1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody? Welcome in to Wednesday edition of Texas 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: John Harris, and at this moment, I am making it 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: four for four on Sports Radio six ten. I did 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: all four hours of Penny Pettigrass with Seth Payne from 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: six to ten this morning. I will do that tomorrow 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: as well, and then Friday I will be doing it 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: with Cecil Shorts as Seth gets a much deserved day 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: off on Friday. I then jumped in for one segment 10 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: of In the loopwood Landry Locker. I jumped in for 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: my ball Hit with Ron the Show, Hugli and Cecil Shorts, 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: and now All Access from six to eight tonight. So 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: my four home run day, I mean a rare thing 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: in baseball, Right, guy hits four home runs, it's rare. 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I just hit all four shows on Sports Radio six ten. Yeah, 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: let's hear it from me. No, I'm just kidding, but 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: it has been a blast. I appreciate you guys for 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: being here this evening, and of course, Texas All Access 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna focus on the Texas and focus on NFL, 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: and we have got a number, a number of things 21 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: to hit we're gonna hear from GM Nick Cassario here 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: in just a second, just after I tell you what 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: else is on the show. We got Kevin Kogler, who 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: is one of the best round that's our men behind 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: the Mike's series. This week is Kevin Coogler who calls 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: all of our preseason games, does NFL games weekly for Fox, 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: does college games on Saturdays. He's one of the best 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: in the business, if not the best. Absolutely love Kevin. 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: He will be here with Mark Vanomir. Then we gotta 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: where are they now? Wednesday with Owen Daniels. Drew Dorty 31 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: catches up with his pal and that's gonna be a 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: good one Juicy in the second segment. And then we 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: got a little bit of in the Lab in the 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: second hour as well as Drew and I chop it 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: up about what happened last Sunday against the Chargers, and 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: then looking ahead a little bit to the forty nine 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: ers as well. So we got a lot to do 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: with the show this evening, But as I mentioned, we 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: will kick it off with the general manager of your 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: Houston Texans, Nick Cassario. Here we go, Nick, Happy Holiday, 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: is great to have you with us. What's your reaction 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: to the game on Sunday the victory of the Chargers. 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Morna Fella's good to be here. Uh yeah, really a 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: collective effort, I know David mentioned after the game, you know, 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: top to bottom, you know, there's a lot of people 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: within the organization. I think the one thing that was 47 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: very beneficial and helpful was a communication through out just 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: the timing of when players were going to be available, 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of planning that went into it, 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: so we had a lot a lot of dialogue as 51 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: a staff, you know, during the course of the week 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: in terms of who may or may not be available, 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: what the contingency plans would be, and then the implementation 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: of that, you know, took place on Sunday, and you know, 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: the players went out there and executed. So really accredit 56 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: to the players and the coaches for being ready to 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: go and taking vantage the opportunity and you know, playing 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: a good, clean game against a good football team, you 59 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: know who they were dealing with some things as well, 60 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: but you know, fortunately we were able to handle the 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: elements a little bit better than they did, you know, 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: so credit to credit to everybody involved. Nick, You've been 63 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: part of Super Bowl teams and you've had different contingencies 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: at different times through different games. But it felt like 65 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: with the transaction list that came out Saturday, I remember 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: seeing it going, oh my gosh, how are they going 67 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: to get this done? With so many moving parts? And 68 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: yet you went out there and played probably the cleanest 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: game you played all year. I don't even know how 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: to ask the question, but how did you do it? 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean I know communication is part 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: of it, as you said, and there are other things 73 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: that but how did you get it done with so 74 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: many changes happening so close to kickoff time? Yeah? Really? 75 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: You kind of chart out the course of the week, 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: so we had to walk through Wednesday, and so Wednesday, Thursday, 77 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Friday we essentially practiced with the players that we felt 78 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna probably more than likely play in the game, 79 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: and we're able to gain somebody back at the end 80 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: of the week. That was one thing. So one of 81 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: the things that we did on Saturday was we promoted 82 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: some players from the reserve list, knowing that they probably 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: weren't going to play, but if something were to pop 84 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: up Sunday morning, then we would just be able to 85 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: pull from the inactive group. So you know, we kind 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: of prepared for every different scenario. So the players that 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: played in the game, they all practiced during the course 88 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: of the week, so I think from a timing, from 89 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: an execution, from understanding the opponent, like they were prepared 90 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: to do that. So and then there were just some 91 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: minor things on the fringes here at the end of 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: the week that we were forced to do or that 93 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: we did, and we just what we tried to do 94 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: is create as much roster flexibility for us. You know, 95 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: the Chargers had no inactive players. We ended up with 96 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: five inactive players, you know, which a few of those 97 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: weren't going to play anyways because if they were injured 98 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: or something. But any event that's something were to happen 99 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, like if we had to grab a player 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: from the inactive list, then we could just make him active. 101 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: So again, it was a lot of dialogue and discussion 102 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week through a lot of 103 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: different people. I'd say Jeff Kaplan probably was this integral 104 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: part of what we did last week from just the 105 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: communication and or the league standpoint when the players were 106 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: cleared and from that standpoint. So really a lot of 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: people deserve a lot of credit for what happened on Sunday, 108 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: But ultimately it comes down to the player's ability to execute, 109 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: and a coach is putting the players in the position 110 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: to go out there and perform. Well, yeah, an organizational 111 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: victory Nick on opening Day, in that victory, from to 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: Sunday's victory, you had ten different starters on defense. Obviously, 113 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: the offense completely reshaped, different starting quarterback and the offensive 114 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: line different. What does that say about the organization top 115 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: to bottom that you're able to transition that way. Well, 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: we've had a lot of change and a lot of 117 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: moving parts that all throughout the course of the year. 118 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: So I think the main thing is our ability to 119 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: stay focused on the task in hand each week is 120 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: the most important thing. And you know, sometimes we haven't 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: always received the results that we wanted in terms of 122 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: wins and losses, but the players have worked hard, they've 123 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: stayed focused, the attitude has been good. We've seen some 124 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: players improve, We've seen some players take advantage of that opportunity. 125 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: So really, what we're trying to do as best we 126 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: can is top to bottom is develop as comprehensive a 127 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: program as possible where everybody's involved, where everybody has an 128 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: important part. And you know, David's talked about this from 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: the beginning. It's all about the team. It's not about 130 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: one player, it's not about you know, one individual. It's 131 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: about a collective group effort. And what you're trying to 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: do is build a team that I can sustain the 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: ups and downs over the course of time. So you know, 134 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: we've had our moments, you know, since I think the 135 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: Miami game. You know, we're three and three over the 136 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: last six games or whatever it is, so you know, 137 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: we've made some incremental progress. So you know, hopefully we 138 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: can finish strong here over the next couple of weeks 139 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: against two quality opponents and then starts prepare for whatever's 140 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: ahead in the offseason. Nick, we talked about rookies all 141 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: year long, and I know Mark and I talked about 142 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: the success that some of those rookies had. In fact, 143 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: most of the rookies, if not all of them had 144 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday, But if you wouldn't mind enlightening us, because 145 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I know we mentioned the name Michael to one four 146 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of fans going, wait a second, 147 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: who's that and he played in an NFL game for 148 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: the first time. He's a rookie. He played Rutgers in Michigan. 149 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pretty interesting guy. And then you 150 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: watch them in the field and you're like, whoa man, 151 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: this guy can move. What you just see Hi, Michael 152 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: dwumfour in the game on Sunday? And what did you 153 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: see before that that made you want to go and 154 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: get him to be a Texan. Yeah, it's it's a 155 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: good question. So as you mentioned, you know, had a 156 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: background at Michigan, So I think Pep and Ben were there, 157 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, at Michigan with him, and then he played 158 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the last season at Rutgers for Coachiano. So I mean, 159 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: we have a lot of respect for Coachiano, the program 160 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: that he runs and a type of types of people 161 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: and the types of players that he's trying to build 162 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: a program with. So I distinctly remember talking to coach 163 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: in the spring and he thought that he certainly is 164 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: a player that he felt would be competitive, you know, 165 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: in a camp situation or NFL rosters. So I think 166 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: we were depth wise on the defensive line um a 167 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: little bit low. So we brought Mike in. We I 168 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: can't remember if we worked him out or not. We 169 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: may I can't remember if we worked him out or not. 170 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: But it's a player that we had kind of earmarked 171 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and then he came in and you know, he has 172 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: some explosiveness, he has some short space quickness. I'd say 173 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: he's fairly strong for his size. So um, he went 174 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: in there and was able to give us some positive 175 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: plays along with a number of other players. So it's 176 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: really you never know. When we've talked about this on 177 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: the show regularly, you really never know when your opportunity 178 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: or number is going to be called. So you have 179 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're prepared for it. And to 180 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: his credit and to a lot of players credit, they 181 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: were ready for that challenge on Sunday, Nick, you're able 182 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: to run the ball. Well, we'll get to Davis Mills 183 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: in a second, but that aspect of the game with 184 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: this offensive line, you have col Toner out there, you 185 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: have Jimmy Morrissey out there, who was starting, took a 186 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: seat again with the return of brit but then gets 187 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: back in there. It's almost like a Mills or a 188 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: Tyrode to Mills, back to Mills situation. Tell me about 189 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: the offensive line of the job they did, punching holes 190 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: in the defense and Rex's day. Yeah, anytime you're run 191 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: the football, it starts with the offensive line. So I 192 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: mean all those players. Morrissey has played a lot of 193 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: football for us, was kind of forced to play a 194 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: little bit when you didn't have Britt. And then you know, 195 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: Cole's had a lot of experience in this league, playing center, 196 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: playing guard. He's with coach camping, you know, in LA 197 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: and then Jerons played a bunch of football for US 198 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: over the course of the year. So even though it 199 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: might have been kind of a new group, if you will, 200 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: those players have all played a lot of football. Max 201 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: played a lot of football, Charlie's played a lot of football, 202 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: and then we were able to execute and think the 203 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: backs did a good job of kind of helping the 204 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, the run game. A lot of his contingent 205 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: upon the line and the backs working together. So the 206 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: backs setting the blocks up, you know, the line, understanding 207 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: the angles and where the play is going to hit. 208 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: Even the first play that we ran, you know, I 209 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: think Rex had an inclination based on the front structure 210 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: that the ball was going to go back to the 211 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: back side, but he didn't go back there too soon, 212 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: and he was able to press the line of scrimmage 213 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: and allow the offensive line to execute the double team, 214 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: and then he was able to take it out the 215 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: back door. So there's a lot of components that go 216 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: into the running game, and the backs, their course, their 217 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: relationship to the offensive lineman, the offensive lineman taking the 218 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: proper angle coming off on the double team, so we 219 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: were able to generate some movement on the interior part 220 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: of the line. So anytime you run the football, it 221 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: starts with the offensive line, and the tight ends are 222 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: a part of that as well. Nick, we reached that 223 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: part of the show, and we are contractually obligated to 224 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: ask about Davis Mills and his progress. So let's ask 225 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: about Davis Mills and his progress. A nice day, one 226 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty point six rating. I know you guys 227 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: probably don't give a rip about the numbers, but zero. Yeah, 228 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: I knew you would say that, but I know our 229 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: fans kind of sure. You know, they see some of 230 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: that stuff. But just did the numbers match up with 231 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: what you saw from Davis on the field? Qualitative quantitative? 232 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: They match up from what you saw from him Sunday, Yeah, sure, No, 233 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Davis made good decisions. He took care of the football. 234 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I think even going back to him when he first 235 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: arrived here, you know, he always felt that he was 236 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: a fairly accurate thrower. So he's made a lot of progress. 237 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think back to training camp, you 238 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: know we had the day where you know, he threw 239 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: five or six interceptions right, and then one day and 240 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: you know it's like, holy cow, you know what's gonna happen? 241 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: How is he gonna bounce back? But I think he's 242 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: got a great and set and he just keeps pressing 243 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: forward and you're gonna go through some ups and downs. 244 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: I mean every i'd say rookie quarterback has had a 245 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: deal with that throughout the course of the season. When 246 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: you look around the league, I mean Max's going through 247 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: a Trevor's going through it. His act gone through it. 248 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: I mean Trey went through and he had to play 249 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: against Arizona. So m relative to Davis, you know, made 250 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: good decisions. Um. I think there's a couple of plays 251 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: on third down there there where he was patient in 252 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the pocket and he kind of let the play develop 253 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: a little bit and kind of worked his progression left 254 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: to right, think that one of those is the first 255 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: or second third down there. You know, when he hit Nico, 256 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: he kind of started left and came back to the right, 257 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: So you know, it's a credit to his maturation. It's 258 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: a credit to the work that Pep and Teamy TK 259 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: have done with him and be able to go out 260 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: there and execute. And then you know, probably one of 261 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: the better situations offensively was our abillity to execute there 262 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the half. You know, the backed 263 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: up situation. So get the first down, hit the shot. 264 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: You know, put ourselves in a position we're going to 265 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: actually score before the half, understanding that we were going 266 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: to get the ball to start the second half, so 267 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: I try to two for one at the air a 268 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: little bit. So it hit the big play to Philip 269 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: who made a great grab, and then you know, made 270 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: a good throw to Chris down a sideline there against 271 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: the coverage. So you know, it's good team offense. And 272 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, again if you get good quarterback play and 273 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: you make good decisions. I mean, the quarterbacks is going 274 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: to handle the ball ninety nine send at the time, 275 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: so you know everything starts with him. But you know, 276 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: relative to progress that he's made you know he's certainly 277 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: he's moving in the right direction. Nick, Johnny and I 278 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: deal with a lot of the fans outside media, you know, 279 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: outside the building, stuff you don't hear. And some people 280 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: have said, hey, you want the best possible draft choices 281 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: in the upcoming draft. What does winning do for you? 282 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm all about winning. I want to win games. I 283 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: want to see it happen. I know you guys are 284 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: fully focused on that. I know when the draft comes around, 285 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: you probably want to draft every player in the first round, 286 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: have all thirty two picks, but that's not possible. Tell 287 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: us what winning does for the team right now this 288 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: time of year. Yeah, Look, the goal ultimately when you 289 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: go out there on Sundays to try to win. You 290 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: try to put yourself in the best position to give 291 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: yourself an opportunity, and you put a lot of time, 292 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot of work, a lot of affort. The players. 293 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: Players have a lot of pride in what they do. 294 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: They want to go out there, they want to make 295 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: a good account of themselves, and you want to try 296 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: to win. You want to try to be the best 297 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: version of yourself and put your best foot forward for 298 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: the team. And you know, the organization in the city 299 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: and you go off through and win. So I think, 300 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: to your point, Mark, people get too caught up in 301 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: I would say draft positioning and draft stock. The reality 302 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: is it's not going to be about where we draft, 303 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: what pick we have. It's going to be about who 304 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: we get in the building, how we get him here, 305 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: and then what they do ultimately when they're here. So 306 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: when you look at some of the better players in 307 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: the league, you know, the best running back arguably in 308 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: the league was the fortieth overall pick in the draft. 309 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: So and you know, I don't think anybody's worried about 310 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: where he got drafted. So, you know, I think they're like, 311 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: the draft's an important part of the team building process. 312 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: It's one part of it, but it's not necessarily about 313 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: where you pick. And you know, honestly, wherever we pick, 314 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: we pick. If we pick three, we pick three, If 315 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: we pick lower, we pick lower, we pick out. It 316 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. It's about finding the right players for 317 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: the organization that we can build a good program and 318 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: a good team with. You know, they're good people to 319 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: understand what we're trying to do. Just collectively, Nick, my 320 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: favorite play the entire game was Tremont Smith's seven yard 321 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: tossed suite, and it was because a guy was playing 322 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: both ways. I think it might be, and Mark the 323 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: historian could tell us as I think it was the 324 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: first time that I know, it's the first time I've 325 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: ever seen a Texan play both sides of the ball 326 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: during a game. Yes, it was one play, I get it. 327 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: But how often are you thinking about players in different 328 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: roles like, Okay, this guy was you know way back 329 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: when you know he played wide receiver. If we get 330 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: low on wide receivers, maybe this guy steps over there. 331 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about that with Troy Brown 332 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: over the years, Julian Edelman, But how often are you 333 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: thinking about that, especially with things like COVID hitting about 334 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: hey man, where can we use a guy's talent maybe 335 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: somewhere that we haven't thought of before. No, it's actually 336 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: it's it's in the back of your mind. So when 337 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: you actually get to the game day roster, you have 338 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: forty eight players are forty seven forty eight hover men 339 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: you have, so how do you best deploy the assets 340 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: as you have? So if you can give a player, 341 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: put a player in a position, or do something maybe 342 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: that he doesn't traditionally do that can help the football team. 343 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we can talk about San Francisco here in 344 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: a little bit, but when you look at what Debo 345 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: has done, I mean Debo has got seven rushing touchdowns, 346 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: which is more than you know modern day receiver in 347 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: NFL history. So his versatility, what he brings to their offense, 348 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: it brings a different dynamic. It forces you on the 349 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: other side of the ball defensively, like you have to 350 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: prepare for that. So if a player is able to 351 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: do multiple things, again, you really want to make sure 352 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: a they can handle it. You can't just say, well, 353 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna ask this guy to do this. Well, if 354 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: he's not comfortable, he can't handle it, then you shouldn't 355 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: put that player position. But on a smaller scale, if 356 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: you can give a player something different than he normally does, 357 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean I don't look, I don't know how many 358 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: offensive lineman caught touchdown passes the other day, but it 359 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: was a few of them, right Lane Johnson, Right, there 360 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: was two whatever it was, John So it's really about 361 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: you look at your assets, you look at the team, 362 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: how do we best utilize those people, and if somebody 363 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: can do something traditionally that you are, excuse me, do 364 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: something they don't traditionally do. I mean, like we don't 365 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: have to talk about Mike, but you go back to 366 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: raybel and Vayable caught ten touchdown passes, you know, over 367 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: his course of his career and a guy played outside 368 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: linebacker an inside linebacker, but it helped the team and 369 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: he was able to handle it from a mentally, a 370 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: mental and physical standpoint. So Harbor, you can play your assets, however, 371 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you can utilize your players, like that's your responsibilities of 372 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: staff to try to do that. What about San Francisco? 373 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Nick I almost said San Diego, the La Chargers had 374 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: ten days to get ready for you. The forty nine 375 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: ers have ten days to get ready for you. What 376 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: are we looking at in this franchise? Yeah, it's it's 377 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: it's a really good football team. Historically, you go back 378 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: and look at kind of how they developed their program, 379 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: going back to the Walsh days. I mean when Bill 380 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: took over the program, I mean they were kind of 381 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: a rudderless ship. So I mean I think they want 382 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: don't know, two or three games the first few years, 383 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: and a third year they were able to have some 384 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: progress and then they established, you know, arguably one of 385 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: the better dynasties and the football organizations the history of 386 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: our sports. So specific to this team, it starts with 387 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: Kyle and John. They have a vision. Kyle's as good 388 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: of a coach and good of a play caller as 389 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: there is in league. Let's think the one thing that 390 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: stands out about them as how physical they play. I mean, 391 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: there're as tough and physical a team that will probably 392 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: face his season on both sides of the ball, good 393 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: offensive line, outstanding tight end. You're not going to find 394 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: a more well rounded player than Kittle. I think the 395 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: thing that stands out about him is just the way 396 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: he competes his competitive It just in competitiveness down in 397 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: and down out. And he as a blocker, he excels. 398 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: So they run to football well, they have a Yak 399 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Boys and Iyuk and Debo and Kittle, so they're really 400 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: good with the ball in their hands. I think they 401 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: have as many yards after the catch or contact as 402 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: any team in the league, So tackling is going to 403 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: be at a premium. And then defensively, you know, Boss 404 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league period, regardless 405 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: of position, and they're using them kind of on both sides, 406 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: so really strong front, good in the middle of the defense. 407 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Fred Warner is as good of a linebacker is in 408 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: the league, and I think he's played I don't know, 409 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the snaps since his rookie season 410 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: and he's had over one hundred tackles a year. So 411 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: a big, strong, physical player. Two good safeties, and they 412 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: have some experience on the perimeter. The one thing that 413 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: they do better than any team in the league. I 414 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: think they've forced like twenty fumbles. Norman's got seven, Bosa 415 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: has got four or five. So ball security and take 416 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: care the football is going to be at a premium. 417 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: And they have a really good core group of players 418 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: in the kicking game. Flannagan Flowers who Fonga the rookie 419 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: is giving them some good plays. Cannon if he plays, 420 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: is as fast as coverage players as there is. So 421 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: they present a lot of challenges. They play physical, they 422 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: want to run a football, They don't give up a 423 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: lot of big plays on defense, and they have a 424 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: lot of i'd say highly skilled players. You know. The 425 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: one question mark, probably towards the end of the week 426 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: here we'll have to get some clarity as the whole 427 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. But we'll have to prepare for both Jimmy 428 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: and Trey and then be able to go out there 429 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: and execute regardless who's on the field on Sunday. Nick, 430 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: obviously you have a history with Jimmy Treys a rookie, 431 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: played one year at North Dakota State. So there's probably 432 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: as limited information is as there could be one guy. 433 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, really when all one guy we haven't seen. 434 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: But I think for one game against the Arizona Cardinals 435 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: preparing for those two, how do things change when Jimmy's 436 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: in the game versus when trays in the game. Yeah, 437 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: they'll be saying some things that are similar relative to 438 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: how they structure a running game, and then the boots 439 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: and run actions off that whether or not they have 440 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: more of a running element with Trey a quarterback. To 441 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: your point, John, I mean Trey played one year, one 442 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: year plus a game. He played a bunch of the preseason, 443 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: so you go back to the preseason kind of see 444 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: what transpired. I think he's had a number of good 445 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: players and made a number of good throws into preseason. 446 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: I think he had a few long completions for a 447 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: long touchdown pass in the preseason. Then he played against Arizona, 448 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, on a road and that was a competitive game. 449 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: So they have different skill sets. I'm not sure Kyle 450 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: will change that much materially. Their core is their core, 451 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: but they may have if Trey plays, maybe a few 452 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: things specific to him. And then Jimmy, if he plays, 453 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: can handle the whole offense like he's done since he's 454 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: been there. Nick, New Year's Eve is coming up, big party, party, hats, champagne, 455 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: midnight and beyond in the Cassario household. No, I can't 456 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: remember the last time I've stayed up for New Year's 457 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: Eve since my wife and I have been married. So 458 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: we're old school. So I'd probably go home, have some dinner, 459 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: do a little bit of work, and fall asleep and 460 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: then wake up in the morning to a bunch of 461 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 1: texts wishing everybody happy New Year. But you know, it's exciting, 462 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: it's a new year. Turn to page. But yeah, we're 463 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna I'm pretty low key, low profile. That's unfortunately my personality. Okay, 464 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: somebody you know has asked this question, so I'll ask 465 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: you New Year's resolutions for twenty twenty two. I try 466 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: to keep it simple, you know, just try to, you know. 467 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're very I'm very blessed and fortunate 468 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: to have i'd say a lot of important people. My 469 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: wife's in my life, starting my wife, my three girls, 470 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: and our dogs. So you know, just try to be 471 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: the best version of myself each day and you know, 472 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: turn the page a new year. I mean, it's all 473 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: about opportunity, and it's all about what we do with 474 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: thus opportunities when they're presenting it. So you know, I 475 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: try to live pretty simple, clean life. So you know, 476 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: just blessed to be here and just realize how fortunate 477 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: we all are to have each day and never take 478 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: anything for granted. Nick, thank you so much for the time. 479 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: Best of luck this week. Thanks guys, take care. I 480 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: did get a little bit better answer on New Year's 481 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: resolutions than Nick's former boss, Bill Belichick came after the loss. 482 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: If you haven't heard that audio, man, that is some 483 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: unbelievable stuff. But Nick, gracious has been a good twenty 484 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: minutes with us, so we really appreciate his time. He 485 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: does that weekly. We have such a blast talking to 486 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: him because there's so many different things that we can hit, 487 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: So really appreciate Nick for jumping on now there is 488 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: news about this team and a lot going on. When 489 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: I was on with Seth Pain this morning at seven 490 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: thirty this morning, it was announced at Tavier Thomas named 491 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: the AFC Defensive Player the Week. Yeah, man, so hyper 492 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: Tavia has been so good this year, so very good. 493 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: I've mentioned a few times I've felt like Comma Gruge 494 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: Hills the defense MVP, for what he's been able to 495 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: do for this team. You can throw justin reading that mix. 496 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: He's been awesome this year. Eric Murray when he's been 497 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: healthy on the field, Eric Murray has had some really 498 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: good play over the last probably I would say probably 499 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: since the Bay and even before that, but definitely since 500 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: the Bay It' Tavier Thomas has been outstanding. He is 501 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: named AFC Defensive Player the Week. It is the first 502 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: time that a Texan has one Defensive Player of the 503 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: Week since Whitney Merciless did it in Week two against 504 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: the Jaguars in twenty nineteen. So that follows up Tremont 505 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: Smith winning Special Teams Player of the Week in the 506 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: AFC last week. Get the AFC Defensive Player of the 507 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: Week this week. And that's not all. We also found 508 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: out today that the FedEx Air and Ground Players of 509 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: the Week. The air players Joe Burrow, which I know 510 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: you don't care about unless you have Joe Burrow and Fantasy, 511 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: but he was outstanding, so that makes sense. The FedEx 512 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: Ground Player of the Week is Rex Burkhead. By winning 513 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: the FedEx Ground NFL Player the Week award, FedEx will 514 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: work with the third Good Marshall College Fund, the largest 515 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: organization exclusively representing the Black college community, to make a 516 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars donation in Rex's name to historically colleges 517 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: and University's HBCUs. Over the course the entire season select 518 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: HBCUs will we see grants totally more than a one 519 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to support needs based scholarships through the 520 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty three school year. Rex was outstanding on Sunday. 521 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 1: He will tell you and we'll have him on Friday 522 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: with dpcity. He will tell you. Man's offensive line. I 523 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: know him, I know selfless players. Rex is one of those. 524 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Buck Congratulations to Rex as a representative of the entire 525 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: running game for winning the FedEx Ground Player of the 526 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: Week in Week sixteen. And there's more that number sixteen 527 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: on upwards of sixteen players were brought back off the 528 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen list today. Those include Justin Britt, Brandon Cooks, 529 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: Kindamy Fairband, John Grenard Comu, Grugier, Hill Neville Hewitt, Jordan Jenkins, 530 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: Jalil Johnson, Roy Lopez, Eric Murray, Derek Rivers, Lane Taylor, 531 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: and Eric Wilson. Now seth us for a lot of 532 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: time talking about the vaccination thing today, the new protocols. 533 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Either way, it works out the Texans getting some players 534 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: back for this week. And there's more. It does appear 535 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: that Dannie Amondola may be ready to go against the 536 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, which definitely will help the passing game 537 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: as they get ready to face one of the more 538 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: physical defenses in the league. Oh that's a mouthful. And 539 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: that's a segment one on one with Nick Cassario, FedEx 540 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Ground Player of the Week, AFC Defensive Player of the 541 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Week and players coming back off of COVID. Man It's 542 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: a holiday miracle. How about that? All right, let's go 543 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: men behind the mics next with Mark Vandemir and our 544 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: goodpal Kevin Coogler. Right here in Texans All Access Welcome 545 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: back this Wednesday at the Texans All access side your 546 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: host John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter, and I've had 547 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: the oppera tune in to fortune, opportunity to work alongside 548 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: the great voice in our town, Mark Vandermere. It's been 549 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: a pleasure and I give him a task every single 550 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: weeks called men behind the Mics. Well, this week Kevin Kogler, 551 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: Texans preseason voice, calls games for Fox. He's an opportunity 552 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: to call some games with the forty nine ers this year, 553 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: they had a chance to catch up the Texans play 554 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: by play voice alongside the Texans preseason TV play by 555 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: play voice, Mark and Kevin. Here we go. Welcome and 556 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: it's great to catch up with you. Have you been 557 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: my friend, I've been great, Market, It's great to catch 558 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: up with you as well. Congrats to the Texans getting 559 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: some winning done here at the end of the season. Yeah. 560 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: What do you make of that? Because I know that 561 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: obviously you were with us Green Bay for the three 562 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: preseason games. It started in Green Bay, and you know 563 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: Davis Mills playing a lot lately for the Texans and 564 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: playing better. What's your take on it. I'm happy for 565 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: Davis because I really liked him in the preseason but 566 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: at that point, you know, everything was just so fast. 567 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: You're just getting into the NFL and you're looking around 568 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: and seeing all these guys flying all over the place. 569 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,479 Speaker 1: It's clear that it's slowed down a little bit for him, 570 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: which I'm excited for him, and I'm excited for the 571 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: franchise because, look, you've got to figure out what's going 572 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: on at quarterback, and Davis's play of late seems to 573 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: have been able to say, all right, maybe there's something 574 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: here we can work with in the years going forward. 575 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: And at least it means there's no urgency to go 576 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: out in the early stages of a draft and find 577 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: another quarterback. I think he's played well enough to earn 578 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get that job again next year, and 579 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: that's really encouraging for the Texans. But you know, I 580 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: watched the Texans now and there are a lot of 581 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: different faces on this roster from when I saw him 582 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: in the preseason. That's a different team right now, injuries 583 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: and trades and everything else. For sure, Well, speaking of 584 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces. Doing preseason football probably helps 585 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: you with what you're doing right now, which is COVID 586 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: football and working games for Fox. Because we see so 587 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: many games where so many new players are available on 588 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: a Sunday, and I don't know about you, but you know, 589 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: my roster on Sunday looks like a Jackson Pollock painting, 590 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, rebling in new names and things like that. 591 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: How's that been going for you? Well, my wife is 592 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: a big puzzle person. She loves to do puzzles. I 593 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing a puzzle every week putting my 594 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: spotting boards together, because I'm taking one piece and putting 595 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: another piece in here and there and everywhere else. It's 596 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: been I tell people I put my boards together during 597 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: the week, as all of us do who do play 598 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: by play, But this year, when I get to the 599 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: city on Saturday night, I basically spend my Saturday evening 600 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: redoing my boards after everybody's gone through all these roster changes. 601 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: And that's not gonna be any different the remainder of 602 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: this season. This is just the world that we're living 603 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: in right now with the cases sky high. Hopefully the 604 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: NFL protocol changes will help that a little bit for 605 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: the teams involved, but it's just a it's a piecemeal 606 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: situation right now for all these teams and for those 607 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: of us broadcasts. In the games, we learned quickly about 608 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: some guys who we didn't expect to see on the field. 609 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Coogler with us on Texan's Radio. So, Kevin, I 610 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: know you did the Tampa Bay Carolina game last week, 611 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: So tell me what you saw out of Tom Brady 612 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: and the Buck in the years. They're not completely healthy, 613 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: but they clinched. What do you think of their chances 614 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: down the stretch and into the postseason. Well, anytime you 615 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: have Tom Brady, I feel pretty good about your chances, 616 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: and until he's not out there, I will still think 617 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is one of the favorites in the NFC. 618 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: But you're right, they're a really banged up team. No. 619 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Four net, No Mike Evans, Chris Godden year. It's a 620 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: team that is going through a lot of different changes 621 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: right now and they're trying to figure out their way forward. 622 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: They lost Lavante, David Shack Barrett got knocked out in 623 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: that game. He's out for the remainder of the regular season. 624 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: So those are a lot of big names on both 625 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: sides of the ball for Tampa Bay. But you still 626 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: have Tom Brady and as long as you can cobble 627 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: something together over the next couple of weeks. Get those 628 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: guys healthy. They should get a good chunk of them 629 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: back for the postseason. Tampa's gonna be a team that's 630 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: gonna give you a lot of problems because Brady is 631 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: playing at an extremely high level. He's got the chance 632 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: to lead the league mark in both passing yards and 633 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: touchdowns only be the second time in his career. He 634 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: did it. The first time was two thousand and seven. 635 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: We're talking almost fifteen years later and a man who's 636 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: forty four years old has the chance to do it again. 637 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: He's a remarkable, remarkable player. Well have you seen the Packers? 638 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: Have you done any Packers games this year? I have 639 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: not had them other than the preseason. Oh and I 640 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: take that back. I did have them on radio one 641 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: time earlier, earlier in the season, so I have had 642 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: them in person once. So who do you think is 643 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC? Really? I know Brady 644 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: can bring that X factor like no one else can 645 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: once they get there. But who do you like here 646 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: coming into the postseason? Yeah? I really do lean Green 647 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Bay only because Aaron Rodgers is also playing obviously at 648 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: a terrific level, and this felt like at the beginning 649 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: of the year a team that was going all in 650 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: for one last run. I know there were a lot 651 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: of comparisons made because the Bulls documentary was somewhat recent 652 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: in our minds, but it is kind of like that, 653 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: where they're going for one last ride, one last dance 654 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: during this season and if you can secure home field advantage, 655 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: and I know they haven't yet, but they're certainly in 656 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: the Catbirds seat to that. If you can secure home 657 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: field advantage and have to go through lambeau Field to 658 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: make your way to the postseason, it's different than going 659 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: through lambeau Field last year because this year you'll have fans. 660 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: This year, the place will be packed. This year is 661 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: different than last year. And I know that people will say, well, 662 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: they didn't get there last we Well, that's true. This 663 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: is a different year. This is a different team. I 664 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: still lean Green Bay when I look at the overall 665 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: picture in the NFC, Tampa Bay is right there in 666 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: the mix. But and so is Dallas, by the way, 667 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: but this Green Bay team to me is the favorite still. Kevin, 668 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: you just did that, Caroline a Tampa Bay game and 669 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: it's year two for Matt Rule. We've seen the Jacksonville 670 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars a couple of times, once with urban Meyer, once without. 671 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking about college coaches trying to make 672 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: that jump and with rule. Look it's year two, maybe 673 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: it's relatively early here. Urban Meyer didn't work out for 674 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons. As a guy who sees so 675 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: much college football, why is it so tough to make 676 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: the transition into the NFL. I think one thing is 677 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: coaches have a very difficult time adjusting to the different 678 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: power structure of the NFL versus college football. When you're 679 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: a college head coach, you have ultimate control. You can 680 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: control a guy's playing time, you can bench him. Not 681 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: a lot of questions come up, and if they do, 682 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: you can easily brush them aside. Look at the urban 683 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: Meyer situation. James Robinson, their running back before he got injured, 684 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: fumbles of football. They take him out of the game, 685 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't come back in. They ask after the game, 686 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: what happened to James Robinson, Well, he kind of defers 687 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: to his position. Coaches, Well, that's not going to fly 688 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: with NFL media, it's not going to fly with NFL fans. 689 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you can pull that off in college, but there's 690 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: just and you certainly can't pull it off with NFL players. 691 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. It's very difficult for college coaches. 692 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: You have to be a special kind of college coach. 693 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: You look at a Pete Carroll who was an NFL coach, 694 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: then went to college, had great success, then came back 695 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: and is obviously until this year, had tremendous success with Seattle. 696 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: Those guys who are the rare or breed. It's very 697 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: difficult for college coaches who have that, in my opinion, 698 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: the ultimate control at the college level, to come to 699 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: the NFL and be able to exert that over a 700 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: thirty three year old, nine year pro. They just don't 701 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: listen the same way or have the same respect as 702 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: they do in college when you're eighteen, nineteen years old 703 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: and this guy controls how much playing time you can get. 704 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: You have Atlanta Buffalo this week. So the Bills obviously 705 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: super strong, feeling good about themselves after beating the Patriots 706 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: in Foxborough. What about the Falcons versus Buffalo? What do 707 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: you make of this one? And what do you think 708 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: of Buffalo as we get to the playoffs. I think 709 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo is finding their rhythm at exactly the right time, 710 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: and they've got a quarterback who can hurt in so 711 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: many different ways in Josh Allen. Look, this is a 712 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: talented team. You know Cole Beasley will be back from 713 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: the COVID list. So you have Emmanuel Sanders, Stefon Diggs, 714 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, a trio of wide receivers that are very, 715 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: very difficult. You have a quarterback who can hurt you. 716 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: You have to defend eleven on eleven because his legs 717 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: are as dangerous as his arm in a lot of ways. 718 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: And you have a very talented tight end and Dawson Knox, 719 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: who is one of the more underrated tight ends in 720 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: a very good tight end league. This is an offensive 721 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: team that is outstanding, but as good as they are offensively, 722 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: they are underrated nationally defensively. And that's where you're going 723 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: to win this thing. You've got. They're the number one 724 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: total defense team in the league. I think you could 725 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: go into a lot of bars across America and win 726 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot of bets based on who's the number one 727 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: defensive team in the league. Well, right now it's the 728 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. They're two safeties are doing a tremendous job 729 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: in the secondary with Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde, each 730 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: of them at five picks. This is an outstanding defense 731 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: with some names that maybe people don't think of across 732 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: the board. I just name two of them, Jordan Poyer 733 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: and Micah Hyde that are among the elite players in 734 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: the National Football League. But as a team, it's the 735 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: best defense right now. And so you combine a really 736 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: good offense with a good defense and confidence peaking at 737 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: the right time, This Bills team is going to challenge 738 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: in the AFC. Kevin Coogler joining us on Texans Radio. 739 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: Kevin as a broadcaster, as a fan of football, your 740 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: reaction to the passing of John Madden, what he meant 741 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,479 Speaker 1: to you, what signifies all around the league and beyond well. 742 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: I first off, my thoughts went to my former partner 743 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: at the college level, Matt Millen, who was not only 744 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: a great friend of coach Madden, but it was a 745 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: fan of coach Madden, and they of course knew each 746 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: other for so many years and were so tight and 747 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: so close. That was the first person I texted when 748 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: I heard the news last night, because I knew how 749 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: much Matt would be hurting. This is this one will 750 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: really hurt him and so many other people who were 751 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: impacted by Coach Madden over the years. For me, obviously, 752 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: our career has never passed. His career had finished by 753 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: the time I got into the broadcast realm. But I 754 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: always I cannot think of John Madden without thinking my grandfather. 755 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: My grandfather was the most influential man in my life. 756 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: He was the father figure to me. And he was 757 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: not a sports guy who was a little accountant from 758 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: a depression era, so he was not a guy who 759 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: thought about sports as anything other than a leisure activity. 760 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: But he knew how much I loved it, so he 761 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: would watch football with me, and he always loved John Madden. 762 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: He thought he got a kick out of the John 763 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: Madden comments, you know, like so many of us did. 764 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: He was entertained by John Madden, which was the point. 765 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: And so I can't ever think about John Madden without 766 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: thinking about my grandfather, And so that always provides for 767 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: me a certain warm feeling anytime I think of Coach Madden. 768 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know how many hours of my life 769 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: I wasted spending time playing Madden video games over the years, 770 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: but it's in the triple digits or even more. But 771 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: It's just there's so much nostalgia tied to the name 772 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: John Madden and his works, and all of it is 773 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: those warm feelings of nostalgia. So his passing impacts me 774 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: from a standpoint of it's another piece of my life 775 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: that's now gone. I didn't know John Madden, but I 776 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: felt like so much of my path was connected to 777 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: what John Madden did. Wther it be broadcasting or even 778 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: just the playing of video games with friends, all of 779 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: that was impacted by John Madden. Yeah, that's a great point. 780 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: It blows me away that he worked for all four networks. 781 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that is fascinating to me. And at one 782 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: point he earned more than any particular player in the NFL. 783 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: That Fox deal paid him big bucks. And you know 784 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: he called the very first Texans game at Fawcett Stadium, 785 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: the old Hall of Fame Stadium, the Hall of Fame game. 786 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: Backing out, you've done games that are right for Westwood one, 787 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: I believe, yep, yep. And you know they have only 788 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: one bathroom in that press box, Kevin, And at halftime 789 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: of that game, my Madden memory, we all rushed out 790 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: of the bathroom and they said, guys, we got to 791 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: hold the bathroom for John Madden, and I thought, okay, 792 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: I'll wait exactly. There aren't too many people you'd say 793 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: that for. But yes, okay, mister Madden, please go ahead, 794 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: you go first. Yeah, it's really cool stuff, Kevin. Who 795 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: are some of your influences in broadcasting? You get started 796 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: in Omaha, and we've talked about your rise before, But 797 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: who are some of the voices, whether it be on TV, radio, 798 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: maybe people you don't even know that well, But who 799 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: are some of the influences that really motivated you and 800 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: inspired you early? Well, you know what's funny is that 801 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: I grew up in the early era of satellite television, 802 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: and so one of the thing one of the first 803 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: things that we had from satellite television was they had 804 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: they were the superstations. We had a superstation package on 805 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: the Dish network at that time, the very first Dish 806 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: network that came out, and you could get the superstations 807 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: from across the country in one package. So KTLA was 808 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: on the superstation, and so I could sit and I 809 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: would watch and I'm a Cubs fan, grew up a 810 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,800 Speaker 1: Chicago Cubs fan. Loved Harry Carey, loved the entertainment aspect 811 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: that he brought. But I would turn over and watch 812 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Vin Skelly do games because Vince Kelly, to me, was 813 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,959 Speaker 1: the absolute peak of the art form of broadcasting because 814 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: he was a storyteller, and I always told people I 815 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: would watch him broadcasting game with my team because I 816 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 1: would learn about my team from an opposing team's broadcaster, 817 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: which to me was the highest of compliments. If I 818 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: can learn something about a team that I think I 819 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: know as a fan from somebody else who's broadcasting for 820 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: the other quote other team, that to me was the 821 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: absolute pinnacle compliment for any broadcaster, to be able to 822 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: say that about somebody else. That was so for me, 823 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Vince Kelly was. I wouldn't say I patterned myself after him, 824 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: because that would be an insult to mister Skelly, but 825 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: I certainly appreciate the art form of storytelling that he 826 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: always provided, whether it be on TV or radio. I 827 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: always enjoyed brad Nessler growing up. I thought his voice 828 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: was fantastic. He came from similar roots, used to do 829 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Division two sports, and climbed his way up, so I 830 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: always appreciated that as I got older, because I know 831 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: that's a difficult path to take, but that's the path 832 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: he took, coming from man Cato and going all the 833 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: way up the ranks in the broadcast world. It's just 834 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: it's obviously some voices like Vince Kelly that are prominent, 835 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: and brad Nesler very prominent now, but at the time 836 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: when I was growing up watching him call college games, 837 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: he was not at the pinnacle of sports. He was 838 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: not at the top of the broadcaster chain. But I 839 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: always thought Brad Nesler was a fantastic voice, and I 840 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: always appreciated what he did. You know, and then you 841 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: grew up in the Midwest and you see certain guys 842 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: that come through and you take little parts from things 843 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: they do. If you're watching a Dave Armstrong call a 844 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: Big eight basketball game at some point, you take something 845 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: from that, or if you're watching Ron Franklin later on 846 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: do college football or Big twelve sports, you take a 847 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: little bit of something from that. There's just a lot 848 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: of those names that when I think about all the 849 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: people that I watched and appreciated over the years, that 850 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: pop into my mind. Mike Patrick, who was here for 851 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: so many years doing the College World Series in Omaha, 852 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: always got the chance to see him in the press 853 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: box as he got older, and as I got into 854 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: the press box and got into the broadcast room, just 855 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: so many of those names and faces that I think 856 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: of over the years. I love hearing those two guys 857 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: on the air together. The Voice of the Texans, Mark 858 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: vandermer with the Voice of the Texans preseason tv Wise 859 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: and NFL on Fox, Big Temp Basketball, Kevin Cougar. All right, 860 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: we get back. We'll do a quick run around the NFL. 861 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: Any news and nuggets that we need to hit, We'll 862 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: do that next on Texans Alexis and Texans Alexis and 863 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: Texans at Welcome back to Sudnesday dation of Texans All 864 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm calling all my 865 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: Houston area teachers out there. I know you're on a 866 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: break right now, in a much desert break, but I 867 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: know you're gonna get back to things very very soon, 868 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: and I want to ask you if you want to 869 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: bring a little Texas football to your classrooms, well, then 870 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: sign up for Toros Mathrils presented by Conico Phillips. Toros 871 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: Matris is the video series designed helped third fourth graders 872 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: we don't know how to tackle math in the classroom. 873 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: Go to Houston Texas dot com slash Toros math drills 874 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: to learn more. Okay, we've got to do our Schlumberge's 875 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: stats challenge and this is probably a perfect time to 876 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: do it. And my stat is one hundred and thirty 877 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: point six one three zero point six. That was the 878 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: passer rating of Davis Mills on Sunday against the Los 879 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers twenty one of twenty six. He had two touchdowns, 880 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: did not throw an interception. It was the second time 881 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: this year that he has gone one hundred and thirty 882 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: plus with his quarterback rating. He was one forty one 883 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: against the Patriots, he was one thirty point six. In 884 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: his last three starts, Davis Mills has been ninety two 885 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: point two, ninety three point two and one thirty point 886 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 1: six on his passer rating. He has flown five touchdowns 887 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: in those three games. He has just one interception that 888 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: was thrown in the win at Jacksonville. Tyson Campbell picked 889 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: him off on the little sail route out route to 890 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Nakins that got picked off. That's it. Five touchdowns, 891 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: one interception. I know people are like nah, he said, 892 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: he you know, love what he did before you can't 893 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: look past what he did before. Yeah, he was a 894 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: rookie starter for the first time, played some great defenses 895 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: and he didn't play great, and we told you he 896 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: didn't play great. But he's playing better. And that's what 897 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: you want to see a rookie do is improve improvement. 898 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 1: That's what he's doing, and hopefully he takes another stride 899 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: against a very good San Francisco forty nine or defense 900 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: led by former Texans linebacker and current defensive coordinator Demico. 901 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: Ryan's looking forward to that matchup and seeing Davids Mills 902 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: take another step. That stat's challenge brought to you by 903 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: our friends at Schlumberge. All right, we've got a lot 904 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: to do in our second hour. We're gonna start with it. 905 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: Where are they Now? Wednesday? With Owen Daniels Y's right, 906 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: Drew dohrty own daniels next, right here in Texans All Access. 907 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: We got one hour down and one hour left to go. 908 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: Right here on a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. 909 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harrit's Football and All Sideline reporter, 910 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: So glad to be with you, and it's time for 911 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: our Wednesday Where are they Now? Drew Doherty catches up periodically. 912 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: I'd like to say weekly, but it's not every single 913 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: week because you know, Drew's got a ton of other 914 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: things he's got to do. But when he does get 915 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with a former Texan, it 916 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: is glorious. And this week it's one of the great ones, 917 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: tight end. Owen Daniels, Drew take it away. Oh man. 918 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: We always love catching up with former Texans, but we've 919 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: never caught up with the greatest Texans tight end ever. 920 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: That's right, Owen Daniels joining us. Now, how you've been, man, 921 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: you're looking good? What's new? I am doing all right, 922 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: great to see you. Great. I'm living in Houston. I 923 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: got two little boys six four years old, Henry and Benjamin, 924 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: and my wife's doing great. Angels doing well, and so 925 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: I've been. This is my sixth season out. Retirement was 926 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: interesting at first, you know, interesting water to navigate and 927 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: not it was actually ended up being a much more 928 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: difficult transition than I had anticipated to being if you 929 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: followed my journey at all, through what Henry, my son 930 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: has been through, and then what I've been through with 931 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: my mental health. But I have learned a lot and 932 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm in a good place now. People go through stuff 933 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: all the time, So you know, from my end, I'm 934 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: realizing that being out of football, it's you're gonna have 935 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: your good days, you're gonna a bad days, and got 936 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 1: to do it our best to kind of be mindful 937 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: of everybody and especially with everything's going on in the 938 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: world right now. So the great thing for me is that, 939 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: So obviously retiring from football, it's kind of I've been 940 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: doing my whole life right and then all of a sudden, 941 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: it's like a loss. I didn't realize I was going 942 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: to be like that. Necessarily, I've had the opportunity twenty 943 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: nine teams the first season I'm not three seasons in. 944 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: I had opportunity to get football back in my life. 945 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: And I'm an assistant coach on the varsity football team 946 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: at Think in Cade School like Ink School here in town. 947 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: So I've had a ton of fun. It's been super rewarding. 948 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: Exactly what exactly are you coaching them on? Like are 949 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: you the tight ends coach or more than that? Or 950 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's high school football, so we have Our 951 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,920 Speaker 1: offense is kind of has changed a little bit over 952 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: the first couple of years. My first year I was 953 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: at the tight end coach. We had tight end bodies, 954 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: we were able to do that type of stuff, and 955 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: then this past season we did more of the past 956 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: two seasons, it was more of an air raid type 957 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: of an offense. So I was coaching the inside receivers. Okay, 958 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: so that was my position group, the inside slot receivers 959 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: kind of where I worked a lot as far as 960 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: similar type of routes and things like that. So we 961 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: had some really good athletes to work with, and as 962 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: far as my role on the team, I just tried 963 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: to help out wherever I could, wherever I thought I 964 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: could help out, whether if it was an old alignment 965 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: with their with their technique, you know, receiver running a route, 966 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: going back to my quarterback days, helping quarterbacks with their 967 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: footwork and things like that. So just doing what I 968 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: can to help make the games simpler. The kids, those 969 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: kids that cank college, prep school, and they got a 970 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 1: lot going on with that academics and all those things, 971 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: and they're eager to learn, they want to improve, and 972 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 1: I just try to find a way to communicate things 973 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 1: to them in a way that's that's simple. Football is 974 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: a pretty simple game. It comes down to fundamentals. It 975 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: comes down to simplifying as much as possible. That makes 976 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: the game that much easier. So, you know, doing what 977 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: I can to kind of pass my knowledge down all 978 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: the things that I've the knowledge that I've accumulated over 979 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: the years over you know, learned from great coaches that 980 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: I've had in college and the NFL. Obviously just teaching 981 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: kids the things I wish I would have known back 982 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: in high school. So it's been there's been an awesome 983 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,760 Speaker 1: part of my life. You got any baby Owen Daniels, 984 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: baby Jewel Greeson's that you've been working with their kind 985 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: so at it. You know it is because baby o 986 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,919 Speaker 1: d in high school was it was a quarterback, true 987 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 1: true who wanted to be a big time college quarterback. So, 988 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if we have a guy 989 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: like Jeel Greeson or myself on the roster right now. 990 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I could get back to getting some kids 991 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: to the body type to where we can run the 992 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: type of offense we're gonna We had an offensive coordinator 993 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: change during the season, and so there's a potential for 994 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: having a new type of offense next year. Having a 995 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: little heaving and tight end a little bit more involved. 996 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: So I'm really pushing, you know, anytime I get a chance, 997 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: I am pushing for those Kubiak keepers and all those 998 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: run fakes and things like that to get to tight 999 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: end involved because we like to run the ball there. 1000 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: Our head of coach is great about he wants it 1001 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: to be a physical game, wants to run the football. 1002 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 1: So I got a whole bunch of ideas about stuff 1003 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: to do off of those runs. So and anytime I 1004 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: can help out, whether it's a tackle, I feel like 1005 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: my experience in the NFL when it comes to blocking 1006 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: guys is really similar to a lot of these kids 1007 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: who play old line that think now, typically they're undersized kids. 1008 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: They got a lot of heart, they're tough kids, super 1009 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,479 Speaker 1: smart kids, but they tend to be maybe a little 1010 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: bit smaller than you want to have in an oldlignment, 1011 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: which is perfect for me to explain things to them 1012 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: because we can relate, like, hey, I had a compensate 1013 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: guys that were way bigger than me too, so I 1014 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: understand and I know what it takes to be successful 1015 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: about those guys, you know, against those type of guys. 1016 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,359 Speaker 1: So I think that's when they kind of said ten 1017 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: start to tune in a little bit like, oh yeah, 1018 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: he did have to block guys are way bigger than him, 1019 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,360 Speaker 1: and I'm in that same situation. So it's been awesome 1020 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: footballs in my life. I get all the best parts 1021 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: of the game, you know, get to go over there 1022 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: for three four hours every every day and throw play 1023 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: ball if the kids play catch, and it's been awesome. 1024 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: That's cool. You know. You just brought up Gary Kubiak 1025 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: and we were lucky enough we got to spend a 1026 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: little time with him in April then go up to 1027 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 1: his ranch just northwest of town, and he said, he's 1028 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 1: enjoyed catching up with you over the last few years. 1029 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of a nice It's a nice guy. You 1030 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 1: can kind of dial Hey, if you had a question, 1031 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: you can always go to that guy. He's just down 1032 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: the road right one hundred percent. And I have so 1033 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: there you go, there you have. You know, I consider 1034 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 1: coach Kubiak could be a great friend of mine, someone 1035 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: who I can hit up anytime I need anything at all. 1036 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: We've kept in touch, like he you know, he said, 1037 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: he mentioned over the years, got a chance to play 1038 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: some golf together. I saw him most recently at Peyton's 1039 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: Hall of Famous trimn So that was great to see 1040 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: him there with some other former teammates. But he every 1041 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: time I see him, whether it's him or him and 1042 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: his wife, Hey, bring the kids up to the farm, yeah, 1043 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 1: fishing or whatever. And I've already gotten his ear. I 1044 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: already have our training camp playbook from from back in 1045 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: the Texans days, so I have that I can access 1046 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: it anytime I need to. I'm looking at it week 1047 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: to week during the season and Austin season to see 1048 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,320 Speaker 1: what I can add to the concaid offensive plans. So 1049 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: he's been awesome and it's great to It's always great 1050 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: to have something like that on your side. That's really cool. 1051 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 1: That's really cool. He's a good dude. And love hearing 1052 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: from him. Yeah, that's for sure. You know, you were 1053 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: here a couple of weeks ago for the homecoming. You 1054 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: were one of many former Texans that got to check 1055 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: things out. What was that like for you? What was 1056 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: it like seeing some guys that you you brushed up against, 1057 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: you played with during your time here. How was that. Yeah, 1058 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: it's great to be back in the buildings. Bye, what's 1059 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: going on. It's always great to run into guys who man, 1060 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 1: even if it was even it was one year together 1061 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,879 Speaker 1: or a bunch of time together over the years, deal 1062 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: to run into guys those weekends are it's it's hard 1063 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes, like I kind of understand, I think 1064 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: we had a pretty good turnout, but sometimes I can 1065 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: just understand guys hesitancy towards going back for those things. 1066 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: It's been hard sometimes to be proud of, you know, 1067 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: sometimes things that I did I'm a team back in 1068 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: the day, or my you know, football career, because sometimes 1069 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: you feel like you don't want to boast or brag 1070 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: about it. But at the same time, that was a 1071 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: big part of my life and it's hard sometimes to 1072 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: go back to those things because that part of your 1073 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: life's over sure. But then what but once, so this 1074 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: year I was I had gone a few years ago. 1075 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: I think I had taken a year or two off 1076 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: from going. I didn't I didn't go last year just 1077 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: in pandemic reasons, and then I might have missed twenty 1078 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 1: nineteen and I was kind of bouncing back from my 1079 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: mental health struggles but kind of find finding my right 1080 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: place and was kind of busy with first year of 1081 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: high school coaching. Anyway, but this year I made a 1082 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: point to go back and even and it has nothing 1083 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,720 Speaker 1: to do with the event. I think. You know, Candice 1084 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: does a fantastic job getting all the guys together, and 1085 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,799 Speaker 1: the Texas Organization has nothing to do with it because 1086 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: they do a fantastic job, but welcome guys back. And 1087 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: it's just like a personal thing where it's like, man, 1088 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: so I want to go back and and real live 1089 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 1: times like without that, I'll never be able to get 1090 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: to go back to again. It's it's one of those 1091 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: It's weird because once I, once I decided to go 1092 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: and I'm actually there and talking to guys, it's like, oh, man, like, 1093 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: I wish we could do this every weekend type of thing. 1094 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,879 Speaker 1: You know, It's it's a natural reaction, man like. It's 1095 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: and it's not just limited to you and and other 1096 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: guys that played football. I mean, hell, I talked with 1097 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: I just had my twentieth high school reunion twenty five. 1098 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me, that's how old I am. Back in the summer, 1099 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: and there were guys that basically we're in the same 1100 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: boat as you. Like, for whatever reason, Hey, do I 1101 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: want to go back? You know? Am I have what 1102 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: I has? What I've done since high school. You know, 1103 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: will people think this of me? You know, it's it's 1104 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: a natural It's I think it goes to apples and oranges, 1105 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: but it goes and translates to all all parts of society, 1106 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: going back to a time in your life which was 1107 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: drastically different and most ways happy or sometimes it's different. 1108 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: But I think that's a natural response to have, you know, 1109 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: and I'm glad it was. I'm glad it turned out, 1110 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, in a positive way for you, because, yeah, 1111 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 1: it loves you here. You know. I think I think 1112 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: it is natural, and I think that's why I'm mentioning 1113 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: it is kind of because I'm just I've learned how 1114 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: to be a little bit more honest with myself and 1115 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: actually verbalize things that I'm talking about it that I'm 1116 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of going through my head. They're learning about myself 1117 00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: and saying things and speaking about experiences helps other people, 1118 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, and it helps you know, hopefully maybe I'll 1119 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: donald like whether it's next year, if someone he sees 1120 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: this or hears this, it's like, oh, you know, I 1121 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,240 Speaker 1: was thinking about going and I was kind of feeling 1122 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: about kind of feeling the same way as Od and 1123 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: and he said he, you know, really enjoyed the experience. 1124 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: It was happy that he went and and it is 1125 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: differ it's definitely worth it. I came back from that weekend. 1126 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm here in town, but just from that experience, just 1127 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: being grateful and it's a lot of good energy around 1128 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: the guys, and it's definitely just it's a little bit 1129 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: of a boost totally. I didn't get a chance to 1130 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: see you while you were here, but you know, I 1131 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: keep up with you on social media, and when I 1132 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: saw you, I was like, oh, that's all. That's that's 1133 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: really cool and you're you know, your boys with you, 1134 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: your wife. I was it was really fun. I'm glad 1135 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: you got to make it, and glad you got to 1136 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: got to see some of your old too. I am. 1137 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: So we had to leave a little early because we 1138 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: got uh Henry or the little kid. We had a 1139 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: basketball practice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to get to 1140 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: and he's pumped about hoops. It's one of the it's 1141 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: like the first sport. He's like actually really excited and 1142 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: asked me to go outside and practice with them and 1143 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: things like that. So as I got love that. Huh, 1144 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: that's uh, it's super cool. I'm like, every he comes 1145 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: out from school, dad, an we can we go outside 1146 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: and shoot? Who's like absolutely, Man, I've that for this 1147 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: the last six years. So that's tremendous. Man, That's that's 1148 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: really really did it just kind of happen over the 1149 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: last few months that he's gotten into that because he's 1150 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: what a kindergarten first, he's in kindergarten. Yeah, he's he's 1151 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: done soccer, and he's done t ball and he did 1152 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: some flight football this past fall. We're just kind of 1153 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 1: have him try everything out. And basketball is the first 1154 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: sport where he was like, I want to do basketball, 1155 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: and so all right, awesome, I'll make sure I sign 1156 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: you up for this. SBMSA is hard. You better be 1157 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: on there signing up right away. Better get I'm in 1158 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: sb We're a SBMSA two with ours. Yeah, because man, 1159 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 1: there's so many dank kids and which is which is 1160 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: awesome for the kids. And it's just he's pumped and 1161 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: he's out there shooting shooting every day. Seems like they 1162 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: can't get out there. So yeah, like like you're asking 1163 00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 1: the first time, Yeah, he uh, I guess whenever weeks 1164 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, he like win is practice starting and what 1165 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: you know, what team am I on? Who's on my team? 1166 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: We're waiting for them to kind of organize everything over 1167 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: November and December. So yeah, over the past month, he's 1168 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: just kind of really jumped into it. Yeah, you guys 1169 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: are about to hit it real hard in the next 1170 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 1: few weeks. Tell me about becoming a Texan. You're in 1171 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: that splendid draft class. He's pretty much smack dab in 1172 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: the middle of it. You got Mario at the front 1173 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: and Demico and at the very end you got David Anderson, 1174 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: you Eric Winston, lots and lots and lots of talent 1175 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: guys that helped franchise turn the page. You were here 1176 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: from when the Texans were mired in beginning as losers, 1177 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: and I mean, shoot, you were here through the best 1178 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,320 Speaker 1: years of their existence in eleven and twelve. What was 1179 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: it like when you got here? What was draft weekend 1180 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: like for you coming out of Wisconsin? Who the draft 1181 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: weekend was? It was cool back when it was just 1182 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: two days, right, it was just Saturday Sunday. So I 1183 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 1: was third or fifth round pick projected. Obviously, I thought 1184 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,399 Speaker 1: I should have been a higher pick, but hey, that's 1185 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: just the way that it goes and injuries and things 1186 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: like that. In fact, those type of things. But the 1187 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: first three rounds went by, and asking people at my 1188 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: house that weekend as the hour chick by Saturday in 1189 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 1: the in the picks came off the board, just kind 1190 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: of get a little bit quieter and a little bit 1191 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: quieter in the house. It's like, got it's not a 1192 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,080 Speaker 1: big deal. You know, we got tomorrow. So yeah, I 1193 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 1: got a call first thing that Sunday morning and the 1194 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: Texas had the very first pick of the fourth round, 1195 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: the very first pick of the second day. And got 1196 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: a call from coach Kubiak. Got to talk to everyone 1197 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 1: and asked if I if I've been in any trouble, Like, no, sir, 1198 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,840 Speaker 1: haven't been arrested, you know, just you know, house cleaning questions. 1199 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: I asked you just to make sure it was. It 1200 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: was crazy because I was talking to him, and then, 1201 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, as I was on the phone with the 1202 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: team that said they're gonna draft me with the first 1203 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: pick of that day, I'm getting a call from somewhere 1204 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 1: else like I didn't know, you know, I wasn't up 1205 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: on my southern area codes back then there's a five 1206 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,320 Speaker 1: or four number, and I was like, I can't answer this. 1207 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm on the phone Coach Kubiak and that number I 1208 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: called back later on for the drafted started that day 1209 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: and it was Sean Payton who was calling to say, hey, hey, 1210 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: uh so Sean Payton and I went to the same 1211 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: high school, Naperville Right Naperville and Naperville Central. Hey, oh, 1212 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,879 Speaker 1: when is anyone called you yet today? It's like, ah, sure, 1213 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: sure enough. Actually, um, Coach Gooby, I can Texas. We call. 1214 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: They said they're gonna take me, and he's like, well, congrats, 1215 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 1: happy for you. You know, we'll be there right behind 1216 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: you if if something happens and that falls through, and 1217 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: so it was a crazy morning for me to be 1218 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: able to see. I think the cool part for me 1219 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: was seeing someone go up to the podium and announced 1220 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: my name and yeah, I get to see my name 1221 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: called on draft day and not everyone gets that experience. 1222 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: And they flashed in the names up you don't see it, 1223 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: but that was just like that. I sing on top 1224 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: and I was just pumped to get an opportunity. My 1225 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: college career was it was an experience because I spent 1226 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: two years playing quarterback and I had a mindset to 1227 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: be you know quarterback Wisconsin and the NFL hopefully, and 1228 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: you know my plans, I make it just within the 1229 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 1: game of football and changed positions and put on a 1230 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: weight and learn a new spot. And you know, obviously 1231 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot of credit goes to the coaches and coach 1232 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: Elverrez there Wisconsin forgiving me that chance, saying like, Okay, 1233 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: this guy can't play quarterback, but maybe you could help 1234 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: with somewhere else. So I was just, you know, I 1235 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,960 Speaker 1: didn't know a lot about Houston. I do remember having 1236 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: a great meeting with coach Kubiak and Ryan Paioni down 1237 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: at the combine and just a kid who was who 1238 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: wanted to come down and make the team. I knew 1239 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: that they had some veterans on the roster at tight end. 1240 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: Didn't really know much about the guys that were here 1241 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: before I got here. Obviously, I really got to know 1242 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: Mark Bruner and Jeff Hutsier really well, and Ben Steele 1243 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: and the guy you know, the bets that have been 1244 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 1: around in the league and learned a lot from those 1245 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: guys and really felt like I was part of a 1246 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: great tight end room, very welcoming. If you ark, if 1247 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: you you know know Mark Bruner at all, he's like 1248 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: the nicest guy in the world. He's like the strongest 1249 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: guy in the world and the nicest guy in the 1250 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: world at the same time. And as like a twelve 1251 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: thirteen year vet at the time he was, he was 1252 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 1: willing to help the young guy develop and wasn't I 1253 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 1: wasn't afraid to share what he knew. I mean, I 1254 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: think sometimes you'll get that with some veterans and marks 1255 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: a team guy and the heck of a guy. And 1256 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: that was you know, forge it to be able to 1257 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: walk in the door and put in a ton of 1258 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 1: work and be a starter from day one. So next 1259 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: year Sean Matt Shob comes to town, Dwayne Brown comes 1260 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: a year after that. But with Shop getting there, I mean, 1261 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: would that do for who you were as a player? 1262 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,760 Speaker 1: Matt fit perfectly in that offense as far as what 1263 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: Kubiak wanted to do, matt ability is leadership ability. It 1264 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: was just a great fit. I had known about match Shob, 1265 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 1: and you know, we had had this season, we had 1266 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and six with David Carr, and they obviously 1267 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 1: wanted to go into the direction. And I remember seeing 1268 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: on the ticker that the Texas traded for Matt shob 1269 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: and I think I was working out the time or something. 1270 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: I think I was actually on vacation for some reason, 1271 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: working out on like February. It was super pumped, like 1272 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: let out a cheer in this in this gym. If 1273 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: people were looking at me, funny, like, what is wrong 1274 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 1: with this guy? He's pumped that match I've got traded 1275 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: to the Texans. Okay, and hey man, Matt and I 1276 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: had a great era relationship over the years. We're still 1277 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: close to this day. And there's a guy that we 1278 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: needed to come in and kind of just be that solid, 1279 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: dependable player at the quarterback position that that maybe we 1280 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: were lacking in the years past. You know, and you 1281 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: guys have a winning season that first year, you have 1282 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: a winning season. The second year, we're not a winning 1283 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: but you go to five hundred both those years. Then 1284 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: in oh nine, you're on a tear dude, like Texans 1285 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 1: go to five and three and into the buy. But 1286 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 1: unfortunately they lose you and they kind of had to adjust. 1287 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 1: They lose the next four games. I think in large 1288 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: part those because your absence really jiggled things. What was 1289 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: it like, I mean, obviously it sucked getting hurt, but 1290 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: you come back with a vengeance and in ten eleven twelve, 1291 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 1: you're outstanding. What was that transition like because you miss 1292 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: out on that second half of that season, but you 1293 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: come back and you didn't skip a beat. Really, everything 1294 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: happens for a reason, right in time out, in time out, 1295 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: in about a thirty second question minimized, you know, a 1296 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: year or so of of awfulness, and I don't want 1297 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 1: that to be I'm not saying that, but no, yeah, 1298 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: I know that's not what you're trying to do. No, 1299 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, you're right. I mean I was whatever All 1300 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Rookie team my rookie year, and then had a good 1301 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: year two thousand and seven, and the two thousand and 1302 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: eight was a Pro Bowl year for me. And then 1303 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, I think I like that was 1304 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,560 Speaker 1: the eighth game of the season, we got the bottom three. 1305 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: We're playing at Buffalo. I'swm RACL. But going into that game, 1306 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: I had thirty nine catches and so I like forty 1307 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: catches through seven games, five hundred yards through seven games. 1308 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: So I was on pace for a large season. And 1309 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,960 Speaker 1: the things that happened the way they did was tough 1310 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: because I really think we could have made a playoff 1311 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: push and kept the momentum roll in there, and we 1312 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 1: had to make adjustments. I remember that first game back. 1313 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, we started the game in four wide receivers. 1314 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: We had never done that in three and a half 1315 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: previous years that we had played. So I think they're 1316 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: just you know, trying to adjust and figure out things 1317 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: because I'd made a big impact. Was especially that year, 1318 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I was making a big impact, and looking back, maybe 1319 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have done as much adjusting. Maybe if you 1320 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 1: can go back and do it again, but I had 1321 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: been through that injury before, and so I confidence to 1322 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 1: myself that I could come back for that injury be 1323 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: as good, if not better, stronger, faster than I was before. 1324 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 1: So that's part of the game of football. I mean, 1325 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna run through You're gonna run into situations where 1326 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: you have to deal with adversity. You have to be resilient, 1327 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a position change and injury in 1328 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: college that kind of triggers that position change, which is 1329 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: what happens for me, big big knee injury in college 1330 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: and then you know, similar knee injury in the NFL. 1331 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I always looked at myself as someone 1332 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: who could bounce back from things like that happened to 1333 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,520 Speaker 1: me in high school, happening in college had me in 1334 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the league. So this figure is one of those things 1335 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 1: where that's just kind of something I was gonna Those 1336 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 1: are the cards I'm dealt. I'm gonna show guys in 1337 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the locker room in the building that, you know, if 1338 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: they hadn't seen him or that I'm not afraid of work, 1339 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: and I want to do everything possible to be there 1340 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,959 Speaker 1: for my teammates. And then yeah, this the success comes 1341 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: after that hard work. So you know, I put it 1342 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: in and you report yourself. Let's fast forward to twenty eleven. 1343 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Weird year all around. I mean it starts with Wade 1344 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: Phillips and that crew coming in and some changes on 1345 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: the defense. It's the lockout. You guys work out at 1346 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 1: Rice University and you of h I think under the 1347 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 1: direction of Matt Shob largely that summer and during OTAs. 1348 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he was instrumental in that. And then you 1349 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: get to camp and you start going start out two 1350 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: and zero and then you get to about a five 1351 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 1: hundred mark and y'all just peel off a wind streak. 1352 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 1: In the process, you lose Shob. You lose. Matt Leiner 1353 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and t J. Yates comes in. How bananas was that 1354 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: whole calendar year for you? Wow? So reflection is something 1355 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: that I'm working on. Sometimes it's hard to reflect on 1356 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 1: things in life or realize, Wow, like we went through 1357 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot that year. To put it on perspective, like you, 1358 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: it is like, oh, we had we had the lockout, 1359 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: and thankfully we had the leadership of Matt job to 1360 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: organize these workouts. We had great turnouts for our runs, 1361 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: for our team runs. I mean that was really the 1362 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 1: thing that like everyone's gonna go lift and do their 1363 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: own thing on their own, but getting together to run 1364 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: and go through seven on seven stuff conditioning put ourselves 1365 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 1: in as good of a position as possible going to 1366 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 1: the season right, and then like again, good start the season. 1367 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: Like you said, it always seems like a battle in 1368 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the year. You don't want to give 1369 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 1: up your chances for as the season goes along, as 1370 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 1: far as opportunities for postseason, you want to stay in it. 1371 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't exactly remember I have to go through those games, man, 1372 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: but I remember when it got hurt, and I remember 1373 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: the team that we had. I remember the defense that 1374 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: we had and I remember all the things that we 1375 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: did with the backup quarterbacks that we had in there. 1376 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: And looking back when we talk, when I see Andre 1377 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Johnson pretty consistent. Basis we work out the same gym, 1378 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: they have the same trainer, and that team those years 1379 01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: come up. People look at two thousand and twelve as 1380 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: you were. We were twelve and four. We were eleven 1381 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: one at one point, right as like the best team. 1382 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 1: But if you were on that team, we thought two 1383 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 1: thousand levels a year. Yeah, that was the year that 1384 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: if match job was healthy. I think we even had 1385 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: some other injuries that year. Oh you lose, you lose 1386 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 1: Mario Williams week five, he'd had a sack in the 1387 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: first four games. Andre Johnson and Arian Foster they essentially 1388 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 1: tagged in and out. You know, they missed big chunks 1389 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: of the year. You were the receiving yardage leader that season, 1390 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: and you, I mean, you had a great season, but 1391 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: usually that was what what Andre Johnson was doing. But you, 1392 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean you were very important. You are very important 1393 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 1: part of that offense because like t J, H relied 1394 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 1: upon you. TJ did such a fantastic job, and I 1395 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: think everyone picked up their games and around him, the 1396 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: guys obviously on the field, and then the coaching staff 1397 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: as well to have a liner ready to go and 1398 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 1: have him get another opportunity in the league and then 1399 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 1: sadly have it away from him that quickly, have TJ 1400 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,400 Speaker 1: go in there and start his Texans legacy. It was 1401 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: a pretty cool experience. And then I mean thinking back 1402 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: to that postseason, getting that win, it's a tough win 1403 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,959 Speaker 1: against Since at home, and then going on the road 1404 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: again in Baltimore. Yeah, I really, I really think like 1405 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: going into that losing by one score in that game, 1406 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: considering what happened in the game, considering being in the road, 1407 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: considering have a rookie quarterback who's never played against that 1408 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 1: defense before. Experience goes a long way if you want 1409 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: to be a team like that. So yeah, I don't 1410 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: really think of Shaby was in there, things will have 1411 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 1: been a little different. But man, we put forth one 1412 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,919 Speaker 1: hack of an effort individually with TJ and everyone around 1413 01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: it as a team. Man, that year was absolutely special. 1414 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: But we got more coming up from Owen Daniels, including 1415 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 1: the clinching win over the Cincinnati Bengals. Will do that 1416 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,560 Speaker 1: with Owen Daniels Andrew Doherty. Where are they now? Wednesday? 1417 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Right here on the Texans All Access Access Access, Man, 1418 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I've done a lot of radio today. 1419 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 1: I am boy, I'm wiped out, am hungry, and I 1420 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: know that on the way home, I want to hit 1421 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Freddie's Frozen Custos and Steak Burgers because Freddie's is all 1422 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: about the good in creating more of it. More drive 1423 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: through celebrations, more road trips around the block, more family 1424 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 1: dinners and lunches, more car picnics, in desserts, maybe even 1425 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: more second desserts, more being together as much as we can. 1426 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,479 Speaker 1: With seventeen area locations in the Houston area, Freddie's keeps 1427 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 1: the good going with the taste that brings you back. 1428 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: Freddie's Frozen Custer and Steak burgersh dim me up for 1429 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: double steak burger with some fried cheese kurds and turtle concrete. 1430 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,920 Speaker 1: Hooked that up for me on the way home, people, 1431 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: I absolutely would devour that meal over there at Freddie's. Okay. 1432 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: When we last left here on Texans All Access, I'm 1433 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: John Harris. We left Drew Doherty and Owen Daniels and 1434 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: they were talking about twenty eleventh season and Drew was 1435 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,200 Speaker 1: just about to get to the clinching game against the 1436 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Drew take it away. We got to talk 1437 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: about the clincher though, So rewind about a month from 1438 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 1: that one. That last drive, you guys, you'll trail the 1439 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 1: entire game except for the final two seconds and you 1440 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 1: get the touchdown there to Kevin Walter at the end. 1441 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: But on that drive, so I was on the field 1442 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: final eight minutes of every road game. I would come 1443 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: down to the field and I was at the basically 1444 01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,919 Speaker 1: at the twenty or you know part where you guys 1445 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: started that drive, and I did not move because you 1446 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 1: guys started moving, and I was like, oh, well, I'm 1447 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: in the right spot, so superstitiously, I'll stay here. So 1448 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm on the text and sideline watching as y'all go 1449 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: down that way. You had three major, major catches on 1450 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,160 Speaker 1: that drive, but the one that will always stick out 1451 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: to me is the one hander. And I've still not 1452 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:53,360 Speaker 1: seen any angle of it that really captured how magnificent 1453 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 1: catch that was. That's better than the angle I saw 1454 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: looking right down. I mean, you had to stick that 1455 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: paw out and bring it in with a guy draped 1456 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,280 Speaker 1: on you there's a little school mustard on it. Man. 1457 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 1: So speaking of that play, yeah, you had a great 1458 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: if you were standing where you were staying, you had 1459 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: a great look at it. They put up, you know, 1460 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 1: players of the game, posters or just just pictures from 1461 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: the game, impact plays around the stadium, and whoever took 1462 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: a picture took got a perfect shot of it. Of 1463 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 1: the guy holding my one arm. Yeah, because I wouldn't 1464 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 1: reached up with two hands to grab that ball, but 1465 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't because you would grab my one arm. I 1466 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,639 Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think they threw the flag 1467 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 1: or anything. So thank goodness, I was able to snag 1468 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,880 Speaker 1: that thing and bring it in. I think, like for me, 1469 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,439 Speaker 1: when I look at my career, I'm proud of my career, 1470 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,719 Speaker 1: and I think one should piece that I'm most most 1471 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: proud of is those clutch situations, right, third down situations, 1472 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 1: third medium situations, gotta have it situations. You know, I'm 1473 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily getting ten twelve targets a game, but when 1474 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: it's an important sitsue, I'm gonna get open and I'm 1475 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: gonna make the play. So that was just a good 1476 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: example of that. Man, just just having TJ's trusted me 1477 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 1: that we've kind of built throughout practice during that year 1478 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: a little bit, and whether it's making diving in practice 1479 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: to keep a ball off the ground and give the 1480 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: kid a little more confidence, whatever it took to kind 1481 01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 1: of like Okay, you can rely on eighty one where 1482 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 1: there's a time to make a play, and then your 1483 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: career continues after it leaves Houston. You go to Baltimore, 1484 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,599 Speaker 1: kubiak'doc you guys had a pretty damn good team that year, 1485 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,760 Speaker 1: but you wind up winning a ring in Denver with him? 1486 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,640 Speaker 1: What was that like? I mean, you could probably go 1487 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 1: on for years talking about this, but in about a 1488 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: minute or two, what was that like? I mean, getting 1489 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: getting to kind of get that ring that had sort 1490 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: of alluded you earlier in your career, getting just a 1491 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 1: chance to play in my tenth year, getting the chance 1492 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,640 Speaker 1: to play it past my career here in Houston. The 1493 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,560 Speaker 1: more I look at it, the more I've reflect on 1494 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 1: it is totally relying upon coach Kubiak Because I went 1495 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 1: to other teams and I thought I was gonna play 1496 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 1: in Green Bay right when I got released here and 1497 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: a couple of their places, and I failed physicals there 1498 01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 1: because of my knee and Coach Koba asked me, and 1499 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: when I went to Baltimore, hey can you play? And 1500 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 1: I think he vouched for me, you know, got me 1501 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 1: in the door, got me through that process, and the 1502 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: same thing in Denver. It's like, hey, you got another 1503 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: couple of years left in you right wow? You know 1504 01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: you know me coach going up there and being in Denver, 1505 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 1: I knew that when Coach got that job there, that 1506 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,840 Speaker 1: that was the place that I wanted to go because 1507 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: I was just on a one year deal in Baltimore 1508 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 1: and so getting a chance to go play with coach 1509 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 1: kobigas my head coach again, obviously that's a great opportunity. 1510 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 1: Getting to play with Peyton Manning fantastic opportunity, and with 1511 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 1: that defense that they had there just basically turned into 1512 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: no brainer for me when they made the offer. And 1513 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 1: that season was a grind. Now it was a Super 1514 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Bowl season, but it was a physical grind. It was 1515 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 1: a mental grind. I think we end up being twelve 1516 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: and four that year, but man, we had to win 1517 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 1: some tough games late against the Patriots and against the Bengals, 1518 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: and over time, it was one of those situations where 1519 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: we needed that veteran leadership that we had. You know, 1520 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 1: we needed Payton, we needed de Marcus Ware, you know, 1521 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,719 Speaker 1: we needed guys like that to keep the ship steers straight. 1522 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 1: And Coach Kubiak, I think a big reason why we 1523 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: were able to get that ring was he was different 1524 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,720 Speaker 1: there than he was in Houston. I think he told 1525 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 1: us about that. Yeah, the first experience as a head coach, 1526 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, so his his my rookie year was his 1527 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 1: first year as a coach and he had to do 1528 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: it because of the situation here. Because but we had 1529 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 1: to drill in, we had to kind of build that 1530 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: discipline within the organization. We had to learn how to 1531 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,200 Speaker 1: win here. We had to be He had to be 1532 01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more strict and a little bit more 1533 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: controlling those years. I think he could have maybe ease 1534 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 1: up as we were going eleven, twelfth, thirteen. I think 1535 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: he maybe he did a little bit. But when you 1536 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,080 Speaker 1: talk to guys that we're under Kubiak here and then 1537 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: I tell him about my experience in Denver with him, 1538 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: I think he learned a lot from Coach Hardball in Baltimore, 1539 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, letting guys be who they are, making guys 1540 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 1: be accountable, but but letting everyone be themselves. And because 1541 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have characters. You got characters in Baltimore with 1542 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Sugs and Jacoby Hellode, you know you got you got guys, 1543 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: they're they're they're different, they're different breeds, and put their 1544 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,120 Speaker 1: guys you can count on. So he saw how he 1545 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,799 Speaker 1: kind of how harbor manage that stuff. And at Kubiak's 1546 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: the guy. That another reason why I respect him even 1547 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 1: at that point his career. He was gonna keep on learning, 1548 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,680 Speaker 1: he was gonna keep on learning how to be a 1549 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,640 Speaker 1: better coach. And so going to Denver like guy like 1550 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 1: von Miller, the guy's like a keep to leave and 1551 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: and Peyton's like, hey, these guys do what they do. 1552 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:36,200 Speaker 1: They're unique individuals, awesome guys, great personalities, but might not 1553 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,920 Speaker 1: respond to being control of the way you'd have to 1554 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: control a young guy. He was able to bring that 1555 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 1: different mindset to Denver, be a little bit more laid 1556 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 1: back as far as letting guys be who they are, 1557 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, obviously still having that standard right. And the 1558 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 1: thing about coach Kubiak is he always like I treat 1559 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: guys fairly but not equally right right, right, So it 1560 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Gandrew Johnson. You might be able to be late for 1561 01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,400 Speaker 1: a meeting and not not not catch too much heat. 1562 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: But you're a guy Peyton Man who would never miss 1563 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 1: a meeting, and neither with Dre. But if you're a 1564 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,679 Speaker 1: young kid, you know you better be there twenty minutes 1565 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 1: earlier in that meeting, ready to learn so fairly but 1566 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: not equally. And that translated to us having that season 1567 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 1: that we did for myself personally, being able to play 1568 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: in a championship game, getting past that divisional round. Honestly, 1569 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 1: that AFC championship game almost seemed like a bigger game 1570 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 1: than the Super Bowl to me, as weird as it 1571 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 1: might sound. Beautots right, It's that we played the Patriots 1572 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: at home. Two or three targets during the game and 1573 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: they're both of the red zone. They both ended up 1574 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: being touchdowns, the only touchdowns we scored that day. It 1575 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,560 Speaker 1: was those situations kind of got to have it, situations 1576 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,400 Speaker 1: where I was man coverage and Payton gave me a chance. 1577 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 1: It was red zone plays. We've been working on it 1578 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,880 Speaker 1: and those games that that game just like energy in 1579 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,600 Speaker 1: that game, you know that it was you know that 1580 01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: home game feel January and December or January and Denver 1581 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: football weather to a team knowing that we were going 1582 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: to play in the big game. That was the second 1583 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,360 Speaker 1: time we had to play the Patriots that year, second 1584 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,519 Speaker 1: time at home, second time we beat him. So to 1585 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 1: get you know a little bit of payback on those 1586 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: guys after the else that they hung on us over 1587 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 1: the years, was that it felt good. As far as 1588 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 1: seeing Coach Kober after the game, He's like, hey, we 1589 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 1: finally got these guys. Yeah, Coach, we did, man, we did. 1590 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 1: And then a big game and having the whole experience 1591 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: of the week. Coach made it a point to emphasize 1592 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: living in the moment, right, so we put in all 1593 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 1: that work in Denver the week before we got to 1594 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Santa Clara. You know, he want everyone to enjoy each experience. 1595 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,719 Speaker 1: So we had to participate in you know, the media 1596 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,640 Speaker 1: night or the opening night, right, the media opportunities, just 1597 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:51,559 Speaker 1: practicing Stanford University, all those things that we were able 1598 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 1: to do just to enjoy this experience. And then hey, 1599 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 1: let's go play this game. Let's stay focused, let's try 1600 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 1: to get a win. And then our deep were so 1601 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,760 Speaker 1: locked in that day. I don't think we we could 1602 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: have lost if we tried, so getting a chance of 1603 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, hey, first play of the game having a 1604 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: pass come my way probably got Sally can cuss on 1605 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,280 Speaker 1: that tackle. I thought I was gonna have a big 1606 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 1: game after They're like, okay, first play of the game 1607 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: coming my way, I'm gonna I'm getting a snag. This 1608 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 1: might be a big day. And I don't think I 1609 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 1: got one target the rest of the game. Oh man, 1610 01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 1: well I had to ring out of it. Just the 1611 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,920 Speaker 1: absolute just pure joy and excitement. If you've if you've 1612 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,760 Speaker 1: seen any pictures of me, there's some great shots just 1613 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: running at the end of the game, just like as 1614 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: a kid growing up in Chicago watching Super Bowls on TV. 1615 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Thinking back to being that little kid and all the 1616 01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,639 Speaker 1: little all the peewee football games and everything like high school, 1617 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 1: growing up, injuries, everything, and being able to really relish 1618 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 1: in that moment was something I wish I could go 1619 01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: back and do every day. That's awesome. Let's wrap this up, man, 1620 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: what's your favorite memory as a Texan if you had 1621 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: to pick one, My favorite memory, Marie, as a Texan, 1622 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 1: it was clinching our first playoff Berth. You know that 1623 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: that goes kind of hand in hand with that we 1624 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 1: played the same team, we beat the same team, So 1625 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 1: I get those games kind of mixed up in my 1626 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,320 Speaker 1: mind sometimes. But clinching that division championship for the first 1627 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,680 Speaker 1: time in franchise history was a feeling that we had 1628 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 1: been working for for since two thousand and six. Right, 1629 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 1: It was six seasons worth of grinding to get to 1630 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,320 Speaker 1: that time, and it didn't come easy. Even within that 1631 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: game didn't come easy. So that and then getting that 1632 01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,400 Speaker 1: win at home in front of front of the faithful crowd. Man, 1633 01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I remember that seasons. Some of the loud I think 1634 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,839 Speaker 1: maybe the loudest I've ever heard that place we're playing Atlanta, 1635 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 1: when we're playing since the in the championship game or 1636 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: in the in the first round wildcard game. That that 1637 01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: type of energy and atmosphere. I'm glad I took it 1638 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,479 Speaker 1: in at that time because something I'll never forget. Who 1639 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,040 Speaker 1: do you keep in touch with Texans? Why you said 1640 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: you talked about Andre We heard obviously about Kubiak. What 1641 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 1: are their teammates you in shop? Who? Yeah, a bunch 1642 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 1: of guys, you know, Kush and Kevin Walter here in town. 1643 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: I still talk with Steve Slayton. I still talk with 1644 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,639 Speaker 1: Arian all the time, the dah you had mentioned earlier 1645 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 1: on that draft class, and Joel Greeson I seen. I 1646 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,200 Speaker 1: saw Joel recently at the Hall of Fame induction. I 1647 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,120 Speaker 1: saw Dave. He was in town a couple of weeks 1648 01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 1: ago doing some business with his sports athletic company that 1649 01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: he's working, pushing here and trying to develop. So he 1650 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: is doing awesome things. So those are the guys really 1651 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,400 Speaker 1: that I've and Tjo keep in touch with. Still he's 1652 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,360 Speaker 1: doing his thing coaching. So that core group, Chris Meyers 1653 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: still talked to you all the time. That core group 1654 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: of guys there that really I think helped push the 1655 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 1: franchise from O six to where it is. It's great 1656 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,120 Speaker 1: catching up with you. It's been too long. Can't wait 1657 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 1: to see you again very very soon. Owen Daniels, Where 1658 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: are they now? This has been a treat, Thanks Drew, 1659 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,600 Speaker 1: And that was some fun stuff with Owen Daniels on 1660 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,960 Speaker 1: a where are they now? All right, we get back. 1661 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,560 Speaker 1: Drew's gonna stick around because it's time for in the 1662 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,559 Speaker 1: Lab podcast, as we discussed the fun we had on Sunday, 1663 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 1: I guess the La Chargers. That's next a Texas to Access. 1664 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: We got one final segment of this evening's show Texas 1665 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 1: All Access on a Wednesday. I am your host, John Harris, 1666 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 1: football analyst, sideline reporter, and I believe I did three 1667 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,760 Speaker 1: to twelve thirteen fourteen fourteen segments of radio prior to 1668 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,679 Speaker 1: the show. Six More makes twenty twenty segments of radio today. 1669 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 1: How about damn Apples and I'll be back from More tomorrow. 1670 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 1: We'll have I'll be on with Seth Payne in the 1671 01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,560 Speaker 1: morning from six am to ten am. I'll be on 1672 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 1: the afternoon with Ron and c Soil for a segment 1673 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 1: talking about Bowl games. And then we will be live 1674 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,840 Speaker 1: from six to seven with John McClain and Mark van Amir. 1675 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: So we'll have that from six to seven, so lock 1676 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,759 Speaker 1: going on, and then Friday morning, New Year's Eve Day morning, 1677 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I will beyond with Cecil Shorts from six to ten. 1678 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go in and just kind of mess 1679 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,439 Speaker 1: things all up and let the guys in Sports Radio 1680 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 1: six ten trying to figure it all out after we're done. Now, 1681 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 1: two guys that get together and mess things up, well, 1682 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,439 Speaker 1: I'm one, Andrew Doherty's the other. We call it in 1683 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 1: the lab and it's fun Sunday was fun. We talked 1684 01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,160 Speaker 1: about it here. This win last Sunday against the Chargers 1685 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,599 Speaker 1: is one of the most fun games I've ever been 1686 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 1: at as an employee of the Houston Texans. Been here 1687 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 1: since O nine, you've been here since fourteen. That was 1688 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of fun. Given what the 1689 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 1: expectations were, who was actually playing against two and the 1690 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: way the game went you look back on it, these 1691 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,560 Speaker 1: two teams combined to punt one single time in the 1692 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 1: entire game, which is bananas. I've tweeted about it a 1693 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: few times. I've written about it as well, a few 1694 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: different ways. But the Texans on offense had nine possessions, 1695 01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,080 Speaker 1: six of them ended in scores, a seventh ended in 1696 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 1: the victory formation. They had the one punt, and then 1697 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,720 Speaker 1: the eighth wasn't a three and out. It wasn't a punt, 1698 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't a turnover. It was a missed field goal, 1699 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 1: which you know, you want to make all your field goals, obviously, 1700 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 1: you want to score touchdowns every time, but you were 1701 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 1: it was a scoring opportunity. So really just one time 1702 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 1: out of nine you didn't really have any chance at scoring, 1703 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 1: And I mean that's that's remarkable one. For their part, Chargers, 1704 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 1: you knew they were gonna gun, and you knew they 1705 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 1: could could get in the engine, but your defense kept 1706 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,799 Speaker 1: them out. Your defense rose up, got three takeaways, forced 1707 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: them to kick field goals a few other times. It 1708 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,920 Speaker 1: was just a fun, fun all around game, man, one 1709 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,840 Speaker 1: of the most fun games I've ever had. And yeah, 1710 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 1: I know it's been a bad year. You know, you're 1711 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:42,760 Speaker 1: still four in whatever, four to eleven, but I still 1712 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,320 Speaker 1: had a hell of a good time. That's what I 1713 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 1: gotta say. And I know a lot of other people 1714 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 1: in this building feel the same way. Yeah, you're absolutely right. 1715 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 1: I felt the same way, you know, when when Tav 1716 01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 1: picked that path off and took it to the house. 1717 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:59,599 Speaker 1: I have a there's a point in which I try 1718 01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 1: and move from one side to the other. And I try, 1719 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: and you know, once the ball gets around the forty, 1720 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I gotta make a decision, like do I go to 1721 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,479 Speaker 1: the other side? Do I need to be on this side? 1722 01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:10,439 Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers had been moving the ball, so 1723 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,640 Speaker 1: I felt, okay, they had taken up thirty four to 1724 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:16,600 Speaker 1: twenty three lead. At that point, they're probably gonna be 1725 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 1: chucking it. I need to move and let me get 1726 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 1: ahead of this thing. So I moved to the other 1727 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: side of the field, so I was on the north 1728 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 1: end as taf picked that thing off and went to 1729 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:26,600 Speaker 1: the south end, and I just kind of had like 1730 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:30,040 Speaker 1: a one man like celebration. And it was interesting because 1731 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: it just was like everything sort of coming out, like 1732 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 1: all the anguish and pain and stuff was just kind 1733 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 1: of like, man, you know, like I just let it go, 1734 01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,240 Speaker 1: and it was beating a good team, and it was, 1735 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 1: you know, Saturday afternoon, Christmas, getting ready for Christmas dinner. 1736 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 1: And get the email from you know, Omar and Everett 1737 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,840 Speaker 1: and everybody in PR, and it says, hey, seven guys 1738 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,800 Speaker 1: are coming back from COVID, but you had to bring 1739 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: up eleven guys from the practice squad. Basically brought up 1740 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,799 Speaker 1: your practice You basically brought up your practice squad exactly. 1741 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,160 Speaker 1: And like, wait a second, we're kicking with the kicker 1742 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,880 Speaker 1: who's never kicked in the what We're starting a defensive 1743 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 1: line who's never won a uniform in an NFL game. 1744 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: Where in Week sixteen in Michael dwe four, I mean, 1745 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:14,639 Speaker 1: oh my god, and it's justin Herbert And so look, 1746 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: I knew there was no boasts. I knew there's no 1747 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Corey Lindsley. I didn't know there was not going to 1748 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,640 Speaker 1: be a Derwin James. But you know, those guys are 1749 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,560 Speaker 1: pretty important pieces. But you know the Texas are, you know, 1750 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,760 Speaker 1: twenty three guys. I think we're in COVID at that point, 1751 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 1: on the COVID reserved list. So you know, I didn't 1752 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:29,960 Speaker 1: want to hear it from the Chargers. But when Tad 1753 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,639 Speaker 1: picked that pass off and it was like they're gonna 1754 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 1: pull this thing off, the fans that were in the 1755 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,240 Speaker 1: building at that point went berserk. Yeah. I mean I 1756 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,639 Speaker 1: could hear it, and I could hear it in my ears, 1757 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,680 Speaker 1: I could hear it everywhere, and I think for a 1758 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people it was like, man, 1759 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:51,280 Speaker 1: this is what I remember this team being running the 1760 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,880 Speaker 1: ball for one hundred and ninety yards and it'd be 1761 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,760 Speaker 1: one eighty nine when Davis got minus won because of 1762 01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: the kneel down, But it was one hundred ninety rushing yard. 1763 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: It's combined with a passing game that attacked down the field. 1764 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 1: It was rookies that you watched all year long, that 1765 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 1: played at a high rate that gave you a lot 1766 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,920 Speaker 1: of hope. I mean, there were six rookies that played 1767 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 1: in that game. Yes, on Sunday, Davis Mills. We know 1768 01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,759 Speaker 1: what Davis did. Nico caught his first touchdown at three catches. 1769 01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan had four catches, all of them for first downs. 1770 01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 1: Jimmy Morrise, he started at center, Garrett Wallow had four tackles, 1771 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 1: started linebacker and had another good week. On top of 1772 01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 1: the Weekenddia into Jacksonville and then Michael Due four the 1773 01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 1: aforementioned played in the NFL for the first time. It started, 1774 01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 1: ended up with half a sack, and there was a 1775 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 1: drive where he came up with three big plays. He 1776 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,920 Speaker 1: was half a sack, he got half of a sack, 1777 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: He had a couple o their tackles on that drive. 1778 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he really made himself. So you throw all 1779 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:46,000 Speaker 1: that in, then you throw us. You know, the day 1780 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,639 Speaker 1: after Christmas, you're thumping this team. You're not making mistakes, 1781 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,400 Speaker 1: you're taking advantage of them. It's one of the top 1782 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league, and you're really kind of knocking 1783 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,320 Speaker 1: him off with Pessley, you pick him off twice, you 1784 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: get the fumble. You know, Jo has the big game, 1785 01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,800 Speaker 1: you know in his second stay and there's so many 1786 01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 1: things that really combined, and I think everybody sort of 1787 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,439 Speaker 1: internalized this entire year and kind of just let it 1788 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 1: out because his tabs running and he's scoring in the 1789 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:13,719 Speaker 1: end zone. Mark had a tremendous call. I'm like losing 1790 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,719 Speaker 1: it down on the sidelines. I'm looking around the building. 1791 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,519 Speaker 1: The fans are just going berserk. They had their you know, 1792 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,640 Speaker 1: they had those like foam finger things that are in 1793 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:23,320 Speaker 1: the form of the horseshoe or Toro's head or whatever, 1794 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,560 Speaker 1: and fans were just like waving them and going. It 1795 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 1: was just it was good feeling. Now, look, it's one game, 1796 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 1: and you're right, Drew, it's been a rough season, but 1797 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,439 Speaker 1: it's the kind of game that you win that you 1798 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 1: go into the offseason and you keep reminding yourself, Look, 1799 01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 1: you can't look this way. Even let me look what 1800 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,360 Speaker 1: it looked like with a with a skeleton lineup. I mean, 1801 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 1: with barely forty six guys to go to game day with. 1802 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,920 Speaker 1: Saw a lot of the things that you've wanted to 1803 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: see from guys all year long. And here's the thing. 1804 01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,639 Speaker 1: In the last six game, Texans are three and three. 1805 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 1: Now three and three. He's not enough to ride home about. 1806 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 1: But it's a whole lot better than it's been up 1807 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 1: to this point and up to the buyewe for sure. 1808 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 1: A big thanks to Drew for stopping by, of course, 1809 01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,719 Speaker 1: so when Daniels for aware of they now Kevin Coogler 1810 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,880 Speaker 1: and Mark vand Amir Nick Casserio, you guys are the 1811 01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,200 Speaker 1: best for listening. Thank you so much, But man Austin 1812 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,519 Speaker 1: Mendez making sure that we keep it on the straight 1813 01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,200 Speaker 1: and narrow. We'll see you tomorrow, buddy bright and early 1814 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,400 Speaker 1: on painted Pendergrass six am to ten am and then 1815 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: all access from six to seven. See you then, have 1816 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 1: a great night and go Texas.