WEBVTT - Is Cable Hanging By a Thread

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com either everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren voc Obama, and today

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about something that is an interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really about cable and cord cutting and what is

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<v Speaker 1>the deal there, what's going on with cable. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to dive into the technical side of how cable

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<v Speaker 1>TV works, because that's really its own episode all by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking more about the business side, right right, because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really rapidly developing industry and and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it's kind of freaking out right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the changes that have gone on in in

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<v Speaker 1>the way that people are consuming content with greater broadband access.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually before before we got started too far into this,

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<v Speaker 1>we we did want to mention that, yes, How Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works is owned by Discovery Corporation, which is a cable

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<v Speaker 1>co intent provider. Yeah, it's a company that owns several

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<v Speaker 1>cable channels. So, uh that that is a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that we definitely need to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. And now it's out of the way. In

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, there was broadcast TV, and it was okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So broadcast TV. Yeah, we're talking about you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>had you had stations that could broadcast over the air

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<v Speaker 1>as in there they are broadcasting radio waves. They would

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<v Speaker 1>have a transmission antenna that would shoot out broadcast waves

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<v Speaker 1>of TV, and you would have your little reception antenna,

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<v Speaker 1>your little rabbit ears and you would have to tell

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<v Speaker 1>your your your kid brother, no, no, it's still just snow.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn it to the left, No, my left, not your left,

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<v Speaker 1>until you could finally be able to watch all in

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<v Speaker 1>the family or something so um the weird dated references

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't even get anyway, the idea was that

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<v Speaker 1>you would send this all through radio signals, but it

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<v Speaker 1>did mean that, you know, you had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different factors that could impact the quality or even the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to receive television. It was pretty limited in power

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<v Speaker 1>and scope. Yeah, you had a certain number of stations

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<v Speaker 1>that you could receive, and they were all regionally based.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. There weren't really any national channels other than

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that could be rebroadcast from one from one tower

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<v Speaker 1>to another. And um and and really, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the electromagnetic spectrum is that it's not infinite

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's you know, it's pretty wide, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's only so many radio channels that you can broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>on right exactly, And it's different in different countries, like

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. If you look at the spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>from a transmission standpoint, you'll see that there are entire

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<v Speaker 1>bandwidths that are set aside specifically for things like television broadcast,

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<v Speaker 1>radio broadcast, and then there's a whole bunch of government ones. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to play within that and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't play within the same space that someone else is

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<v Speaker 1>playing with within that area, or else you get a

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<v Speaker 1>signal confusion. So h There were other problems with this approach,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them was that people who lived in

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<v Speaker 1>remote areas often could not receive any sort of television programming,

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<v Speaker 1>which can be a problem if you want to use

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<v Speaker 1>TV to communicate something widely, or you just want to

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<v Speaker 1>try and reach as many potential customers. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's creating ads on this television platform. U So,

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<v Speaker 1>what could you do? While in nineteen which this actually

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me that was this early n you actually had

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<v Speaker 1>a few companies begin to experiment with delivering broadcast channels

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<v Speaker 1>with cable. They were using the instead of using it

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<v Speaker 1>as a broadcast radio signal, they were putting these signals

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<v Speaker 1>through copper wires essentially. And this was just a few

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<v Speaker 1>small communities out in Oregon, Arkansas and Pennsylvania. Yeah, Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 1>I think might have even been the very first one.

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<v Speaker 1>So you start seeing this experiment. Now, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really the broadcast channels that are being put over

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<v Speaker 1>the cable. It's not like suddenly everybody had HBO right

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<v Speaker 1>right now, know, um, And you know that television production

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with was very small at this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was not twenty four hours of content. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a few shows that would air at peak times.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, we're talking like the same source stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you would be able to see if you had an

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<v Speaker 1>antenna and could pick up the local stations. So nothing

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that. In nineteen sixty we started to see cable

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<v Speaker 1>began to enter major metropolitan area markets. So now it's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer just a tool to get television out to

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<v Speaker 1>remote areas. Now it's an alternative to broadcast TV, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still at this point was mostly covered carrying the

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<v Speaker 1>local area networks. It wasn't like again, there weren't like

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<v Speaker 1>these big national UH companies that spread from coast to

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<v Speaker 1>coast right It in fact wouldn't be until an entire

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<v Speaker 1>decade later in nineteen seventy that the first UH cable

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<v Speaker 1>programming networks would begin to launch. Right now, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we start seeing. We have the big broadcast companies

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<v Speaker 1>still like ABC, NBCCB, Yes those were those were well established.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is when we start seeing the smaller cable

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<v Speaker 1>companies that were independent of these big broadcast companies become

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<v Speaker 1>an actual thing and be able to get a national reach.

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<v Speaker 1>Now before, if you were to create your own channel,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to be able to muscle in on

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<v Speaker 1>that broadcast spectrum we were talking about. UH. This way

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<v Speaker 1>you could suddenly have lots more bandwidth to play with

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<v Speaker 1>and you could create, you know, your crazy wacky channel company.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people tried it, and so nine two,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest ones debuted that would be HBO.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no UM and it's a it was a

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<v Speaker 1>subsidiary still is of of Time now it's Time Warner,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just Time Incorporated. Yep. And they purchased it

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<v Speaker 1>might sel familiar what they would do. They would purchase

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<v Speaker 1>rights to recent movies, and they would also purchase the

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<v Speaker 1>right the broadcast rights to sporting events, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>how they made their name. Back in nineteen seventy two, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy six saw another interesting development in cable. That

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<v Speaker 1>was when TBS became a superstation. TBS ends for Turner

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcast Station and uh after Ted Turner, who is, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a neighbor of ours here in Atlanta. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>not not a direct neighbor. I mean he doesn't live

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<v Speaker 1>in my neighborhood. No, no, no, he could own my neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>Several times over. His restaurant is right down the street

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<v Speaker 1>from where I live, one of them, Ted's Montana Grill. Anyway, Um, Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>he had this idea. He had this station that he

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<v Speaker 1>had he was producing that was mainly for the Atlanta area,

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<v Speaker 1>the Turner Broadcast Station, and he thought, well, with cable,

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<v Speaker 1>I could turn this local station into a national station.

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<v Speaker 1>I could distribute this local programming across the entire United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the first time anyone had had tried this,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a big success. Turner had had seen

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<v Speaker 1>great success with the Turner Broadcast Station and many other

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<v Speaker 1>channels followed suit. In fact, I remember as a kid

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<v Speaker 1>growing up being completely flabbergasted that we were getting a

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<v Speaker 1>station out of Chicago and it was Chicago programming and

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<v Speaker 1>everything was an hour off. And also I remember being

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<v Speaker 1>very confused about that. As a child, I had never

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<v Speaker 1>seen Bozo the Clown until we got that channel. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I became a big fan of the Grand Prize Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so lots of stations started experimenting with that. By

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<v Speaker 1>cable television had exploded. In fact, that's right about when

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<v Speaker 1>my family got cable TV would have been nineteen eighty UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and dozens and dozens of channels began to join this,

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<v Speaker 1>this new revolution in entertainment and and delivery. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is when you started getting things like m MTV. First

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<v Speaker 1>video on MTV, of course, video Killed the Radio Star

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<v Speaker 1>by the Buggles, um, and then um after let's go

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<v Speaker 1>forward in a full decade. Cable through this decade does

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<v Speaker 1>really really well. Ah yeah, seven percent of households in

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<v Speaker 1>the US are subscribed to some kind of cable video service.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah. And keep in mind that when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cable here will also later be talking about things

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<v Speaker 1>like satellite television. Uh, cable almost becomes like a just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a general term meaning right right, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly antiquated in some ways. Uh yeah, umbrella term I

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<v Speaker 1>think for for media. At this point, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be using it mostly as shorthand meaning both cable and

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<v Speaker 1>satellite when we get toward the discussion of cord cutting,

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<v Speaker 1>just because saying cable and satellite over and over it

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<v Speaker 1>gets a little tedious. Yeah, it would make our episode

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<v Speaker 1>even longer. Yeah, and we heard your cries people two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand one, actually mostly I hear our producer cry. In

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand one, the average pay TV cable monthly bill

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States was forty dollars sots. Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into why that sounds lovely and a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who actually are in charge of

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<v Speaker 1>your cable bill, you already know why forty dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>month sounds lovely. Uh. From two thousand and eight through

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven, this is a period that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about because, according to the Convergence Consulting Group,

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<v Speaker 1>around two point six five million people in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States dropped cable TV entirely. They just they stopped subscribing.

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<v Speaker 1>They canceled their subscriptions, meaning that they also didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>to satellite. They got rid of any sort of provider

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<v Speaker 1>from that side. And we call this cutting the chord.

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<v Speaker 1>Chord cutting where you're you're no longer getting your entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>through these channels or these platforms is so confusing. The

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<v Speaker 1>terminology here, by the way, is pretty tough because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the words we want to use mean multiple

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<v Speaker 1>multiple things. But anyway, the idea is that they go

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<v Speaker 1>mainly either to the Internet for all their entertainment, or

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know, go outside or something. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>these people, honestly, But two point six five million people

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<v Speaker 1>and now that might sound like a lot, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about lots and lots and lots of customers. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Nielsen, one point five million customers dropped multi

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<v Speaker 1>channel subscriptions in twenty eleven alone. So if you think

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight to two thousand eleven, two point

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<v Speaker 1>six five million of them dropped cable. If two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>eleven one point five million of them did, that means

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<v Speaker 1>more than half of that number dropped in twenty eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>which could possibly mean we're seeing a trend that is

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<v Speaker 1>on a very rapid climb right right. According to the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal, um was the peak of cable subscription

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<v Speaker 1>cable subscribers actual the United States, and since since then

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<v Speaker 1>it has been in in even more steep decline than

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<v Speaker 1>this initial period of broadband affecting things right, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we should point out that if you look at the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the full numbers of cable subscription,

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<v Speaker 1>which is tough to do, by the way, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to rely on a lot of different consulting groups doing

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<v Speaker 1>their own work, because uh, it's it's not easy to

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<v Speaker 1>get all these numbers and make them meaningful. But in general,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like satellite has had modest growth, and by

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<v Speaker 1>modest I mean like one point six percent growth, cable

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<v Speaker 1>has suffered a minor decline like three point one percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and Internet provided TV or Internet I p t V.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say UH has had a significant increase at

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<v Speaker 1>for over a two year period. But while that sounds big,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers themselves are actually small. It's it's big growth,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like a small group of users into a

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<v Speaker 1>slightly less small group of users, right, So if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you go from five people to ten people, that's

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<v Speaker 1>huge growth. That's right. But if another company loses five

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<v Speaker 1>customers when it has millions, like they're like, what, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not notice that buzzing little sound in my ear?

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, complicated issue. We'll get more into that in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half. Now, in at that peak of able subscription,

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<v Speaker 1>when we're seeing all this stuff happen, the average pay

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<v Speaker 1>TV cable monthly bill is now eighty six dollars per month.

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<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand one it was forty, it's eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>So and to be fair, there has been a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>steep inflation rate over that period of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not just that the prices doubled or

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<v Speaker 1>more than doubled. It's also inflation which caused caused however,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's I mean, it's you know, the inflation rates

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<v Speaker 1>certainly didn't go up that much, right, that was still

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty pretty sharp And two thousand and twelve, the

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<v Speaker 1>National Cable and Telecommunications Association estimated that there fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>point nine million customers for cable video and forty six

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<v Speaker 1>point four million for digital video, So cord cutters are

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<v Speaker 1>about two point five percent of the entire TV viewing population,

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<v Speaker 1>So two and a half a percent of your population

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<v Speaker 1>decides to stop using the product. That's not that big

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<v Speaker 1>a number in the grand scheme of things, or it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that big of a person synage, I should say.

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<v Speaker 1>But another survey found that nine of cable company customers

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<v Speaker 1>had canceled service within the that previous year. So nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the people they surveyed said that they had

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<v Speaker 1>canceled their service. So so again the numbers are are

0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:19.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of squiggly and complicated. In twelve, New York Times

0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.720
<v Speaker 1>reported that there had been about a three percent per

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<v Speaker 1>year decline and cable subscriptions for a while, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some of that might mean that it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just people canceling, but we'll we'll explain that in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. So twenty thirteen, that's this year we're recording this.

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<v Speaker 1>In August two thousand thirteen, um Nielsen reported that in

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<v Speaker 1>its fourth quarter two thousand twelve cross Platform report that

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<v Speaker 1>there were more than five million households in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States that fit its zero TV definition, which that definition

0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.640
<v Speaker 1>meant that the households got entertainment not through television but

0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.440
<v Speaker 1>through computers, smartphones, and tablets, and that in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>seven it was sorts of two million, so more than

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<v Speaker 1>doubled within six years. Now. We should also point out

0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that this is kind of a weird definition to say

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<v Speaker 1>zero TV and that they only get their their their

0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:17.200
<v Speaker 1>entertainment through computers, smartphones, and tablets, because there are lots

0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.120
<v Speaker 1>of different solutions out there, set top boxes, for example,

0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that are not getting cable or satellite. They're getting Internet content,

0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.640
<v Speaker 1>but they are streaming television. Yeah, they're streaming to a

0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:33.240
<v Speaker 1>television set. So I don't know if the zero TV

0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.520
<v Speaker 1>definition takes into account those people. See I'm one of

0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.120
<v Speaker 1>those people. I have, like you know, I have an

0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Xbox three six which pulls in content. I've got a

0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.080
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation three which pulls in content. I've got a Chrome

0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.800
<v Speaker 1>cast that pulls in content. I've got Roku that pulls

0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in content. Um, I got a lot of these devices, right, So,

0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.200
<v Speaker 1>but I do watch the content on the television. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that, you know, if that definition doesn't uh,

0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.080
<v Speaker 1>if I don't fall under the zero TV definition, there

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<v Speaker 1>may be even more people than we're in this report

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<v Speaker 1>that do not get their content through a cable or

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<v Speaker 1>satellite provider. Other than they're the ones who provide the

0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.800
<v Speaker 1>actual pipes that get the data there or tubes if

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<v Speaker 1>you prefer, since that's what the and in two thousand fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think, I know you're thinking, wait, whoa what

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fifteen, But it's not even yet there. There

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<v Speaker 1>is an estimate, Yes, there's a prediction. The mp D

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<v Speaker 1>group estimates that the average pay TV cable bill in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fifteen will be and prepare yourselves for some

0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.080
<v Speaker 1>sticker shock, a hundred and twenty three dollars per month.

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<v Speaker 1>That's average, meaning that they're gonna be other packages out

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<v Speaker 1>there that are going to be significantly more than that,

0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and some that will be less than that three bucks

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<v Speaker 1>per month. Yeah, so that's our timeline. But we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a full discussion about cord cutting coming up, and before

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<v Speaker 1>we do that, let's take a quick break to our sponsor. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've covered kind of the timeline of cable and

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with this chord cutting trend. We should

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<v Speaker 1>stress again this trend, if it is in fact a trend,

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<v Speaker 1>is still in its earliest days, and in fact, there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of factors that complicate the decision to

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<v Speaker 1>just cut the chord, and it all will depend upon

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<v Speaker 1>the individuals preferences like what what do they like to watch?

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<v Speaker 1>Because some things, if you like certain things, you know,

0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you need to have cable, you know, certain sporting events.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. Sports is like the biggest one

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<v Speaker 1>because sports companies have very complicated television deals. And anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who's tried to follow sports and has also looked at

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<v Speaker 1>cutting the cable or cutting the chord has found out

0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.320
<v Speaker 1>that this can get pretty complicated. Yeah. I've had a few,

0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:55.280
<v Speaker 1>um international football fans who who soccer fans for US folks,

0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.160
<v Speaker 1>um that that you have to gote like like, well,

0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't do this because this, Yeah, because

0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.320
<v Speaker 1>then I can't see anything or you know, I I

0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.520
<v Speaker 1>am a casual baseball fan. But the way that baseball

0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.840
<v Speaker 1>agreements work on television and cable means that if I

0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.879
<v Speaker 1>were to go with an online solution, like I I

0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:21.920
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to Major League Baseball and get get games through there,

0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:25.359
<v Speaker 1>there's still some agreements that say that if a game

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<v Speaker 1>was to be shown in my local area, it cannot

0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.399
<v Speaker 1>be shown on the internet, which means that if I

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.320
<v Speaker 1>don't have that access, then I don't see that game.

0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.560
<v Speaker 1>So clearly sports is one of those things that if

0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you're a big sports fan, there are really very few

0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.160
<v Speaker 1>options that will satisfy you entirely. Not that there aren't

0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:43.920
<v Speaker 1>options out there. There are a lot of them. They're

0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:47.760
<v Speaker 1>just not gonna necessarily meet your needs. So let's talk

0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:53.439
<v Speaker 1>more about this whole cord cutting cable subscription problem. So

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.560
<v Speaker 1>cable subscription growth has kind of wobbled, like we had said,

0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.240
<v Speaker 1>it dips a couple of times, it's kind of held

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<v Speaker 1>steady more less in about totally. If you're talking about

0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.280
<v Speaker 1>pay TV subscriptions, not just cable, but pay TV subscriptions

0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 1>across all the providers are about a hundred point eight

0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:16.240
<v Speaker 1>million customers. But the number of occupied households grew. Yeah,

0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:19.440
<v Speaker 1>so you get one point to five million more households,

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<v Speaker 1>but the actual subscription numbers stay steady. This tells you

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things. It tells you there's some combination

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.359
<v Speaker 1>of new households that are not subscribing to cable, or

0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.040
<v Speaker 1>if all one point to five million people are subscribing

0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>to cable, that means you lost one point to five

0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.280
<v Speaker 1>million existing customers because your numbers stayed the same. So

0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there's some and there's it's more likely a combination right,

0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.040
<v Speaker 1>there's some people who just said I don't need it,

0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.560
<v Speaker 1>so I'm never going to get it, and there's some

0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:50.960
<v Speaker 1>people who are like, I want it, and then some

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.400
<v Speaker 1>existing customers saying I am not doing this anymore. So

0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the with the numbers staying steady, that's you know, everyone

0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.159
<v Speaker 1>wants to see growth when they're in a business. They

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.640
<v Speaker 1>want growth year over year, and they want that rate

0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:07.159
<v Speaker 1>of growth to grow in turned. So, now, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Multi Media Research Group, there are about eighty four

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>point five million pay TV subscribers in the United States

0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.399
<v Speaker 1>in and cable accounts for forty eight point seven of

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:22.360
<v Speaker 1>that number. Satellite was another forty point four percent, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you have I p t V, which was ten

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<v Speaker 1>pot nine. Now, like we said, out of all of

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<v Speaker 1>those three, ib TV had the biggest amount of growth,

0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.199
<v Speaker 1>but it was also the smallest number of customers. Right,

0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.320
<v Speaker 1>So really, you know, a significant growth for ip TV

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<v Speaker 1>would be insignificant for cable or satellite, is what we're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because just because of the numbers game and boy aren't

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<v Speaker 1>percentages fun And we don't really know a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>people who just don't ever subscribe to cable, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>there's a generation now that's entering into their first living

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<v Speaker 1>away from home. That ver so the millennia alls and younger. Yeah. Yeah.

0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Organ, who's the chairman co founder of the Dish Network.

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<v Speaker 1>At UM the Dive into Media conference, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>big executive kind of thing that happens every year, was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, um, you know, the fact that that college

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<v Speaker 1>kids don't subscribe to cable packages when they're in college

0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.240
<v Speaker 1>because they've got broadband at school and cable is expensive,

0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and then they're getting out into maybe the workforce or

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're having trouble and they're continue and that they're

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<v Speaker 1>just never going to buy it. He joked, there's a

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>reason that tobacco companies giveaway free cigarettes at colleges. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>what a great joke. Boy. I sure wish I had

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.600
<v Speaker 1>said something like that to be recorded for all time

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet. He said sarcastically. Um, yeah, so we

0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>don't really know how many people don't subscribe, because I mean,

0:20:48.280 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 1>these these are numbers that don't tend to get counted

0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 1>in surveys. Yet again, it's difficult to record something not happening.

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.119
<v Speaker 1>But if it does mean that there are more and

0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.879
<v Speaker 1>more people who are never becoming so subscribers either to

0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.679
<v Speaker 1>cable or IPTV or SATURDAYLA or whatever, and they're just

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.360
<v Speaker 1>relying on other services, things like the streaming services will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in our companion piece, or just you know,

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.639
<v Speaker 1>anything that they can get online. If if that's a

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.679
<v Speaker 1>growing trend, that's bad news for providers, all right, especially

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>because over this period of time, broadband subscriptions, you know,

0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:25.440
<v Speaker 1>people who are who are purchasing plans to get broadband

0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 1>into their home are on the rise. Yeah. Yeah, the

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>cable television portion of it is in decline. So there

0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>is some worry within the cable industry, particularly in the

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 1>cable providers and satellite providers, that what they are going

0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to end up being will be don't what they call

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>dumb pipes, meaning that they'll just they'll just provide that

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 1>connection that Internet connections, So you'll still subscribe to have

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the Internet connection, you'll still subscribe for a monthly plan

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.200
<v Speaker 1>on that. But that would be what the cable companies

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.000
<v Speaker 1>could turn into. If you're looking well into the future

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<v Speaker 1>and assuming that these trends are one reel and two

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue, which by the way, is still really early,

0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and there are a lot of things that cable companies

0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:11.680
<v Speaker 1>can do to either address this issue or at least

0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 1>make it last longer. Huh. And we'll talk about a

0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.640
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that, but uh, we don't know what's

0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 1>how it's going to turn out. So I know a

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of people kind of have this foregone conclusion that

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:27.639
<v Speaker 1>cable companies are are on the way out. It's just

0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a matter of time. People for the past four years

0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 1>have been saying it is the end of television as

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<v Speaker 1>we know it, and that gets complicated, I mean, because

0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:39.359
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about this whole system going away, it

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>changes everything about the entertainment industry and the television industry

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and the way that all of these contracts are drawn

0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 1>up and where the money goes and who gets how

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.360
<v Speaker 1>much of it right, and whether or not we ever

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<v Speaker 1>get another awesome, well produced television series or if everything

0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>has to become something on the cheap because suddenly the

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 1>money that would be going into the system and providing

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the ability to produce this content suddenly goes away. Um,

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>So let's talk a little bit about where this, this whole,

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>this whole process comes from, Like what is going on

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>with cable, What is going on with the content that

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>comes to you the viewer when you turn on your television,

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<v Speaker 1>and what is it that's driving the changes for people

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:23.480
<v Speaker 1>to make these choices to cut the cord. Now, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the different groups involved. First of all,

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about television show, like a specific show, Um,

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'll pick Supernatural because I haven't talked

0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 1>about it in like fourteen or fifteen episodes. So Supernatural,

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 1>You've got the company that actually makes the show, the

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 1>content creators, all right, they have entered into a deal

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.119
<v Speaker 1>with a particular channel, whatever channel it is that runs Supernatural,

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.240
<v Speaker 1>which I honestly don't know because I get it on.

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the c W. Yeah, so the c W.

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So you've got the the show that then has the

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.919
<v Speaker 1>relationship with the c W. C W is paying essentially

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 1>to have this show on its channel. Then you've got

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the cable company. So in this case, i'll talk about Comcast.

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>It is a service provider, Yeah, it is. It is

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:16.639
<v Speaker 1>what sends the tubes into your home. Right, So Comcast says, hey,

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to have the c W as part of

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>my my library of channels. Yeah, the package of channels

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that I offer my subscribers. And so then uh, the

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>cable provider will pay a certain amount of carriage fees

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:34.679
<v Speaker 1>usually is what we call this, to carry that channel

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>into its package. And then you've got the actual customer,

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the person on the other end who's paying a subscription

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>to have access to all of this. Where this gets

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 1>really complicated is when you start talking about big, big

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>companies that own lots and lots of channels. So for example,

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Viacom owns many different channels, MTV Nickelodeon, MTV two, MTV seventeen,

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>or or Disney's entire ABC, ESPN, Disney channels. So you've

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>got these different giant companies that own multiple channels, and

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.720
<v Speaker 1>what they'll do is they'll do something called bundling where

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>they bundle these channels together in a single package and

0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>say when the cable company comes up to them and

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>say to Disney, for example, and says, hey, Disney, we

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>want ESPN. We have to have ESPN in our package

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.880
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise no one's going to buy it, Disney can say,

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>all right, but you also have to take ABC Family,

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 1>and you have to take Disney Channel, and you have

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to you have to pay for all those or you

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.640
<v Speaker 1>don't get ESPN. They all get bundled together. So this

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of arrangement allows big, big companies to do things

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 1>like not only get money for channels that might be

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 1>a hard sell otherwise, which which can be great for

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the content creators at the end of the day, and

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.959
<v Speaker 1>it could be great for the audience too, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a very small audience that tunes into that channel,

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.439
<v Speaker 1>but they may find the programming on that channel to

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 1>be exactly what they want. Or if you ever hit

0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>that station randomly in the nine two channels they have

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<v Speaker 1>to have, you might find something new that you like exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not we're not saying that the channels that

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<v Speaker 1>are generally speaking, you know that that perform at a

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<v Speaker 1>lower rate, are necessarily worse. They're not. They're not. There's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about that that makes them better or worse than

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>any other channel. It's just popularity. It is an individual

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>decision which becomes a non individual decision because of the

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>way that these cable companies are bundling these packages. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got these big bundles, and so a cable company,

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<v Speaker 1>a cable provider, not the not the mega corporations that

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>own all the channels, but a company like Comcast takes

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<v Speaker 1>a look and says, well, you know, I'll go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and pay for this big bundle of channels because I

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>want this one or two channels that are really popular

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>for my subscribers. I'll pass the cost onto the subscribers,

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.719
<v Speaker 1>so that will help determine how much the monthly bill is.

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>And then you, as a subscriber to get your monthly bill.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think, I don't even watch half these channels,

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>or even of these channels, I never watch any of them.

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Why am I paying for all these channels? Well, the

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>reason you're paying is because these mega companies that own

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 1>multiple channels are saying this is the only way we're

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:11.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna play. So that's a complicated business side of the

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>cable industry. Now we'll talk about reasons why people want

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to cut chords. Part of it. We've just addressed this

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>idea of I don't want to pay for that. Why

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>don't I just pay for the things I like? Why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you create a cable plan where I can pick

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<v Speaker 1>specifically which channels I like, and I will pay that.

0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you make the bill so that it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense compared to how many channels I want, like you

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>might say I want one local Channel, I want Comedy Central,

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I want Sci Fi, and I want h Discovery And

0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, those are the channels I want and

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Well, then you know you would expect the

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<v Speaker 1>bill to be different than if you were to get

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<v Speaker 1>a big package with five channels. The problem is, because

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of this bundle deal, there's no incentive really for the

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>big company needs to do this. I mean it would

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>mean that it would mean that other channels would suffer.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And like we said, there are there's plenty of good

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.879
<v Speaker 1>programming out there that you just might not be interested in.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>It's just not your thing. But if they are not

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>bundled with the big channels, that they might fail and

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>they might not be able to to fund the creation

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 1>of these programs, right. And then if you're talking about

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a drop in the amount of revenue that goes to

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the channels themselves, the people who are funding the creation

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of this content, then you don't have money to produce

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the content, right exactly. So it's really complicated. You can't

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>just say let's go ala carte, because if we were

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to try that, let's say that tomorrow everyone decided that

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>a la carte is the way to go, you would

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>rapidly see a lot of shows die off or at

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>least have their production values cut severely. It would it

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>would be an extinction level event in the industry. It

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>would be a huge shake up. It would be crazy.

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it would be tough. I mean it would

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>be as as a consumer, that's the thing that sounds

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like it makes the most sense to me, right as

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a consumer. As a consumer, you can totally see the

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.400
<v Speaker 1>benefit to you from from the side of I get

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>what I pay for. From the creative incorporate standpoint, of course,

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I understand why they why they want to, you know,

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>continue creating what they're creating. Right. And another another reason

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are looking at cord cutting is

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this concept of time shifting. Now, time shifting is something

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it means that you're watching a program when you want

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to as opposed to win the program airs right, right,

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>The DVR is becoming a you know, big enough storage

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>capacity wise not in size um and uh well yeah,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean like and be cheap enough. Right. This the

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>start with the VCR obviously, but then the DVR made

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>it much easier and now has incorporated into a lot

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>of cable companies and satellite companies equipment where you can

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>have DVRs as part of the actual cable box. But

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 1>beyond that, there are now services out there where you

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>can get access to more than just the last episode

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>or the last three episodes you might be able to

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 1>get assuming that you remembered to hit record and that

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing wiggy happen VR and etcetera, etcetera. With these other services,

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you can see the last like five seasons of a show.

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's that kind of freedom that also gets people saying,

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>why do I need to have a cable subscription if

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I have access to all of this now? The answer

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>to that, I would argue, is that you want access

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to the most recent material, which is not always possible online.

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you are a bunch around a bunch

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>of chatter boxes like I am all the time, something's

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna get spoiled. And seriously, people, you have to wait

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>until Tuesday morning before you can talk about breaking bad

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>because I watched that episode the day after it airs,

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>all right, that's just me? Okay. So anyway, the time

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>shift and the the idea of this ala carta the

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>two big things that a lot of people really really want.

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>They also want accessibility across multiple devices. That's the other

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>big thing. Sure, sure, because you're not always you're not

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>always in front of your television. You want to be

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>able to watch it on your laptop or on your

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>iPad or etcetera. Right, Right, So, getting back to that

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>whole bundling thing, not everybody is a big fan of that,

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 1>including some of the cable providers. For example, Cable Vision

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>filed a lawsuit against Viacom because Cable Vision was objecting

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 1>to being forced to pay for channels that very few

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>subscribers ever watched, but they were being forced to pay

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>for for them because Viacom said, if you want MTV

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and Nickelodeon, then you also have to take all these

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>other channels. And uh so Cable Vision has filed a lawsuit.

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 1>That lawsuit is still that was filed in early that's

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>that's not been resolved yet as the recording of this podcast. So,

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, this is something that we're still starting to

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:40.479
<v Speaker 1>see unravel even within the industry itself, beyond just the

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>consumer level, where you've got customers saying I'm tired of

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>having this experience of paying for stuff I don't use.

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we've we've kind of wrapped up that's

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of where we are today industry. Yeah. So,

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>like I said, there there are certain things in the

0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>cable industry that I certainly find very frustrating as a consumer.

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily think that all cable companies are trying

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>something really innovative. A lot of them are just kind

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of attempting to force the way things were into a new,

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a new world, and it doesn't It's it's like trying

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>to fit a square a square peg in a round hole.

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But that being said, I know that there are a

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of companies out there that are looking into different

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>ways of creating content and distributing content, some of which

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 1>are creating, you know, backing some of the streaming services,

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but a lot of individual channels will also um air

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>their shows online streaming on you know, like like MTV

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>site has a lot of MTV s shows right right,

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, again, as a consumer, that can

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>get a little frustrating because I know a lot of

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>consumers just want to be able to go to one

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>place and get all the stuff that they want. I

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think that world is ever going to be not

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<v Speaker 1>a near future, yeah, it's all I think it's always

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be that you're going to have to pick

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>and choose which services you subscribe to in order to

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>get specific tie of material. There's gonna be a lot

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 1>of overlap, but there's also gonna be some some areas

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>outside that ven diagram that you are not gonna be

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>able to access unless you subscribe to multiple services. So

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that wraps up this discussion. Guys, let us know what

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.640
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0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.560
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