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Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 1: There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying

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Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 3: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 1: Worry use your host. Stephen k Maas.

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Speaker 4: Sources at the Department of Justice to NBC News that

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Speaker 4: freshly released from prison himself, wasted no time in promising revenge.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Clark has going to be the Attorney General of

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Speaker 4: No one is happier about that than Trump and his allies.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is Jeorge.

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Speaker 5: But let's just say there are some decent Republicans who

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Speaker 9: Honored to have made my MSNBC debut yesterday? But today

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Speaker 9: In the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four, Stephen K.

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Speaker 9: But I think that that fundamentally misconstrues how we view immigration.

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Speaker 2: Look in sixteen, I thought it did a pretty good job,

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Speaker 2: To get seventy six to seventy eight million votes, where

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Speaker 2: All the votes are still not counted, particularly in places

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Speaker 9: on mobilizing and you know, militarizing lowercase m you know,

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Speaker 9: ice and all these various agencies to carry out what's

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Speaker 9: going on at the White House. Which I think the

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Speaker 9: corollary to that is that whoever's running ppo the staffing

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Speaker 9: the personnel office within the White House is going to

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Speaker 9: be a very, very important position. But I also think

447
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Speaker 9: you're already starting to see a chorus of news articles

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Speaker 9: and especially on the resistance side, the organizing, the activism

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Speaker 9: all of these left wing groups. Right it's sort of

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Speaker 9: the new derivation I think of left wing lawfare where

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Speaker 9: they'll be defending these people from mass deportations. On MSNBC,

452
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Speaker 9: they're talking about how they want to sue you know,

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Speaker 9: every raid, every late night raid. We're going to make

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Speaker 9: sure that they have every payment. You know, We're going

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Speaker 9: to make it really difficult for the Trump administration to

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Speaker 9: carry this stuff out. So many of these left wing

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Speaker 9: groups are right by the dark money, by these forces

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Speaker 9: that then tie in more broadly to the you know,

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Speaker 9: wonderful umbrella that is the cultural and color revolution. So

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Speaker 9: I think by identifying the donors, you know, bringing in

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Speaker 9: the Mike Benzes of the world. Again, like we said,

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Speaker 9: whether it's on the congressional side of things, are coming

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Speaker 9: from the White House, but to really expose an unmask

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Speaker 9: who is behind a lot of these activists groups, I

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Speaker 9: think that that is something that's going to be very important.

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Speaker 7: But I also think.

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Speaker 9: Too that this Posse just needs to to really buckle up.

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Speaker 9: We saw what the media hurled against us in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 9: right the scary sob stories of the children and oh,

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Speaker 9: you know, the little grandma. It is up to us

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Speaker 9: to win the narrative battle because we're not just like

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Speaker 9: I was talking about in the previous segment, We're not

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Speaker 9: just up against the Democrats right on fighting the mass

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Speaker 9: deportation stuff. I'd say there's probably more of an almost

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Speaker 9: insurmountable sort of embed within the Republican Party that's going

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Speaker 9: to be opposing the mass deeps, and they're already coming

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Speaker 9: out now trying to sort of reframe the issue, make

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Speaker 9: it a limited hangout a little bit softer than I

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Speaker 9: think the initial punch that this sort of MAGA movement,

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Speaker 9: the war Room Posse crew is probably more down with.

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Speaker 7: And you know what, Steve, the other thing, I would say.

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Speaker 9: There was a story that we broke while while you

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Speaker 9: were in prison, and it was a one of the

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Speaker 9: chief counsel to the USCIS. In his free time, he

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Speaker 9: wasn't satisfied with destroying this country through legal channels of invasion.

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Speaker 9: So in his free time he actually had a TikTok

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Speaker 9: account where he was making videos coaching people on how

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Speaker 9: to avoid deportation a kid. You not how successful illegal

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Speaker 9: aliens were making so much money coming into the United States.

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Speaker 9: Those people should be prosecuted, tried for trees, and frankly,

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Speaker 9: I'd throw people like MAJORCIS in there to set the precedent.

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Speaker 9: There's no pandemic amnesty, there's no invasion amnesty going on.

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Speaker 9: The best way to make sure that this not just

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Speaker 9: doesn't happen again, but that people don't actively try to

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Speaker 9: go out of their way to subvert President Trump is

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Speaker 9: to make examples, not because it's unjustified, but wholly justified

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Speaker 9: examples out of people like MAJORCIS, like these crazy USCIS

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Speaker 9: em beds, like these sorows operatives who've been running immigration

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Speaker 9: policy for so long.

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Speaker 7: We've got about a minute, Steve your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: No, no, I want to go back. You talk about that.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the Rubios and the salosarsad you've got.

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Speaker 2: You talked about our side the fence. Tell the audience

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Speaker 2: what your reporting shows on Jeff Miller. Jeff Miller is

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Speaker 2: you know, camped out in mar Lager for a couple

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Speaker 2: of days before we added him.

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Speaker 1: He's taken off for a while.

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Speaker 2: But he's the guy that's in with some of these

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Speaker 2: people in the transition. He's McCarthy's you know, he's the

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Speaker 2: head of the swamp brigade for McCarthy. And you're the

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Speaker 2: one that went and investigated what's the immigration group.

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Speaker 1: That he's one of his clients.

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Speaker 2: One of the most significant client is is what group

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Speaker 2: Natalie a.

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Speaker 7: US Immigration Services.

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Speaker 9: It's a huge EB five, you know, high profile, high

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Speaker 9: networth individual visa essentially money laundering operation, but really citizenship

518
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Speaker 9: laundering operation. But this audience knows right like we say,

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Speaker 9: it's the fight we always wanted when we say they

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Speaker 9: aren't going to give us the keys to the Kingdom

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Speaker 9: on January twentieth, that they isn't just limited to Democrats, No, no, no,

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Speaker 9: it certainly applies to the sort of I would say

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Speaker 9: shape shifting, you know, trans America first. However, you want

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Speaker 9: to couch it people in the form of Jeff Miller,

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Speaker 9: in the form of Kevin McCarthy who are desperate for relevance,

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Speaker 9: desperate for political power, and they're going to try to

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Speaker 9: glom on like the grifters that they are to your backs,

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Speaker 9: the MAGA movement that drove this victory forward. So it's

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Speaker 9: important to call out the Jeff Millers, who might also

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Speaker 9: add lobbies for Pfizer because of course, but this is

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Speaker 9: what the fight is about, and it's what we have

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Speaker 9: a heck of a lot more control over than we

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Speaker 9: do Democrats for the Resistance Stephen Kvan and Natalie Winter's

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Speaker 9: much more right after the short break.

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Speaker 10: I think we're going to see a lot of you know,

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Speaker 10: courage and resourcefulness at the state level, at the local level.

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Speaker 10: And there's a long history in authoritarian context of this.

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Speaker 10: It works best at the beginning of an authoritarian you

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Speaker 10: know state, or when it's becoming a weak when it's fraying.

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Speaker 10: But there's a long history of bureaucratic resistance inside government,

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Speaker 10: civil servants as well as you know, we have the

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Speaker 10: tradition of states rights, right, and this is part of

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Speaker 10: what these governors are talking about.

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Speaker 9: States rights. I don't know you were allowed to say

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Speaker 9: that anymore. I guess if you're a part of the resistance,

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Speaker 9: you get a pass. But right there to the other

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Speaker 9: veried lead, bureaucratic resistance. Right, that's they're giving you the

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Speaker 9: battle plan, the locus of where a lot of the

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Speaker 9: resist the opposite. Maybe resistance is too nice a term,

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Speaker 9: just like Steve isn't like saying deep state. It's in

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Speaker 9: your face, right, this is not some clandestine operation. This

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Speaker 9: is up in your grill, militant. They're coming for you

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Speaker 9: form of opposition. Like they say, elections are just a tactic.

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Speaker 9: I think four years of democracy drivel counteris against that.

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Speaker 2: Steve, your thoughts, Okay, War and Posse, take your number

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Speaker 2: two princils out.

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Speaker 1: We're going to write some things down. This is the beginning. Okay.

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Speaker 2: This is the other angle, the blocking position of the resistance,

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Speaker 2: and they're using They're going to use the courts and

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Speaker 2: the power of the governments. Look, we believe, as you know, Natalie,

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Speaker 2: in federalism. We believe in the Tenth Amendment. We think

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Speaker 2: it's very important. We'd love pushing things back to the states.

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Speaker 2: That's what we think. Hey, the elections are in state level.

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Speaker 2: We don't need a bunch of federal laws there. There

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Speaker 2: should be state level the state legislature should be on

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Speaker 2: top of these things. Like the Constitution says, we believe

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Speaker 2: that we're a big, huge believer in states rights. Now

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Speaker 2: realize as a kid coming from Richmond, Virginia, that can

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Speaker 2: kind of get loaded sometimes. But President Trump on the

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Speaker 2: abortion issue, he's a huge believer in devolving this back

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Speaker 2: to the states.

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Speaker 1: And that's where we say, hey, even in Ohio and in.

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Speaker 2: Kansas, where the citizens out there have not gone to

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Speaker 2: kind of hard pro life positions but kind of take

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Speaker 2: i think more of a moderate stance, and they're very

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Speaker 2: conservative states. States to Trump are winning by you know,

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Speaker 2: seven and eight points. He's fine with that because of

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Speaker 2: believe state. Here's what's going on, though, I think even

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Speaker 2: more importantly, the twenty twenty eight Democratic primary is starting

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: In that part of the resistance movement.

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Speaker 2: Pritzker, Whittmer, Newsome, Shapiro, they are going to run in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Eight a governor.

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Speaker 2: They've kind of had it with, you know, the people

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Speaker 2: like Kamala Harris. They think their power is governors, and

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Speaker 2: particularly governors of what they think are red states like Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: like Michigan, like Wisconsin that you know, had went for

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Speaker 2: Trump Ump, but have these kind of progressive liberals. So

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Speaker 2: I think, Natalie, what you're seeing here is that folks

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Speaker 2: this part of the of the of what they're calling

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Speaker 2: states rights.

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Speaker 1: What they're saying is that they're going.

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Speaker 2: To block Trump at every effort, and they're going to

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Speaker 2: be very public about It's going to be some very

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Speaker 2: high profile.

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Speaker 1: This is not like you know, pax and the guys.

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Speaker 2: We had them on the show on the twentieth of

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Speaker 2: January twenty twenty one. I admit we had them up

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Speaker 2: there and what they said to the degree that Biden

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Speaker 2: will be follow the Constitution and Mary Garland follow the

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Speaker 2: Constitution and'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Where they're not, they're going to have to step in.

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Speaker 2: And Paxson was the leader of that, but it was

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Speaker 2: never really led at a governor's level. As more ags here,

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Speaker 2: we have ags that started, but the governors are stepping in.

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Speaker 2: Pritsker actually said, if you want to come for my people,

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Speaker 2: you have to come through me the twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 2: Democratic primary to run against the whoever wins the primary

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Speaker 2: and follows President Trump. As the leader of the MAGA

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Speaker 2: movement is going to confront with these governors. And I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you the media is going to cover

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Speaker 2: this like nobody's business. So the twenty twenty eight Democratic

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Speaker 2: primaries started. It started in these big states with these

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Speaker 2: Democratic governors, particularly in the Red states, throwing newsome also,

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Speaker 2: and you're about to see a firestorm in this, ma'am.

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Speaker 9: Shall we call it the fort Sumter of the twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty eight Democratic primary.

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Speaker 7: But I think it's even broader than that.

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Speaker 9: I think you're talking about the future of the entire

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Speaker 9: Democratic Party right, like we were talking about yesterday. How

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Speaker 9: they decide to triage and interpret their loss in twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty four will dictate their strategy going forward. In other words,

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Speaker 9: if they buy into the sort of Alex Wagner mindset, right,

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Speaker 9: the idea that they lost on the issues because they

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Speaker 9: didn't actually tend to what the working class the you know,

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Speaker 9: broad across racial and ethnic lines, that working class issue.

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Speaker 7: If they take that.

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Speaker 9: Side of the coin, then frankly, I think we have

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Speaker 9: a better opponent in the sense that you'll embrace left

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Speaker 9: wing populism. Obviously, they will never be able to touch

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Speaker 9: the issue of immigration, so we'll always run circles around

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Speaker 9: them on that. But I think you're going to see,

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Speaker 9: for lack of a better word, sort of this you know,

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Speaker 9: civil war, whether it'll turn you know, into actual hot

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Speaker 9: kinetic warfare. Their side certainly seems to have a pension

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Speaker 9: for doing that. But the elites, just in the same

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Speaker 9: way that they didn't, you know, want to give Bernie

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Speaker 9: Sanders the nomination, the sort of establishment Democratic Party wing.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that they're going to want to seed

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Speaker 9: that ground, you know, Justice Democrats, the kind of AOC

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Speaker 9: squad type group. They put out their statement squarely blaming

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Speaker 9: the twenty twenty four loss on Democratic leadership, saying we

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Speaker 9: need new leadership, and that's a direct quote.

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Speaker 7: So I think you're going to see that sort of.

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Speaker 9: Internal, for lack of a better word, struggle session break out.

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Speaker 9: And that's why it's really important for this audience to

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Speaker 9: be so attuned to, I think, how they're reacting to

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Speaker 9: their twenty twenty four loss, because it's going to determine

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Speaker 9: their battle plan moving ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think that's brilliant. Also, just to bring up some history,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we're history nuts here.

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Speaker 2: The Civil and then the run up to the Civil

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Speaker 2: War and particularly after President Lincoln was elected. Remember of

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Speaker 2: President Lincoln, you talk about a minority. It didn't get

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Speaker 2: the popular vote. He won an electoral college a huge margin,

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Speaker 2: but the popular vote was significantly below fifty percent. It

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Speaker 2: was wait for it, democratic governors that said that that

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Speaker 2: went up against federal power in what they what they

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Speaker 2: argued was.

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Speaker 1: The South fight for independence. So it's kind of interesting here.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Hey, it's democratic governors and they're really

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Speaker 2: coming after President Trump. This is going to be a major,

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Speaker 2: major battle at every level, and this one particularly when

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Speaker 2: you start doing the deportations. They have said they will

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Speaker 2: fight this every way possible. They had the Attorney general

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Speaker 2: on for Colorado last night. I was able to see

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Speaker 2: maybe play that clip on one of the Monday shows.

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Speaker 2: He was the most aggressive. He said, We're not going

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Speaker 2: to let law enforcement be used. We're not going to

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Speaker 2: let local officials be used. We are teaming up with

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Speaker 2: companies to make sure the companies in the state oppose

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Speaker 2: what President Trump wants to do. So folks just strap

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Speaker 2: in here. This is this is going to be this

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Speaker 2: is going to.

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Speaker 1: Be a big one.

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Speaker 9: Well, and to that point, I know you've been wanting

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Speaker 9: to get into this four B movement. You sort of

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Speaker 9: related it to what an old Greek play. I think

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Speaker 9: this strata.

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Speaker 7: I know there was a no.

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Speaker 1: This is huge. This goes back to the Greeks. There's

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Speaker 1: a play I think it's called List of Strata.

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Speaker 2: It's where the women bind together to oppose the men

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Speaker 2: and some of the philosophies and the men are really

686
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Speaker 2: the patriarchy and the and the wars that men were fighting.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Aristophanes. I think wrote the play very

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Speaker 2: famous in the kind of the classical repertoire. Was was

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Speaker 2: performed a lot in London. You have this movement called

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Speaker 2: the four B movement. I want to toss it to you,

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Speaker 2: but you're seeing another form of culture resistance. I think

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Speaker 2: this one's going to pick up steam, Natalie, as you've

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Speaker 2: told me, it's really kind of a TikTok movement. But hey,

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Speaker 2: the TikTok movement in twenty twenty two is the reason

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Speaker 2: we didn't have the total rit tsunami. We thought it

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Speaker 2: was Matt Gaetz that call that says, hey, the TikTok

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Speaker 2: coming off of the the Dobbs decision about Roe v.

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Speaker 2: Wade really really you know, constrained it. So I would

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Speaker 2: like to have you should walk the audience dough for

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Speaker 2: the first time what's going on here, because I think

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Speaker 2: it's quite significant. I've always said that this thing of

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Speaker 2: the of the time times up about the patriarchy versus

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Speaker 2: populism and nationalism will be one.

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Speaker 1: Of the big things.

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Speaker 2: And I think we're we're moving beyond race and we're

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Speaker 2: getting the gender.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is going to be a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge issue going forward.

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Speaker 7: Man, So let me get this straight.

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Speaker 9: You don't want to man explain the four B movement

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Speaker 9: to the audience.

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Speaker 7: I'll jump in bout the way exactly the audience, who,

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Speaker 7: by the.

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Speaker 2: Way, is actually more anti FOB than I am, But

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Speaker 2: that's that will come up in her conversation.

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Speaker 9: I think the four of Me movement probably indirectly benefits

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Speaker 9: me for our audience, who isn't super deep in TikTok lore,

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Speaker 9: which power to you. The four me movement originated in

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Speaker 9: South Korea, but it's actually more radical than the play

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Speaker 9: that you're referencing that they just didn't want to sleep

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Speaker 9: with their husbands, but in this case, no sex, no

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Speaker 9: giving birth, no dating, no marriage for all women, not

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Speaker 9: just with biological men, but transgender men too. You know,

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Speaker 9: I think it's important to contextualize this, right when you read,

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Speaker 9: for example, the Vanity Fair piece or just how they

726
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Speaker 9: describe this show. When they refer to us as an army,

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Speaker 9: it's not because we were the ones to weaponize first, right,

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Speaker 9: they weaponized against us, and we responded, and like we

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Speaker 9: said yesterday, what we nearly avoided and don't don't make

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Speaker 9: any mistake, it's still certainly here. The forces are still prevalent, prevalent,

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Speaker 9: but was a full scale cultural revolution that was saved

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Speaker 9: by the grace of God and President Donald J.

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Speaker 7: Trump.

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Speaker 9: But the activists, the organizers, the dark money, these spiritual

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Speaker 9: forces behind all of that are not going anywhere. And

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Speaker 9: I think that this movement represents two things. One of course,

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Speaker 9: is the discourse we can have on feminism and the

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Speaker 9: idea of women trying to reclaim their power. But I

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Speaker 9: think that it works really nicely with this kind of

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Speaker 9: superstructure that has become so important to the left in

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Speaker 9: these times of resistance, which is civil society.

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Speaker 7: Because tacitly admitted there is that.

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Speaker 9: They don't have control or influence over actual power in

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Speaker 9: the form of the government, in the form of the

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Speaker 9: White House, Congress sent you name it right, And I

746
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Speaker 9: think you're going to start to see these weird sort

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Speaker 9: of cultural nuances develop. Cultural movements come to the forefront

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Speaker 9: because it's their only way to grab power back. And

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Speaker 9: you already see this. The Women's March is already mobilizing

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Speaker 9: and materializing. Tens of thousands of people are getting ready

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Speaker 9: to descend.

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Speaker 7: On Washington, d C.

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Speaker 9: But when you look at the way that they've treated

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Speaker 9: the MAGA movement, and I'm not just talking about the

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Speaker 9: FEMA workers who yesterday quite literally we're told to not

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Speaker 9: go to houses that have Trump signs outside if you

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Speaker 9: think they're willing to weaponize the entire force, faith, and

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Speaker 9: credit of the United States Government against President Trump and

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Speaker 9: not help dying Trump's supporters in North Carolina, while of

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Speaker 9: course in the same breast sending billions to Ukraine and

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Speaker 9: Israel and Taiwan in every other country, you think they're

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Speaker 9: not going to keep coming with you with a vengeance

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Speaker 9: like you are for you, with a vengeance like you've

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Speaker 9: never seen. Like we said, November fifth was the day

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Speaker 9: where we either saw the Trump movement the Maga movement

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Speaker 9: become the equivalent what I would say of Mao's hundred

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Speaker 9: Flowers campaign, where they treated it like a political sie

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Speaker 9: up only to identify and jail their opposition.

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Speaker 7: The jailing, of course, it's a little close to home

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Speaker 7: here in the war room.

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Speaker 9: Or we beat it back, and we did, but now

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Speaker 9: you're seeing the radicalization, particularly of young women who are

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Speaker 9: taking to TikTok and making videos about how they're not.

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Speaker 7: Going to sleep with any man. It's their way to

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Speaker 7: take their power back.

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Speaker 9: But it's the proof that they actually have no power,

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Speaker 9: and that they're freaking out and that they're really scared

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Speaker 9: of what President Trump is going to do.

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Speaker 7: And that they've lost the narrative.

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Speaker 9: And in speaking of losing narratives, I think an important

781
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Speaker 9: fact for this audience to be up to date on

782
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Speaker 9: so when you hear, oh, we need to keep soft

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Speaker 9: on the mass deportations, and oh this know that Springfield

784
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Speaker 9: Clark County, Ohio, home to Springfield, Trump gained six points

785
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Speaker 9: there as compared to twenty twenty. And that shows you

786
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Speaker 9: that the American people, their lived reality, does not comport

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Speaker 9: with what the mainstream means wants to tell you about

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Speaker 9: illegal immigration. And when they say that our criticisms of

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Speaker 9: their flood response is disinformation, No, no, no, that's victim blaming.

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Speaker 9: If your flood response sucks intentionally at that because you

791
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Speaker 9: hate American citizens, We're going to call you out on

792
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Speaker 9: it because it's intentional, and thank god we have someone

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Speaker 9: whose only intentions are to put America first and make

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Speaker 9: this country great again. The fact that that's such a

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Speaker 9: radical policy proposal that's prompting girls to go out and

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Speaker 9: say that they're not going to sleep, merry or have

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Speaker 9: children with men because of that shows you how far

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Speaker 9: down the culturally Marxist rabbit hole we are and why

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Speaker 9: it's more imperative than ever that this audience keeps their

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Speaker 9: shoulder to the wheel. Though I'd humbly pose it, I've

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Speaker 9: seen the TikTok girls making the videos. I don't think

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Speaker 9: the men are missing out on much. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 9: Stephen K.

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Speaker 7: Bannon posobic at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: The use your host, Stephen K Ban.

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Speaker 9: Welcome back to the War Room. Natalie Winter's hosting here

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Speaker 9: out of Washington, d C. But don't worry, Stephen K

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Speaker 9: Ban and still joining us remotely. Steve, I'll bring you

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Speaker 9: in your thoughts. Maybe that's one of my first rants

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Speaker 9: that you got to witness.

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Speaker 7: Since you've been back, well.

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Speaker 2: You're coming with the learning curve brand. I want to

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Speaker 2: get back to all this is very important I want

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Speaker 2: to do. You know, we handle a lot of financial

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Speaker 2: material and events on here. We're tracking very closely President

816
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Speaker 2: Trump's finance team is going to be the Secretary Treasury,

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Speaker 2: who's going to become total of the currency, who's going

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Speaker 2: to be the NEC in the Domestic Policy councilor with

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Speaker 2: the White House. We got a lot of updates. We're

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of great stuff. I think people are

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Speaker 2: going to be quite happy trade all of it. I

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Speaker 2: think a real MAGA and I would say almost ultra

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Speaker 2: mega economic teams come together.

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Speaker 2: the things that jumped off the page they framed it.

876
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Speaker 2: That really the war room and what the war I'm

877
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 2: trying to put forward with the posse, and the reason

878
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: the posse is so strong as that we represent a

879
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: political aspect of what they call traditionalism. Now, traditionalist comes

880
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: out of Europe. It has many different meetings. You got

881
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: some writers there that are quite deep about going back

882
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: into time in a myth, but then they bring it

883
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: up currently and they said, hey, a lot of this

884
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: could be just the traditional patriarchy, the traditional family structure

885
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: versus modernity. And I find it quite interesting. And the

886
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: four B movement in Korea does have aspects that are

887
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: quite deep and really associated with Korean societ and what's

888
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: happening as they become one of the leading post industrial countries.

889
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: But at least on the surface, it does comport with

890
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: a lot was in lists of strata, which was the

891
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: rejection of traditional society at the time. Uh, these wives said, hey,

892
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: we're not going to sleep with the men until the

893
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: men stop stopped going to war all the time. Your

894
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: thoughts today of how this really ties back to traditionalism

895
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 2: and what are called the patriarchy and the tread wife

896
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: movement and all that.

897
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Speaker 9: Man, Well, real quick, I'm noticing I just sat down

898
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Speaker 9: and the war Path coffee bag of the dark ROAs

899
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Speaker 9: coffee is missing. So I don't know if you took

900
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 9: it took it with you, but you got to be

901
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 9: choking out as well.

902
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: I took it with me already had a morepath dot coffee.

903
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: Make sure you go and get a big hot batch

904
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Speaker 2: tage Ga.

905
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Speaker 1: Thanks are joining us later.

906
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Speaker 9: And whatever you do, don't ask don't ask a woman

907
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 9: to make it or each you may just become the

908
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 9: latest for be supporter. But no, I think it's much

909
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 9: like immigration, right, It's not just a cultural phenomenon. It's

910
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 9: inextricably linked to the economy too, which is what you

911
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 9: were alluding to. And I think it's part of this

912
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 9: broader idea. I mean, look, they made traditionalism. They essentially

913
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 9: they are anti choice in the sense that they deprived

914
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 9: young Americans of the ability to really even decide or

915
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 9: choose or opt in to wanting to live a traditional

916
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 9: lifestyle or being a stay at home mom. And I'm

917
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 9: not just talking about the demonization of motherhood, the demonization

918
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 9: of masculinity. But financially, of course, in concert with you know,

919
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 9: the UNS and the world economic forms of the world,

920
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 9: they have waged full scale warfare economic information, biological chemical

921
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 9: I mean that's right, it's all the RFK junior stuff

922
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 9: they're talking about, the dropping sperm counts and the hormone

923
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 9: disruptions and women. Right, they have done everything they can

924
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 9: to make that, you know, quintessential American lifestyle of a

925
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 9: nuclear household fundamentally and fiscally impossible. Right, and right now

926
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 9: you're sort of seeing the aftershock. I think of them

927
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 9: melting down.

928
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 6: You know.

929
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 9: I saw someone I'm at NBC saying that our counter

930
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 9: to Joe Rogan needs to be putting forth, not a

931
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 9: fascist podcast network, but a feminist podcast network. That's how

932
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 9: we're going to win men over. But it shows you

933
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 9: how out of touch they are. And I also think

934
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 9: there's something quite you know, interesting to this whole concept

935
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 9: of the four B movement in the sense that the

936
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 9: current system that they're buying into, right, is one beloved

937
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 9: by feminists, right, the degenerate sort of you know, hookup

938
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 9: culture that's so untethered from anything that I think anyone

939
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 9: who watches this show would called would call Christian morality

940
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 9: or Judeo Christian values. And it's just sort of an

941
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 9: interesting thing, right. These girls are opting out of a

942
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 9: culture of a way of living that, at the end

943
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 9: of the day, really only I think disadvantages them.

944
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: Right.

945
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 9: This is what people remember when I did the whatever podcast, Right,

946
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 9: it's that sort of lifestyle. The only fans just the

947
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 9: left wing cultural degeneracy. So it's sort of funny. I

948
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 9: guess it's maybe the horseshoe theory to a tee. But

949
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 9: they have fundamentally deprived young Americans in particular, of the

950
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 9: ability to even be trad to even be a trad wife, right,

951
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 9: It's financially impossible, And I think that is part of

952
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 9: the reason why you've seen such a movement among young

953
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 9: men who want to protect women in the same way

954
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 9: that President Trump says that, and the left wing media

955
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 9: melts down. It's not a radical proposition. It's what men

956
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 9: were created to do, and it's what women want men

957
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 9: to do. But they associate the pejorative connotation to it

958
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 9: when it doesn't need to be there. And I've already

959
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 9: watched MSNBC try to untangle this whole masculinity concept. They

960
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 9: can't even get three seconds into the discussion without talking

961
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 9: about toxic masculinity and mandating that the discussions be intersectional. Right,

962
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 9: they are so untethered from reality. But it's joyful. She'll

963
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 9: we use that word to watch Maybe that's the definition

964
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 9: of joy. Stephen Caban and Jack Withsobic right after this

965
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 9: break