Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Nerdificent. Actually not
Speaker 1: an episode, but a spoiler review. This is our spoiler
Speaker 1: review for Captain Marvel. Y'all ask for it. It is here.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it yet, one go listen to
Speaker 1: our Captain Marvel episode that we did with Tiffany Millius,
Speaker 1: who is the owner of the Perky Nerd Comic bookshop.
Speaker 1: That doesn't have spoilers. It just has her going over
Speaker 1: the history of the character, where to start with the
Speaker 1: comics if you're trying to get into the comics, So
Speaker 1: definitely recommend that. But this is Iffian Eyes spoiler heavy review.
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, no, it'll be a good time. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I think, uh yeah, it'll be great. Yeah, it's fresh
Speaker 1: on my brain. I went to see it last night.
Speaker 1: It was super fun. I you know, I had a
Speaker 1: good time. It's fun to see a movie after there's
Speaker 1: just so much discussion to be had around it, and also,
Speaker 1: you know, just multiple different takes. You know, you don't
Speaker 1: I typically do like to go and fresh headed, but
Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting seeing the especially knowing that
Speaker 1: I was going to do the spoiler review to see
Speaker 1: certain criticisms people have valid ones and we'll get into
Speaker 1: that soon. Um, valid criticisms and kind of going in
Speaker 1: with that in my head and seeing did I care
Speaker 1: or not? Because I sometimes I feel like there are
Speaker 1: a lot of valid criticisms, but that doesn't necessarily means
Speaker 1: that it will impact the movie the same way for
Speaker 1: me or you you know. Uh, So that's it was nice.
Speaker 1: It was I got to highlight all the things, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I get to actively address uh some
Speaker 1: some some things people may think, uh knowing some things
Speaker 1: people may think. Yeah, and joining us, we have entertainment
Speaker 1: critic Joel Monique, you were on our and we also
Speaker 1: have Samsher who is the host of Only Stupid Answers
Speaker 1: and New rock Stars. Sam You recognized his voice from
Speaker 1: our flash episode that was blast. So I'm excited to
Speaker 1: talk about this movie. Yes, um, I'm ready y'all to
Speaker 1: go higher, further, faster. Well look at it? Do you
Speaker 1: really love my puns? Um? Um? Yeah, So let's get in.
Speaker 1: I guess I wanted to start with, did y'all read
Speaker 1: any of the comics or no, just the okay comics
Speaker 1: that this kind of iteration of Carol Dammers is based
Speaker 1: off of gotch I've only done more recent ones I
Speaker 1: have never read, like the iconic one that kind of
Speaker 1: like thrusted Carol into like the forefront of the comics
Speaker 1: as Captain Marvel. The more recent ones have been a
Speaker 1: ton of fun. She was also part of like the
Speaker 1: big Marvel events Civil War two, which really kind of
Speaker 1: nuke their character. But they're doing they're doing backflips to
Speaker 1: make it better again. So yeah, I'm a big fan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and have you all seen her in Marvel Rising? She's
Speaker 1: in Marvel Rising? Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, well,
Speaker 1: if you where do you want to start? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess I guess we'll just start, you know, how
Speaker 1: do we do? Man? I guess we'll just start kind
Speaker 1: of with the top of the movie, just initially because
Speaker 1: that was cool to me. That means the first I
Speaker 1: think one of the things I will say, the first
Speaker 1: criticism I heard, uh and and what about was someone
Speaker 1: said that they felt like the first twenty minutes of
Speaker 1: the movie they felt it was like unnecessary, And for me,
Speaker 1: I I'm I'm on a weird place with that where
Speaker 1: it's like I can see that, But I also as
Speaker 1: a fan of the comics, that was like you know,
Speaker 1: creep porn, you know, like you got to see like
Speaker 1: all of the Cree Empire. And I think it just
Speaker 1: kind of like gave us some juicy backstory for Guardians
Speaker 1: of the Galaxy one, you know, seeing rown in and
Speaker 1: how they did it. And it was nice that they
Speaker 1: sprinkled it in because I have a bad memory. And
Speaker 1: it was interesting talking to that person because they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was kind a hard scene than being a good
Speaker 1: guy knowing that they served Ronan. But I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I totally forgot, and the Ronan was almost a twist
Speaker 1: to me. And and I think that's kind of what
Speaker 1: it does serve. I think a lot of times people,
Speaker 1: especially cinephiles, forget, is that people aren't as actively thinking
Speaker 1: in movies as they are. They're kind of taking it
Speaker 1: as it comes. I don't think that necessarily means that
Speaker 1: you can just totally dumb down a movie, but I
Speaker 1: definitely think it does serve to not be as nitpicky
Speaker 1: for certain things as I'm okay with, you know, the
Speaker 1: the storyteller being like, let me fill in people who
Speaker 1: may not you know, know this, and I also, you know,
Speaker 1: this is just knowing that something is eventually evil doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it starts out that way too, so that that
Speaker 1: also has some credence for me. What did what did
Speaker 1: y'all feel? It seems like watching your faces both of
Speaker 1: you disagreed about the first twins that necessary. Well. I
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot before, just the idea that
Speaker 1: we have to get used to watching things that are
Speaker 1: built for universal watching as opposed to single issue watching,
Speaker 1: and then no one annoys them, definitely cinephiles who are like,
Speaker 1: this is not a self contained film, and like, right,
Speaker 1: it's part of a universe, like what makes the Marvel
Speaker 1: films great rewatches, Like I recently rewatched the first Avenger
Speaker 1: Captain America movie and then the first Avengers movie, uh
Speaker 1: with Hector Navarro and like just all the little easter
Speaker 1: eggy things like if you rewatch Captain America, the First Avenger,
Speaker 1: there's so much Viking stuff. Then it's like get ready
Speaker 1: for Thor, here's Thor drops. Here's what it was so
Speaker 1: cool to watching it. You felt you were being tied
Speaker 1: into another universe and it has good rewatchability and the
Speaker 1: idea of like, well we're just gonna skip the cream, like,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of what ties us into the rest
Speaker 1: of what's happening. Otherwise you're just like, who is this
Speaker 1: fighter pilot? And why do I really care? When once
Speaker 1: you get to the test react later, you know, you
Speaker 1: could say that brings it in. But I like the
Speaker 1: whole setup, and if we didn't have that set up,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have any gema chan and really, what would
Speaker 1: be the point for me? I In the first twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: the big thing was like as soon as they showed Halla,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh cool, alright, so this feels like
Speaker 1: a distinct planet. It's got its own culture, its own design,
Speaker 1: and I'm on board with this. The only thing was
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes and I was like, actually, I don't
Speaker 1: know what anybody's name is, Like I know because with
Speaker 1: other shows I do. I know that her name is.
Speaker 1: I called it something, I called it verbs, it's bears
Speaker 1: or whatever they were saying, and I didn't I knew
Speaker 1: what Jude Law's name was, but I didn't hear anybody
Speaker 1: say it or anyone like talk to each other with
Speaker 1: like first names, and so I was like, I don't care,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, that must be kind of tough. And
Speaker 1: I had to talk to other people I'm like, did
Speaker 1: I miss something that? Did they say it really fast
Speaker 1: or like name cards came up and I blinked I
Speaker 1: missed it, like and so that part was a little
Speaker 1: tough for me because I thought it was kind of
Speaker 1: fun that they start with like a flashback. You're like,
Speaker 1: you get the idea of like this is Carol. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call her Carol's easier that way her mindset, like
Speaker 1: this is how she sees the scrolls, this is how
Speaker 1: she sees herself as a soldier when they're showing like
Speaker 1: the scroll attacking her and the net net Benning's character,
Speaker 1: whoever that was in that point, Um, I thought that
Speaker 1: was really interesting. I just had some trouble, like I
Speaker 1: didn't have enough time to connect with anybody because I
Speaker 1: was still just trying to figure out who was who
Speaker 1: and what that meant to everybody. I didn't really connect
Speaker 1: with the movie until, like i'd say, like once we
Speaker 1: got to her being taken by the scrolls. So when
Speaker 1: it comes to like the first twenty minutes being unnecessary,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I just wish something was a
Speaker 1: little bit clear, like, um, if we're gonna just compare
Speaker 1: to other like space faring movies like you mentioned Guardians
Speaker 1: the Galaxy. The first thing we saw in that movie
Speaker 1: was Peter getting abducted, and I'm like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: so cool. So as soon as it starts out like
Speaker 1: him on his Indiana Jones like adventure on this planet,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I don't actually don't need to
Speaker 1: know anything else because I didn't just know he started
Speaker 1: here and now he's this He chose as a scared
Speaker 1: kid to become like this adventure they looked up to.
Speaker 1: I just it took me a while connect to Carol
Speaker 1: in the first twenty minutes because I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was happening to two points. So do you think it
Speaker 1: would have been a better film if they had taken
Speaker 1: the Carol Marvel crash scene and just moved it to
Speaker 1: the front, not given us any context, just that conversation
Speaker 1: they have in the plane of like we're going to
Speaker 1: go down and like find the coordinates, and then like
Speaker 1: just seeing the crash, and then we had popped up
Speaker 1: in the next world. Because I see what you're saying
Speaker 1: about having a reason to invest in the character, because
Speaker 1: at first she's just a chick. You can't go to sleep,
Speaker 1: you're like okay, cool. Um, so really like the d
Speaker 1: M and the other point being the idea of us
Speaker 1: not getting into groups. That's kind of continuously a Marvel
Speaker 1: problem of like we'd really like to give fan service
Speaker 1: to our fans, but also we have to keep this
Speaker 1: show movie. They did the same thing with Thora's Companions
Speaker 1: forget what like yeah, the Warriors three, so like they
Speaker 1: their introduction is sort of vague, and you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: the people fight us and they're death kind of vague. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a good point, Like if there was if they
Speaker 1: kind of extended that scene showing the crash and then
Speaker 1: like as soon as you get to scroll, comes and
Speaker 1: shoots and it cuts to like the Marvel logo, maybe
Speaker 1: that would have helped. Also, I'll just put out there
Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy this movie. I actually had a good time.
Speaker 1: At just the beginning of the movie. I was like,
Speaker 1: I actually have no idea. I know there's a war,
Speaker 1: but I all, I'm not connecting with any part of
Speaker 1: it right now. And and that's and that's the thing
Speaker 1: why I'm on the other side of kind of understanding
Speaker 1: like if it started at boom blockbuster, blockbuster boom boom,
Speaker 1: just quick cuts of what we eventually saw in those
Speaker 1: twenty because that's when the movie did kind of ramp
Speaker 1: up for me especially. I mean, but if we're talking
Speaker 1: about under underutilized man Colston, I was like, why are
Speaker 1: you even here? I loved seeing him. I I know
Speaker 1: why we see him because it's for the fans. But
Speaker 1: you know, I I now I want this spinoff movie
Speaker 1: of like Urie and Buddy Cops, you know, getting to
Speaker 1: know each other, but they like, I don't know there
Speaker 1: there's that level of like does every because me coming
Speaker 1: from like you know, a big Kaiju fan, where like
Speaker 1: you don't get much explained in those movies. It's like
Speaker 1: it came from somewhere and it's attacking. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's attacking Japan. You gotta get out of here. I
Speaker 1: don't need to know everything and I don't need everyone
Speaker 1: Colston just being there like he yeah, he was this moving.
Speaker 1: We know who he is, and the only reason he
Speaker 1: matters is because we know who he is. But if
Speaker 1: he was just the rookie and he was introduced in
Speaker 1: that movie, I don't think we'd have as much of
Speaker 1: a problem. And I think that's a good problem to have,
Speaker 1: of wanting to see more of a character just because
Speaker 1: we like. I think I like the risk because they
Speaker 1: said before we even went into the film, we knew
Speaker 1: that it wasn't necessary that she was going to start
Speaker 1: with her powers. We did know that because they said
Speaker 1: that upfront, that she was already going to start with
Speaker 1: her powers. So I like that they did that different
Speaker 1: risk and different take. I want to see more superhero
Speaker 1: films doing that because like everyone is always just like
Speaker 1: an origin story, you know, and it kind of was,
Speaker 1: but they did it in a smart, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: way where it kind of kept you guessing, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like he you know, from start to finish there
Speaker 1: was and it also kind of reiterated what her mind
Speaker 1: is like, so I think by jumbling it up, it
Speaker 1: was almost like that is actually how her mind is,
Speaker 1: though she can't really you know, she keeps having flashbacks,
Speaker 1: she doesn't know where she is. It is confusing. So
Speaker 1: for us that did kind of that choice worked for me,
Speaker 1: them doing that as opposed to a straight like here's
Speaker 1: how she got her powers, then here's you know, the
Speaker 1: middle of her story. Like that, I like that they
Speaker 1: kind of jumbled it up. Yeah, No, I think that's great.
Speaker 1: I mean I've said as much, uh you know on
Speaker 1: movie talk shows. I think I said it on s JU,
Speaker 1: where like we're done with origin stories at this point.
Speaker 1: And also this, I think they pulled off a pretty
Speaker 1: hefty task, this deep into the Marvel Cinematic universe, introducing
Speaker 1: a character and then putting her over. To use wrestling terms,
Speaker 1: which if you're unaware of what putting someone over means,
Speaker 1: it means to basically, uh, make everyone a fan of
Speaker 1: them and to make them seem like they can compete
Speaker 1: with everyone at the top of the roster. I mean
Speaker 1: that ending scene of them just being like boom, like
Speaker 1: she yeah, she's strong, she's she can kick everyone's ass. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know that that was great because that immediately was like,
Speaker 1: oh she it it. I think what it was trying
Speaker 1: to do and accomplished was like, yeah, when she shows up,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's the things are gonna change in the
Speaker 1: Infinity War. And it was real fun and it's felt earned.
Speaker 1: It made so much sense, I mean to you know,
Speaker 1: and now you have to consider that she had since
Speaker 1: the nineties to hone that power, so to show her
Speaker 1: so powerful upstart, up front, and then know that there
Speaker 1: is going to be this time for her to hone
Speaker 1: and get better. It was. It was pretty great. I
Speaker 1: liked it a lot. Um. I guess a lot of
Speaker 1: people have brought up then why if he could have
Speaker 1: called her the whole time? Can do you want to
Speaker 1: tackle some of that? Like I said, I think I've
Speaker 1: seen articles that people have tried to tackle that. If, like,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Nick Ferry, if he could have
Speaker 1: called her that whole time, why did he wait? You know,
Speaker 1: all of these other films that he didn't call her
Speaker 1: interesting well with me. My take for it was like
Speaker 1: and and this is my personal thing is seeing how
Speaker 1: powerful she was by the end of that movie. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is the new Like you don't call
Speaker 1: in the nuke, you know, with these guys the and
Speaker 1: also I felt like it's so interesting for people to
Speaker 1: be like, when why didn't you call it? Like you
Speaker 1: had a bazooka, why don't you use it? It's like
Speaker 1: then that would then why why even make the Avengers initiative?
Speaker 1: If he's just gonna call Nova all the time like
Speaker 1: that was he his The reason he never called it
Speaker 1: was because he'd built the Avengers to use in those situations,
Speaker 1: and they have yet to fail in those situations. They
Speaker 1: they've had hard times, but the Avengers have yet to
Speaker 1: fail until Infinity War. This is their first fail. So
Speaker 1: it does make sense that now that he would call her. Well,
Speaker 1: So she made it pretty clear like emergencies only like emergencies,
Speaker 1: and if you think about it, like Avengers one, you
Speaker 1: don't get too far into the emergency, Like a hole
Speaker 1: opens up in the sky, the Aliens come. Luckily there's
Speaker 1: a team already on the ground to face them, and
Speaker 1: then it's it's over. Avengers to Ultron ramps up so fast,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of Tony Stark's problem, and so Tony
Speaker 1: Startin used to clean up his own mess and the
Speaker 1: Avenger series where they failed, and so they have to
Speaker 1: call Captain Marvel. Now it's just I would I can't
Speaker 1: think of a reason why I would have called her
Speaker 1: any sooner than this right here, like people are disappearing
Speaker 1: a helicopters, cashing to this guy like we need help. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw Kevin fig I
Speaker 1: mean a million press people like grabbed him and tried
Speaker 1: to like pin him down to answer. And I found
Speaker 1: one article where he actually did and basically if he
Speaker 1: kind of came down to like he wanted his team
Speaker 1: and it's like it is the new option. But he
Speaker 1: also threw out like one little like one little gimme
Speaker 1: to the fans where it's like this is a non answer,
Speaker 1: but I like it. He was like, well, maybe he did,
Speaker 1: and we just never saw him click that button, like
Speaker 1: it because it's like also comparatively like three spaceship showed
Speaker 1: up like the Cree ships at the end of this movie,
Speaker 1: and like Carol kind takes care of him in about
Speaker 1: let's call it twenty minutes, like it's not that big
Speaker 1: of a deal and comparatively like a big hole in
Speaker 1: like reality opened up. I'm sure he maybe he did
Speaker 1: click it, like or maybe he just left it in
Speaker 1: his office and he didn't know where to go get it.
Speaker 1: Like I kind of like them playing with that idea
Speaker 1: as well, like maybe he clicked it, and um, if
Speaker 1: you guys, like in the post credit scene they show
Speaker 1: that like it kind of takes her look at little
Speaker 1: bit to come all the way back to Earth wherever
Speaker 1: she is at. And I do have questions about like
Speaker 1: the tech that like they were talking about, like like
Speaker 1: the mcguffin of this movie. We get to that a
Speaker 1: little bit because I just I don't dislike it. I
Speaker 1: was just like the mcguffin to me was earned, and
Speaker 1: I was in, maybe this is my centiphonal brain. But
Speaker 1: from the moment she hacked a Pacific bell phone to
Speaker 1: call back to her command, I was like, Oh, that
Speaker 1: she's gonna hack the beeper. Like I knew from the moment,
Speaker 1: I was like, she she has the tech know how
Speaker 1: to hack a pay phone to return people. Then I
Speaker 1: guess we've already laid the magic mcguffin, like like it
Speaker 1: was established early enough to be like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: how y'all did take a space battery. It was for
Speaker 1: x mods Rest in Peace. X mods, you were the
Speaker 1: best thing Radio Shack had. I don't know why that used.
Speaker 1: It was part of No, it wasn't It couldn't have
Speaker 1: been xnly thought. I really thought when they put when
Speaker 1: he pointed over, I thought he was going to point
Speaker 1: at Circuit City, and I was like, that would have
Speaker 1: the old school nineties. I know. There were some things
Speaker 1: me being an l a head where I was like, okay, uh.
Speaker 1: The train chase scene ends in the seventh Metro station
Speaker 1: and then they exit at the Graham station. I was
Speaker 1: like that that ain't that station. But it's for one
Speaker 1: of the things that like, of course not I know,
Speaker 1: movie matter, but it was cool to be on the
Speaker 1: other side of that because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: movies take place in New York and not not really
Speaker 1: l A l A to where I've been likeing, I
Speaker 1: know exactly, Yeah, the Douglas State. That's what you take
Speaker 1: to go to the l A X. Like I I
Speaker 1: was totally in my l A head and I was
Speaker 1: really excited about it. But yeah, sorry, I was going
Speaker 1: to ask you guys a question. Did you see the
Speaker 1: reason this needed to be sit in the nineties? Oh
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a really, really, really good question.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say that's a really good question
Speaker 1: is because that was kind of uh I did movie
Speaker 1: fights and it was talking about like nineties, and they
Speaker 1: were talking about like, you know, basically pitching another movie
Speaker 1: to be set in the nineties, and does a movie
Speaker 1: He like, what's the reason? And that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I thought for this one, that I had that in
Speaker 1: back of my head and I thought, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily need to be set in the nineties.
Speaker 1: The only reason it would need to be set in
Speaker 1: the nineties is to explain why she's been gone, because
Speaker 1: because if this happened when he was setting up the
Speaker 1: Avengers and she just pieced out, like, it'd be like,
Speaker 1: all right, uh, now come back, Like why wouldn't he
Speaker 1: just ask her to be in the Avengers? So you know,
Speaker 1: but that's such a good question because it almost doesn't.
Speaker 1: The only thing that it kind of justifies to me
Speaker 1: is just why where she's been Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: did wish that she was older when she came back
Speaker 1: like that post credit scene and everyone was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's because in space, you know. I was like no,
Speaker 1: But I really wanted her to have like like white
Speaker 1: hair or like, you know, several strands of white hair
Speaker 1: and be like older. I just thought it would have
Speaker 1: been been cool. But who knows, maybe we'll get an
Speaker 1: older Carol eventually. Now that we're in the looks zone,
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about another take that people have, you know,
Speaker 1: where they say, you know, Bree Larson, you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't sell it for them, like as as Captain Marvel
Speaker 1: and what what's everyone's thought on this. I find this
Speaker 1: to be one of those I like how I opened
Speaker 1: the floor and then immediately about it. I find this
Speaker 1: to be one of those nitpicky nerd things because I
Speaker 1: went through and I was because when I heard this,
Speaker 1: like it didn't necessarily jump out to me. I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess I can kind of see it, but I
Speaker 1: was like, let me look at the comic version and
Speaker 1: see why. And the and the reason I think people
Speaker 1: are acting this way is because she's very angular in
Speaker 1: the the if I can just be completely frank, she
Speaker 1: has that strong lesbian energy the short do just strong face,
Speaker 1: almost like if Jane Lynch was younger, this would be hers.
Speaker 1: And that point, I get it. But also there were
Speaker 1: tons of people in the m c U who at
Speaker 1: first I was like, oh no, like but he grew
Speaker 1: on me, and I'm willing to let that happen for
Speaker 1: Brie Larson because I was on freaking board when she
Speaker 1: was super powered up, flying, blowing stuff up. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like she was any less of a hero than
Speaker 1: anyone than anyone else I've watched. I would say the
Speaker 1: part of maybe the other aspect of missing is like
Speaker 1: she does not I feel like a soldier to me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's a And again, if you're
Speaker 1: you're coming from the comic books and especially from Kellysey
Speaker 1: to conics era of Carol Danvers, there's she what Kelly
Speaker 1: cy wanted. It was a female soldier that we would
Speaker 1: like think of iconically the way we think of like
Speaker 1: a Steve Rogers is like a soldier in our minds,
Speaker 1: like he habits and embodies all the things that make
Speaker 1: you know, the atypical soldier. We don't have that for women.
Speaker 1: If you think about, you know, a female soldier, like
Speaker 1: you probably come up with Aliens is your best Like
Speaker 1: you know, it's a tough chick who like puts others
Speaker 1: down and kind of ruins the fun. And it's like,
Speaker 1: this is kind offer thought. She's like, this is what
Speaker 1: I think of when I think of women in the army.
Speaker 1: And she's like, but that's not how women in the
Speaker 1: army present. And I think a lot of people are disappointed,
Speaker 1: you know, who either have military backgrounds, were looking forward
Speaker 1: to that sort of military strength figure. Um that she
Speaker 1: was a little more gentle and this was a lot
Speaker 1: more about you know, um finding her place in the
Speaker 1: world as opposed to having a mission. I guess, um,
Speaker 1: she sort of stumbles into a mission and is able
Speaker 1: to complete it in it and it's awesome. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't blame Brie Larson for that. Is like an incredible
Speaker 1: actress and we've seen her transform into like eight different
Speaker 1: people believably and amazing. This movie all throughout how a
Speaker 1: tone of sort of like two parties fighting and pulling
Speaker 1: the movie in opposite directions for me, And it felt
Speaker 1: like they brought a lot of women in and then
Speaker 1: we're like, but we don't necessarily a person trust you,
Speaker 1: and so here's like the men to like shape it
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And it feels a little bit
Speaker 1: confused throughout, and I think part of that comes across
Speaker 1: in the writing and the way that Bree Larson was
Speaker 1: trying to find her way into this character. I'm hoping
Speaker 1: Apart two does a lot better. Took us for three
Speaker 1: times to get it right. I'm willing to wait. I
Speaker 1: think Bree Larson is capable to see Marvel consistently proves
Speaker 1: it like if we don't get it right the first time,
Speaker 1: we're going to build it there and it's going to
Speaker 1: be good. Eventually, you're gonna love it. Um, yeah, given time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you'd find like I mean, I like that the
Speaker 1: actors and the movies kind of grow around each other
Speaker 1: and they find something that like, yeah, that's the best
Speaker 1: example of Chris Emsworth because like not that he was bad,
Speaker 1: I just couldn't remember what he was doing in all
Speaker 1: of those movies. He had two other ones too. It
Speaker 1: took him so long or Marvel so long to figure
Speaker 1: out what worked for him and for me in this movie,
Speaker 1: Like I totally agree with you where it's like the
Speaker 1: movies doesn't know what it's trying to do the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's setting the stage, it's answering some questions and also
Speaker 1: like maybe future stuff like that felt like last thing
Speaker 1: that they had on their mind. It was like more
Speaker 1: like get to the ventures and we'll figure it out
Speaker 1: if we get a part two. But for her, it
Speaker 1: was so cool that like you're able to see her
Speaker 1: have fun, especially when she was able to like power
Speaker 1: up and like she's having a good time murder a
Speaker 1: lot of people like being honest, but like like straight up,
Speaker 1: like one of them might be a friend if you
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to them. More like but whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's whatever. But then she but like last points,
Speaker 1: like she ended up like having being like having really
Speaker 1: badass moments, especially against like Jude Law. But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was I was just trying to plus one that
Speaker 1: idea and Joel's immensely. It really did feel like there
Speaker 1: was just two takes on a feminist movie trying to
Speaker 1: go because you had heavy handed moments and then you
Speaker 1: had some real strong, subtle moments. That was like and
Speaker 1: it really made me think the heavy handed stuff probably
Speaker 1: came from the men involved and the subtle one came
Speaker 1: from the because there were subtle in The reason I
Speaker 1: say this just from an outside of observation is the
Speaker 1: heavy handed one looks like a take I would have
Speaker 1: on what women go through, like not being able to
Speaker 1: go cart some reason, like you're already in the car
Speaker 1: and racing, but now for some reason your dad's against it.
Speaker 1: You can't climb up the ropes in the military, even
Speaker 1: though military women do that every day. Versus that final
Speaker 1: scene when he when he's like all right, fight me,
Speaker 1: Like that couldn't be a closer analogy to the debate
Speaker 1: me stuff that women deal with online and for her
Speaker 1: to like just blastom and be like I have nothing
Speaker 1: to prove to you. I'm not gonna fistfight you. Who
Speaker 1: are you? You know? And that's and it was so
Speaker 1: beautiful because even though I saw it coming, it's what
Speaker 1: you wanted to see. It's it's like, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: something that every day you you see and that's and
Speaker 1: that's what makes it really because one of the big things,
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard and I'm not gonna like knock
Speaker 1: this idea because it's been women who feel pandered too
Speaker 1: in some moments of how heavy handed it is. But
Speaker 1: one of the things where that the the um is it,
Speaker 1: the no doubt, um I'm a Girl song, right Like
Speaker 1: they're like, oh my gosh. I was like, honestly by
Speaker 1: that point in the movie, it's earned because it's been
Speaker 1: so hokey throughout, you know, like why why be you know,
Speaker 1: like I to aim, like, all right, we couldn't have
Speaker 1: just an epic, you know, sounding song, but go for it.
Speaker 1: I disagree so much. I guess the Girl is an epic,
Speaker 1: especially if you were coming up in the nineties. It's
Speaker 1: it's like seme girl like headbanger like honestly, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it would have worked so much, but to me.
Speaker 1: It's not the song's fault. It is the editing's fault.
Speaker 1: That fight is maybe one of the worst fights I've
Speaker 1: ever seen edited in Marvel movie history, and it sucks.
Speaker 1: It's confusing because the very next scene is the aerial
Speaker 1: fight scene, and it's edited. When Monica makes Mariah makes
Speaker 1: that spin like through the cavern, I screamed, like I
Speaker 1: was like that ever was like such a tight race
Speaker 1: and it felt very Star Wars and how it was constructed.
Speaker 1: But the fight scene, You're just like, this doesn't go
Speaker 1: to the timing of the music, and I don't understand
Speaker 1: the fight was coordinated well. It just was edited really terribly. Also,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes kind of hard to just see what's happening
Speaker 1: in the movie. It was weird the way that they
Speaker 1: shot and captured a lot of this, like in the beginning, uh,
Speaker 1: you trying to figu out where scrolls are They're trying
Speaker 1: to get their agent back whatever, and like there's a
Speaker 1: double cross. But also couldn't see what was happening because
Speaker 1: it's like a dark planet and it's everything's not lit
Speaker 1: well until she powers up and you can kind of
Speaker 1: see the surroundings. And the same thing for the end
Speaker 1: fight as well, but also that song reminds me of
Speaker 1: Romeo and Michell's high school union, which my sister forever.
Speaker 1: I love that movie. I was like, I don't care
Speaker 1: what's happening right now. I really I totally agreed, But
Speaker 1: like I used to play that song all the time,
Speaker 1: still play that song all the time. It's such like
Speaker 1: a I mean, it was just like you know, um,
Speaker 1: it was basically like I'm I don't know. It was
Speaker 1: our empowering song. I feel like in the nineties that
Speaker 1: like her best fashion, like at the height of her
Speaker 1: like dope fashion. It's like the lyrics resonate, especially if
Speaker 1: you're a girl and your constin you told don't do
Speaker 1: that or sit like a lady, which really sends shivers
Speaker 1: up my spine. I hate it. Um it just or
Speaker 1: that you're this pretty little, delicate thing that can't go
Speaker 1: out alone and can't drive late at night and all
Speaker 1: the things that it's saying. I actually did really love
Speaker 1: her scene where that if he was talking about where
Speaker 1: she gets up all those times. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: just I know, really it really got me. It got
Speaker 1: and it got me. In the trailer, I saw somebody
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but somebody tweeted when the first trailer
Speaker 1: dropped in they were like, that scene is going to
Speaker 1: get me. And then the more I thought about it,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, all those times that she got
Speaker 1: knocked down that she got back up, and even thinking
Speaker 1: about it, I was like, I'm getting emotional thinking about it.
Speaker 1: But it also reminds me about what I like to
Speaker 1: call the Mulan seeing, you know, and you know, when
Speaker 1: she is like be a man or whatever. And then
Speaker 1: in that final the end of that song and she
Speaker 1: is up up at the top of the pole and
Speaker 1: she's like and all the times that she fell and
Speaker 1: had you know, all the she's training on her own
Speaker 1: and got back up. Yeah. I I did actually really
Speaker 1: like that scene a lot. I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the most what I will remember. So many things I'll remember,
Speaker 1: but that is one of the most iconic ones I
Speaker 1: think remember for that and where the movie works best
Speaker 1: is when it folds back into Kelly Sue's like main
Speaker 1: thing like that. Marvel has made it very clear they
Speaker 1: don't want to touch like anything that's icky or too dark,
Speaker 1: like they that's why we didn't start with Hank Pim
Speaker 1: as aunt Man because you know, in the comics he
Speaker 1: abuses why like an alcohol problem. In Kelly Sue's version
Speaker 1: of Captain Marvel, Carol is an alcoholic and she's in
Speaker 1: recovery and hire further faster. So much relates to finding
Speaker 1: that recovery and the closest we get to touching any
Speaker 1: of that are these falls. And the idea of like, sorry, Kelly,
Speaker 1: see that. My interview was like we talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: our our own addiction issues, and she's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the main thing is like you're just not broken, And
Speaker 1: so that resonates throughout the entire scene, and it pivots
Speaker 1: what Carol has been told this whole time of like
Speaker 1: if you fall, it's over, which is like the most
Speaker 1: devastating thing you can tell a person is like if
Speaker 1: you fail once, you're not going to get another try.
Speaker 1: And so this idea of like her learning like oh
Speaker 1: I already did this, Like I already know how to
Speaker 1: do it and what I'm doing and it's so great,
Speaker 1: and so for that to be the thing that unlocks
Speaker 1: her power is it's just like it like radiates it.
Speaker 1: Like you feel that scene with the net Benning where
Speaker 1: she's like, um, you're just human or whatever, and she's like,
Speaker 1: that's right, I am, and it's like, I I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so to me. It's so relatable that you can
Speaker 1: be not not broken, but you can be flawed you.
Speaker 1: And that's what I love about these characters is that
Speaker 1: they are heavily flawed. And I think, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we're moving away from having pure, in my opinion, like
Speaker 1: pure unattainable superheroes to someone that is like, no, I
Speaker 1: am human, No, I have suffered these things and I
Speaker 1: still am able to push through. Did you see on
Speaker 1: the Red Carpet where Bree was being interviewed by a
Speaker 1: little girl, Yeah, I know, Okay for those of you
Speaker 1: who didn't see it, she's like, you know, what are
Speaker 1: your your real superpowers? Asking Bree like as a human,
Speaker 1: like what are your powers? And be like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can eat a lot. And I don't remember what
Speaker 1: all her answers were, who girls, I don't really have
Speaker 1: superpowers and be like that's not true, that's not true.
Speaker 1: You definitely have powers. It was like Hans pretty well
Speaker 1: and I guess I like this and this, and she's
Speaker 1: like those are all superpowers and I was like, the
Speaker 1: children are gonna be okay. There's so many like role
Speaker 1: models and like idols and and it's, uh, it's really
Speaker 1: cool to be like alive. And if you have a
Speaker 1: daughter in this moment, like is it thrilling? Is it
Speaker 1: exciting for you? I mean there's a lot of doube
Speaker 1: stuff from Naomi that you know you got, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got Captain Marvell, she got sureI she has like oh koh,
Speaker 1: yeah she's there's' and Moana she's already deep ingested that.
Speaker 1: And we're getting frozen too. That seems like it's taken
Speaker 1: a dark turn. Question. I saw that trailer before the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this? Is this like Fellowship of
Speaker 1: the Frozen? Uh, like I'm here for it, but what's
Speaker 1: going on? But yeah, no, it's that's one thing that
Speaker 1: I kind of find people nit picking on that because
Speaker 1: we were in a very interesting place with Captain Marvel.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of cheesy ass fan service e
Speaker 1: things all the other movies get to do that you
Speaker 1: get away with because all the guys in their nostalgia
Speaker 1: for it. Carol Danvers is fairly new. There isn't that
Speaker 1: that much nostalgia porn, especially if you're you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll just say a dude in general. But we you know,
Speaker 1: looking at you bearded guy who's angry. Uh. But so
Speaker 1: when these moves, when the movie does these cheesy things
Speaker 1: like you know, her best friend's daughter picking out the
Speaker 1: the different colors, and when there's like those like looking
Speaker 1: in the face where it's like we gotta get them, Like,
Speaker 1: it's easy to be like, oh, that's so dumb and cheesy,
Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, but that's not for you. That
Speaker 1: literally is not for you. That's for Naomi sitting in
Speaker 1: the seat watching this and feeling empowered by something like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because it's it's interesting to
Speaker 1: be on the outside of this conversation, which is the
Speaker 1: same conversation I was having for Black Panther. Had open
Speaker 1: discussion in the stream about a spoiler free Captain Marvel
Speaker 1: review and of one one folk had to come in there,
Speaker 1: uh and be mad. And you know, he eventually outed himself.
Speaker 1: He was a white dude, he straight up said, because
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he was talking about how oppressed
Speaker 1: white dudes are right now. Um. But anyway, what was
Speaker 1: interesting was that he one I I immediately because I
Speaker 1: he came in we're having an open discussion. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to the criticisms. I'm open to the criticisms.
Speaker 1: You don't have to like every movie. You just have
Speaker 1: to have valid criticism. That's all I ask. And he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I didn't like the movie. And I
Speaker 1: was like, he's like, no, he said the movies trash
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, why is it trash? It's
Speaker 1: like I didn't like the actress. I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been hearing a lot of that, just kind of
Speaker 1: this discussion we just had about Breed Larson and all this. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was like, so what what didn't work for you?
Speaker 1: And it goes, well, I didn't like what she said
Speaker 1: When she said that. I was like, well, that's not
Speaker 1: a criticism criticism of her, and now you're choosing to
Speaker 1: hate the movie. And then and then it led to
Speaker 1: a whole fight because luckily, you know, uh pup Games
Speaker 1: one of my friends who she is a female, and
Speaker 1: she was in there, and she obviously took words with
Speaker 1: him because here he eventually saying he was like, it's
Speaker 1: not He's like, it's not empowering to women. He was like,
Speaker 1: she was like, you can't say that, how would you know?
Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of the same thing where like
Speaker 1: you you had a lot of people mad about all
Speaker 1: the praise that Black Panther were in like literal YouTube,
Speaker 1: white guys being like people acting like this is empowering
Speaker 1: the black people, Like you wouldn't know, You generally wouldn't know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not even saying like you know, you can't say,
Speaker 1: or I'm saying it is completely utterly impossible for you
Speaker 1: to know, because that would be like if if if
Speaker 1: you saw this is the worst example but always I'm
Speaker 1: on a roll and I'm not gonna stop. If you
Speaker 1: saw I am Sam and was like, this is inspiring
Speaker 1: the SAMs. I can't tell you that that's not inspiring
Speaker 1: to Sam's because I am not Sam. I am Iffy.
Speaker 1: That is not my name, That is not who I am.
Speaker 1: That is not my identity. So if someone says it
Speaker 1: is inspiring to a specific identity and that person of
Speaker 1: that identity, you're not smarter, You're not outside of the box.
Speaker 1: Who can and you're you're you're the you're the smart
Speaker 1: centrist who can be like, oh, that's just a corporation
Speaker 1: trying to get you. Because a lot of these people
Speaker 1: who trying because I've seen so many takes online about
Speaker 1: being like, oh, this course, this multibillion dollar corporation is
Speaker 1: so inspiring. Your whole life is built on corporations and
Speaker 1: cartoons built to sell toys. You do, you are the
Speaker 1: pot calling the kettle black, bro, You cannot say that
Speaker 1: as if you call yourself a nerd, if you believe
Speaker 1: yourself the nerd, you have immediately given given up all
Speaker 1: rights to say that. Someone can't be inspired because it
Speaker 1: comes from a huge corporation. Because everything, the core foundation
Speaker 1: of almost everything marketed to nerds came out about first
Speaker 1: as something to meant to sell toys. If you don't
Speaker 1: believe us, go listen to the g I. Joe episode,
Speaker 1: listen to the Ninja Turtle's episode, Go listen to the
Speaker 1: Transformers episode. To any everything that our childhood of nerd
Speaker 1: um is based off it, and that doesn't make it
Speaker 1: a bad thing, But that does mean that that excuse
Speaker 1: you're trying to use and the only thing that it
Speaker 1: comes from his jealousy is whack. It's trash and it
Speaker 1: doesn't make you cool. And oh they're a I don't
Speaker 1: know it so nerd white nerds being mad about a
Speaker 1: black panther was like Elon Musk being mad about me
Speaker 1: getting five bucks. Like that's that's what it is, because
Speaker 1: you have a wealth of knowledge and no one, no
Speaker 1: one is blaming you from that because the same people
Speaker 1: you're hating on are also consuming that and appreciates it,
Speaker 1: sometimes in some cases even more than you. So there's
Speaker 1: no reason to be mad. Why Why Like just the
Speaker 1: spotlight is on someone for two seconds and it just
Speaker 1: makes you uncomfortable. You should really talk to a therapist
Speaker 1: and see why that is. I hope they do. We
Speaker 1: have to te a really quick break and we will
Speaker 1: be right back to get more, to get into more
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel, and we are back. I did want to say,
Speaker 1: as far as people saying any anytime anyone says dialogue
Speaker 1: in a in a superhero film is corny, I'm like,
Speaker 1: have you read comments? I mean, have you seen the
Speaker 1: dialogue in every comic book ever? There's so many puns,
Speaker 1: There's so many it's so corny, and that's what we
Speaker 1: love about it. So I don't ever want to hear
Speaker 1: that from anyone. Um. But also like if he was
Speaker 1: saying it's not always for it has to be marketed.
Speaker 1: Not all of those moments are for us, and I'm
Speaker 1: really tired of I don't know what happened to the
Speaker 1: generation above us and our generation to think that everything
Speaker 1: has to be for us specifically, because it's just not.
Speaker 1: It's just not. I mean, this is sorry to cut
Speaker 1: you off, but I do kind of see why. And
Speaker 1: it's very interesting because if you think about nerds, if
Speaker 1: you think like we're lucky to be We're lucky to
Speaker 1: be like people paid to be nerds. We're lucky to
Speaker 1: be grown up in this time where nerdom is starting
Speaker 1: to become mainstream. But if you think about where we
Speaker 1: came from, back when you were getting made fun of
Speaker 1: for liking DBZ, when we were getting made fun of
Speaker 1: buying comics, it felt like it was for us because
Speaker 1: no one else liked it but us, so to see it.
Speaker 1: And there's two two paths. You can take the path
Speaker 1: that we've taken, where we're excited for people to enjoy
Speaker 1: this thing we've loved all our lives and and relinquished
Speaker 1: ownership because we never owned it to begin with. Or
Speaker 1: you take the dark side to keep it nerdy and
Speaker 1: you want to keep it for yourself and you don't
Speaker 1: even really want to keep it for yourself. You just
Speaker 1: want to trickle it out just enough so that you're
Speaker 1: always on top, because you run the risk of your
Speaker 1: nerdom being saturated for someone to be a better nerd
Speaker 1: that you. I don't think that's true. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's a real thing, but I think people think that.
Speaker 1: I object hard to the idea that, oh, you people
Speaker 1: weren't nerdy before. My mother is a star Trek fan,
Speaker 1: but she would never go to a Trek convention. She's
Speaker 1: like a black lady who was constantly you know what,
Speaker 1: you can't be a nerd, like you don't really watch
Speaker 1: the stuff, and she didn't have an encyclopedic knowledge of
Speaker 1: the show. She just added like just adamantly loved watching it.
Speaker 1: And I feel like nerdspaces have always and maybe will
Speaker 1: always have these gatekeepers who were just like, I own
Speaker 1: this more than you because I'm able to recite more
Speaker 1: knowledge on it than you. And I think that that's
Speaker 1: so crazy, like how there's a whole series of Batman
Speaker 1: movies where I'm like, that's not my Batman, and yet
Speaker 1: if you enjoy them, I'm so happy to let you
Speaker 1: just have that like it's so cool. It's cool that
Speaker 1: you get your Batman. I understand the feeling of seeing
Speaker 1: your character done right on screen. I understand being like,
Speaker 1: that's the one I love so much, and now they're
Speaker 1: here and it's so cool. I could interact with them.
Speaker 1: My batman would never held a gun. But if that's
Speaker 1: your Batman, like enjoy that, like love it. But then
Speaker 1: you can't be mad when I have criticisms and critiques
Speaker 1: of it. It's just still crazy to me to say
Speaker 1: you can't be a nerd, Like there's no lock on
Speaker 1: this door. You can't stop me from calling myself a nerd,
Speaker 1: from participating in your nerd culture, from buying these comic books,
Speaker 1: from loving it, and you're certainly not going to be
Speaker 1: able to And I think it's such a small point,
Speaker 1: like percentage of nerd population that's like we don't want
Speaker 1: you here, and I almost want to like never talk
Speaker 1: about them again, just like, well, you can't do anything.
Speaker 1: You haven't done anything. Well they haven't, because she did
Speaker 1: open up so as much as the trolls try to
Speaker 1: take her down. And we talked about in our Captain
Speaker 1: Marvel episode about how Raten Tomatoes had to change their
Speaker 1: site because of this film. Um, but she made five
Speaker 1: hundred million worldwide. Uh, this this her debut, So that
Speaker 1: that is, uh, that is that we should Yeah, the trolls,
Speaker 1: like you were saying, it is a minority, as much
Speaker 1: as it seems really loud on Twitter. I wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of segue over if we could talk about two
Speaker 1: people that I wanted to talk about, well too, one
Speaker 1: and a half people. One would be Mariah um and
Speaker 1: the other is Goose. And so with Goose really fascinating.
Speaker 1: I've seen so many memes aside some the fact that
Speaker 1: we now know that that's how Nick Ferry got his
Speaker 1: eye that way, but somebody did a meme of Thanos
Speaker 1: because the scratch he has, that claws scratch on his
Speaker 1: face and then they put that with Goose next to it. Um.
Speaker 1: So in our Captain Marvel episode, Tiffany was explaining that
Speaker 1: they have a time pocket in their in their mouth.
Speaker 1: So do you think that that might affect do you
Speaker 1: think that that might come into play? Is Goose still
Speaker 1: around in current day? Where is he? And Yeah, if
Speaker 1: we think about the last time we saw the timestone,
Speaker 1: and it was the one thing the doctor Strange didn't
Speaker 1: want yeah, Doctorane didn't want to give up, and then
Speaker 1: he was like, this is the only way. And it's
Speaker 1: such a huge thing about the time Stone, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if it came into effect later. So interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I hope he's Goose is around. It's
Speaker 1: it was probably my favorite part of the movie as
Speaker 1: a character. I had the most fun with how they
Speaker 1: introduced that, how they tease like the surprise because the movie,
Speaker 1: we knew where Carol was gonna end up basically everybody
Speaker 1: else like bad guys probably gonna die and like good
Speaker 1: guys probably gonna live. But with Goose, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, this could be a fun like last
Speaker 1: minute surprise for the movie, and it ended up being that.
Speaker 1: So I hope that it's Goose is still around for
Speaker 1: every future movie. It's such a good surprise and such
Speaker 1: a fun gift to the fans. And now you have
Speaker 1: an animal sidekick, Like I feel like nobody else got
Speaker 1: animal sidekicks. I love. That's one of my favorite parts
Speaker 1: of comics, Like Batman's got like the bat cow and
Speaker 1: He's got the bat Dog, and Superman's got the Crypto
Speaker 1: and everything. Dude, that it's got so many animals. I
Speaker 1: love that Marvel finally has that totally um as far
Speaker 1: as because Joel, I've seen you been tweeting about Maria
Speaker 1: and uh and I like the fact that they had
Speaker 1: they set it up for people that don't know Monica Rambo,
Speaker 1: who is Captain Marvel in the comics, but that is
Speaker 1: her daughter, that is Maria's daughter, So it looks like
Speaker 1: we're going to eventually get Monica as Captain Marvel. When
Speaker 1: Monica was like, yeah, when Day'm gonna be like just
Speaker 1: like you go on Antiquaria and furious, like only if
Speaker 1: you glow, Like here's like I might build a spaceship.
Speaker 1: You don't know. It's like you're right, you don't know.
Speaker 1: We're not about empowering moments, even though that's like nail
Speaker 1: on the head. I was like, you tell little girls
Speaker 1: that tell them they can like fight back with their
Speaker 1: words and like they can dream big and like Mariah's
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. Leshanna Lynch showed up and she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be across from an Oscar winner. Every scene,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill it. Every scene, I'm just gonna nail it.
Speaker 1: She outperformed literally everybody every time she was on screen.
Speaker 1: She was so great. Um, I hope Monica, if you
Speaker 1: think about is gonna be in her like early thirties
Speaker 1: when we get back. Um, I'm hoping that she's done
Speaker 1: the fighter pilot stuff. I hope that she's maybe secretly
Speaker 1: been trying to prepare to become an Avenger or reach
Speaker 1: that superhero level. I want to see her beyond her stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know how much Old Black don't cracks,
Speaker 1: So maybe Mariah also didn't age during that. After this
Speaker 1: movie and Aquaman and Spider Verse, I have nephews who
Speaker 1: are like they're all under nine and so like they
Speaker 1: were like they kept asking me because they're trying to
Speaker 1: get in the comics. Now the older one can read
Speaker 1: to the younger like nephews and the niece and so
Speaker 1: they're super excited. And after this movie, it was great
Speaker 1: that they asked about Monica because they're like, who's that
Speaker 1: going to be? And I was like a spectrum and
Speaker 1: like that she's got like a new name now and
Speaker 1: she's so pee it's crazy, it's insane the show that
Speaker 1: kind of character in the movie and try to explain
Speaker 1: to the kids. That was really hard for me, Like
Speaker 1: she's like all energy, but she's like a person and
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is you know what doesn't matter. She
Speaker 1: can shoot stuff and sometimes she can turn like electricity.
Speaker 1: That was the easiest way for them to like to
Speaker 1: boil it down, and they got so excited and that's
Speaker 1: all that really matters to me at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Like I had, she was that young girl
Speaker 1: in the movie was amazing and she like out of
Speaker 1: all the characters like Minus, like Taylor's like connected like
Speaker 1: I got was able to understand his stuff really quick.
Speaker 1: Her whole character and her excitement for the movie made
Speaker 1: me more excited. So I can't wait for more of
Speaker 1: her future movies and then just another thing on Rambo.
Speaker 1: So if you if you're real, real excited. Well. In
Speaker 1: two thousand nine, she appeared in the limited series Marvel Divas,
Speaker 1: which was partly inspired by Sex in the City, where
Speaker 1: she was one of the main characters of Black Cats,
Speaker 1: hell Cat and Fire Stars. And there's nothing I want
Speaker 1: to write more than the pilot to Marvel Divas for Disney.
Speaker 1: Plus Uh, let's go Disney. I know you listening, give
Speaker 1: me that money. But yeah, just so you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: the series is four main storylines that are collect connected
Speaker 1: to a larger story. Hellcat deals with her ex husband Damien,
Speaker 1: hell Storm's attempt to reinto her life, Photon is dealing
Speaker 1: with an X, helps brother Voodoo retrieve a powerful artifact,
Speaker 1: and Black Cat return considers a return to the life
Speaker 1: of crime and Firestar graduate student studying art history deals
Speaker 1: with her radiation powers giving her breast cancer. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a nice short series rights covering all that.
Speaker 1: Come home, man, and look, I will get it. If
Speaker 1: you want someone like Danny or Joel to write it
Speaker 1: instead of me, I totally understand. Yeah, I'm in whatever,
Speaker 1: Disney Plus once. I'm here for you. Please. Um I
Speaker 1: did like, I did like the pulp fiction references that
Speaker 1: happened throughout the movie, and I love all the memes
Speaker 1: that have been popping up. So I'm a meme queen.
Speaker 1: I do think that we have to wrap up now. Review.
Speaker 1: Let's wrap this up, so where can people find you saying, well,
Speaker 1: before we go, you have to end this like we
Speaker 1: in every review out of ten nerties is did we
Speaker 1: move it to ten? It was? Was it fine? I
Speaker 1: have no idea it was? I said five? And then
Speaker 1: you may be bumping up to ten, so it is
Speaker 1: ten nerties out of ten nerdies. What do you review movie?
Speaker 1: We'll start with Sam. I'd give it. I think I
Speaker 1: give it like a solid eight out of ten nerdies,
Speaker 1: like a solid like B minus, because there's a lot
Speaker 1: that I enjoyed. There's like mainly when it came to
Speaker 1: story stuff, I didn't really know where we're going sometimes
Speaker 1: or who was who. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I had a blast. And I recommend it to people,
Speaker 1: and not even just like you gotta watch all twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen of these movies. You can watch this and have
Speaker 1: a good time totally. Ah, I'm gonna be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: price this right you and say seven and a half nerdies. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I can't give it like a full B because
Speaker 1: just so it was confused. It was just a confused movie.
Speaker 1: But from the messages to the visual aesthetic of just
Speaker 1: her powers was really fun and um, I just oh god,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for part two. I just feel like
Speaker 1: we're going to keep getting closer and better and more defined. Um,
Speaker 1: you think that we're going to get higher further fast,
Speaker 1: were better. You don't have to feel bad about seven
Speaker 1: point five out of ten, because I'm definitely giving it
Speaker 1: a hard seven out of ten. Uh, we're going down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like I said it was super fun. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it. I like what it's I like what
Speaker 1: it means for people. For me, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: It felt like they were trying to tell too many movies.
Speaker 1: And then honestly, the subtle feminist moments really made the
Speaker 1: heavy handed ones feel overdone. I was like, if that
Speaker 1: last moment would have felt so much stronger if you weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, hitting it over the head. And I know
Speaker 1: what it sounds like being a man and saying that,
Speaker 1: but I'm just for me. It's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: I am to borrow from uc B playing at the
Speaker 1: top of our intelligence, we don't we we we can
Speaker 1: make these subtle movies. There's so much you had to
Speaker 1: play with, and I think it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with the movie itself and more to do with so
Speaker 1: many hands in the pot. You have so many storytellers.
Speaker 1: People want to tell the stories the other way. Uh,
Speaker 1: seven writers to direct? Yeah, yeah, there, and you can
Speaker 1: tell because there's a lot of fat to trim, you know,
Speaker 1: And but all in all, still a fun movie. We
Speaker 1: got a buddy cop movie from Marvel guys. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was one of my favorite parts. Also, just really quick,
Speaker 1: the way they narrowed down her origin of making it
Speaker 1: cucumbersome sometimes in the comics, the way they narrowed it
Speaker 1: down and made it originally m C. I was like, actually,
Speaker 1: this is awesome because I have no idea what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do with some hurdles to clear this movie. It's
Speaker 1: hard to be mad. And how they came to this conclusion. Oh, um,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it an eight out of ten nerdies.
Speaker 1: I really did. Um gosh, those the final like thirty
Speaker 1: minutes of it were so kick so I guess that's
Speaker 1: the Oh. I might have to get believed for that one.
Speaker 1: But um, I just I loved seeing her in the
Speaker 1: height of her um. I loved seeing her in the
Speaker 1: height of her power. And I really am curious to
Speaker 1: see and man, that post credit scene when she dropped
Speaker 1: in everyone, when she dropped in with the Avengers, everybody
Speaker 1: and the even I like gasp, like we knew it
Speaker 1: was going to happen, and I still gasp at it.
Speaker 1: I was just like, there's that moment is what made
Speaker 1: me believe we could get a soldier out of Free
Speaker 1: Larson soon because the determination, the look she gives them
Speaker 1: of just where's Nick, Like I don't know who any
Speaker 1: of you are getting here to do a thing was
Speaker 1: so powerful and like how much like I've been who
Speaker 1: hasn't been excited for endgame? But like seeing that, I
Speaker 1: was like, can it be now? Like I am ready
Speaker 1: right now, I'm gonna see hopefully we see Goose too.
Speaker 1: Our flirking um that I think is where can everyone
Speaker 1: catch you? Uh? Just follow me on Twitter, guys, it's
Speaker 1: just at Joela Nique at Sam Basher and you can
Speaker 1: listen to my podcast only Super Answers. Danny was just
Speaker 1: on and we talked about Alita, so that was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. I'm at miss Danny Fernandez um, and
Speaker 1: check me out at Wonder Column there Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 1: I'm tweeting and instagram on my I have my panels
Speaker 1: and stuff listed, so yeah, and you know me if
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Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram. H yeah, just just yeah, check
Speaker 1: on socials for shows and all that good stuff. And
Speaker 1: if he's on Twitch. Thanks to all the nerd fan
Speaker 1: getting that discord. It's it's it's getting rella active. It's been,
Speaker 1: it's been lots of discussion there. We're gonna keep the
Speaker 1: fun alive. Uh if he's uh all right, I don't
Speaker 1: know what Danny's looking at. Uh if he's on Twitch,
Speaker 1: but definitely, Uh, come hang with Salt Squad. Uh discord
Speaker 1: dot g G slash Salt Squad. We're in there. There's
Speaker 1: lots of folders. Sometimes I'm gaming with Dan, sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: chatting with Danny. Lots of fun stuff, lots of nerd
Speaker 1: fan popping up and having the huge nerdy discussion and sharing.
Speaker 1: Nerdy peeps keep it from their working all be kind
Speaker 1: to each other and stay nerdy