1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte. Tell me what you were telling me 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: before about how you have watched the show or which parts. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: So I used to watch like random episodes with my 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 2: best friend in the seventh grade. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if we had any. 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: Business watching Sex in the City in the seventh grade, 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: but we would do it. We would steal her mom's car, 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: go to this place called Cafe Training, get takeout Chinese 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: food in Utah, in Utah, Oh my gosh, wow, come 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: back to her house and just like whatever was playing, 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: I guess it. 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know when they would. 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Do I don't know what this is, probably when it 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: was on e right like like it did it have 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: the bad words and stuff taken out? 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 3: No? Oh, okay o, we will in it. Wow. 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: So recently, I want to say, maybe like five six 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: months ago, I was like, you know what I'm gonna do. 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start Sex in the City from start to finish. 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: I am obsessed. When I was asked this podcast, I 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: was so intimidated. 23 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, I was like taking notes on the episode. 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: That's endorable. I can't wait to hear your thoughts. 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: So when you so so so. 26 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 4: Have you seen the whole thing yet? 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: I have seen so how many seasons were this there's 28 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: six seasons, yes, season one through six. I watched all 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: of that, okay, and then I had seen the movies. 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: So now what I've been told because I was posting 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 2: throughout as I was watching got it being like I 32 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: just started this show is amazing. Everyone's like, this is 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: crazy that you, of all people have never seen it. 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: That's true. 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: It is a little crazy, right right, yeah, yeah, yeah. 36 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm all about sex and I'm all about it being 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: in the city, and so now I'm going to go 38 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: back and watch the movies even though I've seen that. 39 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: Right, and We'll start and just like post exactly post school. 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. I love it. 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: So what I mean, I wish I had been following 42 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: along as you were posting, but I have you in person, 43 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: so I should just hear in person. So obviously everyone 44 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: tells me, and I'm rewatching it now for the first time, right, Like, 45 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: I saw each episode as we were going, and sometimes 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: it would be rough, it wouldn't be finished, like there 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: would be music missing, or there would be a visual 48 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: effects missing or things like that, Right, but we were 49 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: always really anxious to see you know, we would at 50 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: least I remember us being in Sir Jusca said she 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: didn't watch. 52 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: All of it, but I feel like she did. 53 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about it, but that was 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: obviously a very long time ago. But we would run home, 55 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: we would get VHS from HBO and before it aired, yeah, 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: and go run home and watch it because we were 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, we were so in in it, in it 58 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: and of it, like everything was exciting, you know, of course. 59 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 60 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: And then I didn't ever like to rewatch it when 61 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: it was on E or on the different you know, 62 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: versions of what it was on, because it seemed like 63 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: I would get stuck in the past, like I didn't 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: want to just sit and think about it. And I 65 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: would just walk by and be like, oh, look at 66 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: where still we look. 67 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 4: So young, you know, and just keep going. You know 68 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 69 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you were critical? 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: Well? 71 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I definitely am critical, but probably more critical when I 72 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 1: would first watch it, Okay, and that has gotten better 73 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: with time, right, because now it is thirty almost thirty 74 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: years later. 75 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: Wow, this is insane. 76 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: There's nothing I can do now about my performance, right, nope, 77 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: it's off my shoulders. Like, for instance, there is a 78 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: scene in this episode. I have rewatched this episode twice now, Oh, 79 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: I should tell everybody we are rewatching Easy Come, Easy Go, 80 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: which I have to say is one of the best. 81 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: It's good episodes. Oh my gosh, so much happens. It's 82 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: season three and it's when I get engaged. So when 83 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Kyle Kyle recently came on and we discussed, so I 84 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: had watched all kind of the highlights of the Tray relationship, 85 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: but then I rewatched it this morning before I was 86 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: going to see you, because it's just such a great 87 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: episode and. 88 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: So much happens. Yeah, so much happens. 89 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: But there is a scene in this episode, and I 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: remember at the time also feeling like I didn't do 91 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: it well. 92 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: And then when I. 93 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Watched it for Kyle, I also thought I didn't do 94 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: it well. 95 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 4: And then this third time watching I was like, no. 96 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: It's fine, like I actually crushed it. I don't know 97 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: if I crushed it. 98 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: I never think that way, right, But the scene when 99 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: I go to. 100 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Tell Carry about the engagement, yeah, I don't love my 101 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: performance then, And I have a very very visceral memory 102 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: of what it was like on the set that day 103 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: because everyone had When I say everyone, I mean behind 104 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: the camera, right. Like it was directed by Charles McDougal, 105 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: so one of my favorite directors, and Charles is a 106 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: great director because he doesn't really micromanage. But the way 107 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: that our show was, our writers were very, very involved 108 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: and they were always there. So Michael Patrick King wrote 109 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: our episode. He's one of our executive producers. We love 110 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: him very much. But also we had a bunch of 111 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: women writers and they would all be there, like if 112 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: it was a big scene, everybody would be there and 113 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: everyone would basically tell you what they wanted you to do, 114 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: especially back then, like now I would be like, okay, guys, 115 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: that's enough, Like let me. 116 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 4: Just do it right exactly. 117 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: But back then, this. 118 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: Was really Charlotte's first big storyline, you know, and like 119 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: with a lot going on over many episodes, and in 120 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: this beginning with Trey, we were really laying the groundwork 121 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: of what was going to happened between me and him. Right, 122 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: So the whole idea that she's been wanting this proposal, 123 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: wanting this proposal. One in this proposal and then she 124 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: kind of blows it by basically proposing to herself. They 125 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: wanted me to just be like I don't think they 126 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: wanted me to be tearful, but they just wanted me 127 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: to be in shock. So I'm trying to play shock 128 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: through an entire scene, which is very hard, like possibly impossible, 129 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 130 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: It's really interesting to hear your perspective on that, because 131 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: that's actually one of my favorite parts, where you're at 132 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: the door and you walk in and it's you're just 133 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: like in a fog and you can tell that. Here's 134 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: what I love about the entire show is, as I've 135 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: gotten older, I see myself at the age of thirty 136 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: five in each of you. There was for such a 137 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: long time it was like which one are you? Yes, 138 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: the wind blew the wrong way for Charlotte and she 139 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 2: doesn't do well with that. No, she has she how 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: she wants something to go yes, and that's very much me. 141 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: So when she wanted it so badly at that dinner 142 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: and then you're just at Carrie's door. 143 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: I loved it, you did. 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: I loved it so good because I felt like there 145 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: was so much going on in your head that you're 146 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: still trying to process, Like I was upset. 147 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: Oh my god, that. 148 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Makes me so because really, you can never be objective 149 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: about yourself. Really, I'm saying, you just know what you 150 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 1: were trying to do, and you know what everyone's telling 151 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: you to do, and you see the work like I 152 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: can see myself like trying to do what they were 153 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: telling me to do, rather than just kind of breathing 154 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: and living. But she is just kind of processing, You're right, 155 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: which is which is stuck In a way. I felt 156 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: like what their direction was at the time was a 157 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: little bit stuck. Like they can get an idea, writers 158 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: especially can get an idea, but it's. 159 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 4: Hard to act an idea. 160 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: You have to really go with what's happening. 161 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, of course. 162 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: But Charlotte is very in her head, you know, like 163 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: in general right as like you said, the kind of 164 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: vision of what she wants, right or what she's expecting, 165 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: and then life doesn't live up to it, which of 166 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: course it wouldn't. How could it possibly, you know what 167 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean? No one can read your mind, right, No, 168 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: she's like a big thing, a big thing with Charlotte 169 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: for forever, really, you know, you know, yes, her vision 170 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: versus reality. 171 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: Versus reality and that's what I loved about it. And 172 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: I loved when you were at lunch meeting Trey's mom 173 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: for the first time and you were clocking little things like. 174 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: How I like that. 175 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: I like that? 176 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 177 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: I just find Charlotte to be so sweet and interesting, 178 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: and I relate to that. As I get older and 179 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: have more experiences with different types. 180 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: Of men, Yeah yeah, yeah. 181 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 4: Who did you used to relate to? 182 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: I used to feel like I was just a Samantha, 183 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: like very much. 184 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: So really yes, even your young self my young yet wow, 185 00:07:58,800 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: love that. 186 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: I I mean obviously, when I first started watching fourteen, 187 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: I didn't relate. 188 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: To any of you. I just didn't believe I was 189 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: seeing boobs on. 190 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: Hold totally crazy words totally. And you're in Utah too, 191 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: so it's even more like you're in a very kind 192 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: of more conservative environment. 193 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, this is awesome. 194 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I. 195 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Made you want to get out, I'm sure right the moment. 196 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: That I became sexually active, I was like, oh I 197 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: am samanthized it gets fantastic. 198 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 3: That's great about it, that's so great. 199 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: And then as you you get older, I developed an 200 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: appreciation for Miranda, where like I have to say. 201 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: By the by the time. 202 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: It was over, I was like, at this stage of 203 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: my life, even though I can say, like, I think 204 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: most women have a. 205 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: Piece of each of you. Yeah, as a whole, I 206 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: think I'm mostly Miranda. I love that. 207 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: That's super interesting. 208 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow wow. 209 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: Well, let me say I've never seen vander Pump Rules, 210 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I don't have a lot of 211 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: preconceived notions about you. 212 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: Right, that's great. 213 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: Yes, it's really nice though I have enough knowledge from 214 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: your podcast. Untraditionally, la Lah, because you are creating your 215 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: own life in the way that you want it, and 216 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: I am of the same thinking. I came from South Carolina, 217 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: which was very traditional, though my parents weren't really like 218 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: super preppy or anything like that. But I was surrounded 219 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: by you know, everyone talked about wanting to get married 220 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: and wanting to get engaged and blah blah blah, everybody blonde. 221 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, the whole thing. 222 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: And I was an actress from a young age, so 223 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to get out as soon as I could. 224 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to go to New York, which I 225 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: eventually did. It took a while, but I wanted to, 226 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: you know, have a different life, a more adventurous life, 227 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: a different life. 228 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: And I have absolutely had that. Yes, it's been fun. 229 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: You've had a very fun life. 230 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: I have. 231 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 4: I have had a very fun and adventurous life. 232 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: How old were you when you left? I went to college. 233 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: My dad was a college professor. So I wanted to 234 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: move directly to New York at eighteen, and he said no. 235 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: And he was right because I was not yet sober. 236 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: And had I moved directly to New York in the 237 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: eighties not sober, it would have gone really badly. So 238 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm so lucky that he said, no, you cannot do that, 239 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: young lady. 240 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 4: What on earth? 241 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: You know? 242 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 4: He was like, you must go to college. 243 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: So I went to Rutgers because they had a BFA 244 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: acting program. Amazing, Yeah, and I could be close to 245 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: the city and go into sea plays, and you know, 246 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be as close as I could 247 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: to the Broadway of it, all right, you know, And 248 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: I was, which was great, Which was great, It was 249 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: perfect because I did need that time to During that 250 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: time is when I realized that I needed to get 251 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: a hold of my my my abuse of alcohol, predominantly alcohol, 252 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: I mean other things about you. Yeah, I've been sober 253 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: so long that I don't talk about it all the time. 254 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, thank god, thank God for you. 255 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. 256 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean in common, Yeah, I know, I love that, 257 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know how I would have navigated. First 258 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: of all, New York in the late eighties was just insanity. 259 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember I was kind of alone and 260 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: being sober. I wasn't really in a program at that time, 261 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: and I didn't know anyone who was sober except I 262 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: had a boyfriend who was sober. Oh great, yeah, so 263 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: we could be together in it. But I remember just 264 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: walking I had to walk. I had a waitressing job, 265 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: and I would walk home and I would walk by 266 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: the limelight like all the crazy clubs and just be like, oh, 267 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: thank god, I'm not in there. 268 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: I don't know what would happen to me. 269 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: So you never felt triggered once you moved out. You 270 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: felt like you were strong in your sobriety when you 271 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: when you moved and were in that environment. 272 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, I did feel triggered for sure, but I 273 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: didn't ever fall, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I 274 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: think largely because of John, my boyfriend, who was super sweet. 275 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: He was in some ways like the police. You know, 276 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: he'd been sober for a while, and he was very protective, 277 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: and I think he knew the dangers more than I 278 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: did in a way, you know, of like he'd been out. 279 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: He was three or four years older than me at 280 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: the time. He'd already been out and you know, lived 281 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: life in the city and knew how crazy it could be. 282 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: So he was very protective. And that helped me get 283 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: over the initial hump of like being out in the 284 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: crazy world and trying to be sober. But it was 285 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: lonely in the way of like my roommate was wild, 286 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like there were all these 287 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: wild people. 288 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: Around me, and I would just be like, no, I'm 289 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: just going. 290 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: To stay home, right, keep your blinders on, you know, 291 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: where you have business being and where you do not. 292 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: And then I moved here in the nineties. Also insane. 293 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh cocaine. Oh, I can't even imagine. 294 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, everywhere, cocaine everywhere, everywhere, Oh and everywhere. 295 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: Part of my language I don't with that, right, No, No, 296 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 2: it's serious, it is serious. 297 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: It's really not good. 298 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: So I remember being at parties and seeing like dinner 299 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: plates with a Mountain. 300 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: I would just be like, lovely, lovely. 301 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I know, the nineties here was woooo, there's a lot. 302 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: It was a lot. 303 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: And I do remember there were people in my life 304 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: who not not my Like I have a publicist I've 305 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: had for over thirty years, of a manager I've had 306 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: for thirty years. I mean, I've had like a really 307 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: great team. But there were other people that I meet 308 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: along the way and they'd be like, you've. 309 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 4: Got to go out to parties. 310 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I was like, whoever got a job from going to parties? 311 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 312 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: No one gets a job. And when you're sober, you 313 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 2: realize you're all in one big room talking about bullshit. 314 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: Totally. 315 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: It's actually quite insane, exactly. 316 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: Like, there have been moments in my seven years and 317 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: some change where I've gone out to nightclubs and I'm 318 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: watching people and I'm like, do we all realize that 319 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: we're in like a concrete room just with music that's 320 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: way too loud? 321 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: Horrible? 322 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: I know, horrible. 323 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: No one realizes now, I know, well, because I think 324 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: you're really you just think that you have to do it, 325 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: or you think you're supposed to do it, or you 326 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: think that that's how something meaningful is going to happen 327 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: in your life. 328 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 3: I don't know why nothing ever, good guy. 329 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I agree you No, I agree, I agree totally. 330 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: I agree. 331 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: I worry for the young women who who do that 332 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: or feel like they need to do that. 333 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 4: I guess I should say. 334 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's it's our job. You know, we're 335 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: in different lines of work. And you know, when I 336 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: first came out here, I wanted to be an actress 337 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: and you couldn't you if you signed up to do 338 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: reality TV? It was like a death wish for your career. 339 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: And now it has changed, Right, So we're in We're 340 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: both in entertainment. But I feel like it's our job 341 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: to take these platforms and spread the word on how 342 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: to go about this. 343 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: Why are the red flags? 344 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: I agreet's not try to paint them green because we 345 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: love to do that, especially at a young age, right, 346 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: And I feel like finally getting older is like an 347 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: empowering thing. Absolutely, it's something that women are embracing. It's 348 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: like your superpower, right, Definitely. I don't feel like it 349 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: was always looked at that way. 350 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: No, of course, I think it was experienced that way, 351 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: but I don't think that we had a way to 352 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: talk about it. I mean I am newly older relatively, 353 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I mean it's also relative. Like when we started the show, 354 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: we were in our third right, which is so funny 355 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: now because like that's very young, and obviously you look 356 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: back at the show we look like little children to me, right, 357 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: But at the time, there was this whole freedom because 358 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: as an actress, once you were in your mid thirties, 359 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: you were kind of done. 360 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: You were on your way out, right. So it was 361 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: such an empowering thing. 362 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: To get these parts because first of all, you didn't 363 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: have to lie about your age anymore, because depending on 364 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: whatever audition you went to, you had to lie and 365 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: say you were that age, right, And I remember just going, oh, 366 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: thank god, I never have to lie about. 367 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: My age again. 368 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: Yay, because you know, like. 369 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: These strong, powerful women in our thirties and we were 370 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be in our thirties. 371 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: That was the point, right. 372 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: Don't you find it interesting though, because as. 373 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: I go out and about and see people in their 374 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: around my age, it's actually we're still trying to figure 375 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: it out in our thirties, I know, whereas your guys' 376 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: personal lives may have been all over the place. But 377 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: like wonderful careers were happening on the show, you know 378 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 2: Carrie with her column Miranda being this like incredible lawyer. Yeah, 379 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's as much that way anymore. 380 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: Maybe she's living in Los Angeles, But at that age, 381 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: I think you were trying to figure out what we 382 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: want to do and be and c Yeah. 383 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is because the world 384 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: has changed too. I think COVID really like everybody right, 385 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: like there was no because when when we were all 386 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: in like college age, right, I went to college. 387 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: I don't think Kim went to college. 388 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't think Sarah went to college. 389 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: Cynthia went to college. 390 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: And I think that you were kind of told that 391 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: there was a tract that you could be on, right, 392 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: But we all wanted to be actors, so I went 393 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: to acting school. 394 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: Does acting school help you? 395 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: No? No, not to school. 396 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: It's true, Well I did, and I'm it helped me 397 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: develop as a human being, right experience, But it doesn't 398 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: help you in your career at all, at all. 399 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: At all. 400 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 4: I need to really reiterate that. 401 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: I think it's. 402 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: Great, like if you love theater and you love acting 403 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: and you want to enjoy yourself in college. Also, just 404 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: get a BA and make sure you get a like 405 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: a more well rounded education, right, which I didn't really 406 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: care about. 407 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: I didn't do that. I didn't care and I'm not 408 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: saying I regret it. I'm happy with my choice. 409 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: But I just think that you you, in some young way, 410 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: you believe that it's going to matter that you have 411 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: this degree. Nobody cares if you have a degree. 412 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: Isn't that because so many people, so many of my friends, 413 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: I always had this mindset. I remember my counselor calling 414 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: me in and being like, we need you to take 415 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: what is it an sat Yes, when are you going 416 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 2: to be doing that? Oh, very intense school and I'm 417 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: moving to LA and I'm going to be famous. And 418 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: they were like a very small percentage of people, right. 419 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 3: But happy, Hey, yay La La. 420 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, well, it looks like I'll be 421 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: part of it, and like I never did that. But 422 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: all of my friends went off and did college and 423 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 2: most of them are in debt. 424 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: They don't use their degree for anything. 425 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: Right, So if there is one thing I knew what 426 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to do, and that's great. 427 00:17:58,720 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: Nothing was going to stop that. 428 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 4: Amazing. 429 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this episode, So this episode in 430 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: my mind. So my favorite season is season three, Okay, 431 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: this season that we're in. And part of the reason 432 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: I think that my favorite season is season three is 433 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: when I watch these episodes, all the storylines are just 434 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: great and they're all intertwined in ways that are interesting 435 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: and more in depth in a way than in the beginning. Like, 436 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I think it took us some time to find our 437 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: legs in terms of like the writing and how to 438 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: get everything in. But also everyone's storyline is great and different, right, 439 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and it took a lot of work on a writer's 440 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: part to get to that. And also so much happens 441 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: in such a short amount of time. 442 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: I know, it's amazing. 443 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: It's amazing. 444 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: Every time I watched it, I'm like, wow, Wow, we 445 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: were so good. 446 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: I mean I thought it was good at the time. 447 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: And I loved it, right, but like in retrospect, I'm 448 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: much more able to see the how hard the actual 449 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: mechanics were totally you know, and have full full appreciation 450 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: for it. 451 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the show stands the test of time, 452 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: which is I think very hard to do. 453 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: One hundred percent because there's so many shows out there, right, 454 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: and you're basically competing with all of them over the 455 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: test of time, right, Yeah, And it's the hugest compliment 456 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: in the world that people still love it and still 457 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: come up to me and still are discovering it, which 458 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: is like, I mean, who would have ever thought, we never, 459 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: never would have dreamt any of this. 460 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: That's got to feel really amazing. It does, it doesn't. 461 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there's so much luck that plays into it, 462 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: but also there's so much hard work in terms of 463 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: getting to the point and getting the job, but then 464 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: also doing the job because it was. 465 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 4: Like my entire life. 466 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: Yes, like, there's no like once it really succeeds, which 467 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: is third season. Third season is when we shockingly got 468 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: nominated for an Emmy for the first time and we 469 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: never thought that would happen. And then once the award 470 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: thing started, that was in our off season, right, So 471 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: we'd go to work in February and then the Golden 472 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: Globes would be in march's January. So it was just 473 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: like year round and saying like you had little breaks 474 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: but not really and then you were doing press to 475 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: try to you know, it was it was a lot. 476 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: It was a lot. I feel so much fun. 477 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: It was fun. It was work, but it was fun 478 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: for sure. But also like, there are things I think 479 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: back in terms of my personal life and I'm like, 480 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: oh my god, how did anyone put up with me? 481 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: Like I don't think I talked about it anything else? 482 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 4: Really could you? 483 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: When that's your life? Right, When that's your life, how 484 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: do you? That's what you go and do when you 485 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: meet people, you talk about what your world is like, 486 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: and when that is your every single day, and anyone 487 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: you're communicating outside of that person are also a part 488 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: of business. 489 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: That's who you're talking to. 490 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the timing at that point in time was 491 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: probably just off. You weren't I don't know when you 492 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: met your person or. 493 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: I don't know your person. But adopted, Oh you adopted 494 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: your baby? Yes, yes, yes, oh see you did it 495 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: the right way from the job. You did it the 496 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: right way from the That's so sweet. Thank you. Damn, 497 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm so jealous. I'm sorry. 498 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: I mean, look great, it happens the way it happens, right, 499 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: it happens. 500 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens. Okay, So this the whole theme of 501 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: this episode is exactly kind of what you're talking about, 502 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: which is about following your heart. Or your mind, which 503 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: is such a huge question every day forever. I think, 504 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, yes. 505 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: And oh my gosh, when when Carrie ends up in 506 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: bed with Big Yeah, and you have like the perfect 507 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: guy right in front of you, but the heart just 508 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: wants what it wants, I know, and am at some 509 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: point you always give in and it's like the forbidden fruit. 510 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: I have been in relationships where I'm like, if. 511 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm so happy with this person, but if you were 512 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: to drop this specific person in front of me, I 513 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: would forget all about this, even though this is so 514 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: right for me, because my heart just knows and my 515 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: vagina knows what it wants. 516 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting thing, like I don't know 517 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: because I have never been married, right, I've never been 518 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: really I've been really committed to people. But if I'm 519 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: really in love, I don't you could drop anybody in 520 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: front of me. It doesn't matter, do you know what 521 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying? And so my question when I watch this 522 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: and I again, you see it at different times and 523 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: think about it, you know, you think different things when 524 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: you're rewatching it. Right, Like the first time I rewatched 525 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: this episode, I thought, oh my god, she's so stupid. 526 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Carrie's so stupid, right, But then this time I watched 527 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: it and I was like, you can tell that the 528 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: aiden relationship is not right for her. 529 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: No, it's certainly not right for her. 530 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: So that, to me, that's a symptom of that that 531 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: than big big is unfinished, right, Like we all know 532 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: what that's like. 533 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: Now, I'm not saying it's right. 534 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's right, and I don't think it's 535 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: right or good for her, but I understand why she 536 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: does it because it's undone. You know, it's not complete, right, 537 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: and we all we all know. 538 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: Obviously what happens. 539 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 2: But at this point in time, what I am thinking 540 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: is that we can say it doesn't feel complete, and 541 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: I think there's a very small percent chance that you 542 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: end up like being with the person who's. 543 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: So tight it No, of course right, but it's. 544 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: Like you become addicted to the super high highs. 545 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: And then the super low. 546 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: Like, but that's horrible for you, it's so for everyone. 547 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I like to think about it as hitting a vape. 548 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: It is, it is. It's full addiction. 549 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're right, You're that's a good way 550 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: to put it. That's a good way to put it. 551 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: And I think this time when I rewatched it number one, 552 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Aiden and I'm like, why doesn't he 553 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: understand stand that she like this is you know, like 554 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: it's nice what he wants to do, but also he's 555 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: kind of oblivious to her, right, Like he says, I 556 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: want to redo your floors. You're not going to know 557 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 1: I'm here. And she's like, he's said the floor, so 558 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: he's got plastic up. Let me know, I work from 559 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: home exactly. So like he's somewhat not connected to her. 560 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, he's not really getting her 561 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: in a way, right, which is I think true the 562 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: whole time that he doesn't really get her. And that's 563 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: what's interesting about him is he's different and different than 564 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: Big obviously, but also different than Carrie, right, And that's interesting. 565 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: But does that really does he? Are they super connected 566 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: or do they just have great chemistry? Like not that 567 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: different from Big, right, Like I look at the chemistry factor. 568 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: I think Aiden came in at the right time. 569 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: Yes, it's all timing. 570 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: I usually all am like pro chick, But how could 571 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: Aiden get to a place where he knows her when 572 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: she does have such a wall up. She's not even 573 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: acting like herself. She's a very vision of herself that 574 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: that I feel is almost like a shell of hers. 575 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: I agree, she's not giving her full self. 576 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: She's so right. 577 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: She's the big in the relationship, She's the withholding and like, 578 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: she doesn't even tell him about Big. She was like, 579 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: Big says, like, you know, she said he doesn't know 580 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: about you, and I don't want it to And Big says, 581 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: why that's like the I mean, sometimes Big frustrates me, obviously, 582 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: but like sometimes I'm like, yeah, why Carrie, why wouldn't 583 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 1: you tell this new relationship about your past relationship? 584 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: It was pretty recent. So you're right, she's got a 585 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: wall when. 586 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: You open up the whole can. 587 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: And if she were to tell Aiden about Big, it 588 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: would be a venting session and her being confused and 589 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: right then. 590 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: He would know that is not finished. Sure very much. 591 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: You're so right. Yeah, that is so right. 592 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: And on one hand, she's smart that she feels that 593 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: and doesn't do it. But on the other hand, how 594 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: could she actually expect it to work with Aiden if 595 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: she's got the wall? 596 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 4: You know, right, she seems to. 597 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: Always want to be in some sort of relationship to 598 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: distract her from big Yeah, it's true. 599 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: And that part I do not relate to no because. 600 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Anytime, and I haven't had a lot of moments where 601 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, I really really like this person. I can 602 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: think of maybe two in my life, yeah, and like, 603 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 2: and one of them is not even the father of 604 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: my child, like at all. 605 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: Wow, But I. 606 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: Can think of two, and the moment that those don't 607 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: work out, I cannot even bring myself to go out 608 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: and meet someone else because I just want to be 609 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: by myself and I want to retreat and focus on 610 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: myself and what is good? Why am I attracting this 611 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: type of person, yes, who wants to like give you 612 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: all of this love and be present, and then all 613 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: of the sudden they're like gone off the face of 614 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: the earth. You better be dead in a ditch, because 615 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 2: that's the only way I'm going to be cool with you. 616 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: Disappearing yikes. 617 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 4: Disappearing is horrible. 618 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Shame on whoever you guys are, shame on them bad. Yes, 619 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: disappearing is horrible, horrible. 620 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: Like after a few text messages, disappear, but you can't 621 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: go out with me, meet my friends, you know, be 622 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 2: intimate and sleep together and then everything be normal and 623 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: then literally overnight go mi. 624 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: I a so with Carrie, though, I find that. 625 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: She you mean, she's like that you're saying. 626 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: Fininding that when something goes south with someone, she's ready 627 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: to go out. 628 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: She's the easiest way to get over someone is to 629 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 3: get under someone. 630 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: Else, feeling definitely, which we I think we actually have 631 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: a whole episode about. But also Carrie is not Carrie 632 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: is interesting in that she's got her column where she's 633 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: really thinking about, you know, relationships and people in New 634 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: York and what's going on. But she doesn't have a 635 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: lot of personal introspection right right. Her introspection is about 636 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: like relationships in general and what about this question is 637 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: kind of intellectual. 638 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: Rather than why am I doing this? 639 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: You know, Like like when she's re listening to that 640 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: voicemail and Miranda's over there, that was so entertaining to me. 641 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: Because it's like they're in high school. 642 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: It mean a lot of licorice. By the way, I 643 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 3: was like, that looks like totally right. 644 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: It's very it's a very high school moment. But I 645 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: think it's also very like we all that all relationships 646 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: I do think do that to you potentially, right, Like 647 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: you're so suddenly in grade school or whatever. 648 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you are and you have 649 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: to have a third party come in, which is what 650 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 2: I love When Miranda's like, we could listen to this. 651 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: And we will never know what it means. 652 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: I know, I know. 653 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: So we have all been a carry in that moment, 654 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 2: and we've all been the Miranda in that moment. 655 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: It's true, but it's important to have that Miranda voice. 656 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: I have the Miranda voice in my head right who 657 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: can be like, why are you even trying to analyze this? 658 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: You will never know you'll no'll never understand this younger man. 659 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: They make no sense, you know what I'm saying. 660 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: No one makes a nice No one. 661 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: Makes any sense. No, no. But that's what I love 662 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: about Carrie is that she is trying to figure everyone 663 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: else out, but not always herself. But she also tries, 664 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: but then like her feelings I think are too strong, 665 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting because she also has, you know, 666 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of the facade of like I'm cool, you know 667 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. 668 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: She's like, you know, but she's not. 669 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: She's got a lot of swags she puts on, yes, 670 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 2: you know, I have this friend, which you should and 671 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm blinking on her lite. I always say I have 672 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: this friend and then I'm like, what the hell is 673 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: their last time? They don't have to say, so it 674 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 2: be she thinks Carrie, I have this friend who is 675 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: obsessed with sex in the city, and she has always 676 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: said that, even before I watch that Carrie's a narcissist. 677 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: A lot of people say this, and we discuss this 678 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: because Sir Jessica does not like this, and we discussed 679 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: this sometimes in life, and there was a time of 680 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: COVID where this became a big thing on Instagram and 681 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: TikTok and whatever, and there's some very funny videos about it. 682 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I have to say, but I personally do not think 683 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: this is true. For a couple of reasons. They say 684 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: that she's a bad friend, and I don't find that 685 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: to be true at all. 686 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 3: I don't find that to be true at all either. 687 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: No, but I also think that the way that the 688 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: show is structured, and people don't necessarily realize this, and 689 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: why should they write they're just watching the show and 690 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: enjoying the show. But the way the show is structured, 691 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: she's our entree into the world, right, She's our leading character. 692 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: We're hearing her thoughts and her voice, her voice over. 693 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're seeing her writing, right, so of course 694 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: we're hearing her thoughts. If we were in your head 695 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: hearing your thoughts, we would also think you're a narcissist 696 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: if we were in Hannah's head hearing her thoughts or 697 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Eastern's head, Because you're in your own head, right, why 698 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: would your thoughts not be about you and the people 699 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: around you. It's it's just the basic conceit of the show, right, 700 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: that we are in Carrie's head. That's my answer to it, 701 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: because to me, she's a great friend. I mean, look, 702 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: she's you know what I. 703 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 4: Mean, don't. 704 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: I don't who's a perfect friend? Nobody, right, But like 705 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: she's there for these friends. 706 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: I don't think I could categorize any of you as 707 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 2: bad friends. 708 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: That's the beauty of the show, is a group of. 709 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: Women navigating their lives and always coming back to get 710 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: the other. Yes, and maybe I need to watch it again, 711 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: but I do not think that Carrie is a narcissist. 712 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: No, me neither. 713 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: And I've dealt with a many of those. 714 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean mostly mostly I've dealt with male narcissists, right, 715 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: which looks different? Do you know what I'm saying, than 716 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: female narcissists. But also I have known female narcissists, and 717 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: they Carrie is not one at all, at all, at all. 718 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think like there's a time early on 719 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think it's first season where she 720 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: stands Miranda up for Big. 721 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 3: That's not good obviously. 722 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: But Miranda gets really mad and they like have a fight. 723 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 724 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: I don't think Miranda would have ben is mad if 725 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: Big wasn't a piece of shit. Well, of course, of 726 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: course why she was mad? No, of course we are 727 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: sitting somewhere, yes. 728 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you're s and this is before everyone 729 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: had the cell phones, like Carrie's still running to the 730 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: phone booth, right right, so you're sitting somewhere by yourself, 731 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: of course, and Miranda's mad. 732 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 4: I totally get it, and BIG's a jerk. I totally 733 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: get both. 734 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: Sides, right, But who hasn't fucked up everybody exactly, you 735 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean? And also, I mean, you know 736 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: they're I was going to say they're kind of young 737 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: the time, but whatever, you know, like when you watch 738 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, we do seem really young. 739 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: But I also think some of that is the world. 740 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: Like, you know, we didn't have dating apps, we didn't 741 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: have you know, cell phones and texting everybody all the time. 742 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It was like a different world. 743 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: Right in a different game, saying I'm going with Big 744 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: to get his big, right, you know, and she's least. 745 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: I know. I can call another friend exactly, or I 746 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: can go home. I'm here by myself and exactly find me. 747 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: A cute big. 748 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: You guys, this is so much fun that we're going 749 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: to have to have a part two, so join us 750 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: later in the week on are You a Charlotte The 751 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: Pass