1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's my fault. What's up everybody? No Dunk's 2 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: podcast coming at you Live Emergency pod to talk about 3 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. I say it's my fault because on our 4 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Friday Drop podcast, I said, hey, you never know if 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: we'll see each other on Monday or if not before, 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: because it is trade deadline week coming. And here we 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: go on a Friday, Kyrie Irving dropping a bomb on 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: the NBA. The Nets All Star guard Kyrie Irving has 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: requested a trade. Our guy Sham's all over it, and 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: then everybody confirming it. The franchise has been informed that 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Kyrie prefers to move on or ahead really of the 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: February ninth trade deadline, or he's going to leave in 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: free agency in July. That's the ultimatum. The currently recently 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: offered Kyrie an extension with guarantee stipulations, according to league sources, 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: an offer which he declined. Tassie, my man, I'm sure 16 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: you were enjoying a nice Friday afternoon. I don't know 17 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: what you were going to get up to, and then 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: this one hits the NBA Twitter airwaves and here we 19 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: are for our second time. I'd like to point out 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: doing a NETS emergency podcast about a superstar demanding and 21 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: requesting a trade. We did it for kat He's still there, 22 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: and now we're doing it for Kyrie. 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: So should we be surprised because we already doing for KD. 24 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: I say, yeah, even for Kyrie and the Nets. My 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: first reaction was what that was? I thought it wouldn't happen. 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: I just thought it wouldn't happen. After listen, both guys 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: seemingly wanted out. So should I again? Should we be 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: surprised because that was just last summer? But I thought 29 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: they would be ready and willing to bear down for 30 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: a few months, especially because Kyrie Irving said last season 31 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: sitting out because he was not decided not to get 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: vaccinated cost him a four year MAX extension. I thought 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: he was going to play just to earn that max extension, 34 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: and also I thought he was friends with Kevin Durant. 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they can't they can't just do it for 36 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: a few months. I thought, I didn't you think that 37 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: they would just bear down and play for these few months. 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: Really we've gotten two and a half months since Kyrie 39 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: Irving was suspended by the NETS for posting that anti 40 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: Semitic movie on his Instagram story. And now he's won, 41 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: Now he wants out, and now he says that five 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: game suspension really peeped me off. I think that seemingly 43 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: as a part of it. And he couldn't just couldn't 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: just suck it up. That's my surprise, even though I 45 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: guess I shouldn't be skeets, I shouldn't be surprised. 46 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we shouldn't be surprised with this guy. Unfortunately, 47 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: it's surprising because the Nets were playing well. You know, 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: they obviously have been missing Durant here. They were losing 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: some games, more games than they were when they were 50 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: all playing. But this team is thirty one and twenty 51 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: like they're good for fourth place in the Eastern Conference, right. 52 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: You know, he's been great, Kyrie. He's going to be 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: an All Star starter here. Somebody's gonna draft him, and 54 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I wouldn't be shocked if he'll demand a 55 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: trade when he gets drafted by Team Honess or Team Lebron, 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, after playing a minute or something. Anyway he's playing, 57 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, scoring twenty seven a game, five assists, like, 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: he's been good when he's playing. I mean, when we're 59 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: just talking about the basketball, and we had been for 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: a little bit. So why now, what's going on in 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Kyrie's world over the last twenty four or forty eight 62 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: hours whenever he's decided to make this request. I am 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: convinced this guy just sets a Google reminder to go 64 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: off every couple of weeks that says, be dramatic, cause headlines, whatever, 65 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: you know, stir shit up. Whatever he puts in his calendar, 66 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: that it's like set to like go off every couple 67 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: of weeks. I guess it went off here this morning 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: because just the timing of this is it's even for 69 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: him a little. 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: Perplexing, and I wonder if he's costing himself more money. 71 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: That's my surprise with the whole thing, because he's he's 72 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: an unrestricted free agent this offseason, and he thinks that 73 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 2: he could have signed a max deal in the offseason. 74 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: He obviously got an offer from the Nets, as you said, 75 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: that had guarantee. What are those guarantees? I didn't even see. 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just was in Schaum's article there up on 77 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: the Athletic. It wasn't specifics about that extension with guarantee stipulations. 78 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean that could be with him that could be anything. 79 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, games most likely games playing. 80 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: Most likely, that could be don't post crazy conspiracy shit 81 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: to your Instagram stories. I guess if you want to, 82 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: like put on the tinfoil hat. The timing of all this, 83 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: I know Dragonfly Jones a great follow on Twitter. He 84 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: basically said he he guarantees this is because Kyrie is pissed, 85 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: maybe got slapped on the wrist again or told hey, 86 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: all that shit you're posting to your Instagram stories knock 87 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: it off. Because he was posting clips of like Jordan 88 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: Peterson and Jason Whitlock and John Stockton, who I don't 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: really want to get into all the detail and the 90 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: issues with what they talk about and what they you know, 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: push as their agendas. He was sharing that recently, so 92 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: was he told what are you doing? Not this again? 93 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: And he's over it and he wants to be you know, 94 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: his quote unquote free man and his free thinking and 95 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: all that possibly. 96 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, I didn't realize that 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: was the thing. I definitely thought the five game suspension 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: was a part of it where he was reprimanded for 99 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: what he did, but that was a. 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Long time ago. Yeah, I mean really, yeah. 101 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: It was November, so yeah, why wouldn't he do it 102 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: immediately after that? Yeah, I'm sure that planted a seed, 103 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: just like there's been many seeds planted in his head 104 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: and Kevin durantset for whatever reason that they're thinking. 105 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, that sounds that sounds feasible that he wants 106 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 3: that he wants to do his own thing, because yeah, 107 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: it does seem like they're playing. 108 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: As you said, the record was good, they were playing basketball. 109 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Crazy to think that they were just playing basketball and 110 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 2: h and putting their heads down, And I just thought, yeah, 111 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: he would be trying to play for another max contract 112 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: because he's going to be a free agent this offseason. 113 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: At the beginning of the season, I said that Kyrie 114 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: would be the biggest name traded because nobody seemingly want 115 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: to play there. But when he wasn't getting the offer 116 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: and he wasn't signed long term and they started playing, well, 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: I was ready to eat my words. But yeah, the 118 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: idea that they offered him a contract even with whatever stipulations, 119 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: that's kudos to them for trying to make it work. Honestly, 120 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 2: for the Nets trying to make it work and not 121 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: just trying to deal him. I wonder what he could 122 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: possibly get back in a trade package. Now, what the 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: hell is his value right now leading into the trade deadline? 124 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can get to potential landing spots for a 125 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Kyrie trade. I mean, our team's gonna talk themselves into 126 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: him and his talented play that he is, you know, 127 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: still maintains the level that he's at. I'm sure even 128 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: though you have all this sort of call it baggage 129 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: red flags that pop up with this guy left and right. 130 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: He tweeted before this news broke because I want to 131 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: just go see, oh, what's Kyrie tweeting? And like, look, 132 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: you can do your head in with trying to decipher 133 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: some of these things. But he wrote this is Kyrie 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: again at one o'clock today to my peers, just be 135 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: yourself and grow, keep people around who celebrate you unconditionally, 136 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: and appreciate all of the hard work that gets put in. 137 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Distance yourself from the folks who manipulate, hate and hurt. 138 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: And then his little sign off there. I have no 139 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: clue when it comes to Kyrie if that tweet was 140 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: timed and has something to do with the then news 141 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: breaking an hour or two after from Sean's and everybody 142 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: that he's requested a trade. That is he trying to 143 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: distance himself from the Nets or who on the Nets 144 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: is he trying to distance himself from because of who 145 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: knows why. 146 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to speculate either. It's hard not to 147 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: when you start thinking about it. But really, when it 148 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: comes down to it, he's leaving. It sure feels like 149 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: the Nets have to distance themselves now. I guess the 150 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: idea is, what the hell are you going to get 151 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: back for him? Is somebody going to take a chance, 152 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: or even if you're the Nets, do you simply eat 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: this and say it's up to you right here, right now? 154 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: Do you want to play for a title here with 155 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant for the next three months and earn yourself 156 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: a contract? Or don't sit? I mean do they do 157 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: they give that ultimatum to him? Because I just have 158 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: a lot. 159 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: Of experience with these type of things, and right well, yeah. 160 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: I just wonder what they're going to get back from it. 161 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: They the question comes up, then do we trade Kevin Durant? 162 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: Even I mean, he's not going to be extremely happy 163 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: with this. I assume Kyrie did this on his own, 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: but it just feels like a real dagger in the 165 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: back of Kevin Durant as well. They signed there together 166 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 2: to do this thing together. Kyrie's his own dude, and 167 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 2: he obviously can do what he wants. But now, you know, 168 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: a couple of seasons here have been lit on fire, 169 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: and I wonder what the next front office does. You know, 170 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: we we'll get to all the trade packages. But I mean, 171 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: if you if you give him the ultimatum, play for 172 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: your next contract for the next four months, you know, 173 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: you know, I say four months, like the idea that 174 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: they can try and go deep into the postseason or yeah, 175 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 2: stay home. I wonder if they're they're thinking that, or 176 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: it's obviously trade him for yeah, fifty cents on the dollar, 177 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 2: right something not great? 178 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you keep saying this idea, this concept of like, 179 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: come on, man, just play and then you can make 180 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: a big contract with it. I don't think the Nets 181 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: want to give him his next contract. 182 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: They gave him an offer, well, I. 183 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Guess they did, with who knows what these stipulations are. 184 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: It's a good point, that's fair. Uh, And he is great, 185 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously amazing, but holy crap, Like I'm 186 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: tired of this, like this, this is just yes, this 187 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: is toxic obviously to trying to win a championship. To 188 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: have a guy that, hey, he might be good for 189 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, might be good for a month 190 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: or two, and then this it all ignites again. 191 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I know we talked about them as 192 00:10:54,600 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: a legit championship contenders in November, December, January, really you know, January, 193 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: and I didn't want to buy it, but because I 194 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: because of exactly that, I thought they had to move on. 195 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: They had to, you get, you got like they had 196 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: to move on, you know, at the beginning of the season, 197 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: when both their superstars wanted out, and then they you know, 198 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: they sat down with Kevin Durant, Fine, you stick around, Kyrie, 199 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: earn your contract, Fine, you stick around. 200 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Fine we'll fire the coach. 201 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: Fine that's yeah, right, but but here we are and 202 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: it was just two months. We got two good months 203 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: of Kyrie being playing basketball where it was quiet, and uh, yeah, 204 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: I totally agree. I mean, I'm even shocked to see 205 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: that they offered a contract stipulations or not. I bet 206 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: he was just pissed off with the stipulations. Yeah, I 207 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: don't know if there was a social media cap like 208 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: you can only tweet slash Instagram story four times a day, 209 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: or if the guarantees were about games played or whatever. 210 00:11:55,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: It seems like those stipulations were yeah, games or who knows, 211 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: who knows what I mean? 212 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: This is wild to think that the Brooklyn Nets have had. 213 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: Three superstars and all stars. 214 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: Probably Hall of famers, request a trade three of them, 215 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: three separate times within basically a calendar year, right, going 216 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: back to hard and doing it, getting traded for Ben Simmons, 217 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Katie doing it during the summer, and then walking back 218 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: that one, and now Kyrie saying, look, trade me here 219 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: before the deadline or I'm out of here in free agency. 220 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: So if you want to get something for me, go nuts. 221 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, And isn't it isn't it a bit of 222 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: a I say, it's a stab in the back of 223 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: Kevin Ramput, a stab in the back of the ownership 224 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: as well, at least buying into him. They were celebrating him, 225 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: Josie celebrating Kyrie Irving, trying to get behind him when 226 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: he was playing basketball. And I know he no one 227 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: owns Kyrie Irving and he doesn't. He can do what 228 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: he wants. But at the same time, it felt like 229 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: they were together for a bit, they were on the 230 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: same page. But who the hell knows what's going on 231 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: behind closed doors? Who is the the reason for three 232 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: guys requesting a trade? As you said, the first the 233 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: first time it would happened to James Harten, it seemed 234 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: like it was Kyrie. Ving was the cause of everything 235 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: when Kevin Durant did it. Was it Kyrie? Or was 236 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: it ownership? Or was it Steve Nash be. 237 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: A common denominator possibly? 238 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but Jacques Bond was the coach all of 239 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: a sudden, and all was good. 240 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: It's very true. True. Well, let's get to like potential 241 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: trade packages. Yeah, but that's what everybody wants to. 242 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,119 Speaker 2: Talk the best part of this terrible emergency podcast. 243 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, well let's start with is any team 244 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: in the right mind going to trade for Kyrie? Let's 245 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: start there. 246 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: I got to be desperate, Okay, I think the Lakers 247 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: are desperate enough. Maybe this is wishful thinking that we 248 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: see another trade just from a selfish point of view, 249 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: but they are not winning as constructed. It's that's clear. 250 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: They can't. They They're not winning anything. Their timeline is very, 251 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: very very short. I think Rob Polenka can talk himself 252 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: into saying it worked with Lebron before, and it's just 253 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: a it's a short runway here. He doesn't have to 254 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: We don't have to sign him to an extension right away, 255 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: do we? Depending on what they give back. But if 256 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: you don't have to give back a lot, why not 257 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: give that a shot? Is that ridiculous? 258 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: No, incredibly not. It feels like we're just going to 259 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: get to Kyrie Irving on the Lakers, like we thought 260 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: a long time ago, and it just took way longer 261 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: than maybe anticipated. But it's gonna take a pick in 262 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: the future, maybe two picks for a player of his caliber, 263 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: despite the despite the bag as it comes with him, 264 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, not cheap in the sense. But are you 265 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: really convinced that if Kyrie Irving is on the Lakers 266 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: team with Ad and Lebron, like, that's that's championship caliber. 267 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: It's better than what they have. Yeah, that's it's it's 268 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 2: a risk. It's a risk that they get bad real quick, 269 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: because there's been three trade requests in the last year, 270 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: so three trade requests in the last twelve months. It's 271 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: freaking unbelievable. So you take a risk of implosion with 272 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: the Lakers two for sure, But don't you think it's 273 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: worth the risk? I know it's it sounds crazy, but 274 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: they like they're not winning. Would you rather trade a 275 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: first for a buddy Heeled if he's available or somebody 276 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: like that? While Kyrie's ceiling is a lot higher. 277 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean westbrook is involved in this hypothetical trick, yeah, 278 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: which means like that's sort of you're attaching a pick 279 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: to get off of Westbrooks contract. 280 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: Yes, well it's expiring for expiring, that's true. But yeah, 281 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: the Nets are going to want an asset back, but 282 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: they are not in a point from uh trading from 283 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 2: a position of leverage here. So yeah, Kyrie and Kessler 284 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: Edwards in the trade machine just just I threw it 285 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: out there, just to just an additional contract to make 286 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: it work with Russ plus the pick plus a protective pick. 287 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: I think, I think you go for it if you're 288 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: the Lakers. I think that one is somewhat logical. It's 289 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: not logical. Nothing here is logical, But but the Lakers 290 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: have to go for it, I think. And that's that's 291 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: the best player available, there's no doubt about that. I mean, 292 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: what what what What are they going to ask him 293 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: to do? Is that is what's going to be part 294 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: of his contract? In l a social media tweets only 295 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: between four and six pm, Like you know, with an 296 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: assistant at your side, it's tough to say, but you know, yes, 297 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 2: it seems seems like the best match for me right now. 298 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: Okay, what about I mean, that's the most you know 299 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: commonly talked about trade here Kyrie to the Lakers because 300 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: of the rust contract, because of those picks. Are there 301 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: any other teams though that could like swoop in here 302 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: that would want to swoop in here and try and 303 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: get Kyrie quote unquote cheap because of this weird situation 304 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: where he suddenly wants out a week before the deadline? Like, 305 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: is it the Clippers? Is it another team? Who you got? 306 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: That's the team? I was going to say, tell me 307 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: if I'm crazy, tell me if I'm absolutely nuts by 308 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: saying the Clippers are also at a point where year 309 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: four here with the Kawhi Paul George experiment, they've been 310 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 2: looking for a point guard to help them out. They 311 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: need to do something, They want to do something. Is 312 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: this is it enough? Maybe? Maybe not? But they're also 313 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: at sort of at the end of their rope, I think, 314 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: so they would have to package together, cobble together a 315 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: lot more cheaper contracts I saw, you know, going through 316 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: the the old trade machine. Basically the best player I 317 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: think that they would give up is Terrence Mann, which 318 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: you know isn't all that exciting for the Nets, I'm sure, 319 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: although you known Man has been solid and they probably 320 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't want to give him up. But Man and then 321 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: a few of their wings would work in Marcus Morris 322 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: Canard and but toom those four plus maybe a pick, 323 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: some sort of pick would work. They do have some picks, 324 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: although they you know, they did a lot with the 325 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: Shay Gilges Alexander trade for Paul George kind of makes 326 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: sense to me. 327 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: Is there definitely like they're hail Mary, right, and it's 328 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: like you're just chucking it up and just closing your eyes, 329 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: crossing your fingers that it will all work out because 330 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: this is a this is a very talented yet all 331 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: over the map type of individual, and it's like it 332 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: could work for a little bit maybe you maybe it's fantastic, 333 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: and then obviously the opposite can happen, where it's it's 334 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: it's it feels like it could be one tweet or 335 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: one uh Instagram story or one comment that he says 336 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: that he feels like he has to tell the world 337 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: that suddenly you're franchising is in disarray and you've upset 338 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: your fans and everything. So yeah, Clippers, I get. I mean, 339 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: that's there's a hole there, there's a there's a need 340 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: for a point guard like him. That's where that makes sense. 341 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm seeing people here in the stream team show it. 342 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Everybody joining us live, hit the like button, subscribe if 343 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: you haven't here, but like people throwing out, uh wow, 344 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Luca needs that second star? Is that Kyrie? You know, 345 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about the Raptors. Could MASSI 346 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: suddenly be interested in Kyrie and get in there. You're 347 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: shaking your head like a lot of these. 348 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's just been my permanent position for the last 349 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: twenty minutes. I've just been shaking my head. You called 350 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: the desperation of Hail Mary. Those organizations are not in 351 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: that mode. I don't think either of those organizations, in 352 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: the Raps or the MAVs, who some might think they're desperate, 353 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: would make a move like that. I think the the 354 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: Raps are ready to pounce on the Kevin Durant possibility. 355 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't count that out, that Kevin Durant 356 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: would be traded as well. I know that sounds also 357 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: a little bit crazy, but. 358 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: He was saying like within the week, it's like the 359 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: let's go all right, well Kyrie wants out of here, 360 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Let's get whatever we can get for him. And then hey, Katie, sorry, man, 361 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: looking around. It's like the Will Smith meme where he's 362 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: just in the living room and it's all cleared out 363 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: and he's just standing on the carpet and it's like, 364 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: all right, Katie, I guess we'll trade you too. I 365 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Oh, I mean, I don't know. 366 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: It's Davis. 367 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: That's We're good the Nets. We're a champion ship contender. 368 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: Now. 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people push back on that, said, are 370 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: they when will Kyrie turn into Kyrie again? But obviously 371 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: talent wise, they were, you know, one of the best 372 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: teams in the league there for a good stretch until 373 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: Katie went down. 374 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: The Brooklyn Nets were a championship contender last year. When 375 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Durant went down, they were first in the Eastern Conference. 376 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: In the offseason, he said, I am done here. They 377 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: were a championship contender the year before when they went 378 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: to the second round and lost in Game seven. In 379 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: the first year there of the experiment with James Harden 380 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 2: and Kyrie Irving and didn't get too far because of 381 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: the injuries. Really, it seems like they would have beat 382 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: the eventual champions in the second round there. So this 383 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 2: is it's not surprising that they're good at basketball when 384 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: they do play, but this is deja vu. We were 385 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: here six months ago in August talking about Kevin Durant 386 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: wanting it out. It would be dumb of us to 387 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: think that that's changed, that he wants to be there 388 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: long term. And I know it sounds crazy. It does 389 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: sound crazy that Kevin Durant would want out, or that 390 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: they would trade Kevin Durant. But I wonder if Kevin 391 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: Durant's value could ever be higher. I mean, he's playing 392 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: his best basketball. He's only going to be older in 393 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: the offseason when deals like that for superstars happen more often. 394 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 2: But this is a unique situation. I can't remember a 395 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: situation ever like this in the NBA where guys want out. 396 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: So it does sound crazy, but I would say that 397 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: the Raptors wouldn't jump on this Kyrie thing. 398 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like Kyrie fits into the Raptors culture. 399 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: No, even even the MAVs, although he's a second star. 400 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: Do you think that Cuban would take a shot He 401 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: would take that much of a risk. He's a risk. 402 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: Honestly gets down to how cheap are we talking about 403 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: for Kyrie here? I mean, and we say cheap, I 404 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: mean contracts have to come back. But in the sense of, 405 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: like you're not giving back too much talent, too many picks? 406 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: Have the Nets reached a breaking point here where they're like, well, 407 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: we know he's leaving in the off season. He just 408 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: told us. We don't care to convince them otherwise. We're 409 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: done with this, so let's just move them. And like 410 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: you said, that's not a power position to be in. 411 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: But it's like, a hey, man, just take our losses, 412 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: get something back. We've got Katie, you know, We've got Ben, 413 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: We've got Claxton, you know, we've got other we can 414 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: just we'll just move forward and hopefully get a pick 415 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: or two back. It's just like to me, it's like, 416 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: how little would it take to get Kyrie on one 417 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: of these teams? The MAVs, whatever, team like Clippers. I 418 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: think teams would take a chance, they take the risk 419 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: for his talent, but I don't think they're giving up 420 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: the farm for it. You know, this is not Mitchell packages, 421 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: This is not Go Bear packages, like not even. 422 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 2: Right, No, I'm not even close. The more we talk 423 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: about it, it seems like there's one team that would 424 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: offer the most because they're at a point of desperation, 425 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: and also because there's been one individual in the history 426 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: of the NBA that's gotten the most out of Kyrie Irving, 427 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: and that's been enough of a powerful figure to put 428 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: his arm around Kyrie and just you know, take him 429 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: to the promised Land, and that's Lebron will Well, Rob 430 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: Alnkaus think that one drive, one first round pick, you know, 431 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 2: depending on the protections, is worth it. Probably at this 432 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: point of the game. It feels like they're desperate enough. Now, 433 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, we got to think about the other side too. 434 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: Does Kyrie want to play with Lebron again? Does he 435 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: want to be the little brother? Maybe not. He despised 436 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: it when he was in Cleveland, and I can't just 437 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: assume that he'd want to play there. So dude, they 438 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: could make the trade and he not show up. They 439 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a no trade clause, he can't veto anything. 440 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you could see him not 441 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: showing up. I don't think that's right out of the question. 442 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: Another team that people are throwing in the chat here, 443 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: and you've seen, like anytime a big name becomes available 444 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: or whatever is pat Riley and Spolster in the Miami Heat. 445 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, get getting in there seeing who they could 446 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: get and acquiring talent like his. That's always a possibility. 447 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: I haven't fired up any sort of trade machine to 448 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: get Kyrie on the heat, but I guess. I guess 449 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: pat Riley is always He's always. 450 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: Lurking, So sure, yeah, I didn't. I didn't go that 451 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: far down the trade machine rabbit hole. I got to 452 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: both las. I did my l a work, and then 453 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: I was done. And our manager Rome here chiming in 454 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: behind the scenes saying that Toronto lou Clippers head coach 455 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: as the other Kyrie whisper right. They obviously have the 456 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: relationship winning that champion together. But that's different, I think 457 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 2: than Lebron. I don't know. Again, here, he may hate 458 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: wanting I hate the idea of playing with Lebron again. 459 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 2: Who the heck knows? 460 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: The Phoenix Suns too, is one that is continually being 461 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: thrown around, you know, even this idea of like moving 462 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Chris Paul to the Nets, Kyrie coming back to the Sons, 463 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: other moving pieces like look is it crowder In? There 464 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: is it Cam Johnson? There are picks the Son's new owner. 465 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: You want to make a splashy move Kyrie alongside Booker. 466 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby's spicy, but it's spicy. Chris Paul's salary doesn't 467 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: doesn't line up, but it's not too far so they 468 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: could make it work, especially with a team that doesn't 469 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 2: necessarily value the draft the way other teams do, so 470 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: maybe willing to give one of their picks or have 471 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: less protections on their picks. And they have all their picks, 472 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: James Jones has kept them all in the cupboard and 473 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 2: it feels like their window is closing as currently constructed. 474 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: But giving up Chris Paul plus a pick and plus 475 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: some other fodder, I guess it makes sense. Who who 476 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: wants to take that risk? And you're also we're all 477 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: talking about a rental here unless he signs an extension, 478 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: and if they want to sign him to an extension too. 479 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am terrified about this Warren Entertainment here in 480 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: the stream team thirty minutes from now, Kyrie will say, 481 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I changed my mind. I love the Nets. 482 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 2: I want to retire here. 483 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: It's a ton to joke about. But there is a 484 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: small little part of me it's like it's possible. I 485 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: almost didn't want to do an emergency podcast because I 486 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: was like, give it an hour. Give it an hour, 487 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: will be good. But we'll learn more of this story. 488 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: What really set this off? Why now? What was the reasoning? 489 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: What is this like this contract that was thrown his way, 490 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: with these stipulations that have pissed him off. Did it 491 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: have to do with these Instagram stories? We'll learn. It'll 492 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: come out over the weekend, over the next couple of weeks. 493 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess why, I'm a betting man. Jeez, 494 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: don't do that with Kyrie. But if I am, the 495 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: Nets will move him here, They'll move him. He's like completely. 496 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we can't have every superstar on your team 497 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: demanding a trade and then uh and then turning around 498 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: being okay with it. So I mean, I think I 499 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: tweeted out Kyrie to the Lakers. Let's just save everybody 500 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: the hassle of a week of speculation. Let's just do it. 501 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's just do it. They have picks, I've got contracts. 502 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: You can make it. This can this can be a 503 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: reality here. 504 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 505 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: So if I'm betting, I'm going. 506 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: That Rob Pelinka is on his lawn. He's got to sign, 507 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: got picks, got contracts, will trade make it work? I think, yeah, Yeah, 508 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: you got to be in that that mindset where you 509 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: you got to go for it this season. 510 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 3: M hm. 511 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: Because he's not signed for next season. He may not 512 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: want to play for your team next season. He may 513 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 2: not want to play basketball next season. That's a total speculation. 514 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: He's I'm just surprised that we're at this point with 515 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: the way that they've played and we're gelling, and he 516 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: was a fourth quarter assassin for a while. But I agree, 517 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: I would give it after today, Yeah, I would expect 518 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: him to be dealt. It's amazing, it's really amazing. 519 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, let's hear from everybody, either watching, listening later. You 520 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: can tweet at us at No Dunk Sync your thoughts 521 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 1: on the Kyrie requesting a trade from the Brooklyn Nets. 522 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Here we go again with these nets. You tell us 523 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: where's he going? Where do you want him to go? 524 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: What's your best trade package? Let us know in the comments, 525 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, tweet them in. You guys have been 526 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: great here in the stream. 527 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: Team, I got off, I got off the treadmill for Kyrie. 528 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: Uh and I know you got a long run coming tomorrow, skeetz. 529 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Well, I was walking out the door tasks with my dog. 530 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: I was about to take Luna for a walk. So Luna, 531 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: Luna is really pissed off with Yeah that that walk 532 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: got shut down real quick. 533 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: She's going to demand a trade from your house. 534 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: My dog's going to demand a trade for me. 535 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I heard there's a house down the street. 536 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: She's got a yard, bigger, bigger yard. Uh. You know 537 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: they got they got other toys that they could trade 538 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: for Luna. Maybe maybe not as great a dog, but 539 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: they have a dog that they could trade for Luna. 540 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: I'm never trading my dog. We're no way, man. Are 541 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: you crazy? Give me one hundred dogs for this dog? 542 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Not a chance. But I'll get out there. Yeah. I 543 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: mean when I shared it in the slack, the first 544 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: thing I shared, I thought it was a joke. I 545 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: was like this might be a joke tweet here it is. 546 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: I said, this can't be true because it was from 547 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: Underdog NBA. That's what I first saw, at least out 548 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: out to the underdog. Kyrie Irving has requested to trade 549 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: from the nets. And then of course I went right 550 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: to Shams and yeah he had it. Hence why Underdog 551 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure had it. And then Jerome wondering if you 552 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: should jump on a plane and get down here from 553 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: Toronto as we get ready for. 554 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: A trade deadline week. I too. You also walked out 555 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: of the studio saying get ready big week next week, 556 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: trade deadline week. And I said, I was thinking, come on, 557 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: come on, we may get Marvin Bagley trade on Tuesday, 558 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: but it'll be trade deadline day on Thursday, and then 559 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, all of a sudden, this hits, 560 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: and be ready, be ready to stop your run, turn 561 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: it around tomorrow, because who the heck knows. 562 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie is getting traded on the weekend. I don't know, 563 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: hopefully not hopefully little bit time. 564 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 2: So I can't I can't wait to find out the 565 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: contract that they offer him and that he turned he 566 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: turned down. It feels like a bit of a slap 567 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: in the face to the to the franchise. 568 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: Well, you don't know what it is. Could be a 569 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: slap in the face to him. That's how he's probably 570 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: taking it. 571 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: Well, they offered him a long term deal, Yeah, I 572 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: don't know that. I don't know the dollar figures for sure, 573 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 2: that that's part of it. But if the stipulations are 574 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 2: you got to play in games, I mean that is 575 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: that too much to ask? It depends on the money, 576 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: the dollar figures, But it seems like if there's like, 577 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: like we talked about guarantees. Those guarantees usually mean yeah, 578 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: getting to a certain amount of games per season, but anyway. 579 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 1: Usually but when it comes to Kyra, this could be 580 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: like a very specific sure thing that set him off here. 581 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm convinced they are linked all of this, 582 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: and we'll find out what's you know. Look, well, we'll 583 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: wrap up this podcast and we'll probably be back in 584 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: an hour after he's traded to the fricking Denver Nuggets 585 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: for all I know, who knows wild wild stuff. Again, 586 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: thanks everybody for joining us a lot. If here draw 587 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: you got any thoughts on this? 588 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was such a nice Friday. Uh No, just 589 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 4: we got some comments in there, and I went to 590 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: check in. We have an update from Mark Stein small one. 591 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: The Lakers and Mavericks are among the teams. Brooklyn is 592 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 4: expected to engage in Kyrie Irving trade talks as guest 593 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: Thursday's three pm trade down on Approaches leak sours. 594 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: A say, okay, so they're in the you know they're 595 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: the front runners right now in the Kyrie Irving sweepstakes. 596 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 4: My god, wow, I will go get packed right now. 597 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, when are you coming down? Tuesday? 598 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Tuesday? 599 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole leagues is caun be Tuesday. The whole 600 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: league is can be completely different by then. 601 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 602 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: I'm trying to reverse it by saying everything's going to 603 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 4: change and hopefully we get a quiet, nice weekend. 604 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, don't don't bet on it. 605 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll wait to see where Kyrie goes. 606 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: We will be back unless we're back with another emergency 607 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: podcast on Monday at ten am Easter and we do 608 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: our NBA weekend winners in the users that may be 609 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: pushed down the rundown. I assume we might be starting 610 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: with the Kyrie Irving news here, and we'll have to 611 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: hear from TK and his thoughts on the matter, and 612 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: maybe we'll know a whole lot more about that contract 613 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: that they offered him, or what has created this trade request. 614 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 2: From Kyrie Irving for Spencer Dinwiddie and Christian. What worse 615 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: than the trade machine? 616 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: What about Burton's tim hardaway and a pick for Kyrie Irving? 617 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: I saw somebody throwing that out A lot less sexy than. 618 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 2: Yours, Dinwiddy Back to the Nets. They didn't want to 619 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: pay Christian would make. 620 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: It happen all right, Perfect time to wrap it up 621 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: with some crazy wild MAVs nets trades. Guys, Thank you, 622 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We will see you on Monday. 623 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: Are we doing clipper pros here? You might go to 624 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: the clippers? We probably should, hear from the clipper pro himself. 625 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: You heard it here first. 626 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Have a great time, turn up. 627 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 4: Love you guys, awesome. 628 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and I remember there's still some Friday left. 629 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: Go enjoy it. 630 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: Brace here getting people 631 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: M hm.