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Speaker 3: It is the first Monday show of twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Will review the Jaguars lost to the Steelers in preseason

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Speaker 3: Week one. The sky is falling around du ball. We'll

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Speaker 3: try to calm you down a little bit. Travis Hunter

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Speaker 3: update what happened on both sides of the ball for him,

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Speaker 3: and then a look ahead to this week of practice

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Speaker 3: in the Jaguars Saint preseason week two coming up. We

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Speaker 3: welcome and of course CBS Sports Senior writer Pete Prisco.

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Speaker 3: Tony Boselli's down the hall in another office these days.

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Speaker 3: Our new teammate on Monday Happy our former Jaguars defensive

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Speaker 3: lineman current UFC fighter Austin Lane. Welcome, Austin.

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Speaker 4: So this wasn't my job, resume when you guys brought

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Speaker 4: me on to calm people down, Like I thought we

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Speaker 4: could just be honest after that first preseason game.

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Speaker 3: But I wasn't told in the email we have to

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Speaker 3: calm people down. But I'm nervous now. Pete does not

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Speaker 3: calm anybody down. I got you at all.

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Speaker 2: Never. By the way, welcome to the insane Asylum, Austin.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have it. We're gonna have a great time. Look.

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Speaker 2: I berated and abused the last.

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Speaker 5: Guy that'sat in the seat, so he ended up as

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Speaker 5: being a general manager.

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Speaker 2: So if I berate and abuse you, you'll probably end

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Speaker 2: up being the champion of the world.

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Speaker 3: And you're wait, see I like that. Yeah, we're moving on,

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Speaker 3: U man. I like it. You can watch it on

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Speaker 3: CBS apparently coming up too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good that's a good thing.

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Speaker 3: The deal.

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Speaker 2: By the way, who who did you say was down

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Speaker 2: the hall?

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Speaker 3: But silly who?

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Speaker 2: Who? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 2: He's gone, it's sober, he's upstairs.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying he's down the hall, he's you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: But I'm curious if he has rabbit ears like the

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Speaker 3: last guy.

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Speaker 2: Of course he does, of course he does. You know

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Speaker 2: he's gonna have rabbit ears? Are you kidding me? Now,

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Speaker 2: he'll do it in a playful way. He won't do

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Speaker 2: it in a mean, nasty way, right, I think.

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Speaker 3: I would hope so.

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Speaker 4: But to be honest with you, man, is it true

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Speaker 4: that did you bully him into the EVP job or

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Speaker 4: did he take that job willingly?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: A little bit of both, I think.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit of both.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, it was. It's a great opportunity for him.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy for him. I think he's great in that job.

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Speaker 5: He's be great in the role. But what it really does,

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Speaker 5: if the thing goes rotten, it gives us. It gives

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Speaker 5: us a layup on every week.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's the low hanging fruit there, Pete.

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Speaker 5: I mean, and now he's not only that, he's dressing

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Speaker 5: like Gladstone.

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Speaker 3: Oh we had how about Pete? We had both those

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Speaker 3: guys on together the last three weeks on the Liam

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Speaker 3: Cohen Show. We don't have the coach yet until the

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Speaker 3: regular season. So it's been Gladstone and Bisselli together and

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Speaker 3: it's like the movie Twins, remember that one where it's

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Speaker 3: like Schwarzenegger individo by wrong.

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Speaker 2: Though when he used to come on the show, he'd

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Speaker 2: wear a T shirt or he button down shirt or something.

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Speaker 5: Now he's wearing these Lulu Lemon hoodies or whatever. He's

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Speaker 3: And these short shorts. Well, all of a sudden, they're

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Speaker 3: back in style. It's ridiculous. Listen, I'm gonna shout.

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Speaker 2: Out to you should come in a hoodie. You should

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Speaker 2: come in a hoodie.

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Speaker 3: One day.

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Speaker 4: So, and I don't know, James Gladstone and some of

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Speaker 4: these coaches actually did a science experiment at training camp

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Speaker 4: because we saw one day James Gladstone was rocking actually

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Speaker 4: like a full fledged hoodie, which was insane to me

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Speaker 4: because we're talking about like ninety degrees. Yeah, practice, And

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Speaker 4: if you're the GM of the Jacksonville Jaguars, why you

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Speaker 4: got a sweat you know? I mean, I'm wearing a

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Speaker 4: tank top. As far as i'm you can't tell me nothing.

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Speaker 4: I brought Travis Hunter here, but we saw him in

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Speaker 4: a hoodie, so I was like I was curious if

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Speaker 4: how much you know, how much weight would I lose?

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Speaker 3: What would my heart rate be? Just standing there?

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Speaker 4: And we actually measured out. I was talking, I was,

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Speaker 4: I was talking to some of the other but you

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Speaker 4: were standing there. It wasn't I mean I was passionately

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Speaker 4: arguing sometimes too, but you.

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Speaker 3: Were standing there. I was pastially arguing.

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Speaker 4: By the way, burned eight hundred calories, lost five pounds,

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Speaker 4: So don't just say I was standing there. Okay, the

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Speaker 3: So I was doing some work out there, Pete.

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Speaker 5: Wow, So so wait, so you lost five pounds just

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Speaker 5: standing there.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was in it.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of jogging a little bit, trying to

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Speaker 4: see like the team's periods.

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Speaker 3: They had a goal line period.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't see anything, so I had to kind of

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Speaker 3: I was working out there the day.

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Speaker 5: The day I was there at training camp is the

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Speaker 5: hottest day in Jacksonville history, I think, or.

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Speaker 3: One of them.

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Speaker 5: Remember I think it was one hundred and one that

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Speaker 5: day and JP drags me out into midfield to talk

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Speaker 5: to the fans before before practice, and half of.

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Speaker 2: Them hated me and half of them loved me.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's about right, And that's what I expect.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what you want, that's what you want. See

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Speaker 2: right now, everybody loves Austin right the new.

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Speaker 5: Guy comes in, former player, everybody love it, give him,

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Speaker 5: give him a month, you know of half hating him

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Speaker 5: and half loving them.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it is.

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Speaker 3: After the first loss of the season. Guess what if, Austin,

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Speaker 3: you're out there and uh, you know, as honest as

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Speaker 3: both sides.

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Speaker 5: I think that defense play the other night Austin would

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Speaker 2: Right now, is.

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Speaker 3: This overreaction, Monday Peene?

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you, Well, look, I'm one of those guys.

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Speaker 5: When I look at the PRECISA, I can't analyze it.

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Speaker 5: I can't break it down. What was the Jaguars record

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Speaker 5: the preseason last year?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 5: And okay, enough set a good team, but he can't

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Speaker 5: evaluate it. You're playing against guys that will be working

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Speaker 5: you know in on Wall Street or bouncing at a

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Speaker 5: bar in a couple of weeks. You know, it's just

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Speaker 5: you can't evaluate it. It's you hope to see some things,

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Speaker 5: little things, but the big picture evaluation cannot be done.

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Speaker 5: It just can't be done. Now, I'll say this, that

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Speaker 5: was a sloppy team. That team was sloppy the other

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Speaker 5: night in a lot of ways. And you know, we

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Speaker 5: look at the defense. Can I watched the tape this afternoon.

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Speaker 5: I can't tell you how many times JP where the

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Speaker 5: call is coming in and they're looking at each other,

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Speaker 5: play right, I mean, they were just they were not

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Speaker 2: Could be a problem.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know what the disconnect was or why

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Speaker 4: So that was one of the things for the pregame

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Speaker 4: show that I was gonna watch because if you know Camp,

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Speaker 4: and coverages, they can be a little complicated. Now, Granted,

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Speaker 4: But I did see some guys out there turn around

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Speaker 4: and I get it. Okay, it's the first preseason game,

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Speaker 4: but I feel like some of those things, along with

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Speaker 4: So I think those are some things to be cautious

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Speaker 4: about a little bit where you got to clean them up.

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Speaker 4: You got to clean up the pre snap penalties, right,

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Speaker 4: those they get cleaned up. And obviously you can't have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they actually worked on that today. Pete coach

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Speaker 3: going after practice today, was like, hey, we didn't have

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Speaker 3: It was about communication. It was about all of that

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Speaker 3: being in the right spot on defense mainly, but on

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Speaker 2: You know, Austin, you made a good point. It was

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Speaker 2: vanilla as vanilla can be.

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Speaker 5: And they were still having communication problem with what happens

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Speaker 5: when it starts getting complex. I mean, that's the scary

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Speaker 5: thing about it, because when I watched practice, I'm sure

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Speaker 5: you guys have been out there more than me. They

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Speaker 5: seem to really grasp it and they love it, and

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Speaker 5: they loved the complexity of it and being able to

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Speaker 5: show double a gap mug blitzers and backing out of

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Speaker 5: it and dropping guys out and blitzing guys. Well, they

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Speaker 5: didn't do any of that the other night, and they

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Speaker 5: still had busts and really seemed to be lost at time.

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Speaker 2: So that is a little concern.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad they went back and did a mental day

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Speaker 5: today rather than go out and do something physical.

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Speaker 2: I think that makes a lot of sense. I think

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Speaker 2: Liam Cole was smart to do that.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Our TENTIONONEXLAM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 3: Pete Prisco and Austin Lane. It's the first show of

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season. How about the offensive performance.

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Speaker 3: The starters go one drive, guys, they go twelve plays,

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Speaker 3: field goal penalties, full start on the first play of

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Speaker 3: the game. It's never ideal. And then the double penalty

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Speaker 3: negated one of the Travis Hunter catches a little bit later,

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Speaker 3: but they overcame gotten field goal range and got at

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Speaker 3: least something down the field too, and they extended to

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Speaker 3: drive with a fourth down play as well. That right here,

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Speaker 3: we're looking at it on Jaguars dot Com. Overall, Austin

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Speaker 3: from the starting offense, what did you gather if anything?

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Speaker 4: I mean, we just saw that play with Towammie Brown

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Speaker 4: getting picked up and carried back. I've seen a couple

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Speaker 4: of yards there. I can't believe that wasn't a full

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Speaker 4: So I think overall, you didn't get the ball in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think everything that he's worked on carried

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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 2: You go back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, here, if we go back and run this play again,

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Speaker 2: Wide open and I get the football.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't see what he likes, he takes off.

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Speaker 3: Now you know, it wasn't a game changing run by

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Speaker 2: But don't you Washington. He had Parker Washington on the

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Speaker 5: Give him the ball Parker Washington takes to hit, not

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Speaker 2: That's that's why I think he should have gone there, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to retrain that though.

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Speaker 2: That's what it was better. It was better. It was quicker,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you go to practice, if you go

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Speaker 2: Everyone's you've seen it, right. I love I like that call.

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Speaker 5: It's it's a quick you know, you think you're gonna

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Speaker 3: Get into the I just there's a lot.

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Speaker 3: He loves buble screen. I know, Austin, you're new, welcome

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, I don't mind bubble screens, but not when

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Speaker 3: All right. Plenty ahead, We got plenty of time to

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Speaker 3: Apparently Pete wants to dig in there. I'm all about it.

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Speaker 3: That's a competitive group.

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Speaker 2: I think, or competitive should it be?

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Speaker 3: Okay, ah, that's the thought. We'll get to that coming up.

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Speaker 6: It takes us just coming in being ourselves every day,

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Speaker 6: it's a physical sport. We all want to come up

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Speaker 3: Florida and good to hear from Trayvon Walker there. And

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Speaker 2: But he talked about stopping the run. The Steelers didn't

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Speaker 5: Let's be real, the way they're constructed right now on

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Speaker 5: You know, Armstead, I hadn't played at all one How

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Speaker 5: Every stop I've been to, this guy's not practiced with

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Speaker 5: Armstead right now is a major issue for that team,

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Speaker 2: They have to be on the field.

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Speaker 5: What we saw the other night, did you see any Austin?

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Speaker 4: they don't know, they don't owe me anything. Like as

443
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Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, I still have to prove myself.

444
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Speaker 4: So you know, if it's a lingering injury where it's

445
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Speaker 4: kind of here, I would hope that he you know,

446
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Speaker 4: it's a serious injury where he can't be out there,

447
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Speaker 4: because if there's if you're teeter tottering, you probably should

448
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Speaker 4: be out there. And as far as Mason Smith's concerned,

449
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Speaker 4: you know, everything that I've heard is he was you know,

450
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Speaker 4: he was training really hard during the offseason.

451
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Speaker 3: Has this injury. We're not sure how long he is

452
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Speaker 3: going to be out of But.

453
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, in this coach camp defense,

454
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Speaker 4: you can have all the different coverages you want, but

455
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Speaker 4: you can't make up for deficiencies on the interior defensive line.

456
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Speaker 3: I will say this about Mason Smith, the guy's peete.

457
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Speaker 3: It's you know, he's been working off to the side

458
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Speaker 3: out in the open practices.

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Speaker 2: What injury.

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Speaker 3: It looks like lower body. One of his lower legs

461
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Speaker 3: is wrapped. They haven't said officially what it is.

462
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Speaker 2: It's like it's like hockey now. They're just a lower

463
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Speaker 2: lower dud.

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Speaker 5: But you're right though, also because I heard the same

465
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Speaker 5: stuff that he had been just a madman all off

466
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Speaker 5: season and he'd gotten into really good shape, and they

467
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Speaker 5: were counting on him being a big part.

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Speaker 2: Of what they were going to do.

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Speaker 5: So it has to be this one has to be

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Speaker 5: frustrating for him personally.

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Speaker 2: And the team. Armstead is a veteran. Camp ain't fun.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's be real. Camp isn't fun. Nobody likes it.

473
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Speaker 5: But I'm not saying he's jaking it because I don't know,

474
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Speaker 5: and we don't know the extent of the injury.

475
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Speaker 2: And teams, by.

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Speaker 5: The way, do it players disserviced by not telling you

477
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Speaker 5: what the injury is?

478
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Speaker 2: What?

479
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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: What exactly is his injury? Is it a disc injury?

481
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Speaker 2: Is it just a tweak in the back?

482
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Speaker 3: Is it?

483
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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 5: And so now what's out there is where? And they're

485
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Speaker 5: speculating on is.

486
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Speaker 2: He jaking it or not right?

487
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Speaker 5: And so if I'm Eric Armstead, I'm going in front

488
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Speaker 5: of everybody saying, look.

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Speaker 2: Dude, this is what my injury is. I have a

490
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Speaker 2: disc herniated disc or whatever it is. If he does

491
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Speaker 2: have that, then say it.

492
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Speaker 5: We the NFL has become so paranoid about the injuries,

493
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Speaker 5: but then they don't ever look at the other.

494
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Speaker 2: Side of it. It exposes him.

495
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Speaker 5: It opens them up to criticism that maybe he doesn't

496
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Speaker 5: deserve right if he has a bat a truly a

497
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Speaker 5: herniated disc or something wrong with his back, he should

498
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Speaker 5: say it.

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Speaker 3: Fair. I mean, it's fair.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I feel like, now with

501
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Speaker 4: social media and everything, if something truly was wrong, what's

502
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Speaker 4: to stop a player from just going on online.

503
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Speaker 3: And he's got his own podcast. I mean, like, listen,

504
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Speaker 3: I'm sure.

505
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Speaker 2: Like calling him out for jaking.

506
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Speaker 3: I love this guy already.

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Speaker 4: No, But I mean, I think if it is serious,

508
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Speaker 4: if it was me, right, and obviously I'm the modern

509
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Speaker 4: era NFL player, right, so I'm watching everything, I'm putting

510
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Speaker 4: my name in Twitter and I'm searching it up, and

511
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Speaker 4: I'm seeing what people are saying about me.

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Speaker 3: Well, what they're saying about me now probably isn't the

513
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Speaker 3: most positive, right.

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Speaker 4: So if that's the case, then I'm gonna go maybe

515
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Speaker 4: against coaches wishes of hey keep on the dot. No,

516
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be like, here's what's going on. I'm actually

517
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Speaker 4: hurt and hopefully I'll be back soon. Like that's that's

518
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Speaker 4: what I would say. It could be cryptic, It could

519
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Speaker 4: have some rap lyrics to it too, if you want

520
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Speaker 4: to do that, because a lot of players are into that.

521
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Speaker 3: But whatever the case may be.

522
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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna put something out there to let people

523
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Speaker 4: know exactly what's going on.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you talk about it, go against coaches wishes.

525
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Speaker 5: I remember back in the day when Coughlin used to

526
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Speaker 5: tell players, don't say anything.

527
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Speaker 2: About your injuries. And I remember walking up to Hardy Nickerson.

528
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Speaker 2: I go, how's your leg? He goes, well, I'm not

529
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Speaker 2: allowed to talk about it. I go, it's your leg.

530
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Speaker 2: It's your damn leg. It's not their leg, it's your leg.

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Speaker 2: It's Eric arch Send's back.

532
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I don't think what's going on with him

533
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Speaker 5: because you know, you hear it.

534
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Speaker 2: You guys live near I've heard a bunch of it.

535
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Speaker 5: There are a lot of fans out there who are

536
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Speaker 5: questioning his heart and desire right now to be on

537
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Speaker 5: the field, and as long as in Austin as well.

538
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Speaker 2: By the way, I.

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Speaker 5: Look rightfully so, because they'd exposed him to that, you

540
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Speaker 5: should just make it go away.

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Speaker 2: He can make it go away. They can make it

542
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Speaker 2: go away. What's the damn injury? And how long is

543
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Speaker 2: he going to be out? Not just let where is

544
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Speaker 2: he he's not practicing? You know, what I mean, it

545
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Speaker 2: just leaves it open.

546
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Speaker 3: Fred Taylor's injury was legitimate, clearly, I mean, the thing

547
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Speaker 3: was off the bone, but they all called him day

548
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Speaker 3: to day back then, right, Pete, instead of just saying

549
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Speaker 3: what it was.

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Speaker 2: As soon as it happened, he was day to day.

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Speaker 5: And that thing was ripped off the bone so badly

552
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Speaker 5: that it looked like he got shot with a sniper,

553
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Speaker 5: you know. And that's how bad it was. And he

554
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Speaker 5: dropped the ball. Fred dropped the ball, He fumbled. That's

555
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Speaker 5: how bad that was day to day. And so what

556
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 5: happened with Fred Taylor is it became well, why is

557
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Speaker 5: any back?

558
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Speaker 2: He's day to day? Why is he back? Well, the

559
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: thing was ripped off the bone. This is this We

560
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: don't know if this is the same type of scenario.

561
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Speaker 3: But that's the point.

562
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Speaker 2: Two things are at play here.

563
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Speaker 3: Though.

564
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Speaker 2: There's only two things.

565
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Speaker 5: Either he's really hurt and they need to say it,

566
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Speaker 5: or he needs to say it, or he's not really

567
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Speaker 5: hurt and they're frustrated like crazy the fact that he

568
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Speaker 5: isn't practicing. That's the only two things at play here.

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Speaker 5: So neither one is great, by the way.

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Speaker 4: No, but Pete, even in the fact, because listen, the

571
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Speaker 4: the MO of this organization, this regime, whether we're talking

572
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Speaker 4: about James Gladstone, talking about Tony Basselli or head coach

573
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Speaker 4: Liam Cohen, them has been to keep everybody in the

574
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Speaker 4: loop right to kind of peel the curtain back a

575
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Speaker 4: little bit and take us behind there, Like, are you

576
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Speaker 4: a little surprised that we don't know what's going on

577
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Speaker 4: right now? Because when Week one starts, we'll know. So

578
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Speaker 4: what competitive advantage do you have right now by kind

579
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Speaker 4: of keeping it, you know, under wraps, not telling anybody

580
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Speaker 4: from a couple of weeks down the line, when it's

581
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Speaker 4: week when you're playing Carolina, then we'll all know.

582
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Speaker 5: Could tell you I was around a couple of different

583
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Speaker 5: spots and and you know, people talking this league and

584
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Speaker 5: they're they're looking for a defensive they're looking I mean,

585
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Speaker 5: you know, they're the people may they know the Jaguars

586
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 5: are looking so and they signed one. I mean, they

587
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: did sign one, right, so they need more. And if

588
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 5: if Armstead and Smith aren't around that group that's right

589
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Speaker 5: there on the field right now, isn't good enough?

590
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Speaker 7: Just isn't.

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Speaker 3: We've got plenty ahead. We'll return and get in the

592
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Speaker 3: running back room. We'll see who Austin's gonna accuse of

593
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Speaker 3: something in that room coming up.

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Speaker 4: Pete's it gets not even a half hour in.

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Speaker 2: The team's doing that to them or he's doing it

596
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Speaker 2: to himself, one or the other. Austin's not wrong.

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Speaker 3: Austin's gonna fit in just fine, I think on this show.

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Speaker 7: Ultimately, it's something that takes no talent to do, and

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Speaker 7: you know, we can't beat anybody. This is something we've

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Speaker 7: been preaching for a long time since we arrived, was

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Speaker 7: we cannot start to beat people until we stop beating ourselves.

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Speaker 7: And that has remained pretty consistent since February or wherever

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Speaker 7: it's been so Yeah, frustrating for sure.

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen after the game Saturday on the penalties for

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Speaker 3: Coming up in two at five o'clock. We have fanatics,

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Speaker 3: running backs Travis et and Junior officially got the start

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Speaker 3: on the Saturday night. He played twelve snaps in the game.

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Speaker 3: Tank Bigsby fifteen snaps in the game, with Quinn Allen

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Speaker 3: the rookie sixteen the base Shoal Teuton had twenty and Jackson,

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Speaker 3: the other rookie, had two snaps in the game. And

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Speaker 3: in terms of their production in the running department, Bigsby

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Speaker 3: six for twenty four, Tooton six for twenty four in

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Speaker 3: a touchdown, Etn two for six had some passing game work,

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Speaker 3: and Touton had a couple catches in the passing game. So, Pete,

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Speaker 3: we've been waiting anxiously for your take on the running

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Speaker 3: back room.

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Speaker 5: Well, because the entire offseason, everybody kept saying that Bigsby

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Speaker 5: was going to be the start arting running back and

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Speaker 5: I never bought that.

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Speaker 2: Why But I also no, I just don't think I don't.

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Speaker 5: Look, he's a nice runner, he's a puff runner, but

637
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Speaker 5: I don't think he's.

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Speaker 2: What they need at running back.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Etn is the guy either. I think

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Speaker 5: Twton will be their starting running back. Now might not

641
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 5: happen on the first game, but at some point it'll happen.

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Speaker 5: And here's why we saw that the other night. The

643
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Speaker 5: reason why not you're playing a preseason game. So, but

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Speaker 5: you've seen glimpses of it this entire when he's been

645
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Speaker 5: on the field. I know he's digged up a little bit.

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Speaker 5: There was a play, and I'm gonna start with Etn.

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Speaker 5: There was a play early in that game where he

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Speaker 5: took a hand off and right tackle Anton Harrison just

649
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Speaker 5: blew his guy down the line and all Etn.

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Speaker 2: Had to do.

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Speaker 5: And I'm thinking about Fred Taylor and his heyday put

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Speaker 5: his foot in his put in the ground and pop

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Speaker 5: it behind that block as he drives it.

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Speaker 2: He beat him so badly.

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Speaker 5: He's down the left, He's on the left side of

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Speaker 5: the line. That's how he caved it in. It was

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Speaker 5: and he runs for about twenty yards and instead he

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Speaker 5: ran smack dab into the guy that Anthon Harrison was blocking.

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Speaker 5: Didn't didn't cut, didn't try and pop outside, didn't try

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Speaker 5: and go that way, went right into him. Later in

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Speaker 5: the game, when tots in the game and the backup

662
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Speaker 5: lines in the game, there was a handoff in the

663
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Speaker 5: middle of the field that I don't remember the exact

664
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Speaker 5: yard age he was but it was a six yard

665
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: run I think he had where he started to.

666
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: The right and popped it to the left. You saw

667
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: a little juice in there, a little cutback ability.

668
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: Then later on when he scored that touchdown, there was

669
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 5: a little juice and a little power.

670
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Speaker 3: The power wasn't in his in his scouting report, honestly.

671
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 5: But if you went back and watch his college tape,

672
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: there was more of that than you see. I loved

673
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: him coming out. He was one of my favorite guys.

674
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 5: In fact, three of their rookies were on my annual

675
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 5: Better than team right twenty guys that I like better

676
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: than the scouts. He was one of them, and the

677
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 5: other two were the two offensive linemen who might have

678
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: been as good as any of the offensive linemen on

679
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Speaker 5: the field the other night. Mannheim was terrific at left

680
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: guard when he was on the field, and I thought

681
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 5: he would be a center, but he was really good

682
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Speaker 5: the other night and left guard.

683
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Speaker 2: And Mylam was.

684
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Speaker 5: The other one who played it right tackle and left

685
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 5: tackle and was good in those situations. So but Twoton,

686
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: to me, gives him what the other two guys don't,

687
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Speaker 5: the ability to take a run front side and be

688
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 5: able to take it backside the.

689
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Speaker 2: Other guy's run right at it. You agree with me, Austin,

690
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a lot of wiggle.

691
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna say this with Etn.

692
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that pre season game, you know,

693
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: he didn't show the best vision, and if you want

694
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 4: to be a great back in this league, you have

695
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: to have the vision. I did hear rumblings that everyone

696
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: was on tanking biggsby be in the starting running back.

697
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 4: I never bought that either, because I think what Liam

698
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 4: Cohen's looking for here in terms of the backfield is versatility.

699
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: If you think back to last year, if you had

700
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: Bucky Irving, Rashad White, well, what can they do well?

701
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: They can well, Bucky every Moore can run, run between

702
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: the tackles. He's also a great receiver. And the one

703
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: knock on Bigsby is is how dependable is he in

704
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: the receiving game. And I think he's one of those

705
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 4: guys where if you see him in the backfield, okay,

706
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: it's gonna be power, it's gonna be inside zone. But

707
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: he's not gonna scare us in the screen games. He's

708
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 4: not gonna scare us, you know, doing a wheel orut

709
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 4: anything like that. So I think it's gonna be some

710
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: combination of ETN and Twuton. I think with Tuton obviously

711
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: right now it's can you take care of the football,

712
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: which is the most important thing, right and and time

713
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: will tell with that once he gets those true game experience.

714
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 4: But I think we're gonna see a running back by

715
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Speaker 4: committee for the first couple of weeks see how they do.

716
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: But my money right now is on Traves CTM being

717
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: you started running back until proven otherwise I would agree.

718
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: I think on opening day he will be the running back.

719
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: It just becomes a matter of when Tooton takes over

720
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 5: as the guy. And you mentioned the fumbling because he

721
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: had fumbling problems at Virginia Tech, but he also fumbled

722
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Speaker 5: on the first day he was here, I guess, in

723
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 5: mini camp, and that.

724
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Speaker 2: Opened him up. But since that he's been really good

725
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: with the football.

726
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: And you know, Tiki Barber once was a fumbler and

727
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: he kind of cured himself of that. Coauughland kind of

728
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 5: cured himself, cured him of that, and he wasn't He

729
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 5: wasn't a fumbler after that.

730
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Speaker 2: So I just think holme run, pop put back ability.

731
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: I think they're both there with him.

732
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Speaker 5: And the fact that he did show the power, that's

733
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 5: a good thing because that's.

734
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Speaker 2: The one thing you were you know, I did see

735
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: it at Virginia Tech, but running with power in college

736
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: is totally different.

737
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 5: To see it a little bit, even in his first

738
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 5: game in a preseason game is good to see too well.

739
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: And I was pleasantly surprised by that because I'll be honest,

740
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't watching a lot of ACC football last year.

741
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, you have to you have to.

742
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: Sec where it just means a little more right and Obviously,

743
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 4: I'm from Wisconsin. I'm a big ten guy, so I

744
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: wasn't really, you know, too intrigued with Tutons game in

745
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: terms of running football between the tackles. But he showed

746
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: me something there and I was excited for that because

747
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 4: then it got me thinking, Okay, well, what is Liam

748
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: cohen ZMO?

749
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: What does he like to do?

750
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: He likes those two back formations, you know that twenty

751
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: one personnel twenty personel. I think he calls a pony package.

752
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken, or that's what he called it in Tampa.

753
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 4: So now if you have a combination of Tuton and

754
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: travesy Etn back there, I'm all for. And maybe you

755
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: throw Tank Bigsby in that mix as well. But like,

756
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: and I'm without getting too much x's and o's here.

757
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: I remember when Green Bay used to run this back

758
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: in the day with AJ Dillon, and I would have

759
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: been Aaron Jones, and teams got keen to it because

760
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: you saw, okay, well we got AJ Dillon, who's like

761
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty pounds.

762
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: He's not going to be that receiver, so we set

763
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: the strong side to him.

764
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: We have a linebacker account for Obviously, the passing of

765
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Jones will go from there. Same thing happened in

766
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: Dallas when you had Ezekiel Elliott and Tony Pollard. Ezekie

767
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: Elliott's the guy between the tackles and then you have

768
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 4: Tony Pollard was.

769
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: The receiving back.

770
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Speaker 4: Well, then you go to Indianapolis and you have Jonathan

771
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 4: Taylor and you have nim Hines. That kind of changed

772
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 4: the game a little bit because Taylor can be a

773
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 4: receiver as well. So now you had two essentially receivers

774
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 4: in the backfield causing mismatches. I think Liam con can

775
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: do that exact same thing here. He did it obviously

776
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay. And if you have etn if you

777
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 4: have Tuton back there, that could be a mismatch nightmare.

778
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 5: Here's and you're right, but here's part of the equation

779
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: that we don't know. In Tampa Bay, Rashad White's one

780
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 5: of the best third down blockers in the NFL.

781
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: He'll put his nose right in there.

782
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 5: The criticism of Ethen is he doesn't isn't great in

783
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: pass protection.

784
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: We don't know if Tuton can do it, he might

785
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: be willing. Do you know who can do it? Alan

786
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: can do it?

787
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: He is not scared of contact.

788
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 5: He will stick his and by the way, he can

789
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 5: catch the ball out of the backfield too. I mean,

790
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: I just think if you look at the big picture

791
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: for this team going forward, ETN is probably not going

792
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 5: to be here next.

793
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: Year, right, I mean, no, he's not gonna get a

794
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: second contract, you would think, especially with all these draft

795
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: picks they just got this year.

796
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 5: Okay, so you got to start peaking at some point

797
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 5: the season. You got to start peaking ahead. I'm not

798
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: to say that you start, but I think you still

799
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: have to win the job.

800
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, would have to win the job or whatever.

801
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: But I think their future is tooton. That's where I'm

802
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: at with that.

803
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: I think he's their future, and it might be sooner

804
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: rather than later.

805
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: I love home runs, but you know, I love though

806
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: the big play and he gives them that.

807
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 3: Could ETN force their hand into another contract though somehow

808
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: with like a monster year or is that just too much? No?

809
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,479
Speaker 2: No, he is a running back.

810
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: There's no way he's getting another contract, right. No, No,

811
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 5: not when you draft two and there's a million of

812
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 5: them out there.

813
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: So no, he's not getting another contract. And by the way, the.

814
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 5: James Cook contract. He hasn't got a contract yet from

815
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 5: the Bills. They've offered him a deal from what I heard,

816
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 5: twelve million year. You gonna pay, You gonna pay ETN

817
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: twelve million.

818
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 3: They're paying them six and a half right now.

819
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: Pete, Well, they're paying James Cooked five and a half.

820
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: You're not gonna go from five and a half. You're

821
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: not gonna go from six and a half to twelve

822
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: with ETN.

823
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: You're just not gonna do that. So you gotta start

824
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 5: peeking ahead. It's a cruel reality NFL. He was drafted

825
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 5: in the first round, had lived up to it. Not

826
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: going to get a second contract as a runner in Jacksonville,

827
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: He's just not.

828
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: He kind of thought that was might be trending the

829
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: other way with the success of a couple of the

830
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: big name guys. Say one, right, all that, but it's

831
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: still the business of the league. And what is it

832
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: with running backs here?

833
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: Two man doesn't matter if they're undrafted free agentsy like

834
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: a James Robinson or Traves etm like they have like

835
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: those breakout seasons where it's like this is gonna be

836
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 4: the guy for the next decade, it seems like, and

837
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 4: then you know they.

838
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: Fall off a little bit. Wow, yeah, serious, what you know?

839
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: What you do?

840
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 5: You know what the cruel reality in the NFL is

841
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 5: you draft them, you run them into the ground, and

842
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 5: after four years you draft another one.

843
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

844
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: I say, there are millions of them out there, and

845
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 5: in certain situations you can.

846
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: You can if you have the good offensive line, they're

847
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: gonna run the football. No, there aren't Barclays out there.

848
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 5: There are guys like that dark Derek Henry's out there,

849
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 5: but there are there aren't James Cooks out there. Let's

850
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 5: be real, and so you got to ask yourself because

851
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: he worth twelve million dollars a year.

852
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment and we'll get into

853
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: the specialists. Cam little from seventy the other night. How

854
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: do we open up with that? Oh, he had other

855
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: stuff to talk about.

856
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,880
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857
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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by jet Home Loans that

862
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Speaker 3: was a special moment.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think the group, you know, not only

864
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 8: the specialist I realized how how cool that was.

865
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Speaker 3: But you saw the team just get.

866
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Speaker 8: Behind Cam and they realized how talented he is and

867
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Speaker 8: the type of person he is, so they love him

868
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Speaker 8: to death. And you can just see that the excitement

869
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 8: not only for the for the team, but for him

870
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 8: and in our group. So pretty cool moment. Obviously it's preseason,

871
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 8: you know, we understand that, but it was so cool

872
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 8: to be a part of that.

873
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: Seeth Farwell, the Jaguars special teams coordinator, after practice today,

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Speaker 3: yard field goal for Cam Little the end of the half.

877
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Speaker 3: They set it up, they get to play. They banged

878
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: the time out and Leam Cohen looked over and Cam

879
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, let's go for it, and he got

880
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 3: it by about three yards. Austin, Yeah, it's wild, man,

881
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: not wild.

882
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: From the fact that I took after the Jaguars game

883
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 4: is the past year or so, the big story's always

884
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: been like, Ah, the punter or the kicker, right, and

885
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: then no difference here because this was a trending topic,

886
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: as it should have been. But unreal kick, man. You know,

887
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: it's shame that happened in the preseason. It's not gonna

888
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: officially count. There's an asterisk next to it. But nevertheless,

889
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 4: he's keeping that game ball for a reason, man, because

890
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: that was amazing.

891
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: You know, he's the best fourteen year old kicker I've

892
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: ever seen.

893
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: It's amazing till he drives a carnelievable.

894
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: He looks he's just some babyface candy booms the hell out.

895
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: Of the ball.

896
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 5: You know what the problem with this is now, anytime

897
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 5: in the game they get like inside seventy yards, the

898
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 5: fans are gonna be clamoring for a field goal, right,

899
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 5: no matter what you have four right, if.

900
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: It's a sixty five yard or round. He made it

901
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: from seventy, don't worry kick it. What are you gonna do?

902
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: You gotta kick it. But boy, he's got a big leg.

903
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 2: It must be nice.

904
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: And as much as I rip on special teams, and

905
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 5: believe me, I rip on them, you know, I told

906
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: Matt Lafleur the other day what I always say about

907
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: a kicker.

908
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: If I was a head coach. We sit in the

909
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: green room when they miss him on Sundays, and I go,

910
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: if I were the head coach, I'd walk over there

911
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: and choke.

912
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I really wouldn't, but I'd say that, you know,

913
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 5: and because that's your only job in life is to

914
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 5: make your damn kicks.

915
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 2: I say it all the time, make.

916
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: Your da all the time. You say that, make your

917
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: damn kicks.

918
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, those guys that barstool actually made a

919
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: T shirt out of that and started selling it.

920
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 5: By the way, I think I would never see anything

921
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 5: from Marvin Meyer anything, not one thing, zero. But when

922
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 5: you look at their kicking game, no worries at all,

923
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: zero worries. And that's always nice. So that's reassuring. But

924
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 5: the kid's a great kicker, and and he's only scratching

925
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: the surface.

926
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: Now.

927
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 5: Having said that, we've seen kickers who are just unbelievably

928
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: good for short periods of time and then next thing

929
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: you know, you look over you go, what the hell

930
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 5: happened to him?

931
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: Right?

932
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: Think back to the history of this league and and

933
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a couple of examps. Remember when

934
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 5: Jason Myers was in Jacksonville, ye right, big leg and.

935
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Boom it boom. It didn't work out well.

936
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 5: Then he goes when he went to the Jets, No

937
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: Jets first was it?

938
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: Jets first didn't work out? Then Seattle.

939
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 5: He becomes a guy that doesn't miss kicks, and then

940
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: you wonder when that's gonna go bad, because it goes bad.

941
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: But this kid hasn't even scratched the surface yet of

942
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 5: what he is as a kicker.

943
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: So he's a great weapon.

944
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 5: You don't want to use him because he's a field

945
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 5: goal kicker, but it's a great weapon that.

946
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: I mean when it comes down to kickoffs as well,

947
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: you got you've got to place it in certain spots.

948
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: He's been pretty good at that.

949
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 5: This league has made the placing of the field of

950
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 5: the of the kickoff such a challenge now because I

951
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 5: hate these stupid rules.

952
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and played football.

953
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah that was the thirty five right? Is that? What

954
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: was thirty five? Ridiculous kickers anything?

955
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: And it's funny too, man, because I talked to Josh

956
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: Scobey today and funny story about Josh Scobey. He was

957
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 4: actually in the bathroom. So he went to the game

958
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 4: obviously went to the bathroom before halftime. And actually missed

959
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: that kick and then came back and obviously was astonished.

960
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 4: But uh, listen to him rant about just like the

961
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 4: new rule changes, how they're not helping kickers, man. I mean,

962
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 4: he was. He was personally a victim, I feel like.

963
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 4: And he hasn't been in the game for a couple

964
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: of years now, man, but he was still pretty kicked

965
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 4: off about it.

966
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 5: You know, the Jaguars had actually had good kickers in

967
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 5: their history. Mike Hollis there was the original kicker, was

968
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: a good kicker. Scobe was a good kicker. Now they

969
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 5: had a couple of years where they didn't where they

970
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 5: didn't quite work out.

971
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: Didn't quite I had to burn some sage at the

972
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: stadium to try to, you know, get rid of that

973
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 4: curse for a while.

974
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: I feel like with this team in kickers.

975
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: Who was your kickers when you were there? It was Kobe,

976
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: So you were good.

977
00:42:58,880 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: I mean.

978
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: And by the way, I knew how big of a

979
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: deal Scoby was when I first got to the league

980
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 4: my rookie year.

981
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: His ego.

982
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: Break the dude who was driving an Aston Martin. Okay,

983
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 4: that's exactly you're driving an Aston Martin. You're doing something right,

984
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: But and without getting into too much details, I actually

985
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 4: prevented somebody from fighting Josh Scoby one time because somebody

986
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: pulled a prank in the locker room and they asked

987
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 4: me who did it, and I knew who it was,

988
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: Josh Scoby, and I wouldn't give him up because I

989
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: knew Scoby was a cat and he was that big

990
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 4: of a deal. So I got in a fight in

991
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 4: the in a cold tub literally my first week of

992
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 4: training camp. Uh, just to defend Josh Scoby's honor and

993
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 4: not put his name out.

994
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: Who'd you fight? We named names on this show, we

995
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 3: named names.

996
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: Who'd you fight?

997
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 5: Uh?

998
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think you guys remember him or not.

999
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: I don't girl, yea who won? He's doing good?

1000
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: Uh you know what, man, let's go and call that

1001
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 4: a drug. It's a cold tub, A cold tub before

1002
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: him throw trying to survive.

1003
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: I hope you were naked, but but yeah, the bottom

1004
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 5: line is the kickers are they're their own breed. In fact,

1005
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 5: speaking of jahway, when I was in Green Bay, McManus

1006
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 5: was there and somebody had told me that the day

1007
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 5: before I got there, the guys in the media were in.

1008
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: The locker room talking about how in the old days.

1009
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 5: Somebody would let him in, or you know, he was

1010
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 5: staying in the locker room too long, or somebody they

1011
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 5: weren't talk about the packers, and he started screaming, all right,

1012
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 5: you guys, get out of here, now, get out of here. Now,

1013
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 5: we've got enough of you, like in a typical kicker manner.

1014
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: And I said, you should have turned to him and said,

1015
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: you're a kicker, crappy you think.

1016
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 5: And then he came over, and I happened to be

1017
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: leaning on the ball you know where they put the

1018
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 5: balls for the kickers come over, and he comes over

1019
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 5: and he just has this kicker jackass mentality about them.

1020
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: You know, it's a good description.

1021
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna sit there thinking, your only job in

1022
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 5: life is to make your damn kicks, and it just

1023
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 5: quit acting like you're somebody special.

1024
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: Now, if I'm not mistaken.

1025
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 5: He had a little reputation to of being kind of

1026
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: a pain in the ass when he was Jacksonville too, right.

1027
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: But remember he got in trouble too later after the fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but.

1028
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: You know, so look, some Scoffy's a good dude. I've

1029
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: know Scooby long Scobe's a good dude. He's one of

1030
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: the good, good guy kickers. My Collins was a good

1031
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: dude too, didn't it.

1032
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 5: But for the most part, kickers have a little bit

1033
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 5: of an attitude.

1034
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: I would say around the NFL.

1035
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: It is you can't make a seventy yard kick without

1036
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: a great operation getting to the kick itself either. So

1037
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: let's point out Ross Mattisik, who's an All Pro and

1038
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl long snapper, not just snapping the ball, run

1039
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: down the field and make a tackle and force a

1040
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: fumble if he needs to. A good loving cooks fantastic.

1041
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: That's why that group, the coaching staff of the special

1042
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: teams is back, because you think is so organized, the

1043
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: coverage game's good. They've got great specialists, and that goes

1044
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: a long way, you know.

1045
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: I think it's something like these past couple years, you

1046
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: haven't really appreciated it because you know, they haven't won

1047
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 4: a lot of games, right, But when it comes down

1048
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: to you know, whether you're the punch your logan Cook

1049
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 4: pinning the ball with in the ten yard line when

1050
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: the game's on the line, or you're kicking that game

1051
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: winning field goal, then people remember it, right And hopefully

1052
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: this year when we're talking about close games. The Jaguars

1053
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: can win some of those, and we're celebrating the special

1054
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: teams a little more because it is rare to have

1055
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 4: I think a puncher like Logan Cook who is so elite,

1056
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: and then you have a guy now with you know this,

1057
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 4: this kicker kicking seventy yards. I mean, he's well on

1058
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: his way to being elite as well, So hopefully they

1059
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 4: can keep that going.

1060
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 5: What about the returner though, that's that's you know, where's

1061
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 5: your where's your returner?

1062
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 3: Parker Washington?

1063
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean and he did a good job

1064
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 5: last year too, So if he ends up being better

1065
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 5: even than he was a year ago, then you have

1066
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 5: all of them.

1067
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: You have all you know, because I think they're they're

1068
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: covered units.

1069
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 5: You saw the Lane kids going to be a hell

1070
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 5: of a player on special teams.

1071
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: That's why they drafted him. So the special team should

1072
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: be fine. You need.

1073
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 5: I don't think you'll be worried about the special teams,

1074
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: but if the special teams is your best unit.

1075
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 3: It is an issue. Let's come back in a moment.

1076
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: Our two of the program is next Fanatics, Fan Questions

1077
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: and more. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home.

1078
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 7: Loans Alignment assignment, getting our cleats in the ground when

1079
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 7: we have a call on both sides of the ball,

1080
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 7: you know, uh fundamentals. We did a forty play alignment

1081
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 7: assignment period of just getting the call, getting our cleats

1082
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 7: in the ground, making loud guttural communication, getting the calls

1083
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 7: in quickly. That was what we were really kind of

1084
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 7: focusing on from an emphasis standpoint.

1085
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: Obviously, some of.

1086
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 7: These guys are gonna be a little bit soler that

1087
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 7: played a lot snaps in the game, so we were

1088
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 7: trying to really hone in on the mind. Got conditioning

1089
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 7: out of it kind of as well. So that was

1090
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 7: kind of the thought of today.

1091
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: That's head coach Liam Cohen, this afternoon or this morning

1092
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: after the morning practice, Welcome back. It's the second hour

1093
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: of Jaguars Happy Hour on Monday, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings.

1094
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 3: Before the game, after the game, and during the game, JP, Shadrick,

1095
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: Pete Prisco, Austin Lane and the Jaguars dropped the first

1096
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: preseason game thirty one to twenty five to the Steelers.

1097
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: Jaguars offense got one drive. The defense also had one drive.

1098
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter, who haven't even really talked about yet. A

1099
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: lot had eighteen snaps, ten on offense, eight on defense.

1100
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: Cam Little hit a seventy yard field goal with room

1101
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 3: to spare at the end of the first half. The

1102
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: Jags do have work to get done this week, getting

1103
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: ready for preseason Week two against the Saints that's coming

1104
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 3: up Sunday at Super Dome, and the Jags are planning

1105
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: on having a scrimmage type feel on Thursday on the

1106
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: practice field. And we got to first look at the

1107
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 3: coaching staff, operation and everything in game for the first

1108
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 3: time and it just felt like there guys that just

1109
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: hearing Liam Cohen today, now we haven't been around him enough,

1110
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: I guess a little bit to really dig into his

1111
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: psyche of what he's feeling in his tone. But he

1112
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 3: felt a little perturbed. I would say it's probably a

1113
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: good word, Pete, coming out of that game with the

1114
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: way they were missing some things alignment assignment, cleats in

1115
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: the ground, can guttural communication or things. Those are the basics.

1116
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: It felt a little perturbed to me. What do you think?

1117
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and rightfully saw you should have been. I mean again,

1118
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: I watched the All twenty two.

1119
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 5: Today and I can't tell you how many ties, particularly defense,

1120
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 5: you see guys spinning around, pointing around, looking around.

1121
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: And there were mistakes on the offense. And I like

1122
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: the fact that.

1123
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: He took accountability for the throat of Brian Thomas play call.

1124
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have called him out a play.

1125
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 5: And you know what, when I was watching that play,

1126
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 5: I said to myself, I said, there's no other option

1127
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 5: there for him to throw the football. It's play action,

1128
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 5: turn around and throw to him. You got to get

1129
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 5: that safety to hold a little bit. He doesn't even

1130
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 5: there's a guy out there, but he's not really running

1131
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 5: around that will threat in the safety. So there's no

1132
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 5: real threat for the safety. So this safety makes a

1133
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 5: bee line right there. I mean, should Brian Thomas have

1134
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 5: caught the ball, probably, And I guess he's dropped some

1135
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 5: in training camp too, which is concerning. But but again,

1136
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: the design of the play wasn't very good. You gotta

1137
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: you know, if they had run they were I think

1138
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 5: they were single high safety and they run, you know,

1139
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: a couple of verticals up the field and make that

1140
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 5: safety pick one, you're gonna get.

1141
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 2: Through the other one.

1142
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 5: So it's just I liked he the fact that he

1143
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 5: took accountability on that play because he kind of.

1144
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: He had no choice.

1145
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: That's the throw on that play, that's the throw, and

1146
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: he made a good throw.

1147
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: He just has to catch it, and he got blasted

1148
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: on him.

1149
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 5: But I think today was a bad day for the

1150
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 5: for the team in terms of ugly from what happened

1151
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 5: the other day.

1152
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Kind of fix it and try and fix it.

1153
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 4: Ye couldn't that throw by Trevor Lawrence still be a

1154
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: little better, Maybe be a little lower to protect his

1155
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 4: wide receiver a little more, because I almost felt like,

1156
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, Brian Thomas Tree had extend himself and it

1157
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 4: left him a little more open to take that big shot.

1158
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe just a little bit better. But again, I

1159
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: think if he peaks to the right when he opens,

1160
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 5: you know, once he does that play fake, he turns

1161
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 5: back around. If he just peaks for a second to

1162
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: the right and comes back, he holds that safety for

1163
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 5: a second because there is a guy out there, but

1164
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 5: he doesn't really threaten nobody. Still, if you look that way,

1165
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 5: you might hold him. That guy made a bee line

1166
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 5: right as soon as he turned around. He made a

1167
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: bee line for him. So, yeah, there was a bunch

1168
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 5: of things that play there. The throw wasn't perfect, probably

1169
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: should have been caught still, but no matter what happens,

1170
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 5: he was getting hit.

1171
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: I don't care if he put the if he put

1172
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: it right right where it's supposed to be, he's going

1173
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: to get hit.

1174
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: Pete. To your point about BTJ and practice, it does

1175
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: feel like that a little bit to me also, And

1176
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: some of the practices there's the ball in the ground

1177
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: a lot. Sometimes he's a couple of days, but so far,

1178
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: when the lights have turned on, he's proven that he

1179
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: can turn into a productive, worry about it, solid player? Right,

1180
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: So how concern? You're not? None? Zero?

1181
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 5: But like the day I was there, I remember I

1182
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: talked to a couple of coaches and they were talking

1183
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 5: about how they had been winning fifty to fifty.

1184
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: Balls on offense.

1185
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: And it's fair that's.

1186
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 2: That's a concern.

1187
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, there's concern, But for him, what's the lights

1188
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: go on?

1189
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Not worried about it at all.

1190
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 3: Well, maybe it's because the defensive backs are improved this year, Austin,

1191
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: So you look at it from the defensive perspective.

1192
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, that could be the case, but

1193
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 4: now the defensive backs, I think it's a giant question

1194
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 4: Mark as well, because Tyson Campbell maybe out for a

1195
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: little bit. We're not sure the extent of the injury,

1196
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 4: because once again, we're in the preseason mode, right, so

1197
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 4: let's keep things under wraps a little bit to the

1198
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: regular season to find out what's going on there. And

1199
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, you know, with that preseason game

1200
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 4: against the Steelers, I came away thinking, Travis Hunter is

1201
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: your best cornerback. He's your best cornerback that you have

1202
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: right now. And I get it wasn't a flawless performance,

1203
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 4: right He had that mistackle, maybe one of those you know,

1204
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: welcome to the NFL rookie kind of plays.

1205
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: But but there's somebody who's behind him to clean it up.

1206
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: It doesn't break the corner.

1207
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Well, he was you know what I here right though,

1208
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: But you know what I loved about it. He got

1209
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: up and he was he banged his helmet, he was

1210
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: mad at himself for missing that tack.

1211
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but he is their best corner So go aheady, No,

1212
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 5: I was.

1213
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: Gonna say, you're You're right.

1214
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: Campbell has had a great From everything I've heard, he

1215
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 5: has been outstanding in training camp.

1216
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 2: They were raving about him. He wasn't very good the

1217
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: other night though, Yeah, and he wasn't great that night.

1218
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's been really good in camp though, too.

1219
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: Is Jordan Lewis.

1220
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: He has been Yeah, And Jordan Lewis is kind of

1221
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: but you know he's he's playing that spot, he's playing

1222
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: that nickel, right, So and then you have Jerryon Jones

1223
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 4: the other side, who was playing nickel last year and

1224
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: now is I mean he's played cornerback before obviously, right,

1225
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: but like he's he's asking to do something different this year. So,

1226
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: I mean, if these are the conversations that we're having,

1227
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 4: and we're not sure how long Tyson can AM's going

1228
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 4: to be out for.

1229
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's a couple of weeks, but we.

1230
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 4: Don't know right now, and he's had a history absolutely

1231
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 4: of injuries. I mean, I understand that the m O

1232
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 4: right now is to get Travis Hunter all the reps

1233
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 4: on offense and then work him in in the defense.

1234
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: But if I'm coach camp right now, I'm thinking, well,

1235
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 4: you guys got Park of Washington over there. He looked

1236
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: pretty good. He's having a great training camp. Can we

1237
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 4: get Travis Hunter a little more on defense please? Because

1238
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: he's the best one that we have right now at corner.

1239
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: See, I think Travis Hunter is going to play every

1240
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 5: snap on corner. I think that's their plan, and no

1241
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 5: matter what, that's their plan.

1242
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 2: I didn't believe that at first.

1243
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 5: I thought, but they were trying to get him up

1244
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 5: to speed on offense because it's harder to learn how

1245
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 5: to play the offense. And then he's going to be

1246
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: the starting corner. I think their ideal scenario would be Campbell,

1247
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 5: Hunter and Lewis as their starting corners, and then he'll

1248
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 5: spot him in for forty snaps or whatever on offense

1249
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 5: or thirty whatever it is on offense, because they're a

1250
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: better offense when he's on offense too, And so that's ideally.

1251
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: But you're right, he's their best. He's he has the

1252
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 2: chance to be an elite cover corner in the NFL.

1253
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 5: Ball skills are amazing, and so you need that more

1254
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 5: than you need a wide receiver.

1255
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 2: You mentioned Parker Washington.

1256
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 5: So I think he plays every snap on defense and

1257
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 5: forty snaps thirty to forty snaps on offense.

1258
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: That's what I think.

1259
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 3: Do you think that's adjusted over time? Peter has that

1260
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: kind of been the plan for them all along, they

1261
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: just kind of kept it under wraps.

1262
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: I think that was the plan all along.

1263
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 5: I think I think you play him on offense to

1264
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 5: learn the offense and get comfortable with the offense because

1265
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: it's harder to do. I mean, Austin is a defensive guy.

1266
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 5: I didn't want to hear that, but that's the reality.

1267
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 3: Of it, right, Yeah, you're breaking any news man defense.

1268
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: It's cool. It was like this, hey, But to.

1269
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: Be fair, though, I had a higher Wonderlic score than

1270
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 4: We're all good. Yeah, higher than Tim Tebow. So to

1271
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: take that for how you won, well.

1272
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: So did that stay over here in the corner that's

1273
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 5: moving That had a higher score too.

1274
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: My trash can over here?

1275
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: And twenty two, Pete, you hit on twenty to Okay, okay,

1276
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 4: I got you.

1277
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 2: I got what was t Bo's.

1278
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: I think you got a twenty one. I think you

1279
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: had twenty one.

1280
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: But when you get like twenty for signing your name.

1281
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 4: Something like that school name, you know, that's a that's

1282
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: a quick ten, you know what I'm saying, A quick

1283
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 4: ten name and stuff.

1284
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I think I think he's going to

1285
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 5: be a cornerback and a good one.

1286
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: And I think if Campbell could play like he's played

1287
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: in training.

1288
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 3: Can't be.

1289
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: Let's take the contract out.

1290
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 5: Of the equation, okay, because that's they gave him way

1291
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 5: too much money.

1292
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: Take the contract out of the equation.

1293
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 5: He could be a good corner, Lewis could be a

1294
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 5: good nickel, and Hunter could be a great corner.

1295
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: So that's good. You're good there.

1296
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 5: But with now, if he's not there now, it becomes

1297
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 5: an issue if he's not there for a while, because

1298
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 5: who starts there Jerry and Jones.

1299
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, with you, but to play, you know, like

1300
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: the other side of this whole thing. Liam Cohen was

1301
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 4: brought here for a reason, and it was to help

1302
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: out Trevor Lawrence. So do you mean to tell me

1303
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 4: that Liam Cohen is gonna be like, yeah, let's go

1304
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: have our second pick overall, Let's go have him play

1305
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 4: defense and let's go sprinkle on an offense every once

1306
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 4: in a while.

1307
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: Or is Liam.

1308
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: Like all the plays all the players.

1309
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: It's I think that's crazy. If that sounds I think

1310
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 5: he is. That's the they want to sure.

1311
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and going around the league and

1312
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Speaker 2: talking to players.

1313
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Speaker 5: When I talked to him about it, they all say

1314
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 5: it's not the endurance is unreal, they say, as the

1315
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Speaker 5: endurance of a marathon runner.

1316
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: You know, Like I said, the day I was.

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00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: There, it was one hundred and one and I actually

1318
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 5: sat down and interviewed him and he wasn't even breathing hard.

1319
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Speaker 2: He had practiced on both sides.

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Speaker 5: He had done you know, the stuff door and special

1321
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 5: teams when he was usually standing around doing stuff on defense.

1322
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: And I go, hot enough for you, he goes at

1323
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: one bad. I'm like, you kidding me.

1324
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 5: I love the heat, but it was hot that day,

1325
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Speaker 5: so I think he can do it.

1326
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: But the question players asked me.

1327
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 5: And you know this and being a play well his

1328
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 5: body hold up not from an endurance standpoint, but from

1329
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Speaker 5: a physical standpoint.

1330
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's hard to fathom because

1331
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 4: we always talk about that wall that you know that

1332
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 4: the first year guys hit the rookie wall, because you

1333
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 4: essentially go from playing the college game, then you play

1334
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 4: in a senior Bowl or whatever. Then you prep yourself

1335
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: with the combine, you prep yourself for your pro days.

1336
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of time to just rest

1337
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: and acclimate and get ready for the football season.

1338
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Speaker 3: It's just you go here.

1339
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 4: Then you go here, then you go here, so you

1340
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: have zero time to rest and to expect a first

1341
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 4: year guy, even you know, if he is the athletic

1342
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: freak that Travis Hunter is, to come in here and go, okay,

1343
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: you know you did you step in Colorado? You know,

1344
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 4: you get rid for the PROTA and everything, you haven't

1345
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 4: stopped training since, and now you go play both sides

1346
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: of the football for the whole time.

1347
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 3: It's a lot on that. You know that that guy's play.

1348
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: And I think I would err on the side of

1349
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 4: caution more than I would just say, well, okay, man,

1350
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: let's throw it in the water and see what.

1351
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: You can do.

1352
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 5: You know, if somebody asked me the other day, they said,

1353
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: what if he plays both sides of the ball for

1354
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 5: the next three years or two years, and then he

1355
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 5: get the year four and it's time to redo his contract?

1356
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: Be his agent?

1357
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you negotiate that deal?

1358
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 5: You know what I said, I said, in year four,

1359
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 5: he starts playing one side of the ball.

1360
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: You know that. You know that's gonna happen.

1361
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 5: You know that happens right whatever year is negotiation deal

1362
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 5: is he's going to play one side of the ball.

1363
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: He's not going to play both.

1364
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you limit the wear and tear. You pick one side,

1365
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: You pick the one that pays one.

1366
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 5: If he's a great place, say he plays every snap

1367
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 5: for two years or close to it, and he's an

1368
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 5: All Pro corner in year two and he's a sixty

1369
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 5: five catch, thousand yard eight touchdown receiver, negotiate that contract.

1370
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Speaker 5: I mean, because if you're the agent, you're paying him

1371
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: as a Pro Bowl corner of heighs as high as

1372
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 5: you cossibly can.

1373
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: They're all Pro corner by the way.

1374
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 5: Let's sprinkle in that he's one of the better young

1375
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 5: receivers in the league too, and negotiate that deal like

1376
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 5: guy's gonna make a boatload of money.

1377
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 4: I mean, you're essentially paying for two players. Like if

1378
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 4: I'm realistically, if if i'm his agent, and you know,

1379
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 4: assuming that he has a you know, an all Pro

1380
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 4: year at corner and he has a decent season at

1381
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 4: wide receiver, I'm going, Okay, well, let's go and reset

1382
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 4: the market at uh at cornerback. All right, we got

1383
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 4: that done, and then let's go ahead and make top

1384
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 4: you know, eight top five money at wide receiver. Cool

1385
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 4: sounds gonna add those contracts together and we'll see you guys.

1386
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: Listen. So you're almost in quarterback territory at that point, right, Oh, you.

1387
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: Would be would almost you would be? Yes, you and

1388
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: Dan Court.

1389
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 3: Fifty five a year, I mean sixty whatever it is

1390
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: at that point. Yeah, and then and then you know,

1391
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm excited for two.

1392
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm excited for the next crop of college kids that

1393
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 4: are coming out now that are watching Travis Hunter do

1394
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 4: his thing. Because you want to talk about the transport

1395
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: portal and everything. How many college athletes are gonna go, Oh,

1396
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: if I'm coming to Alabama, you only gotta be playing

1397
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 4: wide receiver, not corner. Yeah, I'm gonna transfer to some

1398
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 4: place house where they want me to play both spots.

1399
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: Like that's going to be a trend now too. Just

1400
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 4: wait and see.

1401
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: The only thing is it's so hard to do. And

1402
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: again you go to you go to the endurance and

1403
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: he did it at altitude. I mean, that's incredile, that's incredible.

1404
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: You played in Denver. How it's hard to I lived

1405
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: there for a year.

1406
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 5: I remember one time the first time I moved to Denver,

1407
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 5: I was playing basketball and I started going, I'm like,

1408
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 5: what is this And it's just and so for him

1409
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 5: to be able to do that at altitude and now

1410
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 5: to be able to do it and heat the way he's.

1411
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: Doing it, there's a special kid. But again, his body

1412
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: isn't big.

1413
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 5: He's not a big kid, and so you worry about

1414
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 5: body breaking down more than lungs breaking down.

1415
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: Pete, were you good at basketball?

1416
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 5: Yes, very good as members though that used to work

1417
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 5: in the in the with the Jaguars, remember Lorenzo.

1418
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, works in Miami. Now works for the Dolphins.

1419
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: Him and Ryan Robinson.

1420
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 5: Remember they had that basket inside the facility there and

1421
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 5: they Zoe talked a good game, and I go go ahead,

1422
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 5: we'll go shoot.

1423
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: I shot him. Both out shot shot their lights. Zoe

1424
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: would do that. And by the way, you guys appreciate

1425
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 2: this since you played with the Boston the other day.

1426
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 5: When I when I first went on my training camp

1427
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 5: tour two weeks ago, was at the Dolphins. I was

1428
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 5: had Tyreek hill on and I looked at him and

1429
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 5: during the interview, I said, well, you look like.

1430
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: You leaned up a little bit.

1431
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 5: He goes, Oh yeah, man, he goes, he goes. When

1432
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 5: I was here for you know, in Kansas City, I

1433
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 5: was one eighty eight. When I came here, I started

1434
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 5: feeling like Maurice Jones drew. Maurice is catching strays.

1435
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

1436
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 5: And so then after I was done, I asked him,

1437
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 5: I said, why did you think you shot at Maurice?

1438
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: He said, when he was a kid. I guess Tyree

1439
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: grew up in Georgia, somewhere close. He was a Jaguars.

1440
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 5: He followed the Jaguars, and he remembered jumping Maurice Jones Drew.

1441
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 2: Running the football, and so that's why he took the shot.

1442
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: By the way, Maurice was here for the scrimmage last week,

1443
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 3: was in town. I saw him in the hallway.

1444
01:02:58,640 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: I love Maurice's.

1445
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 5: Maurice is one of those guys that back in the day,

1446
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 5: he always gave you. When I come into the locker room,

1447
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 5: he'd always give me crap somehow. Oh, you play the game,

1448
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 5: you know back when I go and I give him,

1449
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 5: you know the line I give him.

1450
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm not a five star chef, but I know it

1451
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: tastes good to you know.

1452
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: All right, let's come back. We've got to keep it

1453
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 3: real when we come because we've been faking it the

1454
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,959
Speaker 3: whole time. I guess. So the first hour. Uh no,

1455
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: no sponsor.

1456
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 5: But we got all that wine from the other guy

1457
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, so we got that calling

1458
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 5: for him.

1459
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: Didn't Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah, Bobby didn't make it.

1460
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 3: By the way, he's he's years ago. Apparently I didn't

1461
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: realize the guy was dead. I was asking for wine.

1462
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 3: He's been dead for years.

1463
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: Well, somebody's in family still owns it. So Bobby Junior.

1464
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: Mate Robert Jr. We're back in a moment. We've got

1465
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: to keep it real when we come back. It's Jaguars

1466
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back. It

1467
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: is Jaguars Happy our first Monday show of the season.

1468
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Austin Lane in with us for

1469
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five campaign here on Mondays, recapping the

1470
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 3: Jaguars lost to the Steelers in preseason Week one on

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 3: ten today XL, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. It

1472
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: is time for keeping it Real, presented by Nobody. Jaguars

1473
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: Defensive performance is what we're going with on Saturday night.

1474
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: Steelers quarterbacks listen to these stats. Pete Austin, Mason Rudolph

1475
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: nine of ten eighty four yards and a touchdown. Skyler

1476
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 3: Thompson twenty of twenty eight two hundred and thirty three

1477
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: yards and three passing touchdowns. How concerned are you with

1478
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 3: the defense after that performance and moving forward, Austin Aaron Rodgers,

1479
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: better watch out. Let's keep it real right now.

1480
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: No, I mean I'm a little concerned about it because

1481
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 4: you know, you had your starters out there going against

1482
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: a lot of the twos. Now granted, the Steels offensive

1483
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 4: line played that opening drive and everything for I think

1484
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 4: at least a quarter, but you're going against skill guys

1485
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 4: who are backups, right, and that can't happen. So I

1486
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 4: get it's one preseason game. We're still learning the defense

1487
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 4: and everything. But like we talked about to open the

1488
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 4: show today, we can't You can't have guys looking back confused,

1489
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 4: not being lined up properly, because that's coaching, Like, that's

1490
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 4: getting guys prepared to play the game. You know, skill

1491
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 4: is gonna always win the day, and I get that,

1492
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 4: but you have to set your guys up for success.

1493
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 4: And I think there was a lot of guys that

1494
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 4: were open, you know on Saturday that should have been

1495
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 4: that wide open.

1496
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 5: You know, looking at watching the game and seeing Anthony

1497
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 5: Campanelli's face, I thought somebody it looked like somebody told

1498
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 5: him that Italian food stinks or something.

1499
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: You know, it's That's what.

1500
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 5: It looked like to me, because I've actually had a

1501
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 5: conversation with Anthony about Italian food in Jacksonville. Because he's

1502
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 5: gotta look look, go around some good ones. I can

1503
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 5: tell you that.

1504
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 2: But it's there. You got to look for it. But

1505
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 2: it was.

1506
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 5: It was not a good look, and it's supposed to

1507
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 5: be a new look defense.

1508
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: They didn't show anything again, I have a heart. Let's

1509
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 2: go back to the touchdown you just showed the Washington.

1510
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the big tight end from Jordan.

1511
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: That was they were in his own and it looks

1512
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: like a Loulo con should.

1513
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: Get a little more depth there because there's nobody threatening

1514
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 5: him underneath, right, that's what it should be. You look

1515
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 5: at the end zone shot of that. There's no threat

1516
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 5: for him underneath on that play.

1517
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: Because nobody's running around underneath.

1518
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 2: Correct, So there is there's nobody there.

1519
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 5: He's got to get more depth on that to make

1520
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 5: that a tougher throw and allow Campbell to come over

1521
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 5: and maybe make a play on it.

1522
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, you see what I mean. That's not that's

1523
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: not it. It's he doesn't get enough depth there. I

1524
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: don't think he's kind of frozen for a second. There's

1525
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: no I get it.

1526
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 5: If there's a threat there, he's got to play it.

1527
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 5: But there was no threat there.

1528
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 4: Well, and it's wild too because I still haven't seen

1529
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: the All twenty two yet. I still have to get

1530
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: Pete's password for that one. But you know, when I

1531
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 4: was looking back, like I couldn't tell if they're in

1532
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: a cover three with the linebackers and a cover four

1533
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 4: in the back end, Like it looked like they're in

1534
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 4: a different zone coverages in terms of the safeties and

1535
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 4: in terms.

1536
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: Of the linebackers, which could be the case some teams

1537
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 3: do run that.

1538
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 2: Now that looks like three. That looks like it's covered three.

1539
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 5: That sample's playing play and he has no threat on him,

1540
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 5: so he has to come over and make a play

1541
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 5: on that.

1542
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but what the case may be, like you

1543
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 4: know Hindsight's twenty twenty right, was it the right call

1544
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: right there? Probably not? But once again, if that's gonna

1545
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: be the case, you gotta get pressure, and I get

1546
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: you're not gonna blitz a lot in terms of the preseason,

1547
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 4: A lot of teams don't. It's more of just the

1548
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: meat and potatoes. But this is where that interior pressure

1549
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 4: it has to make a difference because the ball's coming

1550
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 4: out quickly.

1551
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 5: And some of those touchdowns where against guys that aren't

1552
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 5: going to be around, you know that, So you gotta

1553
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 5: put you know, so you got to take those from

1554
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 5: what they are. But again, it was sloppy. It wasn't

1555
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 5: it wasn't crisp, it wasn't sloppy. I mean, Josh heinz

1556
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 5: Allen and Dravon Walker didn't exactly win, you know. So

1557
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 5: again it's the preseason. There's if you're Josh heinz Allen,

1558
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 5: what's your motivation in the preseason?

1559
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 2: Seriously?

1560
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: Stay healthy?

1561
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, right, that's your only motivation, you

1562
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 5: Travon Walker, your only motivation is to make it out

1563
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 5: of the preseason, take a few hits, and get to

1564
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 5: the preseason.

1565
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 2: Get yourself ready. So I don't read.

1566
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 5: A lot, and across the board, not just in Jacksonville,

1567
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 5: but across the board, I don't read. I've been around

1568
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,639
Speaker 5: this thing for so long. I don't read anything into

1569
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 5: the preseason.

1570
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 2: Now.

1571
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 5: So back in the day, if you played a half

1572
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 5: with the starters versus starters, and you game like preseason,

1573
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 5: game number three used to almost.

1574
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 2: Be like a game for a half.

1575
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 5: You game planned, you did some things, your starters played

1576
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 5: against their starters, You came out of the halftime because

1577
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 5: they wanted you to feel what it's like to come

1578
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 5: out of halftime for And then now it's not close

1579
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 5: to that. So you can't get any gage in this

1580
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 5: at all.

1581
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 3: So then, Pete, what are we talking about here for

1582
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: game two? In game three?

1583
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: I mean, are we satisfied with what we see in

1584
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 4: a it's the preseason.

1585
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: It's just keep these guys healthy. We don't need to

1586
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 3: see anymore or do you want to see?

1587
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 5: You got to play and not be sloppy. Now, whether

1588
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 5: you dominate or whatever you do, that's a whole different issue.

1589
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: But you can't have guys.

1590
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 5: It's the same as it was a year ago. Remember JP,

1591
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 5: all they did was look around. Yeah, I sted coverages

1592
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 5: and look around and what are they doing?

1593
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: And so I think that has to be better. You

1594
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: have to the mechanism of the game has to be better.

1595
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 5: The results take it for what it's worth, but the

1596
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 5: mechanism of the game has to be better this time.

1597
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 3: And we'll see. You know how the schedule this week

1598
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 3: affects that too. They're going to have a scrimmage, they're

1599
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,480
Speaker 3: saying on Thursday on the practice.

1600
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: When it's a scrimmage, nobody's tackling anybody. It's shrimmage.

1601
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 3: Okay, Well maybe they can know where they are in

1602
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 3: the right place in a scrimmag.

1603
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 5: So what you're saying is if they have some kind

1604
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 5: of scrimmage on Thursday, then there's an impact.

1605
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 2: Who plays on Sunday?

1606
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 3: Does it impact the reps? And I think that Liam

1607
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 3: Cohen said that today. Hey, we're gonna wait until after

1608
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 3: all this stuff happens to really determine that. After Thursday's practice, you.

1609
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 5: Know, more and more guys played in Week one than

1610
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 5: have been played in this across the league. If you

1611
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 5: notice that, Yeah, Kansas City always plays how long.

1612
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 3: Did How long did Mahomes play? How long did Mahomes?

1613
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: He played a couple series Cincinnati played.

1614
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 5: They started slowly every year every year they usually don't

1615
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 5: play them, but they start slowly, So he played them.

1616
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 5: I just think you guy's got to hit You know

1617
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 5: that Austin guy's got to hit. If you go through,

1618
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 5: if you don't play it all in the preseason, that

1619
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 5: means the first time you actually tackle somebody is in

1620
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 5: week one from the last time you played a game

1621
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 5: that mattered.

1622
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 2: That's a long time not to hit somebody.

1623
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 3: Tackle somebody, No, without a doubt like that. It's just it.

1624
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: It's a different it's a different mindset when you're in

1625
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: that game, right well, when you I think it's a

1626
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 4: preseason game, right that the crowd's not at full effect

1627
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: and everything. Maybe the energy from the opposition isn't it

1628
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 4: to the full effect, but it's still different being.

1629
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 3: Under those bright lights. And you know, I.

1630
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 4: Would like to see these guys play a little more.

1631
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 4: I really went and once again, we'll see how this

1632
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: quote unquote scrimmage goes. I know they have the inner

1633
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 4: squad whatever practice with the Miami Dolphins.

1634
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 3: Yes, one day, which is one which is.

1635
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 4: Crazy that so it's only one day, by the way,

1636
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: because I mean when I played, it was a full week.

1637
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 3: You know, I had to see these.

1638
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 4: Guys in Atlanta because there's always Atlanta Falcons, so it

1639
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 4: was almost like a big time like you know, back.

1640
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 5: In Miami and Miami Austin went to Chicago to go

1641
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 5: with the Bears.

1642
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 2: Listen to their schedule.

1643
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 5: They went to Chicago, worked out with the Bears on Tuesday,

1644
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 5: worked out with them on Wednesday, and Thursday, stayed on

1645
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 5: or wait was it?

1646
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 4: No?

1647
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 5: They went on Wednesday, worked out with them on Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

1648
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 5: had day off, then played on Sunday.

1649
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 2: Now they go to Detroit. You're go to work out

1650
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: with the Lions for.

1651
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 5: A day, stay there and play the preseason game on Saturday,

1652
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 5: and then fly home and they're gonna work out with

1653
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 5: the Jaguars.

1654
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: So they call it the team bonding thing or whatever.

1655
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: But still that's.

1656
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 4: There's like a team like tuggle war. There's gonna be

1657
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 4: like charades. I'm sure they'll be.

1658
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: Playing kind of potato Potato sack race.

1659
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 5: Stunk a year ago, and your coach let the guys

1660
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 5: get out of control.

1661
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: He has to try and rein him in. That's exactly

1662
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 2: what that is.

1663
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 3: Can he do it down there? By the way, So

1664
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't.

1665
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 5: It's like if you I don't have kids, but I

1666
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 5: understand if you have kids, once you if you try

1667
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 5: and discipline them after they run wild for four years,

1668
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 5: you can't do it.

1669
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: It's just not happening.

1670
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, So I started think that one because I

1671
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 4: have a ten year old. We start out one years old.

1672
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 4: Oh he's crying, Hey, let's go ahead, and goes down

1673
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 4: and you know, go in the corner. There's time out

1674
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 4: a little bit one year old, not really obviously, so.

1675
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 3: I was choking. Man, service could be listening to this.

1676
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Put him in the corner at his

1677
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 3: bast yea with a dunce cap on. Yeah great, and

1678
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: you know you.

1679
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 5: Can't even remember it.

1680
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: But but I guarantee, like and I myself to blame

1681
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: for this, that the first I've never I should say this.

1682
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 4: I've done it one time where I've actually cussed in

1683
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: front of my son and he was probably five or

1684
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 4: six years old, and I dropped it. It was an

1685
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 4: f bomb. It was a giant one. But I was

1686
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 4: watching Blake Bortles throw his second pick six of the game,

1687
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: and I just I let one, going, what what the

1688
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 4: bleep are you doing? And then I had my wife

1689
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 4: at the time go, what do you what do you

1690
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 4: what are you saying? Like it's not my fault, it's

1691
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 4: the second pick six, Like this is justified, Like anybody

1692
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 4: would would say this and play Blake. Yeah, so as

1693
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 4: soon as he's in school by Lake, first day of school,

1694
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 4: fifth grade, as soon as that first you know that

1695
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 4: curse word comes out, I'm blaming Blake bort I'm gonna

1696
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 4: call it Blake Bortles and say you need to go

1697
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 4: talk to this teacher man because I'm not taking you know,

1698
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: the bullet for this one.

1699
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1700
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: I just the thing about a cursing. You gotta be

1701
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: careful around kids because they'll pick it up.

1702
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: And run with him sponges.

1703
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: Where did you hear that? My dad?

1704
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:56,480
Speaker 3: My dad?

1705
01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 2: But back to the jedguars, I think they need to

1706
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: play too. I think this is a young team. They

1707
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: need to play.

1708
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 5: You can't be worried about injuries. You just can't play

1709
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 5: football that way. Well, I mean, don't you think they'll

1710
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 5: play this week?

1711
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 3: I hope so. But they gotta play a little right.

1712
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. And I'm not sure if

1713
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 3: this works in locker rooms.

1714
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 4: And I feel like this was happening with the Bengals

1715
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 4: because if any quarterback didn't have to play in the preseason,

1716
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 4: I feel like it's Joe Burrow. But I feel like

1717
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor asked Joe Burrow, Hey, how are you feeling

1718
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 4: you want to get some reps in I think Joe

1719
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 4: Burrow said, yeah, you know, let's shake some of the

1720
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 4: rust off, give me a couple of series here, and

1721
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 4: let's go from there. I hope there's some consultation with

1722
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 4: you know, some of the leaders of this team to

1723
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 4: be like, how are you guys feeling where you guys at?

1724
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 4: And I hope it's truthful and being hey, I think

1725
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 4: we need a little more to kind of showcase what

1726
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 4: we can do.

1727
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they need it, and I think they

1728
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 5: should play and then you don't play them in the

1729
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 5: final preseason game.

1730
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I would do, easy enough.

1731
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 5: Then you play, then you play all you play the

1732
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 5: guys that are going to be on stock market and

1733
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 5: not working in wall streets.

1734
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 4: Well, especially with but because Mammy's coming to town too, right,

1735
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,640
Speaker 4: So you're gonna go to Miami, but you're gonna have

1736
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 4: that one practice.

1737
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 3: There, right. So in theory, if if they weren't.

1738
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 2: Practice will be a lot you get more. Veterans get more.

1739
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 5: Out of those practices than they do at a preseason

1740
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 5: game because they get more reps.

1741
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: Like I've talked to many a quarterback.

1742
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 5: I remember Philip Rivers telling me, look, I go work

1743
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 5: out with the team I'm getting. You know all these

1744
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 5: plays that I don't get preseason games is only played

1745
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 5: like five or you know, ten plays or something at

1746
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 5: the most, so it's much more valuable. So you're right,

1747
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 5: I doubt they'll play week in the final week, so

1748
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 5: you got to play them in this one.

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Speaker 3: in a Moment, We've got fanatics, fan questions. It's Pete's

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 3: favorite segment. Love it.

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01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 4: Are these gonna be fight related to because I'm not

1756
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: paying anybody bet If they've lost a bet on me,

1757
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 4: that's not my problem.

1758
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 3: That's a good idea. Actually, we might have to start

1759
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 3: doing fight questions for Austin. If I lost you guys

1760
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 3: any money, I apologize. Back in the moment, it is

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings. You know

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Speaker 3: it's it is intentional. When we have so many playmakers,

1763
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 3: you want to get.

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01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 9: Them all involved and early and let guys get the

1765
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 9: rock and do something with us.

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Speaker 3: So I think that is intentional for sure.

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Speaker 9: And then there's times where the ball just kind of

1768
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 9: finds finds guys more than others. I think in games

1769
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 9: like this, obviously you want to see you want to

1770
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 9: spread the ball around, You want to get guys touches,

1771
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 9: get them going, you kind of see what see what

1772
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 9: we can do.

1773
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 3: But I thought the guy's a nice job.

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01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 9: Obviously we had the one drive, so it's hard to

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01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 9: really evaluate beyond that. But yeah, I thought the guys

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01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 9: did a goo job when their number was called.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, after the game in the locker room,

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Speaker 3: welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, our second Hour,

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Speaker 3: presented by mister Chubby's Wings. By the way, they brought

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01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: Chubby style wings, chicken palm sandwiches, and pretzel bites with cheese.

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01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 2: Austin, you train all the time, so do you eat

1782
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: anything like that ever?

1783
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, man, I can have a cheat me

1784
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 4: every once in a while, you know, I can have

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01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 4: a little affair meal if I want to.

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01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to have some today.

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01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 2: I think so delicious training.

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01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 5: If you weren't training, would you be you would be

1789
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 5: eating it though, No matter what, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Pete, The way I look at it is,

1791
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 4: if I'm training hard enough, I can eat whatever I want, right,

1792
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 4: So I'll just burn the calories in the gym.

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 3: I feel the same way. There we go, man, That's

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01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: what I do. That's what you got to do.

1795
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: You're trading the fight. You're trading the.

1796
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 3: Fight all No, No, I'm not fighting battle.

1797
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 2: Get a beaten.

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 3: I'm battling myself, Pete.

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01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 5: Okay, it's always a battle, Jap.

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Speaker 2: It's always about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean, am I allowed to have some of that?

1802
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: I'm not like, Okay, well, I'm kind of like a prelancer.

1803
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: I feel like I don't know if I'm allowed to

1804
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 4: have that or not. The show about a collared shirt too,

1805
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 4: the second collared shirt that I've worn in like the

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01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 4: past couple of days.

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Speaker 3: You're already trying to cut players. You can go eat

1808
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 3: whatever the hell you want.

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01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 5: No, But I do like the fact that when JP

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01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 5: opens the show and he talks about Austin Lane being

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 5: here for twenty and twenty five, are you saying he

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 5: might not be back in twenty and twenty six and

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01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 5: then we're not.

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Speaker 3: Even done VP Junior Man Pete by EVP Pete. We're

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01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 3: all day to day Tony, what's okay? Come on, Pete, we.

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: Are but we're day to day in life till again day.

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Speaker 5: But but but the way you say that, I'm like, Okay,

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01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 5: he's here for twenty twenty.

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01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 3: I was not involved in you even.

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 2: Said you haven't even a half hour in and he's saying.

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01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 4: Hey, man, it is Hey, maybe he's got some high

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 4: hopes for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I have high hopes for you. I

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01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: have high hosts. I like it for here.

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 4: Now I know the other people in town that man,

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01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 4: I like to hear that you say, you know that

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 4: the high hopes thing, because I have other engagements as well.

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Speaker 3: Who I can't. I don't think we're Are you allowed

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Speaker 3: to say it or not? Your your brother John's Trent? Yeah,

1830
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 3: rhymes of trouble with a different first letter. And I

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 3: don't mean Balky.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, who's who's Trent? Balky? We don't know him?

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: Make it noted. The first person to say that name

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 3: on the show was Austin that it was going to

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01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 3: go there.

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Speaker 4: I don't get an email, man, I don't know's you

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 4: can say.

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01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 2: You can say whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 5: I blistered him last year so bad, well, last year,

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01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 5: the year before the year before before that.

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01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: So uh, look, you got questions, don't you.

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01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's get to him now, Pete you ready,

1843
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,400
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Speaker 3: Here's the best we've come up with tonight at Samuel

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01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 3: du Well, Are you worried Hunter didn't look his dynamic

1849
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: out there as he did in college? I worry his

1850
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 3: athleticism won't translate to the NFL.

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01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: Do you think it's all stupidity, stupidity stupidity?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think on offense, what people expected

1853
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,440
Speaker 4: him to be like the next Tyreek kill in preseason

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01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 4: game number one and break every single tackle like, yeah,

1855
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: it's the NFL, right, You're gonna have to learn how

1856
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 4: to navigate, how to wiggle and everything. But I thought

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 4: on defense he looked fine, and on offense he'll learn

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Speaker 4: as he goes.

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Speaker 3: And Fred made a good point.

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Speaker 5: Say this, that little short pass that he caught, if

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01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 5: he hadn't slipped, he was popping out the side to

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01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 5: get the big play down the sideline.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's there.

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01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 3: And that was my point quick Fred Taylor was with

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01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: Fred the other night and he said, you know what,

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01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: maybe that's a cleat issue. There was no He did

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01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 3: it a couple of times, actually fell out of his cleat,

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01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 3: so maybe that's an adjustment to be made moving ahead.

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01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 3: Most athletics played for him was the jump when he

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01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: hit the kicker after the field goal. It was like,

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01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: could have heard of that?

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Speaker 2: Man, It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: But if again, when you watch the twenty two, if

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01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 5: he pops out there, he's down the sideline for a

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 5: huge play, maybe even score.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's it's common. It'll be fine. It'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: Next question, at no a way, how much improvement can

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01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: we expect in terms of physicality of play. I saw

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: Steelers backups pushing our starters around Austin.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I hope it improves yet, because I noticed

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01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 4: a little bit of the same thing, and it's kind

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 4: of deceiving in the box score a little bit because

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01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 4: if you see like what the Steelers are rushing with

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01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 4: their you know, their starting guys.

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Speaker 3: It was few and far between.

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01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think in terms of mentality, once again,

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01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 4: I've said it, so the Coles come home, it starts

1888
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 4: in the interior, and I think the interior's got to

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 4: step it up a little bit.

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01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, we.

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01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 5: Talked about the interior of that defensive line. But Steelers

1892
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 5: have had problems running the ball. You know that they

1893
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 5: average four point their identity is to run the ball.

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01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 5: They average four point one per rush last year as

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01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 5: a team, and they're not a great physical run team anymore.

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01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 5: So I think it was You're right, it's a little misleading,

1897
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 5: but they dominated the offensively.

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01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: That's that's what you don't want to see.

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01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 5: You want to see a defense dominate an offense, and

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Speaker 5: they didn't dominate.

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Speaker 3: Them at all. Next question is about that defense at

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01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: coach Ripley one. For those who aren't jumping in the

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01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,719
Speaker 3: Saint John's River, what are Austin's expectations with the defense

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01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: and the coverage being soft and or the lack of

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01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,879
Speaker 3: pass rush. Did we blitz or stunt or just play bass?

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01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 4: I mean, for the most part, you saw a lot

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01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 4: of just bass. Right, this is preseason game number one.

1908
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 4: You're not gonna see a lot of blitzer. You're gonna

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01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 4: see the meat and potatoes. But I think going forward,

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01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 4: if what you have right now on that defensive line

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01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 4: is what you have, you know, unless Eric Armstead comes back,

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 4: unless Mason Smith comes back, you're gonna have to generate

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01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: a little more of that interior rush. So that's gonna

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Speaker 4: be involving blitzing. And keep in mind, like when we asked,

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Speaker 4: you know, Lloyd is a classic example of this. Like

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01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 4: Lloyd's great in the run game, Lloyd can get after

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01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 4: the passer a little bit as well. In terms of

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01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 4: his pass rush, I think you know, there's been times

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01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 4: in the past and if you ask him, well, you

1920
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 4: know what he's has to work on. It's his coverage ability.

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01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 4: Well that's an example now of using a player to

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01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 4: his strength. So if you want to butlitz Lloyd every

1923
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 4: once in a while or put somebody else, then more

1924
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 4: power to you. But until they address that interior, you've

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01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 4: got to manufacture a pass rush somehow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think in talking to the guys and the

1927
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 5: staff about Campanelli, he's going to be exotic and his

1928
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 5: looks He's gonna show a lot of things. It's not

1929
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 5: unlike Brian Flores in Minnesota.

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01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: He shows a lot of those different things.

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01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 5: You saw basic as basic can be the other night.

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Speaker 5: So it's hard to read into that, at least from

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Speaker 5: my standpoint.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there's a lot of people scare them.

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Speaker 3: If they can't handle the basics, then how are they

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Speaker 3: gonna handle the exact.

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Speaker 2: The basics are?

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Speaker 5: The basics are just again, are you worried about Trayvon

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01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 5: Walker playing the run or rushing the passer? Or you're

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01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 5: worried about josh hin Allen rushing the pastor I don't

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01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 5: think you are, but they.

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Speaker 2: Didn't do that in the game the other night. So

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01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: it's just so hard to preseason to evaluate.

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01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 3: It really is a couple more here at Tartan Tiel.

1945
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 3: Does Pete still think Fred Johnson makes the starting old

1946
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:49,919
Speaker 3: line ahead of Anton Harrison?

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01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 5: You know when I said that I thought he would

1948
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 5: push him, I was told that he would.

1949
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 2: Push him, and it hasn't materialized. I will say he

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01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: probably is.

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01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 5: He played on the left side the other night, but

1952
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 5: I think probably more apt to play on the right side.

1953
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 5: From what I hear, he hasn't had a great camp,

1954
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 5: and you know there's some concern about him.

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01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 2: I think you look at their we talked. We haven't

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Speaker 2: talked much about the offensive line.

1957
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 5: Adoga has done a really good job at right guard,

1958
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 5: and I think he might possibly win that job. He saw,

1959
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 5: you know, when McCary got hurt. You saw crease there

1960
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 5: and he.

1961
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: Took hold of it.

1962
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 5: Now, didn't they play him at right tackle today when

1963
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 5: Harrison was out? Didn't Didn't they play because Milon played

1964
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 5: right tackle just aft in this with the second group

1965
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 5: the other night.

1966
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I don't know about today because

1967
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: I was I got out there late today.

1968
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,639
Speaker 2: I think I read where McCary might have been over

1969
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: there today.

1970
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 3: So they've been moving guys around though all camp.

1971
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 5: I mean, like Manheim played left guard and he's a center. Yeah,

1972
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 5: and he was, by the way, he was good at

1973
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 5: left guard. You know, we're not great, but good. I

1974
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 5: think I think they finally have some developmental alignment. Milam

1975
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 5: and Monheim both could be developmental alignment. Fortner was better

1976
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 5: a little bit at center than he had been.

1977
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 2: But again, the.

1978
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 5: Offensive line, Fred Johnson, I'd have to say, in just

1979
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 5: from my personal experience, what I thought he would do

1980
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 5: come in is probably been a little disappointed.

1981
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think in terms of I mean, what

1982
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 4: was the call he's gonna replace Walker Little or Anton Harrison.

1983
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 2: The thought was he might push forcible.

1984
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of Anton Harrison,

1985
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 4: it's been evident during camp that they're trying to push

1986
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 4: him right in terms of just like what you know,

1987
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 4: coach Liam Cohen saying in the media and everything like that,

1988
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 4: they're really making a habit this year of trying to

1989
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 4: get the best out of Anton Harrison because I think

1990
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 4: we saw it his rookie year and he wasn't even

1991
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 4: a hundred percent and he showed some glimpses of but

1992
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 4: I think being a very good to even great offensive tackle.

1993
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 4: Then last year, for whatever rhyme or reason, when I

1994
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 4: feel like he was healthier, didn't pay up to his

1995
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 4: best abilities. So I think you have a situation now

1996
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 4: where it's like, is he not getting pushed enough, is

1997
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 4: he not getting coach right? Whatever the case may be,

1998
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 4: They're they're all in on this year on pushing them

1999
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 4: to try to like make make it because basically got

2000
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 4: to prove the coach is wrong and saying, hey, I

2001
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 4: can handle this job, and I think for the most part,

2002
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 4: if you watched that last game and tacha what Pete

2003
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 4: was saying earlier in the show. I mean, there was

2004
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 4: one play where if Travis CTN just reads it, it

2005
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 4: would have been eighty eight and out the gate. It's

2006
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 4: just he he didn't read the ball. And that was

2007
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,879
Speaker 4: that was spearheaded by Anton Harrison.

2008
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, guys, if Odogas starts at

2009
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 5: right guard and McCary doesn't start, is that bad free

2010
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 5: agency or do you give him the benefit of it

2011
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 5: out because they got the other guy on a cheap deal.

2012
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 2: How do you really how would that play out? How

2013
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 2: do you look at it from that standpoint.

2014
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: That's a good question, It's a great question.

2015
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 4: I will look at it and say, you know, we

2016
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 4: brought in a guy to to have a training camp

2017
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 4: battle to maybe push McCary, and that guy ended up winning.

2018
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 4: So I think, you know, if I'm the GM, it's

2019
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: gonna be a win win.

2020
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 3: You're still you're still paying McCarry, right, is it McCarry

2021
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 3: and McCary mcary He told me McCarry after his first

2022
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 3: press conference.

2023
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, because I've heard McCarthy at times in his career.

2024
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: It's been McCarthy.

2025
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 3: I've heard McCarthy.

2026
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's still there.

2027
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 3: It's a big contract. I was like twenty two and

2028
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 3: a half million guaranteed thirty seven and a half three years.

2029
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 5: Okay, but but the other guy you signed to be

2030
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 5: a tackle, a backup tackle, and.

2031
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: You move in the guard.

2032
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 5: He plays so well because he's played well supposedly in camp,

2033
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 5: he's had a really good camp.

2034
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: Right, and he's on a two year, seven million dollar deal.

2035
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 5: Well he's cheaper, yeah, but again, so how would you

2036
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 5: look at it? It just depends on how he plays.

2037
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 5: If he played really well, then you look at it

2038
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 5: as a good move. If he plays done play that well,

2039
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 5: then you look at it as a two crappy moves.

2040
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 3: Correct.

2041
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 2: You know.

2042
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 5: It's almost like when I was in Buffalo, Christian Benford

2043
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 5: is their best corner, right. Christian Benford came in the

2044
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 5: sixth and I remember the year I was there. Benford

2045
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 5: was a sixth rounder and kyer Elam from Florida was

2046
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 5: a first rounder and everybody was raising they said, no,

2047
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 5: the sixth rounders out playing them already. Well, the sixth

2048
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 5: rounders become one of the better corners in the league.

2049
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: The first round is no longer a buffalo. So do

2050
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 5: you ping him for drafting elam or do you give

2051
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 5: him credit for drafting?

2052
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 2: And that's kind of the same scenario here. If it

2053
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: played out that way, well, I.

2054
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 3: Mean, I found myself the same situation. It's a little different.

2055
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 4: But when I got here back in twenty ten, Derek

2056
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 4: Harvey was the starting defensive end and obviously you remember

2057
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 4: what they sacrificed to get Derek Harvey here. I mean,

2058
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 4: it was a lot of draft capital to try to,

2059
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 4: you know, make him the man. You know, he struggles,

2060
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 4: and eventually I ended up taking his role, and I understood,

2061
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 4: like there was a lot of hesitation to do that,

2062
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 4: not because you know, it was a new GM and everything,

2063
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 4: but it's like, it's what the move said, right, is

2064
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 4: that you invested so much in this first round pick

2065
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 4: and everything, all this capital, and now all of a sudden,

2066
01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:59,519
Speaker 4: you're gonna be like, all right, let's bring this fifth

2067
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 4: rounder for Murray State wherever that is, and then we'll

2068
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 4: see what happens.

2069
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 3: And that's what happened, man.

2070
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,799
Speaker 2: But I did take his job, as.

2071
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 4: That would have been the Dallas Cowboys game, and I

2072
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 4: didn't know I was even.

2073
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 3: Playing in that so early in the season when was yeah,

2074
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 3: it would.

2075
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 4: Have been like week five, I think four, week five,

2076
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 4: and I didn't know I was even gonna play. So

2077
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 4: I was inactive for the first whatever four games. And

2078
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm in Dallas, think I'm being active again. I'm in

2079
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 4: the locker room, you know, we get off the bus

2080
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 4: coach Tuck mel Tucker comes up to me. He's like,

2081
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 4: you're starting today. I go huh, because I'm thinking, like,

2082
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 4: you know, like, and I'll be honest, like, there's a

2083
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 4: mindset that you get in before a game where you

2084
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 4: think you're starting or you think you're inactive. Right, So

2085
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 4: did I stay up and and watch a little too

2086
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 4: much TV? I might have, right, because I think I'm

2087
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 4: not gonna play it the next day. So I get

2088
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 4: up and I go huh and he goes, yeah, you're starting.

2089
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 4: I go okay, cool, and he goes, hey, I understand

2090
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 4: you right, you're a little nervous. I go, well, yes, sir,

2091
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 4: and he goes and at the paarapraise I can't cuss,

2092
01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna paarapraise this.

2093
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 3: He goes, well, like what you do on film?

2094
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 4: He goes if you're gonna crap on yourself, just make

2095
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 4: sure you do it one hundred miles per hour.

2096
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 3: I go, yes, sir, sounds good, and it ended up

2097
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 3: being a great game.

2098
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 4: I got a tackle for loss of the first playoffs

2099
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 4: out there, so I kind of etched myself in, But yeah,

2100
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: it was.

2101
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 3: It was.

2102
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 4: There was a lot of resentment though, right because once

2103
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 4: again Derek Harvey was supposed to be the guy and

2104
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 4: he wasn't. And how they had that situation was just different.

2105
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 4: But I will say this too, I found out I

2106
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 4: was still rooking the NFL, because yes, I was started.

2107
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 4: You thought life was good. I was still giving the

2108
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 4: scout team looks too as well, because Derek Carvey didn't

2109
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 4: want to do that. So I'd have to go with

2110
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 4: the ones on defense in practice with Jack, and then

2111
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 4: I had to go give the scout team look because well,

2112
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 4: Derek Cary wasn't give the.

2113
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 3: Scout team one.

2114
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 2: And what ron did you come? You were a fifth

2115
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 2: a fifth round pickah, So as.

2116
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 5: A fifth round pick, he ran down the first round pick,

2117
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 5: the high first round pick five games.

2118
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: That's incredible.

2119
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 5: It no offense, Austin, but that speaks filures about Derek Garvey.

2120
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 4: No, no, listen, Derek Carry was a great guy man

2121
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 4: and he was always cool with me when he have

2122
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 4: to be right because he got a guy from Murray

2123
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 4: Stay coming and taking your job, he'd have to be cool,

2124
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 4: but he was always cool with me.

2125
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 3: All right, We've got one more question for the Night

2126
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 3: at the foot fault guy, please tell me Prisco will

2127
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 3: be on means the show. I need him to keep

2128
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: calling Tony Bisselli a turncoat.

2129
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 5: Well, look, you give Tony Bisselli a ton of credit

2130
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 5: because he turn.

2131
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: Coated himself into an executive shop. What is this Tony's

2132
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: exact title, by.

2133
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: The way, executive vice president of Football Operation.

2134
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 2: Okay, at the end of last year for the last month.

2135
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 5: And a half when he was defending everything and I

2136
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 5: called him the turncoat and all that, he.

2137
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: Played it right the right way. Kudos to him. We

2138
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 2: were the.

2139
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 3: Dope right because we're still on the show. I mean

2140
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: no offense to the show.

2141
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: It's just but look at him.

2142
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 5: He played himself in the executive DP of the football

2143
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 5: operations for NFL team from that seat right there, Austin,

2144
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 5: think about that.

2145
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 3: It's incredible big shoes to fill, for sure.

2146
01:31:58,920 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 2: You know what it is.

2147
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: How many years did we do the show eleven? I

2148
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 3: believe I think eleven seasons total.

2149
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: So I taught him well, I sent him on his way.

2150
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: He could be the executive VP now.

2151
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 5: He learned enough football from me that he could go

2152
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 5: on his way. You know, it's funny though he's still

2153
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 5: butchers names.

2154
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I bet there's no doubt about that. In meetings.

2155
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 3: I bet he's hammered.

2156
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,919
Speaker 5: Like I'll talk to about guys around the league sometimes

2157
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 5: and he'll still butcher their names.

2158
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 3: Hey, you should have heard him do a commercial the

2159
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 3: other day. He actually did a commercial the other day.

2160
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 3: Not sports Coach, No, it's not sports coats back, but

2161
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 3: it was. It took him a handful of takes which

2162
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 3: that happened.

2163
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,480
Speaker 2: It's not surprising. That's not surprising.

2164
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 3: They have it. Fanatics, fan questions are in. We're back

2165
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 3: in a moment with some final thoughts on our opening

2166
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 3: Monday night show of the season. This is Jaguar's Happy

2167
01:32:47,120 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 3: Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. Welcome back. It is

2168
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, our first

2169
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 3: Monday show of the season. Winding down from the Hundai

2170
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: Studios of the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick with Austin

2171
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 3: Lane here in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida

2172
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,839
Speaker 3: and for a dream. For twelve years, the dream Fighters

2173
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 3: Homes has been proud to call themselves the official homebuilder

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Speaker 3: spent the entire commercial break crushing Basselle on how he

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Speaker 3: couldn't read commercials properly, and I just screwed up the

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Speaker 3: first read of this segment.

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Speaker 2: You know what, He'll give it to you when he

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Speaker 2: sees you. Yeah, because he probably he's probably we know

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Speaker 2: you're in your office listening Tony. We know it.

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Speaker 3: We just know it old Rabbit Ears, Tony.

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Speaker 5: Sitting there in your your hoodie.

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Speaker 3: Eating snacks, eating snacks, watching tape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we know it.

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Speaker 3: You know he's listening, well, Rabbit turncoat to Rabbit Ears.

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Speaker 2: You know what, though, I don't think I don't.

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Speaker 5: Think he's going to be like certain other gms in

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Speaker 5: that GM in that building at all.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't think James will be either.

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Speaker 5: Look, the other guy was so thin skinned Trent Balkey

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Speaker 5: listened to everything and it bothered him.

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Speaker 2: And when you try and talk to him about it,

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Speaker 2: it still bothered him.

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Speaker 5: So you know, look, we're going to be critical. We're

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Speaker 5: not holding back. We will not hold back. If Warren's

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Speaker 5: being criticized, you get criticized, but Warren's being praised, you

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Speaker 5: get praised.

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Speaker 2: Period. That's the way it's going to be.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious because I think late Liam Cohen, I don't

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Speaker 5: know if you guys.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he's handled his team very well in

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Speaker 2: the offseason.

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Speaker 5: And it's just a matter of what's it going to

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Speaker 5: be like in the regular If it's one and two,

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Speaker 5: how does he handle that?

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Speaker 2: We don't know that. That's what we don't.

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Speaker 3: And that's with every new head coach that comes in,

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Speaker 3: especially a first year head coach that comes in. We've

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Speaker 3: had a few of those when they're one and four.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, things can get tight in a hurry.

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Speaker 2: Us.

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Speaker 4: No, without a doubt. I mean, when you're winning football games,

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Speaker 4: everything's fun. Right Like if you're on a little bit

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Speaker 4: of a winning streak, your job is easy. Just all right,

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Speaker 4: be here at a certain time. I'll coach. That's I'll

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Speaker 4: call these plays cool. But if it's the NFL, so

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Speaker 4: there's gonna be losing streaks, right, So if we're talking

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Speaker 4: three four games in a row, how do you respond?

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Speaker 4: And that to me is gonna be the true makeup

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Speaker 4: of a coach right there, especially a first year coach,

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Speaker 4: of how do you rally your troops? Then how do

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Speaker 4: you get your guys to be invested when you guys,

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Speaker 4: you know, worked hard in the off season and everything,

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Speaker 4: and now all of a sudden it's not going like

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Speaker 4: you wanted.

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Speaker 3: What is the plan going forward?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: I was talking about Lafleur last week about coaching, and

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Speaker 5: we were talking about he said early in his career

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Speaker 5: it would drive him crazy to the point where he

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Speaker 5: didn't sleep, and what would you do when it wasn't perfect?

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Speaker 5: And I told him, I go, can't be perfect. You

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Speaker 5: can't control it. It cannot be perfect.

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Speaker 2: And until you.

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Speaker 5: Later on in his career, as he started to realize

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Speaker 5: it can't be perfect, that it changed who he is.

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Speaker 5: And so that's what you always worry about with young

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Speaker 5: young coaches who were coordinators, like with Liam, if it

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Speaker 5: goes bad, does he go back to trying to fix

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Speaker 5: the offense?

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Speaker 2: It's not just him Ben Johnson. Uh, those guys, do

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Speaker 2: you go to your side.

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Speaker 5: Of the ball and say, I gotta oh my gosh,

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Speaker 5: I gotta fix this, and not really big picture of

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Speaker 5: the whole team, because that's where you're gonna be decided

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Speaker 5: if you're a great coach or not.

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Speaker 2: Is that you handled a big team, the whole team. Well.

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Speaker 4: And here's the biggest thing too about Liam Conan this

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Speaker 4: entire regime taking over, is that they've put u you know,

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Speaker 4: a really emphasis on transparency.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We almost feel like we're behind the curtain the entire

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Speaker 4: time with this new regime. What happens if you lose

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Speaker 4: three or four games in a row? Is there gonna

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Speaker 4: be accountability? Are you gonna call guys out or are

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Speaker 4: we gonna be privileged to know, Hey, what do you

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Speaker 4: guys plan on doing it? Or are we gonna kind

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Speaker 4: of go quiet then and not really give us a

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Speaker 4: lot of information? You know, is gonna be more like

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Speaker 4: Brett Martineau. You would understand from Doug Peterson last year?

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Speaker 3: Remember that one I do remember what you get it?

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Speaker 3: You would can get it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we can got Liam Cohen breaking down

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Speaker 4: and play by play in the preseason like, I'm a

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Speaker 4: fan of it, but me to.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I've said that all the year. There's no secrets in

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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Pete, when do you want to cut the team?

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Speaker 3: And when do you want to pick the schedule? We

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Speaker 3: got like three weeks cut the team.

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Speaker 2: We'll cut the team? What days cut dates? And three

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Speaker 2: weeks from.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, it's we won't have a show after that

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Speaker 3: until week one. No, no, we labor Day, we don't

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Speaker 3: have a show either, So we won't have a show

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Speaker 3: until after the first game. So we got to do

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Speaker 3: it before cuts.

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Speaker 2: We got to do it before cuts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got what.

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Speaker 2: We gotta do it before cuts. Anyways, we always make

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Speaker 2: our cuts.

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Speaker 5: Did you see Liam Cohen came out today and said

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Speaker 5: he already has fifty count He pretty much knows fifty.

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Speaker 3: Well that all the time you do it every year.

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Speaker 4: He's like, I got it done already.

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Speaker 2: I I could have done it.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week, Pete. Pete Prisco Austin,

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Speaker 3: great jobs, man, appreciate you again next week. That all

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Speaker 3: twenty two password appreciate you. This Jaguars happy Hour