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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the BC Live Chat. This is the

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Speaker 1: second time we're gonna do this. Hopefully this will be

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Speaker 1: a weekly, bi weekly what does that even mean? Twice

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Speaker 1: But the BC Live chat, it's going to change, evolve,

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Speaker 1: to open today's BC live chat is what went down

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Speaker 1: this morning in Tokyo, Japan. I set my a new

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Speaker 1: to check out the pound four pound best boxer on

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Speaker 1: many others around the world, and that's the Japanese Monster

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Speaker 1: Nioa Anwe, who in his home country this morning unified

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Speaker 1: all four world titles at bantamweight one hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 1: pounds by stopping Paul Butler and the tenth round to

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Speaker 1: Do you already know what happened? Donair broke Anway's face,

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Speaker 1: with twenty one KOs and this right against Paul Butler here,

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Speaker 1: Nobody expected this to be close on paper. Butler won

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Speaker 1: But he did try to slowly lure Butler out. He

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Speaker 1: He was doing anything to try to bring Paul Butler's

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Speaker 1: But he also has that sick, ridiculous explosive power where

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Speaker 1: when he lands clean with that right hand, people go away.

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Speaker 1: They go away quickly, they go away violently. Butler probably

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Speaker 1: single jab or a single right counter. Hey, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you just wanted to say, look, I'm a

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Speaker 1: to be fair here. Paul Butler as a champion. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, a made man for life, and you know

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Speaker 1: a lot of that is the history and the build

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Speaker 1: up and the fights he took in the way he fights,

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Speaker 1: but he was also part of to the last two

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Speaker 1: biggest pay per views we've seen. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: UFC can lose right now for Connor versus pat and

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Speaker 1: I think from an actual fight breakdown standpoint, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we really know who would win that. There's so

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Speaker 1: many questions about what Connor's going to look like, Holly's

438
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Speaker 1: body's gonna react to injury, what's he gonna have left,

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Speaker 1: can he pass the drug test? All that might be

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Speaker 1: time right now to just make the biggest, most fun

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Speaker 1: fight you possibly can, because Patty Pimblet may never actually

442
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Speaker 1: get there on his own. He might not. It doesn't

443
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Speaker 1: always happen. That fight on Saturday was a red flag

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Speaker 1: of a large degree. It could just be an aberration.

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Speaker 1: It could be a bad night at the office, could

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Speaker 1: be a bad training camp. It could be just a

447
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Speaker 1: conflux of sort of poor luck in the moment to

448
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Speaker 1: produce just a bad night out. But we forget it

449
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Speaker 1: next time and he goes in there and blows somebody.

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Speaker 1: Wait as possible, but what if it's not, And what

451
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Speaker 1: if you can make the biggest fight right now when

452
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Speaker 1: people have legitimate doubts, making conmac gregor a baby face

453
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Speaker 1: in the process. Again, it's pro wrestling logic. It also

454
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Speaker 1: works in pay per view sales, which is why Dana

455
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Speaker 1: has been so successful somewhat taking the McMahon. You know,

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Speaker 1: a game plan and how they promote. So I know

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Speaker 1: people don't want to hear that, but you know, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, folks, it's true. Final point

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Speaker 1: before we get to your questions, is this Number three

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Speaker 1: NBA breaking news that I got on my phone this

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Speaker 1: morning is this, and I like this move, is that

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Speaker 1: the NBA has decided to change their award naming schemes

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Speaker 1: to honor, you know, heroes of the past, changing the

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Speaker 1: name of the MVP Trophy and naming it after Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: changing the Defensive Player of the Year award to be

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Speaker 1: the Hakimlaju On one, the Wild Chamberlain Trophy will be

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Speaker 1: for Rookie of the Year. The John Havlchick Trophy will

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Speaker 1: now be six Men of the Year and the George

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Speaker 1: Mike and Trophy will be for most improved player, although

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily get the correlation. They're unimproved since you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike and came into the league at an early stage

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Speaker 1: out of De Paul and absolutely dominated wearing the number

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, winning a three PET for the Minneapolis Lakers.

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Speaker 1: But it's good to honor the past just the same.

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Speaker 1: So while on that thread, I know that the NBA

476
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Speaker 1: did this a couple of years ago. They changed, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Bill Russell NBA Finals MVP. They named the almost

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Speaker 1: like a humanitarian social justice award after Kareema Buil, which

479
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Speaker 1: is a strong move. But I can't believe I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this as a longtime Celtics fan who's sort of been

481
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Speaker 1: like a known outed Kobe hater in the Lakers versus

482
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Speaker 1: Celtics rivalry, even though I probably shouldn't because I've always

483
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Speaker 1: respected Kobe's medal and you know, like Stephen Jackson and myself,

484
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Speaker 1: he's a class of ninety six dude, and I've been

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Speaker 1: following him from high school to that point. But most

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Speaker 1: before this change. In the recent changes, every award dated

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Speaker 1: back to NBA for the most part, really dated back

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Speaker 1: to NBA's early history of you know, the late forties, fifties,

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Speaker 1: sixties in terms of you know who these things were

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Speaker 1: named after. Even though Jerry West is still alive and

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Speaker 1: still a major part of the NBA and in a

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Speaker 1: senior patriarch role, and you know, he was as good

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Speaker 1: a a executive for years as he was an all

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Speaker 1: time great player, He's long been the logo, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's always worked from that, you know, that silhouette

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Speaker 1: and sort of the representation that if there's one player

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Speaker 1: that represents who the NBA is, it's Back in the day,

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Speaker 1: it certainly was Jerry West. Perseverance, talent, leadership, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Kobe Bryant, alright, p First

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Speaker 1: of all, cashtag girl dad, like Luke Thomas shout out.

501
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Speaker 1: People have a hero worship thing with him. That's sometimes

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Speaker 1: I don't always fully understand. But if I'm going to

503
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Speaker 1: force myself to the whole black Mama thing is a

504
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Speaker 1: mindset and I get it, and it is something special

505
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Speaker 1: and it is something unique. He's, as Joe Rogan would

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Speaker 1: probably say, and a lead into a major UFC pay

507
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Speaker 1: per view video package. He's extraordinary. Among extraordinary men from

508
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Speaker 1: a work ethic, just you know, perseverance level, comeback from injury.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's been almost nobody ever like Kobe. And

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Speaker 1: it's like Kobe didn't end up winning more championships or

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Speaker 1: MVPs than Michael Jordan, but he came close. And of course,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, he was looked at as a Michael Jordan

513
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Speaker 1: clone for a long time and obviously developed his own

514
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Speaker 1: legacy and reputation, but mixed with the idea that him

515
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Speaker 1: dying so young was a major blow to the basketball

516
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Speaker 1: universe in general and exactly what he did represent. And

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Speaker 1: we got to learn that the more Kobe, a famously

518
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Speaker 1: private person, seemed to like open the curtain a little

519
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Speaker 1: bit at the end of his career. Did the documentary

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Speaker 1: with Showtime. He you know, he did some things that

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Speaker 1: even a guy like me who never liked him how

522
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Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, dude, that guy's guy's all about this.

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Speaker 1: That guy is all in, and I think that it

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Speaker 1: is an inspiring lesson for all of us. I think

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Speaker 1: the ultimate honor here it's Kobe Bryan as the new silhouette,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's time upgrade, and it's in line

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Speaker 1: with with Michael Jordan becoming the new MVP and all that,

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Speaker 1: and for me to say that that that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: But uh, hey, Kobe, I think you're in it. I

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Speaker 1: think he deserved that. Let's see if the NBA takes

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Speaker 1: me up. You know what's gonna happen first, that or

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Speaker 1: the women's heavyweight division in the UFC. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know all right. What I do know here, folks,

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Speaker 1: is I love you and this is about you. So

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Speaker 1: we kind of broke down. We got some questions left

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Speaker 1: over from last week. We've been acquiring questions overnight on

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Speaker 1: the on that community tab on our Morning Combat YouTube page.

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Speaker 1: You've been sending in from all angles. Shout out to

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Speaker 1: my great and trustee producer Mikey more Miles, CBS Sports.

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Speaker 1: We've got them broken down into different categories, MMA, boxing, music, miscellaneous, life,

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Speaker 1: whatever you got there. I'm gonna bounce around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Take your questions. Let's get this thing rolling for BC

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Speaker 1: Live Chat two, Episode two. Thank you all right from

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Speaker 1: MMA master Let's kick off in the world of Mixed

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Speaker 1: Martial Arts. Here BC, If you fought Luke, I think

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Speaker 1: this means Luke Thomas in a cage who would be

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Speaker 1: your dream corner, all right. I love Luke Thomas. I

548
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Speaker 1: love fighting Luke Thomas when it when it when it means,

549
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Speaker 1: when it makes sense to in a show sense, right be.

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Speaker 1: I love competing against Luke Thomas. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: fight Luke Thomas though at the end there's a big dude,

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Speaker 1: he's got some fight experience. It's maybe he got you know,

553
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: maybe got some emotional trauma that you know he would

554
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: probably take out on your boy BC. You know, but

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Speaker 1: if I had to entertain this discussion my dream corner,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm avowing Mike Thomas Brown as the trainer

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Speaker 1: and Mike Brown att and you know I got we

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Speaker 1: got to Luke and I just got to see him recently.

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Speaker 1: He was in the room when we interviewed Danny Sabatello,

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Speaker 1: who of course, you know, he's his lead trainer, and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get him on the RSD couch

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Speaker 1: one day. I've always loved Mike Thomas Brown as a fighter.

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Speaker 1: He was the the that dude at the end of

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Speaker 1: the video game and the WEC when your Iah Faber

565
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Speaker 1: became this crossover surfboard looking star and you know, he

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Speaker 1: ran into Mike Brown twice and got handled. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown did eventually graduate. Mike Brown got handled by

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Speaker 1: Josie although because everybody did back then, but he did

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Speaker 1: go on to the UFC, and he had an abbreviated

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Speaker 1: an end to his career because of injury. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: you know, he's not a self promoter, so he's not

572
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Speaker 1: out here, you know, sharing his highlight reels and reminding

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Speaker 1: people that he was once a badass. But I have

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Speaker 1: so much respect for that guy, and I think he's

575
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Speaker 1: become a better coach than he was a fighter. And

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Speaker 1: you know, and I kind of got into that through

577
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Speaker 1: always hearing you want to talk about Mikey Mikey Brown.

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Speaker 1: Who who the heck is Mikey Brown? Guy? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you know, oh shit, MTB, that's who they got in

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Speaker 1: their corner. So I'm gonna get Mike Thomas Brown. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get probably Latory Gonzales. I think that's her name,

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Speaker 1: you know, coach Littori in the corner, because you do

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Speaker 1: need one hype person. You do need one person to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're doing great. BC. You know, I'm not gonna get

585
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Speaker 1: drunk Okamoto like Oscar Willis accidentally had, But you know

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Speaker 1: I'll get I got Mike Brown for strategy. I got

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Speaker 1: Littori for you know, guidance, make sure everything's okay. I

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Speaker 1: got the UFC appointed cut man, hopefully, Don House, who's

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Speaker 1: a boxing guy shot at to Don House once trained

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Speaker 1: Bermain Steverne to the heavyweight title before Deontay Wild there

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Speaker 1: uh won a decision over him after breaking his hand.

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Speaker 1: But who's gonna be my third person? It's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's not gonna be James Krause, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: my best chance is to start up that podcast idea

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00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: I had where him and I would come together as

596
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Speaker 1: a new spinoff MKD what would call it? H Parlays

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00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: and Punani that it'd be fantastic, right, Probably not gonna

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Speaker 1: be him, though, my third person would be uh no,

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Speaker 1: not Josh Fabia, please stop that. Stop that. You know,

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Speaker 1: my third person will probably be Freddie Roach because I

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Speaker 1: would like to have you know, Freddie Roch has crossed

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Speaker 1: over a little bit. Bring you know, the boxing guy

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Speaker 1: will bring a little box with me. He's done some

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Speaker 1: MMA fights. He certainly can adapt the striking there. And

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Speaker 1: you know, if I'm gonna get in there, with Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to live and die by the jab.

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Speaker 1: It's the only thing I got, the only fights background

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Speaker 1: I ever have was doing some boxing training and some

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Speaker 1: sparring for a year in two thousand and four, and

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Speaker 1: you know, getting mixed up a little bit. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I fought the Lennox Lewis big Man style there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I worked behind that jab. So I'm gonna need Freddie

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Speaker 1: Roach to sit down with me, watch GSP cost check

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Speaker 1: two as many times as we can and figure out

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Speaker 1: how to close Luke Thomas's eye in this mythical fight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but you know he's eventually gonna shoot right nothing a

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Speaker 1: double leg couldn't figure out. And you know then he'll

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Speaker 1: probably utes me, or sit on me or crop ust me.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, I don't know, like I do.

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Speaker 1: Want we all wonder, you know that there's that nineties lyric.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm not a coward. I've just never been tested,

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Speaker 1: but I'd like to think if I was, I would

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Speaker 1: pass by the mighty mighty Bosstones. And you know, I've

624
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Speaker 1: certainly been tested by life a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 1: But I think we all wonder, you know if I'm

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Speaker 1: in the mall and somebody you know, uh makes a

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Speaker 1: disrespectful comment pushes my wife, and I'm all, it's on

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Speaker 1: right there. We're fighting right now. You know, you know,

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Speaker 1: how would we handle ourselves? Would we would we tap

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Speaker 1: quickly or would we find out that you know, deep

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Speaker 1: inside we were fighting against having to use or sharpen

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Speaker 1: a tool within us that actually was good enough all along.

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Speaker 1: So you know what, fuck that, Luke Thomas, if we're

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Speaker 1: getting into this fight, I ain't tapping rich all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm choosing a nap. I'm choosing violence first of all

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Speaker 1: when but I ain't tapping. I'm going full Nogara brother. Okay,

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00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna submit me,

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Speaker 1: you're taking my arm home with you after a commero okay,

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00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna go buy UFC one rule so

640
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: I can definitely hackney you in the ball bag a

641
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: lot of times. Uh, Mikey, do you have a question

642
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: for me? You reached out to me recently in this

643
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: live chat. What do you got for me here? Hit

644
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: me up on a follow up here, Michael Mormile. This

645
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: is from Dylan Hagar Dud Dylan Hager is a great.

646
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: First of all, I love all our MK fans and viewers,

647
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: but some of you guys come with me. A lot

648
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: of you guys are Luke Thomas, day one p ones, right,

649
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: guy like Dylan Hager comes with me from my podcast past.

650
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Who wins three on three half court? Oh?

651
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I love this basketball team m K versus Team s OC.

652
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: So the m K team is Luke Thomas, Chuckmanen Hall,

653
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: and AB. That's Aaron Brons there. Wow, So BC not

654
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: in this game. I'm just finding out. Uh. The team

655
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: s OC is my former podcast partners over there at

656
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: CBS Sports, Adam Silverstein, the Greek, Nick Costos, and Raf Bartholomew.

657
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: So Team s O. He could be hurting here, but

658
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: the saving graces Rafe can play. As Bill Simmons once

659
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: famously said, he is a stretch for Raf Bartholomew grew

660
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: up Manhattan, played in New York City high school basketball

661
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: with Smush Parker played AAU is a you know, six '

662
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: four lefty ginger stretch who can nail some shots. Still

663
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: active playing today. I hadn't Silverstein probably be a car wreck.

664
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: Shout out to my former out of there there and

665
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: Nick Costa is a very handsome man, but I don't

666
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: know if he's got ball game. Now the question comes

667
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: down to this. On the others, you know what, Tim

668
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Mesos is gonna be just fine with RAF winning this game.

669
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: What am I talking about? Luke's big Luke's lateral movement

670
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: is definitely suspect at this point, and you know he

671
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: hasn't played consider Like, here's the deal. I'm not a

672
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: great athlete, but I played basketball every single year from

673
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: age ten sixth grade until this year. This year was

674
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: the first year I took off, and I was very

675
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: nervous and hesitant to do that. My travel schedule is crazy.

676
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: To commit in the weekly game that I play in,

677
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: you gotta be in decent shape. I mean they are

678
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: old guys, but they'll run you off the court if

679
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: you're and puffing with a bad liver. So I took

680
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: the year off. But you know, even washed I've been

681
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: playing recent enough, I play my son every other day

682
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: in the driveway. I mean, I'll still put something on you.

683
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't think Luke's doing much down there. Do they

684
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: have somebody that can guard him? Race's gonna have to

685
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: use that height in reach. I think you can do that,

686
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: Chuckman and all. I love this man, but I don't

687
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: believe he has a basketball game. All right, And you know,

688
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Brown Stevers said he was a high school athlete. I

689
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: mean what high school was that, you know, Hamilton, Ontario.

690
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. You know, I need to

691
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: see that to believe it. I'm taking team sc Let's

692
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: keep the questions hot, fast and ready and rolling. Let's

693
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: go over to the sport of boxing for the next one.

694
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Let's go over to a fellow by the name of

695
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: grizz Hey. BC was wondering if there was ever a

696
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: boxer who you were not a fan of initially but

697
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 1: eventually came around to really enjoying them, whether that be

698
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: based on fight style, ring persona, et cetera. That's a

699
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: decent question here, griz one that I don't sort of

700
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: have a knee jerk reaction. Let's sort of quickly talk

701
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: this out together. I mean, there's certainly been boxers along

702
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: the way that, you know, like may fighters, I've doubted

703
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: and been out on really doubting them. Abner Marris is

704
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: one of them. He first came up and you know,

705
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: was in that Showtime Tournament at Vantam Wade and God

706
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: Russell Moore of the referee, God bless you when when

707
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Mars fought I Beco and hit him in the balls,

708
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know forty six times and Mores like, you know,

709
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see any of them. I really didn't see

710
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: any of them, like you. Jim Gray's like, no, no, no, Russell,

711
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: really really, Russell, how you know the forty six bag touches?

712
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: How do you know? And He's like, you know, I

713
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: can't call what I didn't see, Jim, Okay, you know

714
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was down on Mars and it's what's crazy,

715
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: And this happens to me a lot. Is I fully

716
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: came around on Abner Marris right before he got one

717
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: punched by Johnny Gonzalez right or knocked down and then

718
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: knocked out in the first round of their fight. So

719
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: that's always been a roller coaster, rocky relationship. But in

720
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: the beginning, I thought Abner Marris was a bit of

721
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: a wait bully. I thought he was a little bit dirty.

722
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: I thought he was a lot of things I've come

723
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: to know, and you know, I don't say this because

724
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: she's my s Showtime colleague. But I've always really liked

725
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: the guy. He's always been a great, honest interview. He's

726
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: a very good fighter, and I think, you know, his

727
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: legacy will be a name fighter, a multi division champion.

728
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: Maybe he lost the biggest steps when he did step

729
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: up the two big fights with the Os Santa Cruz,

730
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: the first one being a legitimate Fight of the Year contender,

731
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: the second one being you know, really sneaky and sleepy

732
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: as a damn good one. He always made big fights

733
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: and and sold out and went after it, but when

734
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: he needed to box, he could. That was the guy

735
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: that I really took me a while. Same thing with

736
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Timothy Bradley Junior, who just got elected into the Hall

737
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: of Fame and has been having this like back and

738
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: forth where Tank Davis quote tweeted the Hall of Fame announcement,

739
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: was like, man, Tim Bradley can't fight at all and

740
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: you know his shit, No he's not shit, But what

741
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: it took me? And Tim Bradley did respond to that

742
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: by the way through some podcast and was just like,

743
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't go on the internet,

744
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: so I didn't know about this, but you know, Tank,

745
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: why don't you try to beat everybody I beat in

746
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: my career and then we can talk, meaning, you know,

747
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: I beat Paciao, although disputed, I beat Marquez and Tim's best,

748
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: biggest winn he beat Provadenkoff and maybe the greatest action

749
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: fight a lot of us have ever seen. And you know,

750
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: Jermonte's still adding names on there. So separate from that debate.

751
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: Tim Bradley's a guy who got by more on will

752
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: than you know not. I don't want to say more

753
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: than skill, because he was a skilled boxer, but he

754
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: was a tweener without power. A tweener meaning not pure

755
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: enough to be a full time pure boxer and doesn't

756
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: hit hard enough to be a full time slugger, yet

757
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: is kind of both at the same time. And you

758
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: know that happened to Tom Shane. Moseley's a Hall of

759
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: famer who's kind of a tweener, never used his jab,

760
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: really big power puncher, but when he had the box

761
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: think of the first De la Jolla fight in the

762
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: year two thousand, one of my favorite fights of all time.

763
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: Boy did he make adjustments and show that. But Tim

764
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Bradley was a guy early on who I was just

765
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: like man, you know, I respect the hustle but he

766
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: can't fight, he can't punch, he can't whatever. And I

767
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: think we all turned on him a little when it

768
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault when he got the decision into Pacio

769
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: in their first fight in twenty twelve, you know, disputed

770
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: to say the least, but the man that he showed

771
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: himself to be, and beating Pravadnikoff and going life or death,

772
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: and then coming back a couple months later and beating

773
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: Marquez on pay per view when Marquees was pomper pound

774
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: rank coming off the not one punch knock gotta pack you.

775
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy stepped up, shown the IQ, the

776
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: boxing skills, the adaptability. The guy's an all time great.

777
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: So I was so happy to see a guy like

778
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: him who I was wondering if he might be borderlining

779
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: getting in got in. I mean that the names the

780
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: multi division champion Rain, I mean Tim Bradley, fantastic, keep

781
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: it rolling here. I'm really trying hard enough to linger,

782
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: and you know I'm a lingerer. A lingerer not so

783
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: much in your private space. My anxiety sometimes leads me

784
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: to believe I should exit conversation surprisingly earlier than later,

785
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: so I don't wear on my welcome. I know I

786
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: talk fast and abundantly, but I'm trying to keep this

787
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: shit moving for your benefit out there, because look I

788
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: am you meaning when I'm not working, I got the

789
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: headphones in at the supermarket, listening to podcasts I love

790
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you know, let's keep the shit rolling.

791
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: Let's go over to music here. You know, b seasoned, big,

792
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: big fan of really good music, whether you agree or not.

793
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: From Matt r who taps first, Luke listening to Mahavishnu

794
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: uh Love Supreme or BC listening to any Cannibal Corpse album.

795
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: So the Love Supreme record that he's referencing, I got

796
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: it right over here is uh. It's a co album

797
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: between Carlos Santana and John McLaughlin of the Mahavish New

798
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: Orchestra and I Love Supreme is you know, a cover

799
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: of the great Coltrane song and they put their own

800
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: spin on it, and it's that perfect marriage between rock

801
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: from Santana but more Latin influenced rock with a constant

802
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: teaz of jazz and the full on jazz fusion experimental

803
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: side of McLaughlin. It's a gorgeous, amazing album. But the

804
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: famous joke is when Luke got in my Orange subrew

805
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: cross track aka the Indigo Girl Mobile, the the Lilith

806
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: Fest Tour Guide. Uh, you know, I had Mahavish New

807
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Orchestra and it was more one of the more extreme

808
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: violin based tracks. John Hammer's out on keyboards, weird sounds

809
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: coming out, Billy Cobbham just hammered shit out on drums

810
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: looks like the you know, what the fuck is this

811
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: absolute bullshit. But on the flip side, there's very rare

812
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: music that I'm just like, get that away from me.

813
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: It's not that I don't think there's nothing, you know, like,

814
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: could I find a redeeming value in there? For really

815
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: wanted to? Yes, But that that barrier, that wall that

816
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: I have to get over metal death metal, gross metal

817
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: with people screaming, angry, largely unintelligible words, tends to fit

818
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: that description. I can definitely understand the raf Bugs sliding

819
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: in here. Of course, Raef Bug's taking Lake Thomas to

820
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: the whole you better believe. Of course I'll take him

821
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: to Billy Ho. We'll get to you know, you can

822
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: be Bernard King in here. We're getting two and we

823
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 1: out of here. But as much as Luke was all

824
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: over me for that if forced to listen, I do believe,

825
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: because John McLaughlin's one of the most incredible, experimental, true

826
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 1: to his own self and style players. I do believe,

827
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: especially so Carl Santana when they're trading licks on a

828
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: Love Supreme. Where has this record? I do believe Luke

829
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: could hear Jimmy, he could figure it out. He could go,

830
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: you know what, that's redeemable. But BC here in George Cannibal,

831
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: George Corpse Grinder, I'm sure does great charity outside the

832
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: outside the ring of the cage, the stage. That's great,

833
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: but you know, things about peeing blood in the meantime,

834
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna actually tap earlier on there because

835
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: it's not that there's no musicianship there or originality or whatever.

836
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just that Wall is so aggressive

837
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: to get over that. You know what you got that

838
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: George Cannibal Corpse can fuck off. I'm sorry, that's just

839
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: what it is, you know what I mean? If tied

840
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: down to a chair, I think we can get Luke

841
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: around on a lot of good music. I really do

842
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: think we could. Okay, I do. Let's keep this the

843
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: show rolling, just the same. Let's go back into MMA

844
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: for a second. From the TAZ ninety six. Hey, BC,

845
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: the Rock is making a film about Mark Kerr the

846
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: Smashing Machines life. Can you think of any other MMA

847
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: biopicks that should be made and the actor that should

848
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 1: play said MMA figure. I think we've debated a question

849
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: like this in the past on like a DM from Donk.

850
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: But the idea here is somebody that's had such a

851
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: compelling life in and out of the ring that a

852
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: movie would make it. So Mark Kerr, Yes, although we

853
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: did all see that great documentary that that you know,

854
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: really filled in what his crazy life was, you know,

855
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: going to different MMA tournaments post wrestling and being so

856
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: outwardly and actively on the juice and live in such

857
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: a crazy lifestyle that produced you know, rough mental health

858
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: days and all that. Yeah, I don't you know. I mean,

859
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: Marker is one of the most compelling figures in this

860
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: sports history in that regard. I'm all in on on

861
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: the Rock biopick, but yeah, it's got to be people

862
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: like that. John Jones is creating right now one of

863
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: the most craziest in and outside the cage walks of

864
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: an elite athlete. We've never we've ever seen, I mean,

865
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: point blank this point that I've been making in columns

866
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: or you know, from multiple places for a while. And

867
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Speaker 1: Daniel White's kind of been saying it too without saying

868
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: it is. John Jones still to this day is equally

869
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: the greatest fighter that ever stepped foot in the sport

870
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: and competed, and the biggest like story of what if

871
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And at the same time,

872
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: you know what it's like, here's the church, here's the

873
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: steeple open you know, you know that bit right, open

874
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Speaker 1: it up and see all the people. And who's gonna

875
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: play him? I don't know. I mean it is Michael

876
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Ji White get a little older here, Michael P. Jordan

877
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: probably could play anybody at this point. I mean, dude,

878
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Creed three. Do you see those the commercials in the

879
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: theater duck? I can't wait. I can't wait to get

880
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, and the Imax with the three D

881
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: glasses on it and the A row believe that, brother,

882
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: Mikey Mormel, you're right sliding in here with Francis and Ghano.

883
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: You mentioned Glover to share as well, Mikey, would be

884
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: great stories in terms of their Journey of the US.

885
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: So I'd say Francis and Ghan, who probably even above

886
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: John Jones, has the most made for you know, TV

887
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: or movie perfect crossover life story of just like Damn.

888
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: But let's not forget Ian Heinish, who went to a

889
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: European or African prison wherever it was there in the

890
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: Mediterranean era of the crime life he lived before. I mean,

891
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: certainly I said, Johndred you gotta you gotta stand by

892
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: John Johnson that I mean, GSP is such a compelling

893
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: personal figure, but sort of lacks that crazy controversy outside.

894
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if Roda Rousey gets that treatment eventually, because

895
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: that is one of the mythical careers. Brock Lastner, Oh well, God,

896
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: brock Lesner biopic Okay in Ghana one. Brock Lessner two,

897
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: John Johns three. There's your answer. Let's not Malinger anymore.

898
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: Is this Eric Raskins sliding in live right here? There's

899
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: my old all my friends come out to play here.

900
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: This is great. Notice Raskin would never join this chat

901
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: live after eight pm Eastern because he already be in

902
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: sleep at that point. We know about that. What's the

903
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: statue of limitations? Rask acts I'm being pissed off about

904
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg playing Mickey Ward without red hair. By the way,

905
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: shout out to our faith Ginger Ray reminding me about

906
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: this live chat. Yeah, I get your point. And Mickey

907
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Ward is Eric Askin's favorite boxer of all time and

908
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: should be if you're a longtime box fan, one of

909
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: your favorites. And shout out to Rask, one half of

910
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: the Showtime Boxing podcast rasking In mulvaney. And really, I

911
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: said this before I stayed again, Rask my idol coming

912
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: into this game. But I wanted to beat my whole

913
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: career or I wanted to be like Eric Resk. I

914
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: really mean that, not the small genitalior or low libido,

915
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: but more more just the man. That guy can That

916
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: guy's you know, he's profound. He's profound right there. I

917
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: have no problem with Mark Wahlberg playing No, I didn't

918
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: like Love the Fighter, but the you know, there's some

919
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: strong acting performances there. Amy Adams incredible. Uh oh, who

920
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: played Dicky Eglund, the dude from you you know the

921
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Christian Bale was was all in and tremendous on there.

922
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: You know. The hair difference is my biggest problem with

923
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: the fighter was that they considered that Shane Neery fight,

924
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: which really is one of Mickey Ward's best gritty wins

925
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: on the road in Europe, for that WBU title or

926
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: whatever that sort of fifth unrecognized belt is. You know,

927
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: they treated that as the Coleman Nation of his career

928
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: and get better idols, good lord, and really that was

929
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was a big win. It was a

930
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: secondary sort of you know, regionalish title, but no mention,

931
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: you know, nothing on the Gotti fights which really define him,

932
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: especially that first one. I mean, come on, really, so

933
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: that's really my issue with those statute of limitations, Rask.

934
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: But thanks for joining just the same. Back to the

935
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: world of MMA right here from Lord dash Khan lor con.

936
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: Has mma officially become more popular than boxing? If not,

937
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: do you expect it to? And when Yeah, on a whole,

938
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: this is nothing new. They don't have to go back

939
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: to the u Joe Rogan and Lou Dubella famed Sports

940
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Center debate about whether mayor boxing is better from about

941
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago that you know, holds up hilariously to

942
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: this day. On the whole, Like you know, people always

943
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: ask me the same time, you're you're a boxing guy BC,

944
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: So you know, I'll always tell you that when the

945
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: two sports are at their best, and I think even

946
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: John Annak will still tell you that used to be

947
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: his his We used to share this sentiment together that

948
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: you know, when there's two sports are that at their

949
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: apex and the best, the best fight you could possibly get,

950
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: Boxing is the better, even more popular. Meaning you know,

951
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: when Mayweather comes out a few years ago for the

952
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: biggest fights possible, it's gonna sell more, gonna bring across

953
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: more casual fans than the MMA. But the day to day,

954
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: week to week, not only is the MMA a better,

955
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: more rewarding product across the board, led by the UFC,

956
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: who are just incredible at promotion and matchmaking and all that.

957
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: The secondary leagues are also you know, growing and worth

958
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: your time. But it's definitely that consistency and I think overall,

959
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: with with from the Fox Steel now to the ESPN deal,

960
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: UFC has has gone beyond mainstream. I mean, you know,

961
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: extreme mainstream in so many ways. You know, a big

962
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: four sport, I don't know, I mean, is it bigger

963
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: than NASCAR and NHL? You know, maybe it is, Maybe

964
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: it is too. I even't thought about that or updated

965
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: that in my mind in a while. But you know,

966
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: MMA is more popular on a consistent basis, and I

967
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: think regularly across the board, but big event because the

968
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: history and the royalty of boxing, and you know, there's

969
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: so many X or closet or angry boxing fans out

970
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: there who want to become great fans again. They just

971
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with the bullshit, but love when

972
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: they get lured in every five years to a big fight.

973
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: There's still more of them than probably we'll ever watch

974
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: them in May. I mean that's a bold statement. R.

975
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: They could probably actually prove me wrong, but I think

976
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: the sentiment might be true in the crossover sense. More

977
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: people will tell you probably that they love boxing and

978
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: they love to be a part of a big fight

979
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: building and get excited than we'll ever watch a non

980
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: Connor versus Habib MMA fight. With that consistency with MA

981
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: across the board mixed with ESPN and other in your

982
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: face constantly. Yeah, success, Congratulations, the UFC's they've done that.

983
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they've completely done that. Boxing is this last

984
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty years sort of linger and ups and downs,

985
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: ups and downs, and a good spot now in my opinion.

986
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Last couple years have been fantastic. But you know, I'm

987
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: so addicted at this point that even if it's twenty

988
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: twelve or twenty fourteen all over again, two of the

989
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: worst recent memory years in boxing, or if it's the

990
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: every other year thing like it was for the last

991
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: ten twelve years, I'm still gonna be here saying ridiculous

992
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: things into a microphone telling you that it's the best

993
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: sport ever because it is. Okay, there you go, Let's

994
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: keep this thing rolling, Let's get weird. Let's go down

995
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: to miscellaneous here in f around a little bit, all right,

996
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: from wake Up top three MK moments. Yeah, that's pretty

997
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: easy in my regard, because when I think MK moments,

998
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: I think monumental stuff that I instantly won't forget that

999
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: I instantly think of, like, you know, close my eyes

1000
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: and what is morning Combat. It's like three images first

1001
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: come up. Okay, One is that first live show we

1002
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: did summer of twenty twenty Connor Poorier three in the

1003
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: MGM Park MGM Sports Book there and we did the

1004
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: shoeies and we had a small crowd, but man, they're

1005
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: so p one MK level loving and crazy and rabbit.

1006
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: I love you guys for being there. And when we

1007
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: did that close and the sendoff and Luke did the

1008
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: Marines cheer and I had the shoe polish hair on, yes,

1009
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: and we just that wash in the fans going nuts.

1010
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: That was special. That felt really special. It was like

1011
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: our fans kissing and embracing us physically, mouth open, tongue ready.

1012
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I drink out of that guy's shoe with

1013
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: a hole in it. Hii is his name, Jamie himy whatever.

1014
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: I know we talked about in the past. But if

1015
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: that guy's still watching, please I love to have you

1016
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: mail that shoe and we put it on the shelf

1017
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: in the Jersey City shoot studio, which is the grossest,

1018
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: weirdest request ever. It's still fucking awesome because that was

1019
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: the number one moment in my opinion. Number two was

1020
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: winning the first last December MMA Programming World of Awards

1021
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: with the doc cameras there. You know, that was that

1022
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: was super special And to hear what made it really

1023
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: super special was the ovation. We've said this before, but

1024
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: the ovation we got in the rows behind us of

1025
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: the our media brethren, the Okamoto's Ray Mundy, you know,

1026
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: Mike Bone, Sean alshoty that those guys, those dudes, right

1027
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: j C, the pink suit guy, those guys, the love,

1028
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: that impure joy and love that they showed almost as

1029
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: if like, yeah, one of us got it. Thank you

1030
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: that you know that. That's to me that those guys

1031
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: coming up to us afterwards and just being like, I

1032
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: just want to let you guys know that, like you

1033
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: earn this and I'm and I'm and I wanted you

1034
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: to like I'm happy for you guys, like this is

1035
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air. That moment, to me, is

1036
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: the more better currency than any award, any amount of subscribers,

1037
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: any anything, you know what I mean, Because that that's

1038
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: that's your that's your contemporaries, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1039
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: The your Ryahall interview was awesome as well, the one

1040
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: with Luke by the Horse, but don't sleep on the

1041
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: one I did with him ahead of his last UFC

1042
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: fight where he was just like, ah, I know you guys,

1043
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was almost like I don't know

1044
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna do this interview, same thing all over again.

1045
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: Great stuff right there. The third one of the uh

1046
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: mks my favorite greatest moments. I got a feeling it's

1047
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna be what happened after tomorrow's announcement Wednesday, two pm

1048
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: Eastern special time for tomorrow's Morning Combat episode in our

1049
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 1: big announcement. I feel like that's gonna be number three.

1050
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: I really do, but uh, you know number three could be.

1051
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: Uh when I when I did that spit take last

1052
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: week in Bella tour, that was God. I tried hard

1053
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: to prevent that from happening, but it turned out pretty Goopparently,

1054
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: this Wahlah fight reaction from yesterday, it's people's favorite moment

1055
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: that ever happened on this show. No, I got it,

1056
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: the real third best moment MK history when Jake von

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Speaker 1: Amsterdam came into character that first time on set and

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00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: Luke was just be fuddled like and Jake just, I mean,

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00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: you want to talk about in the Jake knew about

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00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: five minutes before that I was going to force him

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00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, he just he had the

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00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: material ready. He just became Jake von Amsterdam. That was something,

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00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, Damn damn all right, let's keep this great

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00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: train moment Corey w By the way, see al Bundy

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00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: had his four touchdowns in one game. What's your crowning

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00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: athletic achievement. I mean, are you guys gonna be surprised

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00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: to hear that? Although I had the passion of a

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00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: great athlete, you know, I didn't have the work ethic

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00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: early on. I started playing sports kind of late, Like

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00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: I would say, you like basketballf my sport. I didn't

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00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: start playing til like sixth grade. People already had like

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00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: fundamentals and skills by that point. So I I was

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00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: that Brian Scalabrini equivalent for a long time at many levels.

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00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: But what have I done? Wise? I didn't make my

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00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: high school varsity team. So my son Chris shout out,

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00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 1: just made his the freshman basketball team at his high school.

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00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: And yeah it was one of those like you know

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: scol you know, like score one for the family lineage, right,

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00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: like you guys have to understand, Like in my factory

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00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: tone shout out to Naugatuck, Connecticut, like youth sports was everything,

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00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: Like our middle school basketball rec leagues had coaches wearing

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00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: like suits to the game and getting into screaming matches

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00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: with parents and referees and this tiny ass basement Jim

1084
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: at the YMCA and people throwing things in the crowd.

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00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean it was just like insanely intense, and you know,

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00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: the rivalry we have in my high school with Ansonia

1087
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: every Thanksgiving for one hundred and twenty two straight years

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00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell. It was like that my wife

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00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: and kids, like, why do you care about your alma

1090
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: mater playing some grimy town down the road. It's like

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00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: unless you live that, you know, you guys wherever you

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00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: come from probably have something that compares, or maybe just

1093
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: your local pro soccer fandom is the equivalent here. But like,

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00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, we just cared about that shit.

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00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean this, you hoo. Many times I heard that

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00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: my uncle Tony shout out caught the touchdown in two

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00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: point version in the nineteen seventy game against Antonia to

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00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: force a tie and win the league championship, and my

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00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: cousin Mark scoring one in garbage time in eighty eight

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Speaker 1: against Answer. I mean, like, this is a thing, right,

1101
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: it matters. You know, cousin Connor won an NBL title

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00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: the only time they beat uh An Sonia there in

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00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: like a fifteen year stretch. So my kid making the

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00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: freshman team, it was like, f you back to all

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00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: of my failed athletic atchie. You know what I mean, yeah,

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00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys can relate as a hovering parent.

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00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: I ran a mile in five fifty six. I'm pretty

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00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: part of that. When I was twenty seven years old,

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00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: the morning of my sister's wedding, when I got in

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00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: great shape that couple of years, I had a half

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00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: court shot in a wreck basketball game. All right, maybe

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00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: it was a deep three, but you know, beat the

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00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: buzzer at halftime. That was pretty cool, you know. I

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00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: mean I made a couple oh in the ESPN Basketball

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00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: League in the playoffs. Now there's an A League in

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00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: a B League. I think I've said this before. The

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00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: A League is like you know, D one walk Ons

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00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: and like X All Conference D two shooting guards. You know, like,

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00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, I play pick up with those guys, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm like Kurt Rambus or David Wood

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00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: or insert you know, Andrew de Clark in those leagues.

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00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: But in the B League, man, I can suddenly step

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00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: up and f around and you know, almost seriously get

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00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 1: a triple double. I had a twenty point, twenty rebound

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Speaker 1: game in in in a playoff win. And why that

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00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: matters is that I was on the bad news Bears

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00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: for about ten years of ESPN basketball teams. We always lost,

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Speaker 1: We always got hammered out, and most of the games

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Speaker 1: ended to be fair, with me getting into a fight

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00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: with the scorekeeper, almost physical, because you know, they had

1131
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 1: a mercy rule. If you could be beat by thirty

1132
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: or more in the instance in the second half, the

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00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: game's over. And you know, I got extreme competitiveness as

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00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: an issue. And you know some of those games when

1135
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: we play the really good teams and get smoked, you

1136
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: know we'd be fighting at the end to just not

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00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: lose by thirty so we can keep the game going.

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00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: And you know there was times that we would get

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00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: it down, you know, to twenty five in the safe zone,

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00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: but like the scorecaper be like, yeah, let's just run

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00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: off the last couple of minutes. This game's blowout, and

1142
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: i'd you know, get in his face, be like, no,

1143
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: we earn this time. We avoided getting mercy ruled and

1144
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: run off this court. There's something we can learn right here,

1145
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: and I'm sure my teammateated me for this. There's something

1146
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: we can learn right here that that we can use

1147
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: in the future, that we can build character from this. Plus,

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00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: this is your job to be here and do this.

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00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: This is my time right now on the court. I

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00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: don't care about that scorecard. You know. He got in

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00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: my face and was like, yo, bro, like it's wrong

1152
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: with you. You know, maybe you guys should work harder

1153
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: to not get Mercy World next time. And you know

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00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I was willing to throw down for the art right

1155
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: there to let you know that for sure, just so

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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: you know I really was, and I had to be

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00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: held back. But you know, I have the attitude and

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00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: competitiveness of an elite athlete. I don't think I was

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00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: gifted with the body, and I certainly didn't have the

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00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: work ethic back then. But yeah, if I could do

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00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: it all over, I'd shoot about five hundred three pointers

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00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: every single day and I'd probably be nice out there.

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00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: But instead I got to be that sweaty up and

1164
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: underpower forward. All right, enough of this bullshit. Let's keep

1165
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: the show rolling here. Let's go back to we got

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00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: food as a category here, all right, let's go This

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00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: is from Wow Wow Wow Wow, Hey BC, what was

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: the most disturbing combination of fast food that you came

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00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: up with while being under the influence. I think this

1170
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: would have happened in two thousand and two I saw

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00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan at the Bryce Jordan Center on the campus

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: of Penn State. I was random, right, Uh, Nick, you

1173
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: were there, you're watching from that. You were there at

1174
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: that concert, by the way, and you know on the

1175
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: way home, I hit the sheets, you know what I mean.

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00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't mean I took a dump in the bed.

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: And you know I didn't do like some like r

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00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: Kelly Cleveland Steamer, you know, hybrid acrossover project. But I

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00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: will tell you that I I uh, you know, you

1180
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: go to Sheets when you're like just blasted, and it's

1181
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: like wow, it's like anything else, right, but it's extreme.

1182
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: Sheets is fantastic. And you go up to the computer

1183
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: and you're like okay, you know, and you're in your

1184
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: in your good intentions. You're like, okay, I'm gonna get

1185
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: a meatball grinder or I'm going to get a turkey

1186
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: and sham or whatever, you know. But then they're like,

1187
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: do you want to add you know, three kinds of cheese?

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00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: You're like, fucking hey, right right, And then they're like, oh, hey,

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00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: you want to get funky? Do you want to add

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00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: an avocado? And they're like, you know, I didn't consider

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00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: that coming in but you know, I'm actually willing to

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00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: do this, and I'm like, okay, how about hot meatballs

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00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: on top? Okay, let's get a little extreme. But your

1194
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: boy has had a good night out there, okay, So

1195
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: so you know it's all Bob out there playing the hits. Okay, yeah,

1196
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: let's do this. And then suddenly you're getting you know,

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00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: scrambled eggs dropped on top. So I think a couple

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Speaker 1: of times I've had that, but particularly that night, I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget. It was just a it was a you know,

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: it was like every gross comfort food that could eventually

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00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: hurt your liver, which you know, I want to say

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00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm a liver survivor, but I guess I'm still fighting

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00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: and dying the right in front of your eyes, all

1204
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: in the same grinder role. That's about as weird and

1205
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: gross as it gets. But you know, it's like when

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: I go back and change any part of this journey

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00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: and tone down some of the ridiculousness, no, because that's

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00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: how it got here. That's who I am, that's the conclude,

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00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: that's the you know, the final equation plus this plus

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00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: that to make me who I am today. So you know,

1211
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to break some eggs to get to

1212
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: the to have success, and you know, apparently my liver

1213
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: is the one that had to suffer all these years.

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00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: Let's go over back to m M A. I love

1215
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: this question and I never have the right answer from

1216
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: Kimbo Rampage. It's real and you know original name there.

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00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: If you had to pick the UFC's next president to

1218
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: replace Dana, who would it be. Here's where it's really hard, right,

1219
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Dana might be among the best ever I've ever done

1220
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: this gig fight promotion. Yeah, he's among the best ever.

1221
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, like, you know, what, what else can

1222
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: you say? And I know that, you know, anytime someone

1223
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: gets in a war of wards with Dana, and I

1224
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: do that sometimes in weird ways too, but they want

1225
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, hey, Cardio kickboxing instructor. If

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00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the Fertidos, you know, yeah, yeah, for

1227
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: the larger for the money part of it and the

1228
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: larger financial decision making. Yeah, the Fertidas were you know,

1229
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: none of us are here without them, right, But Dana

1230
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: also is pretty smart dude, business wise along the way,

1231
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: shrewd right and decision making and incredible at hyping, and

1232
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to hype as much anymore. It seems

1233
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: like now he's just more like putting out fires or

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: being in you know, sort of steady wars with different

1235
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: fighters or entities. But you know, the the Dana from

1236
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, two thousand and eight, twenty thirteen,

1237
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the data like that promoter is

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01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: as good or you know, or better than Bob Aaron,

1239
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: Don King, Vince McMahon, you know P. T. Barnum, Right,

1240
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, like so replacing that it's not just so

1241
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: whenever someone says who should replace it, it's like I

1242
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: always just go Chill sonn right, and it's like, yeah,

1243
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: you want that personality. Chail would be amazing just from

1244
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: the public facing personality of like lying with a smile

1245
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: and you know, controlling the narrative. But do you also

1246
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: have that other side of it, which is that intelligence

1247
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: and that shrewdness and decision making and and you know

1248
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: Maverick in bullish ways like DC. I think just from

1249
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: like a guy you'd love to trust who can represent

1250
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: the brand without being too Chandler esque. If you get

1251
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: my drift there would also be good. But you know

1252
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: you'd have to first of all, you'd have to pair them,

1253
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: you know how, Like a lot of Lorenzo's success was

1254
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: like the other half of his brain, his brother Frank,

1255
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: who did the numbers. You're gonna need a numbers guy

1256
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be on camera, that's going to be,

1257
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes. It's like that's the one

1258
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: thing Al Hayman and the PBC so successful, right, But

1259
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: I always wished Hayman had a public facing guy his

1260
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: own Daana way. You know a lot of people thought

1261
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: it could have been Leudabella would have been perfect. I

1262
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: do think you need that person that represents you, that

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Speaker 1: can talk to the media in that regard, but you

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01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: know else gonna l in this regard. But you know,

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01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: to replace Dana, you need to be a lot you know,

1266
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: and you need to have somebody behind the scenes that

1267
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: can be the silent business guy, but you need to

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: be that public face and have that. And I don't

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01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: know if if you know, everybody's wired that way, you know,

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01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: or if it's just natural, like oh, funny fighter, he'll

1271
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: just slide in. But I do wonder if that successor

1272
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: can be somebody famous or it's just got to be

1273
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: somebody from the business side who may also have a

1274
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: personality and that would help, but can just kind of

1275
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: step up and say this is the direction we're going.

1276
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: All I know is if it's not somebody that's a

1277
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: charismatic face, I wonder what that does immediately to the

1278
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: brand's power in any way, because you know, one thing

1279
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: about Dana is even though a lot of what he

1280
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: says is and doesn't feel like it's true in the

1281
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: moment or whatever, you can prove it wrong or whatever,

1282
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: he's vindictive and all that stuff is like there is

1283
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: an integrity part of that that he carries large, Like

1284
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: I never doubt that he can't get something done. I mean,

1285
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: look at what he did in the pandemic. You know,

1286
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: in the Tauchi Palace. Stuff was obvious, you know, sort

1287
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: of aggressive misstep. And you know, you can always argue

1288
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: that that seven hundred and fifty million that ESPN oed

1289
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: them if UFC could make their their amount of you know,

1290
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: required dates, was was the true motivation. But either way,

1291
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: he makes stuff happen, and when he's in front, there's

1292
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: it's almost like before Vince McMann got removed from WW

1293
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: and whoever thought that would happen? Right short to death.

1294
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: There was always you know, he would have like a

1295
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: slip or fall a couple of years back in the

1296
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: gym and hurt himself and the company would have to

1297
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: put out a you know, a press release saying he's okay,

1298
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: just so stock prices wouldn't dip. Like from that regard

1299
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: whatever follows, Dana has you know, monster shoes to fils.

1300
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: So I think, damn, they need to be charismatic in believable,

1301
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: and you know, if not, I mean, Dam's not really trustworthy.

1302
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,919
Speaker 1: But you believe that he's going to get the job done.

1303
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: And when he says he's going to do something, and

1304
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: when in the standpoint of like you know, getting into

1305
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: new countries and doing new things, I believe it's gonna happen.

1306
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean the Slaptic League, separate thing, ZUFA boxing, separate

1307
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: thing in his own lane. Yeah, I believe everything he

1308
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: says in terms of their business moving forward and in

1309
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: his large goals. The guy does have vision and he

1310
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: does have balls, and there's a lot of those things

1311
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: that when he does one day retire and we're sort

1312
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: of putting together his legacy slash you know, career U Lugi,

1313
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: Like what did he all stand for what did it

1314
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,959
Speaker 1: mean we're going to say a lot more nice things

1315
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: than we will. Oh yeah, by the way, he also

1316
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: was a promoter car salesman guy too. Yeah, I mean,

1317
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: yeah he is. You know he also you know it

1318
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: doesn't always take the truth straight on. Yeah, it's pretty

1319
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: damn awesome though at what he does just the same.

1320
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: And that's not me kissing his ass, because you know,

1321
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: I show up in some of those videos sometimes, But

1322
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: it's just respect of a guy who comes from boxing,

1323
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: which is broken and splintered, and here's a guy who

1324
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: figured out how to keep it all under one tent

1325
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: and they're still there fight or pay issues or not.

1326
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: Back to boxing here, let's go from Patrick b C.

1327
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Great question, how do you see a fight between Tank

1328
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: and Garcia? That's Ryan Garcia going and the fact that

1329
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: these two are supposedly fighting, which is you know, remember

1330
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: were targeted for April fifteenth, I think is the hopefull

1331
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: date if they both win their January tune ups, Patrick says,

1332
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: how do you think that affects Tayofi Malopez, Shaker Stevenson

1333
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: and Devin Haney's next step in their fighting careers? Immediately?

1334
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it affects them. But I do think

1335
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: the whole idea of like this fight doesn't get made

1336
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: if Ryan Garcia doesn't continue to push on Golden Boy

1337
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: in his own and say, look, I know you want

1338
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: this to be a two network like Real pay per

1339
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: view the old traditional way. It seemed like Steven Espinos

1340
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: in Showtime the whole time, where like we don't really

1341
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: see what Zone brings to the table. Ryan can technically

1342
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: do this fight if he wants to. I've heard Steven

1343
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: say that publicly, and then it turned out that way.

1344
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: You know, Zone's getting a certain level of control on

1345
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: the rights factor, but they're also playing Showtimes pay per

1346
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: view on their streaming site. So this doesn't happen unless

1347
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia pushes through. So what's the spinoff effect business

1348
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: wise for the four Princes or the five Princes as

1349
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: we can now call them, these you know, these group

1350
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: of lightweightish guys who just look like stars in the future.

1351
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: Is is this going to make it more likely that

1352
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: they could potentially fight each other? Yeah? I think it

1353
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: will because I've always said we did loof live through

1354
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: the Mayweather Pakia era, which did produce a lot of

1355
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: Floyd followers and the standpoint of like Floyd was so

1356
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: on top of his business. I think we saw a

1357
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: lot of business boxers come out of that era where

1358
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: like people were like trying to selectively do what Floyd did.

1359
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: But you can't really do what Floyd did because nobody's

1360
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: as great a fighter and as great of a marketer

1361
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: as Floyd did put together. But you know, safe more safety,

1362
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: let's stay in our own promotional lane and not try

1363
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: to do it. But you know, trends are cyclical and happen.

1364
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: We all want people to go back to where fighters

1365
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: were in the eighties and early nineties, where it was

1366
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: more about glory and success, you know what you succeed,

1367
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: and then necessarily the money side of it. But there's

1368
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: also a down part in that is if you look

1369
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: at all those guys nowadays, as forty to fifty and

1370
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: sixty year old guys, you physically, you know, see and

1371
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: hear the damage they took on to try to be

1372
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: great and was that always the best choice in their

1373
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: long term career. So while it's cyclical though, so it

1374
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have to come back and be as reckless as that,

1375
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: but it can come back to a new generation all

1376
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: kind of join in arms without doing it publicly and

1377
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: saying we want to be a little bit different and

1378
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: we don't want to end our career without having proven

1379
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: by facing everybody in our time that we are truly

1380
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: the best. I don't think all these guys are like

1381
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent all locked in on that, but I

1382
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: think the spirit of it is starting to permeate, and

1383
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: I do think Tenk versus Ryan Garcia opens up those

1384
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: doors to start to believe because we just saw now

1385
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: a superstar in Ryan Garcia push back against the powers

1386
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: that it sometimes feels like he's working for, but the

1387
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: reality is they're working for him. So you know, business wise, no,

1388
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: it's not going to always be easy to take a

1389
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: guy who has a deal with just one network and

1390
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: try to make these things happen if both networks aren't

1391
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: willing to share on a fifty to fifty level. Sometimes

1392
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: they do when the fight's just big enough, and we

1393
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: got to that point it made sense. Other times fights

1394
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: don't happen because of that. But this is a great trend,

1395
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: and I hope this new generation wants the smoke like

1396
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: they seem to sing to do. I mean, Devin Haney

1397
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: made a pretty awesome power move when his deziwn and

1398
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: Eddie Herndal was up to go to ESPN. Yeah, he

1399
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 1: had a fight cambosis twice and go on the road twice.

1400
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: But look at where he's at now. So Lopez more

1401
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: likely to go the one forty title route. Shakur has

1402
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: got it first, establish h himself at thirty five, and

1403
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: Hany to his credit. I think it's gonna be looking

1404
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: for the biggest name he can. Certainly wants a Lomachenko

1405
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: more than anything. So those guys gonna be tied up

1406
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: for a bit, but come back around a year from now.

1407
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean I like Roly Romero in this mix too,

1408
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: not that he's on the same level of these guys,

1409
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: but sometimes you need sort of that perfect villain b

1410
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: side to face them to continue to make these big

1411
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: fights happen. Patrick also said, how do you see the

1412
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: fight going? I mean, as we get close and as

1413
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: we watch their tune up fights, we're obviously gonna that

1414
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: narrative is gonna change and flow and grow. But right

1415
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: now I like Tank better, of course, because he's he's

1416
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: a better fighter overall, and I think his power is

1417
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 1: better because he's got better accuracy and set up and control.

1418
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 1: But you cannot overlook two factors the length and reach,

1419
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: the heightened reach difference which is a lot, and the

1420
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: fact that Ryan Garcia, until somebody does get him, he's

1421
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: gonna go out there as a gun slinger, even if

1422
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 1: his chin's and always in the perfect placement and just

1423
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: let his shit go that he could catch it. I mean,

1424
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: he can catch anybody. He's that quick. And you know,

1425
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: speed equals power in this game. So that's why you

1426
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: have to love that fight so much. That the risk

1427
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: both are taking, the fact that they're doing it in

1428
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: their you know, mid twenties rather than at thirty three,

1429
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty five, and the fact that either

1430
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: guy can win at any time. Also it helps they're

1431
01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: bringing into massive young fan bases that don't seem to

1432
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, crossover, that are separate from each other. God,

1433
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: I love that fight in so many ways. I also

1434
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: love that as much as we can look at what

1435
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: they've accomplished in who they are poun for pound wise

1436
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: and go, okay, take definitely the better fighter. But you know,

1437
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: right Ray guys, and people hate what I say, Ray Guy,

1438
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 1: but that's cool too. You know, Ray Guy is is

1439
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: a I mean, is he the last of the American gauchos.

1440
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 1: I like to believe myself. And you know Martine Bader

1441
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: from Showtime with PBC are But yeah, yo, he's a

1442
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: he's a gun slinger, ray guy. You know, he's a

1443
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: pretty boy one. But he's gonna go out there and

1444
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: when he loses, it's going to be spectacularly. He's going

1445
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 1: to stand in that pocket and try to win that fight. Damn,

1446
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: does your boy BC respect that? All Right, we're near

1447
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: in the end here. I could go on forever. Damn'm

1448
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: having a good time with you guys, but trying to

1449
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: mix it up and get around the best I can here.

1450
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 1: Let me see what else here we got going on?

1451
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Just's go back to MMA Richie Es.

1452
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: He says, if you could have a Grand Prix type

1453
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: tournament in any weight class, what would you choose? I

1454
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: think right now, without question, I'd choose light heavyweight because

1455
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: of the fact that like Perhotska might be the best

1456
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: light heavyweight might be. But yet we're not gonna see

1457
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: him for a while, and will he ever be the same?

1458
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: And I thought and Caliev was, and I thought he

1459
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: actually won that fight, but he also didn't kick the

1460
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: damn TV screen in and he now loses the chance

1461
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: to fight for the title because of it. The parody

1462
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 1: is crazy post John Jones, and you know, respect Gyon

1463
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 1: Blohovitch for the performance over the weekend plus being the

1464
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: only guy to you know, defend the title during this

1465
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: post John Jones era. But yeah, right now, God, that

1466
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: would be awesome to see that. That's when I'd want

1467
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 1: to see somebody like Jamal Hill get the chance to

1468
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: prove it to us right there rather than necessarily the

1469
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: way the UFC are doing it now. But still, Glover

1470
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: versus Jamal Hill is a badass matchup, so I can't wait.

1471
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: Separate from that, they're so deep at bandon White the UFC. God,

1472
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: would I love to see a tournament there. I also

1473
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: want to say women's strawway, and it's like you don't

1474
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: need it. Like there's there's that group of four or five,

1475
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, ones that have been here from the beginning,

1476
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: and they're all starting. You want is gone, but you

1477
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 1: got you got Rose and Whaley and Andrage and all that.

1478
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just they're all gonna fight each other

1479
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 1: in and out, and all the fights are great anyway,

1480
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: but just for the pomp and circumstance of it, for

1481
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: for women's strow it, which would be the only UFC

1482
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: division you can really populate that. But you know, I

1483
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: don't think UFC is gonna do that grand prex thing.

1484
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: I think Luke is right in that regard that they

1485
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: sort of look at that as things we used to do,

1486
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: things our competitors do. Now all we do is make

1487
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: big time money and uh, you know, take a lot

1488
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: of money. Uh, make big money, make big events, all

1489
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: that stuff. Keeping it going. Here, let's head on down

1490
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 1: the line back to music. Let's do this. Max m

1491
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: says BC. If you're a fighter, what would be your

1492
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: walkout song? I've answered that many times. I do. I

1493
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: think right now I'm settling on and even this may

1494
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: not pop you, but that's fine because I need something

1495
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: aggressive rock and roll riff. And I mean, is there

1496
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 1: a better opening rift than mean Streets by Van Halen.

1497
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gonna you know, it kicks the

1498
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: doors in, right, And That's exactly what I'm looking for, Okay,

1499
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: I want to kick those doors and myself fired up

1500
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 1: to distract from the fact that I would be shitting

1501
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: my pants on that walk out there, even if I

1502
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: was a successful, trained professional. That's why I love when

1503
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: people are real, meaning like Rashad Evans straight up telling

1504
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 1: you be straw and real in front of you and say, yeah, dude,

1505
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: I almost threw up or was nervous or questioning why

1506
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing this before every big fight. It's human, it's natural.

1507
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: And while I do respect that some people have the

1508
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: ability to sort of just block that without necessarily being

1509
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: a sociopath or delay that or or just kind of

1510
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: hide it from themselves, the reality is, man, you know,

1511
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: we are humans. And when even if you feel like

1512
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: it's in your DNA dana to be a fighter, you

1513
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: know I would need something that would remind me to

1514
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 1: distract me from the reminder that I'm about to ship

1515
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: my pants, So that would be that. Also, you know,

1516
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 1: hopefully I didn't need a gas station on the way

1517
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: there and they shit the pants would be inevitable. Let's

1518
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: go back to food here. This is JP. I think

1519
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: it could be Nova Scotia's own Ja Piquet, who says

1520
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 1: family gone for the weekend and BC is home alone.

1521
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: What is your go to No holds barred cheat meal

1522
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: and snacks please? And a beverage of your choice pre

1523
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: black liver of course, JP, I would probably like I said,

1524
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: so technically my doctor said, although he just retired and

1525
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: I gotta get a new one that he's okay if

1526
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: I have, you know, a cheap meal, one meal a week,

1527
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 1: I mean, and go back to beef, pork, fast food whatever.

1528
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: I try to limit it. I let my guard down

1529
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: at the wedding on Saturday because the oh my god,

1530
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: the uh what do you call that? That beef that's

1531
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: just so tender, Oh my god, and mixed with the

1532
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: mash potatoes. I mean, I ate three plates of it.

1533
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: It was incredible. But if the family's going away, you

1534
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: better believe I'm cashing this this get out of jail

1535
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: free card here or ruin your liver more card. In

1536
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: my area, there's good pizza because I'm in Connecticut, so

1537
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: there's great pizza. Actually, there's great pizza even in like

1538
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: Mom and Papa on the corner that you never heard

1539
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: of before. It's pretty great. Across the board. There's also

1540
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: some people that are trying to be great that are

1541
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: super great. But BC comes from a factory town, and

1542
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: in my factory town. Even though Portinoy and Company gave

1543
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 1: them a shitty rating. But to be fair, we're now

1544
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: generation's in and it's like the kids are cooking. Do

1545
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 1: they have the same fervor as the drunk old men

1546
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: who used to make the perfect pizza pie at my

1547
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: nougative Connecticut hometown Mike's Pizza Palace. Maybe not, but in

1548
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: its prime, when I would eat the like, well, you know, BC,

1549
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 1: what went wrong with your body and your liver? Must

1550
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 1: pizza Palace largely went wrong. You know, it worked in

1551
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: tandem with the gas stations over the years. But this

1552
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: is pizza made by aggressively drunk grenk men who just

1553
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: put that Greek style? What is Greek style pizza? You

1554
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: may ask? Extra everything, the most sweetest candy tasting crust

1555
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: that's soaked in grease that you ever had, you know,

1556
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: cheese that's just flying off. Like this pizza is so

1557
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: good that you know when a proper lady goes to

1558
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: eat one and she's like, oh crap, she needs like

1559
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: an armful of paper towels to mop down the grease, Okay,

1560
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: and I don't mean it's gross, and like if I

1561
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: held it up, the grease would just siphon out because

1562
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,440
Speaker 1: like you know, the abundance of grease is not necessarily

1563
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: what makes it. That's just extreme, right, Like Lucas, it's

1564
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: just more Budweiser. It's not a forty ounce. But in

1565
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: this regard, when the grease tastes like sex, like it

1566
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: tastes like candy, now, you know, like you can do

1567
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: some Damn that's sauce too old. I mean, it's just perfect.

1568
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: We don't have much of that style where I live,

1569
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: only forty minutes away from where I grew up in

1570
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 1: the nice town. Nowadays, the nice town thinks that, you know,

1571
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,520
Speaker 1: they can make New Haven stealth then crust with you know, trendiness,

1572
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: and it's cool and it's good. But there's a place

1573
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 1: Abc Pizza around here that does it that old world

1574
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm about to kill you style. So my cheat meal

1575
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: is I'm gonna get a I'm gonna get meat ball

1576
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: pizza from there. And you know, you know what's my

1577
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: favorite part of my favorite toping, grease. And if Greece

1578
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: isn't your favorite topping, then you know you don't eat

1579
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: pizza on a crack addiction level like I have, you

1580
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's really the bottom line at

1581
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, are you willing

1582
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: to put it all on the line consistently? You know,

1583
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm the Donald Cerroni or Chris Liban of pizza eating,

1584
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, of Greek pizza eating, and it just man,

1585
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if you said, BC, you have

1586
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: to be celibate your entire life, No, BC, you don't know.

1587
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't have to do this most of

1588
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: your teen years. You just did that because you couldn't game.

1589
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: But no, let's say you had to be celibate your

1590
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: whole life, but you could eat this pizza until it

1591
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 1: killed you. Look, you know, I mean, I mean I

1592
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: treasure all my conquests, but you know, damn right, damn,

1593
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: oh my god. All right, So that and you know,

1594
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: the snacks would definitely be a bag of smart food

1595
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 1: because you know, when I'm at my fattest, I'm trying

1596
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: to take down the biggest smart food bag they have

1597
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: in one sitting. You know, I mean, that's great. What's

1598
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: what am I drinking? I don't know, black cherry soda

1599
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: that that's illegal of me. That's probably gonna be the

1600
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: best sauce to chase that with. In that regard, all right,

1601
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: they're trying to get me to wrap here, but uh,

1602
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: I got a couple more for you. Let's go back

1603
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: to this music here. Michael em says, BC, I love

1604
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: your tasting. He said, thank you, brother. That means you

1605
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: got good taste, right. I share a strong connection with

1606
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: the Grateful Dead and any bands past and present who

1607
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 1: have their origins in the space of artistry. Wow. I

1608
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: believe he's saying artistry in like a jam sense, but

1609
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: it also might be in a merging of genres, which

1610
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: really with the Dead and the Allmen Brothers Marshall Tucker

1611
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: Band looks that they did so perfectly is merge all

1612
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: those crazy genres together? He says, have you ever had

1613
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: a spiritual awakening while experiencing any of this style of

1614
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: music live where it shifted your perspective for all your

1615
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: days to come? So, if so, give a most memorable example.

1616
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 1: That's a great question. And I've had so many, you know,

1617
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: transforming concert moments. You know, sometimes it's just one note,

1618
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: or it's one cover song or one you know encore

1619
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: that you didn't expect, or you know they jammed one

1620
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: song into another, or you know, all those moments have

1621
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: been you know, life changing. But I think his specific

1622
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: question is about a style of music I may not

1623
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: have loved or realized I loved. That's interesting because that

1624
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 1: would mean essentially that seeing the band live first and

1625
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: some you know, That's why I used to love to

1626
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: go to the festival so much, went to Bonnero, went

1627
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: to Austin City limits, because you have the chance to

1628
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: stumble upon so many acts you never would have. I

1629
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know if I have an ant to this specific question,

1630
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: Like at a concert, There's been many times in specific

1631
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 1: listens where it was transforming. I mean this, you know,

1632
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 1: the pandemic when I bought six hundred records and turned

1633
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: my life around in this category and went so deep

1634
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: and was like, holy shit, the seventies were badass. How

1635
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: did I only listen to Leed Zeppein and the Rolling

1636
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: Stones and you know, insert five or six most famous

1637
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: rock and folk rock acts and not go deep into

1638
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: progressive rock and jazz fusion and psychedelic rock and you know,

1639
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just damn yeah. I mean it's something it

1640
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: takes sometimes listening to something with the right years. I

1641
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: could give you like album recommendation right now, and it

1642
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 1: just could be that the wrong day, the wrong history,

1643
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: you hadn't have the tongue. You know, you don't have

1644
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: the palette yet for it. You gotta build to it.

1645
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, my, you know, I could give you fusion

1646
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 1: records right now, but unless you took the journey to

1647
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: get there and the appreciation of jazz. Sometimes it doesn't click.

1648
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it just does. But I've had those awakening moments

1649
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: separate from concerts with the headphones on constantly in the

1650
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 1: last two years, and it's led me down some pretty

1651
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: cool roads. And you know, I am sort of threatening

1652
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: to go down that road and this whole idea of

1653
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: progressive metal as well, which would be a nice sort

1654
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: of expansion and merging of multiple worlds. But my recent

1655
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: runs into you know, god, just pure jazz fusion, damn.

1656
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been some of the most rewarding turns

1657
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: into you know, Chicago and Blood Sweat and Tears and

1658
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: sort of the you know, orchestral horn based rock and

1659
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: roll as well stuff. I thought, you know, it was

1660
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 1: the most sterile music you can ever hear in your life.

1661
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: Go put on the second Chicago album. Tell me that's

1662
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: not badass, you know what I mean? There? Go put

1663
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: on the first Blood Sweat and Tears album with al

1664
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: Cooper and all that weirdness. Psychedelic music is, man, it's great.

1665
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean this, this new genre of psychedelic folk which

1666
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: is happening my morning jacket is a big you know,

1667
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: to a certain degree of that sound or at least

1668
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: our old sound was more like that. Nothing better than

1669
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: the merging of psychedelic and folk. I mean that is

1670
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: just damn But no, Luke Thomas will not will not

1671
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: enjoy that or get it or get on that. There's

1672
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,640
Speaker 1: that's for sure. Quickly back to the fight games to

1673
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,719
Speaker 1: wrap up here, Giovanni m what is your top three

1674
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: fantasy matchups in the current UFC roster. I'd like to

1675
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: see Pereira at two a five one day against Yeerie

1676
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: or Easy, as Luke would stumble upon. Yeah, so I

1677
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: think seriously, Patty Connor, as I talked about earlier, it's

1678
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 1: sort of that like weird batshit kind of Yeah, I

1679
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: gotta see that right now. For sure, I'm coming around

1680
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 1: quicker than I thought on Volkanovski versus Mahachev, being like,

1681
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: I mean, look like that fight could be Machiev could

1682
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: dominate that frow now right, it could be a moot point.

1683
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: That flight could also just be like from a technical style, contrast,

1684
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: adjustment adapt adaption type fight. It could be a you know,

1685
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: the the purest of the of the chef's kiss of

1686
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: what this sport has to offer. And I'm kind of

1687
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: coming around on that, Like, man, this could be something

1688
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 1: really good. But you know, I want Jones and Ghanuo

1689
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: just about as much as you do, you know, no

1690
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 1: question about it. I want to TJ Dillashaw on some

1691
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: other matchups. That's why the injury retirement thing or who

1692
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: knows if it sticks kind of you know, because even

1693
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: an aging TJ still has those flashes of brilliance where

1694
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: there's so many more of the current bandamwit era that

1695
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to see him against. That's not gonna happen,

1696
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: but I'm intrigued on the idea of a late in

1697
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 1: his career Brian Ortega moving up in wait to just

1698
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: try to make crazy fun matchups. I'm also intrigued by

1699
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: that as well. But yeah, I mean I want Hamzat

1700
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 1: to be tested just as well as anybody does for

1701
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: the welterweight title. I mean, at Asnia against Prahatska is

1702
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 1: mind blowing to me. What that would look like really

1703
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: is really is all right, Uh two to close here

1704
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: quick ones pain Creation says, Hey, BC, how long after

1705
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: getting into boxing did you get into MMA? Did you

1706
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: take a while to come around to liking it as

1707
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: much as boxing? So my m journey has been somewhat

1708
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: parallel with my boxing journey, but it's take different runs.

1709
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: So I got into boxing in the mid eighties, got

1710
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: serious into it in the early nineties, fell off in

1711
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: the late nineties and early two thousands, but yet was

1712
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 1: still kind of around it simultaneously. Watched the early ufcs

1713
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: on the pay per view black Box with my dad,

1714
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: but did stop watching when it kind of started going

1715
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 1: off pay per view and you had to really seek

1716
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: it out. And I knew what was going on in

1717
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 1: thes of uf see, but that's really the area where

1718
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: I was the weakest on a day to day. It

1719
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 1: wasn't until I was at ESPN and Rampage versus Laddell

1720
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: happened that that was the first pay per view for

1721
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: MMA that I saw, like, you know, the ESPN culture

1722
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,560
Speaker 1: adjust to and go, okay, this is that weird the

1723
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: other sport that weren't talking about a lot, but this fight,

1724
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: this is gonna matter. Here. There's personalities they're going to

1725
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: bang all that. That was a big part of that

1726
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: in me getting back in and from that point on,

1727
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I was working in MMA at ESPN in various roles

1728
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that you know, from eight until now,

1729
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: you know the daily news cycle. Yeah, I've been all over,

1730
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: but they're certainly in and outs. You know, I wasn't

1731
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: necessarily watching, you know, that stretch where like Shamrock was

1732
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: fighting Randy Caturre. A lot of those fights I caught

1733
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: up on a few years later in terms of the gaps,

1734
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I'm a filthy casual in some

1735
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: regard of course. You know, do I know a risk

1736
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 1: lock from a wristwatch? As they would say in pro wrestling?

1737
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: I know some shit. Sometimes I play the fool for

1738
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: comedic purposes. Sometimes I do wonder and I you know,

1739
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 1: I do go to a therapist. But I've been trying

1740
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: to therapize myself my whole life. If if I try to,

1741
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: if I try to subconsciously project as being more country

1742
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: bumpkin than I am, to lower your expectations so then

1743
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: I come over the top and win you over. That's

1744
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: the thing I've been struggling with. I'm really just subconsciously

1745
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: doing that like a bait and switch. You know, maybe

1746
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: I'd be a good promoter at the end of the day.

1747
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's close up this week's with three recommendations

1748
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: to close here. These can change week by week. We

1749
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: used to do something like this on Fridays on Morning Combat,

1750
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: but went away with it, went away from it. Today

1751
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you with song, album, and fight,

1752
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: so b c's three recommendations to get us out the

1753
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: door here on this Tuesday. Thank you very much for joining. Song.

1754
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: It's a weird random one here, but it always ends

1755
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: up coming back up in my title playlist here. It's

1756
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: from a forgotten band that's no longer together from Australia

1757
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: called The Middle East. They play a very indie folk style,

1758
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: but they dabble in like ambient and experimental sounds at

1759
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: the same time. The song is called Blood and it

1760
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 1: comes off of two thousand and nine's The Recordings of

1761
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: the Middle East. Although this band did reunite a couple

1762
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 1: of years ago, they've not been active for a long time.

1763
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: I did see them on some cool South by Southwest

1764
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: YouTube streams back in the day and it was like,

1765
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: holy crap, this song Blood starts slow and haunting and creepy,

1766
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: but just kicks into a hell of a jam late.

1767
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: They've got some weird instruments mixed into the regular flow

1768
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: as well. The song is Blood by the Middle East.

1769
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: Put it on, I think you'll be entertained. My album

1770
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 1: recommendation for the week is this Shocker here. Okay, Shocker.

1771
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: Knew about this record my whole life. My dad used

1772
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: to play it on cassette. Everybody knows the hits in

1773
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: the MTV videos. But when I'm not getting into vinyl

1774
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 1: and adding something Paul Simon's Graceland from nineteen eighty six, look,

1775
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 1: we know it as the record that Simon I'm wat

1776
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 1: controversially mixed his sound with that of you know, more

1777
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: traditional South African music and rhythms. I wanted to not

1778
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: like it. I don't have a ton of eighties records,

1779
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: but I certainly I am looking out and picking out the

1780
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: ones that fit more into my wheelhouse and that weren't

1781
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: of that. They weren't of its era. This is not

1782
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: of its era. This is something so different for Paul Simon,

1783
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: the famous singer songwriter dipping a hard left turn into

1784
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: world music. But I expected this to be really commercial,

1785
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: like I love me some Steve Wood would, but I

1786
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:34,520
Speaker 1: love his late seventies solo stuff that's more jazz influenced,

1787
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: a progressive and different genres mixing than I necessarily love

1788
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: his commercial run in the mid eighties. Although look Back

1789
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: in the High Life is a great record, but it's

1790
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: heavy commercial and it's very of its time. There's a

1791
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: genius within that, but you get my point. Paul Simon's

1792
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: Graceline is from like another world and it holds up today.

1793
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: And I was really blown away going song by song,

1794
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: how brilliant across the board it is. And yeah, he

1795
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 1: got criticized for not only breaking the uh, you know,

1796
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: the the apartheid thing of the artists at the time

1797
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: of the American boycott against you know, going there to

1798
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 1: perform or or doing any business with there, and he

1799
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: broke that. He also got blamed for kind of stealing

1800
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: this music, the South African street music called mbacanga. I

1801
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,879
Speaker 1: think it's pronounced either way, dude. It sold sixty million copies.

1802
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 1: It's the one the Grammy for Album of the Year,

1803
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: but it actually holds up with the mix of pop

1804
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: rock and sort of world beat. There's some great special

1805
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: guests on there from jazz legends like Alfonso Johnson, Randy

1806
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Brecker and Steve Gadd to the Everly Brothers and Linda

1807
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: Ronstadt on background vocals. Simon also produced and arranged it,

1808
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: so anytime guys are going to that next level in

1809
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: that regard, I can appreciate the art, but I'm shocked

1810
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 1: it was that great. I'm really being serious here. Always

1811
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: knew the hits. The hits are great, but when you

1812
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: hear the hits in the context now of the album,

1813
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Diamond's on the sole over shoes, Damn, that's some brilliant shit.

1814
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 1: We close the beat. C's final recommendation it would be fight.

1815
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 1: If you're a boxing hardcore, you know about this one.

1816
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: But if your cash or filthy, or have only come

1817
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: to the box of late because of MK, go on

1818
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: the old YouTube machine and hit this up from two

1819
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: thousand and seven Wembley Arena in London for the WBO

1820
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: Interim lightweight title, when criminally forgotten in recent years, All

1821
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 1: Action star Michael katzides from Australia Greek background basically like

1822
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: the international Arturro Gotti. To be fair, when he went

1823
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: in their first first meeting against England's Graham Earl, and

1824
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,879
Speaker 1: you know this was expected to be a cat setis

1825
01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: win more or less, but Graham Earl showed on human

1826
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 1: inhumane ability to go in there and take big shots

1827
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: and just brawl back. This fight went five rounds, was one.

1828
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: It was a Fight of the Year contender, and it

1829
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: was the first in a four fight series in succession

1830
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: over fourteen months in which Michael Catsiedes went from international

1831
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: dude to top build boxing action star. This gramm Earle fight,

1832
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 1: the Sar Ammansot fight, which is massively underrated because uh

1833
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: Sar ended up having a brain bleed and retired for

1834
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: a while afterwards. With that fights a war, then the

1835
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 1: Joel Castimiyor and won Baby Bull Diaz fights, which a

1836
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,440
Speaker 1: lot of people remember because it was more on American television.

1837
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: Those four fights in a row. Action wise, you can

1838
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: put up against anybody. But what I love about this

1839
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: fight is cat CDs, who's a maniac, kind of met

1840
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 1: his match in Earl, who is raw and didn't have

1841
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,759
Speaker 1: the skill but had the equal amount of heart. Earl

1842
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 1: knocked down twice in the first round, he goes down

1843
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: again in the second. The referee ignores the corner, throwing

1844
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 1: in the towel to stop the fight because under the

1845
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: British Board of Boxing Control, you know, your refere can

1846
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,879
Speaker 1: just kick the towel out and be like, no, he's fine.

1847
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: As soon as he does that, Graham Eorurle comes alive,

1848
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: ends up getting a knockdown on cat CDs on a

1849
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 1: standing eight count. There's cuts. It's a standing brawl. Do

1850
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: not miss it. It's the first. Don't watch the rematch

1851
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: that was unnecessary. Seven years later, two thousand and seven,

1852
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: Graham Earl Michael cat CDs. All right, I gave you

1853
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: ninety minutes of ramblin and I don't know. We'll see

1854
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: if you like it. Let me know got more where

1855
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: this came from in the future. If you're down, my

1856
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 1: name is Brian Campbell. That was the inside of my brain.

1857
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully you connected with parts of that, or at least

1858
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: were entertained by my rambling and fast talking. Morning Combat

1859
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: is typically every Monday, Wednesday and Friday eleven am Eastern

1860
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 1: on the YouTube's me Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas. We went

1861
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: awards for this ship, whether we deserve it or not.

1862
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: But tomorrow, Wednesday, December fourteenth, a special start time of

1863
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 1: two pm Eastern time, a regular morning combat episode with

1864
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 1: an irregular special announcement to open, I think you're gonna

1865
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 1: like it. It's big, really, it's big. It's big, guys. It's

1866
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: pretty big. I mean, you know that's what. That's why

1867
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,280
Speaker 1: I wish you said. I mean, it's pretty damn big, guys,

1868
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:41,680
Speaker 1: all right, I mean yeah, I've seen it. Pretty big,

1869
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,799
Speaker 1: pretty big. So check that out two pm Eastern Tomorrow special.

1870
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Thanks to Mikey Moore, Miles on the Ones and Twoes

1871
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 1: for helping me present this to the people. It's my

1872
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: painting for the week. I haven't painting in a while, right,

1873
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: It's my painting for the week. Enjoy it. I mean,

1874
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: what do you see here? I don't know. You may

1875
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: see yourself if you look close enough, you may see

1876
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 1: a portion of your own soul. But bast's got to go.

1877
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 1: Two more awards we out