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Speaker 1: welcome to text stuff. My name is Chris Poelette and

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Speaker 1: Sitting across from me, as usual, is senior writer Jonathan Strickland.

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Speaker 1: The page came from your dad's office at the Arcade.

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Speaker 1: That number has been disconnected for twenty years. Wow. Recent quote. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a quote from a movie that hasn't even come

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Speaker 1: pertains to what we're going to be talking about. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: For once, I actually told said what the name of

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Speaker 1: the movie was. Usually, I don't do that. Do you

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Speaker 1: all know that he's every time he does that, he's

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Speaker 1: actually quoting from a movie or song or song. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's a song, that's true, sorry, so yeah, but

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Speaker 1: usually a movie. I'm waiting to get to the point

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Speaker 1: what I'm quoting from. What we did? Give that challenge once? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think he just did it. For the subsequent

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Speaker 1: but yeah, make a list after you were doing the

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Speaker 1: greetings from the world, the world different. Hello. But moving

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Speaker 1: on to our actual topic, which is arcades. That again

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Speaker 1: pertains to the quote I chose. Um, the we wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about kind of the rise and fall of

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Speaker 1: the video game arcade. Yes, indeed, I spent many many

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Speaker 1: many many quarters, and then I shifted to spending many

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Speaker 1: was a great money making scheme. Well, I guess we

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Speaker 1: can talk about that too, although that's kind of tertiary

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Speaker 1: history of video game arcades, I need to cut off

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Speaker 1: Chris just before he's about to say something. What were

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Speaker 1: you gonna say, Chris? Well, I was going to launch

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Speaker 1: into a whole thing, But go ahead, please launch. Okay. So,

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Speaker 1: of course many of you know that I am older

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Speaker 1: mean you spent a lot of time and as a kid,

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Speaker 1: and I remember, going back to the research, I remember

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Speaker 1: a lot of the things that I've seen as seminal

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Speaker 1: uh competitive or cooperative game play online, and that's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: It's still not quite the same as lining up to

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Speaker 1: a an arcade console and or arcade cabinet rather and

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Speaker 1: plunking a quarter down on the screen to mark that

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Speaker 1: you have the next game as two people are battling

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Speaker 1: it out in Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter or or

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Speaker 1: something like that. I remember when people used to put

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Speaker 1: a quarter up on the screen glass to let you

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Speaker 1: know next game. Yeah, I remember. So, So let's let's

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Speaker 1: wrap this up with do you have any like favorite

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Speaker 1: arcade stories at all? I have one I can tell

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Speaker 1: if you want to think of one. Okay, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I attended a science fiction convention in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Uh in, oh gosh. It probably would been in the

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Speaker 1: early nineties maybe, And sadly, one of the biggest attractions

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Speaker 1: at this tiny, tiny convention was a copy of gaunt

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Speaker 1: Let Too that was in their little game area for

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Speaker 1: for the hotel. It was the hotel's arcade machine and

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Speaker 1: one of the convention guys decided that it would be

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Speaker 1: fun to go ahead and invest and get tons and

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Speaker 1: tons and tons of quarters. I know that some people

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Speaker 1: hate me using the phrase tons of stuff, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: lots of quarters and allow people to play this game

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Speaker 1: as long as they wanted to. So I got in

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Speaker 1: on level one and played Gauntlet too with three other

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Speaker 1: people until we got to some ridiculous level like in

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Speaker 1: the hundreds and uh and that was one of the

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Speaker 1: most fun experiences because it was just, again, you've got

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Speaker 1: four people working together. They're cooperating trying to to play

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Speaker 1: through this game. And uh and you know the the

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Speaker 1: jokes that come up as people accidentally do things like

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Speaker 1: shoot the food. If you've ever played the Gauntlet games,

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Speaker 1: it has some very uh distinctive phrases that come out

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Speaker 1: as you play, like, you know, warriors shop the food elf,

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Speaker 1: your life force is running out, Wizard needs food badly.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, that just ended up becoming a great

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Speaker 1: community experience. Yeah, I um, I don't really have a

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Speaker 1: story like that so much, but I do. I do

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Speaker 1: remember going to my friend's parents arcade, and you know

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Speaker 1: that I was pretty much guaranteed to see somebody I

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Speaker 1: knew there, which was really really cool. And then I

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Speaker 1: used to go to this one pizza place all the

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Speaker 1: time when I was a kid, and my parents would

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Speaker 1: just you know, give me five bucks to play until

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Speaker 1: the pizza showed up, and you know, there was always

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Speaker 1: something good. Marble Madness, Spy Hunter Tapper, Marble Madness. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was That was the first time I encountered Dragon's

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Speaker 1: Layer and uh, you know, trying to figure out the

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Speaker 1: sequence of moves that would get you to the next level.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I finally got to see a laser disc

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Speaker 1: of Dragon's Layer which showed how to go through the

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Speaker 1: whole game and win at the end. And then after

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Speaker 1: it ran through that, it showed all the ways you

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Speaker 1: can die. Yeah, though the different ways you could die

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Speaker 1: part was about three times longer than the actual gameplay part. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's definitely one of those experiences. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of sad to see it go away. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, financially, it's hard to justify operating an arcade.

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Speaker 1: It's just really challenging to do it in a way

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Speaker 1: that that will make enough money to pay all the bills,

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Speaker 1: much less turn a profit. So it's challenging. I'd still

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Speaker 1: like to find that cow milking video game that you

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Speaker 1: were talking about. Go to Japan, dude. We should also

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Speaker 1: add that this is really only true necessarily in North America.

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Speaker 1: There are other places where arcades are still going strong,

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Speaker 1: and Japan is one of those places. You can go

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Speaker 1: to Japan and there are plenty of different arcades, and

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Speaker 1: they have really innovative games, and sometimes they're really crazy,

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Speaker 1: like a a Milk the Cow arcade game where you

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Speaker 1: actually milk the electronic utters of a plastic cow. But

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Speaker 1: it was basically like Simon, right, Yeah, that's what That's

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Speaker 1: what it looked like to me. I didn't work up

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Speaker 1: the courage to actually play it because I was certain

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Speaker 1: that video of me playing it would show up online later.

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Speaker 1: And sadly, that particular arcade no longer exists. International Bowl

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Speaker 1: and Arcade off Bufford Highway. I miss you. Just goes

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Speaker 1: to show you if you get the opportunity to play

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Speaker 1: an unusual coin operated video game, sees that opportunity. Dude.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever play any of the arcade arm wrestling games? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that later. Okay, any of you guys

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