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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Are you interested in people that have also had shadow

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Speaker 2: people in hat Man experiences? We got one right here.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to John driving his truck in Ohio. Let's

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Speaker 2: keep those hands at ten o'clock and two o'clock while

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Speaker 2: you're talking to us on the Wildcard line. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM. You're on with Heidi.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I always do. I'm safe out here. I've

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Speaker 3: got the situation that we had, and I don't understand

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Speaker 3: why he came to us, but we were playing hide

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Speaker 3: and seek, and I was probably at nine, and my

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Speaker 3: brother and sister twin seven. But anyhow, we got done

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Speaker 3: with it and we came in the house and I

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Speaker 3: kind of noticed as we were playing, there was it

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Speaker 3: looked like a person in a field watching everybody, all

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Speaker 3: those kids. But you know, and then you look and

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Speaker 3: you're like, okay, just don't know if it's the twilight

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Speaker 3: plane on you. So we go into our house and

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Speaker 3: our house is like maybe twenty feet from the sidewalk,

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Speaker 3: and we are upstairs. The window shade has kind of happened.

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Speaker 3: I looked down and there is this guy all dark,

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Speaker 3: he didn't have a cake, he had a coat on,

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Speaker 3: he had a cane in his hand, and he was

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Speaker 3: motioning and no red eyes or nothing, but he was

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Speaker 3: motioning for us to come down. So I said, hey,

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Speaker 3: there's there's something down here. My kids are my brothers

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Speaker 3: and sisters like, oh, you're just trying to scare us. Well,

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Speaker 3: they saw it and screamed, and I think my sister

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Speaker 3: said something like, oh Jesus, don't let him get us

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Speaker 3: or something. Anyhow, at that point, my dad comes home

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Speaker 3: and he's driving down the street in the station wagon

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Speaker 3: and this we thought. We didn't call him channel man

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Speaker 3: at that point. We called booking man, you know, the

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Speaker 3: booking man. So he walks across the street and my

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Speaker 3: dad's car goes right through him.

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Speaker 4: Yea, he disappears.

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Speaker 3: Well, we tell our dad this, and he said, you

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Speaker 3: guys are full of craft your imagination. I didn't see

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Speaker 3: anything like that, and I never had any experience again.

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Speaker 3: And I asked my brother and sister the same thing,

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Speaker 3: and they said no. But when I had time to

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Speaker 3: lightness and I was, it went into strep throat and

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Speaker 3: I was like at one hundred, two hundred and three, temperature,

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Speaker 3: and I swear to God, I was upstairs in my

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Speaker 3: room and I would hear voices and just couldn't make

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Speaker 3: out what they were saying, but just in a low whisper.

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Speaker 3: And then when I would open my eyes, I would

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Speaker 3: see like just black shadows running across the room. And

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was because I was hilarious

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Speaker 3: or because when you get in that area your sense

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Speaker 3: is in it. You're in a different state, maybe you're

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Speaker 3: in a different frequency. I don't know. But that's the

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Speaker 3: only time we ever experienced it. And we asked each other,

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Speaker 3: because I've listened to you before, was he trying to

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Speaker 3: get our souls as kids, because we never had an

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Speaker 3: experience with him.

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Speaker 4: Again, Unfortunately, he loves children. He loves to make an

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Speaker 4: impression and he like puts a little marker on them

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Speaker 4: that wow, they can see me. And those that are

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Speaker 4: able to see him are usually dubbed to be gifted

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Speaker 4: in a sense, and.

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Speaker 2: Is it unusual that all the kids in a family

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Speaker 2: would be able to spread that?

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Speaker 4: Okay, it does to be gifted, so it's not surprising.

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Speaker 4: Same with alien abduction. There goes another link that the

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Speaker 4: White Shadow people and hat Man are connected to the

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Speaker 4: alien agenda, the negative alien beings, I should clarify. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: so it's not surprising to me that when you had

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Speaker 4: a high temp and you could when we're weak, when

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Speaker 4: we're sick, when we're depressed, when we're near death, he

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Speaker 4: loves to show up because he's hoping to get a

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Speaker 4: hold on you and to take you, or to reach you,

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Speaker 4: to get in between you and your future, you and

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Speaker 4: your soul. He'll do anything. It's it's really a disgusting practice.

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Speaker 4: And you know a lot of people think I talked

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Speaker 4: to upbeat about this stuff. It's like, look, one thing

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Speaker 4: that the evil hates is humor, and they hate positivity

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Speaker 4: regards to anything dark really helps to repel them. So

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Speaker 4: it's important. But yeah, so you and your siblings were

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Speaker 4: able to see him, and he came closer, wondering why,

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Speaker 4: you know, what's the gift? What do they have? And

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Speaker 4: he looks back unfortunately, And that's usually the number one

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Speaker 4: a person, not that they're conjuring something, but that they

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Speaker 4: are evolving, because mankind is evolving, and these beings are

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Speaker 2: And what you were sort of saying before, if I'm

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Speaker 2: putting the pieces together, because this is the first night

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Speaker 2: that I'm really hearing about this hat man or the boogeyman.

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Speaker 2: Hat man in your case, wants to be seen. Shadow

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Speaker 2: people do not want to be seen. And it also

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Speaker 2: sounds like do kids see him more than adults.

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Speaker 4: It seems to be the pattern. Yes, that is well,

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Speaker 4: it's I think it's also has to do with they're

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Speaker 4: a little bit more innocent and closer to their origins.

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Speaker 4: You know, kids have memories from a past life or

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Speaker 4: just getting here. I think that they're more in touch

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Speaker 4: with their true selves that we don't. They don't put

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Speaker 4: filters on things, and they just take it for what

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Speaker 4: it is. So it seems kind of innocent. And boy

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Speaker 4: does he love to get on children. It's terrible.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible.

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Speaker 4: I call it condition pretty much like conditioning, like somebody

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Speaker 4: that he does get comfortable with me. I have no threat,

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Speaker 4: I'm waving to you, come on in and his I

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Speaker 4: don't think it's a coincidence that his teeth when he

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Speaker 4: smiles is very much like Pennywise from the movie It

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Speaker 4: Stephen King's and what did he do? He would, you know,

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Speaker 4: look cutesy and wave you in, but then devour children.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's horrible.

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Speaker 2: It also sounds a little like Freddy Krueger in the

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Speaker 2: being able to show up in your nightmares very much so.

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Speaker 4: I did hear that this was one of the reasons

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Speaker 4: why that movie was made, because this is not a

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Speaker 4: new phenomenon, but it's wild to be the one to

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Speaker 4: pull it all together. I had no idea, again, no

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Speaker 4: idea others were experiencing this, not until I came on

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Speaker 4: this show while in college. George gave me a chance.

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Speaker 4: Did I get thousands, probably over ten thousand emails the

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Speaker 4: first night that I came on the air. And it's

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Speaker 4: never stopped, never stopped.

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Speaker 2: Is this worldwide phenomenon? This just isn't like an.

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Speaker 4: East coasting right absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Is there parts of America that seemed to have more

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I was told by the alien interdimensional being that it

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Speaker 4: would come to a level that it is now where

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Speaker 4: it wasn't just a possibility, it's a threat that these

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Speaker 4: things show up. And there were certain signs they told

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Speaker 4: I'm like, we're here, we're here, And the revelation of

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Speaker 4: what they're trying to do, how they're trying to stop

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Speaker 4: things moving forward for mankind and trap them shadow people

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Speaker 4: hat Man, they trap souls in haunted locations. You'll hear

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Speaker 4: They're usually talking about hat Man.

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Speaker 2: So even the ghosts are kind of on the on

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Speaker 2: the lookout for that, like they're they're afraid of that too,

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Speaker 2: the ghost Didn't you go on a couple of ghost

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Speaker 2: adventures shows? You've been on a few of those, right.

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Speaker 4: I did not do Ghost Adventures.

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Speaker 2: I haven't read that wrong.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's okay. I've done some other shows, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: not not ghost Adventures. But it's it's wild to me.

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Speaker 4: It took me so many to convince ghost hunters that

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Speaker 4: shadow people were real. They're like, you're just seeing the

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Speaker 4: shadows of ghosts. I'm like, then you haven't met one,

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Speaker 4: but you will. It'll get to that level. And now

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Speaker 4: that's like the number one thing on everybody's lips that

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Speaker 4: shadow people have. Man, Like, oh my gosh, it's everywhere,

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Speaker 4: and the signs, the signs of what this all means.

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Speaker 4: It's coming full circle, and people are like end Times,

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Speaker 4: you know, they're almost excited about it. I'm not excited

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Speaker 4: about the end times because we're going to lose too

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Speaker 4: many people. If this is the end times, I say,

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Speaker 4: a time of change. I do know that there's a

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Speaker 4: vibrational thing that's supposed to be happening. There's a fluctuation

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Speaker 4: and where our bodies won't hold together as they once

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Speaker 4: earth is going to heal and again. This is all

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Speaker 4: stuff that was told to me by this being that

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Speaker 4: educated myself and my college dreammate on what the shadow

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Speaker 2: That was the major. Like if you were taking a

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Speaker 2: masterclass on the macabre, what would the being that appeared

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Speaker 2: to you and your roommate. Are you still in touch

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Speaker 2: with your roommate by the way.

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Speaker 4: No, No, she could not. She could not handle being associated.

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Speaker 4: She felt like she did her part and she couldn't

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Speaker 4: what she's doing, so which I respected. You know it

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Speaker 4: sure what it is, and she's never looked back. That

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Speaker 4: really eye opening, beautiful, angelic things happened, beings that just

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Speaker 2: Well, what was what was happening then? When this happened,

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Speaker 2: When this appearance, you know, showed itself to you in

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Speaker 2: your roommate. Where what was happening for you two at

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Speaker 4: Well, I was an art major. She was an art major,

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Speaker 4: super religious. I was not. I had seen too many

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Speaker 4: odd things. I'd stepped away from that. I believed in God,

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Speaker 4: I had had major UFO sightings where the UFO the

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Speaker 4: it in front of others, you know, just wild stuff,

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Speaker 4: You know? Love story short. We meet up later and

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Speaker 4: you know what happens. She's like, this sparkly sea through

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Speaker 4: a real calming effect to it. I'm like, I've never

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