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Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect

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Speaker 1: and I heart Radio and his Drink chas motherfucking podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's see it's your boy

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Speaker 1: in O R He's a Miami hip hop and mioneer

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Speaker 1: is d j e f N. Together they drink it

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Speaker 1: up with some of the biggest players in the most professional,

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Speaker 1: unprofessional podcast and yet number one source for drunk fast

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Speaker 1: drinks motherfuckings New Year's e. That's time for Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Trick up, motherfuck mother would a good being, hopefully super

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Speaker 1: This is your boy in O R E. What up

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Speaker 1: is dj e FN And this is Miller Tammy Crazy Bold.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep saying that Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: drinks as motherfucker happy hour makes some Now, when we

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Speaker 1: started this show, we said we wanted to do legends only.

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Speaker 1: So this brother that's standing in front of me, for me,

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Speaker 1: is the best producer of all times, all times. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. This is our Quincy Jones. I see him

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Speaker 1: see music. I've seen him come into a session and

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Speaker 1: just say yo and just change it and just this

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Speaker 1: session become turquoise or purple and it just changed. The

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Speaker 1: man has. He's a producer. There's people that make beats

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Speaker 1: and there's people that produce. This is the producers producer.

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Speaker 1: Then he's verged on into being an artist and he

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Speaker 1: conquered dad and he he can work from anybody to

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Speaker 1: an r A to Madonna and make it make The

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Speaker 1: man is like Jesus. He walks on water and I

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Speaker 1: don't see the pillow cases gone. In case you don't

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Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the incredible,

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Speaker 1: the impeccable for brown. Motherfucking Now, I purposely didn't look

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Speaker 1: at you when I was saying that, because I know

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Speaker 1: how humble you are. You know, I know if for

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Speaker 1: twenty years. I know how humble you are. But you

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Speaker 1: are to certain people, fucking to certain people you are

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Speaker 1: to me, I want the best producer of all time.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, I've worked with everyone. This is me,

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Speaker 1: me and my career. Um, you're you're the best producer

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Speaker 1: I've ever worked with. Well, first of all, let me

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Speaker 1: just say that I am. I'm you guys can hear me? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm wearing my mask because I got nineteen kids

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Speaker 1: and my parents are approaching seventies. So you know, we

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Speaker 1: all tested it, but I'm just my wife testing everybody say,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's like, let's do it. That's how I poured

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Speaker 1: you off. For us, we still got to do it.

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Speaker 1: Back to pouring you off. But being that you're not

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Speaker 1: going to drink a spade are you're not gonna drink it?

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Speaker 1: Because you know jay Z personally acts, would you get

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Speaker 1: you high and some space? So if you're not keep

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Speaker 1: picking with your bottle, actually drink why not the penguin?

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Speaker 1: I already know what got damn I already knew what

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Speaker 1: good damn it. But okay, so I wanted to say

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, um uh, congratulations on you know, the

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Speaker 1: continuation of your career. Um. And when I say continuation,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're all pluralist. And somehow, when you're in

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Speaker 1: the music industry, they convince you to only focus on

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Speaker 1: want you to pay attention to their interest. And eventually,

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Speaker 1: you know, the the the the the people in senior

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Speaker 1: leadership positions of these companies recognize that these other potential

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Speaker 1: revenue streams for these artists could also be you know,

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Speaker 1: contributors to the marketing to their partnership. Um, but you

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Speaker 1: saw this early, you were on this early. I remember

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Speaker 1: when you were talking to me about it, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm thinking about going into this thing,

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Speaker 1: Like I got this idea, I got this concept always

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Speaker 1: have a camera. I didn't know why you always have

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Speaker 1: first to do that, and and and you stayed focused

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Speaker 1: until you realize exactly how you could, like you know,

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Speaker 1: grow the audience and monetize it. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: a that's beautiful. And I want to also say that

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Speaker 1: I am grateful that you would even you know that

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Speaker 1: I'm you even want to have me on more because

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Speaker 1: I think you guys, you guys talk about things that

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Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, you bring interesting guests

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Speaker 1: I've always been like that about myself, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: thank you beginning than in the beginning, that's when I

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Speaker 1: googled you, which you know your person. I shouldn't have

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Speaker 1: to google, but I wanted to do my research thoroughly.

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Speaker 1: So it said early nineties. Now, when they say early nineties,

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Speaker 1: in with Teddy and uh people. Yeah, Teddy Riley, you

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Speaker 1: know he did you know the Dangerous album. He did

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Speaker 1: a lot of songs on a Dangerous album with Michael.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's Teddy is a legend. Um it takes two.

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Speaker 1: I mean the show, Yeah, the show with Dougie Fresh

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Speaker 1: rig like he's yeah, yeah, yeah, guy Black Street, He's

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Speaker 1: I could just keep going on with this guy. The

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Speaker 1: guy did Johnny Kimps just got paid. Or you want

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Speaker 1: whatever you want, it's whatever you we live in your world. Brother,

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Speaker 1: you want some Swan Swan tequila? You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with the sense sah,

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Speaker 1: we don't know how to open that, but we'll figure

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Speaker 1: so when they say early nineties, Our first thing that

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Speaker 1: we ever did was Tonights Tonight for Black Street. Whoa

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Speaker 1: and then um and that was That was written by

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Speaker 1: Tammy Lucas, who was on that. Yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: She's the reason why Teddy paid attention to us. By

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Speaker 1: you gotta pay attention to these guys. Wow. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: rumor is that you guys ghost produced. That's the rumor.

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Speaker 1: The truth is, my first time meeting Teddy, it was

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Speaker 1: like eleven o'clock at night, which this is when I

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Speaker 1: world to me. That's that's when Teddy showed me like

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Speaker 1: there was a nocturnal world of creativity. I never knew that, right.

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Speaker 1: they would work that way. Yeah, yeah, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: a very real thing. Thank you your brother. Um and

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Speaker 1: then um, so I put the record. I don't know

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Speaker 1: No no, no, I no know know tonight tonight. And

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Speaker 1: I'm saying but but before tonight tonight, my first time

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Speaker 1: meeting Teddy, he was working on rum Shaker. It was

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Speaker 1: with zoom zoom zoom. They had everything. I Kill had

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Speaker 1: put his first down, markl had his verse down, and

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Speaker 1: Teddy was like, yo, you know, can you know? Can

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Speaker 1: you can you you? I heard you wrap? It was

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Speaker 1: like yeah, He's like, can you write my verse for me?

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, rapp your verse? All

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Speaker 1: right right? Right? Yeah? He said can you write my

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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, this is breaking news for us

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Speaker 1: room was you made the beat, so that's where the

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Speaker 1: people people mistake that, But no, I could never I

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Speaker 1: could have never made that beat. That beat with like

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Speaker 1: that beat transcended genres to me. You know, we don't

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Speaker 1: know if you knew. Our show was about saluting our brothers.

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Speaker 1: So we want to salute you. Salute you, my brother,

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Speaker 1: because you know all motherfucking vampire boy did all this.

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Speaker 1: We love you. So you wrote Teddy's verse. Let's take

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Speaker 1: it from there boom. Then what happened on a Classic

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Speaker 1: Records that's still to this day bumps. And then now

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Speaker 1: this is your your because would you produce all artists? First?

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Speaker 1: That was my next where we were we were just

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Speaker 1: self contained artists. You know what I'm saying, you can

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Speaker 1: do it all. Listen. You know what I love this

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Speaker 1: is like so like this is like so thug, super thug,

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Speaker 1: barbershop ship, people got all masks, people smoking weeds, you

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Speaker 1: can we're smoking to drinking that you were contained. We're

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Speaker 1: definitely here. By the way, why the only weirdos ever

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Speaker 1: want to mask in them? So far? Okay, don't Okay?

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Speaker 1: When you're your family listening drink. So was that your

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Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? Like it's it's cool? And

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Speaker 1: I was like no, now, and now come on, let's

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Speaker 1: just let me. I'm gonna tell you my side. Do

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Speaker 1: you tell me yours? This is gonna be a little

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Speaker 1: long story, but just just sticking. I had just look

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Speaker 1: He's driving all this crep. I'm I'm I'm good, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not y'all real good. So I go do a

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Speaker 1: know if you know the part. But Leo Cohens comes

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Speaker 1: and he plays it and it's me with my boys

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Speaker 1: says it's popcorn. And I never looked at popcorner is

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Speaker 1: He said, he said, I want to tell you a story, Nori.

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Speaker 1: So he said, if I cut you, what would you bleed?

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Speaker 1: So I said, I would bleed blood, he said, And

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Speaker 1: Let's take a shot of that. What is it called?

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Speaker 1: When you first introduced me, you said super kind things,

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Speaker 1: I could never ever be compared. And I knew it was.

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Speaker 1: he was as a renowned um on the gospel world,

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Speaker 1: was a renowned organist and pianist. They played for a

423
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Speaker 1: lot of churches and at some point, you know, it

424
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: was his calling to also become a pastor, and he

425
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: became a bishop. And I just thought, man, if he

426
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: has all of that talent and was known previously as

427
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: being this great, you know musician, that his choir needed

428
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: to be amazing. And Hampton Rhodes has so much talent

429
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: that we wanted to make sure that we gave them

430
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: a platform to build the you know, a great choir

431
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: that pulled from all of you know, Newport News, Hampton,

432
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Speaker 1: Newport News, Hampton, Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Poor Smith, um Chesapeake,

433
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: Suffolk to pull them all in to get the best

434
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: people who could arguably all sing lead if they wanted to,

435
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: but have to work within the confines of being a

436
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: choir and not being the one to sing the lead.

437
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: So being so good that you're able to be humble

438
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: and can be part of something bigger than yourself. So

439
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: that was Voices of Fire. That's beautiful. So I want

440
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: to go back to this thing. God is the greatest

441
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: man God, And I'm not I'm not perfect, I'm not sinless,

442
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: but I know when I look over, like I used

443
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: to say it on all my like like a lot

444
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: of a lot of my career, like, man, why me?

445
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: Like how did I get here? I know you've questioned,

446
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you have as well. But the key

447
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: is is because I think I think the universe puts

448
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: us in this position because they because it knows that

449
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: we're going to give back. It knows that we are

450
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: gonna take our experiences and share the codes where the

451
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: other brothers and sisters. And that's the reason why, you know,

452
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: maybe somebody else might not have wanted to share the codes.

453
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: And you know that in the music industry where you

454
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: see some people doing well, other people not. And it's

455
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: only until you start feeling lucky that someone pulls you

456
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: to the side and gives you the code, Like, why

457
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: should we feel Lucky's branch Avenci positive energy? Positive Avencie

458
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: sometimes positive energy. Why why why should we feel lucky

459
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: that our brother or our sisters sharing the cod That's

460
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: something wrong with the culture, you know what I'm saying.

461
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: So for me, I know it's my duty. I know

462
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm not just having these experiences because my own glorification,

463
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: on my own enjoyment. It's because I'm meant to share

464
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: the codes, and we're getting the shot of purple rain,

465
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: and we just got to continue to do that. We

466
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: got to share the cod. MA don't got to have

467
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: colds got so I want to know the shot of

468
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: purple rain. Got THEAMN. I don't know what it is.

469
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even ask what it is. No, it's just

470
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it has tequila in there. But that there's

471
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: a there's a natural flower that turns the purple. M hmm.

472
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm bouncing around a little bit right now. We got

473
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: the human race, yes, sir, okay, you got they got

474
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: skin cream too. Yeah, that is that cold human race

475
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so this sneakers apparel human race, right,

476
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: and then skincare. By the way, we got a box, fring.

477
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: You got a boxing damn it? Can we can? We

478
00:27:54,760 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: bring it out? Hut me and my wife remember my

479
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: right right there, we're gonna do some STI kid gotta

480
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: damn it. You're gonna do it. A looks beautiful your filming, filming, Okay, okay,

481
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: can you open it so? I want you? Okay, alright, cool,

482
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm not a good opening. Yeah yeah, I'm not a

483
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: good Give him his gift. We got some gifts too.

484
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: We're sunny d We got to gift from you too.

485
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: Goddamn holy ship. All I can take the tape off right,

486
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: all right, cool, all right, boom, all right, now when

487
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: you got the campus, zoom in on it. Thank you,

488
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. This this is too fly. You

489
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This is double box. You know

490
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Come on, okay, we'll help me out

491
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: this way at leave your dominican. Dominican is not to

492
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: open every give it to him. You've been rags, bring

493
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: some much whatever it is. It looks beautiful. Good yeah,

494
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: and it's stuff right here too as well. And look

495
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: it's another box. It's like the Russian dead. Look at

496
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: that you focus it on that? Yo? Yeah, holy shit.

497
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: So this is so elegant. It's just like I feel

498
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: like I'm opening the g Q box you and thank

499
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: you and then give given. So here's the thing. Okay,

500
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: So that's right here. Oh, this out, This is made

501
00:29:51,360 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 1: in Japan. This is ye, this right here, and then

502
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: this right here shows you like where to put it.

503
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: This goes in your room. So that's your rice pot

504
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: of cleanser. Wow, this is your exfoliator that has an

505
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: ah callic acid in it, and it also has the

506
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: lotus enzyme in there and that helps like exfoliate. And

507
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: then it's the humidifying thing which also has a snow

508
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: must room in it, which locks in. Noister, this is

509
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: what's gonna go in y'all bathroom, says goddamn god me two.

510
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: Much like eating the massage, but no reason. Come on, yeah,

511
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: come on because the lead put it back together. Need

512
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: to please. I want to put it in my cock.

513
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: Come on, this is this. Let me take my shot.

514
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: Let me take my shot. You did you hit your

515
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: burger brain? Oh yeah? And the super doc o g short,

516
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta gotta go. That's I'm sorry, man,

517
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: we love you for over here. Sorry, sorry, we love

518
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: you now. I know I'm bouncing around a little bit. Yeah,

519
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: but you got a chance to work with Snoop Dogg

520
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: is after Snoop had went through his termorial with death

521
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Row and then uh he went to No Limit and

522
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: then after that, you got a chance to work with Snoop.

523
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: How how was that for you? So? I think I'm

524
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: trying to remember, and I'm really sorry if my memory

525
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: is not serving me correctly. But I think when we

526
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: did church to the Palace and Beautiful, I think that was.

527
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I think that was on No Limit. Yeah, Okay, I'm

528
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: not I'm not sure. I think that was. Yeah, I

529
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: think that was. Yeah, come on, how's you just sitting around?

530
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Come on, I'm sitting around thinking like you limits? Still

531
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: that was? Yeah. I didn't feel like it might not

532
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: have been it was right after that because there was

533
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: the one with Snoops Beautiful. I felt like that was

534
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: right after he left No Limit. Okay, maybe it was, Hey,

535
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: but we got Google. We got we can't Google will

536
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: tell us we can't guess. Yeah, let it shine, let

537
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: it shine. Make sure you got that on camera? Oh man, Nah,

538
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: thank you? Come on, I didn't even intend that. I

539
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to present it to you. Let us Shoine

540
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: baby come on, just be here. Mm hmm. Wasn't that

541
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: the one that was on the limit? That album Polly Graham, Well,

542
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: that's what he made. He became like an executive problem

543
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: and he re released all those albums. But I guess

544
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: my question is to be a little sorry about that?

545
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Is um, you know this is this is a legend, right,

546
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: He's worked with Dr Dre, He's working with all these

547
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: other people. Is that pressures for you to produce, do

548
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: something more? Or like what do you do like me

549
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: in a situation like that? You know? I think pressure

550
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: comes from um, from uh the idea of of of

551
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: having to face the idea or the notion that you

552
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: could fail. Right, And there's a lot of time that

553
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that spend a lot of

554
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: time doing that. And as I said to you before

555
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: we're from Virginia, I never lost that feeling like, man,

556
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: what I get a chance to work with Snoop? The

557
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: only thing I'm focused on and on is how crazy

558
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: it could be. And my only job is to try

559
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: to match what I'm doing with that feeling of man.

560
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: You're not crazy, this could be. That's when I knew,

561
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: just for a second, that's when I knew, like nothing

562
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: was not where they needed to be until we got

563
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: to that place and I was like, no, do you understand, Like, Yo,

564
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: we did super Thunder, we gotta and we did no

565
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: exactly were fun right, and then even some of our

566
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: like other records that weren't even singles are good, like

567
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: we just we had joints like one of our underrated ones.

568
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: And then we'll go back to to to to big

569
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: bro snoop is um no, I'm a I'm a g Yeah,

570
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's pure. I was overweighted that time.

571
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: I didn't translate in the video when the people see

572
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: me in the video, I didn't look believable. I was

573
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,479
Speaker 1: just overweight. I was stressed out. So it's my fault

574
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: that record didn't work. I'mna be honest, I'm taking that one.

575
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying that one because like I mean, it

576
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: was it was translated because you know who picked that record.

577
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: L A read el A. We hand picked that record.

578
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm going to bat for this record,

579
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: but it was was. I was just so I was

580
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: dealing with so much at the time, I couldn't focus

581
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: on me. So the record was great. But like I

582
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: told that to Buster, I was like, Yo, this time,

583
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: you know what what I'm Busters? I'm sorry my all

584
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: over the place. But Buster's album he has the look

585
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: and the records. Sometimes you have the look and you

586
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: won't have the record. Sometimes you have the records, and

587
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: that's what do you enjoy Busters this album? Man, I'm

588
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: so happy for him. See directing these videos for Buss. Yeah,

589
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: that's what's so happy for him, bro, because he's doing

590
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: what he want to do now he want to do it,

591
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: and he's saying all the ship he want to say,

592
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: and by the way, he continues to reinvent himself every time.

593
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: You're definitely happy for Big Bro. Man. I enjoyed it,

594
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: so let's get back too. So with Snoop, it was like, Man,

595
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: he came in on his tour bus and uh, you know,

596
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, just give me that ship and

597
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and uh you know, uh he

598
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: would we're working in there, and then like once I

599
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: was ready, he would come down off his tour bus.

600
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: Because we were still working in um Master Sound at

601
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: the time was Hovercraft were with chat and I brought

602
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: the studio and he when he came in, we did

603
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: Church the Palace. He loved that, and he really loved Beautiful.

604
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get beautiful. I didn't get Beautiful

605
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: mainly because I was on there singing flat as fuck

606
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and um just just didn't hear it. I thought it

607
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: was a fun record for Charlie Wilson, and I was like, man,

608
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: Charlie sounding amazing, and this feels good to me, but

609
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: no one's ever gonna go for this. So yeah, so

610
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: I thought Church the Palace because it was harder. And

611
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: then when that record popped, I was like, wow, you

612
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: know and and and and Snooze always been that guy

613
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: that's like, yo, take me there, I trust you. Then

614
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: you could tell that he worked with a season you know,

615
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: a really seasoned genius producer who was really the really

616
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: our generation's greatest producer of all time is Dr track two.

617
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's sorry, man, I got you number one, Bro,

618
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: just let go, letting you go, letting go. But Dr

619
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: Dre is like man, Dr Dre Bro, but we respect him,

620
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: of course, we love him. But um but um um

621
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Snoop was just like snoop. You know what, my our

622
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: greatest rap records are always when I'm in the studio

623
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: with someone who's a personality, and you guys were always

624
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: like personalities. I didn't get a chance to work with

625
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: Capone when I first met you, Capone and just he

626
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: had gotten locked up already. See that's just something like that.

627
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: It's a beat, the beat for you to make the

628
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: introduce you. You got some perfect ring because I'm taking

629
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: another shot. I got you want a little bit more

630
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: purple on purplein. I ain't gonna lie, I'm doing the

631
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Swan and ordering purple rain. This is this is look,

632
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot. He taking a whole glass. I

633
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: ain't allow. I'm turning this into a shot, solid, solidtle finish. Um.

634
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: That's it good. That's why I wish you didn't tell

635
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: me it was the killer in there, because it's so good.

636
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: I might so now I'm gonna be careful because I

637
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: hate to kill. You only get to tequila when you

638
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: just want your energy to be turned up. But I

639
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: hate to taste. I can't taste it. This is why

640
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: this is that swan. That's swine um. And you know

641
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: for me, like I just feel like characters are always

642
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: the ones that, like I'm able to give context to

643
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, Mona Lisa was a character, but Da Vinci

644
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: was able to put the track behind her that made

645
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: her face. Makes sense with that because if you take that,

646
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: if you get her out of the photo and just

647
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: look at the backdrop, it's like some rolling hills, a

648
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: little bit of water. Big deal. But it was perfect

649
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: for her, right And That's what I've always enjoyed as

650
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: a musician. Chat and I is too. You know, we

651
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: did what it is right now. For Buster, I would

652
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: have never been able to make that beat if it

653
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: weren't for him, If Buster wouldn't have walked in the

654
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: end the studio with that energy, and I had made

655
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: it for him. But that's just like yep, and you

656
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 1: know you super thug. It's like Malik was was really

657
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: good friends with Rob Walker and he was like, yeah,

658
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: this guy gnor to check them out, And I knew

659
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: who you were because of blood Money. When I heard

660
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: blood Money, I did not understand, like, because there's not

661
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: too many like the thuggish characters who are really dedicated

662
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: to being a character as much as they're dedicated to

663
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: being a thug. There's you, there's Cameron. You know, there's

664
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: just different guys. You know, there are new guys that

665
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: I like today that I felt like they're going to

666
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: character and like I just really love what they do

667
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: and their verbs are great, but it's the the idea

668
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: that they're willing to go there. The baby has that,

669
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, black youngster has that, you know what I'm saying,

670
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Like they're going to they stayed the character the whole time.

671
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: A Black youngster TikTok is this is as funny, entertaining

672
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: and as hard as his song. No but I see it,

673
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And people don't know the

674
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: baby been around for a while. Yes, man, I remember

675
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: b t was years ago. Like he's like really, he's

676
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: like really a character. He's dedicated to that. You know

677
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Nellie, it's another one like more people

678
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: don't know. More Real was very real and he stayed

679
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: in that character the whole time. Band Aid under the eye.

680
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, God to doing the dance,

681
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: doing this. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like, but

682
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: those kind of guys, Snoop is one of them. I

683
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: know I digressed a bit, but I wanted to make

684
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: the sense, make the picture like, there's a reason you

685
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: mentioned him because there's him you uh, but we supposed

686
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: to focus on him. I'm sorry to cut you off.

687
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: There's my kind of focus on him is because he

688
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: had his whole aluxious career prior to you. So that's

689
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking, is like, Yo, are you thinking like

690
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: you you're gonna mess this up? I'm gonna I'm not

691
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: gonna break a less record than you. Know what? I mean?

692
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: What he what he's done with Dr Dre is that.

693
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is no way. I'm like, man,

694
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: I want to do whatever it takes to add to that.

695
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: And I know what, Mike, I know what my ultimate

696
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: competition was. I knew I had to make something that

697
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: felt as good, not better, but as good as one

698
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: seven on that the cover come as I glided through

699
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: the called me Snoop Eastwood. You're like that, what this is?

700
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: What a lot of people don't know how much of

701
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: a hip hop person you like? You really are? Like,

702
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, And I would think that's the most

703
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: is it? Would you say it's important to maintain that fandom,

704
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: to be creative with these people, Yes, man, listen, Hey.

705
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: When I first heard this is won't too long ago.

706
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to tell you these moments that

707
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: when I feel it and I just fall over and

708
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: I can't do anything with myself but just roll over

709
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: and just die over and over again. When I heard

710
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: Gucci mains peeping out the blinds? Have you heard that song?

711
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: Find at these niggas, Find at these niggas, find out

712
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: these niggas outside, I feel like Malcolm maxic people and

713
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: all the blinds, It's gonna be fine hunting niggas. Sorry,

714
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: when I'm feeling not finding these niggas firing and the

715
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: siren and finding these niggas outshine, I feel like Malcolm

716
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: makes some people and the blinds he's gonna be has

717
00:42:53,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: done its own shot. Who your man now? Click cleck what?

718
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god? No, no man down? Click clack? Who

719
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: your man now? I know you're heard about gut your man.

720
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. You guys have to hear that. You know,

721
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: when I get to that place, You're not it's nothing,

722
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: It's it's over. It's like the first time I heard

723
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: juveniles ha, oh my god. You know the first time

724
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: I heard juven I was in New Orleans. I was.

725
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: I was in there doing the Puerto Rican show at

726
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: that in New Orleans. It's the weirdest ship ever, Like

727
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: you got Puerto Ricans. Yeah, yeah, So what was your

728
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: what is that first experience? Like when you hear other

729
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: when you hear other people records and it is dope,

730
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: do you say I wish I could have made that

731
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: or do you say, what did you I get the

732
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: first of the record that you ever heard? You said,

733
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: I wish I would have made that better question? Oh

734
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: my god, there's so many one off top trial called

735
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: quest Lyrics to Go. Damn. I knew he was gonna

736
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: go to drive. I just Lyrics to Go. I was

737
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: at Tammy Lucas's house. Me g new Cam we bought

738
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: that ship for the first time. We was over there

739
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: listening to that ship and Shay was over there. We died.

740
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: We died, We died. We all of us died. We

741
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: died for like, it's dope. We died, okay, So and

742
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Bro gotta drunk. You died, come back and something's amazing.

743
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, you died. And then like and then

744
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: bro when he said ship like fan when he says like, um,

745
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: you know when people are boxing and you know, somebody

746
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: is drunk and they're boby get knocked out. Be l

747
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: Now he did, he did, he did. He was saying, oh,

748
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: he's in the cough okay. And or when someone's been

749
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: drinking too much and you know they just finished for

750
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: the night, like he's dead. He did a couple of times.

751
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: And then when it's real bag, you're like, yo, he

752
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: in the coffin, No bro, come get him here in

753
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: the coffin. When it's real bag, to be like, yo, maggots.

754
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: He's maggots right now, he's maggot, Come get them. But

755
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: that's not we but we but we find that comical

756
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: because you see a person that and they in the

757
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: mix and it's like you already know they're about to

758
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: have another rough twenty four hours of waking up crazy

759
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: hangover just finished. So we just you know, So there's

760
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: two kind of contexts of using the word dying and dead.

761
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: We try to stay away from the third one. Yeah yeah, Amene, Yeah,

762
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: you've always been a guy. It's always been like woman

763
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: is around all the time. Yeah, how do you develop that? Man?

764
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: I think women are the greatest gift to us. Um,

765
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: they actually give us life. You know, I don't understand

766
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: hating women in any way, shape or form, because that's

767
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: forgetting where you actually come from. Every last human being

768
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: walking around here came from a woman, unless you came

769
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: out of a test tube. And you know, God bless you.

770
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: But other than that, like other than that, like I

771
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: don't know where to go. But right, I mean right,

772
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: all of us come from that amazing silver lining of

773
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: an elevator through the conduit of a woman's body. So

774
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: how could you not how could you hate on what

775
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: gave you life? You know what I'm saying. And the

776
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: other thing is like I say this all the time,

777
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: you know, you know, man, we'll never know what it's

778
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: like to be a woman because once a month they

779
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: go through some ship that will never be able to understand.

780
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: And they got to keep a smile in their face,

781
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: and they got to continue to deliver. They got to

782
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: continue to work. They kind come to work and talk

783
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: to you about what they what what what what? In

784
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: the Native American culture they call the moon. They can't

785
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: talk about when they go through their moon or through

786
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: their cycle or whatever. They got to just do what

787
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: they do. I will never know. Can you imagine feeling

788
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: like shit for three or four or five six days,

789
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: and you still got to perform all thirty days of

790
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: the month and thirty one days of the month, um.

791
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: And then and then and then. The other thing that

792
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: we'll never know the burden of being a woman is well,

793
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: there's lots of them, right, like societal burdens that they

794
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: get put through. They don't even get paid the same

795
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: of us. Like it's like you, we couldn't even imagine

796
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: that's a real Still it's like seventy cents on the

797
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: man's dollar. Yeah. So like but then and that's a

798
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: lot of them, right. I'm not talking about you know,

799
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 1: women like Caryl Sandberg who they supersede, but even she

800
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: could just tell you, like she goes through things, through

801
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: things as well, or like you know our new vice

802
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: president elect, um, you know Harris, you know Kamala Harris,

803
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: Like she could tell you things that she's going through, um,

804
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: even in the highest position like one of the leaders

805
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: of the free world. But the other thing that women

806
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: do too, man, is they bring life into this world.

807
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: They literally hold onto life. Like we don't as men,

808
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: we don't know what that's like. We gotta do ship

809
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: they keep doing stuff while they're carrying life in their bodies.

810
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: Like my wife literally had four heartbeats and her body

811
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: at one time because she had triplets, for god, right,

812
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: so she grew through sets three sets of organs and

813
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: her body while she had her own set of organs.

814
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: So literally, my wife had four heartbeats going on at once.

815
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: It's amazing, you know. So it's like it's it's just

816
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: my my my feeling for women. I love them from

817
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: a from a lovely place, I loved them from a

818
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: lustful place. I love them all the way around, and

819
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: I just you know, they've always been a huge more

820
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: vational force for my music. You know, there's always that.

821
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: There's always like women were always the concern like, Okay,

822
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: what are the girl's gonna think, you know when they

823
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: hit its beata, how they're gonna feel when they hear

824
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: this this this melody or you know what I'm saying.

825
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: So that's really the reason why I've always just happened

826
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: in the beginning, like you know, from from Super Dog on,

827
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: when we would play records or you will play records back,

828
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't play a record unless a woman was in

829
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: the second. You would be like your hold on nor

830
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: like like like no, no, no, let's just just make

831
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: sure like you always wanted a woman's opinion. And that's

832
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: the reason why I knew Super Doug would work with

833
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: the woman. I don't know if you remember, but Super,

834
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: my album was done. I'm gonna get to the first

835
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: thing I met. My album was done. And you said

836
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: to me, you can't your album is not done, like

837
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: you're cocky in the beginning, like like in the beginning,

838
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm trying to tell you, Like

839
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: you look at me like it was like, no, you're

840
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: not closing your album. Your album is not closed. And

841
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: I was like I didn't know how to you know,

842
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: what's it called re forecast? Like I learned that later,

843
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: and you was like, this is this is the greatest story, right,

844
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: not this part. This part of it's a part of

845
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: the embarrassing. You know where it was that sound on

846
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: sound studios? Oh my god. And I remember because Biggie

847
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: used to go upstairs. A lot of people thought Biggie

848
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: recorded and um bad boy, but around the corner from

849
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: bad Way one block over. Remember it was on forty

850
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: four uh Daddy's house, excuse me, and was sound on

851
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: sound It's the first day I met you, I walked in.

852
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: You quoted me quote the Bloody Money, brough the room,

853
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: quote the Bloody Money to me, and I was like wow.

854
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: And then as soon as you finish, you said, but

855
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't have one thug bone in my body. I said,

856
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: I like this guy. He's rare, and then you said yeah.

857
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: I was not closed though, and I said, so if

858
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: you remember at the end of Super Dug, I'm actually

859
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: saying in a R E Nori the remix, because this

860
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: is actually going to use it as the remix to

861
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: know r E. Because I was trying to do a

862
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: big deal, but one more chance and one more like

863
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: And what happened was we played the record too too

864
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: to these NYC DJs. Oh, let me just I think

865
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: it was all DJs, and you know what everyone said

866
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: because they didn't understand that that tune sound at the time.

867
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: All looked at us in our face and said, this

868
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: is too dark of a record. Next, let me get

869
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: to it. So listen they I'm sitting there because the

870
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: record that we want to go with band from TV

871
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like, we gotta go with Super Thug. And

872
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: we played it for all these people. They said, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

873
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: do y'all understand what band from TV was? Does everybody

874
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: know who was on that? Do people really understand? Yo?

875
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Do people really? I know? I I don't want to.

876
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: I just want to just take a hold on a second.

877
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Do y'all understand how crazy band from TV is? First

878
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: of all, the title alone and people don't know like

879
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: the actual band from TV like at that time? Let

880
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: me tell you so, did DJ say the record is

881
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: too dark? Meaning like it's gonna work at a tunnel

882
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: And that'sh it. So that's the reason why if you

883
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 1: if you look at Super Dug video, there's not one

884
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: night time shot in the video. We shot the whole

885
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: ship in the daytime. We did. We shot the whole

886
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: it was too dark. They swear to god, I should

887
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: have clapped that goddamn But it was the whole And

888
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: it was crazy because because that record spoke to us

889
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: in the South immediately. Yeah, I had no idea, like

890
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: like I was decided because to me, that was a

891
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: South record. I'm like, oh, yeah, you always told me that.

892
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: He always told me he made the South record, And

893
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: I was like, really, I never understood that. Virginia's like,

894
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm clear to David sound well. Just to be clear

895
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 1: and not to get political, but Richmond is the capital

896
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: of Virginia, but Richmond was also the capital of the control. Right.

897
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: So I get to this point and I'll break it

898
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: down because you gave me two like I got ten

899
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: top phone calls of my life and you're tool. I

900
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: don't know who called you and told you that they

901
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: were throwing cheers. Yes, but then you called me and

902
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: said strict this phenomena and I was like, what are

903
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: you talking about. He's like, they can't play in the club,

904
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: they don't cares. The greatest calls I ever when you

905
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: called me and he was like, this is it's really

906
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: like you just I was like wow, because you gotta

907
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: remember I listen. I was supposed to go into a

908
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: deeper story with my father, but I didn't want to

909
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: do that. But so you remember that called when you

910
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: called me, was like they're throwing cheers, bro. I remember that.

911
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember that call specifically, but I remember that time,

912
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: and I remember that feeling. I remember Rob Walker calling me,

913
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: going yo yo. They played the record in such and

914
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: such and such. It was first time, first time. I

915
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: guess that's where I don't know if it was there,

916
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: but he was like, they played it in such and such.

917
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: He was like, yo, and they had to turn the

918
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: record off. They kept playing it back to back and

919
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: after a while, like they got like everybody was just

920
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: getting unruly and he was and he was like, yo,

921
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: niggas was throwing chairs and niggas are throwing chairs and

922
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: I'm like what. And that was like at the time,

923
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: like that's not a big deal to whoever. You know,

924
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: the kids that are listening now, they don't, they don't

925
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: understand you. But we were, we were changing the tide

926
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: of what what happened because honest, onest had a big

927
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: moment where they were mash pitting and things like that

928
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: as well. The only ones that we're doing right. But

929
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: then here comes this guy that comes from you know,

930
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: t O and Y and New York get the blood

931
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: money would that guy? That guy, that guy had violator blood.

932
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't just like with with all due love and respect.

933
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: He wasn't like just like a hood like Queen's Bridge Rapper.

934
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: He was actually met the people who owned Left Rack.

935
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: It was like really wild at the un Yeah, that yo,

936
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: that the product. I just blew my mind. I met

937
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: them at the u N and they were like, yeah,

938
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: such a left rack. I was like, met the like

939
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: but but but but but I'm just saying, you know,

940
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: I knew that you were a character when I heard

941
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: blood Money. So here we go with this song and

942
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: and and I felt like we had chatted. And also

943
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: said to me, you said just listen to me like that.

944
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: That's swear to God. And I was like, I am,

945
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I just was like, and it's crazy.

946
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: He was the exact opposite because I had a four

947
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: x on at the time. You remember, this was baggy

948
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: baggage and you came in with tight clothes from him. Again,

949
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: I was like, and for some reason, I just believe you.

950
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get to the story and then we're

951
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna bounce back. You gave me, made me two beats,

952
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: and I was on my way to Miami. This is

953
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: why the Marland Hotel is always significant. So you said

954
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: this third beat, don't listen to it to you land

955
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: in Miami. And we landed in Miami the Kent Hotel.

956
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: Whatever promoter is, he was a foul person. Can come on,

957
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: I'll put you in the I'm not I'm not groundless.

958
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: Never let this up. But anyway, so I go upstairs,

959
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: and I remember they pooled us across the street from

960
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: across the street, so I go there and I remember,

961
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: I remember I played, so you played me the first

962
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: two ones and sound on sound if you said the

963
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: third one, don't listen to until you get to Miami.

964
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: So I got to the King Hotel, whatever, get upstairs.

965
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: I played at you and then you already had it. Man,

966
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: well Noriega. It was the first time a producer took

967
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: their time to make a beat for me. I don't

968
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: think you guys understand what the hell I'm trying to say.

969
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: Like this time, people just give you a beat and

970
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: if you like it, they'll just sell it to Cougie

971
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: Rap or sell it to you know whoever. Like when

972
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: I heard that ship, it blew my mind. You know,

973
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: I wrote that whole ship in like twenty minutes. I

974
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: was like, and I called you immediately. The only thing

975
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: I said I said because Tammy Lucas was saying yeah, yeah,

976
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, cause she's changed it to what

977
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 1: what he was like, tomorrow we'll do the right track.

978
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm flying back tomorrow. And I

979
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: flew back and that was that was probably like what

980
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: made you do that? Like what made you put that?

981
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: Because I swear to God I was. I was buying

982
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: the beat just because she said my name before we

983
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: was in the studio together. I was like, how did

984
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: you what's the whole story behind? Because I always told

985
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: my part, right, I definitely don't know your part when

986
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: you're presenting me that beat. And MC light told me

987
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: she had to beat once society told me he had

988
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: to be an artist that was on what's Lucas Nabor

989
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Sipping Side Sipping Side records? He said he heard that beat.

990
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I'm just saying I think

991
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: I made something for Light and we were definitely trying

992
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: to get because like looking at me was for B

993
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: B D. If you think, but they're looking at me,

994
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: that's for belvote. Yeah, I could hear that they passed

995
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: on it. I don't think that. I don't think that

996
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: it makes the time. Yes, but well look that's how

997
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: God worked though. Man. I may look um are the

998
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: queen Janet Jackson are siss? We made um slave for you?

999
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: And she actually recorded it, but she just didn't use it.

1000
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: And when she didn't use it, we gave it to

1001
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: Britney Spears. Wow. So I've been blessed with a lot

1002
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: of that, where like artists did not feel like something

1003
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: was for them, but it made sense for someone else.

1004
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: Gave me Outlaw for Nas. Remember that crazy outlaw I've

1005
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: brung it to Nas, y'all And I was like, I

1006
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: don't get it. Yeah, remember, yes, actually made that for

1007
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: not Yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you, bro, I don't know

1008
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: what happen my whole remember it because it was just crazy,

1009
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: because the crazy. It's crazy because I am such a

1010
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: I leaned forward so much that my chronology of things,

1011
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: like I told you, I thought maybe, like you know,

1012
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: Church to the Palace and Beautiful might have been on

1013
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: Um might have went on no limit and it was

1014
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: actually a priority. Sometimes I'll be I'll be mixing those

1015
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: things up. It wasn't the limit priority as well distributed

1016
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: it it was, it was, But I think they got smart.

1017
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: So that was one of my first my favorite. So

1018
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: did we finished the supertrug? I still want to know

1019
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: how that came to be? Did not? Thank you? So

1020
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: that time, at that time, we were still like we

1021
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: were making money, We were still making making music, you know,

1022
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: and Chad's moms and Chad's parents house. We still like,

1023
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: we just felt like I had a vibe in there,

1024
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: so we're going there and make new music. But they

1025
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: started getting too loud for his mom, and his mom

1026
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: was eventually starting to get six, so we had to

1027
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: like move up, you know, start just working purely in

1028
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: the studio. But there were times when we would go

1029
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: back in his mom's house and make music too, because

1030
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: we just felt like a big bottle of Man, do

1031
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: you mind you know this is that big because you

1032
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: were popping this big bottle? Yeah, listen, listen. Love the

1033
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: Big Bro. Loved the Big Bro, you know, you know

1034
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: the whole you know, he sent this personally, you know

1035
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. He wanted you to get you know

1036
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: what I mean. Goddamn it, I'm continuing stories. Wonderful um,

1037
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was Tammy was around. We was like

1038
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: making beats and stuff, and she would be there and

1039
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: sometimes she would hear things and she would sing on

1040
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: it and she heard that that what did you say

1041
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: it was at first? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1042
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Yes. Is the life y'all of a superstar?

1043
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, Well, no, Riega and the Philippines,

1044
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, this is nigga, my dj

1045
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: it's fun to Philippines is ill. I was like whatever

1046
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: Google that was like he googled the nigger like it

1047
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: wasn't Google. I was like yo, he said yo. I

1048
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: felt obligated, so I wrote the whole rhyme. I came

1049
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: back the right track and I laid the whole ship.

1050
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: You know, the what what's is how I counted bars

1051
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: that was never meant to be the told me. I

1052
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: was like, what what what what? You know? You know,

1053
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know that until like maybe ten years ago.

1054
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: You was like, listen, I remember laying because I didn't

1055
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: know how to punch in. You fucking young motherfucker's you

1056
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: your young motherfucker's with your punching. I didn't know how

1057
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: to punch in, bro, So I laid the whole ship,

1058
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: like straight, bro, I'm older than you though. By the way,

1059
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: seven damn godmn, you look at twenty seven. I'm gonna

1060
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: do this, goddam. By the way, this is the greatest,

1061
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: greatest session of my life. So that's the reason why

1062
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: I remember it. I don't remember sheh, but so I remember,

1063
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: and I just later I remember right track had the

1064
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: upstairs downstairs, so I think I ordered some food or

1065
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: something and you were just down there and I kept saying,

1066
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: you got I got the hook and he was like,

1067
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: I got the hook already. You would like just brushing

1068
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: me off. And I was like, alright, cool, I had

1069
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: no idea what you did with it. And I was

1070
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: just you just I just listened to you. It was

1071
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: just like fuck it. And I said, Yo, they're gonna

1072
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: laugh at me. And he said, this is your words.

1073
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: He said, and you're gonna laugh all the way to

1074
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: the bank. And I said, and you were right. And

1075
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: I had the number one record milbeb. He had much

1076
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: for Lil Bean the other day and he was like yo,

1077
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: bro like and he was telling me how he should

1078
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: have listened to me because I said yo. He was

1079
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: like he was saying, like he's like, yo, that sound

1080
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: at the time, like that's how they described the net

1081
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: tune sound at first, because I guess it was affiliated

1082
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: with me. They thinking you guys, because it's tough. They

1083
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: were saying, that's a dark sound, bro softest butter, I've

1084
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: never been a tough guy. But no, but you're right.

1085
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: There were times when people like yo, what's it'tn bro

1086
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: Little Wayne. Little Wayne took me around. We went to

1087
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: visit we were doing the show down there, and like

1088
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: he was a fan and he took us to UM

1089
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: this club down there and and it was the equivalent

1090
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: of being in d C. Like sometimes d C have

1091
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: you know what's what's what's what's what's bro name that?

1092
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: What's his name? Kevinn? What's his name? That do all

1093
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: the like d C clubs there he did dreams Mark

1094
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: Mark Barnes and why the said Kevin? So like they

1095
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: have like Mark, listen, love and respect to Mark Barnes.

1096
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: He has some of the craziest amazing clubs and venues

1097
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: that like life Life part took and with created at

1098
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: babies were made there um or at least initiated UM

1099
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: and and and and in in New Orleans, in Louisiana,

1100
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: there was like these clubs that were just as big,

1101
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: Like you go to a club that had three thousand

1102
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: people and Little Wayne took me the one and this

1103
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: was the most gangster shit. I mean, there's a couple

1104
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: of times where I was like in an environment, I

1105
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: lost my fucking mind, like and lead immediately like left

1106
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 1: the studio, like I mean left the club going, let's

1107
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: go make some music. Little Wayne took me to a

1108
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: place in New Orleans, Man and it was white teeth,

1109
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: white teeth, Central gold Tief, gold teeth everywhere, and you

1110
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: could just the guns were in the club. Bro, everybody

1111
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: had a gun. Bro. Like it could really it could

1112
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: have like it would have gone down. A lot of

1113
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: people would have got like like hit up and for me, like,

1114
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a tough guy, Bro, I I'm really I

1115
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: really believe in paying taxes because when you pay taxes,

1116
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: when you pay taxes, it's like you shouldn't feel no

1117
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: kind of way. Doling nine one one. You know what

1118
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I'm saying that I'm like not tell

1119
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: the guy. Yo, listen, you think Steven Spielberg has many

1120
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 1: great movies he's ever made, or Standy Koprick. You think

1121
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: these guys are good fucking shots, the terrible shots, it's

1122
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: probably never been in the gun range. They can make

1123
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: the movie, right. I make the music because I'm inspired

1124
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: by it. Literally, we were were we the other night,

1125
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: we was we was at the Hit Factory. It was

1126
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: god yesterday they were shooting like four or five shots

1127
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 1: and ship well because that's in the so you know. So,

1128
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: so Kelly comes in, She's like, can I talk to

1129
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: you for a second winter session? He says, can I

1130
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: talk to you? Say like yeah, She's like yeah. So

1131
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: they're shooting in the parking lot. I'm leaving. I'm like,

1132
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: where then are you going on the shooting outside? You

1133
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: act like the sucking the uber or the lift is

1134
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: gonna pull up in the middle of the ship. But literally,

1135
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a tough guy. I knew I'm staying my

1136
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: ass inside and the fucking FBI is on speed dial.

1137
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Not a fucking tough guy. People say things about snitching.

1138
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm fucking snitching. You know. Everybody plays their part. This

1139
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: is a movie, but you, guys, everybody plays the part

1140
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: guys snitching. This's doing nothing around me. I'm not doing

1141
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: for the nitching. Hey getting that out. Hey, I have

1142
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: a purpose. I have to be me. I have to

1143
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: do my job and I have to play my part

1144
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: in this movie. And my partner is I told you

1145
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: not to do that ship. I told you I wasn't

1146
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: built for this. I'm really sorry, but this is your deal,

1147
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: your honor. Jury are you guys are saying I asked

1148
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: him not to do this, and if he was gonna

1149
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: do it or she was gonna do it, don't fucking

1150
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: tell me, Well, you're civilian. You can get away with

1151
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: that one minute. The world everybody's everybody's not sucking nay

1152
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: five years in a condition you know you are not

1153
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: built for because you want to look tough. I am

1154
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: not fucking tough. You know, you know, I don't want

1155
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: to look like fucking free and having living my life.

1156
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: You get away with that totally. No street person in

1157
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: the world will be offended by saying that, because you're

1158
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: never claimed with tough. That's the problem. The problem is

1159
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: it's not people um that think like you. The problem

1160
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: is the people that that portrayed a certain image. You

1161
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: have never betrayed that image. So no one can ever

1162
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: be offended by that statement that you and how many

1163
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: people do you really know? Really right, and don't tell

1164
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: how many times y'all talk about y'all your friends is

1165
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: the hardest guy in the world. Motherfucker's like, it's a

1166
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: middle ground. There's a middle ground, but it's just how

1167
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: many just there's not just super gainst in telling there's

1168
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: a middle ground in there and you're here right now

1169
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,719
Speaker 1: you're here right now. We're not we're not living against

1170
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: the life for not the perfect that. This is where

1171
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: we're at right here. This is guys who survived the street.

1172
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: Like what we're not telling you? But I mean, we're

1173
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: we're not involving ship. We're not involving that. We're not involving.

1174
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: We're not involving ship. Were not with nothing. We're good.

1175
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: We're good, good, hey man, when we play our taxes,

1176
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: I am a bicycle, not a four wheeler. Okay, I

1177
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: meant the ride, but there's only so much weight I

1178
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: can take, and there's only so much terrain I can take,

1179
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: and I can only go but so fast. I'm very

1180
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: clear on that. So let me switch the subject a

1181
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: little bit. You mentioned little Wayne, Little Wayne and put

1182
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: your teeth. Yeah, they had this discrepancy. Yeah, what was

1183
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: your stance on that? My stances. I didn't want to

1184
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 1: see that go that way? You know there was you know,

1185
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: um that didn't make me happy. I hate to see

1186
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: what him and Drake are going through, or what they

1187
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: went through. I hated to see all of it, every

1188
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: bit of it. It was never it wasn't it wasn't good.

1189
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: Drake's amazing and Drake is all powerful and he's so talented.

1190
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: Too far. You didn't push it with too far, you know,

1191
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: like I push it in and tell me because he

1192
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: knows I would have, you know, stood in front of

1193
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: him as much as I could. But he's a different

1194
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: kind of person. He's a tourist, you know what I'm saying,

1195
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: And tourist people. I don't know if there's anybody out

1196
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: there right now, but tourists April April. My daughter's a tourist,

1197
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: right So when you and when you feel like a

1198
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: line is crossed and you take off the gloves, that's

1199
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 1: just where your brain is at, you know what I'm saying.

1200
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 1: Where's Drake is a scorpio? And they never forget. And

1201
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: that's in the December, Yeah, like it was. It's just

1202
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: the worst combination of two people who are very pure

1203
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: and very loyal to the people that they love. And

1204
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you you could do what happened to

1205
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: that boy? What push the t bird man? And when yeah,

1206
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want that man. I didn't I

1207
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: It's still it still breaks my heart to this day

1208
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: because I would have loved to have heard those guys

1209
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: on a song together. Or heard a joint project together.

1210
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: You know, push it in Wayne or push your Drake,

1211
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 1: push it right. I would have loved to have seen

1212
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,759
Speaker 1: that have been singing and push your hitting the balls whatever.

1213
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: And Drake, Drake got bars, bro, Drake got by the way,

1214
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: push your says, Drake got bars. Yeah. When Drake makes

1215
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: something that's amazing. We talked about it all the time.

1216
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: When something's a it's amazing, it ain't that. It ain't that,

1217
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: it's just that pushes up really tonicship relationship with Drake, like, um,

1218
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: has it affected it in any way? I mean we've

1219
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: talked several times. I love Drake, I mean even in

1220
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 1: the middle of all that stuff, like he would like

1221
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: he like he's said super nice and kind things to

1222
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: me on the d M and and and in public.

1223
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Drake doesn't. Neither one of them

1224
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: are into problems. They don't like it, like it's unnecessary.

1225
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: But they're both people who, like, you know, when when

1226
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: when they feel like they're being pushed to a limit,

1227
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 1: they gotta do what they gotta do. I don't know,

1228
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: it's all good. I um, that didn't you know that

1229
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: didn't I wasn't happy about that, you know what I'm saying,

1230
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: Um and I and and man, I talked to Push

1231
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,679
Speaker 1: all all the time, like he's he's really a good guy.

1232
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: It's just in his mind. He just felt like when

1233
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: the gloves come off, gloves came off because he mentioned

1234
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: this girl, right that, Yeah, that was like that was

1235
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: a different kind of line. And by the way, and

1236
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would have you know, if Drake had

1237
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: a girl and they were as serious, I'm sure Drake

1238
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 1: would have felt the same way. But again, it's like

1239
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing with rap, like you know, there's there

1240
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: should be rules, but there's kind of no rules, and

1241
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: people will do and say anything. Man, the stuff that

1242
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 1: Big and Pop went through, and he had a Dida's

1243
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 1: deal because like I know, like you Big and Adidas

1244
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: as well, Right, Drake had Adida's deal and Push the

1245
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: Teak got him up out of there. He did, he

1246
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: did had he did have a deal there. But again,

1247
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: all of this was unbeknownst to me, Like Drake told

1248
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: me that he had a situation there, but I didn't

1249
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: know that any of this would ever come up, you know,

1250
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 1: and I like I would never I didn't want to

1251
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: see this, man. I didn't want to see this. I

1252
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: just think that they're super too, super talented guys that man.

1253
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: You know, black people and especially black men, we haven't

1254
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: had it so easy in this country and even in Canada,

1255
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: like it's not been so easy for black men there,

1256
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: and when you think about where this country is going,

1257
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: like seventy one million people did not like the turnout

1258
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: of this election, and they were all complicit and cool

1259
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: with a lot of the things that happened because they

1260
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: voted for it again. And um, I gotta give my

1261
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 1: respect just as a citizen, I'm supposed to respect, you know,

1262
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 1: the the current administration because they are the leaders of

1263
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: the free world. I don't agree with a lot of

1264
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: things that they say. I don't agree with a lot

1265
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: of the policies, and a lot of that has come

1266
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: down on, you know, on black males. And yes, you

1267
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: know they have been you know, um, they have been

1268
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, reversing uh sentences and pardoning and doing all

1269
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: these things. I know, Kim was a very it was

1270
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 1: a very played the very intricral part of that. But

1271
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't give a fun man. We are an endangered

1272
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 1: species black men. Bro. So it's like when you see

1273
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: two people who are so fucking powerful. And you see

1274
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: men that look like Drake die or be paralyzed with

1275
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: with police bullets in their back, you know what I'm saying.

1276
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: Or you see black men that look like Pusha who

1277
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: die with police bullets or dying just in general, just

1278
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: from like the the very dark forces of racism in

1279
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 1: this country. My only thing is to say, you guys,

1280
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: you guys are both live in great lives. And sure

1281
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 1: there's been some overstepping on both parts. I'll say, man, like,

1282
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: we better than this, and we gotta we gotta we

1283
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: we too. Zoom in right now, bro, we need to

1284
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: zoom out. We need to zoom out and see the

1285
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: bigger picture we we need We're stronger together. And and

1286
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: and I and I've wanted to do that, but it's

1287
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 1: not something that I can do. I mean, record you

1288
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: produce it. What do you mean? I'd be so honored.

1289
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: I do I do whatever for that, I do whatever

1290
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: I want that to be. I wish that that did

1291
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: not exist. You know what I'm saying, this didn't exist.

1292
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 1: I wish all of it just it was never It

1293
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: didn't it wasn't good for anyone. It was literally both

1294
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: of them, like feeling like, no, I'm not backing down,

1295
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, why should I back down?

1296
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: But it's like, no, you guys are you. Guys are

1297
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: bigger than you. Guys are bigger than this issue. You

1298
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, Drake is arguably one

1299
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: of the biggest. No, he is the biggest artist right now,

1300
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 1: He's the biggest you know what I'm saying. And Pusher

1301
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: is like one of those guys that like he continues

1302
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: to up his ship like lyrically, people know he's the

1303
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: most he's one of the most respected lyrically, and like

1304
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: by the way he's consistent with what it is that

1305
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: he does. He just continues, like it seems like he's

1306
01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: getting better and better and better. I just that would

1307
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: be the greatest thing for me. I mean I didn't

1308
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: come on here to talk about that necessarily, but man,

1309
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: this is hip hop. We just were just so much

1310
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: bigger and better than that. Man, And we need your

1311
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: opinion too, because people don't get your opinion. Yeah, well,

1312
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: you know, I stay quiet on all of us. I

1313
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: tried to stay out of ship. Are we taking onto

1314
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: the show of Purple Rain? Let's taken on the shot

1315
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: of purple rain purples? Yes, please, we have legendary print

1316
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: stories here. Drink? Did he float the purple? Purple smoke

1317
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: every time? Prince, We're so cool. I've tried for years

1318
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: to make records for him. My first attempt at making

1319
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: a record with him for him, Uh, UM's fronting frighten

1320
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: was Prince, that's crazy. I'm finally figured this out. How

1321
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: far did that go? He didn't. He didn't want it,

1322
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: so he didn't even take it all right, tom On,

1323
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: did he hear the whole front? He heard? Um? I

1324
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: think he heard the melodies and again it's been so long,

1325
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: he might have heard the hook and maybe the melodies

1326
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: for the verse or whatever it was. When I finished

1327
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: the verses, No, I think I wrote a different version

1328
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: of it a little bit for him, and uh he

1329
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't into it. It's one of my

1330
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: favorite real records of man. That was me pretending to

1331
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: be him. Really, Yeah, you got me my all of

1332
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: my I'm telling all of my you go see you

1333
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: all right? So you was trying to that's your Prince

1334
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: in person that I was trying to, just the one

1335
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: good I thought would have been good for him at

1336
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: that time, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, nah,

1337
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: but we did do either for it or after that. Again,

1338
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the chronology drunk facts. We got drunk facts here. Uh,

1339
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: don't fire me, Richard mill Um, but my time is off. Um.

1340
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 1: So you've got that at one point five Richard mill

1341
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: On too. We'll get to that later. Were watching me,

1342
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: watching only but only dude, I know that you wouldn't hope.

1343
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: I think it's the only dude, I know what they

1344
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: only your mill But we'll give me that later. So

1345
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: so that one, I just felt like we did all

1346
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: this other one the remix called the greatest story that's

1347
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: ever been told. I think that might have been before.

1348
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: And then I tried to set then I tried to

1349
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 1: like make frightened for him, and he just was like,

1350
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know we heard back. The answer was

1351
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: just no, I could hear him now that I think about,

1352
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: I could hear him on that, and that would have

1353
01:19:48,240 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: been incredible, dude, d yeah, that would have been I

1354
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 1: was like trying, that's why they're brown. Thank thank bang,

1355
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: thank thank thank thank But he wasn't into it. Michael

1356
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: Michael Michael turned us down because that's my next day,

1357
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: back to back Prince Michael. But they both turned us down.

1358
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 1: They were like, that's the second Remember I told you

1359
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: top ten phone calls in my whole life A second

1360
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: top ten is this is after you tell me they're

1361
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: doing cheers whatever. Alright, cool, it's really really blown now,

1362
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: oh no drops, And now I'm like elegant to a

1363
01:20:55,160 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: certain extent. People like Hype Williams video video. Right. That

1364
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: was where that was where whenever anything it was hot,

1365
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: we'd be like, remember that time. That was a different era.

1366
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: So you hit me and said, yo, I just said

1367
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson some beats. I'm like, I'm like, like, I

1368
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: didn't understand this talk because I'm like, damn, I'm not

1369
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: no Michael Jackson ever at all. So I'm like, where

1370
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: you said to me? He told we, Nope, I don't

1371
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: think nor we will rhyme on that. I was like,

1372
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 1: my life is done. Yo. John mcclaim was his manager

1373
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: at the time. We sat him pretty much all the

1374
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: stuff you guys are hearing on the first Justified album.

1375
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: That's all the Michael stuff to justin Justin Timberla, Oh, yes, okay,

1376
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: go ahead, all but one song. They were all written

1377
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: for uh Michael. Whatever of Michael's is. Remember the time

1378
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: era this is right at the super colg right, you

1379
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: robbed My World right before that and m and John

1380
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: McClain was like, man, Michael, don't want that ship. They

1381
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: want the ship that you're giving Nora. I'm like, immediately

1382
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: thought of Michael with the crypts in the blood picture.

1383
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, no bosh it. He was like, yo,

1384
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 1: he wanted that super thug. You know it wasn't other

1385
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: one y'all just did I would have been a crazy Michael.

1386
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: Remember where I called me? I was like, because I

1387
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: haven't really like I'm still a kid. I'm twenty maybe one.

1388
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: When he said that to me, It's like, yo, Michael

1389
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: told me I've been you said maybe the manager. He said,

1390
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: they want this ship that would no where we wrong

1391
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: on And I was sitting back like, I was like,

1392
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: I hung up the phone because in my mind it

1393
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: was a flip star Tech. So I hung up and

1394
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund did? I just here

1395
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to assess that. And Farrell

1396
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 1: was telling me, no, I couldn't make wreck music for Michael.

1397
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep you in mind, like something he

1398
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 1: would rhyme too, and I was just I was blown away.

1399
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: That's that's my top like Biggie called me before he

1400
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 1: passed away. So this is my top ten. Did Biggie

1401
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: say he wanted to r and yo? Yeah? Oh my god?

1402
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: It was crazy and what happened? What happened? Why? Why

1403
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: did it not happen? He was in l A when

1404
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: he called me, so you know, you know how God

1405
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 1: blessed that rest of the biggest smalls. But on that

1406
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,680
Speaker 1: l A trip he had called me toking. Um. So

1407
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: this is my top ten calls on my whole life.

1408
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write him down. I don't write him down.

1409
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: IM gonna make a book my top but first of all,

1410
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: you have to do a book and you and it

1411
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 1: has to be my top ten calls, top ten calls.

1412
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: I think. I think I'm gonna make down a book.

1413
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 1: This is listen listen, and you have to be so

1414
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: vivid about these stories. Just your brother, you know, this

1415
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: is what I do okay with with the Michael Jackson story,

1416
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: I know, but hold on a second, let him produce.

1417
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: You brother, I've always my whole life got there, you know,

1418
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: like like it has to be ten calls. By the way,

1419
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: any any of the publishers that are listening to this,

1420
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: and let's the good ones come on, come out of

1421
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: the water works. This is amazing. It's super colorful because

1422
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: those calls are fucking crazy. Yo, fucking yo, notorious b

1423
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,600
Speaker 1: I G wanted to get on and you know, my

1424
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: dumb ass bl I'm sitting there thinking my shirt is bootleg,

1425
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 1: so I'm like because it wasn't out, so I'm like, yo,

1426
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: but I forgot nat Iris, who produced it, was worth

1427
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: a bad boy, so he played it for Biggie exclusively.

1428
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: Does anyone know how incredible nice Sheen Marix was it is?

1429
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: Does anyone know that Nashi Marix? Do you all understand

1430
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: what he did with Queen Bitch? Do you all understand

1431
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: Nashin Marix, brother, I think I've met you one time.

1432
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, you are absolutely a periodic inspiration.

1433
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: What you do and what you've done with so many

1434
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: songs has moved me. Chad pusha fam like you don't

1435
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: even understand. You know how many people got shot to

1436
01:25:52,560 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: Queen Beich, to Queen Bitch because no bullshit. Listen, listen, listen, listen.

1437
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody to get shot. But I'm just

1438
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: telling you as a fan from a Stanley Kubrick Steven

1439
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: Spielberg perspective on the movie A bro Possess, how many

1440
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: times somebody got shot? To Queen Bread, to queen bitch?

1441
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: Are you here? Bla bla blackap You don't understand what

1442
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 1: they did two D the Norfolk Enforcement. You don't understand

1443
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: some of the most you listen. I know New York

1444
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: got guns, but you don't understand. We're listening in Virginia.

1445
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 1: They senselessly kill. It's a very different thing, you know.

1446
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: They just jealousy and envy. Envy from a distance was

1447
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: enough for you to get shot at. And that's not

1448
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 1: something that I was into because I was done. However,

1449
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: and the closest to the closest to the exit with

1450
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: my old g is going, are you good? They're not.

1451
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: They know not to do that dumb ship over here,

1452
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 1: shout all the like, all of my own g's, all

1453
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: of all the back one like them. They're like those

1454
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: guys were like deities walking around like Apollo and fucking

1455
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: they were different. However, shout that purple rain, Yeah, that

1456
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: shook one's blood. Money when number records came on in Virginia. Listen,

1457
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand how to really communicate

1458
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 1: that to y'all. And nashe Marix was one of those guys,

1459
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: those beats that he would make. I don't know what

1460
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:53,040
Speaker 1: the funk would possess this guy to put some of

1461
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: those baselines down to some of those samples. But man, listen,

1462
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: I take my hat off to you, brother. You are

1463
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: fucking different, and I encourage all young producers. It's not

1464
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: trapped music, it's not rap music up today. It's from

1465
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: a different era. And I'm telling you right now it

1466
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: incited riots. We're done. Go ahead, biggie. You wanted to

1467
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: be a biggie, wanted to be in be on T

1468
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 1: O n Y. That is like, oh my god. So

1469
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: this is from Charlemagne direct right, he said. I always

1470
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: wonder if in his mind did he ever compete with

1471
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 1: Timberland since they vote from Virginia, Like, was it ever

1472
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: like a competition? At one point I did think y'all

1473
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 1: was in competition. Timberland has always been better than me,

1474
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: and I feel sound wise it was a whole different lane.

1475
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Timberland has always been better than me. Period. Timberland did

1476
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: like he four feet that's the respect that you have.

1477
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: Come on, Timberland. Timberland didn't he to be the guys,

1478
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:13,919
Speaker 1: you guys, let's stop. Timberland did four page letter. Timberland

1479
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: did what are we talking about? It's just it's it,

1480
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: it's over. What is jigger man? Trigger man? Hit your

1481
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 1: van up. I'm gonna stop right then, come on, I'm

1482
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: beat anything on you on versus again? No man again

1483
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 1: city for anybody? Would you ever think about doing the verse? Never?

1484
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: Never know, because that's just it's not my thing. I

1485
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: love watching them, but I just like I would get

1486
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: in my own way. I stopped playing ship. I see

1487
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,439
Speaker 1: like I play your records. You just you just it

1488
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: just wouldn't be the right look for it. But I've

1489
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: seen your comedies at you with like it's like like

1490
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: it's like back right, they say back, and he got

1491
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: baract the nigga speaker, right. So then the guy he

1492
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: says with Barrack says, and then it's the guy that says, well,

1493
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: I would I would like to be your nigga speaker

1494
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: at that night you say something cool cool, humble ship,

1495
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what do he means this? I get

1496
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 1: fun with this right, I'm telling me, I don't be

1497
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 1: like they listen to me. Bro, Holy moly, nobody can't

1498
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 1: your broom. I don't fry Timper. I mean speaking because

1499
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to say nigga no more. I don't

1500
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: want to say that. Timber the king, Bro, Timber the King,

1501
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 1: Timber the King. All right, so would you pop out Kan? Yeah?

1502
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: You on Kan yea in Verson. That's your little man.

1503
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Kanye is amazing. Bro. You wouldn't have that. I don't listen.

1504
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: I know my job, Bro. I'm not a boxer. I'm

1505
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 1: a trainer and and and at the end of the day,

1506
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: like you know, because I was I'm lucky to be

1507
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: able to throw a couple of shots and get a

1508
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of belts. I'm very grateful. But

1509
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: this is not my fight, Like, it's just not my thing.

1510
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: How you can say that, I can't say that. They

1511
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: won't let me. They're trying to make me battle everybody. Well,

1512
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 1: how can you can say that? And you're like, I

1513
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I just I just I know my place,

1514
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jackson with that, No, No, I know

1515
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 1: my place. I will say this. I will say that

1516
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: you know I wasn't. I wasn't sure of what to

1517
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,920
Speaker 1: expect here. I know I have a loving respect for

1518
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 1: your show, and I had such a I'm having such

1519
01:31:53,720 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: a great time. Man. Another shot of purple rate brand. Man.

1520
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: I just want you to know, man, our show is

1521
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: about saluting O. I see it. Legends, I see it.

1522
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 1: You know when they people got ten years and more,

1523
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: they say this over right now, you know there's this

1524
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: new young producers. Salute this new young producers. You don't

1525
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: feel like that. So I also think that you should

1526
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: have a partnership with a florist. So all the florist,

1527
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: what we need flowers, All the florists that are out there.

1528
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different brands, a lot of different versions,

1529
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: and a lot of different places coming from different places.

1530
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Like there should be a Drink Champs like addition of flowers,

1531
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 1: because that's all these guys are doing and giving people

1532
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 1: their flowers that so you know, you need that. You

1533
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 1: you need to you need to call, write, email, do

1534
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do to connect with these guys.

1535
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: And there should be a Drink Champs florist. And I'm

1536
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: just saying people will order, people will order from here,

1537
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: just because they want to be supportive of of of

1538
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 1: black and Latin X entrepreneurs like and they'd be very

1539
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 1: supportive of what you do because you do this on

1540
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: your podcast, like you said, you said, Yo, we like

1541
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: this is a show about giving people their flowers and

1542
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 1: ship right, so you should have that merchandise. They have flowers.

1543
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: You should actually have flowers. Were gonna have a girl

1544
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 1: give it to you because I feel uncomfortable giving you

1545
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 1: flowers right now. I'm telling you see the kind of

1546
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: money that you can make a right brother, I don't

1547
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 1: tell you something. Not only that, you also had the

1548
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: most disrespectful jury in the game. At one point. You

1549
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: would like to Eric be a rock Kim off the

1550
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: new producers like like you like, you know serious, Let's

1551
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: keep it real, Let's keep it real, Let's keep it

1552
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: brute diamonds. I didn't even know what that meant. I

1553
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: didn't even know. We just love it. Was like, let's

1554
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 1: talk about your jewelry game for one, Why are you

1555
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: really getting into it right now? Why not so jewelry wise?

1556
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 1: I um, I was what the fund is that? So

1557
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,679
Speaker 1: what it's a mix of what and what? It's imagine

1558
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 1: a bloody Mary beer drink. Got it? That's my line. Okay,

1559
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 1: say again, everybody ever you listen. We know almost every

1560
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 1: company here. This is what this is. We all the

1561
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: fooboo of the media. Everything is yes, yes, And the book,

1562
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: the book, and the book is important. The book is

1563
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 1: important to the legacy. The book is important to the legacy.

1564
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: And the florest isn't it is important to the future.

1565
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: Like that, like the fact that you guys literally give

1566
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: people that we have to do. Man, that's what we

1567
01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: have to do. Come on there, there's some flock and

1568
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: feel it right now, there's some some florist that's gonna

1569
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: contact you. Guys would be happy to be y'all's partners.

1570
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: And you pick them all out. God damn, you're not

1571
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I must see you the pictures. You tell

1572
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 1: me which was to go with? When you start thinking

1573
01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: about that, when you realize a kind of money for

1574
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 1: the make right now, you're gonna be very clear on

1575
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: what colors you want to pick. Good. So, wait, where

1576
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: where are we right now? Because because the purple rain

1577
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: is kicking out, we might need to figure it out.

1578
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: Purple rain, Okay, jewelry wise, jewelry rain, serious, bro so

1579
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 1: so jewelry wise, Um, I've you know, I would have

1580
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 1: my like I would have like my inspiration like some sounds,

1581
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you know what, you know, something as

1582
01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 1: simple as a monopoly Um, thank you. Something that's simple

1583
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: as like a monopoly piece. I'm like, yo, I want

1584
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 1: to do this, So I want to do that, right

1585
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: I did never did that, but at the time I

1586
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: was thinking that way, or like when I was going

1587
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: through like my jury motions, I was also dealing with cars,

1588
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 1: so I would say, Yo, I want to do SpongeBob.

1589
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: That's what made him start doing SpongeBob. I want to

1590
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: do Smurfs. That's what had him doing Smurfs. Now he

1591
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: was an incredible artist on his own. He did something

1592
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: called the Kimpson's And it was at that same time

1593
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,680
Speaker 1: that a sense of self discovery, that you realize that

1594
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: you could just have your own ideas and go in

1595
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: there and not just have to settle for whatever Tito

1596
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: was giving you, because I used to go to We

1597
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: used to go to Tito shout to listen to miss

1598
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 1: you love you brother every time he saw faces Man,

1599
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: and then and then there was and then I went

1600
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: to Then I went to Jacob and then like everything changed,

1601
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 1: and then I met Lorraine, So I you know, I

1602
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: stayed very very very loyal to Jacob and Lorraine. And Okay,

1603
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: who's Loine. That's another Lorraine Schwartz. Yeah, she's she's she's great,

1604
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: she's great. I have be happy to introduce you to her.

1605
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: So Lorraine is like Lizabeth Taylor, like you know what,

1606
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like that, kind of like those kind

1607
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: of levels. Um, she did Kim's ring, she did these rings,

1608
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 1: she did my wife's ring. You know, we was early

1609
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: on the rain, like we you know, I'm very loyal

1610
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,879
Speaker 1: to the people I partner with, whether it's a Dida's Lorraine,

1611
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: whoever it is, I'm turning the lights on, I'm turning

1612
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: everybody onto them. Um. And so jewelry wise, I just

1613
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 1: wanted to express myself, like you know what, I'm from

1614
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 1: any r D And you guys can keep getting fucking crosses.

1615
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 1: I've done that, but we're gonna do something else. And

1616
01:37:54,960 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: so there was this one moment colorful. There was one

1617
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 1: moment we went to the BT Awards. I don't know

1618
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: what year it was, but for a surprise, Stephen Hill

1619
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 1: brought on Slick Rick was Dougie Fresh on there with

1620
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: him too. At the first was Douggie Fresh on there

1621
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: with him as well? At first, I'm not sure. I

1622
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,839
Speaker 1: think he might have been. And if he's not, my apologies,

1623
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: because Dougie is every fucking thing and they got gotta dance.

1624
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:36,479
Speaker 1: Years later, he's everything. Slick Rick was on there with

1625
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: a short suit, meaning a suit with shorts right, burgundy

1626
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 1: with Burgundy Clark's on m and his jewelry and I

1627
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 1: am seen on the b T. Yeah. I don't know

1628
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,600
Speaker 1: if it was a BT Awards it or if it

1629
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: was the BT Hip Hop Awards. I'm not sure. I

1630
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 1: can't remember. And he had on all that jewelry. And

1631
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I called Jacob that night. I said, listen to me, Okay,

1632
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: this is in full transparency. There was no big Cuban

1633
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: links before this. He had on a cuban and I

1634
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: thought about some of the stuff that he didn't have

1635
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 1: one that night that I've always loved. And I called Jacob.

1636
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: I said, listen, we're doing three chains. We're gonna do

1637
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: a bigger Cuban than you've ever seen, and the Gucci

1638
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 1: link and then we're gonna do a much bigger Cuban

1639
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna do a Gucci link. But the

1640
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 1: difference is I'm doing them in white gold and they're

1641
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: all gonna be pavede. There was no pavade cubanstinum, no platinum.

1642
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to lift my don know.

1643
01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 1: That is like lots of diamonds, like you know when

1644
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: you see teeth, they're pavede, like paved, but paved. And

1645
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, we're do wing. It's gonna be

1646
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: all sugar coated, basically paved. So pave Cuban link, paved

1647
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:13,679
Speaker 1: smaller Cuban link, pavede uh Gucci link. And the first

1648
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: one is going to be of the one that I

1649
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: dout forget the Saints name that's on the crutch. That

1650
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: was okay, that was me imitating slick Rick full on,

1651
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: and I only wore it for a little bit and

1652
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: after a while I realized, okay, this is too slick Rick,

1653
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: and I gave it to Nigo that I replaced that

1654
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: with something that with with the BBC helmet, all all

1655
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: pavede out three D and then I did the one

1656
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: of ny R D but in the bait characters all

1657
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 1: in the color coded stones and then there was like

1658
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: one more and I can't remember what it was, but

1659
01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 1: either way, then I got the bracelet that was an

1660
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:59,439
Speaker 1: homage to slick Rick bro that was like, slick Rick,

1661
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: You're the King, You're the King, and you know I

1662
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 1: love slick Ricks so much. When he came home day

1663
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want you to go in with

1664
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: a stick and I was like, what are you crazy?

1665
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing for fucking free. What do you mean, it's

1666
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: fucking slick Rick. My brothers and I. All we did

1667
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: was right around and listen to that, you know, the

1668
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 1: adventures of slick Rick's story, like what that whole ship

1669
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,640
Speaker 1: mona Lisa hang on record in the world. Just so

1670
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: you guys understand. I got my first role when I

1671
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 1: first got my first rolls, boys, I wrote a down

1672
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: in Virginia with some white models from New York. I

1673
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, you guys caught a coming to Virginia

1674
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: with me, and let's just drop a fucking round and

1675
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: slow motion with the hazard lights on. And I made

1676
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 1: them listen to that. They had never heard of it

1677
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: than their life, but you guys have to understand what

1678
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: this is. By the end of the night, they were

1679
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,600
Speaker 1: all singing in the world that the songs together, it

1680
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: was great. Still Poppy is got them and keep talking

1681
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 1: that ship. So so when I when I made that jewelry,

1682
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 1: was like, that was everything. I'll never forget. The first

1683
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: time I unveil it, we did drop it like we

1684
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: played drop it like it's hot for the first time

1685
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 1: in the Staples Center and it was so many gangs

1686
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: in there that I was like, yo, are we really

1687
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 1: going out there? And Snoop was like, nah, pe, they

1688
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 1: love us, and like Bloods was in there and he

1689
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: saw first of all. That's when I realized it was

1690
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 1: more than one crip. And I thought it was just

1691
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,720
Speaker 1: like Bloods and the crips, it's more than one of

1692
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,799
Speaker 1: all of that. There was like the Grape Street Crips.

1693
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: They were in purple. I was like what. Then they

1694
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,560
Speaker 1: were in purple. Then there was another group there was

1695
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 1: We're in green. I mean like there were so many

1696
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 1: of them. They were throwing signs and ship and we

1697
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,200
Speaker 1: played dropping like inside and he was like go ahead,

1698
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,720
Speaker 1: p and I unzipped the ship and you know, had

1699
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,519
Speaker 1: my moment, what did you have on a bunch of

1700
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: babe stuff? I was it was baked at the time

1701
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Nego still owned Babe, he hadn't sold it yet, and

1702
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: M yeah so bait yeah a long time ago. Yeah,

1703
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: uh not my brother and not the general. So I

1704
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 1: don't wear it. I ain't. I ain't want babe and

1705
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:06,560
Speaker 1: ship since I wait, I didn't know that. Yeah, no,

1706
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: you know, no disrespect to them or whatever, but it

1707
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: ain't Nego me and Nego is human made. Remember the

1708
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 1: first you gave me a pair of babes, they were

1709
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 1: like like brown Swede collectors items. Right now, I ain't

1710
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: got it, but let me just tell you how much

1711
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: I wore them ships in my hood. They joked on

1712
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: me the first pair like this is before no one had.

1713
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 1: You gave me a pair and I wore him in

1714
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: my hood And I was like yo, and I kept

1715
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: saying they hunting people like those is fake up doll,

1716
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: like this is bait man, And they're like, yo, those

1717
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 1: this weak, Yo, what the fun are you doing? Like Yo,

1718
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 1: this is for felling them sneaker. This is gonna blow yo.

1719
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 1: They baked on me I'm talking about I was just

1720
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: they were just laughing at me, and I just said

1721
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,640
Speaker 1: fuck it. I rolled with it. And now all the

1722
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 1: dudes like you're my bad. Yeah, that's that's Nigo Bro.

1723
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: Nigo Nigo is you know, and and you know we

1724
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 1: talk about like us and rap music and like, you know,

1725
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 1: that culture. You know, part of that time. What made

1726
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: you even wanted to get into that type of world

1727
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,920
Speaker 1: because you already dominated. So you asked me about the jewelry.

1728
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: J By the way, I had a whole of the

1729
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: lifetime after the big jewelry. That's when we just started

1730
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: getting them more sophisticated, like just thinking about things a

1731
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,080
Speaker 1: little bit differently. Yeah, I see your your whole risks

1732
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: just difference. Is that a Cardier blast it made for

1733
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: you for Cardia? This is Nigga. Nigga made this. This

1734
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: is a human maid. This is a human maid bracelet

1735
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: like Cardier, Yes, sir, Yeah, elsewhere. And that's Cactus plan

1736
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 1: She's Cactus Yeah, yeah, Captain Planning. She got she's over

1737
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 1: with Nike as well. She's something else. So he's a

1738
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: crazy thing. So Jacob, you asked me about the jury.

1739
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: So Jacob called me. He said, you know, I got

1740
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: this guy. You know, he likes your stuff, you know,

1741
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:17,519
Speaker 1: you know, you know, good good, good, good, good client.

1742
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: He's a good client. You know, he's from Japan. You

1743
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't know this guy, and mego, he's

1744
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: fucking reach. He's you know, he's got this company used

1745
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: to check it out. Jacob was the one that introduced

1746
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 1: me to Nigo and Bait because Nego kept coming to

1747
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: New York. Go and listen, you're making jury for this guy.

1748
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: You made him this Cuban link. You made this for

1749
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 1: him in yellow. I wanted in yellow, and then I

1750
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 1: wanted in rows, and then I wanted in white, and

1751
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: everything that I got for a couple of years before

1752
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,240
Speaker 1: Nigo met me, he would get everything that I got

1753
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: in in different versions, one in rows, one in yellow,

1754
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: and one in white. And Jacob was like, look, look,

1755
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: you don't believe me. He pulled at his desk, he

1756
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: opened the drawers and they showed me the photos of

1757
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: me and the jury, that jury, the jury that Jacob

1758
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: had made for me. And Nego was a fan. She said,

1759
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: I have this because he asked for the same thing.

1760
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy. You gotta meet this guy, trust me,

1761
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: just do me a favor. So Lloyd knew him as

1762
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:16,680
Speaker 1: well because when Lloyd went out there with Calise when

1763
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 1: he was like road managing her, they went over to

1764
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Nego and they met Neigo to send the other So

1765
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: I needed a studio to do something. When I was

1766
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 1: out there, and Jacob kept going, Yo, you need to

1767
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: go sit with this guy. He's a fan of yours.

1768
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:32,560
Speaker 1: So when I went to Neigo's office where his studio was,

1769
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 1: he he had an office that had a showroom, production

1770
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 1: room for clothes and sneakers, and then like in Italia,

1771
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,600
Speaker 1: and then he also had a showroom and below that

1772
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:45,840
Speaker 1: was the studio. He was like, Yo, you need a studio,

1773
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: Come use my studio. So I used the studio. I

1774
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 1: got done doing I needed to do at one upstairs,

1775
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 1: and I saw all these bib stairs that kind of

1776
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:54,800
Speaker 1: looked like ups down up towns in a in a

1777
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,560
Speaker 1: a in a way. But the color ways was so

1778
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 1: fucking crazy and literally, like, let's say, so those first babes,

1779
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 1: they was already made as you as you saw. I

1780
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: walked in the showroom and then I'm a I'm a

1781
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 1: sample size. I'm a nine nine, nine and a half.

1782
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 1: So let's say there's three colors here and there's not,

1783
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 1: but let's say there is green, white, and beige. He

1784
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: would have a babe that was green white, and beige.

1785
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 1: But then he would have it where the colors were reversed,

1786
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 1: so literally each colorway he would do twice and just

1787
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: reverse where they were. And I walked down there and

1788
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:40,840
Speaker 1: I was like, this motherfucker's a genius. I've never seen

1789
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 1: nobody do that, because really, right now, if you think

1790
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 1: about a sneaker drop right, you see a color away,

1791
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 1: it's one pair. What if the toe box and the

1792
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: heel switched the colors, but it's the same three colors

1793
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 1: but just rearranged. When I saw he did that, I say, hey,

1794
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 1: hey man, who are you who? I just want to

1795
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:08,720
Speaker 1: learn from you and he was like no, like I

1796
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: help you. And then that's when we did BBC together,

1797
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:13,719
Speaker 1: and that's when we did ice cream together, and everything changed.

1798
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 1: And that changed my life because at that point I

1799
01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 1: was only thinking about the beat. The beat was my

1800
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 1: only concern. Then are the beat in the in the

1801
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,600
Speaker 1: songs were my only concern? Then I realized that like

1802
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,559
Speaker 1: there's beats, there's music, and then there's merch, and then

1803
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 1: there's like clothes. And he really opened me up. He

1804
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 1: really really really really made me look at things very differently,

1805
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 1: and I saw that this guy's imagination had no bounds.

1806
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,680
Speaker 1: And that's when I realized that like, not only I

1807
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 1: could do this, but like the kids that we see today,

1808
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: they're doing it. But that's when I realized that that

1809
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: was gonna happen. I was like, because if I see this,

1810
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna see it, you know what I'm saying. So

1811
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: that that, like that like changed everything. And I mean

1812
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 1: he was different, this guy. Like some people put their

1813
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 1: ship in the safe. This guy when I went to

1814
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,680
Speaker 1: his house and like his apartment, he had like a

1815
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 1: big Mac toolbox that that they use when they're like

1816
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 1: service in in the pit stop of like a formula one.

1817
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: You know those big toolboxes with the wheels on it,

1818
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:19,560
Speaker 1: and ship, you know the big blue toolbox that was

1819
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,280
Speaker 1: like you had trades and ship. Motherfucker had his jewelry

1820
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 1: in there with lights like he was. He blew my mind.

1821
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 1: And that's when I was like, oh, I'm never I'm

1822
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: never going the other way like I am. We we

1823
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: have the ability to do whatever the funk we want.

1824
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 1: That's like, you're gonna do this book like you guys

1825
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: will mark this day we are? We is this December? Right?

1826
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 1: This is December? Someone up. There's so many publishers have

1827
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 1: heard of this, and some of the young scouts have

1828
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: heard this. You're gonna do this book, and there's a

1829
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: florist or botanist has heard this interview and they're gonna

1830
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: do this with you. Right, you're gonna text me a

1831
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: all me. By the way, You're not only gonna text

1832
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 1: me or call me. But do you guys, do you

1833
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: guys get the positive asks for affirmations that I get

1834
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: from this man, Yo, this ube. Let me tell you

1835
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: something I would be Listen. I'll be caught up in

1836
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 1: so many things that I'm doing and I don't give

1837
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: a funk where I am in the world. Or if

1838
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: you look at this last you know, twelve to twelve

1839
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: to let's call it twelve to fourteen, fifteen months of

1840
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 1: like what we've been going through with COVID because some

1841
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:41,760
Speaker 1: of us knew earlier than others. Um this man relentlessly.

1842
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: If not every week, every two weeks, if not every

1843
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 1: two weeks, every three weeks, but then after that third week,

1844
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: it might be three three consecutive weeks. This man will

1845
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: hit me. Just say hey, positive vibes, and let me

1846
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: tell you something. God is a is a reciprocal god.

1847
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: This universe. This universe is a reciprocal universe, and you

1848
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 1: have no idea. When you send me those positive affirmations

1849
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: and those positive words, you need to know it's coming

1850
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: back to So it don't mean none of us. You

1851
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: sip to it, and I'll just tell you that, man,

1852
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: I was coming back to you, broa because I loved

1853
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:34,040
Speaker 1: I love it, because we live such a beautiful life.

1854
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. You know, what we've been through,

1855
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 1: like the fact that we're surviving and we're alive during

1856
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: this crazy times that we're going through. Is that's the

1857
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 1: what we should be spreading. And it's like, yo, positive energy. Man.

1858
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: Wherever you add in the world, I don't care if

1859
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: it's a rule, but I don't care if it's fucking

1860
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 1: left Rack, I don't care if it's Newport News. I

1861
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: don't care if it's fucking you know, wherever it is,

1862
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 1: Like we we should, we should. We gotta respect each

1863
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 1: other and just be happy to be with so many

1864
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: people that we lost just this year, these messages for

1865
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: years for nothing. That's why I've been like that. And

1866
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm really like love bro thank you man, same to

1867
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:23,920
Speaker 1: you and your family. And when I say that I

1868
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 1: hope he you know, hope you are able to Yeah,

1869
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 1: yeah he is, you know, you know. But let me

1870
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: just tell you from a super outsider like and y'all's

1871
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: and y'all solar system, I'm Pluto. That guy is all

1872
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 1: about you and and and he go on and for years,

1873
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,120
Speaker 1: for years, it's always been when I talked to him,

1874
01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 1: it's like here, it's such a y I'm gonna come

1875
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: down with my wife. It was like, I know when

1876
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: you entered his life. It was a very big difference

1877
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: because it was always whenever I talked to him, you

1878
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 1: were always in the equation. And that's a beautiful thing.

1879
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 1: And I'm so happy for you guys. Actually on some

1880
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: family ship every for the past couple of weeks. Thank

1881
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: you for doing the Grinch movie because I got two

1882
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: young kids, and every morning that's what we're watching and

1883
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: I can stand it because the music is amazing, the

1884
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,760
Speaker 1: narration is amazing, So thank you for that contribution as well.

1885
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 1: With the parents and children, thank you, thank you, flossing

1886
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 1: you because this is a direct question from home. He said,

1887
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: I want all forty stories for him, get him high,

1888
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,720
Speaker 1: which I'm not gonna do. I talked to him over

1889
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: producing Despicable Me. Wow, just funny ship that happened to him. Wow,

1890
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get you. I'm not gonna do that.

1891
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 1: But this is you know what, Sean Carter, I don't

1892
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: know dea I've involved you were, but now I get it.

1893
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:10,599
Speaker 1: Get show Hester say, I get it because he's getting

1894
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,600
Speaker 1: involved with everybody. When but when I like, I'm like,

1895
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's been He's been there. He's a great guy.

1896
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,800
Speaker 1: He's always been there. I remember, I remember when you

1897
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: guys were in the very beginning, when you guys first

1898
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 1: started clicking up whatever, and you had tasted Armadale for

1899
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: the first time. I hated it, and you were so

1900
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: vocal and I was always about I was so my

1901
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: haircut and put Armadale on me and I'm terrible. I

1902
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: loved them. I love no Helou was saying, by the way,

1903
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: by the way, he knows, I'm bringing it up because

1904
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 1: that was hated as much he's loved as much as

1905
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: he loved them. That always blew my mind, like damn, Like, yo,

1906
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: you're so honest about that ship. Well you didn't want

1907
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:55,760
Speaker 1: to rock either. I'm always bringing that up. Hey man,

1908
01:54:55,960 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 1: you gotta relax. I was put I was affected from

1909
01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: Armadale that never tasted a ski. I was bringing like

1910
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:10,640
Speaker 1: it was I I was. I was like, you were

1911
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: the only one. Maybe you had a pink You had

1912
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:16,000
Speaker 1: a pinky drink you remember with milk in it? Oh

1913
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: my god, I never shipped it. Crazy that much alcohol

1914
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 1: wheel you had to figure out. You don't remember cream? Yeah? Cream,

1915
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 1: it was cream based. Yeah, it was c Yeah, it was.

1916
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: It was like hell no, it was like, um, it

1917
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:38,320
Speaker 1: was like imagine like a kulua, like a strawberry version

1918
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:42,960
Speaker 1: of a kula even scared, but to do something to you, Yeah,

1919
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 1: I didn't understand. Then I went home. I was like,

1920
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 1: wait a minute. It was even I don't know what's

1921
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: going on right now. But it was a beautiful thing

1922
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: at the time when you realized how much of never

1923
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 1: you are. Know, you're you're, You're super yo. In my book,

1924
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 1: you're my number one producer of all time. Listen, if

1925
01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:10,560
Speaker 1: I have one last album, which I would like for

1926
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 1: you to do. Listen if I had one last album

1927
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 1: to do, right the fuck it? I keep it real

1928
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 1: with the Lives album, I had one last song to do. Wow,

1929
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 1: that's a lot. He just went from last twelve or

1930
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:31,080
Speaker 1: eleven down to one the whole album, bro, that is,

1931
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get me out of this somehow five songs

1932
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: or something. But you're gonna, as you know, in my

1933
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 1: schedule might be crazy because God is the greatest. God

1934
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: is the greatest. That was oxymaronic. But we're gonna let

1935
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: that go. Um, you're you know your your your credit

1936
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 1: is always good with me. Yes, yes, it's always good

1937
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 1: with me. And no, there's no I don't you don't

1938
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: talk to talk, there's no we're I'm talking about budgets

1939
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: and ship like that, like you know what you gave me.

1940
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 1: I realized what you feel like I gave you. But

1941
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: I okay, let me take this off. I realized what

1942
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 1: you feel like, you like like I gave you, and

1943
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 1: Chad has given you. Shut the chat chat Chad. He

1944
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 1: was a fucking savant genius of the highest order. Is

1945
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: I said, it is of the highest order. I will

1946
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 1: never behalf of the fucking musician that he is. A

1947
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 1: man can pick up an instrument leaving for two hours,

1948
01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker's playing on it like a like an

1949
01:57:54,360 --> 01:58:00,440
Speaker 1: ingenious improvisational you know, person who spent eight years on

1950
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 1: the instrument. That is Chad. Chad is a genius. But

1951
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: I realized what you feel like we have given you,

1952
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: but you need to understand what you gave us. And

1953
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: that is at the time we had done I had wrote,

1954
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 1: I had written Teddy's verse rum Shaker. Then I had

1955
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:29,080
Speaker 1: like a little small, really really ill fitted verse for

1956
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,720
Speaker 1: an f w V remix that didn't get used, but

1957
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 1: they chopped up part of my verse to use that

1958
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 1: that's that's double double double V that went into right

1959
01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: here to Teddy Riley remix. Then we did Tonights Tonight.

1960
01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: Then we did looking at Me, Looking at You're looking

1961
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 1: at me right, and then we did Super Thug. Super

1962
01:58:54,600 --> 01:59:00,960
Speaker 1: Thug made every hard rapper at the time look at

1963
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: us very differently. At the time, we had did Tonights

1964
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 1: Tonight for s w V, and that was like the

1965
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 1: biggest thing we had done, with the exception of uh

1966
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 1: and I'm somewhat as produces. With the exception of Tonight Tonight.

1967
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: It made people who had heard about us look at

1968
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 1: us very differently. Why because we worked with a hard rapper. No,

1969
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:29,160
Speaker 1: because we worked with a hard character. You need to

1970
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: understand the difference. There's a hard rapper and then there's

1971
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:36,760
Speaker 1: a hard character, a hard rapper cool until the way

1972
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: you rap goes out of style. But because you were

1973
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 1: a hard character, you were more than just a rapper.

1974
01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,360
Speaker 1: You were able to do super thug. We then did

1975
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 1: oh no, like you went on to do great things.

1976
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 1: And we are sitting here where everybody in this room

1977
01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 1: to feel me, we're sitting here in you show me.

1978
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: You show me your contemporary. You showed me your peers

1979
02:00:02,320 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 1: that came out when you came out. You show me

1980
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,560
Speaker 1: what they're doing now. And we love them and we

1981
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 1: respect them, and we hold them to the highest esteem.

1982
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 1: And there's so many of them that I could get

1983
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 1: into the greatest knockdown dragouts about who had the best

1984
02:00:15,200 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 1: fucking clue mix tapes from that era. But you show me,

1985
02:00:20,520 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 1: You show me who has jay Z sending them fucking questions?

1986
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 1: You got me? Well, you show me, right, that's all

1987
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:41,320
Speaker 1: that's our big brother. He's a billionaire, like he's really

1988
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: really yeah, but yeah, to help him get to that

1989
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 1: billy right, right, you show me, you show me. I

1990
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: don't think you can. You know, podcast charting not like

1991
02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 1: podcast podcast, I'm sorry, charting podcast very different. We invented

1992
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 1: like rappers doing podcasts and making it cool. But you

1993
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 1: got your own podcast, let's past network. What is it called?

1994
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 1: The other? Ours? Yours because you had ours, this other tone,

1995
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 1: the other tone because you had you had an Apple

1996
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 1: show at first. Yeah. Well, what's his name? Broke Scott

1997
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Scott Viner, Yeah right, and that's the guy he had

1998
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 1: something to do with entourage, right, yeah, yeah, And I

1999
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 1: wanted to do it because I knew that he was

2000
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:34,320
Speaker 1: much more equipped with like discerning what is the right

2001
02:01:34,360 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 1: ship that should be on there? You know what I'm

2002
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: saying that I wanted him to have a platform because

2003
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:41,000
Speaker 1: I've always thought that he was a genius um and

2004
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: I really do believe that. And then you know the

2005
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 1: cool thing is this is him and this next turnaround,

2006
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:55,200
Speaker 1: it's it's him, myself, our brother family, right, family too,

2007
02:01:55,280 --> 02:02:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about and he just warming up.

2008
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 1: He just warming up to get ready for his own

2009
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:13,360
Speaker 1: ship um as well. But again, like it's been great man,

2010
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 1: and and and when you think back to the fact

2011
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 1: that you were early on it. First, my wife canna

2012
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 1: kill me with all this footage with my mask off,

2013
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 1: but you know what, I just needed you to see

2014
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 1: my face I wanted you to really see my face

2015
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: and hear me. Yo, you're a different guy, bro, You're different.

2016
02:02:33,080 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 1: And we've had our ups, we've had our downs, we've

2017
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 1: had our rounds. And what you did for Chad and

2018
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:47,280
Speaker 1: I and essentially everybody that I worked with, you lifted

2019
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:50,400
Speaker 1: us to a different kind of place. You should know

2020
02:02:50,520 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 1: that like you lifted us to a a different, different,

2021
02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 1: different place. And the crazy thing is the entire time

2022
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 1: beyond it all. I would say the number one characteristic

2023
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 1: of our bond and our report is that you would

2024
02:03:10,200 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 1: trust me when I say, yo, listen to me. I

2025
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 1: would shut the funk up every time I would say, yo,

2026
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 1: just trust me, listen to me. And you moment I

2027
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 1: met you, that was the first word you said to me.

2028
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:24,560
Speaker 1: You said, trust me, You're gonna go number one. And

2029
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why, I just I just I just

2030
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: always remember that moment was a sound on sound. I

2031
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 1: could listen if we go to sound, so I could

2032
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:35,960
Speaker 1: tell you the exact space we was at. I could

2033
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 1: be like you, look, you were right here. I was

2034
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,200
Speaker 1: right here, and you know what I was never wrong?

2035
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 1: You will you guess what you were never wrong? So

2036
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, do sometimes compare us to Snoop in like, oh,

2037
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 1: bro bro, super Thug, Man, Yo, do you understand super Thug?

2038
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 1: Do you understand my brother Iverson went to jail right

2039
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 1: around that time because of the chair throwing in the

2040
02:04:06,120 --> 02:04:13,000
Speaker 1: chair back. If I'm not wrong, the night that our

2041
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:16,600
Speaker 1: brother Iverson went to jail, wasn't that the night that

2042
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:18,800
Speaker 1: you guys were in the club at the bowling Alley?

2043
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:21,960
Speaker 1: Was this in Hampton or Norfolk? This is all for

2044
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:29,800
Speaker 1: Princess and Road. Look, okay, I remember my brother who

2045
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:33,920
Speaker 1: was managing him at the time. Somebody hit him over

2046
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 1: the back with a chair and they hit him so

2047
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 1: hard that he said he started speaking to two different people.

2048
02:04:45,520 --> 02:04:52,600
Speaker 1: He said, I'm making this up like Billy, because that's

2049
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 1: the story he told me when he got hit with

2050
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:57,400
Speaker 1: that chair. It was a different night, but that's what

2051
02:04:57,560 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 1: super Thug was doing the people. As my point, Fam

2052
02:05:01,080 --> 02:05:03,240
Speaker 1: is correct. That was a different night, but that's what

2053
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 1: that's what Super Thug was doing to people. And Rob

2054
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 1: Walker was calling me from New York like, Yo, Yo,

2055
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: do you understand what this song? One of y'all gonna

2056
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 1: record this for me and give me that sound. Somebody

2057
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 1: is gonna give me that sound, and it just was

2058
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 1: a different time, bro, Like that record changed the mentality

2059
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 1: of how people were thinking. And another forget Chris was like, man,

2060
02:05:35,040 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when you're coming wrapping in my

2061
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 1: office and like we went and signed, y'all. He was

2062
02:05:41,800 --> 02:05:46,120
Speaker 1: like he felt differently about it then, and he was

2063
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: chrisly was a genius. Love to Chris Lighty and his

2064
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 1: children and his spirit wherever it is right now in

2065
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,800
Speaker 1: the universe, because if it ever existed, it still exists.

2066
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 1: Where just because you can't hear it don't mean it

2067
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:06,160
Speaker 1: don't exist. It's here and it might talk to some people.

2068
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Chris Lidy is here. And

2069
02:06:09,440 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 1: Chris Man, you had the most amazing vision, the idea

2070
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:18,840
Speaker 1: that you were able to see into Cameron and see

2071
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 1: into Noriega, and see into Missy and see into Buster

2072
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 1: and see into q Tip. Y'all understand that this man

2073
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 1: was just going, Oh, you're like us. You're your violator,

2074
02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 1: your violator, your violator, and your violator and your violator.

2075
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 1: Chris Lity had the fucking vision, Broa Like, I'm sorry,

2076
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: I just had to just take a moment just for him.

2077
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: And the Purple Rain is kicked in and it's and

2078
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: it's this is how happens. And by the way, no disrespect,

2079
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 1: but it's Swan, right, it's not like that. We're not

2080
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm not from New York, so that's not me like

2081
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:08,839
Speaker 1: with the New York Act saying saying swine swan. It's swan.

2082
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,760
Speaker 1: It's here in Miami. It's me and Dave Groutman and

2083
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:14,920
Speaker 1: purple rain is one of our drinks. Right away, did

2084
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:17,120
Speaker 1: you realize Tony Tony Tony was this in New York

2085
02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:21,240
Speaker 1: from back in the days to New York from back

2086
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 1: in the day and never fains and south thank Calforn. Yeah,

2087
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:30,920
Speaker 1: he said it may be cold on the East Coast

2088
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:39,600
Speaker 1: on the other side of town. You never noticed that

2089
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:45,840
Speaker 1: Tony Tony is a foul people. Raphael City doesn't strike

2090
02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:49,840
Speaker 1: me that. I'm gonna tell you why, Okay, because I

2091
02:07:49,920 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 1: was gonna say, because he's like our weather conditions. But

2092
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 1: you never saying he said East coast. He just say

2093
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,080
Speaker 1: in New York. He could have been Boston. Yeah, but

2094
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 1: you just just you just to turn the tri state

2095
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 1: areas just the East coast. Just determined that earlier about

2096
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:10,440
Speaker 1: thirteen minutes he was circumstantial minutes. Look, I don't know

2097
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 1: that rafaels the deep mean that just because Rafael is

2098
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: such a loving guy and him and Q Tip are

2099
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 1: so fucking close. In D'Angelo, who was also from Virginia, Richmond, Virginia,

2100
02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:25,160
Speaker 1: he loved he loves those guys so much. I can't imagine.

2101
02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 1: All right, God that let's make some Luis. I'll keep

2102
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:35,480
Speaker 1: it in Fox. So this is really nice, man Madonna, Yes, sir,

2103
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:42,600
Speaker 1: where are you at? Madonna calls you. He says, I

2104
02:08:42,680 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 1: want you to be Tiger King. Did you say I

2105
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 1: want you to be Tiger King? I don't know. I

2106
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:51,920
Speaker 1: don't know why, you know, I don't know why I

2107
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 1: thought that. Let it wants you to be the king

2108
02:08:58,520 --> 02:09:09,400
Speaker 1: from Flix. No mcdonna call. No, he was too wild

2109
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 1: because you had the Michael Jackson call first. Right, So

2110
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: when did you get the mcdonna call? The Madonna call

2111
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:31,560
Speaker 1: was definitely in the two thousands. Um, I want to say,

2112
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 1: I was still working at the Marlin at time. Does

2113
02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:47,080
Speaker 1: he already have black children? I'm asking? No, this is real, yeah, serious, Yeah,

2114
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 1: she had children already? She had black children? UM? Bad?

2115
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:58,880
Speaker 1: Those weird, But I gotta ask because I just want

2116
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:02,120
Speaker 1: you to know so super clear. How you do this ship?

2117
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 1: Super clear? The real questions coming on in the fourth quarter,

2118
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 1: ye jay z No, some Madonna calls you. Oh yeah,

2119
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 1: this is real. Madonna calls and she's like, yo, let's

2120
02:10:36,640 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 1: get together. And I'm like, okay, she's aggressive. I feel

2121
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 1: like mcdonna's aggressive. She's aggressive, she's aggressive, she's outpul female.

2122
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:49,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like that she's aggressive. Um he's like,

2123
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:52,520
Speaker 1: I wanna let's make some music. I love what you

2124
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:57,160
Speaker 1: guys do. And it's cool. So we we you know,

2125
02:10:57,240 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm going back between Florida, my in me and um

2126
02:11:05,640 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 1: London and we work on Hard Candy h And that

2127
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 1: was cool and it was It's interesting because she worked

2128
02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:18,960
Speaker 1: with me and then also she had a conversation with

2129
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:22,120
Speaker 1: Tim too, and Tim knew her too because he knew

2130
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:24,480
Speaker 1: her from before when he was with with DeVante and

2131
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:27,280
Speaker 1: DeVante had worked on her album, so they knew each other.

2132
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 1: So excuse me. So when we went in and like

2133
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:34,680
Speaker 1: we just did a bunch of records, it's interesting because

2134
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:39,880
Speaker 1: one record that we did call on and On, we

2135
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:43,879
Speaker 1: put Kanye on this early in his career with Madonna

2136
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,680
Speaker 1: looking listening On and On, He's on that record, his

2137
02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 1: mama came to the studio and literally, like I want

2138
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:53,879
Speaker 1: to say, a little while after that when she passed.

2139
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:56,600
Speaker 1: It's crazy. That was last time I saw her. She

2140
02:11:56,680 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 1: came to the session with Madonnald's bless Yeah. Absolutely, sorry

2141
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:12,440
Speaker 1: to take my trains out. Um, that was a crazy time. Donna. Yeah,

2142
02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:17,400
Speaker 1: what did you do with Madonna? So? Look, you have Madonna, Prince,

2143
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, who else from the eighties? Did you the

2144
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:25,120
Speaker 1: biggest artist in the world. Yeah? I ain't gonna lie.

2145
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. If you actually retire right now,

2146
02:12:28,240 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 1: no one will be mad at you because I feel

2147
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:32,160
Speaker 1: like you worked with everybody. Is this somebody you didn't

2148
02:12:32,200 --> 02:12:36,200
Speaker 1: work with that you wanted to work with? I don't know, man.

2149
02:12:36,280 --> 02:12:38,040
Speaker 1: People asked me that, They've been asked me that for

2150
02:12:38,080 --> 02:12:41,640
Speaker 1: about ten years. I love working you. So have you

2151
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:44,640
Speaker 1: worked with everyone on your wish list? Is your wish

2152
02:12:44,680 --> 02:12:50,040
Speaker 1: list complete? Nah? Who? Who? Who? Don't tell me Gucci bad?

2153
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:57,080
Speaker 1: We work with Gucci, I work with Goodier. Do somebody

2154
02:12:57,160 --> 02:12:59,920
Speaker 1: you want to work with you haven't worked with? That's

2155
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:08,480
Speaker 1: live pretty much everybody I've wanted to work with. We

2156
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 1: always end up finding our way working together, not one soul.

2157
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 1: Older people, those are the ones that say no, they shady.

2158
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:25,320
Speaker 1: We were able to do a remix for Prince. We

2159
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:29,080
Speaker 1: did a remix for he was gone already. No, we

2160
02:13:29,200 --> 02:13:33,040
Speaker 1: did the greatest romance ever been told, the greatest, greatest

2161
02:13:33,080 --> 02:13:35,800
Speaker 1: story that's ever been told, greatest romance. I'm sorry forgive

2162
02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:44,760
Speaker 1: me one of the two. Yeah, Prince Michael. I never

2163
02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 1: worked with Michael. Michael was amazing. Though. Michael called a

2164
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:53,480
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yeah. One time you and Justin was

2165
02:13:53,560 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 1: in the studio again, Yeah, and he called when you

2166
02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:58,960
Speaker 1: was justin st Yeah, and he's eating popcorners. He was

2167
02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:01,400
Speaker 1: eating popcorn in my She was crazy. I was like,

2168
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 1: That's when I knew it was him. I was like,

2169
02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: this is because that's his normal to eat popcorn. You

2170
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:09,680
Speaker 1: call you over and over and over again and then

2171
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:14,000
Speaker 1: start eating popcorn. I was like, I'm thinking of Thriller

2172
02:14:14,040 --> 02:14:17,720
Speaker 1: when he's watching the movie he's I'm like, Yo, this

2173
02:14:17,880 --> 02:14:25,680
Speaker 1: is definitely definitely him. And what was he And he

2174
02:14:25,800 --> 02:14:30,160
Speaker 1: was in the studio with Justice. Yeah, in the studio

2175
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,760
Speaker 1: with Justin. And this is another story that I read

2176
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:37,520
Speaker 1: that was very At some point, Clips was on job,

2177
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:47,480
Speaker 1: Justin was on Jove Clips called beef with Job and

2178
02:14:47,640 --> 02:14:50,520
Speaker 1: you chose not to work with Justice because he was

2179
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:54,680
Speaker 1: on job? What was because you know, I imagine you

2180
02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:58,840
Speaker 1: guys are friends. What's that conversation like? What is that like?

2181
02:14:59,040 --> 02:15:02,560
Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't know, it's getting a little deep,

2182
02:15:02,600 --> 02:15:06,720
Speaker 1: but you know, I chose what you chose not to

2183
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:12,320
Speaker 1: work with Justin because because honestly, it was the advice

2184
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:15,880
Speaker 1: that I was given, and Justin took that super personal

2185
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:25,000
Speaker 1: legal advice. I plead the fifth Okay, so whatever, But

2186
02:15:25,080 --> 02:15:28,440
Speaker 1: now that's when I don't snitch. But I will say

2187
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:37,120
Speaker 1: that my my the advice seal out there. Bro, Yeah,

2188
02:15:37,280 --> 02:15:40,240
Speaker 1: my team and advised not to do that, not to

2189
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 1: continue to work with Justice. Just no, no, just to say, Job,

2190
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 1: I can't work on anything that y'all have because I

2191
02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 1: need you all to do right by the clips. But

2192
02:15:49,960 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 1: that's not how they told it to Justin and and

2193
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:54,760
Speaker 1: and he was very disappointed by that because he would

2194
02:15:54,800 --> 02:15:57,200
Speaker 1: have understood that had it been explained a certain ways. Yeah,

2195
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,560
Speaker 1: but then you know, I just give the advice was

2196
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:02,000
Speaker 1: bad and the execution was bad. And I had to

2197
02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:04,680
Speaker 1: bribe with that because I didn't think that all the

2198
02:16:04,760 --> 02:16:06,640
Speaker 1: way through to be like, no, you're all wrong about this.

2199
02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,120
Speaker 1: We this is not excuse me, this is not Wow,

2200
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm twisted. This is not how we should do this.

2201
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:15,840
Speaker 1: We should explain this to him so he can be

2202
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:19,960
Speaker 1: in choreography with us, you know. And I regret that

2203
02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:24,200
Speaker 1: because still to this day it's like, I mean, we

2204
02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:26,920
Speaker 1: talked about it, but still to this day, it's one

2205
02:16:26,960 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 1: of those things that I look at and go, Damn.

2206
02:16:29,080 --> 02:16:31,760
Speaker 1: If I were the person that I am now, I

2207
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 1: would have totally told my younger self, Yo, don't do that.

2208
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:38,280
Speaker 1: That's just that's not right, Like that's your that's that's

2209
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:42,560
Speaker 1: that's your team thinking shortsighted. They thinking zoomed, and they're

2210
02:16:42,560 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 1: not thinking zoomed out. Because at the end of the day,

2211
02:16:45,959 --> 02:16:48,600
Speaker 1: as a producer, you could have said, yo, let me

2212
02:16:48,640 --> 02:16:51,640
Speaker 1: still get this money on the side. So what what

2213
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 1: made you take that stance and say, you know what,

2214
02:16:53,560 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay. I mean, I know you kind of

2215
02:16:57,720 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 1: explained that, but I just want to get it the

2216
02:17:00,080 --> 02:17:02,000
Speaker 1: artist friends, because you know, you could have been like

2217
02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 1: yr Clips, Yo, listen, I get it, that's y'all beef

2218
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:08,320
Speaker 1: with job. But you know I got this whole justin

2219
02:17:08,680 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 1: these were my brothers, you know, and Justin as my

2220
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,520
Speaker 1: brother and as far as I was concerned, and the

2221
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:18,600
Speaker 1: way it was explained to me, which made sense at

2222
02:17:18,640 --> 02:17:21,560
Speaker 1: the time, like he would get it, he'd be okay

2223
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:23,360
Speaker 1: if we just needed to delay a couple of months

2224
02:17:23,400 --> 02:17:25,440
Speaker 1: for the record label to do the right thing. When

2225
02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:27,720
Speaker 1: you said he would he would get you too much, Justin. Yeah,

2226
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:31,120
Speaker 1: but he didn't get it because we never gave together.

2227
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 1: We could have strategized better and would have been he

2228
02:17:34,640 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 1: would have been, but that's not what happened, you know.

2229
02:17:37,879 --> 02:17:39,920
Speaker 1: And they told him, Yo, this guy doesn't care about you,

2230
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, and they turned him against me. And it

2231
02:17:42,480 --> 02:17:46,320
Speaker 1: took a minute how long you're talking about two year period?

2232
02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:49,840
Speaker 1: It was different. We had a very um, you know,

2233
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:55,320
Speaker 1: we had a very uh. It was very strenuous, and

2234
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 1: he was being made to convince that like I felt

2235
02:17:57,840 --> 02:18:01,360
Speaker 1: like I was more than what I was to him.

2236
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:06,000
Speaker 1: And really all justin Justin was a friend to me,

2237
02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:09,000
Speaker 1: and I was a friend to him, and you know,

2238
02:18:09,080 --> 02:18:10,880
Speaker 1: when he was going through tough times, I was there

2239
02:18:10,959 --> 02:18:12,880
Speaker 1: for him, and when I was going through tough times,

2240
02:18:13,080 --> 02:18:16,680
Speaker 1: he was there for me. But they but they they

2241
02:18:16,840 --> 02:18:21,199
Speaker 1: vilified me to him. And when you're young, and even

2242
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, everything essentially goes right for you, and something

2243
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:28,560
Speaker 1: goes left, and there's a person that you've known for

2244
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 1: a minute and they go and it seems like they're

2245
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:33,120
Speaker 1: going left on you. You're gonna feel a certain kind

2246
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:35,720
Speaker 1: of way. I understood that they painted a picture a

2247
02:18:35,760 --> 02:18:38,520
Speaker 1: certain kind of way. He didn't really understand that I

2248
02:18:38,680 --> 02:18:40,880
Speaker 1: was just trying to stand in solidarity with my brothers,

2249
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:42,480
Speaker 1: and I should have brought him along with me on

2250
02:18:42,560 --> 02:18:45,280
Speaker 1: that journey. He actually could have helped us change that narrative.

2251
02:18:46,080 --> 02:18:49,040
Speaker 1: But the advice that I was given, I trusted to

2252
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:52,240
Speaker 1: stay away from job period and not cut him off.

2253
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:54,760
Speaker 1: Not cut him off, but just like, no, I can't

2254
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:57,000
Speaker 1: work on nothing for you all right now? But what

2255
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:58,880
Speaker 1: about justin? He's not your brother. And then they went

2256
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:04,480
Speaker 1: back and took my words and it's like no, they

2257
02:19:04,560 --> 02:19:06,520
Speaker 1: went back and just took my words to the you know,

2258
02:19:06,640 --> 02:19:09,440
Speaker 1: it just totally blew it out to him, and he

2259
02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 1: and I talked eventually, and that's when I explained to him, like, no, listen,

2260
02:19:12,320 --> 02:19:14,040
Speaker 1: this is what I was trying to do, but I

2261
02:19:14,120 --> 02:19:16,440
Speaker 1: should have involved you. That was my mistake because I

2262
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:22,000
Speaker 1: didn't think holistically. My greatest fault in this lifetime is

2263
02:19:22,040 --> 02:19:28,680
Speaker 1: it sometimes I'm too zoomed in. M meaning like, sometimes

2264
02:19:28,760 --> 02:19:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm just sometimes I'm just too zoomed in, and sometimes

2265
02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:37,160
Speaker 1: I need to zoom out. Sometimes we all need a

2266
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:39,240
Speaker 1: zoom out. Sometimes we're just thinking about what we're going

2267
02:19:39,280 --> 02:19:41,720
Speaker 1: through and what what we need, And even if it's

2268
02:19:41,800 --> 02:19:44,520
Speaker 1: for somebody else, it's still too zoomed in. You got

2269
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:49,879
Speaker 1: you gotta m out, you gotta zoom out. You gotta

2270
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:52,560
Speaker 1: have a bigger picture of things. Make sure you guys

2271
02:19:52,600 --> 02:20:01,920
Speaker 1: can hear me when I say that. Man, this is great.

2272
02:20:03,440 --> 02:20:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna puol me some more US space anybody wants.

2273
02:20:07,240 --> 02:20:14,840
Speaker 1: You're giving it out the first yet better drinking space

2274
02:20:14,959 --> 02:20:22,080
Speaker 1: right now, because you know why, Man, this is the

2275
02:20:22,160 --> 02:20:29,840
Speaker 1: best producer of all fucking times in my in my life. Um,

2276
02:20:30,240 --> 02:20:36,200
Speaker 1: you know I was. I don't want to say a

2277
02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:38,560
Speaker 1: local wrapper because I want to say the War Report

2278
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:41,200
Speaker 1: is a classic? What do you mean you want to say?

2279
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:43,440
Speaker 1: Are you saying? Are you taking it? I want a

2280
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:46,680
Speaker 1: ship of that. Yeah, you know it's zoomed out. It's

2281
02:20:46,680 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 1: a classic. Now we all understand that. But maybe when

2282
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:53,120
Speaker 1: you was in that moment, you didn't know, and like

2283
02:20:53,240 --> 02:20:55,560
Speaker 1: I said, when I met this man that was right

2284
02:20:55,640 --> 02:20:57,640
Speaker 1: here to my left of me, and he said, man

2285
02:20:58,959 --> 02:21:05,920
Speaker 1: listened to me, and I listened to you, and my

2286
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:09,200
Speaker 1: life has never been the same since. And you know,

2287
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:12,120
Speaker 1: I know, I'm glad what you're saying to me, but

2288
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,160
Speaker 1: I want to give you your flowers while you're here

2289
02:21:14,320 --> 02:21:20,080
Speaker 1: because it changed my life because it was a different sound,

2290
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:22,840
Speaker 1: just like Band from TV was a different sound. Like

2291
02:21:22,920 --> 02:21:26,360
Speaker 1: when Band from TV dropped, people were sitting around like

2292
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:29,560
Speaker 1: that's what ship is not I give it even better.

2293
02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:33,520
Speaker 1: I'll give you even better example forever. And this is

2294
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:40,440
Speaker 1: my friend, Um, Big Tiger, thank you, bro, take it

2295
02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:42,600
Speaker 1: from the basement. Yeah, you know what he said to

2296
02:21:42,680 --> 02:21:44,840
Speaker 1: me after old old drop And I swear to God,

2297
02:21:45,240 --> 02:21:48,879
Speaker 1: this is on my father's life. Big Ticket says, stopped

2298
02:21:48,879 --> 02:21:51,960
Speaker 1: working with the Neptunes. All that ships sound the same.

2299
02:21:56,560 --> 02:22:01,000
Speaker 1: I will never say this. Um, Then you do you

2300
02:22:01,160 --> 02:22:05,440
Speaker 1: understand who Big Tigger was at this moment. And he

2301
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:09,160
Speaker 1: sat there and I had I had super dog that

2302
02:22:09,280 --> 02:22:14,160
Speaker 1: I had. Oh no, he was in control of the

2303
02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 1: biggest fucking hip hop station at the time. He pulled

2304
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:22,360
Speaker 1: me to the side, stopped working with the Neptunes. I

2305
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:25,320
Speaker 1: looked at him I wanted to do. I don't this

2306
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:32,840
Speaker 1: is the old nor what I said to myself. I'm

2307
02:22:32,879 --> 02:22:36,600
Speaker 1: all right, I know where this is gonna go. And

2308
02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I've never revealed this story ever in my life,

2309
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:46,320
Speaker 1: so as a woman. But said there was there was there.

2310
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:50,640
Speaker 1: I want to just say this. I mean, you didn't

2311
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 1: asked me. It wasn't the thing that was that warranted

2312
02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:57,600
Speaker 1: a response. It was just like interesting information. But I

2313
02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:02,800
Speaker 1: want to say to him, listen, love, brother, you know

2314
02:23:02,920 --> 02:23:05,960
Speaker 1: that's what you felt at the time. That's what you felt.

2315
02:23:06,959 --> 02:23:10,440
Speaker 1: And you know what, at that time I might have sounded,

2316
02:23:10,520 --> 02:23:13,800
Speaker 1: we might have sounded like everything that we did was repetitious.

2317
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:17,160
Speaker 1: And I knew I needed to grow beyond that. And

2318
02:23:17,320 --> 02:23:21,240
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm grateful. I'm grateful that he felt

2319
02:23:21,280 --> 02:23:24,480
Speaker 1: the same thing we might have felt of our excuse me,

2320
02:23:24,840 --> 02:23:26,960
Speaker 1: that we might have felt at the time. And I

2321
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:32,840
Speaker 1: appreciate your loyalty and I appreciate his loyalty to the game. Uh,

2322
02:23:33,560 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 1: none of us are mad. He is somewhere doing what

2323
02:23:35,800 --> 02:23:39,600
Speaker 1: he's doing and being the very greatest everybody's doing. You're

2324
02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:42,640
Speaker 1: you're at the greatest height of what you're doing. And

2325
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:46,400
Speaker 1: I am still just saying thank you God, but really

2326
02:23:46,440 --> 02:23:49,360
Speaker 1: quick to piggyback of all this as a DJ, though

2327
02:23:49,640 --> 02:23:54,320
Speaker 1: originally I could hear the same sounds, but I started

2328
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:58,000
Speaker 1: to say, this is genius because you could these records

2329
02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:01,160
Speaker 1: seamlessly going to each other and then be the whole

2330
02:24:01,240 --> 02:24:04,240
Speaker 1: sound right right, but then even going even further coming

2331
02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, out of Miami and the Caribbean being very

2332
02:24:07,480 --> 02:24:10,360
Speaker 1: influential too, what we do. I'm looking at dance all

2333
02:24:10,440 --> 02:24:14,240
Speaker 1: and how the rhythms all it's the same rhythmic yeah, yeah,

2334
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:16,280
Speaker 1: So was there any thought like that to what you

2335
02:24:16,320 --> 02:24:18,400
Speaker 1: guys were doing? So I fell in love with the

2336
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:24,760
Speaker 1: clap of chord because it could be as radical as

2337
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:31,160
Speaker 1: a guitar riff from like led Zeppelin or Metallica, and

2338
02:24:31,480 --> 02:24:39,920
Speaker 1: it could also be as rhythmic as um, you know,

2339
02:24:40,120 --> 02:24:46,040
Speaker 1: more technical music, and so we were very loyal to

2340
02:24:46,160 --> 02:24:52,680
Speaker 1: that for a while. Um and I think, and I

2341
02:24:52,720 --> 02:24:55,320
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I did. The very first time

2342
02:24:55,360 --> 02:24:57,360
Speaker 1: we ever used a clap chord was on Super though,

2343
02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:01,480
Speaker 1: so when you're do dot dot dot dot dot dot dot.

2344
02:25:01,720 --> 02:25:04,960
Speaker 1: And then after that we were given the remix to

2345
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:08,880
Speaker 1: the Backstreet Boys record, and then we were giving the remix,

2346
02:25:09,920 --> 02:25:16,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, superb Man, and then we were given um,

2347
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:20,400
Speaker 1: then we were given the remix to a Locks record

2348
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:24,120
Speaker 1: h and then it just it's just that's when the

2349
02:25:24,200 --> 02:25:28,160
Speaker 1: Neptune sound. But it started with super Thub because if

2350
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:31,920
Speaker 1: you listen to uh when This Feeling by STBUV or

2351
02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:42,520
Speaker 1: you listen to um uh um use your Heart by STV,

2352
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:44,680
Speaker 1: which was the bigger song because that was a single,

2353
02:25:45,560 --> 02:25:47,960
Speaker 1: it didn't have that particular sound. If you listen to

2354
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:50,840
Speaker 1: it tonight tonight, it didn't have that particular sound either.

2355
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:56,760
Speaker 1: We developed our sound after we've made super Thub, but

2356
02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:59,840
Speaker 1: you guys consciously say, well, this is our signature sound. Now,

2357
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:02,440
Speaker 1: we never said it. We just kept going back to

2358
02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:05,720
Speaker 1: what felt good. And that's like a thing for me,

2359
02:26:06,680 --> 02:26:09,000
Speaker 1: like I might not like some people are so good

2360
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:12,119
Speaker 1: at what they do that they make a declaration. I've

2361
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:13,720
Speaker 1: never been good at that, and every time I make

2362
02:26:13,760 --> 02:26:16,520
Speaker 1: a declaration, I'm wrong. So I've learned to not make

2363
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:22,920
Speaker 1: a declaration and just continue to declare my action. And

2364
02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:26,600
Speaker 1: that clavichord that's what gave us that which is not

2365
02:26:26,800 --> 02:26:29,280
Speaker 1: new because like for example, like Premiere, you knew what

2366
02:26:29,400 --> 02:26:31,880
Speaker 1: a Premiere beat sounding. It was the sounds of it

2367
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:40,000
Speaker 1: premier but celebrated enough. But let me just say I

2368
02:26:40,120 --> 02:26:46,160
Speaker 1: gotta say this, that Neptune Run is nothing like Listen,

2369
02:26:46,240 --> 02:26:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm because I got to be honest. What would you

2370
02:26:48,200 --> 02:26:52,720
Speaker 1: say that the Neptune Run when after after oh no,

2371
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:56,680
Speaker 1: after that, No, there was entire mixed shows of just

2372
02:26:57,520 --> 02:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Neptune record. People still send me faking up tune beats.

2373
02:27:01,040 --> 02:27:05,600
Speaker 1: I love it. Let me, Oh my god, I can't.

2374
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:12,680
Speaker 1: I know the guy, but what do you understand? Like,

2375
02:27:13,560 --> 02:27:16,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it's It's one of the proudest

2376
02:27:16,720 --> 02:27:23,440
Speaker 1: moments of my career, is because I had a chance

2377
02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:28,560
Speaker 1: to believe in you guys. And like I said, you

2378
02:27:28,760 --> 02:27:32,680
Speaker 1: you gave me the every baby you want me and

2379
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:35,120
Speaker 1: I've brung it to Nas. Nas didn't get it. I

2380
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:38,840
Speaker 1: forget what what for Jay? But we can leave that alone.

2381
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:44,520
Speaker 1: But to see where you at, it's a beautiful thing

2382
02:27:44,959 --> 02:27:53,480
Speaker 1: for me. You understand nobody clear, Listen, listen, I'm gonna

2383
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:59,680
Speaker 1: say this again. Please, good, bad and different up down

2384
02:28:00,920 --> 02:28:16,800
Speaker 1: around what we were you like were you y'all know

2385
02:28:16,840 --> 02:28:21,000
Speaker 1: what you're doing here too with this motherfucking we love

2386
02:28:21,040 --> 02:28:24,840
Speaker 1: and we're being family in here, like two minutes what

2387
02:28:24,959 --> 02:28:26,840
Speaker 1: y'all doing here. Y'all know what, y'all know what the

2388
02:28:26,879 --> 02:28:29,640
Speaker 1: funk you're doing. You have fun. This is definitely a

2389
02:28:29,720 --> 02:28:33,640
Speaker 1: formulator works. We have fun. And our big brother isn't

2390
02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:38,480
Speaker 1: just leaning in and sending them bottle for nothing. But

2391
02:28:39,520 --> 02:28:45,480
Speaker 1: oh shoot, I gotta finish my purple rain purple fill

2392
02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:48,160
Speaker 1: them up. I was filling them up. Holy Moly, guaka mole.

2393
02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 1: You tell me what to stop Pete m h ship.

2394
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:55,480
Speaker 1: Do you know what holy Moley is? Definitely don't so.

2395
02:28:55,640 --> 02:29:00,040
Speaker 1: Moley is this herb that was given to someone and

2396
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:10,160
Speaker 1: back to stop him from being under a spell. Yeah,

2397
02:29:10,360 --> 02:29:12,440
Speaker 1: they were trying to like put him under a spell

2398
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:16,440
Speaker 1: and they yeah, and they gave him this what was

2399
02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:20,360
Speaker 1: called moley m O M m O l y And

2400
02:29:20,440 --> 02:29:23,160
Speaker 1: that's why we say holy Moly to this day. But

2401
02:29:23,400 --> 02:29:25,960
Speaker 1: moley was was something that was given to him to

2402
02:29:26,080 --> 02:29:30,640
Speaker 1: keep him from not falling under the spell of over sorceress.

2403
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:34,240
Speaker 1: Actually not meduced. It was a sorceress who turned all

2404
02:29:34,480 --> 02:29:39,000
Speaker 1: of uh, Okay, maybe I'm mixing this up. This was

2405
02:29:39,080 --> 02:29:45,320
Speaker 1: given to run you know, Odyssey, Odysseus am I saying

2406
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:49,119
Speaker 1: it right? Okay, Well, so it was given to him

2407
02:29:49,160 --> 02:29:53,000
Speaker 1: to stop him from turning into a pig, like they

2408
02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:55,960
Speaker 1: turned the rest of his squad into um and he

2409
02:29:56,120 --> 02:29:59,640
Speaker 1: was able to like, you know, convince her to like

2410
02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:03,280
Speaker 1: take the spell off of his of his guys and

2411
02:30:03,560 --> 02:30:06,720
Speaker 1: turn them back into human beings from the swine that

2412
02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:09,400
Speaker 1: she turned them into. And then he liked had like

2413
02:30:09,520 --> 02:30:11,360
Speaker 1: to make love to her for like a like a

2414
02:30:11,440 --> 02:30:15,320
Speaker 1: four year straight. But Moley is what is a herb

2415
02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:17,800
Speaker 1: that she gave him? That that that that that made

2416
02:30:17,879 --> 02:30:20,600
Speaker 1: him immune to the to the spell that she was

2417
02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 1: putting him under. And we had to walk Yeah, it's

2418
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:33,320
Speaker 1: not Hercules's odyss Odysseus. Oh the person you mean? Yeah,

2419
02:30:35,280 --> 02:30:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut that shows like purple man. Is that Swan?

2420
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:45,080
Speaker 1: You guys got to go to Swan. It's in the

2421
02:30:45,160 --> 02:30:48,480
Speaker 1: design district. So is this a perfect cold that we

2422
02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:52,960
Speaker 1: have to say you gotta have. It's gonna be a secret.

2423
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:57,760
Speaker 1: It's not Swine's Swan. So here's the thing. I knew

2424
02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:00,320
Speaker 1: that was a thing. You went to the bathroom and

2425
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:04,040
Speaker 1: I said, you guys, I'm not from New York. I'm

2426
02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:06,280
Speaker 1: not from New York either, right, And so if you

2427
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:11,040
Speaker 1: say you said Swan, Swan people from New York. I

2428
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:15,280
Speaker 1: think you're saying swine, right, Yeah, that's just swine, but

2429
02:31:15,400 --> 02:31:18,720
Speaker 1: we really means swan. It's really the thing that floats

2430
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:20,600
Speaker 1: on top, but it's really doing a lot of work

2431
02:31:20,680 --> 02:31:26,920
Speaker 1: on the bottom. Swan the bird. Yes, Dave Grupman, myself,

2432
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:32,400
Speaker 1: Alex Perez and also interior designer Can Folk well only

2433
02:31:32,440 --> 02:31:34,240
Speaker 1: say that there's a restaurant called Swine down the street.

2434
02:31:34,280 --> 02:31:38,640
Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah, we're not swine. Swine's actually been in there. No, no, no,

2435
02:31:38,760 --> 02:31:41,160
Speaker 1: it's actually really yeah, but we're swan. We're want to

2436
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:44,000
Speaker 1: design just strict right across from time four. Okay, yes,

2437
02:31:44,120 --> 02:31:53,920
Speaker 1: I've been there a couple of times. Liquors yeah, hit that. Ready,

2438
02:31:54,000 --> 02:31:56,600
Speaker 1: this is called quick time with Slin. This is just

2439
02:31:56,680 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 1: one of the other ready. Yeah, I feel like I

2440
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:07,320
Speaker 1: need your whole intention. Okay, sorry, I'm going away for you. Okay,

2441
02:32:07,360 --> 02:32:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm here. Are you ready? I'm good? J Or Snoop

2442
02:32:12,080 --> 02:32:19,280
Speaker 1: both Terry Rowdy or Quincy both this noise or that noise?

2443
02:32:26,760 --> 02:32:31,120
Speaker 1: I love? I love Timper car Yeah both just a

2444
02:32:31,200 --> 02:32:41,080
Speaker 1: timper leg or Robin Dick? Who's that? Who's your both?

2445
02:32:42,840 --> 02:32:48,280
Speaker 1: Nicky or Cardi b both? You have some random people?

2446
02:32:50,760 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 1: All right, I'm just gonna police both. And I gotta

2447
02:32:55,800 --> 02:33:01,480
Speaker 1: tell you, let's please you know. I love them both,

2448
02:33:03,280 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 1: and and and and and and given given all of

2449
02:33:07,840 --> 02:33:12,800
Speaker 1: everything that I'm going through, like it's man, I love

2450
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:17,760
Speaker 1: them both despite all everything. I love Calise, man. I

2451
02:33:17,879 --> 02:33:23,920
Speaker 1: want the best for her, despite everything. Girl from right, No,

2452
02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:27,400
Speaker 1: that wasn't my girlfriend, no no, no, no, yeah he

2453
02:33:27,480 --> 02:33:32,520
Speaker 1: went he went side. But you know what, she's definitely

2454
02:33:32,600 --> 02:33:37,920
Speaker 1: somebody who taught me about fashion um and um. I

2455
02:33:38,000 --> 02:33:40,000
Speaker 1: felt like we both taught each other about music and

2456
02:33:40,240 --> 02:33:45,880
Speaker 1: art um and we made fantastic music together. I love

2457
02:33:45,959 --> 02:33:48,119
Speaker 1: her and I want nothing but the best for her.

2458
02:33:49,879 --> 02:33:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm nothing, but I'm only like Calise is like a

2459
02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:55,400
Speaker 1: sister to me. I'm only going to have positive things

2460
02:33:55,480 --> 02:33:58,240
Speaker 1: to say, period. That's it. And when it comes to

2461
02:33:58,360 --> 02:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Missy like we were born in the same state, like man,

2462
02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:06,440
Speaker 1: we may on and all together. That's amazing. But man,

2463
02:34:06,720 --> 02:34:10,480
Speaker 1: Missy Elliott, I need Missy here on Dreams. Elliott is

2464
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:16,240
Speaker 1: like she's a fucking dream like like period, like she

2465
02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:19,560
Speaker 1: was at Adidas before I got There's an uber legend, man. Yeah,

2466
02:34:19,959 --> 02:34:24,280
Speaker 1: so listen for the both of them, absolutely nothing but

2467
02:34:24,400 --> 02:34:29,520
Speaker 1: love and respect. I'm not gonna actually no more. It

2468
02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 1: was clear that you was like the very everybody. It's

2469
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:35,240
Speaker 1: love for everybody. I love that about you for us,

2470
02:34:35,640 --> 02:34:43,200
Speaker 1: he makes a noise for yourself. No, here's what I

2471
02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:45,840
Speaker 1: want to make noise for. I want to make noise

2472
02:34:45,920 --> 02:34:49,360
Speaker 1: for God. Man, bro, I'm gonna take my masks off

2473
02:34:49,400 --> 02:34:53,920
Speaker 1: of this one. For God. Listen. I'm talking about mistakes. Listen.

2474
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,760
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. But she could be what

2475
02:34:55,840 --> 02:34:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm about to say could be Swiss cheese, the funk

2476
02:34:58,480 --> 02:35:12,279
Speaker 1: up mistakes, bad choices and all. God is the greatest.

2477
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:16,520
Speaker 1: Because what I was told today, you know, by my

2478
02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:19,320
Speaker 1: uncle who's a bishop. He said, you know what like

2479
02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:22,959
Speaker 1: it doesn't like you're bad mistakes or you're bad decisions

2480
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:26,400
Speaker 1: or whatever it is that makes you human. God ain't

2481
02:35:26,400 --> 02:35:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna give up on his purpose for you. Whatever God

2482
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:32,720
Speaker 1: has for you, He's gonna see to it that that

2483
02:35:32,879 --> 02:35:37,440
Speaker 1: happens because that's for him. And whatever lessons that you

2484
02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:40,480
Speaker 1: have to incurage because you've made bad decisions, that's on you.

2485
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:47,880
Speaker 1: But whatever He has for you, no man, no situation,

2486
02:35:50,000 --> 02:35:58,360
Speaker 1: and not even the ill informed or ill instinct decisions

2487
02:35:58,400 --> 02:36:00,080
Speaker 1: that you make kid get in the way of that,

2488
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:03,840
Speaker 1: because whatever fate has for you, Fate has for you.

2489
02:36:03,920 --> 02:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Whatever God God for you, no man can get in

2490
02:36:05,920 --> 02:36:09,480
Speaker 1: the way of And so for me, when you say,

2491
02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:11,280
Speaker 1: can I give it up for myself? No, no, no,

2492
02:36:11,400 --> 02:36:14,080
Speaker 1: no no no. I just want to take this time.

2493
02:36:14,120 --> 02:36:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how often y'all have done this. But man,

2494
02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:19,280
Speaker 1: I know there's alcohol in the room. I know there's

2495
02:36:19,280 --> 02:36:20,720
Speaker 1: weird in the room, and there are people who are

2496
02:36:20,760 --> 02:36:24,440
Speaker 1: gonna have judgments by me saying this. But if you

2497
02:36:24,560 --> 02:36:28,280
Speaker 1: think God is only in the in the church and

2498
02:36:28,440 --> 02:36:32,360
Speaker 1: in the synagogue and in the mosque, then you don't

2499
02:36:32,440 --> 02:36:35,080
Speaker 1: understand what this world is. You don't understand what this

2500
02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:39,520
Speaker 1: universe is. The universe is God. Bro, We are inside God.

2501
02:36:41,560 --> 02:36:43,920
Speaker 1: And so I'm just telling you right now, I'm not

2502
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:46,000
Speaker 1: giving shut up for myself what I want to in

2503
02:36:46,040 --> 02:36:48,360
Speaker 1: the super kind of you. And I know I need

2504
02:36:48,400 --> 02:36:50,760
Speaker 1: to excuse myself because the purple rain has kicked in,

2505
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:59,920
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna excuse myself bym just saying you guys,

2506
02:37:00,959 --> 02:37:04,240
Speaker 1: don't get it sucked up. God is the greatest the

2507
02:37:04,320 --> 02:37:07,640
Speaker 1: blunts in your mouth, the alcohol is in front of you,

2508
02:37:09,480 --> 02:37:13,440
Speaker 1: the entire room, and envision and feeling is in front

2509
02:37:13,480 --> 02:37:18,920
Speaker 1: of you. But make no mistake, bro, God is the greatest. God.

2510
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:25,520
Speaker 1: Damn it, God is the greatest. I feel like I

2511
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:30,320
Speaker 1: got one more, Lenna, wrap it up. So for years

2512
02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:33,840
Speaker 1: I know you for twenty years. What is it since nineties?

2513
02:37:34,360 --> 02:37:36,720
Speaker 1: I want to say since nineties seven, because the record

2514
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:40,040
Speaker 1: dropped at ninety eight and at that DA we needed

2515
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:42,560
Speaker 1: like a year in advance to drop it. So I

2516
02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:47,680
Speaker 1: want to say ninety seven. But I've never realized how

2517
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:56,800
Speaker 1: crazy you watch games spoke about the jury, okay, because

2518
02:37:56,879 --> 02:38:01,720
Speaker 1: you only do that. I know that's that mill one

2519
02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:06,400
Speaker 1: point five million people. Please, it's okay. We're gonna make

2520
02:38:06,440 --> 02:38:09,760
Speaker 1: sure no one does nothing because we kill anybody. Yeah.

2521
02:38:10,400 --> 02:38:12,480
Speaker 1: So this was in commemoration to the fact that, like

2522
02:38:12,640 --> 02:38:15,720
Speaker 1: we went to Mars in nineteen seventy six, you know,

2523
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:22,000
Speaker 1: like and you know, as as as as human beings,

2524
02:38:22,040 --> 02:38:24,959
Speaker 1: we sent our our first probe in nineteen seventy six,

2525
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:26,840
Speaker 1: and actually a woman that worked on it. Her name

2526
02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:30,080
Speaker 1: was Katherine Johnson. She was called a colored computer because

2527
02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:33,000
Speaker 1: when she came into NASA, black people were still still

2528
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:36,160
Speaker 1: deemed as colored because you produced that movie too about them,

2529
02:38:36,240 --> 02:38:39,800
Speaker 1: Yes sir, yes, yes, call Hidden Figures. So she worked

2530
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:42,160
Speaker 1: on that. She helped get that probe there. She was

2531
02:38:42,400 --> 02:38:45,960
Speaker 1: one of the mathematicians to help get that probe there

2532
02:38:46,040 --> 02:38:52,000
Speaker 1: from NASA to the surface of Mars okay Um. But

2533
02:38:52,240 --> 02:38:54,840
Speaker 1: the idea that Mars is so important to us, and

2534
02:38:54,959 --> 02:38:58,440
Speaker 1: that you know, the ones right after us are the millennials,

2535
02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:00,120
Speaker 1: are the ones after that are gen zers, and the

2536
02:39:00,200 --> 02:39:03,920
Speaker 1: ones after that our children. They have the Mars generation

2537
02:39:04,000 --> 02:39:06,279
Speaker 1: because they'll go back and forth to Mars like a snowball.

2538
02:39:07,600 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 1: They're talking about now too, Yes, sir, absolutely, So I

2539
02:39:12,879 --> 02:39:14,720
Speaker 1: say all that to say that, like, you know, you know,

2540
02:39:14,879 --> 02:39:17,840
Speaker 1: Mars is back on our horizon. It's back and popular,

2541
02:39:18,800 --> 02:39:22,240
Speaker 1: and so you know, we wanted to make a Richard

2542
02:39:22,320 --> 02:39:23,920
Speaker 1: and I wanted to make a watch that sort of

2543
02:39:23,959 --> 02:39:29,320
Speaker 1: commemorated that we really wanted. We really wanted. No one

2544
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:36,480
Speaker 1: knows Richard, yeah, Richard, Yeah. We have another one that's

2545
02:39:36,480 --> 02:39:39,000
Speaker 1: coming out pretty soon. It's already sold out, it's gone,

2546
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:41,600
Speaker 1: but it's actually going to hit the market pretty soon.

2547
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:43,959
Speaker 1: And that is the Sapphire version, which is super clear.

2548
02:39:44,520 --> 02:39:47,600
Speaker 1: So a lot of watches pride themselves on being double skeletal,

2549
02:39:47,720 --> 02:39:50,400
Speaker 1: but this entire thing is X ray, meaning you can

2550
02:39:50,440 --> 02:39:52,360
Speaker 1: see through the side. You can see the front. You

2551
02:39:52,400 --> 02:39:55,320
Speaker 1: can see through everything, not just the top and the bottom.

2552
02:39:55,480 --> 02:39:59,320
Speaker 1: Like skeletal is just the bones. But this is X

2553
02:39:59,440 --> 02:40:02,680
Speaker 1: ray we see at all leaving. Yeah, that was not

2554
02:40:02,800 --> 02:40:05,800
Speaker 1: a Dominican way to pop the bottle? What was the

2555
02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Dominican way him dancing? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, continued, you

2556
02:40:11,080 --> 02:40:14,600
Speaker 1: know it's okay, Um, so listen. By the way, you

2557
02:40:14,680 --> 02:40:16,680
Speaker 1: know what, I don't spend enough time talking about Richard.

2558
02:40:17,000 --> 02:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Richard Mill has been not only so good to me,

2559
02:40:20,640 --> 02:40:24,720
Speaker 1: but he like cares about you know, if he cares

2560
02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:28,800
Speaker 1: about children. Uh, you know what he does the various

2561
02:40:28,879 --> 02:40:31,240
Speaker 1: programs that he has and he's a watch company. But

2562
02:40:31,360 --> 02:40:36,600
Speaker 1: he sponsored so many olympiads and people who like, you know,

2563
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:40,039
Speaker 1: running the Olympics and training the Olympics and actually performing

2564
02:40:40,160 --> 02:40:44,400
Speaker 1: dancing and Olympics sorry interrupting, Yeah, yeah, breakdancing and skateboarding

2565
02:40:44,440 --> 02:40:50,400
Speaker 1: and Olympics skateboard. We get your skateboard. Yeah, you guys

2566
02:40:50,440 --> 02:40:52,120
Speaker 1: gave me the component oria and when that was that

2567
02:40:52,200 --> 02:40:55,360
Speaker 1: was hard. I'm gonna mount that bitch up and skatering

2568
02:40:55,560 --> 02:40:59,040
Speaker 1: for sure. Um. But Richard has just been so good man,

2569
02:40:59,160 --> 02:41:01,640
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, like you think,

2570
02:41:01,720 --> 02:41:04,879
Speaker 1: he's just you know with Bubba Watson and the doll

2571
02:41:05,080 --> 02:41:08,920
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever. But Richard actually really cares about like

2572
02:41:09,040 --> 02:41:11,840
Speaker 1: the youth and his like programs. He's a lot of

2573
02:41:11,920 --> 02:41:14,200
Speaker 1: programs and and and a lot of them are very

2574
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, child child and sports oriented. And I've just

2575
02:41:20,520 --> 02:41:23,400
Speaker 1: been so grateful because I've loved to watch them since

2576
02:41:23,480 --> 02:41:24,880
Speaker 1: what I was talking about it and can I have

2577
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:27,720
Speaker 1: that like that? Like I don't know what is the

2578
02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:31,880
Speaker 1: two thousand six or seven and and um, and he

2579
02:41:32,120 --> 02:41:35,840
Speaker 1: just you know, to meet the guy and see what

2580
02:41:36,000 --> 02:41:39,480
Speaker 1: he really cares about. How does this happen? Because I

2581
02:41:39,560 --> 02:41:40,920
Speaker 1: put it in can I have it like that? And

2582
02:41:41,040 --> 02:41:44,560
Speaker 1: he heard about it and he sort of sought me out.

2583
02:41:44,760 --> 02:41:46,480
Speaker 1: So he kind of came to me. It was weird,

2584
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, and then so we just started working together.

2585
02:41:50,320 --> 02:41:54,480
Speaker 1: And you know, the funniest thing is that because because

2586
02:41:54,600 --> 02:42:00,600
Speaker 1: it's because he's weird, because like I would have never

2587
02:42:00,680 --> 02:42:02,760
Speaker 1: thought to go to him at the time. That's my brother.

2588
02:42:02,840 --> 02:42:05,240
Speaker 1: Kanye Kanyu is a smart guy. Kanye, when he has

2589
02:42:05,280 --> 02:42:07,920
Speaker 1: an idea, he goes after it. For me, I would

2590
02:42:07,920 --> 02:42:10,320
Speaker 1: have these ideas and if I was lucky enough, the

2591
02:42:10,440 --> 02:42:14,000
Speaker 1: idea come to me. What happened? What Kanye came to

2592
02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:18,000
Speaker 1: you with no no example. Kanye is different because when

2593
02:42:18,040 --> 02:42:20,199
Speaker 1: he thinks things, he goes after it. And I wasn't

2594
02:42:20,280 --> 02:42:23,000
Speaker 1: like that. I was more like I would think these

2595
02:42:23,080 --> 02:42:25,320
Speaker 1: things and if I uttered them in a song, sometimes

2596
02:42:25,400 --> 02:42:28,720
Speaker 1: those things would come to be like you know. Only

2597
02:42:28,879 --> 02:42:31,560
Speaker 1: after a while I realized, oh, I gotta go after

2598
02:42:31,640 --> 02:42:34,000
Speaker 1: these things that I say, you know, I have to

2599
02:42:34,120 --> 02:42:38,199
Speaker 1: really turn to help turn them into fruition. And Richard

2600
02:42:38,240 --> 02:42:39,720
Speaker 1: Mill was one of those things where I didn't go

2601
02:42:39,800 --> 02:42:41,480
Speaker 1: after it. I said it in a song me and

2602
02:42:41,560 --> 02:42:45,320
Speaker 1: Gwen and that song can happen about that? Yeah, make

2603
02:42:45,480 --> 02:42:47,800
Speaker 1: because you just use the first name, you're killing us here. Sorry,

2604
02:42:48,720 --> 02:42:56,360
Speaker 1: listen to Purple Rains kicked that Yeah, purples fun so

2605
02:42:56,560 --> 02:43:01,080
Speaker 1: like so like so like um you know. Richard reached

2606
02:43:01,160 --> 02:43:02,840
Speaker 1: out and he was like, look, I'm so honored that

2607
02:43:02,920 --> 02:43:04,920
Speaker 1: you talked about it to saw us do something together

2608
02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:07,920
Speaker 1: and at the time Happy it came out and he

2609
02:43:08,080 --> 02:43:10,040
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I saw you do kid, I have

2610
02:43:10,160 --> 02:43:11,600
Speaker 1: it like that, but then you have the song happy

2611
02:43:11,720 --> 02:43:14,640
Speaker 1: like let's do something. And I was like, man, I

2612
02:43:14,760 --> 02:43:19,160
Speaker 1: really love like I love the idea of like man

2613
02:43:19,480 --> 02:43:27,680
Speaker 1: being um man seeing himself going out there into the

2614
02:43:27,959 --> 02:43:33,200
Speaker 1: into the into the universe and making his mark. And

2615
02:43:33,280 --> 02:43:36,440
Speaker 1: as a black man, I want that for my culture.

2616
02:43:36,480 --> 02:43:38,360
Speaker 1: I want my culture to continue to look at things

2617
02:43:38,440 --> 02:43:40,800
Speaker 1: like that, like like, yo, we can do anything. I know,

2618
02:43:40,920 --> 02:43:42,920
Speaker 1: we lost a brother out there and you know in

2619
02:43:43,040 --> 02:43:46,440
Speaker 1: the first Space Shuttle explosion, Well we can, we can.

2620
02:43:46,720 --> 02:43:48,640
Speaker 1: We could go there, we could go to any one

2621
02:43:48,680 --> 02:43:51,840
Speaker 1: of these planets or any one of their moons and

2622
02:43:51,959 --> 02:43:54,680
Speaker 1: bake it. And he was like, okay, cool. So then

2623
02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:58,960
Speaker 1: we did the Watch together and I just remember him

2624
02:43:59,080 --> 02:44:01,040
Speaker 1: just telling me about all these programs where he was

2625
02:44:01,080 --> 02:44:04,960
Speaker 1: sponsoring all these Olympic like watch on right, yeah, he

2626
02:44:05,120 --> 02:44:08,840
Speaker 1: was sponsoring all these Olympics. Yeah, but he was sponsoring

2627
02:44:08,920 --> 02:44:14,200
Speaker 1: all these runners. And I was like, yo, you're like

2628
02:44:14,760 --> 02:44:17,000
Speaker 1: you're like killing it in the Watch game right now.

2629
02:44:17,320 --> 02:44:20,640
Speaker 1: You're surpassing everything. The resale on everything that you do

2630
02:44:20,920 --> 02:44:25,440
Speaker 1: is doing really well, Like you don't have to care

2631
02:44:25,520 --> 02:44:29,800
Speaker 1: about all these black people. Watches exist, though, but hear me,

2632
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:36,600
Speaker 1: he's sponsoring all these black people. Yes, right now, actively

2633
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:42,320
Speaker 1: as we speak, he's sponsoring all these like black like Olympiads.

2634
02:44:43,320 --> 02:44:46,280
Speaker 1: It's crazy. No one knows this, and so for me,

2635
02:44:46,480 --> 02:44:48,760
Speaker 1: it was like, oh yeah, hell, yeah, I'm gonna work

2636
02:44:48,800 --> 02:44:51,360
Speaker 1: with you. Not only did I want to work and

2637
02:44:51,480 --> 02:44:54,280
Speaker 1: he was already doing it. Yeah, he had been doing it.

2638
02:44:54,760 --> 02:44:56,400
Speaker 1: And so like if you talk to him right now,

2639
02:44:56,920 --> 02:44:59,560
Speaker 1: there's like there's like Olympic running of people who are

2640
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:02,560
Speaker 1: actively competing, who have watches, and you didn't know that

2641
02:45:02,680 --> 02:45:05,520
Speaker 1: they were like based on like Olympic runners, and these

2642
02:45:05,560 --> 02:45:10,200
Speaker 1: guys are actually all benefiting from it. It's unbelievable. And

2643
02:45:10,280 --> 02:45:14,320
Speaker 1: he's he'll sponsor a village, He's I mean things you

2644
02:45:14,400 --> 02:45:23,440
Speaker 1: don't even know what. Listen, what I'm saying to you

2645
02:45:23,560 --> 02:45:26,720
Speaker 1: is he's a good man. He's got every opportunity to

2646
02:45:26,879 --> 02:45:30,680
Speaker 1: just be like a European man who's literally just making

2647
02:45:30,800 --> 02:45:34,240
Speaker 1: his money, but literally he's not. He's thinking outside of

2648
02:45:35,080 --> 02:45:38,280
Speaker 1: his continent and going to the places where we are

2649
02:45:38,760 --> 02:45:42,039
Speaker 1: and where we're most afflicted, whether it is thinking about

2650
02:45:42,080 --> 02:45:45,240
Speaker 1: the safety of children on the road or or or

2651
02:45:45,560 --> 02:45:50,640
Speaker 1: or thinking about what we're going to need when we

2652
02:45:50,760 --> 02:45:54,560
Speaker 1: are really talented, but we don't. We come from very

2653
02:45:54,680 --> 02:45:57,119
Speaker 1: modest means, and we come from a community that can't

2654
02:45:57,120 --> 02:46:01,200
Speaker 1: provide for us. I would encourage you to do the

2655
02:46:01,280 --> 02:46:04,959
Speaker 1: homework and see the programs that Richard Mill has. It's

2656
02:46:05,080 --> 02:46:10,400
Speaker 1: not just like superior Swiss movement and like very expensive,

2657
02:46:11,200 --> 02:46:16,760
Speaker 1: like you know, record breaking um um um um um

2658
02:46:17,200 --> 02:46:23,680
Speaker 1: price tax. It's a culture and culture and good from

2659
02:46:23,680 --> 02:46:25,760
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, it's changed the way that I think.

2660
02:46:25,879 --> 02:46:27,600
Speaker 1: I used to just think it was just like a

2661
02:46:27,680 --> 02:46:29,640
Speaker 1: cool design of a watch. Now I know that it's

2662
02:46:29,720 --> 02:46:32,200
Speaker 1: really the personality of a man. I'm surprised you don't

2663
02:46:32,200 --> 02:46:37,040
Speaker 1: work with Elen it anyway. Yeah, I think Ellen is amazing.

2664
02:46:37,120 --> 02:46:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm just using first names because that's all he's doing. Elon.

2665
02:46:41,840 --> 02:46:47,440
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is amazing. Um. We talked a couple of times.

2666
02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:52,440
Speaker 1: We're not I would say that we're friendly, but we're not.

2667
02:46:53,720 --> 02:46:55,000
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't talk to him all

2668
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:56,520
Speaker 1: the time, talk to him here and there. You know,

2669
02:46:57,120 --> 02:46:58,760
Speaker 1: like what would be the initiative with him if you

2670
02:46:58,800 --> 02:47:02,080
Speaker 1: were to work with him, what would yeah, what would

2671
02:47:02,080 --> 02:47:20,280
Speaker 1: you envision a collaboration between y'all two? You know, Let

2672
02:47:20,360 --> 02:47:22,320
Speaker 1: me say this first before I answer a question. Elon

2673
02:47:22,440 --> 02:47:24,240
Speaker 1: Musk is a man who thinks about things from a

2674
02:47:24,400 --> 02:47:28,360
Speaker 1: very different perspective. He thinks in the future. When he

2675
02:47:28,440 --> 02:47:31,520
Speaker 1: answered when you asked him a question, he's going to

2676
02:47:31,600 --> 02:47:35,520
Speaker 1: give your answer this, So you want to be very

2677
02:47:35,640 --> 02:47:40,039
Speaker 1: careful and cognizant of what you're asking him. You want

2678
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:41,840
Speaker 1: to make sure you're asking the right thing at the

2679
02:47:41,959 --> 02:47:49,080
Speaker 1: right time. And I would ask him to think about

2680
02:47:52,920 --> 02:47:55,920
Speaker 1: how to I would want to go to him. I

2681
02:47:55,920 --> 02:47:58,760
Speaker 1: would look at him as a problem solver, because that's

2682
02:47:58,800 --> 02:48:01,520
Speaker 1: what he is. But he's been a problem solving for

2683
02:48:01,600 --> 02:48:06,879
Speaker 1: the things that he deems most important. I don't from

2684
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:09,600
Speaker 1: his POV and I don't disagree with the things that

2685
02:48:09,720 --> 02:48:13,400
Speaker 1: he has thought about. But I if I were him,

2686
02:48:13,840 --> 02:48:17,880
Speaker 1: I would think, how do we get Elon Musk to

2687
02:48:18,000 --> 02:48:24,680
Speaker 1: put his brain cells to consider how to make our

2688
02:48:29,080 --> 02:48:35,000
Speaker 1: supremacist brothers and sisters understand the plight of the people

2689
02:48:35,080 --> 02:48:38,960
Speaker 1: that they hate. M. If we could get Elon Musk

2690
02:48:39,040 --> 02:48:44,720
Speaker 1: to think about racism, If we could get Elon Musk

2691
02:48:45,600 --> 02:48:54,640
Speaker 1: to think about federal subsidies, if we could get Elon

2692
02:48:54,760 --> 02:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Musk to think about women M and we could get

2693
02:49:02,520 --> 02:49:04,760
Speaker 1: a lion must to think about the plight of women.

2694
02:49:06,400 --> 02:49:09,119
Speaker 1: I think that he's such a genius that if when

2695
02:49:09,160 --> 02:49:12,080
Speaker 1: he applies himself to a situation, he figures his way

2696
02:49:12,120 --> 02:49:14,959
Speaker 1: out his the way that he's looked at sonap Solar

2697
02:49:15,040 --> 02:49:21,520
Speaker 1: panel solar panels, and that business has been ingenious. If

2698
02:49:21,560 --> 02:49:23,520
Speaker 1: we could get him to think about the plight of

2699
02:49:23,640 --> 02:49:27,879
Speaker 1: black Americans and how to translate that to are less

2700
02:49:27,959 --> 02:49:33,800
Speaker 1: empathetic and even sometimes apathetic white brothers and sisters. Yeah,

2701
02:49:35,240 --> 02:49:40,240
Speaker 1: if we could get him to think about so many things.

2702
02:49:40,560 --> 02:49:42,800
Speaker 1: It's the same thing I would say for Nikolai Tesla.

2703
02:49:43,400 --> 02:49:46,600
Speaker 1: He named his company right, he named his company after Tesla.

2704
02:49:46,840 --> 02:49:49,440
Speaker 1: Same thing I would say to Einstein. It's like man theory,

2705
02:49:49,720 --> 02:49:55,000
Speaker 1: theory of relatively we needed that, But brother, we needed

2706
02:49:55,040 --> 02:50:00,360
Speaker 1: you to for so much more. If you could, Mr Eerstein,

2707
02:50:00,400 --> 02:50:04,320
Speaker 1: if you could have sat down with Malcolm, imagine coming

2708
02:50:04,400 --> 02:50:07,640
Speaker 1: up also during World War Two. He's Jewish during Nazi.

2709
02:50:08,600 --> 02:50:10,720
Speaker 1: But that's my point. If we could have gotten you

2710
02:50:10,959 --> 02:50:15,560
Speaker 1: to beat Mr Malcolm, Mr Einstein, if we could have

2711
02:50:15,640 --> 02:50:22,520
Speaker 1: got you to meet you know, Mr Martin Ellen, if

2712
02:50:22,560 --> 02:50:26,000
Speaker 1: we could have gotten you to sit down and have

2713
02:50:26,160 --> 02:50:37,160
Speaker 1: a conversation with who which. By the way, by the way,

2714
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a white savior type of way.

2715
02:50:40,000 --> 02:50:43,800
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if we could have gotten because

2716
02:50:43,879 --> 02:50:46,440
Speaker 1: I started. But there's gonna be people. They're gonna be

2717
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:50,680
Speaker 1: people who cut up everything that I'm saying all things

2718
02:50:50,760 --> 02:50:52,840
Speaker 1: that like a white savior could save everything, and they

2719
02:50:52,879 --> 02:50:55,840
Speaker 1: didn't hear the context. I started this conversation by saying,

2720
02:50:56,560 --> 02:50:59,560
Speaker 1: you said to me about Ellen thinking about things right.

2721
02:51:00,320 --> 02:51:02,680
Speaker 1: But what I'm what I'm saying is when you talk

2722
02:51:02,720 --> 02:51:05,440
Speaker 1: to Ellen Musk, you asked him a question. And the

2723
02:51:05,560 --> 02:51:07,520
Speaker 1: times that I've talked to him is in nineteen I

2724
02:51:07,560 --> 02:51:09,960
Speaker 1: think I talked to him in twenty twenty about like

2725
02:51:10,640 --> 02:51:13,160
Speaker 1: cars and ship that I needed because we have four children.

2726
02:51:16,240 --> 02:51:18,840
Speaker 1: But when you ask Ellen a question in he gives

2727
02:51:18,879 --> 02:51:24,000
Speaker 1: you an answer forty or forty or right. So if

2728
02:51:24,080 --> 02:51:31,960
Speaker 1: we could have had him, mama, so we could add

2729
02:51:32,040 --> 02:51:36,720
Speaker 1: Ellen ask a question, don't count you or or or

2730
02:51:36,959 --> 02:51:42,080
Speaker 1: or or or give a contributor a contributive, give a

2731
02:51:42,160 --> 02:51:45,959
Speaker 1: contribution to the thought of some of these considerations. I'm

2732
02:51:46,000 --> 02:51:48,320
Speaker 1: selling you what I would have wanted him to weigh

2733
02:51:48,320 --> 02:52:00,760
Speaker 1: in on that SI should be illegal. Teach you get

2734
02:52:00,800 --> 02:52:06,000
Speaker 1: the shots. That's beautiful looking thing. Yo. I'm so glad

2735
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:08,920
Speaker 1: you're yeah, bro, I'm glad I'm here. I thought I

2736
02:52:08,959 --> 02:52:18,080
Speaker 1: thought you will never come that family. Wait, let me

2737
02:52:18,120 --> 02:52:20,000
Speaker 1: get a shot. Hold on with the test me like that.

2738
02:52:21,360 --> 02:52:23,120
Speaker 1: Cheer up man, Let's thre me with a good time,

2739
02:52:23,959 --> 02:52:34,240
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Now I was, I was

2740
02:52:34,320 --> 02:52:38,160
Speaker 1: just doing bakado song in my mind. Oh yeah, we're

2741
02:52:38,240 --> 02:52:44,320
Speaker 1: right now. How long you know for real lap tunes,

2742
02:52:44,720 --> 02:52:49,080
Speaker 1: the whole family, break it down, family tuning for us

2743
02:52:49,920 --> 02:52:52,840
Speaker 1: right at least? Well I knew, I knew for real

2744
02:52:52,920 --> 02:52:59,040
Speaker 1: before the nap tunes. Yeah. Um, long story shot. He

2745
02:52:59,240 --> 02:53:02,519
Speaker 1: used to come out neighborhood. WI grew up at Huntsville.

2746
02:53:03,360 --> 02:53:04,920
Speaker 1: He was coming out there back then, and that's how

2747
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:09,120
Speaker 1: we initially met and then linked back up a couple

2748
02:53:09,120 --> 02:53:11,720
Speaker 1: of years later when he was doing music. But when

2749
02:53:11,760 --> 02:53:15,040
Speaker 1: you got met, were you doing music already in the beginning? Now?

2750
02:53:15,160 --> 02:53:17,240
Speaker 1: But I got a wild story that like when I um,

2751
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:19,879
Speaker 1: when I first linked back up with him, I heard

2752
02:53:19,879 --> 02:53:21,320
Speaker 1: he was doing music and I've seen him in the

2753
02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:23,920
Speaker 1: club one night on my birthday and I was like, yo,

2754
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:25,920
Speaker 1: I heard you doing music and he no, a matter

2755
02:53:25,920 --> 02:53:28,160
Speaker 1: of fact, you said he here that rapped. So he

2756
02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:29,600
Speaker 1: was like, you'll do something for me right now, and

2757
02:53:29,640 --> 02:53:31,520
Speaker 1: I was like super drunk. It was like my birthday

2758
02:53:31,560 --> 02:53:33,800
Speaker 1: and Ship. So I was like, Ship didn't even put

2759
02:53:33,840 --> 02:53:36,360
Speaker 1: me on the spot, but I brought for him. And

2760
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:38,680
Speaker 1: then just like you'll come through see how the music

2761
02:53:38,760 --> 02:53:43,119
Speaker 1: world work, and then been rolling every since. It's been

2762
02:53:43,160 --> 02:53:46,560
Speaker 1: my mind. So how did you How do you feel

2763
02:53:46,600 --> 02:53:50,360
Speaker 1: when you've seen the clips the first take off? Oh no,

2764
02:53:50,440 --> 02:53:53,680
Speaker 1: I was happy for my brothers. Yeah, I was there

2765
02:53:53,760 --> 02:53:56,200
Speaker 1: for what wasn't all that I was there. I've seen that.

2766
02:53:56,280 --> 02:54:00,879
Speaker 1: I remember all that Protectlar because I want to say,

2767
02:54:00,959 --> 02:54:05,680
Speaker 1: like you know yea, oh no, it was like it's grinding.

2768
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:08,920
Speaker 1: I remembering he was so excited about grinding. He told

2769
02:54:08,959 --> 02:54:12,200
Speaker 1: me coming to the gym and I flew, Oh, I

2770
02:54:12,320 --> 02:54:15,880
Speaker 1: drove to Yeah, he was in. Yeah, that were you

2771
02:54:15,959 --> 02:54:17,280
Speaker 1: when you was in the video of that crib that

2772
02:54:17,360 --> 02:54:19,320
Speaker 1: you they shot you and that's like, my people are

2773
02:54:19,360 --> 02:54:21,120
Speaker 1: doing right up the se from that. That was definitely

2774
02:54:21,120 --> 02:54:29,520
Speaker 1: still cooking. Crack out there, let's make some Yeah, I

2775
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:33,600
Speaker 1: think it's just out there still cooking. Was crazy. But

2776
02:54:33,680 --> 02:54:36,440
Speaker 1: now to see the clips do the thing. I don't

2777
02:54:36,440 --> 02:54:38,600
Speaker 1: know if you understood when you was writing, I was like,

2778
02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't, I'm alright, man. I stayed. I stayed the

2779
02:54:42,920 --> 02:54:50,000
Speaker 1: whole time. I stayed the whole time, understand as you would. Yeah. Yeah,

2780
02:54:50,040 --> 02:54:51,520
Speaker 1: but to see the clips do it, man, was it

2781
02:54:51,600 --> 02:54:53,920
Speaker 1: went for all of us like you know, like you said,

2782
02:54:53,959 --> 02:54:55,840
Speaker 1: were from Virginie. You don't really get to see that.

2783
02:54:56,560 --> 02:54:59,320
Speaker 1: And just seeing you know, my family take off, it

2784
02:54:59,440 --> 02:55:02,120
Speaker 1: was like, let's go. And this is a question for

2785
02:55:02,240 --> 02:55:04,840
Speaker 1: both of y'all. How weird is it to see malice

2786
02:55:05,480 --> 02:55:19,520
Speaker 1: go one way and then push you? So this case,

2787
02:55:19,600 --> 02:55:22,879
Speaker 1: you wants some aces SPA because you know I'm gonna

2788
02:55:23,160 --> 02:55:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm on that Prince Rogers, Nelson, Alight, we better know

2789
02:55:29,480 --> 02:55:34,200
Speaker 1: Nelson Rodgers want this guy one. You don't know this guy.

2790
02:55:34,480 --> 02:55:37,880
Speaker 1: So look so look when you mentioned guy, that's when

2791
02:55:37,920 --> 02:55:39,400
Speaker 1: I got to sit up in my seat. I gotta

2792
02:55:39,440 --> 02:55:43,640
Speaker 1: get it right, h What was your question again? The

2793
02:55:43,879 --> 02:55:46,600
Speaker 1: malice and pushing the difference? I just want to make

2794
02:55:46,640 --> 02:55:52,800
Speaker 1: sure because the purple brain is kicked in every time

2795
02:55:53,600 --> 02:56:02,880
Speaker 1: everybody one to three. I'm sorry. So that's a Swan

2796
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:12,519
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen in the design district, Craig Robbins, I'm drop.

2797
02:56:13,560 --> 02:56:19,000
Speaker 1: Can we get this on film? Somebody? I always want to.

2798
02:56:19,160 --> 02:56:22,000
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to know, like like like, okay,

2799
02:56:22,480 --> 02:56:29,440
Speaker 1: so at Swan you can get just being clear on

2800
02:56:29,560 --> 02:56:32,160
Speaker 1: drain chants like I guess what they would be anything,

2801
02:56:32,160 --> 02:56:34,880
Speaker 1: any kind of any kind of officiating or you know,

2802
02:56:35,000 --> 02:56:37,240
Speaker 1: any kind of officiating in any level. It's like it's

2803
02:56:37,280 --> 02:56:40,640
Speaker 1: going to be on drain chance. Thank you to appreciating

2804
02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:47,320
Speaker 1: continue that flash it. He was talking about your question.

2805
02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:52,000
Speaker 1: So your question is about Malice and push you. So

2806
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:58,440
Speaker 1: Malice had a conviction. Something came over him, and I

2807
02:56:58,600 --> 02:57:01,960
Speaker 1: never really got into it because I was afraid of it.

2808
02:57:02,040 --> 02:57:03,720
Speaker 1: I was afraid to hear what it was because I

2809
02:57:03,840 --> 02:57:06,600
Speaker 1: was afraid to hear that, Like if I heard it,

2810
02:57:07,240 --> 02:57:09,400
Speaker 1: it would transform me. It's funny, and I'm looking at

2811
02:57:09,440 --> 02:57:13,280
Speaker 1: a T shirt that says beats in the hood, right,

2812
02:57:13,840 --> 02:57:15,640
Speaker 1: But let me tell you something right now, with the

2813
02:57:15,800 --> 02:57:20,960
Speaker 1: simple rearrangement of the st it could go from beats

2814
02:57:21,520 --> 02:57:24,280
Speaker 1: to beasts. And that's kind of like what I was

2815
02:57:24,360 --> 02:57:27,400
Speaker 1: feeling at the time when I saw Malice being hit.

2816
02:57:27,879 --> 02:57:31,880
Speaker 1: I was afraid of asking what happened to him because

2817
02:57:31,920 --> 02:57:35,000
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't I wasn't ready for it. I

2818
02:57:35,160 --> 02:57:39,320
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for it. He told me was gonna transform me,

2819
02:57:40,280 --> 02:57:43,960
Speaker 1: and what hit him so long ago hit me later

2820
02:57:44,040 --> 02:57:49,000
Speaker 1: on in my life. And when we saw him go

2821
02:57:49,120 --> 02:57:52,039
Speaker 1: through that transformation, all of us we had the utmost respect.

2822
02:57:53,040 --> 02:57:56,960
Speaker 1: But you need to know I don't think just because

2823
02:57:57,000 --> 02:57:59,760
Speaker 1: a person a person has accepted God in their lives

2824
02:58:00,560 --> 02:58:03,800
Speaker 1: or in their life, that they don't think the same

2825
02:58:03,879 --> 02:58:07,120
Speaker 1: things or have the same instincts. Their instincts may change.

2826
02:58:10,000 --> 02:58:14,360
Speaker 1: But who you are is who you are. And when

2827
02:58:14,520 --> 02:58:18,120
Speaker 1: God enters your when God and the universe enters your life,

2828
02:58:18,640 --> 02:58:22,240
Speaker 1: what you are doesn't change what to you, what you are,

2829
02:58:22,320 --> 02:58:25,320
Speaker 1: it remains the same. But what you do it for,

2830
02:58:27,640 --> 02:58:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what changes. And I wasn't ready for that. I

2831
02:58:32,320 --> 02:58:36,440
Speaker 1: was afraid of that. But then, like you know, when

2832
02:58:36,520 --> 02:58:44,440
Speaker 1: I did, like get lucky, blurred lines and happy at

2833
02:58:44,480 --> 02:58:47,400
Speaker 1: the same year, and all that ship came out. The

2834
02:58:47,520 --> 02:58:53,440
Speaker 1: ship wigged me the funk out right. I never touched

2835
02:58:53,520 --> 02:59:00,560
Speaker 1: cocaine one of those. And by the way, by the way, already,

2836
02:59:00,760 --> 02:59:02,959
Speaker 1: let me be real clear about that. There's a lot

2837
02:59:03,040 --> 02:59:05,080
Speaker 1: of people that do. And I ain't got nothing against him. Bro.

2838
02:59:05,200 --> 02:59:07,280
Speaker 1: You see a lot of cocaine sessions. Part about it,

2839
02:59:07,320 --> 02:59:10,200
Speaker 1: all of it, Man, A lot of people fun with coke. Bro.

2840
02:59:10,320 --> 02:59:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't judge, man,

2841
02:59:12,959 --> 02:59:42,080
Speaker 1: we judge, we see. Oh so here's the thing, bro,

2842
02:59:43,400 --> 02:59:47,880
Speaker 1: they're fucking judging you. Man, not judging nobody people do

2843
02:59:48,040 --> 02:59:51,400
Speaker 1: ship like that, and it's okay, people do other ship.

2844
02:59:52,000 --> 02:59:53,960
Speaker 1: You know what you could be do you be doing worse?

2845
02:59:55,040 --> 02:59:57,880
Speaker 1: You could be a fucking like you could be a

2846
03:00:02,720 --> 03:00:07,760
Speaker 1: sex trafficker. Wait a minute, you could be a fucking pedophile.

2847
03:00:08,080 --> 03:00:12,760
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you could be a fucking kidnapper. There's

2848
03:00:12,800 --> 03:00:16,000
Speaker 1: so many things you could fucking be if that's what

2849
03:00:16,160 --> 03:00:19,560
Speaker 1: you've chosen, because that ship makes you feel better than ever.

2850
03:00:20,200 --> 03:00:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't condone it, and I'm not gonna celebrate you,

2851
03:00:24,040 --> 03:00:26,240
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna judge you. And that's the most

2852
03:00:26,280 --> 03:00:33,760
Speaker 1: important part. I'm gonna judge you. Judging that that, yo, bro,

2853
03:00:33,959 --> 03:00:36,480
Speaker 1: there would be no Miami like that ship built Miami.

2854
03:00:36,600 --> 03:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, game boys, right and ship both. I'm

2855
03:00:42,240 --> 03:00:44,440
Speaker 1: not celebrating it and I'm not condoning it. But what

2856
03:00:44,560 --> 03:00:48,160
Speaker 1: I am not doing, I'm gonna what I'm also not doing.

2857
03:00:48,520 --> 03:00:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm just not just tosting you. I'm just tolting. Yeah.

2858
03:00:56,480 --> 03:01:01,400
Speaker 1: But I've told you though, feel up because it's that

2859
03:01:01,480 --> 03:01:06,600
Speaker 1: big boy. Look what I'm saying. What I'm saying to

2860
03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:11,840
Speaker 1: you is white white society living. Come on, family. What

2861
03:01:11,879 --> 03:01:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you is what we gotta stop doing,

2862
03:01:16,360 --> 03:01:20,640
Speaker 1: even when it's the ship that we hate. What we

2863
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:23,880
Speaker 1: gotta do is we gotta stop judging, bro, because the

2864
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:28,400
Speaker 1: judging is what what keeps people doing dark ship and

2865
03:01:28,560 --> 03:01:34,600
Speaker 1: dark circles and hiding it versus like saying, you know what,

2866
03:01:35,200 --> 03:01:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you, brother, and I'm not judging you, brother.

2867
03:01:38,200 --> 03:01:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm angry at what you're doing, but I'm not mad

2868
03:01:40,920 --> 03:01:43,120
Speaker 1: at you because I realized something that's happened to you

2869
03:01:43,800 --> 03:01:49,400
Speaker 1: and that you need help. And unfortunately, what happens with cocaine,

2870
03:01:49,800 --> 03:01:52,560
Speaker 1: it's like people get caught up in that place where

2871
03:01:52,560 --> 03:01:55,240
Speaker 1: they feel like they can't really say it. They're either

2872
03:01:55,360 --> 03:01:58,080
Speaker 1: celebrating it or they're hiding it. And what we need

2873
03:01:58,160 --> 03:01:59,600
Speaker 1: to do is we got to get to a place

2874
03:02:00,200 --> 03:02:02,240
Speaker 1: as black people in the Latin X where we say,

2875
03:02:02,280 --> 03:02:04,280
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna judge you. I just

2876
03:02:04,360 --> 03:02:06,040
Speaker 1: feel like you might need a little bit of help

2877
03:02:07,600 --> 03:02:14,640
Speaker 1: and there are functional users. By the way of all kinds.

2878
03:02:15,480 --> 03:02:18,440
Speaker 1: I'll just be honest with you. We love cocaine stories. Here.

2879
03:02:18,840 --> 03:02:22,080
Speaker 1: You have a cocaine story. I do not. I do

2880
03:02:22,200 --> 03:02:24,360
Speaker 1: not not at all, not at all. I know I

2881
03:02:24,440 --> 03:02:28,520
Speaker 1: know I have cocaine stories that I'm not gonna gonna

2882
03:02:28,640 --> 03:02:32,120
Speaker 1: gonna share for my friends who were who were absolutely

2883
03:02:33,840 --> 03:02:38,080
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking game. I would never And that's because,

2884
03:02:38,640 --> 03:02:40,959
Speaker 1: and let me tell you why, I would never respect

2885
03:02:41,000 --> 03:02:49,039
Speaker 1: that watch this purple rain sip. I would never share

2886
03:02:50,320 --> 03:02:52,760
Speaker 1: because I always made it very clear to my friends

2887
03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:56,480
Speaker 1: who were involved in that business. Brother don't involve me,

2888
03:02:56,520 --> 03:03:04,600
Speaker 1: because I'm telling so. I would never share because there's

2889
03:03:04,680 --> 03:03:07,760
Speaker 1: nothing for me to share except that one part. Don't

2890
03:03:07,800 --> 03:03:09,080
Speaker 1: do no ship in front of me, because I ain't

2891
03:03:09,080 --> 03:03:12,920
Speaker 1: built like that. You're tough, you live that life. You

2892
03:03:13,000 --> 03:03:15,640
Speaker 1: do what you do. Don't share that ship with me

2893
03:03:16,200 --> 03:03:19,360
Speaker 1: because I ain't built for it. No one one is

2894
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:32,920
Speaker 1: my friend, you know. So I say this, So I

2895
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:37,080
Speaker 1: say this, like, look, we gotta get to a place

2896
03:03:37,160 --> 03:03:39,560
Speaker 1: as a culture where we start to like embrace our

2897
03:03:39,600 --> 03:03:42,680
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters all their flaws. They're gonna all do

2898
03:03:42,800 --> 03:03:45,200
Speaker 1: some ship that you don't like. But you know what,

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03:03:45,440 --> 03:03:47,480
Speaker 1: we live in this world, and you know what, it

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Speaker 1: don't matter who won this White House. What matters is

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Speaker 1: the general population. And seventy one, seventy one million of

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Speaker 1: them agree with some things that don't really agree with

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Speaker 1: latin X. You see, we have a we have a

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Speaker 1: we have a a system here in America. When you

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Speaker 1: make it to the American beaches, you can request for it,

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Speaker 1: like you know asylum, right, yeah, what food for Cubans.

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Speaker 1: But then we have them that that that that think

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Speaker 1: to themselves law, they should be arrested. You see. We

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Speaker 1: need to spend more more time empathizing. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: judging my black brothers and my brown brothers. I'm not

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Speaker 1: judging anyone really at the end of the day. What

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Speaker 1: we gotta do is we gotta learn empathy. Man. And

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Speaker 1: there's some ship that you're gonna look at. You gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, now, funk with that at all. But you

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Speaker 1: gotta understand that's a sickness, bro. Education as well. We

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03:04:52,440 --> 03:04:56,440
Speaker 1: got to educate people more things, educate ourselves, and educate

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Speaker 1: each other because there are sitnesses in history. Motherucker's don't

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Speaker 1: know street anymore, so they don't have no historical context.

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Speaker 1: You don't know shit. We gotta get to that place.

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Speaker 1: And all I'm saying is I'm not I'm not there

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Speaker 1: right now. Where where I'm at is. Look, I'm not perfect,

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Speaker 1: I'm not special. What I am is I'm lucky to

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Speaker 1: be alive and to exist and be able to to

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Speaker 1: to contribute, to be a conduit, two things to to

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Speaker 1: the greater purpose, and that is for us unifying and

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Speaker 1: accepting each other and educating each other where we can,

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Speaker 1: and not judging. That's the problem. The judging is that's

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Speaker 1: what fox us, you know, because they do what the

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Speaker 1: fun they do all the fucking time, and then when

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Speaker 1: that person does it, go, oh, he's a fucked up individual. No,

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Speaker 1: all of you motherfucker's do that. It's just that that

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Speaker 1: one got caught. But for us, we and when I

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Speaker 1: say us, I mean people who know that they're not perfect.

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Speaker 1: Not just color lines, not just sexual lines, are genitalia lines.

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Speaker 1: Because some people don't have identify as gener dir what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about his spirit. If you identify as generally

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03:06:03,760 --> 03:06:06,200
Speaker 1: a good spirit but you've got some issues, guess what

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Speaker 1: you are. You're fucking human. Right. We gotta get to

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Speaker 1: a place where the good spirits get together and say, look,

2940
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Speaker 1: none of us are perfect, but let's hold each other

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Speaker 1: accountable and let's get each other to help that. We

2942
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Speaker 1: need to get to that great place because at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, this land was Native American. It

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Speaker 1: was built by black skin and black sweat. And the

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Speaker 1: first commodity traded ever in this country was on Wall Street?

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Speaker 1: What do you think it was? People? Okay? And that's

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Speaker 1: because we had to stand against the what what do

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Speaker 1: we have to stand against the wall? Why do you

2949
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Speaker 1: think they call it wall Street? That's us. So here's

2950
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Speaker 1: the thing. I don't give a funk what color you are,

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Speaker 1: if you have some sort of good spirit in you,

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Speaker 1: we need to unify, bro. We got to educate each

2953
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Speaker 1: other and stop judging. And you know what, we also

2954
03:07:11,000 --> 03:07:14,160
Speaker 1: need to stand behind our minorities man like, you know,

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Speaker 1: not just black, not just Latin X, but also l

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Speaker 1: g B, t q I, because they're human beings. They

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Speaker 1: gotta brain, they gotta mind, they have ambitions to be acknowledged. Yea. Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: just because you don't agree and you don't get it,

2959
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Speaker 1: it ain't for you to agree. You know what it's

2960
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Speaker 1: for you to do stand there and be there for

2961
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Speaker 1: your brother and your sister and whatever God God deems judgeable.

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Speaker 1: Let God and that person deal with that. You ain't

2963
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Speaker 1: the fucking judge of the jury. We need to be

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Speaker 1: there for each other. That's what we need. That's what

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Speaker 1: I want for my brother, That's what what I want.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want for for for for Draking Pusha,

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Speaker 1: That's what I want for you name it. All the

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Speaker 1: people that got good in their heart. Man, you saw

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Speaker 1: God's plan. You know who Drake is. You know what

2970
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And if you look at them, and if

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Speaker 1: you and if you look at and if you look

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Speaker 1: at what Pusha has done for like Virginia, like you

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Speaker 1: know what the funk he is like, we gotta we

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Speaker 1: have to unify all the good willingness that we have

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Speaker 1: in our hearts. That's what we need to unify. And

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Speaker 1: I know people of partly listening to be like funk that,

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Speaker 1: but listen, after everything I've been through and all the

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Speaker 1: sessions I've been in, and the people that I've encountered,

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Speaker 1: and the people who have enlightened me and taken me

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Speaker 1: to a two different places and different heights, this is

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Speaker 1: this is my result. This is my son. If you

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Speaker 1: ask me, if I add up everything I've ever done

2983
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Speaker 1: in my life, from listening to my parents to get

2984
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Speaker 1: my wife, my kids, my family, listen is God is

2985
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Speaker 1: the greatest and we got to be loyal to that. Bro.

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Speaker 1: Also got to ask you the same question cut you

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Speaker 1: Lee super thuck. If you cut me, and this is

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Speaker 1: where I know I need to sign off Christmas. If

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Speaker 1: you cut me right now, what will come? Who'sin't out

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Speaker 1: of my my body? My God is different? Got them?

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Speaker 1: My God? God got need some gutting family, you know,

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Speaker 1: being down down the left tunes from the beginning, How

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Speaker 1: does it feel like, you know to see this guy

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Speaker 1: and this a Luxuria's a beautiful position that he is

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Speaker 1: and use an artist, I won't be Yeah, yeah, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, this is my brother, man, Like what's good

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Speaker 1: form is good for me? Just dead like as he grow,

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Speaker 1: I learned what makes some Graham made me happy. This's

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Speaker 1: my brother. So it's like, I'm happy man. I love

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Speaker 1: to see what he is. And I sat from the

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Speaker 1: music and all the stuff you're doing. That's really like

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Speaker 1: my brother. So I'm happy. God, this was great. I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna respectfully cow tow no. Thanks for joining us

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