Speaker 1: An hour two Sean Hannity Show told for you. It's
Speaker 1: eight hundred nine poot one, Shawn, you want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the program. I am captivated by this story,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually extremely concerned about it, as is James
Speaker 1: camer the head of the very important House Overside Committee,
Speaker 1: as are people in law enforcement that I'm talking to.
Speaker 1: And what am I talking about? The eleven American Nuclear
Speaker 1: Space Link scientists that have either disappeared or died under
Speaker 1: very mysterious circumstances, all within the last four years, and
Speaker 1: now both the FBI and the House Overside Committee are
Speaker 1: investigating this string of mysteries. Nancy Grace, I think, says
Speaker 1: it very well. And she has devoted her entire life
Speaker 1: as a prosecutor, as a victim of crime, and as
Speaker 1: a victim advocate, looking into cases deep and wide, and
Speaker 1: she basically says, Okay, one person goes missing, that's an
Speaker 1: isolated incident. If two happens, that would be a coincidence.
Speaker 1: If you have more than three, in this case, eleven
Speaker 1: over a period of four years, that is a pattern
Speaker 1: you are very honored to have back on the program.
Speaker 1: Nicole Parker, author of the two fbis the bravery, the
Speaker 1: betrayal I saw in my time at the bureau. Nancy
Speaker 1: Grace Crime Stories with Nancy Grace and on Fox One.
Speaker 1: Welcome both of you back to the program. Nancy Grace,
Speaker 1: let's start with you. One is an isolated incident. Two
Speaker 1: is a coincidence. We have eleven What do we call that?
Speaker 2: We call that a pattern that is borne out by
Speaker 2: all my years of investigating and prosecuting repeat felonies, serial killers,
Speaker 2: serial rapists, serial childlin station, serial arson, which is very
Speaker 2: difficult to produce, Sean. In preparation for talking with you
Speaker 2: and Nicole today, I had the opportunity to speak to
Speaker 2: a former British intelligence officer, Frank Milburn, who knew Amy
Speaker 2: Eskridge very well. She is one of the scientists. She
Speaker 2: in particular was working on anti gravity jet propulsion. And
Speaker 2: what is that? Okay, as a trial lawyer, I never
Speaker 2: had to with anti gravity jet propulsion. But what it
Speaker 2: is is when an aircraft, be it a plane or
Speaker 2: any other aircraft can go up down, side to side
Speaker 2: to diagonal directions and faster than anything with which we
Speaker 2: are familiar, it's real anti gravity jet propulsion. Imagine how
Speaker 2: lucrative that would be to one of our enemies or
Speaker 2: another corporation. Long story short Estace was working on that
Speaker 2: before she was found dead from a self allegedly self
Speaker 2: inflated gunshot went into the head in Hustle, Alabama, where
Speaker 2: as you know the NASA, one of the NASA centers.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's Rocket City. I lived there for two years.
Speaker 1: I broadcast there for two years, and I know it
Speaker 1: really really well, Redstone Arsenal, Rocket City, USA, I mean
Speaker 1: well known for some of the most brilliant scientists in
Speaker 1: the world. And yeah, they're claiming that this death was
Speaker 1: ruled by suicide. In any of the cases of any
Speaker 1: of the eleven, did we ever have an autopsy some.
Speaker 2: Of them, for instance, hers was ruled a suicide. But
Speaker 2: Milburn tells me, and he is a former British intelligence officer,
Speaker 2: in the last hours, that he had a very long
Speaker 2: correspondence with her. He knew her very very well. They
Speaker 2: were friends, and shortly before her death she said, listen,
Speaker 2: if I'm found dead, I did not commit suicide, no
Speaker 2: matter what they tell you know that, and you've got
Speaker 2: to take my information and make it public. I find
Speaker 2: that very probative. And not only that, Sean since you
Speaker 2: and I last spoke last night, I've delved into the
Speaker 2: facts of the various disappearances, and five of them seemingly
Speaker 2: walk away from their home with no identification, no tracking
Speaker 2: devices such as a smartphone, a cell phone, nothing. They
Speaker 2: walk away and are never seen again. Most striking is
Speaker 2: a woman who walks away, has just taken her daughter
Speaker 2: a subway sandwich. And I know that you know I'm
Speaker 2: referring to Melissic Seas she takes her daughter lunch, says
Speaker 2: I'm working from home today. At two o'clock, he's on
Speaker 2: surveillance video walking by foot in the heat of the
Speaker 2: day in New Mexico. She vanishes and is never seen again.
Speaker 2: Both her sales.
Speaker 1: This is in Los Alamos. She worked in the National
Speaker 1: Lab Administration. She was an assistant there.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, she walks away and when the police get there,
Speaker 2: when her daughter calls her mom missing, both her sales
Speaker 2: on work and home work and personal have been wiped
Speaker 2: plain factory recent Oh that's Nicole.
Speaker 1: That's just a mere coincidence, right.
Speaker 3: I've been very closely listening to Nancy's orders and I agree.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just something in all of these. You
Speaker 3: can look at them each individually, but when you look
Speaker 3: at them together and you do see these patterns, it
Speaker 3: is a reason for law enforcement to take this very seriously,
Speaker 3: and so any type of investigation of this nature is
Speaker 3: always going to be a serious concern for our national security.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously, right now the FBI has not released
Speaker 3: any concrete evidence of a coordinated plot putting them together,
Speaker 3: but we are always looking sean for espionage, any involvement
Speaker 3: of a hostile foreign intelligence service group being involved. And
Speaker 3: that's exactly why you've got multiple departments. You've got the FBI,
Speaker 3: you've got the Department of Energy, you've got the Department
Speaker 3: of War, got NASA, and they are going to be
Speaker 3: linking up with the state and local law enforcement departments
Speaker 3: to determine each individual case because as we know, the
Speaker 3: jurisdiction for each individual case is with the locals, that
Speaker 3: they will be looking at it cumulatively to see if
Speaker 3: there are any patterns and getting to the bottom of this.
Speaker 3: Every single individual involved, they were doing extremely sensitive work
Speaker 3: with nuclear weapons, aerospace, defense technology, and they were in
Speaker 3: serious competition. We know that people want our information, they
Speaker 3: want our technology. We are in competition with China, Russia, Iran,
Speaker 3: and they will go to all links who stopped individuals
Speaker 3: I believe potentially from releasing that information and from America
Speaker 3: being umber one in each of those categories. So I
Speaker 3: also think it's important to again look at the facts
Speaker 3: and the evidence. It could be very easy to look
Speaker 3: and say, you know, oh this is you know, these
Speaker 3: are all linked and there's stoul play involved. I personally am.
Speaker 3: You know. There's two individuals, in particular the scientist from MIT.
Speaker 3: We know that he Larrero. We know that he was
Speaker 3: killed by the same individual that did the Brown University
Speaker 3: mass shooting. Okay, that was back in December of twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. We know that he went for Brown University
Speaker 3: and then went up north to his home in Brooklyne, Massachusetts,
Speaker 3: and he was shot and killed at his home. We
Speaker 3: know that he was a former classmate of his, but
Speaker 3: we don't ever know the exact motive because he is
Speaker 3: now dead. Okay. We also know that there was another
Speaker 3: scientist from cal Tech who was also killed. That was
Speaker 3: Carl Grillmer. He was killed on his front porch by
Speaker 3: an individual in rural California and around you know, early
Speaker 3: in the morning. And this person, Snyder, has been arrested
Speaker 3: and charged with his murder. Is the motive yet determined? No,
Speaker 3: But it is important to note that that same individual
Speaker 3: had they had received a call from Carl in a
Speaker 3: couple of months earlier saying that this individual had been
Speaker 3: trespassing on his property. So this is the same individual
Speaker 3: that had been previously trespassing and then goes on to
Speaker 3: kill him on his front porch.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Again you have to note.
Speaker 3: That person had also been charged and been looked into
Speaker 3: it for a carjacking that same day. But again, you
Speaker 3: look at the different patterns and I think one that really,
Speaker 3: I mean, they all are quite alarming to me. But
Speaker 3: you know, Nancy brings up a very good point the
Speaker 3: Amy Eskridge. There's a lot of information on her, and
Speaker 3: you know, they say it was an alleged suicide, but
Speaker 3: there are specific details that I too, have you know,
Speaker 3: looked into that I think is very odd. She did
Speaker 3: a YouTube interview back in twenty twenty, and she was
Speaker 3: saying things like, quote, if you stick your neck out
Speaker 3: in public, at least someone notices if your head gets
Speaker 3: top off. If you stick your neck out in private,
Speaker 3: they will bury you. They will burn down your house.
Speaker 3: While you're sleeping in your bed and it won't even
Speaker 3: make the news. I have to publish because it's going
Speaker 3: to get worse until I publish. And she was talking
Speaker 3: about how threats against her were becoming more and more aggressive.
Speaker 3: You cannot turn a blind eye to that and say, oh,
Speaker 3: that's just a mere coincidence, okay. And then you look
Speaker 3: at other individuals. The woman who was hiking Monica Raza
Speaker 3: in California, I think that one is extremely odd. She's
Speaker 3: hiking with her friends in the Angelus National Park and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, she just disappears. Her friend sees
Speaker 3: her about thirty feet away. She turns around, looks again.
Speaker 3: Gone sean, nowhere to be found. And they did searches,
Speaker 3: they did surveillance, they did everything, Rod and canines nothing.
Speaker 3: She just vami.
Speaker 1: We don't help ourselves as a country when we have
Speaker 1: wide open borders and you have twelve plus million people,
Speaker 1: including known terror murderers, rapist, child molesters, cartel members, gang
Speaker 1: members allowed another country and the country gets lied to
Speaker 1: for four years. And the other dumb thing that we
Speaker 1: do is we allow Chinese nationals. They've been gobbling up ranchland,
Speaker 1: farmland and land near military installations. Now for decades, I
Speaker 1: doubt President she in China would allow me to buy
Speaker 1: any land their military installations. Let me go back to
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace for a second. There is a nexus point
Speaker 1: with a number of the people here with retired Air
Speaker 1: Force Major General William Neil McCasland. And he's been missing,
Speaker 1: by the way, since February of this year. Number of
Speaker 1: the other people that are gone are connected to him.
Speaker 2: Yes they are. Sean mchaslin goes missing two twenty nine,
Speaker 2: twenty six, and he goes missing in under an hour.
Speaker 2: Now what is the significant He was the senior official,
Speaker 2: he commanded the Air Force research lab. He's a senior Pentagon.
Speaker 2: He is spotted by his wife and a repairman at
Speaker 2: eleven ten am. Wife goes to hear salon comes back
Speaker 2: twelve oh four. He's gone. He leaves on foot, just
Speaker 2: like four others did from his home. Leaves behind phones, electronics, smartwatch,
Speaker 2: prescription glasses. He takes hiking boots and a thirty eight. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Shortly thereafter, the only thing to identify him as US
Speaker 2: is an USAF sweat shirt that was found on the roadside. Now, interesting,
Speaker 2: you and I have been through a lot on Guthries
Speaker 2: where Nanos the Peva County Sheriff would not allow the
Speaker 2: FEDS into the investigation until they had basically botched it
Speaker 2: beyond repair. Then the FEDS come in and try to
Speaker 2: clean it all up. In this case, I have learned
Speaker 2: that the FBI has jumped on Macastle's disappearance in March uninvited.
Speaker 2: Now why would that be and attached to mccawslon as
Speaker 2: you accurately pointed out. Garcia disappears from New Mexico, Albuquerque.
Speaker 2: Melissa Cassias, the mom I just told you about. She
Speaker 2: was from Elmos, Monica. Jscinto reisas that you were just
Speaker 2: hearing about that vanished on the hiking trail. Anthony Chavez
Speaker 2: leaves behind Keith car wallet phone. He is from Los
Speaker 2: Alamos as well. They're all connected to McCaslin in one
Speaker 2: way or the other.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break, we'll come back more on these
Speaker 1: eleven missing scientists. Beyond suspicious in my mind. We'll continue
Speaker 1: more with Nancy Grayson Nicole Parker on the other side
Speaker 1: than your calls coming up eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the programm
Speaker 1: as we continue. All right, let's get to our busy telephones.
Speaker 1: We have Susan in the great state of Texas. Susan,
Speaker 1: glad you called God blessed Texas. Thanks for checking in.
Speaker 4: Hello, miss Snaty, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm very good, Thank you for calling.
Speaker 4: I am a great, a long time listener, first time
Speaker 4: color I was going to wade into the war United States.
Speaker 4: I'm Iranian born, American citizen, been here for almost thirty
Speaker 4: six years, so it.
Speaker 1: Was a great Did you grow did your formative years?
Speaker 1: Did you grow up in Iran?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I came to the United States when I
Speaker 4: was eighteen, and then I got married, my children here,
Speaker 4: and you know, we stayed here, unfortunately not being able
Speaker 4: to go back.
Speaker 1: So well, let me ask you. How old were you
Speaker 1: during the time of the revolution in seventy nine.
Speaker 4: I was born in seventy one, so I was about
Speaker 4: six years old. I was there till eighteenth and then
Speaker 4: I'm you know, like left the country, came to the
Speaker 4: United States.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so sad to me because the Persian
Speaker 1: people in Iran have such a rich culture and the
Speaker 1: contributions to humanity over the many, many centuries. Is unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and they have been oppressed now for forty seven years.
Speaker 1: Now they're being slaughtered and thank god the president was
Speaker 1: able to apparently get a reprieve for these young women
Speaker 1: that were scheduled to be hung. And I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: that is real and hopefully we'll see an end to
Speaker 1: this conflict. There's going to be an end one way
Speaker 1: or the other, but anyway, I'd love to hear your perspective.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for saying that. You know,
Speaker 4: we're so grateful for your support for a lot of
Speaker 4: people that are absolutely you know, are on our side.
Speaker 4: I know everybody has their you know, different opinion, different
Speaker 4: politics views, but everything, you know, we really know that.
Speaker 4: You know, President Trump is a wonderful, if one of
Speaker 4: the best presidents for the United States, having you know,
Speaker 4: United States best interests at heart. So if people come
Speaker 4: to us and say, oh, you think, you know, like
Speaker 4: Israel or United States are just you know, worrying about
Speaker 4: people in Iran, absolutely not that there is no other way.
Speaker 4: There is absolutely zero way that we could have gotten
Speaker 4: where we are right now without the intervention of the
Speaker 4: United States, and you know, but the help of Israel.
Speaker 4: You you know, people, What people don't realize shanity is
Speaker 4: is just people with just people know nothing against armed
Speaker 4: forces in Iran. They are not Iranian, they're not Persian.
Speaker 4: They're not afraid of killing people. They don't have any
Speaker 4: values for anyone. And quite frankly, I don't really think this,
Speaker 4: you know, peace, you know, cease fires or these times
Speaker 4: is going to change anything. They've never been truthful, they've
Speaker 4: never been had you know, having any you know, any
Speaker 4: of the people's good on their mind. And also I
Speaker 4: was listening to your show last night. One of the
Speaker 4: young American people was asking you. I was wondering if
Speaker 4: you know, with continuing the war, uh Iranian people in
Speaker 4: the United States are going to be mad. Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: I mean we have been asking for this, we have
Speaker 4: been praying for this. We are you know, like Iran
Speaker 4: has is one of the richest countries in you know,
Speaker 4: in in planet, and everybody knows that, but unfortunately it
Speaker 4: has the poorest population that anybody you know could imagine
Speaker 4: the you know, the kids, the children, and it's not
Speaker 4: any difference from that, you know, like right now everything
Speaker 4: is super expensive, super rare. You know, people are having
Speaker 4: a hard time living. Of course, it's a lot worse.
Speaker 4: After the war started. All of my family is in Iran.
Speaker 4: I just want to tell you that that there the
Speaker 4: three you know, the we are three siblings, my parents,
Speaker 4: my nephews, everybody is in Iran. I am the only
Speaker 4: one residing in the United States. So if I say that,
Speaker 4: it's not that you know, I see both wolves. I
Speaker 4: see United States and the great benefit and the great
Speaker 4: life that has given me and my children. And you
Speaker 4: know here and also what I have in Iran, you
Speaker 4: know directly from the family that I hear. So life
Speaker 4: is very difficult.
Speaker 1: You know, things are not Let me add some context
Speaker 1: for you, Susan, because unlike a lot of people, they
Speaker 1: don't have the sources that I have. And I even
Speaker 1: spoke to the president directly last night, and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to share the majority of the contents of that conversation.
Speaker 1: And there are people that would would foolishly interpret the
Speaker 1: president extending the ceasefire to mean that he's unwilling to
Speaker 1: do whatever is necessary to win this conflict and this war.
Speaker 1: The president has the ability, probably within fifteen minutes, to
Speaker 1: destroy the economy of Iran. The president, there are two
Speaker 1: things that appealed to him in extending this, and they
Speaker 1: put a timeline on it. But I knew this timeline
Speaker 1: last night. I only reference that there was. It's going
Speaker 1: to be short lived, and it's three to five days.
Speaker 1: And part of the problem is that the Iranians cannot communicate.
Speaker 1: As I said in the last hour, they cannot communicate
Speaker 1: with each other because they if they ever got on
Speaker 1: a cell phone, if it even worked, the problem would
Speaker 1: be that they feared that their location would be given
Speaker 1: up and they'd be dead. So there is a communication
Speaker 1: problem between the hard line IRGC and those that understand
Speaker 1: the handwriting is on the wall and are more more
Speaker 1: inclined to do a deal with the president. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that that is partly real. But the president is the
Speaker 1: one thing I will tell you he said to me
Speaker 1: directly last night. He said, Sean, I can bomb them anytime.
Speaker 1: It's not that's not the issue. We have re armed
Speaker 1: and we have built up our military presidence even larger
Speaker 1: than before epic fury. He goes after he was appealed
Speaker 1: to by the Prime Minister of Pakistan himself, and after
Speaker 1: taking into account the impact on your your family and
Speaker 1: the Persian people and the people in Iran. He has
Speaker 1: decided to give this, you know, every every last opportunity
Speaker 1: to end with a peaceful agreement, a negotiated settlement. That's
Speaker 1: where this is coming from. And the media would have
Speaker 1: you think, oh, this is we he's failing, he's not
Speaker 1: in control. The blockade is preventing the Iranians from from
Speaker 1: an income of five hundred million dollars a day. And
Speaker 1: when you read as there were reports, oh, all these
Speaker 1: twenty six ships got through and Chris Murphy is all
Speaker 1: celebrating this, it wasn't true. It's not true. Not one
Speaker 1: ship has gotten through. The blockade has been one hundred
Speaker 1: percent successful. It's a matter. I know people had that
Speaker 1: their attention span is about as short as a gnat.
Speaker 1: And the President is trying to thread the needle between
Speaker 1: doing what we need to do militarily to keep the
Speaker 1: world a better, safer place for our children and grandchildren,
Speaker 1: to do as little damage to the Iranian people, because
Speaker 1: the easy way would be to just bomb out their economy.
Speaker 1: That's an easy decision. But I hate to tell you,
Speaker 1: Susan people like your family and other families, Iranian families,
Speaker 1: you know, we have one hundred and eighty percent in
Speaker 1: plation rate now one to two hundred percent. Your currencies
Speaker 1: were zero. Half the workforce is out of work, they're
Speaker 1: short on supplies, the economy is broke, and so you know,
Speaker 1: the president is factoring all of that into his thinking.
Speaker 1: And for all the thought that, for all the narrative
Speaker 1: that he's a cowboy, he actually does have compassion. He's
Speaker 1: thinking about your people, and he does not want to
Speaker 1: do what they're forcing him to do. If it happens,
Speaker 1: it'll be because they made it happen, not because he
Speaker 1: wanted that part to happen.
Speaker 4: Absolutely no. In you know, you're absolutely correct and every
Speaker 4: aspect whatever you said, you know, it's just right onto
Speaker 4: the teach that you mentioned that you know they're losing
Speaker 4: money on a daily basis, which majority of it would
Speaker 4: not have gone to regular people anyways, you know, like
Speaker 4: it would have been in the hands of the corrupt
Speaker 4: government already. Then you mentioned that the whole world will
Speaker 4: be safer if the IRGC is not there, which is
Speaker 4: absolutely true. You know, like a guy who is African
Speaker 4: descended comes and kills people in a city of you know,
Speaker 4: like us in here has an IOGC flag on his shirt,
Speaker 4: which is not even related to the you know, Persian people.
Speaker 4: So you're absolutely correct. President Trump is one of the
Speaker 4: wisest and one of the you know, like the only
Speaker 4: president who actually had the safety of United States and honor.
Speaker 1: But notice the difference between the Iranian military that has
Speaker 1: been targeting densely populated civilian areas in Gulf States and
Speaker 1: Israel and and cities like Tel Aviv and what is
Speaker 1: what is what is Israel? What is the US been
Speaker 1: targeting military targets. They've not gone after the people they
Speaker 1: you know, because we value human life. And you know,
Speaker 1: he could go full on Sherman esque here and wipe
Speaker 1: them out if he wants to, And that option still
Speaker 1: on the table, and it may end it may end
Speaker 1: up that way. I'm hoping for a negotiated settlement myself.
Speaker 1: My hopes are somewhat diminished, but you know, I'm managing expectations,
Speaker 1: hoping for the best, expecting the worst.
Speaker 4: Absolutely well. I mean, honestly, we don't think these people
Speaker 4: are anywhere, you know, in their right mind to do
Speaker 4: the negotiation. And frankly, honestly, what I'm afraid of is
Speaker 4: the periods of pease fires is giving them to do
Speaker 4: something really really crazy, you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe you know, like perfecting something that is kind of
Speaker 4: in the middle of the work. I don't really know
Speaker 4: how to express it without you know, just kind of
Speaker 4: you know, but I think I just don't want it
Speaker 4: to be a time for them to be I totally
Speaker 4: understand that President needs to take the steps the way
Speaker 4: that he is because you know, of his people the
Speaker 4: United States.
Speaker 1: I understand this is very personal for you, and I
Speaker 1: pray for you and your family and the people of Iran.
Speaker 1: America has no beef for the people of Iran. We
Speaker 1: want the people to be free. But it's really going
Speaker 1: to be up to the so called radical leaders whether
Speaker 1: or not they want this piece steal or not'll they'll
Speaker 1: do it the easy way, they'll do it the hard
Speaker 1: way anyway, Susan, We appreciate your insight. Thanks for being
Speaker 1: with us. Right back, we'll continue more of your call
Speaker 1: straight ahead. Eight hundred ninety four one, Shawn our number
Speaker 1: right back for our busy phones. Eight hundred ninety four one.
Speaker 1: Sean Kevin is in my free state of Florida. Kevin,
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 5: Doing great? Sean, thank you for all you do. And
Speaker 5: I loved listening to Susan. The perspective that she had
Speaker 5: was enlightening, but it was understandable. But what I think,
Speaker 5: you know, I listen every day to you guys. I
Speaker 5: love you guys, and I support our president and our military.
Speaker 5: I love them dearly, the greatest in the world. But
Speaker 5: I just don't think negotiating with these types of people
Speaker 5: is going to do. The only negotiation that would work,
Speaker 5: and it wouldn't work is complete surrender, like Japan surrendered.
Speaker 5: It was over. Like Mikyle Gobechev tried, Uncle, it was over.
Speaker 5: These are different people. They're lying, and like you said,
Speaker 5: they'll there's suicide bombers. They run ships into the USS
Speaker 5: coal and killed thirteen sailors and no one teams have
Speaker 5: mentioned they're murdering. They'll cut your head off. These are really,
Speaker 5: really bad people, and this is a fight between good
Speaker 5: and evil.
Speaker 1: The leadership is evil, the people are not evil. The
Speaker 1: people are victims themselves, and there's an over ninety million
Speaker 1: of them. You know, as the President told me very
Speaker 1: clearly last night, he can at any time he can
Speaker 1: wipe them out, meaning wipe out the regime, their economy,
Speaker 1: all of the above, and they'll have no means of
Speaker 1: really recovering at that point. Actually, the safer option is
Speaker 1: to do that, the option that would be most effective
Speaker 1: in preventing them from ever reconstituting the nuclear program, the
Speaker 1: ballistic missile program. They won't be able to do it
Speaker 1: if they don't have an economy. That would be the
Speaker 1: safest option. The best option, however, are we're really going
Speaker 1: to fault the president for thinking about the fate of
Speaker 1: the Iranian people. I really can't fault for that. And
Speaker 1: yet the media would portray that as weakness. I don't
Speaker 1: portray that as weakness. This military operation that we're talking
Speaker 1: about can be over in about fifteen minutes. The straits
Speaker 1: is a little more complicated, but that part of it
Speaker 1: can be over in no time. Their economy can be destroyed.
Speaker 1: You know, you can entomb the uranium if they're not
Speaker 1: going to give it to you, and keep buys on
Speaker 1: it and go back and just fire missiles and just
Speaker 1: destroy anybody that ever attempted to get it. That would
Speaker 1: take future presidents, which I don't depend on. All of
Speaker 1: those options remain, but you can't faulter for that, can you.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not fulking him into a lot of presidents. Nothing.
Speaker 5: He's the strongest president. He's far from weak. No, it's
Speaker 5: the Iranian people.
Speaker 3: No love them.
Speaker 4: That Susan was shared how.
Speaker 1: Beautiful they are, and I know they are.
Speaker 5: There's probably one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand bad
Speaker 5: guys in Iran. I know it's nothing's easy and it's difficult,
Speaker 5: and life is precious. Like Susan said, I mean, people
Speaker 5: are beautiful, but there's there's a hunt.
Speaker 1: You know, even evil people at some point can be practical.
Speaker 1: They've not shown a propensity to lean that way up
Speaker 1: to this point, but they've given one last life line
Speaker 1: if they if they choose to, for them, it would
Speaker 1: be to come back to fight in another day. The
Speaker 1: easier choice, the long term, greater national security benefit, would
Speaker 1: be from bombing them. However, innocent people are impacted by that.
Speaker 1: I understand the President's thinking completely. Anyone that's telling you
Speaker 1: any different than what I have just discussed this half
Speaker 1: hour is just frankly outright lying to you, and they
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just giving you the real scoop where
Speaker 1: the president is, where we are. Ultimately, this is going
Speaker 1: to come to a conclusion I pray for the negotiated settlement.
Speaker 1: Pray for the best, but expect the worst.