WEBVTT - Do Opposites Attract in 2026 with Lala Kent... (S3 E9 "Easy Come, Easy Go") 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:10.280 you a Charlotte. Tell me what you were telling me 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.480 before about how you have watched the show or which parts. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.919 So I used to watch like random episodes with my 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:19.479 best friend in the seventh grade. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:20.759 I don't know if we had any. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:22.800 Business watching Sex in the City in the seventh grade, 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.000 but we would do it. We would steal her mom's car, 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:29.000 go to this place called Cafe Training, get takeout Chinese 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:32.320 food in Utah, in Utah, Oh my gosh, wow, come 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:37.160 back to her house and just like whatever was playing, 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:37.559 I guess it. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:38.720 Well, you know when they would. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.640 Do I don't know what this is, probably when it 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.239 was on e right like like it did it have 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.839 the bad words and stuff taken out? 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.680 No? Oh, okay o, we will in it. Wow. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.680 So recently, I want to say, maybe like five six 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.080 months ago, I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.400 I'm gonna start Sex in the City from start to finish. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:01.040 I am obsessed. When I was asked this podcast, I 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:02.120 was so intimidated. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.520 Oh no, I was like taking notes on the episode. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.240 That's endorable. I can't wait to hear your thoughts. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.360 So when you so so so. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:12.240 Have you seen the whole thing yet? 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.840 I have seen so how many seasons were this there's 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.880 six seasons, yes, season one through six. I watched all 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.039 of that, okay, and then I had seen the movies. 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.200 So now what I've been told because I was posting 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:25.920 throughout as I was watching got it being like I 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.360 just started this show is amazing. Everyone's like, this is 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.800 crazy that you, of all people have never seen it. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:31.440 That's true. 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.080 It is a little crazy, right right, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.720 I'm all about sex and I'm all about it being 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:41.360 in the city, and so now I'm going to go 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:43.080 back and watch the movies even though I've seen that. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:47.160 Right, and We'll start and just like post exactly post school. 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:49.360 I love it. I love it. I love it. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.160 So what I mean, I wish I had been following 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.640 along as you were posting, but I have you in person, 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.480 so I should just hear in person. So obviously everyone 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.200 tells me, and I'm rewatching it now for the first time, right, Like, 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.400 I saw each episode as we were going, and sometimes 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.240 it would be rough, it wouldn't be finished, like there 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.919 would be music missing, or there would be a visual 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.920 effects missing or things like that, Right, but we were 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.080 always really anxious to see you know, we would at 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.160 least I remember us being in Sir Jusca said she 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:16.800 didn't watch. 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.359 All of it, but I feel like she did. 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:20.800 I feel like we talked about it, but that was 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.679 obviously a very long time ago. But we would run home, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.040 we would get VHS from HBO and before it aired, yeah, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.560 and go run home and watch it because we were 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.760 you know, we were so in in it, in it 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.800 and of it, like everything was exciting, you know, of course. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:36.440 Yeah. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.720 And then I didn't ever like to rewatch it when 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.840 it was on E or on the different you know, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.640 versions of what it was on, because it seemed like 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.880 I would get stuck in the past, like I didn't 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.520 want to just sit and think about it. And I 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.120 would just walk by and be like, oh, look at 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:52.000 where still we look. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.239 So young, you know, and just keep going. You know 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:53.720 what I'm saying. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:54.840 Do you feel like you were critical? 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:56.040 Well? 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.440 I definitely am critical, but probably more critical when I 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.839 would first watch it, Okay, and that has gotten better 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.400 with time, right, because now it is thirty almost thirty 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:06.960 years later. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.480 Wow, this is insane. 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.400 There's nothing I can do now about my performance, right, nope, 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.960 it's off my shoulders. Like, for instance, there is a 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:19.160 scene in this episode. I have rewatched this episode twice now, Oh, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.520 I should tell everybody we are rewatching Easy Come, Easy Go, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.680 which I have to say is one of the best. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:28.840 It's good episodes. Oh my gosh, so much happens. It's 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.160 season three and it's when I get engaged. So when 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.360 Kyle Kyle recently came on and we discussed, so I 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.880 had watched all kind of the highlights of the Tray relationship, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.120 but then I rewatched it this morning before I was 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.040 going to see you, because it's just such a great 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:42.800 episode and. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.640 So much happens. Yeah, so much happens. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.960 But there is a scene in this episode, and I 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.040 remember at the time also feeling like I didn't do 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:51.520 it well. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:52.360 And then when I. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.160 Watched it for Kyle, I also thought I didn't do 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:55.520 it well. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.400 And then this third time watching I was like, no. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.680 It's fine, like I actually crushed it. I don't know 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.720 if I crushed it. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.680 I never think that way, right, But the scene when 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:04.200 I go to. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.520 Tell Carry about the engagement, yeah, I don't love my 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.160 performance then, And I have a very very visceral memory 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:12.800 of what it was like on the set that day 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.000 because everyone had When I say everyone, I mean behind 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.280 the camera, right. Like it was directed by Charles McDougal, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.200 so one of my favorite directors, and Charles is a 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.640 great director because he doesn't really micromanage. But the way 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.080 that our show was, our writers were very, very involved 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.360 and they were always there. So Michael Patrick King wrote 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.960 our episode. He's one of our executive producers. We love 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.839 him very much. But also we had a bunch of 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.600 women writers and they would all be there, like if 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.120 it was a big scene, everybody would be there and 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.680 everyone would basically tell you what they wanted you to do, 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.080 especially back then, like now I would be like, okay, guys, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:45.880 that's enough, Like let me. 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.160 Just do it right exactly. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.360 But back then, this. 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:52.520 Was really Charlotte's first big storyline, you know, and like 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.000 with a lot going on over many episodes, and in 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.320 this beginning with Trey, we were really laying the groundwork 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.719 of what was going to happened between me and him. Right, 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.480 So the whole idea that she's been wanting this proposal, 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.080 wanting this proposal. One in this proposal and then she 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.680 kind of blows it by basically proposing to herself. They 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.480 wanted me to just be like I don't think they 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.839 wanted me to be tearful, but they just wanted me 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.719 to be in shock. So I'm trying to play shock 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:23.000 through an entire scene, which is very hard, like possibly impossible, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:23.880 you know what I'm saying. 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.479 It's really interesting to hear your perspective on that, because 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.320 that's actually one of my favorite parts, where you're at 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.200 the door and you walk in and it's you're just 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.440 like in a fog and you can tell that. Here's 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.200 what I love about the entire show is, as I've 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.560 gotten older, I see myself at the age of thirty 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.120 five in each of you. There was for such a 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.520 long time it was like which one are you? Yes, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.279 the wind blew the wrong way for Charlotte and she 0:05:55.440 --> 0:06:00.080 doesn't do well with that. No, she has she how 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.880 she wants something to go yes, and that's very much me. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:07.120 So when she wanted it so badly at that dinner 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.560 and then you're just at Carrie's door. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.320 I loved it, you did. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.840 I loved it so good because I felt like there 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.120 was so much going on in your head that you're 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.320 still trying to process, Like I was upset. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:21.159 Oh my god, that. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.080 Makes me so because really, you can never be objective 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.320 about yourself. Really, I'm saying, you just know what you 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.679 were trying to do, and you know what everyone's telling 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.279 you to do, and you see the work like I 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.680 can see myself like trying to do what they were 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.880 telling me to do, rather than just kind of breathing 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.960 and living. But she is just kind of processing, You're right, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.320 which is which is stuck In a way. I felt 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:45.440 like what their direction was at the time was a 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.760 little bit stuck. Like they can get an idea, writers 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.120 especially can get an idea, but it's. 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.160 Hard to act an idea. 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:54.479 You have to really go with what's happening. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.279 You know what I mean, of course. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.400 But Charlotte is very in her head, you know, like 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.640 in general right as like you said, the kind of 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.840 vision of what she wants, right or what she's expecting, 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.960 and then life doesn't live up to it, which of 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.520 course it wouldn't. How could it possibly, you know what 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.600 I mean? No one can read your mind, right, No, 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.120 she's like a big thing, a big thing with Charlotte 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.640 for forever, really, you know, you know, yes, her vision 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.040 versus reality. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.680 Versus reality and that's what I loved about it. And 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.680 I loved when you were at lunch meeting Trey's mom 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.960 for the first time and you were clocking little things like. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.640 How I like that. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:32.320 I like that? 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:33.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:38.000 I just find Charlotte to be so sweet and interesting, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.920 and I relate to that. As I get older and 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.640 have more experiences with different types. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:46.680 Of men, Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.080 Who did you used to relate to? 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.200 I used to feel like I was just a Samantha, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:53.560 like very much. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.320 So really yes, even your young self my young yet wow, 0:07:58.800 --> 0:07:59.440 love that. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:04.000 I I mean obviously, when I first started watching fourteen, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:05.200 I didn't relate. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.240 To any of you. I just didn't believe I was 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.960 seeing boobs on. 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:15.200 Hold totally crazy words totally. And you're in Utah too, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.440 so it's even more like you're in a very kind 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.400 of more conservative environment. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.040 Yeah. I was like, this is awesome. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:21.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, I. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.160 Made you want to get out, I'm sure right the moment. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.240 That I became sexually active, I was like, oh I 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.800 am samanthized it gets fantastic. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.839 That's great about it, that's so great. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.280 And then as you you get older, I developed an 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.080 appreciation for Miranda, where like I have to say. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:39.840 By the by the time. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.520 It was over, I was like, at this stage of 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.760 my life, even though I can say, like, I think 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.000 most women have a. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:52.200 Piece of each of you. Yeah, as a whole, I 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.439 think I'm mostly Miranda. I love that. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.640 That's super interesting. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.280 Yeah, wow wow. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.400 Well, let me say I've never seen vander Pump Rules, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:04.720 so I don't know. I don't have a lot of 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.400 preconceived notions about you. 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:07.360 Right, that's great. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.480 Yes, it's really nice though I have enough knowledge from 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:16.240 your podcast. Untraditionally, la Lah, because you are creating your 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.800 own life in the way that you want it, and 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.959 I am of the same thinking. I came from South Carolina, 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.400 which was very traditional, though my parents weren't really like 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.199 super preppy or anything like that. But I was surrounded 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.760 by you know, everyone talked about wanting to get married 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.640 and wanting to get engaged and blah blah blah, everybody blonde. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:33.839 You know what I'm saying, the whole thing. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.520 And I was an actress from a young age, so 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.080 I wanted to get out as soon as I could. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.600 I just wanted to go to New York, which I 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:43.000 eventually did. It took a while, but I wanted to, 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.079 you know, have a different life, a more adventurous life, 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:45.720 a different life. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.560 And I have absolutely had that. Yes, it's been fun. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.079 You've had a very fun life. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:50.360 I have. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.679 I have had a very fun and adventurous life. 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.800 How old were you when you left? I went to college. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.600 My dad was a college professor. So I wanted to 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.240 move directly to New York at eighteen, and he said no. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.960 And he was right because I was not yet sober. 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:05.960 And had I moved directly to New York in the 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:11.040 eighties not sober, it would have gone really badly. So 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.160 I'm so lucky that he said, no, you cannot do that, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:14.840 young lady. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:15.640 What on earth? 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:15.880 You know? 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.600 He was like, you must go to college. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.400 So I went to Rutgers because they had a BFA 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.880 acting program. Amazing, Yeah, and I could be close to 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.680 the city and go into sea plays, and you know, 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.559 I just wanted to be as close as I could 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.400 to the Broadway of it, all right, you know, And 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.320 I was, which was great, Which was great, It was 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.520 perfect because I did need that time to During that 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.040 time is when I realized that I needed to get 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:40.640 a hold of my my my abuse of alcohol, predominantly alcohol, 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.079 I mean other things about you. Yeah, I've been sober 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.280 so long that I don't talk about it all the time. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.920 But yeah, thank god, thank God for you. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:47.760 Yeah, thank you. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.480 I mean in common, Yeah, I know, I love that, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.840 And I don't know how I would have navigated. First 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.719 of all, New York in the late eighties was just insanity. 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.120 I mean, I remember I was kind of alone and 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.360 being sober. I wasn't really in a program at that time, 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:04.920 and I didn't know anyone who was sober except I 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.200 had a boyfriend who was sober. Oh great, yeah, so 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:08.840 we could be together in it. But I remember just 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:10.880 walking I had to walk. I had a waitressing job, 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:12.760 and I would walk home and I would walk by 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:15.960 the limelight like all the crazy clubs and just be like, oh, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:16.880 thank god, I'm not in there. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:18.120 I don't know what would happen to me. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.440 So you never felt triggered once you moved out. You 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.160 felt like you were strong in your sobriety when you 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.480 when you moved and were in that environment. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:28.480 You know, I did feel triggered for sure, but I 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.160 didn't ever fall, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.720 think largely because of John, my boyfriend, who was super sweet. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.840 He was in some ways like the police. You know, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:43.120 he'd been sober for a while, and he was very protective, 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:46.840 and I think he knew the dangers more than I 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.319 did in a way, you know, of like he'd been out. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.400 He was three or four years older than me at 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.760 the time. He'd already been out and you know, lived 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.480 life in the city and knew how crazy it could be. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.719 So he was very protective. And that helped me get 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.240 over the initial hump of like being out in the 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.640 crazy world and trying to be sober. But it was 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.319 lonely in the way of like my roommate was wild, 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:10.640 you know what I'm saying, Like there were all these 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:11.440 wild people. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:12.760 Around me, and I would just be like, no, I'm 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:13.120 just going. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.520 To stay home, right, keep your blinders on, you know, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.080 where you have business being and where you do not. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.120 And then I moved here in the nineties. Also insane. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.560 Oh cocaine. Oh, I can't even imagine. 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.280 Yeah, everywhere, cocaine everywhere, everywhere, Oh and everywhere. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.280 Part of my language I don't with that, right, No, No, 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:43.959 it's serious, it is serious. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:45.920 It's really not good. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.600 So I remember being at parties and seeing like dinner 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.120 plates with a Mountain. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.760 I would just be like, lovely, lovely. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.640 I know, the nineties here was woooo, there's a lot. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:57.640 It was a lot. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.920 And I do remember there were people in my life 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.439 who not not my Like I have a publicist I've 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.040 had for over thirty years, of a manager I've had 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:05.920 for thirty years. I mean, I've had like a really 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.199 great team. But there were other people that I meet 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:09.480 along the way and they'd be like, you've. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:10.240 Got to go out to parties. 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.160 I was like, whoever got a job from going to parties? 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:13.920 That's crazy. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.120 No one gets a job. And when you're sober, you 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.199 realize you're all in one big room talking about bullshit. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:20.000 Totally. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.600 It's actually quite insane, exactly. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.720 Like, there have been moments in my seven years and 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.880 some change where I've gone out to nightclubs and I'm 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.280 watching people and I'm like, do we all realize that 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.720 we're in like a concrete room just with music that's 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:35.520 way too loud? 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:36.040 Horrible? 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.240 I know, horrible. 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.120 No one realizes now, I know, well, because I think 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.760 you're really you just think that you have to do it, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.400 or you think you're supposed to do it, or you 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.839 think that that's how something meaningful is going to happen 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:47.320 in your life. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.000 I don't know why nothing ever, good guy. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.760 I agree you No, I agree, I agree totally. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:52.120 I agree. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.320 I worry for the young women who who do that 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:56.920 or feel like they need to do that. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:58.320 I guess I should say. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.160 Well, I think it's it's our job. You know, we're 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.640 in different lines of work. And you know, when I 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.160 first came out here, I wanted to be an actress 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.160 and you couldn't you if you signed up to do 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.559 reality TV? It was like a death wish for your career. 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.800 And now it has changed, Right, So we're in We're 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.440 both in entertainment. But I feel like it's our job 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.680 to take these platforms and spread the word on how 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:24.680 to go about this. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.360 Why are the red flags? 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.480 I agreet's not try to paint them green because we 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.720 love to do that, especially at a young age, right, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:39.480 And I feel like finally getting older is like an 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:45.240 empowering thing. Absolutely, it's something that women are embracing. It's 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.600 like your superpower, right, Definitely. I don't feel like it 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:49.720 was always looked at that way. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.080 No, of course, I think it was experienced that way, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.840 but I don't think that we had a way to 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.840 talk about it. I mean I am newly older relatively, 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.320 I mean it's also relative. Like when we started the show, 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.520 we were in our third right, which is so funny 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.600 now because like that's very young, and obviously you look 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.080 back at the show we look like little children to me, right, 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.160 But at the time, there was this whole freedom because 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.800 as an actress, once you were in your mid thirties, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:12.640 you were kind of done. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.040 You were on your way out, right. So it was 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:16.360 such an empowering thing. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.320 To get these parts because first of all, you didn't 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.920 have to lie about your age anymore, because depending on 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:22.560 whatever audition you went to, you had to lie and 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.600 say you were that age, right, And I remember just going, oh, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:27.320 thank god, I never have to lie about. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:27.720 My age again. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.520 Yay, because you know, like. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.800 These strong, powerful women in our thirties and we were 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:32.960 supposed to be in our thirties. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:34.160 That was the point, right. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.080 Don't you find it interesting though, because as. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:42.240 I go out and about and see people in their 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.520 around my age, it's actually we're still trying to figure 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.440 it out in our thirties, I know, whereas your guys' 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.680 personal lives may have been all over the place. But 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.160 like wonderful careers were happening on the show, you know 0:15:55.280 --> 0:16:00.800 Carrie with her column Miranda being this like incredible lawyer. Yeah, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.520 I don't feel like it's as much that way anymore. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.160 Maybe she's living in Los Angeles, But at that age, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.720 I think you were trying to figure out what we 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.400 want to do and be and c Yeah. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.120 I think a lot of that is because the world 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.080 has changed too. I think COVID really like everybody right, 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.360 like there was no because when when we were all 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.200 in like college age, right, I went to college. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.440 I don't think Kim went to college. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:28.680 I don't think Sarah went to college. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:29.920 Cynthia went to college. 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.160 And I think that you were kind of told that 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.960 there was a tract that you could be on, right, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.880 But we all wanted to be actors, so I went 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:36.680 to acting school. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.160 Does acting school help you? 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.840 No? No, not to school. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.120 It's true, Well I did, and I'm it helped me 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.120 develop as a human being, right experience, But it doesn't 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.000 help you in your career at all, at all. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:52.600 At all. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.440 I need to really reiterate that. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:55.440