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Speaker 1: We're talking SEC. Go back and listen to parts one

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Speaker 1: and two. Part one was bigger picture stuff. We talked

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Speaker 1: about our contender tiers. Part two we broke down eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I've gotten a second win now,

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Speaker 1: getting through good two episodes of the SEC, getting into

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Speaker 1: would love to thing you love, Danny. That's danger the SEC.

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Speaker 2: Business as usual? Business is usual? Ty another year, everything

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Speaker 1: I thought that was my You didn't play it the

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Speaker 1: Listen. It is not a talent thing with Alabama. No,

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Speaker 1: Kaleibor is not Nick Saban. He's never gonna be. But

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, yeah, I know, I get it, But

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm really interested to see what Jalen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if that system works with Jalen Milroe.

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Speaker 2: Well, how would you. You've never seen him try.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've never seen him try, and so I'm I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: Milroe is not a precision passer. He threw a great

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Speaker 2: potential for danger. Considering the upside on Alabama's schedule offensively, Offensively,

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Speaker 2: Along with what Nick Sheridan and JaMarcus Shephard, the receivers

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Speaker 1: got Jeff Lebby, the offensive coordinator, who is now gone.

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Speaker 1: And on the other, you talked to Oklahoma fans from

431
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Speaker 1: last year, they're glad he's gone. They were sick of

432
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Speaker 1: Jeff Lebby last year. They were tired of what they perceived,

433
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Speaker 1: excuse me as some predictable play calling and not doing

434
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: enough with the talent on James. Yeah, and so the

435
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Speaker 1: flip side is at Seth Latrell, friend of the show,

436
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Speaker 1: Seth Latrell now calling the plays Okay. On one hand,

437
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: he got a defense that's third in returning production nine

438
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Speaker 1: starters back poised I think to be one of the

439
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: better defenses in the country. On the other, Oklahoma's got

440
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Speaker 1: the third toughest schedule in the country, and that includes

441
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Speaker 1: games against Tennessee and Texas and Ole miss and Miszoo

442
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Speaker 1: and Alabama and LSU, among others. So there's just a

443
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: lot like clashing there, and I don't know what to

444
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Speaker 1: think about it.

445
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Speaker 2: Didn't even mention the main Black Bears thrown in there.

446
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Speaker 1: Didn't even mention the main Black Bears, and they're terrifying.

447
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: Bear mascot is a bear mascot, Yeah, terrifying. It looks

448
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: like a bat, not even a bear. My thing personally

449
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: is this. I really like Jackson Arnold. I think he's

450
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: worth the hype. He's very young. You can look at

451
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Speaker 1: the stats from a year ago and you could say,

452
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: all right, he was decent. But I recall vividly talking

453
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Speaker 1: to Oklahoma fans, going and doing research from team sites

454
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: to guys who break down the film. Across the board,

455
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: people were heralding what they saw out of Jackson Arnold

456
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Speaker 1: from a processing standpoint. Maybe the numbers weren't there. He

457
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: only got limited action, but his ability to see the

458
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: field and break down the field and make plays was

459
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Speaker 1: really impressive even in limited action. So when he came

460
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Speaker 1: in again in limited action filled in for Dylan Gabriel

461
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Speaker 1: when he was down, I think we saw enough to

462
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Speaker 1: feel good about him getting this role on a full

463
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Speaker 1: time basis and it not being too much for him,

464
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Speaker 1: which would be very easy to do going against a

465
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Speaker 1: schedule like this into a bigger conference like this or

466
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Speaker 1: a more prominent conference like the SEC. So I feel

467
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Speaker 1: good about that. I like Seth Latrell calling the plays.

468
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to build something that doesn't put

469
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Speaker 1: it all on a young quarterback, that offers some balance.

470
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Speaker 1: The line is the question mark, but if you're going

471
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Speaker 1: to turn a line over to anybody, Bill Bendenbach kind

472
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Speaker 1: of has a reputation for piecing together a line. It's

473
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: just what the guy does. He's like a line soothsayer.

474
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Speaker 1: He's going to figure it out before long. I feel

475
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: okay about that, sure, And if we're going back to

476
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Speaker 1: the wise profit Ashanti, yeah, I trust Brent Vvenibiles is

477
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: going to figure out how to build a defense. It

478
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 1: took a couple of years. I was terrified as all

479
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: hell about Ted Ruf being there for two of them.

480
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: But he's gone now and it seems like things are

481
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Speaker 1: trending in a very very positive direction. On the defensive

482
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Still missed too many tackles a

483
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: year ago, still gave up too many big plays. All that,

484
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: but a notable step forward that I have no reason

485
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Speaker 1: to doubt won't continue. If you look back at what

486
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: bred Venables did in his time at Clemson, granted was

487
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: not the head coach, but those defenses were absolute nails.

488
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: Those defenses absolutely could go toe to toe with SEC offenses.

489
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Speaker 1: If he can get anywhere close to that at Oklahoma

490
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Speaker 1: and his time there, or at Oklahoma this year, it'd

491
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Speaker 1: be a lot of fun to watch.

492
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Speaker 2: They had very little in the way of a pass

493
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: rush last year. They took a nice step forward as

494
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: a defense, but that was the big thing last year

495
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: that if you're not able to get to the quarterback

496
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: this year, that's a problem. This schedule problem a huge problem.

497
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: And then not starting over, but looking to to find

498
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Speaker 2: a rhythm on offense with a new quarterback and a

499
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: rebuilt line, you can understand why the number is where

500
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: it is that there's skepticism about so much coming together

501
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: with a more difficult schedule. This is a team that

502
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: struggled with UCF last year, lost to Kansas, lost to

503
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, a pretty good Oklahoma State team. But Oklahoma

504
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 2: had probably a better quarterback than everybody on their schedule

505
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: last year, maybe with the exception of Texas, and I

506
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: want to say Dylan Gabriel had a better game than

507
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: Quinn yours in that game. So Oklahoma was able to

508
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: get by BYU was able to get by some of

509
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Speaker 2: these games, but didn't fully establish itself. And I think

510
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: the same is true of Texas in some regard. Sure,

511
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: oh he established itself as we have figured out this conference.

512
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: Oklahoma didn't make the Big Twelve championship game last year.

513
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: That's where the concern lies now that like you're taking

514
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: the best part or the some of the better parts

515
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: of last year's team on offense, removing them and introducing

516
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: a tougher schedule.

517
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Speaker 1: No, I look, Oklahoma will not win ten games this

518
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: season like they did last right, but I genuinely believe

519
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: they will be a better team than last year. Okay,

520
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: it's just the schedule. The schedule kind of negates some

521
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: of that. I also don't think they're a seven and

522
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: five team, you know, the over unders five or seven

523
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: and a half. Excuse me, seven point five. I'd be

524
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: inclined to go over on that. I'm not throwing it in.

525
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Speaker 1: Take a toa I'm not that sure of it.

526
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to be down on somebody in the SEC.

527
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: I guess you're down on Arkansas and mister Sander Belts.

528
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not throwing a lot in the volcano right

529
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: doing this SEC preview because frankly, there are a bunch

530
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: of teams that I feel very conflicted on and Oklahoma's

531
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Speaker 1: one of them, and Oklahoma is chief among them. I

532
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: be inclined to go over on that number. I think

533
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Speaker 1: they're eight and four. Wow, all things really break in

534
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: their direction, like you could squint and find a way

535
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: to nine and three. I'm not there with it, but

536
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Speaker 1: I'm optimistic that the defense is going to take another

537
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: step forward, and I think, separate from the offense, which

538
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Speaker 1: has I think a lot to be excited about, maybe

539
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: separate from the line. The defense is what drives this

540
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Speaker 1: campaign for Oklahoma this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the question. Then, if either Auburn or

542
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Speaker 2: South Carolina are decent. It's really tough to find eight

543
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: wins here. I know, I know it is because that

544
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: final basically after the first month of the season. It's

545
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Speaker 2: kind of every week and I always, of course include

546
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Speaker 2: the main Black Bears, But like it is, week after

547
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: week after week after week on this schedule.

548
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Speaker 1: It's tough. It's tough.

549
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Speaker 2: And that's see, that's where I want depth, right, that's

550
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: where I want five good receivers. That's where I want

551
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: seven good dbats.

552
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they have it.

553
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: I know they're strong at safety, that's where I want

554
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: and they've recruited really well on the edge. Those guys

555
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: are gonna need to work out immediately this year. The

556
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: young defensive lineman. If those guys come together, if young

557
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: defensive linemen come together, this becomes a really interesting Oklahoma team.

558
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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, and even a team like a South Carolina.

559
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I can talk about them next, but yeah,

560
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: what defines decent. They might not be a Bowl caliber team.

561
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: I think they're clearly going to be on the drive

562
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: for six this year. That's sort of been the name

563
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: of the game under Shane Biemer. Yeah, even if they

564
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: lose their plucky They've always been plucky in the time

565
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Speaker 1: that Beamer's been there, and I think that's the version

566
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: of the of the game Cocks that we're going to

567
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: see this year as well. So Oklahoma's got a tester

568
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: on its hands, not just with Carolina, but with most

569
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Speaker 1: of this schedule, again, the third toughest in the country,

570
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Speaker 1: and they're fascinating to me. I don't like anytime you

571
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: go into a new conference, it's interesting, but going into

572
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: a conference like this under these circumstances, with so much

573
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: more difficult to schedule, is kind of cruel. But from

574
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Speaker 1: a football standpoint, from a fans standpoint, for somebody who

575
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: cares about this game, you want to see good teams

576
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: put in those situations where they're up against other quality opponents. Sure,

577
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Speaker 1: and so that's what makes it interesting. If nothing else,

578
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Speaker 1: South Carolina is that where we're going. I'm ready.

579
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, here's the good thing that. Here's

580
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: the good news about South Carolina. I think Shane Biemer

581
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: is pretty relentless as a recruiter and as somebody trying

582
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Speaker 2: to fin answers. I haven't loved his hires always, especially

583
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Speaker 2: at offensive coordinator. I think the talent is there. I

584
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: think the growth is there. I mean, Lenora Sellers has

585
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: to be good for this team to stand any chance

586
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: to improve noticeably. But I'm curious what you think in

587
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: terms of like what they need to fix, because there

588
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: were elements of this team last year and they lose

589
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: close games, but like there'll be a random week where

590
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: they're just stomped on the ground. There'll be a random

591
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: week where they just cannot touch anybody's defensive line, like

592
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: they couldn't block a soul, Like have they done enough?

593
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: Where is the concern and where am I overlooking them?

594
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Speaker 1: Well? I mean, look, the biggest question this year, as

595
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: it's been I feel for a couple of years running now,

596
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: is about whether the line can hold up beef on

597
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: offense like we've seen it far too often where this

598
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: team just gets pushed around against other SEC opponents. I

599
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be better. I think it'll improve because

600
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: they were also banged up and young a year crazy

601
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: injured last year. Yeah, and that you know that never helps.

602
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: It always kind of gets in the way. To what

603
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: degree they improve that remains to be seen. I don't

604
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: think this is going to be one of the top

605
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: units in the world. But they got to be better

606
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: than they were a year ago, and that's got to

607
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: be the concern. Frankly, that's got to be the biggest

608
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: concern where I think we overlook South Carolina five and

609
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: seven a year ago over under his five and a

610
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: half again, so Vegas expecting something in the same ballpark.

611
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: A they play hard, and I know on this show

612
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of cliche to talk about pluckiness, but Shane

613
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Biemer does just kind of find a way. He miraculously

614
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: made a Bowl in his first two seasons. Not last year.

615
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: They fell one game short, right, but he finds a

616
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Speaker 1: way to get the most out of these guys. And

617
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like the new version of Beamer Ball.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if you saw. We're

619
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Speaker 1: recording this on Tuesday, July the thirtieth, earlier this morning.

620
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Speaker 1: South Carolina trademark Beamer Ball. Oh good thing got a

621
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Speaker 1: trademark on it. So even they're steering into it. I

622
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: don't know if this means he can fire them now.

623
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but they got that now.

624
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: They're obviously part of that culture where I think it's

625
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: easy to overlook South Carolina going into the sea. In

626
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: separate from the culture, is that this will be a

627
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: different version of South Carolina that we see because Spencer

628
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Ratler's gone and the personnel that is on hand now

629
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: doesn't really support this arid out approach anymore. You're gonna

630
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: see more zone read stuff in the running game, which

631
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: definitely works better with Leonora Sellers, who's, as you mentioned,

632
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: the presumed starting quarterback, or Robbie Ashford who transferred in.

633
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Also Rocket Sanders remember him from Arkansas. He transfers over.

634
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: He was their big get in the transfer portal, might

635
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: still be the best running back in the entire conference.

636
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Speaker 1: I like the flexibility of molding this scheme more to

637
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: the players on the roster instead of trying to fit

638
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: them into something, and I think it's essential to do

639
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: that at a place like a South Carolina where bringing

640
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: the talent in certainly retaining the talent on a year

641
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: over year basis can be a real challenge in the

642
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: era of the portal yep. So I like that approach

643
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: that they are taking with this offense, and it will look,

644
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: I think, very different. The other thing that I think

645
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: is of note, I don't know if it's a concern

646
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: or not is wide receiver Juice Wells, who he talked

647
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: about in the last episode, went to Ole Miss Xavier

648
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: Leggets in the NFL. Now those are two key pieces

649
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: of this offense over the last couple of years. Okay,

650
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: they've got the fastest guy at receiver in the country

651
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: Nick Nick Harber, the sophomore, so fast he could have

652
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: tried out for the Olympics if he wanted to. He didn't,

653
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: but he's a monster. I looked up his stats. They

654
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: are his vitals. They are six five, two forty. He's

655
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: listed as a wide out. He's a total freak. Only

656
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: caught twelve balls last year. Could have a breakout campaign

657
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: in a system like this, and I think it's essential

658
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: that he become more a part of this offense. If

659
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: South Carolina is going to hit that over agree you

660
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: just you can put bigger receivers closer to the line,

661
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: tight end style receivers closer to the line in a

662
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: zone read system and leak them out get him into

663
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 1: the open field. Or he can use a guy like

664
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: this with his speed to take the top off a

665
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: defense get the run game going. But in either case,

666
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a key cog in the operation this season,

667
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: especially since it's unclear as to who else might be

668
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: there in that receiving core. Okay, now, I know Juice

669
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: Wells didn't have like a huge impact last year, only

670
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: played a couple of games, But you get the point.

671
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: My point is that this is a depleted receiver room.

672
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: And Nick Harber right now is I think the one

673
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: thing that we can sort of lean on as perhaps

674
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: somebody who can create that variable or that mismatch that

675
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: can help this offense.

676
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: So as long as he's Randy Moss, as long as

677
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: he is arguably the greatest receiver of all time.

678
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: No, I just we're talking about six wins here.

679
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: We're not talking I'm being a silly, silly man.

680
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so that's both a concern and I think

681
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: potentially something that's being overlooked. I also think the defense

682
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: may be a little bit overlooked, if I'm being honest here.

683
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: They were better against the run than the pass last year.

684
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: They improved as the season went on. Now they've got

685
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: a lot back. There are eight starters back, eleventh in

686
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: returning production on defense, probably the best defense that Shane

687
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: Biemers had in his time in Colombia. I'm inclined to

688
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: say this team is led by defense, just because it

689
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: feels like more of a known quantity to me, especially

690
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: with how they ended the season, which was a high note.

691
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: They were trending in a very very good direction, but

692
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: again easy to overlook, easy to overlooks South Carolina. The

693
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: over under is very tasty to me. It is very

694
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: tasty because there are four gimmeas on this schedule with

695
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: Old Dominion, Akron, Vandy, and Wafford. They're going to win

696
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: those games. In order to hit that over a five

697
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: and a half, they basically need to steal only two

698
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: games from Kentucky on the road beat him last year

699
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: home against LSU, home against Ole Miss, at Bama, at Oklahoma,

700
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: home versus A and M home versus Miszoo, and at Clemson.

701
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Those are eight games, Dan, I.

702
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: Agree, can you count two in there that you feel

703
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: good about? I could see it. I mean, look, it's

704
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: a seller's thing, it's a quarterback thing. It's a is

705
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: he good enough to put the put a healthy amount

706
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: of fear into defenses in this conference? Because if he's

707
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 2: anything short of that, you know, Spencer Ratler was fine

708
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: at times, not so much at times incredible but you know,

709
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: they lose the close game to Florida. Like, I just

710
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: think their margin for air isn't all that wide this season.

711
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: All things can no, it isn't. So it is They're

712
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 2: going to be healthier along the line, which I think

713
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: it goes a long way. They were comically injured up

714
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: front last year on offense, so I think they can

715
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: win some games. I really like. I feel pretty decently

716
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: about South Carolina. I just don't feel like they're eight

717
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: and four South Carolina and threatening for that one.

718
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: No, they're not eight and four. But I feel very

719
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: optimistic about what this team is coming back, what they

720
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: will look like. And I've been work shopping it in

721
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: my head all week that I'm a seller's buyer.

722
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what does that mean.

723
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm just into Lenora's sellers. I think he's gonna okay,

724
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: a seller's buyer, A seller's buyer. Yeah, a little bit

725
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: of it. You see what I did there kind of

726
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: makes up a little bit.

727
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: I still don't like. I don't like their offensive coordinator

728
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: that much South Carolina. That gives me pause. Ad Sean

729
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: Elliott head recent head coach take over tight ends.

730
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna have a direct hand in play

731
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: calling or anything of that nature, but he does have

732
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: an influence on the offense, and I think that will

733
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: come into play a little bit when we start talking

734
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: about this transition from an aired out approach to something

735
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: that's more oriented around the ground.

736
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm in on South Carolina as a bowl team.

737
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: I think I am too.

738
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: I also, I just love williams Brice. I've said this

739
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: over the years.

740
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Do you know that the upper deck still shakes, and

741
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: like it shakes.

742
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: In big moments or just in general or during sandstorm?

743
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: Well, definitely during sandstorm, but it the upper deck shakes,

744
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: and they've called in engineers to make sure that it

745
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: structurally sound and it is.

746
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: But okay, good to know they've they've.

747
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: Like added special support and padding in between, like the joints.

748
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're called, but it still shakes

749
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: and apparently it's safe. So great, incredible place to play.

750
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Gocox where you wanna go? Know, let's go Arkansas. Now

751
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna go Arkansas.

752
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 2: Earlier America's snake in the toilet?

753
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: Are they gonna fire? Sam Pittman? Is he gonna make

754
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: it through the air?

755
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: I almost knocked over my coffee right there when you

756
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: asked me that. Uh, I think it's gonna be very

757
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: difficult for him to make it through the air. Would

758
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: love to see it. The things that I don't love

759
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: about Arkansas is one the schedule's terrible for Arkansas. That's

760
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: the danger, along with Arkansas offensive line and we'll see

761
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: there's just they're constructed away from bringing in who they've

762
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: brought in at offensive coordinator, bringing in the portals stuff

763
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 2: that they've brought in on offense. Like I think Taylor

764
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 2: Green is interesting. I think the best of him is good.

765
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: But saving your high pressure sec job good, I don't know.

766
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 2: I have my doubts. Behind a rebuilt line which will

767
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: be improved but probably not incredible, the strength of this

768
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: team is still probably upfront on defense there. I mean, yeah,

769
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson, I believe he's good, He's really good, but

770
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: they don't have six good defensive linemen and that to

771
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: me seems to be the issue. They've improved on defense,

772
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: which I feel good about, but to what end, right, Like,

773
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: to what end is this team built to win seven

774
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: games in the see? Like I just it's hard to

775
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: piece together. I really like to Quinton Jackson the Utah

776
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: running back that they've brought in. But I don't think

777
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: he's somebody that you know, carries you to two and

778
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: a half more wins or something like that. I think

779
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: he's a nice piece. Like they don't have a ton

780
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: of star power at receiver. Andrew Armstrong is good. He

781
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: was the D two transfer that came in last year.

782
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: I thought he was good, But like, if Arkansas was

783
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: gonna win a bunch of games, he should be your

784
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: number two receiver, not your primary guy. And so that

785
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: coupled with this schedule, which again Arkansas can be the snake.

786
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Arkansas Okay, so Auburn has Oklahoma the week after Arkansas

787
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: A and m has Missoo a week after Arkansas. Tennessee

788
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: has Oklahoma and then a bye the week before, and

789
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: then Florida the week after. LSU has Arkansas sandwich between

790
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: Ole Miss and Texas A, and m ole Miss has

791
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: Arkansas between Oklahoma and Georgia. So I could see see

792
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: that if you're looking from AFAR at somebody's schedule, it

793
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: just like, oh yeah, now there's Arkansas in there, So

794
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: that's fine. It might not be fine, is all I'm saying.

795
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 2: That might be the role Arkansas was playing in the

796
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: SEC this year. It's just they need to be two

797
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: games better to make a Bowl. They went four to

798
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: eight last year, had some close calls. The one win

799
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: was against Florida and a weird I think it was

800
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: an overtime game. It's just to me, very difficult when

801
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: whenever they were successful last year it was kJ Jefferson

802
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: sort of DIY doing his own thing, and I think

803
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: he was their leading rusher and didn't have the receivers,

804
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: but made it work as often as he could behind

805
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: that line, which was objectively it was just terrible. It

806
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: was a terrible offensive line in front of him. So yes,

807
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 2: they have been aggressive in the portal. I just don't

808
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: know that in terms of bulk, in terms of quantity

809
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: of difference makers, it's there. So yes, they can go

810
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: five and seven against this schedule if they're dangerous enough

811
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: upfront on defense and the offensive line improves and Bobby

812
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: Petrino's vision for this team involves a very difficult combination

813
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: of Taylor Green and Jaquindin Jackson on the ground creatively

814
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: and you know, finding some pop and play action whatever,

815
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: and they approach it in a very smart way and

816
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: they get very lucky in terms of injury health. But

817
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: I just listened off like six bullet points, so I

818
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: don't know what they're over under is.

819
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arkansas's over under is four and a half.

820
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: I did enjoy Bill Connolly saying that Arkansas is America's

821
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: like weird weather team. Like if you don't like the

822
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: weather in blank, wait fifteen minutes. If you think Arkansas

823
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: is bad and hopeless, wait a season, they're gonna be

824
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: weirdly pretty good. So there is that like universe holdout

825
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: for hope with Arkansas, that they're a team that they're

826
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, Sam Pittman has been there long enough that

827
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: he is a pretty good handle on what they are

828
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: and what they're not. And there's enough new in the

829
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: sec where you're just like, who knows, Arkansas could be

830
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 2: weird and dangerous? Because every three to five years they're

831
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: weird and dangerous. Could that be this year? Yes, it

832
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: could be. I just it's hard to connect the dots

833
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: right now.

834
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to connect the dots, especially when you

835
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 1: look at the collapse that they've seen along their offensive line.

836
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be Sam Pittman's thing, that's the siren

837
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: that's the issue that's supposed to be his thing, supposed

838
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: to be his thing anything else. There have been many

839
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: great line coaches who have ascended to be head coaches,

840
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: and I think we felt really good about Sam Pittman

841
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: the early tenures of Leven, but the bottoming out of

842
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: the line last year was really problematic. I suppose time

843
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: will tell as to whether or not that was a

844
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: one off. My hunch as it wasn't. You know, there

845
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: have been trend lines, but we'll see. I don't know.

846
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic he makes it through the year.

847
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: Did you see he has a neon glowing, slobbering hog

848
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: statue on his property?

849
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: I did.

850
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: How can you not root for that? I want it,

851
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: I want it to happen.

852
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: I think culturally he is a terrific fit. I think

853
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: he's probably a great dude. I think people want Sam

854
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: Pittman to succeed, and I suspect if that weren't the case,

855
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: he would have been gone right already. The fact that

856
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: he's still around means that they want it to work

857
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: for him. But in the era and now of the playoff,

858
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: and especially in light of what we saw happen with

859
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: that line play last year, for an eight season. They

860
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: don't make a Bowl this year. I can't see it

861
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: going on much longer for Pittman.

862
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: As I mentioned before, they're especially aggressive in the portal

863
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: along both lines, along the offensive and defensive lines. They

864
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: are they've been, so if that whatever, if that pays off,

865
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: especially early on, are things so dire that there should

866
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 2: be that Arkansas should be you know, X and X

867
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 2: by the bye week. I think it's after six weeks,

868
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: so there's a bye after Tennessee before LSU. Like, do

869
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: they need to be three and three for Sam Pittman

870
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: to keep his job or do they want to get

871
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: a jump on a process? And they already have Bobby

872
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: Patrino in house. So it's at Oklahoma State week two.

873
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: That's difficult, right, They open with Pine Bluff, They have

874
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: UAB who won't have much of a defense to take

875
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: advantage of whatever Arkansas offensive deficiencies are. The week after

876
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: that at Auburn, Texas A and M, or you know

877
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: it's Texas A and M. In Jerry World. I kind

878
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: of think they need to be three and three after

879
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 2: that Tennessee game for people to feel pretty good. Yeah,

880
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: Like they're basically going to have to win of those

881
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: four games Oklahoma State, Auburn, Texas A, and M Tennessee.

882
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to win one, probably two to feel

883
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: good about heading into that real the grinder of the

884
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: back half of the schedule.

885
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: It is a tough schedule that's working against him too, So.

886
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: I think they have to show proof of concept pretty

887
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: early on because he's been there a while. Why don't

888
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: you close out your teams and talk about Auburn? No,

889
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: no thanks, Okay, fine, fine.

890
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: Auburn lost lost the Music City Ball to Maryland. Yeah,

891
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: finished six and seven in Hugh Freeze's first year. They're

892
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: over under. This year is seven and a half. I

893
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: like jar Quiz Hunter. I love Cam Coleman. They're incoming

894
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: freshman wide out. I think he's gonna be their top

895
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: target already. I liked Hugh Freeze calling the offense, which

896
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: he started doing about midway through last season. I think

897
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: that showed up in the numbers. I don't like Peyton

898
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Thorn really at all, and I don't like the amount

899
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: of transition that we're going to see on defense, and

900
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: I think that's my biggest hesitation. So sure, I've got

901
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: Auburn right at seven and five. Or six and six

902
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. I think maybe a better team. I think, ultimately,

903
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: say what you want about Hugh Freeze and DJ Diurkin,

904
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: but I think he will get that program on the

905
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: right track, and I think that has already started. They

906
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: were very aggressive trying to go out and get wide receivers. Yeah,

907
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: so I think Hugh Freeze has a vision. I just

908
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to materialize this year.

909
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So in defensive peyton Thorn, this was a pretty

910
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: down offensive line in terms of pass protection. They were

911
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 2: a good run blocking line. So if they can get

912
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 2: better protecting Peyton Thorn, hypothetically with a little bit more time,

913
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: better receivers, another year of what should be very good

914
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: running back play, he should improve.

915
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

916
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't think a ceiling is particularly high, but I

917
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: think players around him might be able to look make

918
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: him look better than he realistically is, and that's a win, right.

919
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,919
Speaker 2: I think, you know, Hugh Freeze as an offensive mind

920
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: is good. Bringing in Derek Nicks I thought was nice

921
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: given his experience in the league, given his experience with

922
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: running backs, especially that if this can be a group

923
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: that runs really well and can pop more because guys

924
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: are getting opened down the field. Great. I think that's

925
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: a big win. That's what makes Auburn dangerous this year

926
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: is you don't need to squint to see offensive improvement.

927
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: You mentioned the losses on defense. They lost a ton

928
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: in the secondary, and when after a bunch of guys

929
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: in the secondary built up some depth up front, which

930
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: I think they needed to do. I think it's still

931
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: a team that's going to be led by its defense,

932
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: which look, they lost a lot of key contributors from

933
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: last year, but with their aggression with the playmakers on offense,

934
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: it's not hard to see why they're dangerous and what

935
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: their danger might be. Their danger is just you know,

936
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: if you're looking at the twenty twenty three team, just

937
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: sing a repeat that they're leaving points on the board

938
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: because they can't spread a defense out, they can't challenge

939
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: a defense downfield, and their defense is inconsistent and they're

940
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: not closing out winnable games like the Iron Bowl. So

941
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: that's the danger that all of the steps that they've

942
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: taken don't work out for one reason or another and

943
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 2: we see a rerun.

944
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: I like them.

945
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 2: I like Auburn this year.

946
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: Really.

947
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, over seven and a half, seven and a half. Yeah,

948
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: I think they can challenge it. I think they're home

949
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: for the first month of the year, right.

950
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's Alabama, A and M, cal New Mexico

951
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: and Arkansas to open the year. That's when they start

952
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: getting into the meat of the schedule. The end of September,

953
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Georgia back to back weeks, then a bye,

954
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: then Missouri and Kentucky back to back weeks on the road,

955
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: come back home against Vanderbilt before another buy and then

956
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: they close out the season with ULM, Texas A and

957
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: M and a road game obviously the Iron Bowl against Alabama.

958
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: So the Auburn schedule really is like a three or

959
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: four part play, with the easy ones in the beginning

960
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: and then three stretches of games where in those like

961
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: little groupings of three you've got two tough.

962
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: There's enough on this schedule though, that like if there is,

963
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 2: and this is a weird thing to say, if there's

964
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 2: stability on the planes with Auburn, Right that Hugh Freeze

965
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: has been there, that he has a good sense of

966
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: what his team is and is not, he might be ahead.

967
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: He knows what Peyton Thorn is. He knows what Peyton

968
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: Thorn is not. He might be ahead of most of

969
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 2: his schedule. You mentioned those games, right, Arkansas is in

970
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: a down place. Oklahoma hasn't been in this conference and

971
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: has a new quarterback. George is gonna be excellent. Obviously,

972
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: Miszoos should be very very good. Kentucky Mark Stoops largely

973
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: hasn't figured out offense.

974
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: Right.

975
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: No, that doesn't mean he hasn't had good teams that

976
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: have won a bunch of games, but like there's a

977
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: deficiency there. Vandy should be vulnerable. Texas A and M

978
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: has a new coach and has head quarterback injury history.

979
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: And Alabama has a new coach and we have no

980
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: idea what they're truly going to be. And Hugh Frees

981
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: in year one likely should have beaten Nick Saban in

982
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: Alabama and this quarterback they needed a miracle play. So, yes,

983
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: Auburn is a crazy wild card. But this is a

984
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: good year to be Auburn. Okay, in my mind it is. Wow,

985
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: I'm probably taking the under. I think they're right there

986
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: at seven wins. I think they improve, but I think

987
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 2: they're probably going to lose something stupid and win something stupid.

988
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: So I have them at seven and five with a

989
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty game to go to eight and four.

990
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, seven and five. Now two teams left, Tennessee

991
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: and Kentucky. Oh these are good ones, man, good teams

992
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: to talk about it. I got two things to throw

993
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: here in the volcano over these next two okay previews.

994
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 1: Let me start with Kentucky though.

995
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: Seven and six.

996
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: Last year they played the Gator Bowl, that fun Gator

997
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: Bowl against Clemson. Lost thirty eight thirty five by a

998
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: field goal. Forget the exact final score. I am very

999
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: interested in this Kentucky over under of six and a half.

1000
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: This year, we did that whole Kentucky episode go back

1001
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: a few months. We talked to Nick Rusche from Kentucky

1002
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. The title of that was will it ever Happen?

1003
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: For Mark Stoops and the Cats. I think there's a

1004
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: lot right with this program, but I feel like we're

1005
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: always waiting for another offense that isn't one dimensional, you know,

1006
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: Like Ray Davis was great last year the transfer, but

1007
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: Devin Leary never got going, so it was all on

1008
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: Ray Davis. In the off season. They go back in

1009
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: the portal. Now they're trying to find another quarterback. This

1010
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: time they land Rock Vandergriff from Georgia. Full disclosure, you

1011
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: know you're on record too. We're both card carrying vander Grifters.

1012
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1013
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: I think he is a good fit for what they

1014
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: want to do on offense. But the real question is

1015
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: what the offense will look like now, because it will

1016
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: look a little bit different. Liam Cohen is gone. My

1017
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: guy made a career off that one year with Will

1018
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Levis and didn't do much with Devin Leary's Now he's off.

1019
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,919
Speaker 1: Now it's Bush Hampden running the offense. I talked about

1020
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: his background a little bit in Part one. He was

1021
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: previously at Boise State. We should see tight ends get

1022
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: more involved. We should see some tempo in spots. I

1023
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: think we again see a scheme built around the run.

1024
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: So Mark Stoopstein, what I like about Brock Vandergriff is

1025
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: that he's big and he's mobile. I think if Brock

1026
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: Vandergriff can take this, can take to this system. Excuse me,

1027
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: Kentucky could be very dangerous because there's sample talent around him.

1028
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: Dan like the line is back, most of the receivers

1029
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: are back. They brought in Chip train him. The transfer

1030
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: at at Running back who's bounced around has been a

1031
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: million different places.

1032
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 2: As at Steelhouse State now Kentucky.

1033
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: Yep. I just feel like this scheme, with this quarterback

1034
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: and with the personnel on hand, is such that if

1035
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: it takes, it should be pretty good. Defensively, nine or

1036
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: ten guys back, It's historically been a pretty good.

1037
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: Defense far lyon and secondary should be pretty fus corners

1038
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: especially the.

1039
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: Front seven is going to be nasty. Yeah, I think

1040
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: most Kentucky fans would probably tell you that the past

1041
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: defense left something to be desired last season. But oh yeah,

1042
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: there's enough back in the secondary that you can assume

1043
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: something of a step forward. They're just going to be

1044
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: big and really nasty in the front seven, which I

1045
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: also think makes them very dangerous. Guys like Dion Walker

1046
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: and JJ Weaver, Dear Jackson, Like this is havoc central, Dan,

1047
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: that was your.

1048
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: Scouting report in high school as a second baseman. Like,

1049
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: here's here's what you have to know about ty Hildon Brandt.

1050
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: Big and nasty, big and nasty, big and nasty. You

1051
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 2: don't want any part of them. Yep.

1052
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: So I look at this roster, I look at this schedule,

1053
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: and I do not see a six and six team. Again,

1054
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: bear in mind over under six and a half right

1055
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: seven and five season, which would hit the over that

1056
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: only assumes losses at Ole Miss, at Florida, at Tennessee,

1057
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: at Texas, cent at home against Georgia. Five very good

1058
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: teams are well, four very good teams plus Florida. Yeah,

1059
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Kentucky's going to lose all five of

1060
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: those games, and the rest of the schedule to me

1061
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: looks very workable. So I've got Kentucky at eight and

1062
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: four this season. Give me the over, and let's let's

1063
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: throw it and take a.

1064
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: Toa war takes why births. I like this team, I

1065
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 2: really Do you think it's appropriate that if they're if

1066
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: Kentucky's good in the middle part of their schedule, is

1067
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: it appropriate for us to bring back Broctober?

1068
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Oh? I think we might have to.

1069
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 2: I think we are the ultimate arbiters of that. So yes,

1070
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: I think it's okay.

1071
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Speaker 1: We could. Yeah, Oh, absolutely we could.

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00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: I think eight and four is dependent on you being

1073
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 2: what are we calling it, the vander Grifter.

1074
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: Gotta be a vand Griff.

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00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: You've got to be a Vandergrift're going for you? Turned

1076
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: down my pitch of being Brock hard so a Vandergrifter

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 1: I think I think vanderg you got to be a

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00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: Vandergrifter if you're going over and to your point like

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: it is. It's it's October that's going to make or

1081
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: break this. It's Vandy, it's Florida, it's Auburn, and it's Tennessee. Yeah,

1082
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: kind of right in that meaty middle there, and there

1083
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: are tough games kind of bookending that little stretch in between,

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00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: like in the middle of the season. But if it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen, it's going to happen because they do

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Speaker 1: well in that stretch.

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Speaker 2: Of the ear that's when b October right there.

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00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: October. Yeah. But I'm in, man, I I'm really in.

1089
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,479
Speaker 2: I closed the gap against Tennessee if that counts or anything.

1090
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: Last year got destroyed two years ago, lost by single digits.

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00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: Last year one score game, yep, so huge.

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00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. If Brock Vandergriff is half as good as his

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00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: recruiting projection could have something here. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just agree.

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00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: I like what I'm seeing here, okay, which brings us

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: the Tennessee volunteers.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for Tennessee football this year, I think

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00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: Tennessee is as close to a team that I am

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00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: interested in watching, just because I can't wait to watch them, right,

1100
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: just because I can't wait to watch James Pearce and

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00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: Nico and Chris Brazl and Scroll White and Bruce McCoy,

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: Like there are too many guys on this team the secondary.

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00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: They'm just like, I really just want to watch college

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00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 2: football and have Tennessee be on the screen while I

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: do it.

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you.

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00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: Feel that way?

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00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: Tennessee is my bed of the preseason?

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, this is Dangeorge.

1110
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: Why bird? They're over Runders eight and a half.

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00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: We get destroyed by Georgia. But yeah, over.

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00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: Hunders eight and a half. They went nine to four

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: last year. They lost the game to Florida, to Bama,

1114
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: to Miszoo Georgia. They did shut out Iowa for what

1115
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: it's worth in the Citrus Bowl, if you care about

1116
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: such things. But at long last, Nico, Nico is the

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00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: starting Correa now Ia Malayeva.

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00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 2: Is how you say the name Nico, That's how I

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00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: say it.

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Speaker 1: He is a monster. He is six six, he is

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Speaker 1: two fifteen. He's a tall glass of water. Frankly got

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00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: some reps last year. We saw him again in the

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Speaker 1: spring game. I have not seen anything so far that

1124
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: throws cold water on the hype the comp for him

1125
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: coming out of high school. For what it's worth, if

1126
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: you care about such things, justin Herbert actually ended up

1127
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: being pretty good all things considered.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's legit. I think it

1130
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: goes without saying that Josh Hipel and his system with

1131
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: a five star quarterback is going to be dangerous. It's

1132
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: just gonna be dangerous. Plus he got Bru McCoy back.

1133
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 1: He mentioned Squorld whites back. You mentioned Chris Brasl coming

1134
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: in from Tulane. You mentioned also Mike Matthews, the five

1135
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: star wide out who had offers everywhere in the country.

1136
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: I think, if I remember correctly, and I should have

1137
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: gone back and checked before we hit record. I want

1138
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: to say, after the Tennessee spring game or the spring

1139
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: scrimmage whatever they had, everybody was talking up Mike Matthews.

1140
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the young receiver.

1141
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the toast of that spring thing, if

1142
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: memory serves, And so they they just they have enough

1143
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: out wide. They also added Holden Stays the tight end

1144
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,959
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. This offense is gonna score. They would

1145
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: score with lesser personnel. They will certainly score with this personnel.

1146
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: It's not even a question in my mind. Also, the defense,

1147
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: the front seven is loaded. They are the line in particular,

1148
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: maybe the best in the nation, led by your boy,

1149
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: my boy, James Pearce, who, by the time all is

1150
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: said and done, could end up being the top overall

1151
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: pick in next year's draft. He is He is a

1152
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: freak athlete. He is incredible edge rusher. I would encourage

1153
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: everybody who has the video game to just play an

1154
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: exhibition with James Pearson Tennessee. He is comically fast, it's

1155
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: like not even real. So I like what they have

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: up front. My biggest question about this defense is how

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: long it's going to take the secondary to figure itself

1158
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: out because it's entirely new back there. It's debatable whether

1159
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: Josh Hypel patched enough of that hole in the secondary

1160
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: via the portal to make it better or sustainable or whatever.

1161
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: But that's really the issue I have with this team.

1162
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: It's the secondary. So I'm in, like I'm I'm on

1163
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: ten and two Tennessee this year, ten and two Tennessee

1164
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: Bam and Georgia's losses. I think the offense will be electric.

1165
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: I am ecstatic to see Nico at quarterback. I think

1166
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: the line's going to be dominant. I think an early game,

1167
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: frankly against Oklahoma is going to be a great Belt

1168
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: weather for both teams. That's a game I'm particularly interested in.

1169
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: I think it's going to tell us a lot about

1170
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Speaker 1: what's to come. But yeah, I'm I'm all in on

1171
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: Tennessee over that eight and a half.

1172
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 2: What's going to happen when they lose Week two to

1173
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 2: my NC State wolf Pack Charlotte. What's gonna happen? Then

1174
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: they're not I thought Grayson McCall was like, like two

1175
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: weeks ago, you were ready to run away to a

1176
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 2: besa with Grayson McCall. What happened?

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Speaker 1: They're not beating Tennessee though, Okay, be a good year.

1178
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: I think it'll be a good year. Fancy State. They're

1179
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Speaker 1: not beating Tennessee.

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01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: Tennessee's gonna be really fun. They're gonna be really good.

1181
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Do you have the the NFL draft chime you use

1182
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: for fantasy things? By the way, I can.

1183
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: I can pull it up quickly if you want me to.

1184
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I have no idea for doing fantasy things this

1185
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: year or not a show or we'll do it in

1186
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: some some fashion perhaps, But if you're looking to uh

1187
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: get a winning fantasy things pick, I don't whoa uh

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01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: nico Iya Malava played volleyball on a high level. Oh

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: Eyah Malayeva. Ea Malayeva played volleyball on a very high

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Speaker 2: level in high school. They will show clips all year long.

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Speaker 1: I think I agree.

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01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: I hope. I hope someday like he he and T

1193
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 2: Mac when they hang it up, decide to pull you

1194
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: see Chase Budinger saw the old Arizona. I think he

1195
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: was on the Houston Rockets too, but he was a

1196
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: great volleyball player growing up, and now he's on the

1197
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: Olympic team. It'd be a nice story T Mac and

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: post football retirement. Okay, I think I'm with you. I

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Speaker 2: think I'm with you with how Tennessee has been building

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Speaker 2: to this moment. I know when we did the Tennessee

1201
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: episode that we talked about some concern at running back

1202
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: and star power and depth at running back. Will see,

1203
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 2: but man, they're in good shape all over the place,

1204
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: especially the secondary works out. I think they're in good

1205
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: shape in the secondary, but they're relying on some new faces.

1206
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: And if you're going to go at him, that's how

1207
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: you go at him, at least to start the season.

1208
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 2: The Florida loss last year is in my head a

1209
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 2: little bit, and that's Joe Milton and that's a different situation.

1210
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: And I actually really like that Nico had a year

1211
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 2: of seasoning, which, like you look at the quarterback class

1212
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: he came in with, like Dante more pressed into duty,

1213
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Jade and rashottat plays and gets hurt. It's nice. It's

1214
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 2: a nice luxury for him to be able to to

1215
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: sort of sit and wait, so he has every opportunity

1216
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 2: to become I mean, look at his best in this system.

1217
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 2: He could be the best quarterback in this conference.

1218
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, that does it, Dan, We did it.

1219
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: We made it through the sec part three. Now in

1220
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: the books, you know the drill. Write in, leave a

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1223
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Speaker 1: are encouraged. Trying to be nice, but if you got

1224
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Speaker 1: anything to say, anything we got wrong, we'd love to

1225
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: hear it. We love to correct our errors. That's why

1226
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Speaker 1: we've got our losing horn sound. We keep it at

1227
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Speaker 1: the ready at all times here. As we're doing these previews,

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Speaker 1: three power conferences now in the books. We've got the

1229
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Speaker 1: Big ten yet to go. We're also going to do

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Speaker 1: a preview talking about Notre Dame in Washington State and

1231
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Speaker 1: Oregon State and of course the U Mass We're going

1232
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Speaker 1: to hit every team every conference here before all this

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Speaker 1: going to drop every Sunday, Tuesday, and Thursday, not just

1236
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Speaker 1: now but through the college football season, so a lot

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Speaker 1: more content. We will be with you every step of

1238
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: the way here, yes, to help you get through what

1239
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: I think is going to be a season that's fun

1240
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: as hell. In twenty twenty four. There are so many

1241
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: new things, so many new faces, new rules, a lot

1242
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Speaker 1: is changing. Hopefully we can kind of grow into that

1243
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Speaker 1: with the Verballer hood because it's new for us too.

1244
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and we can do it as a community.

1245
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Speaker 1: I think that's what we're encouraging everybody to do as

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1249
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Speaker 2: What you're saying is, do not sleep on the sec

1250
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 2: do not sleep on the solid verbal and if you

1251
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: are going to sleep, get yourself a mattress from sit

1252
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: and sleep at all participating LA and Orange County locations.

1253
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Speaker 2: So the story behind that type.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Oh you're doing the mattress thing again,

1255
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Speaker 1: that's right, yeah, yeah, well you said I could do

1256
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: it at the end. Right ahead, Please, I forgot you

1257
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Speaker 1: have favorite.

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Speaker 2: Like local radio commercials. I'm sure you grew up with

1259
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: that are still in circul although I think you listen

1260
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: to podcasts and serious probably more than you used to.

1261
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 2: The whole campaign was this is probably to this day.

1262
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: Is Larry, who owns the mattress store, is talking to

1263
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: like his accountant or his lawyer, and his accountan or

1264
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: lawyer is yelling at him. He's like, you cannot afford

1265
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: to keep slashing these prices.

1266
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Speaker 1: You're gonna ruin everything.

1267
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: And he says, I don't care. I'm doing it for

1268
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,959
Speaker 2: all of Southern California's best sleepers. And he always says,

1269
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: you're killing me, Larry. And he always says, if you

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Speaker 2: don't love your mattress it's freely and it was and

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Speaker 2: probably still is the best. Not a sponsor would love

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Speaker 2: them to.

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Speaker 1: Be all right. Well, a great note to close this

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Speaker 1: We will be back. Next up it is the Big

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Speaker 1: eighteen teams and eighteen teams. Save your voice, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: need it. For that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilding Brand, thanks for hanging

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Speaker 1: with us here sec officially in the books. Well see

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Speaker 1: you talk big ten. Next they saw peace