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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 1: I am John Schmelk at eventful week here at the

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Speaker 1: Quest Diagnostics Performance Center and a big show.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Mike Kafka's first one on one interview

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Speaker 1: with the voice of the Giants, Bob Papa. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: come up last on our show. We're gonna have Billy Schmid,

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Speaker 1: he's the postgame host on the radio for the Packers

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Speaker 1: Radio Network, will break down Green Bay and preview them.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna lead things off like we do every

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Speaker 1: week with our player interview. This week, I want to

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Speaker 1: talk to an offensive veteran that could talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the changes at head coach, some of the changes

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Speaker 1: on offense and everything else that's happening with Mike Kafka

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Speaker 1: being named the Giants interim head coach. Here's my interview

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Speaker 1: with Devin Singletary and we are joined by Giants running

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Speaker 1: back Devin Motor. Singletary, Devin, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: Living a dream? How you doing doing?

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Speaker 1: All right? All right, well, let's start here. It's been

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Speaker 1: an eventful week in the building. How'd you find out

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Speaker 1: and what was your reaction when you did that? The

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Speaker 1: team was moving on from coach table.

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Speaker 5: Man found out from Dapes kind of was you know,

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Speaker 5: he was making his rounds. You know, he stopped by

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Speaker 5: the locker room.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was tough. It was tough.

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Speaker 5: Got a lot of love for Deeps, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: we put it on the line for Deeps. But you know,

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Speaker 5: now we got Calf. He's coming in a lot of

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Speaker 5: great energy, great leader. So you know we're all rocking.

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Speaker 5: We're rocking with him. We're behind him one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're gonna talk about Calf in a second,

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Speaker 1: but just one on on Daves. You've been with him

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Speaker 1: a long time back in Buffalo here. He's one of

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Speaker 1: the guys that helped bring you here, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I gotta imagine for someone like you, this has got

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Speaker 1: to be especially tough given the level of respect I

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Speaker 1: know you have for him as a leader of men

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Speaker 1: as is an offensive mind.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, definitely. You know Daves is you know, he's legit.

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Speaker 5: He's been legit in his league for a while. Like

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Speaker 5: you said, I learned a lot from over the years,

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Speaker 5: spent a lot of time with him, you know, but

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Speaker 5: you know, it's the nature of the business.

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Speaker 3: It comes with it. It's definitely been tough though.

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Speaker 1: I know burns In and Deck said this during the

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Speaker 1: course of the week, and I wonder if you feel

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Speaker 1: the same way that In some ways, do you feel

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Speaker 1: that if the players could have done a little bit more,

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Speaker 1: pulled out a couple of those close games, that maybe

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Speaker 1: this might not have happened.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would agree with that. You know,

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Speaker 5: we definitely we win some of them games. It looks different,

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Speaker 5: It looks a little different today for sure.

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Speaker 1: All Right, talk about Mike Kafka. You've been around him

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Speaker 1: since you've been here. What what is he like as

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Speaker 1: a guy, what does he like as a coach, and

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Speaker 1: how does he think about offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Man, pretty he is great for a guy. You know

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Speaker 5: his ball, he played the game, yep, you know, so

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Speaker 5: he could see it through our lenses, and you know

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Speaker 5: as a coach, and he just brings a lot of juice.

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Speaker 5: He's the same person every day. So man, you got

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Speaker 5: to respect and love that.

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Speaker 1: What difference does it make when the guy did play

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Speaker 1: because I noticed you, like, we're atty way to bring

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Speaker 1: that up. What difference does it make when when the

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Speaker 1: guy does have the type of experience he has being

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Speaker 1: a former NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it makes a It makes a difference

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Speaker 5: just because he can see certain things from our eyes,

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Speaker 5: not just from you know, a coaching point of view,

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Speaker 5: like because he literally he's been in our shoes, he

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Speaker 5: it's just a different lance, you know, when when a coach,

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Speaker 5: when he becomes a coach, and seeing it from that way.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been warning fans this week, like, don't

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Speaker 1: expect a lot of changes here. I mean, like you

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Speaker 1: guys find out you'll get one day off and then

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Speaker 1: you're here on Wednesday and you got four days into

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Speaker 1: a game, right, you're prepping. So as it just been

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Speaker 1: feel scheduling. What have been some of the minor tweaks

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Speaker 1: that CAF has made that you guys have felt as players.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the schedule tweaked a little bit here

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Speaker 5: and there, but that's the biggest thing. You know, he's

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Speaker 5: in charge now, and you know this week, this week

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Speaker 5: has been a week, but we'll see how it goes

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Speaker 5: on game day. You know, we all we're all ready

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Speaker 5: to get out there and put it on the law form.

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Speaker 1: And now you have Tim Kelly's your offensive coordinator. I

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Speaker 1: know he was not technically, but he was a big

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Speaker 1: part of the run game in terms of how you

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Speaker 1: of experience with them already. Get fancy about him. What

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Speaker 1: is it like working with Tim? And what type of

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Speaker 1: guy is he? Not being sick man.

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Speaker 5: Coach he intends Broyes, I would say he's intense, but

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Speaker 5: in a good way, in a good way. You know,

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Speaker 5: he's gonna make sure you're on your p's and q's always.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be locked in and he has that juice too.

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Speaker 5: He has a lot of juice to him and we

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Speaker 5: need that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the run game has really developed well

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, has definitely has been coming along. Shout out

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Speaker 5: to the big guys up front, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's been coming alone, and we've got some

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Speaker 5: things we can build off of.

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Speaker 1: You know, last week, you didn't really run the ball

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Speaker 1: in the first half of that game. It was a

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Speaker 1: struggle for both for both you and Tyrone. Then the

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Speaker 1: second half, you guys ran the ball really, really, well,

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Speaker 1: what changed, if anything, or was it just better execution

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Speaker 1: in the second half of that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just sometimes in the game you gotta adjust.

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Speaker 5: You know, that comes with the game. You gotta adjust

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Speaker 5: and adapt. And I think it was a little bit

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Speaker 5: of that more than anything. You know, those guys had

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Speaker 5: that's a part of the game, you gotta be able

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Speaker 5: to adjust. So yeah, we was able to do that.

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Speaker 1: How important all those little details when you pick them

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Speaker 1: dropping down. How important are picking up those little details

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Speaker 1: quickly so you can make types of adjustments you did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very important. You know.

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Speaker 5: That's how you, you know, give yourself the best chance

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Speaker 5: to win. And you know, I think you know it

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Speaker 5: plays a big part in the game that we play.

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Speaker 1: Also, last week, teams struggle a little bit in the

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Speaker 1: red zone and on fourth and short in that game, Right,

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Speaker 1: what do you guys need to do better to be

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Speaker 1: better in those kind of have to have a situations

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we gotta be on our details for sure. And

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Speaker 5: when the play comes out way, we just got to

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Speaker 5: make it. I feel like that's one of the biggest things.

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Speaker 5: You know, when the play comes your way, make that play.

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Speaker 5: You know, do your win eleven and you know, whatever

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Speaker 5: it takes to win that play.

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Speaker 3: We got to do that.

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Speaker 1: You had that second and goal with the one right,

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Speaker 1: and I think you pretty much had a maybe not

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Speaker 1: on that. When you see him, what what's going through

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Speaker 1: Right, can I beat him to the outside though I

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Speaker 1: did you kind of cut inside of him. Just try

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Speaker 1: to lose a couple of yards on the play. When

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Speaker 1: you see that free runner, what's kind of going through

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Speaker 1: your mind is running?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it all depends on the play.

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Speaker 5: On that particular player was outside zone, so yeah, you

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Speaker 5: if he's overplaying, you want to try to get onnder

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Speaker 3: And if you got to run through them, run through him.

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Speaker 5: So it's all that and split seconds, you know, so

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Speaker 5: you gotta make a decision. So you know, that's that's

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Speaker 5: kind of how that play was. And he he was

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Speaker 5: the better man on that play. He won that play.

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Speaker 1: Now another player, you were the better man. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a third and one. That little swing pass

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Speaker 1: you're still farming, you get down, you end up running

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it was it was crazy. You know. We

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Speaker 5: Going to be wide open how it looked, but I

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Speaker 5: thinking was make a play. And I was able to

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Speaker 5: after I broke that tackle, So you know what I'm

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Speaker 5: mean saying we was able to it turned into a positive.

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Speaker 1: How has practice been this week? How the players reacted

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Speaker 1: to all the changes?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like we're just coming together even closer.

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Speaker 5: I would say, everybody's coming in and jailing together even more.

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Speaker 5: It's very important that we stay together. Even more, not

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Speaker 5: more than ever, And I feel like we had a

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Speaker 1: I don't want to call this wake up call because

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Speaker 1: I think that implies that you guys weren't playing as

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Speaker 1: hard as you can before the change. So I don't

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Speaker 1: want to put it that way. But is it like

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Speaker 1: almost like a flare goes up with a change like

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Speaker 1: this gets made Like all right, this is like serious.

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Speaker 1: Now we got to really be on our p's and

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Speaker 1: ques and start turning this thing around.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean we feel like were

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Speaker 5: some games we left out there that alone already was

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Speaker 5: enough fire up one of us, and then everything that

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Speaker 5: took place this week just added to it.

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Speaker 1: I would say, oh, yeah, Jamis Winston just starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: this week, Let's talk about Jamis. We don't talk about

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Speaker 1: James off the field. I don't talk about Samas on

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Speaker 1: the field. What does he bring in terms of under center, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: in the huddle passing game? What does he bring to

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Speaker 1: your offense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, Jabo can get the ball anywhere, you know,

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Speaker 5: he can read any defense, he can make any throw.

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Speaker 5: You know, He's a great leader and just that energy.

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Speaker 5: I think everybody feeds off of his energy. He's every

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Speaker 5: day the same person, So we know what they expect

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Speaker 1: What is it like when he has that energy, the leadership,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, fifty six, he flies around very very instinctive.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean really just his presence more than anything,

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Speaker 3: His presence.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Devin, what do you want to show the fans

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, we'll be excited to see guys back home.

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Speaker 1: They want to see a win. You have two huge

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, just showing man, don't give up on us,

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Speaker 5: because because we got a lot of fight left in us,

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Speaker 5: Come come ready, Bring a lot of energy. That'll help

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Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes

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Speaker 2: of crunch time football, I'm your man.

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Speaker 1: postgame radio host for the Packers Radio and networked great

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Speaker 2: Previewing the Packers. All right, now we turn our attention

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Speaker 2: to the green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: Happy to welcome in Billy Schmid, who covers the Packers

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Speaker 1: does their postgame show.

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Speaker 2: Billy, thanks for being with us, man.

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Speaker 1: I want to start here with you who's going to

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Speaker 4: It's become a really revolving door, John, that the Packers

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Speaker 4: The numbers haven't been eye popping for the young rookie

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Speaker 4: their two biggest weapons. Tucker Craft out with an ACL

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Speaker 1: Well, so then maybe you already answered this question with

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, losing Craft has been a big part of it

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Speaker 1: Well, you took me where I wanted to go. You're

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Speaker 4: the interior. But there's big time questions as to what

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Speaker 4: it looks like going forward. And you're right, it's been

440
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Speaker 4: a spot of pride for the Packers for a long

441
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Speaker 4: time that their offensive line is going to consistently be

442
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Speaker 4: a little bit ahead of the curb right, and they

443
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Speaker 4: draft an offensive tackle, Jordan Morgan to play left tackle

444
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Speaker 4: a year ago. Now he's playing right guard. Rashid Walker

445
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Speaker 4: was kind of found money as a seventh round pick

446
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Speaker 4: and it started now two years at left tackle and

447
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Speaker 4: been good enough. But I think that they can definitely

448
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Speaker 4: see the riding on the wall that he's in a

449
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Speaker 4: free agent year, it's hard to see that he gets

450
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Speaker 4: brought back and retained. They paid Zac Tom this year

451
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Speaker 4: and he's been ailing with some with an injury. Hasn't

452
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Speaker 4: played to the level that he's been, but it's one

453
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Speaker 4: that's definitely in flux. They pay Aaron Banks in the

454
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Speaker 4: offseason and frankly, whether it's injury or performance, just hasn't

455
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Speaker 4: lived up to the number that he signed. He was

456
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Speaker 4: the most expensive guard in the free agent market this year,

457
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Speaker 4: and I think he's had like five injuries and John

458
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Speaker 4: that's a tough place to live. At one point he

459
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Speaker 4: was out with both groins being hurt. I thought you

460
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Speaker 4: could only hurt one groin at a time. So when

461
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Speaker 4: you find a way to do that, that's a tough

462
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Speaker 4: spot to live, and the Packers have found themselves behind

463
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Speaker 4: the eight ball there, and with Alton Jenkins going down,

464
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Speaker 4: his play has not lived up to the expectation that

465
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Speaker 4: they thought moving him inside. It's where he played in college.

466
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Speaker 4: He's a multiple time pro bowler, and it's left some

467
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Speaker 4: to be desired. But they, in theory kind of bench

468
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Speaker 4: Sean Ryan in a contract year now, have to turn

469
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Speaker 4: to him to be their starting center for the remainder

470
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Speaker 4: of the way. They're gonna need some guys to definitely

471
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Speaker 4: improve because it is right now in middle of the

472
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Speaker 4: pack unit and if you're gonna be a super Bowl team,

473
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Speaker 4: you just can't have that upfront.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure how it works in Green Bay,

475
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Speaker 1: but I know it is a constant temperature check on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback every week. And I know Jordan Love is

477
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Speaker 1: a guy that has gone through some hot stretches where

478
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Speaker 1: he looked like the best quarterback in the league, and

479
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Speaker 1: then he's gone through some stretches or games where maybe

480
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Speaker 1: it doesn't look that way. What's the temperature check on

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Speaker 1: on Jordan Love right now in terms of how he's

482
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Speaker 1: playing for the Packers.

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Speaker 4: The heat's not probably as hot on Jordan as it is.

484
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Speaker 4: Definitely the head coach Mattlefluur is fining himself definitely in

485
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Speaker 4: the crossflayers on the daily show that we're doing here

486
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Speaker 4: and taking probably shouldering more of the blame than it's

487
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Speaker 4: going to love. I think the bigger question for Jordan

488
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Speaker 4: is when can you get out of and grow out

489
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Speaker 4: of the backbreaking mistake? And last week that's the one

490
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Speaker 4: that ultimately bites him. You're going in for points, it's nothing,

491
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Speaker 4: nothing game just before the half. You gotta be able

492
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Speaker 4: to kick a field goal there and you can't give

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Speaker 4: the football away. That mistake has flared up in massive

494
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Speaker 4: games in his career. That is the one that's really

495
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Speaker 4: standing out more than not being able to hang in

496
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Speaker 4: the pocket maybe a tick longer. He's getting a lot

497
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Speaker 4: of grace with the low level play they've gotten up

498
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Speaker 4: front in front of him and the changing, revolving door

499
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Speaker 4: of receivers that he's throwing to. But it's the it's

500
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Speaker 4: the backbreaking mistake to play complimentary You hear this, every

501
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 4: single coach is gonna talk about playing complimentary football. That

502
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Speaker 4: was the moment and that's been the biggest issue. I

503
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Speaker 4: think to grow out of being a young quarterback and

504
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Speaker 4: a really good young quarterback. So being one of those

505
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Speaker 4: guys that you win because of you just can't give

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Speaker 4: the football away in those moments. That's what he's taking

507
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Speaker 4: the most he for right now, I think.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump to the defensive side of the

509
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Speaker 1: ball here, Billy and Boy one of the better units

510
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Speaker 1: in the league. Is it too simple to call him

511
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Speaker 1: a bend but don't break unit under Jeff Affley.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the right way of putting it. And it's

513
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Speaker 4: one name and one tag that fans here don't like

514
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Speaker 4: because they assume that means all we do is allow

515
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Speaker 4: somebody to dink and dunk their way down the field.

516
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Speaker 4: But you know, you got to give and take in

517
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Speaker 4: this league, and they take a lot of well take

518
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Speaker 4: a lot in pass rush. With that front four, they're

519
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Speaker 4: able to eat, especially when washing ninety five Devonte Wyatt.

520
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Speaker 4: He might be the most unsung player in that unit,

521
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Speaker 4: but when he's out there, they can really get after

522
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Speaker 4: the passer. And rushing up the middle has been the

523
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Speaker 4: most important thing in the NFL for the last twenty years,

524
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Speaker 4: but it seems like we always kind of forget about it.

525
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Speaker 4: We fall in love with the edge rushers and the

526
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Speaker 4: numbers you get pressure up the middle. It changes things.

527
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Speaker 4: They are going to play so much zone, they're going

528
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Speaker 4: to tackle in front. They are going to be sometimes

529
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Speaker 4: a trip to the dentist and Packers fans don't necessarily

530
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Speaker 4: love the bend but don't break. But it's the absolute

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Speaker 4: best way of putting it. They having on the turnovers

532
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Speaker 4: that you need to excel at the most elite level

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Speaker 4: in that defense. But that's definitely the style.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, fewest twenty yard plays, twenty yard passes. I mean,

536
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Speaker 1: they just put a complete cap over the top of

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Speaker 1: the defense this year. And that's why I think this

538
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Speaker 1: game is going to be fun Billy, because what does

539
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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston not want to do? Be very patient and

540
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Speaker 1: just slowly dink and dunk the ball up the field.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see of what that dichotomy is

542
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Speaker 1: where the Packers want to make you do that. Jamis

543
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Speaker 1: wants to try to throw the ball down the field

544
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Speaker 1: and kind of how that's gonna work.

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Speaker 4: We've pined it. This is a you gotta take what's

546
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Speaker 4: given day, and it's not a not just on the

547
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Speaker 4: offensive side, because I do think the Packers are going

548
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Speaker 4: to try to be more explosive and push the ball,

549
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Speaker 4: but defensively, you got to take what's given. James Is

550
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Speaker 4: gonna give you a couple of opportunities, and you gotta

551
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Speaker 4: be able to squeez him. And I'd say that Zader

552
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Speaker 4: McKinney is definitely happy that the move was to go

553
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Speaker 4: to Jameis Winston because I imagine twenty nine has an

554
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Speaker 4: opportunity to get one or two hands on the football

555
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Speaker 4: coming up this weekend. It's exactly right. They want to

556
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Speaker 4: eliminate big plays. Jamis wants to throw the ball down

557
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Speaker 4: the field. I can't wait for it. I was fired up,

558
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Speaker 4: not from a Packers fan standpoint, because I got much

559
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Speaker 4: more trepidacous and nervous about the matchup once Winston was

560
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Speaker 4: announced as the starter. But it sure does ad for

561
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Speaker 4: a lot of theater coming up here at noon.

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Speaker 1: Has McKinney talked all about playing the Giants, his former

563
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Speaker 1: team at all this week.

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Speaker 4: A little bit? It hasn't been It hasn't been bad.

565
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Speaker 4: It hasn't been There doesn't seem to be any bad blood.

566
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Speaker 4: It was a moment in time where I think he

567
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Speaker 4: felt like his best opportunity was to elevate his career

568
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Speaker 4: by maybe getting away from some distractions and going into

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that are different between Green

570
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Speaker 4: Bay and New York City. I think be able to

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Speaker 4: say it, but maybe the number one is if all

572
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Speaker 4: you want to focus on is football, green Bay is

573
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Speaker 4: a great place to be doing that. Not a great

574
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Speaker 4: place to begin a steak after eleven o'clock, but it's

575
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Speaker 4: a good place to be focusing it on sports.

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Speaker 2: I got two more for you.

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Speaker 1: I think your linebackers aren't talk to about it enough

578
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Speaker 1: just because of the way they can run the sideline.

579
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Speaker 1: The sile on ability from both Cooper and Walker to

580
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Speaker 1: me is just off the charts one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And John Kuay Walker has been much maligned here with

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Speaker 4: the Packers fan base for a long time because as

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Speaker 4: the guy that you and I both know a lot

584
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Speaker 4: about Blake Martinez, people are always believing that the inside linebacker,

585
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Speaker 4: all you do is get these tackles five yards down

586
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Speaker 4: the field better than fifteen yards down the field. Right

587
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Speaker 4: at some point needs to get the guy on the ground,

588
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Speaker 4: and Walker's done that for the majority of his career.

589
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Speaker 4: This year, coordinating the defense on the field, he wears

590
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Speaker 4: the green dot, he makes all the calls and he's

591
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Speaker 4: been exceptional in that. And for Edrin Cooper, the second

592
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Speaker 4: year guy from Texas A and m offseason wise, there

593
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Speaker 4: was no doubt he had to take a step forward

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Speaker 4: for them to be able to be the defense that

595
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Speaker 4: they want to be. He makes the splash play of

596
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Speaker 4: the punch last week. That's kind of the hope for

597
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Speaker 4: Packers fans that that's the first of many of the

598
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Speaker 4: splash plays. But you're exactly right. In twenty twenty, Lavonte

599
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Speaker 4: David and Devin White came up here in the NFC

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Speaker 4: title game and took the Packers lunch all game long.

601
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Speaker 4: People remember Brady throwing three picks and ultimately the Packers

602
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Speaker 4: settling for a field goal and not going for a touchdown.

603
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Speaker 4: It was Devin White single handedly wrecking the game and

604
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Speaker 4: Leavonte David running all over the place. The Packers have

605
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Speaker 4: been searching for that pairing since that day in January,

606
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Speaker 4: and I do think they finally have it in kway

607
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Speaker 4: Walker and Edren Cooper.

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Speaker 1: And then I guess I buried the little little bit.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a couple pretty good edge rushers in MICHAELH.

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Speaker 1: Parsons and Rashaun Gary. How do they work it in

611
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Speaker 1: terms of who's on the left side, who's on the

612
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Speaker 1: right side. The Giants Andrew Thomas has been playing like

613
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Speaker 1: a pro bowler this year to man a little more

614
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Speaker 1: is actually done a pretty nice job and right tackle

615
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Speaker 1: as well. But how do they work who's on the

616
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Speaker 1: right side, who's on the left side. I know they

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Speaker 1: line Parsons up kind of as a joker in the

618
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Speaker 1: middle of the line too. How do they work in

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Speaker 1: terms of how those guys lines up, where they line up,

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Speaker 1: and how they use them.

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Speaker 4: We're still learning how they're going to try to find

622
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Speaker 4: ways to use Micah Parsons and they're absolutely moving him

623
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Speaker 4: around all over the place. Rashan Gary's mostly gonna line

624
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Speaker 4: up on the right side of the offense and he's

625
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Speaker 4: going to He's gonna work to set a strong edge.

626
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Speaker 4: That's one thing that you know. Rashan his sack numbers

627
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 4: are better this year than they have ever been, ever

628
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Speaker 4: have been in his career, But what he's done against

629
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Speaker 4: the run has always been forgotten about it and it's

630
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Speaker 4: so under unsung thing of playing that position. You're paid

631
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Speaker 4: to rush the passer and if you're not getting double

632
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: you're gonna be questioned. But his work on the outside

633
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Speaker 4: is big time, and he's gonna mostly line up on

634
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Speaker 4: the right side and it's gonna be difficult to make

635
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Speaker 4: some hay against Andrew Thomas. He's gonna probably see a

636
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Speaker 4: little bit of Lucas van Ness as well. I think

637
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Speaker 4: he's gonna be back from his injury this week. He

638
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: got back on the practice field as well as JJ

639
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Speaker 4: Andigbari Kingsley and Nigbarre. He's found himself onto more of

640
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Speaker 4: those pass rush situations because they're finding any way to

641
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Speaker 4: match up Micah Parsons with a guard and it's worked

642
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: out decently well for him when they line him up

643
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Speaker 4: on his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she'd asked you about the cornerbacks real quick.

645
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Speaker 1: I know Keishaw Nixon is having a great year. But

646
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Speaker 1: if there's one spot that you can maybe attack this group,

647
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: is it at corner.

648
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Speaker 4: Absolutely? And Carrington Valentine now in for Nate Hobbs. Nate

649
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 4: has been battling a bunch of injuries throughout the year,

650
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: but it's not an injury reason. They made the move

651
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Speaker 4: to Carrington Valentine a couple of weeks ago for performance,

652
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Speaker 4: and he's picked it up and done exactly what they

653
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Speaker 4: needed him to do. The quarnerback spot. Playing alongside Nixon,

654
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Speaker 4: he is going to talk a lot twenty four. The

655
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Speaker 4: worst play is going to be where he gets soloed

656
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Speaker 4: up against Saquon Barkley in the open field on Monday night.

657
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Speaker 4: Better men than him hauling at the feet of Saquon

658
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Speaker 4: Barkley spinning away. But they're definitely the two weakest links,

659
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 4: the biggest question marks on the defense. But they've been

660
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Speaker 4: playing much more aggressive over the last couple of weeks,

661
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Speaker 4: knowing the ball's got to come out with this kind

662
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Speaker 4: of pass rush, So they're learning how to play with

663
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Speaker 4: the pass rush. And I think that they've gotten better

664
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Speaker 4: play on the outside of the last couple of weeks.

665
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Speaker 4: But if there's the spot that's somewhat vulnerable, it's on

666
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Speaker 4: the outside.

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Speaker 2: Billy, appreciate the time.

668
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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Tell the folks where they can find all your great work.

670
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Speaker 4: Always find us at Bill Schmid Radio. You can find

671
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Speaker 4: us on the line there the game ten seventy in Wisconsin,

672
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: the Game Network, and Packers postgame on the Packers Radio Network.

673
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Speaker 4: I also do Badgers, but that hasn't been nearly as

674
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Speaker 4: much fun this year, so we'll focus on the pro game.

675
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Speaker 2: Appreciate the tye Billy, enjoy the game.

676
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Speaker 1: We'll talk Thanks John, Thanks for having me huddle up,

677
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: get in here, you lined up here, you gotta go

678
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: over the middle with at the score?

679
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Speaker 4: Great?

680
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Speaker 1: How do we make that happen?

681
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Speaker 7: I don't know, Bud Citizen does it makes sense of

682
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Speaker 7: your money with Citizens Official Bank of Eli Manning.

683
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Speaker 2: Thank you to Billy.

684
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Speaker 1: We appreciate his time and the big game for the

685
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Speaker 1: Packers here are coming up against the Giants in MetLife Stadium.

686
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Speaker 1: Now let's go to the star of the show, and

687
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Speaker 1: that is the Giants. Do interim head coach Mike Kafka

688
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Speaker 1: a very long introductory one on one interview with the

689
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Speaker 1: voice of the Giants, Bob Papa.

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Speaker 6: Mike, it's been a whirlwind week for you.

691
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Speaker 8: How has it gone as far as just trying to

692
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Speaker 8: keep everything sort of in order and get ready to

693
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Speaker 8: play a football game.

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Speaker 6: It's been great. It's been great.

695
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Speaker 7: You know. I've been very very lucky to have a

696
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Speaker 7: great staff around me to get me organized and keep

697
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Speaker 7: me organized and really kind of follow the vision and

698
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Speaker 7: the way I kind of want to run things, and

699
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Speaker 7: they've been able to really knock out a lot of

700
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Speaker 7: the main, like big picture items that I've been thinking about,

701
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Speaker 7: and it's been really cool to kind of see the

702
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Speaker 7: players adjust as well, just and adapt, and they've.

703
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Speaker 6: Done a heck of a job.

704
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Speaker 7: I'm really proud of that group and really proud of

705
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Speaker 7: the organization for stepping up.

706
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Speaker 8: What was the first messaging to the team when you

707
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Speaker 8: address them for the first time, as far as what

708
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Speaker 8: you expect and what you want Mike Kafka's football team

709
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Speaker 8: to look like.

710
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Speaker 7: I think what's really important and things that I've learned

711
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Speaker 7: from the head coaches I've been around, is you know,

712
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 7: the football team that really is a representation of the

713
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Speaker 7: personality of your head coach. And so I think if

714
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Speaker 7: you approach it with confidence, with poise, with detail, I

715
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Speaker 7: think the players will follow suit. And so I think,

716
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Speaker 7: you know, you just go on there, you be yourself,

717
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Speaker 7: under let them understand, here are the things we got

718
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Speaker 7: to do to win this football game. Here are the

719
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Speaker 7: things that we got to do to continue to get

720
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Speaker 7: better and grow as a team. And then you lay

721
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Speaker 7: out a plant form and then you let them go

722
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Speaker 7: execute it. And if there's things that we got to

723
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Speaker 7: change and adjust along the way and just continue to

724
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Speaker 7: stay flexible, then we go ahead and do that and

725
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Speaker 7: make those adjustments.

726
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Speaker 8: All right, I'm sure your phone was blowing up this

727
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Speaker 8: week where there's some significant people in your life outside

728
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 8: of obviously family and loved ones that reached out to

729
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Speaker 8: you via text and or gave you a call and

730
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Speaker 8: wanted to just give you a little advice.

731
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Speaker 7: Yeah, there was such so many people that reached out

732
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Speaker 7: and still working through getting back to everybody. But it's

733
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Speaker 7: really cool to feel the support from from former Giants players,

734
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Speaker 7: from current Giants players, from family, from people and coaches

735
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Speaker 7: around the league. It was really cool to to you know,

736
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Speaker 7: to feel that, you know, that kind of love and support,

737
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Speaker 7: and you know, it makes it easier when you're going

738
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Speaker 7: through a situation like this and you want to do

739
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Speaker 7: your best to really feel that support from from a

740
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Speaker 7: lot of people.

741
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Speaker 8: How valuable was it for you having an opportunity at

742
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Speaker 8: the East West Shrine Game and at the Senior Bowl

743
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Speaker 8: to kind of serve in this role and to be

744
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Speaker 8: able to manage a staff and manage a game that

745
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Speaker 8: experience that I mean, I know this is different this

746
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Speaker 8: is an NFL game, but still to be in that

747
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Speaker 8: seat and understand all of the different dynamics that go

748
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Speaker 8: into the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's all all the all the different pieces that

751
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Speaker 7: work together. And I'm lucky to have l y to

752
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Speaker 7: be to be there for me and help keep me organized, because, yeah,

753
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 7: there are a lot of moving parts and the best

754
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Speaker 7: you can you want to get everyone in one room

755
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Speaker 7: and give them a direction and have have them understand

756
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Speaker 7: your vision and then and then make adjustments along the way.

757
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Speaker 7: I don't think there's ever an opportunity to be exactly

758
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Speaker 7: perfect or try and be too perfect.

759
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Speaker 6: It's just all right.

760
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Speaker 7: You have a direction, you let you let the people

761
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Speaker 7: that are in those positions do a great job and

762
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Speaker 7: do their job to the best of their ability, because

763
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Speaker 7: that's why they're here to do their job. And you know,

764
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Speaker 7: I can support them in as many ways as I

765
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Speaker 7: can and help them in certain aspects, and so, you know,

766
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Speaker 7: continue to bring open lines of communication and collaborate with

767
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Speaker 7: the great people we have in the organization.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, as you're finding out, just because you're sitting here

769
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Speaker 8: doing this interview with me, getting ready to play the Packers,

770
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Speaker 8: that there's more to being a head coach than coaching.

771
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Speaker 8: You made Tim Kelly the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 6: Why was that move important to you?

773
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Speaker 4: I thought it was.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was a great move.

775
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Speaker 7: I really, I really loved him in terms of being

776
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Speaker 7: a coach, in terms of being a person. To me,

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Speaker 7: it was a no brainer. Our staff and how he's

778
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Speaker 7: able to combine both the run game and the pass

779
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Speaker 7: game and really understand it. And plus he has a

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Speaker 7: bunch of experience too, so it was really a no

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Speaker 7: brainer for me. I really I loved him in terms of,

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Speaker 7: you know, how how he operates in the building and

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Speaker 7: how he prepares, and he's been one of those type

784
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Speaker 7: of guys that you know, I lean on in game day,

785
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Speaker 7: you know, making adjustments and talking about how the flow

786
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Speaker 7: of the game is going.

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Speaker 6: So he's a guy that I have a lot of

788
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Speaker 6: trust in.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, from a defensive standpoint, you're playing a Packers team

790
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Speaker 8: that has a lot of explosive weapons. We all know

791
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Speaker 8: what's gone on this season as far as being good

792
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Speaker 8: enough to be in contention to win some of these

793
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Speaker 8: games and they're just not going your way. What are

794
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Speaker 8: some of the things that you want to see out

795
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Speaker 8: of your defense in order to be able to close

796
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Speaker 8: some of these things out. And I know it's complementary.

797
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Speaker 8: I know Special Teams is tied into it. Obviously scoring

798
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Speaker 8: in the red zone maybe to put a game away.

799
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Speaker 8: But from a defensive standpoint, what do you want to see?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they.

801
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Speaker 7: I think the defense has had an aggressive approach to

802
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 7: start these games now, as whether it's a defense, offense

803
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 7: or special teams as a unit, as a complete team,

804
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 7: we just got to finish. And when we get these

805
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Speaker 7: opportunities to make plays at the end of the game,

806
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Speaker 7: and any of those any of those groupings or in

807
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Speaker 7: those units, we got to do it. And it's about

808
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Speaker 7: to you know, us coaches, we can put together a

809
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 7: great plan, show them and you know certain examples of

810
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Speaker 7: where we can finish and how we can get better,

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Speaker 7: and then the players putting these guys in a good

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Speaker 7: position to go be successful.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 8: With Jackson Dart in the concussion protocol, you announced earlier

815
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Speaker 8: this week that James Winston would get the start. What

816
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Speaker 8: is it being around James for the first time that

817
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 8: really has caught your eye and why you think he

818
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Speaker 8: gives the team the best chance to win this week?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Jamis has a veteran presence. He has a lot

820
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Speaker 7: of production in this league, and he's been a great

821
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Speaker 7: He's been a great, great addition to the quarterback room

822
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Speaker 7: since we've been here.

823
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Speaker 6: So I'm excited for Jamis.

824
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Speaker 7: I think I know he'll roll with this opportunity and

825
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Speaker 7: do the best he can and lead our offense, which

826
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Speaker 7: is which is what we need from him, you know,

827
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Speaker 7: be able to go in there, lead the offense, go

828
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Speaker 7: and execute at high level.

829
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Speaker 8: Heck and his two career starts against Green Bay seven touchdowns,

830
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Speaker 8: no interceptions, So that's not something to sneeze at either.

831
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Speaker 8: So let's talk about this Packers team from a defensive standpoint.

832
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Speaker 8: You know, when you talk about three levels, you know

833
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Speaker 8: you've got Parsons in Gary, they're combined fourteen sacks, Walker

834
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Speaker 8: the inside backer, and then former Giant Xavier McKinny leading

835
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Speaker 8: the back end. And Nixon's having a fantastic year. What

836
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Speaker 8: makes this defense so good?

837
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Speaker 7: Well, you know, I think I think you hit on it.

838
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Speaker 7: They have a great personnel that plays very aggressive, They

839
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 7: tackle very well, they attack the football and are able

840
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 7: to create turn on I'd say they're coach very well.

841
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 7: They're very disciplined in their scheme, they're in the right spots,

842
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 7: and so you know, they make you they make you

843
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: play disciplined as well. So I think that'll be a

844
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Speaker 7: great challenge for our players, not only just on individual battles,

845
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 7: but overall being able to build out and work through

846
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 7: the game plan and make adjustments along the way.

847
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Speaker 8: And sometimes right, a punt isn't a bad thing as

848
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 8: far as the game is concerned and the way the

849
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 8: flow of the game goes right. I mean, they've played

850
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 8: a lot of low scoring games. It's been it's been

851
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 8: talked about, you know. Is that a situation where you

852
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 8: have to kind of preach to James and everybody else,

853
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 8: we don't have to hit the home run here.

854
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Speaker 6: If we have to punt, it's better than doing something silly. Yeah.

855
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Speaker 7: I think. I think we have a plan on how

856
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 7: we want to play the game, and then as the

857
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 7: game declares, and then I think you make adjustments based

858
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 7: off of that. I think that's I and I know

859
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 7: our guys are dialed into how, you know, how we

860
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 7: want to operate on offense and defense and special teams.

861
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 7: Being in those meetings and seeing the energy and seeing

862
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 7: the game plan ends kind of come to life. That's

863
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: been really cool to see. You know, sometimes you don't

864
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 7: really get kind of behind the door and you're not

865
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 7: in those meetings, you know, So being in them and

866
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 7: seeing the players respond has been has been great and

867
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Speaker 7: I'm excited to see them go roll roll it out

868
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 7: on Sunday.

869
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Speaker 6: So let's go to the other side of the ball

870
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Speaker 6: with loved quarterback.

871
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Speaker 8: Obviously, the numbers are the numbers as far as this team,

872
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 8: They've been down some receivers, they lost one of their

873
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 8: big weapons and craft, the tight end, but they still

874
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 8: have that running back that can pound you and then

875
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 8: break you down. Is that the key to this whole

876
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 8: thing is making sure Jacobs does not stay on schedule.

877
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 7: And that's that's the unique thing about The unique thing

878
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 7: about the Packers offense is they have a bunch of

879
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 7: different skill sets. They have a running back, they got

880
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 7: o Y, and they got they got they still have

881
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 7: tight ends and the receivers and the quarterback, you know,

882
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 7: and I got a lot of respect for Jordan and

883
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 7: the production he's had, But yeah, they got to They

884
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 7: got a really talented offense and they do a really

885
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 7: good job and coach la four Or does a great

886
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 7: job of mixing and matching different concepts and really testing

887
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 7: the rules on defense in terms of your run fits.

888
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 7: And he's able to you know, create create some some

889
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 7: multiple gaps and get the run game going. But they

890
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 7: have a skill set that's pretty unique across the league,

891
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 7: i'd say, and they do a really nice job of

892
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 7: building that out and executing it.

893
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: Does it help a little bit?

894
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 8: And the fact that you know you've gained plan for them,

895
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 8: and I don't mean you know a long time ago.

896
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 8: You played them two years ago at MetLife Stadium, So

897
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 8: just kind of a sense of the way he wants

898
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 8: to run his team, whether it's offensively or defensively.

899
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can get a sense of it. But obviously,

900
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 7: you know, over the years, every team is different, Every

901
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 7: team changes, coordinators change, and you know the how even

902
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 7: the NFL, I mean three years ago, that's completely different

903
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 7: NFL in terms of how teams are playing certain coverages

904
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 7: and how teams are playing offense. So each year is

905
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 7: a new year, and I'd say this is a different

906
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 7: team that we saw from from a couple of years back.

907
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 6: It's just different.

908
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 7: So we have to be and we're a different team too,

909
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 7: so we have to be able to you know, just

910
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 7: to get into the game, get to the flow of

911
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 7: the game, adjust, adapt, and then be aggressive.

912
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 6: And we need to be aggressive.

913
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 8: Coach Andy Reid has obviously been a big influence within

914
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 8: your career. You were a fourth round pick of the

915
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 8: Eagles back in twenty ten. You were on his staff

916
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 8: in Kansas City before coming to the Giants. What are

917
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 8: some of the tenants that have held true and constant

918
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 8: that you learned from him, which is why he's been

919
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 8: so successful and that you want to sprinkle into your

920
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 8: reign as the head coach of the Giants.

921
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 7: I'd said the number one most important thing I learned

922
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 7: from coach in that time, and there's a lot, but

923
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 7: one of the most important ones is just being yourself,

924
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 7: you know, and just you know, just be your authentic self.

925
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 7: And I think everything pretty much takes care of itself

926
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 7: from there. So and the beauty of being in this

927
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 7: position is that at one point I was in those

928
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 7: seats that the players were in, so I kind of

929
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 7: understand a little bit of how they're feeling and where

930
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 7: to kind of where to kind of direct them, and

931
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 7: so I think I can relate and I can you know,

932
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 7: continue to build on the relationships that I do have

933
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 7: majority of those you know are on the offensive side,

934
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 7: because I'm in front of those guys a lot. So

935
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 7: I think the more I'm around the defense, the more

936
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 7: around the special teams, and having them understand who I

937
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 7: am as a person, who I am as a leader,

938
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 7: who I am as a coach and a man and

939
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 7: a father and a husband, all those things, I think,

940
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 7: the more opportunities they get to see that, I think the.

941
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 6: Clearer would be a picture of who I am.

942
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 8: All right, So a lighter question here is, you've gone

943
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 8: through this week and all of a sudden, there's all

944
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 8: these things that are coming at you. And I know

945
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 8: you've interviewed for head coaching jobs. I know you've studied

946
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 8: all this, You've worked your whole life to have an

947
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 8: opportunity to be a head coach. But is there one

948
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 8: thing that's maybe come across your desk, Like I gotta

949
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 8: make that decision too.

950
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 6: That's a good that's really good.

951
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 7: Like I think a lot of the things that are

952
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 7: we've been talking about because again, like we were, I

953
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 7: was very conscious of not just making changes for the

954
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 7: sake of change, just because I really wanted to be

955
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 7: intentional with the minor tweaks that we made that that

956
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 7: that could help the players, because that's really all I

957
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 7: was thinking about.

958
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 6: So we have a great we have a great staff,

959
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 6: a great support staff, and.

960
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 7: There's a lot of great pieces here, and so I

961
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 7: think I was leaning more or less on their expertise

962
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 7: on Okay, here's how we do here's how we've done it,

963
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 7: here's how we do it. Okay, maybe it's a little

964
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 7: minor tweak here there, but you know, I think for

965
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 7: the most part, the group and the staff that came

966
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 7: together really had a really good thing in place in

967
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 7: terms of just the communication. So it was just more

968
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 7: or less for me just saying out loud what I'm

969
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 7: looking for and then allowing them to kind of go

970
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 7: put their flavor on it and.

971
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 6: Go execute it, which which I think is cool.

972
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 7: Like, you want to collaborate with everybody, but these people

973
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 7: are here because they're really good at their job, so

974
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 7: you also want to give them the flexibility to go

975
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 7: ahead and do their job and not put them in

976
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 7: a box. So I've been just just kind of just

977
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 7: go with the flow right now and when I can,

978
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 7: when I can add something or subtract something that I

979
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 7: think makes sense for the team. I've been able to

980
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 7: do that, but not trying to get overextended, not trying

981
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 7: to you know, continue to do too much in one day,

982
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 7: but you know, kind of live like one day at

983
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 7: a time, build it out. And again, I got a

984
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 7: lot of great people around me, so lean on them,

985
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 7: lean on their their opinions and their expertise, and just

986
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 7: you know, continue to be myself and understand that the

987
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 7: main task is here on Sunday. I got to you know,

988
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 7: we have to be able to go out there and

989
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 7: execute and let the let the other stuff kind of

990
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 7: surrounding it, lean on the people that have been put

991
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 7: in place here and allow them to make it right.

992
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 8: And plus you'll you'll you'll input the data in your

993
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 8: head of what happens on Sunday of okay, maybe moving forward,

994
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 8: here's some other changes that have to be made right,

995
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 8: but you want to see it in real time before

996
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 8: you is that what you're trying to say, like they

997
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 8: wanted it in real.

998
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 7: Time, that's going to just be set in stone. I

999
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 7: want to continue to do a value wait every single day.

1000
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 7: Each week, we'll go back and kind of debrief what

1001
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 7: happened the last you know, this this current week right,

1002
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 7: So we'll debrief it, We'll talk through it with the

1003
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 7: heads of each department and go through it again each

1004
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 7: week and say, all right, how can we get better?

1005
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 7: How can I get better? How can I serve you?

1006
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 7: How can we continue to get the players in a

1007
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 7: better position? And then we go and put a plan

1008
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 7: together to go do that.

1009
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Speaker 8: Coach, We wish you the best of luck against the Packers.

1010
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 8: Congratulations on the opportunity.

1011
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: We know you'll do great. And thank you so much

1012
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 6: for joining us getting ready for the Giants and Packers great.

1013
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for having me.

1014
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: Really good stuff from Mike Kafka. There is really taken

1015
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: to this pretty naturally this week, pretty oppressive. Now we'll

1016
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: see what the results look like on the field. We

1017
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: thank Mike Kafka, We thank Bob Papa, we thank Billy Schmid,

1018
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: and we thank Devin Singletary for joining us on this

1019
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Speaker 1: Keep getting better for Bob, Papa. For the rest of

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Speaker 6: Everybody