Speaker 1: From Futromidia and PRX. It's Latino Usa. I'm Mariaino hossa.
Speaker 1: Last time we were the first episode of the Elian
Speaker 1: Gonzalez Story about a young Cuban boy rescued at sea,
Speaker 1: but what followed after he was found was a diplomatic
Speaker 1: crisis between the United States and Cuba. In the last episode,
Speaker 1: we heard all about how Elian Gonzalez was rescued alone
Speaker 1: from the Florida Straits. His mother died while trying to
Speaker 1: cross from Cuba, and the boy was placed with relatives
Speaker 1: he had in Miami. The Miami relatives believed it was
Speaker 1: his mother's dream for Elian to stay in the United States,
Speaker 1: but his father in Cuba wanted his boy back. We
Speaker 1: pick up the story now with episode two of Chess
Speaker 1: Peace the Elian Gonzalez Story. Here's host and Latino USA
Speaker 1: co executive producer Benny Later.
Speaker 2: I'm it.
Speaker 3: When Elian made it to Miami. I was twelve years
Speaker 3: old living in Cuba. My younger brother, Juan Carlos, who
Speaker 3: we called Kuankey, was eight. Kuankey, like me, remembers. Alian's
Speaker 3: face was everywhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, and they made surets and posters.
Speaker 2: And all over the school.
Speaker 4: There was the flavor of the month.
Speaker 3: You know, Elian's story was more than just the flavor
Speaker 3: of the month. Actually, it was a national cause. Before
Speaker 3: Elian was even rescued, his family in Cuba had contacted
Speaker 3: the Communist party in his hometown seeking help. That's how
Speaker 3: Fidel Castro found out about Ilian. The Cuban government sent
Speaker 3: a message to the US the day after Elian was
Speaker 3: found tregression, and Mino Superba in Cuba returned the boy
Speaker 3: to his father in Cuba. In the days that followed,
Speaker 3: Castro met with Ilian's father and became increasingly angry.
Speaker 5: In film and check.
Speaker 3: He said, the US has kidnapped Elian Gonzalez.
Speaker 6: The opinion shut down where.
Speaker 3: It sounded a little like a threat, But the ominous
Speaker 3: stone in Castro's voice escaped my key brother. He was
Speaker 3: more concerned that he could not watch his regular cartoons
Speaker 3: because of the constant news about Eliang.
Speaker 4: They were giving a whole spill of bring back Alan
Speaker 4: at that time. I'm a kaid that really didn't care
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 3: I did not care about cartoons. I was just a
Speaker 3: regular nerdy preteen, dividing my time between poetry and the
Speaker 3: spice girls. The year before, my father had fled Cuba
Speaker 3: for Miami. He was trying to escape the poverty and
Speaker 3: instability of our country. I didn't know when I will
Speaker 3: see him again. Much of this time in my life
Speaker 3: is blurry, but there is one sharp memory. I'm in
Speaker 3: front of the US headquarters in Cuba at a government
Speaker 3: mandated protest that I was required to attend, screaming loudly
Speaker 3: and Elian bring back Ilian to Cuba. This memory surprises
Speaker 3: me now because frankly, I don't remember what I actually
Speaker 3: thought of Elia, like I don't remember actually having an opinion,
Speaker 3: and yet here I was at this protest, screaming from
Speaker 3: the bottom of my heart. I have come to realize
Speaker 3: I was not a screaming for Elian. I was screaming
Speaker 3: for my dad, screaming in frustration that, like Elean, the
Speaker 3: same strip of ocean separated me from my father. I
Speaker 3: did not understand or really care about the political forces
Speaker 3: that had caused or separation. I only knew that I
Speaker 3: missed him, that I needed him, that I was angry
Speaker 3: that I could not be with him, and so I screamed.
Speaker 4: No family issue had to go through what we went,
Speaker 4: just because I'm looking for a better future.
Speaker 3: My brother told me this recently. I agree, but we
Speaker 3: are Cuban, and to be Cuban is so often to
Speaker 3: be separated from their family. And Penny later meets and
Speaker 3: this is chess peace. The Elian Gonzalez Story a production
Speaker 3: of Ututa Studios in partnership with iHeart Michael Turda podcast Network.
Speaker 3: On December sixth, nineteen ninety nine, Elian Gonzalez celebrated his
Speaker 3: sixth birthday in Miami. It was just a week and
Speaker 3: a half after he had been rescued from the sea.
Speaker 3: He had been staying with distant relatives on his dad's side,
Speaker 3: his great uncle Lasara Gonzalez, and Lazaro's twenty one year
Speaker 3: old daughter, Mary Leasis.
Speaker 7: How did he survive by himself when he's only five?
Speaker 7: And the only thing I could probably say that it's
Speaker 7: just a miracle.
Speaker 3: People said. She became like a mother figure for Elian.
Speaker 3: She cared for him, making him chocolate milk, something that
Speaker 3: was a luxury in Cuba and that Elean had quickly
Speaker 3: come to love. One journalist reported that Mary Leasis would
Speaker 3: say to Elian, mere Allan Sito, your grandmothers cannot make
Speaker 3: you this in Cua.
Speaker 8: Just want him to be wherever he wants to be comfortable.
Speaker 3: Mari Lesis quickly became the family spokesperson. Unlike her father,
Speaker 3: she spoke English well because she had been raised in
Speaker 3: the US. She was young, passionate about the lean, and
Speaker 3: comfortable in front of the cameras. I asked him, if
Speaker 3: do you want to go back?
Speaker 9: You mean you know you want to stay here, and
Speaker 9: he said, I don't want to go back.
Speaker 3: She and her father, last Settle, believed Elian's mother died
Speaker 3: trying to give him safety and freedom in the US,
Speaker 3: and they were not alone. Cuban Americans would show up
Speaker 3: at their house demand in the US government let Elean
Speaker 3: stay in the US. Yeamanda. People would say it would
Speaker 3: be a shame to send the boy back to communism
Speaker 3: and hunger in Cuba. At his birthday at a local park,
Speaker 3: Elien was given men gifts and a huge birthday cake.
Speaker 3: But that was an Alien's only birthday party in Cuba.
Speaker 3: His school organized a celebration in his absence with a
Speaker 3: special guest, Fidel Gastro himself stopped by. He wore his
Speaker 3: typical olive green military uniform. Alien's father, Juamiel spoke to
Speaker 3: his son by phone that day to wish him a
Speaker 3: happy birthday, and they spoke as if Alien will be
Speaker 3: back in Cuba soon.
Speaker 2: Well that went to Heidi.
Speaker 3: Really there were protests in Havana marking the week of
Speaker 3: Alian's birthday. Cubans chanted down with imperialism, socialism, or death
Speaker 3: Oh Wenday. But the protests in Cuba did not change
Speaker 3: eleians status in the US. His future was still in limbo.
Speaker 3: His Miami relatives had begun the process to file for
Speaker 3: asylum for Elian. At the time, Cubans were guaranteed entry
Speaker 3: to the US if they made it to the US soil.
Speaker 3: But Elian didn't technically meet these requirements.
Speaker 10: Because he was rescued at sea and never made it
Speaker 10: to the shoreline.
Speaker 2: He was a wet Cuban national.
Speaker 3: This is Bernie Permurder, professor of law at the University
Speaker 3: of Miami. He's referring to an unusual American policy at
Speaker 3: the time known as bieseco pimojus or wet foot dryfoot.
Speaker 3: It allowed any Cuban to legally stay in the US
Speaker 3: as long as they made it to the American shore
Speaker 3: after crossing the ocean from Cuba. Literally stepping on dry land,
Speaker 3: that's the dry foot. But Cubans who were captured or
Speaker 3: rescued at sea by the cost Guard, they were not
Speaker 3: permitted entry to the United States. That's the wet foot.
Speaker 10: The federal government had taken legal custody of elianis I
Speaker 10: said he didn't reach the shore, so he did not
Speaker 10: have the benefit of dry feet landing on the beaches
Speaker 10: of Florida.
Speaker 3: So Alien's status under immigration law was not certain, and
Speaker 3: another immigration policy in the US at that time said
Speaker 3: that only a parent could apply for asylum for their child.
Speaker 3: So to immigration officials, Alien's Miami relatives didn't have the
Speaker 3: authority to decide the boy's fate.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I understand what their rights are. These
Speaker 2: are distant relatives.
Speaker 3: This is Jim Goldman, former special agent with US Immigration
Speaker 3: and Naturalization Services or ions. We shall say in unusual circumstances,
Speaker 3: the law does allow the government to assign a guardian
Speaker 3: to one unaccompanied child, even if there are distant relatives
Speaker 3: or not relatives. But in this case, the government was
Speaker 3: insistent that there was no need to since Alien's father
Speaker 3: wanted him back.
Speaker 2: I think the biological father has more right to make
Speaker 2: decisions for his child at the time was, you know,
Speaker 2: five and six years old. More so than anybody.
Speaker 3: Jim thinks this case should have been open and shopped.
Speaker 2: But it became a hot topic because I think the
Speaker 2: system allowed for it to become a hot topic.
Speaker 3: He's right.
Speaker 7: Tensions between the United States and Cuba get hotter every
Speaker 7: day six year old Cuban refugee Ilian Gonzales remains in
Speaker 7: this country.
Speaker 3: The American media system jumped on Alien's story.
Speaker 11: Cuban men, women and children pro tested on the streets
Speaker 11: of Havana by the thousands last night. It was the
Speaker 11: largest turnout so far in the third night of protest,
Speaker 11: orchestrated by Fidel Castro.
Speaker 3: It became the biggest story in the country at a
Speaker 3: time when networks competed for wall to world news covers.
Speaker 12: It happens at the same time that we have the
Speaker 12: modern media machine being created, the twenty four hour news cycle,
Speaker 12: the dying of network news, the expansion of cable news,
Speaker 12: the need for content.
Speaker 3: Go back and look at some of the news archives,
Speaker 3: and it does start to feel at times like Elean
Speaker 3: was treated like content. There were cameras always stuck in
Speaker 3: Ilian outside the Miami home, reporters trying to catch a
Speaker 3: look of him playing ball being a little boy.
Speaker 5: Relatives of Elian Gonzalez say they saw a different side
Speaker 5: of the six year old, a boy simply filled with
Speaker 5: joy and happiness.
Speaker 3: Reporters tried to capture every detail of Alian's introduction to
Speaker 3: American culture, like when he went to Disney World for
Speaker 3: the first time, where he got a personal hug and
Speaker 3: a baseball hat autograph Bornana Masi Alamnos came Mickey Mouse himself.
Speaker 5: But Ellian showed some lingering signs of his Thanksgiving ordeal
Speaker 5: and rescue at sea when he went on the It's
Speaker 5: a Small World water.
Speaker 3: Rod and the interview request kept coming. Diane Sawyer had
Speaker 3: a playdate with Lean on camera.
Speaker 2: It was probably the biggest media item in the United States,
Speaker 2: if not the world at the time.
Speaker 9: He would go to a party, you would go to
Speaker 9: a restaurant, you would see your family. The talk the
Speaker 9: main subject was Elian. You know what's going to happen
Speaker 9: to that boy.
Speaker 3: Alina Mayo Assay is a television news bra a seasoned
Speaker 3: news anchor who covered Miami's biggest stories for decades. She
Speaker 3: says nothing at the time could compare to the appeal
Speaker 3: of the the end story. It was unprecedented.
Speaker 9: It was our headline story practically every day. It was
Speaker 9: before a Lean and after a Lian. It definitely marked
Speaker 9: a line and the story and the history of the
Speaker 9: Cuban exile in the United States, especially in Miami.
Speaker 3: But in Cuba. The US media frenzy seemed to make
Speaker 3: Fidel Castro even more upset. And soon Castro will send
Speaker 3: another stern message. Returned the boy in seventy two hours.
Speaker 3: Check Fidel's message to the US was clear. Returned the
Speaker 3: boy in three days only, not Elo Freman. So that
Speaker 3: the page suffering on trauma Dipoi and his family does
Speaker 3: not go a minut longer, he said, and his words
Speaker 3: were in the only ominous move. Castro stationed several dozen
Speaker 3: Cuban soldiers outside of the US Government Intersection Office in Havana.
Speaker 3: This is the headquarters where I remember attending government sponsor
Speaker 3: protests for Elian. I remember the tension in the air,
Speaker 3: the vague sense that there was something biggest stake here,
Speaker 3: something with a lot of biggers. To understand why lands
Speaker 3: case became such a big deal, you had to understand
Speaker 3: the complicated relationship between Cuba and the United States. Let's
Speaker 3: start in the early fifties. At this time, Cuba was
Speaker 3: ruled by Fulhenzioattista, who was once elected, but whose government
Speaker 3: had been become essentially a military dictatorship.
Speaker 13: Six years of surface prosperity and government corruption, of repression
Speaker 13: and police brutality right explosive discontent.
Speaker 3: Mattista was friendly to US interests, allowing American companies like
Speaker 3: Coca Cola and United Fruit to warn a giant amount
Speaker 3: of Cuban land workers struggled to survive on low wages
Speaker 3: and oppressive conditions. This inequality ripened the country for the
Speaker 3: ideals of Fidel Castro's revolution Urbis.
Speaker 6: Fidel Castro emerged triumphant after two years a guerrilla warfare
Speaker 6: against the Batista regime.
Speaker 2: A revolution that.
Speaker 9: Began with Castro a fugitive, ended with the finding dictator
Speaker 9: for Cencio Battista and the entry into Havana of rebel
Speaker 9: forces to be acclaimed by the city.
Speaker 3: He and his fighters, including a John Argentinian doctor named
Speaker 3: Ermeto che Evara, eventually over through Battista and his government.
Speaker 3: Castro and his men were the underdogs. The uprising had
Speaker 3: begun with just eighteen men in the mountains of La
Speaker 3: Sierra Maestra, and it had spread to the whole island.
Speaker 3: At first, the US was not alarmed.
Speaker 7: Now, when Fidel Castro's fighting to depose Battista, he's not
Speaker 7: calling himself communists. Many of the people who were in
Speaker 7: his movement, which was called the twenty sixth of July Movement,
Speaker 7: were young people who were ardently anti communists.
Speaker 3: This is Ala Ferrer, the Cuban American history professor at
Speaker 3: Princeton you heard from in episode one.
Speaker 7: But they believed in deposing Batista. They believed in acting
Speaker 7: against government corruption.
Speaker 3: By nineteen sixty, the new government approved laws that banned
Speaker 3: all foreign ownership of Cuban land, banishing American companies from
Speaker 3: the island and nationalizing their businesses. His government also confiscated
Speaker 3: the law of Cubans who held more than one thousand acres.
Speaker 3: Even Castro's own mother was apparently outraged that her son
Speaker 3: had confiscated their family estate. Castro redistributed this line to
Speaker 3: workers or statecomings.
Speaker 7: They start enacting social reforms like the urban reform, cutting rents,
Speaker 7: and with all these laws that they're passing, they're getting
Speaker 7: enormous amounts of support.
Speaker 3: Some of that support came from my own grandparents, who
Speaker 3: got the chance to buy for almost nothing the apartment
Speaker 3: that they were renting before the revolution. It was the
Speaker 3: same apartment where I was raised with my mother thirty
Speaker 3: years after that. Not everyone felt like my grandparents.
Speaker 7: Obviously, the people whose land is being taken away are
Speaker 7: not necessarily going to support.
Speaker 3: But Castro was well liked in Cuba, not just by
Speaker 3: my grandparents but by many other Cubans.
Speaker 6: Save with your policies in Cuba, doctor Castro leading to
Speaker 6: conditions of great economic difficulty?
Speaker 8: Is this so everybody working, everybody happy?
Speaker 3: In this nineteen sixty one BBC interview, Castro is young, smiling,
Speaker 3: easy going. The journalist wrote that Castro charmed and impressed
Speaker 3: many reporters. When Castro came to power, he promised democratic
Speaker 3: elections would come as soon as the new government stabilized,
Speaker 3: But by the early sixties that hadn't happened. The Cubans
Speaker 3: who let for the United States after Castro had taken
Speaker 3: their land. So Castro not for a revolutionary but a despot.
Speaker 6: Some people say, some of your Cuban enemies, says yes.
Speaker 6: People in Miami Americans say that you started a revolution
Speaker 6: to bring in democracy, and you have not done so.
Speaker 3: In this part of the video, when the reporter meants
Speaker 3: Cubans in Miami, Castro gives a Sondricita his marks a little.
Speaker 8: Do you believe that there is no democracy here? And
Speaker 8: I'm ensure there is more your question than that. In
Speaker 8: the United States, the most free main man you can't
Speaker 8: find in all America is the Cuban.
Speaker 3: Ada says that in a survey from February of nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty nine, about ninety one percent of the respondents said
Speaker 3: that the new government was doing everything perfectly well, but
Speaker 3: Washington didn't feel this way. Here is adaigen.
Speaker 7: The President and senators and congressmen were saying, what is
Speaker 7: Cuba doing? It's turning communists.
Speaker 3: By nineteen sixty two, the US had cut diplomatic ties
Speaker 3: with Cuba and declared and embargo forbidding American trade with Cuba,
Speaker 3: hoping to create shortages and hunger on the island to
Speaker 3: destiblize Castro's new government. By this time, Castro had been
Speaker 3: turning into the Soviet Union for help and trade.
Speaker 8: To what the United States and self respect can endure.
Speaker 14: That level has now been reached.
Speaker 3: The CIA also secretly trained some fourteen hundred Cubans who
Speaker 3: had led for the US to invade Cuba at the
Speaker 3: Way of Peaks Lava Yedecuccinos, believing the attack could kickstart
Speaker 3: an uprising against Castro. But the attended invasion failed miserably.
Speaker 3: I remember learning in our history classes in Cuba about
Speaker 3: these early days of Castro's rule, how he created news systems,
Speaker 3: free health care, and free education, improving the quality of
Speaker 3: life for ordinary Cubans. I remember some people in Cuba
Speaker 3: saying that yes, their life improved at the beginning, and
Speaker 3: they supported Castro, pretty convinced that great years were ahead.
Speaker 3: But what I didn't learn in school was that from
Speaker 3: the very beginning, the censorin and self censorin started, and
Speaker 3: Cuba quickly became a place with almost no freedom of expression.
Speaker 3: Under this new regime, dissidents were often imprisoned, and then
Speaker 3: thanks got worse.
Speaker 7: It's a period that follows the fall of the Soviet
Speaker 7: Union and state socialism in Eastern Europe, and the Cuban
Speaker 7: economy just tanked almost from one day to the next.
Speaker 7: There was the joke of you know, Cuba, but it
Speaker 7: wasn't really a joke. You know, Cuba just has three problems,
Speaker 7: you know, Theresa Union and Mercilla Comedia breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Speaker 7: And everywhere I went, the constant refrain was noise fasci
Speaker 7: everyone had the reservation meant that and it was just
Speaker 7: this constant struggle to live and to survive.
Speaker 3: Over the decades, waves of Kuwan's left the island for
Speaker 3: the US in flights and votes. There were the fourteen
Speaker 3: thousand children who were put on planes to Miami in
Speaker 3: fear that they will be taken away from their families
Speaker 3: and put in Communist inductrination camps. That never happened, by
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 7: Then the next wave was nineteen eighty and the Maria
Speaker 7: boat lived in which one hundred and twenty five thousand
Speaker 7: people came in the space of about you know, five months.
Speaker 8: Even less, the president has literally opened the floodgates, placing
Speaker 8: no limitations on the number of Cubans entering the United States.
Speaker 3: A decade after Mariel, with the fall of the Soviet Union,
Speaker 3: Cuba entered the years of severest scarcity that I remember
Speaker 3: from my childhood. The Cuban government named it the Special
Speaker 3: Period or Elperio pessiet Then there.
Speaker 7: Was the Raftro crisis in ninety four, which I think
Speaker 7: was about thirty five thousand people in the space of
Speaker 7: a few months. But in all those years there were
Speaker 7: people leaving.
Speaker 3: Most of the time, families could not leave Cuba together.
Speaker 3: They would decide who had a better chance to leave, save,
Speaker 3: send money, and work hard to help the rest of
Speaker 3: the family on the island. There are many families like
Speaker 3: mine and Aliens where a parent or a child comes
Speaker 3: without the rest of their family.
Speaker 7: Family separation is, you know, was a part of the
Speaker 7: story of the Cuban Revolution from the very beginning.
Speaker 3: Family separation has become such a part of the Cuban
Speaker 3: cultural DNA that is actually pretty difficult to meet a
Speaker 3: Cuban who has not been touched by it. And who
Speaker 3: you blame for that separation depends on what side of
Speaker 3: the small strip of ocean between Cuba and Florida you
Speaker 3: are on. Alien's story flooded every corner of life in Cuba.
Speaker 3: I remember not just attending but watching the protests in
Speaker 3: Havana demanding Elian be brought home. So those Harold Cardinas,
Speaker 3: Quban journalist and political analyst.
Speaker 13: People in Havana had to rally all the time, and
Speaker 13: it's impressive when you look at the images of the
Speaker 13: Malecon in Havana next to the sea full of probably
Speaker 13: millions of Cubans. That is an impressive thing that showed
Speaker 13: the capacity that the Kivan government had back then to
Speaker 13: rally people and to bring them together for a cause.
Speaker 13: I am sure that many of them were strongly encouraged
Speaker 13: in their jobs to join those rallies, but others were
Speaker 13: going because they really believe in it.
Speaker 3: I felt this too. Sure there were people there because
Speaker 3: the protests were mandated, but I also saw people who
Speaker 3: were truly calling for his return, outraged that the boy
Speaker 3: was being kept from his father.
Speaker 13: Obviously, at that age, it's hard to distinguish between the
Speaker 13: real fight of a kid that deserves to be with
Speaker 13: his father and the propaganda and how the governments also
Speaker 13: used people citizens for propaganda purposes, So as a child
Speaker 13: it was hard to distinguish a propaganda.
Speaker 15: On both sides.
Speaker 3: In Cuba, I remember hearing a lot about how Alien's
Speaker 3: father had never agreed that Ilan could be taken to
Speaker 3: the United States, how the US was keeping a boy
Speaker 3: away from the rightful parent, another example of the evil
Speaker 3: US Empire. But for Cubans in Florida. This case was
Speaker 3: about freedom and saving a boy from oppression.
Speaker 14: Many of the people, the Quban Americans in Miami identified
Speaker 14: with the mother and her motivations for doing what she did,
Speaker 14: and the fact that she lost her life in trying
Speaker 14: to do this.
Speaker 3: This is former Assistant Secretary of State Petrometro. But this
Speaker 3: idea that Alien's mother had died trying to reach freedom
Speaker 3: for her son is not as black and white. There
Speaker 3: is some evidence that Alien's mother was going to the
Speaker 3: United States not for freedom, but to follow her boyfriend.
Speaker 15: They truly were the Cuban Romeo and Juliet Well.
Speaker 3: She was reputting the story. Journalist and Louis bardak So
Speaker 3: a five page love letter between the couple, and she
Speaker 3: and others are convinced that love was the real motive.
Speaker 15: The reason the mother was on the boat was because
Speaker 15: of her great love for Rafa Muneerum. If Rafa had
Speaker 15: said we're going to Iceland or we're going to Columbia,
Speaker 15: I think she would have.
Speaker 3: Gone with him, regardless of why she got an boat.
Speaker 3: What you should know is people either identified with Lilian's
Speaker 3: mom and the US or Alien's dad and Cuba.
Speaker 14: Everybody can understand. You know, a child who's a Cuban
Speaker 14: child taken away from you know, the bosom of the
Speaker 14: motherland and all that stuff, and you know we want
Speaker 14: him back, And yeah, I mean it was it was
Speaker 14: great for propaganda.
Speaker 3: I see how Alian was used by both sides to
Speaker 3: boaster ideology. But mostly when I see Alian, I see
Speaker 3: US Cubans, people who have experienced family separation over seven decades.
Speaker 3: I see my family, my brother Juanky, who now lives
Speaker 3: in Miami and works as a SWAT paramedic and firefighter.
Speaker 3: Some people thought that you look like Ilian yourself.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that was my nickname on Fire Academy when
Speaker 4: I was eighteen, or my English pretty much up. But
Speaker 4: back then it was pretty bad, and that was my
Speaker 4: nigdim of Fire Academy, Alion Gonzales. You know, you are
Speaker 4: the little refugees million.
Speaker 3: It is true my brother does look like Elean. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's why it's been easier for me to imagine Elean
Speaker 3: not as a headline, not as a piece of geopolitics
Speaker 3: or history, or even as propaganda. No, I see Elean
Speaker 3: as someone who once was a boy in a new
Speaker 3: and unknown country without his mom or his dad, and
Speaker 3: I know the whole that creates in your heart to
Speaker 3: be separated from a parent. Forces greater than you keeping
Speaker 3: you from them, Countries and their policies, politicians and their aims,
Speaker 3: reporters and their deadlines. That's all in the periphery. At
Speaker 3: the center, at the art of Elian's journey is that
Speaker 3: he was a boy who longed for his parents like
Speaker 3: I once did.
Speaker 1: That was episode two of Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez
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