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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Friday, September eighth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number thirty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're life in the SUBC Mortgage Studios. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: you ready for this Sunday's opening game for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Cowboys take on the Giant Sunday Night Football, seven thirty
Speaker 1: pm at AT and T Stadium, and we got all
Speaker 1: the information for you guys on what exactly is going
Speaker 1: to happen, what you should expect, and at the end
Speaker 1: of the show, we'll give you some predictions, some crazy predictions,
Speaker 1: and some predictions for the game. We did that did
Speaker 1: not of our show with Taylor and Brian. We'll keep
Speaker 1: doing that. Good. How's everybody doing this morning? I almost
Speaker 1: mouthed off to you right there, and then I stopped
Speaker 1: myself so I'm so glad you're starting to see you
Speaker 1: and Zeke both some growth, some maturity. Like that's a
Speaker 1: good thing. You know, that's a good thing. Let's keep
Speaker 1: it going, all right. Let's uh really glad that you
Speaker 1: said that, because I just tweeted out the periscope and
Speaker 1: I said, we got some crazy predictions today, And as
Speaker 1: I hit send, I said, I wonder if we're still
Speaker 1: doing that. And then, you know, if if you were
Speaker 1: to read the email that I sinned like the night
Speaker 1: before you did, well, I don't know if you it
Speaker 1: looks sounds good to me. Amber's probably the only one
Speaker 1: that it takes time to read it. I did, I
Speaker 1: did read it. You did? You just be saying consciously,
Speaker 1: I kind of knew that it was in there. And
Speaker 1: that's what we do on Friday. Yeah. Good, Okay, So
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in the final segment, as we
Speaker 1: normally do on Fridays here on the break, But for
Speaker 1: right now, let's start talking. Sits here for the for
Speaker 1: the talking, for the hanging with the boys whatever, who
Speaker 1: sits here? I think that's Kurt for hanging with the boys.
Speaker 1: For talking. That would be Mickey. Yeah, why it's always
Speaker 1: jacked up. I think it was a player. Actually, I
Speaker 1: think it was a player layer was sitting there. They
Speaker 1: do have a player on. Maybe the player was sitting there.
Speaker 1: I don't know who though. It's Jonathan Cooper. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper. Actually, we're gonna talk about Jonathan Cooper here
Speaker 1: in just a second, not first. We might talk about
Speaker 1: him second, but we probably won't talk first. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's start first with some injury talk. Cowboys looking good
Speaker 1: for this this weekend. Everybody on the team practice in
Speaker 1: some form or fashion yesterday, except for Anthony Hitchins, who
Speaker 1: we know it is going to be out for presumably
Speaker 1: four or five weeks whatever it's gonna be. Um, but
Speaker 1: it looks like from all accounts said, everybody that they
Speaker 1: want to be available to them will be available to them,
Speaker 1: barring possibly Jordan Lewis, who still isn't completely practicing. What
Speaker 1: just keep going, please keep going? All right? So, UM,
Speaker 1: I guess from that's the end point you feel good
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. But on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: we spent some time talking yesterday about Odell Beckham. He
Speaker 1: did not practice again yesterday. You guys convinced yet? We
Speaker 1: convinced yet? Yeah? I've totally changed my tune. I think
Speaker 1: now he's definitely not gonna play. Definitely, I thought he was. No,
Speaker 1: he's still playing all the way until kickoff. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean if if I'm wrong, if you're wrong, you owe
Speaker 1: all of us lunch. That's what we said. Yet I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I'm good with it. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not sold at all that. I don't feel any differently.
Speaker 1: I think it's still a good bet that he plays,
Speaker 1: but I'm I think he's not gonna be worth anything basically.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think he runs out there and he's
Speaker 1: just kind of decoy guy. He's not gonna be DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Ware against the Oh nine Saints. He's not gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and just be a stud after not being
Speaker 1: able to he can't move around well enough to practice.
Speaker 1: I don't buy that, and that's why I don't think
Speaker 1: he plays. I don't think they put him out there
Speaker 1: if all he's doing is just kind of hobbling around.
Speaker 1: I think they might because again, like when you when
Speaker 1: you're talking about that caliber of player, and maybe they're wrong,
Speaker 1: but like that's the way NFL teams think. It's like
Speaker 1: having him out there and having him in uniform is something.
Speaker 1: But you know that. But I think when when teams
Speaker 1: do that, I think it only takes a series for
Speaker 1: the other team to say he can't do anything. So
Speaker 1: we're not we're not going to be distracted by that,
Speaker 1: like and so I don't I don't think it really matters.
Speaker 1: I still lean toward Nick's line of thinking that like
Speaker 1: when a guy of that caliber, and it's true he
Speaker 1: has to be medically cleared and all that stuff, but
Speaker 1: like those guys find a way to get into the game.
Speaker 1: And so it's like people see him at practice, have
Speaker 1: seen videos of him kind of jog in and running around.
Speaker 1: I've seen it too, But I think the problem will
Speaker 1: come when he needs to make those cuts. You know,
Speaker 1: that's where the ankle issue comes. Yeah, I think we're
Speaker 1: taking two different things. Like the argument is will he
Speaker 1: play what he's gonna do? Like I'm I'm agreeing with
Speaker 1: all of y'all about that, Like I if he's not,
Speaker 1: if he just started jogging on Wednesday, doesn't see or
Speaker 1: that's what was being reported, who knows behind closed doors
Speaker 1: if he's over there and making cuts and all that,
Speaker 1: and he wants to come out with his cape and
Speaker 1: was Superman and all that because he's very out in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair like Paul Pierce and just stand up dramatically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're kind of awesome. I don't know. Just to be clear,
Speaker 1: I don't playing. It's not a man. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play well. I'm saying I
Speaker 1: don't think he's playing. The easy comparison here would be
Speaker 1: Jason Witten, but that's too hard because he never misses
Speaker 1: a game. So let's take it to another player and say,
Speaker 1: if Sean Lee was facing this same issue and was
Speaker 1: in the same exact situation, do you think he's not
Speaker 1: finding a way out there? No, Sean Lee took two
Speaker 1: million dollars on the table and that one meaningless game
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen and said, now I'm not gonna play
Speaker 1: for two million dollars meaningless game two million dollars if anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he couldn't if he couldn't run well
Speaker 1: and couldn't play up to his potential, I don't think
Speaker 1: he plays. I think he would be like, get another
Speaker 1: roll of tape, throw it on there. You know, would
Speaker 1: you want to do that to one of your best players?
Speaker 1: Right the start? Of the season Week one. I understand
Speaker 1: they're going against the fact is, this is not O'Dell's decision.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a decision that's made by their
Speaker 1: medical staff and decision made by their coach. It's not
Speaker 1: going to be an Odell decision. The word coming out
Speaker 1: of New York is that it's a fifty fifty shot.
Speaker 1: And again, yes he has to be cleared medically, assuming
Speaker 1: he's cleared medically, but nobody feels good about what he'll
Speaker 1: be able to do. Still think he'll be out there,
Speaker 1: not saying he'll be affectively, he probably won't be. A
Speaker 1: fact like if I had to guess he plays like
Speaker 1: thirty percent of the snaps and finishes with like two
Speaker 1: catches for twenty five yards or something like, he's just
Speaker 1: happy JJ Wilcox isn't back there. Yeah, great points. Well,
Speaker 1: either way, whether he plays or not, he won't. I
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be a problem for the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: I'm way more concerned about Brandon Marshall. Sounds like that
Speaker 1: just sounds like famous last words for whatever that's worth.
Speaker 1: Mike just like, he won't be a problem for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He's the best receiver and then come Monday, we're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, touchdown third fourth. Yeah. I don't know
Speaker 1: that he won't look like he won't look like the
Speaker 1: Odell that we've gotten used to seeing, but I kind
Speaker 1: of leaned toward thinking he'll be out there. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: we will see on Sunday. Let's get to some inactives
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. This will be This is always the
Speaker 1: tough part when you have the early part of the season,
Speaker 1: you're relatively healthy, and you're having to decide what, guys,
Speaker 1: what seven guys that are on your sixty four sixty
Speaker 1: three man roster aren't gonna actually I'm sorry, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: getting this right. No, on your fifty three man roster. Sorry,
Speaker 1: the forty six that will actually play, the seven that
Speaker 1: are not going to play. So I'm gonna run down
Speaker 1: some names for you guys, and I want you to
Speaker 1: tell me whether you think that they will be active
Speaker 1: or inactive. All right, let's start with Jordan Lewis in inactive? Inactive? Good? Uh?
Speaker 1: Jay Elliott, the linebacker they picked up active active, all right? Uh?
Speaker 1: Noah Brown inactive? Uh yeah, inactive. I sat next to
Speaker 1: Daga Stright at practice while he did this, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably agree, so I'm gonna let Dave just you can.
Speaker 1: I don't really disagree with anything. I think you can
Speaker 1: write six of these in stone. There's one, but go ahead, okay, Um,
Speaker 1: this one is a choice Kellen Moore or Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: One of them will be inactive? Which one Rush? I
Speaker 1: think Cooper Rush will be inactive? Great will Yeah, he
Speaker 1: will be, Okay, not should be? Is that what you're saying? Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, Anthony Hitchins obviously inactive? Inactive? Ben ben Wickery
Speaker 1: the cornerback that they pick ah active, you think active,
Speaker 1: I'm not sold. I don't. And that's kind of there's
Speaker 1: like this, there's there's a handful of candidates for that.
Speaker 1: I think his I think whether or not he's active
Speaker 1: depends entirely on Shitabay Woodsier and Cheeto has practiced two
Speaker 1: of the three days this week. Fully, you're saying one
Speaker 1: of the two of them, I wouldn't be surprised. I
Speaker 1: would be if if Cheeto was inactive, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 1: I'm saying if the only way, not the only way.
Speaker 1: I could see Benwickery being inactive. If they think Cheetos really,
Speaker 1: if he's good to go, and I think he is.
Speaker 1: I think he is a candidate to be inactive. I
Speaker 1: think I think he'll he'll be active. And if he's
Speaker 1: not active, I think that was a huge mistake. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: why why get him? Then? I mean, why not get
Speaker 1: the player who can play? If you're gonna go out
Speaker 1: and get someone, I know, they didn't give up a lot,
Speaker 1: and they may not give up anything. I guess if
Speaker 1: he doesn't it it's a longer thing. I mean, he
Speaker 1: just got here. Maybe I don't think he's ready to
Speaker 1: play this week. That doesn't mean he's not ready to
Speaker 1: play by week two. Then, I like, right then, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's the right guy then. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that's part of the factor when you when you're
Speaker 1: signing a player, going to get a certain player, I
Speaker 1: mean you get a player not only the guy that
Speaker 1: can help you, but a guy that that is ready
Speaker 1: to play. His readiness to come in and contribute for
Speaker 1: you should be a factor in taking him over him, him,
Speaker 1: him and him that at the beginning. Go ahead. This
Speaker 1: is a great segue because I talked to Ben a
Speaker 1: ben Wickery yesterday and I'm going to put a story
Speaker 1: up about it. Later, I was just kind of talking
Speaker 1: to him about the process of getting ready to play
Speaker 1: in a new defense in six days, and he's, you know,
Speaker 1: he's got then he's playing then, because David, not knowing
Speaker 1: how busy the site's gonna be and how full it's
Speaker 1: going to be, he's not going to put a story
Speaker 1: up about a player who will be inactive. He's playing. Wow,
Speaker 1: thanks for that voting confidence. I hope I'm not finish
Speaker 1: your story. Yeah, you know, it was really right. It
Speaker 1: was really enlightening. Just uh, you know, people always talk
Speaker 1: about how simple Rob Marinelli's scheme is and how helpful
Speaker 1: that is, and he said, you know, this is not
Speaker 1: These are not concepts I'm not familiar with. It's just
Speaker 1: the terminology I've got to learn, have to learn my
Speaker 1: base calls. I thought this was really interesting, which I
Speaker 1: don't even know how you pick this up in five days.
Speaker 1: But he was like, the big thing you gotta do
Speaker 1: is try to figure out what a coach wants to
Speaker 1: call in a certain situation. So like what is Rod
Speaker 1: like to call on third and eight, or you know,
Speaker 1: what are his early down calls? And once you kind
Speaker 1: of get a feel for that, then you can just
Speaker 1: go out there and let it flow. But then at
Speaker 1: the end, so I don't know. I probably talked to
Speaker 1: him for five minutes and he said if I don't
Speaker 1: remember the exact what, but he basically said, if they
Speaker 1: need me, then I think I can go out there
Speaker 1: and get through a game. And I was like, in
Speaker 1: my head, I was like, well, they kind of need you,
Speaker 1: like are you are you not sure if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be up or down? So I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that's interesting. I think I think he could be inactive,
Speaker 1: but I would lean toward him being active. I think,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, he's he's no Sterling more than
Speaker 1: remember when they brought in Sterling Moore for the first time,
Speaker 1: it seemed like they got him a few times. I'm
Speaker 1: about to say he's been there a few times. They
Speaker 1: signed him. They picked him up from the airport Friday night,
Speaker 1: like at five or six o'clock. I had to go
Speaker 1: get him from something. I guess he get cut by
Speaker 1: New England or whatever. Claimed Friday night. They played the
Speaker 1: Steelers on Sunday. Just you know, by Friday the players
Speaker 1: are already gone and out, and he picked it up,
Speaker 1: played played really well in the game. So I just
Speaker 1: think that not all positions, but I think cornerback is
Speaker 1: one where you can kind of get through it a
Speaker 1: little bit, and sometimes you're pressed into doing that because
Speaker 1: you have to. Yeah, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: a situation where where ben Wickeries if they have to
Speaker 1: have him the presence, if if Cheeto's fully capable of playing,
Speaker 1: and you've got your young safeties and everything. I don't
Speaker 1: got thirty three that are going to be playing the most,
Speaker 1: so that you have to have him. But I think
Speaker 1: he's got a good shot to be out there. How
Speaker 1: many do we have right now? Right now, We've got Lewis,
Speaker 1: We've got Brown, We've got Rush, we've got Hitchens. That's four.
Speaker 1: Ben Wickery would be your fifth. Why don't we hold
Speaker 1: him and hold him? All? Right? Charles Tapper, I lean
Speaker 1: see that. And that's the other one too, Like that's
Speaker 1: the tricky spot that I'm in where I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if Tapper sits. But playing a whole game with
Speaker 1: seven defensive lineman sounds kind of dicey. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: let's hold those both of those, okay. Um, I think
Speaker 1: and you look at the history of what they do
Speaker 1: with the running backs. One of these two guys I
Speaker 1: would presume is going to be an active Darren McFadden
Speaker 1: or Alfred Morse. You guys agree with that, You're so,
Speaker 1: which do you think is an active Morris? I lean
Speaker 1: toward Morris based on lean I lean toward Morris based
Speaker 1: on prior experience, But it's it's all up to I mean,
Speaker 1: what they want to, Yeah, what what they see in
Speaker 1: this matchup, you know, Yeah, And I mean the fact
Speaker 1: that Zeke's out here. I always say that Morris is
Speaker 1: the guy that most closely resembles what Zeke does, which
Speaker 1: so I would lean toward him sitting. But again, you
Speaker 1: have both of those guys, you don't need them both.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised by either one. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, obviously, it looks like over the years, over
Speaker 1: the you know years, it's that he's been here. It
Speaker 1: seems like they have this this affinity for McFadden. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I think if you look at
Speaker 1: the preseason, I think Morris looked better than McFadden. To me,
Speaker 1: I thought, so, I'm kind of leaning toward maybe, But
Speaker 1: if I if I were choosing, I would say maybe
Speaker 1: McFadden would be inactive, and I'd keep Morrison and let's
Speaker 1: see what we could do with him on you know,
Speaker 1: spell when he has to spell Zeke. Yeah. But but
Speaker 1: the role that you would be playing, um, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think McFadden would be better or for that role. I
Speaker 1: mean as a starter. I think Morris might be better
Speaker 1: for the starter, but I think McFadden would be better
Speaker 1: for a backup role. I would probably keep McFadden as
Speaker 1: this role and keep him here throughout whatever the suspension is,
Speaker 1: keep him here. But you know, it wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys standpoint to say, why don't we not
Speaker 1: play McFadden because we're gonna have to play McFadden after
Speaker 1: this if we don't want to give Denver a look
Speaker 1: on him or anything that we do with him. Point,
Speaker 1: you know, if we have to, you know. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things in play here. I consider it
Speaker 1: six to one and half a dozen or the other
Speaker 1: and whoever's up probably won't get that much work. And
Speaker 1: and as hopefully as Scott Linehan said, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna give him the ball a lot, you know, And
Speaker 1: I don't think he did go as far to say
Speaker 1: We're gonna run him into the ground because you know
Speaker 1: he might be suspended for the next six weeks, seven weeks. Really,
Speaker 1: I expected to be the Zeke Show and not the
Speaker 1: running back Number two show. So all right, let me
Speaker 1: give you one other name, Jonathan Cooper. Possibility he's inactive,
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, it's the same. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: the Ron Leary Lyle Collins conundrum. I mean, although I
Speaker 1: will throw this out there that Jonathan Cooper has the
Speaker 1: flexibility to play guard and center, which makes him valuable.
Speaker 1: But Joe Looney can do that too, right, Joe Looney
Speaker 1: is also your jumbo guy goal line fourth. And I
Speaker 1: think Joe Looney's a better player, I believe. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I think that. I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I think that, But I think they
Speaker 1: trust him to wire about Why would you say that,
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you think that? Because they have
Speaker 1: tried everyone, but they've tried to back, they've tried to
Speaker 1: take his job, and they've never given it to Jonathan
Speaker 1: or Joe Looney. They've never said Looney started left guard
Speaker 1: now versatile Derek's like I know, believe me. I've tried
Speaker 1: to tell him. This is I mean, this is at
Speaker 1: Montre Holland field. Cost the situation on a game day,
Speaker 1: I'll go with the versatile guy who can play center.
Speaker 1: But if I have to start, if if Chas gets hurt,
Speaker 1: what's probably will happen. But I mean, if Chaz does
Speaker 1: get hurt in the game and in Cooper has to
Speaker 1: come play next week, I mean, it's not gonna be Looney.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Cooper because they feel like he's better.
Speaker 1: I get all that. I'm just saying, based on what
Speaker 1: I saw during training camp in preseason, I think Joe
Speaker 1: Looting was a better player, just my opinion. See Joe
Speaker 1: Looney play with any starters though, Okay, all right, either way,
Speaker 1: I think I think him yesterday. I've also seen Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cooper play with starters and wasn't completely impressed. I think
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper is probably the guy in sweats. He probably
Speaker 1: it's getting inactive. It's and you know, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: Ron Ron Leary is way too good of a player
Speaker 1: to to be inactive on game days, but he was
Speaker 1: because he didn't do enough to merit a roster spot
Speaker 1: if he wasn't starting. Okay, so we've got six guys
Speaker 1: that we all kind of agree on that they will
Speaker 1: be an actor, Jordan Lewis, Noah Brown, Cooper, Rush, Anthony
Speaker 1: hutchins Um, one of the running backs running back. Okay
Speaker 1: with that, an older running back right, Jonathan Cooper. So
Speaker 1: for the final one, we gotta yeah, we got decide
Speaker 1: it is it Tapper or has it been Wickery? Who's
Speaker 1: more likely to help help you in this game? I'll
Speaker 1: be Tapper if you call the help. I mean on
Speaker 1: how you feel about Tapper. I think about this. I
Speaker 1: think Ben Wickery has a better chance of doing something
Speaker 1: for you exactly. Yeah, think about corners start going down.
Speaker 1: Let's say you lose two corners, and it can happen,
Speaker 1: because I remember the game against the Jets on the
Speaker 1: nine to eleven game didn't but six years ago, twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: I remember Barry Church played corner at some point and
Speaker 1: again because everybody was getting hurt. And if you start
Speaker 1: losing corners, there's not a lot of players who can
Speaker 1: kind of help there. So you got one. You got
Speaker 1: you got a safety that can drop down to corn
Speaker 1: if you need well. Xavier Woods say Davier Woods as well. Right,
Speaker 1: you got a couple, right, you do have a couple, um,
Speaker 1: but you also have a couple for defensive end as well.
Speaker 1: Like if you needed some pass for a shop, you
Speaker 1: could go with Wilber, you could go with the new
Speaker 1: guy Elliott, who that they could rush off the edge.
Speaker 1: I meant to bring that up. That's WoT. I would
Speaker 1: lean towards keep it an extra corner. If that that's
Speaker 1: the case, I lean. I think I played in a
Speaker 1: super Bowl and Tapper I played it at all a
Speaker 1: single game. I think Ben Wickery will be up and yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got guys that can help you sort through this
Speaker 1: D line mess. And like I said the other day,
Speaker 1: oh looked at Tapper's face and I could tell he's
Speaker 1: not playing this weekend. I told you, guys, you know
Speaker 1: you like ESPs not a real thing, you know, right,
Speaker 1: Like you can't just read somebody's mind based on their face.
Speaker 1: M Romo, Can you just admit this Nick place? I
Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen to Romo. Nick has
Speaker 1: been here for But you knew before that Seattle game.
Speaker 1: You didn't said you were ready to see somebody at all.
Speaker 1: First of all, before this place was built, do you remember,
Speaker 1: we were all yes, all out I mean the first
Speaker 1: thing they showed us this place, we had a hard
Speaker 1: hats on and they took us to that group lunch
Speaker 1: or sitting there eating pizza, and the guy was like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you guys here again. And
Speaker 1: we've never went back there, of course. But um, she said,
Speaker 1: I don't know about Tony Roman. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: get hurt. I think he's too fragile and every time
Speaker 1: he gets hit you can't count on him. And we're
Speaker 1: just like this first point she's ever really made, really
Speaker 1: and this was that point where he's healthy. Brow he's
Speaker 1: healthy right now. And now they're looking at me like,
Speaker 1: who is this girl? First of all, you're not even
Speaker 1: from here. Second, well you're a girl. Look at you.
Speaker 1: You just got here. You don't know anything. Oh are you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who are you? I think did she talk? It wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the point that bothered me.
Speaker 1: I think it was more of the fact that you
Speaker 1: were trying to like take his job away while he
Speaker 1: was still healthy. You were like, we need to make
Speaker 1: a change. Aside from that, Aside from that to the next.
Speaker 1: And then after six weeks of dak and now Dak's
Speaker 1: you know, keeps winning and wins, Tony gonna come back.
Speaker 1: And she said, I talk. I saw Tony and he
Speaker 1: didn't look right, like he looks like this is really
Speaker 1: really weighing on him. And I said, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Like I know Tony and I think he's he's really okay.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is really that big a deal.
Speaker 1: Like two days later, he stands up there and he
Speaker 1: reads this letter and he talks about how the NFL
Speaker 1: is a meritocracy, so you have to give me some credit.
Speaker 1: I like, I'm telling you, all right, so Ambar the
Speaker 1: mind reader, No, so sit Taffer, I'm going with it.
Speaker 1: That's what I think too, anyway, So I don't know
Speaker 1: why I'm arguing. Awesome, all right, So let's take our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: some questions about this game. I want these guys to
Speaker 1: tell you, guys, what they think is going to happen.
Speaker 1: I have some questions lined up for them. We'll do
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Speaker 1: think it was three drafts ago. He was a guy
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Speaker 1: scounding reports this year. Hey yeah, man, Shamus Plug. I
Speaker 1: was thinking. I was thinking about, you know, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: core guys on offense. You know your quarterback, you're running back,
Speaker 1: your receiver, tight end, and left tackle. Where are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Mississippi State, Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Tennessee, USC
Speaker 1: you know center? You know you got Notre Dame in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: That look at Kansas City, you know, Utah Toledo. Where
Speaker 1: did where did Tyreek Hill end up? You wound up
Speaker 1: somewhere I've never heard of, although he was in Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: but he went some other places. Went to a juco
Speaker 1: for first artistry. Draft was Central Michigan. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even is he Yeah he's still he's still there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're tied end who's a really good
Speaker 1: player Cincinnati, you know, and and they let go their GM,
Speaker 1: Like he's built a really nice roster and they just
Speaker 1: let him go this last offseason, which is amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they are For years, Kansas City has been a
Speaker 1: team where they don't really have that dynamic player. And
Speaker 1: then when you think about what in the eleventh or
Speaker 1: twelfth pick in the draft, what that could how that
Speaker 1: person could help you. That's why drafting quarterbacks it is
Speaker 1: so tricky. And I always agree with the mindset of
Speaker 1: drafted when you need it for this reason alone, even
Speaker 1: though I know people will disagree with that. And you
Speaker 1: could throw the Packers out there if you want, but
Speaker 1: it's really tough to do that. It's tough discipline to
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback that you don't need right now, because
Speaker 1: if you had the eleventh pick in the draft. Name
Speaker 1: a position that could help you, someone on that line,
Speaker 1: another receiver, maybe another defense safety for them. You know,
Speaker 1: it sucks, but I'm just saying, but there's my homes
Speaker 1: sitting there. You know he's not gonna do anything. And
Speaker 1: Alex Smith's like, all right, hey, draft at my homes.
Speaker 1: I mean he was awesome. You went in well. As
Speaker 1: I said that last night on Twitter, it's like the
Speaker 1: I think the average, the majority of football fans would
Speaker 1: say Kansas City is great, but I don't really take
Speaker 1: them seriously because their quarterback play is not up to
Speaker 1: snuff with like the elite teams in the league. Well,
Speaker 1: if Alex Smith does that, even like he didn't even
Speaker 1: have to do that, for get where he was drafted. Like,
Speaker 1: this guy's got talent. I mean, guy, he hasn't proven
Speaker 1: he's got he's got talent. He's a fine player. But
Speaker 1: I think you know that was like his eighth three
Speaker 1: hundred yard game of his career. Like at this point,
Speaker 1: we know what he is and he's not Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't had he has I don't think he's
Speaker 1: had these kinds of what these kinds of in his career.
Speaker 1: I will be sorry with Alex Smith the fact that
Speaker 1: in eight years in a row, he had eight different
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in eight years, first eight seas, I mean
Speaker 1: think about two and two. I mean one in two years.
Speaker 1: I mean every year you're changing it up. That's that's
Speaker 1: totally fair. And you know he had a he had
Speaker 1: a year in San Francisco where he bawled out like
Speaker 1: he's a good player, but most people don't think of
Speaker 1: him as that dynamic difference making quarterback as a manager.
Speaker 1: If he even plays like that for half of their
Speaker 1: games this year and then just doesn't get in the
Speaker 1: way for the other half, they I mean, sky's the
Speaker 1: limit for them, even if Eric burries out. I mean
Speaker 1: they got enough talent on the rest of that defense
Speaker 1: that pass rush will be yeah, good enough to secondary.
Speaker 1: They were really they were really impressive. Can I throw
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith, way to go, Johnny. Yeah it is a
Speaker 1: nice call. And you know what's funny about that is
Speaker 1: we asked him a year and a half ago, can
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Speaker 1: they let Mackling go Turning training camp, Like that was
Speaker 1: kind of a hint that they felt like they had
Speaker 1: some pretty good players there at the wide receivers, at
Speaker 1: least their skill positions, and certainly last night it looks
Speaker 1: like they do. I went back and I remember a
Speaker 1: conversation with dez Dez and Joseph Randall because there when
Speaker 1: their lockers right next to each other. For no, but
Speaker 1: they hung out a lot in the locker room. Down
Speaker 1: in that corner, Randall had Darren Woodson's hole. That's right.
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe not, But anyways, I remember them down
Speaker 1: there one time talking and they're saying, do you see
Speaker 1: that number twenty four? He's the fastest player in the
Speaker 1: in the college football And I just remember them saying
Speaker 1: number twenty four, number twenty four, And I don't know
Speaker 1: who that was. And then I went and google Tyree
Speaker 1: Hill and realized that that was that player they were
Speaker 1: talking about four or five, six years ago. He didn't
Speaker 1: last very long. It will clomb the state. But no,
Speaker 1: But did you see last night on the broadcast they
Speaker 1: actually showed like they transposed his two hundred times that
Speaker 1: he had in high school over the Olympic finals two
Speaker 1: hundred meter and he was right there in the pack
Speaker 1: with all those guys that this was his high school time,
Speaker 1: and it was right there in the pack with these
Speaker 1: guys that were running in the Olympic finals. A thing
Speaker 1: of course, who's saying Bolt was way ahead everybody else,
Speaker 1: but he was with the pack though, which still says
Speaker 1: that he has world class beat as of high school,
Speaker 1: which who knows what it is now, right. The thing
Speaker 1: that really freaked me out about that was that he
Speaker 1: was in high school during the twenty twelve Olympics, which
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, y'all are older than me, and
Speaker 1: that made me feel old. So yeah, hey, keep living, Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep living. All right, let's get to some of these questions.
Speaker 1: First question I have for you guys. We've already kind
Speaker 1: of established that we all think Johnathan Cooper might be inactive,
Speaker 1: which kind of kills the idea of whether he is
Speaker 1: going to be the starter at left guard. We feel
Speaker 1: like Chas Green's gonna be that guy. But that all
Speaker 1: being said, do you think that's the right decision? Do
Speaker 1: you think Chad's green? What based on what we've seen
Speaker 1: throughout the preseason, based upon the history of Chaz Green's health,
Speaker 1: do you think it's the right decision for Chas Green
Speaker 1: to be your starting left guard over Jonathan Cooper. No,
Speaker 1: I don't, but I mean that's what they're gonna do,
Speaker 1: so I'm you can't really argue that anymore. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that's the from what I've seen and the
Speaker 1: domino effects afterwards, I would not do that because it's
Speaker 1: it's a to me, it's a toss up. I've seen Green,
Speaker 1: you know, play well at times. I've seen Cooper play.
Speaker 1: But Cooper, to me, has been more steadier because he's
Speaker 1: been healthier, so I can trust him more to be there.
Speaker 1: And and I just like Chas Green to be my
Speaker 1: backup left and right tackle more than I like Byron
Speaker 1: Bell to do it. So and then and then I
Speaker 1: don't like shuffle in three or four positions at once.
Speaker 1: So I just think it's it makes more sense to
Speaker 1: go Jonathan Cooper right now and Green it's the backup
Speaker 1: to both spots. That's what I would do. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I agree with him in one sense,
Speaker 1: but I do think this is the best five that
Speaker 1: you can put on the field. I think, if you're
Speaker 1: following that mantra, this is the best option. The problem
Speaker 1: is how long will it last? And I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to that, which it seems like it makes
Speaker 1: sense to hedge your bets and save the very talented
Speaker 1: tackle to be an insurance policy. Not only is a
Speaker 1: swing tackle, but if something happens to Tyrant, or if
Speaker 1: something happens to Cooper or Lyle Collins, whatever. He can
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff for you, But it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to get two worked up about it because
Speaker 1: this is the best possible combination of players. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of when we'll let you answer that before. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tack Day for a second. All right, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh I don't agree that's the right decision at all.
Speaker 1: And going back, sorry, going back to what was it
Speaker 1: the game against the Raiders, the preseason game, me standing
Speaker 1: there on the sideline, just watching him play from that close,
Speaker 1: you know, and seeing how he moves around, and when
Speaker 1: he kind of tripped over and then you kind of
Speaker 1: see him, Um, what is it call again? Kind of
Speaker 1: not being abble to walk too good? Limpin? Yeah, sorry, Limpin,
Speaker 1: he's limping around. I'm like, okay, they need to take him,
Speaker 1: take him out. They left him there and then you
Speaker 1: I think it was Nick that argued that, well, you
Speaker 1: want to see him how he does out there? You
Speaker 1: want to him Yeah, yeah, not just all players in preseason,
Speaker 1: but know him him. But after seeing all that, I mean,
Speaker 1: I still don't know why they're so stuck with Chas Green.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not good. I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to make Jonathan Cooper your starter and not rely on
Speaker 1: Chas Green and just not kind of have them rotating around.
Speaker 1: Just give it to Cooper to begin with. We know
Speaker 1: that Chad's Green will possibly get hurt, so just have
Speaker 1: him as a backup, all right. I just feel like
Speaker 1: that Chaz Green, because he's a third round pick, I
Speaker 1: think that we've put him in this category like, well,
Speaker 1: he's a talent. From a talent standpoint that he is.
Speaker 1: You know, you could you call him a top one
Speaker 1: hundred pick all the time. He is, okay, But why
Speaker 1: don't you say Jonathan Cooper's a top seven pick? Because
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper has a much longer career history of not
Speaker 1: living up to that pick. And honestly, much like Chaz Green,
Speaker 1: it's probably not his fault, right, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: anybody that's watched him will tell you that he doesn't
Speaker 1: look like the same player. I think he fractured his
Speaker 1: fibula or something in his leg when he was with Arizona.
Speaker 1: And he's been with four other teams or three. He's
Speaker 1: been with Cleveland and New England and now here, so
Speaker 1: he's been with four teams total. He hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to recapture that for him, that was five years ago,
Speaker 1: so he's got a long track record of not living
Speaker 1: up to that, whereas again Green's just getting there. Green
Speaker 1: still working on it. And I went off, I went
Speaker 1: off on this rand in training camp, like I'm I
Speaker 1: just I'm not gonna dog a guy and act like
Speaker 1: he's a bad player because he gets hurt. That's it's
Speaker 1: an incredibly physical game. Stuff like that happens again. I mean,
Speaker 1: how front and I know what you're about to say,
Speaker 1: but how frustrating were the first three or four years
Speaker 1: of Sean Lee's career. It was the same thing. And
Speaker 1: I don't know that Chaz Green is as good a
Speaker 1: player as Sean Lee wound up becoming. But I think
Speaker 1: it's a really talented guy. He's powerful, he's agile. Honestly
Speaker 1: think he looks a little bit better at tackle than
Speaker 1: he does it guard. But I think he's a better
Speaker 1: player than Jonathan Cooper. If he can stay healthy, then
Speaker 1: I think that will bear out over time. And they're
Speaker 1: they're clearly willing to take that gamble, and so I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lose a lot of sleep about it. We'll
Speaker 1: see if what I do like about him is that
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about Travis Frederick, what's the
Speaker 1: one thing that everyone always says, you know about his game,
Speaker 1: is that just how smart he is, just just just
Speaker 1: how you know, he can see a lot of things.
Speaker 1: Talking to Chads Green yesterday, he's pretty smart too, Like
Speaker 1: he was talking about a lot of things about you know,
Speaker 1: just from from the call standpoints, the differences there, from
Speaker 1: the help. Who's got the help, he said working with
Speaker 1: Travis Fredericks. So I think that he'll he'll be fine there.
Speaker 1: Playing between Tyrn Smith and Travis Frederick doesn't get much.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say easier, but but you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: you can lean on. There's not two two players you
Speaker 1: can lean left and right better in the NFL than
Speaker 1: these two guys right there. I'll go. I'll go as
Speaker 1: far as to say this, if he stays healthy, I
Speaker 1: don't see them going away from him because he's not
Speaker 1: playing up to snuff. Like they're not gonna He's not
Speaker 1: gonna lose his job because he's not playing well. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's worse than than Jonathan Cooper. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: and but I don't know if that can make the
Speaker 1: same claim on the other side, either. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's better than Jonathan Cooper. I
Speaker 1: think they're about the same. Going back to what Nick
Speaker 1: was saying earlier, they at least what we've seen this
Speaker 1: year at Zim playing guard, I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: think Chad is a better tackle than he as a guard.
Speaker 1: But what we've seen basically between the two of them
Speaker 1: at guard when they've played during training camp and during
Speaker 1: the preseason, I think they've been comparable. I don't think
Speaker 1: one is stood out from the other. I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: I'll ask all y'all the same question quickly. I know
Speaker 1: you gotta move on knowing what we what we know. Now,
Speaker 1: let's go back to the first OTA practice in May,
Speaker 1: and you're lining up the offensive line from left or right?
Speaker 1: How would you line them up? I in in my world,
Speaker 1: I'd I'd probably I'd swap Chads and Lyle and put
Speaker 1: Lyle at guard and Chads at tackle. I still would not.
Speaker 1: I still keep it the way it is because I
Speaker 1: get their thought process is Lyle, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to learn it, but I think his ceiling is
Speaker 1: much higher, and I think having the stability at tackle
Speaker 1: is way more important than having stability at guard. Plug
Speaker 1: and play at guard is a lot easier than the
Speaker 1: right tackle who now is has a really good pass
Speaker 1: rusher screaming around the edge to get to your quarter.
Speaker 1: I'd agree with that. Going back there, Huh, My thoughts
Speaker 1: have changed now back there, I would just be like,
Speaker 1: get another play, like you find somebody. My main what
Speaker 1: I really want to do is sick will McClay on
Speaker 1: this draft class and find another guard and then attack
Speaker 1: this again next year. Yeah that's yeah. But since we're
Speaker 1: here now and that's not the case, like I was
Speaker 1: saying yesterday, I think switching them just because Lyle, I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not feeling too comfortable with what he's doing
Speaker 1: right now. But just how you pointed out, you know,
Speaker 1: just give him some time and he'll be good. And
Speaker 1: I have faith in him. I know he will be
Speaker 1: good here. He's a good player. But I think maybe
Speaker 1: just keeping him at guard, not Lyle chas Green, keeping
Speaker 1: him a guard maybe helps injury wise, to not have
Speaker 1: him get injured as much as I would think being
Speaker 1: at tackle. I don't know. I mean, there seems like
Speaker 1: there's more stuff going on inside at more congestion in there,
Speaker 1: a lot more legs that can get tangled and feet
Speaker 1: that can be you know, and I don't know. I
Speaker 1: see him being safer eut guard, but he's better at talk.
Speaker 1: So I'll say this to that point, I think, actually
Speaker 1: I will agree with you. When you're coming off an injury,
Speaker 1: especially an ankle injury, and having to stay inside, I
Speaker 1: think it's probably better for him rehabbing an injury to
Speaker 1: play guard. I think if you're just talking about exposed
Speaker 1: to injuries, you know, you might be more exposed to
Speaker 1: have an injury from the inside. But if you're coming
Speaker 1: back from something, you don't need to be as agile,
Speaker 1: I would think maybe guard. All right, So we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our final break when we come back from break.
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Speaker 1: can do on the ground. We'll do that when we
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Speaker 1: in that second game against the Giants, Zeke ran for
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven yards on twenty four carries. It
Speaker 1: was a by all counts a good running day, Cowboys
Speaker 1: still didn't have enough to win the game. They lose
Speaker 1: ten to seven. So it's Tomorrow's I mean, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: is Sunday's game. Do you think because of that, and
Speaker 1: because of how good this defense is, specifically upfront, do
Speaker 1: you think this game is going to be more about
Speaker 1: the ability to be able to throw the ball and
Speaker 1: particularly be able to connect down field, then it will
Speaker 1: be about being able to run the ball. Yes, I'll
Speaker 1: say no, this is sorry. This is a Dak game.
Speaker 1: That's the metaphor I used all last year is that
Speaker 1: Zeke is the engine that makes everything hum. Dak is
Speaker 1: the guy driving the car. I mean, you can drive,
Speaker 1: you can go one hundred miles an hour, but if
Speaker 1: you run into a brick wall, the car's not gonna
Speaker 1: go anywhere. And that and when you play a defense
Speaker 1: this good, Zeke is going to do his thing and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. He'll I mean, if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, he'll probably get a hundred yards or flirt
Speaker 1: with it. But to beat a defense like this, your
Speaker 1: quarterback has to make plays. And so that you know
Speaker 1: this is probably Seattle's gonna be like that Kansas City's
Speaker 1: probably gonna be like that based on what we saw
Speaker 1: last night, for four or five times this year, they're
Speaker 1: gonna play an opponent with a defense good enough to
Speaker 1: wear Zeke isn't gonna be enough and so, like I said,
Speaker 1: he'll be good, but it's you know, there's between five
Speaker 1: and ten plays that dak has to make if they're
Speaker 1: gonna win. I think it's more on him in my opinion. No,
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. And just to take your analogy,
Speaker 1: I mean, the car doesn't even go from you know,
Speaker 1: here to there without the engine. I mean, the engine
Speaker 1: is the engine for a reason. So I mean you
Speaker 1: could switch out drivers. And I'm not saying that that
Speaker 1: dak Is doesn't have a big role. He certainly does,
Speaker 1: and how he handles the how the Giants stop the
Speaker 1: running game will ultimately, you know, affect what the Cowboys do.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like they have to stick with
Speaker 1: what they do. They built this team, they built the
Speaker 1: offensive line, they built a running game to be this
Speaker 1: type of team, and they have to kind of stick
Speaker 1: with it. So even if it doesn't work well early on,
Speaker 1: you have to just keep pounding. You can't go away
Speaker 1: from the game. Plan and put it on the Dak.
Speaker 1: And I think, but do you want to do the
Speaker 1: same thing you did last year which clearly didn't work. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll stick with it, stay stay in that same course.
Speaker 1: That's the way. That's the way these games are. That's
Speaker 1: the way that Cowboys Giants game is. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be close down to the end. The defense is
Speaker 1: going to play well, their offense plays well. But I
Speaker 1: mean I'm saying that it's still it's not DA doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be doing a whole lot of different things.
Speaker 1: Let me let me rephrase so I'm not confused. I'm
Speaker 1: not calling for Dak to throw the ball fifty times
Speaker 1: the same you do the same thing. Lean on Zeke.
Speaker 1: He is the engine of this offense. But they're not
Speaker 1: gonna win unless Dak plays great. That's basically my point.
Speaker 1: And playing he didn't play great great in that game
Speaker 1: was that was his worst first game as a pro
Speaker 1: was the second game against the Giants, and then his
Speaker 1: first game against the Giants was probably his second worst. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna cut it, not against the defense like this, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that other than you know, maybe one
Speaker 1: or two teams and we won't. We don't need to
Speaker 1: highlight them because they haven't played. We don't know who's
Speaker 1: good you know yet. But I think you can say
Speaker 1: that same sentence on a Friday before every single game
Speaker 1: you play that if Dak doesn't play well, they're probably
Speaker 1: not gonna win well. I think there's a there's a
Speaker 1: distinction here between playing well, which I think he did
Speaker 1: for the majority of the year last year, there were
Speaker 1: some games when he played out of his mind, when
Speaker 1: he had a high completion percentage, when he had some
Speaker 1: big throws throughout it in parts of the game that were,
Speaker 1: you know, throws that were tough to make that he made,
Speaker 1: Like those are the kinds of things I think David
Speaker 1: sings he's gonna have to make. This defense is good
Speaker 1: enough where he's gonna have to make some really tough throws,
Speaker 1: and those tough throws will be what actually ends up
Speaker 1: winning this game for He's he's gonna have to hit
Speaker 1: some chunk plays and necked through the air on some
Speaker 1: third and longs and be a bigger part of the
Speaker 1: reason why the chains are moving than Zeke. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, off the top of my head, you're right,
Speaker 1: we don't know who's gonna be good, Who's gonna be bad?
Speaker 1: But if you're playing a Cleveland Desk team, you can
Speaker 1: win that game just by asking your quarterback to not
Speaker 1: get in the way. Yeah, I don't. That's not even
Speaker 1: know what the argument is. I really don't even know
Speaker 1: what we're arguing. I think what I'm just saying is,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if this changes anything from
Speaker 1: last year. I just think you still you go into it,
Speaker 1: you still play, you lean on the running game. Deak's
Speaker 1: gonna have to make plays. I don't. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if why are I don't even know if we're
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing or not. This is I agree
Speaker 1: Dak does have to play well to win the game.
Speaker 1: I think that seems to play better than well. But
Speaker 1: Zeke's not gonna have a great, wonderful game. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna produce many yards. I know you disagreeing, Nick,
Speaker 1: But the way I see it, I hope so. The
Speaker 1: way I see it's like he won't be very productive.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think that having him
Speaker 1: there will definitely give Dak Prescott's some comfortness that he
Speaker 1: just has when he has to seek there. Although Dad
Speaker 1: is like one of the most confident guys on Earth.
Speaker 1: But I think just having his presence there, not so
Speaker 1: much his game. I think that's gonna be the key
Speaker 1: for this game. I mean, I believe that the Giants
Speaker 1: did a nice job of limiting Zeke. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven yards. But the first two games combined,
Speaker 1: they did a good job against him. If you take
Speaker 1: out the Philly game, which at the end of the
Speaker 1: season when they weren't playing there are guys, the Giants
Speaker 1: stopped the cowboy who's there are two games against the
Speaker 1: Giants were the lowest rushing outputs of the entire season
Speaker 1: those two games. So they did a nice job. And
Speaker 1: I think that there's the domino. I think that Dad
Speaker 1: didn't play well because of that. I mean, they stopped
Speaker 1: the running game. So then then it was I forced
Speaker 1: it on a good point. If more people, more, if
Speaker 1: more teams could stop the running game like that like
Speaker 1: they did last year. I don't think Dak has a
Speaker 1: great season, you know, if they stopped the running game.
Speaker 1: So which I guess that's kind of the point I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make is it's on him, Okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be more of the same. I think
Speaker 1: Zeke will be fine, but he's not gonna I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna touch two hundred all purpose yards. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be on Dak to make this work,
Speaker 1: knowing that maybe they're not getting six yards per carry.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on. Let's do a little
Speaker 1: ce or no or what do you have for us?
Speaker 1: All right, you guys ready, Nick, ready, don't mess this off?
Speaker 1: Come on? Okay, she directed that a. Did Cowboys score
Speaker 1: first on the game? See? See this one goes to
Speaker 1: see you don't really have the answer. Sek will have
Speaker 1: a hundred yards or more? See rushing or all purpose
Speaker 1: see no rushing from the fans. See no, this will
Speaker 1: be Kellen Moore's last year. Wow, took it there. That
Speaker 1: was first. Um see wait wait as a quarterback, that
Speaker 1: is a good question. That's a good clarification question. As quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's got a he's got a medium polo just hanging
Speaker 1: with absolutely same one I got on Yeah, quarterback. See
Speaker 1: see last year, Jeff Heath doesn't make it through the year,
Speaker 1: I'll just say that. Wow, okay, okay, Jeff Heath becomes
Speaker 1: everything they hope for. In Matt Johnson. Wow, throwback, that's
Speaker 1: a loaded question. I mean, just have a chance to
Speaker 1: trash two guys, right? Everything they hope for? No, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Jeff Heath will be fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be the next you know. I
Speaker 1: don't know the process and how you came with that
Speaker 1: that question. But Jeff Heath has already played a game, yeah,
Speaker 1: because so I don't know how you can. He's already surpassed.
Speaker 1: I think I think that the spirit of the question
Speaker 1: is the unreal levels of hype surrounding match. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: they hope it could be? Yeah? I think so. Do
Speaker 1: they hope he can be a competent starting safety, because
Speaker 1: then in that case, sure if they hope he can
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. No, I'm gonna say no
Speaker 1: for now because I gotta see it to believe it.
Speaker 1: I haven't, and that's not that's not Jeff's fault. I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen that consistently. He hasn't been placed in
Speaker 1: that kind of situation to have to do it consistently,
Speaker 1: and so I haven't seen it. So I don't know
Speaker 1: that I'd be willing to go out on a limb
Speaker 1: and say, I'm he's going to be everything they want
Speaker 1: in a safety. I'm not going into this season thinking
Speaker 1: they're set. Yeah, right, you know which, And he could
Speaker 1: change my mind. He could get in here and play
Speaker 1: really really well and then hey we're off and running.
Speaker 1: But right as of right now, I mean, it's the
Speaker 1: same kind of option. It's the same way I look
Speaker 1: at Nolan Carroll like, yeah, I don't think right now
Speaker 1: I'm willing to say Nolan Carroll is going to be
Speaker 1: better than in a car. So we'll just have to
Speaker 1: see if he is great if he's not. Though, I
Speaker 1: think I've seen enough that I think it can go
Speaker 1: either way. There's not a ton of stories in the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and in the league where the guys plays four
Speaker 1: years as a as a backup role player, then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's a starter and he's really good.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the point you see it. These guys
Speaker 1: will flash it a little bit earlier and then they start.
Speaker 1: They don't wait to that point in their career just
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot. Romo is one example. They did
Speaker 1: have some of those players for a while, you know,
Speaker 1: the Doug Freeze, the Miles Austin's, but I don't even
Speaker 1: know if they lasted that long as as he did.
Speaker 1: The Marcus Lawrence will have six to eight sacks this
Speaker 1: year see see Yeah State. See Dak will have more
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns than he did last year. How many do
Speaker 1: you have last year? Six? Five or six? See see.
Speaker 1: I think that two point conversion against Green Bay, I
Speaker 1: think that's something best play ever it is, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a play that you'll see a lot with
Speaker 1: Switzer with the coal those guys spread out. No back
Speaker 1: helps the red zone offense so much. Having a quarterback
Speaker 1: that can that can force you to pay attention to
Speaker 1: him helps It opens up so much more over the
Speaker 1: middle for you to be able to take advantage of
Speaker 1: what Terrence Williams does well going across the middle, take
Speaker 1: advantage of Jason Witton in the middle of the field. Like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you can do because
Speaker 1: defenses have to pay attention to the quarterback being able
Speaker 1: to run fourth and goal from the one. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like him to get that one yard as much
Speaker 1: as I like giving it back to Zeke lett him.
Speaker 1: I mean just I would never I would never kick
Speaker 1: from inside to five if I were this team inside
Speaker 1: the five, So if you got fourth and five, I'm
Speaker 1: going I mean, really, I'm all the way in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, if my defense was a little
Speaker 1: bit better, and maybe they will be, we'll see once
Speaker 1: we get into the season. But if my defense was
Speaker 1: a little bit better, I might agree with you. If
Speaker 1: the defense is not better than last year, I don't
Speaker 1: think i'd do that well, but what I would? You
Speaker 1: know how I always say this may when you get
Speaker 1: down there, first and goal from the seven or whatever,
Speaker 1: make up your mind right then what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Make up your mind if this is four down, don't
Speaker 1: sit there and wait till third down, because first down,
Speaker 1: second down, I mean, just just keep running if you
Speaker 1: And if you remember in the opener last year, that
Speaker 1: was the big they lost that game because they couldn't
Speaker 1: convert in the red zone. I mean they went down
Speaker 1: there like five times easily drop a pass like over
Speaker 1: the middle. I think maybe it was tipped, but yes,
Speaker 1: I mean they are no. I think it was just
Speaker 1: an outright drop. The characteristic they didn't. They kicked field
Speaker 1: goals on four of their five trips down there. I
Speaker 1: mean they finished with nineteen points that's that's not gonna
Speaker 1: cut it. Beasley's had a couple when these last two openers,
Speaker 1: he dropped one down there inside the five, probably could
Speaker 1: have scored. And then he've also fumbled in the year
Speaker 1: before with Chromartys ran it back for a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: what you then? Yeah, when I stopped talking, I'll be done.
Speaker 1: I gotta look. Okay, last one, I see Elliott suspension
Speaker 1: Hill we would see another year like twenty fourteen Fords Bryant.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that question. Key me, please, if Zeke
Speaker 1: z is suspended, If Zeke is suspended, you'll see Dez
Speaker 1: have sixteen touchdowns. Got okay? Um, I don't even known.
Speaker 1: I don't really think that that matters whether Zeke's there
Speaker 1: or not. I mean the point is, I think the
Speaker 1: point is if Zeke, Yeah, they had the NFL Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the year. They ran for two thousand yards. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a better shot to do that
Speaker 1: this year because he's on the same page with Dak
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And if you remember Dak, Dez
Speaker 1: never comes close to the Antonio Browns of the world
Speaker 1: in terms of catches, but he's that guy that when
Speaker 1: you get inside the red zone, you look to throw
Speaker 1: it up to him. I don't I'd be surprised if
Speaker 1: he sniffs that type of touchdown total, just because you
Speaker 1: will have the running game to lean on and you
Speaker 1: got the Beasley's of the world. I'd I think this
Speaker 1: will be his best season since twenty fourteen, easily, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Healthy sixteen touchdowns is unreal for a receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say this, though, I hope this year they
Speaker 1: actually make a more concertative effort to get him involved
Speaker 1: earlier in games, because I think there are times in
Speaker 1: games where he kind of gets lost. And to me,
Speaker 1: if you if you introduce him early in games, I
Speaker 1: think it gives the defense a moment of pause once
Speaker 1: it gets to point where it's, you know, second quarter,
Speaker 1: he still hasn't sniffed the ball. I just don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're taking advantage of that weapon enough that
Speaker 1: you talked about Antonio Brown like they come out of
Speaker 1: media and they're going to their guys. You're gonna know
Speaker 1: which guys are gonna be there guys. But they got
Speaker 1: enough of them, and the Cowboys have enough of them
Speaker 1: to where even if you established that, Okay, if you
Speaker 1: want to start. Now it's trying to take him away.
Speaker 1: Then we've got a lot of other guys that can
Speaker 1: beat up on you. But I would establish Dez early
Speaker 1: and off in every game. Absolutely. I don't get some
Speaker 1: routes like slants and stuff like that that you feel
Speaker 1: pretty high, pretty feel pretty good there you're gonna get
Speaker 1: completions out of. And I would do that every game.
Speaker 1: Start the game. All right, let's let's let's get to
Speaker 1: the crazy predict predictions. Let's start first with Amber. Crazy prediction.
Speaker 1: Crazy prediction. Don't have to give a score too, No,
Speaker 1: And you know, I probably should have started with Nick
Speaker 1: so that you can see how this works. Like the
Speaker 1: crazy prediction is, this is something that's a little bit
Speaker 1: this is something that's a little bit outside the realm
Speaker 1: of what's blocked PUNTI yeah, and we got pretty elaborate
Speaker 1: with him last year. Don't know how crazy. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think that, um, I've said it all week. I
Speaker 1: do think that kind of a take that moment that
Speaker 1: I just think Zeke's gonna have with all this stuff
Speaker 1: going on, and we don't really know, we haven't really
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, what could happen today that will
Speaker 1: there should be some news regarding Zeke, but I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play either way. I think he'll have I
Speaker 1: think he'll play really well. And uh, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna get two hundred all purpose yards. I don't know
Speaker 1: where that's gonna come. I'm from. It would probably be
Speaker 1: like a one twenty eighty type of thing. Okay, running Dave.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is bold enough, but whatever, Um,
Speaker 1: as much as we criticize him, I just feel like
Speaker 1: home game, leaky offensive line. Eli's got a pension for
Speaker 1: making those types of plays. I not only think the
Speaker 1: defense is going to get some takeaways, I think they'll
Speaker 1: score one too, which they don't do very often. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble thinking I'm gonna do it. That's what
Speaker 1: you gotta get. Let's just get that's that's a crazy
Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns good. Maybe in your written gut feeling, maybe
Speaker 1: you can throw a name outby oh why not? Why
Speaker 1: the hell not? You know? Might be an act of that. Well,
Speaker 1: and I'll be wrong early whatever, Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is crazy now or not. Local local Cowboys
Speaker 1: get four sacks Okay, Yeah. Ellie Collins tack with Charlton,
Speaker 1: aiming them one each. If Taco gets a sack, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get his first sack. I'm gonna so hard on Twitter,
Speaker 1: on all my Taco haters. I'm gonna have some emojis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: emoji's out the wazoo. Taco makes his first for sac
Speaker 1: all right, I was stuck on the Taco t my
Speaker 1: my crazy prediction actually rides along with Dave. I'll give
Speaker 1: you a name. I think it's gonna be a sack
Speaker 1: fumble caused by Orlando Scandrick coming off the edge. And
Speaker 1: is that that's not even lots smart based that's what
Speaker 1: we've seen a lot let's and here's the other kicker,
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna have a really good game. He's also
Speaker 1: gonna get a pick this game. Dam think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good game for Orlando. Zack fumble and and
Speaker 1: a pick. How How much would he enjoy that postgame
Speaker 1: press CONTI love it. He'd be standing there waiting waiting
Speaker 1: for the media, started to go to the podium. Where's
Speaker 1: the podium? Here we go, He's due for a game.
Speaker 1: Imagine him standing at his locker like this, just waiting
Speaker 1: for the media. All right now, let's get some predictions.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win this game? Cowboys Cowboys? That Like, on
Speaker 1: was it Tuesday? We were talking about left guard or set. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a close one, but maybe twenty seven
Speaker 1: twenty four four? All right, how boys, Dave. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't see a reason not to pick the Cowboys. I
Speaker 1: think they have the better offense, they have the home
Speaker 1: field advantage. I don't have a ton of confidence in
Speaker 1: the defense as it sits right now, but Rod Marinelli
Speaker 1: loves to say, you know, we have to play better
Speaker 1: than their defense. I think as good as the Cowboys
Speaker 1: offense has looked over the last month, even knowing it's
Speaker 1: the Giants, and I mean, it's not gonna be easy,
Speaker 1: but I think they can find a way to win this.
Speaker 1: And I'll say twenty four twenty okay, Um, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one of those, um those games.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas will win it. Twenty four twenty two, Okay,
Speaker 1: think I think somebody getting the safety. No, No, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be someone's gonna be going for two to win
Speaker 1: to tie the game, and they'll stop them. You know
Speaker 1: that two point defense has been really good. Yeah, it has.
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys win as well, but I think they
Speaker 1: win a very very close game, same as it was
Speaker 1: last year. I think these teams are so evenly matched,
Speaker 1: and I think they have um they know each other
Speaker 1: so well. I don't think it'll be a blow away.
Speaker 1: I don't think it. Think it's gonna be really close.
Speaker 1: I think the end score is gonna be seventeen sixteen.
Speaker 1: Cowboys win at home. It hasn't been a blowout since
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven finale. But it just it just varies
Speaker 1: in how many points. Like there's somebody had the Cowboys
Speaker 1: winning by what three or four? I was winning by three, three,
Speaker 1: two one one. Here we go, all right, you gotta
Speaker 1: check out the game Sunday. We'll be back on Monday.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what went right and what went wrong
Speaker 1: till then. For Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I
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