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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wellness on Masks, where we peel back the

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Speaker 1: your host, doctor Nicole Sapphire, and today we are diving

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Speaker 1: into a topic that stirs up some concern, confusion, and

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Speaker 1: a huge amount of controversy. And it recently stormed its

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Speaker 1: way into the mainstream news cycle following the tragic Texas floods.

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Speaker 1: When reports surface that cloud seating had taken place just

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Speaker 1: days before the deadly weather event. People across the country

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Speaker 1: started asking what is really going on in our skies?

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Speaker 1: From reportedly harmless jet contrails versus the harmful chem trails

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Speaker 1: to the real world science of cloud seating and weather modification.

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Speaker 1: We're going to unpack the facts and talk about the

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Speaker 1: fears with someone who has deeply researched this. And then

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Speaker 1: there's just a whole nother layer here, this growing concern

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Speaker 1: of what some people call the secret large Scale Atmospheric

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Speaker 1: Program or SLAP. This is a alleging that the government

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Speaker 1: and elites are conducting covert aerosolt spraying operations on a

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Speaker 1: global scale. Now, while these claims have been widely dismissed

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Speaker 1: by the scientific community and the government, they continue to persist,

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Speaker 1: and they're fueled by an era of increasing public distrust

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Speaker 1: in institutions, tech, and government. Joining me today is Ariana Masters.

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Speaker 1: She's an anthropologist, environmental journalist, speaker, and an advocate for

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Speaker 1: scientific transparency. So, whether you're a skeptic, a scientist, or

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Speaker 1: simply just someone trying to make sense of these headlines

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Speaker 1: like me, this is a conversation.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to miss.

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Speaker 1: And joining me today is Areana Masters, an anthropologists, environmental journalists, speaker,

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Speaker 1: and an advocast for scientific transparency. So now, whether you're

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Speaker 1: a skeptic, a scientist, or just simply someone trying to

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Speaker 1: make sense of these headlines, this is a conversation you

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Speaker 1: do not want to miss.

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Speaker 2: Areana.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you here today. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for being on Wellness on Mass.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. This is so much fun.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to do the you know, the

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Speaker 1: bird's eye view right now? Can you just break it down?

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Speaker 1: What exactly are chem trails? And how did you know?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: People consider?

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Speaker 1: It? Still a theory gain so much traction online.

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Speaker 3: So the thing is there's this, there's cloud seating, and

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Speaker 3: then there's chem trailing and Honestly, in many ways they

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Speaker 3: are very similar because kem trail just means a chemical trail,

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Speaker 3: which cloud seating essentially, that's what that is. You know,

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Speaker 3: let's focus on Let's focus on kem trails first, because

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Speaker 3: cloud seating is real, but there is still some question

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Speaker 2: So I consider cloud seating kem trails as well.

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Speaker 3: But yes, when you talk about kem trails, people are

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Speaker 3: typically referring to very high altitude trails, you know, like

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Speaker 2: Feet up.

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Speaker 3: Trails that comes from I mean, I'm sure you've heard

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Speaker 3: about patents. You know, we can talk about patents all

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Speaker 3: they talk about that is, you know, just dispersing silver iodide,

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Speaker 3: You can also use it to mitigate hail and disperse fog.

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Speaker 3: But when it comes to kem trails, you know, they

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Speaker 2: At trying to differentiate between the two.

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Speaker 3: You know, kem trails has this so like super crazy

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Speaker 3: negative connotation and anything online when it refers to kemtrails.

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Speaker 2: When you google can trails.

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Speaker 3: It's all negative and it will and it will say,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a it's government controlled conspiracy and all that,

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Speaker 3: and to some degree it might be totally true. But

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Speaker 3: the primary differentiation between cloud seating and chemtrails are the

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Speaker 1: Right, well, you just touched on something which, now that

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to educate myself a little bit

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Speaker 1: on chemtrails is what people call slap for the whole

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of slap before?

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Speaker 3: You know, I haven't looked into it much, but I've

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Speaker 1: So, you know, the knee jerk response from the quote

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Speaker 1: chemtrails are they just point to contrails, which are essentially

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Speaker 1: And so for me, I was like whoa wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say that there's no evidence of it. They're like,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the word conspiracy, it's used so often.

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Speaker 2: I think people kind of forget what it means, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, a conspiracy is this it's like a secret plan, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so much evidence that it is occurring.

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Speaker 3: For instance, you know, I won't go through I mean, gosh, guys,

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Speaker 3: whoever's listening, there are there's like over one thousand patents

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Speaker 3: all about using electromagnetic radiation to alter regional atmospheric conditions.

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Speaker 2: Advanced radar and communications supposedly. But these companies, by the way,

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Speaker 3: That was one of the foundational those were they were

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Speaker 3: like another nineteen ninety nine to one where they use

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Speaker 3: aluminum oxide and barium they throw it into the stratosphere.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, those are two of the chemicals that they continue

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Speaker 3: And this one is one of the patents that they

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Speaker 3: they're patented, it doesn't mean they're being utilized. However, we

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Speaker 3: keep seeing these patents be used. And not only that,

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Speaker 3: but so many studies.

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Speaker 2: I mean countless studies.

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Speaker 3: Guys are finding aluminum and barium, I mean also strontium,

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Speaker 2: You're finding a lot, a lot of polymers. Crazy things.

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Speaker 1: Are chemicals are associated with dementia, cancer, autoimmune disease, chronicle

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Speaker 1: some negative consequences, like all of the plastic that we

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Speaker 1: a recogoning of we need to maybe you know, claw.

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Speaker 3: Us back well, absolutely, and you know, and there's an

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Speaker 3: of course, again, I won't go into too many more.

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Speaker 3: I'll mention literally two more patents and I'm done. But

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Speaker 3: two thousand and one patent talks about using pulsed laser

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Speaker 3: And I mean, that's insane today.

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Speaker 3: These programs inject these aerosols into the stratosphere. It's over

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Speaker 2: The trump isphere.

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Speaker 2: Going to remain there a while and it accumulates over time.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of studies suggest that when you do

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Speaker 3: the whole purpose of this is to supposedly.

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Speaker 3: And by the way I've looked through now, I've downloaded

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Speaker 3: But anyway, North American Weather Consultants have a ton of contracts,

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Speaker 2: They've been around since the Night nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 3: It's just consulting since two thousand and seven, Atmospheric sink

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Speaker 2: But anyway, the rainmaker guy, so he's this.

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Speaker 3: You've got these big time, big dog companies been around decades,

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Speaker 2: So here's a question I have for you.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm from Arizona and obviously very much of a drought,

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Speaker 3: I definitely understand the argument for for cloud seating. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: We obviously want utility companies to be.

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Speaker 2: Sorry for repeating myself multiple times.

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Speaker 3: But essentially, when you're pulling moisture out of the air

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Speaker 2: Next generation whether? Next generation radar? Hold on, wait, I

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Speaker 3: And I mean there's from a toxicity standpoint, I don't

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Speaker 2: I mean, the EPA declared that I think it was.

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Speaker 3: There are thousands of contracts. Those are just the disclosed contracts.

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Speaker 3: in the stratosphere and how it was causing increased humidity

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Speaker 3: down below. And then there's like studies where you find

439
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Speaker 3: the aluminum and barium, and there's there's a lot of

440
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Speaker 3: universities doing conducting studies on their soil and they're finding aluminum.

441
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Speaker 2: And bear So I don't know.

442
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think from a toxicity standpoint, the

443
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: consequences outweigh the benefits.

444
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Speaker 1: You're listening to wellness and mass. We'll be right back

445
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: with more. There has to be some sort of oversight.

446
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that you know we saw through

447
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: COVID conspiracy theories proved true sometimes and when it comes

448
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: to the notion of chemtrails, you know, with enough data

449
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: showing these contaminants in the soil, it will take people

450
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Speaker 1: at the EPA, at the FAA to kind of listen

451
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: to people and you'd either prove or disprove it, right, Like,

452
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: all they really need to do is redoce some of

453
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Speaker 1: the studies. We have to kind of get away from

454
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Speaker 1: calling people conspiracy theorists because we already have this growing

455
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 1: this way to bridge the gap with science, trust and transparency.

456
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's dangerous to just dismiss people when

457
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: their whole goal is to maintain the health of the nation.

458
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing I think.

459
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: I think conspiracy theorist being used as an insult makes

460
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: no sense because someone who is who is thinking openly

461
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 3: about their government and about how things work around them,

462
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: and are speaking out when they see something strange, if anything,

463
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: that the guardians of the country, that the guardians of

464
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: the civilization, that the guardians of the safety and the

465
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 3: protection of the people. Because you have to you have

466
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Speaker 3: to think, you have to theorize, you have to consider,

467
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: because I mean, that's the.

468
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Speaker 2: Foundation of science.

469
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Speaker 3: The theorists, you hear the theorize, yeah, and the word

470
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Speaker 3: conspiracy is that and then they're simply because you know,

471
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Speaker 3: sometimes follow the.

472
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: Mainstream reading it.

473
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Speaker 1: So what do you think that I'd say scientists, but

474
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: it's really the government at this point. The government needs

475
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Speaker 1: to do something. But so what do you think that

476
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Speaker 1: these agencies?

477
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Speaker 2: One, do you think.

478
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Speaker 1: They've done enough to explain atmospheric science and whether or

479
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Speaker 1: modifiation to the public. And my guess is going to

480
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: be no, what do you think they could do for

481
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: greater transparency and to really investigate that, would you know,

482
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: suffice the people who have concerns about countries.

483
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: I think there is an obvious.

484
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: Effort to keep this information away from the public as

485
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 3: best and as long as possible. I think these programs

486
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 3: have been going on for decades. I mean I don't

487
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: think I know it's obvious, and I mean you could

488
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: just look at the cloud seating contracts that are available

489
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: on the NOA Library and pretty soon on my website

490
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 3: because I'm reorganizing all of them because I think their

491
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: organization sucks on purpose, and I think that all cloud

492
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: seating can and and aerosola and putting aerosols into the

493
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 3: stratosphere as we talked about, by the way, that wasn't

494
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: that was the I. It was Mi t that found

495
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Speaker 3: that that doing that can actually increase surface level.

496
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Speaker 1: So the bottom of the barrel scientists.

497
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: But I mean, I think that it's very possible that

498
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: all of this aerosolized activity is actually.

499
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: Quite possibly creating the exacerbation.

500
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Speaker 3: Of these weather events that we've been seeing, the very

501
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: weather events that they use as an excuse for geo

502
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: engineering today. And it's interesting because if that were the case,

503
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: that would be brilliant to experiment for decades creating widespread

504
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: weather issues of anomalies all over the place. Then say, oh,

505
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: you know what, it looks like global warming is really

506
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: playing a role here. We have the exacerbation of these

507
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: hurricanes and these thunderstorms and these tornadoes and these winds. Wow,

508
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: we've never seen this before. Maybe what we need to

509
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: do is start cloud seating. Maybe we need to start

510
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: geo engineering that we can help to defend against these

511
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: these global warming symptoms. But meanwhild it's very possible that

512
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: all these crazy, crazy floods and storms are actually not

513
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: a result of global warming. Maybe the result of all

514
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: this experimentation that's been going on for decades and we

515
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 3: have the evidence to back it up. And yeah, we

516
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: haven't talked about next Red yet. But I don't know

517
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: if there's a nefarious reason for these programs. I don't

518
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: know if there's something astronomical happening to the planet where

519
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: maybe maybe there's something far beyond our understanding that's happening

520
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: to the planet that the higher ups know about. They

521
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: don't want to spread panics, so they're keeping it secret.

522
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: Maybe geoengineering is being used to actually help us survive

523
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: and whatever is going on.

524
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe there is some kind of.

525
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: An altruistic motive to them doing this, and maybe maybe

526
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: the benefits of this program outweigh the consequences, but we

527
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: just don't know what those consequences are. Or maybe there

528
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: is actual and actual movement to depopulate the planet, and

529
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of evidence to suggest that

530
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: might be the case, just simply from the whole entire

531
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Speaker 3: pandemic in the vaccine that's been spread around that. I mean,

532
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Speaker 3: I don't know how anyone can argue that vaccine was

533
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: designed to help people.

534
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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

535
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,479
Speaker 3: I don't know what the reason is, but I do

536
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: think there is an obvious movement to keep the information quiet,

537
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: and now that it's not quiet, I think they're trying

538
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: their best to market it as.

539
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: As friendly as.

540
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Speaker 3: They possibly can, in a way that people will actually

541
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Speaker 3: accept it as being beneficial.

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Speaker 1: Cloud break the quote vaccine certainly is worthy of its

543
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Speaker 1: own conversation.

544
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll have to have you back on for that.

545
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Speaker 2: Well we are.

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Speaker 1: You're starting to see politicians taking action. You have Governor

547
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: DeSantis in Florida. They passed the Senate Bill fifty six.

548
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Speaker 1: He signed it and makes weather modification a third degree

549
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: fell at me punishable by one hundred thousand dollars fine.

550
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: So that's happening in Flora. We already saw Marjorie Taylor

551
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: Green announcing her efforts on a federal level.

552
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: I really look to.

553
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: The EPA, maybe the AHS under RFK Junior. I mean,

554
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: he's taking broad brushstrokes trying to look at the chronic

555
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: illness epidemic here in our country. You know, he's looking

556
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: at vaccines, the foods and some other things.

557
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: But it's more than that.

558
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: It's it has to be looking at the air, what's

559
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: in our soil.

560
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: So he might help that too. He knows that, and

561
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Speaker 2: I would like to know. I don't know.

562
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: Part of me thinks maybe he's remaining quiet because he

563
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: really is doing some digging.

564
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope.

565
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: So, but I got to tell you, these state bans,

566
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: all these people know that those don't work because the.

567
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Federal because it's a federal level.

568
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying, I'm saying that the state

569
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: doesn't even exist technically above four hundred to a thousand

570
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: feet in the air.

571
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Is that becomes the United States of America.

572
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: So the state, the state only has jurisdiction up to

573
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: four hundred feet in rural air and you know, more

574
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 3: vacant areas.

575
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: It can go up to a thousand feet above that,

576
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: state laws play no role.

577
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: That is one hundred percent of federal cloud seating occurs

578
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: ten to ten to twenty thousand feet in the air,

579
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: and chemtrails occur over forty thousand feet in the air

580
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: up in the stratosphere.

581
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Speaker 2: So no state can ban it. No state has the

582
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: power to ban it. That's why no one's.

583
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: Seeing it stop and they know that they know this,

584
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: But it's important to ban it because we need to

585
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: bring attention to it, and we need to put it

586
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: in the news.

587
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: We need to acknowledge on a state level that this exists.

588
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: And we're not okay with it, and then it lays

589
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: the way for a federal ban, which which is occurring.

590
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: The problem is these federal bands they incorporate.

591
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Aerostolized injections, but and ground based aerosolized and injections because

592
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: there's a ton of ground programs, I mean, like so

593
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: many ground generators.

594
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: Putting aerosols into the air. Airlines are not the only

595
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: way to do it. That's question.

596
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: So I have so you guys, are you believe that

597
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: the chemtrails that these companies are working with, like the

598
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: commercial airlines to get that high and create them by

599
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: the big jets, So they're dispersing something from these companies

600
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Speaker 1: when they're flying passengers.

601
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, I'm confused when you say these companies, are

602
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: you what are you like, you know, like Southwest, like

603
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 3: main airliners?

604
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like are these commercial jetliners Are they the ones

605
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: who are creating these chemtrails in the skies or so?

606
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: RFK said this, and so many people in the movement

607
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: dismissed him, But I no, I agree with him. So

608
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: he said that he believes that the commercial airliners are

609
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 3: putting something in the jet fuel and not them, but

610
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: the fuel. The fuel source is part of the program

611
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: and it's just.

612
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: Like normal pollution from jet fuel. Or is there something

613
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: intentional in the jet fuel?

614
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: On a personal level, On a personal level, I know

615
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: what he's saying is true.

616
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Speaker 2: I can't prove it to you yet.

617
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: But because I watch the radar every single day and

618
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: I record it and I put it out so that

619
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: there's a record, because you can't actually go back in

620
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: time on these platforms, I know that these trails exist

621
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Speaker 3: and they're coming from commercial airliners in addition to military

622
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: because I saw black lines, black lines, black lines, black

623
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: lines caking. By the way, I don't know if you

624
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: know this when I say I look at radar, I

625
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: look at radar for the entire planet every single day.

626
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: I know where they trail and I know where they

627
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: don't trail on a consistent basis. Canada, United States, just

628
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: off the coast of America on both sides, by far

629
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: trail more than anywhere on Earth. Anywhere on Earth. Europe

630
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: gets them all the time, but they're lo were altitude.

631
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: They get haze NonStop, and the people in the comments

632
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: say that too. China's got the biggest geo engineering program

633
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: in the world. But I don't see many of their

634
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: trails there. I think mostly that money is going towards

635
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 3: ground based generators. But you never see them in Africa.

636
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: You barely see them in South America or Mexico. You

637
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: barely see them in Australia. I know they get them sometime,

638
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: are just.

639
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Based on normal air traffic control patterns, like they just

640
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: don't have as much traffic.

641
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, I.

642
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: Know you're saying this for your audience, but you know,

643
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: I mean China, Come on, Asia, they have a ridiculous

644
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: amount of air traffic, and.

645
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: So does South America, you know, and and Europe.

646
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: Europe does too. Their their trails are a different brand.

647
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: They've always looked slightly different. And and Australia has a

648
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: ton of air traffic. But really, if you want to

649
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 3: compare air traffic, look at Asia. I mean, my gosh,

650
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: they have problem any any country on Earth. And no,

651
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: you do not see the kind of trails that you see.

652
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this, This is how I know

653
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: that there really are real because I was trying to

654
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: prove to myself that they were real, because I'm like,

655
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: maybe because I'm never convinced that the information I have

656
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: is right. I'm always trying to make sure that I'm

657
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 3: not digging miners. Well, yeah, I mean I want I

658
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: don't want to dig myself into a hole where I'm

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Speaker 3: filled with the wrong information. Like I don't want to

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Speaker 3: be in a cult. I want to be I want

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Speaker 3: the right information. I don't care what that information is.

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Speaker 3: But here's the interesting thing. USA was cut and the

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Speaker 3: two days following were the only two days ever until

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Speaker 3: recently that I didn't see a single trail on radar

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Speaker 3: on any part of the continental US. I had seen

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Speaker 3: it every single day taking Continental US, and USA gets

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Speaker 3: cut and all of a sudden, no trails for forty

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Speaker 3: eight hours.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but clearly there was

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Speaker 2: a funding issue.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, is interesting if we had such decrease

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Speaker 1: air traffic during the two years following COVID, and if

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Speaker 1: they weren't able to do the chemtrails as much because

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Speaker 1: they weren't having that liner, so we saw the pollution

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Speaker 1: was down.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there were massive changes.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it'd be interesting to see if there was

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Speaker 1: anything any sort of change in the environment at that time.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's too late at this point to do that research.

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Speaker 1: That would have been prime time, you know for me

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Speaker 1: looking at this from a policy standpoint, I think RFK

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Speaker 1: Junior at the AJHS, Pete Hegseth DoD and Sean Duffy

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Speaker 1: at FAA and also NASA now would be very interesting

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Speaker 1: trio to kind of come together and see if they

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Speaker 1: could put something together for the American people.

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Speaker 2: Well for sure, And.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I hadn't seen them stop trailing except

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Speaker 3: for that USAID cut, but three weeks ago or when

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Speaker 3: the Iranian missile strike happened.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been about three weeks, maybe it's.

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Speaker 3: In a month now when that happened. Ever since then,

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen a normal trail over the United States.

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Speaker 3: It's it's been weeks, and all my viewers are like

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Speaker 3: waiting to start seeing them again. We're seeing them blatantly

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Speaker 3: obvious in the Atlantic and the Pacific and in Canada

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Speaker 3: they're still going crazy over their stinks because you know,

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Speaker 3: they've got wildfires and stuff, and there's you know, these

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Speaker 3: metals that are in these aerosols can actually exacerbate wildfires

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Speaker 3: because metal heats up like crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're basically blanketing.

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Speaker 3: An area and metal and then lighting it on fire

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Speaker 3: and it becomes very hot from all these metal particulates.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's aside the point.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know what the United States is doing,

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Speaker 3: and anyone anyone listening, I hope if you know what's

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Speaker 3: going on, please message me, because I have a theory

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Speaker 3: that they're either decreasing their program or I was right

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Speaker 3: and three months ago they changed their formula because it

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Speaker 3: looks completely different.

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Speaker 2: It looks completely different.

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Speaker 3: It's it's hazing out rapidly and everyone is just seeing

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Speaker 3: this white haze now. So I think they figured out

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Speaker 3: a way too to haze it out rapidly and maybe

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Speaker 3: even save money doing it. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 3: also think you probably want to talk about next Red

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Speaker 3: for a minute before we before we get off, because

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Speaker 3: that's it. That's probably the most important part of geo engineering,

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Speaker 3: is the frequency manipulation, more so than the aerosol dispersal itself.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a radiologist, so all sorts of frequencies in

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Speaker 1: the atmosphere have concerned me.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, then you're going to be fun to talk to.

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Speaker 3: So Next Red, you know, next Ride, it's next generation radar,

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Speaker 3: it's it's pulsed microwave energy, and it's in the S band,

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Speaker 3: so that's strong enough to penetrate heavy rain.

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Speaker 2: That's why it's used for What kind is it?

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Speaker 3: It's a microwave, yeah, and it's in the S band,

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Speaker 3: so it's used for weather radar.

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Speaker 2: So they're peak.

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Speaker 3: Their peak pulse that they disclose is about seven hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty thousand watts.

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Speaker 2: Just pretty impressive.

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Speaker 3: So officials say though that it's safe because like you

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Speaker 3: only get exposed to it microseconds at a time, so

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Speaker 3: average average exposure is low.

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Speaker 2: But here's here's the thing. People like me.

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Speaker 3: Who actually watch are very consistently noticing these concentric rings,

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Speaker 3: these radial blooms, these spiraling pulsing ratear like usually over

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Speaker 3: the more intense storms, and you can actually see them

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Speaker 3: happening before the storm even becomes intense. And meteorologists will

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Speaker 3: say they when they see the stuff I share, they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: that's a glitch. That's a reflection off of like birds

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Speaker 3: or insects. I tell you, I look at this every

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Speaker 3: day and it shows up consistently, and before four months ago,

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Speaker 3: I very rarely saw it. Ever now I'm seeing it

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Speaker 3: all day every day, usually in Texas usually in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the country, all of these storms that have

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Speaker 3: been producing tornadoes, I see it and sometimes I'll see

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Speaker 3: the pulse go for go NonStop for days, NonStop. Big

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Speaker 3: spiral in the Carolinas went for like forty eight hours once.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, like I said, I mostly see that kind

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Speaker 3: of activity in the Carolinas, in Texas and lately California.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the question becomes, are these towers.

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Speaker 3: Really just a passive radar or are they doing more

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Speaker 3: than what we're told So, and if you combine that

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Speaker 3: with aerosols like aluminumberbarium, which are already up in the atmosphere,

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Speaker 3: and then put you're pulsing high energy microwave beams through

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Speaker 3: those particles, that could really affect things.

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Speaker 2: It could influence cloud.

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Speaker 3: It definitely could influence cloud for me in disrupt storm

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Speaker 3: structure and increase lighting.

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Speaker 2: You can do some wild stuff with next RED. And

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Speaker 2: it's not it's not speculation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we've got the patents, we've got the technology,

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Speaker 3: we can see what's going on on radar.

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Speaker 2: What we don't have is transparency, and and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's definitely concerning, and there are definitely

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Speaker 3: health outcomes to consider. In fact, the health outcomes for

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Speaker 3: this radiation exposure is more concerning to me than the

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Speaker 3: aerosols being sprayed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a radiologist, so I honestly I think

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Speaker 1: they would be pretty equal. But I mean I get

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. I mean, the aerosolized chemicals, radiation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's all it's all things that terrify me. I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately there say it really goes back to

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Speaker 1: RFP juniors make.

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Speaker 2: America healthy again.

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Speaker 1: I think chemicals were put in, ultra process, foons were

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Speaker 1: put in.

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Speaker 2: There is a positive impetus behind it.

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Speaker 1: Stand why people were doing these things, make it low cost,

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Speaker 1: more efficient.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they're proving to

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Speaker 2: be very harmful. So it's so much harder to roll

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Speaker 2: it back.

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Speaker 1: And maybe some of these weather programs decades ago, forty

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Speaker 1: fifty years ago, when you started seeing these patents coming out,

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Speaker 1: there was a positive notion behind them. But as we

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Speaker 1: can see how sick our environment is, how sick we are,

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Speaker 1: when are we going to be transparent about it and

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Speaker 1: when are we going to start rolling back? Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know, just from a radiation perspective,

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Speaker 3: I mean, gosh, if people are actually being affected by this,

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Speaker 3: if the theories are true, than anyone listening. And this is,

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Speaker 3: by the way, these are the if and I put

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Speaker 3: this in a chat GPT, I was like, if someone

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Speaker 3: were to be exposed to this seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: watts for hours straight, what would the symptoms be? And

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Speaker 3: it said it says the stuff that my comment everyone

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Speaker 3: you commented at a well, it's like hut pressure, buzzing, dizziness, vertigo,

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Speaker 3: light sound sensitivity, waking up at three am every morning,

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Speaker 3: short term memory loss, brain fall, car palpitations, chest tightness,

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00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: poor circulation, temperature dysregulation, blood pressure, swings, sweating, fever, skin burning, fatigue, weakness.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the list their sources of radiation everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we just there's a huge paper that was

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Speaker 1: just published showing medical radiation is causing a significant amount

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Speaker 1: of cancer. So you know, I mean, we could just

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Speaker 1: talk about this forever. But I think, as you're saying forever,

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Speaker 1: I think that, honestly, transparency is what I'm going to

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Speaker 1: ask for from this Trump administration. And I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: Arianna that you came on. You brought an evidence based

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Speaker 1: approach to this I am someone who really appreciates objective

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Speaker 1: findings and evidence based medicine and science, and so it's

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Speaker 1: great to hear your perspective. And you came bringing receipts

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Speaker 1: and that's all I can ask for. So thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, and I'll give.

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Speaker 3: You that you l for the sources for everything, but

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Speaker 3: but yeah, thank you for where.

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Speaker 2: People find you. I'm I'm Ariana Masters.

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Speaker 3: You can take me in on every any social media,

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Speaker 3: but you go to my website Arianamasters dot com because

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Speaker 3: I do want I want you, guys, anyone listening to

823
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: really have links to good studies, to source to people

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00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: who are naysayers for.

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Speaker 2: Studies that prove what's in the soil.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's out, it's there on the internet that

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Speaker 3: they make it hard for you to find. But I

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Speaker 3: spent a really long time trying to find this stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna put it on because there's so much

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Speaker 3: more that I didn't even talk about. But yeah, go

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Speaker 3: to my website airindimasters dot com. I'm probably gonna create

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put a thing in there called facts. I'll

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Speaker 3: probably do it before this airs, so it should be

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Speaker 3: available tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: All right, perfect, well, thanks so much, appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Arianna, thank you so much for bringing such a thoughtful,

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Speaker 1: evidence based voice to a conversation that's too often hijacked

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00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: by extremes. Whether it's just a healthy dose of skepticism

839
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: or making sure we have healthy skies, this episode reminds

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00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: us that real wellness means staying informed. I have concerns

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00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: about the environment. I've talked about chronic illness and what

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00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: we are consuming, whether it's our food, our beverage, what

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00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: we're putting on our bodies in terms of lotion, cosmetics,

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Speaker 1: what we're breathing in.

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Speaker 2: In our air.

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Speaker 1: We certainly are seeing more chemicals in our soil samples,

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Speaker 1: our air samples. Where is it all coming from? Is

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Speaker 1: it just simply, I guess we can say, simply from

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Speaker 1: chemical pollutants, whether they're the cars, whether there are airplanes,

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Speaker 1: or whether there's something more intentional going on.

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Speaker 2: And it seems like.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of patents, there are companies that

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Speaker 1: are all focusing on these weather engineering, whether it's cloud seating.

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Speaker 1: Is this having consequences on our health? Is the benefit

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Speaker 1: does the outweigh the risk? Does the risk out weigh

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Speaker 1: the benefit. All I ask for is transparency, so I

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Speaker 1: would really like to know a little bit more about it.

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Speaker 1: There seems like there's evidence suggesting that there may be

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00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: some consequences to these actions. Again, I ask for transparency.

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Speaker 1: That's all I ask for from the government, from these institutions.

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Speaker 1: I'm doctor Nicole Sapphire. I hope that we all stay curious,

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Speaker 1: do our best to stay healthy. Thanks for listening to

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