Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty Armstrong and Katty I know
Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3: The Boeing astronauts who are stredded at the International Space
Speaker 3: Station for nine months finally returned to Earth.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: They're the first people in history to honestly text someone sorry,
Speaker 3: just saw this. Yeah, they were up there for nine months,
Speaker 3: or as the two astronauts put it, there's three of
Speaker 3: us now.
Speaker 2: And I heard one of the astronauts, you know, talking
Speaker 2: about the good and bad of it. And like you
Speaker 2: said last hour, you're an astronaut. I've you worked your
Speaker 2: whole life. You want to go into space, you get
Speaker 2: to stay in space longer. I'm sure in general that's
Speaker 2: pretty awesome. But he said, I missed most of my
Speaker 2: daughter's senior year of high school. I wasn't planning on that.
Speaker 2: And they're not going to say this out loud, but
Speaker 2: there had to be plenty of things they are looking
Speaker 2: on the calendar. Missed her sister's wedding. Not a bad deal,
Speaker 2: you know, things like that. Maybe high school.
Speaker 4: Didn't help you with the Texas this year. It says
Speaker 4: in space right exactly.
Speaker 2: Certain things like that probably didn't mind. So Chuck Schumer
Speaker 2: was on the view YT he's making the rounds because
Speaker 2: he's got this book out, which I actually heard a
Speaker 2: little bit about it. I'm glad he wrote it, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting. He's worried about the rise of
Speaker 2: anti Semitism in the United States, including in his own
Speaker 2: party among your college kids, and he's out talking about it.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of cool. Chuck Schumer is an ancient
Speaker 2: Democratic Senator from New York who has been majority leader
Speaker 2: in the Senator various times. Now he's the minority leader.
Speaker 4: Is the king of the Senate on the Democrat side.
Speaker 2: So he got some blowback last week because he went
Speaker 2: along with the Republican legislation that kept the government open
Speaker 2: and the aocs of the world that wing Bernie Sanders,
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren, those people wanted to shut down the government.
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer said there was no win in it, and
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi yesterday said she kind of hit him with
Speaker 2: a little uh. She still supports him, but I don't
Speaker 2: believe in giving something away for nothing, she said after that.
Speaker 2: In that Chuck went along with it, but didn't get anything,
Speaker 2: which is true. Nancy Pelosi was good at that. Trump's
Speaker 2: good at that. If you're gonna get something from me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get something from you. Always. If only they
Speaker 2: knew what they wanted. Really, maybe that's a problem. They're
Speaker 2: so scattered. Anyway, I didn't mean to talk about that.
Speaker 2: So he's on the view and he said something that
Speaker 2: really bothered me.
Speaker 5: So we'll start here the Republican Party.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
Speaker 2: wait wait, I don't want that yet. Where we're going
Speaker 2: to start with. Remember Jerry Brown. Uh, So we're going
Speaker 2: to start here. This goes back to the governor of
Speaker 2: California few years back, four term governor. He was the
Speaker 2: youngest governor of California for two terms. That he was
Speaker 2: the oldest governor in California for two terms. He did
Speaker 2: date a young Linda Ronstadt, which is a feather in
Speaker 2: his cap.
Speaker 3: Mmm.
Speaker 2: You can't take that away from all. Yeah, but he
Speaker 2: once said this about the way economics works.
Speaker 6: I guess those who have been blessed the most, who
Speaker 6: have disproportionately attracted by whatever skill more and more from
Speaker 6: the national wealth, they're going to have to share more
Speaker 6: of that.
Speaker 2: It's on the idea of paying taxes that those who
Speaker 2: have disproportionately extracted from the economy.
Speaker 4: More from the national wealth, from the national wealth. So
Speaker 4: success is taking money from the nation. It's not creating
Speaker 4: jobs and money and products and greater wealth for everyone.
Speaker 2: No, it's a limited pie.
Speaker 4: And you took more than your share by building a
Speaker 4: successful business.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's not yours, it's the nations and the
Speaker 2: steward of that money is the government, which we get
Speaker 2: to here with Juck Schumer on the view when he
Speaker 2: said this yesterday.
Speaker 5: The Republican Party is a different kettle of fish than
Speaker 5: it used to be, and that's why we're fighting them
Speaker 5: so hard. They are controlled by a small group of wealthy,
Speaker 5: greedy people. And you know what their attitude is, I
Speaker 5: made my money all by myself. How dare your government
Speaker 5: take my money from me. I don't want to pay taxes,
Speaker 5: or I built my company with my bare hands. How
Speaker 5: dare your government tell me how I should treat my customers,
Speaker 5: the land and water that I own, or my employees.
Speaker 5: They hate government. Government's a bar to people, a barrier
Speaker 5: to stop them from doing things. They want to destroy
Speaker 5: it we are not letting them do it, and we're united.
Speaker 2: So again, if you missed that in there these greedy
Speaker 2: people who make money who want to keep more of
Speaker 2: their money. Their attitude is, I made my money all
Speaker 2: by myself. How dare your government take my money from me? Yeah,
Speaker 2: well summarized, and so that's an interesting philosophical breakdown. I know,
Speaker 2: I know people personally who believe that and think that way.
Speaker 2: That you're out there going to work making money. I
Speaker 2: guess for the government. It runs through the government, and
Speaker 2: then you get to keep some of it, but it's
Speaker 2: the government's money to spend on, you know, good things
Speaker 2: that make everybody better, happier or something like that.
Speaker 4: And other people will, through the government, take your money
Speaker 4: from you as much as they decide is proper, and
Speaker 4: they will let you keep some of it. Perhaps, as
Speaker 4: the great Thomas Soul said so famously, I have never
Speaker 4: understood why it is greed to want to keep the
Speaker 4: money you have earned, but not greed to want to
Speaker 4: take someone else's money.
Speaker 2: I found that absolutely fascinating. I mean that that is
Speaker 2: some big time philosophical disagreement on the structure of society. Yes,
Speaker 2: and I would.
Speaker 4: Love to reduce our politics now and again, maybe we
Speaker 4: can have one week a year where we have learned,
Speaker 4: folks of you know, each side's choosing debate in front
Speaker 4: of the nation, the notion of either a what you
Speaker 4: earn is yours. Now we the people ask you for
Speaker 4: a little bit of it to help run the country.
Speaker 2: Rhodes Police, Army, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But indeed we have past laws saying the government gets
Speaker 4: a little bit of it to run itself, versus the
Speaker 4: folks who say, no, the government gets all of it.
Speaker 4: If we decide to take all of it.
Speaker 2: It's not your money at all, it never has been.
Speaker 4: That goes back and then I would love then in
Speaker 4: the follow up a part my side would would say, well,
Speaker 4: then why the hell would anybody bust their ass to
Speaker 4: build a business if y'all are going to take it
Speaker 4: all or half of.
Speaker 2: It, which is why socialism doesn't work. Should have dug
Speaker 2: up the Barack Obama clip, the famous one that he
Speaker 2: got beat up for a fair amount by anybody on
Speaker 2: the right. Anyway, you didn't build that. It's the idea
Speaker 2: that government has put in place a structure for you
Speaker 2: to go out and be successful and so you owe
Speaker 2: that money to the government because they put all this
Speaker 2: together for you to be successful. The government is the
Speaker 2: reason you're successful. That's what Jack Schumer's saying.
Speaker 4: Building a business with five hundred employees, it's like falling
Speaker 4: off a log thanks to the government.
Speaker 2: So we get most of it. I mean, he whi
Speaker 2: his mocking voice when he said, I made my money
Speaker 2: all by myself? How dare your government take my money
Speaker 2: from me? Okay, I'll say the same thing in my
Speaker 2: regular voice. I made my money all by myself. How
Speaker 2: dare the freaking government take it from me? There, I
Speaker 2: said it without the mocking voice, because that's what I
Speaker 2: actually believe.
Speaker 4: I understand how a leech on the public like Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 4: who like you know, Joe Biden or a thousand other
Speaker 4: politicians on both sides of the aisle have made their
Speaker 4: wealth and their power purely from draining the vital fluids
Speaker 4: of the American people. How actual production is foreign to them.
Speaker 4: I'd love to have Mark Wayne Mullen talk to Chuck
Speaker 4: Schumer about that. Mark WAYN Mullen, who built a He
Speaker 4: was a plumber. He built a plumbing contracting business in Oklahoma,
Speaker 4: became he's a senator now for Oklahoma. If you don't
Speaker 4: know Mark Wayne, talk to him at the RNC. It
Speaker 4: was great fun and very interesting. But have him discussed
Speaker 4: with Chuck Schumer what it takes to build a business
Speaker 4: as opposed to just, you know, again, being a parasite
Speaker 4: on the height of the American people.
Speaker 2: That's something I mean that I find that highly troubling
Speaker 2: that that attitude even exists out there, let alone could
Speaker 2: win the day.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the fact that Chuck Schumer promotes it is
Speaker 4: not that shocking to me. The fact that tens of millions,
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million Americans think the same way.
Speaker 2: Now that bothers me.
Speaker 5: I made my money all by myself. How dare your
Speaker 5: government take my money from me. I don't want to
Speaker 5: pay taxes.
Speaker 2: You don't have to use the cartoonish voice. That's what
Speaker 2: I actually believe, me and me and lots of people, and.
Speaker 4: I think virtually nobody says I don't want to have
Speaker 4: to pay taxes. No, I don't want to have to
Speaker 4: pay excessive taxes that are purely a redistribution of wealth
Speaker 4: to gain you power, Because I know with one hundred
Speaker 4: send certainty that's what you do, you make moral arguments
Speaker 4: and compassionate arguments to get giant gobs of money to
Speaker 4: enhance your own power and influence.
Speaker 2: First of all, if you keep your money. Sometimes people
Speaker 2: do things that are really good for society, you know,
Speaker 2: build a rocket company or charity or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But what if you just go out and buy expensive
Speaker 2: houses and cars if you're super wealthy for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: It's Kensian when the government spreads money around, because it's
Speaker 2: just good spending money. But if an individual spends money,
Speaker 2: it's not Kensian and not good for the economy. Is
Speaker 2: fine with me, signed.
Speaker 4: Everybody who worked on building that house and or car,
Speaker 4: and or services it or fixes that house or whatever, or.
Speaker 2: It's a restaurant and has employees.
Speaker 4: My final note on this topic will be something I've
Speaker 4: said many times through the years and will continue to
Speaker 4: if you will allow me. You good people, imagine a
Speaker 4: charity that can fee to clothe, house, medicate and educate
Speaker 4: thousands of children thousands of children. That charity is called
Speaker 4: a business with employees who get pay and benefits. You
Speaker 4: have accomplished all those things I described by starting a
Speaker 4: successful business.
Speaker 2: They don't see it that way. On the left, I made.
Speaker 5: My money all by myself. How dare your government take
Speaker 5: my money from me? I don't want to pay taxes?
Speaker 2: True?
Speaker 4: That is true if this were not being broadcast live.
Speaker 4: I have a simple two word response that rhymes with duck.
Speaker 2: Who any take on that text line four one five
Speaker 2: two nine five KFTC have a number of big.
Speaker 4: Topics to get to Trump and putin Trump versus the courts.
Speaker 4: We're already socialists and medicine and much more. But I
Speaker 4: thought we'd pause and enjoy this. A note from man
Speaker 4: I got a memory like an old guy. I wonder why?
Speaker 4: From Juliana, who uh who writes I'll see your theory
Speaker 4: of water and I raise you future lesbian dance theory
Speaker 4: professors and their their graduate degrees and their theses. So
Speaker 4: that was referring to the featurette we did you see?
Speaker 4: Berkeley's lecture series included some woman lecturing about the theory
Speaker 4: of water, and it was some of the most meaningless, ridiculous,
Speaker 4: woke mumbo jumble we've ever heard in her lives. So
Speaker 4: she thinks she can do better. These are the graduation
Speaker 4: videos by I think there. I think they're graduate degree
Speaker 4: students like masters.
Speaker 2: Most students. Yeah, yeah, let's let's hear it. Michael, him,
Speaker 2: My name's Nikki. I'm studying Latin American women in visual culture.
Speaker 6: Yeah him, Melanie, I'm studying the unseen body and created
Speaker 6: spaces of a racial.
Speaker 2: Exposure of the queer im Nina, and I studied the
Speaker 2: arts education of social.
Speaker 1: I'm sudy colonial intimacies as politics resistency, and.
Speaker 2: I studied remembering or forgetting but not navigating international conflict
Speaker 2: to collective memory im fun. I study monstrosity the sub
Speaker 2: alternate practices, especially I created it. Hi, I'm yell.
Speaker 5: I'm studying living artfully our at ritual therapy and pathway
Speaker 5: to decoloniality.
Speaker 2: Do we have jobs for that? Yes, it's called Starbucks?
Speaker 2: Are those written down anywhere? Because I couldn't quite understand this? Okay? Indeed, yeah,
Speaker 2: ready to go.
Speaker 4: Uh first one, I'm studying Latin American women and visual culture.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see rolling along. I'm Melanie.
Speaker 4: I'm studying the unseen body and creative spaces of erasure
Speaker 4: and exposure of the queer.
Speaker 2: Gary. Do we have jobs for that? Called Starbucks? Do
Speaker 2: we have jobs seeing? Yeah, it's called Starbucks.
Speaker 4: Already cheers, Hey, I'm Nina, and I studied the arts,
Speaker 4: education and social justice.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm Joyce.
Speaker 4: I study decolonial intimacies indigenous politics of resistance. Now all right, okay,
Speaker 4: how does intimacy come into it? I study remembering or forgetting,
Speaker 4: navigating international conflict or collective memory.
Speaker 2: Well, and can you is there like a whole degree?
Speaker 2: I mean, if it's a class, I would think, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's amazing.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's it's like a PhD where you
Speaker 4: have your thesis and you flesh it out at all.
Speaker 2: It's it and it can be something weird. But yeah,
Speaker 2: but I mean you'd have to dedicate a lot of time,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, and a hell of a lot of money,
Speaker 2: and a lot of these people get taxpayer moneies and
Speaker 2: their schools do certainly, and they're all in joy and
Speaker 2: gets published in a journal that nobody reads, and you
Speaker 2: all congratulate each other on your published papers and each
Speaker 2: other's journals that nobody has ever read.
Speaker 4: And you go into academia, and Julianne put it, you
Speaker 4: become a future lesbian dance theory professor.
Speaker 2: I like this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Iman and I studied the theory of monstrosity,
Speaker 4: the subaltern and practice or should I say waiting waiting
Speaker 4: or should I say.
Speaker 2: I created it?
Speaker 4: And she's laughing, So she just made s up that
Speaker 4: fit the woke, you know, the word salad you a
Speaker 4: paradigm that her school allows, and then just invented it
Speaker 4: and then just got it to the PhD in it.
Speaker 2: I am nanyala. I'm studying living artfully.
Speaker 4: Art is ritual therapy and pathway to decoloniality, really big
Speaker 4: and colonizing, and uh.
Speaker 2: I not just trying to do the classic How are
Speaker 2: you going to make a living? But how do they
Speaker 2: intend to make a living? Do they all just all
Speaker 2: those people intend to stay in academia, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Or they'll run a DEI office at some poor stupid
Speaker 4: corporation that fell prey to neo Marxism because they were
Speaker 4: terrified of activists, or they're just you know, run by
Speaker 4: dopey people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that academic world is interesting. You can get those
Speaker 2: niche like studies and then you all plan to just
Speaker 2: stay in that world and then teach the next crowd
Speaker 2: of twenty somethings the same sort of stuff, and it
Speaker 2: just it grows and more money goes to it and
Speaker 2: it just becomes all sillier and surely we've reached about
Speaker 2: the end of the road on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you wait till democrats are in the White House.
Speaker 4: Then you get enormous grants to study all of that
Speaker 4: mumbo jumbo we were just discussing and wow, then go
Speaker 4: to Abram x Kendy's short lived institute.
Speaker 2: There are way too many teslas on fire across the country.
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that, among other things. If
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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty on the streets of Herson, anyone is
Speaker 1: fair game. Every day, swarms of Russian drones on a
Speaker 1: deadly hunt that locals have dubbed a human safari. They
Speaker 1: target the.
Speaker 7: Old and the young, men and women flying low, they
Speaker 7: taunt and terrorize their prey. Russian social media is a
Speaker 7: wash with these videos, complete with heavy metal soundtracks and
Speaker 7: gloating comments. But to the people of Herson, this is
Speaker 7: anything but a game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw some of this report yesterday. It's something
Speaker 2: and this is probably the future of warfare like you
Speaker 2: were talking about the other day. But you'll be out
Speaker 2: and about as a Ukrainian and walking down the street
Speaker 2: and a little drone shows up and just starts following
Speaker 2: and you're like, it's like a bee, like, get away
Speaker 2: from me. What are you doing? I mean, you're like,
Speaker 2: you know, running or dodging around. It just keeps falling
Speaker 2: and it might it might kill you, might kill you,
Speaker 2: or you might be on the other side of the
Speaker 2: street seeing this happen to somebody and it just you know,
Speaker 2: blasts them. Wow. Human safari that's why they call it.
Speaker 2: And it's just and it would seem the point of
Speaker 2: is it just kind of chasing you around is to terrorize,
Speaker 2: to make everybody very afraid, stay in your home, not
Speaker 2: be able to function as a society, be more likely
Speaker 2: to give in to whatever demands there are from Putent
Speaker 2: and this war. But that's probably the future of warfare,
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and worse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been reading about microdrones forever that will fly
Speaker 4: in swarms, that will be imperceptible individual drones. They'll be tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny,
Speaker 4: you might be able to see a cloud of something,
Speaker 4: but they will literally fly into the lungs of the
Speaker 4: opposing forces and set off little detonations that'll kill people instantly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a different thing. This thing, I think it
Speaker 2: being big enough to see is the point of it,
Speaker 2: to make everybody so scared. You see these things flat.
Speaker 4: An dropping dead with exposed exploded lungs, that'd be plenty frightening.
Speaker 2: So let's get a couple of different perspectives on what
Speaker 2: went down yesterday between Putin and Trump and the phone call.
Speaker 2: Here's something you might not know. It's been described various
Speaker 2: lengths in various settings that I took in this information
Speaker 2: yesterday anyway from an hour to two hours. I hadn't
Speaker 2: heard this. So Putin was doing an event yesterday, public
Speaker 2: event like taking questions and talking to people while he
Speaker 2: was supposed to be on the phone with Trump. Here's
Speaker 2: a reporting on that. Putin was meant to be speaking
Speaker 2: to Trump at this time, he's talking to a room
Speaker 2: full of oligarchs instead. He was asked by one of
Speaker 2: the reporters if he's going to be late for his
Speaker 2: phone call. Putin waved it off and smiled and said, Ah,
Speaker 2: don't worry about that, so kind of I'll get to
Speaker 2: it when I get to it. Punking the President of
Speaker 2: the United States and looking cool in front of his
Speaker 2: oligarch buddies. I don't know if Trump was aware of
Speaker 2: that or not. I wouldn't think Trump would dig that.
Speaker 2: No one the kind of guy Trump is, I wonder
Speaker 2: if he's aware of it. Now.
Speaker 4: Well that's I mean, you don't need to be some
Speaker 4: sort of body language expert or you know, an expert
Speaker 4: on corporate governance procedures to understand what that message that was.
Speaker 2: Right. Here's ABC's view of the phone call.
Speaker 8: After more than two hours speaking directly to President Trump,
Speaker 8: Vladimir Putin did not agree to the unconditional US backed
Speaker 8: thirty day ceasefire plan that Ukraine already signed on to.
Speaker 8: Trump says his call with Putin was very good and productive,
Speaker 8: adding the Russian leader agreed to move quickly toward a
Speaker 8: permanent peace, but Putin doubled down on his key demand
Speaker 8: that the West cut off all military aid and intelligence
Speaker 8: sharing with Ukraine.
Speaker 2: So ABC, portraying it is did not agree to the
Speaker 2: ceasefire agreement that Ukraine had signed on too. Here is
Speaker 2: over on Fox. This is Steve Whitkoff. Who is he?
Speaker 4: He's one of the lead diplomats who's work in the
Speaker 4: Middle East and the Russia Ukraine thing. I think he
Speaker 4: was the main guy who flew to Saudi Arabia to
Speaker 4: hash things out with the Russian representatives.
Speaker 2: Here he is on Hannity describing how he sees it
Speaker 2: went down.
Speaker 9: The ceasefire with regard to energy infrastructure and secondly the
Speaker 9: Black Sea maritime aspect of a ceasefire. I think both
Speaker 9: of those are now agreed.
Speaker 2: To by the Russians.
Speaker 9: I am certainly hopeful that the Ukrainians will agree to it.
Speaker 9: We have some details to work out, of course, but
Speaker 9: that will begin on Sunday in Jetta. Beyond that we'll
Speaker 9: move to a full cease fire. And we had some
Speaker 9: very good conversation today on the ingredients to achieve that.
Speaker 4: Okay, cough is engaging in the technique where you say
Speaker 4: we're absolutely going to get a deal. Of course, we're
Speaker 4: going to get a deal. We'll get a deal. It's
Speaker 4: part of negotiating. Depending on how much power and leverage
Speaker 4: you have in the negotiation, you put the other person
Speaker 4: in a box that if they blow it up, then
Speaker 4: they've blown up an obvious deal. But no, they're miles
Speaker 4: ages away from an actual deal.
Speaker 2: Here's the dispatches take on it today. Vladimir Putin agreed
Speaker 2: to immediately halt attack on energy facilities on the condition
Speaker 2: that Ukraine does the same. That is, like one of
Speaker 2: Ukraine's only tools that has done any damage is their
Speaker 2: ability to attack Russian energy infrastructure, and Putin would like
Speaker 2: that to go away. Okay, I'll stop attacking your energy,
Speaker 2: you stop and targeting are and then I'll just kill
Speaker 2: people in the street like you just heard. And can
Speaker 2: you continue to take land and etc.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we will cease hostilities in any avenue of war
Speaker 4: where you have a significant not superiority, eypt, but just
Speaker 4: significant power. The stuff where we have significant power. That's
Speaker 4: the game on.
Speaker 2: Both Russia and Ukraine accused one another of launching air
Speaker 2: attacks on infrastructure sites within hours of the call, so
Speaker 2: that didn't slow anything down. I don't do you see
Speaker 2: anything coming out of this? Can you imagine this going anywhere? Yeah,
Speaker 2: exactly where Putin wants it to be. Long delays, a
Speaker 2: partial disarming or constraining of Ukraine while he does what
Speaker 2: he needs to do to continue his wars of conquest
Speaker 2: in the years to come. It will be it'll be
Speaker 2: a great deal, like negotiating with Kim Jong mun or something.
Speaker 2: You have you know, the various statements that, well, we're
Speaker 2: very close to an agreement, this could be historic, blah blah,
Speaker 2: and then it all gets blown up the next week.
Speaker 2: Do we have any car? So in a negotiation, you
Speaker 2: got to have some cards, and you know, Trump famously
Speaker 2: now told Zelenski, they're in the Oval office, you don't
Speaker 2: have any cards. Do we have any cards?
Speaker 4: David Ignacious of the Washington Post, who you know, I
Speaker 4: don't always agree with, but he is a very very
Speaker 4: smart guy. In a longtime observer of international relations rights,
Speaker 4: President Donald Trump appears far more eager for a peace
Speaker 4: deal in Ukraine than does President Vladimir Putin, Russian president.
Speaker 4: That's the obvious takeaway from Tuesday's two hour call between
Speaker 4: the two leaders. Trump comes across as an avid suitor
Speaker 4: in his brief upbeat readout of the conversation, describing the
Speaker 4: talks as very good and productive.
Speaker 2: Putin is more guarded.
Speaker 4: In the longer Kremlin version, friendly but un yielding on
Speaker 4: his basic demands. He agreed to a thirty day pause
Speaker 4: quote in attacks on energy infrastructure facilities. Ukraine had endorsed
Speaker 4: Trump's proposal for a seafire on all fronts for that
Speaker 4: period it highlighted differences more than agreement.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, you know that happens a lot
Speaker 2: of times at the very beginning of a negotiation. Again,
Speaker 2: for the tenth time, I'm reading a book about the
Speaker 2: Middle East piece talks with Carter Begen and Sadat, And
Speaker 2: I mean, they started as far apart as you could
Speaker 2: possibly get. The first several days of their thirteen day
Speaker 2: summit that ended up with them all sharing a Nobel
Speaker 2: Peace Prize didn't seem like there was any chance whatsoever
Speaker 2: they could come to an agreement. But I both sides
Speaker 2: had something to gain. I don't see, I don't see
Speaker 2: why Putin would agree to this.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And if Saddad had already gobbled up thirty percent
Speaker 4: of Israel and was gaining ground on the rest of it.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have been there. No, no, And he thought,
Speaker 2: we're gonna win, We're gonna we're gonna boot him out,
Speaker 2: We're gonna take over all of Israel. Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Back to the Middle East piece talks back in
Speaker 2: the seventies completely situation, and that it would be like
Speaker 2: if Ukraine had just defeated Russia a couple of times
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years. Do you want it again?
Speaker 2: Do you want us to kick your ass again and
Speaker 2: take more of your country or are you gonna stop?
Speaker 2: Ukraine would be saying to Russia the way Israel said
Speaker 2: to Egypt and the surrounding countries. But that ain't the situation. Yeah.
Speaker 4: At the same time, your original point remains. Sometimes you
Speaker 4: seem to be miles and miles apart, and that stuff
Speaker 4: gets fixed more a little more from David Ignatius in
Speaker 4: the Washington Post. Putin made maximalist initial demands to prevent
Speaker 4: quote escalation of the conflict. He said, the United States
Speaker 4: and its allies must accept quote complete cessation of foreign
Speaker 4: military aid and the provision of intelligence information to KIV.
Speaker 4: Of course, that would make it much much more vulnerable
Speaker 4: to devastating Russia attacks. Yeah, and Putin, who's unprovoked assaults
Speaker 4: began this war three years ago painted Ukraine as the villain.
Speaker 4: The Kremlin account said Keev had sabotaged and violated past
Speaker 4: agreements and committed barb barrack terrorist crimes in its invasion
Speaker 4: of the Curse region and shown an inability to negotiate. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's rich. Let's see the Wall Street editorial board. Putin
Speaker 4: rejects the Trump cease fire the Russians wants. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: the Russian wants much bigger concessions that.
Speaker 2: Would cripple Ukraine.
Speaker 4: Uh Trump's call with Putin signals long road ahead to
Speaker 4: Russia Ukraine deal. The Russian leader did not agree to
Speaker 4: a full cease fire and presented his own demands stand
Speaker 4: the fighting. In the New York Post pointing out shameless
Speaker 4: Putin snubs Trump as he plunges Ukrainian city into darkness.
Speaker 4: Russia left the Ukrainian city in total darkness overnight Wednesday
Speaker 4: after launching drones targeting energy infrastructure in two hospitals, less
Speaker 4: than two hours after pleasure President Vladimir Putin promised Trump
Speaker 4: he would halt such attacks.
Speaker 2: I meant to lead with this gallop polling that came
Speaker 2: out yesterday just to bolster my own opinion that want.
Speaker 2: I want Russia to get booted out and be too
Speaker 2: scared to ever try this again. And I want us
Speaker 2: to arm and do whatever we got to do to
Speaker 2: help Ukraine. That's been my basis. You're a neocon, still
Speaker 2: my position. I had a point on this. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe my point will come back. But this polling yesterday
Speaker 2: from Gallup, USA not doing enough? Is it forty six percent?
Speaker 2: It's up sixteen points since December. Why has USA not
Speaker 2: doing enough gone up sixteen points since December? Anyway, if
Speaker 2: you combine that with the right amount, you're at about
Speaker 2: seventy percent. Between right amount and not doing enough seventy percent.
Speaker 2: So those of you who really hate this, you're you're
Speaker 2: definitely in the minority. USA doing too much is thirty percent.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you're wrong, but you're in the minority politically
Speaker 2: right right. I'd love to talk to jd Vance about
Speaker 2: all this stuff. Maybe he puts out he'll billy Elogy
Speaker 2: two the Ukraine years now.
Speaker 4: It's personal or right, I don't know, electric Googaloo, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh, that is what I's gonna say. I hope the
Speaker 2: best bet for people like me who want to do
Speaker 2: more to help Ukraine and punish Russia. Is Trump gets
Speaker 2: butt hurt, Trump gets personally offended, feels like Putin's punking
Speaker 2: him on the world stage, and he's like, all right,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's that's my hope is that Trump's personality
Speaker 2: gets wounded and and and and then that drives him
Speaker 2: to like do what we can do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of sad, but that would get it done. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that may be the only thing that gets it done.
Speaker 4: Putin is an incredibly skilled, manipulating manipulator of human beings.
Speaker 4: He's working hard to make that not happen. Although that
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, don't worry about it. I'll get to
Speaker 4: the call when I get to it. Thing in public
Speaker 4: with the oligarchs. That was interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, we got a lot more on the way. Uh,
Speaker 2: there's something I want to tease was really good. Better
Speaker 2: remember what it was, so.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what hour three for me. One thing
Speaker 4: I really want to get to is Trump versus the courts.
Speaker 4: Is it a constitutional crisis? The Chief Justice admonishing the president?
Speaker 4: What does it all mean?
Speaker 2: If you can get away from the mega woke mega woke, it's.
Speaker 4: Some pretty interesting wrestling matches going on between the executive
Speaker 4: branch and the courts right now worth taking a look at.
Speaker 2: And there's another pull out about people's attitudes on the whole.
Speaker 2: Dudes in women's sports, how long are you gonna fight
Speaker 2: this battle? Anyway? Stay here. Kanye West dropped a new
Speaker 2: song over the weekend featuring his daughter North and Diddy.
Speaker 2: Kanye put his eleven year old daughter on a song
Speaker 2: with well, if there's one guy you aren't working with
Speaker 2: your kid, it's uncle baby Oil for sure. And Kim Kardashian,
Speaker 2: who's the mom, was really unhappy about that. And I
Speaker 2: read something about trying to get a judge to some
Speaker 2: I don't know if that actually ever came to anything. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Kanye's on a roll.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he deleted the track after she served him paper.
Speaker 4: She's got her daughter's name copyrighted, by the way, trademarked because.
Speaker 2: You're a Kardashian and that's the way you roll. So
Speaker 2: ye his yee feed, he's got a Kanye West on Twitter,
Speaker 2: and then he's got his yee feed, which has thirty
Speaker 2: three million followers. Of course, a big chunk of those
Speaker 2: are just there to watch the car wreck right right.
Speaker 4: It's not like you folding car wreck. Yeah, train rack
Speaker 4: can So how.
Speaker 2: Many tweets, Katie, You've been following this more closely than us,
Speaker 2: You've read through the tweets. You have any idea how
Speaker 2: many tweets he put out yesterday? Because I'm looking at
Speaker 2: these are all seven and eight hours old, so and
Speaker 2: there's just a stream, a stream of them from overnight,
Speaker 2: and there's easily over one hundred and he's still going
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, they're all caps, all capital letters, and like,
Speaker 2: I'll just read a random one and all caps. The
Speaker 2: only thing that I was mad about in the last
Speaker 2: few hours was taking that jay Z and Beyonce tweet down.
Speaker 2: Dame Dash signed me, by the way, not jay Z.
Speaker 2: So he's in some sort of beef with that couple.
Speaker 2: What do you know what tweet he took down? When
Speaker 2: he I mean, if if he took it down, if
Speaker 2: it was too much for him, it must have really
Speaker 2: been something. I can't remember exactly what the tweet was,
Speaker 2: but it had something to do with their kids. What's
Speaker 2: what's interesting about this? Now you're saying he actually he
Speaker 2: had to take down his song. So Kim Kardashian's legal
Speaker 2: maneuvers must have done something. So do you see where
Speaker 2: he's selling Black Clan robes, which he describes as supple
Speaker 2: and soft. I did not what's a black Clan robe?
Speaker 2: It's a KKK robe, but it's black. But like, what's
Speaker 2: the message there? The messages? I'm psychotic? But is he?
Speaker 2: So that's what I was trying to say. So he
Speaker 2: took down some tweet about jay Z and Beyonce and
Speaker 2: they got a lot of money in power and lawyers,
Speaker 2: and he took down his song because Kim Kardashian went
Speaker 2: to a judge. So he's not so crazy that he
Speaker 2: doesn't get that, like when he's crossed the line into
Speaker 2: damaging some self financially or jail time or something like that.
Speaker 2: So what is that? Are you?
Speaker 4: You're asking for a logical description of a profound mental illness, But.
Speaker 2: He's not so mentally ill that he doesn't get reality
Speaker 2: at some level, which makes you have to wonder how
Speaker 2: much of it is just he could control this but
Speaker 2: he didn't care. Oh, I don't. I don't agree with
Speaker 2: you at all, you don't think so somebody as.
Speaker 4: Mentally ill as Kanye is not consistent. That's that's part
Speaker 4: of the deal. Man, go through more of those tweets.
Speaker 4: Holy cow, No, this is this is a man who
Speaker 4: has a serious mental illness but enough money to keep
Speaker 4: the normal forces at bad.
Speaker 2: Do you think lawyers come to him and say, hey, hey, yay,
Speaker 2: you got to take down the song because Kim's lawyer
Speaker 2: says blah blah blah, and he says, oh, all right,
Speaker 2: I think it's like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be, yeah, based on his affection for
Speaker 4: the child and maybe Kim still because he famously didn't
Speaker 4: want to be sent packing.
Speaker 2: Do you think he's actually a Nazi? No, he's mentally ill,
Speaker 2: So you don't. You're answered all these questions to be
Speaker 2: he's mentally ill. Yes, oh yeah, m hm hm. Why
Speaker 2: does do this? Because he mentally ill? Why doesn't he
Speaker 2: do that? So it's his Super Bowl ad which pointed
Speaker 2: you to his website that only sold sweatshirts with a
Speaker 2: swastik on it see above answer. So this is what
Speaker 2: it'd be like to be crazy if you had a
Speaker 2: ton of money. Yeah, yeah, essentially, which we've never really
Speaker 2: seen displayed like this before other than maybe Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2: Howard Hughes back in the day another great example, although
Speaker 2: he kept to himself. He's famously erect. Clue Kanye not
Speaker 2: so much. Yeah, Howard chuses more long fingernails and toenails
Speaker 2: in a hotel room. Kanye is more of a I'm
Speaker 2: down with Nazis. Oh, I wonder how this is going
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