WEBVTT - BONUS EP: 'Captain Marvel' Film Review **SPOILERS** 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:13.880 Hello, and welcome to another episode of Nerdificent. Actually not 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:18.639 an episode, but a spoiler review. This is our spoiler 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.880 review for Captain Marvel. Y'all ask for it. It is here. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.120 If you haven't seen it yet, one go listen to 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.160 our Captain Marvel episode that we did with Tiffany Millius, 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:30.160 who is the owner of the Perky Nerd Comic bookshop. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.959 That doesn't have spoilers. It just has her going over 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:35.479 the history of the character, where to start with the 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.280 comics if you're trying to get into the comics, So 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:42.760 definitely recommend that. But this is Iffian Eyes spoiler heavy review. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.440 I know, yeah, no, it'll be a good time. I think, uh, 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:52.040 I think, uh yeah, it'll be great. Yeah, it's fresh 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.800 on my brain. I went to see it last night. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.080 It was super fun. I you know, I had a 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.680 good time. It's fun to see a movie after there's 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.120 just so much discussion to be had around it, and also, 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.759 you know, just multiple different takes. You know, you don't 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.080 I typically do like to go and fresh headed, but 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.440 you know, it was interesting seeing the especially knowing that 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.319 I was going to do the spoiler review to see 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.320 certain criticisms people have valid ones and we'll get into 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.600 that soon. Um, valid criticisms and kind of going in 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.040 with that in my head and seeing did I care 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.360 or not? Because I sometimes I feel like there are 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.720 a lot of valid criticisms, but that doesn't necessarily means 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.360 that it will impact the movie the same way for 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.880 me or you you know. Uh, So that's it was nice. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.240 It was I got to highlight all the things, and 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.360 I feel like I get to actively address uh some 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:47.280 some some things people may think, uh knowing some things 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.360 people may think. Yeah, and joining us, we have entertainment 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:59.240 critic Joel Monique, you were on our and we also 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.800 have Samsher who is the host of Only Stupid Answers 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.080 and New rock Stars. Sam You recognized his voice from 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.000 our flash episode that was blast. So I'm excited to 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.679 talk about this movie. Yes, um, I'm ready y'all to 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:18.160 go higher, further, faster. Well look at it? Do you 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:23.360 really love my puns? Um? Um? Yeah, So let's get in. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.000 I guess I wanted to start with, did y'all read 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:30.280 any of the comics or no, just the okay comics 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.360 that this kind of iteration of Carol Dammers is based 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.160 off of gotch I've only done more recent ones I 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:37.960 have never read, like the iconic one that kind of 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.040 like thrusted Carol into like the forefront of the comics 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.440 as Captain Marvel. The more recent ones have been a 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.320 ton of fun. She was also part of like the 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.320 big Marvel events Civil War two, which really kind of 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.680 nuke their character. But they're doing they're doing backflips to 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.200 make it better again. So yeah, I'm a big fan. Yeah, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.200 and have you all seen her in Marvel Rising? She's 0:02:54.200 --> 0:03:00.200 in Marvel Rising? Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, well, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:02.960 if you where do you want to start? I don't know. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:06.120 I guess I guess we'll just start, you know, how 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.000 do we do? Man? I guess we'll just start kind 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.320 of with the top of the movie, just initially because 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.800 that was cool to me. That means the first I 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:16.800 think one of the things I will say, the first 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:22.280 criticism I heard, uh and and what about was someone 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.880 said that they felt like the first twenty minutes of 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.840 the movie they felt it was like unnecessary, And for me, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.840 I I'm I'm on a weird place with that where 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.600 it's like I can see that, But I also as 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.400 a fan of the comics, that was like you know, 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.280 creep porn, you know, like you got to see like 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.240 all of the Cree Empire. And I think it just 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.480 kind of like gave us some juicy backstory for Guardians 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.880 of the Galaxy one, you know, seeing rown in and 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.720 how they did it. And it was nice that they 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:56.560 sprinkled it in because I have a bad memory. And 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.240 it was interesting talking to that person because they're like, oh, 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.520 it was kind a hard scene than being a good 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.920 guy knowing that they served Ronan. But I was like, oh, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.920 I totally forgot, and the Ronan was almost a twist 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.920 to me. And and I think that's kind of what 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.800 it does serve. I think a lot of times people, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:18.200 especially cinephiles, forget, is that people aren't as actively thinking 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.520 in movies as they are. They're kind of taking it 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.719 as it comes. I don't think that necessarily means that 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.919 you can just totally dumb down a movie, but I 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.080 definitely think it does serve to not be as nitpicky 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:32.680 for certain things as I'm okay with, you know, the 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.920 the storyteller being like, let me fill in people who 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:39.080 may not you know, know this, and I also, you know, 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:43.880 this is just knowing that something is eventually evil doesn't 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.400 mean it starts out that way too, so that that 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.480 also has some credence for me. What did what did 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.039 y'all feel? It seems like watching your faces both of 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:56.480 you disagreed about the first twins that necessary. Well. I 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.920 talked about this a lot before, just the idea that 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.400 we have to get used to watching things that are 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:05.320 built for universal watching as opposed to single issue watching, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.960 and then no one annoys them, definitely cinephiles who are like, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.960 this is not a self contained film, and like, right, 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.120 it's part of a universe, like what makes the Marvel 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:19.000 films great rewatches, Like I recently rewatched the first Avenger 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:23.480 Captain America movie and then the first Avengers movie, uh 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.320 with Hector Navarro and like just all the little easter 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.360 eggy things like if you rewatch Captain America, the First Avenger, 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:32.960 there's so much Viking stuff. Then it's like get ready 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.440 for Thor, here's Thor drops. Here's what it was so 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.719 cool to watching it. You felt you were being tied 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.560 into another universe and it has good rewatchability and the 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.720 idea of like, well we're just gonna skip the cream, like, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.400 but that's kind of what ties us into the rest 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.640 of what's happening. Otherwise you're just like, who is this 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.760 fighter pilot? And why do I really care? When once 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.960 you get to the test react later, you know, you 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.120 could say that brings it in. But I like the 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.280 whole setup, and if we didn't have that set up, 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.159 you wouldn't have any gema chan and really, what would 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.680 be the point for me? I In the first twenty minutes, 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.400 the big thing was like as soon as they showed Halla, 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.200 I was like, oh cool, alright, so this feels like 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.799 a distinct planet. It's got its own culture, its own design, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.120 and I'm on board with this. The only thing was 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:13.960 like fifteen minutes and I was like, actually, I don't 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.600 know what anybody's name is, Like I know because with 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.000 other shows I do. I know that her name is. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.440 I called it something, I called it verbs, it's bears 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:24.880 or whatever they were saying, and I didn't I knew 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.800 what Jude Law's name was, but I didn't hear anybody 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.520 say it or anyone like talk to each other with 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:34.240 like first names, and so I was like, I don't care, 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:35.839 but I'm like, that must be kind of tough. And 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:37.560 I had to talk to other people I'm like, did 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.279 I miss something that? Did they say it really fast 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.400 or like name cards came up and I blinked I 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.760 missed it, like and so that part was a little 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:46.080 tough for me because I thought it was kind of 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:47.800 fun that they start with like a flashback. You're like, 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.720 you get the idea of like this is Carol. I'm 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.359 gonna call her Carol's easier that way her mindset, like 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.160 this is how she sees the scrolls, this is how 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.120 she sees herself as a soldier when they're showing like 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.960 the scroll attacking her and the net net Benning's character, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.320 whoever that was in that point, Um, I thought that 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.840 was really interesting. I just had some trouble, like I 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.000 didn't have enough time to connect with anybody because I 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.200 was still just trying to figure out who was who 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.640 and what that meant to everybody. I didn't really connect 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.320 with the movie until, like i'd say, like once we 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.640 got to her being taken by the scrolls. So when 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.400 it comes to like the first twenty minutes being unnecessary, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.400 I don't think so. I just wish something was a 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.920 little bit clear, like, um, if we're gonna just compare 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.240 to other like space faring movies like you mentioned Guardians 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.400 the Galaxy. The first thing we saw in that movie 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.480 was Peter getting abducted, and I'm like, oh, this is 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.120 so cool. So as soon as it starts out like 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.520 him on his Indiana Jones like adventure on this planet, 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.040 I was like, Okay, I don't actually don't need to 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:40.400 know anything else because I didn't just know he started 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.120 here and now he's this He chose as a scared 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:45.520 kid to become like this adventure they looked up to. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.760 I just it took me a while connect to Carol 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.240 in the first twenty minutes because I didn't know what 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.000 was happening to two points. So do you think it 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.120 would have been a better film if they had taken 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:58.040 the Carol Marvel crash scene and just moved it to 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.800 the front, not given us any context, just that conversation 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.160 they have in the plane of like we're going to 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.000 go down and like find the coordinates, and then like 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.120 just seeing the crash, and then we had popped up 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.160 in the next world. Because I see what you're saying 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.280 about having a reason to invest in the character, because 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.840 at first she's just a chick. You can't go to sleep, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.000 you're like okay, cool. Um, so really like the d 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:21.360 M and the other point being the idea of us 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.040 not getting into groups. That's kind of continuously a Marvel 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.840 problem of like we'd really like to give fan service 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.720 to our fans, but also we have to keep this 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.200 show movie. They did the same thing with Thora's Companions 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.000 forget what like yeah, the Warriors three, so like they 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.440 their introduction is sort of vague, and you're like, okay, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.600 the people fight us and they're death kind of vague. Uh, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.480 that's a good point, Like if there was if they 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.959 kind of extended that scene showing the crash and then 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:49.200 like as soon as you get to scroll, comes and 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.080 shoots and it cuts to like the Marvel logo, maybe 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.920 that would have helped. Also, I'll just put out there 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.800 I didn't enjoy this movie. I actually had a good time. 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.320 At just the beginning of the movie. I was like, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.320 I actually have no idea. I know there's a war, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.560 but I all, I'm not connecting with any part of 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:03.680 it right now. And and that's and that's the thing 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:06.600 why I'm on the other side of kind of understanding 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.439 like if it started at boom blockbuster, blockbuster boom boom, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.880 just quick cuts of what we eventually saw in those 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.880 twenty because that's when the movie did kind of ramp 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.880 up for me especially. I mean, but if we're talking 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.040 about under underutilized man Colston, I was like, why are 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.280 you even here? I loved seeing him. I I know 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.880 why we see him because it's for the fans. But 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.160 you know, I I now I want this spinoff movie 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.000 of like Urie and Buddy Cops, you know, getting to 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.400 know each other, but they like, I don't know there 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:41.400 there's that level of like does every because me coming 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.920 from like you know, a big Kaiju fan, where like 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.160 you don't get much explained in those movies. It's like 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.960 it came from somewhere and it's attacking. Uh, you know, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:54.120 it's attacking Japan. You gotta get out of here. I 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.400 don't need to know everything and I don't need everyone 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.839 Colston just being there like he yeah, he was this moving. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.040 We know who he is, and the only reason he 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.439 matters is because we know who he is. But if 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.040 he was just the rookie and he was introduced in 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.680 that movie, I don't think we'd have as much of 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.839 a problem. And I think that's a good problem to have, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.480 of wanting to see more of a character just because 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.160 we like. I think I like the risk because they 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.240 said before we even went into the film, we knew 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:22.120 that it wasn't necessary that she was going to start 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.040 with her powers. We did know that because they said 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.760 that upfront, that she was already going to start with 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.640 her powers. So I like that they did that different 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.319 risk and different take. I want to see more superhero 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.000 films doing that because like everyone is always just like 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.080 an origin story, you know, and it kind of was, 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.440 but they did it in a smart, in my opinion, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.120 way where it kind of kept you guessing, so it 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.000 wasn't like he you know, from start to finish there 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.400 was and it also kind of reiterated what her mind 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.480 is like, so I think by jumbling it up, it 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.760 was almost like that is actually how her mind is, 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.320 though she can't really you know, she keeps having flashbacks, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.520 she doesn't know where she is. It is confusing. So 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.559 for us that did kind of that choice worked for me, 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.400 them doing that as opposed to a straight like here's 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.400 how she got her powers, then here's you know, the 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.120 middle of her story. Like that, I like that they 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.800 kind of jumbled it up. Yeah, No, I think that's great. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.800 I mean I've said as much, uh you know on 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.360 movie talk shows. I think I said it on s JU, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.480 where like we're done with origin stories at this point. 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.280 And also this, I think they pulled off a pretty 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:28.479 hefty task, this deep into the Marvel Cinematic universe, introducing 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.760 a character and then putting her over. To use wrestling terms, 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.560 which if you're unaware of what putting someone over means, 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.480 it means to basically, uh, make everyone a fan of 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.680 them and to make them seem like they can compete 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.160 with everyone at the top of the roster. I mean 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:47.520 that ending scene of them just being like boom, like 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:51.520 she yeah, she's strong, she's she can kick everyone's ass. Uh. 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.560 You know that that was great because that immediately was like, 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:58.560 oh she it it. I think what it was trying 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.520 to do and accomplished was like, yeah, when she shows up, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.760 it's gonna it's the things are gonna change in the 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.400 Infinity War. And it was real fun and it's felt earned. 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.440 It made so much sense, I mean to you know, 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.440 and now you have to consider that she had since 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.240 the nineties to hone that power, so to show her 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.680 so powerful upstart, up front, and then know that there 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:24.360 is going to be this time for her to hone 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.920 and get better. It was. It was pretty great. I 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.040 liked it a lot. Um. I guess a lot of 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.320 people have brought up then why if he could have 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.520 called her the whole time? Can do you want to 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.360 tackle some of that? Like I said, I think I've 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.320 seen articles that people have tried to tackle that. If, like, 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.120 and I'm talking about Nick Ferry, if he could have 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.240 called her that whole time, why did he wait? You know, 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.720 all of these other films that he didn't call her 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.880 interesting well with me. My take for it was like 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.360 and and this is my personal thing is seeing how 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.160 powerful she was by the end of that movie. It's like, 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.520 oh no, this is the new Like you don't call 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.560 in the nuke, you know, with these guys the and 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.480 also I felt like it's so interesting for people to 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:07.240 be like, when why didn't you call it? Like you 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.240 had a bazooka, why don't you use it? It's like 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.320 then that would then why why even make the Avengers initiative? 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.640 If he's just gonna call Nova all the time like 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.520 that was he his The reason he never called it 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.400 was because he'd built the Avengers to use in those situations, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.400 and they have yet to fail in those situations. They 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.720 they've had hard times, but the Avengers have yet to 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.280 fail until Infinity War. This is their first fail. So 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.800 it does make sense that now that he would call her. Well, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:40.000 So she made it pretty clear like emergencies only like emergencies, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.680 and if you think about it, like Avengers one, you 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.640 don't get too far into the emergency, Like a hole 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.559 opens up in the sky, the Aliens come. Luckily there's 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.360 a team already on the ground to face them, and 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.280 then it's it's over. Avengers to Ultron ramps up so fast, 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.520 and it's kind of Tony Stark's problem, and so Tony 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.559 Startin used to clean up his own mess and the 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.040 Avenger series where they failed, and so they have to 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.360 call Captain Marvel. Now it's just I would I can't 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:02.959 think of a reason why I would have called her 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.040 any sooner than this right here, like people are disappearing 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.000 a helicopters, cashing to this guy like we need help. Well, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.719 I don't know if you guys saw Kevin fig I 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.160 mean a million press people like grabbed him and tried 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.280 to like pin him down to answer. And I found 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.000 one article where he actually did and basically if he 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.320 kind of came down to like he wanted his team 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.520 and it's like it is the new option. But he 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.400 also threw out like one little like one little gimme 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.320 to the fans where it's like this is a non answer, 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.240 but I like it. He was like, well, maybe he did, 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.520 and we just never saw him click that button, like 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:37.520 it because it's like also comparatively like three spaceship showed 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.480 up like the Cree ships at the end of this movie, 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.760 and like Carol kind takes care of him in about 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.800 let's call it twenty minutes, like it's not that big 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.080 of a deal and comparatively like a big hole in 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.800 like reality opened up. I'm sure he maybe he did 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:51.400 click it, like or maybe he just left it in 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:52.880 his office and he didn't know where to go get it. 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.800 Like I kind of like them playing with that idea 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.040 as well, like maybe he clicked it, and um, if 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.600 you guys, like in the post credit scene they show 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.200 that like it kind of takes her look at little 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:02.800 bit to come all the way back to Earth wherever 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.240 she is at. And I do have questions about like 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.760 the tech that like they were talking about, like like 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.200 the mcguffin of this movie. We get to that a 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.160 little bit because I just I don't dislike it. I 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.880 was just like the mcguffin to me was earned, and 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.600 I was in, maybe this is my centiphonal brain. But 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.400 from the moment she hacked a Pacific bell phone to 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.040 call back to her command, I was like, Oh, that 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.120 she's gonna hack the beeper. Like I knew from the moment, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.000 I was like, she she has the tech know how 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.320 to hack a pay phone to return people. Then I 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:36.480 guess we've already laid the magic mcguffin, like like it 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.320 was established early enough to be like, Okay, this is 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:45.200 how y'all did take a space battery. It was for 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.520 x mods Rest in Peace. X mods, you were the 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.040 best thing Radio Shack had. I don't know why that used. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.640 It was part of No, it wasn't It couldn't have 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.000 been xnly thought. I really thought when they put when 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.640 he pointed over, I thought he was going to point 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.920 at Circuit City, and I was like, that would have 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:05.040 the old school nineties. I know. There were some things 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.280 me being an l a head where I was like, okay, uh. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.520 The train chase scene ends in the seventh Metro station 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.120 and then they exit at the Graham station. I was 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.520 like that that ain't that station. But it's for one 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.200 of the things that like, of course not I know, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.440 movie matter, but it was cool to be on the 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.440 other side of that because you know, a lot of 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.680 movies take place in New York and not not really 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.440 l A l A to where I've been likeing, I 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.680 know exactly, Yeah, the Douglas State. That's what you take 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.360 to go to the l A X. Like I I 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.360 was totally in my l A head and I was 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.440 really excited about it. But yeah, sorry, I was going 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.680 to ask you guys a question. Did you see the 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.440 reason this needed to be sit in the nineties? Oh 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.640 that's a good that's a really, really, really good question. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.960 And the reason I say that's a really good question 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.960 is because that was kind of uh I did movie 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.440 fights and it was talking about like nineties, and they 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.920 were talking about like, you know, basically pitching another movie 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.640 to be set in the nineties, and does a movie 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.600 He like, what's the reason? And that's kind of what 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.480 I thought for this one, that I had that in 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.760 back of my head and I thought, I was like, yeah, 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.280 it doesn't necessarily need to be set in the nineties. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.840 The only reason it would need to be set in 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:17.160 the nineties is to explain why she's been gone, because 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.320 because if this happened when he was setting up the 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.720 Avengers and she just pieced out, like, it'd be like, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.280 all right, uh, now come back, Like why wouldn't he 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.160 just ask her to be in the Avengers? So you know, 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.080 but that's such a good question because it almost doesn't. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.400 The only thing that it kind of justifies to me 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:40.760 is just why where she's been Yeah, I kind of 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.720 did wish that she was older when she came back 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:45.920 like that post credit scene and everyone was like, no, 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.200 it's because in space, you know. I was like no, 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.040 But I really wanted her to have like like white 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.680 hair or like, you know, several strands of white hair 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.440 and be like older. I just thought it would have 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.719 been been cool. But who knows, maybe we'll get an 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:03.000 older Carol eventually. Now that we're in the looks zone, 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.320 let's let's talk about another take that people have, you know, 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:10.240 where they say, you know, Bree Larson, you know, it 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.200 doesn't sell it for them, like as as Captain Marvel 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.760 and what what's everyone's thought on this. I find this 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.760 to be one of those I like how I opened 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:25.760 the floor and then immediately about it. I find this 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.119 to be one of those nitpicky nerd things because I 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:29.960 went through and I was because when I heard this, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.439 like it didn't necessarily jump out to me. I was like, 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.359 I guess I can kind of see it, but I 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.480 was like, let me look at the comic version and 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.960 see why. And the and the reason I think people 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.240 are acting this way is because she's very angular in 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.520 the the if I can just be completely frank, she 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:52.399 has that strong lesbian energy the short do just strong face, 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.800 almost like if Jane Lynch was younger, this would be hers. 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.400 And that point, I get it. But also there were 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.600 tons of people in the m c U who at 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:11.040 first I was like, oh no, like but he grew 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.520 on me, and I'm willing to let that happen for 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.960 Brie Larson because I was on freaking board when she 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.960 was super powered up, flying, blowing stuff up. I didn't 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.720 feel like she was any less of a hero than 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.600