold them to the highest esteem. 2:00:09.800 --> 2:00:11.400 And there's so many of them that I could get 2:00:11.440 --> 2:00:15.160 into the greatest knockdown dragouts about who had the best 2:00:15.200 --> 2:00:18.360 fucking clue mix tapes from that era. But you show me, 2:00:20.520 --> 2:00:23.440 You show me who has jay Z sending them fucking questions? 2:00:31.040 --> 2:00:38.080 You got me? Well, you show me, right, that's all 2:00:38.200 --> 2:00:41.320 that's our big brother. He's a billionaire, like he's really 2:00:41.560 --> 2:00:44.880 really yeah, but yeah, to help him get to that 2:00:45.000 --> 2:00:51.440 billy right, right, you show me, you show me. I 2:00:51.480 --> 2:00:57.520 don't think you can. You know, podcast charting not like 2:00:57.800 --> 2:01:02.320 podcast podcast, I'm sorry, charting podcast very different. We invented 2:01:02.400 --> 2:01:04.920 like rappers doing podcasts and making it cool. But you 2:01:05.040 --> 2:01:09.200 got your own podcast, let's past network. What is it called? 2:01:09.280 --> 2:01:13.000 The other? Ours? Yours because you had ours, this other tone, 2:01:13.160 --> 2:01:14.840 the other tone because you had you had an Apple 2:01:14.960 --> 2:01:18.160 show at first. Yeah. Well, what's his name? Broke Scott 2:01:18.200 --> 2:01:21.760 Scott Viner, Yeah right, and that's the guy he had 2:01:21.920 --> 2:01:24.960 something to do with entourage, right, yeah, yeah, And I 2:01:25.720 --> 2:01:27.360 wanted to do it because I knew that he was 2:01:27.720 --> 2:01:34.320 much more equipped with like discerning what is the right 2:01:34.360 --> 2:01:36.520 ship that should be on there? You know what I'm 2:01:36.520 --> 2:01:38.440 saying that I wanted him to have a platform because 2:01:38.440 --> 2:01:41.000 I've always thought that he was a genius um and 2:01:41.080 --> 2:01:44.760 I really do believe that. And then you know the 2:01:44.840 --> 2:01:48.480 cool thing is this is him and this next turnaround, 2:01:48.560 --> 2:01:55.200 it's it's him, myself, our brother family, right, family too, 2:01:55.280 --> 2:02:00.520 I'm talking about I'm talking about and he just warming up. 2:02:00.600 --> 2:02:02.240 He just warming up to get ready for his own 2:02:02.280 --> 2:02:13.360 ship um as well. But again, like it's been great man, 2:02:14.000 --> 2:02:17.000 and and and when you think back to the fact 2:02:17.040 --> 2:02:20.440 that you were early on it. First, my wife canna 2:02:20.520 --> 2:02:22.360 kill me with all this footage with my mask off, 2:02:24.120 --> 2:02:26.840 but you know what, I just needed you to see 2:02:26.880 --> 2:02:29.280 my face I wanted you to really see my face 2:02:29.360 --> 2:02:33.040 and hear me. Yo, you're a different guy, bro, You're different. 2:02:33.080 --> 2:02:37.320 And we've had our ups, we've had our downs, we've 2:02:37.400 --> 2:02:42.680 had our rounds. And what you did for Chad and 2:02:42.800 --> 2:02:47.280 I and essentially everybody that I worked with, you lifted 2:02:47.360 --> 2:02:50.400 us to a different kind of place. You should know 2:02:50.520 --> 2:02:54.960 that like you lifted us to a a different, different, 2:02:55.200 --> 2:02:59.720 different place. And the crazy thing is the entire time 2:03:01.080 --> 2:03:05.840 beyond it all. I would say the number one characteristic 2:03:06.920 --> 2:03:10.160 of our bond and our report is that you would 2:03:10.200 --> 2:03:13.880 trust me when I say, yo, listen to me. I 2:03:13.880 --> 2:03:16.040 would shut the funk up every time I would say, yo, 2:03:16.200 --> 2:03:19.160 just trust me, listen to me. And you moment I 2:03:19.280 --> 2:03:21.680 met you, that was the first word you said to me. 2:03:21.840 --> 2:03:24.560 You said, trust me, You're gonna go number one. And 2:03:24.640 --> 2:03:27.160 I don't know why, I just I just I just 2:03:27.400 --> 2:03:30.240 always remember that moment was a sound on sound. I 2:03:30.320 --> 2:03:32.360 could listen if we go to sound, so I could 2:03:32.400 --> 2:03:35.960 tell you the exact space we was at. I could 2:03:35.960 --> 2:03:37.320 be like you, look, you were right here. I was 2:03:37.400 --> 2:03:40.200 right here, and you know what I was never wrong? 2:03:40.960 --> 2:03:47.360 You will you guess what you were never wrong? So 2:03:48.000 --> 2:03:52.080 you know, do sometimes compare us to Snoop in like, oh, 2:03:52.960 --> 2:03:58.480 bro bro, super Thug, Man, Yo, do you understand super Thug? 2:03:58.760 --> 2:04:02.000 Do you understand my brother Iverson went to jail right 2:04:02.040 --> 2:04:05.960 around that time because of the chair throwing in the 2:04:06.120 --> 2:04:13.000 chair back. If I'm not wrong, the night that our 2:04:13.080 --> 2:04:16.600 brother Iverson went to jail, wasn't that the night that 2:04:16.680 --> 2:04:18.800 you guys were in the club at the bowling Alley? 2:04:20.000 --> 2:04:21.960 Was this in Hampton or Norfolk? This is all for 2:04:22.080 --> 2:04:29.800 Princess and Road. Look, okay, I remember my brother who 2:04:29.920 --> 2:04:33.920 was managing him at the time. Somebody hit him over 2:04:34.040 --> 2:04:39.600 the back with a chair and they hit him so 2:04:39.760 --> 2:04:45.480 hard that he said he started speaking to two different people. 2:04:45.520 --> 2:04:52.600 He said, I'm making this up like Billy, because that's 2:04:52.600 --> 2:04:54.240 the story he told me when he got hit with 2:04:54.320 --> 2:04:57.400 that chair. It was a different night, but that's what 2:04:57.560 --> 2:05:00.960 super Thug was doing the people. As my point, Fam 2:05:01.080 --> 2:05:03.240 is correct. That was a different night, but that's what 2:05:03.880 --> 2:05:06.640 that's what Super Thug was doing to people. And Rob 2:05:06.880 --> 2:05:10.160 Walker was calling me from New York like, Yo, Yo, 2:05:10.280 --> 2:05:13.320 do you understand what this song? One of y'all gonna 2:05:13.320 --> 2:05:18.560 record this for me and give me that sound. Somebody 2:05:19.040 --> 2:05:26.920 is gonna give me that sound, and it just was 2:05:27.000 --> 2:05:30.920 a different time, bro, Like that record changed the mentality 2:05:30.960 --> 2:05:34.880 of how people were thinking. And another forget Chris was like, man, 2:05:35.040 --> 2:05:37.880 you know, I remember when you're coming wrapping in my 2:05:38.040 --> 2:05:41.680 office and like we went and signed, y'all. He was 2:05:41.800 --> 2:05:46.120 like he felt differently about it then, and he was 2:05:46.760 --> 2:05:51.360 chrisly was a genius. Love to Chris Lighty and his 2:05:51.520 --> 2:05:55.720 children and his spirit wherever it is right now in 2:05:55.840 --> 2:05:59.800 the universe, because if it ever existed, it still exists. 2:06:00.080 --> 2:06:02.600 Where just because you can't hear it don't mean it 2:06:02.640 --> 2:06:06.160 don't exist. It's here and it might talk to some people. 2:06:06.880 --> 2:06:09.320 You know what I'm saying. Chris Lidy is here. And 2:06:09.440 --> 2:06:15.480 Chris Man, you had the most amazing vision, the idea 2:06:15.560 --> 2:06:18.840 that you were able to see into Cameron and see 2:06:18.960 --> 2:06:22.360 into Noriega, and see into Missy and see into Buster 2:06:22.480 --> 2:06:25.680 and see into q Tip. Y'all understand that this man 2:06:25.840 --> 2:06:30.760 was just going, Oh, you're like us. You're your violator, 2:06:31.160 --> 2:06:36.200 your violator, your violator, and your violator and your violator. 2:06:37.920 --> 2:06:44.320 Chris Lity had the fucking vision, Broa Like, I'm sorry, 2:06:44.400 --> 2:06:46.240 I just had to just take a moment just for him. 2:06:46.760 --> 2:06:51.600 And the Purple Rain is kicked in and it's and 2:06:51.640 --> 2:06:59.640 it's this is how happens. And by the way, no disrespect, 2:06:59.680 --> 2:07:02.480 but it's Swan, right, it's not like that. We're not 2:07:02.600 --> 2:07:04.760 I'm not from New York, so that's not me like 2:07:04.840 --> 2:07:08.839 with the New York Act saying saying swine swan. It's swan. 2:07:09.440 --> 2:07:12.760 It's here in Miami. It's me and Dave Groutman and 2:07:12.880 --> 2:07:14.920 purple rain is one of our drinks. Right away, did 2:07:14.960 --> 2:07:17.120 you realize Tony Tony Tony was this in New York 2:07:17.240 --> 2:07:21.240 from back in the days to New York from back 2:07:21.240 --> 2:07:27.160 in the day and never fains and south thank Calforn. Yeah, 2:07:27.560 --> 2:07:30.920 he said it may be cold on the East Coast 2:07:31.760 --> 2:07:39.600 on the other side of town. You never noticed that 2:07:40.680 --> 2:07:45.840 Tony Tony is a foul people. Raphael City doesn't strike 2:07:45.920 --> 2:07:49.840 me that. I'm gonna tell you why, Okay, because I 2:07:49.920 --> 2:07:54.000 was gonna say, because he's like our weather conditions. But 2:07:54.120 --> 2:07:55.880 you never saying he said East coast. He just say 2:07:55.920 --> 2:07:58.080 in New York. He could have been Boston. Yeah, but 2:07:58.200 --> 2:08:01.480 you just just you just to turn the tri state 2:08:01.520 --> 2:08:05.280 areas just the East coast. Just determined that earlier about 2:08:05.360 --> 2:08:10.440 thirteen minutes he was circumstantial minutes. Look, I don't know 2:08:10.600 --> 2:08:13.040 that rafaels the deep mean that just because Rafael is 2:08:13.080 --> 2:08:15.160 such a loving guy and him and Q Tip are 2:08:15.240 --> 2:08:19.280 so fucking close. In D'Angelo, who was also from Virginia, Richmond, Virginia, 2:08:20.280 --> 2:08:25.160 he loved he loves those guys so much. I can't imagine. 2:08:25.560 --> 2:08:27.560 All right, God that let's make some Luis. I'll keep 2:08:27.560 --> 2:08:35.480 it in Fox. So this is really nice, man Madonna, Yes, sir, 2:08:37.000 --> 2:08:42.600 where are you at? Madonna calls you. He says, I 2:08:42.680 --> 2:08:45.760 want you to be Tiger King. Did you say I 2:08:45.840 --> 2:08:47.320 want you to be Tiger King? I don't know. I 2:08:47.360 --> 2:08:51.920 don't know why, you know, I don't know why I 2:08:52.000 --> 2:08:58.440 thought that. Let it wants you to be the king 2:08:58.520 --> 2:09:09.400 from Flix. No mcdonna call. No, he was too wild 2:09:16.000 --> 2:09:22.240 because you had the Michael Jackson call first. Right, So 2:09:22.320 --> 2:09:25.840 when did you get the mcdonna call? The Madonna call 2:09:26.120 --> 2:09:31.560 was definitely in the two thousands. Um, I want to say, 2:09:31.600 --> 2:09:35.120 I was still working at the Marlin at time. Does 2:09:35.160 --> 2:09:47.080 he already have black children? I'm asking? No, this is real, yeah, serious, Yeah, 2:09:47.200 --> 2:09:54.280 she had children already? She had black children? UM? Bad? 2:09:54.800 --> 2:09:58.880 Those weird, But I gotta ask because I just want 2:09:58.920 --> 2:10:02.120 you to know so super clear. How you do this ship? 2:10:05.440 --> 2:10:11.040 Super clear? The real questions coming on in the fourth quarter, 2:10:13.680 --> 2:10:25.480 ye jay z No, some Madonna calls you. Oh yeah, 2:10:25.520 --> 2:10:36.200 this is real. Madonna calls and she's like, yo, let's 2:10:36.640 --> 2:10:40.000 get together. And I'm like, okay, she's aggressive. I feel 2:10:40.000 --> 2:10:44.160 like mcdonna's aggressive. She's aggressive, she's aggressive, she's outpul female. 2:10:44.200 --> 2:10:49.840 I just feel like that she's aggressive. Um he's like, 2:10:49.960 --> 2:10:52.520 I wanna let's make some music. I love what you 2:10:52.600 --> 2:10:57.160 guys do. And it's cool. So we we you know, 2:10:57.240 --> 2:11:01.240 I'm going back between Florida, my in me and um 2:11:05.640 --> 2:11:11.480 London and we work on Hard Candy h And that 2:11:11.680 --> 2:11:14.880 was cool and it was It's interesting because she worked 2:11:14.960 --> 2:11:18.960 with me and then also she had a conversation with 2:11:19.080 --> 2:11:22.120 Tim too, and Tim knew her too because he knew 2:11:22.160 --> 2:11:24.480 her from before when he was with with DeVante and 2:11:24.520 --> 2:11:27.280 DeVante had worked on her album, so they knew each other. 2:11:28.320 --> 2:11:31.280 So excuse me. So when we went in and like 2:11:32.000 --> 2:11:34.680 we just did a bunch of records, it's interesting because 2:11:37.360 --> 2:11:39.880 one record that we did call on and On, we 2:11:39.960 --> 2:11:43.879 put Kanye on this early in his career with Madonna 2:11:44.760 --> 2:11:47.680 looking listening On and On, He's on that record, his 2:11:47.840 --> 2:11:51.760 mama came to the studio and literally, like I want 2:11:51.800 --> 2:11:53.879 to say, a little while after that when she passed. 2:11:54.560 --> 2:11:56.600 It's crazy. That was last time I saw her. She 2:11:56.680 --> 2:12:04.560 came to the session with Madonnald's bless Yeah. Absolutely, sorry 2:12:04.800 --> 2:12:12.440 to take my trains out. Um, that was a crazy time. Donna. Yeah, 2:12:13.920 --> 2:12:17.400 what did you do with Madonna? So? Look, you have Madonna, Prince, 2:12:17.840 --> 2:12:20.640 Michael Jackson, who else from the eighties? Did you the 2:12:21.040 --> 2:12:25.120 biggest artist in the world. Yeah? I ain't gonna lie. 2:12:25.120 --> 2:12:27.920 I'm gonna be honest. If you actually retire right now, 2:12:28.240 --> 2:12:29.840 no one will be mad at you because I feel 2:12:29.840 --> 2:12:32.160 like you worked with everybody. Is this somebody you didn't 2:12:32.200 --> 2:12:36.200 work with that you wanted to work with? I don't know, man. 2:12:36.280 --> 2:12:38.040 People asked me that, They've been asked me that for 2:12:38.080 --> 2:12:41.640 about ten years. I love working you. So have you 2:12:41.720 --> 2:12:44.640 worked with everyone on your wish list? Is your wish 2:12:44.680 --> 2:12:50.040 list complete? Nah? Who? Who? Who? Don't tell me Gucci bad? 2:12:51.200 --> 2:12:57.080 We work with Gucci, I work with Goodier. Do somebody 2:12:57.160 --> 2:12:59.920 you want to work with you haven't worked with? That's 2:13:00.120 --> 2:13:08.480 live pretty much everybody I've wanted to work with. We 2:13:08.600 --> 2:13:12.640 always end up finding our way working together, not one soul. 2:13:16.320 --> 2:13:22.080 Older people, those are the ones that say no, they shady. 2:13:22.160 --> 2:13:25.320 We were able to do a remix for Prince. We 2:13:25.360 --> 2:13:29.080 did a remix for he was gone already. No, we 2:13:29.200 --> 2:13:33.040 did the greatest romance ever been told, the greatest, greatest 2:13:33.080 --> 2:13:35.800 story that's ever been told, greatest romance. I'm sorry forgive 2:13:35.880 --> 2:13:44.760 me one of the two. Yeah, Prince Michael. I never 2:13:44.840 --> 2:13:50.440 worked with Michael. Michael was amazing. Though. Michael called a 2:13:50.480 --> 2:13:53.480 couple of times. Yeah. One time you and Justin was 2:13:53.560 --> 2:13:56.240 in the studio again, Yeah, and he called when you 2:13:56.360 --> 2:13:58.960 was justin st Yeah, and he's eating popcorners. He was 2:13:59.000 --> 2:14:01.400 eating popcorn in my She was crazy. I was like, 2:14:01.880 --> 2:14:03.800 That's when I knew it was him. I was like, 2:14:04.640 --> 2:14:07.760 this is because that's his normal to eat popcorn. You 2:14:07.920 --> 2:14:09.680 call you over and over and over again and then 2:14:09.760 --> 2:14:14.000 start eating popcorn. I was like, I'm thinking of Thriller 2:14:14.040 --> 2:14:17.720 when he's watching the movie he's I'm like, Yo, this 2:14:17.880 --> 2:14:25.680 is definitely definitely him. And what was he And he 2:14:25.800 --> 2:14:30.160 was in the studio with Justice. Yeah, in the studio 2:14:30.240 --> 2:14:32.760 with Justin. And this is another story that I read 2:14:32.880 --> 2:14:37.520 that was very At some point, Clips was on job, 2:14:40.080 --> 2:14:47.480 Justin was on Jove Clips called beef with Job and 2:14:47.640 --> 2:14:50.520 you chose not to work with Justice because he was 2:14:50.600 --> 2:14:54.680 on job? What was because you know, I imagine you 2:14:54.760 --> 2:14:58.840 guys are friends. What's that conversation like? What is that like? 2:14:59.040 --> 2:15:02.560 Like you know, I don't know, it's getting a little deep, 2:15:02.600 --> 2:15:06.720 but you know, I chose what you chose not to 2:15:06.800 --> 2:15:12.320 work with Justin because because honestly, it was the advice 2:15:12.400 --> 2:15:15.880 that I was given, and Justin took that super personal 2:15:16.440 --> 2:15:25.000 legal advice. I plead the fifth Okay, so whatever, But 2:15:25.080 --> 2:15:28.440 now that's when I don't snitch. But I will say 2:15:28.480 --> 2:15:37.120 that my my the advice seal out there. Bro, Yeah, 2:15:37.280 --> 2:15:40.240 my team and advised not to do that, not to 2:15:40.320 --> 2:15:43.640 continue to work with Justice. Just no, no, just to say, Job, 2:15:43.800 --> 2:15:47.400 I can't work on anything that y'all have because I 2:15:47.480 --> 2:15:49.800 need you all to do right by the clips. But 2:15:49.960 --> 2:15:51.920 that's not how they told it to Justin and and 2:15:52.120 --> 2:15:54.760 and he was very disappointed by that because he would 2:15:54.800 --> 2:15:57.200 have understood that had it been explained a certain ways. Yeah, 2:15:57.280 --> 2:15:59.560 but then you know, I just give the advice was 2:15:59.640 --> 2:16:02.000 bad and the execution was bad. And I had to 2:16:02.120 --> 2:16:04.680 bribe with that because I didn't think that all the 2:16:04.760 --> 2:16:06.640 way through to be like, no, you're all wrong about this. 2:16:06.960 --> 2:16:10.120 We this is not excuse me, this is not Wow, 2:16:10.520 --> 2:16:13.440 I'm twisted. This is not how we should do this. 2:16:13.640 --> 2:16:15.840 We should explain this to him so he can be 2:16:15.960 --> 2:16:19.960 in choreography with us, you know. And I regret that 2:16:20.080 --> 2:16:24.200 because still to this day it's like, I mean, we 2:16:24.280 --> 2:16:26.920 talked about it, but still to this day, it's one 2:16:26.960 --> 2:16:28.480 of those things that I look at and go, Damn. 2:16:29.080 --> 2:16:31.760 If I were the person that I am now, I 2:16:31.800 --> 2:16:35.240 would have totally told my younger self, Yo, don't do that. 2:16:35.400 --> 2:16:38.280 That's just that's not right, Like that's your that's that's 2:16:38.440 --> 2:16:42.560 that's your team thinking shortsighted. They thinking zoomed, and they're 2:16:42.560 --> 2:16:45.840 not thinking zoomed out. Because at the end of the day, 2:16:45.959 --> 2:16:48.600 as a producer, you could have said, yo, let me 2:16:48.640 --> 2:16:51.640 still get this money on the side. So what what 2:16:51.800 --> 2:16:53.480 made you take that stance and say, you know what, 2:16:53.560 --> 2:16:57.680 I'm gonna stay. I mean, I know you kind of 2:16:57.720 --> 2:16:59.240 explained that, but I just want to get it the 2:17:00.080 --> 2:17:02.000 artist friends, because you know, you could have been like 2:17:02.120 --> 2:17:05.000 yr Clips, Yo, listen, I get it, that's y'all beef 2:17:05.040 --> 2:17:08.320 with job. But you know I got this whole justin 2:17:08.680 --> 2:17:13.360 these were my brothers, you know, and Justin as my 2:17:13.440 --> 2:17:16.520 brother and as far as I was concerned, and the 2:17:16.600 --> 2:17:18.600 way it was explained to me, which made sense at 2:17:18.640 --> 2:17:21.560 the time, like he would get it, he'd be okay 2:17:21.600 --> 2:17:23.360 if we just needed to delay a couple of months 2:17:23.400 --> 2:17:25.440 for the record label to do the right thing. When 2:17:25.480 --> 2:17:27.720 you said he would he would get you too much, Justin. Yeah, 2:17:28.160 --> 2:17:31.120 but he didn't get it because we never gave together. 2:17:31.280 --> 2:17:34.600 We could have strategized better and would have been he 2:17:34.640 --> 2:17:37.760 would have been, but that's not what happened, you know. 2:17:37.879 --> 2:17:39.920 And they told him, Yo, this guy doesn't care about you, 2:17:41.040 --> 2:17:42.440 you know, and they turned him against me. And it 2:17:42.480 --> 2:17:46.320 took a minute how long you're talking about two year period? 2:17:46.959 --> 2:17:49.840 It was different. We had a very um, you know, 2:17:49.959 --> 2:17:55.320 we had a very uh. It was very strenuous, and 2:17:55.400 --> 2:17:57.760 he was being made to convince that like I felt 2:17:57.840 --> 2:18:01.360 like I was more than what I was to him. 2:18:02.240 --> 2:18:06.000 And really all justin Justin was a friend to me, 2:18:06.520 --> 2:18:09.000 and I was a friend to him, and you know, 2:18:09.080 --> 2:18:10.880 when he was going through tough times, I was there 2:18:10.959 --> 2:18:12.880 for him, and when I was going through tough times, 2:18:13.080 --> 2:18:16.680 he was there for me. But they but they they 2:18:16.840 --> 2:18:21.199 vilified me to him. And when you're young, and even 2:18:21.720 --> 2:18:26.240 you know, everything essentially goes right for you, and something 2:18:26.320 --> 2:18:28.560 goes left, and there's a person that you've known for 2:18:28.640 --> 2:18:31.360 a minute and they go and it seems like they're 2:18:31.360 --> 2:18:33.120 going left on you. You're gonna feel a certain kind 2:18:33.120 --> 2:18:35.720 of way. I understood that they painted a picture a 2:18:35.760 --> 2:18:38.520 certain kind of way. He didn't really understand that I 2:18:38.680 --> 2:18:40.880 was just trying to stand in solidarity with my brothers, 2:18:40.920 --> 2:18:42.480 and I should have brought him along with me on 2:18:42.560 --> 2:18:45.280 that journey. He actually could have helped us change that narrative. 2:18:46.080 --> 2:18:49.040 But the advice that I was given, I trusted to 2:18:49.120 --> 2:18:52.240 stay away from job period and not cut him off. 2:18:52.600 --> 2:18:54.760 Not cut him off, but just like, no, I can't 2:18:54.800 --> 2:18:57.000 work on nothing for you all right now? But what 2:18:57.080 --> 2:18:58.880 about justin? He's not your brother. And then they went 2:18:58.959 --> 2:19:04.480 back and took my words and it's like no, they 2:19:04.560 --> 2:19:06.520 went back and just took my words to the you know, 2:19:06.640 --> 2:19:09.440 it just totally blew it out to him, and he 2:19:09.520 --> 2:19:12.280 and I talked eventually, and that's when I explained to him, like, no, listen, 2:19:12.320 --> 2:19:14.040 this is what I was trying to do, but I 2:19:14.120 --> 2:19:16.440 should have involved you. That was my mistake because I 2:19:16.480 --> 2:19:22.000 didn't think holistically. My greatest fault in this lifetime is 2:19:22.040 --> 2:19:28.680 it sometimes I'm too zoomed in. M meaning like, sometimes 2:19:28.760 --> 2:19:34.440 I'm just sometimes I'm just too zoomed in, and sometimes 2:19:34.480 --> 2:19:37.160 I need to zoom out. Sometimes we all need a 2:19:37.200 --> 2:19:39.240 zoom out. Sometimes we're just thinking about what we're going 2:19:39.280 --> 2:19:41.720 through and what what we need, And even if it's 2:19:41.800 --> 2:19:44.520 for somebody else, it's still too zoomed in. You got 2:19:45.800 --> 2:19:49.879 you gotta m out, you gotta zoom out. You gotta 2:19:49.920 --> 2:19:52.560 have a bigger picture of things. Make sure you guys 2:19:52.600 --> 2:20:01.920 can hear me when I say that. Man, this is great. 2:20:03.440 --> 2:20:05.880 I'm gonna puol me some more US space anybody wants. 2:20:07.240 --> 2:20:14.840 You're giving it out the first yet better drinking space 2:20:14.959 --> 2:20:22.080 right now, because you know why, Man, this is the 2:20:22.160 --> 2:20:29.840 best producer of all fucking times in my in my life. Um, 2:20:30.240 --> 2:20:36.200 you know I was. I don't want to say a 2:20:36.280 --> 2:20:38.560 local wrapper because I want to say the War Report 2:20:38.720 --> 2:20:41.200 is a classic? What do you mean you want to say? 2:20:41.600 --> 2:20:43.440 Are you saying? Are you taking it? I want a 2:20:43.480 --> 2:20:46.680 ship of that. Yeah, you know it's zoomed out. It's 2:20:46.680 --> 2:20:49.440 a classic. Now we all understand that. But maybe when 2:20:49.480 --> 2:20:53.120 you was in that moment, you didn't know, and like 2:20:53.240 --> 2:20:55.560 I said, when I met this man that was right 2:20:55.640 --> 2:20:57.640 here to my left of me, and he said, man 2:20:58.959 --> 2:21:05.920 listened to me, and I listened to you, and my 2:21:06.040 --> 2:21:09.200 life has never been the same since. And you know, 2:21:09.360 --> 2:21:12.120 I know, I'm glad what you're saying to me, but 2:21:12.200 --> 2:21:14.160 I want to give you your flowers while you're here 2:21:14.320 --> 2:21:20.080 because it changed my life because it was a different sound, 2:21:20.200 --> 2:21:22.840 just like Band from TV was a different sound. Like 2:21:22.920 --> 2:21:26.360 when Band from TV dropped, people were sitting around like 2:21:26.720 --> 2:21:29.560 that's what ship is not I give it even better. 2:21:29.640 --> 2:21:33.520 I'll give you even better example forever. And this is 2:21:33.600 --> 2:21:40.440 my friend, Um, Big Tiger, thank you, bro, take it 2:21:40.480 --> 2:21:42.600 from the basement. Yeah, you know what he said to 2:21:42.680 --> 2:21:44.840 me after old old drop And I swear to God, 2:21:45.240 --> 2:21:48.879 this is on my father's life. Big Ticket says, stopped 2:21:48.879 --> 2:21:51.960 working with the Neptunes. All that ships sound the same. 2:21:56.560 --> 2:22:01.000 I will never say this. Um, Then you do you 2:22:01.160 --> 2:22:05.440 understand who Big Tigger was at this moment. And he 2:22:05.640 --> 2:22:09.160 sat there and I had I had super dog that 2:22:09.280 --> 2:22:14.160 I had. Oh no, he was in control of the 2:22:14.400 --> 2:22:18.200 biggest fucking hip hop station at the time. He pulled 2:22:18.240 --> 2:22:22.360 me to the side, stopped working with the Neptunes. I 2:22:22.480 --> 2:22:25.320 looked at him I wanted to do. I don't this 2:22:25.480 --> 2:22:32.840 is the old nor what I said to myself. I'm 2:22:32.879 --> 2:22:36.600 all right, I know where this is gonna go. And 2:22:36.840 --> 2:22:39.920 I'm sorry. I've never revealed this story ever in my life, 2:22:42.200 --> 2:22:46.320 so as a woman. But said there was there was there. 2:22:46.720 --> 2:22:50.640 I want to just say this. I mean, you didn't 2:22:50.640 --> 2:22:53.000 asked me. It wasn't the thing that was that warranted 2:22:53.040 --> 2:22:57.600 a response. It was just like interesting information. But I 2:22:57.720 --> 2:23:02.800 want to say to him, listen, love, brother, you know 2:23:02.920 --> 2:23:05.960 that's what you felt at the time. That's what you felt. 2:23:06.959 --> 2:23:10.440 And you know what, at that time I might have sounded, 2:23:10.520 --> 2:23:13.800 we might have sounded like everything that we did was repetitious. 2:23:14.480 --> 2:23:17.160 And I knew I needed to grow beyond that. And 2:23:17.320 --> 2:23:21.240 you know what, I'm grateful. I'm grateful that he felt 2:23:21.280 --> 2:23:24.480 the same thing we might have felt of our excuse me, 2:23:24.840 --> 2:23:26.960 that we might have felt at the time. And I 2:23:27.000 --> 2:23:32.840 appreciate your loyalty and I appreciate his loyalty to the game. Uh, 2:23:33.560 --> 2:23:35.640 none of us are mad. He is somewhere doing what 2:23:35.800 --> 2:23:39.600 he's doing and being the very greatest everybody's doing. You're 2:23:39.840 --> 2:23:42.640 you're at the greatest height of what you're doing. And 2:23:42.840 --> 2:23:46.400 I am still just saying thank you God, but really 2:23:46.440 --> 2:23:49.360 quick to piggyback of all this as a DJ, though 2:23:49.640 --> 2:23:54.320 originally I could hear the same sounds, but I started 2:23:54.320 --> 2:23:58.000 to say, this is genius because you could these records 2:23:58.040 --> 2:24:01.160 seamlessly going to each other and then be the whole 2:24:01.240 --> 2:24:04.240 sound right right, but then even going even further coming 2:24:04.320 --> 2:24:07.400 you know, out of Miami and the Caribbean being very 2:24:07.480 --> 2:24:10.360 influential too, what we do. I'm looking at dance all 2:24:10.440 --> 2:24:14.240 and how the rhythms all it's the same rhythmic yeah, yeah, 2:24:14.480 --> 2:24:16.280 So was there any thought like that to what you 2:24:16.320 --> 2:24:18.400 guys were doing? So I fell in love with the 2:24:18.440 --> 2:24:24.760 clap of chord because it could be as radical as 2:24:25.360 --> 2:24:31.160 a guitar riff from like led Zeppelin or Metallica, and 2:24:31.480 --> 2:24:39.920 it could also be as rhythmic as um, you know, 2:24:40.120 --> 2:24:46.040 more technical music, and so we were very loyal to 2:24:46.160 --> 2:24:52.680 that for a while. Um and I think, and I 2:24:52.720 --> 2:24:55.320 could be wrong, but I did. The very first time 2:24:55.360 --> 2:24:57.360 we ever used a clap chord was on Super though, 2:24:58.680 --> 2:25:01.480 so when you're do dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. 2:25:01.720 --> 2:25:04.960 And then after that we were given the remix to 2:25:05.120 --> 2:25:08.880 the Backstreet Boys record, and then we were giving the remix, 2:25:09.920 --> 2:25:16.879 Oh yeah, superb Man, and then we were given um, 2:25:17.200 --> 2:25:20.400 then we were given the remix to a Locks record 2:25:21.120 --> 2:25:24.120 h and then it just it's just that's when the 2:25:24.200 --> 2:25:28.160 Neptune sound. But it started with super Thub because if 2:25:28.240 --> 2:25:31.920 you listen to uh when This Feeling by STBUV or 2:25:31.959 --> 2:25:42.520 you listen to um uh um use your Heart by STV, 2:25:42.640 --> 2:25:44.680 which was the bigger song because that was a single, 2:25:45.560 --> 2:25:47.960 it didn't have that particular sound. If you listen to 2:25:48.000 --> 2:25:50.840 it tonight tonight, it didn't have that particular sound either. 2:25:51.760 --> 2:25:56.760 We developed our sound after we've made super Thub, but 2:25:56.920 --> 2:25:59.840 you guys consciously say, well, this is our signature sound. Now, 2:26:00.240 --> 2:26:02.440 we never said it. We just kept going back to 2:26:02.520 --> 2:26:05.720 what felt good. And that's like a thing for me, 2:26:06.680 --> 2:26:09.000 like I might not like some people are so good 2:26:09.120 --> 2:26:12.119 at what they do that they make a declaration. I've 2:26:12.160 --> 2:26:13.720 never been good at that, and every time I make 2:26:13.760 --> 2:26:16.520 a declaration, I'm wrong. So I've learned to not make 2:26:16.560 --> 2:26:22.920 a declaration and just continue to declare my action. And 2:26:23.000 --> 2:26:26.600 that clavichord that's what gave us that which is not 2:26:26.800 --> 2:26:29.280 new because like for example, like Premiere, you knew what 2:26:29.400 --> 2:26:31.880 a Premiere beat sounding. It was the sounds of it 2:26:33.000 --> 2:26:40.000 premier but celebrated enough. But let me just say I 2:26:40.120 --> 2:26:46.160 gotta say this, that Neptune Run is nothing like Listen, 2:26:46.240 --> 2:26:48.160 I'm because I got to be honest. What would you 2:26:48.200 --> 2:26:52.720 say that the Neptune Run when after after oh no, 2:26:53.040 --> 2:26:56.680 after that, No, there was entire mixed shows of just 2:26:57.520 --> 2:27:01.000 Neptune record. People still send me faking up tune beats. 2:27:01.040 --> 2:27:05.600 I love it. Let me, Oh my god, I can't. 2:27:06.840 --> 2:27:12.680 I know the guy, but what do you understand? Like, 2:27:13.560 --> 2:27:16.439 I'm gonna be honest, it's It's one of the proudest 2:27:16.720 --> 2:27:23.440 moments of my career, is because I had a chance 2:27:23.560 --> 2:27:28.560 to believe in you guys. And like I said, you 2:27:28.760 --> 2:27:32.680 you gave me the every baby you want me and 2:27:32.800 --> 2:27:35.120 I've brung it to Nas. Nas didn't get it. I 2:27:35.280 --> 2:27:38.840 forget what what for Jay? But we can leave that alone. 2:27:39.760 --> 2:27:44.520 But to see where you at, it's a beautiful thing 2:27:44.959 --> 2:27:53.480 for me. You understand nobody clear, Listen, listen, I'm gonna 2:27:53.520 --> 2:27:59.680 say this again. Please, good, bad and different up down 2:28:00.920 --> 2:28:16.800 around what we were you like were you y'all know 2:28:16.840 --> 2:28:21.000 what you're doing here too with this motherfucking we love 2:28:21.040 --> 2:28:24.840 and we're being family in here, like two minutes what 2:28:24.959 --> 2:28:26.840 y'all doing here. Y'all know what, y'all know what the 2:28:26.879 --> 2:28:29.640 funk you're doing. You have fun. This is definitely a 2:28:29.720 --> 2:28:33.640 formulator works. We have fun. And our big brother isn't 2:28:33.680 --> 2:28:38.480 just leaning in and sending them bottle for nothing. But 2:28:39.520 --> 2:28:45.480 oh shoot, I gotta finish my purple rain purple fill 2:28:45.520 --> 2:28:48.160 them up. I was filling them up. Holy Moly, guaka mole. 2:28:49.320 --> 2:28:52.240 You tell me what to stop Pete m h ship. 2:28:52.640 --> 2:28:55.480 Do you know what holy Moley is? Definitely don't so. 2:28:55.640 --> 2:29:00.040 Moley is this herb that was given to someone and 2:29:01.520 --> 2:29:10.160 back to stop him from being under a spell. Yeah, 2:29:10.360 --> 2:29:12.440 they were trying to like put him under a spell 2:29:13.240 --> 2:29:16.440 and they yeah, and they gave him this what was 2:29:16.480 --> 2:29:20.360 called moley m O M m O l y And 2:29:20.440 --> 2:29:23.160 that's why we say holy Moly to this day. But 2:29:23.400 --> 2:29:25.960 moley was was something that was given to him to 2:29:26.080 --> 2:29:30.640 keep him from not falling under the spell of over sorceress. 2:29:30.920 --> 2:29:34.240 Actually not meduced. It was a sorceress who turned all 2:29:34.480 --> 2:29:39.000 of uh, Okay, maybe I'm mixing this up. This was 2:29:39.080 --> 2:29:45.320 given to run you know, Odyssey, Odysseus am I saying 2:29:45.360 --> 2:29:49.119 it right? Okay, Well, so it was given to him 2:29:49.160 --> 2:29:53.000 to stop him from turning into a pig, like they 2:29:53.120 --> 2:29:55.960 turned the rest of his squad into um and he 2:29:56.120 --> 2:29:59.640 was able to like, you know, convince her to like 2:30:00.200 --> 2:30:03.280 take the spell off of his of his guys and 2:30:03.560 --> 2:30:06.720 turn them back into human beings from the swine that 2:30:06.800 --> 2:30:09.400 she turned them into. And then he liked had like 2:30:09.520 --> 2:30:11.360 to make love to her for like a like a 2:30:11.440 --> 2:30:15.320 four year straight. But Moley is what is a herb 2:30:15.440 --> 2:30:17.800 that she gave him? That that that that that made 2:30:17.879 --> 2:30:20.600 him immune to the to the spell that she was 2:30:20.600 --> 2:30:27.960 putting him under. And we had to walk Yeah, it's 2:30:28.000 --> 2:30:33.320 not Hercules's odyss Odysseus. Oh the person you mean? Yeah, 2:30:35.280 --> 2:30:43.040 I'm gonna cut that shows like purple man. Is that Swan? 2:30:43.680 --> 2:30:45.080 You guys got to go to Swan. It's in the 2:30:45.160 --> 2:30:48.480 design district. So is this a perfect cold that we 2:30:48.560 --> 2:30:52.960 have to say you gotta have. It's gonna be a secret. 2:30:53.160 --> 2:30:57.760 It's not Swine's Swan. So here's the thing. I knew 2:30:57.800 --> 2:31:00.320 that was a thing. You went to the bathroom and 2:31:00.400 --> 2:31:04.040 I said, you guys, I'm not from New York. I'm 2:31:04.080 --> 2:31:06.280 not from New York either, right, And so if you 2:31:06.360 --> 2:31:11.040 say you said Swan, Swan people from New York. I 2:31:11.080 --> 2:31:15.280 think you're saying swine, right, Yeah, that's just swine, but 2:31:15.400 --> 2:31:18.720 we really means swan. It's really the thing that floats 2:31:18.760 --> 2:31:20.600 on top, but it's really doing a lot of work 2:31:20.680 --> 2:31:26.920 on the bottom. Swan the bird. Yes, Dave Grupman, myself, 2:31:27.120 --> 2:31:32.400 Alex Perez and also interior designer Can Folk well only 2:31:32.440 --> 2:31:34.240 say that there's a restaurant called Swine down the street. 2:31:34.280 --> 2:31:38.640 That's why. Yeah, we're not swine. Swine's actually been in there. No, no, no, 2:31:38.760 --> 2:31:41.160 it's actually really yeah, but we're swan. We're want to 2:31:41.240 --> 2:31:44.000 design just strict right across from time four. Okay, yes, 2:31:44.120 --> 2:31:53.920 I've been there a couple of times. Liquors yeah, hit that. Ready, 2:31:54.000 --> 2:31:56.600 this is called quick time with Slin. This is just 2:31:56.680 --> 2:32:02.560 one of the other ready. Yeah, I feel like I 2:32:02.600 --> 2:32:07.320 need your whole intention. Okay, sorry, I'm going away for you. Okay, 2:32:07.360 --> 2:32:10.360 I'm here. Are you ready? I'm good? J Or Snoop 2:32:12.080 --> 2:32:19.280 both Terry Rowdy or Quincy both this noise or that noise? 2:32:26.760 --> 2:32:31.120 I love? I love Timper car Yeah both just a 2:32:31.200 --> 2:32:41.080 timper leg or Robin Dick? Who's that? Who's your both? 2:32:42.840 --> 2:32:48.280 Nicky or Cardi b both? You have some random people? 2:32:50.760 --> 2:32:55.760 All right, I'm just gonna police both. And I gotta 2:32:55.800 --> 2:33:01.480 tell you, let's please you know. I love them both, 2:33:03.280 --> 2:33:07.720 and and and and and and given given all of 2:33:07.840 --> 2:33:12.800 everything that I'm going through, like it's man, I love 2:33:12.920 --> 2:33:17.760 them both despite all everything. I love Calise, man. I 2:33:17.879 --> 2:33:23.920 want the best for her, despite everything. Girl from right, No, 2:33:24.440 --> 2:33:27.400 that wasn't my girlfriend, no no, no, no, yeah he 2:33:27.480 --> 2:33:32.520 went he went side. But you know what, she's definitely 2:33:32.600 --> 2:33:37.920 somebody who taught me about fashion um and um. I 2:33:38.000 --> 2:33:40.000 felt like we both taught each other about music and 2:33:40.240 --> 2:33:45.880 art um and we made fantastic music together. I love 2:33:45.959 --> 2:33:48.119 her and I want nothing but the best for her. 2:33:49.879 --> 2:33:53.320 I'm nothing, but I'm only like Calise is like a 2:33:53.400 --> 2:33:55.400 sister to me. I'm only going to have positive things 2:33:55.480 --> 2:33:58.240 to say, period. That's it. And when it comes to 2:33:58.360 --> 2:34:03.840 Missy like we were born in the same state, like man, 2:34:04.000 --> 2:34:06.440 we may on and all together. That's amazing. But man, 2:34:06.720 --> 2:34:10.480 Missy Elliott, I need Missy here on Dreams. Elliott is 2:34:10.560 --> 2:34:16.240 like she's a fucking dream like like period, like she 2:34:16.400 --> 2:34:19.560 was at Adidas before I got There's an uber legend, man. Yeah, 2:34:19.959 --> 2:34:24.280 so listen for the both of them, absolutely nothing but 2:34:24.400 --> 2:34:29.520 love and respect. I'm not gonna actually no more. It 2:34:29.640 --> 2:34:33.320 was clear that you was like the very everybody. It's 2:34:33.360 --> 2:34:35.240 love for everybody. I love that about you for us, 2:34:35.640 --> 2:34:43.200 he makes a noise for yourself. No, here's what I 2:34:43.240 --> 2:34:45.840 want to make noise for. I want to make noise 2:34:45.920 --> 2:34:49.360 for God. Man, bro, I'm gonna take my masks off 2:34:49.400 --> 2:34:53.920 of this one. For God. Listen. I'm talking about mistakes. Listen. 2:34:54.000 --> 2:34:55.760 Let me tell you something. But she could be what 2:34:55.840 --> 2:34:58.400 I'm about to say could be Swiss cheese, the funk 2:34:58.480 --> 2:35:12.279 up mistakes, bad choices and all. God is the greatest. 2:35:13.360 --> 2:35:16.520 Because what I was told today, you know, by my 2:35:16.640 --> 2:35:19.320 uncle who's a bishop. He said, you know what like 2:35:20.040 --> 2:35:22.959 it doesn't like you're bad mistakes or you're bad decisions 2:35:23.040 --> 2:35:26.400 or whatever it is that makes you human. God ain't 2:35:26.400 --> 2:35:28.920 gonna give up on his purpose for you. Whatever God 2:35:29.000 --> 2:35:32.720 has for you, He's gonna see to it that that 2:35:32.879 --> 2:35:37.440 happens because that's for him. And whatever lessons that you 2:35:37.560 --> 2:35:40.480 have to incurage because you've made bad decisions, that's on you. 2:35:40.800 --> 2:35:47.880 But whatever He has for you, no man, no situation, 2:35:50.000 --> 2:35:58.360 and not even the ill informed or ill instinct decisions 2:35:58.400 --> 2:36:00.080 that you make kid get in the way of that, 2:36:01.280 --> 2:36:03.840 because whatever fate has for you, Fate has for you. 2:36:03.920 --> 2:36:05.880 Whatever God God for you, no man can get in 2:36:05.920 --> 2:36:09.480 the way of And so for me, when you say, 2:36:09.600 --> 2:36:11.280 can I give it up for myself? No, no, no, 2:36:11.400 --> 2:36:14.080 no no no. I just want to take this time. 2:36:14.120 --> 2:36:16.920 I don't know how often y'all have done this. But man, 2:36:17.360 --> 2:36:19.280 I know there's alcohol in the room. I know there's 2:36:19.280 --> 2:36:20.720 weird in the room, and there are people who are 2:36:20.760 --> 2:36:24.440 gonna have judgments by me saying this. But if you 2:36:24.560 --> 2:36:28.280 think God is only in the in the church and 2:36:28.440 --> 2:36:32.360 in the synagogue and in the mosque, then you don't 2:36:32.440 --> 2:36:35.080 understand what this world is. You don't understand what this 2:36:35.280 --> 2:36:39.520 universe is. The universe is God. Bro, We are inside God. 2:36:41.560 --> 2:36:43.920 And so I'm just telling you right now, I'm not 2:36:44.080 --> 2:36:46.000 giving shut up for myself what I want to in 2:36:46.040 --> 2:36:48.360 the super kind of you. And I know I need 2:36:48.400 --> 2:36:50.760 to excuse myself because the purple rain has kicked in, 2:36:56.080 --> 2:36:59.920 But I'm gonna excuse myself bym just saying you guys, 2:37:00.959 --> 2:37:04.240 don't get it sucked up. God is the greatest the 2:37:04.320 --> 2:37:07.640 blunts in your mouth, the alcohol is in front of you, 2:37:09.480 --> 2:37:13.440 the entire room, and envision and feeling is in front 2:37:13.480 --> 2:37:18.920 of you. But make no mistake, bro, God is the greatest. God. 2:37:19.000 --> 2:37:25.520 Damn it, God is the greatest. I feel like I 2:37:25.600 --> 2:37:30.320 got one more, Lenna, wrap it up. So for years 2:37:30.800 --> 2:37:33.840 I know you for twenty years. What is it since nineties? 2:37:34.360 --> 2:37:36.720 I want to say since nineties seven, because the record 2:37:36.800 --> 2:37:40.040 dropped at ninety eight and at that DA we needed 2:37:40.120 --> 2:37:42.560 like a year in advance to drop it. So I 2:37:42.600 --> 2:37:47.680 want to say ninety seven. But I've never realized how 2:37:48.000 --> 2:37:56.800 crazy you watch games spoke about the jury, okay, because 2:37:56.879 --> 2:38:01.720 you only do that. I know that's that mill one 2:38:01.840 --> 2:38:06.400 point five million people. Please, it's okay. We're gonna make 2:38:06.440 --> 2:38:09.760 sure no one does nothing because we kill anybody. Yeah. 2:38:10.400 --> 2:38:12.480 So this was in commemoration to the fact that, like 2:38:12.640 --> 2:38:15.720 we went to Mars in nineteen seventy six, you know, 2:38:16.240 --> 2:38:22.000 like and you know, as as as as human beings, 2:38:22.040 --> 2:38:24.959 we sent our our first probe in nineteen seventy six, 2:38:25.000 --> 2:38:26.840 and actually a woman that worked on it. Her name 2:38:26.920 --> 2:38:30.080 was Katherine Johnson. She was called a colored computer because 2:38:30.120 --> 2:38:33.000 when she came into NASA, black people were still still 2:38:33.120 --> 2:38:36.160 deemed as colored because you produced that movie too about them, 2:38:36.240 --> 2:38:39.800 Yes sir, yes, yes, call Hidden Figures. So she worked 2:38:39.840 --> 2:38:42.160 on that. She helped get that probe there. She was 2:38:42.400 --> 2:38:45.960 one of the mathematicians to help get that probe there 2:38:46.040 --> 2:38:52.000 from NASA to the surface of Mars okay Um. But 2:38:52.240 --> 2:38:54.840 the idea that Mars is so important to us, and 2:38:54.959 --> 2:38:58.440 that you know, the ones right after us are the millennials, 2:38:58.480 --> 2:39:00.120 are the ones after that are gen zers, and the 2:39:00.200 --> 2:39:03.920 ones after that our children. They have the Mars generation 2:39:04.000 --> 2:39:06.279 because they'll go back and forth to Mars like a snowball. 2:39:07.600 --> 2:39:12.760 They're talking about now too, Yes, sir, absolutely, So I 2:39:12.879 --> 2:39:14.720 say all that to say that, like, you know, you know, 2:39:14.879 --> 2:39:17.840 Mars is back on our horizon. It's back and popular, 2:39:18.800 --> 2:39:22.240 and so you know, we wanted to make a Richard 2:39:22.320 --> 2:39:23.920 and I wanted to make a watch that sort of 2:39:23.959 --> 2:39:29.320 commemorated that we really wanted. We really wanted. No one 2:39:29.520 --> 2:39:36.480 knows Richard, yeah, Richard, Yeah. We have another one that's 2:39:36.480 --> 2:39:39.000 coming out pretty soon. It's already sold out, it's gone, 2:39:39.440 --> 2:39:41.600 but it's actually going to hit the market pretty soon. 2:39:41.680 --> 2:39:43.959 And that is the Sapphire version, which is super clear. 2:39:44.520 --> 2:39:47.600 So a lot of watches pride themselves on being double skeletal, 2:39:47.720 --> 2:39:50.400 but this entire thing is X ray, meaning you can 2:39:50.440 --> 2:39:52.360 see through the side. You can see the front. You 2:39:52.400 --> 2:39:55.320 can see through everything, not just the top and the bottom. 2:39:55.480 --> 2:39:59.320 Like skeletal is just the bones. But this is X 2:39:59.440 --> 2:40:02.680 ray we see at all leaving. Yeah, that was not 2:40:02.800 --> 2:40:05.800 a Dominican way to pop the bottle? What was the 2:40:05.840 --> 2:40:11.000 Dominican way him dancing? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, continued, you 2:40:11.080 --> 2:40:14.600 know it's okay, Um, so listen. By the way, you 2:40:14.680 --> 2:40:16.680 know what, I don't spend enough time talking about Richard. 2:40:17.000 --> 2:40:20.480 Richard Mill has been not only so good to me, 2:40:20.640 --> 2:40:24.720 but he like cares about you know, if he cares 2:40:24.720 --> 2:40:28.800 about children. Uh, you know what he does the various 2:40:28.879 --> 2:40:31.240 programs that he has and he's a watch company. But 2:40:31.360 --> 2:40:36.600 he sponsored so many olympiads and people who like, you know, 2:40:36.720 --> 2:40:40.039 running the Olympics and training the Olympics and actually performing 2:40:40.160 --> 2:40:44.400 dancing and Olympics sorry interrupting, Yeah, yeah, breakdancing and skateboarding 2:40:44.440 --> 2:40:50.400 and Olympics skateboard. We get your skateboard. Yeah, you guys 2:40:50.440 --> 2:40:52.120 gave me the component oria and when that was that 2:40:52.200 --> 2:40:55.360 was hard. I'm gonna mount that bitch up and skatering 2:40:55.560 --> 2:40:59.040 for sure. Um. But Richard has just been so good man, 2:40:59.160 --> 2:41:01.640 because at the end of the day, like you think, 2:41:01.720 --> 2:41:04.879 he's just you know with Bubba Watson and the doll 2:41:05.080 --> 2:41:08.920 or whatever whatever. But Richard actually really cares about like 2:41:09.040 --> 2:41:11.840 the youth and his like programs. He's a lot of 2:41:11.920 --> 2:41:14.200 programs and and and a lot of them are very 2:41:14.920 --> 2:41:20.400 you know, child child and sports oriented. And I've just 2:41:20.520 --> 2:41:23.400 been so grateful because I've loved to watch them since 2:41:23.480 --> 2:41:24.880 what I was talking about it and can I have 2:41:25.000 --> 2:41:27.720 that like that? Like I don't know what is the 2:41:27.840 --> 2:41:31.880 two thousand six or seven and and um, and he 2:41:32.120 --> 2:41:35.840 just you know, to meet the guy and see what 2:41:36.000 --> 2:41:39.480 he really cares about. How does this happen? Because I 2:41:39.560 --> 2:41:40.920 put it in can I have it like that? And 2:41:41.040 --> 2:41:44.560 he heard about it and he sort of sought me out. 2:41:44.760 --> 2:41:46.480 So he kind of came to me. It was weird, 2:41:48.000 --> 2:41:50.160 you know, and then so we just started working together. 2:41:50.320 --> 2:41:54.480 And you know, the funniest thing is that because because 2:41:54.600 --> 2:42:00.600 it's because he's weird, because like I would have never 2:42:00.680 --> 2:42:02.760 thought to go to him at the time. That's my brother. 2:42:02.840 --> 2:42:05.240 Kanye Kanyu is a smart guy. Kanye, when he has 2:42:05.280 --> 2:42:07.920 an idea, he goes after it. For me, I would 2:42:07.920 --> 2:42:10.320 have these ideas and if I was lucky enough, the 2:42:10.440 --> 2:42:14.000 idea come to me. What happened? What Kanye came to 2:42:14.080 --> 2:42:18.000 you with no no example. Kanye is different because when 2:42:18.040 --> 2:42:20.199 he thinks things, he goes after it. And I wasn't 2:42:20.280 --> 2:42:23.000 like that. I was more like I would think these 2:42:23.080 --> 2:42:25.320 things and if I uttered them in a song, sometimes 2:42:25.400 --> 2:42:28.720 those things would come to be like you know. Only 2:42:28.879 --> 2:42:31.560 after a while I realized, oh, I gotta go after 2:42:31.640 --> 2:42:34.000 these things that I say, you know, I have to 2:42:34.120 --> 2:42:38.199 really turn to help turn them into fruition. And Richard 2:42:38.240 --> 2:42:39.720 Mill was one of those things where I didn't go 2:42:39.800 --> 2:42:41.480 after it. I said it in a song me and 2:42:41.560 --> 2:42:45.320 Gwen and that song can happen about that? Yeah, make 2:42:45.480 --> 2:42:47.800 because you just use the first name, you're killing us here. Sorry, 2:42:48.720 --> 2:42:56.360 listen to Purple Rains kicked that Yeah, purples fun so 2:42:56.560 --> 2:43:01.080 like so like so like um you know. Richard reached 2:43:01.160 --> 2:43:02.840 out and he was like, look, I'm so honored that 2:43:02.920 --> 2:43:04.920 you talked about it to saw us do something together 2:43:04.920 --> 2:43:07.920 and at the time Happy it came out and he 2:43:08.080 --> 2:43:10.040 was like, okay, I saw you do kid, I have 2:43:10.160 --> 2:43:11.600 it like that, but then you have the song happy 2:43:11.720 --> 2:43:14.640 like let's do something. And I was like, man, I 2:43:14.760 --> 2:43:19.160 really love like I love the idea of like man 2:43:19.480 --> 2:43:27.680 being um man seeing himself going out there into the 2:43:27.959 --> 2:43:33.200 into the into the universe and making his mark. And 2:43:33.280 --> 2:43:36.440 as a black man, I want that for my culture. 2:43:36.480 --> 2:43:38.360 I want my culture to continue to look at things 2:43:38.440 --> 2:43:40.800 like that, like like, yo, we can do anything. I know, 2:43:40.920 --> 2:43:42.920 we lost a brother out there and you know in 2:43:43.040 --> 2:43:46.440 the first Space Shuttle explosion, Well we can, we can. 2:43:46.720 --> 2:43:48.640 We could go there, we could go to any one 2:43:48.680 --> 2:43:51.840 of these planets or any one of their moons and 2:43:51.959 --> 2:43:54.680 bake it. And he was like, okay, cool. So then 2:43:54.720 --> 2:43:58.960 we did the Watch together and I just remember him 2:43:59.080 --> 2:44:01.040 just telling me about all these programs where he was 2:44:01.080 --> 2:44:04.960 sponsoring all these Olympic like watch on right, yeah, he 2:44:05.120 --> 2:44:08.840 was sponsoring all these Olympics. Yeah, but he was sponsoring 2:44:08.920 --> 2:44:14.200 all these runners. And I was like, yo, you're like 2:44:14.760 --> 2:44:17.000 you're like killing it in the Watch game right now. 2:44:17.320 --> 2:44:20.640 You're surpassing everything. The resale on everything that you do 2:44:20.920 --> 2:44:25.440 is doing really well, Like you don't have to care 2:44:25.520 --> 2:44:29.800 about all these black people. Watches exist, though, but hear me, 2:44:30.800 --> 2:44:36.600 he's sponsoring all these black people. Yes, right now, actively 2:44:36.720 --> 2:44:42.320 as we speak, he's sponsoring all these like black like Olympiads. 2:44:43.320 --> 2:44:46.280 It's crazy. No one knows this, and so for me, 2:44:46.480 --> 2:44:48.760 it was like, oh yeah, hell, yeah, I'm gonna work 2:44:48.800 --> 2:44:51.360 with you. Not only did I want to work and 2:44:51.480 --> 2:44:54.280 he was already doing it. Yeah, he had been doing it. 2:44:54.760 --> 2:44:56.400 And so like if you talk to him right now, 2:44:56.920 --> 2:44:59.560 there's like there's like Olympic running of people who are 2:45:00.000 --> 2:45:02.560 actively competing, who have watches, and you didn't know that 2:45:02.680 --> 2:45:05.520 they were like based on like Olympic runners, and these 2:45:05.560 --> 2:45:10.200 guys are actually all benefiting from it. It's unbelievable. And 2:45:10.280 --> 2:45:14.320 he's he'll sponsor a village, He's I mean things you 2:45:14.400 --> 2:45:23.440 don't even know what. Listen, what I'm saying to you 2:45:23.560 --> 2:45:26.720 is he's a good man. He's got every opportunity to 2:45:26.879 --> 2:45:30.680 just be like a European man who's literally just making 2:45:30.800 --> 2:45:34.240 his money, but literally he's not. He's thinking outside of 2:45:35.080 --> 2:45:38.280 his continent and going to the places where we are 2:45:38.760 --> 2:45:42.039 and where we're most afflicted, whether it is thinking about 2:45:42.080 --> 2:45:45.240 the safety of children on the road or or or 2:45:45.560 --> 2:45:50.640 or thinking about what we're going to need when we 2:45:50.760 --> 2:45:54.560 are really talented, but we don't. We come from very 2:45:54.680 --> 2:45:57.119 modest means, and we come from a community that can't 2:45:57.120 --> 2:46:01.200 provide for us. I would encourage you to do the 2:46:01.280 --> 2:46:04.959 homework and see the programs that Richard Mill has. It's 2:46:05.080 --> 2:46:10.400 not just like superior Swiss movement and like very expensive, 2:46:11.200 --> 2:46:16.760 like you know, record breaking um um um um um 2:46:17.200 --> 2:46:23.680 price tax. It's a culture and culture and good from 2:46:23.680 --> 2:46:25.760 what you're saying. Yeah, it's changed the way that I think. 2:46:25.879 --> 2:46:27.600 I used to just think it was just like a 2:46:27.680 --> 2:46:29.640 cool design of a watch. Now I know that it's 2:46:29.720 --> 2:46:32.200 really the personality of a man. I'm surprised you don't 2:46:32.200 --> 2:46:37.040 work with Elen it anyway. Yeah, I think Ellen is amazing. 2:46:37.120 --> 2:46:41.680 I'm just using first names because that's all he's doing. Elon. 2:46:41.840 --> 2:46:47.440 Elon Musk is amazing. Um. We talked a couple of times. 2:46:49.200 --> 2:46:52.440 We're not I would say that we're friendly, but we're not. 2:46:53.720 --> 2:46:55.000 You know, I don't. I don't talk to him all 2:46:55.000 --> 2:46:56.520 the time, talk to him here and there. You know, 2:46:57.120 --> 2:46:58.760 like what would be the initiative with him if you 2:46:58.800 --> 2:47:02.080 were to work with him, what would yeah, what would 2:47:02.080 --> 2:47:20.280 you envision a collaboration between y'all two? You know, Let 2:47:20.360 --> 2:47:22.320 me say this first before I answer a question. Elon 2:47:22.440 --> 2:47:24.240 Musk is a man who thinks about things from a 2:47:24.400 --> 2:47:28.360 very different perspective. He thinks in the future. When he 2:47:28.440 --> 2:47:31.520 answered when you asked him a question, he's going to 2:47:31.600 --> 2:47:35.520 give your answer this, So you want to be very 2:47:35.640 --> 2:47:40.039 careful and cognizant of what you're asking him. You want 2:47:40.080 --> 2:47:41.840 to make sure you're asking the right thing at the 2:47:41.959 --> 2:47:49.080 right time. And I would ask him to think about 2:47:52.920 --> 2:47:55.920 how to I would want to go to him. I 2:47:55.920 --> 2:47:58.760 would look at him as a problem solver, because that's 2:47:58.800 --> 2:48:01.520 what he is. But he's been a problem solving for 2:48:01.600 --> 2:48:06.879 the things that he deems most important. I don't from 2:48:07.000 --> 2:48:09.600 his POV and I don't disagree with the things that 2:48:09.720 --> 2:48:13.400 he has thought about. But I if I were him, 2:48:13.840 --> 2:48:17.880 I would think, how do we get Elon Musk to 2:48:18.000 --> 2:48:24.680 put his brain cells to consider how to make our 2:48:29.080 --> 2:48:35.000 supremacist brothers and sisters understand the plight of the people 2:48:35.080 --> 2:48:38.960 that they hate. M. If we could get Elon Musk 2:48:39.040 --> 2:48:44.720 to think about racism, If we could get Elon Musk 2:48:45.600 --> 2:48:54.640 to think about federal subsidies, if we could get Elon 2:48:54.760 --> 2:49:02.440 Musk to think about women M and we could get 2:49:02.520 --> 2:49:04.760 a lion must to think about the plight of women. 2:49:06.400 --> 2:49:09.119 I think that he's such a genius that if when 2:49:09.160 --> 2:49:12.080 he applies himself to a situation, he figures his way 2:49:12.120 --> 2:49:14.959 out his the way that he's looked at sonap Solar 2:49:15.040 --> 2:49:21.520 panel solar panels, and that business has been ingenious. If 2:49:21.560 --> 2:49:23.520 we could get him to think about the plight of 2:49:23.640 --> 2:49:27.879 black Americans and how to translate that to are less 2:49:27.959 --> 2:49:33.800 empathetic and even sometimes apathetic white brothers and sisters. Yeah, 2:49:35.240 --> 2:49:40.240 if we could get him to think about so many things. 2:49:40.560 --> 2:49:42.800 It's the same thing I would say for Nikolai Tesla. 2:49:43.400 --> 2:49:46.600 He named his company right, he named his company after Tesla. 2:49:46.840 --> 2:49:49.440 Same thing I would say to Einstein. It's like man theory, 2:49:49.720 --> 2:49:55.000 theory of relatively we needed that, But brother, we needed 2:49:55.040 --> 2:50:00.360 you to for so much more. If you could, Mr Eerstein, 2:50:00.400 --> 2:50:04.320 if you could have sat down with Malcolm, imagine coming 2:50:04.400 --> 2:50:07.640 up also during World War Two. He's Jewish during Nazi. 2:50:08.600 --> 2:50:10.720 But that's my point. If we could have gotten you 2:50:10.959 --> 2:50:15.560 to beat Mr Malcolm, Mr Einstein, if we could have 2:50:15.640 --> 2:50:22.520 got you to meet you know, Mr Martin Ellen, if 2:50:22.560 --> 2:50:26.000 we could have gotten you to sit down and have 2:50:26.160 --> 2:50:37.160 a conversation with who which. By the way, by the way, 2:50:37.520 --> 2:50:39.840 I'm not saying that in a white savior type of way. 2:50:40.000 --> 2:50:43.800 What I'm saying is if we could have gotten because 2:50:43.879 --> 2:50:46.440 I started. But there's gonna be people. They're gonna be 2:50:46.720 --> 2:50:50.680 people who cut up everything that I'm saying all things 2:50:50.760 --> 2:50:52.840 that like a white savior could save everything, and they 2:50:52.879 --> 2:50:55.840 didn't hear the context. I started this conversation by saying, 2:50:56.560 --> 2:50:59.560 you said to me about Ellen thinking about things right. 2:51:00.320 --> 2:51:02.680 But what I'm what I'm saying is when you talk 2:51:02.720 --> 2:51:05.440 to Ellen Musk, you asked him a question. And the 2:51:05.560 --> 2:51:07.520 times that I've talked to him is in nineteen I 2:51:07.560 --> 2:51:09.960 think I talked to him in twenty twenty about like 2:51:10.640 --> 2:51:13.160 cars and ship that I needed because we have four children. 2:51:16.240 --> 2:51:18.840 But when you ask Ellen a question in he gives 2:51:18.879 --> 2:51:24.000 you an answer forty or forty or right. So if 2:51:24.080 --> 2:51:31.960 we could have had him, mama, so we could add 2:51:32.040 --> 2:51:36.720 Ellen ask a question, don't count you or or or 2:51:36.959 --> 2:51:42.080 or or or give a contributor a contributive, give a 2:51:42.160 --> 2:51:45.959 contribution to the thought of some of these considerations. I'm 2:51:46.000 --> 2:51:48.320 selling you what I would have wanted him to weigh 2:51:48.320 --> 2:52:00.760 in on that SI should be illegal. Teach you get 2:52:00.800 --> 2:52:06.000 the shots. That's beautiful looking thing. Yo. I'm so glad 2:52:06.080 --> 2:52:08.920 you're yeah, bro, I'm glad I'm here. I thought I 2:52:08.959 --> 2:52:18.080 thought you will never come that family. Wait, let me 2:52:18.120 --> 2:52:20.000 get a shot. Hold on with the test me like that. 2:52:21.360 --> 2:52:23.120 Cheer up man, Let's thre me with a good time, 2:52:23.959 --> 2:52:34.240 thank you for joining us. Now I was, I was 2:52:34.320 --> 2:52:38.160 just doing bakado song in my mind. Oh yeah, we're 2:52:38.240 --> 2:52:44.320 right now. How long you know for real lap tunes, 2:52:44.720 --> 2:52:49.080 the whole family, break it down, family tuning for us 2:52:49.920 --> 2:52:52.840 right at least? Well I knew, I knew for real 2:52:52.920 --> 2:52:59.040 before the nap tunes. Yeah. Um, long story shot. He 2:52:59.240 --> 2:53:02.519 used to come out neighborhood. WI grew up at Huntsville. 2:53:03.360 --> 2:53:04.920 He was coming out there back then, and that's how 2:53:05.000 --> 2:53:09.120 we initially met and then linked back up a couple 2:53:09.120 --> 2:53:11.720 of years later when he was doing music. But when 2:53:11.760 --> 2:53:15.040 you got met, were you doing music already in the beginning? Now? 2:53:15.160 --> 2:53:17.240 But I got a wild story that like when I um, 2:53:18.240 --> 2:53:19.879 when I first linked back up with him, I heard 2:53:19.879 --> 2:53:21.320 he was doing music and I've seen him in the 2:53:21.320 --> 2:53:23.920 club one night on my birthday and I was like, yo, 2:53:24.000 --> 2:53:25.920 I heard you doing music and he no, a matter 2:53:25.920 --> 2:53:28.160 of fact, you said he here that rapped. So he 2:53:28.240 --> 2:53:29.600 was like, you'll do something for me right now, and 2:53:29.640 --> 2:53:31.520 I was like super drunk. It was like my birthday 2:53:31.560 --> 2:53:33.800 and Ship. So I was like, Ship didn't even put 2:53:33.840 --> 2:53:36.360 me on the spot, but I brought for him. And 2:53:36.400 --> 2:53:38.680 then just like you'll come through see how the music 2:53:38.760 --> 2:53:43.119 world work, and then been rolling every since. It's been 2:53:43.160 --> 2:53:46.560 my mind. So how did you How do you feel 2:53:46.600 --> 2:53:50.360 when you've seen the clips the first take off? Oh no, 2:53:50.440 --> 2:53:53.680 I was happy for my brothers. Yeah, I was there 2:53:53.760 --> 2:53:56.200 for what wasn't all that I was there. I've seen that. 2:53:56.280 --> 2:54:00.879 I remember all that Protectlar because I want to say, 2:54:00.959 --> 2:54:05.680 like you know yea, oh no, it was like it's grinding. 2:54:05.760 --> 2:54:08.920 I remembering he was so excited about grinding. He told 2:54:08.959 --> 2:54:12.200 me coming to the gym and I flew, Oh, I 2:54:12.320 --> 2:54:15.880 drove to Yeah, he was in. Yeah, that were you 2:54:15.959 --> 2:54:17.280 when you was in the video of that crib that 2:54:17.360 --> 2:54:19.320 you they shot you and that's like, my people are 2:54:19.360 --> 2:54:21.120 doing right up the se from that. That was definitely 2:54:21.120 --> 2:54:29.520 still cooking. Crack out there, let's make some Yeah, I 2:54:29.520 --> 2:54:33.600 think it's just out there still cooking. Was crazy. But 2:54:33.680 --> 2:54:36.440 now to see the clips do the thing. I don't 2:54:36.440 --> 2:54:38.600 know if you understood when you was writing, I was like, 2:54:38.640 --> 2:54:42.880 I don't, I'm alright, man. I stayed. I stayed the 2:54:42.920 --> 2:54:50.000 whole time. I stayed the whole time, understand as you would. Yeah. Yeah, 2:54:50.040 --> 2:54:51.520 but to see the clips do it, man, was it 2:54:51.600 --> 2:54:53.920 went for all of us like you know, like you said, 2:54:53.959 --> 2:54:55.840 were from Virginie. You don't really get to see that. 2:54:56.560 --> 2:54:59.320 And just seeing you know, my family take off, it 2:54:59.440 --> 2:55:02.120 was like, let's go. And this is a question for 2:55:02.240 --> 2:55:04.840 both of y'all. How weird is it to see malice 2:55:05.480 --> 2:55:19.520 go one way and then push you? So this case, 2:55:19.600 --> 2:55:22.879 you wants some aces SPA because you know I'm gonna 2:55:23.160 --> 2:55:29.080 I'm on that Prince Rogers, Nelson, Alight, we better know 2:55:29.480 --> 2:55:34.200 Nelson Rodgers want this guy one. You don't know this guy. 2:55:34.480 --> 2:55:37.880 So look so look when you mentioned guy, that's when 2:55:37.920 --> 2:55:39.400 I got to sit up in my seat. I gotta 2:55:39.440 --> 2:55:43.640 get it right, h What was your question again? The 2:55:43.879 --> 2:55:46.600 malice and pushing the difference? I just want to make 2:55:46.640 --> 2:55:52.800 sure because the purple brain is kicked in every time 2:55:53.600 --> 2:56:02.880 everybody one to three. I'm sorry. So that's a Swan 2:56:03.000 --> 2:56:12.519 Ladies and gentlemen in the design district, Craig Robbins, I'm drop. 2:56:13.560 --> 2:56:19.000 Can we get this on film? Somebody? I always want to. 2:56:19.160 --> 2:56:22.000 I just want everybody to know, like like like, okay, 2:56:22.480 --> 2:56:29.440 so at Swan you can get just being clear on 2:56:29.560 --> 2:56:32.160 drain chants like I guess what they would be anything, 2:56:32.160 --> 2:56:34.880 any kind of any kind of officiating or you know, 2:56:35.000 --> 2:56:37.240 any kind of officiating in any level. It's like it's 2:56:37.280 --> 2:56:40.640 going to be on drain chance. Thank you to appreciating 2:56:44.600 --> 2:56:47.320 continue that flash it. He was talking about your question. 2:56:49.400 --> 2:56:52.000 So your question is about Malice and push you. So 2:56:53.000 --> 2:56:58.440 Malice had a conviction. Something came over him, and I 2:56:58.600 --> 2:57:01.960 never really got into it because I was afraid of it. 2:57:02.040 --> 2:57:03.720 I was afraid to hear what it was because I 2:57:03.840 --> 2:57:06.600 was afraid to hear that, Like if I heard it, 2:57:07.240 --> 2:57:09.400 it would transform me. It's funny, and I'm looking at 2:57:09.440 --> 2:57:13.280 a T shirt that says beats in the hood, right, 2:57:13.840 --> 2:57:15.640 But let me tell you something right now, with the 2:57:15.800 --> 2:57:20.960 simple rearrangement of the st it could go from beats 2:57:21.520 --> 2:57:24.280 to beasts. And that's kind of like what I was 2:57:24.360 --> 2:57:27.400 feeling at the time when I saw Malice being hit. 2:57:27.879 --> 2:57:31.880 I was afraid of asking what happened to him because 2:57:31.920 --> 2:57:35.000 I didn't. I wasn't I wasn't ready for it. I 2:57:35.160 --> 2:57:39.320 wasn't ready for it. He told me was gonna transform me, 2:57:40.280 --> 2:57:43.960 and what hit him so long ago hit me later 2:57:44.040 --> 2:57:49.000 on in my life. And when we saw him go 2:57:49.120 --> 2:57:52.039 through that transformation, all of us we had the utmost respect. 2:57:53.040 --> 2:57:56.960 But you need to know I don't think just because 2:57:57.000 --> 2:57:59.760 a person a person has accepted God in their lives 2:58:00.560 --> 2:58:03.800 or in their life, that they don't think the same 2:58:03.879 --> 2:58:07.120 things or have the same instincts. Their instincts may change. 2:58:10.000 --> 2:58:14.360 But who you are is who you are. And when 2:58:14.520 --> 2:58:18.120 God enters your when God and the universe enters your life, 2:58:18.640 --> 2:58:22.240 what you are doesn't change what to you, what you are, 2:58:22.320 --> 2:58:25.320 it remains the same. But what you do it for, 2:58:27.640 --> 2:58:32.160 that's what changes. And I wasn't ready for that. I 2:58:32.320 --> 2:58:36.440 was afraid of that. But then, like you know, when 2:58:36.520 --> 2:58:44.440 I did, like get lucky, blurred lines and happy at 2:58:44.480 --> 2:58:47.400 the same year, and all that ship came out. The 2:58:47.520 --> 2:58:53.440 ship wigged me the funk out right. I never touched 2:58:53.520 --> 2:59:00.560 cocaine one of those. And by the way, by the way, already, 2:59:00.760 --> 2:59:02.959 let me be real clear about that. There's a lot 2:59:03.040 --> 2:59:05.080 of people that do. And I ain't got nothing against him. Bro. 2:59:05.200 --> 2:59:07.280 You see a lot of cocaine sessions. Part about it, 2:59:07.320 --> 2:59:10.200 all of it, Man, A lot of people fun with coke. Bro. 2:59:10.320 --> 2:59:12.560 I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't judge, man, 2:59:12.959 --> 2:59:42.080 we judge, we see. Oh so here's the thing, bro, 2:59:43.400 --> 2:59:47.880 they're fucking judging you. Man, not judging nobody people do 2:59:48.040 --> 2:59:51.400 ship like that, and it's okay, people do other ship. 2:59:52.000 --> 2:59:53.960 You know what you could be do you be doing worse? 2:59:55.040 --> 2:59:57.880 You could be a fucking like you could be a 3:00:02.720 --> 3:00:07.760 sex trafficker. Wait a minute, you could be a fucking pedophile. 3:00:08.080 --> 3:00:12.760 Wait a minute, you could be a fucking kidnapper. There's 3:00:12.800 --> 3:00:16.000 so many things you could fucking be if that's what 3:00:16.160 --> 3:00:19.560 you've chosen, because that ship makes you feel better than ever. 3:00:20.200 --> 3:00:23.240 I don't condone it, and I'm not gonna celebrate you, 3:00:24.040 --> 3:00:26.240 but I'm not gonna judge you. And that's the most 3:00:26.280 --> 3:00:33.760 important part. I'm gonna judge you. Judging that that, yo, bro, 3:00:33.959 --> 3:00:36.480 there would be no Miami like that ship built Miami. 3:00:36.600 --> 3:00:42.200 Let's be clear, game boys, right and ship both. I'm 3:00:42.240 --> 3:00:44.440 not celebrating it and I'm not condoning it. But what 3:00:44.560 --> 3:00:48.160 I am not doing, I'm gonna what I'm also not doing. 3:00:48.520 --> 3:00:52.800 I'm just not just tosting you. I'm just tolting. Yeah. 3:00:56.480 --> 3:01:01.400 But I've told you though, feel up because it's that 3:01:01.480 --> 3:01:06.600 big boy. Look what I'm saying. What I'm saying to 3:01:06.720 --> 3:01:11.840 you is white white society living. Come on, family. What 3:01:11.879 --> 3:01:15.080 I'm saying to you is what we gotta stop doing, 3:01:16.360 --> 3:01:20.640 even when it's the ship that we hate. What we 3:01:20.720 --> 3:01:23.880 gotta do is we gotta stop judging, bro, because the 3:01:24.000 --> 3:01:28.400 judging is what what keeps people doing dark ship and 3:01:28.560 --> 3:01:34.600 dark circles and hiding it versus like saying, you know what, 3:01:35.200 --> 3:01:37.879 I'm not mad at you, brother, and I'm not judging you, brother. 3:01:38.200 --> 3:01:40.880 I'm angry at what you're doing, but I'm not mad 3:01:40.920 --> 3:01:43.120 at you because I realized something that's happened to you 3:01:43.800 --> 3:01:49.400 and that you need help. And unfortunately, what happens with cocaine, 3:01:49.800 --> 3:01:52.560 it's like people get caught up in that place where 3:01:52.560 --> 3:01:55.240 they feel like they can't really say it. They're either 3:01:55.360 --> 3:01:58.080 celebrating it or they're hiding it. And what we need 3:01:58.160 --> 3:01:59.600 to do is we got to get to a place 3:02:00.200 --> 3:02:02.240 as black people in the Latin X where we say, 3:02:02.280 --> 3:02:04.280 you know what, I'm not gonna judge you. I just 3:02:04.360 --> 3:02:06.040 feel like you might need a little bit of help 3:02:07.600 --> 3:02:14.640 and there are functional users. By the way of all kinds. 3:02:15.480 --> 3:02:18.440 I'll just be honest with you. We love cocaine stories. Here. 3:02:18.840 --> 3:02:22.080 You have a cocaine story. I do not. I do 3:02:22.200 --> 3:02:24.360 not not at all, not at all. I know I 3:02:24.440 --> 3:02:28.520 know I have cocaine stories that I'm not gonna gonna 3:02:28.640 --> 3:02:32.120 gonna share for my friends who were who were absolutely 3:02:33.840 --> 3:02:38.080 in the motherfucking game. I would never And that's because, 3:02:38.640 --> 3:02:40.959 and let me tell you why, I would never respect 3:02:41.000 --> 3:02:49.039 that watch this purple rain sip. I would never share 3:02:50.320 --> 3:02:52.760 because I always made it very clear to my friends 3:02:53.000 --> 3:02:56.480 who were involved in that business. Brother don't involve me, 3:02:56.520 --> 3:03:04.600 because I'm telling so. I would never share because there's 3:03:04.680 --> 3:03:07.760 nothing for me to share except that one part. Don't 3:03:07.800 --> 3:03:09.080 do no ship in front of me, because I ain't 3:03:09.080 --> 3:03:12.920 built like that. You're tough, you live that life. You 3:03:13.000 --> 3:03:15.640 do what you do. Don't share that ship with me 3:03:16.200 --> 3:03:19.360 because I ain't built for it. No one one is 3:03:19.400 --> 3:03:32.920 my friend, you know. So I say this, So I 3:03:33.000 --> 3:03:37.080 say this, like, look, we gotta get to a place 3:03:37.160 --> 3:03:39.560 as a culture where we start to like embrace our 3:03:39.600 --> 3:03:42.680 brothers and sisters all their flaws. They're gonna all do 3:03:42.800 --> 3:03:45.200 some ship that you don't like. But you know what, 3:03:45.440 --> 3:03:47.480 we live in this world, and you know what, it 3:03:47.560 --> 3:03:51.640 don't matter who won this White House. What matters is 3:03:52.480 --> 3:03:55.920 the general population. And seventy one, seventy one million of 3:03:56.040 --> 3:03:59.480 them agree with some things that don't really agree with 3:03:59.600 --> 3:04:03.000 latin X. You see, we have a we have a 3:04:03.160 --> 3:04:06.480 we have a a system here in America. When you 3:04:06.640 --> 3:04:11.360 make it to the American beaches, you can request for it, 3:04:11.480 --> 3:04:16.760 like you know asylum, right, yeah, what food for Cubans. 3:04:18.200 --> 3:04:20.520 But then we have them that that that that think 3:04:20.600 --> 3:04:27.400 to themselves law, they should be arrested. You see. We 3:04:27.520 --> 3:04:34.560 need to spend more more time empathizing. So I'm not 3:04:34.720 --> 3:04:39.120 judging my black brothers and my brown brothers. I'm not 3:04:39.240 --> 3:04:41.360 judging anyone really at the end of the day. What 3:04:41.480 --> 3:04:43.920 we gotta do is we gotta learn empathy. Man. And 3:04:44.000 --> 3:04:45.760 there's some ship that you're gonna look at. You gonna 3:04:45.760 --> 3:04:47.240 be like, now, funk with that at all. But you 3:04:47.320 --> 3:04:52.360 gotta understand that's a sickness, bro. Education as well. We 3:04:52.440 --> 3:04:56.440 got to educate people more things, educate ourselves, and educate 3:04:56.520 --> 3:04:59.760 each other because there are sitnesses in history. Motherucker's don't 3:04:59.800 --> 3:05:02.879 know street anymore, so they don't have no historical context. 3:05:02.920 --> 3:05:06.400 You don't know shit. We gotta get to that place. 3:05:07.160 --> 3:05:09.480 And all I'm saying is I'm not I'm not there 3:05:09.600 --> 3:05:12.400 right now. Where where I'm at is. Look, I'm not perfect, 3:05:13.480 --> 3:05:15.760 I'm not special. What I am is I'm lucky to 3:05:15.840 --> 3:05:19.480 be alive and to exist and be able to to 3:05:19.720 --> 3:05:22.880 to contribute, to be a conduit, two things to to 3:05:23.200 --> 3:05:27.240 the greater purpose, and that is for us unifying and 3:05:27.360 --> 3:05:30.640 accepting each other and educating each other where we can, 3:05:31.280 --> 3:05:34.360 and not judging. That's the problem. The judging is that's 3:05:34.360 --> 3:05:37.600 what fox us, you know, because they do what the 3:05:37.680 --> 3:05:40.360 fun they do all the fucking time, and then when 3:05:40.400 --> 3:05:43.080 that person does it, go, oh, he's a fucked up individual. No, 3:05:43.400 --> 3:05:45.440 all of you motherfucker's do that. It's just that that 3:05:45.520 --> 3:05:49.520 one got caught. But for us, we and when I 3:05:49.560 --> 3:05:52.680 say us, I mean people who know that they're not perfect. 3:05:52.720 --> 3:05:57.360 Not just color lines, not just sexual lines, are genitalia lines. 3:05:57.680 --> 3:06:00.400 Because some people don't have identify as gener dir what 3:06:00.480 --> 3:06:03.680 I'm talking about his spirit. If you identify as generally 3:06:03.760 --> 3:06:06.200 a good spirit but you've got some issues, guess what 3:06:06.320 --> 3:06:13.920 you are. You're fucking human. Right. We gotta get to 3:06:14.000 --> 3:06:17.080 a place where the good spirits get together and say, look, 3:06:17.200 --> 3:06:20.120 none of us are perfect, but let's hold each other 3:06:20.200 --> 3:06:22.520 accountable and let's get each other to help that. We 3:06:22.680 --> 3:06:25.960 need to get to that great place because at the 3:06:26.040 --> 3:06:30.680 end of the day, this land was Native American. It 3:06:30.879 --> 3:06:35.400 was built by black skin and black sweat. And the 3:06:35.480 --> 3:06:39.440 first commodity traded ever in this country was on Wall Street? 3:06:39.560 --> 3:06:43.000 What do you think it was? People? Okay? And that's 3:06:43.040 --> 3:06:46.080 because we had to stand against the what what do 3:06:46.240 --> 3:06:50.240 we have to stand against the wall? Why do you 3:06:50.360 --> 3:06:55.039 think they call it wall Street? That's us. So here's 3:06:55.080 --> 3:06:57.480 the thing. I don't give a funk what color you are, 3:06:58.560 --> 3:07:01.120 if you have some sort of good spirit in you, 3:07:01.680 --> 3:07:04.520 we need to unify, bro. We got to educate each 3:07:04.560 --> 3:07:10.920 other and stop judging. And you know what, we also 3:07:11.000 --> 3:07:14.160 need to stand behind our minorities man like, you know, 3:07:14.440 --> 3:07:17.920 not just black, not just Latin X, but also l 3:07:18.000 --> 3:07:20.200 g B, t q I, because they're human beings. They 3:07:20.280 --> 3:07:26.840 gotta brain, they gotta mind, they have ambitions to be acknowledged. Yea. Like, listen, 3:07:26.959 --> 3:07:28.720 just because you don't agree and you don't get it, 3:07:29.120 --> 3:07:31.400 it ain't for you to agree. You know what it's 3:07:31.440 --> 3:07:33.520 for you to do stand there and be there for 3:07:33.600 --> 3:07:37.520 your brother and your sister and whatever God God deems judgeable. 3:07:38.160 --> 3:07:41.000 Let God and that person deal with that. You ain't 3:07:41.040 --> 3:07:43.680 the fucking judge of the jury. We need to be 3:07:43.840 --> 3:07:47.480 there for each other. That's what we need. That's what 3:07:47.600 --> 3:07:51.520 I want for my brother, That's what what I want. 3:07:52.080 --> 3:07:55.000 That's what I want for for for for Draking Pusha, 3:07:56.160 --> 3:08:01.360 That's what I want for you name it. All the 3:08:01.440 --> 3:08:03.280 people that got good in their heart. Man, you saw 3:08:03.840 --> 3:08:06.880 God's plan. You know who Drake is. You know what 3:08:06.879 --> 3:08:09.520 I'm saying. And if you look at them, and if 3:08:09.560 --> 3:08:11.119 you and if you look at and if you look 3:08:11.200 --> 3:08:15.200 at what Pusha has done for like Virginia, like you 3:08:15.280 --> 3:08:18.920 know what the funk he is like, we gotta we 3:08:19.120 --> 3:08:23.360 have to unify all the good willingness that we have 3:08:23.440 --> 3:08:25.960 in our hearts. That's what we need to unify. And 3:08:26.040 --> 3:08:28.320 I know people of partly listening to be like funk that, 3:08:28.600 --> 3:08:32.320 but listen, after everything I've been through and all the 3:08:32.400 --> 3:08:34.640 sessions I've been in, and the people that I've encountered, 3:08:34.680 --> 3:08:36.560 and the people who have enlightened me and taken me 3:08:36.680 --> 3:08:39.880 to a two different places and different heights, this is 3:08:40.120 --> 3:08:42.800 this is my result. This is my son. If you 3:08:42.879 --> 3:08:44.800 ask me, if I add up everything I've ever done 3:08:44.840 --> 3:08:49.040 in my life, from listening to my parents to get 3:08:49.720 --> 3:08:55.680 my wife, my kids, my family, listen is God is 3:08:55.760 --> 3:08:57.600 the greatest and we got to be loyal to that. Bro. 3:08:58.440 --> 3:09:03.960 Also got to ask you the same question cut you 3:09:06.560 --> 3:09:12.480 Lee super thuck. If you cut me, and this is 3:09:12.520 --> 3:09:16.640 where I know I need to sign off Christmas. If 3:09:16.680 --> 3:09:21.200 you cut me right now, what will come? Who'sin't out 3:09:21.240 --> 3:09:29.879 of my my body? My God is different? Got them? 3:09:36.040 --> 3:09:45.040 My God? God got need some gutting family, you know, 3:09:45.240 --> 3:09:50.640 being down down the left tunes from the beginning, How 3:09:50.720 --> 3:09:53.119 does it feel like, you know to see this guy 3:09:53.320 --> 3:09:57.040 and this a Luxuria's a beautiful position that he is 3:09:58.640 --> 3:10:02.160 and use an artist, I won't be Yeah, yeah, to 3:10:02.320 --> 3:10:06.920 be honest, this is my brother, man, Like what's good 3:10:06.959 --> 3:10:10.320 form is good for me? Just dead like as he grow, 3:10:10.640 --> 3:10:14.240 I learned what makes some Graham made me happy. This's 3:10:14.280 --> 3:10:17.440 my brother. So it's like, I'm happy man. I love 3:10:17.520 --> 3:10:19.760 to see what he is. And I sat from the 3:10:19.840 --> 3:10:21.560 music and all the stuff you're doing. That's really like 3:10:21.680 --> 3:10:32.880 my brother. So I'm happy. God, this was great. I'm gonna. 3:10:32.959 --> 3:10:47.560 I'm gonna respectfully cow tow no. Thanks for joining us 3:10:47.600 --> 3:10:50.200 for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours Truly, 3:10:50.360 --> 3:10:52.920 d J E, F F and n R E. Please 3:10:52.959 --> 3:10:55.160 make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's 3:10:55.160 --> 3:10:58.760 add Drink Champs across all platforms. At the Real Noriagan 3:10:58.879 --> 3:11:02.760 i g. 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