1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 1: Live from the Bloomberg Interacted Berger Studios. This is Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: day Break for Monday, February six. Coming up today, a 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Chinese balloon up ends relations with the US and stirs 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: up criticism on Capitol Hill. The head of the I 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: m F has a warning if the US defaults on 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: its debt. Dell is the latest tech company to his 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: slash jobs, and Carlyle Group naps a former Goldman exec 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: to be it's next CEO. I maybe Morris. New York 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: City schools are having to take in children without proof 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: of vaccination, and Connecticut prepares for the possible arrival of 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: bus loads of migrants. John Stashtaward Swards, The Nets traded Kyrie, 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Irving did Dallas. The next came from behind beat Philadelphia 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: at the Garden. That's all's trading ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg eleven three, on New York, Bloomberg one, Washington, 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomberg one oh six one, Boston, Bloomberg nine 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: sixties and Francisco Sirius x M one nineteen and around 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: the world on Bloomberg Radio dot com and via The 18 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business. Good Morning, I'm Nathan Hagar. And I'm Karin Moscow. 19 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: Here are the stories we're following today. We begin with 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: the high flying international incident that is threatening to bring 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 1: US China relations to a new low. This morning, dive 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: teams are off the coast of South Carolina salvaging what's 23 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: left of a suspected Chinese spy balloon that drifted across 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the US last week. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer says 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: the Biden administration made the right call in waiting to 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: take the device down. I commend President Biden's leadership in 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: taking down the Chinese balloon over water to ensure safety 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: for all Americans and maximize the intelligence we gain. But 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Republicans are arguing President Biden could have acted sooner when 30 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the balloon was first spotted over Alaska. Marco Rubio is 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee. It really 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: would have been helpful for the President of the United 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: States to get on national television and explain the American people, 34 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: this is what we're dealing with, this is what I'm 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna do about it, and and this is why I 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: haven't done it yet. Senator Ruby I was on ABC's 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: This Week Heard Sundays on Bloomberg Radio leader Schumer says 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: the Senate will get a full classified briefing next week. Well, Nathan, 39 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: those geo political concerns are weighing on global markets. Hong 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Kong's Hang Sang index dropped two percent, while stocks in 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: China fel one point three percent. In US futures are 42 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: also lower. Meanwhile, Goldman Sack strategists say the eight percent 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: rally and stocks over the past month maybe as good 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: as it gets this year. Goldman says the SNP five 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: hundred now accurately reflects signs of better than expected economic 46 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: growth and a drop in bond yields. At the same time, 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Goldman says higher valuations, lackluster corporate earnings, and an elevated 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: interest rates means there's little room for the rally to extend. Meanwhile, 49 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: Karen Wall Street returns to another busy week four earnings reports, 50 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: and we get more from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. There are 51 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: questions on Wall Street about whether the outlook for corporate 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 1: profits aren't still too high. Mike Wilson is chief US 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: equity strategist at Morgan Stanley. Earnings are disappointing everywhere. Okay, 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: this is one of the worst streets and earnings we've 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: seen in quite a while, and people are now saying, oh, 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: it's better than feared and this and the other. That's 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: like saying a tornado ripped through your house and saying, oh, well, 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: only knocked out the bedroom. I mean, earns are bad 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: and you need to be honest about that. So far, 60 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: we've heard from half of SMP five hundred companies. Among 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the names scheduled to report this week, BP, Uber, and 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: Disney will also hear from young brands PepsiCo, DuPont, PayPal, Hilton, 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: and CVS Health. In New York, Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak, 64 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: All right, Churley, thank you well. The head of the 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: International Monetary Fund, Warren Stead, American consumers would suffer if 66 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: the US defaults on its dead Kristalina Georgieva says that 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: a fault would cause a spike and borrowing costs that 68 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: would squeeze average Americans. If US defaults, that would push 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: interest rates up. And if people don't like inflation today, 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: they're not going to like at all what may happen tomorrow? Yeah, 71 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: I m s. Krystalina Georgieva may have a comments on 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: sixty Minutes from CBS our Washington. Listeners can catch the 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: program Sunday nights at ten on Bloomberg. Let's turn to 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: corporate news now, Karen. The tech industry is seeing more 75 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: job cuts this morning. We get the story from Bloomberg's 76 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: Lisa Mateo. Dell Technology says it will eliminate about six thousand, 77 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty jobs. A company spokesperson says the 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: reductions amount to about five percent of Dell's global workforce. 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: After the cuts, Dell's headcount will be at its lowest 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: level and at least six years. Dell has been facing 81 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: plummeting demand for personal computers. Layoffs have hammered the tech 82 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: sector in recent months, including many of Dell's peers and competitors, HP, 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: Cisco Systems, and IBM have all announced cutbacks. The tech 84 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: sector announced more than ninety seven thousand job cuts. In 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: consulting firm Challenger Gray and Christmas says that's up six 86 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine per scent compared with the previous year. 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: Lisa Mateo Bloomberg Daybreak Right, Lisa, thanks well. Another corporate 88 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: news this morning, Carlyle Group has chosen its next CEO 89 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: again more from Bloomberg to Doug Kristner. He's Harvey Schwartz, 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: a former co president of Goldman Sachs. He departed in 91 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when he wasn't chosen to succeed Lloyd Blank 92 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: find a CEO. The job went to David Solomon instead. 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: We are told Carlyle is planning to announce the appointment 94 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: of Shorts as soon as this week. He'll take over 95 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: from co founder Bill Conway, who has been interim CEO. 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: After some management turnover. In recent years, Carlyle expanded beyond 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: its buyout roots to the business of credit. The aim 98 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: was to recover ground lost in two to bigger rivals 99 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Apollo Global and KKR In New York, I'm Doug Christner 100 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Daybreak, Doug Thanks in India the Stock Route, Royal 101 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: and Gautama. Donnie's indebted conglomerate entered a third week as 102 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: its flagship firms suffered a fresh fundraising set back in 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: a major credit rating agency downgraded the outlook on two 104 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: of its companies. Ever since US short seller Hindenburg's fraud 105 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: allegations last month, that Donny has lost a hundred eighteen 106 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: billion dollars, or more than half the market value of 107 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: its companies. Donnie has repeatedly denied the claims. Well, Nathan, 108 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: Tesla is raising the prices of its Motto Y suv 109 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and the US The cost of the Model Y Long 110 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Range is increased by one thousand, five hundred dollars to 111 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: just under fifty five thousand, while the Model Y Performance 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: is up one thousand dollars to nearly fifty eight grand. 113 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: And the move comes after the Biden administration introduced measures 114 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: to make more crossover suv is qualified for the newly 115 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: revamped tax credit. This is Bloomberg. It is forty one 116 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: degrees in Central Park. It's gonna turn sunny in a 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: lot milder today. We'll get up to your fifty degrees 118 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: down to the low thirties tonight with a few clouds. 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: Time not to take a look at some of the 120 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: other stories making news in New York and around the 121 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: world with Bloomberg's Amy Morris. Good morning, Amy, Good morning Nathan. 122 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: The US is offering help to find quake survivors in 123 00:06:53,839 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: south central Turkey and neighboring Syria after a magnitude seven 124 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: point eight earthquake more than six hundred deaths are reported 125 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: after the quake that was centered in Turkey, but it 126 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: was felt as far away as Lebanon and Israel. The 127 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: White House National Security Advisor has issued a statement saying 128 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: quote President Biden has directed U, S, a, I, D, 129 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: and other federal government partners to assess US response options. 130 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: The flood of migrant children into New York City has 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: forced schools to now take in children without proof of vaccination, 132 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: and estimated eleven thousand migrant children have enrolled in city 133 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: schools since the summer, and The New York Post reports 134 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: many of them are unvaccinated. Students in kindergarten through fifth 135 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: grade in city schools are required to have multiple vaccines, 136 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: including four chicken pox, polio, and appetitus B. One middle 137 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: school in Gramercy Park has already had one case of 138 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: chicken pox. Connecticut is urging cities and towns to prepare 139 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: themselves for the possible arrival of bus loads of migrants 140 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: for the southern border. The request was made over concerns 141 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: about the buses that were arriving in New York City 142 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: and in Philadelphia. State officials say the request was not 143 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: made because of any specific warning, only indicating it would 144 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: be good to be prepared. Officials say any migrants shipped 145 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: to the state would likely be housed locally in schools 146 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: or other public buildings until suitable housing can be found. 147 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: The sixty annual Grammy Awards are in the books Harry 148 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Styles One Album of the Year, Lizzo One Record of 149 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the Year. I look around and there's all these songs 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 1: that are about loving our bodies and feeling comfortable in 151 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: our skin, and and I'm just so proud to be 152 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: a part of it. Beyonce also made history. She won 153 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: four of the nine categories in which she was nominated. 154 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: That brings her total number of Grammys over her lifetime 155 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: to thirty two. That's the most of any recording artist ever. 156 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: Global News powered by more than journalists and analysts in 157 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: more than one twenty countries. I'm Amy Morris and this 158 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. Nathan. Thank you, Amy. Time for the Bloomberg 159 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: Sports Update, brought to you by tri State OUTI. Good morning, 160 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: John Stanshower, Good morning, Nathan. Kyrie. Irving has played for 161 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: three NBA teams. He has forced himself out of all three, 162 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: won a championship in Cleveland, then got tired of playing 163 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: second fiddld of Lebron James. His next stop was Boston. 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: That didn't go well, and his four years in Brooklyn 165 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: included the unvaccination controversy of last season. This year's controversy 166 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: was about anti Semitism. Kyrie just demanded the trade, and 167 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: the Nets traded him to Dallas. Nets get back at 168 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: old friend Spencer did when he flourished in his five 169 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: seasons in Brooklyn, and Nets also pick up Dorry and 170 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Phinney Smith and three draft picks, the first rounder. But 171 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: that's not until nine at the Garden. Knicks trailed Philadelphia 172 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: by one, then got back in with a seventeen nothing 173 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: and runna seldom use. Nick played a big role in 174 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: the win. Exit up in front, top rivers, fakes to pass, 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: top top top four, to shoot Trodstas four y stay 176 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: the way three shot Vic four yea, what a performance 177 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: with fourteen He's big four threes hev Nicks lead on 178 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: ESPN New York. Evin Fournua last season set a Nick 179 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: record for most three pointers. Maybe, but he's been buried 180 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: on the bench. He saw time with r J. Barrett 181 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: out sick, and he scored seventeen and the Knicks beat 182 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: the sixers one O eight to nineties seven college hoops 183 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Seaton All's won seven the last eight. Pirvates beat De 184 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: Paul sixty four. The Islanders, who just acquired bo Horvat 185 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: from Vancouver, signed him to an eight year contract before 186 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: he's even played his first game with the Oils. The 187 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Mets hired Carlos Beltron to work in the front office. 188 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: He was gonna be their manager in until the revelations 189 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: of his involvement in the signs stealing scandal in Houston. 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Justin Rose leads golf at Pebble Beach by two shots. 191 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: They'll finish play today. John Stasholler Bloomberg Sports Live from 192 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, Boston 193 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Sirius xamp, a Bloomberg 194 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 195 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar. We begin a new trading 196 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: week with more companies due to report earnings, new questions 197 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: about the fence policy path after last week's blowout jobs report, 198 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and geopolitical risk back in play thanks to a Chinese 199 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: surveillance balloon. Let's get more on all this now, we're 200 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: very pleased to be joined by Lori Calvasin ahead of 201 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: US Equity Strategy at RBC Capital Markets. Laurie, it's good 202 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: to speak with you this morning, but not such a 203 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: good morning for markets when you consider the hang sand 204 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: closed down two percent overnight and we're watching futures begin 205 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: the week pointing to a lower open. How much is 206 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: geopolitical risk potentially a risk for this market in the 207 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: medium to long term. Well, thanks for having me, as 208 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: always and looks a political risk, as we you know 209 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: well learned last year, is something that markets often ruggle 210 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: to digest, at least initially and and can potentially have 211 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: negative consequences. And I think with China in particular, there's 212 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: just been one series of events after another dating all 213 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: the way back to that has told us the world 214 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: isn't going global anymore. Um. So that's really how I 215 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: interpreted this morning. I mean, I think one of your 216 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: reporters had a brilliant phrase, a turn of phrase when 217 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: they called it a bizarre saga, and and that's really 218 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: I think quite appropriate here. Um. But nevertheless, it does 219 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: highlight once again that deteriorating relations between US and China 220 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: are something investors have to keep at the forefront of 221 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: their minds, and that stands in contrast to the fact 222 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: that people are getting very excited about the China reopening 223 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: for the last few months. So, UM, I understand why 224 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: markets down a little bit on this news. That's a 225 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: really interesting point given that, yeah, we have seen a 226 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: lot of excitement around the reopening. I know you talked 227 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: to a lot of market participants in your role. What 228 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: are they saying in terms of how they're thinking about 229 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: US China relations and how it could impact their investments. Well, 230 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, aside from this particular issue, where it's been 231 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: coming up the most have been in discussions of sector performance. 232 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: So if you want to play the China reopening or 233 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: just you know, kind of get exposure to areas with 234 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: high Asia pack exposure, technology and materials have been two 235 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: of the ways to play it, and those are two 236 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: areas that have been acting much better in recent months. UM. 237 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: But I think the other place it really comes into 238 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: into play as our conversations with investors about industrials, And 239 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: I want to be clear that industrials and the sector 240 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: that i've market weight on, I do have some concerns 241 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: about valuation. UM. But we we do point out that 242 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: industrials is getting caught up in the broader reshoring theme, 243 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: just this idea of you know, when I started in 244 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: the business two thousands, for the next ten years or so, 245 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: it was all about going global. Well, now we're reversing 246 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: that trend right now in industrials is really at the 247 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: epicenter of where you want to be if we are, 248 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, sort of seeing companies, seeing governments want to 249 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: make more things close to home. Um, And that's really 250 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: where it comes up. And we point out to people 251 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: that it's not just about any one event, it's about 252 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: that series of it's again going back to where the 253 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: relations just seem to keep deteriorating. Other than industrials, are 254 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: there other sectors that are affected by the reshuffling of 255 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: supply chains that we've seen, uh, not just due to 256 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: geopolitical risk but post pandemic trying to bring things closer 257 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: to home. Well, I think that's certainly been an issue 258 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: for a number of consumer companies. We've already seen a 259 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: number of consumer companies after the trade warshift things around 260 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: and non US geographies. UM. I think materials gets caught 261 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: up into this to certain extent. As well. I'm just 262 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: as residual on the industrial impact, but I would say 263 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: your industrials is really at the epicenter of it. I 264 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on where this rally goes 265 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: from here. We've seen an eight percent increase in the 266 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: SMP five hundred since the start of the year. Does 267 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: this have further to go? So? I think one of 268 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: the things that people were concerned about US equity coming 269 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: into this year was this rotation and the idea that 270 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: bonds looked more appeal, that non US equities looked more appealing. 271 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: And I think those are certainly, you know, sort of 272 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: issues at play, but we have to remember that, you know, 273 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: you tend to see in clothes go into all asset 274 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: classes at the start of a year, um and so 275 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that's helped US 276 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: equity so far this year. You know, it's funny we've 277 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: been talking a lot about how the stock market. If 278 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: you look at daily trading in the SMP for the 279 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: past year, it's tracked very tightly that O two oh 280 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: three time period, which was another period of messy post 281 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: crisis normalization, and we're starting to see that breakdown recently 282 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: in the SMP five favor. You've had a positive breakout 283 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: from that O two oh three path, And I just 284 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: bring that up because if we are going to have 285 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: another sort of early year retreatment, now is about what 286 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: it should be. Starting perhaps a little bit later than 287 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: the historical playbook suggested, but now is really kind of 288 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: the time when you'd expect to see it. So in 289 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: our last thirty seconds at least in this part of 290 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: the conversation, are you looking for stocks to move demonstrably 291 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: lower before the first half So know, I would say 292 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm not part of the sort of deeply bearished consensus 293 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: that's been pounding the table on the idea that we 294 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: need to go back and surpass the October lows. We 295 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: said that there's risk of retesting those loads. Um, I 296 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: think that if we do, you know, have that break 297 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I would be surprised at this point in time if 298 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: we were to retest or really even break below those 299 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: October loads, because I think the market is still got 300 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: enough evidence that the soft landing thesis is intact for now. 301 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we are, I think coming up on the 302 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: point when we'll have most of the earnings downgrades, and 303 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: traditionally that's a clearing event for market. 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