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Speaker 2: Ain't seen your mom been a minute.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you. Good yeah man, good yeah man.

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Speaker 2: Senior college already. No, she's going this uh this fall okay, yep,

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Speaker 1: We're still going. She gotta you know, they gotta finish

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Speaker 1: out kind of how the McDonald's All Americans when they

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Speaker 2: She decided where she's going.

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Speaker 1: She going to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Oh don okay, go blue. You'll take an orangeice please?

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Speaker 2: Thank you brother.

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Speaker 1: How the boys they finished that, they're going into the

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Speaker 2: So we got you now. So it's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: big summer. Yeah yeah, I didn't look bro good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: One of them, I mean one of them broke his

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Speaker 1: Had a really good season.

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Speaker 2: They're about six one's about six three and a half

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Speaker 2: stilly got different. One's more of a point one's a

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Speaker 2: point forward, could play multiple positions, and then one is

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah he can take it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not as big, but yeah, I can go coast

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Speaker 2: to coast and shoot decisions, play making all that playoff two.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tom and you got a shooter shooter ball

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Speaker 2: handler could get by you wiggily because he's smaller. So

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Speaker 2: they just different games, you know.

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Speaker 1: You know what always like to ask who are your twins?

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Speaker 2: I've been told I've been telling both of them since

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Speaker 2: They could both handle the ball, shoot the ball, but

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Speaker 2: One is much better noble one. Bigger, Yeah, not as big,

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Speaker 2: that's that's a must. That's that in shooting we're already

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Speaker 1: So let me throw this gym at you, bro that

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Speaker 1: you don't really that you don't really hear a bunch

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Speaker 1: you know what you know it's not teached when you

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Speaker 2: I think one is, no matter what he's good, one

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Speaker 1: It just that ship play. Are you gonna go outside

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Speaker 2: They don't play off the ball. If they don't have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got, we got, we gotta. We gotta deep

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Speaker 1: you have to do it. BRO. When I played, I

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Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think the kids are skilled.

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Speaker 2: I get that, But like I said, I just think

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Speaker 1: I'm in the driveway, though, Bro, it used to be

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Speaker 2: They are video games, brow video games, and they don't

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Speaker 1: You hear what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I get that, and that's what they may be trying

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Speaker 1: So it's nowhere right now, I can pull up kid

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Speaker 1: That's that's weird. That's weird here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially around here.

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Speaker 1: There's so many nice park, nice courts and glass backboards.

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Speaker 1: Listen, man, I'm up here just watching. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that the kids got so much too, Matt. There's

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Speaker 1: I've seen THEO has a pair of twins in there.

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Speaker 2: It was talent. But but and this is not knock

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Speaker 1: And these kids are playing with today, you know, Matt,

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Speaker 2: It may take you three years. It's okay. It may

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Speaker 2: Then you find super talented kids that are g league

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Speaker 2: that's okay. I'm gonna go in there at twenty one

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Speaker 2: ready to play instead of going in there at eighteen

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Speaker 2: me on that. Then they're gonna get me out of it.

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Speaker 1: You see what college doing.

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Speaker 2: Huh?

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Speaker 1: And Matt Barnes, you got two more years eligibility? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: What different?

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Speaker 1: You think so? You think everybody goes in? I think so.

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Speaker 1: You know, if if all these kids go in, man

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Speaker 1: But that's another thing. If you got a change to made,

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Speaker 3: Name, Yes, sir, certifier, certified, certified, certain, faster, certified, certain.

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Speaker 1: It's a green shot. Yeah, we built differently. You ain't

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Speaker 2: We're alive.

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Speaker 1: This is when you stopped the production that we go back.

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Speaker 4: One thing about the NL bring up is going pro.

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Speaker 2: catch that backside of the lottery, but you're for sure

435
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Speaker 2: a first round pick. So it's really up to you

436
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,200
Speaker 2: on what you want to do. And it's just like

437
00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 2: I want to lead to college and scoring. I'm like,

438
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 2: go back to school, bro, go back to school. You

439
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 2: got a talented freshman class coming into that ce, go

440
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 2: back to school. But it's just like I think to

441
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:22,879
Speaker 2: your point that if you're a lock of that lottery,

442
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 2: that's life changing off the rip. But if you're not lottery,

443
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 2: college doesn't look that bad. And I don't understand what

444
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 2: the rush to get to the pros is. Like I

445
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 2: feel like now more than ever, you have to be

446
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 2: ready when you get there because it's such a young league.

447
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,959
Speaker 2: They don't have the old vets that you can sit

448
00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,640
Speaker 2: and learn behind. Now now you're thrown in the fire

449
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: or you're thrown in the G League. And to me,

450
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 2: college is much better than the G League. That part,

451
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 2: So that part, and guess what, you get to build

452
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 2: your name in college. And when you build your name

453
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 2: and you know, made money for the machine, you can

454
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Speaker 2: come back to the machine.

455
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: You build your brand too.

456
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 2: Look, you look on the women's side, and this is

457
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Speaker 2: kind of off top of Kaitlyn Clark and Andrew Reese

458
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 2: had a brand that was bigger than the entire W respectfully.

459
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: Before they went into the NBA.

460
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 2: So college is how you build your game and your

461
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 2: brand and then your lifelong connections with that.

462
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: With that college, Listen, those young ladies can go back

463
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: to those any respectable you know, I'm telling you made

464
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Speaker 1: When you're not put butts in the seats for for

465
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Speaker 1: some congraminus, man, you're not made money for the machine,

466
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: you can always go through that door lifelong.

467
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh, you guys just brought it up. So I'm going

468
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: to bring it up to WNBA. We got some momentum

469
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 4: here with kind of they reached an agreement the Player

470
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Speaker 4: Association the WNBA. So now players can receive up to

471
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Speaker 4: twenty percent of the basketball related income, whereas before it

472
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 4: was less than ten percent the last deal. And now

473
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 4: there's super Max where you can make one point four

474
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 4: million dollars. There's just more money that the players are

475
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 4: going to be.

476
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Speaker 2: Able to do regulations.

477
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Speaker 4: So I'm just curious your thoughts. And they're expanding to

478
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Speaker 4: two more teams this upcoming year.

479
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Speaker 1: Where Houston came back that that was a travesty not

480
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 1: to have Houston where you understand the WNBA and they

481
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: set it off Commas where everything there's the first show

482
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Speaker 1: of the WNBA, you know what I'm saying.

483
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Speaker 4: And so the Fertida's brought them back. That was a

484
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 4: record sale for WNBA. Team you needed was the Connecticut Sun.

485
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Speaker 2: Okay, who's the other?

486
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Speaker 4: So the expansion teams this upcoming year will be Portland

487
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 4: is gonna have a team in the Toronto who's gonna

488
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 4: have a team in Messiah. Jerry is going to be

489
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Speaker 4: a part of that that front office group.

490
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Speaker 1: Toronto having a w NBA team, that'd be dope. Don't

491
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Speaker 1: do something in a summer.

492
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Speaker 4: Right, So then there's two more. There's two more coming

493
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 4: in subsequent years. So by like twenty thirty, the league

494
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 4: was going to.

495
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Speaker 2: Have I just think and let me know what you

496
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: think on this. I think expanding too much, too fast

497
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: can water you down too much. You think, so, well,

498
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 2: it's just to me, there's there's the women's game is

499
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: growing leaps and bounds. But when you expand your spreading

500
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Speaker 2: out the existing talent you have, and then you're almost

501
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: forced to fill spots with people that may not have

502
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: made the league because you need bodies for these new teams.

503
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: Actually think we got an abundance of talent. I think,

504
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: I just I think look at look at the Aces.

505
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: We can go through the Aces team. You ever go

506
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: through a team like okay, see some of them, guys

507
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: can actually be starters and maybe team no question, a

508
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: whole nother thing on another team. That's what I'm saying.

509
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 1: When you can do that, Actually, I actually think that's

510
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Speaker 1: where the league is going. When you look at the

511
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Speaker 1: Lakers and they had god damn eleven Bob mcado was

512
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You remember that, that's where

513
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 1: you know the team is. I mean the league is healthy.

514
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Speaker 3: Uh.

515
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Speaker 1: I actually think we're going to get an abundance of

516
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Speaker 1: talent that we're not. We don't We're not going to

517
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 1: see you remember you remember when the Amen Twins came

518
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: and nobody told them coming and today was here. He

519
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: was like, holy ship right here. That type thing. We're

520
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna have more of those happened in our in our lifetime,

521
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be right here. Look at all the

522
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: abundance of talent that that's coming out of two year colleges. Juco.

523
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: How there are prize in college and now you're getting

524
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: the Expirits player. Well, no one's talking about the euro player.

525
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Speaker 1: This is another thing I want to bring up. Man,

526
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: We're about to have a first Euro n C double

527
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: A the Illinois. The Illinois fighting line. Now they are

528
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: the first euro college team and they got a chance

529
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: to win it. Lord, they're gonna We're gonna see that.

530
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: Guess what, It's cheaper. These kids are more disciplined and

531
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: they listen and they have probably a little better passion.

532
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: Not saying they better players than none of that higher IQ.

533
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: They start earlier. They're not, you know, not saying they

534
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: don't have so many same distractions because those kids want

535
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: to be like us, you feel me. So I'm seeing

536
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: a different narrative being created in college that no one's

537
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: talking about. And it's the international player Illinois. What's the

538
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: first team to make the investment on the international player

539
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: and have a style like that? Bro's bro, I don't,

540
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm gonna se him, keep it real. I

541
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: know Strik of his son, that point guard, I don't

542
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: know him. It's about three four other guys on that

543
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: and like they are balling. I love it. Shout out

544
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: to Illinois. Man, they got a real chance. Man uh

545
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: Man then has been.

546
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: Their favorite too, right, not to cut you off, I

547
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: think Illinois is is Illinois?

548
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: Uh, let me double check.

549
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: I know Michigan was favored when we talked about it yesterday.

550
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: Michigan on the steam roll right now, but Connecticut on

551
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: the heater right now. I mean, I love this.

552
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 4: This is a favorite against Yukon. Really and to your point, ticket,

553
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: they got five guys internationally, a couple guys from Croatia,

554
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 4: And I'm curious what you guys think, like is the

555
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: recruiting process going over the water is potentially more cost

556
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 4: effective than getting some of these US born players.

557
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Speaker 1: I'm curiously if you as l A and Wimby was

558
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Speaker 1: available to go with.

559
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Speaker 2: I remember, back when I was actually in college, we

560
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: were in the fight for Tony Parker.

561
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: We were trying to get Tony Parker. That would have

562
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Speaker 1: been you know what I mean.

563
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: I remember them clearly talking about trying to get Tony Parker.

564
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: Obviously he chose to go to the league. But and again,

565
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Speaker 2: I never want to sound like an old hater or

566
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: but I just feel like American players have been given

567
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 2: so much without actually their g from what we had

568
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: to earn. So to me, if I'm looking as a

569
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 2: college recruiter, you got to really be on your shit

570
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: as an American player with, like you said, understanding how

571
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: to be a pro, Understanding how to just carry yourself,

572
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: handy yourself, work hard, understand how to you know, build

573
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: character if you don't get what you want right off

574
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: the rip, because you know they have that over there

575
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: working with I think as a whole. As a whole,

576
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: the US is better, obviously, but these other players that

577
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: are coming over the water, that the handful that are

578
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 2: coming are really ready to play. They're ready to play

579
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: in college and they're ready to play in the pro.

580
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: So it's it's the game has changed. You said, build

581
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: professionally to be they're ready because you know, they don't

582
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: play junior high, high school. They play club. So you're

583
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: playing with grown ass men smoking cigarettes and drinking beers

584
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 2: after the game when you ain't barely got some hair

585
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 2: on your nuts, you.

586
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

587
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: So you're learning at an early age what it takes

588
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: to be in this grown man sport fourteen fifteen how

589
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: to chief a cigarette?

590
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: Do you think with what Illinois doing, this success they

591
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: have this will change kind of recruiting in the future.

592
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: For some of these US, I think.

593
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: It's just we play sports as a copycat game.

594
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: So whatever is working, people are gonna you know, for

595
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: everyone tried to build a Golden State roster for a

596
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: while and then Denver one and everyone started wanting to

597
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: go back to finding bit. You know, it's just like

598
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: whatever works, people are gonna try to copy instead of

599
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: figuring out what works for who you have.

600
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: Now, everybody want a Joker, And when Joker was killing

601
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: it seventy six, just thought, oh shit, we got to

602
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: be he can do the same thing. We're gonna put

603
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: you at the high post. Now you work big. Felt like,

604
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: I see, I see what you're saying. I say this.

605
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: So this, this right here is going to enter my

606
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: narrative of players coming back to colleges, because if you're

607
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna have coming back to college, the G League overseas

608
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: and then the league and then you're gonna help me,

609
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have abundance of talent. So some of this

610
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: talent ain't all gonna fall away and say that's why

611
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: we're looking at D two's and players at D three's

612
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: or these other colleges. You never heard of they got

613
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: some dope player. That's the abundance of time I'm talking about.

614
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: But to me, all this is gonna fall somewhere now.

615
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: I think if you're in college, I think the rule

616
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: needs to go into play to think about if Matt

617
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: did four years, can I resign him? If he's willing

618
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: and wanting to come back to play for two three years?

619
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: Guess what that does to my to my program? Helps

620
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: to understand he can help with recruits. This is the

621
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: og that we need in college. This all helps the

622
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: development too of the young man getting ready to any

623
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: young lady getting ready to go off and be a professional.

624
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: On the flip side, does that take you out of

625
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: contention to go to the league then, because you got

626
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: to think the league is rarely that there was Dalton

627
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 2: Connect twenty four. The league is rarely taking guys that

628
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: old darling.

629
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: Dog Connect right now can go average probably fifteen nineteen

630
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: on the show with the Hornets. He can go right

631
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: there in Utah.

632
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: Know what I'm what I'm saying is if I if

633
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: that somewhat like playing past and I heard it and

634
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: it was last summer.

635
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: Connect was twenty three.

636
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: Just to Clari, Yeah, playing past twenty three twenty four

637
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 2: in college is pretty much guaranteeing you that you're not

638
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 2: going to the league. They're not drafting guys that are.

639
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: Although it's working in college for the game for every

640
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: reason you just said. But I think once you get

641
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: past twenty three twenty four in college and you haven't

642
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: been able to make that jump or you don't you know,

643
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: there hasn't been any interest, I think you're almost taking

644
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: yourself out of the NBA conversation at least to be drafted.

645
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: There's you may be able to.

646
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 2: Take another route and come the back way around the league.

647
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: But I feel like, although I hate it that there's

648
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: twenty six and twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, twenty

649
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: eight year old guys playing, those guys aren't the guys

650
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: that are going to make.

651
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: The jump to the league.

652
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: Because you feel like, you know, it's still potential, and

653
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: if I see you at twenty three twenty four and

654
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: you're still not ready, will you ever be ready?

655
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: That's who you are though, That's what my point. Yeah,

656
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: that opportunity is for those players, right because you guess what,

657
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: that guy is either gonna go to the G League

658
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: or some other league. So would you rather be in college, yeah,

659
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: or would you rather be in the G League or

660
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: these other That's that's really what I'm saying.

661
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: I also think I specially dolls to say, Matt, I

662
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: think there needs to be an age cap, whether that's

663
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four. I feel like twenty four will

664
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: leave you six years removed from high school and if

665
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: you haven't got to figure it out by man, I

666
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: think you need to make them up only because you're

667
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: clogging up the pipeline. Because if I'm if we're coaches,

668
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: our job is to win. So I'm going to take

669
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: an older player that has experience and strength over potential

670
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: most of the time, because you know those older guys

671
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: off the rip are going to be ready to go.

672
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 2: So I just think they're clogging up the pipeline for

673
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: the kids that need, not the one that does, but

674
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: the kids that may need those two or three years

675
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: to develop in college. Those spots are being taken by

676
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: these older players.

677
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: It's almost like I got an Eddie Jones to here,

678
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: but I got a Kobe Bryant sid, I got a

679
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: Bonafi Star right now, All Star already. I got a

680
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: demon sitting on them. I got one of the greatest

681
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: on the way you hear me, That's almost like saying,

682
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: what if Okase never chased James Harden? Do we see

683
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: the do we see the Houston Harden?

684
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: Ever?

685
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they don't get rid of Maddy

686
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Jones and Colebrian Goes two, three, four years coming off

687
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: the bench, we are looking at ourselves like what it's like,

688
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: how you got Kamenica Comedia came in and destroyed the

689
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: first night he was in Atlanta, we all looked up

690
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: and like, man, what the fuck? Steve Kerve was on.

691
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: I know we're going bro. That's why I love talking basketball.

692
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: This man, this man. We can do this all day.

693
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: Especially we got to bring out yeah, yeah, yeah, you

694
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let's get it they let's get

695
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: into these prize pigs, baby, yes, sir, more or less?

696
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: Okay, So it's just you today. So let's look at

697
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: Friday's matchup. We have the Celtics at the Bucks.

698
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Ooh, Celtics at the Bucks.

699
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: I want to look at Jalen Brown's points more or less?

700
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Is he gonna play? They probably gotta play. They probably

701
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: gotta win out all these six games.

702
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: Eh.

703
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: The Knicks are somewhat close to two games.

704
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna say actually, I don't think he's gonna

705
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: play that much in this game. I'm gonna say less.

706
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: And then I think the Celtics actually gonna blow the

707
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Bucks out. You know, Johannis, I know everybody's out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

708
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say less.

709
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 4: Okay, Bucks have had a lot of double digit losses recently.

710
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: Yeah there, yeah, all right, So let's look at the

711
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 4: Hawks at the Nests.

712
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: I want to look at the Nest Brooklyn.

713
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: I want to look at Jalen Johnson points more or

714
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 4: less for Jalen Johnson.

715
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: Again, I think all these teams, Atlanta being one of them,

716
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: are getting ready for the playoffs, and Jalen Johnson average

717
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: what twenty five? Something like twenty three? Yeah, I want

718
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: to say more, but I see the Hawks blowing the

719
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Nets out too. And this is at Brooklyn too, right, yes, sir, Yeah,

720
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say more because it's New York getting there.

721
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: Get a rhythm. It can it can it can? You

722
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: know it can be. It could get bad quick, you

723
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So yeah, I'm gonna say more

724
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: for Jalen.

725
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: And then lastly, let's add one more player. We have

726
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: the Raptors going into Memphis.

727
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh, the Raptors going into Memphis.

728
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, and the Raptors they need wins here. Uh

729
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 4: so let's look at brandon Ingram. Points more or less

730
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: for brandon Ingram in this game.

731
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 2: Product.

732
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, brandon Ingram's girl is from mephis uh Glorilla. Uh so, yeah,

733
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say more. I'm expecting more from Ingram in Memphis.

734
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think Memphis is go ahead and I

735
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: think they're one two three, can coon in it already? Yeah,

736
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: they they've already started the plan. So yeah, yeah, give me, yeah,

737
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: give give me more, give me more from Ingram. And

738
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: those are the tickets price picks. Yes, sir, let me

739
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: start this off man before we jump into this. So

740
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna win m v P. Nobody. We

741
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: we really giving this justice. We just acting like every

742
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: nigga can do this. Man, shout to the dawn. Man, Hey, man,

743
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: don I know how I go. When you're going through

744
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: shaw off court, you actually have the court to be

745
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: able to just espress yourself. Man, this run that Luca

746
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: is oh man, I think he was what thirteen fourteen games?

747
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: He had over thirty. I think a couple of those

748
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: being faty faty faulties.

749
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: What is he agent like about forty points eight and

750
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: seven over this third What are they what fifteen out

751
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: of seventeen or sixteen out of eighteen.

752
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: So just I'm just looking at their last sixteen games,

753
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: fourteen and two, and Luca.

754
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 2: I know you gotta la, you gotta laugh, Yeah, you

755
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: gotta laugh, Surd It's like some fucking video.

756
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: Thirty seven and a half points, eight rebounds, seven and

757
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: a half a saist, two steals a game. He's shooting

758
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: basically forty percent from three and forty nine from the floor.

759
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: And uh, as I said fourteen and two during that start.

760
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: I think, respectfully, this is the first time, because I

761
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: know we've said it a lot and heard it a

762
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: lot over the last two or three years, that Bron

763
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: is kind of surrendered the keys and accepted that third role.

764
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: And I think this is where I feel like, this

765
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: is why the Lakers are better because to me, Bron

766
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: being in that seventeen point triple double range every night

767
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: and allowing Luca to be Luca and ar to bear

768
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: makes that team so much more potent. Instead of Lebron

769
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: having the score in the twenties. He can still do it.

770
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Don't give her. He could definitely still do it, but

771
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 2: I think he found a way where he can preserve.

772
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Let these two young boys go out there and do

773
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: the heavy lifting, and I'm still going to pop up

774
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: in the playoffs and give you thirty a few times

775
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: through this run.

776
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 4: So Matt, to your point, it just looked this up.

777
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: Lebron James's usage rate the lowest ever in his career

778
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: this season, and I think a lot of that is success.

779
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is finally.

780
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: I think it's two parts, but I think it's him

781
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: finally being like, I'm listening to my body and I

782
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 2: know I need these young boys to pull the sled,

783
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: and when it's time for me in the playoffs, I'm

784
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: still gonna splash up and give you maybe even forty ball.

785
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: I mean, for sure give you a couple of thirty balls.

786
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: But I feel like if he's in that seventeen eighteen,

787
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: nineteen point range with ten assists and eight rebounds, it's

788
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: just like, to me, that's the most effective Lebron for

789
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: ar and Luca.

790
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: To run their run their race. Listen, man, this man

791
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. They take, they take that. He

792
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: took his foot off the gas and this has been

793
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: the play now when he get in the playoffs. This

794
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: is what we're not talking about. First off, I want

795
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: to shout out Shaye Shaye Butter, because what Shaye Butter

796
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: did four years averaging third broo, and he's hitting midies.

797
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: It's not like because he put that midi in his game.

798
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: He got a face up three that he'll just straight

799
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: up head shot you right there, if you, if you,

800
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: if you get caught in the days and it's a

801
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: two and it's two steps, he'll shoot that ship. And

802
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: he shot that shit at a high clip. Then he

803
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: put the mini in his game. I'm saying all that

804
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: to say that shot to him because four years straight

805
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: up averaging thirty is hard, especially when your top on

806
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: the board and you're circled every night. That's just that's

807
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: the person to stop you understand.

808
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: No One says Jordan.

809
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: I know we talked about shout to Shade doing that. Man,

810
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: shout to the Joker too, bro. Nobody's talking about what

811
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: Joker's doing. Jokers damn near averaging the triple double in

812
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: front of anybody. And to me, no one's talking about never,

813
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: which is even more scarier because they are like dark Horse.

814
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: And I think they're okay with it though, because they've

815
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: won it and they know what it takes. They don't

816
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: they don't have to be at the top. They know

817
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: at some point you're gonna have to go on the

818
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: road and win anyway. And I think that Murray's having

819
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: a better season and they're scary. One person I want

820
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: to point out, and I don't know he obviously he's

821
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: in the conversation, but it's Wemby at twenty four and eleven,

822
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: but also the defensive impact. You can talk about SGA,

823
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: you could talk about Luca incredible, but they don't have

824
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: the defensive impact. I think Wemby will be the next

825
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: guy that did what Jordan did and what eighty eight

826
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: orty nine.

827
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 4: It's eighty eight season. He was Defensive Player of the Year.

828
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: Layer of the Year and MVP, and I know you

829
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 2: love it because he brought the energy back to the

830
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: All Star Game too. I feel like, I although it

831
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: was one taste, let's see if it carries over, but

832
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: he put that energy. I felt that that made these

833
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: guys be like, we got to keep up with this motherfucker.

834
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: We put a joke into the game right now. He's

835
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: making everybody raise their level of play. Yep, Like, if

836
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna beat the Spurs, Bro, no, be's gonna have

837
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: to be at a heightened level. They're gonna have to

838
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: play at another level, you know what I'm saying, And

839
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be the best versions of them

840
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: getting to the Lakers, and no one who finish this

841
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: point we can go to the next. I actually see

842
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: we're not talking about the intangibles that Lebron James comes with.

843
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: So I've been a testament to this. I've seen the

844
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: man turn it on and take it to another level.

845
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I've seen him take over the game. I've seen him

846
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: control the game. And that's what I'm banking over. And

847
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: that's what I don't see in the narrative. And when

848
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: we get to the playoffs, guess who' gonna be able

849
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: to get to the whole and out of five drives

850
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: get three calls? You understand? Fourth quarter? You know what

851
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like when Lord hit the button, Yeah, I'm

852
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: excited when Bron hit the button. Bro, you gotta really

853
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: be on that ship. Bro, If you ain't on the

854
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: other side, preparing the version of your button and being

855
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: able to like cattle balance now, bro bro.

856
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: So they're not thinking about this ticket. You're putting your

857
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: best to defenders on Luca in aar.

858
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Broun's nine

859
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: to ten times gonna be better than your third player, right,

860
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: or he should be right. He should be right, he

861
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: should Summer team's gonna happen, y'all. Listen to me, y'all.

862
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get in here. And Austin Reeves always struggles

863
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: when teams double team Hill, well, he double teams. When

864
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: he's double team he doesn't get out of his head

865
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: quick enough. He's not more patient to get it back.

866
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: But then you got two game change yourself on the

867
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: same team. I actually feel like, listen, if if Luca

868
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: would have had this type of ain't changing with him

869
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: in Dallas when they went to the fights with any

870
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: they had a different look. That's all I'm gonna say.

871
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: But you gotta think the swing swing now is going

872
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 2: to bron swing.

873
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: You take that bat like Spaceline drive. Yeah, I like

874
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: them like as they're trending high, Yo, they ain't nobody

875
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: really talk about them, but they are climbing. They beat

876
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: some teams they should have beat.

877
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: But and you know, going into the playoffs, that is

878
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: getting hot at the right time. That's what they're being

879
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: hot at the right time.

880
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: That's the top ten in defense and offense. And defense

881
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: was a struggle that they had in the man.

882
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: Shout out to JJ because again being in that coaching

883
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: seed is probably the hottest seat in professional sports, and

884
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: I think he took a lot of heat, but understanding

885
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: how this it was going to take time to manage

886
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: these personalities and egos. But I know the type of player,

887
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: the type of man in the and the sicko he

888
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: is on detail and game plan and strategy, and I

889
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: think it's finally coming. Obviously, you want to give all

890
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: the credit to the players that because they're out there working,

891
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: but I think JJ behind the scenes has finally kind

892
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: of got that lock a room understanding the vision and

893
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: and again the hottest team in.

894
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: The NBA, him and Bro had to get some understanding,

895
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: right Quier.

896
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna take some time.

897
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: You know, you dance and you know what I'm saying.

898
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: And also too because and respectfully, j J was a

899
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: great shooter, but JJ was a role player, so I

900
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: think he took him a little bit of time to

901
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: earn the respect that he deserved. But it took a

902
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: little time to earn it, and I think he's earned it.

903
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: And I think that you know, he's He's had his

904
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 2: ups and downs with Luca. Publicly, we've seen it. I'm

905
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: sure there's been some behind the scenes up and down

906
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: with Bron. I'm not really sure how ar is is,

907
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: if he's a strong personality or not, but I know

908
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: there's been some probably some some some struggles, and there

909
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: should be some struggles as you're continuing to grow. But

910
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: I feel like now they're on one accord and you

911
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 2: can see it in their play.

912
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Think about those players that you just named, type of coach,

913
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: you gotta beat it. Tell Bron, hey, hey, you got

914
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: to get back on defense. Hey man, what the fuck

915
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: are you doing right here?

916
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: And he will and like I said, I think he

917
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: probably wasn't received as well first, but he don't give

918
00:40:59,520 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: a fuck.

919
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: He don't. But it's the way you gotta you know,

920
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: how you got to present that you can't. You need

921
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: these guys, bro see Luca to be the best lucas

922
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: you don't want Lucas shutting you down, waiting you off

923
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: when you wait, when you call something, bro, Nah, it

924
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: helps that when you and your best player are on

925
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: the same accord, Bro, it looks totally different.

926
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: It's a different flow.

927
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: Despite the noise and everything's happen with the Lakers. JJ

928
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: back to back fifty win seasons for him.

929
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, fucking Luca and Bron, I don't want to

930
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: hear that shit. Lucy and Bron. We look back on

931
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: this ship. You have some from the weekend for now.

932
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: So I didn't know like Dan want fifty games, I

933
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: got Ron, Luca get the hell out of here, dog.

934
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 4: Right, let's go back to MVP.

935
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: Thanks.

936
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 4: We talked about the greatness of a couple of guys.

937
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: But let's just say you guys had a vote. Who

938
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: is that guy that you're picking for the MVP for

939
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 4: the twenty five to twenty six season.

940
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna just say it. This kid gonna be

941
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: goddamn defensive Player the Year for the next ten years.

942
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Like I love I love Jade McDaniel for the Timberwolves.

943
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: I think I love his defensive intensity, I love how

944
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: he plays. It's the Detroit team. I love how they

945
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: play defense, right. I love their defensive intense. I love

946
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: watching Okay, see how they play defense. Right, But this

947
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: kid is good. This kid's gonna win the defensive Player

948
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: that He's gonna win the award for the next decade, bro,

949
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: because what he does and then the only thing he

950
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: had to do is get a little more decent offensively.

951
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: They put shooting around here, they got guard player around here,

952
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: they got everything around him, right, Bro, he brings you

953
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: three to four blocks a night, and then he's damn

954
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: that gets three to four dunks to night.

955
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

956
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody hard foul big fella. Ain't nobody put the

957
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: finger in.

958
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 4: Ain't nobody lay twenty nine minutes a night.

959
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: I see everybody keeping cooling. So what I'm saying, I

960
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: don't see. I see him as a bigger impression on

961
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: the league than the league actually on him. He's dominating

962
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: the league to where gods don't want to foul him,

963
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: Like you feel, we feel what I'm saying, Like I'm

964
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: looking at like at one point, do you show him down? Matt?

965
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: You playing defense? You gotta you know, give a office

966
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: have got different things. I don't see.

967
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: None of this is so long he'll give you these

968
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: weird like angle dunks that he'll take off from a

969
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: step inside the three point line of somehow dunk it

970
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: on you or throw it on the And you mentioned

971
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: three or four blocks, but he's also given me he's

972
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: changing four or five shots as well, Like you can't

973
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: go in there and float. That motherfucker's gonna grab the

974
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, so he's alternating, altering shots, blocking shots.

975
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: He can keep a guard in front of him for

976
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: two dribbles. I mean, it's it's tough. I don't know

977
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: you've seen this man, I think now we have not.

978
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: There's no question they got a clip when he was

979
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: on one side it bro tod he had that city,

980
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: he got Lord he go go gadget. You know what

981
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He is a real go go gadget. You

982
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: feel me?

983
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Who's your MVP pick?

984
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: Then? Is it him a shitt? I say this man,

985
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: he's the most valuable to his team. I think that

986
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: if you take Shay off of Okay, see okay, so

987
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: he can still be not as good but be still competitive.

988
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: You take wind and be off san Antonio Rap, it's

989
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: not the same. Yeah, So man, if I have to

990
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: give it to somebody. It's hard to go get Shape

991
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: butter though, because Shae Butner got the best team in

992
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, I have to go Shavee butter Man.

993
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: I agree.

994
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: I think Winby has arrived a little early. I don't

995
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: think at twenty two. No, I don't think he at

996
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: twenty two. I don't think people expected this kind of performance,

997
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: which which is amazing. And to your point, the defensive

998
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: side is his. He's going to continue to get better

999
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: on the offensive side.

1000
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: That's scared.

1001
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: But with that said, I think it's Shay, you know,

1002
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: with the with the with consecutive twenty point games, over

1003
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: thirty points and shooting fifty five percent from the field,

1004
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: defending champs and your team is number one again.

1005
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Bro. You know you posted to you posted to like

1006
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: he not won it, Bro, acting like he was shit still,

1007
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: Bro got his foot on the gas, shot the shape

1008
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: butter Man, you're getting it, broil shit bro walking ball anyway,

1009
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1010
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: See you guys both got Shay. But let's look at

1011
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 4: kind of the coach of the year, because I feel

1012
00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of coaches.

1013
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: I like Jay. I like Jayalen Brown too.

1014
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: Man.

1015
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna. I can't. Jalen Brown. This is I've

1016
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: never seen this version of him. He's he was my

1017
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: second women's my It's hard to say weinby second thing

1018
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: if you get forty one nineteen three, But I can't

1019
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: even go yourself. But those those four with Luca and

1020
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: all that man was. It was a hard decision.

1021
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: If you ever think that losing you can find a

1022
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: benefit of losing your best player, because I think we

1023
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: I think Tatum is the best player on Boston. But

1024
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: I think him being down this whole year is given

1025
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown the confidence to show he can lead a team.

1026
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: It's given guys like Pritchard and the other role players

1027
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: a chance to step up. White and then there was

1028
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: no ego when he came back. He just coming off.

1029
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Shout out Ja Tatum, Eastern Conference Player of the Week.

1030
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: He came back.

1031
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: So I think, to your point, Missoula.

1032
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Is in the running. I think the coach of the

1033
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: Spurs is in the running. Yeah, I think big Johnson.

1034
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: I think bigger staffh bigger Staff is in the running.

1035
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: In Detroit. You gotta obviously look at the ok SE

1036
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 2: coach as well. I mean, they've been at the top

1037
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: the whole year. So I think it's a four man

1038
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

1039
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win. The Mozilla say he don't give a

1040
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: fuck about it, but right, you know, it's crazy to

1041
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: I think it's important for the coaches to get their flowers.

1042
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I think not only the coaches, but the coaching staff too,

1043
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: and development group. We don't talk. We don't talk a

1044
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: lot about that. Those second and third defensive coaches are

1045
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: those assistant coaches that put in the time for development

1046
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: that helps a lot of these kids get better. You

1047
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, that's what the flowers is.

1048
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, not just Joe Miszula, but

1049
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Joe Staff.

1050
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: He didn't give a staff credit. And I also don't

1051
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: think we're looking at how much Boston lost. Obviously Tatum

1052
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: was out eighty percent of the year, but you lose

1053
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 2: to Drew Holliday, you lose a porzingis to lose there,

1054
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: that's a big losing. What for four starters. You lost

1055
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 2: four stars and came back. Tatum came back, So you're

1056
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: losing that much and and still to be sitting second

1057
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference. As the hell of a feat

1058
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: that's that's that's major real talk.

1059
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: So to say all this, you guys like miss of

1060
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: the Year, I'm.

1061
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: Gonna take JB. Man. I didn't think beginning of the year,

1062
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: at least on my list, I didn't have Detroit. I

1063
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: knew Detroit. I was expecting Detroit to be like five six,

1064
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, they won't get back on the next And

1065
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: I see Kay climbing. Kate was a real live, uh

1066
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: MVP candidate this year. I saw the jump, the jump

1067
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: that I was expecting from some other players on other teams.

1068
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: I saw him make the superstar jump, you understand, and

1069
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: uh yeah. It gave me light so much that I

1070
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: watched durn Moore, I watched the whole Pistons team more,

1071
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: and and and and what JB has created up there,

1072
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: he's he's tapped into that culture that's always that's that

1073
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: that that that Piston coaches is always five basketball. It's

1074
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: always vibrating somewhere. It's always under some rocks where you

1075
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: cracking and it grows. Right. He's grown that defense that

1076
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: Detroit basketball to where it's vibbing. It's on another frequency there.

1077
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: They're really believing in, really taking on the personality of

1078
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: the city again. You know what I'm saying. Did you

1079
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: watch okay see in Detroit? I actually thought, okay, she

1080
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: was gonna blow them out, But then I thought about

1081
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: what Detroit shows up with every night, and that's heart

1082
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: and grit, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, jb

1083
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: uh to go in there and yeah, take that team

1084
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: and make it to what it is and established re

1085
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: establish a culture. Man, Yeah, that's everything. And you can't

1086
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: even leave out the Spurs guy either. What's his name again,

1087
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: miss John? All the coaches I think, I think m J,

1088
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: I think in Missoula and JB. I think to me,

1089
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: it's you throw them three up and whoever gets the wards.

1090
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at anybody. Me too cool.

1091
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the playoffs.

1092
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: See, the Hawks are trending, bro, The Hawks are trending

1093
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: upwards so hard that they probably are the most scariest

1094
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, at least in the East for me.

1095
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: Nobody know they I think they're either equal to or

1096
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: have the best second half record of the season, So

1097
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: are up there. Yeah. Yeah, like Charlotte and the Atlanta

1098
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: are like scary teams to see right now, they are

1099
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: the most trending. If I'm being excited about somebody. To

1100
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: be honest, I think Cleveland. Cleveland has an X factor

1101
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: that is kind of riding under the Nick narrative, the

1102
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Boston narrative. You don't really hear too much, you know

1103
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think they're gonna make a lot

1104
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: more noise than than people put, especially James up there.

1105
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: Cleveland's a dope time in the playoffs. No better place

1106
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: now fit in Cleveland. Who they really come out. Toronto's

1107
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: back in it. They're trending that. I know they had

1108
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: like a little skate as of late, but they've been

1109
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: trying to trend. But yeah, Atlanta, man, Atlanta is scary.

1110
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: So you think of the like the bottom half teams

1111
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: in the Easter, they have the most potential to upset

1112
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: like a top seed.

1113
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: You don't want to see Atlanta Charlotte right now? Oh

1114
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: you're for who you are.

1115
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I don't think Boston because they've been there and done that.

1116
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't think they're an upset candidate, but I have

1117
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: to see until they do it. To me, Detroit can

1118
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: be an upset candidate because they're young and this is

1119
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: their first time at the top of the hill in

1120
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: a on time.

1121
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: With a young new group.

1122
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: I think the Knicks can get through the first round

1123
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: against the Raptors, and then it's going to be a

1124
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: coin flip and what kind of player Cat's going to

1125
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: because I think he's just so instrumental his versatility and

1126
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: whether he has his foot on the gas or he's

1127
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: going to be settling, I think will dictate where the

1128
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: Knicks go. And then to take his point, Atlanta is hot,

1129
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: and is it Jalen Johnson, Yeah, but Superstar, he's right

1130
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: in Superstar, right in front of our eyes.

1131
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Comina is gonna have you know. There ain't gonna be

1132
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: no handcuffs on him.

1133
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 2: They got a talented young team in a rebuild Moe

1134
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: where they let go with Trey Young. But then Cleveland,

1135
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: we've been Cleveland's been buzzing around for a long time

1136
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: with Donovan, Mitchell and Big Fella and Mobley. And now

1137
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: you add James Harden, who has something to play for

1138
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 2: because he has a history of struggling in the playoffs.

1139
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 5: So Cleveland can be scary as well, very scary. They

1140
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 5: got a lot of potential there. I was gonna say,

1141
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: Evan Mobley, he didn't have the year that we thought

1142
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 5: he would have right, still has potential to drect breakout

1143
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 5: well webout to go to another part of the season.

1144
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 5: Guess who the focus is on, Donovan Mitchell, James Harden

1145
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: and then that's it right, perfect time to come in

1146
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 5: here office to rebound, be a post presence.

1147
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: You know, playing that post high. I would love to

1148
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: work with young fellow man. I need to bring that

1149
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: Pete Murals count back. You know what I'm talking about?

1150
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 6: The big Yeah, yeah, I need to need to start

1151
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 6: to take it camp getty big man, straight up university,

1152
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: y'alligas put a millionaire man.

1153
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make y'all about four hundred, right, Come on there, y'all.

1154
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: I may I get so upset when I watch the

1155
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: System because it ain't no like if I get it.

1156
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: If the play is for me to drip a hand

1157
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: off of Matt okay one thing, but the mask is

1158
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: denied that somebody else denied. Bro, that's one on one.

1159
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: Can't nobody help? That's that's i Q. You know what

1160
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So when I'm watching, I gets so frustrated

1161
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: with players not being aggressive. It's still true. System guys

1162
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: are being robots. I hate that, Bro, I'll be wanting

1163
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: to see the natural creativity of how you would get

1164
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: out of this, you know what I'm saying, or how

1165
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: they play in the summer, right that part, that's why

1166
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: like popping up to summer ball, because that's when you

1167
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: really see mufflers what you know what I'm saying.

1168
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 4: All Right, So that's the East. So it sounds like

1169
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: you guys like the Cavs potentially getting to the conference finals.

1170
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: But let's look West, so we have the Thunder there,

1171
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 4: they'll play a playing team, Spurs playing team. Right now,

1172
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: it's Lakers Rockets in the three six matchup, and then

1173
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 4: Nuggets timber Wolves in the four or five matches. The

1174
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 4: West has some really good potential matchups here.

1175
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: I think to start with the Lakers, hottest team trending

1176
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 2: at the right time. And I said at the very

1177
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: beginning of the season that the Rockets not having a

1178
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 2: true point guard was going to hurt them. I don't

1179
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: care about all the noise they're talking about with the

1180
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: Burners and Kate all that. To me, shit goes out

1181
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: the window. But I think shout out to Amin Thompson.

1182
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 2: I think he's done a great job of kind of

1183
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: trying to fill a point forward role. His number are great,

1184
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 2: he continues to get better, but I have to see

1185
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: Katie at this point needs his spot in his kill spots,

1186
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: and I feel like him trying to initiate the offense

1187
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: and having the back guys down and that's taking away

1188
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: his legs and taking away his shit. And then Sengoon

1189
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: is talented, but at the same time he needs to

1190
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: get the ball in his spots where he can create

1191
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: or score. So I think not having Van Fleet, I

1192
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: like Shepard, but to me, he's more of a scoring guy.

1193
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: Them not having a point guard is it was really

1194
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: to me a wasted season for this Rocket team. They

1195
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: should have went out and got someone at the deadline

1196
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 2: to fill that void until blad Fleet. So I'm taking

1197
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers in the Rocket matchup, and then that Minnesota.

1198
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: Denver is good and Minnesota got him last year. It

1199
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: was either year before last year. Right, that's gonna be chippy.

1200
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: I love McDaniels. Go Bear is gonna have to show up.

1201
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: You know, Ant's gonna show up. Jamal Murray is gonna

1202
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 2: have to show up on the On the Denverer side,

1203
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 2: we know what Yoka is gonna give us, and Reed

1204
00:53:58,520 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Gordon.

1205
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 1: Like it's that should go seven.

1206
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a nice that'll probably be the best

1207
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 2: first round UH series in the league.

1208
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: Ain't know what in the perfect world I wish they

1209
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: could be, Like I wish different could be over here

1210
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, could be over here and later yeah me

1211
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: later that that's that right there is like a Western

1212
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: Conference final right there. You got two MVPs to two teams.

1213
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: That's gonna be there for the next four five like

1214
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: Man and he got history and Whyanne Murray playing like

1215
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, listen, when Murray blowed out, he won way

1216
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: when he go why inn he got the little ship

1217
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: in his face and he got to shake it out.

1218
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,479
Speaker 2: He's the key to that team.

1219
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: He is him and Gordon Dawn if Gordon Hamstream. I'm

1220
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: telling you, bro, ain't nobody talking about Denver Man. Denver

1221
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: is my sleeper to come. I love Minnesota, but Denver's

1222
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: want of them quiet because of the depth. They wasn't

1223
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: talking about that depth too, and they've been there quickly.

1224
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray made his first All Star this year. We've

1225
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 4: always said good things about him. Is the All NBA

1226
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: this year. He's twenty five seven and four.

1227
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's all NBA because he's going

1228
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: up against Shay, He's going up against Lucas open position.

1229
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: Oh is it yes, sir?

1230
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just just five guys period. It could be

1231
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: five guards.

1232
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: He should be on one of them teams. If there's

1233
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: three teams. He agree.

1234
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's first team, but I don't.

1235
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: Know he's a second third, like he definitely second third.

1236
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: Shout out to Jamal Murray.

1237
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: He's gone through a lot of obviously physical injuries, but

1238
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: then just that mental grind too. He's had a mental

1239
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: grind that he spoke on and to see him kind

1240
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: of come out of that and and be the player

1241
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: we've seen in the past, I love it.

1242
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: Now. How do you how do you striften your mental.

1243
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: It's a good question, man. I don't know. I used

1244
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: to smoke to strengthen my mental really, but I think

1245
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: now mental is more because we didn't have to deal

1246
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 2: with social media. Ticket We didn't have to give it

1247
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: like idiot clowns got voices now and no matter if

1248
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: you try to avoid it not, you're going to hear it.

1249
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: We used to have to just deal with the ESPNS

1250
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: and Foxes in the newspaper, these these kids today, just

1251
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: I shouted out, Kayden booze they because obviously with the

1252
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: turnover and the boy hit the shot, I hit Carlos,

1253
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: and just help your son protect his mental because I

1254
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: just know how vicious there's. People are looking for people

1255
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: to make mistakes to try to destroy them mentally, and

1256
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: I feel like, now your mental is the biggest thing

1257
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: you have to protect in today's day and age, because

1258
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: it's just so much outside knows. But to your question,

1259
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. You have to have a strong circle.

1260
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: You have to, you know, continue to believe in yourself,

1261
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: speaking positive positivity into your life, keeping the negative out

1262
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: and head down and grind is what I'm guessing.

1263
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: I've always handled pressure with one phrase, get no fucks Lord.

1264
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: When I turn on to get give no fucks button,

1265
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: I might not even see you, right, I'm looking through you.

1266
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: I've always said that when it came to someone hurting me,

1267
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: I always felt like I had enough to be able

1268
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: to put up a wall or membrane to protect myself.

1269
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: So whatever I was seeing something as a threat, I've

1270
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: always thought that I could be greater than the threat, right,

1271
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: I always told everybody heard the story of I had

1272
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: my kid was on a horse and I had to

1273
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: jump up here and deal with a real, live, full

1274
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: grown fucking horse. Listen, if I'm talking to anybody out here,

1275
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: you know how you protect your mental You just hit

1276
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: the no fucks give them button and you have to

1277
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: because you can't give a fuck about all of it.

1278
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know you to give a fuck. You

1279
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. The people that's around me,

1280
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: the people that I that I that I value and

1281
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: that I treasure. Their opinions was everything everybody else's. Man,

1282
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't give a fuck. And then you know what's crazy,

1283
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm one of them niggas that if I'm in the

1284
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: game and the niggas say some crazy shit to me,

1285
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: I was one of them motherfuckers who had a button

1286
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: that I can hit that I knew I can take

1287
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: my level of play to another level. And I always

1288
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: tell my kid this, Man, if you're really mad about

1289
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: something that went on in the game, go to practice

1290
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: and do something about it. Let me see you go

1291
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: work out after you. You know what I'm saying, Like

1292
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: you have control over every part of your of your existence.

1293
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: When you think like that, and it ain't nothing. Listen,

1294
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: I ain't sitting a bit talking about I got all

1295
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: the answers, but when I go through some tough shit,

1296
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: I really lock into me and only you know you,

1297
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: you feel me. I agree, But I also say that

1298
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: every case is different. I'm a very energetic person. Some

1299
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: people are very laid back, and then I got a

1300
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: laid back version of me too, you know what I'm saying.

1301
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: So, but I also think ticket knowing you and then

1302
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: hearing and learning about your upbringing and your grind, you

1303
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 2: were built different. We were built different.

1304
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: Part you know what I mean.

1305
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: And again this is no knock on what this generation is,

1306
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: but they were built different. They were built with you know, gratification,

1307
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 2: instant gratification, instant financial reward. They were built with different shits,

1308
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: so structure, and then most of the time when it

1309
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: got tough, they can they can leave, they can go

1310
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: to another team, they can go to a different AAU team,

1311
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: they can transfer high schools, they can ads for colleges.

1312
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 2: So when there's nowhere to run, bro, if you don't

1313
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: have that foundation, it's hard to block ship out. It's

1314
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: hard to press that I don't give a fuck. But

1315
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: because it might be.

1316
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: Too.

1317
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 2: You've been giving that, you know what I mean? Like

1318
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: you have you have been given a fuck because you haven't.

1319
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: That's and and that's what I.

1320
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: Don't like about this this.

1321
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: I love it, but I don't like it because I

1322
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: felt like going to u c.

1323
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: L A.

1324
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: And they had Baron Davis's class was number recruiting class.

1325
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: I came in the next you we had number recruiting class.

1326
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: I just sitting on that bench and learn and and

1327
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: and cry at night sometimes and work harder and build

1328
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: character to be like, motherfucker, if you want to play,

1329
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: you got it. There's no running, there's no going somewhere

1330
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: to other school. There's I can't call my mom and

1331
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: dad and tell them to talk like I had to

1332
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: do it myself. But to me, that built something in

1333
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: me that by the time I got to the league,

1334
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: it was it was a tough start for me, but

1335
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 2: I had a foundation to go back to and like, okay,

1336
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: come on, man, you'ven't been through this.

1337
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: Let's go.

1338
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: A lot of these kids, every time it got tough,

1339
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: they they skated. So when there's know where to run,

1340
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 2: then when you gotta really look at yourself in the mirror,

1341
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: is there's something there to stand on.

1342
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: That's true foundation. Thank you for I have to see that.

1343
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: That's a gym, y'all. Damn Seriously, every time we get

1344
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: every time we get together.

1345
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: Dollars always, we always cook always.

1346
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: I never I never said down with you and chopped

1347
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: and bill with you, bro, And then it always takes

1348
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: me back, like, hey, how the fuck me and man

1349
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: never hung out before and did not think about that

1350
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: we were fucking animals, That's why. But it is I'm

1351
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: talking about in the sense of where I'm talking about,

1352
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: like this, we're around the same people. We never, we never,

1353
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: we never, But then when I know what we were

1354
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: like back then you see why. Yeah, you know what

1355
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1356
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: Neither of us are going to extend the hand while

1357
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: were different.

1358
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm always observing I'm the o g in this. I'm

1359
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: older than them, so I'm doing this. I got all

1360
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: these new hitters out here, our new hitters out here,

1361
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: you know. And then you remember, I got a memory.

1362
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: I seen him in Philly, I seen him in I

1363
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: seen him all in this duration. Each time I seen him,

1364
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: he's gotten nastier and nastier. I first met him, he

1365
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: had like a little girl he was kind of I

1366
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say he was sawt smoking, but he had

1367
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: an as toy man. Then they got the side. I

1368
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: was like, man, this map mother fi. Yeah, man ship,

1369
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: He'll take your ship off man. Matt Moorean found shut that.

1370
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. Then I started getting the backstory

1371
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: on what was going on in his life, and I

1372
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: started understanding, and I had I had a in the fraternity.

1373
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: I had a sympathetic part of me for that. I

1374
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: couldn't show it, but but when I seen him, it

1375
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: was certain good. He was you know what I'm saying,

1376
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: respect respect go a long way special among the room

1377
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: were full of respectable people.

1378
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: We came in an air. Someone just said maybe it

1379
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: was Gary Sheffield when I and I did a baseball interview.

1380
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we didn't shot through your baseball shit. We

1381
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: got we got to talk about that.

1382
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: He said. We didn't fratnize with our opponent. That part

1383
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: we came from a different time, Like we didn't. We

1384
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: weren't homies. If we did, unless unless it was a

1385
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: friend of a friend, that we was cool and then

1386
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: brought us together. But as far as like you had

1387
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: a different uniform, mon we wasn't fucking with the other

1388
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: team like that.

1389
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: And oh, I'm talking about summer time like and then

1390
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: if it was a nigga on his team that I

1391
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: ain't fun and then it.

1392
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Was guiltybody association listen. And for me too, it was

1393
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: always over because obviously he was he was one of

1394
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: the best. He was someone I watched growing up, and

1395
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm just like, damn, I wish I could play with KG,

1396
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: but I can like it to your point, I can

1397
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: never show that.

1398
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna fire the ship out of him and web

1399
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: stand over nigga. I'm like, I can see they like yeah, yeah,

1400
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: I was like, OK, he just he's just right. That's

1401
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: what's crazy about ball. You could be cool, Hey, what's up.

1402
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: You're good, and then a mother I have to go

1403
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: across your head and he'd be looking at you like,

1404
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: what's up? You know what I'm saying? Different, Yeah, it was.

1405
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: It was a different time, yo, different time. And then

1406
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: you know what, I wouldn't want to be part of

1407
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: no other time than it's not ticket.

1408
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 4: I want to go back to just talking about the

1409
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 4: playoff matchups. You're from the future. I feel like you've

1410
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 4: got a good sense of what's to come. Who's a

1411
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 4: player kind of in this postseason coming up that will

1412
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 4: emerge and will end the postseason talking about, Wow, this

1413
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 4: guy really elevated his game. Who's that guy?

1414
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: I to you, Oh, I feel like potentially, because we

1415
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: all the attentions should be and it's going to be

1416
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: probably on Luca and Broun, Austin Reeves has the potential

1417
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: to have a really impactful right. Julius Rando is another

1418
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: person that I think has another level to him that

1419
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: he can actually be an impact from twenty five twelve

1420
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: kind of you know what I'm saying, Like a lot

1421
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: of stuff. I see him that if he slows down

1422
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and just puts some simplicity in his game,

1423
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: he can he can add he can add another ten

1424
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: to twelve points to his game, you know what I'm saying.

1425
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: Devin Booker, No one's talks about the Phoenix, Phoenixio Phoenix.

1426
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: To me, it's like the West Coast God damn Atlanta

1427
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: and not playing as well. But they got to cast

1428
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: the guys that play hard. Shout Brooks, Billan, Dylan brook

1429
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks. They got they got g green back. He

1430
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: just got back, he back. You know, he was hurt

1431
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: the majority of the year. But yeah, man, crazy run

1432
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: that man. I'm a I'm a man, if I'm a man,

1433
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna sit here and say somebody because I

1434
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: just put all the Joker Man, I think all the

1435
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: flares been up on wind being it man, Joker, Joker

1436
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: on have one of these quiet dominant And I hate

1437
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: to say that because I don't want to see that

1438
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: against my Wolves, But the Joker Joker been dominating for

1439
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: a long for a while, and we and it's been

1440
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 1: overshadowed by Luca or some eighty three. You know what

1441
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Bamn ship, you know what I'm saying, Big

1442
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: fella been hooping quietly.

1443
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: My two guys are on the same t and in

1444
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: the same back court. Baron Fox in the playoffs. I

1445
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: think this will be his second time in the playoffs,

1446
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 2: one time with the Kings and then Stefan Castle. I

1447
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: think he'll make y'all like him. He's dope on both

1448
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: sides of the ball, and the Aaron is great on

1449
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball too, So I think that backcourt,

1450
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: with the way we already know what Wimby's gonna give us.

1451
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 2: Wimby doesn't seem to be affected by no type of

1452
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: lights or environment, So he's going to be the constant.

1453
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: It's always what your others are going to give you.

1454
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: When I say others respectfully, because both those guys Fox

1455
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 2: and Castle both very good. But I think that backcourt

1456
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: can be the key. And what are they three and

1457
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: one against okay See this year and more than one

1458
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 2: against okay See this year.

1459
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 1: I keep talking about this regular season ship don't mean shit,

1460
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying they're not.

1461
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,959
Speaker 2: They're not going to go into that ship against okay

1462
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: See afraid at all. They're gonna go in with a high.

1463
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the way we win it against

1464
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: Dallas when we were the eighth seed with Golden State.

1465
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: We were three and one against him, if I'm not mistaken,

1466
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: in the regular season, and we went in believing as

1467
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 2: an eight seed, we don't give a fuck that Dirk

1468
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: was the MVP, and they won six seven games. We

1469
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: beat these motherfuckers already, and that's the mindset we went with.

1470
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's kind of the regularly doesn't

1471
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: mean ship. You're one hundred percent right, but they have

1472
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: the confidence to know that we can play with these dudes,

1473
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: and they're going in thinking we can beat these motherfuckers.

1474
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Okay, s gotta go. Okay,

1475
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: little bro, Yeah, belt that ass. You have to belt

1476
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: that ass. You might have to sweep these niggas, no choice.

1477
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: You might need to go full o these like y'all

1478
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: don't get a game. We're gonna show y'all, y'all good, Okay, cool.

1479
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: It's just like Jason or Freddy, like you shoot them

1480
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: one time and you okay, we won, and hudgs like

1481
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 2: now you got to cut them off from them, sheds off.

1482
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: Something. You have to Okay, gonna have to be like,

1483
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: you know what, Let's go in the bathroom.

1484
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: I have to.

1485
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: Let's gonna get some tail business in the stall. That's

1486
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: what me and you in the Star phone book, phone booth.

1487
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: You gotta get some because bro out here talking crazy yell,

1488
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: we beat them three out of themself. Should be m

1489
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: v P men. Fuck them niggas. You know, he said

1490
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: everything but fuck them niggas. Camera, He said everything but

1491
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: fuck the niggas. Right, he said everything real ship, he

1492
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: said everything out there. Yeah, we beating. He really want

1493
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: to fuck the niggas.

1494
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: I gotta see it.

1495
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it because this is gonna

1496
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: be on till straight up and you got to get

1497
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: there and they listen. I am anticipating him putting some

1498
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: wood on one NBAS dog he feeling. I ain't saying

1499
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: hard filing, but the physicality of the NBA has to

1500
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: be felt, especially during the playoffs, and I see, I

1501
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: ain't really seeing how he reacts to physical play. You

1502
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We ain't really seen that.

1503
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, you gotta go upside his head.

1504
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to. Somebody's gonna put some you know, hey,

1505
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: there's some calm down. They're gonna hit you with the

1506
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: calm down, Calm down, put some calm down, calm your

1507
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: ass down, your fellon. So, Matt, we got Illinois and

1508
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: Yukon and what's the other one that Michigan, Arizona, Michigan

1509
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: and Arizona. Let's start with Illinois and Yukon.

1510
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: You talked about him earlier. They built something different in

1511
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: college basketball. They they they've built that that that over

1512
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: the water influx. These boys are playing and similar to

1513
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: the NBA. Man, it's about being hot at the right time.

1514
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: So I really like them. I think yukon Is is tough.

1515
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: I think they take on the personality of their coach.

1516
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,520
Speaker 2: But they're gonna have to be hitting on all cylinders

1517
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 2: to get Illinois. I mean, they came back and walked

1518
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 2: duke down and hit the big shot to get themselves there.

1519
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: But they're gonna have to be hitting on all cylinders

1520
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: because these these these euro boys don't give a fuck.

1521
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: About none of that. Do stiles matter?

1522
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think I think so. I definitely think so.

1523
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 2: I think styles are always always come into plays.

1524
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: This Connecticut team.

1525
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 2: This Connecticut and who's who's the guy and he didn't

1526
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: have a big game last game. I want to say

1527
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: he's a senior or a fifth year senior, the one

1528
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 2: that shot the ball really well, the bigger kid, what's

1529
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: his name, Caravan. He's got to be big because to me,

1530
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 2: you kind of doesn't have that guy that you know

1531
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna go get that bucket from a.

1532
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: Big fellow ship, throw that ship down a big fellow boy.

1533
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: I listen, shut the bit.

1534
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: I like him. He's tough, what's his name?

1535
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Nice? What's his name? He looked like a big jump red.

1536
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: He's tough, handful down there, but he had a thirty

1537
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: twenty game. Didn't he listen? Yeah, he listened a handfull

1538
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: down there, Matt.

1539
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 2: That's I just haven't seen it since our time, a

1540
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: big man carry a team in college anywhere, yo get

1541
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 2: But outside of that, like, it's not it's always been

1542
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 2: a guard game. So if he's that, I love it,

1543
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,560
Speaker 2: and he's gonna have to be that. I feel like

1544
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: to be Illinois and I'll be there. I haven't seen

1545
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 2: Illinois play a time, but what I've seen in the

1546
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: tournament is they just go, they go, They get it.

1547
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: Up to you like in that in that game, you

1548
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: know it's I like you, cab man. You taste the

1549
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: personality of their coach. I love her coach, right, I

1550
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: like the big fellow down there. I like how they

1551
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: full out one end, you know what I'm saying.

1552
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: And Mullins hasn't had a big game yet, and he's

1553
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,720
Speaker 2: very capable, and he's coming off the biggest shot of

1554
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: his life, one of the biggest shots in Yukon history.

1555
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: Confidence.

1556
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm looking for him to come into the

1557
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: Final four as a freshman, which is asking a lot,

1558
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: but he's I think he might be on that high still,

1559
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be interesting.

1560
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: Another thing I'm throwing into the equation is Uka's been

1561
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: here before. You know that goes I don't know if

1562
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: Illinois like. I like how they're playing, but it's almost

1563
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: like a big a big fight. Uh you know all

1564
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: of that goes into play. You know what I'm saying,

1565
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: driddling all that how you you know what I'm saying.

1566
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm just I'm saying, you called to winners

1567
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: just because of their experience. I'm going to Illinois. Okay,

1568
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: what about mischigeious and Arizona just gonna be to get

1569
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: on right here.

1570
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: Michigan is hot. Michigan is hot right now, and you

1571
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: got some times to Michigan. Now, congratulations, your daughter's going

1572
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: to Michigan.

1573
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. We were with them,

1574
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: so I have throw it up. You know what I'm saying.

1575
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 2: I've had Arizona from the jump, like they got some

1576
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: stars on that got some young boys that could really

1577
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 2: play Ko Pete and and Buries, both of them.

1578
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1579
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: Burris is from out here in Peach, from Arizona. I

1580
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: like the point guard, the dark skinned kid.

1581
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: He's tough, he's he's battle tested, and then he would

1582
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: take the shot.

1583
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: And then they got the big boy who doesn't put

1584
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: up huge numbers, but he was a big the.

1585
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: White boy, the big white boy.

1586
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not he but he's just big. He's

1587
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: a big body. He got around the nice, soft hands,

1588
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: can score the ball, rebound, block shots, hard foul I've had.

1589
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: But again, Michigan is hot at the right time. And

1590
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 2: who's the who's their guy? What's his name?

1591
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dominican kid. He's tough or something like that. He

1592
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: got he got a crazy he be talking ship too,

1593
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: Like listen, I'm going blue.

1594
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: But is that the first their coaches his first year,

1595
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 2: right coaches the first show right, so to take over

1596
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 2: for Juwan Howard. And now you see this team is

1597
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 2: in the final four. It's either as forts the second year.

1598
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: What I like is is to me, there's no clear

1599
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 2: cut favorite, Like we don't know who is gonna win

1600
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: this shit. I think it's a coin flip for each

1601
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: of these teams. Not mistaken, Michigan is favored in that

1602
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: game too, aren't They ate by one and a half.

1603
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 4: And it's correct that the Michigan coach, Dusty May he's

1604
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 4: been there since twenty twenty.

1605
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: Four, so two years yeah, okay, yeah, but the way

1606
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 2: he's been able to kind of turn that program around.

1607
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: Michigan then boys is hot. But I got I got Arizona.

1608
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: I like Michigan, but I got Arizona in this.

1609
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, So Michigan's favored, and then Illinois is also favored.

1610
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: In those games those two two of the lower seeds, Well,

1611
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: Michigan's a one.

1612
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 4: But Illinois is a three seed versus Yukon being a

1613
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 4: two seed. And then Michigan and Arizona are both one seeds.

1614
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: But Arizona was higher than Michigan, right, and that like

1615
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: the ap Yeah, so that really it's the two not

1616
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: that I wouldn't say underdogs, but it's final four, but

1617
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: two lower seeds are favored.

1618
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. That's crazy. Who you like it win?

1619
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: All sadd none, I'm gonna say with Arizona, I rode

1620
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 2: with them too far. I'm always and obviously it's not

1621
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: Pack ten or packed twelve no more, but I always

1622
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: represent West Coast team.

1623
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: So I got Arizona, I got you, I got you.

1624
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going with Michigan, man, I see them playing

1625
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 1: like this. I hate to go watching how Illinois is

1626
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: just and then the crazy you call run. But yeah,

1627
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: I think it's going to come from e the Michigan

1628
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: or or Arizona. But I'm going to Michigan. Hey listen,

1629
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: First off, man, it always got like to give y'all

1630
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: your flowers. Man' y'all shit, bro, y'all grow y'all ship

1631
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: into a whole other thing. Y'all are not just day

1632
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: one of what y'all started. I see y'all now tapping

1633
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: into baseball. Baseball needs all culture. I don't think MLB

1634
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: knows how to enter this culture. I do think they've

1635
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 1: never been here. I don't think the president's ever been

1636
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: focused on having black people watch baseball games. When when

1637
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: we were fans of the Negro League and we built

1638
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, some parts of the.

1639
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: US growing up was the Black boom and baseball and

1640
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: we were all for it.

1641
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,879
Speaker 1: Us and yeah, yes, us growing up the seventies, babies

1642
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: and on up and all that ship. And that's where

1643
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 1: I know baseball from. So it's great to have this

1644
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: surge and this joke of of of of of of goodness.

1645
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: I love the collapse talk about how you guys got

1646
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: the opportunity, how.

1647
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: You came about man, shout at my brother C. C.

1648
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 2: Sabathia man, he kind of opened the doors and obviously

1649
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: shout out MLB. We've had a few meetings up there

1650
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: and it's just kind of bringing what we've done and

1651
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: in basketball to the baseball side. And growing up I

1652
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: was a huge baseball fan.

1653
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: In boxing, Bro Shot the smoke Man, Real.

1654
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: Ship Jones are definitely doing a great job in the

1655
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 2: fight space, but baseball is something I grew up loving,

1656
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: played it, and I'm a nostalgia type guy.

1657
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: The eighties and nineties is what I love.

1658
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 2: Early two thousands kind of lost connection, but this partnership

1659
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 2: has has got me back in the game and learning

1660
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: these younger new guys. But to your point, I think

1661
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 2: it was there was just the It's been a conversation

1662
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: for a while about black baseball and and and the

1663
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 2: lack of representation, and I think that you know, being

1664
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: able to shine a light on it from a different angle.

1665
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 2: We've got nothing but positive feedback from the baseball space,

1666
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 2: So shout out you know see why, And and Nick Swisher,

1667
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 2: who's been working with me on the on the analysts

1668
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 2: and and and interview side, we're about to launch Jump

1669
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: in Bed. And on the football side, so this next

1670
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: season will be in the football side.

1671
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: Ship, say word football, and then you're gonna have to

1672
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: control your ship. You know you're in the football. Yeah.

1673
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, man, we get to

1674
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 2: bed with the w W E as well.

1675
01:15:56,160 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh many restless. Yeah, the fun matt Man. Listen, I've

1676
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: been not seeing on nobody top rope. I don't say

1677
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: don't hey, hey.

1678
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 2: I can't do it. My body ain't got that. But

1679
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 2: I definitely got these new bodies the.

1680
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 1: Nah. But again, growing up. You know what's up about this, bros.

1681
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: Is just growing up.

1682
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: I was someone probably similar to you, that did played

1683
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: everything and watched everything, and wrestling was on Saturday morning.

1684
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: They used to have the cartoon with it and everything.

1685
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: So just kind of being able to tap back into that.

1686
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 2: Obviously I was a better football player than basketball player,

1687
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: so being able to get into the football space has

1688
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 2: been a blessing. And then again I still play weekend

1689
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: softball on Sunday nights at it UH and see no

1690
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: at the field. So just being able to get into

1691
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: stuff that I love and being able to bring value

1692
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 2: to that space has been fun. Man, So shout out

1693
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: the whole all the Smoke family. Were continuing to build

1694
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: and and and just you know, trying to find new

1695
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: fun ways to tell stories and shining light on stuff

1696
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: that that that needs light shining on it.

1697
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: A dog, bru brih over there, tell me that you say,

1698
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: what up? You know what I'm saying, the whole family? Yeah, yeah,

1699
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's everything right, my dog July over there,

1700
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: Stack five, tell him myself?

1701
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 2: What up?

1702
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: Man?

1703
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shout the stack? Yeah, I got it man.

1704
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: You know we download, you know, you know what I'm saying.

1705
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 1: Put the you know, you know you need these numbers.

1706
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, shout the five man.

1707
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming through. Lord, appreciate you. Always a pleasure, brother,

1708
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: Thank you. Congrass that's what. Yeah,