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Speaker 1: You don't listening Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

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Speaker 2: every buddy, happy happy Fox. There's no football Saturday.

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Speaker 3: You gotta wait.

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Speaker 2: I know, FITZI no football man blows.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me just tell you.

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Speaker 2: I got a team at the Super Bowl, and it

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Speaker 2: sucks that there's no game this weekend. But I don't

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Fitzie.

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Speaker 4: How we feeling out of football free Saturday? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're supposed to be jack for college basketball today. I'm

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Speaker 4: just I want to be want to be I want

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Speaker 4: to be all excited for college basketball and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: don't worry about the guys, Everything's going to be just fun. Nope,

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Speaker 4: she's not that kind of you know, it just feels different.

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Speaker 4: Even the Pro Bowl is still going to get you know,

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Speaker 4: weird numbers just because it's football.

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Speaker 2: Like where where that bastball I mean, I can't watch

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Speaker 2: flag football, Like I'm sorry, I can't do it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean I I would have. I used to watch

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Speaker 2: the I'm not gonna lie. I used to watch the

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Speaker 2: Pro Ball when it was on after the end of

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Speaker 2: the after the Super Bowl, because there was there was

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Speaker 2: no there was nothing right, So like you need the fix.

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Speaker 2: This is why I don't know. I may be in

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Speaker 2: on the what is it, the UFL.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the yes, the UFL, the former XFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I'm going to be in on

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Speaker 2: the uf I was talking to Anthony Backt, he's one

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Speaker 2: of the coaches for the battle Hawks. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I think I'm going to be in on that.

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Speaker 5: Look.

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Speaker 4: I I covered the com b of the XFL for ESPN.

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Speaker 4: I did one of the season.

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Speaker 5: Really yeah, it was. It was a blast. Like I

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Speaker 5: really enjoyed the XFL.

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Speaker 4: I think the XFL as a for example, for everyone

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Speaker 4: that's sitting here confused by the kickoff rules, if you

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Speaker 4: were watching the XFL, you weren't confused by I mean,

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Speaker 4: the XFL a little bit of a testing ground, and.

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Speaker 5: They did a great job.

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Speaker 4: I've referenced this before, but one thing that was great

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Speaker 4: is Dean Blandino was their head of reviews, and so

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Speaker 4: every game, if a play was reviewed, it went to

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Speaker 4: a room that was miked up with Blandino and all

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Speaker 4: of the TVs and you could actually hear him go

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Speaker 4: through his process of his call on the review. So

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Speaker 4: sometimes you'd be sitting there. We'd be sitting there in

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Speaker 4: you know, a war room, watching games for getting ready

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Speaker 4: for the show, and you would sit there and say, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's definitely a fumble, and then you'd hear Blandino on

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Speaker 4: the on the review say well, I see this, but

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Speaker 4: I don't see this and the rule needs this, and

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Speaker 4: you're like.

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Speaker 5: Oh, oh well cool. I don't necessarily agree with you,

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Speaker 5: but at least I know what you were looking at.

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Speaker 4: Like the XFL. Now, the UFL has done some really

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Speaker 4: nice things that the NFL and copies.

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Speaker 5: I think the XFL UFL is a is a fun product.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 5: We should just be all in on the UFL.

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Speaker 2: Let's chew with brother, let's go for America. Yeah, I listen,

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Speaker 2: it's a good Coyle's day. We'll talk about it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, North Carolina is not what North Carolina exactly.

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Speaker 2: Thank you thank you for for being blunt like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, Duke, that rivalry is the greatest.

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Speaker 2: And I love Belichick. Who's buying free pizza for the kids.

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Speaker 2: I think it's beautiful. But you know, the game is

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Speaker 2: the game. The game is not gonna be that good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's some good there's some good teams, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll get into it, but but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not football, man.

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Speaker 4: And it is interesting because the one thing with the

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl that does stand out to me. The Pro

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Speaker 4: Bowl sucks. We all know the Pro Bowl sucks. But

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Speaker 4: let's go back to where we were kids. Okay, when

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Speaker 4: we were kids, they had that quarterback skills contest that

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Speaker 4: the middle of the summer, and it had been filmed

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Speaker 4: before and it was the best. What I can't figure

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Speaker 4: I don't care if they moved the Pro Bowl to

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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't care if they did the fat guys

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Speaker 5: And just to like these random fun you just turn

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Speaker 4: You're like oh, like it was sort of a wide

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Speaker 4: world of sports moment and the wild world of sports

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Speaker 4: is going on here that I absolutely fell in love with. Right, So, like,

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Speaker 4: I think I wish the NFL could find it's one

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Speaker 4: of the few things that they did substantially better from

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Speaker 4: a marketing standpoint, delivery standpoint back then was they figured

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Speaker 4: out how to give us that and now you know,

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Speaker 4: the quarterback skills thing buried on a week night before

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Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl. Nobody's watching that.

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Speaker 2: Nah, nobody's watching that. Nobody's watching the Pro Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you do. You shame because the

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Speaker 2: one thing we've all learned is you can't play game

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Speaker 2: that doesn't count, like a game that doesn't matter. Nobody

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Speaker 2: is interested and interested in playing. So therefore I just

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Speaker 2: don't think you play. I think you kill it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what you do, but you have just had

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Speaker 2: go dark. I mean, it's the whole thing stupid. Nobody cares,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know. I don't know if it's you

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Speaker 2: can make money off of it, I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they generate some revenue, but I gave up on it.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know what to do. You think about Kyle.

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Speaker 2: If there's a million things, nobody's gonna play the game,

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Speaker 2: where's the chance they get hurt? Remember who was the

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Speaker 2: running back who hurt his foot? He played for the

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Speaker 2: Vikings in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying there was a Patriots running back. I've ever

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Speaker 4: heard his foot. Something was a beach beach that was

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Speaker 4: a Pro Bowl. God, but I think it was a Patriot. Uh,

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Speaker 4: let me see, I'm googling it out. Robert Edwards year

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Speaker 4: laters in his left knee the a C of the

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Speaker 4: Here's what's interesting, The numbers have declined. People still watch it.

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Speaker 4: The hard part is that, like I mean, so, a

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Speaker 4: bad Pro Bowl is going to get six million views

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Speaker 4: and a six million views.

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Speaker 5: For everything else better than NBA game like that.

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Speaker 4: That's what's crazy about it is that the struggle is real,

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Speaker 4: but it's still just because.

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Speaker 2: I can't get thrown. I mean, honestly, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, no, there's no reason to watch it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you do to fill the void

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Speaker 2: in the spring. I think you just gotta I guess

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Speaker 2: you just gotta deal with it. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: you do. Like the spring football thing, I always loved I.

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Speaker 2: I always thought they should have been all in on

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Speaker 2: the World League. No.

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Speaker 4: I used to love the World League of American Football.

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Speaker 4: Co was some respect to your voice. World League of

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Speaker 4: American Football was amazing. I don't know why I loved

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Speaker 4: it so much, but I really Wasn't it a because

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Speaker 4: it was felt like you were watching like the band

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Speaker 4: that nobody knew about yet, Like you saw players and coaches.

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Speaker 2: This is where to my my, you know, Spags coach

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Speaker 2: in Germany.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. See that's and that's where again. I think

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Speaker 4: affiliated teams too would make a huge difference. Like if

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Speaker 4: there was if there was spring football that were guys.

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Speaker 2: Competings, you know in the Rome Eagles like that. You

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Speaker 2: give me that, you know, I got made watch and

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Speaker 2: like that would be good.

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Speaker 4: Even if in the beginning of expansion you could only

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Speaker 4: have eight teams, every division could essentially have you could

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Speaker 4: then you it's your practice squad guys, and yeah, I

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Speaker 4: mean I'd be watching the hell out of it. There's

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Speaker 4: a reason why so many people enjoy minor league baseball

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Speaker 4: I want to see who's coming up in the system.

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Speaker 4: Like if I was if I had incentive in the

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Speaker 4: spring to watch the Reno Raiders, I would do that

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Speaker 4: to be really good. Obviously, you know, you only get

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Speaker 4: so many hits in your life, and I get that

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what makes you But you're right, Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: stay and you know, because now you could stay six years, right,

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Speaker 2: So there's no you don't have to go anywhere like

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Speaker 2: you could develop in college. If you're a late bloomer

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Speaker 2: and you develop a twenty three, you're good. You still

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Speaker 6: You Pete, there's just an interesting phenomenon for athletes that

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Speaker 6: living in New England right now, like New England's a

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Speaker 6: very there's a ton of adult athletic leagues of some sort.

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Speaker 4: Baseball leagues, kickball leagues, dodgeball, it doesn't matter. Like there

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Speaker 4: are competitive leagues everywhere. And one thing that I think

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Speaker 4: how many athletes you know, were great for so many

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Speaker 4: don't have anywhere to get that outlet anymore. Right, if

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Speaker 4: you were a high level college athlete, you graduate from

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Speaker 4: I do to get that same competitive Like there aren't

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Speaker 4: adults you know, kickball, There aren't adult swimming leagues.

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Speaker 2: From people have about the Olympians, right well yeah, right, yeah, So.

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Speaker 4: You just wake up one day and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't get to do this anymore. Like if you're

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Speaker 4: a musician, at least you can still go to a

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Speaker 4: you really want to like most things, right, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: But like if you're an athlete, you just wake up

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Speaker 4: one day and it's gone for me. While so many

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Speaker 4: people spend time watching things like the UFL and talking

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Speaker 4: about how it's not as good as the NFL, I

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Speaker 4: look at it and say, man, most of these players

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Speaker 4: aren't going to play in the NFL, and they still

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Speaker 4: get to play football for money, Like that's that's kind

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Speaker 4: of cool. Like not a lot of money, but hey,

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Speaker 4: they get to go out there and play football that

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Speaker 4: they love in front of a crowd. Like that's that's

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Speaker 4: one of the beautiful things about it. Like I realize

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Speaker 4: Well, I agree with everything you just said, but it

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Speaker 5: They don't line up. But I also think it's fairly true.

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Speaker 4: Spend a lot of this year talking about how broken

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you how is that not every opponent's every

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Speaker 2: And I don't know that, I don't know that the

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Speaker 2: I mean I I talked to Andy and Spag I

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Speaker 3: I'm nobody's more respect for what they do than me.

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, nobody realizes how good the Eagles are.

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Speaker 2: And it has to do with their front like playing

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Speaker 2: Bree's gonna kill us. And I can go chapter and

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm fascinated, but you got to indulge me.

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Speaker 2: Brother. Uh, I know, I know you're the best, you

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Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano. So we're we're going toe

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Speaker 2: the word for it. Dominance is the word for it,

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Speaker 3: They play this so they played.

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Speaker 2: give up big plays like Fangio's ben but don't break thing.

435
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: It fits It fits Barkley in their offense because they

436
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: don't they force teams to matriculate, right like Washington and

437
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: its opening drive last week took eighteen plays to get

438
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 2: a field goal. Eighteen plays like, sooner or later, you're

439
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: gonna fail on first down, you're gonna be behind the sticks,

440
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna commit a penalty, or in Washington's case, you're

441
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna turn the ball over.

442
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: Right, So and.

443
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: Their opening drive they did exactly what they needed to

444
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: do was go eighteen plays, but they only got three

445
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: and then they give up a home run the Barkley

446
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: and you look up and you're you're down.

447
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: That's demoralizing.

448
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And that's you know,

449
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 4: I think one of the things in this this game.

450
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: That's that's interesting is Mahomes is going to have to

451
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 4: get rid of the ball quick, which means to me

452
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 4: they're going to try and sort of replicate long drives.

453
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 5: And if we just look at the.

454
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: AFC Championship game, look at what worked and what didn't

455
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 4: work for Kansas City. For Kansas City, particularly again, Mahomes

456
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: getting rid of the ball quick is a big part

457
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 4: of what happens there to try and avoid the fact

458
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 4: that their offensive line may or may not like. This

459
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 4: combination is working better, but it's not a strength compared

460
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 4: to like the Eagles, for example, And then defensively, Buffalo

461
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 4: ran the ball on them, but they stopped running with

462
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 4: James Cook. I don't know why Buffalo didn't give James

463
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: Cook the ball twenty five times instead of thirteen. I'm

464
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: not smart enough to figure that out, apparently. But the Eagles,

465
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll make that same mistake, right, So yeah,

466
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean you're a thousand percent right.

467
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 5: The hard part on this is that if you're Philadelphia.

468
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 5: The hard part for Kansas City is that stopping Saquon.

469
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: I think is impossible. Like, let me be clear, I

470
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 4: think winner lose Saquon is going to have one hundred

471
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 4: and forty hundred and fifty yards in this game, like

472
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 4: even that's past.

473
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, yeah, right.

474
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 4: So Kansas City holding Saquon in check, Like if you're

475
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: the Chiefs, you just kind of go into this game

476
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: in my mind expecting, yeah, he's going.

477
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 5: To break a couple of long ones for touchdowns. They're

478
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 5: gonna be like bombs.

479
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 4: And I loved your point earlier, and it's an important

480
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 4: one that you know, because of the way that offensive

481
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: line is built, because of the Saquan's ability. If you

482
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: send the farm to try and stop the run, which

483
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 4: the Eagles did the last time these two teams played

484
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, same thing. Everybody thought the Eagles

485
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 4: are run on them. They stuffed the run. There's no

486
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 4: Saquon like, so I just don't care about that outcome compared,

487
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like Saquon is gonna eat,

488
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. So the question is if

489
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: you were Kansas City, can you make the most out

490
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 4: of every drive and can you avoid mistakes? You know,

491
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 4: when you're getting rid of you're gonna have to get

492
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: rid of the ball so quickly. Like Jalen Carter is

493
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: just gonna be a disruptor, right, so you know, there's

494
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 4: there's no doubt about it. Like again, if I was

495
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 4: playing this game I Madden. If I was just picking

496
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 4: this game, if they didn't wear the jerseys they wore,

497
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: I think the Eagles win comfortably. I think that's that's

498
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 4: probably pretty fair. But my god, the number of times

499
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: I've said that about the Chiefs have been so wrong

500
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 4: because they're the Chiefs. That's the part. Like, I know

501
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: that's not a great answer here, but like that is

502
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 4: the answer. Like you're I'll go back to giving Andy

503
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 4: and Spags the bye week to get ready for this thing,

504
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: like they're gonna have things cooked up. Like they just

505
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: don't lose after bye week. So all of that, they

506
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 4: just don't lose these things.

507
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: You know, Sometimes you're just not as good as your opponent, right,

508
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you can't scheme your way, you know, out

509
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: of trouble. I mean, sometimes you can't scheme your way

510
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: past an offensive line that is so dominant and on

511
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 2: and on defense, like the fronts, like all the tricks

512
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: in the bag sometimes don't work.

513
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 4: I guess I just for me, I felt like Buffalo

514
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 4: was a better team and maybe not as much better

515
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 4: as the Eagles, but last year going into the Super Bowl,

516
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 4: I felt like San Francisco was a better team. And

517
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: maybe not as maybe the gap isn't as big, but

518
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: the last year going into the Super Bowl certainly felt

519
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: like the way that the forty nine Ers offense was

520
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: humming and as talented as they were and is broken

521
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: as the Chiefs offense looked at times coming into that

522
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, it just, man, it felt like San Francisco was.

523
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 5: A better team. So like that that's why I hear you.

524
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 4: But also that's happened so many times, like the number

525
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 4: of times they're like, wow, it's just they're they're not

526
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: as good and and that's why I heard somebody the

527
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 4: other day on one of the sports sock showers I

528
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 4: was listening to talking about the fact that, well, this

529
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: is gonna end eventually for the Chiefs because they're not

530
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: gonna be able to keep a ton.

531
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 5: Of talent around my homes as he makes more more money.

532
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 5: And I'm like, really, because.

533
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 4: Certainly feels like the Chiefs have figured out, no matter

534
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: who's around him, like this is what they do.

535
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's stupid. Second of all, he's gonna be

536
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: like Brady, and it's gonna become a point where he's

537
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, he's not gonna he'll He'll do whatever he

538
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: needs to do to make sure they feel the team.

539
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: Otherwise he's not gonna, you know, he's he wants to win.

540
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: He's the most marketable guy in the league right now.

541
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: So you know, State Farm.

542
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Is the nil subsidies, gonna whatever cap lubber you put.

543
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 4: The next one said, that's well said. You know, I

544
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: think in reality, I like the corners of the Eagles

545
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 4: better than the receivers of the Chiefs. Obviously, I don't

546
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 4: think that's a hot take. I think that the Eagles

547
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 4: are well positioned to be able to slow down Kelsey,

548
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: which again I don't think is a hot take. I

549
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: don't think the offensive line for the Eagles can hold

550
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: up against the defensive line, or some of the offensive

551
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: line of the Chiefs can hold up against the defensive

552
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 4: line of the Eagles. Like all of these things should

553
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: make points at a premium, but it's there's always some

554
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: random you know, Just when we thought Kelsey was washed,

555
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 4: he wasn't. Just when we thought Xavier Worthy wasn't gonna

556
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: be a big part of something, he was like it's

557
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 4: just there's always somebody that steps up and steps in.

558
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 4: So that's all part of it.

559
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: Because like the math, like you go to the math,

560
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: I go to the matchups, right, I go to the

561
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: X and O and sometimes the X and Oh most

562
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 2: of the time the X and O prevails, right, like

563
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: most of the time if you're executing the way you

564
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: should execute.

565
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: And it's just man the man.

566
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: Like like you brought up the Eagles defensive front against

567
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: the Chiefs old line. They fixed their problems for the

568
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: most part by kicking Joe Tuney out right like to tackle.

569
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: But calli endo left guard is a problem.

570
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if I'm the Eagles and Vic Fangeer is

571
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: not stupid, I'm just gonna move Carter down instead of

572
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: putting them over right guard, I'm gonna put him over

573
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: left guard and go and go good luck because now

574
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: you have to it's an automatic double. And by the way,

575
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: Carter might be might be able to even beat the double.

576
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: So now I got numbers on you. And and it's

577
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: not like you could chip A got pressure, B got pressure.

578
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: You're right about that, Like there isn't a The chip

579
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 4: point is an important one, you know for everybody like.

580
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 5: If if you're not.

581
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 4: If that doesn't make sense, just think about the fact

582
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 4: that so often you can leave somebody into help. It's

583
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: tougher to help for interior.

584
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Like x O line, you're taught to pass to the

585
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: outside like everybody passes to the outside. So in other words,

586
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: you pass your man, you fortify the middle, and you

587
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: keep passing the man down the line to the edge.

588
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: That's so you can you can actually help out. So

589
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: everybody's supposed to eat when you blitz, and all you're

590
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be. It's go back to to collectiator maximists,

591
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: hold your live right right, be as be as one.

592
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: It's to say, basic philosophy of oh live play.

593
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is just a man that's a nightmare

594
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: to do. That's why. And I might've been pro football focused.

595
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: One of them had the numbers on Mahomes getting rid

596
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: of the ball early. That's just become an important part

597
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 4: of this offense when he's throwing it, and he's gonna

598
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: have to be he's gonna have to.

599
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: Be so decisive.

600
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: So quickly we talk about the first fifteen plays being scripted,

601
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see what the approach is gonna

602
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: be forgetting the ball out of mahomes hands as quickly

603
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: as possible, or getting that pocket moving. They're gonna have

604
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: to move things around. They're gonna have to run away

605
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: from Jalen Carter for a lot of this game. And

606
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: I don't mean run the ball away from him. I

607
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: mean they're gonna have to move the pocket to try

608
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: and keep Mahomes away from him as best they can,

609
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: you know.

610
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: And that's and that bet.

611
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 4: As best they can is not accidentally said by me,

612
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: because I don't think you can. There's certain guys like

613
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett is no matter what your game plan is,

614
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: he's gonna wreck it, right like Max Crossby, no matter

615
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: how many people you put on him, he's gonna he's

616
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: gonna wreck it. Jalen Carter is a reminder of how

617
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: impactful they can be when you get that guy that

618
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: can be that dynamic and the inside the interior of

619
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 4: a defensive line, because.

620
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 5: God, it's just it's so hard to figure out what

621
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: to do, you know. And so now you've also again

622
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 5: with these with.

623
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: These young this young secondary and that's where Howie Roseman

624
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 4: I think deserves an award of you know, I mean

625
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 4: GM of the Year sure, but like he deserves something

626
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 4: named after him for the way this offseason went. My god,

627
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: I mean addressing the the secondary, the way that he

628
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: addressed the secondary with the Eagles while also getting.

629
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: The values that he got in free agency.

630
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: Is just that's a that's a Hall of Fame offseason,

631
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 4: a hall of to get that many impactful guys, to

632
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: get four or five guys out of one off season

633
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: that have become that impactful as Hall of Fame level. So,

634
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: you know, I think they're well positioned again, every every

635
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: step of their defense, every level of their defense can

636
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 4: handle Kansas City.

637
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 5: You know. It's just questions, how do you hand them

638
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 5: a homes?

639
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: You know, And that's that's something that maybe maybe they

640
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 4: have the game plan for. But god, you gotta think

641
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: Andy's gonna.

642
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: Have some dialed up Well, yeah, here's the Yeah, definitely

643
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: it's Andy. Right. Here's one thing that is a problem

644
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: for Andy when he goes to the lab and is

645
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: looking at this stuff.

646
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: The Eagles are so good on the perimeter.

647
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: See, they're light years better than they were in twenty

648
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: twenty two, light years better on defense. On defense, people

649
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: made a big deal about their defense, and oh, my god,

650
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: have a lot of sacks and all the sacks came

651
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: from the edge, and they did, but they also feasted

652
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Speaker 2: on a lot of bad quarterback play. If you go

653
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Speaker 2: back to that schedule that they played and who they played,

654
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: they feasted on bad quarterback play.

655
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Speaker 3: This defense is legitimate.

656
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: So not only do they have a great secondary with

657
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Speaker 2: Sleigh and quinnyon Mitchell, but Cooper Degene is a wild

658
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Speaker 2: card because he's such a great athlete. He's such a

659
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Speaker 2: great tackler that he could play on the outside as

660
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Speaker 2: a corner, but he's better, more effective as a nickel

661
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: corner in the middle of the field, and he takes

662
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: away that edge when they go at fast, quick flash play,

663
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Speaker 2: he takes them away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which is one of the curious things to me.

665
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Speaker 4: I still go back to the draft process and I

666
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Speaker 4: think everybody they're scouting him. I don't know why Cooper

667
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Speaker 4: was still sitting there for the Eagles. Eagles just the

668
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Speaker 4: number of times they do the right thing, which is like,

669
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Speaker 4: hey this guy, great football player, we're taking him in

670
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Speaker 4: the draft. It's maddening to see these things like Cooper

671
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Speaker 4: de Gene's success I think was to me, it's pretty

672
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Speaker 4: stunning that he lasted as long as he did in

673
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Speaker 4: the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can't believe they. I mean, one

675
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: fell swoop you create your secondary for ten years. It's

676
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: unbelievable with how we did with that. But you get

677
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Speaker 2: my point right, like the ambulas to go quick to worthy.

678
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: So if you if you those you know those stalk blocks,

679
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: so you know you can't engage until the receiver has

680
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: the ball right. So when you get the ball out

681
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: that quick on the edge, you got a stalk right.

682
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: So that means you can't engauge the defender is so

683
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: you surround them so the defender has a way to

684
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Speaker 2: break through that.

685
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: The only way is to blow it up. And that's

686
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Speaker 3: what Cooper does.

687
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 2: Cooper's so great at at fight through those stalk blocks

688
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: and getting in to blow up that play. And that's

689
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: a big play in kans City's arsenal to Worthy and

690
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: it's a big play used to get to them. Do

691
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: you remember last week when Washington tried to do that

692
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: a couple of times and Eagles blew it up?

693
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Speaker 5: Oh y.

694
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: Did the Dan Army Brown?

695
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: They tried. They tried twice and and that's a that's

696
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: a key play. Anyway, Uh, we'll continue I love this stuff.

697
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Speaker 2: By the way, FITZI like, this is what I mean, Like,

698
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch the chess match because you're right,

699
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: all this stuff that we're talking about is and he's

700
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Speaker 2: up against spags up against But they ain't going out

701
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Speaker 2: not trying.

702
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. To use the double negative.

703
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: They're they're they're gonna come up, They're gonna cook up

704
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Speaker 2: something where the Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargano hang it

705
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano. By the way,

706
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Speaker 2: I did uh the Gullics the other day, and of

707
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Speaker 2: course Junior says hello and uh, we were talking about

708
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Speaker 2: you at length during their show. It was a lot

709
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Speaker 2: of fun.

710
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Speaker 5: Well, you know, for what it's worth.

711
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're good people obviously, but yeah, they

712
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Speaker 4: checked him first to get the seal of approval.

713
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Speaker 5: They were like, hey, Gargano, good guy.

714
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Speaker 4: And I said, the best, you know, the best. I said,

715
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Speaker 4: if you want somebody that can break down film and

716
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Speaker 4: give you all the x's and o and also do

717
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Speaker 4: it with just a little bit of sass that makes

718
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Speaker 4: you feel like you're listening to the sopranos, Yeah, I.

719
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Speaker 5: Got your guy. Look, I can't wait to see.

720
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Speaker 4: We're gonna both be in New Orleans next week, so

721
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Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be. There's gonna be bear hugs

722
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Speaker 4: on radio row. Let's go like it's gonna be. It's

723
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Speaker 4: gonna be a wild week and a good week.

724
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Speaker 2: Sazaax, sazaax, you and me, sasaax?

725
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Speaker 4: What is what is sazaax?

726
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Oh, it's it's a New Orleans. It's a drink.

727
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Speaker 4: Oh well, I mean, I mean I'm still a beacon

728
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Speaker 4: of health. But you know we'll maybe have a opposite.

729
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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you what's your plan? It's New Orleans, right, yeah, yeah,

730
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Speaker 2: I packed.

731
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Speaker 4: I started to pack yesterday just because I got a

732
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Speaker 4: busy day today and fly them all. So started packing

733
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Speaker 4: yesterday and grabbed the protein bars and the protein shakes

734
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Speaker 4: and you know the things to make sure to state like, look, man,

735
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 4: like I've been eating so clean for so long. At

736
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Speaker 4: this point, if I go in there and just suddenly

737
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Speaker 4: bust out pignes and at tufe, I'm gonna like, like

738
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Speaker 4: the just the my entire body is just gonna turn

739
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: into one big balloon, a bloat just walking around like

740
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Speaker 4: I'll be floating my way through Radio row.

741
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Speaker 3: Noah, I'm talking less food.

742
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Speaker 2: Although I mean, you know, if the restaurants forget the bagnets,

743
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: like you know, you could you know, yes, yeah, I

744
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: mean there's other ways to get your indulge on drinking,

745
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: Like what's your what?

746
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Speaker 5: Like?

747
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Speaker 2: I went right to it, man, because listen, I love

748
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: New Orleans. The orlds is great city. The food is

749
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: sick right, it's it's the restaurants scene is unbelievable. I

750
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: love I love that food. I love their I love

751
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: their cuisine. But you know, it's just such a great

752
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: and not just Bourbon Street, Frenchman Street, like the every

753
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: the whole city has got a happy vibe to it.

754
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: And you know you get there and there's gonna be

755
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: so much you know, let's face parties and it's a

756
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Speaker 2: great walking city.

757
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: So you know you're gonna go out. You want to

758
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Speaker 3: enjoy it.

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00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: It's the perfect place to go, have a couple of

760
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Speaker 2: cocktails and enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 4: You mean, you don't you think they won't look at

762
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Speaker 4: me funny when I walk into Bourbon.

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Speaker 5: Street and be like, do you have anything mocktails on

764
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Speaker 5: the menu? Any mocktails on the menu?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

766
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Speaker 4: You know, I might break down and have one. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's a for for you. Brother, I break dout.

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Speaker 5: It happened.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Brother.

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Speaker 3: You like the bourbon? Do you like the taste?

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Speaker 2: You like bourbon?

773
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Speaker 5: I mean it's been almost a year at this point. Yes,

774
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Speaker 5: I used to.

775
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Speaker 4: I used to. I used to like bourbon a lot.

776
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't know now, like my taste

777
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Speaker 4: punds might have changed.

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Speaker 5: Man exploration. I mean, let's just see where it goes.

779
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I like it.

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00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. What a great city. I mean, my god,

782
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Speaker 2: super Bowl in New Orleans. It's uh, it's it's pretty awesome.

783
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Speaker 5: Weather's gonna be perfect too. Let's go.

784
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Speaker 2: Oh dude, you got me popped up? Where the fellas

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

786
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

787
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Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

788
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Speaker 2: happy happy Fox Sports Saturday Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano,

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Speaker 2: the Colm before New Orleans. That's what's happening as we

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Speaker 2: always the week where it's like a little you know,

799
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Speaker 2: you get melancholy because there is no football. You gore, right, well,

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Speaker 2: what's next? I need to kind of turn the page

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Speaker 2: and is it? Is it college basketball for us? I

802
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Speaker 2: guess that's what it's.

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Speaker 5: Going to be. Yeah, I mean to me when we

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Speaker 5: get to this spot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you love the NBA obviously being in a

806
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Speaker 4: great NBA market, and I watched the job. Well that's yeah,

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00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: that's another conversation. But you know, I think that there's

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Speaker 4: a magic to college basketball that is a beautiful thing,

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Speaker 4: like the crowds. Like last night, I found myself sucked

810
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Speaker 4: into Indiana Purdue. Is it because Indiana Purdue really matters? No,

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Speaker 4: it's just because there's something about you know, fourteen thousand

812
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Speaker 4: college kids just yelling, screaming at it that has a

813
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Speaker 4: great energy. So yeah, I'm I'm on it on on,

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Speaker 4: you know, becoming the hub of all college basketball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how about the game at Nude today Florida

816
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Speaker 2: and Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a real good today.

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Speaker 2: You know. The good thing is and I think the

819
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: schedule lines up perfectly, like because you got to be

820
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Speaker 2: able to capture people today, Telly's a big day because

821
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Speaker 2: the first day without football, right first weekend, and you know,

822
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Speaker 2: this is where you got to capitalize. That's why these

823
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: other leagues you gotta be smart, like you gotta look

824
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Speaker 2: at the football calendar and go.

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Speaker 3: You know, people are used to watching games. It's wintertime.

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Speaker 2: People aren't going outside yet I can capture them with

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Speaker 2: a real good products. And so why don't I put

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Speaker 2: my best foot forward and give you, like some of

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Speaker 2: the great matchups, some interesting matchups so today.

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Speaker 4: Well, which by the way, is why if I was

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Speaker 4: the programming god, I would have put, you know, to

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Speaker 4: your point, Duke North Carolina, I have put like Sunday

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Speaker 4: afternoon at one o'clock, like just because Eastern the world

834
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Speaker 4: is used to watching you know, CBS, Fox, things like

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Speaker 4: that at one and four pm on Sunday, So like

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Speaker 4: I would have stacked the usual football audience and been like, hey,

837
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Speaker 4: here's the reminder of our big college basketball rivers. Now

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Speaker 4: Duke North Carolina and North Carolina stinks issue, let's not

839
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Speaker 4: get a twist in it. But Duke has Cooper Flag,

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Speaker 4: who has become Cooper Flag is kind of like Deon

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Speaker 4: Sanders to college football. Any you want to get people

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Speaker 4: to click on any content you make, just say the

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Speaker 4: words click Cooper Flag, like he is the incredible, incredible star.

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Speaker 5: For Duke that everybody has all eyes on.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna he's this year's Zyon, you know, the one

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Speaker 4: and done guy. So it'll be fun to watch Cooper

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Speaker 4: in that rivalry game. But North Carolina stinks. But still,

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Speaker 4: I think you're right. This is good weekend for college

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Speaker 4: basketball to showcase someone.

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Speaker 3: With This day's a great day.

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Speaker 2: I mean at noon Florida Tennessee, au Burn Old Myths

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Speaker 2: at two o'clock, which is a real good game. Alabama

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Speaker 2: George is a good game. At four o'clock, Kansas Baylor

854
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: is a good game. At four o'clock. Texas Tech at

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00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: Houston is a good game. At six o'clock. You got

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Speaker 2: Duke North Carolina at eight o'clock tonight, Yu Khon and Marquette,

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Speaker 2: which is really good basketball. And then I liked this

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Speaker 2: Kentucky team too. They got Arkansas tonight. That's a nine.

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00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: So you got a lot of ball. But to your point,

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Speaker 2: you're right on. I don't know what anybody's thinking because

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Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon is dead. I don't know why you don't

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Speaker 2: play tomorrow. Yeah, even the NBA st the NBA doesn't

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Speaker 2: have anything at the afternoon tomorrow either.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to gloss over. You mentioned that Kentucky

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Speaker 4: Alaba Arkansas game. Let's remember that's coach.

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Speaker 5: Coming back to Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's interesting some of the projections right

868
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: now for anyone that hasn't watched the second of college basketball.

869
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 5: I think Joel Lonardi's.

870
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: Last projection has thirteen of the sixteen teams in the

871
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: SEC going to the NCAA Tournament.

872
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how good the SEC is.

873
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: But one of the three teams that would not make

874
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: the tournament is coach cal in Arkansas. So like there

875
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: is a very real Arkansas is failing in the first

876
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 4: year with John Calperry is their head coach. Now you

877
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 4: can say it's year one, but I don't know that

878
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: we have the same grace and patients in college basketball.

879
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 4: Not that there's much patience anywhere, but college basketball has

880
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: become such a one and done recruit him, get him

881
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: out the style, especially for coach cal This season is

882
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: an epic fail for Arkansas, so seeing him go back

883
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: to Kentucky where he accomplished a lot. But let's not

884
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: get it twisted like they didn't always love him there.

885
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 5: Like it's gonna be interesting.

886
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: There's a lot of heat in that game, even if

887
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 4: Arkansas socks.

888
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, now, you're right, it's a great point. Now

889
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: you bring up, No, I can't. I never dive first year, right,

890
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 2: first year, you gotta you gotta give some grace.

891
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: No, I would, I would, But I don't know college

892
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: if you're Arkansas fans the way you just celebrated getting him,

893
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, I don't know how uh how

894
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: patient you're willing to be you got to be. I mean,

895
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a big choice in this, but

896
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 4: it's going to take a second to.

897
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: Move it around.

898
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: I think it just gets really hard to swallow when

899
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 4: you realize that the SEC is so stinking good right

900
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: now and you're not part of that. You know, that's

901
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 4: the when you feel like everybody else in your conference.

902
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 5: Is and you aren't. That is a that is a

903
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 5: tough pill to swallow.

904
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean not your your points, your

905
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: points right on?

906
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: Hey, real quick?

907
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: What's he talking about Adam Silver shortening the quarters?

908
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 5: I mean, do you hate it?

909
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: I freaking loath it. I think if I hate it,

910
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 3: I hate. I hate him as a commissioner.

911
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I hate I hate what he's

912
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 2: doing under him this league as as completely lost control. Yeah,

913
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: he made a lot of money for the owners. Who cares?

914
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: He killed the sport. I cannot stand at him Silver,

915
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: the job he's done. And by the way, he's a

916
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: hearty mother father, all right. I mean his first the

917
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: first words Alvias mouth every single freaking time, is to

918
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: blame that all his problems.

919
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's not the way he used to be, old.

920
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 4: Heads, which is I don't know, you just don't go

921
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: very far on that. Look at It's funny because a

922
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: few years ago people were sitting there saying that Adam

923
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 4: Silver should run the NFL like there were.

924
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: His ideas blow they always sucked. I'm sorry his ideas.

925
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: What's he done? That's good?

926
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: He killed me.

927
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: The All Star Game sucks. The playoffs suck. Other than lose,

928
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: you lose all the momentum. The league salary structure stinks,

929
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: the schedule stinks. What's he done?

930
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: I think the other part of his era has been

931
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: he's overseen the era where player empowerment, which is something

932
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 4: I generally favor, has become so overwhelming that it just

933
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 4: becomes impossible, right, Like, it's at this point players are

934
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 4: making money, Teams are making money, and that's all anyone

935
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: ever cares about.

936
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 5: But the longevity of the sport, Like, if.

937
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 4: We talk a lot, they're going to have Yes, yeah,

938
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: the NBA is gonna end up. I think like it

939
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: like Baseball in ten years, where sure they've they've got

940
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 4: their fans, but it doesn't resonate the way that it did.

941
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: It becomes sort of a niche sport for that group.

942
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: And it's just that I don't disagree with you.

943
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: The only thing I thought was nothing this big, right,

944
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but nothing this big is going to completely collapse.

945
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: You're always going to have a semblance fans. I mean,

946
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: you know it is what it is. But the days

947
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: of the Roaring twenties where you're printing money or the

948
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: Roaring nineties will call him and into the two thousands

949
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: with Lebron and Kobe's that's over. That's over, and he

950
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: landed all fall because yeah, player empowerment's good until they

951
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: run the league and can do whatever you want. And

952
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: you got Jimmy Butler acting like a freaking creep spoiled.

953
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to player anymore. I'm leaving.

954
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 2: Forget your contract, forget any kind of devotion to your team,

955
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 2: forget all that stuff. I went out and the minute

956
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: you sold out to that, you got trash as a league.

957
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 4: I mean since one of my very first radio shows

958
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: I ever did professionally, when I had gotten out of

959
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 4: the podcast world into before podcasts or what they are now,

960
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: and into radio. So this is probably twenty sixteen, twenty

961
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 4: seven there. I got destroyed at the time on radio

962
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 4: for sitting here saying one team's gonna have to stand up,

963
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: Like the player empowerment thing is great right now, but

964
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: somebody at some points gonna have to stand up and

965
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 4: say nope. Otherwise you're gonna get to a situation where

966
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 4: teams can't plan for what their futures look like. YadA, YadA, YadA.

967
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 4: I think the difference we have to understand, Like, I'm

968
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 4: a big fan of players in the NFL doing whatever

969
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: the hell they want to to get whatever the hell

970
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: they need to, because their contracts aren't fully guaranteed. So

971
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: knowing that a team can cut you and you don't

972
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 4: get that money at any time, I need players to.

973
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: I want players to go out and get theirs in

974
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: the NFL. In the NBA, those contracts are fully guaranteed.

975
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 4: So that's a much different world to me because now

976
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 4: you've got a situation where the team's gonna be whatever

977
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: team has you is committed to the financials of you,

978
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: which means that's a different level of year in and

979
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: year out, real money, not fake money, not cap money,

980
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: not any of those, Like real cash dollars have to

981
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: be paid out no matter what. Now you're talking about.

982
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: A cont tractor is truly in the NBA, far more

983
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: of a fifty to fifty partnership than anything the NFL

984
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: offers because of that guaranteed portion of it. So when

985
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: a player like Jimmy Butler just decides he doesn't want

986
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: to play there, the ramifications are so huge in the

987
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: NBA that I just I will maintain here I sit

988
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: eight years later, nine years later doing radio saying the

989
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: same thing I told you so when it first started,

990
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: Like somebody's gonna have to stand up to a player

991
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 4: and say, I don't care where you want to play,

992
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 4: You're either gonna play here or you're not gonna play

993
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 4: basketball at all. And until somebody does that, then man,

994
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 4: this is just a never ending cycle. And I understand

995
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: that it's more complicated than that for a lot of

996
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: for a lot of people, but there will have to

997
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 4: be somebody at some point that stands up and says hey,

998
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 4: Otherwise I don't know what you do as a team.

999
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how you maintain anything as an organization.

1000
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 4: I don't know how you build your roster. It's just

1001
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: it's too unsure.

1002
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I gotta tell you I feel you.

1003
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: It hurts me, like the reason why I like, I

1004
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: don't do hot takes and you know ripped, I usually

1005
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: don't never do it. I can't stand the stewardship of

1006
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: Adam Silver and hell, there is no humility you look

1007
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 2: around you not ever. Like I'm not saying you have

1008
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: to say as the leader, we have a huge problem.

1009
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: But you got to also understand and be open to

1010
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 2: doing things differently and not all right, Well, now we're

1011
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: gonna let's go and get Let's take a bad product,

1012
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: and I know how we'll do it. We'll shave off quarters,

1013
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: minutes off the quarters, We'll play ten minutes forty minute games.

1014
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, the only thing I thought with that is,

1015
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: at least he's trying to give a clever solution to

1016
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: down You're not gonna give it. They're not gonna give

1017
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: rid of games, like I genuinely believe and for everyone,

1018
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: for anyone that listens and doesn't know, Like I love hockey,

1019
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: right and so I would say the same thing to hockey,

1020
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 4: like to the NHL in general hockey, same thing saying

1021
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 4: to the NBA. I think they should cut their seasons

1022
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 4: in half. I think the NBA and the NHL should

1023
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: cut their seasons and half. I think Major League Baseball

1024
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 4: should cut their season in half.

1025
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 5: And purists will come in and say, what about the records.

1026
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 4: I don't care about the records. I just don't care

1027
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 4: for me. I care about what's gonna make that. I

1028
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 4: don't care about the the in general. I don't care

1029
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: about the history of a product. I care about the

1030
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: future of the product. So like, I sit here right

1031
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 4: now in Raiders sweats, with the Raiders hoodie and the

1032
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: Raiders helt on my desk behind me. I don't care

1033
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: about the past of the Raiders. I care about the

1034
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: future of the Raiders. I don't care about the past

1035
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 4: of the NHL. I care about the future of the NHL.

1036
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: So on and so forth. For me, I just think

1037
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 4: that knowing that what they should do, in my mind

1038
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 4: is get rid of half the games, which will get

1039
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 4: rid of load management, which will make games have more consequence.

1040
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: But they're never going to lose the money that comes

1041
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 4: from that. The TV money I gave money.

1042
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: But listen to NBC already came in and it gave

1043
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: mo all the money in the world. So I like,

1044
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: I get it, and I understand your idea that, hey,

1045
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 2: if I make it time in a quarters, I've now

1046
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: you know, I'm reducing time load management right, And like,

1047
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't even understand. I don't even understand this whole

1048
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: concept of load management. I still haven't gotten begainst the

1049
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: fact that I covered the league and saw guys play

1050
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: forty four minutes for eighty two games a year like

1051
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: the best players, and there was they played.

1052
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: I don't even understand why. That's the thing.

1053
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, this is let me be the old man

1054
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 4: on the block for a second, because this is society,

1055
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 4: like just a deep societal conversation. I have friends all

1056
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: the time to tell me, you know, how, how is

1057
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: it possible that I'm supposed to work a forty hour

1058
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 4: job and then also like Scharu, with my doctor's appointments

1059
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 4: outside of it, and then do this and this.

1060
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: By the time I feed my kids, I can't have

1061
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 5: time for anything.

1062
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: And there's this my wife and I feel that that's

1063
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 4: what everybody talks about, like you know, but I will

1064
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 4: my argument to that is for many people, not for everybody.

1065
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: This is not a general argument. For many people, I

1066
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: would say that, okay, well that's my parents managed it,

1067
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 4: So if my parents managed it, I can manage it

1068
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 4: their parents.

1069
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 5: I want, I want the world to be better.

1070
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 4: But like we're not talking about something that hasn't been

1071
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 4: dealt with for years. Like so the fact that guys

1072
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: played in the nineties, I think now you've got guys

1073
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: coming up and saying, well, I'm smarter than I want

1074
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: to work. I want to work smarter, not harder, like

1075
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's sort of a concept. You're like,

1076
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 4: I want to save my body, I want to play more,

1077
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: I have more information.

1078
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: I get all of that.

1079
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: But we live in sort of a society now where

1080
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 4: you know, everybody feels like they you know, they need

1081
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,959
Speaker 4: more rest, and everybody feels like they need I mean,

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00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 4: the whole world's pushing for a four day work week,

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 4: which sounds electric. Four day work week sounds awesome. I

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00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 4: also know if I was a company owner, I wouldn't

1085
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 4: be particularly excited about paying people a full time salary

1086
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: to get a full day's less work every week. Like

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00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: it's just where society is. Like if you know, our

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00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: grandparents worked a hell of a lot harder than we do,

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00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 4: and we're trying to figure out how to work less,

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00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: Like that's just that's where the world is. So basketball

1091
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: players are just sort of marring. I will quickly tell

1092
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: everybody that you complained about how much time you have.

1093
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 4: Look at the screen time on your phone. Just look

1094
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: at the screen time on your phone and ask you like,

1095
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 4: did you not have time to make dinner or did

1096
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 4: you spend too much time doom scrolling Instagram. I'm just saying,

1097
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 4: but that's that's for another day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, you're right, but again I don't know,

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00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: and I still view it as basketball is a gift.

1100
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, forty hour work week is not.

1101
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: Basketball is a gift to us. But like I don't know,

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00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: like I had the best job in the world, Like

1103
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 4: I had the best job in the world.

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00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: I know, everything everything becomes a job. Everything becomes a job.

1105
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: I feel yeh, I understand it, I've, but you still

1106
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: need to recognize that plan. I mean, eighty two games,

1107
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, I'm sorry, I've at some point

1108
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: you just gotta go. It's still basketball. I mean, yeah,

1109
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: everything gets old and everything gets tired. It's human nature

1110
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: and because everything becomes a job, but it's still bad basketball.

1111
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I will say that like I never

1112
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 4: missed a show. I never missed a show. There were

1113
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 4: times that I was puking on stage, and still like

1114
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: you got a responsible even though it felt like a

1115
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: job to me. When I was touring, I also looked

1116
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 4: around and thought, man, this is this is the greatest

1117
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 4: gift in the world.

1118
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 5: And I have an obligation here.

1119
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: So we don't miss shows on Saturdays, right like we

1120
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 4: we don't certainly be it'd be it'd be easy and

1121
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: nice to just be like, you know what, I'm as

1122
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 4: sleep in for some saturdays, Like we don't do that

1123
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: every Here's.

1124
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Speaker 2: The thing, though, we get to do it tellectually. You

1125
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 2: got you know what, do you got ten years of

1126
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: that to make all the money in the world. Again,

1127
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: it's and it's not apples to apples, because you know,

1128
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 2: the dude going to work in forty hour work week

1129
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 2: is making generational wealth. He came out, man like, you know,

1130
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 2: people go on, you can't take them, you can't bring

1131
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 2: up the money? Yeah you can.

1132
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: Why why not?

1133
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 3: Why is that? Why is the money not fair gain?

1134
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1135
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 4: I think that's a I'll never forget. Last year at

1136
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, I interviewed Brock Bowers for Yahoo right,

1137
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: and I talked to Brock and I asked after our interview.

1138
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 4: I was like, so you going out? What are you

1139
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: doing tonight? And he was like, nope, there's a there's

1140
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 4: a plane waiting. And as soon as I finished the interviews,

1141
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: I'm going back to work out. And I was like, man,

1142
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: you're in Vegas. You're not going to celebrate for a day,

1143
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: and you're getting ready for this draft stuff and all

1144
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 4: that and he said, Nope.

1145
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 5: The way I look at it, if I go back

1146
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 5: and I go to work.

1147
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: It will help me get drafted. And once I get drafted,

1148
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 4: I've got a time in my life to make an impact.

1149
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: And if I do all of these things right, I

1150
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 4: can come to Vegas and do it however I want

1151
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: for the rest of my life when it's done. And

1152
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: I thought, I think about that all the time, like

1153
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 4: when you think about the greed that's awes like, like

1154
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: that was a kid that hadn't even been drafted and

1155
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: then gets after to Vegas and yeah, you know, I

1156
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: just I remember talking to Max Crosby after he signed

1157
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 4: his mega deal and I said, what do you what's

1158
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 4: the first thing you did the next morning? He's like,

1159
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 4: got to got to the facility at five am, because

1160
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 4: that's what I do every day. And so I do

1161
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 4: think you're right, Like there are different people that have

1162
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: a different understanding of I have right now to make

1163
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 4: all of the money that will change generations, you know,

1164
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 4: and how you do that maintain a level head. Certainly,

1165
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: I know plenty of people in music that have and

1166
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: I know plenty of people in music that haven't.

1167
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: So you're you're right. You're you're, you're there is there

1168
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 5: is nuanced all of that.

1169
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I I and again I'm not. I

1170
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: don't want to sit here and do this whole thing,

1171
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: and you know, get off at get back to football.

1172
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: But there's a reason why football works. Like football just works,

1173
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 2: you know, just it works. I get I get frustrated, like.

1174
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 4: We gotta take a break, but well we we got

1175
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: to take a break after we take a break.

1176
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 5: Somebody on Twitter asked or made a point.

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Speaker 4: About Adam soverhar, I want to ask you a question

1178
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 4: about Adam Silver in a second.

1179
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds good. Fellas right here Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1181
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,720
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1182
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,920
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1183
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:19,720
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1184
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Fellas, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano, and our five

1185
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Speaker 2: production team Brianna Mighty Mighty Mark.

1186
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: Brianna is a big Saints fan, FITZI we're.

1187
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 5: Gonna be in the city of her team.

1188
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: Can we bring you back a Saint like that?

1189
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Speaker 3: That's a Probley give her tell him more so.

1190
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 4: That that's fair, that's fair, that's that's a heck of

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Speaker 4: a president right there.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited about that. It's a really big deal,

1194
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: and I'm kind of hoping he's going to say, like,

1195
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: you know what, you guys need to get rid of

1196
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: Derek Carr and then I'll come in like give him

1197
00:59:58,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: an ultimatum.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's going to do that. I mean,

1200
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: Derek Carr's not in your future. He knows that, so

1201
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: they'll fix that out breaking like you'll be listen, I'm not.

1202
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 3: I think he could be good. I do.

1203
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: I mean he's a bright guy. I like what he

1204
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: did with the Eagles offense. I mean it was a

1205
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: little tricky. People think, well, you got Saquon in the

1206
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: Great Old Line and A J. Brown, Devonte Smith and Jalen,

1207
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 2: but you still have to make it work, and you

1208
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: have to make it work and without you know, doing

1209
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, things affect One of our guys on exus

1210
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: said being too cute. I don't think they're going to

1211
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: be too cute, and that's kind of who they are.

1212
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: They've been since week five. It's because Kellen Moore and

1213
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: Syrianne so t Roan. I think, you know, they've been

1214
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 2: who they are, and I think Kellen Moore, is the

1215
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: director of the offense, is going to be good.

1216
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 3: And look, he was a quarterback.

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01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: He was in the room and you know he's been

1218
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback. Those guys make good coaches. So hopefully

1219
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: break he'll do well for you.

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Speaker 9: I'm really excited.

1221
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: So fingers crossed.

1222
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 4: And then the Eagles get to dip back into the

1223
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Speaker 4: coordinator pool get again.

1224
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, it's unbelievable. You know, you know,

1225
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: it's nuts. Howie Roseman has been to now three Super

1226
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: Bowls in eight years.

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Speaker 3: And you're ready.

1228
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: He's had two different head coaches, six different coordinators, three

1229
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 2: one two, three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: No, that's crazy, right, that is crazy, man.

1231
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Speaker 4: All Right, So let me ask you. Let me ask

1232
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 4: you an Adam Silver question. Okay, because Rob on Twitter

1233
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 4: said something about Adam Silver. I gotta get your thoughts

1234
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 4: on this. He said, to defend Adam Silver, it's a

1235
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 4: pretty good person in a bad situation. Players don't want

1236
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 4: to play every All Star game. They all stink in sports. Uh,

1237
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 4: he's not that bad of a commissioner. My question is,

1238
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 4: is is it possible that this entire thing is just

1239
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 4: It's look, Adam Silver is trying to manage something that

1240
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 4: just simply can't be managed.

1241
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 5: Is it possible that the.

1242
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 4: NBA was just sort of heaving its way towards this

1243
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 4: and this is the inevitability for every sport other than

1244
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 4: the NFL. So he's really mostly guilty of just, you know,

1245
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: hitching himself to a chariot that was gonna go down

1246
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: in flames anyway.

1247
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's fair. It's fair to bring that up.

1248
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 4: You know.

1249
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: Part of it is the optics, and I don't I

1250
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: don't like some of his moves, right. I think at

1251
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: some point you've got to get ahead of some of

1252
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: the issues and not double down on them, like when

1253
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: the Spurs, when the Spurs go into load management mode. Right,

1254
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: I also think they messed up now. I don't know,

1255
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: you know again, I mean it's Silver doesn't care what

1256
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: I think. But when I look at the league itself

1257
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: in the schedule, I don't know why you need to

1258
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 2: start in October, Like, I don't know why you're such

1259
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 2: in a hurry to throw away the first three months

1260
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: of your season. I get they tried to do it

1261
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: before the COVID thing pushed everything, but this summer is

1262
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: so dead. All you have is baseball. I still don't

1263
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: know why you couldn't make that work.

1264
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt like that was one thing that the bubble.

1265
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: The bubble created an opportunity to just completely change your calendar, right,

1266
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 4: Like the bubble gave you the opportunity to reimagine everything.

1267
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 4: And I do think your point is a fair one,

1268
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 4: Like in my mind commissioners particularly, but in great business,

1269
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 4: you've got to be incredibly proactive. So you know, you

1270
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: need to have somebody on your staff that's reacting to things.

1271
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 4: You need to be thinking five steps ahead. And one

1272
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: of the things that I think really drives me crazy

1273
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 4: sometimes in management in almost every business is it feels

1274
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 4: like as each thing, it's like, oh, well, now we're

1275
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 4: gonna handle this, and now we're gonna handle this, and

1276
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: it's like, no, your main bosses should be handling things

1277
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 4: that are coming three years from now.

1278
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Speaker 5: I just I want forward thinking in every possible way.

1279
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 4: So I thought there was an opportunity after the bubble

1280
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: in COVID for the NBA to say, hey, let's use

1281
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 4: this and really reimagine everything about how we do business,

1282
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 4: Like this is our opportunity to start this back up

1283
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 4: in a new way, and they didn't.

1284
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 5: They went back to the same old, same old. So

1285
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 5: I think that's a fair criticism.

1286
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 2: I just don't know why you start the way when

1287
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: you start you have. There's no hype for the beginning

1288
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: of your season because you start in the teeth of

1289
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: NFL and college football and Major League Baseball playoffs.

1290
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,959
Speaker 3: So it's like this soft.

1291
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: Opening thing, like why wouldn't you want to come in

1292
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 2: with momentum and excitement and get people say hey, i'd

1293
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Speaker 2: ba's back, and then all of a sudden you'd got

1294
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: a chance to get them. No, everybody hates you. Thought

1295
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: you hate going into the middle of the movie, Turn

1296
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: on the show and watch it. Who wants to do that?

1297
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: And that's the NBA does every season. All right, it's

1298
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: our time nout. NFL's over come to us. Well, I, hey,

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01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: I haven't. I'm not invested in the players. Yeah, I'm

1300
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: talking about the regular fan. Uh what sense does that make?

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 4: You're a thousand I'd never thought of it from the

1302
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 4: way you just said it. But the funny thing is

1303
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: there are so many shows that people tell me I

1304
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: should watch, and Breaking Bad's a great example. Like I

1305
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: watched one episode of Breaking Bad and everybody's like, oh

1306
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 4: my god, you gotta watch this special. Ever, trust me,

1307
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 4: it takes a few episodes and then they gets rolling

1308
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah blah. And all I have to

1309
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 4: do is look at it and be like, oh, I'm

1310
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: so far behind on all of this, like and behind

1311
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 4: in the conversation. I'm behind on talking about it. I'm

1312
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 4: behind on the motor cooler, the motor cooler, the water

1313
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 4: cooler portion of it. I'm I'm just behind, and it

1314
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 4: feels like so much work to catch up on it.

1315
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 4: It's just not worth it to me now, especially not

1316
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: to sit through some of the bad to get to

1317
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 4: the butt and the good, you know, And that I

1318
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 4: think is a pretty fair comparison to what happens when

1319
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 4: you wake up and you're like, okay, now I suddenly

1320
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 4: have to really care about the NBA, for example, And

1321
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 4: you know, if you don't do it for a living,

1322
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 4: if you're just sitting back casually saying all right, now,

1323
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 4: I got to invest in who's good, who plays where,

1324
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: what's going on? Like that? That's it's a really good point.

1325
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 4: I hadn't thought of it that way, but maybe you know,

1326
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 4: the NBA start of the season is a little like

1327
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 4: a TV show. You know that everybody else is binging

1328
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 4: and you're so far behind, and it's like, nah, just

1329
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 4: miss the boat on that one.

1330
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 5: I'll catch it next time.

1331
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 4: But then the problem is next time you're again behind

1332
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 4: on it. It's a never ending cycle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I.

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01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1335
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: I think all three of the other sports have their issues,

1336
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: the other leagues, you know, I listen, NHL is what

1337
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 2: it is. I think the NHL's biggest problem is I know,

1338
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: you want to try to grow and grow and grow,

1339
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: but just be happy that you're you got to You

1340
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: got a good space. You don't need to be king.

1341
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: You got a great lot, all right. It's a great sport.

1342
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 2: Your players and stars play like they don't have load

1343
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: management issues. They play and that's a nasty, tough sport

1344
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: and it's highly entertaining, you know. But you gotta be

1345
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: a hockey fan like that's just the world, right, It's

1346
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, you got to grow up playing the sport,

1347
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: you know. I think grassroots and all the other stuff

1348
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: help expose it. But it's great sport. The players are accessible.

1349
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't have any real issues with the way the

1350
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: game is run. Other than I think you have to

1351
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: temper expectations that you're not going to take over the world.

1352
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's agree.

1353
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 3: I'm a huge Docu fan.

1354
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1355
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: No, I think understanding exactly where you are and exactly who, like,

1356
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 4: what's your audience is? You know, it's again I'll use

1357
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 4: the music comparison to this, but one of the interesting

1358
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 4: in the music businesses if you're a pop act, you

1359
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 4: have one big hit. I remember when One Direction had

1360
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 4: their first hit, and a few months after they had

1361
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: their first hit, they were playing literally sold out arenas everywhere.

1362
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 4: That's pop music, and in country you know exaggeration.

1363
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 5: If you want to fill arenas, you.

1364
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 4: Usually have to have twelve to fifteen number ones, the

1365
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,440
Speaker 4: top three songs. You have to have a whole library

1366
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 4: of songs that people want to come to see you

1367
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 4: in an amphitheater. And one thing about country music is

1368
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: you just start to learn hey, like we're different, Like

1369
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 4: it's a different business. Like you play fairs and festivals

1370
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: and you play little bars and you do all these

1371
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 4: things even after you've had big old hits, right, Like,

1372
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 4: it's just a different world. And if you start chasing

1373
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,879
Speaker 4: the well, why is this pop act doing.

1374
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 5: This and we're not.

1375
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 4: Suddenly you get way out of your lane and things

1376
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 4: get really bad, really fast.

1377
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 5: Like you just got to accept it.

1378
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 4: Hey, these are the metrics of success in our particular industry,

1379
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: and we're having success. And it's a tough pill for

1380
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 4: a lot of people to swallow, you know, Like so

1381
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 4: it takes a long time to be a Morgan Wallen

1382
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 4: even that that's out touring everywhere. So it's it's such

1383
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 4: an interesting thing that how do you, if you're the NBA,

1384
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 4: you know, just sort of insulate your safe myself and say, hey,

1385
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 4: you know, screw it.

1386
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 5: We are who we are, and.

1387
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 4: The people that like us are the people that like us,

1388
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 4: and we're not gonna yell and scream at everybody.

1389
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 5: We're just gonna do it. We do really well and

1390
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 5: serve our main audience.

1391
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 4: But then how if you're doing that, how do you

1392
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 4: get that audience to grow because you might be losing casuals.

1393
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 5: Like there's no easy answer to it.

1394
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 3: No, but you got to get a handle on your

1395
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 3: league first.

1396
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: Like baseball has made great tweaks to the game, right,

1397
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 2: But here's the problem with baseball. The Dodgers and Pirates

1398
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: can't exist in the same universe, like the NFL gave

1399
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: it the answers to the test. The NFL showed you

1400
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 2: how the Rams, the Packers, the Cowboys, and the Giants

1401
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 2: can all exist and it's a fair playing field for that.

1402
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is it's it is interesting that the model

1403
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 4: is out there right here for you.

1404
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: And I don't know how in the world you don't

1405
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 2: follow that model because having right and having Paul skiings

1406
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: buried in the Triple A market, it is sad. That's

1407
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 2: a great baseball town. But if you're a Pirates fan,

1408
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 2: you were up in Pittsburgh in that area, You're like, hello,

1409
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: I mean, why am I even a fan?

1410
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 3: I can't win.

1411
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: The Dodgers have every best great player in Japan and

1412
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: all the money in the world.

1413
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: I can't compete with that.

1414
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's that's really interesting that you're essentially

1415
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: every team that isn't one of four or five in

1416
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 4: baseball is at some level of a farm system, right

1417
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 4: it's all and but their farm system is making great

1418
01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 4: money and they've got great fans. But you know, the

1419
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 4: chance of being you're in and you're out relevant to be

1420
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 4: one of the smarter things that the NFL did also

1421
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 4: even with the franchise tag, was they found a way

1422
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 4: to protect certain players. They found a way to make

1423
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: sure that guys can be held but also get paid

1424
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 4: at the highest possible level. Like is it's taken a

1425
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: lot of compromise from owners and players to get to

1426
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 4: where they are. I feel like the honest answer for

1427
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 4: so much of it is greed. Like even if the

1428
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 4: NBA sat there right now, if every owner in the

1429
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: NBA and every player in the NBA sat down and said,

1430
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 4: you know what, we really need to reduce games, the

1431
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 4: first thing that would be asked is, okay, well, is

1432
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 4: everybody in this process willing to take a pay cut?

1433
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 5: And the answer to that is no. I'll go back

1434
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 5: to earlier talking.

1435
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 4: About the world wanting everybody in America wants a four

1436
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 4: day work week. All right, Well, what if you went

1437
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 4: to your company and said, sure, you want a four

1438
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 4: day work week, we will totally do that. We're going

1439
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 4: to cut if you're gonna work twenty percent less, We're

1440
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 4: just gonna cut your pay by twenty percent. And if

1441
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 4: you want to work four days, I totally support that.

1442
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 4: The problem is most people will turn around be like, well, no,

1443
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to make less money.

1444
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 5: I just want to work less.

1445
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: In the NBA, nobody wants to make less money. The

1446
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 4: owners don't want to make less money, the players don't

1447
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 4: want to make less money, the ad sponsors don't want

1448
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 4: to make less.

1449
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 5: Off of everything.

1450
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 4: Like, everybody wants to make the same money for less work,

1451
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 4: and the matches don't matt that way. So the hard

1452
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 4: part is you would It would take an entire league,

1453
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 4: all of the players, all of the owners, all of

1454
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 4: the front office people, all deciding that they wanted to

1455
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: be selfless for the future of the game to make

1456
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 4: that one right.

1457
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: And it's ridiculous because if you compare it to ten

1458
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: years ago, right, you realize how much more money you

1459
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: were making. So if you just take a portion of

1460
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 2: that of the profits, no one's saying that you got

1461
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 2: to get lean and mean, right, just take a portion

1462
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: of the fat and just trims some of that fat

1463
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: and your gut. You're still living. It's not gonna change it, right,

1464
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 2: You're still living in the one percent world.

1465
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 5: What more do you want?

1466
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, you help the game a

1467
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 2: little bit on the way. Now, there's only one like

1468
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 2: I do think that the NBA is going to stumble

1469
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 2: into something good. And it's it's college nil and kids

1470
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 2: staying in college, and the fact that kids will stay

1471
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 2: in college, get paid play, They're going to grow, they'll

1472
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: have name recognition, they'll be better basketball players, and that

1473
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 2: in turn will make the league better. Agree And the NBA. No, No,

1474
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: it's not the NBA doing that's stumble piece. They got lucky.

1475
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 2: Where the Fellas hagg it out Fox Sports Radio fellas

1476
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: Jason Fitzan Anthony Gargano as we come alive from the

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Speaker 2: tai Raq dot Com studios. Man, FITZI I can't I

1478
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: can't wait. I just can't wait for this game. I

1479
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 2: vacinates Funny because as much as I feel confid sometimes

1480
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: I go back. We had this debate to start to

1481
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,639
Speaker 2: show about how I gave you where the Eagles are

1482
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:12,520
Speaker 2: and how I think it's an impenetrable force their offensive

1483
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: line and really on both fronts. But you are right

1484
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 2: about Andy Spags and Mahomes. Man. You know, as much

1485
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 2: as I can argue against you know this is what

1486
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: hasened in the law football, the laws of the X

1487
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 2: and o's. You still go back to those guys who

1488
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 2: do nothing but win. Is there such a thing, right,

1489
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: And we've seen this in sports is just winners.

1490
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 3: Like I've been doing this a long time, right.

1491
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: I covered Jordan in Chicago, I covered the Yankees in

1492
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:53,879
Speaker 2: New York. I've seen greatness and man Mahomes has it.

1493
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: It's it's so rare. But those guys that just don't

1494
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 2: lose it, it's pretty amazing.

1495
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 5: I keep going back to.

1496
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 4: The concept in my mind of the absence of pressure,

1497
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 4: and when you've been to as many Super Bowls, when

1498
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 4: you've been in as many wild moments, like we always

1499
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: talk about who's gonna fold in the pressure? And I

1500
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 4: just I I remember the first time I was on

1501
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 4: radio at ESPN one time, and I just started at

1502
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: ESPN at the time, and we were about to have

1503
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 4: a guest and the whole system failed, and I remember

1504
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 4: being caught off guard and I stood there like just

1505
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 4: a deer in the hair headlights, live on radio. I

1506
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 4: didn't know what to do, you know, And it was

1507
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 4: a reminder to me that I had seen the craziest things,

1508
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 4: Like we played a show with the Van Perry when

1509
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 4: I was touring one time where it got so hot

1510
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 4: in Arizona that the entire sound system failed in the

1511
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: middle of the concert, and I immediately on stage was

1512
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 4: able to be like, Okay, just what we're gonna do.

1513
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 4: We're all gonna grab our acoustic instruments, We're gonna walk

1514
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: through the crowd, We're gonna go over here.

1515
01:15:58,439 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 5: It was like a big It was like a big fair.

1516
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 5: So we did this whole thing.

1517
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 4: We bought ourselves to ten minutes that they needed to

1518
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: figure it out.

1519
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 5: We got back on stage, we kept rolling, and.

1520
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 4: I realized in the moment that you know, a little

1521
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 4: thing went wrong on radio, and I was lost. What

1522
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 4: hit me is, Man, I need more experience in this business.

1523
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 4: I don't know how to handle variables right. And so

1524
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 4: flash forward to before I left ESPN and I was

1525
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 4: hosting OTL one Time Outside the Lines and everything failed

1526
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 4: on live TV, and I knew exactly what to do

1527
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 4: because I'd been there. Not only say that, because like everybody,

1528
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 4: your first day at work, you're tight because you don't

1529
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 4: know what to do, like there is something to we

1530
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 4: just win when you've been in these situations so many times,

1531
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 4: Because your heart rate doesn't raise like you've been here,

1532
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 4: you don't feel any sort of weirdness. You're like, yeah,

1533
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: this is this is part of the course. We all

1534
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 4: know how this goes. It's fine, and I do think

1535
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 4: that people, naturally, human beings naturally get tight. But when

1536
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 4: you have lived the close game experience in Kansas City

1537
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 4: has lived, and when you live the super Bowls that

1538
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 4: they've lived, I just think there's a total absence of

1539
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 4: pressure and that man, that level of call is different.

1540
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 4: That's why I think it's part of their identity.

1541
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: Now here's the advantage for the Eagles. They've been there before, right,

1542
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: Like they faced Kansas City. They lost to Kansas City,

1543
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: but they've been to the super Bowl, this group two

1544
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: years ago. It's a rematch and Rocky two wins. Rocky

1545
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: wins the rematch in Rocky.

1546
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 5: Two, right, Yeah, that's fair.

1547
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 2: Is fair. So the having been there and they're a

1548
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: much better team. So they're a much better team. They're

1549
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: equipped now to be there. They Jalen knows about it,

1550
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 2: hurts understands what it's like, how long halftime is, all

1551
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: those nuances about the Super Bowl that make it both

1552
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 2: incredible and a hassle for the players.

1553
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: So we'll dive into it.

1554
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: We've got lots to get to where the fellas right

1555
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: here in Fox Sports Radio.

1556
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: Don't listen no Fox Sports.

1557
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning. It

1558
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: is seven am in the east, four m in the west.

1559
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:16,320
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1560
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1561
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1564
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Speaker 2: should be. Uh, this is the week where we just

1565
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 2: go there's no football and this is the long trudge

1566
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: until Super Bowl Sunday. And uh, I want to go

1567
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 2: back to the championship game for a second. And if

1568
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: you're Buffalo, because my heart goes out to the Bills.

1569
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: I I mean, my god, how much torment can one

1570
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 2: city take? Can a great fan base like the Bills?

1571
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: I just feel for him. That was just an awful, tough,

1572
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 2: tough loss because FITZI you know, they're a great team man,

1573
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: And when they had when they needed it right, and

1574
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,480
Speaker 2: they're driving down the field and they get a Cooks

1575
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: starting to go and they're running the ball, well they

1576
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: take the lead. You just went, all right, Well, this

1577
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 2: is this could be it that you never kept the

1578
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: Chiefs out because of who they are, but you go,

1579
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 2: this could be it. And the fact that they couldn't

1580
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 2: close the deal right after you fall behind early the

1581
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 2: whole thing. You just wonder, can this Can these Bills

1582
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: ever beat Kansas City?

1583
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 4: Well, the hard part about that is I found myself

1584
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 4: saying the same thing last year when they lost at home. Man,

1585
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 4: he didn't beat him at home, And this Kansas City

1586
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 4: offense looked pretty broken last year. It's like, oh man,

1587
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 4: now they're ever gonna do it? And then this year

1588
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 4: they get right back into the same situation, and it's

1589
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 4: just it is why I think it's a fair point

1590
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,839
Speaker 4: when we talk about you know, Josh Allen and legacy,

1591
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 4: when we keep you keep hearing the NBA Tians. I

1592
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: like that a lot to Patrick viewing Charles Barkley, like

1593
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 4: what do you do when you are taking on you know, Mahomes?

1594
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 4: And I think it speaks to why there's a fine

1595
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 4: line for all of this, because the Bills are clearly.

1596
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 5: A great football team. They are, and they clearly can't

1597
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,679
Speaker 5: seem to climb this mountain against Kansas City.

1598
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 4: So the hard part about it is this becomes what

1599
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 4: we do all the time, Like it becomes this team sucks.

1600
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 4: You know, you can't, you can't, you can't do anything.

1601
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 4: The Bills annually are reported is dead and annually become

1602
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 4: one of the best teams in the AFC, and then

1603
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 4: annually they lose to Mahomes And I don't know what

1604
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 4: to do with that with kNN Like, I think that

1605
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 4: you can be one of the best teams in the

1606
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:05,879
Speaker 4: league year in and year out and should be respected

1607
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 4: as such, even if you can't beat the Chiefs, and

1608
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 4: that's just sort.

1609
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 5: Of where they are.

1610
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 4: Like imagine if Twitter and twenty four hour sports talk

1611
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 4: and everything existed when the Bills lost four straight Super Bowls, Oh,

1612
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 4: they would have just been annihilated at levels that would

1613
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 4: have been uncomfortable year in and year out. And the

1614
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 4: hard part is in trying not to do that, Like

1615
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 4: I think you have to have some context that like

1616
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 4: being one of the four or five best teams in

1617
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,919
Speaker 4: the NFL for a five.

1618
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 5: Year period is just not easy to do.

1619
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 4: And yeah, you want to get the Super Bowl out

1620
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 4: of it, because that's what we all that, that's what

1621
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 4: everybody's chasing.

1622
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 5: But I just think that we have to start to.

1623
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 4: Apply more context to conversations about individual legacy and team greatness,

1624
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 4: understanding that it's two things can be true. The Bills

1625
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 4: lose to the Chiefs, and also the Bills are really

1626
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 4: stinking good football franchise.

1627
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 5: Like I just that.

1628
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 4: Doesn't bills someone to hear that, because all anybody wants

1629
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 4: is a super Bowl. But man, I just I can't

1630
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 4: give up on this Bill's team. They're far better than that.

1631
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 4: They deserve better than that. I just wouldn't pick them

1632
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 4: to build them to beat the Chiefs. They're gonna have

1633
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 4: to either get lucky at some point or they're gonna

1634
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 4: have to hope that somebody else figures out how to

1635
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 4: beat the Chiefs form and then take advantage of that window.

1636
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 5: I think there's this part of me for Buffalo.

1637
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 4: My heart breaks for Bills fans, My heart breaks for

1638
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: sports fans in general, for the way that we cover everything,

1639
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 4: because it's become if you don't have a Super Bowl,

1640
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 4: you suck. And when I say things like this so often,

1641
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 4: I get hit on social media with well, that's a loser's.

1642
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 5: Mentality, and it isn't.

1643
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 4: There has to be a fine line here, and there

1644
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 4: has to be an understanding that you know, why is it?

1645
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 4: For example, we watch the Olympics every year. You win

1646
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 4: a silver medal at the Olympics, you didn't suck. You

1647
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 4: win a bronze medal at the Olympics, you didn't suck

1648
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: like you still want a silver or bronze. And even

1649
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 4: for team sports, you still want a silver or bronze.

1650
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 4: I'm not sitting here saying that you shoot for second place,

1651
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 4: third place, but at some point you do have to

1652
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 4: acknowledge that, hey, we are one of the best. And

1653
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 4: is there one thing that the Bills could do to

1654
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 4: get over the hump to beat the Chiefs. I don't

1655
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 4: think so, because I don't think that there's been one

1656
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 4: glaring problem. Do I think that they could use some

1657
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 4: help on the defensive side of the ball in a

1658
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: few places? Yeah, And I still believe, even though Bills

1659
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 4: fans have crushed before it, that they could use a

1660
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 4: go to number one guy that they can actually get

1661
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,919
Speaker 4: the ball to in every situation.

1662
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 5: I think their.

1663
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 4: Offense could have used some help instead of just relying

1664
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 4: on constantly Josh Allen and hoping that you can get

1665
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 4: that yard that way. I think there are things that

1666
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 4: I hope Buffalo addresses. But even if they address everything,

1667
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 4: if Buffalo has the best off season we've ever seen,

1668
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 4: do we still believe they're going to beat the Chiefs.

1669
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 4: That's the hardest part about this is that we want

1670
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 4: everything to be as simple as go add some things.

1671
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 4: But sometimes it's not that you're cursed. Sometimes it's just

1672
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 4: not there for you. And right now it feels like

1673
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 4: in this era, Buffalo's got to have to figure out

1674
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 4: how to appreciate the greatness that they have while still

1675
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 4: hoping that they can have even more. Because what I

1676
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 4: don't want I don't want Bills fans to make the

1677
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 4: same mistake that I made as a Raiders fan twenty

1678
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 4: years ago when the Raiders lost the Super Bowl. I

1679
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 4: remember so distinctly saying to my friends, I would I'd

1680
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 4: rather not even make the playoffs. I'd rather not even

1681
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 4: make the playoffs to get my heart broken year in

1682
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: and year out in the playoffs with these wild losses

1683
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: that you just can't explain. It's so heartbreaking. And then

1684
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 4: I went through a dozen seasons of double digit losses consecutively,

1685
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 4: and you realize at that point that the most helpless

1686
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 4: feeling in sports isn't running into a team that you

1687
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 4: can't figure out how to get around. The most helpless

1688
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 4: feeling in sports is being so terrible that you don't

1689
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 4: have a chance, more often than not to even be relevant.

1690
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 4: So for Buffalo, the hard part about all of this is,

1691
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 4: remember the Bulls lost a couple of years to the

1692
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 4: Pistons before they were able to break through. The Pistons

1693
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 4: had to break through the Celtics like we're so used

1694
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 4: to seeing teams have to break through. The problem is

1695
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 4: with the society we live in now, with the year

1696
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 4: and year out, with the twenty four to twenty four

1697
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,520
Speaker 4: hour news cycle, with everything that sort of motivates our conversation,

1698
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 4: with everybody wanting to yell hot takes everywhere, it has

1699
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 4: to become take a side. I think the real side

1700
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 4: on Buffalo for being honest for a minute. The real

1701
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 4: side is that the Bills are really good and that

1702
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 4: feels like a horrible place to be, but it's not

1703
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 4: because you know, my friends and coworkers that I've worked

1704
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 4: with in the past that actually played in the league

1705
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 4: always said the same thing. If you get in the

1706
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: dance kind of chance, what you pay for in sports

1707
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 4: with your roster, with your lineup, and what you should

1708
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 4: hope for for a fan base is proximity. Proximity to

1709
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 4: a championship is what this is all about, right, So

1710
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 4: how do you get proximity to greatness?

1711
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,799
Speaker 5: Because if you are at least in.

1712
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 4: This final eight, if you make the playoffs, you have

1713
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: a chance of doing something great. You never know if

1714
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 4: you're going to be the team they can do the unexpects.

1715
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 4: And if you can get to the final four, you

1716
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,799
Speaker 4: are right on the doorstep and you have proximity to greatness.

1717
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 4: And one or two plays can be the difference. They

1718
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 4: have been the difference you're in and you're out. One

1719
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 4: or two plays have been the difference between seeing the

1720
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 4: Chiefs in the Super Bowl seeing the Bills in the

1721
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. So do you blow everything up and try

1722
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 4: and rebuild it for two plays? For three plays?

1723
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 5: Don't? I don't take that risk.

1724
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 4: I see Bills fans that are frustrated saying fire everybody.

1725
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 4: But man, if you turn around and fire everybody, you're

1726
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 4: rebuilding from the ground up with no assurance that that's

1727
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 4: going to get you to those two or three plays. Anthony,

1728
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 4: I just think we need a word, We need a

1729
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 4: way to appreciate Hey, we're one of the best, and

1730
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 4: the Bills are one of the best. Super Bowl or not,

1731
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 4: they're one of the best teams of this era. And

1732
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 4: I just I don't have a message of hope for fans.

1733
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 4: But I also don't think that turning around and being despondent,

1734
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 4: like you're not the worst team in the league. You

1735
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 4: can't just turn around and throw your hands up and

1736
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 4: blow everything up just because you have had four or

1737
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 4: five plays go the wrong way in the last three

1738
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 4: seasons postseasons combined.

1739
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Good dude, you talk about it, right, a handful of plays.

1740
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 3: The problem is the pass too.

1741
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,759
Speaker 2: It's the history because it's the same as the last

1742
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: run of the nineties, right, it's so close when you're

1743
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 2: the Kings of close, it's torturous and that's the problem.

1744
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: But you're right. I mean during Great Franchise, I heard

1745
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: somebody brought up moving on from Sean McDermott. In fact,

1746
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: by buddy Mike Garratfalla from the NFL Network was talking

1747
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 2: to someone. Somebody brought it up that if they don't

1748
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:46,720
Speaker 2: win next year, is Sean on the hot seat? I'm like, what,

1749
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: how could you possibly think about moving off of McDermott.

1750
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 4: That's where and Bill's fans are so fired up about

1751
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 4: some of the mistakes and some of the in game

1752
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 4: management things, and they'll hit us social media with a

1753
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 4: bevy of things, a list of things. And man, hiring

1754
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 4: a coach, there's a lot like drafting a quarterback.

1755
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 5: It's a crapshoot.

1756
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 4: It's a total none of us have any idea from

1757
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 4: this hiring cycle, like will Ben Johnson be a good

1758
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 4: head coach?

1759
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 5: None of us know. None of us know.

1760
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 4: And so as excited, you know, as the fan of

1761
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,680
Speaker 4: a team that has had now fifteen coaches in the

1762
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 4: last thirty one years, the real number for the Raiders,

1763
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 4: fifteen head coaches in thirty one years, I just would

1764
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 4: remind everybody that for every McDermott that you think is

1765
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 4: just easily replaceable, I can give you a laundry list

1766
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 4: of names that won't work. There a laundry list. So

1767
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 4: you know, the problem is you're beating your head against Walt.

1768
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 4: You want something to change because you want a different outcome.

1769
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 4: But you know, is mass change going to make two plays?

1770
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 4: And that's like, is mass change going to change to

1771
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 4: thirteen seconds at the end of the last game, and

1772
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 4: you know people will point to one or two mistakes

1773
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 4: in different games. You can do that with everything. You

1774
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: can do that with Josh Allen point to a couple

1775
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 4: of missthrows here or there. Does that suddenly mean that

1776
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 4: you need to go out and draft a different quarterback

1777
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 4: than Josh Allen? No, like, there's just you just got

1778
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 4: to have some And this is impossible because fans short

1779
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 4: for fanatic. You got to stop the clock for a second,

1780
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 4: like you gotta stop the emotion for a second and

1781
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,640
Speaker 4: just say, Okay, are we good enough to win a

1782
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 4: super Bowl? And the answer for the Bills is yeah,

1783
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 4: they're good enough to win a super Bowl. Okay, then

1784
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: let's just keep trying to win a super Bowl. And again,

1785
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 4: not the answer everybody wants, but I think it's the

1786
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 4: most honest answer. The most honest answer is that the

1787
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 4: Bills are gonna have to get a lucky break to

1788
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 4: get through Kansas City. And I don't care who their

1789
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: coach is, I don't care what changes on their roster.

1790
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 4: Ad they could add five new players that are all

1791
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 4: all stars this offseason and we are still going to

1792
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 4: look at it next year. If they're playing Kansas City

1793
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 4: in the playoffs and say, I don't know, you beat

1794
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 4: the Chiefs and you know somehow, some way, if I

1795
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 4: had to bet my house on it, I bet the

1796
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 4: Chiefs still figure out a way to win that game.

1797
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 5: Because that's just the way it seems to go right now.

1798
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. I feel here's the thing, like

1799
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: you could always point to things you disagree, do you

1800
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:11,799
Speaker 2: think because I don't now, I I'll defire the local

1801
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 2: people that live and die with every play. Like I mean,

1802
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: we watch the Bills every week. I don't see egregious

1803
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 2: mistakes from McDermott. I mean there's always a hey, should

1804
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 2: I have gone forward or whatever? But I don't see

1805
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 2: a lot of game management, do you.

1806
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 4: No, But people are freaking out about you know, James

1807
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 4: Cooch should have gotten the ball more. He's just stepped

1808
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 4: in on that like a couple of years ago.

1809
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's your off. I mean, that's Brady. He's

1810
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 2: got to be able to do that. Like head coaches,

1811
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: you have your game plan and you have your play caller,

1812
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 2: and head coaches during the game will say, hey, man,

1813
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, like don't forget about cook or whatever. But

1814
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,280
Speaker 2: you're not You're not going to disrupt the flow. It

1815
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 2: doesn't work like that.

1816
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree.

1817
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 4: It's it's tough because no, I don't see some grotesque

1818
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 4: mismanagement by McDermott, and you don't see the locker room dividing.

1819
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 5: You don't see everybody hitting each other.

1820
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 2: But I feel well coached too, like a team that's

1821
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 2: prepared every week to play.

1822
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do have to wonder, like what at what

1823
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 4: point it's just a mental seed that's been planted that

1824
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 4: there's just not an easy way to get around, and

1825
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 4: don't I don't know the answer to that, Like, at

1826
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 4: what point is it? Is it just stuck in the

1827
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 4: heads of the players, And I don't know how you

1828
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 4: get past it if that's where you are. And that's

1829
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 4: just one of those this happens in every era, like

1830
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 4: and this is where again I would I would beg

1831
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 4: for context, like before I was alive. But growing up

1832
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 4: as a is a Raiders fan, you always hear about

1833
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 4: those seventies Raiders teams and how good they were.

1834
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 5: Well, part of the.

1835
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 4: Reason those seventies Raiders teams didn't accomplish what some wanted

1836
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,560
Speaker 4: them to accomplish were wild, weird endings against.

1837
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 5: The Pittsburgh Steelers.

1838
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 4: Right, But we still go back and look back at

1839
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 4: that Raiders team and say, oh my god, they were fit, fantastic.

1840
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 4: Why are we incapable of doing that now? Why can

1841
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 4: we not? Now look at the Bills and say, yeah, man,

1842
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 4: they keep losing in the weirdest ways to the Chiefs,

1843
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 4: but god, they're fantastic, Like year in and year out,

1844
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 4: they are a great They're they're a very good team

1845
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 4: on a great franchise like that. That's that's the real answer.

1846
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what else to I mean,

1847
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 2: it's how we keep score. We got to this title

1848
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: or Boston, we don't. We don't appreciate teams that don't win.

1849
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: It's a shame.

1850
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:38,920
Speaker 4: It's Ricky Bobby, Like if he ain't first, your last, No, no,

1851
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 4: Ricky Bobby, you can finish second, you can finish third.

1852
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 4: As I said earlier, I have never seen us other

1853
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 4: than the basketball team, which you know, I could go

1854
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 4: back and question some of that too. We come home

1855
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 4: with a bronze medal in you know, in the Olympics,

1856
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 4: are we booing them? Are we saying God, that team sucked?

1857
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 4: Like no, Like if we if we at the Winter Olympics,

1858
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 4: come home with the silver medal in hockey, We're not

1859
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 4: like sitting there when they land saying, yeah, well I

1860
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 4: should have won the gold, Like I don't know what

1861
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 4: you're celebrating there, Like there is nuance to this, Like

1862
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 4: you happen to be in the same conference, so you're

1863
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,600
Speaker 4: not losing super Bowls. But you could certainly make the

1864
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 4: argument that the Bills have been the second or third

1865
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 4: best team in the NFL for the majority of the

1866
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,800
Speaker 4: last four years. Like that's a pretty easy argument to make. So, yeah,

1867
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 4: you're right there, you're one of the best teams of

1868
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 4: the era. Appreciate it instead of hating it.

1869
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And here's the and here's the truth of the

1870
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: matter is they're going to be back next year. Like

1871
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere. You still have a they have

1872
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 2: a great old line, they have a great quarterback. You know,

1873
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean here, they're not going they're not going anywhere.

1874
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 2: They're going to be back next year. They're in the

1875
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 2: bets next year again.

1876
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 5: Yep.

1877
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1878
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 3: It is a torturous existence though for the fan base.

1879
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 2: Like you just know, I know, it sucks.

1880
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 4: It sucks.

1881
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 3: God in Philadelphia.

1882
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 2: Remember the Eagles don't win their first Super Bowl until

1883
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:15,839
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen. That it's twenty seventeen season and it's February

1884
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen. That's when they win their first super Bowl.

1885
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 2: And in all those great years that Andy Reid had

1886
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:26,719
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, they only went to one super Bowl and lost.

1887
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 5: Yep.

1888
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 4: So Andy Reid's the perfect the perfect case study for

1889
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 4: all of us.

1890
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 5: Is Andy Reid?

1891
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 4: Like, you know, yes, maybe the Eagles are better and

1892
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 4: Andy Reid's better for better off for all of it.

1893
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 4: But maybe that turned out to be really smart by them.

1894
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 5: Okay. I also will go back to I think we.

1895
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 4: Were having the wrong conversations a lot about Andy Reid

1896
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 4: at the time, like the whole he can't win the

1897
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 4: big one, blah blah blah, Like those were the conversations

1898
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 4: we were having about Andy Reid. What do you know,

1899
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 4: It turns out Andy Reid does not have a hard

1900
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,760
Speaker 4: time winning the big One. It turns out that.

1901
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 5: Andy read really good at winning the big games.

1902
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 4: And so I guess that's that's my argument on all

1903
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 4: of this is like at some point and it's just

1904
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 4: it's just not as simple as that.

1905
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,160
Speaker 2: You know, dude, You're you're spot on, And I argue

1906
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 2: all the time with people because they go, well, he

1907
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: went to Kansas City and learned how to win.

1908
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 3: He's the same coach.

1909
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah you tell me you got Mahomes, all right, Like

1910
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 2: that matters. Obviously in Philadelphia he had Donovan McNabb, a

1911
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 2: very good quarterback, but not a great quarterback. A prime

1912
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: example is that it's that zero five super Bowl against

1913
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 2: the Patriots and it's the first EF. It's a game,

1914
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 2: and in fact, they finished tied at halftime, and there's

1915
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 2: a play that Andy dials up. It's a wheel route

1916
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 2: to Westbrook and McNabb just missed the throw. He's got

1917
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 2: it, it's a touchdown and he missed the throw. Like that's

1918
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 2: what happened. Afterwards, mcdabb comes off the field and he

1919
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 2: asked them what happened. He goes the wind tucket and

1920
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: he's like, the wind Tucket, Wow, I guess it was

1921
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 2: a little breezy down there. That was the difference in

1922
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: the in the football game was the second half. They

1923
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 2: figured out how to beat Jim Johnson's blitz by dumping

1924
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 2: it off to the backs and Brady's Brady right, and

1925
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: they were able to win the game. And after I

1926
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:23,280
Speaker 2: sat with Andy, this was like right before the combine

1927
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 2: or right after the combine, and we were sitting there

1928
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Speaker 2: talking about things, and he said, I said, well, ultimately,

1929
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Speaker 2: what was the difference between you and New England? Like

1930
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 2: what did you learn? He said, I mean, truthfully, they

1931
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 2: did differences. They had twelve and we had five, and

1932
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 2: twelve played better than five. And that's that's really it.

1933
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Speaker 2: Like he's the same coach. He drew up the same

1934
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Speaker 2: place that worked. Like if McNabb hits Westbrook on the

1935
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Speaker 2: wheel route for a touchdown and the Eagles going to

1936
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 2: win that game, how much difference? How will you view

1937
01:36:58,800 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 2: things that?

1938
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Speaker 4: I mean, think about Jimmy Garoppolo. How much different is

1939
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo's entire legacy if the forty nine ers hold

1940
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 4: on to the lead at the end of that game, right, Like,

1941
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 4: that's where it's just it is all. It's also I

1942
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 4: understand that we are a championship star of society. There

1943
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 4: has to be a better way to count. There just

1944
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 4: has to be a better way to count, because this

1945
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 4: error is going to require it. I refuse to believe

1946
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:29,719
Speaker 4: that Trent Dilford is a better quarterback than Dan Marino.

1947
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 4: So miss me with the quarterback super Bowl conversations, and

1948
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 4: I refuse to believe that Lamar and Josh Allen aren't

1949
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 4: going to end up being Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks.

1950
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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow could too.

1951
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Speaker 4: And I genuinely like, as much as nobody wants to

1952
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 4: hear this, it wouldn't stun me at all. Like, if

1953
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 4: Kansas City wins next Sunday, let's just accept the fact

1954
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 4: that there's nothing out of the realm of possible for

1955
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 4: this team. They could win the next four or five

1956
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,799
Speaker 4: in a row for all we know, And if that happens,

1957
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 4: I know it takes a lot to do that. If

1958
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 4: that happens, even if they don't win one year, you're

1959
01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 4: gonna have Lamar, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow all at

1960
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 4: once trying to win that one Super Bowl. Like there

1961
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 4: are going to be Hall of Fame quarterbacks that don't

1962
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 4: get a Super Bowl. So we've got to find ways

1963
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 4: other than championships to truly judge success of an organization.

1964
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 4: It's just it has to be more nuanced than that.

1965
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thraw out an idea on the other side,

1966
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Speaker 2: because I think you're right. We're the fellas Jason fitz

1967
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Speaker 2: Anthony gargantem right here, Fox Sports Radio.

1968
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Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1969
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Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1970
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Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1971
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Speaker 7: listen live.

1972
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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz Anthony Garganta, We don't forget. Rapid Radio's the

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Speaker 2: percent off and free shipping. So, yeah, you brought up

1979
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 2: how we keep score, FITZI I how else is there? Yeah,

1980
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Speaker 2: you come up with an idea.

1981
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Speaker 5: Well here's the thing I think. Okay, so stick with

1982
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 5: me for a second.

1983
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Speaker 4: Okay, Because we live in a in a world where

1984
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:40,520
Speaker 4: there is more than ever there's more ability for context

1985
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 4: than we've ever had. All Right, so you can go

1986
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 4: to YouTube and you can watch, right, we can watch

1987
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 4: more things than we've ever been able to see. There's clips,

1988
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 4: there's everything uploaded. Like you know, I found myself recently

1989
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 4: on UNLV watching UNLV win a national championship one on

1990
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 4: three seventy three Overduke on YouTube. Why because it brought

1991
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 4: me joy going back to.

1992
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 5: My childhood right so you can watch it.

1993
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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1994
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Speaker 2: I think part of what college basketball my god, Yes.

1995
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Speaker 4: Part of what we have to start to understand is

1996
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Speaker 4: that we're going to need to as a society watch

1997
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Speaker 4: talk and think about things differently. So again, as I

1998
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 4: sit here in my office, humble Brag full of golden

1999
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 4: platinum records on the wall, I just love saying that

2000
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: I will remind the world that Sweet Home Alabama peaked

2001
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 4: at number thirteen. It was number thirteen on the charts.

2002
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 4: Aerosmith never had a number one song until Don't Want

2003
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 4: to Miss a Thing from the Armageddon soundtrack. All of

2004
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 4: those other Aerosmith songs we've ever listened to did not

2005
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 4: go to number one. Are those viewed as failures? No,

2006
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 4: Like they're timeless, and they're timeless because they continue to

2007
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 4: be played and then continue to be talked about. Can

2008
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,760
Speaker 4: people continue to sing them? And I know the music

2009
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Speaker 4: is different.

2010
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Speaker 5: It's sports blah blah blahs where everybody hits.

2011
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 4: Me with it, But like there is this moment to

2012
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 4: me where it becomes the responsibility of the storytellers of

2013
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 4: the era to continually remind people of the greatness of

2014
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 4: things that may not be remembered the right way. Like

2015
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 4: all we can do is the society is say, hey,

2016
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 4: go watch it, Like if you want, if you truly

2017
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 4: want to know what it was like to watch Walter

2018
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 4: Payton run the football, you can do it now, Like

2019
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 4: that's something that they didn't have twenty years ago. Like

2020
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 4: twenty years ago you just had to take somebody's word

2021
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 4: on what Jim Brown looked like, right, Like there wasn't

2022
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 4: footage of everything, and it wasn't uploaded everywhere there is footage.

2023
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Speaker 5: Of everything from this era.

2024
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Speaker 4: So to me, this becomes about recalibrating our conversation and

2025
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Speaker 4: understanding that you know, like it's the Supreme Court when

2026
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 4: they were asked, you know what's poorn? You know when

2027
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 4: you see it? What success? You know it when you

2028
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 4: see it, Like you cannot tell me that the Buffalo

2029
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 4: this era of Buffalo Bill's football has been a failure.

2030
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Speaker 4: And then in the same context, tried, like imagine if

2031
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 4: aliens came to Earth and in twenty years we're sitting

2032
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Speaker 4: here trying to explain success and failure in the l

2033
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Speaker 4: You want to tell me that we're going to show

2034
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 4: those aliens what I've watched from the Raiders in the

2035
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 4: last three years versus what Bills fans has watched from Buffalo,

2036
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 4: and tell them those are the same things. Those are

2037
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 4: both the same failures. They're not like one is a

2038
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 4: very good football team, one is a trash football team. Right,

2039
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 4: That's just the way it goes here. So I think

2040
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 4: that what we have to do is we just have

2041
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:24,360
Speaker 4: to change the conversation, Like we have to stop implying

2042
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 4: that the only thing that is success is a.

2043
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Chance of some title thing, gotta get a chip, or

2044
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 2: it's or it's worthless.

2045
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Speaker 10: No.

2046
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Speaker 2: I and I loved your concept of it's on the storytellers.

2047
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 2: It's on the scribes that you know, outline history to

2048
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: remind people of the greatness. I mean, there's more than one.

2049
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 2: I hate to do this because it sounds out haughtier

2050
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: or whatever, but I truly love sports. I love the

2051
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 2: chess match and I love the art of movement. Right,

2052
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 2: So is it it's art? We watch it, we admire it.

2053
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: We watch greatness and admire greatness, and you know, we

2054
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 2: put art in a museum and we go there and

2055
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 2: admire it. So watching the Bills play is a great

2056
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: art form.

2057
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Speaker 5: I like that analogy a lot.

2058
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 4: Man, that's like, don't we don't we all know enough now?

2059
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 4: And I don't care if you just like I don't

2060
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 4: care if you've never sat down. I'm very lucky in

2061
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 4: my life to have been able to sit down and

2062
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 4: watch film like you have with with people that are

2063
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 4: incredibly smart and try to learn along the way. Even

2064
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 4: if you've never done that, If all you've ever done

2065
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,759
Speaker 4: is play Madden in your life, you have a better

2066
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 4: basic understanding of football than anybody was allowed to had

2067
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 4: the opportunity to have in the eighties.

2068
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know.

2069
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 4: So, Like we're smarter than ever with these things. So

2070
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 4: if we're smarter than ever with these things, why can

2071
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 4: we not use that intelligence to apply nuance to a conversation,

2072
01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 4: Like there's a there's a place and an important place

2073
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 4: in sports talk for debate shows where they yell at

2074
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,799
Speaker 4: each other. I think that's that's fun, it's engaging, it's entertaining,

2075
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 4: But my god, there has to be some level of.

2076
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 5: Nuance to this and and.

2077
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 2: Well, appreciate what you're talking about is appreciation you're talking about, right, like,

2078
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 2: we all the reason why we do this and people

2079
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:29,639
Speaker 2: listen is that we have this, you know, shared love

2080
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: of sports.

2081
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 3: And so if we have a love of.

2082
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 2: It, there's an appreciation for the participants and that can't

2083
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 2: that has to be at the forefront along with debate

2084
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 2: shows and you know, this guy is stupid and that

2085
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 2: guy's great, and this guy stinks and this guy is

2086
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 2: a genius and he's a goat. There also has to

2087
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 2: be room for and I'm with you one hundred percent

2088
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 2: where we just go into the louver and admire the

2089
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 2: Mona Lisa in her new poem, right like like we

2090
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 2: go in and admire all the paintings, right, admire all

2091
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 2: of it like they're it's okay to do that. I

2092
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 2: in fact, I love it. I so much about football.

2093
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 2: It's so is great today. I think our era you're

2094
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 2: and you're spot on about the ability to know and learn.

2095
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 2: It's it's so different than it was when we were

2096
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 2: growing up.

2097
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I look at you.

2098
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 4: You you're blowing my mind with this art and ology.

2099
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 4: Let me hop in here real quick because the very

2100
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 4: specific story with the art thing that that I'll never forget.

2101
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 4: We were on tour in Italy and I went to

2102
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Speaker 4: one of the big the museum that has the statue

2103
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 4: with David. Forgive me for not remembering which one of

2104
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 4: that is. So we went to the so we were.

2105
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 4: We went in and we had a guide through the museum, right,

2106
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,200
Speaker 4: and I remember walking up to one painting and I thought, man,

2107
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 4: I said out loud to our our tour guide. I

2108
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 4: was like this, Sorry, I don't get art, but this sucks.

2109
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,600
Speaker 4: Why is this up on the wall? I don't know

2110
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,240
Speaker 4: anything about art? And the tour guy said that painting

2111
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 4: is on the wall because it's the first ever painting

2112
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 4: in history that used depth. Everything up until this point

2113
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 4: in that era had been flat. This was the first

2114
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 4: one that allowed for depth perception to be something that

2115
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 4: was painted. So it's a historic piece of work. And

2116
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,759
Speaker 4: I looked at I stood there, man, for like fifteen minutes.

2117
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:25,600
Speaker 4: It just looked at it in all And as I

2118
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 4: walked through that whole museum, I asked questions about every

2119
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 4: one of those paintings because I don't get art, but

2120
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 4: I wanted to. I want to have an understanding for

2121
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 4: it was one of the most surreal days of my life.

2122
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 4: I learned more that day in that museum than I

2123
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 4: think I did in history class in four years of

2124
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 4: high school and it was on spining. But here was

2125
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:45,719
Speaker 4: this piece of art that I thought, well, this is junk.

2126
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 4: Wi is it on the wall? Then you get the

2127
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 4: story of why it's on the wall, and you have

2128
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 4: context on it, and now all of a sudden it resonates.

2129
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 4: You understand it, you understand why it's important, you understand

2130
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 4: why it hits, you understand why it's there.

2131
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 5: That's sort of what has to.

2132
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 4: Happen, you know, like this this era of football, Like

2133
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:03,680
Speaker 4: if all you do is pull up Wiki and look

2134
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 4: at who won and lost Super Bowls, you are losing

2135
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 4: the entire concept of explaining to somebody, well, this was

2136
01:47:10,439 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 4: the first one that had depth. And that's that's what

2137
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 4: we've got to start to do. We've got to bring

2138
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 4: that depth into these conversations about bab like it.

2139
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 3: I love it, I love it, I love it. I

2140
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 3: absolutely love this.

2141
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: I do because we should be able to appreciate. We

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Speaker 2: don't do it enough. We got a bad A lot

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01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 2: of times we have a bad attitude. We don't appreciate

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01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 2: some of the greatness and appreciate what we love. If

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01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 2: we love something, why's the first word out of our

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01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 2: mouth to denigrate it?

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Speaker 5: And that is there is an interesting phenomenon.

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Speaker 4: I would I would beg we're having a deep conversation

2149
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 4: y'all this morning, but I would beg you, beg you

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01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 4: to watch with this mindset when you watch any of

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01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,559
Speaker 4: the major networks over the course of the next you know, year,

2152
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:04,679
Speaker 4: watch what happens the day after a game and ask

2153
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: yourself this, are they leading with who lost?

2154
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 5: Or leading with who won?

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01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 4: Because nine times out of ten, when it's a big

2156
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 4: game between two teams, the conversation the day after last

2157
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:20,000
Speaker 4: week's game was not about, man, I cannot believe how

2158
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 4: the Chiefs got this done. The conversation was Bills fail again.

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01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 4: And that's that's we approach everything in sports now with

2160
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 4: oh man, let's rip the loser. Let's rip the loser,

2161
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 4: and we spend very like. Look, the super Bowl is

2162
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 4: a week from tomorrow, and you can bet your ass

2163
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 4: if Kansas City wins that thing on a last second

2164
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 4: field goal. The first talking point the next day is

2165
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 4: gonna be to so many people is going to be, well,

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01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 4: where did the Eagles go wrong? And the Eagles failed

2167
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 4: and blah, blah blah blah blah, Like we focus on

2168
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 4: the negative of the loser instead of the positive of

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01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 4: the winner so often, and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't get it because of you know, let's

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01:49:01,240 --> 01:49:04,559
Speaker 2: go back to she's fatigue that everybody.

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01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 4: That's a societal problem. I think that happens all the

2173
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 4: way across the board. Like if if there's a anytime

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01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 4: there's a big moment, we want to fault the person

2175
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 4: that didn't take advantage of the big moment instead of

2176
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 4: crediting the person that does. In professional sports and college

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01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,880
Speaker 4: sports like not not as much in the Olympics, like

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01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:27,840
Speaker 4: things like that. Individual sports we're not as hard on them.

2179
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 4: But man, how often because like it it feels like

2180
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 4: negativity moves the needle. And you know, this is something

2181
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 4: I've I've talked about before. But let you know, to

2182
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 4: be honest, I know the people or knew the people

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01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,000
Speaker 4: that get up that every morning, they get their dailies,

2184
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 4: they get their numbers, They know exactly when people tune out,

2185
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 4: so they this is not by accident, like people tune

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01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 4: in longer for negative content. It's just if we come

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01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 4: into a show and we and we asked ourselves every

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Speaker 4: single day like, hey, we're not going to say a

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01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 4: single negative. We're not going to trash your everything. Today

2190
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 4: is going to be a build up for the next

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01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 4: four hours. We're only gonna focus on the positives of

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01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 4: the winners and not even mention the losers in the

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01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 4: process because.

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01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:09,839
Speaker 5: The loser's done.

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01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 4: We don't need to talk about the losers. Let's talk

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01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 4: about how great the winners are. I think we would

2197
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 4: struggle a to keep people engaged, and b we run

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01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 4: out of things to talk about.

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01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 5: Like society doesn't work it that way anymore.

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01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,799
Speaker 4: How often when when everybody gets together for a dinner party,

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01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 4: Let's be real, how often are people sitting together at

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01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 4: a game night and saying, man, I am so happy

2203
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 4: for Susie she got a promotion. But man if Susie's

2204
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 4: going through a divorce, everybody's gonna talk about that.

2205
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 5: All day long.

2206
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 4: Like that's we live in this drama, Like we want

2207
01:50:39,479 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 4: to sit here and talk about Ryan Reynolds and Blake

2208
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 4: Lively all day because it's drama, and that's just people

2209
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 4: want drama, and drama comes from negativity, and like it's

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01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 4: a weird part of this era of society that we

2211
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 4: don't want to sit down and build each other up.

2212
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 4: We don't. We don't want to high five and say

2213
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 4: good game, man, that was a hell of a win

2214
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 4: by you guys. We want to turn around instead. Even

2215
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 4: when we win, even the teams that win, will turn

2216
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 4: around and immediately when when Chiefs fans win, they're not

2217
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 4: gonna celebrate with each other if they win on social media,

2218
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 4: they're immediately gonna go to social media and they're gonna

2219
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 4: go at every person that they felt like doubted them,

2220
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 4: and they're gonna say, look at you, you bum You

2221
01:51:15,880 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 4: didn't think we'd be here. Like people crave negativity.

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Speaker 5: It's wild.

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01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:24,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's messed up, back, It's really when it's real,

2224
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 2: when you lay it out like that, it's completely messed up.

2225
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: That's that sucks. It's true, but it shouldn't be. Let's

2226
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 2: take quick t O will come right back. Fellas, hang

2227
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:43,000
Speaker 2: it right here at Fox Sports Radio. Fellas from the

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01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:48,880
Speaker 2: Tyraq dot com studios, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano, my man

2229
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 2: Nick on the text board says it's hard to tell

2230
01:51:54,360 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo fans, you guys are great. An AFC chance loses

2231
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:04,240
Speaker 2: verse and all the losses against Kansas City is a

2232
01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 2: great achievement. I understand the nuance, but as a fan,

2233
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 2: it's tough, so it's hard to say. And we're not

2234
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: celebrating the loss, but we're just yeah, I.

2235
01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 5: Feel that I gotta.

2236
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 4: I understand that, I truly do. Man, I get it,

2237
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 4: and I get nobody wants to hear, Hey, you're still

2238
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 4: really good when you're not winning Super Bowls because like,

2239
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 4: my god, I've got I have one VHS tape in

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01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 4: my entire life that I have in my house and

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01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 4: it's it's UNLV Duke one O three seventy three. I've

2242
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 4: got enough stuff in my like man cave basement from

2243
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 4: the Vegas Golden Knights winning a Stanley Cup championship to

2244
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 4: be embarrassed by it. Like, I get why we all

2245
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 4: want like and I can't even imagine if the Raiders

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01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl. I can't I would I would

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01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 4: have to take time off work. I don't think I

2248
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 4: could function for a couple of days. I don't know

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01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 4: how I would process that much emotion. I've waited so

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01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 4: long for it, So like get I get all of

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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,799
Speaker 4: these things, but man, like, if you can't find joy

2252
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 4: in the process, like you can hate the ending, but damn.

2253
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 4: Like when you win games week in and week out,

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01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 4: when you're constantly this good, Like if you can't find

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01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 4: joy in the process, I hate that for you because

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01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 4: it's not always.

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01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 5: Going to be this good.

2258
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 4: It's just not and this is it, this is it.

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01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 4: Don't you think if you went back and asked Bills

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01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 4: fans that watched four straight Super Bowl losses. As much

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01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 4: as that's heartbreaking, don't you think that in that moment

2262
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 4: you have to now you have to look back and say, yeah,

2263
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 4: but that team, man, that team was special and that

2264
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 4: team was incredible, and I was proud to watch that team,

2265
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 4: Like we have that historical I don't know guideline twenty

2266
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 4: years later, but what's the point, Like why wait twenty years?

2267
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 4: Like two things can be true. It sucks that you're

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01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:58,600
Speaker 4: not playing in the super Bowl, but also this is

2269
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 4: a really good football team and they've given you a

2270
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 4: lot of joy this year. Like I think both of

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01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 4: those things can be true at once.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a matter of timing. I think

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01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 2: we're better off. And you know, March telling people that's

2274
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 2: what Bills are, right, Like nobody wants to hear it

2275
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 2: when it's at fresh I mean I think that's Nicky's point,

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01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:24,880
Speaker 2: which I get, like, you know, you're not gonna the

2277
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 2: day after the game, You're not gonna law them, you know.

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01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 2: I don't.

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01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't think you kill them.

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01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: I think you're right and that you admire what the

2281
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs have done as those were who are you know,

2282
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 2: unbiased that are sit here and go all right, well,

2283
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 2: I don't. I watched the game. I love football, and

2284
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are just amazing, right because Chiefs just in

2285
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: those games, in those moments, they just never lose.

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01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you God's honest truth. I remember the

2287
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,680
Speaker 4: room I was standing in when the Raiders lost to

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01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 4: the Bengals in the playoffs a couple of years ago.

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01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:08,280
Speaker 4: And I remember the room I was standing in as

2290
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:11,960
Speaker 4: the game ended with just a terrible play from Derek Carr.

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01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 4: And I remember looking at one of my buddies and

2292
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 4: immediately say, man, what a fun season. And I know,

2293
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 4: like that's easy for me because I've gone through so

2294
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 4: many bad years. But the one thing I refused to

2295
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 4: do when the Raiders finally got back to the playoffs,

2296
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 4: you know, they had the game against the Texans, it

2297
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 4: was terrible, and then the game against the Bengals. There's

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01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 4: only two playoffs games I've seen. I haven't seen a

2299
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,320
Speaker 4: playoff win since it was a two thousand and two.

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01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 4: So you know, for me, I just stood there and

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01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I want to appreciate this because

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01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 4: I just what we forget when it starts to go

2303
01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 4: good is what it felt like when it was terrible.

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01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 5: And that just just that's just real.

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01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 4: Like that is it's if you are right now, if

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01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 4: you are a Patriots fan and then I'm living up

2307
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,640
Speaker 4: in Connecticut, you're a Patriots fan. God, it's it's a

2308
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 4: tough time right now. And the Chiefs are eventually in

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01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 4: theory someday they're gonna wake up and they're not gonna

2310
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 4: have my hit my homes and Andy Reid and they're

2311
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 4: gonna suddenly realize, oh yeah, this is what it felt

2312
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 4: like for a very long time. Like, man, you got

2313
01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 4: to appreciate the chapters you're in, even if they're not

2314
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:21,280
Speaker 4: championship like when you're championship caliber. That phrase existed for

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01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:23,120
Speaker 4: a reason until recently.

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01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because each each season is its own entity, right,

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01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 2: It's a journey.

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01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 3: Like, let's be real, you didn't have a journey this year.

2319
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:38,280
Speaker 2: One of your finite amount of football seasons, like you

2320
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 2: only live so long and you're sitting here irrelevant with

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01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 2: no journey.

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01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 4: I've been an eleven winning years in forty years. Eleven

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01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 4: winning season.

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01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 2: I mean think about that. I mean, so of course

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01:56:51,560 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna go that was a fun season when there's

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01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 2: any sort of run. Yeah, let's continue this fun conversation

2327
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 2: where the felt big out. We're coming up next right

2328
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: is it. She's just joining us. We're talking a lot

2344
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 2: about nuanceing and how we celebrate because we're looking at greatness.

2345
01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 2: Right it's the super Bowl, and we're trying to figure

2346
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 2: out how to quantify we have a dynasty with the Chiefs,

2347
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 2: and really how to quantify everything else.

2348
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 3: And the fact that the Bills lose.

2349
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 2: I mean obviously that if you're in Buffalo, you're disappointed.

2350
01:58:28,880 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 3: You've been through it.

2351
01:58:31,200 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 2: If there's ever a town that deserves the Super Bowl,

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01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,560
Speaker 2: I think it's Buffalo in Detroit and probably Minneapolis too.

2353
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 2: But that team is still a great team and it's

2354
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 2: still a team that should be celebrated. I look back again,

2355
01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 2: I said to State Finci. The Eagles didn't win their

2356
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:54,720
Speaker 2: first foot Bowl until the twenty February twenty eighteen Nick

2357
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 2: Foles right, go down in history legend Philly, Philly. Up

2358
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 2: until that point, the great est era of Eagles football

2359
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:06,760
Speaker 2: was the early two thousands with Andy Reid, and he

2360
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 2: had gone to four straight championship games, five and eight seasons,

2361
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 2: and they didn't win, but they got through a Super Bowl,

2362
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 2: and they gave us a journey. They gave us a

2363
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 2: season that was a journey that you got to go with.

2364
01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 2: You got to live through and get and be excited

2365
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 2: with and watch and make watch and have watch parties

2366
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 2: with your families and friends.

2367
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 3: That you love.

2368
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, consuming football is all about

2369
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 2: the journey and you know, sharing it with other people.

2370
01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 4: It's kind of wild when you say that, too, because

2371
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 4: when you have waited forever for a Super Bowl and

2372
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:49,600
Speaker 4: then you finally get one, that's just such an unforgettable moment.

2373
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 4: You know that you remember forever. Your family talks about forever.

2374
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 4: And it is funny that, you know, for Chiefs fans

2375
01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:00,680
Speaker 4: when they got their first one in the modern era here,

2376
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 4: for so many fans, it was this, oh my god, incredible.

2377
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:06,720
Speaker 4: I can't believe this, Like it was a beautiful thing.

2378
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 4: It really was like to watch even you know, obviously

2379
02:00:09,480 --> 02:00:11,480
Speaker 4: I'm not a Chiefs fan as a Raiders fan, but

2380
02:00:11,560 --> 02:00:14,040
Speaker 4: seeing my friends that are Chiefs fans, there was this

2381
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 4: high five moment of like, this is so cool for you.

2382
02:00:16,160 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 4: I'm really happy for you. Man, Go go celebrate your championship. Congratulations.

2383
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:22,680
Speaker 4: It's funny each one after that takes on a little

2384
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 4: less meaning to the fans, and it does start to

2385
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 4: break by break sort of build this wall that everybody

2386
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 4: roots against. And so for Bills fans, whenever they finally

2387
02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 4: break through and eventually, you know, in theory everybody will

2388
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:39,480
Speaker 4: get a super Bowl when they eventually break through, the

2389
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 4: joy is going to make all of the years of

2390
02:00:42,400 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 4: suffering worth it, there is no doubt about it. But

2391
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 4: right now, it just it feels. I know, to Bills fans,

2392
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,680
Speaker 4: you feel so lost in all of this. But man,

2393
02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:56,320
Speaker 4: if what if the journey doesn't Like I don't feel

2394
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,880
Speaker 4: like the Bills fans right now should feel like their

2395
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,680
Speaker 4: journey is the same as Titans fans.

2396
02:01:02,040 --> 02:01:05,000
Speaker 5: Right this season shouldn't reflect the same to them as

2397
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:05,800
Speaker 5: Titans fans.

2398
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 4: Like, even if it doesn't end in the super Bowl.

2399
02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 5: I think you made a really good point at the

2400
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:10,520
Speaker 5: end of the last segment.

2401
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 4: I stopped having meaningful football games as a Raiders fan.

2402
02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:18,680
Speaker 4: Week six. Week six, you knew it was over. Everything

2403
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 4: was done. Like yeah, like I woke up on Sundays

2404
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 4: and thought, okay, here we go. Yeah, Like, it just sucks.

2405
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,720
Speaker 4: It just it sucks. And then, like I've told you

2406
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 4: a million times, and I think people need to remember

2407
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 4: when your team stinks, it's not just Sunday. It's the

2408
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 4: fact that you don't want to turn the TV on

2409
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 4: Monday because you don't want to hear anybody make fun

2410
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 4: of it. And then Tuesday, you know, you've still got

2411
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 4: a little bit of lingering. So maybe by Wednesday you

2412
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 4: can actually listen to something sports related to know that

2413
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 4: you're not going to be mocked. You know, it's just

2414
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 4: it's just such a junkie feeling. You can't tell me

2415
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:56,320
Speaker 4: that Bills fans shouldn't look back at this year with

2416
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:59,240
Speaker 4: a different sense of how their year went like it's

2417
02:01:59,800 --> 02:02:03,640
Speaker 4: it's a disappointing ending, it's heartbreaking, yes, but it's still

2418
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 4: a season that gave you tremendous joy. With one of

2419
02:02:05,960 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 4: the best players in the world, a Hall of Fame

2420
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 4: level quarterback, playing year in and year out. You got

2421
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:13,400
Speaker 4: a chance. You always have it. Every season you were

2422
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 4: gonna have a chance. And that's that's a beautiful thing.

2423
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 4: It's a beautiful thing. You got to learn how to appreciate.

2424
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 4: You got to learn it.

2425
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 2: You do and and and trust me, that day will come.

2426
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 2: There will be a day when the Buffalo wins the

2427
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I'm praying that you guys will be uh

2428
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 2: you know, alive and that you guys can see it.

2429
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,520
Speaker 2: It will be an incredible feeling. It really will be.

2430
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 2: I still think about when the Eagles want it. That

2431
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:49,480
Speaker 2: night and wow, I mean we're all together and uh,

2432
02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 2: my family and friends and we all grew up and

2433
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:56,080
Speaker 2: it was a big deal. And we went to Broad

2434
02:02:56,080 --> 02:03:01,160
Speaker 2: Street and I drank you know, we drank tequila and beers,

2435
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 2: and you know, we walked until the sun rose and

2436
02:03:04,440 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 2: then I had to go. I went right to work

2437
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 2: to do the show and it was just an amazing

2438
02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:13,680
Speaker 2: night where the whole city was unified.

2439
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,400
Speaker 5: Did you sleep before you went to do the show?

2440
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:16,800
Speaker 7: No?

2441
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:20,680
Speaker 2: I went right from literally right from Broad Street, and

2442
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:25,120
Speaker 2: I hopped in an uber to go to do my show.

2443
02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 2: I was on at six, so I stayed out all

2444
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:31,360
Speaker 2: night and went right to the studio and hugged. I

2445
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 2: had the hug. I don't know, ten thousand people that night.

2446
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:40,920
Speaker 4: The game in Nashville where the Preds advanced to the

2447
02:03:40,920 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 4: Stanley Cup Final.

2448
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 5: I remember after that.

2449
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:46,920
Speaker 4: Game because I was working for the I was hosting

2450
02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:49,520
Speaker 4: the morning show on one or two five the game

2451
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 4: out there that we were the flagship for the Preds,

2452
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 4: so we had to go in and do the show.

2453
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:54,960
Speaker 4: The next morning, we did the same thing. We stayed

2454
02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:57,680
Speaker 4: out on Lower broad all night and then went to

2455
02:03:57,760 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 4: the studio and we just like we did the the

2456
02:04:00,440 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 4: laziest four hours of radio ever.

2457
02:04:02,120 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 5: But it was the best because.

2458
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 4: We literally just sat down and said, Okay, like call us,

2459
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:08,880
Speaker 4: tell us how you're feeling, Like, tell us how how

2460
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:10,240
Speaker 4: you'll remember this moment what it is.

2461
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 3: That's just the lazy Yeah, that's the lazy radio.

2462
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 2: That is sharing an incredible moment with the whole city,

2463
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:21,720
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful. I got news for you that is

2464
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:28,080
Speaker 2: such some of the most rewarding. People don't know my background.

2465
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:31,120
Speaker 2: I was a writer for a long time. I still

2466
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,560
Speaker 2: love to write. I write, you know, movies and TV,

2467
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 2: and you know, I've written three books. I love to write,

2468
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 2: so it's still my favorite job in the business. And

2469
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,680
Speaker 2: I used to go and cover big games. I used

2470
02:04:43,720 --> 02:04:48,879
Speaker 2: to write five thousand word profiles and stories and enterprise

2471
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:51,720
Speaker 2: pieces in the New York Post. I loved it every Sunday.

2472
02:04:52,840 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 2: But radio and local media has a warmth to it

2473
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:01,360
Speaker 2: that you don't find in the places right like that

2474
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:04,560
Speaker 2: you don't find certainly in print where you could share

2475
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 2: these moments with people, and there is a great warmth

2476
02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:16,080
Speaker 2: that like during those moments that shared. I mean, it's beautiful.

2477
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:21,200
Speaker 2: And I tell like Philadelphia that lives it and breathes it,

2478
02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:24,640
Speaker 2: it was I'm telling you, I did shots with people

2479
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 2: and I hugged. I can't tell you how many people

2480
02:05:28,720 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 2: that I hugged. I mean it, And it was one

2481
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,880
Speaker 2: of the greatest nights. I'll never forget. It was a

2482
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 2: beautiful evening. And I hope, I hope the guy that

2483
02:05:38,480 --> 02:05:41,360
Speaker 2: everybody gets to experience that. Like, not to sound corny,

2484
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 2: but I love for Buffalo to experience in Detroit, to

2485
02:05:44,880 --> 02:05:49,000
Speaker 2: experience in Minnesota, like the fan bases that really care,

2486
02:05:49,960 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 2: like I would love to hear, to see you a

2487
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 2: greater nation to have to get that like that, that

2488
02:05:56,520 --> 02:05:57,640
Speaker 2: would be a gift.

2489
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 4: I can't even imagine. And it's why sometimes I roll

2490
02:06:02,640 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 4: my eyes loudly, if you can assign a noise to

2491
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:10,200
Speaker 4: I rolling every time Cowboys fans sit there and say, well,

2492
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:12,720
Speaker 4: we haven't won a Super Bowl since the nineties and

2493
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and I'm like, okay, and you know,

2494
02:06:17,360 --> 02:06:20,200
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but there are a whole bunch of franchises

2495
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 4: and we don't sit here every single And.

2496
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 5: I know it's the Cowboys are a big brand, and

2497
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 5: it's Jerry Jones.

2498
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 4: I get all that, But the Cowboys are not more

2499
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:29,320
Speaker 4: deserving just because they're the Cowboys of being in a

2500
02:06:29,360 --> 02:06:32,840
Speaker 4: super Bowl. Then I don't know the Cleveland Browns, you know,

2501
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 4: than the Buffalo Bills, you know, than my beloved Raiders,

2502
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 4: Like there are plenty of franchises out there with incredible

2503
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 4: loyal fan bases that would kill to know what it

2504
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,560
Speaker 4: feels like to play in an AFC or NFC championship

2505
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:47,720
Speaker 4: game or have the opportunity to go to the super

2506
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 4: Bowl like this is. It is such a rarity, and

2507
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:55,080
Speaker 4: it's been dominated over the last you know, at this point,

2508
02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:59,160
Speaker 4: now what twenty plus years, two teams have essentially dominated

2509
02:06:59,160 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 4: the Lombardi.

2510
02:07:00,080 --> 02:07:01,280
Speaker 5: That's just the way it's gone.

2511
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 4: And so, you know, as a result, that leaves a

2512
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 4: bunch of suffering fan bases. I think it's funny for

2513
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 4: all the time that we spent I've spent talking about

2514
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 4: we've got to fix baseball.

2515
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 5: That's what everybody knows.

2516
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 4: Baseball sure as hell does a good job at least

2517
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,720
Speaker 4: find the different champions all the time, Like the dominance

2518
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,200
Speaker 4: in the NFL is just it changes so much of

2519
02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 4: that You're right, Like, there are a ton of people

2520
02:07:22,800 --> 02:07:26,560
Speaker 4: that will live their entire lives. Is die hard tattoo,

2521
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 4: having jersey whearing, you know, football love and fanatics at

2522
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 4: the highest possible level. They will live their entire lives

2523
02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:37,080
Speaker 4: and never see their team win a championship. It's it's

2524
02:07:37,120 --> 02:07:41,480
Speaker 4: wild you give so much as a fan because you're

2525
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 4: just connected to it. Like I can't control the fact

2526
02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 4: that my heart rate changes when the Raiders play. I

2527
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 4: wish it didn't because they stink, but it doesn't like it.

2528
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 4: And then nothing changes the fact that I'm jumping up

2529
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 4: and down to my house for a three win football team,

2530
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:55,920
Speaker 4: trying to figure out how to win at the end

2531
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,760
Speaker 4: of the season, like it nothing changes these things. So

2532
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 4: there's so many people like us that you know they're

2533
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 4: never gonna see a super Bowl.

2534
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 5: It's crazy.

2535
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:07,080
Speaker 4: And that's what I guess. That's why appreciation hits my

2536
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 4: my heart so much in these moments, because you don't

2537
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 4: know if you're gonna, like, you don't know if you're

2538
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 4: ever gonna see a super Bowl, and if you're never

2539
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 4: gonna see a super Bowl, and there's nothing you can

2540
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 4: do to change that. Man, you got to learn how

2541
02:08:18,560 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 4: to appreciate the wins, because if you don't appreciate the wins,

2542
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 4: and your only answer is if we don't win a

2543
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:27,320
Speaker 4: super Bowl, then this whole year was just junk or

2544
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 4: better than there's better than how some money here that

2545
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,760
Speaker 4: you may never enjoy a single season the rest of

2546
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:33,200
Speaker 4: your life.

2547
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 5: What's the point? I just you gotta find joy in

2548
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:36,839
Speaker 5: winning seasons.

2549
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:41,720
Speaker 2: You have to I journey I talk about all the time.

2550
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm such a believer in it. Like I look at

2551
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 2: the Eagles and they're really good and they're not going anywhere,

2552
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 2: Like their defense is young. With Howie Roseman has done

2553
02:08:56,000 --> 02:09:00,000
Speaker 2: is put together an incredible roster that's sustainable. I mean

2554
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:04,400
Speaker 2: he's achieved his goal, which is relevance, and it spans

2555
02:09:04,640 --> 02:09:10,400
Speaker 2: coordinators and even quarterbacks. Right, Carson Wentz was the franchise quarterback.

2556
02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 2: Nick Foles came in after he gets hurt and wins

2557
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Then Wentz blows up. Ironically, now with

2558
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Wentz blows up, blows up, and then Jalen

2559
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 2: comes in and there it's hurts, but it goes beyond that.

2560
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:30,560
Speaker 2: It's you know, several coordinators and coaches. Doug Peterson is fired,

2561
02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, here's Nick Sirianni. Nobody heard

2562
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 2: of him. He does well. He has two coordinators get poached,

2563
02:09:39,920 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 2: and now he's going to get a third coordinator poached

2564
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:47,560
Speaker 2: with Kellen Moore. It's it's pretty interesting how that happens.

2565
02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:50,520
Speaker 2: And I tell people all the time, enjoy this because

2566
02:09:50,880 --> 02:09:54,920
Speaker 2: one of the things that happens is and you can't

2567
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:59,480
Speaker 2: speak to this, right because you've never had the opportunity.

2568
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 2: So now, when the team becomes relevant, like the Eagles

2569
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:07,880
Speaker 2: so obviously the Chiefs and the Patriots were the two dynasties,

2570
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the fan base swells and like

2571
02:10:13,320 --> 02:10:18,320
Speaker 2: there's Eagle fans everywhere and it's awesome, right, It's like, wow,

2572
02:10:18,360 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 2: this is so cool that the Eagle thing or your team,

2573
02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:26,560
Speaker 2: whether it's Chiefs, Patriots or whatever it is, has spread

2574
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 2: and there's that many people, but most of them don't

2575
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 2: have the context that, Yo, you better enjoy this now

2576
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:38,720
Speaker 2: because it wasn't always like this. Like at some point

2577
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 2: the Raiders are going to go on a run, and

2578
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 2: I believe that because I believe in Brady help get

2579
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:47,120
Speaker 2: it right. And the Raiders will be relevant, and they'll

2580
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:49,920
Speaker 2: be they'll have a you know, five to six year

2581
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:52,680
Speaker 2: period where they're going to be in super Bowls and

2582
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 2: be relevant, and I hope and that's the case for you.

2583
02:10:56,400 --> 02:11:00,520
Speaker 2: You'll tell people, hey, listen, enjoy this because this was

2584
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:02,560
Speaker 2: never this wasn't always the norm.

2585
02:11:02,760 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, I look forward to bandwagoners like

2586
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,120
Speaker 4: that's a that's a glorious spot to be and when

2587
02:11:10,160 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 4: people are joining the bandwagon for for no good reason,

2588
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 4: and it's funny how that there's this tipping point for

2589
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:20,440
Speaker 4: all of it. I think what's interesting is that you

2590
02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 4: end up being Kansas City, for example, and you win

2591
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:28,320
Speaker 4: one and everybody's just it's endearing, and then you're back

2592
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:30,560
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, the bandwagon's big, getting bigger

2593
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,320
Speaker 4: and bigger and bigger, and then you're back again, and

2594
02:11:32,320 --> 02:11:35,080
Speaker 4: then before you know it, the bandwagon has exploded. But

2595
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden you get the you know,

2596
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 4: the the opposite effect of it, and it becomes you know,

2597
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:44,360
Speaker 4: eighties wrestling, where like Macho Man's a baby face and

2598
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:46,040
Speaker 4: then he's a heel and then he's a baby face.

2599
02:11:46,080 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 4: Like I think we're in the same spot for the Chiefs.

2600
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 4: They're you know, they're they're gonna have to go through

2601
02:11:50,280 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 4: some massive adversity before people start to decide they want

2602
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,440
Speaker 4: to root for them again. And I don't know where

2603
02:11:55,440 --> 02:11:58,120
Speaker 4: that comes. I'm like one of the few people in

2604
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,720
Speaker 4: the world looks at it now and says, hey, this

2605
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:03,040
Speaker 4: is win win this super Bowl, Like as somebody with

2606
02:12:03,120 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 4: no rooting interest in it, this is win win for

2607
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:08,080
Speaker 4: me because in my mind, one of the best players

2608
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 4: and easiest players to root for in the NFL, one

2609
02:12:10,760 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 4: of the players that we can all fall in love

2610
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,760
Speaker 4: with is Saquon Right, Like Saquon has done everything his

2611
02:12:15,960 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 4: entire career the.

2612
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:19,280
Speaker 5: Right way, in a way that makes you just your

2613
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 5: root for him.

2614
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 4: And by the way, I think he's absolutely electric to

2615
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:25,840
Speaker 4: watch it special and you think about the fat guys

2616
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:28,400
Speaker 4: up front and the defensive line guys, the talent they

2617
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:31,040
Speaker 4: have everywhere, Like it's easy for me in my mind

2618
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 4: to find a really cool story out of the Eagles.

2619
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:35,280
Speaker 4: I got no root in an interest against them. I

2620
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:38,400
Speaker 4: think it's a great it's a great story if they win. Conversely,

2621
02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 4: three straight, man, I mean I I can easily throw

2622
02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 4: my hands up and say, what were you supposed to

2623
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:49,280
Speaker 4: do like, all right, so three straight for what I

2624
02:12:49,320 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 4: think is I've told you repeatedly, and I think it's

2625
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:53,400
Speaker 4: going to go down in history. I think the best

2626
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,960
Speaker 4: coach of all time is standing on the sidelines of

2627
02:12:56,000 --> 02:12:57,760
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. It's not Belichick, It's going to be

2628
02:12:57,760 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 4: Andy Reid. I think Andy Reid ends up the best

2629
02:13:00,120 --> 02:13:02,520
Speaker 4: coach of all time. I think Patrick Mahomes ends up

2630
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:04,040
Speaker 4: and may already be the best.

2631
02:13:03,880 --> 02:13:04,880
Speaker 5: Quarterback of all time.

2632
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 4: And I think that Spags is the best defensive coordinator

2633
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:09,080
Speaker 4: in the NFL right now and.

2634
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 5: Maybe ends up being the best of all time.

2635
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 4: So like I'm looking at all this and saying, if

2636
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 4: I can see three straight championships from Goat, Goat, Goat

2637
02:13:17,440 --> 02:13:19,880
Speaker 4: Hall of when each of these gentlemen and they all

2638
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 4: three will be inducted in the Hall of Fame, we

2639
02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 4: will sit down and tell people, hey, no, no, no, no,

2640
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:28,840
Speaker 4: you gotta watch, like thirty years from now, it'll be Nope, that's.

2641
02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:30,800
Speaker 5: Not as good as reads Spags.

2642
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:33,600
Speaker 4: And Mahomes was like this is this is timeless, Like

2643
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,360
Speaker 4: this level of greatness is something that grandkids will hear about.

2644
02:13:37,400 --> 02:13:39,440
Speaker 4: So I think this is a win win super Bowl,

2645
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:41,080
Speaker 4: even though the whole world seems to think it's an

2646
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 4: unwatched I know.

2647
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to annoy people with it. I agree

2648
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:54,240
Speaker 2: with you, I think it's no. The problem is is

2649
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 2: that you know, I'm in the like I'm kind of

2650
02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:00,240
Speaker 2: in the middle of it right where it's your team,

2651
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:05,520
Speaker 2: your town, your team, and it's the Andy Reebowl Roman

2652
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 2: numeral too. I mean he's I think, dude, I think

2653
02:14:11,600 --> 02:14:17,120
Speaker 2: back like the real story, and it's a fascinating one

2654
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 2: that the nation. I'd love for the nation to be interested.

2655
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if they if it's interested in it.

2656
02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 2: But the amount of headaches that Andy Reid took in

2657
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 2: this town. Dude, he used to get.

2658
02:14:30,440 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 9: Destroyed, absolutely destroyed because remember the town was different back

2659
02:14:38,800 --> 02:14:41,080
Speaker 9: then because the town lost.

2660
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 3: I mean it was bad. The eagles were. They stunk.

2661
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:50,120
Speaker 2: So people had, like the generation before me, like that

2662
02:14:50,240 --> 02:14:52,040
Speaker 2: boomer think like they hate.

2663
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:54,600
Speaker 3: They were nasty, they were.

2664
02:14:55,400 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 2: Boom, you know, they wore horns, and they Troy Andy

2665
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:04,680
Speaker 2: woe who you're hiring some dude. They killed him about

2666
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 2: his weight, they killed him about everything, his press conferences.

2667
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 2: I mean they well, I had a buddy of mine

2668
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:20,320
Speaker 2: who I used to work with, who was older and

2669
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:24,160
Speaker 2: he just was. He was just like a nasty like

2670
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:28,640
Speaker 2: like an older, older dude who was just hard right

2671
02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:34,600
Speaker 2: like he was. He was nasty man. And he was like, look,

2672
02:15:34,640 --> 02:15:37,560
Speaker 2: spurryer is going to kill him. And this guy's going

2673
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:40,320
Speaker 2: to kill him. And he used to ride him and

2674
02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:44,680
Speaker 2: bust his stones every day. And I'm thinking to myself,

2675
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:48,200
Speaker 2: the dudes just wanned go to the championship Game's this,

2676
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:50,520
Speaker 2: he's that, and he's going to turn out to be

2677
02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:52,440
Speaker 2: the best coach in the history of the NFL.

2678
02:15:52,640 --> 02:15:55,080
Speaker 3: And I freaking love it because he deserves it.

2679
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:58,840
Speaker 4: That's yeah, it's wild. You're right, He's gonna end up

2680
02:15:59,080 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 4: being the best ever. And supposedly he couldn't get over

2681
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:04,400
Speaker 4: the hop Like it's just it's just a case study

2682
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,360
Speaker 4: for everybody. Supposedly he couldn't get over the hop.

2683
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think back to when, I mean he

2684
02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:13,560
Speaker 2: suffered a lot of tragedy of his kids. Yep, I

2685
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:17,760
Speaker 2: mean it was. I mean I wrote a story with him.

2686
02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:22,240
Speaker 2: I sent it to you on Father's Day. It was

2687
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:24,440
Speaker 2: about a father. It was his father's days. I wrote

2688
02:16:24,440 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 2: this whole story about how it was a year after

2689
02:16:27,560 --> 02:16:30,240
Speaker 2: his son had died and he had taken a leave

2690
02:16:30,320 --> 02:16:34,680
Speaker 2: of apps since he'd done some certain it moved some

2691
02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:38,360
Speaker 2: of his duties. It was tough man. He went through.

2692
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:40,959
Speaker 2: He went through a lot in Philadelphia. And I know

2693
02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:44,039
Speaker 2: that Jeffrey Lory never never wanted to fire him, like

2694
02:16:44,160 --> 02:16:48,199
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Laurie never wanted to move on from him. Jeffrey

2695
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 2: Lewie's instincts were right that he wasn't. It just had expired.

2696
02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:57,440
Speaker 2: It's the only way I could put it. And but

2697
02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:03,640
Speaker 2: his his his finger prints are all over the success now,

2698
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:07,880
Speaker 2: I mean to the point where you know he basically,

2699
02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:12,439
Speaker 2: you know, brought Howie Roseman along. I mean, he he,

2700
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 2: he taught him. It's a pretty it's great story fits

2701
02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:19,760
Speaker 2: he great story where the fellas as we hang out,

2702
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,800
Speaker 2: the brain is going to join us, maybe give us

2703
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:27,840
Speaker 2: a little college basketball introduction, right and they see if

2704
02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:30,640
Speaker 2: he's got that, we'll dive into that stuff with the Brain.

2705
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:34,920
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Fellas Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano right here,

2706
02:17:35,000 --> 02:17:36,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

2707
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:39,280
Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2708
02:17:39,320 --> 02:17:42,680
Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2709
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:46,920
Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2710
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:47,680
Speaker 7: listen live.

2711
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:55,080
Speaker 2: Fellas Jason Fitz Anthony Gargana from the ti rack dot

2712
02:17:55,080 --> 02:18:01,640
Speaker 2: Com studios oh Man special shout out to Yo to

2713
02:18:01,800 --> 02:18:06,240
Speaker 2: our man Lou in Cincinnati, because he said this conversation

2714
02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 2: about you know, living through it, how tough it is.

2715
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:15,600
Speaker 2: He said, welcome to my world, my life as a

2716
02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:24,640
Speaker 2: sixty three year old Bengals fan. Yep, right. Yet, we're

2717
02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:26,160
Speaker 2: gonna do the show because I think we did it

2718
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:30,400
Speaker 2: last year once where we celebrate the fan bases. So

2719
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:32,480
Speaker 2: I want to. I want to do that. I want

2720
02:18:32,480 --> 02:18:36,600
Speaker 2: to after the season, we'll take a show and each

2721
02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:38,800
Speaker 2: show will be themed for a different fan base that

2722
02:18:38,840 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 2: we celebrate.

2723
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:42,720
Speaker 5: I love that. That's a great idea.

2724
02:18:42,800 --> 02:18:44,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's do it.

2725
02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:45,440
Speaker 3: But join us now.

2726
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:49,200
Speaker 2: He is incredible, all right when it comes to the

2727
02:18:49,240 --> 02:18:53,720
Speaker 2: world of sports. From a betting standpoint, he is our man,

2728
02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:57,400
Speaker 2: the brain. Brad Feinberg, Good morning, Brain.

2729
02:18:58,320 --> 02:19:00,360
Speaker 8: Good morning at morning.

2730
02:19:01,120 --> 02:19:04,320
Speaker 2: We're good. We're just you know, kind of wandering through

2731
02:19:04,360 --> 02:19:05,920
Speaker 2: the wilderness of no football.

2732
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 8: Anthony again, I we always, we have this talk every year,

2733
02:19:12,800 --> 02:19:14,240
Speaker 8: and we're at that time of the year again. The

2734
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:17,720
Speaker 8: only good news is me and you being Philly guys. Uh,

2735
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:21,040
Speaker 8: great to see the Eagles made it. But on the

2736
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:23,240
Speaker 8: same side, You're like, gosh, man, then you know what

2737
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:28,080
Speaker 8: happens after this. It's just to me football is irreplaceable, uh.

2738
02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:33,080
Speaker 2: Worse right because tomorrow's because Tomorrow's Sunday, right, and we're

2739
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:35,320
Speaker 2: used to, you know, the last week of championship games,

2740
02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:38,760
Speaker 2: the whole thing, and tomorrow there's no sports since you

2741
02:19:38,800 --> 02:19:42,359
Speaker 2: know we're talking about it earlier. There's no college good college,

2742
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:44,879
Speaker 2: there's no NBA, there's nothing tomorrow.

2743
02:19:45,040 --> 02:19:47,920
Speaker 8: It's Anthony, You're right, and I know Anthony me. You've

2744
02:19:47,920 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 8: also talked about this in general, the state of Look,

2745
02:19:51,440 --> 02:19:53,320
Speaker 8: and I'm a cute you always look. I do my

2746
02:19:53,360 --> 02:19:55,760
Speaker 8: sports betting, but at the end of the day, I

2747
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:59,680
Speaker 8: am a person who grew up following sports, loving sports,

2748
02:19:59,800 --> 02:20:02,240
Speaker 8: wh watching sports twenty four to seven, still do, but

2749
02:20:02,920 --> 02:20:05,400
Speaker 8: you know, talking about what's going to happen right in

2750
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:08,879
Speaker 8: the NBA. You're focused on the NBA. My just forgetting

2751
02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:12,039
Speaker 8: the gambling. I still gamble every single day on it religiously,

2752
02:20:12,080 --> 02:20:15,320
Speaker 8: but this is an enjoyment factor. Watching the NBA for

2753
02:20:15,480 --> 02:20:18,280
Speaker 8: me has gone from let's suppose my level was a

2754
02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:22,200
Speaker 8: ten and interest. It has gone down exponentially with and

2755
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:24,640
Speaker 8: it's all been self inflicted. Rules in my opinion with

2756
02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:27,959
Speaker 8: how they've decided to run the league or whatnot. And

2757
02:20:28,959 --> 02:20:30,640
Speaker 8: I'm just you know, it's like, gosh, that's what I

2758
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:32,960
Speaker 8: have been looking for, is the NBA. I'll definitely probably

2759
02:20:32,959 --> 02:20:35,199
Speaker 8: be dubbing more into college. At least I still enjoyed,

2760
02:20:35,840 --> 02:20:37,520
Speaker 8: enjoy that the NBA for me, guys.

2761
02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:42,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know, we had that conversation earlier too.

2762
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that Tomorrow is like the second

2763
02:20:46,680 --> 02:20:50,560
Speaker 4: saddest Sunday of the year. The saddest is a Sunday

2764
02:20:50,600 --> 02:20:51,480
Speaker 4: after the super Bowl.

2765
02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:52,440
Speaker 5: But because at least.

2766
02:20:52,280 --> 02:20:54,720
Speaker 4: Tomorrow will be like, hey, like tomorrow is this Like

2767
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:56,880
Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm flying to New Orleans tomow. I'm busy,

2768
02:20:57,000 --> 02:20:59,440
Speaker 4: like I got something occupying my time, just to just

2769
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:01,119
Speaker 4: to try and to track me from the fact that

2770
02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:02,960
Speaker 4: you know, there's there's no actual football.

2771
02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:06,200
Speaker 8: I listen, I get it, I get it, I get it.

2772
02:21:06,720 --> 02:21:07,640
Speaker 8: Who's picking in the game.

2773
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:12,760
Speaker 4: Sorry, guys, Look, I've heard that we were carbon copies

2774
02:21:12,800 --> 02:21:14,240
Speaker 4: of each other. This is the one thing that I

2775
02:21:14,320 --> 02:21:17,720
Speaker 4: keep saying is that you know, seven times in the

2776
02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 4: playoffs or Super Bowl, Mahomes has had the ball in

2777
02:21:19,720 --> 02:21:21,640
Speaker 4: his hands with three minutes or less needing a score

2778
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:24,680
Speaker 4: to tire win, and he's gotten that score all seven times.

2779
02:21:24,680 --> 02:21:25,759
Speaker 5: That's unprecedented.

2780
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:29,160
Speaker 4: They've won what seventeen straight one score games, twelve to

2781
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:31,000
Speaker 4: zero this year. The only way you beat him is

2782
02:21:31,040 --> 02:21:33,040
Speaker 4: you blow him out. And nobody blows out the Chiefs.

2783
02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,879
Speaker 4: So even though I think the Eagles are better, doesn't matter.

2784
02:21:35,920 --> 02:21:37,520
Speaker 4: Now I'm taking the Chiefs.

2785
02:21:38,200 --> 02:21:40,800
Speaker 8: It reminds me when it's like it's the chief When

2786
02:21:40,840 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 8: you play the Chief, you get twenty in blackshack and

2787
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:45,039
Speaker 8: the dealer just going to pull twenty one. You have

2788
02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:45,879
Speaker 8: a house's going to happen.

2789
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:47,000
Speaker 5: Yep.

2790
02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:52,039
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like yeah, I mean they just they do it.

2791
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,280
Speaker 8: I mean that's what they do. That's what they do.

2792
02:21:54,320 --> 02:22:02,600
Speaker 10: You wine the Eagle offensive line, Connor the defense, it's

2793
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:06,039
Speaker 10: the antidote to the to the dealer.

2794
02:22:08,720 --> 02:22:09,560
Speaker 3: Is the antidote.

2795
02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:13,120
Speaker 8: I think Eagles definitely have the better team on paper,

2796
02:22:13,160 --> 02:22:17,520
Speaker 8: but again there's something it's just there. I got very

2797
02:22:17,720 --> 02:22:19,920
Speaker 8: great to me when I watched the Chiefs team. I

2798
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:22,080
Speaker 8: think every time I watched him, like god, they're just

2799
02:22:22,120 --> 02:22:25,119
Speaker 8: not even good forgetting super Bowl but it's not even good.

2800
02:22:25,320 --> 02:22:27,680
Speaker 8: And then they just they just they just I don't

2801
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:28,199
Speaker 8: I don't.

2802
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,879
Speaker 2: Know how and they're great and there and then and

2803
02:22:30,920 --> 02:22:33,800
Speaker 2: Ali do it. You guys are right, like again they

2804
02:22:33,879 --> 02:22:37,640
Speaker 2: win games. They do and you'll have something in the

2805
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:40,080
Speaker 2: game plan that he wasn't there.

2806
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:41,199
Speaker 3: It was not on tape.

2807
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:46,680
Speaker 2: He's a brilliant something they got luck.

2808
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:49,040
Speaker 8: You know, every game, but something seems to happen luckwise

2809
02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:51,680
Speaker 8: that you're just like, how did this happen? And it

2810
02:22:51,720 --> 02:22:52,800
Speaker 8: happens every single game, and.

2811
02:22:52,760 --> 02:22:54,920
Speaker 3: You're just like, you do make your life. We were great,

2812
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 3: you make your luck.

2813
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:56,680
Speaker 2: I I do.

2814
02:22:57,600 --> 02:22:59,720
Speaker 8: That's definitely true. I agree with that part. I agree

2815
02:22:59,720 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 8: with that top of my friends. We will, we will listen,

2816
02:23:05,200 --> 02:23:07,320
Speaker 8: we will, we will see. They certainly have the better

2817
02:23:07,360 --> 02:23:09,920
Speaker 8: team on paper. Uh will they get their book if

2818
02:23:09,959 --> 02:23:12,240
Speaker 8: Jale Hurts can play like you did, guys, like you

2819
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:14,280
Speaker 8: did two weeks ago, which I thought was the best

2820
02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:17,760
Speaker 8: game I've seen Joel Hurts play conservatively this year, I don't.

2821
02:23:17,800 --> 02:23:20,120
Speaker 8: I probably have to go back, probably left maybe since

2822
02:23:20,280 --> 02:23:22,160
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl from two years ago. I think it

2823
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 8: was the best game I've seen him play. He plays

2824
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:27,000
Speaker 8: like that, I agree, thought off he should actually clearly win.

2825
02:23:27,080 --> 02:23:30,240
Speaker 8: But I can't say I didn't get that as a guarantee.

2826
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:34,720
Speaker 2: All right, So let's look at today and can you

2827
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:37,279
Speaker 2: give us a college basketball primer?

2828
02:23:37,879 --> 02:23:40,959
Speaker 3: All right, it's a lot of great games.

2829
02:23:41,240 --> 02:23:42,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, big, big, big line up.

2830
02:23:45,600 --> 02:23:47,600
Speaker 8: Excuse me, Yeah, I got a couple of games in

2831
02:23:47,640 --> 02:23:50,320
Speaker 8: college I like us. First, Anthony that I mentioned this

2832
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:54,240
Speaker 8: to you a few days ago, park from underbraty college

2833
02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:57,480
Speaker 8: teams in basketball, and I told you I thought Florida

2834
02:23:57,879 --> 02:23:59,440
Speaker 8: was a team that in my eye had them ranked.

2835
02:23:59,440 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 8: I think in my power ratings, Florida to me is

2836
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:05,960
Speaker 8: a team that I think is like an underrated team

2837
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:09,879
Speaker 8: that is not being respected because they weren't maybe expected

2838
02:24:09,920 --> 02:24:11,880
Speaker 8: to be And I'm the team this year, but I

2839
02:24:11,920 --> 02:24:13,920
Speaker 8: think they're every bit as good as Tennessee. I actually

2840
02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:17,200
Speaker 8: have them ranked a head of Tennessee, and you could

2841
02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:19,880
Speaker 8: take five and a half points in this game right now.

2842
02:24:20,959 --> 02:24:24,200
Speaker 8: But Tennessee to me, started off with seventeen and oh

2843
02:24:24,320 --> 02:24:26,879
Speaker 8: or fifteen or sixteen mil I think now they're seventeen

2844
02:24:26,920 --> 02:24:29,560
Speaker 8: and four. I don't want to call them a big protograph,

2845
02:24:29,560 --> 02:24:32,560
Speaker 8: but I definitely think they're overrated. And obviously I hate

2846
02:24:32,600 --> 02:24:35,040
Speaker 8: taking road teams in college because I do think there

2847
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:38,439
Speaker 8: is a legitimate advantage to home court in college basketball

2848
02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:41,720
Speaker 8: for many reasons. But again I thought this line should

2849
02:24:41,720 --> 02:24:44,120
Speaker 8: have come in closer to two and a half. So, actually,

2850
02:24:44,120 --> 02:24:46,480
Speaker 8: in Florida is the better team. I did play Florida

2851
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:49,240
Speaker 8: getting five and a half, and I'm gonna stick in

2852
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:52,960
Speaker 8: the FDC and I'm going against my favorite team. I

2853
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:55,600
Speaker 8: love Auburn this year. I think they're the best belief,

2854
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:58,720
Speaker 8: but I think this line is too high. You could

2855
02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:02,120
Speaker 8: take six and a half with ole Miss. Mississippi to

2856
02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:06,520
Speaker 8: me is I haven't been ranked around nineteen in my ratings.

2857
02:25:06,879 --> 02:25:10,200
Speaker 8: They're at home. I think they can keep this game close.

2858
02:25:10,520 --> 02:25:14,280
Speaker 8: I really really do. Mississippi has played really well this year,

2859
02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:19,480
Speaker 8: and they get at home, and they've actually played great games,

2860
02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:22,600
Speaker 8: and they played very competitively. In those teams they one

2861
02:25:22,720 --> 02:25:26,200
Speaker 8: had Alabama, which to me is another elite team. I

2862
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:28,040
Speaker 8: think ole Miss. Again, I thought this line has been

2863
02:25:28,040 --> 02:25:31,320
Speaker 8: closer to four. You want to give me six and

2864
02:25:31,360 --> 02:25:32,720
Speaker 8: a half for the team, I think they win the

2865
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:35,040
Speaker 8: game outright. I think ole Miss can win this game

2866
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:37,520
Speaker 8: out right. Guys, I think that line six and a

2867
02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:40,240
Speaker 8: half too high. Even if you take six, which is

2868
02:25:40,600 --> 02:25:42,440
Speaker 8: widely available. I like that as well too.

2869
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:45,560
Speaker 5: What do you make a Yukon this year.

2870
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:48,039
Speaker 4: Like we talked about teams that you win this year,

2871
02:25:48,040 --> 02:25:49,600
Speaker 4: they find a way to lose like that. Where are

2872
02:25:49,600 --> 02:25:50,480
Speaker 4: we supposed to be on them?

2873
02:25:51,240 --> 02:25:55,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, this is finally the year where Hurley doesn't

2874
02:25:55,720 --> 02:25:58,879
Speaker 8: have the goods. Okay, great coach, but he doesn't have

2875
02:25:58,879 --> 02:26:01,680
Speaker 8: the goods. So you know they're they're Look, they're a

2876
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:04,960
Speaker 8: solid team. There are a good team. They're an Incuba

2877
02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 8: tournament team. My guess is probably win one game in

2878
02:26:08,160 --> 02:26:10,760
Speaker 8: the tournament, maybe get to switch the team, but probably not.

2879
02:26:11,879 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 8: Marquette's been the best team in the Big East this year,

2880
02:26:15,600 --> 02:26:17,200
Speaker 8: and Marquette is laying the big number of the lane

2881
02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:19,480
Speaker 8: either six and a half to seven, depending where you

2882
02:26:19,520 --> 02:26:22,400
Speaker 8: shop it. I think that's the right number in that

2883
02:26:22,520 --> 02:26:25,800
Speaker 8: picker game. Yukon to me, again, great coach, but they

2884
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:28,640
Speaker 8: just don't have the firepower they've had in the pass.

2885
02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:32,280
Speaker 8: So I do not the Yukon as the contender this

2886
02:26:32,360 --> 02:26:34,480
Speaker 8: year in college basketball. I think they'll win it most

2887
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:36,879
Speaker 8: two games. Probably only want to go by out of Stancer.

2888
02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:42,720
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, anybody, it's funny. You like it's funny? You

2889
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:45,320
Speaker 2: like Florida, Man, that's that's gonna be. That's a great game.

2890
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:46,840
Speaker 3: Do you lay it?

2891
02:26:47,320 --> 02:26:49,600
Speaker 2: Do you lay with Duke? I mean, obviously Caroline is

2892
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:51,640
Speaker 2: not good. Yeah, lot of points.

2893
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:53,520
Speaker 8: It is a lot of points, I think right now,

2894
02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:55,120
Speaker 8: let me I think it's laying last I chick. It

2895
02:26:55,160 --> 02:26:58,160
Speaker 8: was thirteen and a half. Thirteen thirteen and a half

2896
02:26:58,240 --> 02:27:00,360
Speaker 8: and the only side I would be on belief or not.

2897
02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:02,560
Speaker 8: I hate to say this in a rivalry game. I

2898
02:27:02,600 --> 02:27:04,879
Speaker 8: hate to say an a rivalry game. And North Toronto

2899
02:27:04,959 --> 02:27:07,520
Speaker 8: was a team I'd probably lowered to my power ratings,

2900
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 8: maybe more than any other team from where I were

2901
02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:12,039
Speaker 8: before the year. I had them ranked at the top

2902
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:15,000
Speaker 8: ten team. They've been just they've just been bad. I mean,

2903
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:18,440
Speaker 8: I always say again in life, sports, betting and your defining,

2904
02:27:18,480 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 8: you choose to be consistent, you choose you're right fighting

2905
02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:22,600
Speaker 8: the fact. Yeah, I thought they were going to be

2906
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:25,520
Speaker 8: good this year, but they just haven't been, even though

2907
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:27,760
Speaker 8: they basically to turn most of their players and they

2908
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:30,200
Speaker 8: actually added a couple of players from the Portal. But

2909
02:27:30,240 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 8: it just has not worked out for this North Carolina

2910
02:27:32,360 --> 02:27:35,680
Speaker 8: team for whatever reason, they've just been They've been poor.

2911
02:27:36,080 --> 02:27:40,160
Speaker 8: They really have been poor. Duke is a legitimate top

2912
02:27:40,200 --> 02:27:43,680
Speaker 8: five team. To me, North Toronto just keeps losing and

2913
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:47,520
Speaker 8: losing and losing these games, and I just look, it's

2914
02:27:47,520 --> 02:27:50,000
Speaker 8: a huge number. It's a rivalry game. I'm not going

2915
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:52,280
Speaker 8: to do it. But actually my power ratings believe it

2916
02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:55,640
Speaker 8: or not, made this line closer to sixteen. But I'm

2917
02:27:55,640 --> 02:27:58,560
Speaker 8: not I just because of the fact it's always a close.

2918
02:27:58,640 --> 02:27:58,840
Speaker 5: Look.

2919
02:27:58,879 --> 02:28:00,720
Speaker 8: I love goes back to that Michigan Ohio State team.

2920
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:04,560
Speaker 8: Ohio States should have killed Michigan, but rivalry Michigan wins

2921
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:07,640
Speaker 8: the game out right. I just can't do it just

2922
02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:10,560
Speaker 8: because of the rivalry factor. But I from a numbers perpective,

2923
02:28:10,600 --> 02:28:12,720
Speaker 8: actually think it's the late thirteen attection a little bit

2924
02:28:12,800 --> 02:28:13,440
Speaker 8: like believe it or not.

2925
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:15,960
Speaker 5: You've talked about kind of where you have things ranked.

2926
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:20,400
Speaker 4: The SEC has basically everybody ranked thirteen sixteen teams projected

2927
02:28:20,400 --> 02:28:23,160
Speaker 4: to make the tournament right now. Is there anybody that

2928
02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:25,080
Speaker 4: stands out to you in the SEC that you really

2929
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:25,760
Speaker 4: don't believe in?

2930
02:28:25,879 --> 02:28:29,119
Speaker 8: Well, I mean in terms of like who the good

2931
02:28:29,240 --> 02:28:31,160
Speaker 8: the good teams are. I mean, I know I coach

2932
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:34,320
Speaker 8: Tennant Tennessee would be the team to make Tennessee. I

2933
02:28:34,320 --> 02:28:36,640
Speaker 8: think Alburn's legit. I think Alburn's the best team in

2934
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:40,080
Speaker 8: college basketball this year. But when I look at and

2935
02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:43,160
Speaker 8: I think Alabama is legit A and M I think

2936
02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:45,640
Speaker 8: is a solid team. Kentucky I think it is a

2937
02:28:45,640 --> 02:28:49,119
Speaker 8: solid team. Ole Miss I think is a solid team.

2938
02:28:49,640 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 8: The team that I just don't quite believe in is Tennessee.

2939
02:28:54,320 --> 02:28:56,800
Speaker 8: And again the head coach, nothing against him, but man,

2940
02:28:57,320 --> 02:28:59,600
Speaker 8: it's just kind of we see like certain coaches in

2941
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,640
Speaker 8: bigs always find a way things just go against them,

2942
02:29:02,640 --> 02:29:04,680
Speaker 8: and me Rick Barnes is one of those guys where

2943
02:29:05,120 --> 02:29:08,040
Speaker 8: until he ever does something in a big spot, which

2944
02:29:08,040 --> 02:29:11,320
Speaker 8: has never happened, I'll just choose to believe that Tennessee

2945
02:29:11,680 --> 02:29:13,480
Speaker 8: for whatever reason, is not going to get it done.

2946
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:16,080
Speaker 8: And I just don't think they have enough firepower offensively.

2947
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:18,800
Speaker 8: I would say that would be the team. And then looked.

2948
02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:21,360
Speaker 8: Then you have lower teams like Missouri's had a good year,

2949
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:23,960
Speaker 8: the City States had a good year. Those are other

2950
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:30,039
Speaker 8: SEC teams that are good. Texas is solid, George is solid.

2951
02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:31,920
Speaker 8: But I don't think any of those seems are necessary.

2952
02:29:32,120 --> 02:29:37,959
Speaker 8: Nderbilt when my stung Goes actually had a really nice year, Wells.

2953
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Real Quick was up against it, Brad h I just bail.

2954
02:29:40,120 --> 02:29:43,280
Speaker 2: I like Baylor today over Kansas, And then what do

2955
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:44,640
Speaker 2: you think about the Calipari.

2956
02:29:45,959 --> 02:29:47,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I would be I would definitely be on

2957
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:49,520
Speaker 8: the Baylor side. They're laying two and a half.

2958
02:29:49,879 --> 02:29:50,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

2959
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:53,960
Speaker 8: It has just been a poor year for America in Kansas,

2960
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:57,600
Speaker 8: I thought would be better. Definitely definitely lean towards the

2961
02:29:58,200 --> 02:30:00,720
Speaker 8: towards the Bailer side. But again I was hoping I'd

2962
02:30:00,720 --> 02:30:02,800
Speaker 8: be getting closer to pick them at the late two

2963
02:30:02,800 --> 02:30:05,600
Speaker 8: and a half points. The Calipari ball look the lines

2964
02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:10,160
Speaker 8: right now, fitting between ten and a half and eleven

2965
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:12,680
Speaker 8: and a half in that depending on where you shop

2966
02:30:12,720 --> 02:30:15,840
Speaker 8: it look to me. Look, I actually like Kentucky as

2967
02:30:15,840 --> 02:30:19,680
Speaker 8: a team. Actually Kentucky is really really fold but again

2968
02:30:19,720 --> 02:30:25,080
Speaker 8: the Lion, the lion is expensive. That being said, I

2969
02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:27,960
Speaker 8: mean towards Kentucky. I think Kentucky. I actually like the

2970
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:29,800
Speaker 8: way they're playing. I like the way they looked against

2971
02:30:29,760 --> 02:30:32,040
Speaker 8: the last game. I would lean there, lay in the

2972
02:30:32,080 --> 02:30:33,640
Speaker 8: ten and a half I'll get I'd be up against

2973
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:36,080
Speaker 8: it real quick, some props, real guys, some real quick

2974
02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:39,800
Speaker 8: tenggoon rockets over four and amp fists actually five and

2975
02:30:39,840 --> 02:30:42,720
Speaker 8: a half, fox Kings over four and Halfphysis thirty three

2976
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:44,959
Speaker 8: and eleven year to date, sixteen and fours left twenty,

2977
02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:47,320
Speaker 8: Monk Kings of five and a fist nine and one

2978
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:49,640
Speaker 8: is last ten and sixteen and fours left twenty. Those

2979
02:30:49,640 --> 02:30:50,960
Speaker 8: are three props I like very much.

2980
02:30:51,360 --> 02:30:54,560
Speaker 2: Also, great stop brain as always. Next week we go.

2981
02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:57,839
Speaker 3: To all the Yeah, I got all the props.

2982
02:30:57,440 --> 02:31:00,640
Speaker 2: So we'll dive all into that one. Thanks buddy, appreciate

2983
02:31:01,400 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 2: the brain. We'll come back, by the way, shout sight.

2984
02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:07,560
Speaker 2: Chuck headed to the game that night at rop to

2985
02:31:08,080 --> 02:31:11,320
Speaker 2: boo on Calup to boo Calipari roote on.

2986
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:15,080
Speaker 3: The Cats will take quick t come right back.

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02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:19,080
Speaker 2: Wrapping up fellas hanging out right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2988
02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:22,720
Speaker 4: Song gets heavier now when it's the almost the end

2989
02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:23,959
Speaker 4: of football season, right.

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02:31:23,920 --> 02:31:31,119
Speaker 2: I know, I was thinking the same thing. Man, I'm

2991
02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:33,920
Speaker 2: gonna cry even if the Eagles win. I'll cry happy tears,

2992
02:31:33,920 --> 02:31:36,800
Speaker 2: and I'll cry sad tears and they when the football

2993
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:42,280
Speaker 2: goes away. Yes, yes, Jason Fitz, Anthony Gargano fellas every

2994
02:31:42,320 --> 02:31:45,000
Speaker 2: week right here on Fox Sports Radio. I want to

2995
02:31:45,040 --> 02:31:50,760
Speaker 2: thank our five production team. We love them, Brianna who

2996
02:31:50,840 --> 02:31:55,360
Speaker 2: is terrific, and of course mighty Mark. So thanks guys,

2997
02:31:56,080 --> 02:31:59,800
Speaker 2: we appreciate it. It's all tap man, what do you

2998
02:31:59,840 --> 02:32:02,400
Speaker 2: got like today? I know you're leaving tomorrow.

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02:32:03,720 --> 02:32:06,320
Speaker 4: Man, I'm just like today's just sort of a get

3000
02:32:06,320 --> 02:32:08,360
Speaker 4: ready for tomorrow, Like I feel like I need to

3001
02:32:08,400 --> 02:32:11,000
Speaker 4: rest my way up, you know, and get ready for

3002
02:32:11,560 --> 02:32:13,800
Speaker 4: the absolute chaos known as New Orleans.

3003
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:15,039
Speaker 5: So you know, and.

3004
02:32:15,320 --> 02:32:18,280
Speaker 4: You'll be there too, Like we're gonna be We're gonna

3005
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:19,920
Speaker 4: both be in the city all week.

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02:32:20,000 --> 02:32:22,400
Speaker 5: It's we're gonna do some damage. The fellow is gonna

3007
02:32:22,400 --> 02:32:22,720
Speaker 5: take over.

3008
02:32:23,320 --> 02:32:26,520
Speaker 2: I will I will call, I will text you. I'm

3009
02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:30,720
Speaker 2: waiting for my plans, so I will text you and

3010
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:35,040
Speaker 2: give you every, give you everything when uh, when your show.

3011
02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:36,480
Speaker 2: You'll start your shows on Monday.

3012
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:40,920
Speaker 4: So Monday, I'm doing just interviews for other people. So

3013
02:32:40,959 --> 02:32:43,400
Speaker 4: I'm just hopping along and doing some promotion for Yahoo.

3014
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,280
Speaker 4: I don't actually, I don't have to work as hard

3015
02:32:45,320 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 4: this year as I did last year. I do some

3016
02:32:47,800 --> 02:32:51,560
Speaker 4: interviews Monday, some interviews Tuesday, but then you know, just

3017
02:32:52,000 --> 02:32:55,080
Speaker 4: most of my tapings Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, pretty easy, and

3018
02:32:55,120 --> 02:32:57,760
Speaker 4: then I leave Friday afternoon. The little known fact for

3019
02:32:57,760 --> 02:33:00,720
Speaker 4: a lot of people, the way they do the hotels.

3020
02:33:00,840 --> 02:33:04,000
Speaker 4: If you want a hotel for Sunday night, you have

3021
02:33:04,040 --> 02:33:06,720
Speaker 4: to book a hotel for Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

3022
02:33:06,760 --> 02:33:08,080
Speaker 5: They require you to block all.

3023
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 4: Three days out, so if you are not doing a

3024
02:33:10,680 --> 02:33:14,039
Speaker 4: show on or around the game, there's not really a need,

3025
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:14,320
Speaker 4: you know.

3026
02:33:14,440 --> 02:33:16,119
Speaker 5: So my reaction show.

3027
02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:18,640
Speaker 4: Is Monday morning to the Super Bowl. So for Yahoo,

3028
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:20,480
Speaker 4: I spend the money to keep me out there all weekend,

3029
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:23,119
Speaker 4: so I leave Friday afternoon. It's one of those weird

3030
02:33:23,160 --> 02:33:24,840
Speaker 4: things I had to get used to when I first

3031
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:28,000
Speaker 4: joined media, is that Friday afternoon, like the whole place

3032
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:31,240
Speaker 4: is a zoo Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and then Friday afternoon,

3033
02:33:31,240 --> 02:33:32,800
Speaker 4: it feels like two thirds of the people clear out.

3034
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:33,600
Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy.

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02:33:33,959 --> 02:33:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird, isn't it how that works?

3036
02:33:36,360 --> 02:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know everybody's gone, and you know you saw

3037
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:43,879
Speaker 2: the main people that are covering the game, But it's

3038
02:33:43,920 --> 02:33:48,080
Speaker 2: the week long festivities that are really the attraction.

3039
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would implore anybody that's in the area go,

3040
02:33:53,240 --> 02:33:56,320
Speaker 4: like just walk around, see the people, watch, go to

3041
02:33:56,360 --> 02:34:00,200
Speaker 4: the NFL Experience thing, Like it's pretty wild. Everyday thing

3042
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:02,920
Speaker 4: that's there and everything that you can do and be

3043
02:34:02,959 --> 02:34:04,400
Speaker 4: a part of, even if you're not going to the

3044
02:34:04,400 --> 02:34:06,760
Speaker 4: game itself. It's just a it's just a cool experience,

3045
02:34:06,800 --> 02:34:08,920
Speaker 4: I think for the week and total chaos. I know

3046
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:11,959
Speaker 4: Vegas last week or last year was was total chaos

3047
02:34:11,959 --> 02:34:14,800
Speaker 4: and you couldn't even walk around half the time. So

3048
02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, New Orleans has a reputation as

3049
02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:21,560
Speaker 4: being such a spectacular host city. It'll be interesting because

3050
02:34:21,560 --> 02:34:24,720
Speaker 4: I went before when I was first starting out in

3051
02:34:24,800 --> 02:34:27,560
Speaker 4: this whole career, you know, before I was ever full

3052
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:29,280
Speaker 4: time doing it. I went to the New Orleans super

3053
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:31,760
Speaker 4: Bowl next to a buddy of mine and I just

3054
02:34:31,800 --> 02:34:35,440
Speaker 4: went and hung out. I didn't go to the game.

3055
02:34:35,520 --> 02:34:37,760
Speaker 4: I went to everything leading up to it to see

3056
02:34:37,760 --> 02:34:40,120
Speaker 4: how it works. I'll be interesting because that's been almost

3057
02:34:40,160 --> 02:34:42,480
Speaker 4: a decade, right, Like, it feels like this is far

3058
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:44,440
Speaker 4: more of a spectacle now than it was then.

3059
02:34:44,640 --> 02:34:48,959
Speaker 2: So yeah, to see how Yeah. In fact, I was

3060
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:53,119
Speaker 2: talking to I was text with Joe Flacco the other

3061
02:34:53,240 --> 02:34:56,720
Speaker 2: day and uh, we were talking about that because that

3062
02:34:56,840 --> 02:35:01,519
Speaker 2: was remember he was a rookie and it was Ravens

3063
02:35:01,720 --> 02:35:06,160
Speaker 2: Niners and it was funny because I wanted to get him.

3064
02:35:06,040 --> 02:35:08,480
Speaker 3: On the air and he's like, dude, goes, he goes.

3065
02:35:08,520 --> 02:35:09,640
Speaker 3: I just want to relax.

3066
02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to think about super Pole and I'm

3067
02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:16,040
Speaker 2: not going to relive that one. He goes, it was great,

3068
02:35:16,120 --> 02:35:19,200
Speaker 2: It was awesome, the whole thing. But you know, I mean,

3069
02:35:19,680 --> 02:35:22,680
Speaker 2: you know, for players, it's so interesting, right because of

3070
02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:27,800
Speaker 2: their own journey, and a lot of them go, you know,

3071
02:35:27,959 --> 02:35:30,000
Speaker 2: they'll watch it, they'll have it on, but they're not

3072
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:32,200
Speaker 2: you know, not for owing parties.

3073
02:35:33,360 --> 02:35:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's also tough for some people

3074
02:35:36,000 --> 02:35:39,000
Speaker 4: to sit there and watch what they're trying to accomplish.

3075
02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:38,640
Speaker 2: You know.

3076
02:35:38,680 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, other people do it, right.

3077
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:42,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you want to be in that game,

3078
02:35:42,760 --> 02:35:44,920
Speaker 4: not watching that game. And I can imagine that at

3079
02:35:44,959 --> 02:35:46,480
Speaker 4: the end of a long season, the first thing you

3080
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:47,920
Speaker 4: want to do is just get as far away from

3081
02:35:47,959 --> 02:35:50,440
Speaker 4: it as possible. You already have to do your workouts

3082
02:35:50,480 --> 02:35:52,760
Speaker 4: and everything else, Like, yeah, getting away from the game.

3083
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 4: I wouldn't watch it if I was playing in the league.

3084
02:35:55,080 --> 02:35:56,680
Speaker 2: Right, Like you could see it, right, Like you could

3085
02:35:56,680 --> 02:36:00,280
Speaker 2: see it from their perspective, you know. I mean, like

3086
02:36:00,320 --> 02:36:02,400
Speaker 2: if you imagine if you're a Bills, if you're on

3087
02:36:02,440 --> 02:36:04,440
Speaker 2: the Bills, like you're going, I don't I don't want

3088
02:36:04,680 --> 02:36:05,520
Speaker 2: do you want to watch that?

3089
02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:07,400
Speaker 4: Not a chance in hell I'm watching that if from

3090
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:08,800
Speaker 4: the Bills, no, I'm stay way away.

3091
02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:10,560
Speaker 2: If you're a Bills fan, you probably don't want to

3092
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:14,720
Speaker 2: watch it ro you know. Listen, we love your buddy

3093
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:17,920
Speaker 2: h Fellows love you guys. Thank you, have a great week.

3094
02:36:18,000 --> 02:36:19,120
Speaker 2: We'll see you next Saturday.