WEBVTT - Scientist Vanishing Patterns

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<v Speaker 1>An hour two Sean Hannity Show told for you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred nine poot one, Shawn, you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of the program. I am captivated by this story,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm actually extremely concerned about it, as is James

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<v Speaker 1>camer the head of the very important House Overside Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>as are people in law enforcement that I'm talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>And what am I talking about? The eleven American Nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>Space Link scientists that have either disappeared or died under

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<v Speaker 1>very mysterious circumstances, all within the last four years, and

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<v Speaker 1>now both the FBI and the House Overside Committee are

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<v Speaker 1>investigating this string of mysteries. Nancy Grace, I think, says

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<v Speaker 1>it very well. And she has devoted her entire life

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<v Speaker 1>as a prosecutor, as a victim of crime, and as

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<v Speaker 1>a victim advocate, looking into cases deep and wide, and

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<v Speaker 1>she basically says, Okay, one person goes missing, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>isolated incident. If two happens, that would be a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have more than three, in this case, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>over a period of four years, that is a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>you are very honored to have back on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole Parker, author of the two fbis the bravery, the

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<v Speaker 1>betrayal I saw in my time at the bureau. Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Grace Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and on Fox One.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome both of you back to the program. Nancy Grace,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with you. One is an isolated incident. Two

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<v Speaker 1>is a coincidence. We have eleven What do we call that?

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<v Speaker 2>We call that a pattern that is borne out by

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<v Speaker 2>all my years of investigating and prosecuting repeat felonies, serial killers,

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<v Speaker 2>serial rapists, serial childlin station, serial arson, which is very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to produce, Sean. In preparation for talking with you

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<v Speaker 2>and Nicole today, I had the opportunity to speak to

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<v Speaker 2>a former British intelligence officer, Frank Milburn, who knew Amy

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<v Speaker 2>Eskridge very well. She is one of the scientists. She

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<v Speaker 2>in particular was working on anti gravity jet propulsion. And

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<v Speaker 2>what is that? Okay, as a trial lawyer, I never

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<v Speaker 2>had to with anti gravity jet propulsion. But what it

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<v Speaker 2>is is when an aircraft, be it a plane or

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<v Speaker 2>any other aircraft can go up down, side to side

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<v Speaker 2>to diagonal directions and faster than anything with which we

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<v Speaker 2>are familiar, it's real anti gravity jet propulsion. Imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>lucrative that would be to one of our enemies or

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<v Speaker 2>another corporation. Long story short Estace was working on that

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<v Speaker 2>before she was found dead from a self allegedly self

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<v Speaker 2>inflated gunshot went into the head in Hustle, Alabama, where

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<v Speaker 2>as you know the NASA, one of the NASA centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's Rocket City. I lived there for two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I broadcast there for two years, and I know it

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<v Speaker 1>really really well, Redstone Arsenal, Rocket City, USA, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>well known for some of the most brilliant scientists in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. And yeah, they're claiming that this death was

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<v Speaker 1>ruled by suicide. In any of the cases of any

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<v Speaker 1>of the eleven, did we ever have an autopsy some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them, for instance, hers was ruled a suicide. But

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<v Speaker 2>Milburn tells me, and he is a former British intelligence officer,

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<v Speaker 2>in the last hours, that he had a very long

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<v Speaker 2>correspondence with her. He knew her very very well. They

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<v Speaker 2>were friends, and shortly before her death she said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm found dead, I did not commit suicide, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what they tell you know that, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to take my information and make it public. I find

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<v Speaker 2>that very probative. And not only that, Sean since you

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<v Speaker 2>and I last spoke last night, I've delved into the

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<v Speaker 2>facts of the various disappearances, and five of them seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>walk away from their home with no identification, no tracking

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<v Speaker 2>devices such as a smartphone, a cell phone, nothing. They

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<v Speaker 2>walk away and are never seen again. Most striking is

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<v Speaker 2>a woman who walks away, has just taken her daughter

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<v Speaker 2>a subway sandwich. And I know that you know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>referring to Melissic Seas she takes her daughter lunch, says

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working from home today. At two o'clock, he's on

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance video walking by foot in the heat of the

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<v Speaker 2>day in New Mexico. She vanishes and is never seen again.

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<v Speaker 2>Both her sales.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in Los Alamos. She worked in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Lab Administration. She was an assistant there.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, Yes, she walks away and when the police get there,

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<v Speaker 2>when her daughter calls her mom missing, both her sales

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<v Speaker 2>on work and home work and personal have been wiped

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<v Speaker 2>plain factory recent Oh that's Nicole.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a mere coincidence, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been very closely listening to Nancy's orders and I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's just something in all of these. You

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<v Speaker 3>can look at them each individually, but when you look

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<v Speaker 3>at them together and you do see these patterns, it

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<v Speaker 3>is a reason for law enforcement to take this very seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>and so any type of investigation of this nature is

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<v Speaker 3>always going to be a serious concern for our national security.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously, right now the FBI has not released

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<v Speaker 3>any concrete evidence of a coordinated plot putting them together,

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<v Speaker 3>but we are always looking sean for espionage, any involvement

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<v Speaker 3>of a hostile foreign intelligence service group being involved. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's exactly why you've got multiple departments. You've got the FBI,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got the Department of Energy, you've got the Department

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<v Speaker 3>of War, got NASA, and they are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>linking up with the state and local law enforcement departments

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<v Speaker 3>to determine each individual case because as we know, the

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<v Speaker 3>jurisdiction for each individual case is with the locals, that

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<v Speaker 3>they will be looking at it cumulatively to see if

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<v Speaker 3>there are any patterns and getting to the bottom of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single individual involved, they were doing extremely sensitive work

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<v Speaker 3>with nuclear weapons, aerospace, defense technology, and they were in

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<v Speaker 3>serious competition. We know that people want our information, they

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<v Speaker 3>want our technology. We are in competition with China, Russia, Iran,

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<v Speaker 3>and they will go to all links who stopped individuals

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<v Speaker 3>I believe potentially from releasing that information and from America

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<v Speaker 3>being umber one in each of those categories. So I

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<v Speaker 3>also think it's important to again look at the facts

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<v Speaker 3>and the evidence. It could be very easy to look

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<v Speaker 3>and say, you know, oh this is you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>are all linked and there's stoul play involved. I personally am.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. There's two individuals, in particular the scientist from MIT.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that he Larrero. We know that he was

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<v Speaker 3>killed by the same individual that did the Brown University

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<v Speaker 3>mass shooting. Okay, that was back in December of twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five. We know that he went for Brown University

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<v Speaker 3>and then went up north to his home in Brooklyne, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was shot and killed at his home. We

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<v Speaker 3>know that he was a former classmate of his, but

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<v Speaker 3>we don't ever know the exact motive because he is

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<v Speaker 3>now dead. Okay. We also know that there was another

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<v Speaker 3>scientist from cal Tech who was also killed. That was

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<v Speaker 3>Carl Grillmer. He was killed on his front porch by

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<v Speaker 3>an individual in rural California and around you know, early

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning. And this person, Snyder, has been arrested

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<v Speaker 3>and charged with his murder. Is the motive yet determined? No,

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<v Speaker 3>But it is important to note that that same individual

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<v Speaker 3>had they had received a call from Carl in a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months earlier saying that this individual had been

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<v Speaker 3>trespassing on his property. So this is the same individual

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<v Speaker 3>that had been previously trespassing and then goes on to

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<v Speaker 3>kill him on his front porch.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Again you have to note.

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<v Speaker 3>That person had also been charged and been looked into

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<v Speaker 3>it for a carjacking that same day. But again, you

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<v Speaker 3>look at the different patterns and I think one that really,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they all are quite alarming to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Nancy brings up a very good point the

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<v Speaker 3>Amy Eskridge. There's a lot of information on her, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they say it was an alleged suicide, but

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<v Speaker 3>there are specific details that I too, have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>looked into that I think is very odd. She did

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<v Speaker 3>a YouTube interview back in twenty twenty, and she was

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<v Speaker 3>saying things like, quote, if you stick your neck out

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<v Speaker 3>in public, at least someone notices if your head gets

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<v Speaker 3>top off. If you stick your neck out in private,

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<v Speaker 3>they will bury you. They will burn down your house.

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<v Speaker 3>While you're sleeping in your bed and it won't even

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<v Speaker 3>make the news. I have to publish because it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get worse until I publish. And she was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about how threats against her were becoming more and more aggressive.

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<v Speaker 3>You cannot turn a blind eye to that and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just a mere coincidence, okay. And then you look

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<v Speaker 3>at other individuals. The woman who was hiking Monica Raza

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<v Speaker 3>in California, I think that one is extremely odd. She's

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<v Speaker 3>hiking with her friends in the Angelus National Park and

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, she just disappears. Her friend sees

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<v Speaker 3>her about thirty feet away. She turns around, looks again.

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<v Speaker 3>Gone sean, nowhere to be found. And they did searches,

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<v Speaker 3>they did surveillance, they did everything, Rod and canines nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>She just vami.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't help ourselves as a country when we have

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<v Speaker 1>wide open borders and you have twelve plus million people,

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<v Speaker 1>including known terror murderers, rapist, child molesters, cartel members, gang

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<v Speaker 1>members allowed another country and the country gets lied to

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<v Speaker 1>for four years. And the other dumb thing that we

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<v Speaker 1>do is we allow Chinese nationals. They've been gobbling up ranchland,

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<v Speaker 1>farmland and land near military installations. Now for decades, I

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<v Speaker 1>doubt President she in China would allow me to buy

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<v Speaker 1>any land their military installations. Let me go back to

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Grace for a second. There is a nexus point

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<v Speaker 1>with a number of the people here with retired Air

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<v Speaker 1>Force Major General William Neil McCasland. And he's been missing,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, since February of this year. Number of

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<v Speaker 1>the other people that are gone are connected to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes they are. Sean mchaslin goes missing two twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, and he goes missing in under an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what is the significant He was the senior official,

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<v Speaker 2>he commanded the Air Force research lab. He's a senior Pentagon.

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<v Speaker 2>He is spotted by his wife and a repairman at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven ten am. Wife goes to hear salon comes back

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<v Speaker 2>twelve oh four. He's gone. He leaves on foot, just

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<v Speaker 2>like four others did from his home. Leaves behind phones, electronics, smartwatch,

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<v Speaker 2>prescription glasses. He takes hiking boots and a thirty eight. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Shortly thereafter, the only thing to identify him as US

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<v Speaker 2>is an USAF sweat shirt that was found on the roadside. Now, interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have been through a lot on Guthries

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<v Speaker 2>where Nanos the Peva County Sheriff would not allow the

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<v Speaker 2>FEDS into the investigation until they had basically botched it

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<v Speaker 2>beyond repair. Then the FEDS come in and try to

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<v Speaker 2>clean it all up. In this case, I have learned

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<v Speaker 2>that the FBI has jumped on Macastle's disappearance in March uninvited.

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<v Speaker 2>Now why would that be and attached to mccawslon as

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<v Speaker 2>you accurately pointed out. Garcia disappears from New Mexico, Albuquerque.

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<v Speaker 2>Melissa Cassias, the mom I just told you about. She

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<v Speaker 2>was from Elmos, Monica. Jscinto reisas that you were just

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<v Speaker 2>hearing about that vanished on the hiking trail. Anthony Chavez

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<v Speaker 2>leaves behind Keith car wallet phone. He is from Los

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<v Speaker 2>Alamos as well. They're all connected to McCaslin in one

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<v Speaker 2>way or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, quick break, we'll come back more on these

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<v Speaker 1>eleven missing scientists. Beyond suspicious in my mind. We'll continue

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<v Speaker 1>more with Nancy Grayson Nicole Parker on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>than your calls coming up eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be a part of the programm

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<v Speaker 1>as we continue. All right, let's get to our busy telephones.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Susan in the great state of Texas. Susan,

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<v Speaker 1>glad you called God blessed Texas. Thanks for checking in.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, miss Snaty, how are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very good, Thank you for calling.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a great, a long time listener, first time

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<v Speaker 4>color I was going to wade into the war United States.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Iranian born, American citizen, been here for almost thirty

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<v Speaker 4>six years, so it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a great Did you grow did your formative years?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you grow up in Iran?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, I came to the United States when I

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<v Speaker 4>was eighteen, and then I got married, my children here,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, we stayed here, unfortunately not being able

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<v Speaker 4>to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, let me ask you. How old were you

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<v Speaker 1>during the time of the revolution in seventy nine.

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<v Speaker 4>I was born in seventy one, so I was about

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<v Speaker 4>six years old. I was there till eighteenth and then

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<v Speaker 4>I'm you know, like left the country, came to the

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<v Speaker 4>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so sad to me because the Persian

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<v Speaker 1>people in Iran have such a rich culture and the

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<v Speaker 1>contributions to humanity over the many, many centuries. Is unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have been oppressed now for forty seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they're being slaughtered and thank god the president was

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<v Speaker 1>able to apparently get a reprieve for these young women

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<v Speaker 1>that were scheduled to be hung. And I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>that is real and hopefully we'll see an end to

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<v Speaker 1>this conflict. There's going to be an end one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other, but anyway, I'd love to hear your perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, thank you so much for saying that. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're so grateful for your support for a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people that are absolutely you know, are on our side.

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<v Speaker 4>I know everybody has their you know, different opinion, different

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<v Speaker 4>politics views, but everything, you know, we really know that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, President Trump is a wonderful, if one of

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<v Speaker 4>the best presidents for the United States, having you know,

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<v Speaker 4>United States best interests at heart. So if people come

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<v Speaker 4>to us and say, oh, you think, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>Israel or United States are just you know, worrying about

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<v Speaker 4>people in Iran, absolutely not that there is no other way.

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<v Speaker 4>There is absolutely zero way that we could have gotten

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<v Speaker 4>where we are right now without the intervention of the

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<v Speaker 4>United States, and you know, but the help of Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>You you know, people, What people don't realize shanity is

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<v Speaker 4>is just people with just people know nothing against armed

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<v Speaker 4>forces in Iran. They are not Iranian, they're not Persian.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not afraid of killing people. They don't have any

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<v Speaker 4>values for anyone. And quite frankly, I don't really think this,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, peace, you know, cease fires or these times

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<v Speaker 4>is going to change anything. They've never been truthful, they've

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<v Speaker 4>never been had you know, having any you know, any

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<v Speaker 4>of the people's good on their mind. And also I

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<v Speaker 4>was listening to your show last night. One of the

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<v Speaker 4>young American people was asking you. I was wondering if

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<v Speaker 4>you know, with continuing the war, uh Iranian people in

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<v Speaker 4>the United States are going to be mad. Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we have been asking for this, we have

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<v Speaker 4>been praying for this. We are you know, like Iran

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<v Speaker 4>has is one of the richest countries in you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in in planet, and everybody knows that, but unfortunately it

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<v Speaker 4>has the poorest population that anybody you know could imagine

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<v Speaker 4>the you know, the kids, the children, and it's not

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<v Speaker 4>any difference from that, you know, like right now everything

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<v Speaker 4>is super expensive, super rare. You know, people are having

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<v Speaker 4>a hard time living. Of course, it's a lot worse.

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<v Speaker 4>After the war started. All of my family is in Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to tell you that that there the

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<v Speaker 4>three you know, the we are three siblings, my parents,

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<v Speaker 4>my nephews, everybody is in Iran. I am the only

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<v Speaker 4>one residing in the United States. So if I say that,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not that you know, I see both wolves. I

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<v Speaker 4>see United States and the great benefit and the great

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<v Speaker 4>life that has given me and my children. And you

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<v Speaker 4>know here and also what I have in Iran, you

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<v Speaker 4>know directly from the family that I hear. So life

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<v Speaker 4>is very difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, things are not Let me add some context

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Susan, because unlike a lot of people, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the sources that I have. And I even

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to the president directly last night, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to share the majority of the contents of that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are people that would would foolishly interpret the

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<v Speaker 1>president extending the ceasefire to mean that he's unwilling to

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever is necessary to win this conflict and this war.

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<v Speaker 1>The president has the ability, probably within fifteen minutes, to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy the economy of Iran. The president, there are two

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<v Speaker 1>things that appealed to him in extending this, and they

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<v Speaker 1>put a timeline on it. But I knew this timeline

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I only reference that there was. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be short lived, and it's three to five days.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of the problem is that the Iranians cannot communicate.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said in the last hour, they cannot communicate

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<v Speaker 1>with each other because they if they ever got on

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<v Speaker 1>a cell phone, if it even worked, the problem would

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<v Speaker 1>be that they feared that their location would be given

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<v Speaker 1>up and they'd be dead. So there is a communication

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<v Speaker 1>problem between the hard line IRGC and those that understand

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<v Speaker 1>the handwriting is on the wall and are more more

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<v Speaker 1>inclined to do a deal with the president. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that is partly real. But the president is the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I will tell you he said to me

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<v Speaker 1>directly last night. He said, Sean, I can bomb them anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that's not the issue. We have re armed

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<v Speaker 1>and we have built up our military presidence even larger

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<v Speaker 1>than before epic fury. He goes after he was appealed

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<v Speaker 1>to by the Prime Minister of Pakistan himself, and after

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<v Speaker 1>taking into account the impact on your your family and

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<v Speaker 1>the Persian people and the people in Iran. He has

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<v Speaker 1>decided to give this, you know, every every last opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to end with a peaceful agreement, a negotiated settlement. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where this is coming from. And the media would have

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<v Speaker 1>you think, oh, this is we he's failing, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>in control. The blockade is preventing the Iranians from from

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<v Speaker 1>an income of five hundred million dollars a day. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you read as there were reports, oh, all these

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six ships got through and Chris Murphy is all

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating this, it wasn't true. It's not true. Not one

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ship has gotten through. The blockade has been one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent successful. It's a matter. I know people had that

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<v Speaker 1>their attention span is about as short as a gnat.

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<v Speaker 1>And the President is trying to thread the needle between

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<v Speaker 1>doing what we need to do militarily to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>world a better, safer place for our children and grandchildren,

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<v Speaker 1>to do as little damage to the Iranian people, because

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<v Speaker 1>the easy way would be to just bomb out their economy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an easy decision. But I hate to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Susan people like your family and other families, Iranian families,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have one hundred and eighty percent in

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<v Speaker 1>plation rate now one to two hundred percent. Your currencies

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<v Speaker 1>were zero. Half the workforce is out of work, they're

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<v Speaker 1>short on supplies, the economy is broke, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the president is factoring all of that into his thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>And for all the thought that, for all the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that he's a cowboy, he actually does have compassion. He's

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about your people, and he does not want to

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<v Speaker 1>do what they're forcing him to do. If it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be because they made it happen, not because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted that part to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely no. In you know, you're absolutely correct and every

0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.159
<v Speaker 4>aspect whatever you said, you know, it's just right onto

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<v Speaker 4>the teach that you mentioned that you know they're losing

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<v Speaker 4>money on a daily basis, which majority of it would

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<v Speaker 4>not have gone to regular people anyways, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>it would have been in the hands of the corrupt

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<v Speaker 4>government already. Then you mentioned that the whole world will

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<v Speaker 4>be safer if the IRGC is not there, which is

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely true. You know, like a guy who is African

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.199
<v Speaker 4>descended comes and kills people in a city of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like us in here has an IOGC flag on his shirt,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not even related to the you know, Persian people.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're absolutely correct. President Trump is one of the

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<v Speaker 4>wisest and one of the you know, like the only

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<v Speaker 4>president who actually had the safety of United States and honor.

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<v Speaker 1>But notice the difference between the Iranian military that has

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<v Speaker 1>been targeting densely populated civilian areas in Gulf States and

0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Israel and and cities like Tel Aviv and what is

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<v Speaker 1>what is what is Israel? What is the US been

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<v Speaker 1>targeting military targets. They've not gone after the people they

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because we value human life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he could go full on Sherman esque here and wipe

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 1>them out if he wants to, And that option still

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<v Speaker 1>on the table, and it may end it may end

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<v Speaker 1>up that way. I'm hoping for a negotiated settlement myself.

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<v Speaker 1>My hopes are somewhat diminished, but you know, I'm managing expectations,

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<v Speaker 1>hoping for the best, expecting the worst.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely well. I mean, honestly, we don't think these people

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<v Speaker 4>are anywhere, you know, in their right mind to do

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<v Speaker 4>the negotiation. And frankly, honestly, what I'm afraid of is

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<v Speaker 4>the periods of pease fires is giving them to do

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<v Speaker 4>something really really crazy, you know, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you know, like perfecting something that is kind of

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.600
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the work. I don't really know

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<v Speaker 4>how to express it without you know, just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but I think I just don't want it

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<v Speaker 4>to be a time for them to be I totally

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<v Speaker 4>understand that President needs to take the steps the way

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<v Speaker 4>that he is because you know, of his people the

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<v Speaker 4>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand this is very personal for you, and I

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<v Speaker 1>pray for you and your family and the people of Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>America has no beef for the people of Iran. We

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.879
<v Speaker 1>want the people to be free. But it's really going

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<v Speaker 1>to be up to the so called radical leaders whether

0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>or not they want this piece steal or not'll they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it the easy way, they'll do it the hard

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<v Speaker 1>way anyway, Susan, We appreciate your insight. Thanks for being

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Right back, we'll continue more of your call

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<v Speaker 1>straight ahead. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn our number

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<v Speaker 1>right back for our busy phones. Eight hundred ninety four one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Kevin is in my free state of Florida. Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you glad you called?

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<v Speaker 2>Sir?

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<v Speaker 5>Doing great? Sean, thank you for all you do. And

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<v Speaker 5>I loved listening to Susan. The perspective that she had

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<v Speaker 5>was enlightening, but it was understandable. But what I think,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I listen every day to you guys. I

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<v Speaker 5>love you guys, and I support our president and our military.

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<v Speaker 5>I love them dearly, the greatest in the world. But

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't think negotiating with these types of people

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<v Speaker 5>is going to do. The only negotiation that would work,

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<v Speaker 5>and it wouldn't work is complete surrender, like Japan surrendered.

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<v Speaker 5>It was over. Like Mikyle Gobechev tried, Uncle, it was over.

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<v Speaker 5>These are different people. They're lying, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>they'll there's suicide bombers. They run ships into the USS

0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 5>coal and killed thirteen sailors and no one teams have

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 5>mentioned they're murdering. They'll cut your head off. These are really,

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 5>really bad people, and this is a fight between good

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<v Speaker 5>and evil.

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<v Speaker 1>The leadership is evil, the people are not evil. The

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 1>people are victims themselves, and there's an over ninety million

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 1>of them. You know, as the President told me very

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<v Speaker 1>clearly last night, he can at any time he can

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<v Speaker 1>wipe them out, meaning wipe out the regime, their economy,

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<v Speaker 1>all of the above, and they'll have no means of

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<v Speaker 1>really recovering at that point. Actually, the safer option is

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, the option that would be most effective

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<v Speaker 1>in preventing them from ever reconstituting the nuclear program, the

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<v Speaker 1>ballistic missile program. They won't be able to do it

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't have an economy. That would be the

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:53.439
<v Speaker 1>safest option. The best option, however, are we're really going

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<v Speaker 1>to fault the president for thinking about the fate of

0:23:57.320 --> 0:24:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the Iranian people. I really can't fault for that. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet the media would portray that as weakness. I don't

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:07.119
<v Speaker 1>portray that as weakness. This military operation that we're talking

0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.920
<v Speaker 1>about can be over in about fifteen minutes. The straits

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:12.360
<v Speaker 1>is a little more complicated, but that part of it

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>can be over in no time. Their economy can be destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can entomb the uranium if they're not

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>going to give it to you, and keep buys on

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 1>it and go back and just fire missiles and just

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<v Speaker 1>destroy anybody that ever attempted to get it. That would

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>take future presidents, which I don't depend on. All of

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>those options remain, but you can't faulter for that, can you.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not fulking him into a lot of presidents. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>He's the strongest president. He's far from weak. No, it's

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<v Speaker 5>the Iranian people.

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<v Speaker 3>No love them.

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<v Speaker 4>That Susan was shared how.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful they are, and I know they are.

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<v Speaker 5>There's probably one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand bad

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<v Speaker 5>guys in Iran. I know it's nothing's easy and it's difficult,

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 5>and life is precious. Like Susan said, I mean, people

0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 5>are beautiful, but there's there's a hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, even evil people at some point can be practical.

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<v Speaker 1>They've not shown a propensity to lean that way up

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<v Speaker 1>to this point, but they've given one last life line

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<v Speaker 1>if they if they choose to, for them, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be to come back to fight in another day. The

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<v Speaker 1>easier choice, the long term, greater national security benefit, would

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<v Speaker 1>be from bombing them. However, innocent people are impacted by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand the President's thinking completely. Anyone that's telling you

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<v Speaker 1>any different than what I have just discussed this half

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<v Speaker 1>hour is just frankly outright lying to you, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm just giving you the real scoop where

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<v Speaker 1>the president is, where we are. Ultimately, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to come to a conclusion I pray for the negotiated settlement.

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<v Speaker 1>Pray for the best, but expect the worst.