1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: As the self appointed commissioner of sports media, all of 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: sports media. I love these stories when a guy kind 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,319 Speaker 1: of bets on himself, follows his passion, and then the 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: next thing you know, he's on get up and taking 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: private jets all over the country. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: And that is what has happened here to Josh Paid. 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Check out his show, Josh Paiy's College Football Show. He's everywhere. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Congratulations to you, dude. I would like. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: People, if you don't mind, Josh, kind of tell that 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: story because I think our listeners would find it interesting. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: Your story. 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so let's try and condense it as 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: much as possible. I grew up in just north of Columbus, Georgia, 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: about an hour and a half south of Atlanta, in 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: Harris County. My last name means nothing in sports media. 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: My track outside of high school going into college got 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: me nowhere close to a profession in sports media. 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: I was. 19 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: I think this will make sense to a lot of 20 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: the listeners. I did not grow up broke. I certainly 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: did not grow up wealthy. I grew up closer to 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 3: the ladder than the former or the former than the ladder, 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: and so I was kind of like one of those 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: tweeters where I don't only know what I want to 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: do age nineteen, and I'm still saying that at twenty three, 26 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: twenty four, I finally got my act together a little bit, 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: got a degreen mass calm. But I was just working 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: manual labor. That's really what I was doing. I was 29 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: working instruction. I was working heating and air installation. I 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: ended up working several years in a fabric warehouse down 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: in Columbus. And all I would do, if you pretend 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: this is a radio, all I would do is just 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 3: have this thing to my ear. This is before AirPods. 34 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: I would have it to my ear and I would 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: just listen to sports talk radio all day. I would 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: listen to Dan, I would listen to Mike and Mike. 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: I would listen to Cowherd and Man. I was fascinated 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: with sports. I was immersed in sports growing up, specifically 39 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: college football. But I did start to realize that I 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: had a little bit of a fascination with the process 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: of production and presentation. And I didn't really know where 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: that came from, but I didn't question it. So years 43 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: go by and I would I would long for a 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: career in that, but I had no idea what the 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: entry point was, and I would just man. I would 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: drive around in my truck, and I knew I needed 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 3: to get reps and I didn't have a show to 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: get reps on. So I would let someone bring a 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: show in from break on radio. Then I would hit 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: mute and I would take the segment over from them, 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: and I would just do dry run repetitions. I would 52 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: talk to my steering wheel, that was my audience. And 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: I did that that. I did it so long that 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: I simultaneously was badgering this program director at a local 55 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: radio affiliate there and Columbus to just let me come 56 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: and watch production. And finally he relented and he said, Hey, 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: you're not even asking to be put on air. That's 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: refreshing if you just want to come watch, come in 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: and watch. And I did that. I'd never been in 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: a live studio. I had never seen live production. This 61 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 3: is twenty eleven, and I was in there for a 62 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: couple of months, just fascinated by the process. This is 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: afternoon drive radio in the South in college football season, 64 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: and one day the co host called in sick and 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: there was no time to get a replacement. He didn't 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: particularly thrive in the solo role. So he asked me, 67 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: do you want to jump on air today? And I 68 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: jumped on and I loved it. Man, it was like 69 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: a fish jumping into water. I have not been off 70 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: air since then. I was made permanent on that show. 71 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: A couple of years later, a local TVGM hit me 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: up cold, said, I listened to you every day on 73 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: my drive home. You do really what we would love 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 3: to do on local TV every night. We'd love to 75 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: do a college football show locally here. Do you want 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: to do that? I said yes, very bumpy because I'd 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: never been on TV. I ended up parlaying that into 78 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: a sports anchor role, ended up parlaying that into a 79 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: news anchor role. But that's really the important inflection point 80 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: because that's about ten years ago, and that's that period 81 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: for anyone in digital media when the Berlin Walls started 82 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: to come down, and YouTube live came of age, Facebook 83 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 3: Live came of age, Podcasting had come of age, and 84 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: you realized, and I specifically realized, the barriers to entry 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: for me used to be overhead and distribution. You got 86 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: to have a simction deal, and you've got to get 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: a big, fancy studio, or you're not being heard in 88 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: Miami and Seattle at the same time, and all of 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: a sudden, the Internet changes all that, and so I 90 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: very very quickly put into motion the process of starting, 91 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: you know, my own YouTube channel on my own YouTube 92 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: show and my own podcast feeds, and I tell the 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: story like it happened overnight. But that still took several years. 94 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 3: But finally renegotiated with the TV station that I was 95 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: working at to work ten ninety nine for him for 96 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 3: pennies on the dollar of what I had been making 97 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: salary wise. But the trade off I negotiated in was 98 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: let me run a YouTube channel and let me use 99 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: your studio space three nights a week to produce my 100 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 3: own show that I own. And they said yeah, because 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: like at the time, their question was, okay, you want 102 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: to go play sports anchor. Fine, No one was monetizing 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: YouTube at the time, so they thought it was laughable. Trailblazer, dude, 104 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: you're going to work ten ninety Now we're gonna get 105 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 3: a news anchor for like twenty bucks a day out 106 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: of this. That's great. And it took a couple of years. 107 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: The Joe Burrow LSU twenty nineteen story kind of blew 108 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: my channel up. CBS took notice, and Shannon Terry, who 109 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: at the time owned twenty four to seven Sports, which 110 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: was owned by CBS, he called me up cold said 111 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: if you would move to Nashville, I could get you 112 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: CBS resources. They could license the show like you could 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: do it up here. I moved up here to Nashville, 114 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 3: where I still lived in twenty twenty. COVID sets in 115 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: immediately after that, and it was terrible for many reasons, 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: but one of the professional blessings that that served for 117 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: me is I got this new platform to do my 118 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 3: show on and then immediately every decision makers out of 119 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: the room, so you just get left alone for six months. 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: We really scaled the show pretty immediately it took off. 121 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: I went through a couple of contracts with CBS where 122 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: they ripped them up quick and re upped me for 123 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: a bigger number. Twenty twenty three was the big moment 124 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: where we had enough, We had enough gravity about the 125 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: show to where I could negotiate ownership of it. So 126 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: I retook ownership of the feeds of the IP of 127 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: the YouTube channel. Then we've gone independent and you just 128 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: work partnership. You guys know this. You just work partnership. 129 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: Partner with ESPN, you partner with Yahoo Sports, but you 130 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: own the planet, and everything in terms of partnership sort 131 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: of revolves around the planet that is the show. So 132 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: it's a long winded way of saying the past fourteen 133 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: years were you're like really really really really really tough, 134 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: and then all of the stuffen the hockey stick at 135 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: the end. 136 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: Now, it's a great story that first show, though, because 137 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: you could have bypassed all of that if you just 138 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: waited a little bit longer and started your YouTube page. 139 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: But you still, you thundered into that radio station. You 140 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: got your opportunity. You did what you had to do, 141 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: and that's what you have to do in this business. 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: Most people were you nervous that first show though? That 143 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: first show, Yeah, I think so. 144 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 3: I think I was more nervous in that I didn't 145 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: know the basics. I don't know what I sound like 146 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: on air at the time, and you know, simply I've 147 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 3: worked a little bit of a non regional dialect a 148 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: little bit, but you know, what I sound like right 149 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: now just pales in comparison to how thick and slow 150 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: I used to talk. So I just worried it was 151 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: false worry as it turns out, but I worried, like 152 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: does this work on it? But what it really turns 153 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: out is if you've got good content and there's meat 154 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: on the bone, people will tolerate the way you sound. 155 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: No question about it. 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: Were there times when you were doing those shows in 157 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: your car for your steering wheel where people were. 158 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: Parked next to you in a light looking at you like, 159 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: what the fuck is Peyton doing? 160 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: I mean several. I vividly remember one. There's an intersection 161 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: in Columbus. It's Veterans Parkways Expressway. I don't know why 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: I remember this one, but man, I'm going off. I 163 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: talk with my hands a lot. I'm nix sabing. I 164 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: talked with my hands a lot. And I looked over. 165 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: There was this older lady and she doesn't even know 166 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: if the lights turned green or not. She's just fixated 167 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: on me, as Maria. She didn't know. Man, like National 168 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: Signing Day was coming up. I was deciding which five 169 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: stars were going where they were important things being discussed 170 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: in that trust. 171 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Yes, your steering wheel was very interesting. 172 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they saw me. They saw me. 173 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: So you parlayed all that into private jets, which is 174 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: just fucking amazing. 175 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: God bless you, my man. 176 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: You know what you know. Look, I had this conversation 177 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: with my dad the other day. Yeah, I used to 178 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: watch these I mean, I didn't have two nickels to 179 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: rub together for a long time, and I would watch, 180 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: you know, TV shows. I would listen to speakers and 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: they'd be just wealthy beyond measure, and they would talk 182 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: about how when you get to a certain level, you 183 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: learned that time is the most valuable commodity and there 184 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: is no amount of money that I won't spend to 185 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: get back time. And I always thought, first off, that's 186 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: just a way to brag, and secondly, like, how do 187 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 3: you ever get into that stratosphere? But when I apply 188 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: that logic to my world and I try and do 189 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: my biggest show on Sunday, but I want to be 190 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: at a game on Saturday, it's the most invaluable thing 191 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 3: in the world to be able to move pretty freely 192 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 3: about the country. Sometimes you can do two games in 193 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: one day and you can get back that night and 194 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: be refreshed for a full day of work on Sunday. 195 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: And I mean, it's such a blessing to be able 196 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: to do it. But it changes everything it does, Like 197 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: I wear the same five shirts I don't spend in 198 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: any other walk of my life. Right, that has been 199 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: a godsend. 200 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 4: So we were actually talking about potentially doing the Friday 201 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 4: Saturday Oklahoma and then going to A and M the 202 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: next day. 203 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: Now we have a ride. I meant that ride. 204 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: That's hey, that one's gonna be tough, even even having 205 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: said that, because that's a seven pm kickoff in Norman. 206 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: That's eleven am kickoff, So you're gonna have to You're 207 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: gonna have to bank some sleep on the front or 208 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: the back end. Either way. You just hope they got 209 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: good enough trail mikes on there in between. That's really 210 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: what you hope. It's all up to what kind of 211 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: trail mix they stock you with. 212 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: Are you doing that doubleheader though? Are you gonna do that? 213 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna do that one. I couldn't as 214 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: soon as they released it. I was live on air 215 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: when they released the Times, right, and I'm looking at 216 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: my phone saying, we're gonna have to do that. 217 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: Man, Yes, to whom, to whom. 218 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: The opportunity is given, the opportunity must be taken on 219 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: that front. 220 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: It's funny you said that because listen, there very few 221 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: in our industry who are fortunate enough to be having 222 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: these conversations, who have made it so big where they 223 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: could be talking about fucking private jets. But the one 224 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: thing that I told my wife when Dan and I 225 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: did our deal years ago with DraftKings it just all 226 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: the way through, is I don't want to change a thing. Okay, 227 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: I want to wear the shit, the same five shirts. 228 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: I want to wear the same five pairs of jeans 229 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: that I've always had. The only thing I want in 230 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: my life to be easier is travel. Yes, and it 231 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: will change everything about your life, about your job, about 232 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: your career, and how you think about regular travel because 233 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: once you go that route, you can never go back 234 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: to the TSA lot. 235 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: You know, I always got, always got warned about that 236 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: about don't be dipping your toe into private air travel, 237 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: right wait until you can fully commit to it. And 238 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: the ability to fully commit to it just kind of 239 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: happened all at once, so I really have to cross 240 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: that rubicon until I did. But you know, to get 241 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: serious for a second, you're so right about that, because 242 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: think about what scales in this in the digital media economy. Yes, 243 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: scales is an offset is a counter to what is 244 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: in the traditional world. That's the very nature of scaling 245 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: in this industry. If you scale in this industry only 246 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: to then let fame or fortune or whatever completely mold 247 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: you into looking like a version of what you left 248 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: to begin with, you're doing such a disservice to your audience. 249 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: And that's why, you know, like a lot of people, 250 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: they pitch all these ideas, Hey do you want to 251 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: go to five days a week, or hey do you 252 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 3: want to now that you can travel all over the place, 253 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: you want to have a bunch of live shows on 254 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: the road, And I'm always like no, because the audience 255 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: has been conditioned to expect something. Right, there's incontrovertible data 256 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 3: that anytime we tinker with this or that they don't 257 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: like it. That shouldn't even be an option. That enters 258 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: my mind. The entire purpose behind harnessing all of the 259 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: financial flexibility you get is you're paying money to make 260 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: sure the thing stays more of the same, because that's 261 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: what they're asking for. 262 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they want. 263 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: Yes, it's what they expect from you, So you have 264 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to deliver on that front. Listen, I'm telling you right now, 265 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: do not let business people get in the way of 266 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: what it is that you do. Okay, that's why you 267 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: own your shit, man, all right, that was your way. 268 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: That was my biggest fear. And this to be clear, 269 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,479 Speaker 3: now this never happened, But when I was with CBS, 270 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: one of my biggest fears is I would look around 271 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: and I would see all of these properties that I 272 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: used to love and I used to consume, and they 273 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: got they got poisoned by versions of what you just 274 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: talked about. And my biggest fear was, one day someone's 275 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: going to walk in a room and say, we pay 276 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: for your production. We pay for this show. We're putting 277 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: our foot down on this or that. And that's why 278 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: I was. I was in such a rush to buy 279 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: it back. And fortunately I don't have horror stories or 280 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: nightmare stories about that, but that was my biggest fear. Man. 281 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: We just we beat them to the punch. 282 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: I guess. 283 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, once you grow and become so popular, they're not 284 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: letting you leave with it. 285 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: So you did well, Yeah, you did well, my friend. 286 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: Quickly here not quickly transition to Michigan some college football 287 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: stuff here. Yesterday was a jarring day for a lot 288 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: of people because no one expected Cheron Wore to be fired, 289 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: and certainly no one expected. 290 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: What happened next to happen. 291 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: And so I am wondering, when did you first start 292 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: hearing about what was happening with more inside of that 293 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: Michigan football program. 294 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: I'd say early than mid October when I was first 295 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: made aware of it. Yeah, I'm trying to remember what 296 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: game I was at. It may have it may have 297 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: been late September. It was early in the season, and 298 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: so you heard about it all right. Now, there's a 299 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: reason I don't call myself a reporter or a journalist, sure, 300 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: because because it would have been my duty at that 301 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: point to thoroughly investigate that. That's I'm not pablotory man, 302 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: that's that's his stuff. I'll let him be a rat. Yeah, absolute, absolutely, 303 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just picking it up. I'm picking up 304 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 3: what they're putting down. Now. What I did do was 305 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 3: I asked as many people as I could, because I 306 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 3: knew an insane hiring cycle. We were on the precipice 307 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: of it, and Penn State sort of kicked the snowball, 308 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 3: and in Florida and then LSU and all that. All 309 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: the while it was articulated to me, we expect the 310 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: Michigan job to come open. So all the players behind 311 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: the scenes expected the Michigan job to come open, but 312 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 3: it was always also told to me it's going to 313 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: be a different timetable, and it maybe after the season. Now, 314 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: this is me filling in the blanks here. This is 315 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: my own instinct speaking from this point forward. I think 316 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: they were waiting to see whether the season just went 317 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: off the rails because they lost a couple of games early. 318 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: They lost Oklahoma and then they lost USC They had 319 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: these really inexplicably close games with Purdue in Northwestern and 320 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: I think maybe if they had been eight and four 321 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: instead of nine to three or better, they may have 322 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: just fired him for competitive related reasons and tried to 323 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: sweep this under the rug, because yeah, people knew about it, 324 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: but the mass public didn't know about it, and they 325 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: just conduct a coaching search. It didn't happen that way, 326 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: and so I think they got to the finish line 327 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: of the regular season, they lose Ohio State, they get 328 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: past signing day, and there was something additional that happened 329 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: in the past week very clearly that triggered this. Specifically, 330 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: when it did but I mean to zoom out a 331 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: little bit now. It was always disseminated from people inside 332 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: Michigan that Sharon was sort of, for lack of a 333 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: better term, a bridge head coach, because he gets the 334 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: job at the tail end of the Harbaugh and the 335 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: NCAA investigations ongoing. So you're in the middle of a hurricane. 336 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: No one worth their salt has taken the job from 337 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: the prime candidate list, So Sharon's there, and then the 338 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: smoke clears and they escape the worst of what could 339 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: have been from the investigation, and now we're on the 340 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: back end. It's kind of sunny again, and our job 341 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: is going to be very attractive. But we got to 342 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: kind of find a way to push Sharon out, and 343 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: as it turns out, something fell on their lap that 344 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: lets them push him out with cause. But I kind 345 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: of always think this is the way it was going 346 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: to go. It was just a matter of what would 347 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: be the circumstances around it going that way. 348 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: The something that happened between the time that you started 349 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: hearing about it and yesterday, what do you imagine that 350 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: something is? We speculate for a living, we're not reporters. 351 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Is it her going public. What do you think it is. 352 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: That's one of the rumors, more tangible evidence, something that, 353 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: when put in front of your face, is undeniable no 354 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: matter which side of the fence you're on. I would 355 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: imagine something dropped in the past week there that that 356 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: was something you couldn't look away from. That's what I 357 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: would imagine happened. 358 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: But what's interesting about this is they were just looking. 359 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 2: For a reason to get rid of this head coach 360 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: and it fell on their lap as you put it out, Yes, 361 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: I tell her, Yeah, yeah, I think so. 362 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: Josh, how good would you say the Michigan job is. 363 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: It's a good question because in a vacuum, it's one 364 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: of the best jobs in the country. Yeah, Meaning if 365 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 3: this job were to have opened in November like the 366 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: other ones did, and they were just shot for shot 367 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: against other universities and an open hiring market, and there 368 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: was no other cloud or stigma around it, it's a 369 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: great job as it stands. Now, you've got yet another 370 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: scandal on your hands in a long line of them. Now, 371 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: And if I'm a head coach that is in this 372 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: kind of demand, if I'm a Kaylin de boor just 373 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: as an example, there I've got the Alabama job right now. 374 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: I've already got one of the best jobs in the country. 375 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: If you're trying to draw me away from there, everything's 376 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: got to be perfect. And they don't have a president 377 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: at Michigan right now. There's an president there. You've got 378 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 3: an athletic director who many are questioning up there, who 379 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 3: has resided over a very scandal plagued football program. And 380 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: I'm wondering who's running point on the search. Is that 381 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: athletic director going to be there or am I going 382 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: to have a new one that all of a sudden 383 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: becomes my boss seven months into my tenure. You don't 384 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: have a president to begin with. The way I put 385 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: it this morning is before Michigan runs a coaching search, 386 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: you got to tell me who's running Michigan because right 387 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: now I don't really know. 388 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: This is interesting though, So if Michigan is in the 389 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: college football playoff, is Cherion Moore is still the head coach today? 390 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I do believe he's fucking crazy, Josh. 391 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: I do believe he is. Can't prove it, can't prove counterfactual, 392 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: but I believe he is just. 393 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: Based on what you know of Sharon how jarring and 394 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: surprising was the stuff that happened after they announced that 395 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: he was no longer the head coach at Michigan. 396 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know Sharon personally, so I go off 397 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: second and third hand on that. I would say that 398 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: would be jarring no matter what, because I've talked to 399 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: several people who do know him over the past twenty 400 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 3: four hours. And when I say I don't know him, 401 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: I don't have a personal relationship with him. We've spoken 402 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: a few times, but I don't know him. But the 403 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: people who do know him were very shaken by it. 404 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: So I don't think this is him exhibiting usual tendencies. 405 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 4: Sure right We threw out a name earlier for Michigan's 406 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 4: next head coach, Tom Brady. 407 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I mean that's how you bounce back from everything, 408 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: you know. 409 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: Now, Look, if I were running the search, would I 410 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: go that route? Of course not. However, if I am 411 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: an innocent bystander, would I love it? Will I bang 412 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: the table for it? Absolutely I will. So if we 413 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: need to get that going, let me know what I 414 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 3: need to do. All right, Let's put you in charge 415 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: of the search. Who are you going after? I so 416 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: badly wish This would have happened a week ago, because 417 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: I would have gone after Matt Campbell. 418 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: There's a million coaches calling their agents today, Sama, how 419 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: do we get. 420 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 2: Out of this? Right? 421 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: Did I sign that in pencil or in pen that 422 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: is the ink dry? So I would have gone after 423 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 3: I always thought Matt Campbell. There were the Notre Dame job, 424 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: the Ohio State job, Michigan, Penn State, any of those 425 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: jobs that open. I always thought he was perfect cut 426 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: out for him. So he took the Penn State job, 427 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: and we're going to assume until shown otherwise that he's 428 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: locked into Penn State. I would then target Kaitlyn de 429 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: Bor at Alabama. And again I'm not speaking about his 430 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: legitimacy as a candidate. I'm saying, I'm Michigan. You got 431 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: to tell me, no, you need a coach? Right? 432 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: Yes? 433 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Before I'm moving on, Now, here's the following question. Okay, 434 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: So those will be my top two, and then you're 435 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: going to get into like Jetfish or Kenny Dillingham or 436 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: something like that, Michigan. No matter where you go after 437 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: those first two names, my guess is Michigan people to 438 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: a certain extent are going to Gough. So how far 439 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 3: down the list do you go before you conclude that 440 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: we just need to have an interim head coach for 441 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: the upcoming season and conduct a year long coaching search. 442 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 3: That's the million dollar question, cause the right person. Yeah, 443 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: like you could be in a world where if your 444 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: top two unicorn candidates till you know you've decided internally 445 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: all right, if we don't get those one of those two, 446 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: we're gonna name Biff Pogy the interim for this upcoming year, 447 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: and then we're going to get our affairs in order. 448 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 3: And it may mean a change at athletic director. Wait 449 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 3: until we hire a president, let them make that move, 450 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: and then you know, by August we've got all our 451 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: ducks in a row. And it's just well known that 452 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: Michigan is entering the twenty twenty sixth season with a 453 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 3: job opening, and it's a whole year's long coaching search. 454 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: I just I wonder how far down the list you 455 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 3: have to go before that button is pressed? 456 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 4: Sure, Stuve, for being honest. I just wanted to try 457 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 4: to set up Brady versus Belichick. 458 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I listened. 459 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: I knew where you were going. Of course, I'm familiar 460 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: with your work I'm not even mad at it mad 461 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: at it. 462 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Listen, he's learning. I'm so proud of you, Taylor. 463 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: We also so what Brian Kelly just circling around the 464 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Michigan complex? 465 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: What do you think? Do you think that's a real possibility? 466 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: Just he's there, he's hovering. 467 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: You know, he is there. He is very famously there. 468 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: Uh you know, a year ago, yes, had the Michigan job. 469 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: It's so funny how a. 470 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: Year ago this could have been Belichick's job. 471 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, like a twelve game sample size changes your 472 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 3: opinion on a guy who has three decades of coaching experience. 473 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: Yes to where if they hired him last year, Michigan 474 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: folks who have been an upgrade and now they would 475 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: be Uh, Brian Kelly, we're gonna touch him. He seems 476 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: pretty radioactive. Yes, again, how far down everybody's names on 477 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: the list? At some point, our names are on the list. 478 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: We may just be a million or two names down. 479 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: How far down the list would a Brian Kelly be. 480 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer to that, because it's conditional, right. 481 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: And they're in such a desperate situation right now, in 482 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: a dire situation. Two years ago, this would have been 483 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: deon Sanders' job, then I mean, come. 484 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: Over, naturally, it's time for a new day. We're going 485 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: to redefine what a Michigan man is. 486 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: Michigan man would they ever go Do you think an 487 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: NFL coach would be or a former NFL coach would 488 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: be attracted by this job because the talent's there, the 489 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: traditions there, the fans are there, the money. 490 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: Is there, the quarterback is there. 491 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: He's great, and so I'm wondering, I don't know, Brian Dayball, 492 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out Mike Tomlin guys like that. 493 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: I always leave it open in the back of my 494 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: mind that Michigan would make a radical shift that would 495 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 3: be like that. I would not expect that from LSU 496 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 3: or Florida in their coaching searches. Michigan seems like the 497 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: kind of place that would circle the wagons, look at 498 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: each other and say, look, we're Michigan. Okay, We're going 499 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: to go about things a little differently than the rest 500 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: of them do. And that may very well be how 501 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: they feel that blank. 502 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: I so hope the Ravens fired John Harbaugh and John 503 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: Harbaugh takes the job at Michigan. 504 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and then and then Harball works it into his 505 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: by the way, yeah, yeah, like he works it into 506 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: his contract where he has a minimum of two field 507 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 3: passes for fans and friends every game. Yes, yes, so good. 508 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I am told to her by Taylor that Texas Tech 509 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: head coach Joey maguire has endorsed you, Josh Baid is 510 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: the future college football commissioner. What platforms are you running on? 511 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Common sense? 512 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: I like it? 513 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: You ever he ever heard that before? I'm running on 514 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: the common sense platform A couple of the things. Here's 515 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: what you do. You just institute like these broadly agreed 516 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: upon eighty plus percent type approval rating proposals, and you 517 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: just ride that wave. And it's so easy in college 518 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 3: football because it's a mess right now, but one easy 519 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: one like this is a layup. Give me the second 520 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: round of the playoff on home campus sites instead of 521 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 3: neutral sites. 522 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 2: I like that. 523 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: By the way, I don't since this is fictitious, I 524 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 3: don't even have to get into the legal weeds of it. 525 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: I can just say it. It's very easy. It's like 526 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: student council president. 527 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: The unofficial commissioner has his advantages, no question, Yes, yes. 528 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: But the other thing I'd like to do. I'm not 529 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: one of these guys who looks and says college football 530 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: needs to emulate the NFL. I am one of those 531 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: guys who says college football needs to find ways to 532 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: work with the NFL. One of them is with their calendar. 533 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 3: I mean, college football runs around terrified in December of 534 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: going head to head with the NFL. You should be terrified. 535 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: But what you also should do is you should have 536 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: the stones to be able to walk in a room 537 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: and remind the NFL, hey, we are your minor league 538 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: for free. And by the way, every player who enters 539 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: your league already has name and brand recognition because they 540 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: developed that on our time. So your development and your 541 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: research and your marketing we do it for you. Could 542 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 3: you just reciprocate a little bit on helping us out 543 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: with the broadcast schedule, because if they were to bend 544 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: on that, then that means I don't have to have 545 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 3: my playoff happening in the second or third Monday in January. 546 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 547 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: I could start my college football season in late August, 548 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: and I could rework my playoff structure to however it's 549 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: going to work. But I could start it in early 550 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,959 Speaker 3: December and it ends on New Year's Day, with your 551 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: National Championship game being on jan one and the NFL 552 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: working with them would be the key. 553 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: That sold yes. Like it? 554 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: Well, dumba man, did the committee get it right putting 555 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: Miami in? Forget about Miami, Notre Dame. I think the 556 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: team that should have been left out is Alabama. 557 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: What do you think? 558 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: I disagree, but I disagree based on what the rankings 559 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: were going into the final weekend. Okay, if you had 560 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 3: Alabama eleventh like Brigham Young, I got no problem with that. 561 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 3: But you're not about to look Look this is these 562 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: are adults. Okay, adults are listening to this show. And 563 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean I'm about to use bad language. What 564 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: it means is I'm about to tell a hard truth. Okay, 565 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: the SEC and the Big ten are treated differently than 566 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: the Big twelve and the ACC. They're better, they're deeper, 567 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: they're more talented, they're more powerful. So the SEC's runner 568 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: up is just going to get treated differently than the 569 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 3: Big twelves runner up. That's why Brigham Young dropped and 570 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: Alabama didn't. That's the heart. You don't have to like it, 571 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: but that's the hard truth. So I was never a 572 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 3: proponent of Alabama dropping. They could have lost by twenty 573 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: points more than they did, and I wasn't a proponent 574 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: of them dropping. Now I will say this where I 575 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: think the committee got it right is ironically, I think 576 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: they put the teams in that I would have put in. 577 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: The G five stuff is it's old separate conversation. But yeah, 578 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 3: like those three teams you mentioned, they put the two 579 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: in out of those three that I would put in. 580 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: The problem, as Pete Bavakua even pointed out, was the 581 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: process makes us feel like we got screwed. It makes 582 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: us feel like the rug was yanked out from under 583 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: us at the eleventh hour. And the problem with the 584 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: committee is about a month ago, they made three key mistakes. 585 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: They dropped Alabama too far for the Oklahoma loss. They 586 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: dropped Miami way too far at the initial outset of 587 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 3: the rankings. And they proactively bumped Notre Dame up in 588 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: the rankings too far based on I think what they 589 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 3: predicted Notre Dame to do. And it's like they shook 590 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: up a giant snow globe and they just thought it 591 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: would all settle itself out and it didn't. And then 592 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: it came selection Sunday and they realized there's a mess 593 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: to clean up, and we made the mess and now 594 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: Notre Dame's got to suffer for it. 595 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: Right. 596 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: Let's just say this though, as the unofficial commissioner of 597 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: college a ball, you would love a committee that just 598 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: sat down and decided, Hey, we're gonna fuck with Notre 599 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: Dame and their fan base the entire season, right, I 600 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: mean it. 601 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: Is good for business. Yeah, it is not ethically sound. 602 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: Who cares? This is unofficial. You're the unofficial commissioner. 603 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 3: You pull out the compass and the needles. It's like 604 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: I'm on a magnetic field. There is no north star here. 605 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: What I would love to do if I were so, 606 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 3: if I were the College Playoff commissioner, I'd give two options. 607 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: Either you do away with that rankings release show every Tuesday, 608 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: or you keep it, but you fully open it up 609 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 3: and you fully publicize the deliberation so that we see 610 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: the sausage getting made. 611 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: Yes, don't keep it. 612 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: Like it is right now. 613 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: Yes, they're never going to do that, you know that, right, But. 614 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: I like it well until the next commissioner election happens, 615 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: and then maybe we'll force them to. 616 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get it how far away do you think 617 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: we are from having too just two conferences SEC Big 618 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: ten almost like the NFL, Right, have an SEC champion 619 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: that way, the championship game means something. Have a Big 620 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: ten championship, That game means something. Almost put them into divisions, 621 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: dump all the schools into those two conferences. 622 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: Are we going to see that soon? 623 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 3: My answer is yes, all right, so you just you 624 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: just nailed it. You just used the wrong words. Let's 625 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: just change some language. I usually let's say, let's say 626 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 3: the SEC, and because really what we're talking about is 627 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: two entities. You could call it AFC NFC. I could 628 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 3: call it SEC Big ten, and they have been hell 629 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: bent on gobbling up all the value properties in the 630 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: sport for a while. So let's just hit fast forward, 631 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: and let's say a few years down the road, the 632 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: Big ten has gobbled up what's left of the Big twelve, 633 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: and the SEC has gobbled up what's left of the ACC, 634 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: and you just got like a couple of thirty or 635 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: thirty five team conferences at that point. The smart thing 636 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: to do for anyone who appreciates regionality and tradition is 637 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 3: to recreate the PAC twelve, recreate the Big twelve or 638 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: the Southwest Conference recreate the ACC and they're just subsidiaries 639 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: of the big boys. But no one care. Fans don't 640 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: care about that. They just care that it looks much 641 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: like college football used to look. And you've got in 642 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 3: your words divisions, in my words, conferences, and they're regionally assembled, 643 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: and you've got teams that used to play each other 644 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: that are playing each other again. I don't really care 645 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 3: if the revenue of the ACC flows up to the 646 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: SEC coffers. They own the ACC at that point, yes. 647 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: I love it. 648 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: So what I'm just saying is you just jumped schools 649 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: into you know, different divisions right within those conferences, and 650 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: then you have it's like having you know, the Bills 651 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs and the conference championship when. 652 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: It goes on to the super Bowl, or it's like 653 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: having Washington Oregon in the same conference and then those 654 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: winners go on to whatever playoff that you've set up. 655 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: Of the teams who are in the playoffs, forget about 656 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, James Madison, forget about Tulane. Of the other 657 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: ten teams, how many teams have a realistic chance of 658 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: winning a national championship. 659 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: Now that I saw Ohio State bleed. I think like 660 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: six or seven of them at their highest end, if 661 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: they they threaded the needle, they could get the job done. Ironically, 662 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: you mentioned Miami there. I think the most interesting Round 663 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: one game is Miami Texas A and m No doubt, yeah, 664 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: purely from a talent profile standpoint, those are two of 665 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: the best teams in the in the entire bracket, and 666 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: it's kind of a shame that they play each other 667 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 3: because one of them's got to get eliminated. And if 668 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: you ask other offensive coordinators about, you know, which defensive 669 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: talent and personnel profile do you not want to face? 670 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: A and M and Miami come out of their mouths 671 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: pretty quickly as two of the three or four that 672 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: they think would be big time matchup problems for him. 673 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: Wow, let's just go through the games quickly, if you 674 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: don't mind here, Who do you like in the Oklahoma 675 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: A game? 676 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: I don't know yet. That one I'm very much on 677 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: the fence about. I am glad it happens eight days 678 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: from now because I haven't nailed myself down on that. 679 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: What are you thinking, Like, where are you leaning? Do 680 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: you have a lean yet? No? 681 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 3: I would lean Oklahoma because owing de boris undefeated against 682 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: Landing and Kirby and Sark and he's oh and two 683 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: against Brenton Venables. 684 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so weird. Miami, Texas A and M Who do 685 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: you like? There? Have you thought about it yet? 686 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: Lean, Texas A and M. It's mainly just home field 687 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: because there are a lot of matchup advantages for each. 688 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: Do I need to even ask you about Ole Miss 689 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: and Tulane? 690 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: You do not? Okay? And how about Oregon and James Madison? 691 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: You can ask me about it, but we're not talking about. 692 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Who the fuck are we doing putting James Madison in 693 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: when a team like Notre Dame, who actually could win 694 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the national championship. 695 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: Is not playing? What are we doing? I'm official commissioner. 696 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 3: I had a huge argument about this several times this week. 697 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: There so most sane people agree that it's very dumb 698 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: to have G five representation in this thing from a 699 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: competitive standpoint, all right, But here's the flaw in the argument. 700 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 3: The flaw is most people say that G five teams 701 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: don't belong because they can't compete, like they can't beat 702 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: Oregon or they can't beat Ole Miss. But that's a 703 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: flawed argument because what do you do if you turn 704 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: on the game and Tulane is tied with Ole Miss 705 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. You just shot your entire argument. 706 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: Here's what your argument should be, right, because this is 707 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: my argument. I don't care what I think you're capable 708 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: of in one game. The reason I don't think you 709 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 3: belong is because your strength of schedule does not meet 710 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: the minimum baseline that should be required to warrant inclusion 711 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: in the playoff. And the other night on our show, 712 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: I use James Madison in Oklahoma as an example. Yes, 713 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: I just looked at our power ratings, because everyone's pretty 714 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: much the same by now. We had JMU playing one 715 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 3: team power rated in the top fifty. That was Louisville. 716 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 3: They lost by fourteen to them. The next best team 717 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: they played was Old Dominion and fifty two. Conversely, Oklahoma 718 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: faced eight teams we had power rated top thirty. They're 719 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 3: not playing the same sport. That's where the gap is. 720 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: I don't care if JMU could theoretically compete with Oklahoma. 721 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 3: They don't belong in the same playoff as Oklahoma. 722 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: Right, Well, thank you man, Listen, you have my vote 723 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: for the actual Commissioner of college Football, not the made 724 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: up one Josh Paid's College Football Show. Check it out. 725 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm very happy for you. We have a quick game 726 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: for you on the way out here. It's called pate 727 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: or hate. 728 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So Taylor is gonna ask you a series of 729 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: very quick questions. Uh, you tell us pate or hate 730 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: on these questions. Okay, they'll be quick. Go ahead, Taylor. Look, 731 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: it's simple. 732 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: I think he I think he follows. 733 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 734 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: No, well I'm not certain he does. I just wanted 735 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: to make sure you know a lot going on seriously. 736 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: Fall weddings on a Saturday. Pet or hate. 737 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, fired into the sun should be illegal. 738 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it shouldn't be your friend, right, I mean, what 739 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: are you doing? Yes? 740 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: That's hey. Hey, someone says my buddy invited me to 741 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 3: a fall wedding, And I asked, how do you decide 742 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: who your buddy is? 743 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: It's your point. Guess what. He's not your buddy. Go ahead, Taylor. 744 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: The best environment in college football is Saturday nights and 745 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 4: death Valley pater hate Wow? 746 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: Which one? Hey, I don't even have to specify. That's 747 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: a good that's a good follow up, there, don't I 748 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: don't specify paate. 749 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: It is it is like, that's it. You've been You've 750 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: been to all these places. That's the best environment. 751 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: Okay, at its best, it's amazing. 752 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: He was clear. He said, pay go ahead, Taylor. 753 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: The guy who sets up a tripod and video camera 754 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 4: at the gym. 755 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 2: Pat Or hate, oh boy hate. 756 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 3: Look. The only exception is if you come. 757 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: In I had to think about it. 758 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: You did at eight o'clock at night when it's emptying out. 759 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: Be considerate. I know everyone's got to make a living, 760 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: but if you're in there doing super sets at five 761 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 3: point fifteen in the afternoon and getting pissed and huffing 762 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 3: and puffing when some fifty three year old lady walk 763 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: between you and your shot that's twenty feet away, No, no, 764 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: you're out. 765 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: But at a PM you've done it, right, That's. 766 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 3: I've never done it, But I'm okay with someone doing 767 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 3: it at eight pm at least. 768 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: Okay, good, go ahead, tell. 769 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: Selfishly this is the last one. I'm a Carolina alum. 770 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick can turn things around at Carolina. 771 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 3: Pet Or hate hate hate that he can turn it 772 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 3: around to the point that they're a playoff contender. Let 773 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 3: me put it that way. 774 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 2: Why didn't you ask the private jet one that I 775 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 2: told you to ask them. I mean, what's the matter 776 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: with you? 777 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: I was going to say, people who make it known 778 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: that they're that they're traveling via private jet hate or hate. 779 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm allowed to answer the question. 780 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,959 Speaker 2: It too, and I'm gonna say hate. 781 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate it. What have I become? 782 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: I hate it? 783 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: You become a fucking superstar, that's what you. 784 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 3: Know, Man. I need to be looking at what boarding 785 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 3: group I'm in and sweating over checking in twenty four 786 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: hours ahead of time. That's what you'll need to be 787 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: worried about. 788 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: You'll never do it again, Bud, You've already crossed the line. 789 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: That's it. 790 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: It's okay, though, I mean, embrace it, embrace embrace your 791 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: hard work. 792 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: Man. 793 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: Josh Paid's College Football Show. Great story, great person, great information. 794 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm super happy for your success, man, and we appreciate 795 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 2: the time. Hope to do it again, Sue. 796 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you having me. Thank you,