1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Come back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We are going to 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: be joined on the ground in Minneapolis momentarily by Brecca Stole, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: who is there covering the protests in Minneapolis. 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: But first let me let you know that. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: There is now a video of the ICE officer who 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: engaged in the shooting, of his perspective immediately before the 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: shooting took place, that is going to soon be everywhere. 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: It has been shared by a group called Alpha News. 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: I believe it makes it quite clear that she was 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: there to be an antagonist, that she was not somehow, 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: as they have suggested, a just a mom who showed 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: up at the event. She was there parked trying to 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: obstruct the ICE agents from doing their job, and Buck 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: she drove. She was obstructing, which is why actually circled 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the car. She thought that she had a right, which 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: she did not. And it is a violation of law 18 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: to get in the middle of an ICE operation and stop. 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: This is like that judge that helped the illegal if 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: you aid ICE in the court in Milwaukee. If I 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: remember Hannah Dugan, I think something like that, you do 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: not have the right to do this. She was in 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: the wrong and Clay, I watched the video. It's a 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: clean shoot. Sorry, this woman lost her life. It's a 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: clean shoot. And I've worked at a law enforcement agency. 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: I've sat through all the training. The guy did nothing wrong. 27 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Breca Stole joins us. Now. Breca, you've been doing great 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: work on the ground in Minneapolis for the Daily Wire, 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: and we appreciate you making the time to join us 30 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: now from Minneapolis. Have you seen that new video yet? 31 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: To what extent in your experience have many of the 32 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: protesters there been looking at these videos? What is the 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: on the ground reaction? And again the breaking news of 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: this video that has just been released that appears to 35 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: be the ice officer's perspective at the time of the shooting. 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: I claim buck great to be with you guys, but 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: so I just saw the video. I didn't see or 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: I didn't cut and hear all the audio. But I 39 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: saw her friend, you know, go filming everything, and on 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: the ground there is a little bit of a delayed reaction. 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: I think the protesters, you know, they're actively screaming at 42 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: Ice field officers. That looks like in law enforcement, and 43 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: so they are occupied through their protesting activities. I'm sure 44 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: information about this will get out soon, but they are 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: very firm in their beliefs that I did something wrong 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: and that they reacted. They continue to say she was murdered, 47 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 3: and I don't think they're willing to listen to really 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: any evidence or anything that another side or person has 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: to deliver. 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: And it's now I think going to go to a 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 4: whole new level of this video that we were just discussing. 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 4: And what's your sense, Breca for how this is going 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 4: to weigh into the conversation. 54 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's really interesting because it does show, 55 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: like you said, she she was filming this, Like I 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: think this really was for TikTok. I think this is 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: just part of their movement, trying to get word out that, 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: you know, just kind of defend their side. 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: They wanted to distract Ice. 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: And it's so interesting to me that you come into 61 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: the situation and someone's job in law enforcement and you 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: just think you're so entitled to be there and filming everything, 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: because at the reality, like this is a difficult job 64 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: and for these law enforcements who take their job very 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: seriously to have to deal with someone, you know, tiktoking 66 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: and trying to make a viral video out of this 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: would be incredibly distracting, and I just think it's it's dangerous, 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: first of all, and so it's just interesting to see 69 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: that these people do it. And it's honestly, I think 70 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: the protesters coming out that I've seen on the street 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: are doing the same thing. Like they're distracting law enforcements 72 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: from guarding the ice Field facility because you know, they 73 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: know they have to come out there because otherwise these 74 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: protesters are going to be at their doors. And so 75 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: what you have is them spending all day in a 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: back and force them, egging them on, screaming terrible insults 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: at them. And it's like you are distracting these people 78 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 3: from doing their jobs over and over again. And it's 79 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: really interesting to see it when we know, like when 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: stuff happens and problems occur, you call nine one one, 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: and when something bad is happening, you rely on these 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: police officers. You rely on law enforcement and come and 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: save the day. 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: We're talking to Brekastole. She is on the ground. 85 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: We played earlier a clip of you interviewing a woman 86 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: who talked about her white tears and how she didn't 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: even feel like she was maybe even justified in being 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: there because she was not as oppressed as black and 89 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: brown people. Do you think she's representative of the average 90 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 1: protester that you are seeing? And I mean, in many ways, 91 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: how did you keep a straight face? I thought you 92 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: did a really good interviewing her, and it's obviously gone 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: very viral. But do you think that she is representative 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: of the average worldview of people that are protesting in 95 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Minneapolis right now? 96 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so there's three types of protesters that I'm seeing 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: that I feel like groups. You can categorize them in brainwashed, scary, 98 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 3: and paid. 99 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: I'll start with brainwashed first, which is the woman I 100 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 5: talked to. 101 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 3: So when I'm talking to her, she comes up to 102 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: me and she was crying, and I have that before 103 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: in the video, but she's upset, and so I just 104 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: let her talk. And obviously, you know, I feel bad 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: for this woman. 106 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 5: She's obviously very. 107 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: Upset, and so talking to her, I think she's about 108 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: to tell me she feels it's wrong for her to 109 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: be here because it's an eerie, solemn feeling. That's the 110 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: direction I thought she was going into. And she then 111 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: tells me it's actually because she's a white woman, and 112 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, in an interview, you're always trying to be respectful, 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: You're always just trying to listen to what people say. 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 5: And I was like, this woman is upset, and she 115 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: clearly believes this. 116 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: She has been brainwashed to think that she's not be 117 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: at the scene of another white woman's death because she's white. 118 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 3: And to say that white tears are not always necessary 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 3: and helpful was just very odd to me. And so 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 3: you know what, you just keep the straight face, you 121 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: keep listening, and you're just trying to understand why she 122 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: thinks this and where she's coming from. And then the 123 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: other two types of protesters I'm seeing are scary, like 124 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: I said, and make these are the ones to yell 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 3: these insults at law enforcement where it's like they're saying, 126 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: you guys are terrorists, go kill yourself. 127 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 5: You guys are Nazis. 128 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: And so it's just like you put those in a 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: whole other category and you're like, Okay, these people have 130 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: so much anger, and this is the potential where you 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: might see something like the George Floyd riots, when people 132 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: get so angry they get destructive. So that's the group 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: where I would see if something bad happens, like potentially 134 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: on Saturday, you might start seeing that from that group 135 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: of protesters. The third one, I say paid. I heard 136 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: a woman yesterday talk about how we hit the goal 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: time and could you know, and I think she thought 138 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: I was part of the group, and I said, what 139 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: do you mean the full time and she said, oh, 140 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: we're good, we don't need to be here anymore. And 141 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: so I grouped that into the potentially paid, potentially organized. 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: And those are you see protesters hurling out insults like 143 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: you know, to law enforcement as I hope your hotel 144 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: has bed bugs, and I'm like, okay, just quite a 145 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: spectrum of people we got here on the ground. 146 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: Bed bugs. That's really that's really tough. Yeah, that's me. 147 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: I say. 148 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: So you've been able to talk, you've been able to 149 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: talk to someone them. By the way, good on you 150 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: for the bravery for dealing with some of these these maniacs. 151 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 4: And please, you know, keep your head on a swivel. 152 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: My friend Andy No has been dealing with lunatic protesters 153 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: for many, many years, and they are lunatics and they 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: are dangerous sometimes, so please make sure that you're using 155 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 4: best practices out there on the street. To keep yourself 156 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: as safe as you can under the circumstances. Is it 157 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: your sense that this is dying down or are they 158 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: just getting for the weekend because it is called up 159 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: there in Minneapolis in the middle of January m so. 160 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: It's freezing, and it's like yesterday we saw five thousand 161 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: and six thousand protesters, you know, marching for hours when 162 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: it's fleeting, and so that's interesting. And then today I 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: have notice it is quieter today, and I think that's 164 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: because Tim Waltz. 165 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 5: Put out that video which he called for a. 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: Moment of silence for Renee Good at ten am and 167 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: just hoping to get people like time. So I think 168 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: the protesters are taking into that. There's three main places 169 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: where they're gathering. That's the scene of Renee's death, the 170 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: ice Field office, and then where they organized that protest 171 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: in like this intersection downtown, and all of those scenes 172 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 3: have been much quieter today. And I keep hearing last 173 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: night at the visual scene they were staying on Saturday, 174 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: we're gonna come out here, and so I think they're 175 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: using this as kind of a day to recoup, and 176 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: then they're coming back stronger than ever on Saturday. And 177 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: interesting to see, because I talked to people on the 178 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: street and I said, and they were telling me they 179 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: think the violence from George Floyd reflected bad on the 180 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter movement, and so they're trying to use 181 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: extra precaution because they don't want violence from this movement 182 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 3: to distract how they feel about ice. 183 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: And so that's what they're worried about. 184 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: And they keep saying they don't want Donald Trump to 185 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: make an example out of Minneapolis. So I think that 186 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: is the main reason for why so far there hasn't 187 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: been much destruction. 188 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: We're talking to breakast stole of the Daily Wire you 189 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: had it. Also, you've done a really good job on 190 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: the ground. I've seen several of your videos going viral. 191 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: And McDonald's in the area put up a sign that 192 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: said they would not allow ice workers to come in 193 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: and buy sandwiches, get hamburgers, whatnot. Also we had the 194 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: hotel that said we're not going to allow people to 195 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: stay there. I tell us what you found with McDonald's 196 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: and the hotel and what whther you think that might 197 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: be indicative. We talked about this on the show. Somewhat 198 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: of a continued shift in the way that big business 199 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: is responding after the bud light incident. It seems like 200 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: anytime one of these stories go viral, we get an 201 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: immediate response. But for real, who didn't see what happened 202 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: with McDonald's. Tell us what you found there. 203 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: So we were taking a bathroom break from interviewing people 204 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: on the street and we go into McDonald's and right 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: on the door says a sign that says ice is 206 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: not allowed here. And so when we interviewed the security 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: guard inside and we're like, how and also interesting that 208 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: the McDonald's had a security guard. He just talked about 209 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: how bad the area is and how McDonald has hired him. 210 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: He also was about to take our order, so that 211 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: was already interesting. But the security guard said he wasn't 212 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: sure how the sign got there, but he said it 213 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: was private property, and that's what the business decided. Now, 214 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 3: when you actually think about what probably happened here is 215 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: you think about McDonald's and they you know, they've just 216 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: let Trump be a fry cook during his campaign for 217 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: their team, so you know that they did not want 218 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: they did not want to say ice was not allowed 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: into their office. And I can tell by their quickness 220 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: to respond to me for comments when they said this 221 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: was not authorized by corporate and so what has probably 222 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: happened here is it's a franchisee owner who maybe wasn't him, 223 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: probably a manager, could even be a woke employee at 224 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 3: the McDonald's who put that sign on the door. And 225 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: you see McDonald's actively through their comment and their quickness 226 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: to give it to me saying that this is not 227 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: okay and obviously ice would be allowed in our stores. 228 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: Thank you for the work you're doing, Breca, appreciate it. 229 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: Like I said, stay safe and the Lennone throw any 230 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: snowballs at. 231 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: You and talk to you against it and stay warm. 232 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: That sounds miserable to me. The work you're doing is important, 233 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: but I can't imagine how frigid it is, so stay warm. 234 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: You're getting good stuff, and stay safe. 235 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 6: Thank you guys. 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 5: Great to be with you today. 237 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: She's doing really good work. We wanted to find somebody 238 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: on the ground. You can go follow her. She's posting 239 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: a lot of videos if you're curious what it actually 240 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: looks like amid the protest. Really good work there, Brecastole 241 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: with the Daily Wire. Look online, hackers have all kinds 242 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: of ways to steal your data. 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We've got, 278 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: honestly just an all star lineup of podcast hosts that 279 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: are doing shows there, a whole range of people, and 280 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: you should go check it out. All right, we'll get 281 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: into this here we go. I knew this was gonna happen. 282 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: It's time for me to get a little heat. 283 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: You know. 284 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: Clay steers right into it. You know, he's like and 285 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: as always tell you, the more you get angry at 286 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: a Clay take the deeper He goes on the take. 287 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: So just remember that. 288 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: Okay, this is like telling someone please don't play with 289 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: those fireworks. They make a really big boom. Like he's 290 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: now he's gonna run off into the woods with the fireworks. 291 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Here we have Daniel. 292 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: This is Ee on the talkbacks, Daniel from Pennsylvania who 293 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: listens on news radio five eighty and play Ee. 294 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 8: Okay, guys, I was loving your show until you went 295 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 8: after the Philly cheese. State Man, Either you need to 296 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 8: see a doctor or you need to have your taste 297 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 8: buds checked or something, because the Philly cheese steak is 298 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 8: God's gift to man. 299 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: I'm with him. 300 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I think you're you're just you're out to lunch. No 301 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: pun intended on this one. 302 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: Clay. Clay supports you on the cheese. I'm sorry. 303 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: Anything that required that has cheese whiz added to it 304 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 4: is just not gourmet. 305 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: It is. 306 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: It's just it's two peasants for my taste buds. I 307 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: cannot get excited about cheese with. So now there are 308 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: fancy cheese steaks out there. If you're gonna slice up 309 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: some delicious seasoned sirloin, melt some cheese on it, and Clay. 310 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna admit something, Carrie, my wife, we made it. 311 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: We went to a mozzarella making class last night to 312 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: learn how to make mozzarella. And I will also admit 313 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: that I didn't. You're supposed to make it and bring 314 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: it home. I couldn't get I just ate it. 315 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Were there people in the mozzarella making class? Or is 316 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: it just like twenty p It was like a cooking class, 317 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: but for making mozzarella. So it was we had a 318 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: little date, so we made I made. 319 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: As it was it all dates? Was like, what is it? 320 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: All male? Female? Were there any none? 321 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: It was married? It was married couples from the neighborhood 322 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: pretty much. Yeah, not really, no surprise there. You know 323 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: everyone was talking about like when they had to get 324 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: back to their babysitter, including us. 325 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: So, but we made some mozzarella. Let me tell you 326 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: fresh montzrella. 327 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: Romantic, very romantic fresh. Uh So that is fun and 328 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: you're wrong on the chiefe steak. But I'm going to 329 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: take on some some approbrium here. I'm going to take 330 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: on some some negativity maybe from Cincinnati. 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: You asked the question, which I thought was a good one. 332 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Is there any regional delicacy that you have tried that 333 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: you are just like, this is not very good. The 334 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: whole Cincinnati chili thing, like the spaghetti chili stuff, it's awful. 335 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: It is. 336 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: I tried it, and I understand that in Cincinnati there 337 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: is a full on revolt that may well be happening 338 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: right now. 339 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: Through throughout radio. It's awful. 340 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: They should be in arrist in Cincinnati for that to 341 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: be the food that they are famous for. 342 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: It is atrocious. 343 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody who comes to Nashville, for instance, 344 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: where I live, and says, you know what's really bad? 345 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: Fried chicken? You know, hot fried chicken. It's awful, and 346 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: no one would ever say it because it would be 347 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: a lie. But this Cincinnati chili stuff, buck, it's awful. 348 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: I tried. 349 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: I've never even heard of it. I'm looking at a 350 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: photo of it right now. Looks like dog food. Not 351 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: gonna lie. Can't can't get excited about that. 352 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: And look, I'm a pro spaghetti, I'm pro chili. I 353 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: am not pro the combination of the two. It's awful. 354 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: It's really a bad combo. I don't know where it started. 355 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I don't know who's responsible for it, but you can 356 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: do better, Cincinnati, You have done better in the past. 357 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: Pete Rose is rolling over. 358 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: In his grave right now over this ff Reggie Quick 359 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: from North Carolina. 360 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: Hit this one. 361 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: New York style pizza. Totally overrated. I've tried it. 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Sign up today, Welcome 380 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: back in play Travis buck Sexton Show. Okay, let's circle 381 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: back again, and right about the end of the first hour, 382 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: a video of the ice officer's perspective was released by 383 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: a company called a media site called Alpha News. We 384 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: talked with the Brekastole on the ground, but I think Buck, 385 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: maybe we can circle back to this because it is 386 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: not yet airing anywhere on Fox News, CNN or MSNBC. 387 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: My guess is they're probably trying to validate it themselves, 388 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: because this is an exclusive that Alpha News has. 389 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 2: Let's start with this. 390 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: You and I are not experts by any stretch of 391 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: the imagination and what is fake and what is real. 392 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: I will say, though this appears to be very valid, 393 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: I don't think this could be AI. I don't think 394 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: they could fake this, right? Would you say? We're all 395 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: going to be called upon for many different videos in 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: the years ahead. Is this real or is this fake? 397 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Is probably the number one thing all of us are 398 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: going to have to do when we watch videos that 399 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: go viral. You and I have watched this video. I 400 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: would say with almost one hundred percent certainty. This appears 401 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: to be the real video of the perspective of the 402 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: ice agent that fired these shots. Yeah, the best thing 403 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: you can do these days is try to look for 404 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: some visual tells for it to be AI. 405 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 4: And there are some out there. By the way, there 406 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: might not be for all that much longer. As these 407 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: videos get more and more advanced, then you're really just 408 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 4: trying to go on chain of custody, who had this, 409 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: who posted it. But yeah, I have very little doubt 410 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: that this video I have. I'm ninety nine percent sure 411 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: this video is real. 412 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 2: I would say that I would go even higher. I 413 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: mean it would. 414 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 1: You would have to be the greatest AI artist of 415 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: all time to fake this when you see the different 416 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: perspectives involved. So let's break it down. Because people can't 417 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: see it yet and you can't even you can go 418 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: on social media and you can watch it at Clay Travis, 419 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: at Buck Sexton. We have shared it at the Clay 420 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: and Buck Show. So this is one where if you 421 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: want to see for yourself and make your own determination, 422 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: we encourage you to go look at the video that 423 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: we have shared on our social media feeds. Now, with 424 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: that in mind, Buck, you have trained I'm gonna make 425 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: you the expert here. You have trained I've done this 426 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: a little bit because from a legal perspective, I've done it, 427 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: but you have spent a lot of time training on 428 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: simplified good shoot bad shoot. So if you were charged 429 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: with analyzing this from a good shoot bad shoot perspective, 430 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: what should people know about what this video shows? And 431 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: how would you analyze it? From a good shoot that is, 432 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: it is a legal opportunity to shoot someone, and a 433 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: bad shoot that is, it would be illegal and you 434 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: could potentially face criminal charges. Right, And I'm glad you 435 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: clarify that too, because when you say something like clean 436 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: shoot or good shoot in law enforcement or law terminology, 437 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: it's not like celebrating and high fiving over it. 438 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: It just means that it was lawful, right. 439 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it's sad when someone is killed in a 440 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 4: whole range of law enforcement situations, you know, if someone's 441 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 4: having a perfect example Clay, the woman who came after 442 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 4: that officer on the body cam, and I think it 443 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: was Virginia basketball player with the butcher knife, right, he 444 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: had every right to shoot her. He did nothing wrong, 445 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 4: but as a terrible she clearly was having a mental breakdown, 446 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: and it was a very sad situation. But he had 447 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: to shoot her. Yeah, good shoot, quote unquote good shoot. 448 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: That's not oh wow, I'm so glad that this thing 449 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: is a horrible thing that happened. But he did nothing wrong, 450 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: nothing unlawful in the shooting, and in fact, in that case, clearly, 451 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 4: I mean, it was beyond any reasonable doubt at all, 452 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 4: there's no doubt had to shoot to save his life, 453 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: which he has every right. Every human being, you have 454 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: a right to self defense. That is innate. You have 455 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 4: a natural law right to self defense. No state, no entity, 456 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 4: no government can say sorry now. Democrats pretend otherwise. They 457 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: sometimes want to make self defense. In fact, they generally 458 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 4: want to make self defense illegal. They want to disarm you, 459 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: they want to prosecute you. Depends, of course, on the situation. 460 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: You know, who are you defending yourself against. Are you 461 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 4: defending yourself against an oppressed person, then perhaps it's not 462 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: self defense, because we have to look at the historical context. Anyway, 463 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 4: the first thing, Clay is, you'll look at this and 464 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: this even goes to just my concealed carry course here 465 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: in Florida, which so many millions of you listening have 466 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 4: done in different states where you get into am I 467 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 4: in reasonable fear of my safety or the safety of 468 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 4: somebody that I am immediately capable of responding to protect. 469 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: So it's not just I have a firearm. By the way, 470 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about this law enforcement context in a second. 471 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: I just mean for everyday civilians, you have a legal 472 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: self defense right and the way it breaks down, Yes, 473 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 4: it's different verbiage, and there's duty to retreat, there's castle doctrine, 474 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: There's all these things in different states that can come 475 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 4: into play. But the very basic one is the very 476 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: basic self defense is do you have a reasonable fear 477 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: of serious bodily harm and or death for you or 478 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: somebody that you are intervening to protect in a reasonable way. 479 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 4: So if I draw my pistol, some guy pulls a 480 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 4: knife out and says, I'm gonna kill you, give me 481 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: your wallet. Oh, I actually am concealed caring right now, 482 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: I get to my Smith and Wesson bodyguard. I put 483 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 4: too in his chest. That's a lawful you know, he's 484 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 4: put a knife up to my throat. He said I'm 485 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 4: gonna kill you. Lawful use of force. If he does 486 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: the same thing to my wife, or a friend of 487 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 4: mine that I'm walking down the street with. Again, lawful 488 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: user force for me to draw my weapon, because I 489 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 4: can articulate this person had a lethal lethal weapon up 490 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 4: against me, threaten me with it. They force the confrontation. 491 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 4: Clay that also comes into it. This is important. 492 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: I know this. 493 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 4: In Florida law, you can't I can't get into an 494 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: argument with somebody. And this is a very good nuance 495 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: in the law. I can't get it in an argument. 496 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: Somebody pulls me over, go run into my house, get 497 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 4: a gun, go back out to you know, the street 498 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 4: or the bar or whatever. You can't bring them into 499 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 4: a bar, but you know, go go out and say, 500 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: oh yeah, let's go buddy. 501 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: That can be. 502 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 4: Taken into account. Now you're instigating the situation knowing you 503 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: have a firearm. 504 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: That's different. 505 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: Now you could be now now you could be looking 506 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: at a manslaughter situation. 507 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: Right. 508 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 4: So in the case of law enforcement, are they acting 509 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 4: within the scope of their of their actual position. And 510 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: we went through this even in the CIA, because I 511 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 4: had weapons in the CIA, and you know, even though 512 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: we were abroad, you had to be able to articulate 513 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 4: if you shot somebody. As a CIA officer. They're gonna 514 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 4: treat it just like your FBI or anybody else, right, 515 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: They're gonna treat it like a law enforcement situation. So 516 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 4: you have to be in the in the lawful scope 517 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: of your duties, and you have to be in a 518 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 4: reasonable fear of serious body harm yourself, you know, for 519 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 4: yourself or somebody immediately with you. Those are the two 520 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 4: big things. This video, to me, proves beyond any reasonable doubt. 521 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 4: The officer was acting in a lawful capacity, dealing with 522 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: somebody obstructing a lawful operation, and is hit by a 523 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: car that is clearly used as a weapon. If you 524 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 4: wanted to get away, if you wanted to hit him, 525 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: he can't tell the difference. So to me, it's a 526 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: very clearly a clean shoot play based on what a 527 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: standard law enforcement use of force would be. Let me 528 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: hit you with a couple of other details. For those 529 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: of you who are not able to see the video, 530 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: and I understand we're sharing with you a video talking 531 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 4: about it on radio. This couple of details. The wife. 532 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: This woman was a lesbian and I don't know if 533 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: she was officially married, but she had a partner another woman. 534 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: The wife is outside of a car, this Ice agent 535 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: appears to be walking around the vehicle to get the 536 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: license plate to be able to have the information. They 537 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: are at parking blocking the road. As he is asking 538 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: her to get out of the car. One of the 539 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Ice agents is the wife says drive baby drive. She 540 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: yells it, drive baby drive. She wants her partner to flee. 541 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: This interaction with the Ice agent. You then can see 542 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: and again the there has been a discussion. They've tried 543 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: to say, well, she just panicked, she didn't know what 544 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: she was doing. She was like her. She is actually 545 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: obeying the command of her partner, and she looks directly 546 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: at the Ice agent in front of her, who is 547 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: firing that the shot who fired the shots that killed her. 548 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: She is looking directly at him when she accelerates. So 549 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: some people tried to say, well, she never saw him, 550 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: like she wasn't aware that he was there. 551 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: She was no. 552 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: You can see his video shows her eyes looking directly 553 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: at him, and uh, I just I think this is 554 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: going to end the story. But for everybody out there 555 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: who tried to demonize this guy and say that this 556 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: Ice agent was a murderer, like the mayor did that 557 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: the argument that he was defending himself was bs like 558 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: the mayor did. That this was that he should be 559 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: charged with crimes like mayor, like Governor Tim Walls did. 560 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: This video completely refutes that, Buck, you and I were 561 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: talking about off air. 562 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: We don't know. 563 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: This company, this media company, Alphin News. Some of you 564 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: may in Minnesota know more about Alpha News. This is 565 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: a huge story for them, and it alphannews dot org. 566 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: I'm going to their website. This is the organization that 567 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: published the uh that published the story. I don't know 568 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: anything about their predispositions, political dispositions, anything at all about it. 569 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: It seems like they may be a little bit right leaning. 570 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: But the stories that I'm seeing on the front of 571 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: their website right now, it appears to be a nonprofit. 572 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: But this is a huge coup for them. So again, 573 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: you can go watch it. I would encourage you to 574 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: go watch it. It has not yet. I'm a little 575 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: bit surprised by this not yet aired on any of 576 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: the cable news networks, so they are not talking about 577 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: this yet. But jd Vance just tweeted, Buck, what the 578 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: press has done in lying about this innocent law enforcement 579 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: officer is disgusting. 580 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: You should all be ashamed. Of your selves. 581 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: Can I just also point out that our initial reaction 582 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: to this, based on far less clear video footage, is 583 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: nothing but confirmed by additional evidence and information. If that 584 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: were not the case, we would speak to you honestly 585 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: about that and say, wow, I didn't see that angle 586 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: or I didn't realize that aspect of it. Maybe this is, 587 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 4: but I would just note everything we find out just 588 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: goes more toward initially what we thought would, which I 589 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: think is quite clearly a lawful use of force for 590 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: this officer. So nothing has gone with more information, that 591 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: position is strengthened without any change in that chain of events. 592 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 4: So I think that's indicative of something going on here 593 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 4: as well. And you know the other part of it 594 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: is Clay can't mess around with people with guns who 595 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: are doing their job as law enforcement officers. It's a 596 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: really bad idea to do. So this should be a 597 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: and this is something that clearly they're like training people 598 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: to do this in different places. 599 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 2: And this is not a game, all right. 600 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 4: It's not a game to get in a car and 601 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: snowy conditions and get in between cops. 602 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: They're dealing with. 603 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 4: Some of the people that these ice officers are arresting 604 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: thousands of them. 605 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: In fact, are not just illegals. 606 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 4: There are illegal petals, illegal rapists, illegal gang members, trend 607 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: to Aragua. There we should we mentioned the trend to Aragua. 608 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: Guy was just involved in a shooting or got shot 609 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: trying to run his. 610 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: Car over people. 611 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: Yes, getting in the middle of this is a dangerous 612 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: and stupid thing to do and also a criminal It. 613 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: Is criminal clay for a reason. 614 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 4: You know, the same way that it's illegal to block 615 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 4: a highway. 616 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: It's a dangerous thing to do. 617 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: It is a stupid and dangerous thing to think that 618 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 4: you are blocking cops from doing their jobs because you 619 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 4: don't like federal law, you don't like the policies. 620 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: In effect, it's actually illegal to do that. 621 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: Also, this whole world that we have created where we 622 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: want to incentivize people to walk around with their cell 623 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: phones and taunt other people while recording it in an 624 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: effort to try to get a reaction. But what they 625 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: are trying to do to ICE is exactly what happened. 626 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: They want to accelerate the negativity and in some way 627 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: try to get ICE agents misbehaving. The whole point of 628 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: having their camera out and filming them and taunting them 629 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: while doing it is to get a viral moment that 630 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: they can share to try to make Ice look bad. 631 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: And I'll just say this again, it's something that I've 632 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 4: been advancing as a theory for quite some time. Body 633 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: cams basically defeated BLM god bless body camps once again. 634 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: Body camera footage shows us the truth of what happened Clay. 635 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 4: If there was no video of this incident, there would 636 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 4: be a whole different situation playing out right now. You'd 637 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: have every Democrat going with the most you know, fanciful 638 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: and defamatory version of events to try to destroy this 639 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 4: officer's life and try to all because they want to 640 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: undermine efforts to enforce immigration law under the Trump administration. 641 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 4: Because we have video, it makes it a lot harder. 642 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 4: And because you have video from the officer's perspective, you know, 643 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: what is that officer supposed to wait until the SUV 644 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 4: is like actually crushing him, like like the tie on 645 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: his chest, and then he's allowed to I'm just wondering 646 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: what these lunatic libs think is going to be the 647 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: policy here going forward. 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Here we say, okay, 685 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 2: here we go. 686 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 4: We have Pat in fair Hope, Alabama wants to weigh in. 687 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: What's going on? Former Cincinnati resident. What's going on? 688 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: Pat Well? 689 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 9: I grew up in Cincinnati. I'm eighty eight years old. 690 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 9: And I love Cincinnati Chili. I think you need to 691 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 9: rethink it is. It is wonderful. It is a Greek 692 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 9: recipe and people didn't make it at home, so we 693 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 9: always went to either Skyline or Go Star Chili Parlos 694 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 9: and ate it with shredded Pat. 695 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: I just want to say, I think Clay can consider 696 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: himself fully chastised right now. Clay has been chastised for 697 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 4: his commentary. 698 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: Pat, I walk where you live right now in fair Hope, 699 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Alabama a beautiful place. 700 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 9: It is beautiful. It is beautiful, and I'm so blessed 701 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 9: because our publicsprosure store ourselves from the Skyline Chili, and 702 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 9: I can have it all the time in service of 703 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 9: friends and people here like it too, So I need 704 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 9: you to rethink it. 705 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: He will, Pat, I'll make him rethink it, and you're 706 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: a thank you for calling in. 707 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 708 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I took my friends in Cincinnati to go to Skyline Chili. 709 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: Everyone said, this is the worst meal we've ever had 710 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: in our lives. Wow, Wow, double it down. 711 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to throw Pat under the bus here, 712 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: but Pat's one hundred percent wrong on this. 713 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: Skyline at Chili is awful.