WEBVTT - Kate’s Got That Gravitational Pull 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.120 What's up bouch a Happy Hour. I'm one of your hosts, 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.719 Becky Kouffrin, and I'm Michelle Young, and we are back 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.840 with y'all this week to talk obviously about Bachelor in 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:15.280 Paradise and the two crazy episodes we saw. I know 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.560 it's getting messy, but this week it's been crazy in 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.600 Paradise with the og girls returning to the beach, and 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.080 we're gonna be talking with Kate all about the aftermath. Yeah, 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.080 I'm actually very looking forward to having Kate on to 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.400 get her scoop on her new relationship with Logan and 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.159 everything that went down between her and Cheney. But first, 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.960 before that, Michelle, let's catch up. You had a very 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.320 busy week this past week. You've been traveling all over 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.640 the place. But one highlight that we have to talk 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:54.400 about is you were just in Nashville and you happened 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:57.400 to run into one of my other favorite women on 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:04.320 the Senate, which is my mom. Even so crazy, so wild. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.120 And that's why my voice is like this is because 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.440 I've been screaming the country music all weekend. I didn't 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.600 even know that I knew the words to them many songs, 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.000 but I think when the music is so loud. You 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:17.880 have to like talk so loud anyways, so excuse excuse 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.039 the raspy voice, but yeah, I think Becky, you and 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.280 I briefly spoke about that I was going to be 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:25.880 in Nashville and You're like, oh my gosh, like, what 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.520 are the odds? My mom's actually there right now. And legitimately, 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:34.320 like a few hours later, we walked into one bar 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.160 on Broadway, and Broadway is huge for anyone like who 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:41.319 has been there, they know, but like for those who haven't, thousands, yeah, 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:46.760 it's intense, like there are so many different bars, it 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.480 is packed. It's like, I don't know, it's crazy. It's crazy. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.040 In the first part that I walk into, each of 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.880 these bars tend to have like different levels, so many 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.480 different bands playing exactly. So I we happened to walk 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:05.040 into Whiskey Row and it was like we went upstairs 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.120 and this lady woman comes walking up to me and 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.280 she's like, oh my god, I'm too good friend, And 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.520 it like took me a second to put the words 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.280 together because the band was playing, and I was like, 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.480 oh my god, it was just what are the odds? 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.800 And then we got to FaceTime Becca you that was 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.840 so fun I knew the second year facetiming me, I 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.560 just had a feeling. I was like, she ran into 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:30.480 my mom, mom, and Jill's gonna be on this other 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.080 line with her, and it's it's funny because like she 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.440 wasn't even supposed to go on this trip to begin with. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.560 Like it was like she went with a group of friends, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.160 but she wasn't originally planning on going. Last minute booked 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:46.200 her flight left and and she was there because she 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:48.440 I think was by herself at that point because all 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.320 of her friends flew out earlier. Right she she was there, No, 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.840 she there were like four of them with her. Oh 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.560 she was so with people. Okay, yeah, so she that 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.280 was like that was like their last place they were 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.359 going before they went back to the airport to fly 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.560 back to Minnesota. And turning up the fact that you 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.760 two saw each other, I'm like, oh my god, she probably, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.799 if I'm being honest, would have extended her trip and 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.320 extra time. I think she had so much fun and 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.040 it was so excited. She was so like Michelle and 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.800 my mom face timed me and we were screenshotting photos 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.360 of each other. Michelle, the one that you sent me back. 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.320 I just had so much food in my teeth, And 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.000 I was like, if she posted it, oh my god, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:31.840 don't you dare. I was like, don't look. I need 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.480 to go back and look at that photo that I 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.520 that you or that you posted but that I sent 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.160 to you because I didn't I didn't see that. But 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.320 then the one that you posted is not any better. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.400 So you're looking at my mom, No, I look like 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.240 I'm already and I'm like, I don't even had to 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.440 drink yet, like first bar and didn't you can get 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.920 a drink yet? Well, that was honestly one of the 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.840 highlights of my week. I'm so happy you two finally 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.760 met and and our moms are like texting and talking 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.360 and like already planned and meeting each other, and so 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.600 the fact that you ran into her in a completely 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.560 different stage. Just your mom was like, she was like, 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.600 I need, like we all need to plan something so 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:10.960 that the four of us can get together. Are you 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.680 coming home for Thanksgiving? We got something? Okay, we should 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.880 we should get something on the calendar for that, but 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.080 that she was saying that, and she's like, we just 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.120 all for me to hang out just so then and 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.840 then met, so then me and your mom can just 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.440 hang out. I was like, you can, you can text 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.120 my mom and go hang out with her before we 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:32.359 all forget there. Yeah, I love it. I just like 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:37.000 love the crazy friendships that for like, well beyond this show. 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.720 But that was so fun seeing you. But how how 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.800 are you doing? Becca Phillis? And I know that when 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.599 um we FaceTime to you, even Thomas were in the car. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.840 What was your weekend? Like, Oh my gosh, this weekend 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.039 was so incredible. Thomas and I took a little road 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.240 trip to one of our favorite tones and I was 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.680 gonna say in California, but probably in this country, and 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.560 we went up to oh High, which it's just a 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:05.000 special place to us. It's it's like an hour and 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.240 a half maybe northeast of LA but we've been there 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.600 a couple of times and we're just obsessed. It's so quaint, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.760 it's so charming. It was just good to get away 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.159 from the city for a while and just like bike 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.919 around and go to the cute bookshops there and grab 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.800 coffee and just chill. And it was so wonderful that 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.880 we I hate to even say this because we are 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.919 still in the midst of home renovations at the place 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.960 we just bought in San Diego, but we've been looking 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.920 into getting like a second little spot in oh Hi, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.440 which will I will say this, it will not happen 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.400 anytime soon. It's like on our ten year mark, like 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.640 ten year goal of getting a little spot there that 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.720 probably we would I would assume rent out on Airbnb 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:52.960 and then just go there whenever we want to get away, 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.560 kind of like a you know, like a late cabin 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.680 in Minnesota, what you would do when you need to 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.040 get away in the summers. But yeah, it was so nice. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.240 We like, we didn't really have a game plan. We 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:05.599 just wanted to wander and explore and do whatever. So 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:08.640 it was it was lovely. Um. I will say though, 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.640 there was one damper of the weekend, and Thomas showed 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:16.080 a few tears over the Padres losing the playoffs. Unfortunately 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.200 we are not going to the World Series this year, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.960 so he was he was a little bummed out, but 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.520 that's okay because you know, if there's always next year. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:32.520 Everyone well, so when they lost the like their final game, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.560 he did come into the house and he just like 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.800 face planeted into the bed and then would not move 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.920 his head for like a good five minutes and so 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.560 I'm like trying to pull his face off to be 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.400 like Arthur tears, there is it wet. M Thomas is 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.200 not really a crier. I've maybe seen him cry a 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.599 handful of time, like not even a handful, maybe three times, 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:56.200 and one was over the passing of his dog, which 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.719 I was a complete disaster too, so I totally understand that. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.080 But he has cried over sports the other two times, 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.119 and I'm like, seriously, dude, like over sports, but hey, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:11.280 everyone has invested, you know, he has invested. So yeah, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:15.720 it was. It was overall a great weekend. And let's 0:07:15.960 --> 0:07:18.800 get into what we are here for. Really the past 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.080 two episodes that we saw before we bring Kate on, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.200 she was clearly part of some of the drama and 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:29.000 a very big love triangle. So what were your overall 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:34.080 thoughts this week? You know, I'm starting to really realize 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.760 when I think it was the first time when we 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.360 were at at the tell all, when you know, the 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.480 Paradise Crew came on and kind of teased this season 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.840 of like this is things that you've not seen before. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.160 It gets really messy. I'm starting to like really like, oh, 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.280 this is what they're talking about. And I felt so 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:57.080 bad for Rick and Ohlu though, just like I don't 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.160 know it came in and just I definitely think they 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.280 had something else in mind that they were hoping for 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.960 for sure. And I've never met Olu. I do know 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.880 rig he was on tour with me and he's such 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.560 a sweetheart. I feel like they got the short end 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.760 of the stick in this regard, but again, it's kind 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.680 of the name of the game, where you know, some 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.120 people hit it off with certain men and vice versa, 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.440 and if you don't feel it, like you know, it 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.200 dont makes sense to necessarily. I mean, maybe if they 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.240 would have been on the beach, they would have met 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.920 other women, but who knows, There's always next year for 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.440 those those two if they're still single. So somebody else 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.080 we have to talk about is Jill. She has had 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.240 a big presence on this season so far, but obviously 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:43.200 she now left the beach after finding out Jacob wasn't 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.640 totally feeling it with her. What were your thoughts on 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.080 that goodbye and her leaving? I mean, I felt like 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:54.319 Jacob handled it as best as somebody could like It 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.880 seemed like he ended it in a very respectful manner. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.760 It's hard because it's like on the show, breakups are 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.679 going to be dramatic. It's like it's not going to 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:07.559 come across like pleasant, right, and it's like you can 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:11.199 only just like sometimes honesty hurts. So that was I mean, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.720 there was a lot of heartbreak, for sure, I could 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:18.000 see with Jill. But I also couldn't help but laugh 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:22.160 when she was in like the doing her little interview 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.280 on the way home in the car and she's crying. 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.560 She's like, I'm crying over a lift driver. I'm crying 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:32.040 over somebody who sold their couch for cash. Like God's like, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.640 oh my god. I was like, don't throw under the 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.199 bus like that. He would be a lovely lift driver. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.120 I would have such a good drive with him. I 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.360 want to touch on Jacob really quick, because he was 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.679 somebody that we talked about on Gabby and Rachel's season, 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.640 especially like the day that he left. Remember he rubbed 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.480 us the wrong way and he said something very off 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.920 putting to Gabby and I called him out on the 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.920 podcast about it. But I will say Jacob is actually 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.880 somebody who has pleasantly surprised me. I think he's entertaining. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.360 He seems to get along with most everyone on the 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.520 Beach so far, but I feel like he is somebody 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:16.080 who actually like puts more thought into what he wants 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.560 to say. At this point, like this second time around, 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.080 being on this platform where so many people are going 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:23.720 to be watching him, I think he's much more cognizant 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.800 of like his conversations and how he comes across, which 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.240 I really appreciate. I think he's grown since the last 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.840 time we saw him on Gabby and Rachel's season, and 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.480 like I think, I kind of like Jacob now he 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.240 has grown on me. And you know, starting out, I 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.360 wasn't too sure about him. I kind of wrought him off, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.960 But I think that the way that he's now kind 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.760 of handling himselves with conflict during confrontation, like with the 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.640 letdowns with Kate and having to let Jill go, I 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:56.080 think he handled it the best way possible and seemed 0:10:56.280 --> 0:11:00.959 very mature. This entire week, exactly one hundred percent agree 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.440 that he. I'm changing with him, and it's been nice 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.640 because it seems genuine It doesn't seem like he's putting 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.640 on a facade to be liked. It seems like he 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.200 genuinely doesn't want to hurt people with his words and 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.199 how he's communicating, so he's changed. But what I will 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.080 say is that there is one person who we're sure 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.760 has a lot to say about Jacob, and that is 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.959 our guest today, Kate. Should we bring her? Yes? I 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.240 think so. We have so many burning questions for her, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:32.840 so let's just get into it with her, all right. Well, Kate, 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.719 welcome too, Happy hour. This is your first time here 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.400 because we didn't have you on during your time on 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:43.200 Clayton season, so welcome. How are you doing after now 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:48.200 filming two seasons? Thank you guys so much for having me. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.320 Can I just say this is my dream girl chat 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:58.200 like embodied here for it be able to be talking 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:02.040 to you guys. Honestly, I feel really good. It's it's 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.120 so funny to kind of be here again, especially like 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.520 on the Heels of Clayton season, which I realized just 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.679 the other day was also airing this year, and its 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.920 like it's been ten years, you know, since all that happened. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.439 But I kind of put that in perspective is definitely 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:21.640 like mind boggling, But I feel really good, honestly good. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.440 Are you still working, like in real estate? Did you 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.120 go back once? You? Like return home? Is everything kind 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.679 of back to normal, except for like when you turn 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.360 on the TV or maybe leave your house. Yeah, and 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.160 I get on the internet. It's not normal anymore. But 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:41.360 work is going really well. I'm definitely someone who if 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.679 I'm feeling anxious or stressed, I'll throw myself into my job, 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.240 so you know, for better or worse. That's definitely been 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.079 something that I've been able to kind of lean on. 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.960 So work is going really well. Still selling real estate 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:58.800 marks still hot, so everything is good on the workfront. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.200 If anyone needs a real in La, riach out to Kate. Yes, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.240 my gosh, Kate. So I met you in person once, 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.160 and this was a couple of months ago during The 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.240 Bachelor Live on stage when we were actually in La 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.920 And at that point you and Genevieve came out on 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:19.599 stage and we had talked about you potentially going onto Paradise. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.200 And I think at that point, obviously you didn't know 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.880 if it was a first sure thing, but you were 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:29.000 open to the idea. So now, looking back, are you 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.520 happy you said yes to that opportunity. I like view 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.960 this whole experience as such a net positive. I was 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.520 really hoping that I would be selected to go down 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:41.880 to the beach. I didn't want to get my hopes 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.560 too too up, but that's honestly kind of impossible. So 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.440 whenever we met, I was definitely trying to play it cool, 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.960 but internally I was like screaming, you know, like I 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.000 really want to know. I really hope this means that, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.679 like you know, I hope this is foreshadowing, like for 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.360 a good thing for me, that I'll be able to 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:00.120 get down there, And I did. I met positive. I 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.400 love that. So that real estate academic language of vocabulary, 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.520 I love it. I love it. But so we are 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.280 here to talk paradise. So we are going to get 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.320 into the details. And at this point on the show, 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.520 you've been there for only two weeks, but like it 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.040 seems like forever. It seems like you've already really made 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.800 your mark. How did you feel at the beginning, when 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.160 you're walking into a group of guys who may have 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.880 already formed relationships. What was going through your head at 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.960 that point? It did feel I mean, even though it's 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.960 been two weeks, it felt like I lived many lives 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.360 in that time. So, you know, kind of being able 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.160 to watch it back has definitely been a trip. But 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.600 I was nervous obviously to go into a situation where 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:49.040 I knew that connections had already been formed, and on 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.080 top of that, like an added layer, connections were formed 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.600 with girls who I was friends with and girls from 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.240 Clayton season. So you know, there was a lot of 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:02.760 kind of complicated, conflicting emotions behind it all, But I 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.440 think like the underlying current was I just felt so 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.080 fortunate and happy to be there, and I was willing 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:12.000 to kind of like lean in and get swept away 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.400 by that current and just allow myself to like get 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:20.920 the full experience walking in the moment that you did, right, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.640 because it was vastly different from just like walking down 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.720 through the gates of Paradise and meeting everyone you want 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.120 to have five women? Did you have any idea that 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.360 you were going to walk into this group of people 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:36.600 who are already coupled up and have them did, Like, 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.840 were you aware of this switcher rward? Were you just like, 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.680 I'm just gonna hang out with everyone on the beach. 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.320 You had no idea what you were walking into that day? Yeah, 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.920 it was completely unclear to me. I was flying blind 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.800 going down in that manner. But I'm honestly really grateful 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.920 that I did I think being able to kind of 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.840 maneuver that experience with four other girls who were also 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.480 in the same boat, as it felt like there was 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.440 like almost a release of pressure because it's not just 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.320 me storming down the stairs like trying to you know, 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.960 home wreck somebody's relationship, but it's more like, you know, 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.680 I have the other women to kind of lean on 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.800 and to have a shared experience with. And so I 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.200 felt still nervous, obviously, but kind of more empowered to 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.640 be able to be going through that like with you know, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.720 the other girls kind of by my side and us 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:28.000 all having a shared experience. Had you known like who 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.520 you know from even from Clayton's season, like the old 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.520 girls and new girls. Were you really close with any 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.600 of them? Did you know which girls were going to 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:40.160 be at Paradise? And once you got there and saw 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.360 that they're not, they're there, but they're not there, Like 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.160 what was your mentality? Did that change anything for you? 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:50.360 So I definitely got way closer to the women of 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:55.160 Clayton's season than Clayton himself, obviously, and so we had 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.600 all kind of kept in touch, and for the most part, 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.240 I had a pretty good idea of who was going 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.840 to be down there. I think what threw me off 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.240 was like seeing them, you know, sitting next to their 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.679 respective men and like kind of like putting the pieces 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.080 together of like okay, like you know, I see Jenevieve 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.120 and Aaron sitting there, and like you kind of see 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.520 me go talk to him first, because he felt like 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.919 a safe space, because it was like, okay, like I 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:18.520 can ask him to kind of give me a lay 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.320 of the land for you know, everybody else's connection. But 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.440 it was also interesting to see who had left, you know, 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.959 who I thought was going to be there and then 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.879 it turns out they were gone, Sierra Hunter, you know, 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.720 like kind of peeling my eyes and seeing me more 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:35.240 here they're not, oh my god, what happened? You know. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.000 It's kind of a letdown when you go and you 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.960 think like all of your friends are going to be 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.800 there and then they've already got the boot and you're 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:46.439 just like, damn, I wanted a summer with ya all together. Yes, okay, 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.960 So you're like I would say the strongest immediate connection 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.480 was with Jacob and with him like, what was it 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.600 fresh out the gate? Was it more like the physical 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.639 side of things or did you and Jacob happened to 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.240 connect more emotionally, and we just didn't get the chance 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:08.200 to see that. So I think what like made Jacob 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.120 stand out from the rest is that he pursued me. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.960 He was very like on top of things, you know, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.480 quite literally, but like he kind of made it known 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:22.080 how he felt and he was taking action, whereas I 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.400 think a lot of the other guys were a bit 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.919 more passive and we're just kind of sitting back, and 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.000 so he was kind of the first one that really 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.480 made a move on me, and so you know, I 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.800 felt like that was something that I could explore. But 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.520 you know, there's also still a lot of kind of conflicting, 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.520 swirling like emotions. You know. If they have to say 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:48.480 though that the scene in the hot of So Funny 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:56.400 did really actually say the like pledge of allegiance? First 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.160 of all, that hot to have seene was so humbling. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.360 I'm pretty sure or like my granny and my ancestors 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.960 all rolled over in their graves when that was happening. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:14.880 I literally like am traumatized from that. But um, yeah, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.240 that one was that was that was tough to watch. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.800 But like he's just such a he has such a 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:26.320 like sweet disposition and is like such a positive guy 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.520 and easy to kind of laugh with. Like being around 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.720 him wasn't something that like felt like it took a 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.119 lot of work, um, and so I enjoyed kind of 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.800 getting to know him in that way. Okay, so we're 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:45.200 going to get into everything with Logan that happens eventually. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.320 But like that first day, the initial group of women 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:54.359 leave your left with their men, was there anyone that well, 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.480 this is a two part question. Was there anyone out 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.520 of the group of men that were there that you, 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.159 like I really wanted to explore something with, that just 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.720 had something stronger with somebody else? And part two of 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.840 that question is is there anyone that you just like 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.080 really wished would have been on the beach when you 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.000 were down there, that you really wanted to meet your 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:17.200 number one guy? So I think first part of the question. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.840 When I got down there, I definitely didn't have my 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.359 eye on Jacob at all. I was honestly wondering where 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.920 Michael A was because he was on a date with Danielle. 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.879 Oh that's right, he was gone, yeah, yeah, Because I 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:34.600 was like, wait, what about him? You know? And then 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.399 I also, you know, when you kind of come across 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.080 someone and you kind of feel that instant like gravitational pull. 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.600 You can't really explain it. It It doesn't really make sense. 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.840 Maybe that's chemistry, maybe it's pheromones. Who knows. I felt 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:54.200 that way towards Logan m Yeah, and just like talking 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.760 and laughing and just being like, wait, what about this guy? 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.760 You know? But things moved Soka. But it's like, you know, 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:01.879 and Sarah takes him on a date and I'm like, 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:06.000 oh no, is that window closed? You know, just it 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.320 is a jungle dang. Okay, well we'll get into all 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:13.879 that too, Okay. I am super curious though, So okay, 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.399 so well yeah, we'll definitely get into your connection. I 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.240 can't even see it in your face right now, still, 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:29.639 like she's just just a little bit got a little bit. Okay. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.320 So you and Jacob hit it off like really really quickly, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.800 and it you guys had fun together. It seemed like relaxing. 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.600 It seemed like kind of you know, like a safe space. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.520 But it also seemed like you were holding back a 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.160 little bit, like are we hitting it on the mark? 0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.920 What was going on there? Yeah? I mean holding back 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:54.439