Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about the name snow the product.
Speaker 1: My friend from high school, she was like, I'm Belle,
Speaker 1: which princess do you want to be? And I was like,
Speaker 1: which one can I be? She's like snow White and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, snow White, that's cool. I always
Speaker 1: had anxiety. I have ways of coping, but definitely I
Speaker 1: think it's physically painful for me sometimes to talk to
Speaker 1: people or like sometimes I feel like I can't. It's
Speaker 1: just a lot there's a lot of like rapper artists
Speaker 1: that they try to do is like I'm Mexican, like
Speaker 1: I should be the best of the Mexicans in the
Speaker 1: Mexican American community, and to me, it's like no bro
Speaker 1: like duty. Yeah, welcome back to the Cheekies and Chill podcasts. Guys,
Speaker 1: You're not going to believe who I have on today's show.
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to be speaking with a super raw
Speaker 1: and real Latina artist. She's probably already your favorite rapper,
Speaker 1: and if she isn't, I'm sure by the end of
Speaker 1: the show she will be. Before we're bring her in.
Speaker 1: I just want to say this conversation is probably going
Speaker 1: to get a little spicy, so just keep that in mind. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now that that's out of the way, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and bring her in. This is cheekys and chill.
Speaker 1: Sitting in front of me is none other than the
Speaker 1: Latin Grammy nominated rapper and podcaster Snow, the product Hi,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm good, Welcome to my podcast.
Speaker 1: I was on yours recently and we got a little wild,
Speaker 1: but it was fun. Yours a lot more zen's a
Speaker 1: lot more calm. Yes, it's a little bit more zen.
Speaker 1: But look, it's probably better that I don't have tequila
Speaker 1: right now. But whenever you want, I'll go back on
Speaker 1: your podcast so we can actually finish a conversation, because
Speaker 1: that's what everyone's saying, Like, you guys didn't finish any topic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because we left a lot of things unsaid, so
Speaker 1: we can just keep going exactly, which is good. So
Speaker 1: that means I have to go back. Yeah, but they
Speaker 1: did say that the chemistry was undeniable and that we
Speaker 1: should podcast together more. So here we Yes, I think
Speaker 1: we should. People did say that, and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I've known about Snow. I've seen her.
Speaker 1: We've always said hi when we see each other. But
Speaker 1: we've never really sat down and had a conversation. That
Speaker 1: was the first time, so it was super raw. And
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was a cancer. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: I think the chemistry was undeniable. And yeah, people saw
Speaker 1: it and felt it. That's right, that's tight. Like so
Speaker 1: I didn't know this either, that you started as a
Speaker 1: mariachi singer? Are you saying mariachi? When I was a
Speaker 1: little kid, when as soon as I could talk, my
Speaker 1: dad right away had me singing, the singing, the rapping.
Speaker 1: Where does that come from? Does it come from any
Speaker 1: like any family member? Like I okay, like I forgot
Speaker 1: the lyrics to and after that, I was just like
Speaker 1: it was always embarrassing because my dad, I was the
Speaker 1: kid in the family that like at every gathering they
Speaker 1: would tell me to sing. So I'm just like singing
Speaker 1: for everybody. And I was embarrassing because once I started
Speaker 1: kind of you know, being eleven twelve, like the kids
Speaker 1: are laughing at me, Like I'm embarrassed. I've always been
Speaker 1: very shy when it comes to like all the attention
Speaker 1: on me, So I just hated it. So I just
Speaker 1: thought I was never gonna make music ever, And like
Speaker 1: until he fucking died. My dad sing untas my whole
Speaker 1: family on my dad's side, that's what they do. Um.
Speaker 1: And my dad's a good songwriter. I think that's where
Speaker 1: I got like writing from um, but I never I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think rapping was a rebellion because my
Speaker 1: dad hated rap um, he hated cholos, he hated rap
Speaker 1: he hated all that. So I was like, that was
Speaker 1: my big fuck you to everybody, like or whatever I want.
Speaker 1: So your dad's like very very like traditional. I'm assuming, like, yes,
Speaker 1: super macho Mexican man, fucking you know, don't cut my
Speaker 1: little girl's hair like all that type of shit. So
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I didn't even cross my
Speaker 1: mind who I was going to end up being. But
Speaker 1: it's crazy that now it kind of has come full
Speaker 1: circle with the pride in the Mariachi and the Mexican
Speaker 1: and all these things that were instilled in me are
Speaker 1: still there. I guess it just I had to find
Speaker 1: them on my own. I didn't want them put on me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, Oh my god, See
Speaker 1: that's such a cancer thing. Like I'm you push me
Speaker 1: up against a corner, and I'm going to push back,
Speaker 1: like I don't like to feel like I'm forced to
Speaker 1: do anything. It's like, no, I need to figure out
Speaker 1: my and I'm like I am because I want to
Speaker 1: learn things myself, you know what I mean. And and
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that about you. Are you
Speaker 1: open to like singing with Mariachi? Yeah? I did. I
Speaker 1: have this little intro um called It's All my Little
Speaker 1: EP that I dropped and then now it's going to
Speaker 1: be the beginning the first song on my tour and
Speaker 1: it starts with a little it's a little coo type
Speaker 1: thing and then it goes into this rap part that
Speaker 1: just like the drums are going crazy and the lights
Speaker 1: are going crazy, and it's just like it's just very me.
Speaker 1: You know. It starts, you know, and it goes like
Speaker 1: that and then all of a sudden, it just like
Speaker 1: fucking fu Yeah, oh my. I want to go to
Speaker 1: one of your shows. I always see them on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I really really want to go really bad. I feel
Speaker 1: like they get like I'm gonna get crazy. Yeah No,
Speaker 1: straight up, Like there's a every show, there's a moment
Speaker 1: fucking you know, there's Yeah, though, there's all kinds of shit,
Speaker 1: like I try to do it in not corny way.
Speaker 1: I feel like nowadays, like there's a lot of like
Speaker 1: rapp or artists that they try to do is like
Speaker 1: I'm Mexican, like I should be the best of the Mexicans,
Speaker 1: you know, and in the Mexican American community. And to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, we just rep in ways that like that.
Speaker 1: You don't got to be corny about it and that's it.
Speaker 1: Keep it pushing, you know, don't take on being the
Speaker 1: face of the Mexicans as your identity. It's like, no, bro,
Speaker 1: like fucking duity. Yeah yeah, And there's nothing nothing corny
Speaker 1: about you. And that's one thing like I've known forever,
Speaker 1: like you're just who you are. You're very raw, You're
Speaker 1: very authentic, and I think that's fucking amazing. But now
Speaker 1: in like the society that we live in, where's everyone's
Speaker 1: so just so sensitive about everything, but I feel like
Speaker 1: you're unapologetically yourself. Like it's like either you like me
Speaker 1: or you don't. And is that how you've always been
Speaker 1: or is that something that just happened, like with maturity
Speaker 1: and shit that you've gone through. I think it's been growing.
Speaker 1: Like I always I always make it a big point
Speaker 1: to let people know who Snow the Product is and
Speaker 1: who Claudia is, um because whenever I talk about it
Speaker 1: sometimes people won't won't realize. And that's also why I
Speaker 1: wear my Claudia thing because it's like I want people
Speaker 1: to understand I'm a person and there's a really like
Speaker 1: my fucking name is Snow the Product, like it literally
Speaker 1: says the product like that is what I'm selling as
Speaker 1: a fucking you know thing, as my alter ego, as
Speaker 1: the strong bitch that I wish I could be. But
Speaker 1: like Claudia myself personally, I'm like, if anything, I've always
Speaker 1: been a fucking cry baby, emotional, sentimental chikia Like that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's me. So it's like that Snow the
Speaker 1: Product person is who I needed to embody to be
Speaker 1: able to do what I knew I was put on
Speaker 1: this earth to do, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: I do think I have a voice. I do think
Speaker 1: I know how to talk. I think if if anyone
Speaker 1: was to speak on certain issues, I think I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that I do it the correct way,
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't. I don't lead people the
Speaker 1: wrong way. I know I'm a natural born leader, but
Speaker 1: as far as me, like, if you put too much
Speaker 1: attention on me, I'm like, and you know, I get
Speaker 1: nervous and I get shy, and you know that's why
Speaker 1: I drink. I feel you. I feel like we have
Speaker 1: a lot in common because I also there's cheekies and
Speaker 1: then there's Jenney, and Janet is a hippie and I'd
Speaker 1: rather not have makeup on and I'm just this is me.
Speaker 1: What you see right now is like I'm chilling. I'm
Speaker 1: a hippie at heart. But in order to do what
Speaker 1: I do, I had to that I had to And
Speaker 1: I learned this in twenty eighteen after going like on
Speaker 1: a drinking binge and I was like, I can't get
Speaker 1: on stage unless I'm fucking drunk. And it's like it's cool,
Speaker 1: it's fun, don't get me wrong, but it was causing
Speaker 1: me depression. So I had to learn to separate. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I have to separate cheekies from Janey. And I feel
Speaker 1: like that's kind of like what you do when you're
Speaker 1: at home, when you get home to your son, are
Speaker 1: you like, Okay, I'm Claudia and snow the product she's
Speaker 1: kind of on hold or put away or how do
Speaker 1: you work through that. No. Absolutely. I've always made sure
Speaker 1: that I hold space for the people that I love
Speaker 1: the most, which is my brother, my son, like my
Speaker 1: real core, and I always show up for them as
Speaker 1: as Claudia, you know what I mean. I've never snow
Speaker 1: the product. So even with fans, there's some fans that
Speaker 1: I am very personal with and that I you know,
Speaker 1: they really get to see me and we really talk,
Speaker 1: and I value that so much. Anywhere where I feel
Speaker 1: safe to be Claudia is so important for me because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of times when when I do like
Speaker 1: that that you need to put that shell on, you know,
Speaker 1: and you should know, being a cancer, like we have
Speaker 1: to have that shell because we're like softies on the inside.
Speaker 1: So it's very important to have comfort. And every time
Speaker 1: I'm always finding comfort, I'm always looking for a place
Speaker 1: to sit by myself. I every time that I'm around
Speaker 1: people for like more than an hour, like I have
Speaker 1: to go and be by myself for a little bit.
Speaker 1: And like just I don't know why I get overstimulated
Speaker 1: really quickly. That might be me being on the spectrum
Speaker 1: or something, but realistically I just m I need to
Speaker 1: calm down. I need to get grounded as much as possible.
Speaker 1: You know, dude, that's crazy. On the same way, that's
Speaker 1: so crazy. I've learned to love that alone time and
Speaker 1: the silence and just hearing my own thoughts, and it's
Speaker 1: an everyday thing because I feel like, yes, we're very
Speaker 1: emotional and we can go into a dark place. It's
Speaker 1: real quick if we're not intentional about saying hold up,
Speaker 1: let me have my time, let me decompress, you know,
Speaker 1: and being in the industry and giving so much of
Speaker 1: yourself on stage and it's just like give, gift, give.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel depleted when I get off stage. I
Speaker 1: don't know if if you do. Sometimes you're like, hold on,
Speaker 1: I just need to like I need five minutes before
Speaker 1: I do my meeting great or whatever, because I need
Speaker 1: to replenish myself. No. Absolutely, there's a lot of times
Speaker 1: when fans want to be like, oh, you know, I
Speaker 1: want to go backstage, or I want this, or can
Speaker 1: we go on the bus, and I'm like, the thing
Speaker 1: is that those are the small moments where I get
Speaker 1: to be by myself, and you're gonna be You're gonna
Speaker 1: be disappointed, because that's Claudia time. Like you know, I
Speaker 1: finish a show. I do my meeting great before my shows.
Speaker 1: So once I got finish the show and I go
Speaker 1: to the back of my bus, I'm like eating a soup,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm like just sitting
Speaker 1: there by myself, just like like not thinking about anything,
Speaker 1: just kind of like letting everything and you know, after
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes, then I'll come back out and if
Speaker 1: I after party, I do. But people think that that
Speaker 1: snow the product, you know, bitches, that's shaken all that
Speaker 1: is like always and it's like, bro, nobody can live
Speaker 1: like that forever, Like you know what I mean, it's unrealistic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's fun, it's dope whenever it happens. But
Speaker 1: I value my personal time more because you know, that's
Speaker 1: just few and far between, you know. Yeah. I feel
Speaker 1: like I kind of met Claudia that night after the podcast,
Speaker 1: after we were done, like we were having serious conversations,
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I feel like you have
Speaker 1: a beautiful heart, you know, I mean, you're a beautiful person.
Speaker 1: And I was like, shit, like I don't know, I
Speaker 1: felt really connected to you. So I wanted to just,
Speaker 1: you know, thank you for that that you felt comfortable
Speaker 1: enough to like we were talking about some deep shit.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I know Claudia, and I'm so excited. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're developing a nice friendship here. A lot
Speaker 1: of people couldn't even believe that we had never talked.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, like that we had
Speaker 1: never like because they were like, wait, that was way
Speaker 1: too like you guys. I thought y'all were friends. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, we've seen each other, you know, we said hi,
Speaker 1: but we've never really sat down and talked. So I
Speaker 1: thought it was effortless. I thought it was great me too,
Speaker 1: and I love it. I love it. Now, tell me
Speaker 1: a little bit about where the name Snow the Products from.
Speaker 1: Is it from snow white from or no? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically does it have to do with like because you
Speaker 1: have a bunch of like you have like goats and
Speaker 1: stuff at your house? No? You No, It's like what
Speaker 1: are they? Are they I've manifested in my life? I
Speaker 1: don't know, because I did was not thinking I was
Speaker 1: gonna have a farm when I named myself Snow the Product.
Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna be. I wasn't gonna be the Disney
Speaker 1: start with all the animals. I mean, I grew up
Speaker 1: in a ranch, but like, I didn't think that it
Speaker 1: came from snow White. Because my friend Crystal from high school,
Speaker 1: she was a really great singer. We always were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna sing, We're gonna live the fairytale life and
Speaker 1: running at these mansions and you're gonna sing and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wrap, and we were pretty much we thought we
Speaker 1: weren't in a guy, you know, like we're gonna be
Speaker 1: so fucking dope. And she was like, I'm Belle because
Speaker 1: my name's Crystal and I want to be a princess.
Speaker 1: She's like, which princess do you want to be? And
Speaker 1: I was like I don't fucking know. I was like,
Speaker 1: I guess which one can I be. She's like, you're
Speaker 1: really like white because at the time I was very pale.
Speaker 1: She's like snow white. And I was like, okay, snow white,
Speaker 1: that's cool. So I just kept snow white. And then
Speaker 1: we added the product at some point, just kind of
Speaker 1: a reference, like a drug reference obviously, and being dope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know, Disney wasn't gonna be cool with
Speaker 1: me being snow white, so I just will snow the
Speaker 1: product and is it it's stuck. By the way, where
Speaker 1: did this ring come from? I put it on you?
Speaker 1: She has my ring on you? Guys, I sure did
Speaker 1: put a ring on. I want you to know. It
Speaker 1: does not come off. So that's it. We locked in. Baby,
Speaker 1: you have you didn't take it off? And no, it
Speaker 1: doesn't come off, all right? He stay. If I don't
Speaker 1: see it, I'm gonna be real sad. And I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it doesn't you guys. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love her. I'm so red right now. I'm blushing
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh my god, that's funny. Oh my god. No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have it all tour, all tour. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be you're gonna see see my hand, like, did she
Speaker 1: still got the ring on? Yeah? He's stay. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: if you have to put it away, put on a
Speaker 1: necklace or something. But you know you guys, there there's
Speaker 1: there's something here. But anyways, okay, let me let me
Speaker 1: drink a little bit of coffee. Hold on me, hear
Speaker 1: my girl. One thing I absolutely apparently I love a
Speaker 1: lot of shit about you, but I absolutely love about
Speaker 1: you is that you really do represent Mexicans and I
Speaker 1: think that in everything that you do, I fucking love it.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously something that comes naturally, but did you
Speaker 1: feel that pressure or it is just something that this
Speaker 1: is this I'm proud of being who I am, where
Speaker 1: I come from. It's weird because a lot of these
Speaker 1: things just like have happened. But also so like like
Speaker 1: I told you before, so I was married early, right,
Speaker 1: and he didn't speak English. I mean he didn't speak Spanish. Sorry,
Speaker 1: he don't speak Spanish, so my like Spanish side of
Speaker 1: me wasn't really always like unless I talked to my
Speaker 1: mom and we moved to Texas, so like I wasn't
Speaker 1: near my mom or my dad, nobody really that spoke Spanish.
Speaker 1: So whatever. But eventually, like the more that I've been
Speaker 1: just kind of growing and being more around Spanish speakers
Speaker 1: and just being back to my real like Claudia, like
Speaker 1: the Jigita, I've just been more like yo, I love
Speaker 1: myself like I love myself in Spanish, like like all
Speaker 1: everything that I grew up around, everything that I was,
Speaker 1: it's like this healing my my inner child with doing
Speaker 1: everything that I know from childhood has been making has
Speaker 1: been really healing. You know, So those things are like,
Speaker 1: you know, the chickens, the goats. I wanted my son
Speaker 1: to grow up how I did in Scatecas. You know
Speaker 1: um so yeah ATVs fucking um A bunch of animals. Trees.
Speaker 1: I really want to plant, you know, more tree. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of like citrus and avocado and stuff,
Speaker 1: but I want to like plant more stuff and just
Speaker 1: be a hippie in a a in a weird way
Speaker 1: like still fucking shit, but like you know, hippie viby,
Speaker 1: like self sufficient. Yeah, self sufficiency, yes, oh my god.
Speaker 1: That that was one of my biggest dreams, is like
Speaker 1: one day having a farm and like having my own animals,
Speaker 1: growing my own food, like kind of like prints did
Speaker 1: oh I love that one day. One day it don't happen.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna tell you, let me plant a
Speaker 1: tree at your house. Absolutely, yeah, I really want lemon trees.
Speaker 1: I have a bunch lime. Yeah. I have the little
Speaker 1: Mexican lemons and the little ones. You know, Mexicans never
Speaker 1: know the difference between lemon and lime lit a little bit,
Speaker 1: little ones a little their juicy. Yeah. No, honestly, I
Speaker 1: really liked your place. I was like, do this is
Speaker 1: fucking vibi. I feel like I could sit out here
Speaker 1: and just fucking meditate and go to another world. It needed,
Speaker 1: It needed a lot of love. It needs a lot
Speaker 1: of work. But it's like that's when I become me,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like I get to that's the beautiful
Speaker 1: this place. Yeah, you're doing good, You're doing good. That's seu.
Speaker 1: I mean talking about being Mexican and the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but sometimes it makes me
Speaker 1: sad that we're so proud we're representing, you know. I
Speaker 1: feel like I can honestly say I I'm proud of
Speaker 1: the things that I've accomplished, you know, And and I
Speaker 1: didn't even really sometimes even sometimes even in English something
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's worries. I just don't say, right. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I've gotten a lot of criticism from my own people,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm like, dude, why is it? Why
Speaker 1: is it that? And I'm sure it happens a lot
Speaker 1: in different cultures, but I do see like the Asian
Speaker 1: cultures like they really support each other and they're like,
Speaker 1: come on, like let me help you. I I've noticed,
Speaker 1: and that's something that I talk about frequently. It is
Speaker 1: like dude, you see someone rising, someone doing their thing,
Speaker 1: that's tight, it's I can come thron you know. I
Speaker 1: don't know have you ever experienced that? Absolutely my whole career,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, like they say, straight up, um,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's never enough. I feel like people
Speaker 1: always want to find things in nitpick and and all that.
Speaker 1: Like every other culture, I feel like they support each other,
Speaker 1: they help each other, They collaborate a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: they try to really, you know, they come from a
Speaker 1: small island, so everybody's just so proud to be from
Speaker 1: this one little place from there to the world, you know.
Speaker 1: And with Mexico, you know, it's in some ways it's
Speaker 1: like the second US, where it's like everybody from every
Speaker 1: other country shows up there, makes a career. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of the biggest fucking streaming countries in the
Speaker 1: whole world. But Mexicans don't show that same love for
Speaker 1: to Mexicans, you know, and Mexican Americans same thing they
Speaker 1: beat with Mexicans. It's just this whole fucking thing. And
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, at some point we will, I think,
Speaker 1: grow out of that, but unfortunately we do take all
Speaker 1: the fucking hit for that because like fucking I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Everybody's just like yah, she's not as good
Speaker 1: as hers, like another person from another ethnicity, and it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: you guys, like you know, I don't know how that
Speaker 1: can cuss, but yes, like they're always yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: either fucking the like second dick, you know, but everybody else,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody else is cool. Yeah, but we were like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not cool enough, like fuck you. Yeah. Lately I've
Speaker 1: been more like I'm gonna get over there, like fuck that.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I start with this don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck attitude, because I'm like, now I'm starting to
Speaker 1: really realize. Sometimes I'll look at a hater's page and
Speaker 1: their picture and I'll be like, oh, okay, you just
Speaker 1: don't know better, you know what I mean, Like you're
Speaker 1: just a hater, Like you're just you're not happy with
Speaker 1: your life. Yeah. The comparison situation, like everyone it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're always, especially in my genre, it's it's no and yeah,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Jenny Rivera is a queen, she's a beast.
Speaker 1: There's never going to be another Jen Rivera, Like there's
Speaker 1: never gonna be a Selena, like there's never gonna be
Speaker 1: another Michael Jackson, another Prince, like they are one of
Speaker 1: a kind. And that's where I'm like, but there's room
Speaker 1: for so many of us, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It doesn't just have to be one woman and all
Speaker 1: the type of music that I say, because sometimes here
Speaker 1: and there it's like, ah, no, you're fucking not good
Speaker 1: enough or whatever, and I hate that. Like I'm learning
Speaker 1: to now what you said, not give a fuck, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like now I really believe just
Speaker 1: saying it and pretending. Now it's like I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit. I'm gonna do whatever I want. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna put me in a little box. I'm gonna step
Speaker 1: out of the box. I'm gonna do me. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why they always have to do that
Speaker 1: comparison shit, It's always so There's been plenty times when
Speaker 1: I am I see people like, yeah, this female Mexican
Speaker 1: rapper or this female Mexican rapper, and it's like, why
Speaker 1: do you guys always have to like compare and you know,
Speaker 1: push more of the collaboration and also with you, you know,
Speaker 1: like I think obviously your mom is who your mom was,
Speaker 1: you know, there is like there's I don't know why
Speaker 1: people have to bring that up, like they should let
Speaker 1: you be a human being, you know. I think now
Speaker 1: it's taken some work and I'm gonna I think I'm
Speaker 1: going an eighth year of my career as a singer
Speaker 1: and now, like because I've been diligent and like I like,
Speaker 1: I don't care, Like I'm kind of like a horse
Speaker 1: in that sense where I'm just like Memolo these Okay,
Speaker 1: they got fuck it. I'm gonna keep going because I
Speaker 1: believe in myself, you know what I mean. I know
Speaker 1: that I meant to do what I gotta do. And
Speaker 1: that's It's there's been so many times where I might
Speaker 1: fuck this and something happens that I have to keep going,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's just a god given thing,
Speaker 1: you know. So I've learned to just you know, go
Speaker 1: around that. But AnyWho, you are an independent artist, but
Speaker 1: you were with Atlantic Records right for how long? Shit,
Speaker 1: like five six years or something like that. But I
Speaker 1: was doing my own thing independently, Like basically I knew
Speaker 1: that they were gonna suck me over, which is kind
Speaker 1: of weird. I guess I already came into it all negative.
Speaker 1: But I was broke. I had like twenty dollars in
Speaker 1: the bank, I was pregnant. I had a song that
Speaker 1: was kind of blowing up on YouTube, and I was
Speaker 1: like fuck it. You know, I was in a shitty
Speaker 1: independent deal that. You know, an independent you are always
Speaker 1: going to be better. But no, they had already sucked
Speaker 1: me over and they were my people. So by the
Speaker 1: time Atlantic comes, not gonna like, well shit, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get sucked over by somebody, I'm might as well do
Speaker 1: it with the fucking major and you know, get a check.
Speaker 1: So I did. I got a check. I flipped that
Speaker 1: so I made my clothing lines merch, you know. I
Speaker 1: bought all my stuff to make my own music. And
Speaker 1: even while I was at Atlantic, I was really trying.
Speaker 1: I was really hoping that my career would would work,
Speaker 1: but they just didn't get it, you know. So I
Speaker 1: would just drop my own music on YouTube, Like I
Speaker 1: would show them something and be like, no, that's not
Speaker 1: gonna work. So I'll drop it on YouTube, I'll give
Speaker 1: million views, and then I'll do it again, and I'll
Speaker 1: do it again. I'll do it again. So it's like
Speaker 1: everything that I would show them wasn't good enough. But
Speaker 1: then when I would do it on my own for
Speaker 1: my fans, I was growing as an artist, so I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to leave, but they kept being like,
Speaker 1: give us another chance, or like now we brought this
Speaker 1: other person, give us another chance. And I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: But that's always been me as a person in relationships
Speaker 1: in business, like I always give people too many chances,
Speaker 1: and then I just regret spending so much time. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I should have left when I knew I
Speaker 1: should have left instead of being here for another Felton
Speaker 1: in your gut. Yeah. So I've been learning to trust
Speaker 1: that too. And it's a lot of financial responsibility. They'll
Speaker 1: being independent because I was independent for a little bit
Speaker 1: and then that's when I was kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: Universal was looking for me for a while, and finally
Speaker 1: I gave in. But because it was just so much,
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot people don't realize that. People are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you're fucking rich. You're balling blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, but the way we make the
Speaker 1: money is the way we need to invest it to
Speaker 1: continue the growth, you know, And people don't understand it's
Speaker 1: a lot, but you know what, and I sometimes on
Speaker 1: just some universe like human shit. I feel like the
Speaker 1: world just wasn't ready for who I was back then.
Speaker 1: Like I always say, being ahead of your time is
Speaker 1: like one of the saddest stories ever, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's like you'll never really see it till the person
Speaker 1: is gone, that you'll be like, oh shit, like that
Speaker 1: was fucking dope. And I started to finally get some
Speaker 1: sort of like I started to realize that when I
Speaker 1: was going on tour and I was like seeing some
Speaker 1: pictures of like Prince performing, or like Nirvana or like
Speaker 1: different people amy why now, And I was seeing the
Speaker 1: size venues and I'm like, oh shit, I'm doing bigger
Speaker 1: than some of those venues that were iconic moments, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And to me, because I'm this
Speaker 1: independent little rapper ga, I don't see it, like I
Speaker 1: don't appreciate what I actually have and one day I'll
Speaker 1: be gone and people will see it and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: she was doing this for so long. But I think
Speaker 1: just for so long it didn't make sense that a
Speaker 1: Mexican female queer rapper was doing what I do. And
Speaker 1: now I see more queer rappers coming out. I see
Speaker 1: more Mexican artists, I see more hip hop. They're looking
Speaker 1: for girls and when they when labels go, oh like this,
Speaker 1: they'll show me. As an example, I know a girl
Speaker 1: that just got signed with a learning for like a
Speaker 1: single deal, and she was like, they were bringing you up,
Speaker 1: like can you do what Snow is doing. I'm like
Speaker 1: they had me. I'm like they fucking handed me and
Speaker 1: they never did what they needed to do. They didn't
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Now that you're gone Nam, probably that's what's happening,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's good though. That's tight that you're
Speaker 1: doing it all on your own and you have control
Speaker 1: of your career, and I think that's tight. I mean,
Speaker 1: i'd admire that. I think that's super tight. And I
Speaker 1: think you're doing a good job. And I think that
Speaker 1: it's beautiful that you're so focused and hone in on
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm doing, and versus being like
Speaker 1: bigheaded and saying you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 1: think there's there's a lot of beauty in humility, and
Speaker 1: you're kind of like just enjoying the moment and then
Speaker 1: when you step back, you're like, oh shit, I'm actually
Speaker 1: doing like damn okay, And you could say I'm proud
Speaker 1: of myself. Can you say that? Can you say that
Speaker 1: you're proud of yourself? Yeah? Yeah, I could say I'm
Speaker 1: proud of myself. Yeah I am. And you know, one
Speaker 1: thing though that people don't get is that, you know,
Speaker 1: I love the freedom, but I always relate music to relationships.
Speaker 1: It's like, I love the freedom, but I also like
Speaker 1: not thinking sometimes. So I would love if there was
Speaker 1: a label that came in and knew exactly what to
Speaker 1: do and was like, yo, is what we're gonna do,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, lit, this is amazing, Like I love
Speaker 1: that shit, you know. But it's just that when they
Speaker 1: do that, a lot of times they don't get what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to do, so they do. I let them
Speaker 1: do what they want to do, and then I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: like you led me the wrong way around. I think
Speaker 1: one day I'll find a partner in music where we
Speaker 1: could maybe work together a lot better. And it's like
Speaker 1: some things, I don't want to make decisions on some things,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you tell me, what do you want. I
Speaker 1: like to write music. I make good songs. I show
Speaker 1: them to y'all. Do you like it? Do you not?
Speaker 1: You tell me other than that, sometimes I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do some of the bullshit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like the connection with the fans,
Speaker 1: and I like them, like focus on what you do
Speaker 1: best versus taking care of like the business side of it.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, because there's a lot of people okay, asking them,
Speaker 1: but they don't actually get shit done. It's like you've
Speaker 1: been on the phone off fucking day but on nothing,
Speaker 1: like nothing really gets handled. That's what I don't like. Better.
Speaker 1: If you the type of person and gets your handled,
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, go ahead. I'm like I'm here, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty easy going. So you are open then open to
Speaker 1: maybe someone if someone comes knocking on your door and says, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to fucking invest in your ass, I believe
Speaker 1: and you like you're open to it. Yeah, if it's
Speaker 1: the right situation. One thing people don't know about me
Speaker 1: is I'm super like universe. I trust the universe. I
Speaker 1: have faith. I know that there's so much good karma
Speaker 1: that I've had from the past. And this isn't just
Speaker 1: me saying like there's been so many situations where things happen,
Speaker 1: and I showed my character and I know that my
Speaker 1: good karma will come one day that I'm so trusting
Speaker 1: in shit coming that I'm like, when is it? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, who's gonna knock? Because it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Yeah, it definitely is. Do you suffer from anxiety? Yes,
Speaker 1: very much. It has not always been a thing or
Speaker 1: it was like it just happened more when you, I
Speaker 1: don't know, stepped into this, I think forever. I think
Speaker 1: since I was a little kid. I think back then,
Speaker 1: they didn't really know how to like explain all that.
Speaker 1: I know, my mom's always had anxiety and she's bipolar,
Speaker 1: So having a bipolar mom could definitely add on to
Speaker 1: your mental health issues. But I always had anxiety, but
Speaker 1: now now so I have coping. I have ways of coping.
Speaker 1: But definitely, I think it's physically painful for me sometimes
Speaker 1: to talk to people or like like physically painful to
Speaker 1: know that I'm going into a room where there's just
Speaker 1: gonna be like all this, Like sometimes I feel like
Speaker 1: I can't you know, it's just really a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a lot, but I take it day by
Speaker 1: day and you know, maybe sometimes that's why I never
Speaker 1: you know, blew up or like was bigger than I
Speaker 1: needed to be. I think sometimes it saved my life,
Speaker 1: you know, to kind of do it little by little
Speaker 1: because I don't know if I would have been able
Speaker 1: to handle everything. I think it happening little by little
Speaker 1: is like so much better than it going from one
Speaker 1: day to another because gomosubs Damian backass and you have to, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like just little by little book like savoring
Speaker 1: and really appreciating the moment in reality, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I feel you on that. Um. Have
Speaker 1: you ever tried microdocing? Yeah? Like truths? Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it. Not every day, but I've I've done it.
Speaker 1: Microdocing really helps. You got to put me on Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. And I got to explain it too, because
Speaker 1: it's something I've been doing for the past eight months
Speaker 1: and it's changed my life, like with anxiety, depression, confidence,
Speaker 1: Like it just you take a certain amount every three
Speaker 1: days and it's like a vitamin. You don't feel like
Speaker 1: when you take a bunch of it, you know, but
Speaker 1: you just you just feel different. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to explain it, but it just I know that
Speaker 1: it changes everything on a cellular level. So it's probably
Speaker 1: something that I don't know, just putting it out there. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I would love that, And so tell me a little bit,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know that you were married until I
Speaker 1: was on your podcast. You were married for ten years,
Speaker 1: So I have a question. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: ask you this, I'm telling you I kind of like
Speaker 1: I was having too much mone I kind of blacked
Speaker 1: out a little bit. Anyway. Okay, so you you identify
Speaker 1: as queer, So what's the difference between like lesbian and
Speaker 1: queer or like queer doesn't mean bisexual, right or does it?
Speaker 1: To me, it's always been like all encompassing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just you know, queer. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think with labels and all that, it's hard because I
Speaker 1: feel like human beings are always finding out more things
Speaker 1: about themselves and getting to know yourself, and you're always
Speaker 1: growing and you know, and things are very on a
Speaker 1: person to person level, and just I don't know. So
Speaker 1: to me, I understand that people could be gay or
Speaker 1: buy or whatever and have a real fucking connection with somebody,
Speaker 1: and really, really I'll definitely say that I don't care
Speaker 1: much for labels, like for example, I identify like me
Speaker 1: personally identify non binary. However I don't say it out
Speaker 1: loud because then people will tag that on me and
Speaker 1: then they'll be like, oh so they bubba, and it's
Speaker 1: like no, like I just don't no, I don't know,
Speaker 1: and I don't care, Like if you want to get
Speaker 1: me non binary, cool and if you don't, cool, But
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the face of it. I
Speaker 1: don't want another responsibility on me about it, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to ride, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not the voice of it. I just I just
Speaker 1: had to know that. My whole life, I've looked at
Speaker 1: myself and sometimes I feel comfortable and sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable as myself. And sometimes I have an out
Speaker 1: of body experience and I feel like I'm watching myself.
Speaker 1: And sometimes I feel like I'm in drag, whether I'm
Speaker 1: a dressed more masculine or feminine, Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's like a thing in me, And so all I
Speaker 1: can really say is like I'm just I'm just vibing.
Speaker 1: I'm just a bubble. I'm Claudia. I like what I like.
Speaker 1: If I have a connection, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I will say I see myself being with a woman
Speaker 1: for sure, Like definitely, I think it just makes more sense.
Speaker 1: That's a conversation I had with my ex husband. Was
Speaker 1: it just just makes sense? I like women they're Was
Speaker 1: it cool with it? Yeah, I mean there's been it's
Speaker 1: been very give or you know, like back and forth
Speaker 1: and stuff. Um, but eventually he was. Eventually he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know whatever makes you happy, Like when I see him,
Speaker 1: we don't have any hate or anything. We talk. He
Speaker 1: thinks all the girls like I've dated are pretty um,
Speaker 1: but that's what he hit on one of them. Oh
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah. I was like, hey, bro, like this
Speaker 1: is for real. This isn't like what the hell We're
Speaker 1: not trying to get in her panties? Like what they
Speaker 1: so like, this is fucking weird. No, you you have
Speaker 1: the well your ex girlfriend and some of the girls
Speaker 1: that we kind of talked about when when I saw
Speaker 1: you when we were I was there with you. Um,
Speaker 1: they're good looking, you have good taste. So yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: everyone keeps telling me, oh my god, Snow is so cute,
Speaker 1: she's so beautiful, and this is not I know, I
Speaker 1: know already get off her. Gag, I'm scared. But um,
Speaker 1: what's coming out to your parents? Was that tough? How
Speaker 1: did they take it? Being like especially your dad being
Speaker 1: so like traditional, you know, Mexican macho man. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: my dad I didn't talk for fourteen years because it's
Speaker 1: something he did. Um. So he did some crazy shit
Speaker 1: and then I just was like just a fucking disappointment
Speaker 1: to all of us, and so we just didn't talk.
Speaker 1: And so the first time that I saw him after
Speaker 1: fourteen years, like, I think it was me starting this
Speaker 1: journey of like really reconnecting with like maybe the past.
Speaker 1: I think I had been so dead set on my
Speaker 1: on moving forward, which is great. I didn't even realize
Speaker 1: how healthy I was for always moving forward until I
Speaker 1: started to just kind of look backwards and try to reconnect.
Speaker 1: And then I think I've just energetically mess my whole
Speaker 1: fucking life up. But whatever. But also maybe I'm going
Speaker 1: to come out of this rise from the ashes and
Speaker 1: be so much better for it, you know, So who knows.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I reconnect with him, and I took my
Speaker 1: fiance at the time, and I really didn't come out.
Speaker 1: I really was just like, this is my fiance and
Speaker 1: he was like, Okay, that was it, you know, that
Speaker 1: was it? And hey, did you document that? I think
Speaker 1: I saw that when you went actually to Mexico you
Speaker 1: took her and are you guys? You guys aren't talking
Speaker 1: right now though, right like we're not. We don't have
Speaker 1: a problem, but I you know't we're just different people.
Speaker 1: You hard to kind of maybe rekindle after so many years.
Speaker 1: And your mom, your mom's go with it. She makes
Speaker 1: her comments um here and there, like she's never really
Speaker 1: gotten along with any of my partners, whether male or female.
Speaker 1: So my mom, I just give her her space and
Speaker 1: I like let her. You know, she lives in Mexico.
Speaker 1: She she she admittedly like rather be in Mexico. She'd
Speaker 1: rather be in her own world. She'd rather not deal
Speaker 1: with anything that isn't her and for her own mental health,
Speaker 1: I'm like, go ahead. You know, I got her a car,
Speaker 1: her house, everything she needed to fix, you know, anything
Speaker 1: in her house, her phone, you know, some money. So
Speaker 1: it's like you're good, Like you're also an adult, so
Speaker 1: you know, you and your boyfriend like figure your shit out,
Speaker 1: But like I don't. I'm not her mom, you know,
Speaker 1: but she's not my mom either. Yeah, Okay, I see,
Speaker 1: and I think probably for her it was just like, okay, ef,
Speaker 1: everybody's my kids. I don't want to have the responsibility.
Speaker 1: I want to do my own thing. It's good to
Speaker 1: give people their space and eventually maybe they'll come around
Speaker 1: and realize things. He's seeing it up with that man,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so you're going on to her tell
Speaker 1: us about that. Yeah, I'm going all around the United States.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the keys I never had, which I think
Speaker 1: people are expecting it to be way more keen say
Speaker 1: than it actually is gonna be. I think people need
Speaker 1: to remember how I dress and who I am. Like
Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna have a little moment for it, but
Speaker 1: I'm also like still a crowdsurfing champagne popping. Yeah, asked
Speaker 1: smacking person. I'm not, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: So that's that's what that is. And then I come
Speaker 1: home for like a couple of weeks, and then I
Speaker 1: leave on tour with southfec Land for an arena tour.
Speaker 1: So that'll be dammy. So you're gonna be gone for
Speaker 1: a hot as minute. Yeah, I'm gonna be gone to
Speaker 1: the fall Damn. I know. We just met each other.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna have to fly to you. I
Speaker 1: don't know. We gotta figure out. I don't figure it out.
Speaker 1: And when you leave that does your son go with you?
Speaker 1: Obviously because he has school, he probably doesn't, or he homeschooled,
Speaker 1: he does, he doesn't. I'll fly him out there, or
Speaker 1: like I'll come home whatever I need to do to
Speaker 1: you know, keep back connection with my son all the time.
Speaker 1: But definitely right now, Mike, THEA just she just showed
Speaker 1: up and she's gonna live here now, so she's gonna
Speaker 1: help me more with all the house stuff and with
Speaker 1: my son with everything, because you know, I am getting
Speaker 1: so much busier and sometimes I don't know the guilt
Speaker 1: of not fully always being there for my son and
Speaker 1: not fully being there for music, always kind of thinking
Speaker 1: of both like personal life, all these things. It's just
Speaker 1: been like too much. So having my THEA and she
Speaker 1: was like a mom to me. So she's she's just
Speaker 1: very maternal, very like very nurturing and I love that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna help you so much. So I can stop
Speaker 1: looking for that for my mommy issues and girls and
Speaker 1: I could just focus, you could just I got a mom.
Speaker 1: Now we got no, but it does. Honestly, it does
Speaker 1: make like having someone, especially if it's your thea like
Speaker 1: make it makes the house feel like a home. So
Speaker 1: that's gonna give you so much peace while you're out
Speaker 1: and know that your son's in good hands and you
Speaker 1: don't got to worry about that extra shit. So as
Speaker 1: far as the house and the groceries, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: be wow. I love. Yeah. Yeah, my lady just left.
Speaker 1: She was from so she had to go back as
Speaker 1: her visa. But when she was here, just the house
Speaker 1: just feels so warm, like and I need that, like,
Speaker 1: I need that feeling. Then I get stuck doing all
Speaker 1: the sen stuff and then I can't create. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm tired to go to the fucking studio and like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we gotta figure this out. I gotta see you and
Speaker 1: go to one of your show. Yeah, but mom, we're
Speaker 1: here every day. I just be rehearsing. You saw the studio.
Speaker 1: We just saw the studio. I heard some of your
Speaker 1: music that should like stuff that you guys are ready like. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I was blowing the funk away.
Speaker 1: It's really good. And I'm not just like blowing smoke
Speaker 1: up your ass. I'm being serious out Like Richard, my
Speaker 1: manager who was with me, was like, what the fuck,
Speaker 1: He's like, this is crazy. So you I told you,
Speaker 1: I puld you on your podcast, and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: You're a badass bitch, and I hope you know that.
Speaker 1: And anyway, thank you, thank you so much, and I'm
Speaker 1: just glad, thank you so much for taking the time
Speaker 1: to be on my podcast to talk to me and
Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about Claudia. You guys follow
Speaker 1: her on her Instagram. Is there any what's your YouTube like?
Speaker 1: Share all the platforms with us please, Well YouTube obviously,
Speaker 1: Snow the product is like my music and everything, and
Speaker 1: then every Day Days is a channel where I do
Speaker 1: a little bit of vlog personal life. And then every
Speaker 1: Night Nights is my podcast which is on my Everyday
Speaker 1: Days channel. But that was supposed to be I made
Speaker 1: that channel so that it's like you're not looking for
Speaker 1: Snow the product on it, you're looking for Claudia. As
Speaker 1: you see, I've been kind of on this journey of
Speaker 1: really being like, yo, I'm a person because people people
Speaker 1: just would talk to me or treat me as if
Speaker 1: I'm Snow the product, and they were very aggressive and
Speaker 1: abrasive with me because they think I'm this hard person.
Speaker 1: And so it got to a point where I needed
Speaker 1: to remind people like, that's not who I am, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna make me cry, Like the amount of times
Speaker 1: that I've cried with how I was treated because they
Speaker 1: thought I'm cocky or they thought I'm this or that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's not who I am. That's just
Speaker 1: a rapper. That's a rapper. So Claudia, Claudia. Yes, but again,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. And you guys know,
Speaker 1: on my ill listeners, we always end every episode with
Speaker 1: a motivational quote. All right, if you guys know, I'm
Speaker 1: huge on discipline, routine, and here's a discipline quote for
Speaker 1: you guys. Discipline is choosing between what you want now
Speaker 1: and what you want most play back, Okay. Discipline is
Speaker 1: choosing between what you want now and what you want most.
Speaker 1: Discipline you, guys, it will take you very very far
Speaker 1: discipline and consistency. So anyways, I'll leave you guys with
Speaker 1: that Snow. Thank you, thank you, You're beautiful inside and
Speaker 1: now and thank you. Yes, I crush on you Heart,
Speaker 1: Heart Heart, Um. I hope you enjoyed this conversation as
Speaker 1: much as I did. And don't forget to listen to
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